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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:07 | jcamins | dcook: what should I do with the asparagus? |
| 00:08 | schnydszch joined #koha | |
| 00:08 | schnydszch | hi koha community! |
| 00:08 | wizzyrea | you should wrap it in pancetta and bake it. |
| 00:08 | with a bit of parmesan cheese. | |
| 00:08 | jcamins | Ooh, nice! |
| 00:09 | Unfortunately, I am sans pancetta. | |
| 00:09 | wizzyrea | though you didn't ask me :P |
| 00:09 | bag | jcamins: as always grill it :) |
| 00:09 | heh | |
| 00:09 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I figured you deserved a (brief) break. |
| 00:09 | You've had good advice the last few times. | |
| 00:10 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 00:10 | my second favorite way, is terribly pedestrian | |
| 00:13 | * jcamins | passes out from lack of oxygen. |
| 00:13 | jcamins | I've been holding my breath waiting to hear it! |
| 00:13 | wizzyrea | olive oil, salt, pepper, and in the microwave for about 5 minutes |
| 00:13 | eek sorry | |
| 00:14 | garlic, if you feel like it | |
| 00:14 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 00:14 | I was inspired by the pancetta idea. | |
| 00:14 | I have bacon. | |
| 00:14 | * jcamins | feels very decrepit this evening. |
| 00:15 | wizzyrea | bacon would totally work too. |
| 00:15 | might take a bit longer to cook though | |
| 00:15 | jcamins | I carried 40# (18kg) of groceries home, and now I can hardly lift my arms. |
| 00:15 | The bacon's already cooked, which is less than ideal, but combining bacon and asparagus sounds inspired. | |
| 00:16 | wizzyrea | oof! |
| 00:16 | chris_n joined #koha | |
| 00:31 | dcook | I heard bacon |
| 00:31 | Nothing like a good trip to the grocery store to wear one out | |
| 00:31 | * dcook | likes bag's idea of grilling the asparagus |
| 00:31 | dcook | I think I usually just have it fried |
| 00:31 | wizzyrea | grilling it would be good. But more work than microwaving. |
| 00:31 | bag | with a little olive oil salt and pepper :) |
| 00:32 | dcook | I don't think we're allowed to use the microwave for cooking in the house |
| 00:32 | Maybe for 'baked' potatoes | |
| 00:32 | wizzyrea | "steamed" potatoes ^.^ |
| 00:32 | dcook | hehe |
| 00:32 | Mmm, you guys are making me hungry | |
| 00:32 | wizzyrea | i specialise in that. |
| 00:33 | dcook | Hmm, curry wednesday? |
| 00:33 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 00:33 | * dcook | almost wants to try something new today |
| 00:33 | eythian | curry wednesday was today, indeed. |
| 00:34 | dcook | When I think about Catalyst, my first two thoughts are usually "open source" and "curry wednesday" |
| 00:34 | eythian | not beer o'clock? For shame! |
| 00:34 | dcook | That's sometimes the third thought ;) |
| 00:34 | I guess you folk don't talk about beer enough | |
| 00:35 | wizzyrea | it's because we're at beer o'clock |
| 00:36 | dcook | That's true. I guess you don't want to rub the rest of our noses in the (lack of) beer |
| 00:37 | bag | I always think about trea and whiskey :) |
| 00:37 | heh | |
| 00:37 | good story good times :D | |
| 00:37 | chris_n joined #koha | |
| 00:38 | rangi | ok, bugzilla is going to go down for a minute, and wahanui and the logbot, resizing the disk on my linode bbiab |
| 00:38 | dcook | cheers, rangi |
| 00:38 | * dcook | is curious about whiskey trea |
| 00:39 | dcook | I have a few chips from the Atlantis on my desk now that make me think of you (bag), paul_p, and tcohen |
| 00:40 | bag | dcook: I hope that is just the $1 chip and not anything bigger? |
| 00:40 | I found a fiver when I got home and that's sitting on my desk :( | |
| 00:40 | dcook | Four $1 and one $5 |
| 00:40 | At the time, I didn't feel like losing anything more :p | |
| 00:41 | And I had no need for US cash | |
| 00:41 | bag | cause I am probablly never going back to the atlantis casino in reno |
| 00:41 | dcook | If you did, it would probably be an odd coincidence |
| 00:41 | I still crave Pirate Pizza though now | |
| 00:42 | rangi joined #koha | |
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| 00:47 | dcook | Hmm 2500 to Cordoba only 50 hours of flying... |
| 00:48 | 3300 for 20 hours.. | |
| 00:49 | rangi | right bugs is back |
| 00:49 | now to bring back the bots | |
| 00:49 | chris_n joined #koha | |
| 00:50 | dcook | rangi: Which plan do you use? |
| 00:50 | logbot joined #koha | |
| 00:51 | rangi | its just hte 1024 one |
| 00:51 | dcook | That handles bugzilla and all the things? |
| 00:52 | rangi | yup |
| 00:52 | ive tuned them quite a bit | |
| 00:52 | nginx is out in front doing all the static stuffs | |
| 00:52 | right dashboard and logs back | |
| 00:53 | dcook | Sweet. I keep thinking about getting the 1024 just so I can play around wherever without opening up my home network. Hmm.. |
| 00:54 | * dcook | looks to see if openshift is still free.. |
| 00:55 | dcook | What happens if you exceed your usage with Linode? Extra fees or do they just halt traffic? |
| 00:55 | rangi | dunno, never had it happen |
| 00:56 | Total: 52.8 GB | |
| 00:56 | you have used 2% | |
| 00:56 | so 52 GB is 2% | |
| 00:56 | dcook | Well that answers that question |
| 00:56 | rangi | you get like 2066GB a month |
| 00:57 | wizzyrea | it's ludicrous |
| 00:57 | dcook | That's true. Having never run a server, I'm never sure how much traffic actually gets generated. |
| 00:58 | rangi | thats hosting all the downloads |
| 00:58 | ive never got close | |
| 00:58 | http://download.koha-community[…]wstats/awstats.pl | |
| 00:59 | download does the most traffic of any of hte sites i have on there | |
| 00:59 | wizzyrea | koha-community.org has only ever done 2gb |
| 00:59 | well in recent times | |
| 00:59 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I sauteed the asparagus with flour and bacon, then seasoned with red pepper flakes and rice vinegar. |
| 00:59 | It's amazing. | |
| 00:59 | wizzyrea | well that sounds magic. |
| 01:00 | * dcook | wonders if jcamins's retirement plan involves becoming a chef |
| 01:01 | jcamins | dcook: the thought has crossed my mind. |
| 01:04 | Yeah... wow. | |
| 01:07 | * jcamins | can't get over how good that was. |
| 01:09 | dcook | :) |
| 01:13 | rangi | dcook: https://library.linode.com/longview they have this now too, which is pretty sweet |
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| 01:17 | dcook | That does look rather rad. I could use all the help I could get on monitoring a system. |
| 01:21 | That is a rather nice set of guides as well | |
| 01:21 | I don't know what I would really use it for but it would be fun nonetheless... | |
| 01:22 | For the cost of a (small) case of beer, why not, eh? | |
| 01:22 | jcamins | A case of beer? |
| 01:23 | That seems very cheap for a case of beer. | |
| 01:23 | Unless you're looking at one of the larger instances. | |
| 01:24 | wizzyrea | cjh++ again with the gitify and general awesomeness. |
| 01:25 | dcook | cjh++ indeed |
| 01:25 | jcamins: $20 for a case of beer? | |
| 01:25 | In this case, I'm referring to 6 bottles. I think that's outrageously expensive :p | |
| 01:25 | cjh | ty :) |
| 01:25 | dcook | He lives! |
| 01:25 | * cjh | fades back into the darkness |
| 01:26 | jcamins | dcook: oh, I thought a case was 24. |
| 01:27 | dcook | If I knew you didn't drink/like beer, I'd say I like the way you think |
| 01:27 | jcamins | lol |
| 01:37 | wizzyrea | rangi++ for mentioning longview |
| 01:44 | |R joined #koha | |
| 01:44 | |R | Hey there :) |
| 01:45 | I've got a weird question, I need to convert our MARC21 file I have to UNIMARC... I see it's easy to import into Koha, but is the unimarc export as easy for a stock install? or anything I should take into account? :) | |
| 01:46 | jcamins | |R: Koha doesn't do any MARC conversion. You'll need to use something else to do that. |
| 01:46 | |R | oh ok, thanks for saving me from trying ! |
| 01:47 | I've been looking around for such a conversion tool and it's ... well... very hard to find | |
| 01:47 | jcamins | Yeah, that's not something that most people do. |
| 01:48 | |R | yeah, we're a small journal platform in québec using marc21 but people in france need unimarc |
| 01:48 | and from what I understand some commercial SIGB do it, but simple tools need you to write your own convesion config (And i'm no marc21/unimarc expert at all) | |
| 01:49 | eythian | I get the impression that they're semantically different in parts, so a general automated conversion is impossible. |
| 01:49 | that said, you could probably automate 90+% of it | |
| 01:50 | |R | yeah, no 1-to-1 it seems, but then again, a stock one would probably do in our case wher eit's just journals title / isbn and such... |
| 01:50 | I think I've found the other way around at some point but ... hehe | |
| 01:52 | rangi | IR: just a point, (since you hit my pet peeve) the opposite of open source is not commercial, it's proprietary .. both proprietary and opensource can be commercial and non commercial |
| 01:52 | what id look for is an xslt file that does the crosswalk | |
| 01:52 | and then write a few lines of perl to use that to do it | |
| 01:53 | |R | sorry for the mishap, I usually proprietary in french (and I agree! ;) |
| 01:53 | say* | |
| 01:54 | rangi | http://www.systemsplanning.com/marconvert/ <-- maybe this? |
| 01:54 | dcook | IR: This isn't complete but perhaps you could reverse engineer it (http://search.cpan.org/~freder[…]imarcToMarc21.pm) |
| 01:54 | |R | so, marc to marc-xml then xslt to unimarc-xml to ... |
| 01:55 | rangi | yeah that was what i was thinking |
| 01:55 | From MARC21 to UNIMARC or the reverse | |
| 01:55 | dcook | Actually, don't BibLibre have marc21 to unimarc tools? |
| 01:55 | rangi | that marconvert looks like it shold do what you want |
| 01:55 | and its apache license | |
| 01:55 | |R | but it's not available actually, it's just MARCvie |
| 01:55 | w | |
| 01:56 | rangi | ah lamers |
| 01:56 | |R | they always talk about both, but then MARConvert needs to be custom built for your need, |
| 01:56 | rangi | id hunt in the source |
| 01:56 | maybe they have an xslt file in there :) | |
| 01:56 | if you can get the source that is | |
| 01:57 | |R | I looked at their repository, but my is that when it got open sourced and given to OCLC, it somehow seems to have gotten unevenly released.. |
| 01:57 | rangi | how werid that oclc would do something like that |
| 01:57 | |R | my guess* (damn laptop keyboard) |
| 01:57 | rangi | weird even |
| 01:57 | (that was sarcasm btw :)) | |
| 01:57 | |R | :P |
| 01:58 | rangi | wow oclc.org is slow for me |
| 01:58 | wizzyrea | I need a gif for "How WEIRD!" |
| 01:58 | |R | haha :) |
| 01:58 | dcook | rangi: They know it's you! ;) |
| 01:59 | wizzyrea | the internets can sense haters. |
| 01:59 | rangi | wtf |
| 01:59 | http://worldcat.org/devnet/cod[…]rt/trunk/clients/ | |
| 01:59 | who does that???!??! | |
| 01:59 | dcook | Mm, looks like my little project was unimarc to marc21.. |
| 01:59 | |R | exactly |
| 02:00 | dcook: hehe yes, everything to marc21 seems more popular :P | |
| 02:00 | rangi | we released the code, but its utterly unusable |
| 02:00 | good luck with that | |
| 02:00 | |R | rangi: yep | |
| 02:00 | :| | |
| 02:00 | rangi | btw pay us some money for some data you actually already own |
| 02:00 | </oclc> | |
| 02:00 | dcook | IR: I'll share my mappings with you at least |
| 02:01 | |R | dcook: what kind of mapping? :) |
| 02:02 | (and that MARConvert is a windows gui, MARCview runs in wine but :P) | |
| 02:02 | pastebot | "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "unimarc to marc21" (77 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1 |
| 02:03 | |R | thanks :) |
| 02:03 | dcook | IR: unimarc to marc21 so not super helpful but possibly better than nothing |
| 02:03 | Spent a while comparing the two specs | |
| 02:03 | np | |
| 02:03 | |R | It'll at least help me confirm a conversion ;) |
| 02:03 | eythian | just play it backwards |
| 02:04 | dcook | I wrote that a while ago so it might not be entirely comprehensive |
| 02:04 | It might've just had tags that were used in the dataset | |
| 02:04 | Although that would be weird | |
| 02:04 | rangi | if you play it backwards its here comes the sun by the beatles |
| 02:04 | dcook | lol |
| 02:04 | eythian | I don't believe anything to do with MARC could have that effect. |
| 02:05 | dcook | ^^ |
| 02:05 | eythian | Maybe the Imperial March |
| 02:05 | dcook | It might be easier to go marc21 to unimarc actually... |
| 02:05 | I think unimarc separates out more fields | |
| 02:06 | |R | ok :) |
| 02:07 | with the time I use for this I might as well just pay someone in France to do it :P | |
| 02:08 | dcook | Not a bad idea |
| 02:08 | Although you'd probably need a bit of input | |
| 02:08 | |R | gosh usemarcon could definitaly not be more esoteric... |
| 02:08 | dcook | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]-July/024728.html |
| 02:08 | IR ^^ | |
| 02:09 | rangi | i wonder if it is in one of their repos |
| 02:09 | http://git.biblibre.com/ | |
| 02:10 | jcamins | dcook: UNIMARC->MARC21 is much easier *because* UNIMARC separates out more fields. |
| 02:10 | |R | dcook: I'm always afraid to write to people on their post after 3 years and look like a stalker haha but yeah, I should try and contact them |
| 02:10 | rangi | hdl is no longer there |
| 02:10 | but mail paul | |
| 02:11 | dcook | Paul is super nice, so I'm sure he could give you info at the least |
| 02:11 | jcamins: Good point | |
| 02:12 | |R | Paul? :) |
| 02:12 | I found daniel on twitter I think (the guy who asked) | |
| 02:13 | rangi | http://biblibre.com/en or fr for you :) |
| 02:13 | |R | cool, I'll try with both ^_^ |
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| 03:09 | |R | ok, enough email written, this is past overtime haha ;) |
| 03:37 | wizzyrea | oh man |
| 03:37 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/a[…]llan/10955082416/ < wellies today | |
| 03:37 | cruel cruel cruel to be indoors. | |
| 03:42 | eythian | the HDR is strong in this one |
| 03:42 | rangi | There's 80 trillion Mexican soccer fans in town |
| 03:43 | bag | evening |
| 03:47 | rangi | I suspect even though we will get utterly caned in our world cup qualifier tonight a good time will be had by all |
| 03:52 | bag | oh how long until game time? |
| 03:52 | anyone going? | |
| 03:53 | eythian | Oh no. I have to bike to Thordon at around 6. It's going to be madness. |
| 03:53 | ibeardslee | eythian: taking your sword? |
| 03:53 | eythian | yeah |
| 03:53 | bag | always |
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| 04:00 | eythian | ibeardslee: you'd be the sort of person who has a 4mm allen key that I could borrow. Would this be true? |
| 04:01 | ibeardslee | yes, although it would be at home. |
| 04:02 | there are a bunch of sysadmin tools you could browse through in the build room | |
| 04:02 | eythian | I might have a look, ta |
| 04:07 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 04:56 | mtompset | Greetings, dpk dpk1 |
| 04:57 | Did you forget to set the status of bug 11078 correctly? | |
| 04:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11078 enhancement, P4, ---, dpk, Failed QA , rebuild_zebra.pl can lose updates due to race condition during full rebuilds |
| 04:58 | * mtompset | hopes that dpk dpk1 or WaylonR will reply. |
| 05:09 | dac | The moment where you think you're so smart with your regex |
| 05:09 | Then the subsequent moment when you realize that the regex works, but your solution isn't going to work | |
| 05:09 | Grr | |
| 05:09 | Well, it might.. | |
| 05:10 | No...mostly yes, but sometimes probably not.. | |
| 05:11 | mtompset | dac: So been there, done that. Regex's don't like me. :P |
| 05:12 | dac | mtompset: Actually, I find regexes and I get along better and better all the time. It might just not be enough in this context |
| 05:12 | mtompset | So, what are you trying to do and where? |
| 05:13 | dac | Well, not Koha |
| 05:13 | Hmm, how to explain it.. | |
| 05:14 | Scraping using xpath | |
| 05:14 | Actually, that's not it | |
| 05:14 | That's fine | |
| 05:14 | Building a user-friendly UI to generate xpath based on highlighted sections of a page | |
| 05:14 | That in itself...not that hard | |
| 05:14 | But allowing users to either use highlighting and/or handcrafted xpath...trickier | |
| 05:15 | Because the highlighting reads the actual DOM. Handcrafted queries don't. | |
| 05:15 | I'm generating about 4-6 different queries for different sections of a page...and they're nested | |
| 05:16 | So, the scenario: You've highlighted a list item, and you've highlighted the title, date, and author within that list item. You've built your relative xpath by comparing the selected nodes. | |
| 05:16 | However, you find the selection isn't quite what you want and you want to hand edit... | |
| 05:16 | You don't have a selected node to relate to if you hand edit | |
| 05:17 | One way around that might be using xpath in Javascript but that brings some pain if one uses indexes.. | |
| 05:17 | :D | |
| 05:19 | Actually, maybe using xpath in Javascript is the best bet.. | |
| 05:20 | I wonder if jquery compensates for IE using 0 based indexes rather than 1 based indexes (as it should) | |
| 05:21 | mtompset | I'll let you go back to your evil, evil world. :P |
| 05:21 | dac | lol |
| 05:23 | mtompset | dpk dpk1: you there? |
| 05:24 | Have you ever really wanted to work on something to sign it off, and you didn't get an answer? The problem is usually the other way around. :( | |
| 05:25 | dac | ? |
| 05:28 | Hmm, maybe the regex idea will work despite being suboptimal | |
| 05:29 | Oh, unless... | |
| 05:31 | bag | oh nice the NZ soccer/football game is on TV here |
| 05:31 | maybe I'll watch along for a bit | |
| 05:31 | dac | bag: Nice! |
| 05:31 | How far along is it? | |
| 05:31 | mtompset | That might explain the lack of replies. ;) |
| 05:31 | bag | I think it starts in another half an hour |
| 05:32 | dac | I'm trying to remember what the current standing is |
| 05:32 | All I recall is that Mexico has had a weird time qualifying | |
| 05:32 | Load faster webpage! | |
| 05:32 | bag | I think NZ has to score a bunch of goals :) |
| 05:35 | dac | 5-1 Mexico in the first leg |
| 05:35 | Hmm | |
| 05:37 | Mmm, they do have the away goal, so that is handy | |
| 05:37 | So 4 goals.. | |
| 05:37 | * dac | used to be a crazy soccer fan |
| 05:41 | bag | yup NZ needs to win 4-0 |
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| 05:46 | mtompset | Well, that's it. Have a great day, #koha. |
| 05:46 | Bye, dac bag ebegin. | |
| 05:54 | dac | Man...Canada got slaughtered by Honduras in October... |
| 05:54 | If they had won that game, they could've actually made it.. | |
| 05:54 | One day maybe :p | |
| 06:14 | Hmm, turns out the regex trick works | |
| 06:15 | A more difficult solution would be to use xpath to get a list of possible list nodes and then check the parent of each title/date/author node against that list of nodes... | |
| 06:15 | Errr difficult/expensive | |
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| 06:25 | pabloj | hi |
| 06:27 | anipablo | is anyone here at this hour? |
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| 06:47 | * Oak | waves |
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| 07:31 | wizzyrea | sup |
| 07:32 | * cait | waves |
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| 07:35 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:44 | cait | hi reiveune :) and bye all |
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| 07:44 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 07:57 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:04 | Oak | Bonjour Alex, ici, avoir de la crème glacée et café avec du poulet. Sur la maison. |
| 08:04 | kivilahtio | Excuse me, but what is the new default bootstrap theme? |
| 08:15 | magnuse | kivilahtio: it's a new theme based on http://getbootstrap.com/ ? |
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| 08:17 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 08:20 | magnuse | kia ora work-cait :-) |
| 08:21 | kivilahtio | hyvää huomenta cait! |
| 08:21 | magnuse: Ok, so what does that mean regarding our localization efforts? | |
| 08:21 | is the new bootstrap still localizable? | |
| 08:21 | We just started Koha localiation big time | |
| 08:22 | and we are translating the old prog | |
| 08:22 | cait | kivilahtio: the new bootstrap has a new po file, buidling on the existing one |
| 08:22 | magnuse | of course it's localizable - this is Koha y'know! |
| 08:22 | cait | it's in 3.14 only |
| 08:23 | kivilahtio | my point is that is the work we are doing for prog just now getting wasted |
| 08:23 | should we move to bootsrtap now? | |
| 08:23 | if 50% is wasted, we need to retarget our localization efforts | |
| 08:24 | magnuse | it looks like the prog and bootstrap .po files are about the same size |
| 08:25 | so maybe choose either prog or bootstrap and translate that? | |
| 08:26 | kivilahtio | I think I need to take a look at bootstrap first :) |
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| 08:29 | magnuse | it's worth a look! :-) |
| 08:29 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:31 | kivilahtio | looks pretty neat |
| 08:31 | I guess everyubody is moving to bootstrap then? | |
| 08:36 | cait | kivilahtio: you can translate prog, then ask bernardo - he can move the strings that are doubled up |
| 08:36 | kivilahtio: he did that for existing translations, so only the differences for bootstrap had to be translated | |
| 08:47 | kivilahtio | looks like bootstrap and prog are almost similar |
| 08:55 | any prognosis for the future of prog vs bootstrap? | |
| 08:56 | is there an agreement to deprecate prog? | |
| 08:56 | cait | it will be a step by step thing |
| 08:56 | but yes, check the mailing list, there has been a discussion about it | |
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| 09:20 | samueld | hi everybody |
| 09:22 | cait | hi samueld |
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| 10:16 | magnuse | yay! http://builtinperl.com/ |
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| 10:23 | schnydszch | Hi! I'm importing a book with this 952: 952 \\$iMR_$kR_$p07776d$v0.00$40$eDonation$00$915303$bLLS$m0$10$o(F) KPM 1744.5 O32 2005$d0000-00-00$n0$j0$50$70$2lcc$g0.00$yBK$l0$aLLS$fDonation I enabled add incoming record in item processing |
| 10:24 | cait | is LLS an existing branchcode? |
| 10:24 | schnydszch | I added 962i in BKS framework |
| 10:24 | yes it is. | |
| 10:25 | the problem is 952i, which is the newest data is not imported | |
| 10:26 | all other data in 952 tag are already in Koha, only subfield is the newest data | |
| 10:27 | and also $k | |
| 10:28 | cait | items won't get overlayed |
| 10:28 | there will be a brand new feature in 3.14 to let you do that, but currently it's not possible | |
| 10:29 | schnydszch | okay. 3.14 will be out in a week right? |
| 10:29 | cait | yes, but it will be very very new then |
| 10:31 | schnydszch | one thing to do what i wanted to do is to delete the items but that won't work since there are items circulated already |
| 10:31 | cait | what is in $i? |
| 10:33 | schnydszch | it's supposed to be MR No. |
| 10:33 | Memorandum Receipt No. for a particular item | |
| 10:34 | cait | yu could use sql to insert into the items and then do a complete reindex |
| 10:34 | that's what you can currently do, apart from writing a script and adding the info or waiting for 3.14 | |
| 10:35 | schnydszch | but only the itemnumberbiblionumberbiblioitemnumberbarcodedateaccessionedbookselleridhomebranchpricereplacementpricereplacementpricedatedatelastborroweddatelastseenstacknotforloandamageditemlostwthdrawnitemcallnumbercoded_location_qualifierissuesrenewalsreservesrestricteditemnotesholdingbranchpaidfortimestamplocationpermanent_locationonloancn_sourcecn_sortccodematerialsuriitypemore_subfields_xmlenumchroncopynumberst |
| 10:35 | are available columns, and 952$i can only be put in more_subfields_xml | |
| 10:36 | cait | you could consider using stocknumber |
| 10:36 | schnydszch | hmm.. |
| 10:36 | cait | it's nrmally mapped to §i |
| 10:36 | it's an inventory number | |
| 10:36 | that is if you are not using it already for other information | |
| 10:36 | hm and i don't see it in your list | |
| 10:36 | which version are you on? | |
| 10:37 | schnydszch | the latest 3.12.6 |
| 10:38 | cait | hm there shoudl a be stocknumber in items and deleteditems then |
| 10:39 | schnydszch | i should add this in deleteditems table? |
| 10:39 | oh it's already there | |
| 10:45 | ow about $k? it's different from MR or stocknumber. I'll try to work this out again tomorrow. Thank you very much @cait Cheers! | |
| 10:45 | cait | not sure what $k is |
| 10:46 | ah, already gone :) | |
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| 10:53 | Sammie | Good morning! Well in my part of the world.....relatively new user, is there a way to automatically assign barcodes? Right now I'm physically inputting bar odes for my serials. |
| 10:53 | cait | hi Sammie |
| 10:54 | there is an AutoBarcode perference, but i am not sure if it will work if you are adding serial issues in the serials module | |
| 10:54 | it will work in cataloguing | |
| 10:54 | Sammie | Oh I see! |
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| 12:59 | ebegin | morning ! |
| 13:00 | cait | hi ebegin :) |
| 13:00 | bgkriegel++ #being an awesome translation manager | |
| 13:05 | tcohen | morning! |
| 13:06 | ebegin | @wunder montreal quebec |
| 13:06 | huginn | ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -4.0°C (8:00 AM EST on November 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.62 in 1037 hPa (Rising). |
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| 13:08 | francharb | Good morning #koha |
| 13:19 | cait | good mornign tcohen :) and francharb :) |
| 13:19 | so good to see you back | |
| 13:25 | francharb | good morning cait! thank you!! |
| 13:26 | I'm glad being back here! :) | |
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| 13:28 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:28 | cait | hi oleonard |
| 13:28 | i have a complaint :) | |
| 13:28 | the little arrow next to cart - i have difficulties making it behave nicely for words (translations) of different length | |
| 13:28 | * oleonard | puts his fingers in his ears and starts singing |
| 13:28 | cait | heh |
| 13:29 | oleonard | Can you elaborate cait? |
| 13:29 | cait | i can show :) |
| 13:29 | https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/ | |
| 13:30 | when the little arrow in lists looks nice for one language, it's ugly for the other | |
| 13:31 | there are different places we have tht, another is the more searches pull down with a down arrow | |
| 13:31 | oleonard | I see |
| 13:31 | This complaint must have been long-simmering | |
| 13:32 | cait | we updated another library to 3.12 today, so i ran into it again :) |
| 13:36 | oleonard | That is a shortsighted design decision. :( |
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| 13:39 | cait | oleonard: i think it did work in older version with the single gif, maybe we can think of something? |
| 13:39 | it's not super urgent, just a bit weird and against my perfectionism :) | |
| 13:39 | i think there are 3-4 places where hte arrows appear | |
| 13:40 | tony | Which install package should I use since my server is Centos |
| 13:41 | cait | oleonard: for comparision - a 3.6 installation |
| 13:41 | oleonard | Yes, I changed the way the buttons were styled, using more modern CSS techniques. |
| 13:43 | tcohen | bug 10908 |
| 13:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10908 blocker, P1 - high, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Fix broken auth_by_bind LDAP mode |
| 13:43 | tcohen | that's a blocker for 3.12.x too? |
| 13:43 | tony | Which install package should I use since my server is Centos |
| 13:43 | cait | hm coudl imagine it is, but maybe ask eythian? |
| 13:44 | tony: there are no centos packages, packages are only available for debian and ubuntu afaik | |
| 13:44 | tony: there are some older centos intallation instructions on our wiki | |
| 13:44 | wiki* | |
| 13:44 | wiki? | |
| 13:44 | wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org | |
| 13:44 | wiki? | |
| 13:44 | wahanui: wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org | |
| 13:44 | tony | Thanks you guys .. I was thinking that a debian package might work |
| 13:44 | cait | oh. no wahanui. |
| 13:44 | tcohen | tony, make sure you at least have CentOS 6 |
| 13:45 | tony | I do |
| 13:45 | tcohen | otherwise you will suffer a lot, because Perl 5.8 is deprecated for the stable Koha |
| 13:45 | oh | |
| 13:45 | great :-D | |
| 13:45 | cait | @later tell eythian can you bring back wahanui please? |
| 13:45 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:45 | tcohen | @later tell eythian is 10908 a blocker for 3.12.x? |
| 13:45 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:57 | oleonard | jcamins around? |
| 13:58 | cait | oleonard: would it be ok to file a bug? |
| 13:58 | oleonard | cait: Yes, definitely |
| 13:58 | cait | ok, will do |
| 14:00 | oleonard: done - bug 11276 | |
| 14:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11276 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Sprite icons not in right spot on translated templates |
| 14:01 | tcohen | oleonard: what was the URL for sco? |
| 14:01 | oleonard | /cgi-bin/koha/sco/sco-main.pl |
| 14:02 | tcohen | thx :-D |
| 14:05 | oleonard | Interesting translation problem paul_p raises... term vs. term... |
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| 14:05 | cait | yeah, i have had that happen too |
| 14:05 | subject | |
| 14:06 | email subject and topical subjects | |
| 14:06 | there are some examples | |
| 14:06 | balamurugan | hello to all |
| 14:07 | anybody here to help me to rebuild zebra index | |
| 14:07 | oleonard | How did you install Koha balamurugan? |
| 14:07 | balamurugan | i installed koha 3.8 through live cd |
| 14:08 | and the rebuild_zebra.pl is in the migration_tools directory | |
| 14:08 | i checked that also | |
| 14:08 | jcamins | oleonard: what's up? |
| 14:09 | oleonard | jcamins: You're a fan of ElasticSearch are you? |
| 14:09 | balamurugan | but while i am giving the command rebuild it is saying that command not found |
| 14:09 | jcamins | oleonard: I am, yes. |
| 14:10 | balamurugan | i log as root user oleonard and given the command |
| 14:10 | in the terminal | |
| 14:10 | oleonard | Do you think that will translate into working on ElasticSearch for Koha? |
| 14:10 | jcamins | Probably not, no. |
| 14:10 | Why do you ask? | |
| 14:11 | oleonard | There is a discussion on the ByWater Partners list about implementing a browse feature, but the work that has been done is all in Solr |
| 14:12 | Since I'm guessing no ByWater libraries are using Solr, that route seems like a non-starter | |
| 14:12 | cait | hm and external to koha i think - is it the one from the italian library? |
| 14:12 | oleonard | cait: Yes |
| 14:12 | cait | ah |
| 14:12 | i think he presented it ... in edinburgh maybe? | |
| 14:13 | jcamins | Ah. Interesting. I probably would've chosen to do browse with Zebra, given that's what the data is in already. |
| 14:13 | cait | i had the impression it was using solr only for the index, but still using zebra for search |
| 14:13 | jcamins | cait: right, that's why I would've done browse using Zebra. |
| 14:14 | oleonard | I don't know anything about how browse could work in Zebra or Solr or ElasticSearch, but I would hate to see a lot of effort put into making it work with Solr if there is a serious push to move away from both Solr and Zebra |
| 14:14 | tcohen | @later tell gmcharlt $record->encoding( 'UTF-8' ) vs SetMarcUnicodeFlag($record, $marcflavour)? |
| 14:14 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 14:25 | cait | oleonard: maybe implementing it with zebra shoudl be discussed |
| 14:26 | making solr fully work might be more work | |
| 14:26 | and having both search engines installed and running seems... wrong | |
| 14:35 | oleonard | yes, especially if you only need one of them for a browse feature |
| 14:41 | cait | jcamins: is browsing with zebra doable? |
| 14:42 | jcamins | cait: not easily, but I believe it would be possible. |
| 14:54 | ashimema | Probably a completely stupid question.. but what exactly do people actually mean by a 'browse feature' |
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| 14:57 | oleonard | See Bug 569 |
| 14:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=569 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Searches need 'browse' option |
| 15:00 | oleonard | Also: Yay, a bug I filed 10 years ago is still open! |
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| 15:01 | oleonard | Of course it is an enhancement request ;) |
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| 15:07 | nengard | hehe |
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| 15:08 | ashimema | thanks oleonard.. |
| 15:12 | pretty impressive to have such a long lasting enhancment in bugzilla though ... | |
| 15:12 | you could have learnt to code it in that time frame ;) | |
| 15:12 | had you not been making koha look so great ;) | |
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| 15:13 | oleonard | Yeah... I wasted some time on Twitter and stuff too... |
| 15:18 | cait | oleonard: and still thousands of libraries adopted koha in the meantime without any browsing ;) |
| 15:19 | oleonard: here libraries are asking for it too, of course | |
| 15:22 | oleonard | I guess no one wants it badly enough to sponsor it yet |
| 15:22 | nengard | the thing is i think it's something libraries want but patrons don't clammer for so no one has pushed very hard to get it |
| 15:22 | or what oleonard said :) | |
| 15:23 | when i'm in training things always seem like the end of the world ... but then the libraries never mention it again :) | |
| 15:24 | oleonard | Yeah, it makes you wonder what other things would stop being an issue if they just lived with it for a while |
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| 15:27 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 15:28 | oleonard | Hi mtompset |
| 15:29 | * mtompset | is awaiting the release of Koha Pi. That is today, is it not? |
| 15:30 | jcamins | mtompset: gmcharlt is in the US. |
| 15:31 | senator | IOW, it's 7:31 AM for him :-) |
| 15:31 | jcamins | senator: actually, I meant today is "today," not "tomorrow." |
| 15:32 | cait | hm i thought 21st |
| 15:32 | and today is 20th? | |
| 15:32 | * oleonard | thought the 21st as well |
| 15:32 | jcamins | cait: right, it's the 21st in NZ later today, but gmcharlt is in the US. :) |
| 15:33 | gmcharlt | it's the 21st, in my time zone |
| 15:33 | (mwa-ha-ha?) | |
| 15:33 | cait | oh? |
| 15:33 | you people are confusing me. again. | |
| 15:33 | :) | |
| 15:33 | today is the 20th. I am sticking with that | |
| 15:33 | gmcharlt | er, release is the 21st, in my time zone, i.e., tomorrow |
| 15:33 | cait | but you can release earlier if you raelly want to - on my 20th :) |
| 15:33 | gmcharlt | I'm not asserting that I live one day in the future ;) |
| 15:34 | jcamins | But if gmcharlt lived in NZ, today would actually be tomorrow, so the release would be tonight. |
| 15:34 | * cait | mimicks owen and puts fingers in her ears and starts singing |
| 15:34 | jcamins | (yes, this is actually how I think about time zones) |
| 15:35 | gmcharlt | let's go by the One True Guide |
| 15:35 | @arewethereyet | |
| 15:35 | huginn | gmcharlt: Not yet - wait 1 day |
| 15:36 | oleonard | huginn, you're not the boss of gmcharlt! |
| 15:36 | huginn | oleonard: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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| 15:42 | * mtompset | laughs. |
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| 15:58 | * cait | curses a bit about the quote of the day feature |
| 15:58 | cait | i have alibrary where it just won't show up on the start page and i don't see why |
| 15:59 | jcamins | cait: missing quotes? |
| 15:59 | cait | nope |
| 15:59 | quuotes look fine | |
| 15:59 | feature is activated | |
| 15:59 | it does show on their test system | |
| 15:59 | not on production | |
| 16:00 | mtompset | cait: I found the number mess to be strange. |
| 16:00 | Oh, that's news. Sorry. | |
| 16:03 | oleonard | cait: Not hidden by JS or CSS is it? |
| 16:10 | mtompset | Can you give a set of steps to duplicate the problem? |
| 16:16 | cait | oleonard: doesn't look like it |
| 16:16 | quite a puzzle | |
| 16:18 | mtompset | So quote of the day was added 3.10.0... |
| 16:20 | which theme are you using? | |
| 16:23 | cait | mtompset: prog |
| 16:23 | mtompset | Hmmm.... strange... t/db_dependent/Koha.t failed... checking my daily. |
| 16:23 | I mean data. | |
| 16:24 | Ah... my data is empty. | |
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| 16:31 | ashimema | brb |
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| 16:34 | mtompset | How do you add quotes? |
| 16:35 | oleonard | /cgi-bin/koha/tools/quotes.pl |
| 16:35 | cait | it's under tools |
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| 16:39 | mtompset | found it under tools... QOTD -- not exactly what I was quickly scanning for. :) |
| 16:39 | Okay, data in place. tests run. | |
| 16:40 | Umm... so it isn't even displaying the quote of the day on the main screen?! | |
| 16:40 | cait | nope. |
| 16:40 | mtompset | Is that the problem? |
| 16:40 | cait | feature is turned on, quotes in database, no quote |
| 16:40 | mtompset | but opac-main? |
| 16:40 | or opac-search? | |
| 16:40 | which opac page are you expecting it on? | |
| 16:40 | cait | main |
| 16:40 | only main | |
| 16:41 | mtompset | well, that's strange. |
| 16:42 | I had your problem. I did a refresh after clicking the icon, and it is showing now. | |
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| 16:44 | mtompset | cait: How many quotes are in the DB? |
| 16:45 | oleonard | mtompset: "clicking the icon?" |
| 16:45 | mtompset | top left of the bar... nice big koha icon. |
| 16:47 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 16:47 | mtompset | bye, tcohen. |
| 16:47 | cait: I can't replicate the problem now. :( | |
| 16:47 | jcamins | I can't seem to find Firebug in FF 3.6. |
| 16:48 | mtompset | 3.6?! |
| 16:48 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 16:48 | mtompset | Oh right... you aren't using windows and running up the version numbers like toilet paper. |
| 16:48 | jcamins | Nah, I also have FF gazillion something. |
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| 16:49 | jcamins | Oh, never mind. This script never worked in FF 3.6. So it's not my fault. |
| 16:49 | cait | mtompset: yeah , not surprised |
| 16:49 | it wrks on the test installation | |
| 16:49 | * jcamins | loses interest. |
| 16:49 | cait | i will have to run some more tests |
| 16:49 | mtompset: thx for testing | |
| 16:50 | mtompset | No problem. |
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| 17:04 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:14 | rambutan | @quote add <mtompset> Oh right... you aren't using windows and running up the version numbers like toilet paper |
| 17:14 | huginn | rambutan: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 17:15 | mtompset | *whew* saved from the reputations as a talking about toilet paper. :P |
| 17:38 | SlyzertVoltrond | Can I backup Koha's application by just copying the directory which Koha's source codes resides to some place and later put it back in if necessary? |
| 17:38 | mtompset | What are you trying to backup? |
| 17:38 | And why? | |
| 17:40 | SlyzertVoltrond | Just the application(Perl), I know about db backups |
| 17:41 | For in case the upgrade process ran into problems and the system is unusable because of it, I can just revert back to the old version | |
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| 17:49 | * cait | waves |
| 17:52 | * nengard | waves back |
| 17:52 | cait | :) |
| 18:00 | |R | I see koha uses 9999 as port for SRU, is this a standard ? Loc.gov seems to be using the same port as z39.50 (210) and nothing in /etc/services nor on google :) |
| 18:08 | gmcharlt | |R: there's no standard port |
| 18:09 | |R | ok :) |
| 18:33 | oleonard | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ear[…]sb000l2y3#summary ! |
| 18:34 | gmcharlt | ! |
| 18:34 | cait | ! |
| 18:35 | oleonard | I felt it, but it didn't occur to me that it might be an earthquake. |
| 18:40 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch '3.14.x' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2a197e25c7e37fbca> / Translation updates for 3.14.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e43b176c77c6e2436> / Merge branch 'new/bug11269' into 3.14.x <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a27aeb378b9f6a09d> / Merge |
| 18:40 | gmcharlt | bgkriegel++ |
| 18:40 | translators++ | |
| 18:40 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 18:47 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #226 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED) |
| 18:51 | Starting build #1515 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) | |
| 18:53 | cait | bgkriegel++ :) |
| 18:55 | * cait | feels like it can't be 3.14 yet |
| 18:55 | cait | time is moving so fast this year |
| 19:03 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #125: SUCCESS in 3 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/125/ |
| 19:03 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11269: fix incorrect use of MARC::Field->subfield() | |
| 19:03 | * D Ruth Bavousett: Bug 8070: improve MARC preview display for RTL languages | |
| 19:03 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10016: force zero browser-side caching of SCO pages | |
| 19:03 | * Galen Charlton: bug 10016: munge history in SCO to discourage resubmitting user login | |
| 19:03 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 11054: Specify UTF-8 encoding when creating a child record | |
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| 19:03 | jenkins_koha | * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10720: fix issue that prevented use of HTML tags in overdue notices |
| 19:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11269 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Latest MARC::Record makes visible some wrong usage of field->subfield in C4::Search |
| 19:03 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8070 minor, P5 - low, ---, druthb, Pushed to Master , <pre> block produced by showmarc.pl really not good in RTL languages | |
| 19:03 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10016 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , SelfCheckTimeout not logging patron out | |
| 19:03 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11054 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Creating a child record has problems with accented Latin characters | |
| 19:03 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10720 normal, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Substitution term in overdue notices shouldn't be removed even if they don't match | |
| 19:05 | bag | yeah cait this last release seems to have gone so fast |
| 19:05 | cait | the whole year really... super fast |
| 19:05 | and there is never a 'done' :) | |
| 19:06 | bag | heh nope never done :) |
| 19:06 | only released | |
| 19:09 | cait | yeah and then we start over :) |
| 19:11 | * druthb | looks up from the puzzle she's workin' on, waves at bag, and goes back to her head-scratcher. |
| 19:13 | bag | heya druthb |
| 19:24 | nengard | do we have a date for kohacon14 yet? |
| 19:24 | oleonard | If you don't have a date yet you can go with me nengard |
| 19:24 | nengard | awww |
| 19:24 | :) | |
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| 19:25 | nengard | But I meant dates for the conference - like what time of year :) |
| 19:26 | oleonard | I think I remember tcohen saying early October like this year, but I don't know if it's official |
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| 19:30 | nengard | okey dkey |
| 19:30 | dokey | |
| 19:31 | list emailed | |
| 19:31 | :) | |
| 19:32 | cait | bgkriegel++ again for putting the marc frameworks into pootle |
| 19:39 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #226: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/226/ |
| 19:39 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11204: make pendingreserves use datatables.inc | |
| 19:39 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.14.0 | |
| 19:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11204 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , pendingreserves should use datatables.inc |
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| 19:51 | trea | anyone around that wants to talk about authorities? |
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| 19:54 | cait | trea: hi trea |
| 19:54 | not sure about the topic... but we could try? | |
| 19:55 | trea | hi cait - merge_authority.pl cronjob? does this need some steps to be taken before it will work successfully? |
| 19:55 | like running the linker perhaps? | |
| 19:55 | cait | oh :( |
| 19:55 | sorry, not sure about that | |
| 19:55 | i think there might be a pref | |
| 19:55 | have you looked for merge? | |
| 19:55 | talljoy | there is a syspref that talks about the merge cronjob for authorities |
| 19:55 | * oleonard | asks jcamins whenever authorities are involved |
| 19:56 | cait | dontmerge < |
| 19:56 | jcamins | I don't use the merge_authority script. |
| 19:56 | Actually, I don't use authority merging at all in Koha, since I don't think it works. | |
| 19:56 | talljoy | trea what is their dontmerge authorities preference set to? |
| 19:56 | and i'm with jcamins, i use the linker instead | |
| 19:57 | trea | this is sounding more and more like terminology confusion then |
| 19:58 | talljoy | lol |
| 19:58 | it does to the non-authoritarian | |
| 19:58 | jcamins | What do they want to do? |
| 19:58 | trea | "dontmerge" is set to "Do" |
| 19:58 | talljoy | jcamins they want to edit a bib and have it update the bib |
| 19:58 | sorry | |
| 19:58 | trea | so, that would make the cron unnecessary |
| 19:58 | talljoy | edit an auth and have it update the bib |
| 19:58 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 19:59 | In that case, you don't need to run the script because you have dontmerge set so it's not necessary. | |
| 19:59 | talljoy | right. |
| 19:59 | trea | right, that's what i needed to know. thanks |
| 19:59 | jcamins++ | |
| 19:59 | cait++ | |
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| 20:32 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:32 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.4°C (9:30 PM CET on November 20, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). |
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| 20:48 | francharb | hey all |
| 20:48 | nengard | @wunder 78741 |
| 20:48 | huginn | nengard: The current temperature in East Cesar Chavez, Austin, Texas is 21.7°C (2:48 PM CST on November 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:48 | francharb | have you ever experienced trouble importing biblios with items lately? |
| 20:49 | Biblios are staged correctly | |
| 20:49 | but not the items | |
| 20:49 | I´m using wizzyrea marc21 dataset | |
| 20:49 | there are items | |
| 20:49 | the set up seems ok | |
| 20:50 | but when I stage the records | |
| 20:50 | no more items | |
| 20:50 | :( | |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | hm |
| 20:50 | default branches installed? | |
| 20:50 | francharb | yes |
| 20:51 | I check koha to marc mapping, branches, item types, authorised values | |
| 20:51 | seems all good | |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 20:51 | clean database? | |
| 20:51 | as in, empty? | |
| 20:51 | francharb | the items table is empty |
| 20:52 | but not the biblio and biblioitems | |
| 20:52 | cait | francharb: hm what setting did you pick for items on the import screen? |
| 20:52 | francharb | the default one |
| 20:52 | check the items | |
| 20:52 | always import | |
| 20:52 | cait | hmm |
| 20:52 | and you got a b y? | |
| 20:53 | are the items showing up as imported in your import summary table? | |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | ^ |
| 20:53 | francharb | cait, nope |
| 20:53 | a b y ? | |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | mine says "985 records found and staged" |
| 20:53 | cait | subfields :) |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | on master, with that dataset |
| 20:54 | *item records | |
| 20:54 | francharb | yes |
| 20:54 | i have them | |
| 20:54 | cait | no spaces in your branchcode? |
| 20:54 | i had that happen. | |
| 20:54 | francharb | I installed 3.13.00.043 |
| 20:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1515: SUCCESS in 2 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1515/ |
| 20:54 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11204: make pendingreserves use datatables.inc | |
| 20:54 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.14.0 | |
| 20:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11204 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , pendingreserves should use datatables.inc |
| 20:55 | wizzyrea | should be default branches |
| 20:55 | you wouldn't have the problem I had, which is duplicate barcodes | |
| 20:56 | francharb | wizzyrea, ¨should be default branches¨. what do you mean? |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | the data in that set uses the sample branches |
| 20:56 | with the sample branchcodes | |
| 20:56 | francharb | ok |
| 20:56 | thats what I checked :) | |
| 20:57 | its a fresh install, from yesterday | |
| 20:57 | cait | hmm. |
| 20:57 | francharb | I know, it´s a mystery to mee |
| 20:57 | hehe | |
| 20:58 | tonight I´ll checked on my computer at home. I don´t remember having this problem last time I used this dataset | |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | no, and I didn't have it just now on that same version |
| 20:59 | francharb | ok |
| 20:59 | :) | |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | that does seem odd though. |
| 21:01 | (I haven't changed the dataset) | |
| 21:01 | can I just rave a bit more about the tickboxes on the detail page | |
| 21:01 | because that's so handy. | |
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| 21:02 | pianohacker | hi guys and gals and overenthusiastic bots |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | hi pianohacker |
| 21:02 | pianohacker | hey wizzyrea. How's it going? |
| 21:03 | wizzyrea | it's a beautiful day outside. :) |
| 21:03 | pianohacker | same here in colorado, randomly enough |
| 21:03 | yay fall/spring | |
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| 21:06 | cait | hi pianohacker :) |
| 21:06 | pianohacker | hey cait. How are ya? |
| 21:06 | cait | tired? :) |
| 21:06 | as always heh | |
| 21:10 | pianohacker | cait: I understand well, trust me... |
| 21:10 | Yay >1 month of school! | |
| 21:11 | francharb | I´m going to check again the set up |
| 21:11 | :) | |
| 21:18 | thank you cait wizzyrea! I´ll do another install | |
| 21:18 | if i cant find any solution | |
| 21:19 | cait | hm |
| 21:19 | is there something in the logs? | |
| 21:19 | an error message? | |
| 21:19 | also the tables often have useful information about the matching process | |
| 21:19 | the database tables | |
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| 21:30 | eythian | hi wahanui |
| 21:31 | pianohacker | wahanui: good afternoon sleepyhead |
| 21:31 | wahanui | pianohacker: what? |
| 21:34 | cait | wahanui botsnack cookie |
| 21:34 | wahanui | :) |
| 21:35 | cait | thx eythian |
| 21:39 | francharb | hey cait, the only thing in the log is : [Tue Nov 19 17:21:05 2013] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Tue Nov 19 17:21:05 2013] stage-marc-import.pl: Filehandle STDOUT reopened as FH only for input at /usr/lib/perl5/Template/Provider.pm line 964., referer: http://opaccommunity:8083/cgi-[…]ge-marc-import.pl |
| 21:40 | dont think it´s related... | |
| 21:40 | cait | hm no that seems always to happen |
| 21:40 | francharb | yes... |
| 21:40 | cait | you culd look at import_items |
| 21:41 | it has a column for import_error | |
| 21:41 | eythian | wahanui: status |
| 21:41 | wahanui | Since Wed Nov 20 21:29:42 2013, there have been 1 modifications and 0 questions. I have been awake for 11 minutes, 31 seconds this session, and currently reference 34183 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode. |
| 21:41 | francharb | thanks cait, I´m going to check it rigth now! |
| 21:41 | cait | i found it helpful when we were trying to find out which items had not been imported because of duplicate barcodes |
| 21:41 | not sure if it will help in your case | |
| 21:46 | francharb | ahah, now I can´t import the staged biblios... |
| 21:46 | cait | oh? |
| 21:46 | francharb | I just set up the testing database from the sign off wiki page |
| 21:46 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches | |
| 21:47 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #27 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:47 | francharb | and well, there are a couple of biblios and items but I try to upload more |
| 21:47 | it doesnt worlk | |
| 21:47 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #27: SUCCESS in 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Docs_3.12.x/27/ |
| 21:47 | Nicole C. Engard: fix typo | |
| 21:47 | francharb | well well well |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | well I wouldn't probably do taht |
| 21:47 | I'd probably just create one with the web installer | |
| 21:48 | bc that db is probably out of date. | |
| 21:48 | francharb | wizzyrea, probably a better idea |
| 21:48 | I just realised that after setting it up | |
| 21:48 | ahah | |
| 21:48 | welcome to my 2nd day at my new job after a 4 monts pause | |
| 21:48 | :) | |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 21:49 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #69 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: FIXED) |
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| 21:49 | Nicole C. Engard: fix typo | |
| 21:49 | Project Koha_Docs build #395: SUCCESS in 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/395/ | |
| 21:49 | Nicole C. Engard: fix typo | |
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| 21:52 | joels68 | Greetings. We meet again, o wise ones. |
| 21:54 | pianohacker | oh crap I think we forgot the wise ones today |
| 21:54 | you'll have to deal with us instead... | |
| 21:55 | joels68 | :-D |
| 22:01 | cait | we are the tired ones |
| 22:02 | joels68 | Hi cait! |
| 22:02 | wahanui | Hi cait! are you safely back in germany now? |
| 22:02 | cait | yes wahanui, all is well |
| 22:02 | hi joels68:) | |
| 22:03 | francharb | time to stop! |
| 22:03 | have a good night, day, afternoon! | |
| 22:03 | see ya | |
| 22:03 | and thanks for the help!! | |
| 22:04 | joels68 | Hey hey wizzyrea what's up? |
| 22:04 | wizzyrea | presently? 2 floors, a roof, and the bluest sky you've ever seen. ;) |
| 22:05 | joels68 | :P |
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| 22:05 | joels68 | Yeah, that paradise place... |
| 22:06 | rambutan | so wizzyrea, have you been out fishin much? |
| 22:06 | If I lived there I'd be fishing every day. | |
| 22:07 | wizzyrea | I have this thing that I do 5 days a week... |
| 22:07 | kinda cramps my fishing style. | |
| 22:07 | rambutan | so sad |
| 22:07 | wizzyrea | but actually, I've only been fishing once. |
| 22:07 | but spent many happy hours on the beach. | |
| 22:08 | rambutan | http://www.newzealand.com/us/fishing/ |
| 22:09 | joels68 | wizzyrea, I could send you a dirty snowball from the midwest. |
| 22:09 | rambutan | taupo. always wanted to eat taupo |
| 22:09 | wizzyrea | a whole lake? |
| 22:09 | joels68: I'll take a pass on that I think. ;) | |
| 22:10 | joels68 | I just didn't want to get too comfortable down there and forget where ya came from.;-):-[ |
| 22:11 | rambutan | oh, taupo is a lake, not a fish |
| 22:12 | ok, I'll go for tarakihi | |
| 22:12 | wizzyrea | that seems more sensible ;) |
| 22:12 | ah there are dirty snowballs here too. | |
| 22:12 | just have to know where to find them. | |
| 22:14 | joels68 | Is there a MARC batch modify tool coming up? I can't remember. |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | there's a command line tool for that |
| 22:15 | but the GUI version needs a patron. | |
| 22:15 | every. single. library. asks. that. | |
| 22:15 | and none have stepped up to fund it. | |
| 22:15 | so disappointing. | |
| 22:16 | joels68 | Command line will work for me. |
| 22:17 | I have a lib that wants to hide a collection in the opac. | |
| 22:18 | wizzyrea | I misspoke actually, modify isn't there yet, it desperately needs a patron. |
| 22:18 | but delete is. | |
| 22:18 | as a command line tool | |
| 22:19 | joels68 | So I would need to put a 1 in 942 n for each record? |
| 22:20 | cait | hmmmm |
| 22:20 | you could maybe reimport them | |
| 22:21 | in 3.14 khall's amrc modificaton templates could do part of the batch job | |
| 22:21 | but they only work on staging | |
| 22:21 | wizzyrea | I think we have overlay type stuff now. |
| 22:21 | cait | oh |
| 22:21 | joels68 | How much $ for that gui enhancement again? |
| 22:22 | cait | joels68: do they want to hide the whole record? or just items of a collection and the record if the item is the only one? |
| 22:22 | wizzyrea | idk, would probably require a spec. |
| 22:22 | cait | i mean is there an item level thing you can recognize these records with? |
| 22:22 | wizzyrea | bug 5725 |
| 22:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Batch modifications for Biblios |
| 22:23 | wizzyrea | items often have ccodes. |
| 22:23 | bibs don't./ | |
| 22:23 | joels68 | the lib wants their items to be shadowed in opac but still visible on staff side. |
| 22:23 | wizzyrea | just the items? |
| 22:24 | joels68 | yep. |
| 22:24 | wizzyrea | item = the bib too, or just the item |
| 22:24 | sorry I should have asked the first question. | |
| 22:24 | the first question? | |
| 22:24 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 22:24 | wizzyrea | but you've mostly answered it I won't make you repeat yourself |
| 22:25 | joels68 | Just the item. They are moving their cassette tapes to storage so they don't want them seen in opac. |
| 22:26 | Lot's of reading to do for bug 5725.... | |
| 22:26 | cait | you want to take a look at opachiddenitems |
| 22:27 | it should be easy to do that without modifiying records :) | |
| 22:27 | it's a system preference | |
| 22:35 | joels68 | found opachiddenitems.txt. I'll need to start YAMLing... |
| 22:36 | rambutan | is there any way to ensure the integrity of a mysql db dump--that the dump is an exact representation of the data in the db? |
| 22:39 | eythian | Not especially |
| 22:39 | If you knew no changes were happening, you could do two dumps and compare them, but that's not likely to be that effective. | |
| 22:41 | realistically, the way to test backups is to do restores and make sure things still work. | |
| 22:43 | cait | good night all |
| 22:43 | eythian | later cait |
| 22:43 | joels68 | Good nite cait |
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| 22:44 | pianohacker | lazyweb: is there a link to the responsive demo? |
| 22:45 | joels68 | responsive opac? |
| 22:45 | jcamins | bootstrap.mykoha.co.nz, maybe? |
| 22:45 | bootstrap demo? | |
| 22:45 | bootstrap? | |
| 22:45 | wahanui | an up to date demo of the Bootstrap OPAC can be found at http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz - it's tracking from oleonard's branch bootstrap-opac on gitorious. Bug reports should be filed on bug 10309. |
| 22:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap |
| 22:45 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 22:45 | joels68 | http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz/ |
| 22:45 | jcamins | There ya go. |
| 22:47 | eythian | TIL jcamins is the lazyweb. |
| 22:47 | pianohacker | jcamins: Thanks much :) |
| 23:05 | wizzyrea | forget bootstrap |
| 23:05 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot bootstrap |
| 23:06 | wizzyrea | bootstrap is running in a demo at http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz. It tracks, reasonably closely, the current master version of Koha. |
| 23:11 | pianohacker | heycatalogers: Preferred name for Library of Congress call numbers? |
| 23:12 | Whatever egghead thought making two entirely different things that could reasonably be abbreviated LCCN... | |
| 23:12 | eythian | libconcalnums |
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| 23:14 | pianohacker | I approve. even better, LibConCalNums? Everyone loves SwankyCase! |
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| 23:19 | wizzyrea | that sounds like a librarian con, on call |
| 23:19 | my brain just can't do it. | |
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