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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | wizzyrea | yea no crust on that one. Unless you count the potatoes. |
| 00:00 | :P | |
| 00:00 | * bag | didn't really learn how to do roasted potatoes correctly until my last trip to see my english cousins |
| 00:01 | bag | I love them now - my grandma used to always make the best ones and Sonja and I could never repeat them |
| 00:02 | but gingin's grandma was feeding her persimmons today and calling it mango.. funny thing was gingin was finally saying the word "mango" | |
| 00:02 | poor girl will always call persimmons - mangos now | |
| 00:02 | jcamins ^^^ should enjoy that one | |
| 00:02 | eythian | I'm given to understand that they are really very different things |
| 00:02 | jcamins | lol |
| 00:02 | bag | yup :) |
| 00:11 | wizzyrea | I can't even... *sob* it's so beautiful. |
| 00:11 | * wizzyrea | ticks boxes and modifies and deletes items all afternoon |
| 00:12 | dcook | Question to package users... |
| 00:12 | How easy is it to go from a standard install to a package install? | |
| 00:13 | eythian | umm |
| 00:13 | it's quite possible | |
| 00:13 | dcook | That's good to hear :) |
| 00:13 | eythian | Though probably best done by setting a package-driven instance on the machine and moving the data into it. |
| 00:14 | dcook | That's what I was thinking, but I was wondering if that might cause any issues |
| 00:14 | I've only done package installs, but I imagine it depends on where they've put their Koha files? | |
| 00:16 | eythian | yeah, you could technically convert a regular install to a package install, but you'll always have issues with it I'd expect. |
| 00:18 | wizzyrea | khall is long gone eh |
| 00:18 | bag | yeah he's been out a few hours now |
| 00:18 | wizzyrea | is alright |
| 00:19 | I think merely invoking his name helped my understanding of what his test plan was trying to tell me | |
| 00:27 | WaylonR joined #koha | |
| 00:27 | WaylonR | hiya all |
| 00:27 | hiya mtompset | |
| 00:30 | dcook | Hmm, is there an uninstall option for Koha? |
| 00:30 | I've never noticed one.. | |
| 00:30 | jcamins | dcook: rm and drop database. |
| 00:31 | eythian | koha-remove |
| 00:31 | wahanui | i guess koha-remove is for removing instances. |
| 00:31 | jcamins | With packages, of course, koha-remove and apt-get purge |
| 00:31 | dcook | So go around and make sure you've nuked all the koha dirs? |
| 00:31 | jcamins | If you did a standard install, yeah, pretty much. |
| 00:32 | dcook | Then whatever apache config |
| 00:32 | jcamins | Right, that's one of the things you're rm'ing. |
| 00:32 | dcook | There's no system level Koha user with a standard install, right? |
| 00:32 | jcamins | If you created one there is. |
| 00:32 | But I'd ask myself why I was doing this, and probably decide this was unnecessary. | |
| 00:33 | dcook | Switching from standard to packages |
| 00:33 | (Or just in general deciding you don't want Koha anymore) | |
| 00:34 | eythian | in general, if you're repurposing a server, you'd reinstall everything anyway |
| 00:35 | jcamins | That's what I mean. I'd usually just reinstall the OS. |
| 00:37 | dcook | Interesting. That would be my default position as well, but I figured that might be a bit over and beyond what people would generally do. |
| 00:38 | jcamins | If you're running a serious server, paranoia should be the order of the day. |
| 00:38 | dcook | I suspected that I was in the right line of work...;) |
| 00:39 | Hmm. Good to know. | |
| 00:40 | Mind you, eythian, when you say in general...in general for vendors or in general for most folk? | |
| 00:40 | Surely people must run servers of their own that run multiple systems. | |
| 00:40 | Or would a smart sysadmin put every system on its own VM? | |
| 00:40 | eythian | if something is important enough to have a server devoted to it, you should do it right |
| 00:40 | yeah | |
| 00:41 | even the little self-hosting councils we work with have a system with a bunch of VMs | |
| 00:41 | it's pretty much the best practice way these days | |
| 00:41 | dcook | It certainly seems the most common |
| 00:41 | Oh, looks like the internet is going down... | |
| 00:41 | If I cut out, thanks for the help and advice :) | |
| 00:42 | I'll have to inquire with the folks I might be helping | |
| 00:42 | jcamins | dcook: for a personal server, I wouldn't worry about uninstalling unless I was running out of space. In which case I would apply rm judiciously. |
| 00:44 | dcook | Although you'd only need to do so for programs that you installed from source, yes? |
| 00:44 | As packages seem pretty easy to remove overall | |
| 00:44 | In this case, I'm just wondering about any potential conflicts | |
| 00:45 | Like trying to install the packages but finding outdated Koha files already there and then things exploding | |
| 00:46 | eythian | the packages and a tarball install some things to the same location, so there is a small risk of something going a bit weird. |
| 00:47 | dcook | Exactly my fear |
| 00:48 | I suppose I could use the koha-install-log as a wayfinder.. | |
| 00:52 | Hmm, I swear there used to be a page that said where the packages put files... | |
| 00:53 | Ahh | |
| 00:53 | eythian | apt-file list koha-common |
| 00:54 | dcook | debian / koha-common.README.Debian is the one I was thinking of |
| 00:54 | But I like your way much better | |
| 00:55 | eythian | also debian/koha-common.dirs and what not in there |
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| 00:57 | dcook | Apparently I don't have the apt-file command.. |
| 00:58 | wizzyrea | apt file, no dash? |
| 00:58 | dcook | Looks like it has a dash |
| 00:59 | jcamins | apt-get install apt-file? |
| 00:59 | dcook | jcamins: That's my next thought, but I think it's supposed to just be a command in apt O_o |
| 01:00 | jcamins | apt-file? No it's not. |
| 01:00 | dcook | I guess it does have its own package, huh |
| 01:00 | jcamins | You're thinking of... |
| 01:00 | wizzyrea | yeesh, what OS? |
| 01:00 | dcook | wizzyrea: Debian |
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| 01:00 | jcamins | dpkg -c |
| 01:00 | But dpkg -c requires you to have the deb package file. | |
| 01:01 | Or you're thinking of apt-cache show -f, which I believe requires you to have the package installed. | |
| 01:04 | eythian | apt-file is its own thing because it's not something that end users generally need, and it also has to maintain an extra database of all package info |
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| 01:06 | dcook | Hmm, laptop is not having a good day |
| 01:06 | Well, thanks in any case :) | |
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| 02:00 | mtompset | WaylonR: I'm working up my listed of things I commented on, so I'll make it back to 9055 eventually. |
| 02:00 | dpk: You here? | |
| 02:25 | WaylonR | mtompset, cool. |
| 02:57 | wizzyrea | errr |
| 02:57 | with the syspref UseCourseReserves set to "don't use" should course reserves be showing up in the More menu? | |
| 02:59 | the syspref does seem to correctly hide it from the OPAC | |
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| 03:01 | wizzyrea | @later tell khall question: with the syspref UseCourseReserves set to "don't use" should course reserves be showing up in the More menu? |
| 03:01 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:47 | mtompset | wizzyrea: Is that related to a bug? |
| 03:47 | wizzyrea | it is, if it's not intended ;) |
| 03:47 | but no, not a formal bug, yet. | |
| 03:52 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 03:52 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (4:30 PM NZDT on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 04:09 | bag | evening |
| 04:09 | @wunder 93102 | |
| 04:09 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 10.9°C (8:09 PM PST on November 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
| 04:10 | eythian | why do people keep trying to port koha to windows? It just seems like a bad idea. |
| 04:10 | mtompset | eythian: Because a large percentage of computers run windows by default when you purchase them. |
| 04:10 | And being able to use koha on a default computer is a nice thing. | |
| 04:11 | eythian | It's not a server-quality operating system, unless you pay extra. |
| 04:12 | also, I'd expect you'd spend more time making things work that are a bit broken than you would spend installing and learning linux. | |
| 04:12 | bag | I'm with eythian on this -- WHY |
| 04:12 | mtompset | I'll give you that, but you should already know that if some corners can be cut, people will cut them. |
| 04:12 | eythian | it certainly sounds like the wrong corner to cut |
| 04:12 | you're also totally out of the update stream and running an unsupported system | |
| 04:13 | mtompset | That is true. And yes... but people are afraid of learning curves. |
| 04:13 | Fear makes people do stupid things. | |
| 04:14 | bag | ah but eythian that's from the Secretary General |
| 04:14 | eythian | bag: oh, so it is! |
| 04:14 | mtompset | Where are you reading this?! |
| 04:14 | eythian | |
| 04:14 | mtompset | oh my! |
| 04:14 | eythian | koha-devel |
| 04:14 | wahanui | koha-devel is most likely the best koha list there is (Hey, Im a bot, im biased) and can be found at http://lists.koha-community.or[…]stinfo/koha-devel |
| 04:15 | bag | I'd like a fun signature like that |
| 04:15 | from bag - jedi wannabe | |
| 04:16 | * bag | waves hand and eythian accepts |
| 04:16 | eythian | heh |
| 04:17 | bag | DAMN it works!!! |
| 04:17 | * bag | quickly takes a screenshot |
| 04:34 | bag | nice response eythian |
| 04:34 | eythian++ | |
| 04:34 | heya mtompset I forget were are you located? | |
| 04:35 | mtompset | currently Canada. |
| 04:38 | bag | ah |
| 04:38 | mtompset | Yourself, bag? |
| 04:39 | I'm in Ontario. | |
| 04:39 | bag | Santa Barbara CA |
| 04:39 | otherwise paradise :P | |
| 04:39 | heh | |
| 04:43 | mtompset | gangster or amish? ;) |
| 04:45 | dcook | bag: You have some strange weather though |
| 04:45 | Wasn't it nearly 20 degrees higher just the other day | |
| 04:45 | bag | yeah that was an odd evening |
| 04:45 | tonight is a little more normal | |
| 04:48 | but it was still close to 20 during the day - which is it most days of the year | |
| 04:52 | dcook | Does sound rather nice :) |
| 05:04 | Can someone else take a look at the DelItem sub in Items.pm? | |
| 05:05 | Specifically line 626 in master | |
| 05:05 | It looks like we're trying to set a 'marc' column in the 'deleteditems' table | |
| 05:09 | The code looks the same in 3.8 and we're getting software errors | |
| 05:09 | I don't know how that could've ever worked though O_o | |
| 05:09 | mtompset | looking, dcook. |
| 05:09 | dcook | Thanks, mtompset :) |
| 05:10 | bag | hmm dcook give me like 5 minutes and I can look also |
| 05:10 | mtompset | I thought when you deleted an item, it was to transfer from the items table into the deleted items table. |
| 05:10 | dcook | Sweet. Sure thing, bag. |
| 05:10 | bag | just one more thing to get done and then I'm all yours |
| 05:10 | dcook | Agreed, mtompset |
| 05:10 | _koha_delete_item transfers the row from the items table to the deleted items table then removes the row from the items table | |
| 05:11 | After that though... | |
| 05:12 | We reindex Zebra with the bib record (without any items attached), then try to put marc into the deleteditems table O_o | |
| 05:12 | mtompset | Actually, that's the thing I find weird. |
| 05:12 | Does the GetMarcBiblio require the item to still be there? | |
| 05:13 | dcook | GetMarcBiblio just gets the Marcxml |
| 05:13 | Although it takes an optional parameter to add in the items to that Marcxml record | |
| 05:14 | Which is missing in this case | |
| 05:14 | mtompset | But _koha_delete_item shouldn't affect the MarcXML field. |
| 05:14 | dcook | No, it wouldn't |
| 05:14 | mtompset | So, I guess setting the marc=? means it is trying to tie back to the original MARC. |
| 05:14 | dcook | But in Zebra we use a combination of the marcxml bib record and the items (which we build into xml that we integrate into that marcxml) |
| 05:15 | mtompset | Hmmm... if the MARCXML field isn't updated when you delete, then your indexing will break. |
| 05:15 | dcook | It would appear that way to me |
| 05:15 | mtompset | Is that what you are getting at, dcook? |
| 05:17 | dcook | Also, I have someone who is getting fatal software errors |
| 05:17 | Which seems odd, as I figure someone would've noticed those before.. | |
| 05:17 | * mtompset | grumbles about the evils of the indexing mechanisms. :) |
| 05:20 | bag | dcook: is this on master? |
| 05:20 | back | |
| 05:22 | dcook | Yep |
| 05:23 | Ahhh, interesting. I see a deleteditems table with a marc column in it | |
| 05:23 | bag: Sorry, the error isn't | |
| 05:23 | The error is on 3.8 | |
| 05:23 | But the code is the same as master | |
| 05:23 | (3.8.0 to be exact) | |
| 05:24 | bag | according to schema marc is unused in Koha |
| 05:24 | http://schema.koha-community.o[…]deleteditems.html | |
| 05:24 | dcook | Intriguing. Tis lies! |
| 05:24 | mtompset | It is lies. |
| 05:25 | Code says otherwise. | |
| 05:25 | Code never lies. | |
| 05:25 | bag | dcook: the only thing that I can think of is that - this is left over code from when items where in the marc-record |
| 05:25 | ie. before 3.4 when we started stripping out the 952's (well that's MARC21) | |
| 05:25 | dcook | bag: Agreed |
| 05:26 | bag | so since the items aren't in marcformat anymore it doesn't cause a problem |
| 05:26 | and most likely your error is from something else | |
| 05:26 | dcook | Yeah, the error looks like something else |
| 05:26 | Well, sort of | |
| 05:26 | bag | so what exactly is the error? |
| 05:26 | dcook | If you look in your deleteditems table, you show see a 'marc' column |
| 05:26 | bag | you may have posted it early and I missed it |
| 05:27 | show/should ? | |
| 05:27 | dcook | Ah yes, should ;) |
| 05:27 | bag | ok one sec - let me bring up a server |
| 05:27 | dcook | In my case, it appears that is missing from this person's database which is distinctly odd |
| 05:27 | So the software error is just my problem (despite being an outdated bit of code) | |
| 05:28 | I think it likely that the indexing isn't working properly though | |
| 05:28 | bag | poop my dev server is not really used much - but that's an empty set for me |
| 05:29 | ah dcook just alter that table then | |
| 05:29 | ah indexing is a different problem | |
| 05:29 | and 3.8 I think there was an issue with indexing IIRC | |
| 05:29 | also are you using DOM or GRS1 | |
| 05:30 | most likely it sounds like you should just do a full reindes... what's the size of the db # of recors | |
| 05:30 | records | |
| 05:30 | * bag | types too fast when he's excited |
| 05:33 | scared away dcook :( | |
| 05:33 | bag | heh |
| 05:34 | dcook | Sorry, was chatting to the boss ;) |
| 05:34 | mtompset | is the alphabetical order in systempreference supposed to be case sensitive? |
| 05:34 | dcook | bag: Yeah, I'm just going to alter the table to fix the software error |
| 05:35 | bag | cool |
| 05:35 | mtompset: I have no idea | |
| 05:35 | dcook | As for the indexing, the filter wouldn't matter. It's the special update |
| 05:35 | I might take a little look to see if it does break the indexed record.. | |
| 05:35 | Well, maybe not break so much as corrupt | |
| 05:36 | bag | a full reindex would clear any special updates :) |
| 05:36 | dcook | oh brb |
| 05:38 | bag | hmm the signed off queue isn't too bad right now - I'm seeing 55 and only 34 bugs - pretty awesome job #koha |
| 05:38 | * bag | looks to see if there is a good bug to QA tonight |
| 05:41 | bag | hmm bug 11112 |
| 05:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11112 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Koha::Calendar->new loads all holidays |
| 05:42 | mtompset | bug 11242? |
| 05:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11242 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , fix opac-MARCdetail.pl bizarre ordering of data and noisy warnings |
| 05:44 | bag | anything with speed and I'm all about testing (as long as it's in my skill set) :P |
| 05:44 | oh mtompset I'll look at that one next | |
| 05:45 | mtompset | I figure it was small and simple enough. :) |
| 05:45 | bag | cool give me 20 minutes and I'm on it |
| 05:45 | mtompset | Anything to quiet the floody error logs. :) |
| 05:46 | bag | usually I'm about 20 minutes per patch :) |
| 05:46 | mtompset | Depends on the patch size. ;) |
| 05:47 | bag | bigger they are add onto 20 minutes then :D |
| 05:47 | mtompset | Another small, remove floodiness type bug is bug 11183. :) |
| 05:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11183 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Warnings in opac |
| 05:54 | dcook | back |
| 05:54 | thanks bag and mtompset for looking into that issue before with me :) | |
| 06:13 | mtompset | not a problem. |
| 06:13 | bag | ok I've hit my tired point |
| 06:13 | zzzzzzzzzz | |
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| 06:22 | mtompset | As have I, bag. |
| 06:23 | Have a great day, #koha cait WaylonR bag dcook etc. :) | |
| 06:38 | * cait | waves sleepily |
| 06:38 | dcook | hey ya cait :) |
| 06:38 | * dcook | says pretending not to be at the office |
| 06:39 | cait | jej |
| 06:39 | heh even | |
| 06:39 | dcook | Oh my, you are tired! |
| 06:40 | Cheap tuesday cinema though, so I'm out! | |
| 06:40 | Have a good day, cait :) | |
| 06:40 | (And everyone else!) | |
| 06:40 | cait | thx |
| 06:42 | rangi | evening |
| 06:43 | @later tell tcohen yeah squashing them is probably the easiest/best | |
| 06:43 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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| 07:36 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 07:38 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:38 | wahanui | hi, reiveune |
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| 07:38 | magnuse | bonjour paul_p et reiveune |
| 07:39 | @wunder boo | |
| 07:39 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:39 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 07:39 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 13.0°C (8:30 AM CET on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:39 | magnuse | @wunder konstanz |
| 07:39 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.2°C (8:35 AM CET on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). |
| 07:39 | reiveune | salut magnuse , cait, kathryn , rangi |
| 07:39 | cait | hi reiveune |
| 07:39 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
| 07:42 | cait | good morning paul_p |
| 07:44 | ok, have to run, bye | |
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| 07:52 | samueld | hi everybody |
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| 07:58 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:58 | wahanui | salut, alex_a |
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| 09:22 | cait | hi #koha |
| 09:26 | Joubu: thx for the seasons :) does the automatic locale detection work for you? it didn't for me butit's a bit hard to test | |
| 09:31 | Joubu | no, it does not work |
| 09:39 | cait | ah, not good |
| 09:39 | i was hoping i just missed changing something - i couldn't test with french | |
| 09:40 | Joubu: bug 11265 | |
| 09:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11265 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Problems with locale saving/editing on serial subscriptions |
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| 09:44 | schnydszch | Hi! Koha community, I'm trying out this UPDATE items SET more_subfields_xml = UpdateXML(more_subfields_xml, '//datafield[@tag="952"]/subfield[@code="i"]/text()', 'MR_00-00032-(PO); MD_2001-04-08') where barcode = '27490' so I can update my items field. |
| 09:44 | this in mysql. would it be possible? | |
| 09:45 | rangi | hmm if they come back, the answer is no |
| 09:45 | post 3.4 | |
| 09:47 | magnuse | oh rangi, there was something i wanted to ask you |
| 09:47 | the opl people have trouble cloning from git.koha-community.org, because of firewall issues | |
| 09:48 | do you think it would be doable to enable cloning over http? | |
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| 09:48 | schnydszch | hmm. how do i do it correctly? is there a way? |
| 09:49 | rangi | schnydszch: actually i was wrong, 952i isnt mapped, so yes that should work |
| 09:49 | schnydszch | I have 952i set actually |
| 09:49 | rangi | magnuse: they can clone from the mirror http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git |
| 09:49 | cait | it's mapped in latre versions only i think |
| 09:50 | rangi | schnydszch: then you just change the column it's mapped to |
| 09:50 | schnydszch | it's institutional |
| 09:50 | but i get 0 row(s) affected. | |
| 09:50 | rangi | more_subfields_xml is only for those ones that are not mapped to an actual column in items |
| 09:50 | magnuse | rangi: thanks, i think that is what they are doing already |
| 09:51 | rangi | schnydszch: and you are sure there is data in that column? |
| 09:51 | schnydszch | hmm no data |
| 09:51 | how to do it if it has no data? | |
| 09:52 | rangi | well did you just recently map it? |
| 09:52 | and is that data in more_subfields_xml instead? | |
| 09:52 | schnydszch | map meaning added in MARC Bibliographic Frameworks? |
| 09:53 | I added it a long long time ago | |
| 09:54 | I think it's not in more_subfield_xml since, it was leave blank | |
| 09:54 | rangi | and its not in the column you mapped it to? |
| 09:55 | schnydszch | we haven't implemented adding data in 951i yet |
| 09:55 | 952i | |
| 09:56 | For this particularly bibliographic record, there is no data in 952i yet. | |
| 09:59 | rangi | right |
| 10:00 | so update items set whatevercolumn = 'value' where barcode = 'something' | |
| 10:00 | schnydszch | I added the subfields a long long time ago |
| 10:01 | yep but i'm updating xml data in more_subfields_xml :) | |
| 10:03 | rangi | why? |
| 10:03 | if you mapped it to a column | |
| 10:03 | then you dont do that | |
| 10:03 | and you said you mapped it to a column | |
| 10:04 | mapped meaning linking it to a column in the items table | |
| 10:05 | * rangi | goes to sleep |
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| 10:14 | schnydszch | linking in the Advance constraints? I leave it blank |
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| 13:12 | tcohen | morning |
| 13:13 | cait | hi tcohen |
| 13:13 | tcohen | hi cait |
| 13:13 | where's kf? | |
| 13:13 | wahanui | kf is probably cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. |
| 13:14 | cait | kf got kidnapped |
| 13:15 | magnuse | good thing we have cait as a backup! |
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| 13:16 | cait | tcohen: someone else is using the nick i think |
| 13:16 | yeah... so i lost | |
| 13:16 | tcohen | cait: maybe my notebook :-D |
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| 13:26 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 13:42 | tcohen | gmcharlt: "Tag 50% is not a valid tag", does it sound familiar |
| 13:44 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "gmcharlt: I get this when running prove -v t/db_dependent/Search.t" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/264 |
| 13:44 | tcohen | (btw: I wrapped a new_from_xml call from _Zconn_event in an eval block) |
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| 14:42 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 14:51 | oleonard | Hi gaetan_B |
| 15:03 | cait | hi oleonard and gaetan_B :) |
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| 15:05 | gaetan_B | hi cait, hi oleonard :) |
| 15:20 | mtompset | Greetings, gaetan_B oleonard cait maximep rambutan. :) |
| 15:21 | rambutan | morning |
| 15:21 | cait | hi mtompset and rambutan |
| 15:21 | rambutan | morning cait |
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| 15:59 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug11221' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]102e6269a59bcfd58> / Bug 11221: (follow-up) test for NULL rather than empty string <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3e71f7239eaf50b25> / Bug 11221: (follow-up) add unit test to test handling empty strings as dates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k |
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| 16:02 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #224 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:02 | gmcharlt | tcohen: the warning is fine; please read the commit log for t/db_depedendent/Search.t regarding bug 10684 |
| 16:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10684 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Koha search dies on undecodable records |
| 16:03 | tcohen | i've attached a small followup for bug 11096 so the tests pass |
| 16:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Koha cannot retreive big records from Zebra |
| 16:06 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1512 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
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| 16:11 | paul123 | hello |
| 16:11 | I am am a newbie at Koha | |
| 16:12 | i've manage to setup Koha 3.12 | |
| 16:12 | oleonard | Hi paul123 |
| 16:13 | cait | hi paul |
| 16:13 | paul123: | |
| 16:13 | paul123 | now, I am importing data into Koha via Stage import |
| 16:13 | hi guys | |
| 16:13 | my records (books) do not have barcode | |
| 16:14 | so my question is, is it possible to autogenerate barcode for these imported records? | |
| 16:16 | oleonard | I don't think you can do that on import paul123 |
| 16:16 | paul123 | hmm |
| 16:17 | cait | paul123: I thin oleonard is right there |
| 16:17 | you will have to edit them later - or you could manipulate them on sql level, but then you have to make sure you reindex | |
| 16:17 | reindex = rebuild your search index | |
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| 16:18 | paul123 | i've been using MarcEdit to parse my records from a txt file |
| 16:19 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug8854' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3cd70649d60a568d8> / bug 8854: fix some invoice search filters <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c6e3d21f5e01dc364> |
| 16:19 | paul123 | is there a tool that I can use autogenerate barcodes for these 36,000 records before staging import? |
| 16:24 | SlyzertVoltrond | you mean the barcodes aren't already in there? |
| 16:24 | oleonard | paul123: I too use MarcEdit to perform batch edits before importing, but I'm not aware of a feature which will generate barcodes |
| 16:25 | ashimema | anyone here happen to have pazpar working and want to test a bug? |
| 16:28 | oleonard | ashimema: I wonder if any of the changes to that template over the last few years have actually been tested |
| 16:29 | ashimema | I thought that.. but it's a shame that my patch is being blocked because of it |
| 16:32 | Going through the code on that page, I can't see that it's been updated in many years for the other fixes that have gone in elsewhere. | |
| 16:32 | oleonard: Did you test it for bootstrap..? | |
| 16:33 | oleonard | Nope :P |
| 16:34 | ashimema | haha.. then your right.. I don't thik anyone has tested it in years.. |
| 16:34 | cait | ashimema: remind me a bit later? i think that is not really actively used |
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| 16:34 | cait | but have to run out now |
| 16:34 | bye all | |
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| 16:34 | ashimema | Maybe I can get pianohacker to try it out.. I know he's got pazpar running at least as he uses it for his overdirve stuff |
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| 16:38 | francharb | good morning all |
| 16:41 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug11269' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e6b3c2adc3d8c2737> / Bug 11269: fix incorrect use of MARC::Field->subfield() <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7fbbf66393f8a2c69> |
| 16:46 | paul_p | welcome back francharb !!! |
| 16:47 | francharb (j'ai pas eu le temps de te saluer sur notre channel BibLibre, tu es passé trop vite ;-) ) | |
| 16:49 | jcamins | francharb: morning? Did you move to Canada? |
| 16:49 | bag | morning |
| 16:49 | wahanui | morning is a state of cat |
| 16:49 | * ebegin | is proud to announce that francharb (previously from BibLibre) is now located in Montreal and working for inLibro |
| 16:49 | francharb | yes jcamins |
| 16:49 | wahanui | jcamins is very, very irascible. |
| 16:49 | bag | coolness :) |
| 16:50 | reiveune | bye |
| 16:50 | jcamins | Awesome! Welcome to this side of the Atlantic! |
| 16:50 | francharb | I moved a couple of month ago |
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| 16:50 | francharb | late june |
| 16:50 | druthb | hi, francharb! :) |
| 16:50 | francharb | and here I am, back in the game ;) |
| 16:50 | thank you jcamins! | |
| 16:50 | hi druthb | |
| 16:51 | whats up in texas? | |
| 16:52 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #224: UNSTABLE in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/224/ |
| 16:52 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11221: ensure that SQLHelper uses NULL rather than 0000-00-00 as default date value | |
| 16:52 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 11221: (follow-up) add unit test to test handling empty strings as dates | |
| 16:52 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11221: (follow-up) test for NULL rather than empty string | |
| 16:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11221 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , New patrons are created with invalid dateofbirth value if field is left empty |
| 16:53 | druthb | The temperature, for one thing, francharb. Unseasonably warm for this time of year. |
| 16:53 | @wunder 77098 | |
| 16:53 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 19.4°C (10:53 AM CST on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
| 16:53 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #225 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #223 4 days 1 hr ago) |
| 16:53 | gmcharlt | francharb++ |
| 16:53 | druthb | And other than that, work work work… :) |
| 16:53 | francharb | thank you gmcharlt |
| 16:53 | @wunder montreal | |
| 16:53 | huginn | francharb: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 16:54 | francharb | ahah |
| 16:54 | ebegin | @wunder montreal quebec |
| 16:54 | huginn | ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 1.0°C (11:00 AM EST on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 16:54 | druthb | brr |
| 16:54 | * paul_p | is very happy to see francharb back ! really ! |
| 16:54 | francharb | anyway, it's colder here than in houston, for sure! |
| 16:55 | * paul_p | think ebegin had a good idea hiring francharb. And hope francharb had negociated a good income, because he's worth it ;-) |
| 16:55 | paul_p | (and everybody will be happy at the end) |
| 16:55 | francharb | :) |
| 16:55 | bag | :) |
| 16:55 | @wunder 93102 | |
| 16:55 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 14.3°C (8:55 AM PST on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
| 16:56 | francharb | I'm glad being back here! |
| 16:56 | for now, I need to set up my laptop! | |
| 16:56 | see ya | |
| 17:14 | tcohen | paul_p: you have a couple of pictures in your phone i'd like to see :-D |
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| 17:20 | * cait | waves |
| 17:22 | * ashimema | waves |
| 17:22 | paul_p | tcohen you're right. could you drop me a mail so I don't forget ? |
| 17:23 | tcohen | paul_p: of course. how are u doing? |
| 17:25 | paul_p | not sure, but I'll probably put them on my piwigo gallery |
| 17:25 | druthb | hi, cait! :) |
| 17:25 | cait | hi druthb :) |
| 17:25 | lovely photo on fb :) | |
| 17:25 | druthb | thanx! :) |
| 17:27 | The boss handed out holiday presents at the banquet last night. AAA membership, chocolates, and movie tickets. :) | |
| 17:27 | cait | aaa? |
| 17:28 | druthb | automobile service club. |
| 17:28 | cait | oh |
| 17:28 | druthb | roadside service, trip planning, some other discounts. |
| 17:28 | cait | what did you get? |
| 17:28 | all of that? :) | |
| 17:28 | druthb | Same as everyone else—all three. |
| 17:28 | cait | very cool :) |
| 17:28 | gmcharlt | @arewethereyet |
| 17:28 | huginn | gmcharlt: Error: The command "arewethereyet" is available in the Assorted and ReleaseDay plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "arewethereyet". |
| 17:28 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 17:28 | cait | hi gmcharlt :) |
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| 17:29 | druthb | yep. There are 190 employees now—I estimate they spent nearly $20K on those presents this year. The for-profit world is a very different pace. |
| 17:29 | cait | sounds like it |
| 17:29 | wahanui | sounds like it is beer o'clock for you dcook? ;) |
| 17:29 | paul_p | tcohen http://famillepoulain.piwigo.c[…]con13_reno_nevada |
| 17:29 | cait | we have a christmas party, but everyone pays for their food :) |
| 17:29 | gmcharlt | @arewethereyet |
| 17:29 | huginn | gmcharlt: Not yet - wait 2 days |
| 17:30 | cait | gmcharlt: getting impatient? :) |
| 17:30 | druthb | We had open bar cocktail hour, then dinner. The filet mignon was just wonderful. :) |
| 17:31 | tcohen | paul_p++ |
| 17:32 | gmcharlt | paul_p++ |
| 17:33 | paul_p | for the record = piwigo is an OpenSource project, managed by Pierrick Le Gall, that oldtimers of the Koha community probably remember ;-) |
| 17:34 | cait | nice photos :) |
| 17:34 | tcohen | great photos! |
| 17:36 | cait | tcohen: oh, you had yours on google+ right? |
| 17:36 | druthb | great photos, and a great-looking gallery—I've been using Gallery3, and I dislike it a lot. |
| 17:36 | cait | i wanted to download a few to show my family over the holidays |
| 17:36 | druthb | Might be migration time. |
| 17:36 | tcohen | cait: yes |
| 17:37 | cait | found thenm :) |
| 17:38 | i like the photo with tcohen and the pumpkin ;) | |
| 17:38 | tcohen | heh |
| 17:40 | cait | ok, i have paul_p and tcohen - the rest is on flickr? :) |
| 17:41 | druthb | I haven't got all mine up yet, but they'll be on gallery.hiruthie.net. |
| 17:41 | s/all/any of/ | |
| 17:43 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 17:43 | Project master_maria build #225: FIXED in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/225/ | |
| 17:43 | * Galen Charlton: bug 8854: fix some invoice search filters | |
| 17:43 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11269: fix incorrect use of MARC::Field->subfield() | |
| 17:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8854 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , invoice filters don't all work |
| 17:43 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11269 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Latest MARC::Record makes visible some wrong usage of field->subfield in C4::Search | |
| 17:47 | oleonard | That reminds me... I started posting photos to flickr and then didn't finish... |
| 18:02 | tcohen | :-D |
| 18:02 | oleonard++ # more photos | |
| 18:04 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #124 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 18:06 | mtompset | tcohen: DOH! I didn't report it. Thanks for reporting and fixing it. |
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| 18:16 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11221: ensure that SQLHelper uses NULL rather than 0000-00-00 as default date value | |
| 18:16 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 11221: (follow-up) add unit test to test handling empty strings as dates | |
| 18:16 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 11221: (follow-up) test for NULL rather than empty string | |
| 18:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11221 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , New patrons are created with invalid dateofbirth value if field is left empty |
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| 19:02 | mtompset | Wow... Koha Pi is coming. |
| 19:02 | 1 more day. | |
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| 19:03 | gaetan_B | bye! |
| 19:03 | jcamins | rambutan: random non-Koha question for you: who do you permit to use the 3d printer? |
| 19:05 | The question of whether kids have access to 3d printers came up in a conversation. | |
| 19:05 | rambutan | We havn't had time to finish building it, but when we do, after a short test phase where we figure out how to use it ourselves.... |
| 19:05 | we will let just about any patron use it, including kids. | |
| 19:05 | cait | yay! |
| 19:06 | jcamins | Nice! |
| 19:06 | Thanks. | |
| 19:06 | rambutan | The way we envision it working is that they (all them "thays") will download/created the images, put it on an SD card, put that in the printer, and we help them print it out |
| 19:07 | mtompset | Does cpanm have the same search path and upgrading uses that installing libraries using cpan does? |
| 19:07 | * oleonard | needs to find somewhere to print one of these http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:43874 |
| 19:07 | mtompset | (as compared to installing from repository libraries) |
| 19:07 | rambutan | We will, certainly in the beginning anyway, have some physical control over the printer itself, to keep it safe from younger patrons, but it's not like we'll have it under wraps either. |
| 19:08 | rangi | morning |
| 19:08 | cait | morning rangi |
| 19:08 | mtompset | Greetings, rangi. :) |
| 19:09 | oleonard: You have a busted pen that needs that part? | |
| 19:09 | oleonard | yeah, stupid tiny piece of plastic |
| 19:11 | jcamins | A friend of mine is probably buying a 3d printer. I'll have him make you one. |
| 19:11 | Remind me. | |
| 19:11 | rangi | we have one in the chch office, we used to have a reprap here in the wellington office too |
| 19:12 | oleonard | Cool, thanks. Really I should poke around here at the university, someone's sure to have one eh? |
| 19:12 | rangi | bound to |
| 19:13 | janPasi | mulla on \<janp[pa].* |
| 19:13 | äh | |
| 19:13 | wrong channel | |
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| 19:14 | oleonard | Well, there I go: http://www.ohio.edu/research/c[…]ons/3dprinter.cfm |
| 19:15 | rambutan | we have the mendelmax 2, if anybody cares. http://www.makerstoolworks.com Open hardware (like open source software), |
| 19:16 | All right, ya'll got me woked up. | |
| 19:16 | So I think it's great that Koha has an open source chat channel where you can actually talk to the coders--the real producers of the software, and especially... | |
| 19:17 | some of the original people like Chris. I just think thats amazing. That wouldn't happen with | |
| 19:18 | rangi | i doubt any of the original coders are left there |
| 19:18 | been replaced with salespeople | |
| 19:18 | cait | rambutan: now you are making him feel old again *hides* |
| 19:19 | rangi | heh |
| 19:19 | rambutan | and the same thing is happening with 3d printers--it's still a very new technology, but I can get on freenode - #reprap and talk to sound and Josef Prusa and all the original |
| 19:19 | engineers. | |
| 19:19 | someday that will probably go away, although quite happily it hasn't happened to koha yet. | |
| 19:21 | rangi | vik olliver used to work for catalyst |
| 19:21 | if you are chatting with him, tell him i say hi :) | |
| 19:22 | rambutan | don't know him by that nick |
| 19:23 | rangi | http://reprap.org/wiki/User:VikOlliver |
| 19:25 | rambutan | "sound" is the nick of an Italian programer that produces http://slic3r.org/ |
| 19:28 | I see Vik Olliver does have a nick on #reprap, but he's not currently logged on. | |
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| 19:37 | mtompset | since I have a window 8.1 machine. I'm trying something crazy... installing Koha... let's see what horrible problems I encounter using strawberry perl. :) |
| 19:37 | rambutan | Josef Prusa - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viz4Ijahddg |
| 19:39 | cait | brb |
| 19:39 | rangi | mtompset: why dont you try the bundle just to see if it even works |
| 19:39 | it should be strawberry perl | |
| 19:40 | mtompset | the one from pakistan? |
| 19:40 | rambutan | sound - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA6jmg_zcQo |
| 19:40 | rangi | yep |
| 19:40 | mtompset | They didn't give a link to it. |
| 19:40 | I went to the web page, and couldn't find it. | |
| 19:40 | rangi | ah maybe ask for one ;) that would seem like a useful thing to try |
| 19:44 | mtompset | Okay... doing that. |
| 19:44 | In the mean time. Trying for myself. :) | |
| 19:47 | paul123 | hi |
| 19:47 | wahanui | hi, paul123 |
| 19:47 | paul123 | i have a question about displaying the call number in Koha |
| 19:47 | more specifically in OPAC | |
| 19:48 | I am managing a library that uses a custom call/classification number | |
| 19:48 | so I tagged it with the 084a tag | |
| 19:48 | however, when I search for a book in OPAC it doesn't display the call number | |
| 19:49 | how can I make it show and indicate that a book is available | |
| 19:49 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 19:50 | rangi | id tag it at the item level |
| 19:51 | paul123 | can you tell me how I can do that? |
| 19:51 | wizzyrea | yeah it sounds like you want to show the call number of the item, not the bib |
| 19:51 | rangi | 952t |
| 19:51 | sorry nope | |
| 19:51 | 952o | |
| 19:52 | and then in 952$2 put your classification scheme | |
| 19:54 | paul123 | so you're saying, I should tag my records with 952... at the MARCEdit stage? |
| 19:54 | * wizzyrea | had never looked at the classification sources page - nifty! |
| 19:55 | rangi | paul123: 952 is for items, you should already have 952 fields for any biblio records taht you actually have copies of |
| 19:56 | things cant be available, if you dont have items attached | |
| 19:56 | (unless they are electronic of course, but even then its better to make an item for them) | |
| 19:57 | mtompset | strangely... this is going better than I recall last time. |
| 19:58 | paul123 | hmm, when I created my custom Bibli Framework for Books, I didn't create that tag |
| 19:58 | mtompset | with the -b -r flags added to koha_perl_deps.pl, and strawberry perl having cpanm installed by default. All is going well so far. |
| 19:58 | cait | paul_p: hm be careful with creating your own, advice is to base on default and only hide fields you don't need |
| 19:59 | because there are some fields koha needs | |
| 19:59 | oh | |
| 19:59 | paul123: | |
| 19:59 | too many pauls :) | |
| 19:59 | paul123 | hehe |
| 20:02 | hmm, I was tired of hiding too many tags just for a simple book, so I created a smaller framework to import them | |
| 20:03 | I only need 15 fields | |
| 20:04 | so are you saying, I should reimport my records into Koha with the 952 field set? | |
| 20:04 | cait | you should define the fields in the framewrk first |
| 20:04 | rangi | do you want items? |
| 20:04 | cait | and also some others |
| 20:05 | rangi | cos if you want to ever be able to circulate, you need those |
| 20:05 | cait | and run the marc frameworks test |
| 20:05 | paul123 | actually, my custom framework has the field 952 defined |
| 20:05 | I just didn't attach any data to it in my records | |
| 20:06 | ok, I just ran the Framework Test | |
| 20:06 | and got one error | |
| 20:06 | item fields ALL items fields MUST : | |
| 20:06 | be mapped to the same tag, | |
| 20:06 | and they must all be in the 10 (items) tab | |
| 20:08 | and this is my custom Framework for Books | |
| 20:08 | TagLibRepeatableMandatory | |
| 20:08 | 20ISBNYesNo | |
| 20:08 | 24BARCODENoYes | |
| 20:08 | 84STS Call NumberNoYes | |
| 20:08 | 100AUTHOR NAMEYesYes | |
| 20:08 | 245BOOK TITLEYesYes | |
| 20:08 | 250EDITIONNoNo | |
| 20:08 | 260PUBLICATIONYesYes | |
| 20:08 | 300PHYSICAL DESCRIPTIONNoNo | |
| 20:08 | 377LANGUAGENoNo | |
| 20:08 | 500NOTESYesNo | |
| 20:09 | 520SYNOPSISNoNo | |
| 20:09 | 541REGISTERED DATENoNo | |
| 20:09 | 942ADDED ENTRY ELEMENTS (KOHA)NoNo | |
| 20:09 | 952LOCATION AND ITEM INFORMATION (KOHA)YesNo | |
| 20:09 | 999SYSTEM CONTROL NUMBERS(KOHA)YesNo | |
| 20:10 | wizzyrea | yeah you've nuked out your items fields |
| 20:10 | I suggest using the default framework for your first go at an import | |
| 20:10 | see how it works | |
| 20:10 | then hide, don't delete, fields. | |
| 20:11 | paul123 | with the default framework there are over 300 tags, is there a way to quickly hide the ones that are not relevant? |
| 20:12 | cait | hm, the only quick way i can think of is using sql |
| 20:12 | magnuse | paul123: export to a spreadsheat, edit and import back into koha |
| 20:12 | cait | oooh |
| 20:12 | right | |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | that. |
| 20:12 | cait | that's a lot better |
| 20:12 | i always forget we have that nice feature :) | |
| 20:14 | paul123 | so when I export the default framework to excel, what do I do to "hide" the un-relevant fields? |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | also, it occurs to me that you could start from the fast add framework |
| 20:15 | which is much smaller. | |
| 20:16 | cait | paul_p: there is a hidden column you set to a numeric value to hide |
| 20:17 | paul123 | ah i see it |
| 20:17 | now | |
| 20:17 | what value should I set to hide? | |
| 20:19 | francharb_afk | paul123, I would suggest 8 |
| 20:20 | it hides the tag on the opac and pro interface | |
| 20:20 | cait | hi francharb :) |
| 20:21 | francharb | hi cait! |
| 20:21 | wahanui | hi cait! are you safely back in germany now? |
| 20:21 | francharb | :) |
| 20:21 | cait | nice to see you! how is canada? |
| 20:21 | francharb | nice to see you too |
| 20:21 | Everything goes fine | |
| 20:21 | I just started a new job | |
| 20:22 | I work for InLibro now | |
| 20:22 | paul123 | ah great |
| 20:22 | thanks for the tip! | |
| 20:22 | :-) | |
| 20:22 | francharb | I will work with koha a little bit longer! :) |
| 20:22 | you´re welcome paul123 | |
| 20:23 | cait | francharb: awesome news! how is that? |
| 20:23 | oh | |
| 20:23 | i should start reading from the top :) | |
| 20:23 | glad to have you back1 | |
| 20:23 | ! | |
| 20:23 | rangi | francharb: wow how cool!! |
| 20:23 | francharb | thanks! |
| 20:23 | It´s pretty cool yep | |
| 20:24 | Today is my first day | |
| 20:24 | setting up my machine, etc | |
| 20:24 | getting used to qwerty keyboard as well | |
| 20:24 | hehe | |
| 20:24 | paul123 | I have one more question |
| 20:25 | rangi | francharb: i imagine that will take a while :) |
| 20:25 | paul123 | when I am preparing data with MARCEdit for import, should I tag the call number field with 952? |
| 20:25 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1513: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1513/ |
| 20:25 | * Galen Charlton: bug 8854: fix some invoice search filters | |
| 20:25 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11269: fix incorrect use of MARC::Field->subfield() | |
| 20:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8854 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , invoice filters don't all work |
| 20:25 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11269 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Latest MARC::Record makes visible some wrong usage of field->subfield in C4::Search | |
| 20:26 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1514 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1511 4 days 0 hr ago) |
| 20:27 | cait | francharb: workign from home or at inlibro? :) |
| 20:28 | oleonard | Got a (non-Koha) git problem. I'm trying create a new remote repo to push to, following these directions: http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git[…]ing-Up-the-Server |
| 20:29 | After the "push" step, I don't end up with anything on the remote server | |
| 20:32 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #124: SUCCESS in 2 hr 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/124/ |
| 20:32 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10430 - status filter not working in serial claims when translated | |
| 20:32 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10430: arrived and stopped status are not possible in serial claim | |
| 20:32 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10624: add 'status' option switch for the packages init script | |
| 20:32 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10689: add regression test | |
| 20:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10430 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , status filter not working in serial claims when translated |
| 20:32 | jenkins_koha | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10689: make public note appear in subscriptions search |
| 20:32 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10689: make subscription public note appear when making a new order from a subscription | |
| 20:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , koha-common.init should implement the 'status' option switch |
| 20:32 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10689 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , public note does not appear in subscriptions search | |
| 20:33 | rangi | oleonard: do you get any error message? |
| 20:35 | oleonard | No, the output looked like it was successful in fact |
| 20:35 | francharb | rangi, especially with a US keyboard with no accent... kind of hard to write french properly. :) |
| 20:35 | and cait, I work at inlibro office | |
| 20:36 | rangi | oleonard: hmm been a really long time since i ever did that, i usually create the remote end, then clone from that |
| 20:36 | cant think of anything :( | |
| 20:37 | cait | francharb: cool :) |
| 20:37 | oleonard | Thanks rangi I'll keep tinkering |
| 20:37 | magnuse | have fun #koha! |
| 20:38 | rangi | cya magnuse |
| 20:38 | * cait | gets out the cookie jar to celebrate francharb's new job |
| 20:39 | francharb | hehe thank you!!!!! |
| 20:40 | paul123 | sorry to keep bugging, but can someone help me with this question: do i have to tag my book records with the 952 field when parsing in MARCEdit? |
| 20:43 | cait | when you want to import items, then yes |
| 20:44 | paul123 | so I should tag the call number with the 952$o tag right? |
| 20:46 | mtompset | what does: $foo = $bar = '1'; mean? |
| 20:47 | rangi | same as |
| 20:47 | $bar = 1; | |
| 20:47 | $foo = $bar; | |
| 20:48 | cait | paul123: you will need: o, a and b = branchcode, y, 2 |
| 20:48 | at least i would recommend those | |
| 20:48 | and a and b are kind of mandatory to be set to a valid branchcode | |
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| 20:56 | paul123 | ok, thank you, cait! |
| 20:56 | have a good night all, thank you for your help | |
| 20:56 | mtompset | Have a great day (24 hour period), paul123. :) |
| 20:57 | And there is the headache. :) | |
| 20:57 | YAML::Syck | |
| 20:57 | Number::Format | |
| 20:58 | and a couple others. | |
| 20:58 | i'm surprised it isn't as bad as I remembered. I guess the MARC::blah stuff cpanm'd nicely. | |
| 21:09 | rambutan | I should do better at keeping my resume up to date. Somebody send me a few bullet points I can use. |
| 21:13 | bag | *makes great coffee |
| 21:13 | :P | |
| 21:14 | rambutan | hey, forgot that, it's going in |
| 21:14 | eythian | hi |
| 21:14 | wahanui | hola, eythian |
| 21:20 | cait | khall: around? |
| 21:21 | bag | cait I think he just stepped out |
| 21:25 | khall | what's up cait? |
| 21:25 | @later tell wizzyrea nope! | |
| 21:25 | huginn | khall: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:25 | * wizzyrea | forgot her question (lol) |
| 21:26 | cait | heh |
| 21:26 | hi khall :) | |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | hi khall :) |
| 21:26 | cait | was just looking for a one of my qaa... |
| 21:26 | to look at 10605 as i signed it off | |
| 21:26 | ... and can't qa now :) | |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | i found it - cool will file a bug for that |
| 21:27 | mtompset | http://youtu.be/H3r9bOkYW9s (history of english) |
| 21:27 | khall | wizzyrea: cool beans ; ) |
| 21:27 | bag | hey cait I have a moment I can look at it :) |
| 21:27 | cait | awesome thx bag :) |
| 21:27 | khall | @bag++ |
| 21:27 | huginn | khall: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 21:27 | cait | so now i can nag khall about his accounts rewrite :) have seen the constant updating, what kind of state is it in currently? :) |
| 21:27 | @quote random | |
| 21:27 | huginn | cait: Quote #125: "<oleonard> gmcharlt: Or I could fill the tub with milk and cereal and lock them in the bathroom." (added by gmcharlt at 01:14 PM, April 06, 2011) |
| 21:28 | cait | lol? |
| 21:28 | khall | cait: it's "so close" to being ready |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | (children, presumably) |
| 21:28 | oleonard | Why have I still not tried that?! |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 21:28 | cait | wizzyrea: my first thought was cats, but you are probably right :) |
| 21:28 | * oleonard | is off to do so |
| 21:28 | cait | hehe |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | gl |
| 21:28 | cait | bye oleonard :) |
| 21:28 | bag | later oleonard |
| 21:28 | cait | hah! was fast enough |
| 21:28 | bag | too slow :( |
| 21:28 | cait | next time :) |
| 21:29 | khall | I need to deal with the overdues with fines report, I won't remove it altogether, I'll just cut out the parts that are broken. |
| 21:29 | cait | khall: i looked at it today |
| 21:29 | we _are_ using it, but we could replace with a report | |
| 21:29 | also a lmit on the other report for people with fines would probably work | |
| 21:29 | khall | excellent! |
| 21:29 | ok, I can take that into account as well then! | |
| 21:30 | cait | i think there used to be a feature |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | khall - while you're here - we have libraries that use it too, but it's decently rare. |
| 21:30 | cait | where you could actually send people emails from that report |
| 21:30 | but it's been broken forever | |
| 21:30 | khall | cait: that explains a lot, thanks much for the info |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | theoretically you could do that from a regular report, with a mailto link. |
| 21:30 | cait | bug 4490 |
| 21:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4490 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, CLOSED INVALID, if xslt is on, koha warn every notice |
| 21:30 | cait | um |
| 21:30 | no, not that one | |
| 21:31 | bug 4990 | |
| 21:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4990 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , reintegrate overdues email in overdue list |
| 21:31 | cait | me and numbers... |
| 21:31 | khall | wow, it hasn't worked for a long time then |
| 21:31 | cait | wizzyrea: it would also create the mail text for you- but i think it wouldn't work with utf-8 - i have looked into doing that with mailto links |
| 21:31 | in reports | |
| 21:31 | you can actually set a subject and things like that | |
| 21:32 | khall | the last big rock for the accounts rewrite is of course, porting the old accounts data to the new system |
| 21:32 | cait | hm maybe it would and just ddn't get it working from hte reports page |
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| 21:32 | khall | cait: so you looked at it? what do you think so far? |
| 21:32 | cait | yeah, that's the problematic thing |
| 21:32 | ah not at yours - the mail functionality | |
| 21:32 | khall | ah, I see |
| 21:34 | cait | not yet :) |
| 21:35 | khall | no worries, but if you are bored, it is almost fully functional, except you won't see any existing fines because I haven't written that part of the db update yet |
| 21:36 | cait | hm i can't remember how bored feels, buti will make time - probably waiting for the update bits tho |
| 21:36 | khall | yeah, might as well wait for it to be totally done. I know what you mean ; ) |
| 21:37 | cait | ah now oleonard is gone.. |
| 21:46 | hm | |
| 21:46 | grammar question: This attribute will be only applied to the patron's category "Erwachsener" | |
| 21:46 | do we need the ' here? | |
| 21:47 | hm or patrons of patron category '' | |
| 21:47 | ? | |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | This attribute will only apply to the borrower category "category" |
| 21:52 | cait | it's from batch modification |
| 21:52 | so i think will only be applied would make sense | |
| 21:53 | it tells you that it will onl ychange patrons of that category, because the attribute has been limited to that category in configuration | |
| 21:53 | bug 11245 | |
| 21:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11245 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , typo in modborrowers.tt javascript string |
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| 22:12 | ebegin | @wunder montreal quebec |
| 22:12 | huginn | ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 0.0°C (5:00 PM EST on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:13 | rambutan | snow |
| 22:13 | cait | cooold |
| 22:13 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 22:13 | hi ebegin :) | |
| 22:13 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 3.0°C (11:00 PM CET on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:13 | rambutan | no snow |
| 22:13 | ebegin | Hey cait ! :) |
| 22:13 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
| 22:13 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on November 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:13 | ebegin | No snow as we type |
| 22:13 | wizzyrea | definitely no snow. |
| 22:15 | ebegin | wizzyrea, is there snow during NZ winters ? |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | not where we are, too warm. |
| 22:15 | dcook joined #koha | |
| 22:15 | ebegin | I wish I could say that winter are too warm over here :) |
| 22:16 | eythian | it snowed in Wellington a few years ago, but it's quite uncommon |
| 22:17 | ebegin | not snowing here is uncommon ;) |
| 22:17 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpGaIDm0azU |
| 22:18 | snow in wellington | |
| 22:18 | wizzyrea | note the barefooted people. |
| 22:18 | * ebegin | wish he could avoid snow.. have to move in NZ |
| 22:19 | eythian | it snowed most years where I grew up, so you'd have to pick your location :) |
| 22:20 | rangi | thats one of my fave little videos |
| 22:20 | rambutan | @wunder Rakiura National Park |
| 22:20 | huginn | rambutan: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 22:20 | ebegin | I could tolerate few hours of snow per year :) |
| 22:21 | cait | wizzyrea: and t-shirt...brrrr |
| 22:21 | rangi | this is my other favourite little snapshot of people |
| 22:21 | http://vimeo.com/31010288#at=0 | |
| 22:21 | wizzyrea | that would have been pretty chilly. |
| 22:21 | rambutan | Do people live on Auckland Island? |
| 22:21 | ebegin | at the moment, 0°C is not that cold. We will reach - 30°C in february |
| 22:22 | good night every one ! | |
| 22:22 | rangi | night ebegin |
| 22:22 | wizzyrea | gnite :) |
| 22:23 | eythian | rambutan: I don't think so, you might have conservation people there, but I don't think it counts as inhabited. |
| 22:23 | rambutan | but part of NZ, I assume? |
| 22:23 | eythian | it'd be cold and not very hospitable I imagine |
| 22:23 | yeah | |
| 22:23 | francharb | bye all |
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| 22:29 | mtompset | @later tell WaylonR I think I rebased it properly for you. Please check. |
| 22:29 | huginn | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:29 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 22:29 | Project Koha_master build #1514: FIXED in 2 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1514/ | |
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| 22:39 | cait | hjg |
| 22:41 | bag | hjg? |
| 22:41 | cait | screen froze... ignore last comment :) |
| 22:41 | bag | heh |
| 22:41 | too late sorry | |
| 22:44 | eythian | hjg eh |
| 22:44 | I'm not convinced. | |
| 22:49 | cait | i should stop qa'ing |
| 22:49 | 2:5 (passed/failed) now | |
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| 22:51 | cait | morning dcook |
| 22:52 | dcook | evening cait :) |
| 22:58 | bag | heya dcook - good day to you |
| 22:59 | cait that's cause I've been grabbing the small ones to free up your time :) | |
| 22:59 | heh | |
| 22:59 | cait | i still feel mean :) |
| 22:59 | nightall :) | |
| 22:59 | dcook | Howdy, bag. Good afternoon :) |
| 22:59 | Night, cait :) | |
| 22:59 | * dcook | thinks he has encompassed most times of day now.. |
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| 23:01 | bag | almost dcook almost |
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