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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:29 | dcook joined #koha | |
| 00:32 | * dcook | waves from windows 8...then cringes |
| 00:38 | wizzyrea | banish him! |
| 00:39 | http://replygif.net/thumbnail/796.gif | |
| 00:39 | mtj | dcook, i am officially 'tech support' for my dad's win8 laptop… i hate win8 soo much :/ |
| 00:40 | its his 1st computer too, the poor guy | |
| 00:41 | wizzyrea | http://replygif.net/796 |
| 00:41 | there we go | |
| 00:41 | mtj | his app-store thingy broke about 4 weeks… now its impossible to install any software on it :/ |
| 00:42 | wizzyrea | "daaad... just use linux!" |
| 00:43 | dcook | wizzyrea: <3 |
| 00:43 | For everything you've said since I arrived in channel | |
| 00:44 | eythian | yeah, I refuse to tech support anything that's not Linux these days. |
| 00:44 | I'm not particularly competent in windows any more anyway. | |
| 00:44 | I think I got off the train after windows 98. | |
| 00:44 | dcook | eythian: I don't know if anyone is competent in Windows... |
| 00:45 | * ibeardslee | managed to convert his mum's laptop to ubuntu |
| 00:45 | dcook | I'm divided on whether I should try to just run everything through a VM... |
| 00:46 | mtj | i might try pushing linux on dad, over xmas |
| 00:46 | jcamins | dcook: install Cygwin, a decent terminal emulator, and you'll hardly be able to tell that you're running everything in a Linux VM. |
| 00:50 | mtj | i've been telling dad that the 8.1 update might fix his borked laptop… only to hear its been causing so many BSODs that its been recalled :/ |
| 00:51 | jcamins | mtj: really? I thought they did the 8.1 update because no one could use Windows 8. |
| 00:52 | mtj | yeah, afaik thats correct ^^ |
| 00:54 | dcook | ibeardslee++ |
| 00:54 | jcamins | There's one positive thing I'll say about Windows 8. |
| 00:54 | It boots very fast. | |
| 00:54 | dcook | I keep thinking about getting a new laptop and then scrubbing everything on both and putting Linux on both.. |
| 00:54 | jcamins | Almost as fast as Linux. |
| 00:54 | * dcook | ponders that |
| 00:54 | dcook | Windows 8 boots fast on the laptop here |
| 00:54 | Takes forever when creating a new user | |
| 00:55 | wizzyrea | I have a ssd, it boots Mint wicked quick. |
| 00:56 | * jcamins | just read "eight reasons to hate Windows 8.1." |
| 00:56 | jcamins | I'm sure I wouldn't like it, but the reasons were silly. |
| 00:56 | "If you don't want the standard behavior you have to change a setting to get non-default behavior." | |
| 00:57 | Errr... should I be hating Linux? | |
| 00:57 | 'Cause I have to change lots of settings if I want non-standard behavior. | |
| 00:59 | eythian | why do you want non standard behaviour? Are you an anarchist? |
| 00:59 | jcamins | eythian: I must be! |
| 01:00 | Was the technology press better in the past, or am I just a more discerning reader? | |
| 01:05 | wizzyrea | democratisation of content creation increases the quantity of content, but not necessarily the quality. |
| 01:06 | Though certainly there are people who wouldn't publish at all, if they didn't have the web. | |
| 01:06 | The Oatmeal, for example. | |
| 01:10 | eythian | the tech press has gone a bit downhill I feel. More "top 10", less "here's a detailed review" |
| 01:11 | wizzyrea | top 10 is easy |
| 01:21 | dcook | All right. Time to power down and move this thing around... |
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| 01:48 | dac joined #koha | |
| 01:50 | dac | There, that should be better |
| 01:50 | Hmm | |
| 01:52 | wizzyrea | hrm. Fines paid at branch A for an item from branch B |
| 01:52 | is that even possible? | |
| 01:52 | I don't think we keep *where* a fine is paid... | |
| 01:53 | except in relation to the user that did it... | |
| 01:53 | that should read "report out" | |
| 01:55 | dcook | Hmm |
| 01:56 | I imagine most systems tend to share finances. | |
| 01:56 | Err, public library systems. | |
| 01:56 | * dcook | is fairly sure he was always able to pay his fines at any branch |
| 01:56 | dcook | Mind you, it only ever happened two or three times in my life, so... |
| 01:56 | wizzyrea | right, that's what they are doing, but they are separate entities financially |
| 01:57 | dcook | That seems odd(ish) to me |
| 01:57 | But I'm not an accountant. | |
| 01:57 | wizzyrea | it's so they can determine how much they owe each other |
| 01:57 | in reciprocal fines. | |
| 01:57 | dcook | Yeah, I was just pondering that one |
| 01:57 | I think that's the sort of thing people might track with their POS? | |
| 01:57 | Maybe not though | |
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| 01:58 | dcook | It's certainly interesting |
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| 01:58 | wizzyrea | I think I can get the branch of the processing user (which may... or may not!) correspond to the branch where the fine was paid... |
| 02:00 | dcook | Sounds like a tricky one |
| 02:00 | wizzyrea | yeah, it does doesn't it. |
| 02:01 | dcook | (Unrelated note: The one good thing about Windows 8 is that it's making me look through all the different options and preferences...so now I'm changing things that used to irritate me in past versions. Of course, the things that annoy me about Windows 8 don't appear to be changeable...) |
| 02:01 | * dcook | can sometimes state the obvious, eh? |
| 02:09 | dcook | Yay, got rid of some of the annoying things... |
| 02:09 | Although in retrospect, it's not just Windows 8. It's also Office 2013... | |
| 02:17 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #227 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 02:17 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch '3.14.x' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b5d37d72d8a0d81fe> / Update history.txt for Koha 3.14.0 release <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]da1ab7fdaf7643048> / release notes for Koha 3.14.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb47d65cd640e2312> / DBR |
| 02:21 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1516 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 02:34 | trea left #koha | |
| 02:41 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "What obvious thing am I missing?!" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2 |
| 02:45 | mtompset | DOH! Found it. |
| 03:12 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #227: UNSTABLE in 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/227/ |
| 03:12 | * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.14.00.000: Koha 3.14.0 | |
| 03:12 | * Galen Charlton: release notes for Koha 3.14.0 | |
| 03:12 | * Galen Charlton: Update history.txt for Koha 3.14.0 release | |
| 03:17 | dcook joined #koha | |
| 03:28 | dcook | http://www.modern.ie/en-us/f12 |
| 03:28 | So what you're saying is...when you follow web standards, you get better performance? | |
| 03:28 | * dcook | wonders if IE 11 does follow web standards... |
| 03:29 | dcook | Has an "install new versions" automatically checkbox which is nice.. |
| 03:37 | ie-- | |
| 03:37 | Still sucks | |
| 03:37 | Ugh, and has extra stuff regular browsers don't as well.. | |
| 03:41 | Hmm, apparently you can run "apps" and applications at the same time | |
| 03:41 | But "apps" don't appear on your desktop at all | |
| 03:41 | ... | |
| 03:41 | jcamins | dcook: well, IE is one of the best web browseres in the world. |
| 03:41 | *browsers | |
| 03:41 | dcook | I like it better as browseres :p |
| 03:42 | jcamins | There is no browser better for downloading Firefox than IE. |
| 03:42 | Or downloading Chrome. | |
| 03:42 | dcook | Totes |
| 03:42 | * dcook | is just thinking from a developer perspective |
| 03:42 | dcook | Someone is going to be using this |
| 03:42 | And it's awful | |
| 03:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #228 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #226 8 hr 56 min ago) |
| 03:54 | eythian | I do not thing German spoken word comedy is likely to get me through the afternoon... |
| 03:54 | *think | |
| 03:54 | * eythian | finds another album |
| 03:56 | dcook | Whoa, when you download Adobe Reader, they offer to package Chrome with it |
| 03:57 | * dcook | wonders if one day we'll be drinking Google bottled water... |
| 03:58 | eythian | wahanui: it's happening is <reply>http://i.imgur.com/YtKWRKk.gif |
| 03:58 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 04:23 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1516: SUCCESS in 2 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1516/ |
| 04:23 | * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.14.00.000: Koha 3.14.0 | |
| 04:23 | * Galen Charlton: release notes for Koha 3.14.0 | |
| 04:23 | * Galen Charlton: Update history.txt for Koha 3.14.0 release | |
| 04:24 | mtompset | YAY! |
| 04:25 | gmcharlt | mtompset: new puppy? |
| 04:25 | new kitten? | |
| 04:25 | ;) | |
| 04:25 | mtompset | successful build. |
| 04:26 | and I finally got some code working to parse a bunch of XML files to extract donor information. | |
| 04:26 | oh, and the release of 3.14 :) | |
| 04:27 | BobB | gmcharlt ++ |
| 04:28 | dcook | mtompset: If you want/have any tips, I'd be glad to know ;) |
| 04:28 | Looks like I need to re-run the HTML parsing I did for a friend the other day | |
| 04:28 | And now I just got a problem of an mp3 trying to become a pdf | |
| 04:28 | Nasty.. | |
| 04:28 | It should know its place | |
| 04:29 | mtompset | I finally find a sample piece of code that did the nice recursive thing on the XML tree, so I was able to use that to find the nodes I want, and then build up arrays of hashes. |
| 04:30 | dcook | O_o |
| 04:30 | If you're not using xpath, you probably want to be | |
| 04:31 | I wrote a recursive function that did something like you're describing but it didn't work anywhere near as good as using xpath | |
| 04:32 | mtompset | Yes, but the problem is I don't know what the structure is going to be. |
| 04:32 | xpath seems to require me knowing things. | |
| 04:32 | dcook | Mmm, a certain amount of things |
| 04:33 | Being XML, there should be a certain amount of structure as well, no? o_O | |
| 04:34 | mtompset | Yes, but not every donor node has the same information in it. |
| 04:35 | addr1 yes, but sometimes an addr2, sometimes and addr3. | |
| 04:35 | anyways... I have something functional, even if it is ugly. :) | |
| 04:35 | dcook | Not really sure what you mean, but I'm glad it worked out :) |
| 04:35 | Functional works :D | |
| 04:36 | gmcharlt: Do you ever have trouble with your cat waking you up in the middle of the night with its meowing? | |
| 04:36 | * dcook | figues the koha channel could double as cat support as well :p |
| 04:37 | gmcharlt | dcook: and pouncing on my toes, and standing on my chest, staring, and cuddling up right next to my ear and using her loudest purr... |
| 04:37 | dcook | How do you get to sleep? |
| 04:37 | * dcook | hasn't gotten that much sleep since getting back to Australia |
| 04:38 | dcook | I don't think the cats were pleased that I left |
| 04:38 | And now they're exacting brutal revenge | |
| 04:40 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 04:40 | Project master_maria build #228: FIXED in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/228/ | |
| 04:41 | gmcharlt | dcook: what is this concept you're referring to when you say "sleep"? |
| 04:43 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.14.0 is released! Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 4th December, 18:00 UTC | |
| 04:43 | gmcharlt | http://koha-community.org/koha-3-14-0-released/ |
| 04:44 | mtompset | That's a lot of .po files coming down the pipe. |
| 04:45 | dcook | Yay 3.14.0! |
| 04:45 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 04:45 | Evidently, it's a concept with which you're not very familiar ;) | |
| 04:45 | I usually get quite a bit of it, but those cats.. | |
| 04:45 | gmcharlt | how old are they? |
| 04:46 | dcook | Mmm, about 7 iirc |
| 04:46 | But the noisiest one acts even older | |
| 04:46 | He's a grump | |
| 04:46 | He's the ginger I post photos of all the time | |
| 04:51 | gmcharlt | ours are about 13 |
| 04:53 | dcook | How many do you have? I can only recall seeing the one |
| 04:54 | eythian | curious, in my email client font, π looks very much like Π |
| 04:54 | just smaller | |
| 04:54 | without the wavy top I'm used to | |
| 04:55 | gmcharlt | eythian: yeah, π doesn't look great in a sans serif font, IMO |
| 04:55 | dcook: 3 | |
| 04:56 | rangi | gmcharlt++ |
| 04:57 | gmcharlt | rangi++ # showing evidence of having actually looked at the release blog post ;) |
| 04:57 | rangi | :) |
| 05:02 | dcook | Touché, gmcharlt |
| 05:02 | * dcook | goes off to read it |
| 05:03 | dcook | hehe |
| 05:03 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 05:04 | mtompset | I guess tomorrow/today is roll a distribution day. :) |
| 05:05 | Only 9?! I guess I should try to improve on that number. :P | |
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| 05:09 | dcook | This might sound weird, but I'm really pleased about the changing of the "Dropbox" label |
| 05:10 | When I first started using Koha, I thought it referred to the actual "Dropbox" product | |
| 05:10 | * dcook | then went on to wonder why on Earth you'd want to integrate Koha and Dropbox |
| 05:10 | dcook | Particularly in circulation :p |
| 05:11 | Looks like a hell of a release | |
| 05:11 | * dcook | will need to set up a new VM on this computer...looks like it'll be 3.14 :) |
| 05:20 | mtompset_ joined #koha | |
| 05:21 | mtompset | Well, that blip seems like a good note to leave one. |
| 05:21 | ^one^on^ | |
| 05:21 | Have a great day, #koha. | |
| 05:21 | So long and thanks for the fish, gmcharlt. :) | |
| 05:21 | (the release of 3.14) | |
| 05:34 | dpk1 | Has anyone here played around with the new bootstrap theme and especially conversion from prog to bootstrap? |
| 05:36 | dcook | Not yet. Probably not for a while in my case :/ |
| 05:56 | dpk1 | I tried just switching over the theme and it got into some wierd loop where it kept putting a "logged out" window despite me doing nothing. I think it might be related to the fact that we don't normally us logins on the OPAC |
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| 06:08 | * dcook | despises the acquisitions module... |
| 06:10 | dcook | What the ever living... |
| 06:22 | saghsa;dghasg | |
| 06:23 | When using AnonymousSuggestions in 3.8.0, all purchase suggestions are anonymous, even when logged on... | |
| 06:23 | At least on ours... | |
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| 06:27 | dcook | Man 3.8 is so out of date.. |
| 06:28 | Gotta love that old bug that wipes out your system preferences when searching... | |
| 06:28 | Or rather, picks out the string.. | |
| 06:29 | * cait | waves |
| 06:29 | cait | time to go home dcook :) |
| 06:29 | dcook | I just ruined the userjs by doing a search then saving... |
| 06:30 | I'm sure we have a backup but I'm also sure I don't have access to it | |
| 06:30 | Meeting up with folk at 8 as well and have some work to do for a friend before then, so 2.5 hours.. | |
| 06:30 | cait | go look in your action_logs |
| 06:31 | if you are lucky you store syspref changes there :) | |
| 06:31 | ithas saved me a few itimes | |
| 06:33 | dcook | I was just thinking action logs right before I clicked on this icon |
| 06:33 | Great idea, cait :) | |
| 06:34 | You are a goddess, cait | |
| 06:34 | cait | lol |
| 06:35 | dcook | If you didn't have the same (nick)name as my sister, I would name my first born after you |
| 06:35 | cait | nope, i just make mistakes myself |
| 06:35 | you still can name it after your sister and ge 2 for one | |
| 06:35 | just don't tell her :P | |
| 06:36 | dcook | lol |
| 06:36 | :P | |
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| 06:50 | cait | oh |
| 06:50 | stupid timezones - i missed the pie party?? | |
| 06:50 | dcook | It wasn't much of a party :p |
| 06:51 | cait | then you all did it wrong and i am even more disappointed :) |
| 06:55 | dcook | hehe |
| 06:56 | It looks like a very good release based on the notes | |
| 07:01 | cait | yeah we have been busy |
| 07:01 | i only realize how busy when i see the release notes | |
| 07:01 | most of the time during the release i feel too slow :) | |
| 07:11 | wizzyrea | Pi! |
| 07:11 | Pi! | |
| 07:11 | confetti! | |
| 07:11 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 07:11 | wizzyrea | more confetti! |
| 07:11 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' |
| 07:11 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt++ |
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| 07:39 | * Oak | waves |
| 07:39 | Oak | @seen Brooke |
| 07:39 | huginn | Oak: Brooke was last seen in #koha 9 weeks, 1 day, 10 hours, 32 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <Brooke> hey cait :D |
| 07:39 | magnuse | Pi! gmcharlt++ |
| 07:39 | cait | hi Oak :) |
| 07:39 | hi magnuse :) | |
| 07:39 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 07:39 | Oak | hello Katrin! |
| 07:39 | magnuse | |
| 07:40 | magnuse | Oak: |
| 07:40 | Oak | gmcharlt++ |
| 07:40 | magnuse | gah, stupid tab complete ;-) |
| 07:40 | Oak | :) |
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| 07:40 | cait | have to go to work :) bbiab |
| 07:40 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 07:40 | Oak | later cait |
| 07:41 | hello marcelr | |
| 07:41 | cait | good morning marcelr :) |
| 07:41 | marcelr | hi Oak cait |
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| 07:41 | magnuse | hiya marcelr |
| 07:41 | marcelr | hi magnuse |
| 07:46 | * magnuse | chastises himself for signing off one less patch than he contributed to Pi |
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| 07:54 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:54 | Oak | Bonjour reiveune ! |
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| 08:10 | * cait | waves |
| 08:12 | wizzyrea | mornin cait |
| 08:12 | cait | hi wizzyrea |
| 08:12 | pi1 | |
| 08:13 | pi! | |
| 08:17 | marcelr | cait: could you please check my patch on the release team changes? |
| 08:17 | bug 7143 | |
| 08:17 | wahanui | i heard bug 7143 was ready for an easy signoff |
| 08:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
| 08:17 | marcelr | right wahanui |
| 08:17 | cait | marcelr: yes, but not before tonight, someone might beat me to it |
| 08:18 | marcelr | ok thanks |
| 08:18 | cait | I've sent myself a reminder email - thx for taking care of this |
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| 08:31 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:34 | wizzyrea | pi! pi! pi! |
| 08:34 | strawberry! Rhubarb! Boysenberry! Coconut cream! | |
| 08:34 | cait | yum! |
| 08:34 | wizzyrea | steak and cheese! |
| 08:34 | cait | huh? |
| 08:34 | wizzyrea | bacon and blue cheese! |
| 08:34 | cait | oh savoury, good idea :) |
| 08:34 | wizzyrea | pi! |
| 08:35 | vegetarian pi! | |
| 08:37 | cait | you are excited, hm? :) |
| 08:38 | rangi | evening |
| 08:38 | cait | mushroom pi! |
| 08:38 | hi rangi | |
| 08:39 | magnuse | pi! pi! |
| 08:42 | wizzyrea | I am as excited as the moment dictates ;) |
| 08:42 | WHICH IS A LOT. | |
| 08:42 | cait | heh :) |
| 08:42 | wizzyrea | confetti! |
| 08:42 | wahanui | confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
| 08:42 | cait | :) |
| 08:42 | wizzyrea | more confetti! |
| 08:42 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' |
| 08:42 | cait | lol |
| 08:42 | magnuse | much more confetti! |
| 08:43 | aww... | |
| 08:47 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 08:47 | http://stream1.gifsoup.com/vie[…]95/confetti-o.gif | |
| 08:57 | cait | hm we should have a new role |
| 08:57 | have someoen dedicated to send the release notes around and do some advertising :) | |
| 08:58 | Koha pi? | |
| 08:58 | wahanui | Koha pi is coming. |
| 08:58 | cait | forget koha pie |
| 08:58 | forget kohe pi | |
| 08:58 | gr | |
| 08:58 | forget koha pi | |
| 08:58 | wahanui | cait: I forgot koha pi |
| 08:58 | cait | Koha Pi is http://koha-community.org/koha-3-14-0-released/ |
| 08:58 | koha pi? | |
| 08:58 | wahanui | koha pi is http://koha-community.org/koha-3-14-0-released/ |
| 08:58 | cait | wizzyrea: as you are here |
| 08:58 | is the responsive opac up to date? | |
| 08:58 | responsive? | |
| 08:58 | wahanui | responsive is looking real nice |
| 08:58 | cait | bootstrap? |
| 08:58 | wahanui | bootstrap is running in a demo at http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz. It tracks, reasonably closely, the current master version of Koha. |
| 08:59 | cait | compiling an email to the coworkers about pi :) |
| 09:15 | wizzyrea | it should be |
| 09:16 | it's reasonably close to master | |
| 09:16 | our demo at demo.mykoha.co.nz will go up to 3.14 when the packages are ready | |
| 09:18 | but it probably won't ahve the responsive theme on. | |
| 09:18 | but responsive will keep the default :) | |
| 09:18 | it's the better of the two anyway - better data. | |
| 09:18 | (for the moment) | |
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| 09:50 | wizzyrea | http://25.media.tumblr.com/ac4[…]1snj781o1_250.gif |
| 09:51 | http://media.tumblr.com/db9674[…]t8aqiJ1qz4rgp.gif | |
| 10:06 | right. Enjoy your Pi, I will catch you all in about 8 hours. :) | |
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| 12:32 | tcohen | gmcharlt++ # you rock |
| 12:36 | morning #koha | |
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| 12:52 | marcelr | koha 3,14159 26535 89793 23846 26433 83279 50288 41971 69399 37510 ! |
| 12:55 | tcohen | :-) |
| 12:56 | cait | ? |
| 12:56 | hi tcohen :) | |
| 12:56 | tcohen | hicait |
| 12:57 | * tcohen | is trying to apply 10684 on 3.12.x |
| 13:00 | tcohen | confetti! |
| 13:00 | wahanui | confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
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| 13:41 | khall | mornin cait, #koha! |
| 13:43 | tcohen | hi khall! |
| 13:51 | cait | hi khall :) |
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| 15:00 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 15:07 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 15:15 | i think i am one step closer with the quote of the day problem | |
| 15:15 | oleonard | Oh yeah? What have you found? |
| 15:16 | cait | it seems to not like when you are missing ids |
| 15:16 | i did some renumbering and suddenly the quote showed up | |
| 15:16 | but still doing tests | |
| 15:17 | ok, i have got 2 quotes - both have no date yet, ids are 3 and 4 | |
| 15:17 | no quote is shown | |
| 15:17 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #229 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED) |
| 15:17 | cait | id 1 and 4 - still no quote |
| 15:17 | id's are 1 and 2 - quote shows up | |
| 15:18 | ids | |
| 15:19 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1517 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 15:20 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11207: fix issue where SMS number couldn't be cleared when editing patron <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]16f01e1f67fef955e> / DBRev 3.15.00.000: on to what comes after Pi <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]291a4c08599d99305> |
| 15:25 | cait | *sigh* i am not sure how this works. |
| 15:26 | ugh | |
| 15:26 | i think i see it | |
| 15:26 | it does a count | |
| 15:26 | on the entries in the table | |
| 15:27 | and then picks a quote in the range of 1-count | |
| 15:27 | when you have deleted a lot of the older entries, it will never find one | |
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| 15:30 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10809: use branches template plugin in serials search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]04b6f1aa136ce7cc2> |
| 15:37 | rambutan | gmcharlt++ |
| 15:45 | cait | bug 11279 |
| 15:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11279 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Quote of the day feature won't pick a quote |
| 15:45 | cait | now i feel better |
| 15:45 | i had bugs I can't explain | |
| 15:45 | hate even :) | |
| 15:46 | ashimema | well found cait |
| 15:49 | gmcharlt | a not entirely satisfying way of addressing it: select * from quotes order by rand() limit 1; |
| 15:49 | not portable, though | |
| 15:49 | jcamins | Randomly generated offset? |
| 15:49 | cait | mysqlism? |
| 15:49 | is there a function to do a rand on a list of numbers? | |
| 15:49 | gmcharlt | mysql has rand(), pg ha random() |
| 15:50 | cait | we could just not do a count, but have the ids |
| 15:50 | hm | |
| 15:50 | not sure i can explain myself. | |
| 15:51 | gmcharlt | one could fetch the entire list of quotes, then writer Perl to select a random ne |
| 15:51 | *one | |
| 15:51 | cait | it might be not too bad on that table, it's not supposed to get really huge. but you never knwo what libraries will do :) |
| 15:51 | gmcharlt | thousands of quotes == maybe write a cronjob to select the daily one |
| 15:52 | cait | gmcharlt: could you take a look at the removing of the doubled template plugins sometime? |
| 15:52 | jcamins | gmcharlt: you don't have to fetch the entire table. |
| 15:52 | cait | the one we use for branches now has a diacritics problem and the patch would solve it I think |
| 15:52 | gmcharlt | cait: ok |
| 15:52 | jcamins | SELECT * FROM quotes ORDER BY id LIMIT $offset, 1; |
| 15:53 | gmcharlt | jcamins: yeah, that would work |
| 15:54 | cait | jcamins: what is offset in that case? |
| 15:54 | jcamins | cait: randomly generated. |
| 15:54 | cait | from what? |
| 15:54 | jcamins | The count. |
| 15:54 | cait | ah |
| 15:55 | jcamins | Get a count of records in the table that haven't been used today, and then choose an offset between 0 and COUNT-1. |
| 15:55 | cait | hmm and who sends a patch now? ;) |
| 15:56 | jcamins | Not me. |
| 15:56 | cait | do you have your finger on your nose right now? :) |
| 15:56 | jcamins | lol |
| 15:56 | Yes. | |
| 15:56 | :P | |
| 15:56 | cait | I am not sure when iw ill get to it, but hopefully sometime soon |
| 16:11 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #229: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/229/ |
| 16:11 | * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.15.00.000: on to what comes after Pi | |
| 16:11 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11207: fix issue where SMS number couldn't be cleared when editing patron | |
| 16:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11207 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Impossibility to remove a sms number |
| 16:12 | cait | bye all |
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| 16:12 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #230 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:21 | * oleonard | is just a little disappointed that gmcharlt didn't wait until 3:14PM today for the release... |
| 16:22 | nengard | hehe |
| 16:23 | rambutan | :) |
| 16:23 | gmcharlt | oleonard: which time zone? ;) |
| 16:23 | oleonard | Yours of course :P |
| 16:24 | * gmcharlt | doesn't think he could have held out that long against the tide of people asking "is it out yet?" |
| 16:24 | gmcharlt | @arewethereyet |
| 16:24 | huginn | gmcharlt: YES! |
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| 17:05 | Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10809: use branches template plugin in serials search | |
| 17:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10809 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , use template branches plugin in serials search |
| 17:13 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #126: FAILURE in 3 hr 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/126/ |
| 17:13 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10684: add regression test | |
| 17:13 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10684: make sure that Koha search does not dies on undecodable records | |
| 17:13 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10684: (follow-up) adjust how undecodable records are logged | |
| 17:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10684 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Koha search dies on undecodable records |
| 17:14 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #127 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #125 1 day 1 hr ago) |
| 17:19 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 17:22 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1517: SUCCESS in 2 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1517/ |
| 17:22 | * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.15.00.000: on to what comes after Pi | |
| 17:22 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11207: fix issue where SMS number couldn't be cleared when editing patron | |
| 17:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11207 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Impossibility to remove a sms number |
| 17:23 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1518 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 17:32 | * cait | waves |
| 17:35 | rambutan | waves |
| 17:37 | tcohen | o/ |
| 17:37 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
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| 17:42 | cait | chris_n`: around? :) |
| 17:46 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11245: fix typo in modborrowers.tt javascript string <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]220504c633000db7f> |
| 17:47 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #231 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 17:56 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10996: Allow numeric subfields to be stripped on export <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]14f8d811cc61834ff> |
| 17:56 | tcohen | gmcharlt: around? |
| 17:57 | gmcharlt | tcohen: yep |
| 17:57 | tcohen | i wrote you an chris, and noticed you launched a new build for master |
| 17:57 | would you try deleting the cover_db contents before launching the build? | |
| 18:00 | and congrats for the pi release, is a great milestone in terms of stability and evolution of the project | |
| 18:01 | gmcharlt | tcohen: I will look into it -- I want to check to see if keeping the cover_db around is useful for tracking changes in coverage |
| 18:01 | and secondarily, figure out if we care | |
| 18:02 | and thanks! | |
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| 18:08 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #128 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: FIXED) |
| 18:11 | pug | Hi guys -- I was looking for a command line tool (not the GUI based marc edit)- to convert csv to any format usable by bulkmarcimport.pl . Any suggestions for such a tool? |
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| 18:12 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 18:24 | tcohen | chris_n`: around? |
| 18:31 | chris_n | tcohen: here |
| 18:32 | rangi | gmcharlt: its not needed for tracking coverage change, cos im logging that in jenkins |
| 18:32 | tcohen | chris_n: C4/Labels/Label.pm |
| 18:33 | gmcharlt | rangi: then you see no bar to running with tcohen's suggestion? |
| 18:33 | tcohen | C4::Labels::Label->_guide_box |
| 18:33 | rangi | nope ive made that change now |
| 18:33 | tcohen | rangi++ |
| 18:34 | chris_n: what's the expected behaviour when no parameters are passed? | |
| 18:34 | mtompset | tcohen++ # for a good suggestion. Ummm what was it? ;) |
| 18:34 | rangi | however there is a bigger issue, it doesnt seem to be using a 3.12 db, or running 3.12.x code |
| 18:34 | * chris_n | looks |
| 18:34 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #128: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/128/ |
| 18:34 | rangi | 18:11:38 OPAC: Database update needed, redirecting to maintenance. Database is 3.1300015 and Koha is 3.1300042 at /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/Koha_3.12.x/C4/Auth.pm line 578. |
| 18:35 | which is weird | |
| 18:35 | 18:50:10 Commencing build of Revision 29825475bfb38a77738ffd1789cb2ba88f3a62ad (origin/3.12.x) | |
| 18:35 | 18:50:10 Checking out Revision 29825475bfb38a77738ffd1789cb2ba88f3a62ad (origin/3.12.x) | |
| 18:35 | tcohen | those hashes are right |
| 18:36 | rangi | 19:07:25 OPAC: Database update needed, redirecting to maintenance. Database is 3.1300015 and Koha is 3.1300042 at /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/Koha_3.12.x/C4/Auth.pm line 578. |
| 18:36 | something weird is happening | |
| 18:37 | tcohen | the conf files |
| 18:37 | point to master | |
| 18:37 | rangi | hmm i thought you changed that? |
| 18:37 | tcohen | opacdir, opachtdos |
| 18:38 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #231: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/231/ |
| 18:38 | Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11245: fix typo in modborrowers.tt javascript string | |
| 18:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11245 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , typo in modborrowers.tt javascript string |
| 18:38 | chris_n | tcohen: if no parameters are passed in it should return nothing (which clearly it does not do atm) |
| 18:38 | rangi | ah that would do it |
| 18:38 | tcohen | ok, i'll fix it rangi |
| 18:38 | rangi | thanks |
| 18:38 | chris_n | that minimizes collateral damage at least |
| 18:38 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #232 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 18:38 | chris_n | really there should be some feedback to the user |
| 18:39 | * cait | waves |
| 18:39 | tcohen | i'll take a look chris_n |
| 18:40 | rangi: will it delete the cover_db files? | |
| 18:40 | chris_n | tcohen: the easiest fix would be to drop in a check and simply return if no params are sent along |
| 18:40 | * chris_n | has found guide boxes to be only minimally useful in practice |
| 18:41 | rangi | it should now yep |
| 18:41 | * tcohen | is trying |
| 18:41 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #129 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 18:42 | rangi | cool |
| 18:42 | chris_n | heya rangi |
| 18:45 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "rangi: is it a Java thing (tm)+?" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/3 |
| 18:45 | rangi | most likely |
| 18:54 | gmcharlt | rangi++ |
| 18:55 | cait | rangi++ and gmcharlt++ |
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| 19:07 | cait | brb |
| 19:07 | tcohen | byeeee |
| 19:28 | cait | back |
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| 19:30 | Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10809: use branches template plugin in serials search | |
| 19:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10809 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , use template branches plugin in serials search |
| 19:30 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #232: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/232/ |
| 19:30 | Colin Campbell: Bug 10996: Allow numeric subfields to be stripped on export | |
| 19:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10996 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Cannot exclude numeric subfields on export |
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| 19:45 | mtompset | Well, that's a weird name change. |
| 19:45 | Allow to be stripped -> Cannot exclude?! | |
| 19:58 | cait | ? |
| 20:00 | oleonard | Bug 10996? |
| 20:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10996 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Cannot exclude numeric subfields on export |
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| 20:27 | bag | afternoon all :) |
| 20:27 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 20:28 | cait | hi bag :) |
| 20:28 | rambutan | bag! |
| 20:28 | mtompset | Greetings, bag rambutan |
| 20:28 | rambutan | mtompset! |
| 20:28 | wahanui | mtompset is, like, catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry |
| 20:28 | bag | :) |
| 20:29 | mtompset | Yes, that I am. Finally wrote some XML extracting code to tell me things from these confounded monthly reports. :) |
| 20:29 | And yes, cait, my Allow to Cannot comment was about the bug oleonard pointed at. | |
| 20:30 | visible in the jenkins build. | |
| 20:30 | rangi | its not that confusing mtompset |
| 20:30 | cait | mtompset: sorry, not sure i remember |
| 20:30 | rangi | you just had it round the wrong way |
| 20:30 | the bug is Cannot | |
| 20:30 | the patch Allows it | |
| 20:30 | ie fixing the cannot | |
| 20:31 | mtompset | No, it isn't that confusing. Just weird having two different names pop up beside each other. Requires that extra thinking cycle. |
| 20:32 | rangi | hmm i dont understand that hourly loans question at all |
| 20:32 | * rangi | passes on that one |
| 20:33 | cait | i am not sure i want to try and answer... |
| 20:33 | oleonard | Doesn't know that loan policy is tied to item type, not authorised values? |
| 20:33 | cait | would be my guess too |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | well you can't do loan policy according to location |
| 20:34 | so he has got it the wrong way around. | |
| 20:34 | he needs to have two item types, and one location | |
| 20:34 | cait | or no location at all |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | or just two item types |
| 20:34 | cait | yeah :) |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | hehe yea :) |
| 20:35 | * oleonard | will answer |
| 20:35 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 20:35 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #396 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | oleonard++ - for leaping on that hand grenade |
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| 20:36 | * Nicole C. Engard: add AcqItemSetSubfieldsWhenReceived | |
| 20:36 | * Nicole C. Engard: add AutoRemoveOverduesRestrictions | |
| 20:36 | * Nicole C. Engard: update over triggers with AutoRemoveOverduesRestrictions | |
| 20:36 | cait | does someone know how i can stop my git speaking german? |
| 20:36 | can you tell it to stop that? | |
| 20:37 | * cait | thinks it's like watching big bang theory with german synchronisation |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | Dear Katrin's git: stop speaking german! Love, me |
| 20:37 | cait | lol |
| 20:37 | mtompset | wizzyrea++ # love the humour. :) |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | actually, when you were testing the locale thing, did you set it to de-DE |
| 20:37 | maybe git is picking up on it. | |
| 20:37 | cait | i always had it to de-DE |
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| 20:38 | cait | but someone mut have translated it... it started when i updated my ubuntu |
| 20:38 | jcamins | cait: Achtung! Deutsch zu sprechen ist nicht erlaubt! |
| 20:38 | cait | lol |
| 20:38 | mtompset | Did your locale change? |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | perhaps you can tell git to use a specific locale instead of the system one |
| 20:38 | * wizzyrea | really has no idea |
| 20:38 | cait | maybe i will just switch the system one... in english things often make more sense |
| 20:38 | especially when i am trying to google an error | |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]-interface-of-git |
| 20:39 | jcamins | You have to say that very firmly, though, or git will just say "Nein! Ich werde sprechen Deutsch, wenn ich will!" |
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| 20:40 | rangi | chrispin is usually pretty good |
| 20:41 | * oleonard | has had a pessimism-inducing week |
| 20:41 | wizzyrea | frownies. |
| 20:42 | mtompset | Sorry to hear that, oleonard. :( |
| 20:42 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
| 20:42 | no longer KONFLIKT but CONFLICT | |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 20:42 | * mtompset | cheers. |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | stackoverflow++ |
| 20:43 | 549 I can get a ferry leaving 26dec and returning 30dec | |
| 20:43 | (for all of us) | |
| 20:44 | cait | wrong window? :) |
| 20:44 | rangi | heh |
| 20:44 | cait | although i like the ferry idea :) |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 20:45 | hehe yes, wrong window | |
| 20:45 | at least it wasn't something actually embarrassing. | |
| 20:47 | oleonard | At least you didn't mention how many murder victims/pounds of cocaine/counterfeit beanie babies you were ferrying |
| 20:48 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: I misread that rather badly |
| 20:48 | I had visions of a ferry carting MARC tags around | |
| 20:48 | cait | lol |
| 20:48 | oleonard | This new RDA stuff really is confusing! |
| 20:49 | rangi | this is pretty sweet |
| 20:49 | http://www.wetanz.com/proceeds[…]to-local-charity/ | |
| 20:50 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #397 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 20:50 | * Nicole C. Engard: add StaffDetailItemSelection | |
| 20:50 | * Nicole C. Engard: add optional way to edit items with checkboxes | |
| 20:50 | * Nicole C. Engard: add optional way to delete items with checkboxes | |
| 20:50 | * Nicole C. Engard: fix styling on edit items | |
| 20:50 | * Nicole C. Engard: add note about batch item modification to item edits | |
| 20:50 | * Nicole C. Engard: add WhenLostChargeReplacementFee | |
| 20:50 | rangi | that marine education center is just down the road from us, we go there lots |
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| 20:55 | mtompset | gmcharlt++ # I saw MARC codes too. :) |
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| 21:11 | trea | hey has anyone ever seen this error running fines.pl? |
| 21:11 | pastebot | "trea" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "fines.pl cron error" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/4 |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea | looks like you have an invalid date in your data. |
| 21:12 | (to me) | |
| 21:13 | 0000-00-00 23:59:00 | |
| 21:14 | rangi | yep |
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| 21:15 | wizzyrea | choosing issue rule at circ time - interesting idea. |
| 21:15 | trea | so, since it's fines.pl, I should be checking dates in the items table perhaps? |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | issues probably |
| 21:15 | trea | issues, k. i'll start there. |
| 21:15 | rangi | the dates in the items table are really only used for display |
| 21:16 | and searching | |
| 21:16 | wahanui | i heard searching was not working |
| 21:16 | trea | ah, k. thanks. |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 21:16 | rangi++ | |
| 21:17 | eythian | oh great, now you've gone and made wizzyrea and rangi slower and more complicated. |
| 21:19 | cait | ? |
| 21:19 | wizzyrea: i have seen ILS where you coudl do htat | |
| 21:20 | rangi | thats a 123 if ever i saw it |
| 21:20 | just set the loan to 2 weeks | |
| 21:20 | cait | wizzyrea: like select a special, short or unlimited loan on circ |
| 21:20 | rangi | or whatever |
| 21:20 | then use the picker to override it | |
| 21:20 | or better | |
| 21:20 | DONT BE SO NEEDLESSLY COMPLEX | |
| 21:20 | cait | hehe |
| 21:20 | rangi | ffs people |
| 21:20 | cait | i just say i have seen that |
| 21:20 | :) | |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | yea definitely - I forgot about the picker |
| 21:21 | Just use the damn picker to set the due date. :) | |
| 21:21 | cait | like for teachers - they got 10 books as unlimited loans in that library |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | I will amend my reply |
| 21:21 | rangi | do we want people to use the library or not |
| 21:21 | cait | so you could then say - ok, this one goes out unlimited/forever |
| 21:21 | * cait | hides |
| 21:21 | jcamins | rangi: not. Of course. Right? |
| 21:21 | eythian | cait: well, there was C, then there was C++ |
| 21:21 | cait | i see |
| 21:22 | rangi | jcamins: that seems to be the prevailing view |
| 21:22 | libraries are for librarians | |
| 21:23 | at least if you did a case study of what libraries fund in koha | |
| 21:23 | thats the conclusion you would draw | |
| 21:23 | </pet peeve> | |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | ^^ what he said. |
| 21:25 | also, i didn't say it was a *good* idea. Just that it was interesting. :P | |
| 21:25 | interesting | |
| 21:25 | wahanui | i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | ^ |
| 21:26 | jcamins | eythian: then there was D, which no one has ever heard of anyone using. |
| 21:28 | talljoy | librarians seem to be on a mission to make themselves obsolete sometimes. |
| 21:28 | and not in a good way | |
| 21:28 | rangi | talljoy: yeah, its kinda odd |
| 21:28 | of course im totally generalising here | |
| 21:29 | there are plenty of libraries that are doing cool things | |
| 21:29 | talljoy | of course. and i'm a librarian and i don't intend that. |
| 21:29 | but we do encounter some odd ducks out there from time to time. | |
| 21:29 | rangi | yup |
| 21:30 | talljoy | i've been trying to track down khall with a question about some dev he's installed for me. |
| 21:30 | but khall is mia and i'm trying to ping him in every medium i can | |
| 21:30 | rangi | heh |
| 21:30 | jcamins | talljoy: want me to call him for you? YO! KHALL! talljoy wants to talk with you. |
| 21:30 | rangi | speaking of libraries doing cool things |
| 21:30 | JesseM | Who is ready for a little Thanksgiving Turkey? http://www.steak-enthusiast.co[…]0_639574201_n.jpg |
| 21:30 | talljoy | but would any of y'all know why the web installer keeps wanting run when i've already run the updatedatase? |
| 21:31 | what is triggering that installer? | |
| 21:31 | thanks jcamins! | |
| 21:31 | rangi | Te Takere won the supreme award at the Association of Local Goverment Information Management awards earlier this week |
| 21:31 | cait | woohoo |
| 21:31 | jcamins | talljoy: probably a merge error that put an actual version number in the new development's upgrade stanza. |
| 21:31 | cait | te_takere++ |
| 21:31 | * jcamins | heads home. |
| 21:31 | talljoy | te_takere++ |
| 21:31 | does he get a crown? | |
| 21:32 | cuz that sounds like the kind of thing that one earns a crown and scepter for. "supreme award" | |
| 21:32 | rangi | :) |
| 21:33 | cait | a higher number in kohaversion.pl than the hights in updatedatabase would do it too i think |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | Te Takere = HLT |
| 21:33 | rangi | http://www.tetakere.org.nz/ |
| 21:33 | talljoy | okay thanks cait and jcamins! |
| 21:35 | cait | hm ok |
| 21:35 | question about the new debarred feature | |
| 21:35 | houldn't i be able to add more than one restriction? | |
| 21:36 | talljoy | doubly debarred? |
| 21:37 | cait | not sure, but the interface seemed to indicate i could |
| 21:37 | rangi | you are really really debarred |
| 21:37 | cait | lol |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | I mean it! |
| 21:37 | rangi | yeah doesnt make a lot of sense |
| 21:37 | cait | i thought for different reasons with different dates |
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| 21:37 | cait | and just saying the interface made me think it |
| 21:38 | rangi | i dedicate this one to te takere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vimZj8HW0Kg |
| 21:38 | It has worked! How sweet Koha can be. This problem has been troubling | |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 21:38 | rangi | me for three years now. You have just solved my problem. I now can go |
| 21:38 | to bed with a smile on my face. Its 30 minutes before mid night here | |
| 21:38 | in Zambia. Cheers and good night | |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | ^ makes the rest of it ok :) |
| 21:39 | cait | so... if it doesn't domultiple |
| 21:39 | what is the new borrower_debarments table for? | |
| 21:39 | rangi | cait: no idea |
| 21:40 | cait | KHALL! :) |
| 21:40 | might work better in nice: khall? :) | |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | suggestion about the issue date picker |
| 21:40 | rangi | @seen khall |
| 21:40 | huginn | rangi: khall was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 59 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <khall> mornin cait, #koha! |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | for hourly loans |
| 21:41 | it really ought to be something like "in x hours" in addition to being able to specify a specific time. | |
| 21:41 | rangi | that would be cool |
| 21:42 | cait | wizzyrea: agreed |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | because now you have to look at the clock, and figure out what time it will be due yourself |
| 21:42 | a little awkward. | |
| 21:42 | cait | ok, i think mulitple should work |
| 21:42 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2720 | |
| 21:42 | huginn | 04Bug 2720: enhancement, P3, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Overdues which debar automatically should undebar automatically when returned |
| 21:44 | cait | yeah this is seriously broken:( |
| 21:45 | ohok, i managed | |
| 21:45 | maybe it's only broken from that page | |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | oh man that's one that I have my name on from back in the day. Wowie. |
| 21:45 | gmcharlt | multiple reasons makes sense, actually |
| 21:45 | 1. you have stuff overdue | |
| 21:45 | 2. you have fines | |
| 21:46 | 3. you dropped your card on the floor and we won't enable privleges until you come back to pick your card | |
| 21:46 | cait | can someone confirm maybe? I can add multiples from the check out tab (tab restrictions) but not from the details tab editing the patron, enither using the 'full' edit or the 'small' edit link |
| 21:47 | and... there it overwrites my existing one when i add the second :( | |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | do you have to turn it on |
| 21:48 | cait | do we require unit tests for TT plugins? |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | I don't see a restrictions tab... oh wait |
| 21:48 | cait | wizzyrea: maybe it only shows up when oyu have 1 at least |
| 21:48 | it's where you have checouts, holds... | |
| 21:48 | try adding one from edit patron - then move to checkouts tab and you should see it | |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | one moment. I may not be running the correct code to see that :P |
| 21:49 | right ok 2sec | |
| 21:50 | yus I see now | |
| 21:51 | http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2772/12la.png well that's confusing. | |
| 21:52 | cait | there i managed to add 2 |
| 21:52 | no problem | |
| 21:52 | but when you go to Edit, i had problems | |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | yea, I think perhaps that interface needs to be removed |
| 21:52 | cait | it keeps overwrting the existing one |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | in favor of this one. |
| 21:52 | cait | hm i think keeping the possible 2 restrictions together is ok |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | but we still have to support old restrictions |
| 21:52 | cait | but it should not overwrite and work the same everywhere |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | did you look at my screencap? |
| 21:52 | borrower is restricted, borrower has no restrictions. | |
| 21:52 | errrr | |
| 21:53 | cait | oh you rstricted and it doesn't show |
| 21:53 | i hadn't that happen | |
| 21:53 | oh my. | |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | I restricted through edit |
| 21:53 | cait | i am opening a bug, maybe you can add that? |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 21:54 | cait | i wonder if someone checked if this new handling will give trouble when you import debarred patrons... but that later |
| 21:56 | bug 11282 | |
| 21:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11282 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Not possible to create multiple restrictions from patron details/new restriction overwrites existing |
| 21:59 | * eythian | changes away from weird German music for the morning. |
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| 22:11 | wizzyrea | if you have a restriction done on the edit screen, putting in a new one with the new system overwrites/loses it |
| 22:11 | as well. | |
| 22:11 | eep | |
| 22:11 | oh wait... once the old debarment is gone, the interface changes! | |
| 22:12 | cait | it's confusing :( |
| 22:12 | i think it's actually not 2 different things, but all mixed up | |
| 22:12 | wizzyrea | yes, well we're losing data on that. |
| 22:12 | cait | because the old gui was changed to match the one on the new tab |
| 22:13 | if thatmakes sense.. restrictions tab and edit page look the same - so it shoudl be the smae thing | |
| 22:13 | update severity? | |
| 22:14 | wizzyrea | I need to test that again. |
| 22:14 | the borrower I was using | |
| 22:14 | had an existing, pre upgrade debarment | |
| 22:14 | and I lost it when I added one with the new system | |
| 22:15 | which... seems bad | |
| 22:15 | but I'm going to try that again | |
| 22:16 | http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4182/6kog.png < 3.12 | |
| 22:17 | http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4810/zegv.png < 3.14 | |
| 22:18 | if you click "view restrictions" you get the screenshot I posted earlier | |
| 22:18 | cait | i think we need owen or kyle maybe... |
| 22:18 | to verify how this should work | |
| 22:18 | wizzyrea | It appears that my old restriction is gone: http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7091/kq2j.png |
| 22:19 | cait | but there is somthing seriously wrong with it right now |
| 22:19 | wizzyrea | well we lose the old restrictions when new ones are added. |
| 22:19 | cait | i didn't have an old one |
| 22:19 | wizzyrea | that's a problem? I feel like it is. |
| 22:19 | cait | and kept losing one added with hte new system as well |
| 22:19 | if you go to edit patron | |
| 22:19 | it says add restriction - and you expect it to do the same as it does on the restriction tab | |
| 22:20 | only it did overwrite my prviously added manual all the time | |
| 22:20 | wizzyrea | yep, i see that too |
| 22:20 | yea your bug is definitely valid | |
| 22:21 | my thought is get rid of adding restrictions from the edit screen altogether. | |
| 22:21 | I much prefer this new interface, makes a lot more sense. | |
| 22:21 | cait | hm i think have the same on both |
| 22:21 | i think it#s thought to do that | |
| 22:22 | it just doesn't work | |
| 22:22 | well... just | |
| 22:22 | i should sleep :) | |
| 22:22 | wizzyrea | do you really need it in both? |
| 22:22 | cait | thx wizzyrea for double checking and testing |
| 22:22 | i think because it used to be there for ages | |
| 22:22 | * wizzyrea | is not sure that you do, except ^ |
| 22:22 | cait | it would be really confusing to not have it there |
| 22:22 | wizzyrea | then again you're moving it out right in front of people's faces |
| 22:23 | which would be *less* confusing for new users | |
| 22:23 | cait | i will have to think a bit about it |
| 22:23 | butit should NOT be broken ;) | |
| 22:23 | wizzyrea | yes it should not be broken :) |
| 22:23 | cait | and youneed to be able t import debarred patrons |
| 22:23 | which i should check next | |
| 22:23 | but tomorrow | |
| 22:23 | wahanui | rumour has it tomorrow is pizza friday! or the day after today |
| 22:23 | wizzyrea | I think you can still do that. it'll just be a different method. |
| 22:24 | losing a debarment is kind of a big deal though :/ | |
| 22:26 | if you have two debarments, it only overwrites the first one. | |
| 22:26 | cait | wizzyrea: it needs to work the same, i don't care what it does internally :) |
| 22:26 | filing another bug about the translatability issue | |
| 22:27 | wizzyrea | it's definitely wonky. |
| 22:28 | eythian | has something huge been pushed into git.k-c.org? |
| 22:28 | I just pulled 14MB from it | |
| 22:28 | oh, probably new translations | |
| 22:28 | wizzyrea | OH cait, it's *updating* the debarment from the edit page |
| 22:28 | changing the comment | |
| 22:28 | weird. | |
| 22:29 | cait | wizzyrea: i think it shouldn't be updating ever - not unless there is an edit option |
| 22:29 | hm. | |
| 22:29 | how do you tell it updated? | |
| 22:29 | wizzyrea | yea, you should have to tick a box "update this restriction" |
| 22:29 | in the borrower_debarment table, it says "updated" | |
| 22:29 | cait | or just an edit link that opens up the fields |
| 22:29 | more standard | |
| 22:29 | wizzyrea | ^ that |
| 22:30 | if you create one with the tab, it doesn't have an "updated" timestamp | |
| 22:30 | cait | well i will sleep and maybe nudge khall_away about it tomorrow |
| 22:30 | he will at least know how it should owrk | |
| 22:30 | good night all :) | |
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| 22:30 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
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| 22:42 | rangi | right, steak time |
| 22:42 | cyas later | |
| 22:47 | dcook | Mmm food |
| 22:48 | jcamins | Mmm. Fennel. |
| 22:49 | I should have some fennel. | |
| 22:49 | dcook | I wanted to look up some photos of fennel to make sure it was what I thought it was |
| 22:49 | But I wrote "define fennel" | |
| 22:49 | Technically it worked but not exactly what I was looking for.. | |
| 22:50 | Apparently it's relatively high in Vitamin C...hmm | |
| 22:52 | jcamins | What shall I do with the fennel? |
| 22:53 | dcook | Look at it, cook it, and then eat it. |
| 22:53 | * dcook | realizes that isn't very helpful at all. |
| 22:53 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 22:53 | Good plan. | |
| 22:53 | How shall I implement step 2? | |
| 22:53 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1519: SUCCESS in 1 hr 58 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1519/ |
| 22:53 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11245: fix typo in modborrowers.tt javascript string | |
| 22:53 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 10996: Allow numeric subfields to be stripped on export | |
| 22:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11245 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , typo in modborrowers.tt javascript string |
| 22:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10996 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Cannot exclude numeric subfields on export | |
| 22:55 | jcamins | Huffington Post has 25 suggestions. |
| 22:55 | Let's see what they are. | |
| 22:57 | Caramelized fennel tarts. | |
| 22:57 | Oh yes. | |
| 22:57 | That sounds wonderful. | |
| 22:57 | But a little too time-consuming for right now. | |
| 22:57 | dcook | Mmm, that does sound delicious though. |
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