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| 00:13 | * dcook | hopes xchat doesn't freeze again.. |
| 00:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #120 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 00:49 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9761: DBRev 3.13.00.021 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fece7bc3699d88750> / Bug 9761: Unit tests for ConfirmFutureHolds changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1c74b17bdc060a703> / Bug 9761: Preliminary measures for adding a unit test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]diff;h=579b65c973 |
| 01:30 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #120: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/120/ |
| 01:30 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9761: Make it possible to confirm future hold requests at checkin time | |
| 01:30 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9761: dbrev for ConfirmFutureHolds | |
| 01:30 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9761: Reformulating the preference description | |
| 01:30 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9761: Preliminary measures for adding a unit test | |
| 01:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9761 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Make it possible to confirm future hold requests at checkin time |
| 01:30 | jenkins_koha | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9761: Unit tests for ConfirmFutureHolds changes |
| 01:30 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 9761: DBRev 3.13.00.021 | |
| 01:45 | wizzyrea | hm interesting http://www.amazon.com/gp/reade[…]84864#reader-link |
| 01:45 | others get feature unavailable eh | |
| 01:45 | ? | |
| 01:46 | eythian | I do, yeah |
| 01:46 | wizzyrea | eenteresting |
| 01:46 | dcook | Yep |
| 01:46 | jeff | "We're sorry, but this feature is currently unavailable. Please try again later. |
| 01:46 | " | |
| 01:46 | dcook | Should have an American check :p |
| 01:47 | wizzyrea | theoretically, according to amazon, I am. |
| 01:47 | well jeff is american eh? | |
| 01:47 | in america american | |
| 01:49 | jeff | http://www.amazon.com/Best-New[…]on/dp/1869416643/ and http://www.amazon.com/dp/1869416643/ seem to work without error -- i'm not sure what the "reader" bit in the URL is meant to do. |
| 01:50 | wizzyrea | yea me either |
| 01:50 | that's what I was wondering | |
| 01:51 | * wizzyrea | thinks to eradicate it, if it's going to be ugly. |
| 01:51 | dcook | Eradicate! |
| 01:51 | wizzyrea | thanks for that jeff |
| 01:51 | * dcook | says while envisioning the heavy duty cyborg from an early episode of season 1 of Ghost in the Shell |
| 01:51 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 01:51 | ex ter mi nate | |
| 01:54 | eythian | http://youtu.be/SemBxkekFaU |
| 01:55 | (that was a quite good track when I saw them do it live, too :) | |
| 01:58 | dcook | Diggin' it so far |
| 02:30 | wizzyrea | it needs 24 more followers |
| 02:31 | could also join something like libcatcode.org | |
| 02:31 | jeff | wizzyrea: i'm curious what you think about the koha stackexchange propsal versus the libraries stackexchange proposal -- do you think that a more limited scope will be an advantage? |
| 02:31 | wizzyrea | I do, I think |
| 02:31 | if I was going to expand the scope, I'd expand it to "Open ILS" | |
| 02:32 | I just don't want to see questions in there like "How do I repair a book that had wine spilled on it" right next door to "I've installed Koha on RedHat and now I can't <do a thing>" | |
| 02:33 | rangi | or how do i use X piece of proprietary crap :) |
| 02:33 | wizzyrea | ^^^^ this |
| 02:34 | rangi | however i suspect that since SE is proprietary crap, we'll have to walk the walk on that :-) |
| 02:34 | wizzyrea | yea probably going to end up not on SE |
| 02:34 | in the end | |
| 02:35 | jeff | wizzyrea: i'm mostly wondering if a koha SE would be able to maintain the 15 questions/day on average and 1,500 visits/day average to be considered "healthy" and escape Beta without being shut down. |
| 02:35 | wizzyrea | yep, I have that concern as well. |
| 02:35 | it seems a worthy experiment to judge if it's worth setting up our own though | |
| 02:37 | eythian | wahanui: gentoo |
| 02:37 | wahanui | gentoo is supply that too in the future :D |
| 02:37 | eythian | no wahanui, gentoo is https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35890 |
| 02:37 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 02:37 | huginn | 04Bug 35890: was not found. |
| 02:37 | jeff | No objections, just wondering about your thoughts -- I know the libraries SE was a bit of a learning experience, and Unshelved Answers before that. |
| 02:38 | wizzyrea | eythian: that is amazing. |
| 02:39 | rangi | jeff: its more an easy way to see if people would be interested in something like SE, then we use one of the free software implementations to run our own with less rules around how many people must use it :) |
| 02:40 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 02:47 | jeff | rangi: that's what I thought wizzyrea was saying, yep. :-) |
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| 03:20 | jcamins | jeff: hey, did you know that EMU's "Up-North" extension facility is in Traverse City, MI? |
| 03:21 | EMU also has a "Fish Lake" campus. | |
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| 03:22 | rangi | hi johnbljr |
| 03:22 | johnbljr | hi rangi |
| 03:23 | Greetings! I am looking for a z39.5 server that will assist with entering Chinese language books. Any thoughts? | |
| 03:23 | wizzyrea | irspy? |
| 03:23 | wahanui | irspy is a good source for identifying Z39.50 targets. See http://irspy.indexdata.com. |
| 03:24 | johnbljr | OK let me check it out. |
| 03:24 | wizzyrea | you mean for importing records, not serving them? :) |
| 03:24 | jeff | jcamins: yep, they're part of the local college's University Center program. looks like EMU offers about ten courses, though only one of them is actually in Traverse City. |
| 03:25 | (the other nine are in Bellaire) | |
| 03:25 | jcamins | jeff: I learned this because "Fish stocking -- Michigan -- East Fish Lake" is considered "very relevant" to my search for "fish" in UMich's database. |
| 03:30 | jeff | huh. three of those ten courses are skiing or snowboarding! |
| 03:30 | jcamins | jeff: guess I know where to go for my winter sports! |
| 03:33 | jeff | emu has an app, and this gem is from one of the reviews: ``I had to go to the Hover Building.The campus map lists this building slightly west of Cameroon in Africa.That made finding it difficult irl.'' |
| 03:33 | jcamins | lol |
| 03:33 | eythian | hahah |
| 03:33 | dcook | hehe |
| 03:39 | jeff | there was a large library vendor with an ios app that tried to find libraries near you with that vendor's products... if it had trouble locating you, it would display an error message: |
| 03:40 | Location Services Failed! We were not able to locate you, ergo we will be using coordinates for Near Apple Headquarters. [OK] | |
| 03:40 | * wizzyrea | blinks |
| 03:41 | wizzyrea | many things there. |
| 03:41 | there is not enough usage of the word ergo in UI | |
| 03:42 | eythian | heh, my app that uses location services to determine if you're in range to decide whether to send notifications apparently assumes that you are in wellington if it doesn't know any better. |
| 03:42 | So often getting off a plane, where the location hasn't worked things out yet, you'll get notifications before it works out you're not in Wellington after all. | |
| 03:42 | I need to fix that bug. | |
| 03:43 | jeff | hrm. i have a wide variety of screenshots in this collection. Not sure which of these "Breaking News: Apple Co-founder Steve Jobs Dies" news articles is worse... the one with the "Win an iPad 2!" ad, or the one with the "Grow Zombies for FREE!" ad. :P |
| 03:44 | eythian | haha |
| 03:45 | jeff | then there's the headline "Fire Destroys Pickford Consignment Shop, Monkey Rescued" where the body of the article makes no mention of the monkey. |
| 03:47 | jcamins | Myshkin has resorted to bribery in an effort to get me to go to bed: his favorite toy has been deposited on my pillow. |
| 03:47 | Good night. | |
| 03:47 | wahanui | If you feel like someone is looking through your window, it's OK, it's just me. |
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| 03:49 | johnbljr | So i just set up Koha and thanks to you I was able to find libraries with Chinese books. Now when I go to import them once I find them I receive the error that I am missing tags. How important is it that I have the tags added and how can i remove tags? |
| 03:50 | jcamins | @later tell cait Hier sind Mannheimer bibliografische Datensätze! Und das Wort "Gesamtkunstwerk"! http://bnumich.cloudapp.net:30[…]q=gesamtkunstwerk |
| 03:50 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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| 03:58 | eythian | wahanui: competition is http://youtu.be/Ia8OKMlqxLs |
| 03:58 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
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| 04:38 | mtompset | split! |
| 04:39 | eythian | wahanui: split is <action> will provide the bananas! |
| 04:39 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 04:40 | mtompset | split! |
| 04:40 | split? | |
| 04:40 | * wahanui | will provide the bananas! |
| 04:40 | mtompset | Cute, eythian. |
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| 04:45 | wizzyrea | hey that's funny |
| 04:45 | i mean, totally serious. | |
| 05:08 | eythian | wahanui: wake up, sheeple is <reply>ARISE, MY HUMAN-SHEEP HYBRIDS! |
| 05:08 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 05:08 | dcook | lol |
| 05:27 | mtompset | wake up, sheeple? |
| 05:27 | wahanui | ARISE, eythian's HUMAN-SHEEP HYBRIDS! |
| 05:27 | eythian | haha iios |
| 05:27 | no wahanui, wake up, sheeple is <reply>ARISE, \MY HUMAN-SHEEP HYBRIDS! | |
| 05:27 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 05:27 | eythian | *oops |
| 05:28 | dcook | sure sure :p |
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| 05:45 | mtompset | wake up, sheeple? |
| 05:45 | wahanui | ARISE, MY HUMAN-SHEEP HYBRIDS! |
| 05:45 | pug | Im up! |
| 05:48 | hey any of you guys have some experience with the debian script - koha-dump and koha-restore? | |
| 05:48 | Im having this "Operation DROP USER failed for" issue .. followed some steps online, but Im still stuck. | |
| 05:49 | mtompset | DROP USER? |
| 05:50 | Sorry... not familiar with them. | |
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| 05:56 | pug | its a mysql error , when the backup/restore scripts for debian are used .. |
| 06:24 | magnuse | pug: which script gives you that error? koha-dump or koha-restore? |
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| 06:39 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:40 | mtompset | Bonjour. :) |
| 06:41 | Well, I should sleep. | |
| 06:41 | Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. :) | |
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| 06:48 | samueld | hi everybody |
| 06:50 | magnuse | bonjour! |
| 06:50 | @wunder boo | |
| 06:50 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on September 25, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
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| 06:50 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 06:50 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 20.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on September 25, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:50 | magnuse | ok, you win ;-) |
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| 07:00 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:31 | magnuse | is 942 (and specifically 942$c) actually used for anything in koha today? |
| 07:31 | dcook | What's 942$c again? |
| 07:31 | magnuse | record level document type |
| 07:32 | dcook | I think it provides a default for when you're adding items |
| 07:32 | It's also stored in the biblioitems table | |
| 07:32 | Although I'm not sure that it's really "used" in that table.. | |
| 07:32 | magnuse | "Koha [default] item type" |
| 07:33 | yeah, i guess it is used as the default for item types for items on the same record... | |
| 07:34 | dcook | I'm not really sure how important that is though |
| 07:34 | I would imagine that could be phased out | |
| 07:35 | magnuse | yup, me too |
| 07:36 | i suspect it exists for historical reasons, and comes from the time when koha was more frbr'ish | |
| 07:38 | dcook | I imagine so |
| 07:47 | feature slush? | |
| 07:47 | wahanui | somebody said feature slush was the date stuff that got passed-qa makes it into 3.14 with high probability |
| 07:47 | dcook | release schedule? |
| 07:47 | wahanui | release schedule is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gmcharlt#Timeline |
| 07:47 | dcook | Ah |
| 07:47 | Oh well. | |
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| 07:56 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:59 | @later tell drojf ping | |
| 07:59 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:00 | dcook | Time for shopping and gym |
| 08:00 | have a good day #koha | |
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| 08:15 | jon_ | Hi there |
| 08:15 | wahanui | hey, jon_ |
| 08:15 | jon_ | Hi wahanui |
| 08:16 | I am trying to setup Koha on Centos and I am running into some trouble | |
| 08:16 | particularly with some prerequisites | |
| 08:16 | Warning: prerequisite Net::Server::PreFork 0.97 not found. We have unknown version. Warning: prerequisite Net::Z3950::ZOOM 1.16 not found. Warning: prerequisite Plack::Middleware::HTTPExceptions 0.01 not found. We have unknown version. Warning: prerequisite Schedule::At 1.06 not found. Warning: prerequisite Text::Aspell 0.04 not found. Warning: prerequisite XML::Dumper 0.81 not found. Warning: prerequisite XML::LibXSLT 1.59 not found. Warning: prereq | |
| 08:17 | I'm not sure if anyone else experienced this | |
| 08:19 | magnuse | jon_: i suspect not a lot of people here have experience with koha on centos |
| 08:20 | jon_ | even online, most tutorials are debian/ubuntu |
| 08:20 | magnuse | yeah, debian (or ubuntu) is the recommended os, which most of the developers use |
| 08:22 | are you doing a test installation just to kick the tyres, or to develop or to use in production? | |
| 08:22 | jon_ | I will be happy with just a test installation at this point |
| 08:22 | magnuse | there is some info on the wiki, but i have no idea how updated or accurate it is: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]tos_6.3_x86_64_en |
| 08:22 | jon_ | and then we'll take it from there to a production |
| 08:23 | magnuse | then i would use debian and the packages, to get it up and running as smoothly as possible |
| 08:27 | jon_ | do you recommend koha being on a server on can it be part of a web server? |
| 08:31 | magnuse | not sure i understand that question |
| 08:31 | you can run other things on the same server as koha | |
| 08:35 | pug | magnuse, are you there ? sorry I was out. |
| 08:43 | magnuse: are you there ? sorry I was out. | |
| 08:44 | magnuse | yup |
| 08:49 | pug | yeah, so I was getting the issue - "Operation DROP USER failed for" , on koha-restore |
| 08:50 | I basically did a koha-dump .. then did a koha-remove .. no errors so far .. | |
| 08:50 | but when I move on to restore from the dump files, I get the above specified mysql error | |
| 08:51 | Im doing backup restore for the first time .. is there a obvious mistake Im making? | |
| 08:52 | magnuse | hm, sounds like a weird error to get |
| 08:52 | i'm not sure i ever tried the koha-restore script | |
| 08:57 | pug | ah ok -- its a reported error http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10517 -- but I couldnt find a fix for it |
| 08:57 | huginn | 04Bug 10517: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , kohe-restore fails to create mysqlusermysql_hostname so zebra update fails |
| 09:01 | fredericd | On master/3.12, build_holds_queue doesn't seem to work anymore. tmp_holds queue isn't populated at all, and so Circulation - Holds queue & Holds to pull pages doesn't display anything. |
| 09:01 | Does it sound familiar to anyone? | |
| 09:07 | kf | fredericd: it sounds scary, but i haven't seen reports to that so far |
| 09:07 | hm i tested the holds_queue a while back for a bug - but not sure when and it was on master | |
| 09:10 | rangi | fredericd: id compare the table in your db, to the kohastructure.sql |
| 09:11 | make sure your db isnt missing a column or something | |
| 09:15 | fredericd | rangi: thks for the suggestion |
| 09:15 | I'm down to examining MapItemsToHoldRequests C4::HoldQueue function, which always return nothing... | |
| 09:16 | kf | i think there were some 'fixes' in that area - maybe worth taking a look at the git history too? it might be something in configuration needs to be switched because it got stricter |
| 09:46 | magnuse | incomplete_data_exports-- |
| 10:09 | @later tell gmcharlt: did you try to leave me a @later a while back that could be related to bug 10945? if so i am afraid i missed it... | |
| 10:09 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:39 | * magnuse | lunches |
| 10:58 | kf | @later tell drofj changing email to E-Mail because of Duden |
| 10:58 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:48 | magnuse | Duden - was bedeutet das? |
| 11:54 | fredericd | Ich weiss es nicht |
| 11:54 | It's confirmed I don't understand at all how holds queue is managed in Koha | |
| 11:54 | I can't understand the difference between Circulation Holds queue and Holds to pull report. | |
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| 11:55 | fredericd | And examining build_holds_queue.pl adds to my confusion |
| 12:02 | magnuse | nudge nudge http://area51.stackexchange.co[…]-library-software |
| 12:04 | kf | fredericd: there has been a blog post about that - i found it quite enlightening, let me find it |
| 12:04 | fredericd: http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]koha-holds-queue/ | |
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| 12:17 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 12:21 | tcohen | morning |
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| 12:23 | fredericd | kf: Thanks. I've seen this article. I'm helpless |
| 12:45 | magnuse | hiya oleonard and tcohen |
| 12:46 | tcohen | hi magnuse |
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| 12:55 | oleonard | https://twitter.com/pclaireaux[…]82750934562250752 |
| 12:55 | ^^ for my French-speaking friends | |
| 13:01 | kf | fredericd: helpless is not good, but not sure i can help :( |
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| 13:25 | jcamins | I would like to take a stand and state that directly running unsanitized user input is a bad thing. |
| 13:26 | kf | jcamins: I can see where you are coming from there... |
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| 13:43 | oleonard | Hi kmkale |
| 13:43 | kf | hi oleonard |
| 13:47 | kmkale | hi oleonard |
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| 14:01 | * oleonard | grumbles about Stack Exchange mods closing questions as duplicate because they don't know Koha |
| 14:02 | oleonard | "What is the latest stable version?" is not a dupe of "How do I install Koha on Windows?" |
| 14:02 | jcamins | oleonard: even without knowing Koha, how are those questions similar? |
| 14:05 | oleonard | The mod assumes that both mean "How do I install Koha?" |
| 14:05 | I guess | |
| 14:08 | Here's my next example question: Why can't I post an example question sooner than 3 minutes later? :P | |
| 14:19 | kf | oleonard: guess that means Stackoverflow is not the right place |
| 14:19 | oleonard | It could certainly be a source of friction |
| 14:19 | kf | oleonard: someone in my distance study said there are plugins for joomla implementing a system like that for questions |
| 14:19 | oleonard: maybe we could find something for wordpress? | |
| 14:20 | oleonard | I'm not sure it's worth it if it isn't on Stackoverflow... Isn't part of the point that it's in a place where people are likely to look? |
| 14:21 | kf | not sure |
| 14:21 | i don't really use stackoverflow | |
| 14:21 | jeff | i'm not certain that koha is on-topic for stackoverflow. |
| 14:21 | kf | well idon't use it at all if it doesn't come up in search results |
| 14:21 | jcamins | oleonard: no, my understanding is that it's just a test to see if we should set up a FOSS system. |
| 14:21 | kf | but i like the way it works |
| 14:21 | jeff | which i suspect is why there's an attempt to create another stackexchange site that is koha-focused, rather than try to use stackoverflow. |
| 14:23 | stackoverflow is more about "writing software" questions, not "using software" questions. | |
| 14:26 | though i see there are some koha questions on stackoverflow -- none of the koha-specific ones seem to have any votes, though. :-) | |
| 14:26 | http://stackoverflow.com/search?q=koha | |
| 14:26 | jcamins | I have no interest in a StackOverflow-like system. |
| 14:26 | gaetan_B | bye! |
| 14:27 | jcamins | The mailing list volume is already too high for me. |
| 14:27 | oleonard | Crazy that anyone would ask a Koha-specific question on stackoverflow when there are Koha-specific options |
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| 14:36 | chris_n | a very interesting discussion: http://tinyurl.com/nqfuu7l |
| 14:37 | jcamins | Which one? |
| 14:37 | wahanui | i think Which one is that? The fixed navbar? |
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| 14:38 | oleonard | chris_n: Which discussion? |
| 14:38 | jcamins | (the link is just to the index) |
| 14:42 | kf | tablets? |
| 14:42 | jcamins | Tablets? |
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| 14:43 | jcamins | Oh. Following the link again brings us to the actual message. |
| 14:44 | oleonard | Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: |
| 14:47 | chris_n | opps |
| 14:48 | om | |
| 14:48 | try this: http://lists.ala.org/wws/arc/i[…]-09/msg00041.html | |
| 14:49 | re the future relevancy of the librarian | |
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| 14:55 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:06 | oleonard | Re-adding the maxreserves system preference seems like a step backwards to me. Bug 4045. |
| 15:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , No check for maximum number of allowed holds. |
| 15:17 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10687: DBRev 3.13.00.022 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]90edee488d431c311> / Bug 10687: (follow-up) remove authority 68a/68b tags from translated MARC21 framework... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]32cf4967c3de6fdd6> / Bug 10687: Delete erroneous tags 68a and 68b on default MARC21 auth framework <http://git.k | |
| 15:21 | gmcharlt | oleonard: agreed |
| 15:22 | oleonard | ...not that I can offer a better solution |
| 15:22 | * gmcharlt | would rather see somebody take up kf's suggestion of making an equivalent to the Total current checkouts allowed functionality rather than (re)add a global limit |
| 15:23 | gmcharlt | IOW, a better solution was proposed but apparently ignored |
| 15:23 | though possibily better yet would be carving out a separate 'holdrules' set of tables so that issuingrules doesn't end up doing too much | |
| 15:24 | kf | gmcharlt: we need to split things up there - i agree |
| 15:24 | it's not really easy to handle, I end up loading the rules with sql all the time | |
| 15:25 | because too worreid about making mistakes using the interface | |
| 15:25 | and they are hard to spot | |
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| 15:29 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #121 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 15:45 | ebegin | Anybody knows what are the field for main author in Unimarc ? The equivalence of MARC fields 100, 110 and 111 ? |
| 15:46 | I guess fredericd knows that :) | |
| 15:47 | oleonard | Anyone else find that after checking in an item with a hold, clicking "Print and confirm" pops up a window that says "reserve not found?" |
| 15:48 | gmcharlt | oleonard: ick. in master, just now? |
| 15:48 | oleonard | Yes |
| 15:48 | kf | oleonard: do you have the slip configrued? |
| 15:48 | oleonard: i had once problems with that | |
| 15:49 | oleonard | kf: RESERVESLIP ? |
| 15:49 | kf | yep |
| 15:49 | gmcharlt | ebegin: the equivalents appear to be the 700/1/ and the 710/1/2, |
| 15:49 | kf | at least I think so |
| 15:49 | * gmcharlt | <== not UNIMARC expert |
| 15:49 | oleonard | My tests show it's a side-effect of Bug 9394 |
| 15:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9394 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Use reserve_id where possible |
| 15:50 | oleonard | ...says git bisect, so unless the slip configuration issue is connected somehow I don't think that's it. |
| 15:53 | ebegin | thanks gmcharlt. We are fixing the bibtex export to include 1XX : bug 6201 |
| 15:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6201 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , BibTeX export does not incude MARC21 main entry |
| 15:56 | kf | oleonard: guess there had to be one |
| 15:56 | oleonard: i was totall ymissing the slip as it hadn't been installed for german - so if you have one it should be unrealted | |
| 15:58 | gmcharlt | oleonard: I'll have a patch for you to look at in the next five minutes or so |
| 16:01 | kf | it's scary to try and figure out where the small icons in the result list come from.. |
| 16:01 | and detail and result list do it differently | |
| 16:02 | I am trying to answer a question on the german mailing list | |
| 16:02 | do LDR, 008 and 007 sound right? | |
| 16:03 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 16:04 | kf | jcamins++ for both the patch and the answr :) |
| 16:17 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #121: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/121/ |
| 16:17 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10687: Delete erroneous tags 68a and 68b on default MARC21 auth framework | |
| 16:17 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10687: (follow-up) remove authority 68a/68b tags from translated MARC21 framework scripts | |
| 16:17 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10687: DBRev 3.13.00.022 | |
| 16:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10687 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Delete erroneous tags 68a and 68b on default MARC21 auth framework |
| 16:20 | gmcharlt | oleonard: bug 10949 |
| 16:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10949 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , hold request not retrieved when printing hold slip |
| 16:21 | oleonard | gmcharlt++ |
| 16:35 | * oleonard | goes back to trying to reproduce bug 10843 |
| 16:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10843 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , print a slip can cause an error |
| 16:39 | * oleonard | managed to do it once, but now can't |
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| 16:57 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10730: (follow-up) restore background color for cells <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]612a528a888e9c8e6> / Bug 10730: Use DataTables on the tag review page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fa99cc8a00df3a4f4> |
| 17:00 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #122 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 17:12 | kf | bye all :) |
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| 17:19 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 17:19 | I was running the qa-tool on a series of patches I was testing, so I forgot how many patches were applies, so I just decided to use the number 10. | |
| 17:20 | I got a qa-tools fail on bug 10730 which was pushed to master. Nothing horrible, just a white space issue. | |
| 17:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10730 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on the tag review page |
| 17:45 | jenkins_koha | Project master_maria build #122: SUCCESS in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/122/ |
| 17:45 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10730: Use DataTables on the tag review page | |
| 17:45 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10730: (follow-up) restore background color for cells | |
| 17:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10730 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on the tag review page |
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| 18:03 | cait | fredericd++ (fixing cart and list email) |
| 18:06 | tcohen | anyone interested in havving fun testing? bug 10003 |
| 18:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10003 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-* scripts (packages) should provide tab-completion in bash |
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| 18:28 | chris_n | wow, we've been beating around about the PDF/unicode issue for over four years now |
| 18:28 | * chris_n | sure hopes we can get on with embedding ttf fonts now |
| 18:43 | * gmcharlt | would not be opposed to an interim solution that just the paths to the fonts in koha-conf.xml or the like |
| 18:43 | gmcharlt | more configurability can come later |
| 18:43 | *sticks the paths | |
| 18:50 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.16.248.213 pasted "If we don't get to publish the l10n packages in time..." (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/230 |
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| 18:56 | oleonard | Why do I see a mix of item types and collection codes under the item type facet on search results? |
| 18:59 | Does anyone else get that? | |
| 19:01 | * oleonard | wonders if his data is messed up somehow |
| 19:11 | cait | oleonard: not sure really |
| 19:11 | i had problems with the location facet recently | |
| 19:11 | does that show for you? | |
| 19:12 | oleonard | shelving location? |
| 19:12 | wahanui | shelving location is now in italic underneath the library name. |
| 19:12 | cait | oleonard: yes |
| 19:13 | oleonard | No |
| 19:14 | cait | bug? |
| 19:14 | wahanui | bug is probably it stores biblionumber not itemnumber |
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| 19:15 | oleonard | Or is the location facet only supposed to show if you're in SingleBranchMode? |
| 19:16 | cait | oleonard: it used to be like that... but i thought i had tested a patch recently that changed it |
| 19:16 | maybe it's still in galen's queue | |
| 19:28 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
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| 19:50 | chris_n | gmcharlt: +1 |
| 19:51 | and it should default to using the built-in fonts | |
| 19:51 | that way if a user does not want to install ttf, there's no need to | |
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| 20:21 | mtompset | How do I change the marcflavor in my koha system? |
| 20:22 | Is it possible to have mixed marc data in Koha? | |
| 20:24 | cait | no |
| 20:25 | mtompset | Okay... does someone have some UNIMARC database that I can use for testing? |
| 20:26 | It seems to be the only way to completely test well the bug I really want in. | |
| 20:27 | cait | there is one in the sandbox git repo i think |
| 20:34 | mtompset | what is the url for the sandbox git repo? |
| 20:34 | cait | it's on the normal repo |
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| 20:59 | bag | oh man rangi Team USA wins the cups |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | shh no talking. |
| 21:03 | ibeardslee | bag: well Team Oracle .. wasn't there only the one USAian on the boat? |
| 21:03 | cait | not talking about that? |
| 21:04 | bag | yeah sorry Team Oracle |
| 21:04 | 8-1 deficit come back too | |
| 21:05 | gmcharlt | that does it |
| 21:06 | NZ clearly has to field Team PostgreSQL/MariaDB next time | |
| 21:06 | mtompset | what cups? |
| 21:06 | gmcharlt | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America's_Cup |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | *snicker* http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]-the-list-kohails |
| 21:14 | jeff | CGI.pm-- for inaccurate documentation and annoying assumptions about application/xml :P |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | be rangi |
| 21:15 | wahanui | Send a patch! |
| 21:15 | cait | be wizzyrea |
| 21:15 | wahanui | do you like my aspirational, irritatingly American, optimism? |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 21:19 | bag | s/cups/cup :P |
| 21:20 | rambutan | How can you lose 8 straight? How? |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | technology |
| 21:24 | mtompset | Has anyone here every done a UNIMARC install? |
| 21:25 | ^every^ever^ | |
| 21:25 | cait | yes, you just pick the other things when running makefile |
| 21:25 | mtompset | I'm actually about to set up my own UNIMARC Koha. |
| 21:25 | I'm going to attempt to set it up like Biblibre's UNIMARC demo. | |
| 21:26 | Because it seems like the only way to thoroughly test this patch is to use it under MARC21 and UNIMARC. | |
| 21:27 | And I want this patch. | |
| 21:27 | bug 6874 | |
| 21:27 | wahanui | i heard bug 6874 was epic |
| 21:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC |
| 21:33 | * gmcharlt | sees nothing in that patch that requires a MARC21 user to deal with a UNIMARC installation in order to legimitately sign off |
| 21:33 | gmcharlt | IOW, you can save yourself some work |
| 21:39 | mtompset | yes, but I don't like to sign off, unless I have really tested it. |
| 21:40 | And C4::Biblio's 6th change deals with an ELSE case that requires a different MARC flavour. | |
| 21:41 | gmcharlt | it's nice if you want to make the effort -- but there is /no/ implicit or explicit requirement that you do so |
| 21:41 | mtompset | It's a matter of thoroughness. |
| 21:41 | If *I* am thorough, then QA's job is easier. | |
| 21:43 | not to mention... there are quite a few UNIMARC patches untested and not signed off, because of a lack of UNIMARC testers. | |
| 21:43 | The thoroughness for this bug has potential for handling others. | |
| 21:54 | eythian | hi. |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | I approve of testing unimarc patches. Might want to get with a unimarc user so you know how to test it. |
| 21:57 | mtompset | In this case, I don't need to get with a unimarc user as much as I need unimarc data to trigger a couple cases related to a code change. |
| 21:57 | which means I need a unimarc koha installation. | |
| 22:03 | rangi | http://krebsonsecurity.com/201[…]id-theft-service/ <-- apropos yesterdays discussion |
| 22:04 | cait | morning rangi |
| 22:04 | rangi | hey cait |
| 22:04 | wizzyrea | I meant for the other unimarc patches |
| 22:04 | morning rangi | |
| 22:07 | eep | |
| 22:19 | rambutan | https://konklone.com/post/swit[…]ttps-now-for-free |
| 22:20 | wizzyrea | ^^^ this |
| 22:20 | wahanui | ^^^ this is it, thanks |
| 22:21 | wizzyrea | haha that dev reaction also apt for "Someone deleted all of the intranetuserjs on the day before go-live" |
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| 22:25 | cait | wizzyrea: the action_logs are great for that :) |
| 22:26 | wizzyrea | http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.co[…]92012022625v7.gif |
| 22:26 | :) | |
| 22:26 | hehe yea that's what I did. :) | |
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| 23:30 | mtompset | Greetings, twirlip papa dcook tcohen NateC. :) |
| 23:30 | NateC | :) |
| 23:30 | * dcook | waves |
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| 23:48 | FORMAL | hello |
| 23:48 | wahanui | hello, FORMAL |
| 23:48 | FORMAL | hi |
| 23:48 | what is koha? | |
| 23:48 | wahanui | somebody said koha was a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info |
| 23:48 | FORMAL | wahanui, you a bot? |
| 23:48 | wahanui | bugger all, i dunno, formal |
| 23:48 | FORMAL | you are |
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| 23:56 | eythian | wahanui: \are you a bot is <reply>http://youtu.be/-Vzw1NdSZmc |
| 23:56 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 23:56 | eythian | are you a bot? |
| 23:56 | wahanui | http://youtu.be/-Vzw1NdSZmc |
| 23:57 | mtompset | Where do you find this stuff, eythian?! |
| 23:58 | eythian | How do you not know Basshunter? This track was all over the internet in 2008 or so. |
| 23:58 | FORMAL | mmm |
| 23:58 | mtompset | I was in the Philippines. |
| 23:58 | FORMAL | i came because i saw a log about quant finance |
| 23:58 | mtompset | Following music on the internet was not my focus. |
| 23:58 | FORMAL | from this channel |
| 23:58 | who works on quant finance here? | |
| 23:59 | gmcharlt | very likely nobody; Koha is software for libraries |
| 23:59 | mtompset | quant finance?! I have never heard of that either. |
| 23:59 | FORMAL | lol |
| 23:59 | software | |
| 23:59 | wahanui | software is wrong, not the people >.> |
| 23:59 | FORMAL | what kind of software? |
| 23:59 | wahanui shut up you robot | |
| 23:59 | wahanui | FORMAL: i'm not following you... |
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