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| 00:00 | dcook | gmcharlt: I was rather puzzled when I first got here and they had mystery plants :p |
| 00:00 | jcamins | You know what I had trouble with? |
| 00:00 | Courgettes. | |
| 00:00 | Ooh! | |
| 00:00 | She's here with escarole! | |
| 00:00 | * jcamins | leaves to make saag. |
| 00:01 | gmcharlt | jcamins: ah! the solution to the Midwest's zucchini crisis! |
| 00:01 | eythian | I just have a rogan josh ordered, because wednesday is curry day |
| 00:01 | gmcharlt | swap it for a courgette crisis! |
| 00:01 | eythian | or a corvette crisis? |
| 00:01 | dcook | I suppose you know you're a nerd when you think of Star Wars before Chevy or the Navy when you hear "corvette" |
| 00:02 | * dcook | thinks that he might have to take up this wednesday curry day idea |
| 00:03 | jcamins | dcook: hehe. |
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| 00:49 | dcook | jcamins: You know that example in your git where you show how to add a new index to Zebra? Do you have that handy? |
| 00:49 | hey ya BobB and libsysguy :) | |
| 00:49 | libsysguy | hey dcook |
| 00:49 | dcook | jcamins: Nvm. I think I found it. |
| 01:06 | Irma joined #koha | |
| 01:06 | dcook | Hey Irma :) |
| 01:07 | Irma | hi dcook how r U? |
| 01:08 | dcook | Mmm not too bad. Plugging away like usual. How about you? Back in Oz or still in the US? |
| 01:08 | jcamins | dcook: what are you indexing? |
| 01:08 | dcook | jcamins: I was looking at the email from Kenan about why his 090 wasn't showing up, and I figured it was relating to indexing, but then I started doubting myself |
| 01:08 | jcamins | Nope. Nothing to do with indexing. |
| 01:09 | dcook | Yeah, that's what I realized eventually. |
| 01:09 | Irma | back again after a very interesting business & family trip. |
| 01:09 | jcamins | Everything to do with the fact that 090 is a bib-level classification, and what he wants is items. |
| 01:09 | dcook | Because the whole record is being retrieved. It's not that he's looking for the 090 specifically |
| 01:09 | Irma: Interesting sounds...interesting. I hear you guys had a good time with bag :) | |
| 01:10 | jcamins: Mmm, I follow you now. Because it prints out the item call number on the side...but just for the items. | |
| 01:10 | Drrr. Of course. | |
| 01:10 | I am a bit surprised that Koha doesn't index 090 by default thouhg | |
| 01:10 | though* | |
| 01:10 | Irma | dcook, indeed. |
| 01:10 | dcook | I suppose there's no reason it would though |
| 01:10 | jcamins | dcook: yeah, that is a bit odd. |
| 01:11 | dcook | jcamins: Up for another zebra question which is unrelated to 090? |
| 01:11 | jcamins | Sure. |
| 01:11 | dcook | I'm looking at how search results come up when you click on a tag in a tag cloud... |
| 01:11 | And it looks like the results are pulled using...*goes to pastebot* | |
| 01:11 | * jcamins | throws salt over his shoulder. |
| 01:12 | pastebot | "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "tag results" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/71 |
| 01:12 | dcook | I... |
| 01:12 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 01:12 | The comments are absolutely correct. | |
| 01:12 | dcook | Wait, that has nothing to do with Zebra |
| 01:12 | It's just pulling them from the database | |
| 01:12 | jcamins | Right, wasn't that the question? |
| 01:13 | dcook | Nope, just my brain being crazy |
| 01:13 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 01:13 | dcook | For some reason, I thought it was getting records FROM {biblioserver}->{RECORDS} |
| 01:13 | * jcamins | heard "Why does it look like Zebra is not used at all?" |
| 01:13 | dcook | Not putting them into it |
| 01:13 | jcamins | Because that's a good question. |
| 01:13 | A very good question. | |
| 01:14 | dcook | Indeed. |
| 01:16 | Mind you, I don't know why you'd need to use Zebra if you're just retrieving records based on a tag | |
| 01:16 | jcamins | Because it'd be nice to be able to do an actual search? |
| 01:16 | dcook | But if you're clicking a tag on a tag cloud, why would you need to run an actual query? |
| 01:17 | jcamins | You wouldn't, but wouldn't it be nice to be able to search? |
| 01:17 | dcook | It would probably be nice if your search included tags.. |
| 01:18 | Also just the way things are set up...if you change the sort order of your results, it runs the query and ignores the tags...which is a thing | |
| 01:18 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 01:18 | dcook | Alas, my main issue is with how the tag results were sorting, and now after realizing it's pulling them from the DB...I realize it's sorting by bib number |
| 01:19 | This...is not going to be fun to try to sort these.. | |
| 01:20 | * jcamins | has a suggestion. |
| 01:20 | * dcook | is all ears. |
| 01:20 | jcamins | Use Koha::RecordProcessor. |
| 01:20 | dcook | Hmm |
| 01:20 | jcamins | Create Koha::Filter::MARC::Tags |
| 01:20 | dcook | We're on 3.8. How much backporting would be required/what does it do? |
| 01:21 | jcamins | Ummm... |
| 01:21 | Neve rmind. | |
| 01:21 | *Never mind | |
| 01:21 | dcook | hehe |
| 01:21 | Is that 3.10 or 3.12? | |
| 01:21 | jcamins | 3.10+ |
| 01:21 | eythian | use it as an excuse to upgrade? |
| 01:21 | jcamins | eythian++ # YES! |
| 01:22 | dcook | eythian: I wish ;) |
| 01:22 | jcamins | Talk about technical debt until the librarians think that they'll have to pay more if they don't upgrade. |
| 01:22 | Win. | |
| 01:22 | dcook | Well, to be honest, it's getting to that point |
| 01:23 | If changes are required for a version older than 3.8, it's not really in anyone's best interest to do that change | |
| 01:23 | As for 3.8...I still have a list of changes to port over to the community codebase... | |
| 01:23 | * dcook | wishes he could clone himself or time travel or just have another 24 hours per day |
| 01:24 | jcamins | You have patches developed on 3.8? |
| 01:24 | dcook | Patches developed on 3.2 |
| 01:24 | jcamins | Ah. That's what I thought. |
| 01:25 | dcook | Then moved over to 3.8 (some made their way to master but some are still on my To Do list) |
| 01:25 | jcamins | Ah-ha. |
| 01:25 | dcook | Still about 30-40 to move from 3.2 to 3.8 potentially... |
| 01:25 | Quite a bit down from the 200+ of last year... | |
| 01:25 | jcamins | Well done! |
| 01:25 | dcook++ | |
| 01:27 | rangi | w |
| 01:27 | heh | |
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| 01:30 | dcook | Thanks, jcamins :) |
| 01:30 | I hope one day to be relatively in line with the community | |
| 01:30 | At least everything new gets developed on master ^_^ | |
| 01:30 | jcamins | :) |
| 01:31 | dcook | Well, maybe not everything. Everything that is more than a local customization. |
| 01:31 | Although anything to avoid those.. | |
| 01:32 | eythian | wahanui: dcook is currently out of line. |
| 01:32 | wahanui | ...but dcook is missing part of that original link due to a smiley face that comes up in dcook's IRC client... |
| 01:32 | eythian | wahanui: dcook is also currently out of line. |
| 01:32 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 01:33 | dcook | hehe |
| 01:33 | At least I'm not out of order | |
| 01:33 | Wait...that is exactly the problem right now.. | |
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| 01:38 | dcook | @karma dcook |
| 01:38 | huginn | dcook: Karma for "dcook" has been increased 23 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 23. |
| 01:38 | dcook | Yay. I done good. |
| 01:38 | jcamins | Nice! |
| 01:44 | @karma jcamins | |
| 01:44 | huginn | jcamins: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 601 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 599. |
| 01:45 | dcook | Very nice! |
| 01:45 | jcamins | Wow. That's a lot of karma. |
| 01:45 | @karma | |
| 01:45 | huginn | jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (832), "oleonard" (717), and "jcamins" (599). Lowest karma: "<!" (-115), "failed" (-103), and "ie" (-94). You (jcamins) are ranked 3 out of 2537. |
| 01:45 | jcamins | Unfortunately, with oleonard working on a new OPAC theme, it seems unlikely that I'll have a chance to catch up. |
| 01:45 | dcook | hehe |
| 01:45 | I don't know about that. I wouldn't be where I am if it weren't for you (and rangi) | |
| 01:46 | @karma | |
| 01:46 | huginn | dcook: Highest karma: "rangi" (832), "oleonard" (717), and "jcamins" (599). Lowest karma: "<!" (-115), "failed" (-103), and "ie" (-94). You (dcook) are ranked 52 out of 2537. |
| 01:46 | dcook | Wow...52 isn't too shabby |
| 01:46 | jcamins | rangi: some of Catalyst's libraries have their own translations, right? How do you handle the translating? |
| 01:48 | eythian | jcamins: at the moment, terribly |
| 01:48 | actually, it depends | |
| 01:48 | if it's to customise the HTML, it has to be reapplied by hand | |
| 01:48 | gmcharlt | eythian: speaking of translations -- woudl it be reasonable to package them? |
| 01:48 | eythian | if it's to customise the language, then just like anything else. |
| 01:48 | gmcharlt: yes | |
| 01:49 | there's a bug around for this | |
| 01:49 | I really really need to get back into it | |
| 01:49 | jcamins | eythian: what I'm thinking about is the "my library wants to change 'cart' to 'binder' (or whatever)" situation. |
| 01:50 | eythian | oh right |
| 01:50 | that's pretty easy | |
| 01:50 | jcamins | Right now Mr. Lazy over here just says "you know what, I don't want to set up a system," and makes the change. |
| 01:50 | gmcharlt | !build 'Koha_master' |
| 01:50 | jcamins | But that's absolutely not the right way to do it. |
| 01:51 | eythian | jcamins: I think you can just take the .po, modify it and rename it as its own language, and away you go. |
| 01:51 | jcamins | Yeah, that's what I'm doing. |
| 01:51 | rangi | !jenkins build koha_master |
| 01:51 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job koha_master build scheduled with a quiet period of 5 seconds |
| 01:51 | jcamins | But the right way to do it is to have a system in place so that librarians can actually modify the "translation" themselves. |
| 01:52 | eythian | ah yeah |
| 01:52 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1262 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1253 1 day 5 hr ago) |
| 01:52 | jcamins | (and then install it manually) |
| 01:52 | gmcharlt | rangi: thanks |
| 01:52 | dcook | jcamins++ |
| 01:52 | eythian | we've been thinking about doing that, but I don't think we actually have it. |
| 01:52 | dcook | I've been thinking about this recently too. I think it's just a plain good idea in terms of overall usability and information system design. |
| 01:53 | gmcharlt | rangi: it was failing that last XISBN test case because of a couple syspref settings in the master database |
| 01:53 | rangi | ahhh |
| 01:53 | dcook | Giving people the ability to modify labels for their particular users and information needs.. |
| 01:53 | jcamins | gmcharlt: XISBN fails around midnight. |
| 01:53 | gmcharlt | SyndeticsEditiosn was on, and the OCLC affililate ID was bad |
| 01:53 | jcamins | Wait, no. |
| 01:53 | Quotes fails around midnight. | |
| 01:53 | Sorry. | |
| 01:53 | Got confused. | |
| 01:53 | gmcharlt | runs fine with no OCLC affiliate ID, which was why it was working just fine for me locally |
| 01:57 | rangi | ahh right that makes sense |
| 02:20 | dcook | jcamins: Was able to modify the get_tags sub slightly to allow sorting tags by title :) |
| 02:20 | jcamins | Well done! |
| 02:21 | dcook | Sure beats trying to do some whacky stuff to try to sort the marc O_o |
| 02:24 | P.S. thanks ^_^ | |
| 02:24 | Oh no...phantom phone vibrations... | |
| 02:24 | It must be wednesday.. | |
| 02:51 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 02:51 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #96: "< owen> If your vendor calls it KOHA you know it's not really Koha." (added by wasabi at 05:56 AM, October 08, 2010) |
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| 03:00 | zebran00b | 'O |
| 03:00 | veoops | |
| 03:00 | heh | |
| 03:00 | need more coffee, brb | |
| 03:03 | I've set the layout, template and profile in Koha 3.12 label creator, and CSV and XML export fine, but PDF export is blank. Is there a PDF creation package I need to have? | |
| 03:06 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 03:06 | Project Koha_master build #1262: FIXED in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1262/ | |
| 03:16 | eythian | so marc8_to_utf8 seems to have stopped working properly for me when I upgraded ubuntu :/ |
| 03:23 | wizzyrea | ohno |
| 03:23 | eythian | or it might be fixlatin actually |
| 03:23 | I'm not sure | |
| 03:25 | * dcook | wonders how anyone ever finds the digital radio program they actually want |
| 03:25 | dcook | The ABC says that "X program" is on right now, but doesn't give you an actual link to listen |
| 03:26 | eythian | > ch. 5. Te Reo M\x{101}ori -- ch. 6. When the Crown controls Matauranga Ma\x{cc}\x{84}ori |
| 03:26 | oh hey, two encodings, one entry in a record. | |
| 03:26 | that's so really helpful. | |
| 03:36 | OK, I think I have finally convinced this to work. | |
| 03:36 | although there are a lot of warnings saying it won't work, and then it does. | |
| 03:37 | dcook | eythian: Turns out...they don't stream that program online |
| 03:37 | It's "statewide" but they don't stream it online O_o | |
| 03:37 | eythian | heh |
| 03:37 | dcook | And it's only broadcast to certain parts of the state |
| 03:37 | So not including Sydney | |
| 03:38 | Or Newcastle, I think | |
| 03:38 | I wonder if that "madder scheme" should be expanded to include radio stations... | |
| 04:08 | Found a station where I can tune in if I put my phone (which has an FM receiver) next to the window ^_^ | |
| 04:08 | I guess it's a good thing that I'm in the middle/south part of the city. | |
| 04:08 | * dcook | pops out for lunch |
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| 04:20 | wj | How to translate? |
| 04:21 | Hello, could anyone please tell me the place where can I translate software strings? | |
| 04:21 | * wj | slaps rangi around a bit with a large fishbot |
| 04:21 | eythian | wahanui: translations |
| 04:21 | wahanui | it has been said that translations is http://translate.koha-community.org/ |
| 04:22 | wj | wahani, my language isn't there |
| 04:22 | how to add it? | |
| 04:22 | I want to do translations on Sinhala (Sri Lanka) | |
| 04:23 | eythian | I'd suggest asking on the koha mailing list, you probably need the translation manager to set up a new language. |
| 04:23 | wj | how? |
| 04:23 | eythian | wahanui: mailing lists |
| 04:23 | wahanui | mailing lists are http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 04:24 | wj | ok, thanks |
| 04:24 | thanks, eythian | |
| 04:24 | eythian | np |
| 04:24 | wj | wahanui: translations |
| 04:24 | wahanui | rumour has it translations is http://translate.koha-community.org/ |
| 04:25 | wj | lol, it's a bot :D |
| 04:25 | wahanui: mailing lists | |
| 04:25 | wahanui | mailing lists are http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 04:25 | eythian | yeah :) |
| 04:25 | wj | wahanui: website |
| 04:25 | wahanui | hmmm... website is http://www.koha-community.org |
| 04:25 | wj | OK, thanks all. I'm leaving. |
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| 05:22 | cait | morning #koha |
| 05:23 | eythian | hello cait |
| 05:23 | wahanui | hello cait are you here? |
| 05:23 | cait | hi eythian :) |
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| 05:51 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 05:51 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 20.9°C (7:13 AM CEST on June 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
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| 05:51 | drojf | oh my |
| 05:51 | good morning #koha | |
| 05:52 | dcook | hey ya drojf |
| 05:52 | Another blistering day? | |
| 05:53 | drojf | looks like it |
| 05:53 | 34°C later. | |
| 05:53 | dcook | Ouch.. |
| 05:54 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 05:54 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (5:00 PM NZST on June 19, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.12 in 986 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:54 | dcook | @wunder sydney, australia |
| 05:54 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 13.0°C (3:30 PM EST on June 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:54 | drojf | people watching obama's speech at brandenburg gate today are not allowed to carry umbrellas/sunshades. for security reasons. that's gonna be a lot of fun |
| 05:55 | dcook | Wow... |
| 05:55 | eythian | we have a gigantic storm set to come through tomorrow I think |
| 05:55 | dcook | eythian: I think we're due for that storm today :/ |
| 05:55 | drojf | i could use a storm. not a gigantic one though |
| 05:55 | dcook | My coat is still a bit damp from last night's deluge |
| 05:56 | Brandenburg gate...that's that huge square that has pretty much nowhere to hide in the shade, right? | |
| 05:59 | drojf | dcook: exactly. imagine that together with 4000 people all trying to see that one guy talking |
| 06:00 | eythian | https://maps.google.com/maps?q[…]uitsland&t=h&z=18 <-- ah yea, I've been there. Not much shade at all. |
| 06:01 | drojf | i guess they will say people went unconscious because obama's speech was overwhelming :P |
| 06:03 | dcook | drojf: lol |
| 06:03 | Nice one, eythian | |
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| 06:06 | dcook | wb cait |
| 06:06 | cait | hi drojf |
| 06:06 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 06:06 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on June 19, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:07 | cait | the thunderstorm did growl last night but did not really reach us :( |
| 06:07 | it's still too warm outside | |
| 06:07 | drojf | hi cait |
| 06:07 | unfortunately i win today | |
| 06:08 | and i have to work in the most unairconditioned workplace i got. right under the roof. happy times | |
| 06:10 | cait | not sure you win |
| 06:10 | we will figure that out later today | |
| 06:10 | i am not under the roof but we are pretty unairconditioned | |
| 06:11 | drojf | ok, you are supposed to get 36° even. we only 34°. congratulations! :P |
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| 06:12 | mveron | Good moning #koha |
| 06:13 | dcook | hey ya mveron |
| 06:13 | Haven't seen you around in ages | |
| 06:13 | drojf | hi mveron :) |
| 06:14 | cait | hi mveron :) |
| 06:15 | mveron | hi cait and drojf |
| 06:15 | :-) | |
| 06:15 | ...and dcook :-) | |
| 06:15 | dcook | ^_^ |
| 06:16 | mveron | dcook: To much work, and we had some changes in our group, mbalmer left... |
| 06:17 | dcook | Dinger :/ |
| 06:21 | mveron | drojf: Question about bug 9972 - Would it be a great deal to add an additional field? |
| 06:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9972 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , Add/ change some zebra indexes (MARC21) (GRS1+DOM) |
| 06:22 | mveron | It is related to a question on the German mailing list, would be great to have 048 as well |
| 06:22 | http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd048.html | |
| 06:23 | drojf | ah nice. i did not get to looking for that yesterday |
| 06:27 | cait | mveron++ :) |
| 06:28 | mveron | With this index they could search after instrumentations, e.g. 2 pianos, 1 choir an 3 organs |
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| 06:37 | cait | i tihnk i am developing that kind of phobia where you can't go outside |
| 06:37 | drojf | oops |
| 06:37 | cait | it's too warm! |
| 06:37 | or it will be soon | |
| 06:37 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 06:37 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 21.5°C (8:35 AM CEST on June 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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| 06:43 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:43 | cait | bbl :) |
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| 06:56 | drojf | see you later #koha |
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| 07:13 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:13 | wahanui | bonjour, gaetan_B |
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| 07:40 | kf | hi all |
| 07:43 | mveron | Hi again, kf |
| 07:43 | kf | :) |
| 07:44 | mveron++ | |
| 07:44 | mveron | I discussed the instrumentation question with drojf, he would add fiel 048 to Bug 9972 |
| 07:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9972 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , Add/ change some zebra indexes (MARC21) (GRS1+DOM) |
| 07:45 | kf | drojf++ too :) |
| 07:45 | mveron | :-) |
| 07:45 | kf | yay for the german speaking koha community :) |
| 07:49 | mveron | Bye #Koha |
| 07:50 | kf | bye mveron... |
| 07:50 | too slow | |
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| 08:16 | samueld | hi everybody |
| 08:17 | kf | hi samueld |
| 08:17 | samueld | does someone know a tool or a script to convert a file in iso2709, I've made an extract of a table and need to convert it in a marc file. |
| 08:17 | kf | i think a lot of people are using marcedit |
| 08:18 | but there is also a tool from robin to convert csv to marc in the repo I think | |
| 08:19 | samueld | ooh, i would be interested by the robin 's tool |
| 08:19 | :-) | |
| 08:22 | magnuse | i think maybe have a look at http://gitorious.org/koha-toolbox |
| 08:23 | it says bywater, but it looks like robin has been pushing to it? | |
| 08:23 | rangi | https://gitorious.org/+catalys[…]migration-toolbox |
| 08:23 | that one is the most up to date | |
| 08:23 | magnuse | ah, ok |
| 08:24 | rangi | https://gitorious.org/+catalys[…]eric/csvtomarc.pl |
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| 08:28 | magnuse | rangi: how's your "star rating project thingy" coming along? |
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| 08:35 | rangi | its nearly done |
| 08:35 | probably one more weekends worth | |
| 08:35 | http://ratings.koha-community.org/ | |
| 08:45 | kf | yay |
| 08:45 | rangi++ | |
| 08:45 | sorry work :) | |
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| 08:59 | magnuse | w00t! |
| 08:59 | rangi++ | |
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| 10:00 | vfernandes | hi :) |
| 10:01 | after upgrading from 3.0 to 3.10 i'm having some little problems | |
| 10:02 | kf | did you run the script to remove items from the amrcß |
| 10:02 | from MARC? | |
| 10:02 | vfernandes | not yet |
| 10:02 | kf | it's the most common thing missed :) |
| 10:02 | vfernandes | it's the next step |
| 10:02 | kf | what are the problems you have? |
| 10:02 | vfernandes | http://diana.lnec.pt |
| 10:03 | the languages doesn't have descrptions? | |
| 10:03 | kf | hm werid |
| 10:03 | those come from a table in mysql | |
| 10:04 | did you rerun the translation scripts after the update? | |
| 10:04 | vfernandes | which table? |
| 10:04 | wahanui | which table is the barcode stored? |
| 10:04 | kf | language_descriptions would be my guess |
| 10:05 | vfernandes | only have 4 entries |
| 10:05 | kf | oh |
| 10:05 | i have 135 | |
| 10:06 | no idea what went wrong there | |
| 10:06 | but if you want to fix it - make sure you pick the sql file from the en directory | |
| 10:06 | it's the most complete | |
| 10:09 | vfernandes | in which folder? |
| 10:09 | kf | in the installer fiels |
| 10:10 | vfernandes | installer/data/mysql/en? |
| 10:13 | can't find the correct SQL | |
| 10:16 | subtag_registry.sql found it :) | |
| 10:18 | first problem solved. | |
| 10:19 | kf | subscriptions show up now? :) |
| 10:19 | vfernandes | yes! second problem: when indexing - No such record type dom./..../etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/dom-config-marc.xml |
| 10:20 | the same for authorities | |
| 10:20 | No such record type dom./etc/zebradb/authorities/etc/dom-config-marc.xml | |
| 10:20 | kf | hm not sure about that |
| 10:20 | did you switch to dom indexing on update? | |
| 10:21 | vfernandes | when installing koha I choose dom |
| 10:22 | kf | hm not sure why the errors occur |
| 10:22 | oh | |
| 10:22 | what kind of installation did you do? | |
| 10:22 | and we formerly supported only dom indexing for authorities, not bilbiographic | |
| 10:22 | so there has something changed there between 3.0 and later | |
| 10:23 | did you update or import your database into a newer installation? | |
| 10:23 | vfernandes | clean install, database imported from other server |
| 10:24 | kf | hm ok |
| 10:24 | sorry, you might have to ask someone else about that problem | |
| 10:24 | vfernandes | I can try with grs1 indexing |
| 10:35 | kf which is the scrip to remove items form MARC? | |
| 10:35 | kf | sorry, have to eat pizza now |
| 10:35 | it's called something with remove | |
| 10:35 | probably somewhere in misc | |
| 10:36 | vfernandes | with GRS1 - No such record type: grs.marcxml.record |
| 10:36 | maybe something is wrong with my zebra | |
| 10:36 | kf | you didn't do a package installation, did you? |
| 10:36 | vfernandes | no |
| 10:36 | kf | did you check the paths it gives you? is the file there? |
| 10:36 | does the file have the right permission? | |
| 10:37 | vfernandes | i'm everything with sudo |
| 10:37 | kf | sorr,y have to eat lunch with the coworker now |
| 10:37 | vfernandes | *i'm running |
| 10:37 | kf | hm you shouldn't sudo run zebra |
| 10:37 | vfernandes | ok thanks kf |
| 10:37 | kf | use the koha user |
| 10:37 | your file permissions might be messed up | |
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| 12:21 | chris_n | jcamins: http://tinyurl.com/3mz4hub |
| 12:21 | jcamins | chris_n: oooooh. |
| 12:22 | kf | oooooh |
| 12:22 | chris_n | recommended by a friend yesterday; I plan on trying them this weekend |
| 12:22 | jcamins | If I had bacon, I would try them right now. |
| 12:22 | It's nice and cool today, bizarrely. | |
| 12:23 | chris_n | here too; lots of rain last evening |
| 12:24 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 12:24 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.1°C (2:20 PM CEST on June 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
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| 12:40 | jcamins | wtf is with the insistence that 001 is OCLC# in face of the incontrovertible fact that if it is, that is merely happenstance? |
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| 12:43 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:55 | kf | morning tcohen |
| 12:57 | tcohen | hi kf |
| 12:57 | our university is turning 400 years today | |
| 12:57 | so its a short working day for us | |
| 12:58 | magnuse | yay! |
| 13:01 | 400 is not a bad age | |
| 13:03 | kf | ooh |
| 13:03 | next year would be cool and then have kohacon in argentina! | |
| 13:03 | maybe 401? :) | |
| 13:04 | magnuse | sounds good to me! |
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| 13:06 | magnuse | heh ~36 hours travel time |
| 13:06 | but prices are not that crazy it seems | |
| 13:06 | jcamins | magnuse: to Argentina? |
| 13:06 | tcohen | and we are awesome of course :-P |
| 13:07 | magnuse | jcamins: yup |
| 13:07 | from oslo | |
| 13:07 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 13:07 | kf | tcohen: of course you are :) |
| 13:07 | tcohen: btw bgkriegel was great and fixed the problem :) | |
| 13:09 | jcamins | 15 hours, surprisingly affordable. |
| 13:09 | tcohen | for me its 1500 US$ to attend to Reno |
| 13:10 | magnuse | tcohen: wow, that was ~the lowest prices i found from oslo to cordoba! |
| 13:12 | tcohen | are bids for kohacon14 open yet? |
| 13:13 | magnuse | it was a topic at the latest meeting, but i have not read the log yet... |
| 13:14 | kf | tcohen: yes :) |
| 13:14 | drofj sent an email about that a few days ago | |
| 13:15 | * magnuse | is way behind in reading the list |
| 13:16 | magnuse | drojf++ |
| 13:16 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Con2014_Proposals | |
| 13:17 | vfernandes | I solve the problems with the indexation that I had this morning |
| 13:17 | but now when searching authorities I get this error | |
| 13:17 | Search authorities ERROR 114 | |
| 13:17 | what that means? | |
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| 13:19 | tcohen | thanks magnuse |
| 13:23 | jcamins | As I recall, ERROR 114 is unsupported Use attribute. |
| 13:24 | vfernandes | Search authorities ERROR 114 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @or @attr 1=Heading @attr 7=1 0 @and @attr 5=100 @attr 1=authtype AUTORES @attr 4=6 @attr 5=1 @attr 1=Any a |
| 13:24 | This is the error that I get | |
| 13:24 | jcamins | Yeah, that's unsupported Use attribute. |
| 13:25 | vfernandes | how to solve it? |
| 13:25 | i'm using OPAC interface to searhc | |
| 13:25 | jcamins | Update your Zebra configuration files, restart Zebra, and reindex. |
| 13:25 | vfernandes | update Zebra configuration? record.abs? |
| 13:26 | jcamins | All your configuration files. |
| 13:26 | kf | probably same problem as this morning l |
| 13:26 | what did you do to solve it? | |
| 13:26 | jcamins | You may have stale configuration files. |
| 13:27 | vfernandes | the problem this morning was that the configuration files had /usr/lib/ instead of /usr/lib64/ |
| 13:28 | could be some field missing in the authorities? | |
| 13:28 | jcamins | No. |
| 13:29 | vfernandes | I don't know what to do |
| 13:32 | looking at authorities/etc/bib1.att there isn't a attr 7 | |
| 13:33 | jcamins | That's sorting. |
| 13:33 | vfernandes | so this @attr 7=1 0 doesn't look right |
| 13:33 | jcamins | Yes it does. |
| 13:33 | The problem is authtype or Any. | |
| 13:34 | Or Heading, I suppose. | |
| 13:34 | vfernandes | I don't even know where to look |
| 13:35 | jcamins | Unfortunately troubleshooting this sort of problem isn't really simple. |
| 13:35 | In my experience, though, the problem always comes down to having configuration files from older versions. | |
| 13:36 | vfernandes | this is a clean installation |
| 13:36 | jcamins | Entirely clean? |
| 13:36 | vfernandes | yes |
| 13:36 | jcamins | That's very weird. I've never seen that at all. |
| 13:36 | vfernandes | the database was imported from a 2.2.8 Koha |
| 13:37 | kf | vfernandes: didn't you say 3.0? |
| 13:37 | vfernandes | 2.2.8 -> 3.0 -> 3.10 |
| 13:37 | jcamins | And the 3.0 upgrade was on a different system? |
| 13:38 | Very peculiar. | |
| 13:38 | vfernandes | yes... but I've never tested indexation and searching... I only followed http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Upgrading_2.2 |
| 13:39 | after upgrading the database to 3.0 I've imported it to a system with koha 3.10 | |
| 13:41 | tcohen | that sounds good vfernandes |
| 13:41 | and you didn't touch the zebradb files from that 3.10 setup, right? | |
| 13:43 | vfernandes | only zebra-authorities-dom.cfg and zebra-biblios-dom.cfg : "modulePath: /usr/lib/idzebra-2.0/modules" -> modulePath: /usr/lib64/idzebra-2.0/modules |
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| 13:44 | vfernandes | server : http://diana.lnec.pt |
| 13:45 | tcohen | wahanui: kohacon14 proposals is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Con2014_Proposals |
| 13:45 | wahanui | OK, tcohen. |
| 13:46 | vfernandes | I found one problem with my authorities |
| 13:46 | the authority code is mapped to 942$b instead of 942$a | |
| 13:47 | could be this? | |
| 13:47 | jcamins | That's definitely a problem, but it's unlikely to cause this error. |
| 13:47 | vfernandes | melm 942$a authtype:w,authtype:p |
| 13:48 | authtype is mapped to that field | |
| 13:48 | tcohen | you shouldn't need that adjustment vfernandes, as lib is a symbolic link to lib64 on x64_64 setups |
| 13:48 | vfernandes | if the field isn't filled in any authorities could give the error |
| 13:49 | jcamins | vfernandes: you should definitely fix it. With luck, perhaps it will fix the problem. |
| 13:49 | vfernandes | ok |
| 13:49 | jcamins | I don't use UNIMARC, and when I have, I've always found that the Zebra configuration is much more brittle. |
| 13:49 | vfernandes | i'm using MARC21 :P |
| 13:49 | jcamins | Really? I thought you used UNIMARC. |
| 13:49 | In that case, why are you using GRS-1? | |
| 13:50 | You should never ever use GRS-1 for authorities with MARC21. | |
| 13:50 | It's been deprecated since 3.2. | |
| 13:50 | vfernandes | normally I use UNIMARC, but in this installation i'm using MARC21 and DOM configuration |
| 13:51 | jcamins | Ah. |
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| 13:58 | vfernandes | i will try a new DB importing with 942 corrected |
| 14:09 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 14:10 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 30.6°C (4:05 PM CEST on June 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:19 | magnuse | kf: barely above 30? pffft... ;-) |
| 14:20 | kf | it feels hotter |
| 14:21 | Oak | @wunder islamabad |
| 14:21 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 35.0°C (7:00 PM PKT on June 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:25 | magnuse | Oak |
| 14:25 | Oak | magnuse |
| 14:25 | :) | |
| 14:26 | magnuse | :-) |
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| 14:29 | kf | hi Oak |
| 14:29 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 14:29 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.3°C (4:25 PM CEST on June 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:29 | Oak | hey kf :) |
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| 15:01 | datadoctor | Working on text messaging our notifications. Hard-coded options make it difficult to configure notification settings. Defining Tools>Notices & Slips to SMS hold notices requires hard-coding a HOLD_SMS category. Options like texting a checkout confirmation appear to be impossible. |
| 15:05 | jcamins | datadoctor: I think there's a patch that improves the way notices work. |
| 15:06 | datadoctor: hey, you don't happen to know whether there is any sort of barcode prefix registry in Ohio, do you? Or who I'd contact to ask if there were? | |
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| 15:08 | jcamins | datadoctor: bug 3367 |
| 15:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3367 normal, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Overdue Rules not processed for patrons with checkouts more than 90 days overdue. |
| 15:08 | jcamins | No, definitely not that one. |
| 15:08 | datadoctor: bug 9021 | |
| 15:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9021 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add SMS via email as an alternative to SMS services via SMS::Send drivers |
| 15:09 | jcamins | And bug 9296 |
| 15:09 | wahanui | bug 9296 is, like, mine but that's less radical |
| 15:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9296 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Failed QA , overduerules table needs restructuring to allow future extension |
| 15:12 | datadoctor | jcamins: I am not aware of any Ohio barcode prefixes. We don't use a custom prefix. |
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| 15:17 | jwagner | jcamins, there is a barcode registry, but I don't think it's by state. What are you looking for? |
| 15:18 | jcamins | jwagner: I'm trying to make a list of states that have their own registries instead of or on top of the Infor national registry. |
| 15:18 | jwagner | We just send our sites to the National Barcode Registry |
| 15:19 | jcamins | The one maintained by Infor, right? Or is there another one, too? |
| 15:19 | jwagner | I think that's it. |
| 15:19 | jcamins | Thanks. That's the one I've been using. |
| 15:21 | Some states maintain their own registry, apparently. Massachusetts has a state-wide registry and gets assignments from the national registry. Georgia PINES does not use the national registry at all. | |
| 15:21 | So I'm making a list. | |
| 15:21 | jwagner | good luck :-) |
| 15:22 | datadoctor | We currently use this tool to display our messaging preferences: http://koha.smfpl.org/cgi-bin/[…]test/messaging.pl |
| 15:22 | jcamins | jwagner: I'm going to need it. |
| 15:23 | datadoctor: custom script? | |
| 15:23 | datadoctor | Oops- I am realizing that link won't get one into the staff side |
| 15:23 | Yes, it's a custom tool to read the messaging preferences. | |
| 15:26 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1263 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 15:26 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9307: (follow-up) help text tweaks <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]99853e2779e475423> / Bug 9307: QA Followup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]da91b9d9332261976> / Bug 9307 - Allow libraries to add/edit status for suggestion management. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]diff;h=490688ea53 |
| 15:37 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:43 | datadoctor | Posting messaging perl script and output template: http://pastebin.com/knaAJp9y |
| 15:44 | And http://pastebin.com/RxDDBQAh | |
| 15:44 | Together these read out your messaging preferences in detail. | |
| 15:47 | My understanding is that the "letter code" is hard-coded, so it does not allow sms notifications to be added through the koha staff interface - they must be added to the database directly. | |
| 15:48 | For example, adding a HOLDS_SMS to the message_transports table. | |
| 15:48 | Has to be done manually | |
| 15:51 | jcamins | Right. Usually you'd add it with a patch. |
| 15:53 | datadoctor | thanks that makes sense. I will try to document a patch.... |
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| 16:21 | vfernandes | jcamins |
| 16:22 | changing 942$b to 942$a solve the problem | |
| 16:22 | jcamins | vfernandes: yay! |
| 16:23 | vfernandes | now I have a error indexing records :D |
| 16:23 | this is killing me... LOL | |
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| 16:24 | vfernandes | [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) -> field 999 missing :/ |
| 16:24 | jcamins | You are missing bib numbers. |
| 16:29 | vfernandes | yes I know |
| 16:30 | jcamins | Or, if the error is on authorities, your authids ended up somewhere weird. |
| 16:30 | The authid should be in 001. | |
| 16:30 | vfernandes | the error is in bibliographic records... |
| 16:30 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 16:30 | * jcamins | will let you fix the problem now. ;) |
| 16:42 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1263: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1263/ |
| 16:42 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9307 - Allow libraries to add/edit status for suggestion management. | |
| 16:42 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9307: QA Followup | |
| 16:42 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 9307: (follow-up) help text tweaks | |
| 16:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9307 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow libraries to add/edit status for suggestion management. |
| 16:47 | datadoctor | I reformulated the messaging.pl and messaging.tt as a patch. |
| 16:47 | http://pastebin.com/eDz5USKB | |
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| 16:51 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7110: Renewal messages no longer displays in OPAC if OpacRenewalAllowed is disabled <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e272ad4dca2575a80> |
| 16:51 | nengard | anyone around who knows style stuff? |
| 16:51 | I'm wondering what code controls the color of the gray around the search box in ccsr | |
| 16:51 | i tried firebug but i can't find it | |
| 16:51 | gmcharlt | if anybody has Koha master running on MySQL 5.5 or MariaDB 5.5, I'd be curious to know if t/db_dependent/HoldsQueue.t is passing for you; ditto if you're running master on MySQL 5.1 |
| 16:51 | pianohacker | uh, hi libsysguy :) |
| 16:52 | libsysguy | heya pianohacker |
| 16:52 | wahanui | i think pianohacker is a brilliant young whooper-snapper. |
| 16:52 | jcamins | gmcharlt: checking now. |
| 16:52 | It fails. | |
| 16:53 | gmcharlt | nengard: form#searchform, around line 135 of the CCSR colors.css |
| 16:53 | pastebot | "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "HoldsQueue.t under MariaDB 5.5" (42 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/73 |
| 16:53 | nengard | gmcharlt when i change that it changes only the bottom of the gray |
| 16:53 | that's what i thought it was ... | |
| 16:53 | gmcharlt | nengard: I find Chrome/Chromium's developer tools very hand for track this sort of thing down |
| 16:53 | jcamins | gmcharlt: however, I'm pretty sure it used to pass. |
| 16:54 | gmcharlt | jcamins: it passes on jenkins, which runs MySQL 5.1 |
| 16:54 | jcamins | gmcharlt: I think it used to pass on my system as well. |
| 16:55 | Actually, I see why it is failing, and I bet I can fix it. | |
| 16:56 | I mean, on my system. | |
| 16:56 | gmcharlt | nengard: looks like bg-search-bar.png is being used to provide the color, by default, rather than plain CSS |
| 16:57 | nengard | oh! |
| 16:57 | gmcharlt | so form#searchform { background: COLOR; } should suffice to override it |
| 16:57 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1264 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:57 | gmcharlt | jcamins: which tests are failing? |
| 16:58 | jcamins | gmcharlt: take from lowest cost branch (don't use cost matrix) holding branch |
| 16:58 | I suspect it's because dfa is lower case. | |
| 16:58 | gmcharlt | jcamins: yep, I've got a similar situation where my DB has an 'abc' library |
| 16:58 | sounds like the MySQL version is a red herring | |
| 16:59 | jcamins | Hm. I can't chang ethe code. |
| 16:59 | Okay, well, I think it's because of the lower case. | |
| 17:00 | gmcharlt | hmm |
| 17:00 | still failing for me after removing my 'abc' branch | |
| 17:01 | jcamins | Hrm. So much for that theory. |
| 17:02 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: Would you like me to test in MySQL 5.5? |
| 17:02 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: actually, 5.1 if you could |
| 17:02 | if it works for you, I can send you a dump of my current test database | |
| 17:03 | pianohacker | Hmm, on the mysql 5.1 machine I have access to, I don't have access to create a new DB |
| 17:03 | apologies :/ | |
| 17:04 | jcamins | gmcharlt: if you want it tested on 5.1, I can do that. |
| 17:04 | gmcharlt | jcamins: that would be great |
| 17:05 | pianohacker: thanks for checking | |
| 17:05 | jcamins | I have been terribly spoiled by my development server. |
| 17:05 | I no longer remember how I stood using Koha in this VM. | |
| 17:06 | cait | jcamins: i know that problem |
| 17:06 | jcamins | Hm. Test failures here too. |
| 17:09 | pastebot | "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Failures on 5.1 instance" (128 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/74 |
| 17:09 | gmcharlt | jcamins: yep, same two tests are failing for me |
| 17:10 | jcamins | I think that must be data, because that's under Squeeze with all the Squeeze versions of packages. |
| 17:10 | gmcharlt | agreed, it's smelling like a data-dependent issue |
| 17:13 | found a clue -- passes if you turn off AutomaticItemReturn | |
| 17:14 | ah | |
| 17:14 | must be assuming that the starting state is AutomaticItemReturn off | |
| 17:16 | OK, that gives me what I need to write a patch | |
| 17:16 | jcamins | Yay! |
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| 17:17 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 17:19 | cait | gmcharlt++ |
| 17:19 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 17:19 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 31.0°C (7:00 PM CEST on June 19, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). |
| 17:20 | magnuse | wow, at 7 in the evening, even |
| 17:21 | cait: that's not normal, right? | |
| 17:21 | cait | it's quite hot yeah |
| 17:21 | very suddenly so | |
| 17:21 | that's most of the problem i guess | |
| 17:21 | and it's super hot at work :( | |
| 17:22 | my apartment is nice, so I fled and went home early | |
| 17:22 | mtompset | Greetings, cait magnuse. |
| 17:22 | Has anybody here used OpacHiddenItems? | |
| 17:23 | Is there a way to hide items based on the user logged in? | |
| 17:24 | pianohacker | answered confusing questions about it? Yes. Used it? Lord no |
| 17:24 | cait | mtompset: no |
| 17:24 | pianohacker | mtompset: To my knowledge it can only make that decision based on the contents of the record |
| 17:24 | cait | mtompset: you can use everything that is in the items table tho |
| 17:24 | pianohacker | If you're trying to avoid mucking with the code, I'd recommend jQuery hackery |
| 17:24 | magnuse | cait: working from home sounds like a good idea, then, if you can |
| 17:25 | cait | yeah it would be certainly easier |
| 17:26 | nengard | jquery help :) I want to rename the log in box ... and I'm missing something (maybe capitalization again): |
| 17:26 | $("#auth legend:contains('Log in to Your Account')").text("Log in to your library account"); | |
| 17:26 | mtompset | I'm just trying to figure out if there is the possibility of hiding items from an OPAC search from one category of patron, but not another. |
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| 17:27 | pianohacker | oy. that'd be even harder, and I don't know if you can do that in jQuery |
| 17:27 | jcamins | mtompset: there is not with the current code. |
| 17:28 | mtompset | would a patch that did that likely make it into the code base? |
| 17:28 | pianohacker | mtompset: A small patch to expose certain patron attributes as a small JavaScript object on the OPAC would be useful |
| 17:28 | jcamins | mtompset: depends how you did it. |
| 17:28 | cait | pianohacker: hm wonder about the privacy of doing this |
| 17:28 | nengard | pianohacker that was to mtopset not me right? (the jquery comment) |
| 17:29 | mtompset | probably, nengard. :) |
| 17:29 | nengard | whew |
| 17:29 | pianohacker | cait: It would only be exposed to logged in users |
| 17:29 | nengard | was gonna say, i know it's not that hard to do what i want |
| 17:29 | pianohacker | nengard: one sec, testing |
| 17:29 | nengard | :) |
| 17:29 | cait | probably jsut being a bit careful :) |
| 17:29 | mtompset | cait: That's a good thing! |
| 17:30 | pianohacker | nengard: Yeah, capitalization. Change "Your Account" to "your account" |
| 17:30 | mtompset | The problem with doing it in JavaScript, pianohacker, would be that the dataset would still be passed, as far as I know. |
| 17:30 | nengard | yup |
| 17:31 | mtompset | And that sort of defeats the purpose. You don't want data leaking. |
| 17:31 | pianohacker | quick debugging tip: you can paste the first part of that ( $("#auth legend:contains('Log in to your account')") ) into the Web Console in the Firefox developer tools, and the length: property will tell you if it matched any elements |
| 17:31 | plus you can fine-tune your selector right there | |
| 17:31 | mtompset: leaking to who? | |
| 17:31 | jcamins | mtompset: I still think you should find a way to make bug 9055 work for you, assuming the code is good. |
| 17:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, Patch doesn't apply , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod |
| 17:32 | pianohacker | mtompset: Oh, the data of the books themselves. Hmm |
| 17:32 | Plus doing in JS would screw up the pagination a bit | |
| 17:32 | mtompset | Right... no leaking books. |
| 17:33 | jcamins | Or don't try to use technology to solve a policy problem. |
| 17:33 | Actually, that last is my preferred solution. | |
| 17:33 | pianohacker | Step 1: Convince the librarian that it's a policy problem |
| 17:35 | jcamins | pianohacker: one technique for doing that is coming back and saying "it can't be done, what about changing the policy to not be mental?" |
| 17:36 | gmcharlt | bug 10495 |
| 17:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10495 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , t/db_dependent/HoldsQueue.t can fail unnecessarily |
| 17:37 | cait | mtompset: maybe if they want all their own things they shouldn't be in one koha installation together? |
| 17:37 | mtompset | Hmmm... bug 9055 looks like it has potential. |
| 17:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, Patch doesn't apply , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod |
| 17:37 | pianohacker | jcamins: Heh, yeah, have used that often. bit of a gamble but sometimes works |
| 17:38 | mtompset | jcamins: I understand why you say don't use technology to solve a policy problem. |
| 17:38 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 17:38 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 17:38 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 32.8°C (7:13 PM CEST on June 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:38 | drojf | meh |
| 17:38 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 17:38 | meh. | |
| 17:38 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 28.4°C (7:35 PM CEST on June 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:38 | cait | that's a lie! |
| 17:38 | @wunder Singen | |
| 17:38 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Schaffhausen, Schaffhausen, Germany is 29.4°C (7:37 PM CEST on June 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:39 | cait | hm |
| 17:39 | must be a lie. can't trust it and go outside. | |
| 17:39 | mtompset | cait: It isn't a matter of wanting their own things. It's a matter of certain items in certain countries could have serious negative impacts, and only trusted sources should know. |
| 17:39 | cait | um. |
| 17:39 | pianohacker | mtompset: What on earth kind of library are you working with? |
| 17:39 | drojf | you are cataloguing secret things? |
| 17:39 | * drojf | and the nsa listen in |
| 17:40 | mtompset | Let's use a completely hypothetical situation. |
| 17:41 | Country X hates religion Y. | |
| 17:41 | Library A is in country X and has items in their catalogue related to religion Y. | |
| 17:43 | Now generally, local officials don't care about libraries, but if religion Y hater P finds out that there is such items in Library A. Library A could find itself burned down, staff killed, etc. etc. (super worst case scenario) | |
| 17:43 | pianohacker | .... O_o |
| 17:43 | jcamins | mtompset: yes, and you know how we deal with that when they're walking around the campus with AK-47s? We don't put the book in the catalog. |
| 17:43 | pianohacker | no shit |
| 17:44 | Or separate internal Koha install | |
| 17:44 | jcamins | This is a separate issue from the branch access issue that you were asking about before, though. |
| 17:44 | gmcharlt | or create a second catalog -- it's easier to secure an entirely separate Koha installation than to secure a mixed database |
| 17:44 | pianohacker | yes |
| 17:45 | mtompset | Okay, but then let's complicate the scenario. |
| 17:46 | Country X2 has a language similar to Country X. And said materials would be useful for person P2 to know about. | |
| 17:46 | But P2 is in country X2 and not country X. | |
| 17:47 | pianohacker | The internal OPAC could have anonymous access disabled and passwords given to certain people |
| 17:47 | but at some point you're facing a really sharp accessibility-versus-danger curve | |
| 17:47 | mtompset | Okay, this is where the SAML stuff I'm working on comes it. |
| 17:48 | drojf | not the answer anyone is searching for, but if people are able to access the online catalog, i would provide them with a copy of a tor enabled operating system and a hidden service with scans if these books |
| 17:48 | mtompset | I have an Identification Provider than knows if P2 is a partner or if P2 is part of the corporation. |
| 17:48 | drojf | s/if/of |
| 17:49 | mtompset | partners should not see hidden materials. |
| 17:49 | members of the corporation should. | |
| 17:50 | ^than^that^ | |
| 17:51 | Anyways... that's the type of conversations I'm in the midst of right now. | |
| 17:52 | pianohacker | I love when technology discussions involve legally dangerous territory, truly I do :) |
| 17:52 | sorry you're involved in that. | |
| 18:12 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1264: SUCCESS in 1 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1264/ |
| 18:12 | Owen Leonard: Bug 7110: Renewal messages no longer displays in OPAC if OpacRenewalAllowed is disabled | |
| 18:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7110 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Renewal messages still displays in OPAC if OpacRenewalAllowed is disabled. |
| 18:14 | pianohacker | http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]of-tight-coupling |
| 18:14 | aka, trying to change circulation behavior | |
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| 18:33 | chris_n | pianohacker: LOL |
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| 18:41 | cait | libsysguy is missing us again.. :) |
| 18:41 | libsysguy | yeah,I'm back and fourth on meetings |
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| 18:57 | gmcharlt | cait: chris_n: I'd like to call your attention to the comment I just added to bug 5366 |
| 18:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5366 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , Koha does not work right with MariaDB |
| 18:58 | * cait | checks |
| 18:58 | cait | oooh as we are talking database |
| 18:59 | i have filed a bug about finescap - could someone take a quick look at the sql i posted there maybe? | |
| 18:59 | bug 10490 | |
| 18:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10490 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Overdue fines cap (amount) in circulation rules is saved incorrectly (rounded) |
| 19:00 | cait | gmcharlt: nice - so it looks like mariadb could be an easy switch? |
| 19:01 | gmcharlt | cait: and quite possibly Percona, too |
| 19:05 | cait | very nice :) |
| 19:06 | drojf | gmcharlt: would it make sense to have patches on the bugtracker that are not supposed to go into koha (because they are not generic enough), but might be useful for some users? eg. http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]oha_and_old_books describes the use of MARC 901 + 902 specific to a part of switzerland. if they had a patch for that, could that be in bugzilla so others can find it? |
| 19:06 | cait | hm maybe it could be a branch even? |
| 19:06 | might be easier to deal with | |
| 19:07 | gmcharlt | drojf: yeah, my inclination would be more storing them in Git repos on git.k-c.org |
| 19:07 | e.g., the contrib/global repository | |
| 19:08 | drojf | ah yes that makes sense |
| 19:08 | thanks | |
| 19:12 | chris_n | gmcharlt: comment posted |
| 19:15 | gmcharlt | chris_n: thanks |
| 19:15 | cait: comment added to your bug | |
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| 19:19 | cait | gmcharlt: thx! |
| 19:19 | gmcharlt: i will try to work out a patch - it's rather annoying for us... our libraries have kind of standardized on 4.50 | |
| 19:20 | so it's a blocker right now | |
| 19:25 | gmcharlt | cait: an easy one to fix, forutnately |
| 19:25 | cait | yeah, just a time problem on my side |
| 19:25 | as always | |
| 19:26 | maybe tomorrow | |
| 19:28 | gmcharlt | what, haven't I pushed the patch for b ug 666666666: grant one more hour per day to each Koha contributor ? |
| 19:29 | pianohacker | oh lordy please |
| 19:30 | gmcharlt | rangi: how difficult would it be to add jenkins slaves? |
| 19:31 | jcamins | Noooo! An error occurred when I tried to watch a video of a new tie knot! |
| 19:38 | Okay, none of these knots work at all with regular ties. I don't believe that those are regular ties he has. | |
| 19:38 | drojf | fake tie video performer ties? that's outrageous! |
| 19:39 | cait | can we have 10? |
| 19:39 | hours? | |
| 19:42 | pianohacker | jcamins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YznKoRMq04 |
| 19:42 | jcamins | I found a tie that worked. |
| 19:42 | pianohacker: yeah, that's one of the ties I'm trying to get away from. | |
| 19:43 | pianohacker | heh. because of showy complication, or... ? |
| 19:43 | jcamins | Because it's too normal. |
| 19:43 | I wear an Eldredge or Trinity every day. | |
| 19:43 | pianohacker | hahahahaha oh man |
| 19:43 | what are you going for, then? | |
| 19:43 | jcamins | If I'm going to keep my reputation for unusual neckwear, I need to step it up. |
| 19:43 | Orrr... wear my ascot! | |
| 19:44 | :D | |
| 19:44 | mtompset | Next, we'll be calling you Fred, jcamins. :P |
| 19:44 | jcamins | This is the knot I just tied: http://www.youtube.com/watch?f[…]ded&v=z5sWQNWzsCk |
| 19:45 | * jcamins | likes to think he pulls off unusual neckware with panache and style. |
| 19:46 | jcamins | Though if I manage _impressive_ goofiness, that'd work too. |
| 19:46 | But I live in New York, so "dressing goofily" is nearly impossible, in comparison. | |
| 19:46 | pianohacker | If you have a stoner friend with a great dane, I swear to god |
| 19:46 | jcamins | lol |
| 19:46 | Nope. I can't stand dogs. | |
| 19:47 | rangi | gmcharlt: trivially easy, i used to have my machine here as a slave |
| 19:47 | pianohacker | ah. okay. you're a bond villain. nooooow we're on the same page |
| 19:47 | rangi | gmcharlt: i just need an passphrase less ssh key |
| 19:48 | gmcharlt | rangi: cool -- what I have in mind is one that uses MariaDB 5.5 |
| 19:48 | rangi | good plan |
| 19:49 | i had one that was buidling the packages | |
| 19:49 | and then another doing in install, and running mechanize tests | |
| 19:49 | http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/master_install/ | |
| 19:50 | that used to run on workbuffer.org (my machine) | |
| 19:51 | http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]etedBuild/console | |
| 19:51 | was quite useful | |
| 19:51 | but yeah more slaves would be good, and more mechanize tests :) | |
| 19:52 | * rangi | has to take kids to school soon |
| 19:53 | cait | http://www.youtube.com/watch?f[…]R=1&v=gUVBQ00iwTI < has a cape - looks right for someone with superlibrairan permissions :) |
| 19:53 | that was for jcamins of course | |
| 19:54 | jcamins | cait: that was the one I wanted to do before I settled on the one I did. The problem is it requires a wider tie. |
| 19:56 | cait | too bad |
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| 20:09 | pianohacker | ties <- the classy way for people who enjoy tying nots to have fun :) |
| 20:12 | cait | hm thought sailing was for those :) |
| 20:20 | drojf | i think i have never worn a tie and i don't intend to do so |
| 20:20 | i enjoy #koha tie talk though. no idea why. :) | |
| 20:24 | pianohacker | cait: That's for people who enjoy tying functional knots under pressure, not pretty knots with all the time in the world :) |
| 20:26 | gmcharlt | if one is using a sailor's knot for one's cravet, one is almost certainly making a mistake! ;) |
| 20:26 | *cravat | |
| 20:27 | pianohacker | "Well yah my tie may be ugly but she can hold up in the fiercest storm I tell you what" |
| 20:28 | cait | pianohacker: aaah, i understand :) |
| 20:28 | * cait | has never worn a tie either |
| 20:28 | cait | ;) |
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| 20:29 | cait | sorry, slow reader tonight... |
| 20:40 | * mtompset | smirks, "Jesus never wore a tie." |
| 20:40 | mtompset | Well, I'm off. Thanks for the feedback guys. |
| 20:40 | Have a great day (24 hour period) | |
| 20:43 | drojf | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BN[…]UAA_Mn2.jpg:large :D |
| 21:18 | good night #koha | |
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| 22:19 | eythian | hi |
| 22:28 | cait | hi eythian |
| 22:28 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 22:28 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 20.4°C (12:25 AM CEST on June 20, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:29 | eythian | hello cait |
| 22:29 | wahanui | hello cait are you here? |
| 22:29 | eythian | that's far too warm for that time of day |
| 22:29 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 22:29 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on June 20, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.00 in 982 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:29 | eythian | preferable to that though I suppose |
| 22:29 | ibeardslee | really? that warm? |
| 22:30 | * eythian | has trouble sleeping when it's too warm |
| 22:30 | wizzyrea | you haven't lived until you've slept in a house with no AC with the low for the night at 25. Probably you'll end up not sleeping. |
| 22:31 | * ibeardslee | has done |
| 22:31 | eythian | yeah, I stayed at a friend's place in Canberra like that once. |
| 22:31 | I think the low was about 30 :/ | |
| 22:33 | wizzyrea | it's...unpleasant |
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| 23:28 | pianohacker | Good night |
| 23:28 | wahanui | I watch you sleep. |
| 23:29 | pianohacker | jaysis _christ_ |
| 23:33 | cait | creepy eh? |
| 23:33 | :) | |
| 23:33 | Good night | |
| 23:33 | wahanui | I'll be waiting for you to come back, cait. |
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| 23:38 | wizzyrea | good night. |
| 23:38 | wahanui | I'll be waiting for you to come back, wizzyrea. |
| 23:38 | wizzyrea | i know |
| 23:45 | eythian | wahanui: good night is also <reply>Don't go, $who. Stay a while. Stay forever. |
| 23:45 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
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| 23:57 | wizzyrea | lol |
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| 23:59 | Brooke | o/ |
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