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| 00:00 | NateC joined #koha | |
| 00:04 | mtompset | But this code issue... is one of those silent log filling kind. YAY! another beast to have been slain. ;) |
| 00:14 | dcook | IE-- |
| 00:14 | lds joined #koha | |
| 00:46 | jcamins | Does anyone know how to serialize a Perl data structure with LibXML? |
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| 00:57 | dcook | jcamins: Nope, but that would be a good thing to know, I imagine |
| 00:57 | jcamins | dcook: apparently it's complicated. |
| 00:57 | I think I'll go with an easier option. | |
| 00:57 | dcook | ? http://phaq.phunsites.net/2012[…]l-with-xmldumper/ |
| 01:00 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 01:02 | dcook | Seems like there are lots of examples going the other way around |
| 01:05 | jcamins | Well, that's the harder thing. |
| 01:06 | I decided to just use "<$elem>" . $meta->{$key} . "</$elem>" | |
| 01:07 | dcook | What are you using it for? |
| 01:08 | jcamins | Adding meta-metadata to search results. |
| 01:08 | dcook | Meta-metadata, eh? |
| 01:09 | jcamins | Yep. |
| 01:09 | dcook | Such as? |
| 01:09 | jcamins | Result number. |
| 01:16 | eythian | https://github.com/nomad-labs/OjaiClient <-- rangi and maybe others |
| 01:16 | (an android library for interfacing with bluetooth barcode scanners) | |
| 01:18 | rangi | sweet |
| 01:18 | mtompset | jcamins: http://search.cpan.org/~joseph[…]r-0.623/Writer.pm seems simpler, but I don't know how useful that might be. |
| 01:21 | jcamins | mtompset: I'd prefer not to add any additional dependencies. |
| 01:21 | mtompset | My thoughts exactly, if you already can cop out with the way you said. |
| 01:23 | eythian | jcamins: what are you doing that needs this> |
| 01:23 | ? | |
| 01:25 | jcamins | eythian: I need the result number to be passed to the XSLT. |
| 01:25 | eythian | ah right |
| 01:26 | rangi | i used xml::dumper for my exporting of star ratings |
| 01:28 | apropos of nothing :) | |
| 01:45 | jcamins | Does anyone know when $query->referer() won't work? |
| 01:46 | rangi | IE |
| 01:46 | jcamins | Of course. |
| 01:46 | rangi | sometimes |
| 01:46 | jcamins | I'm okay with that. |
| 01:47 | eythian | weirdo proxies |
| 01:47 | jcamins | We already say not to use old versions of IE with the staff client. |
| 01:47 | Weirdo proxies? Bah. | |
| 01:47 | eythian | I've seen it happen. |
| 01:47 | Also some people install plugins that supress the referrer information. | |
| 01:48 | But basically, quite uncommon corner cases. | |
| 01:51 | jcamins | The way we do searching in Koha, short of replacing C4::Search entirely, it looks like the only way to do multiple search-friendly paging is to use the referer. |
| 01:53 | rangi | one edge case |
| 01:53 | the opac is not in public mode | |
| 01:53 | someone hits a search url | |
| 01:53 | they get to the login page | |
| 01:53 | referer i think is messed up at that point | |
| 01:54 | as its a post | |
| 01:54 | jcamins | Hmm. |
| 01:54 | rangi | im not sure about that, but something to test |
| 01:55 | jcamins | Well, this is the staff client, so that's less of an issue for me. |
| 01:55 | rangi | true |
| 01:55 | it might do the same their | |
| 01:55 | ie do a search, grab the url | |
| 01:56 | log out | |
| 01:56 | hit the url | |
| 01:56 | and see if the referer is ok :) | |
| 01:56 | jcamins | Got it. |
| 01:56 | * jcamins | will try. |
| 01:56 | rangi | there too |
| 01:56 | :) | |
| 01:58 | jcamins | Yeah, referer is set to the current page. |
| 02:00 | But I think that's a limitation people can learn to live with. | |
| 02:00 | rangi | sweet |
| 02:00 | jcamins | I mean, if I stored it in the session, it'd get reset anyway. |
| 02:01 | mtompset | Why would it get reset? If it has been YAMLized into the sessions DB, it will stay for the duration of the session. |
| 02:01 | jcamins | mtompset: yes, so if you start a new session, it's reset. |
| 02:02 | * wizzyrea | looks up how much a bluetooth scanner costs |
| 02:02 | mtompset | Depends on the country, wizzyrea. ;) |
| 02:02 | eythian | jcamins: store it in the session keyed to a value in the URL |
| 02:02 | so you can have multiple search paths in the session at one time | |
| 02:02 | and it won't break between tabs | |
| 02:02 | wizzyrea | anywhere between cheap and not cheap. |
| 02:03 | http://www.barcodesinc.com/soc[…]-soc2870-2559.htm < cheaper | |
| 02:03 | http://www.barcodesinc.com/mot[…]8-prbu0100awr.htm < not so cheap | |
| 02:04 | jcamins | eythian: I hate to mess up URLs any further. |
| 02:04 | And I think the referer will do. | |
| 02:04 | wizzyrea | oh there's actually one that's more dear than that - 976.50 for a symbol something |
| 02:05 | eythian | that seems like a lot |
| 02:08 | jcamins | wizzyrea: http://www.uline.com/Product/D[…]-Cordless-Scanner |
| 02:09 | wizzyrea | "does not read 2d barcodes" |
| 02:09 | that seems less useful. | |
| 02:09 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 02:10 | wizzyrea | http://www.barcodesinc.com/sym[…]99AD-AAD04D3C727B |
| 02:12 | eythian | I don't think 2D barcodes can scan nearly so easily with a laser bar. |
| 02:13 | wizzyrea | probably not |
| 02:15 | http://www.qrscanner.us/3d-bar[…]-2d-barcodes.html < because I had a curious. | |
| 02:15 | eythian | http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/w[…]warns-jim-hickey/ |
| 02:15 | wizzyrea | snerk |
| 02:17 | eythian | that barcode article is wrong |
| 02:17 | QR codes aren't 3D, and regular ones aren't 2D | |
| 02:17 | wizzyrea | it was my impression that 1d was the usual ones |
| 02:17 | eythian | yeah |
| 02:17 | wizzyrea | but I can't tell the difference between examples of 2d and 3d |
| 02:17 | eythian | there's no such thing as 3D barcodes. |
| 02:17 | wizzyrea | with my eyes, anyway |
| 02:18 | then I am not sure why people sell scanners for them | |
| 02:18 | must be marketing | |
| 02:18 | eythian | Also, barcodes came about in 1974, not 1988 |
| 02:19 | qr codes in '94. | |
| 02:19 | wizzyrea | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B[…]de#Example_images ok this is properly helpful |
| 02:19 | dcook | wikipedia ftw |
| 02:22 | eythian | I see the high-capacity colour ones around. I think microsoft pushes them. As a result, nothing can read them and no one recognises them. |
| 02:22 | wizzyrea | snerk |
| 02:23 | eythian | > A Microsoft Tag is essentially a machine readable web link, analogous to a URL shortening link: when read, the Tag application sends the HCCB data to a Microsoft server, which then returns the publisher's intended URL. The |
| 02:23 | wizzyrea | apparently there is some marketing around 2D barcodes that are actually 3D |
| 02:23 | eythian | and that'll be why |
| 02:23 | wizzyrea | or other way around |
| 02:23 | * dcook | likes Galen's thansk messages on patches |
| 02:23 | eythian | if they're 3D they'd have to be in a cube, and would be hard to scan. |
| 02:23 | dcook | thanks messages too |
| 02:23 | wizzyrea | we have printers for that now |
| 02:24 | jcamins | How do you do remainder division in Perl? |
| 02:24 | dcook | Carefully? |
| 02:24 | wizzyrea | there does seem to be some expectation that 3D = QR code |
| 02:24 | eythian | jcamins: % |
| 02:24 | wizzyrea: that's totally wrong and by people who don't know anything. | |
| 02:25 | wizzyrea | I didn't say they were right! |
| 02:25 | eythian | > Unlike 1D and 2D barcodes, the bars in a 3D barcode are read by a scanner that reads the differences in the height of each line. |
| 02:25 | wizzyrea | just that the confusion exists. |
| 02:25 | eythian | that, however, is 3D |
| 02:25 | well, partially, anyway | |
| 02:25 | rangi | 4d reads them yesterday |
| 02:25 | wizzyrea | kek |
| 02:26 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 02:27 | Wait... I don't need that. | |
| 02:31 | Oh, yes I do. | |
| 02:32 | Wow. Our search API is absurd. | |
| 02:32 | eythian | someone should rewrite it. |
| 02:33 | dcook | Ahhh. Booking hotel roomssss! |
| 02:33 | * dcook | tries to remember the proper spelling of his street... |
| 02:34 | dcook | Hmm, they really don't like states with more than 2 letter abbreviations...that's...cool |
| 02:37 | eythian | I dislike it when things require a state at all. |
| 02:45 | dcook | Hmm, looks like they have a bug on their booking form as well.. |
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| 04:49 | dcook | Grrr...it appears that the Kohacon hotel registration page didn't work |
| 04:50 | Worst error handling ever.. | |
| 04:50 | Well, maybe not ever... | |
| 04:51 | * dcook | wonders how many other people think they have registrations at the hotel... |
| 05:13 | mtompset | Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha. |
| 05:20 | dcook | 7,118 emails O_O |
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| 05:26 | dcook | hey ya cait :) |
| 05:28 | cait | hi dcook :) |
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| 06:02 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 06:02 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 22.6°C (8:00 AM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:03 | dcook | @wunder sydney, australia |
| 06:03 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 16.0°C (3:30 PM EST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:04 | dcook | I wouldn't mind a few more degrees ;) |
| 06:05 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 06:08 | dcook | hey ya drojf |
| 06:08 | drojf | hi dcook |
| 06:08 | dcook | Enjoying the heat? |
| 06:08 | Wait...the expression is "hot enough for you?" | |
| 06:09 | * dcook | used to hate when people said that to him...but usually "cold enough for you" with -40 to -60 degree temperatures |
| 06:09 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 06:09 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 19.5°C (7:43 AM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:10 | drojf | that is pretty warm for my area ;) |
| 06:10 | at 8am | |
| 06:10 | unfortunately i miss most of it sitting at work or in the library | |
| 06:10 | cait | drojf: you think that is warm? |
| 06:10 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 06:10 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 22.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:11 | drojf | it is warm for berlin. you live in the south ;) |
| 06:11 | * dcook | remembers having a distinctly chilly experience last time he was in Berlin |
| 06:11 | dcook | Mind you, I think it was...October |
| 06:11 | drojf | that certainly was chilly, and probably wet |
| 06:12 | dcook | It was cloudy. I think it only rained a little bit though. |
| 06:12 | drojf | it's supposed to be 28° later today. that is more than i need |
| 06:12 | dcook | That's a bit toasty |
| 06:12 | I'm still debating whether I like "too hot" more than "too cold" | |
| 06:13 | drojf | 35°C for konstanz. ouch |
| 06:13 | dcook | Growing up in sub-arctic Canada, my closest friends always made the point that you can put on clothes and blankets in the winter |
| 06:13 | You can only take off so many things in the summer | |
| 06:14 | Ouch. That is pretty warm.. | |
| 06:15 | drojf | cait: 30°@9am. does that mean hitzefrei or did they get rif of that? i remember when i was young we didn't have school when it was 27 or higher at 10am |
| 06:15 | s/rif/rid | |
| 06:17 | * drojf | talks like a grampa :D |
| 06:17 | dcook | hehe |
| 06:18 | There were some young teenagers talking about Instagram on the bus last night | |
| 06:18 | I kept thinking, "When I was a kid, we didn't have mobile phones and we had to dial up for our internet!" | |
| 06:18 | Actually... | |
| 06:18 | I think I might have had high speed internet in my teen years... | |
| 06:19 | But we used to walk through blizzards to school! Up hills! Both ways! | |
| 06:19 | * dcook | actually lived maybe 300m from his high school... |
| 06:20 | drojf | lol |
| 06:20 | * drojf | heads to the shower |
| 06:28 | cait | heh |
| 06:28 | yeah too hot for me | |
| 06:28 | wish i could work from home | |
| 06:29 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
| 06:29 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (6:00 PM NZST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:29 | wizzyrea | pleasant, really. but gonna be ugly later this week |
| 06:30 | dcook | Oh? |
| 06:30 | * dcook | checks the weather |
| 06:30 | dcook | Hmm, looks like I'm drying my clothes inside today... |
| 06:30 | * dcook | misses having a tumble dryer |
| 06:31 | * wizzyrea | too |
| 06:32 | wizzyrea | we could have one, we're just cheap. |
| 06:34 | dcook | Yeah, we're cheap too, hehe |
| 06:34 | Also, we don't really have any way of venting the thing | |
| 06:34 | And I'm skeptical of the dryers that don't vent outdoors... | |
| 06:36 | * cjh | also misses having a dryer |
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| 06:36 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:36 | wahanui | what's up, reiveune |
| 06:39 | * cait | never had one so doesn't miss it |
| 06:39 | cait | :P |
| 06:39 | bbl :) | |
| 06:39 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:39 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:40 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:41 | * cait | instantly wants to omve to norway |
| 06:42 | drojf | magnuse: hot in bodø? :) |
| 06:43 | magnuse | drojf: nah, perfect :-) |
| 06:44 | drojf | :) |
| 06:44 | dcook | 10 degrees perfect? |
| 06:45 | You are a trooper, magnuse | |
| 06:45 | magnuse | nope, i just don't like it when it's too hot |
| 06:45 | @wunder marseille | |
| 06:45 | drojf | i wonder what the police state will look like today. |
| 06:45 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 26.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:46 | drojf | i bet people in berlin's center are very happy about police having confiscated their balkonies and force them to keep windows shut |
| 06:46 | wizzyrea | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/[…]ur-privacy-online |
| 06:46 | drojf | …because obama arrives tonight |
| 06:46 | wizzyrea | eff is recommending people turn off referers |
| 06:47 | :( | |
| 06:47 | :( about the police state. | |
| 06:48 | drojf | i'd like them to not let me enter my office for security reasons ;) |
| 06:49 | you have to go into about:config to turn off referers? i got a button for that | |
| 06:50 | a checkbox really. not sure how i got that though. i had it like forever. next to those to turn off cookies, flash, javascript, java… | |
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| 06:51 | drojf | ah right, it's an extension. prefbar. |
| 06:56 | magnuse | hm, are tt things that show up in translations supposed to have double %'s? like so: %s [%% UNLESS hidden.defined('branchcode') %%] |
| 06:57 | Oak | @wunder islamabad |
| 06:57 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad Airport, Pakistan is 32.0°C (11:00 AM PKT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.54 in 1000 hPa. |
| 06:58 | dcook | wizzyrea: I was wondering why you were :(ing the eff |
| 06:58 | :p | |
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| 07:04 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
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| 07:09 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:10 | wizzyrea | oh I thought jcamins was talking about hanging something off of referers earlier |
| 07:19 | drojf | does »sorry, but it took so long to unmount my music player« sound like a valid excuse to be late to a meeting? |
| 07:20 | finally. see you later #koha | |
| 07:20 | dcook | I read that as "oh I thought jcamins was talking about hanging himself off...earlier" |
| 07:20 | Search.pm isn't THAT bad! | |
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| 07:44 | kf | hi #koha |
| 07:47 | magnuse | hiya kf |
| 07:47 | kf: are tt things that show up in translations supposed to have double %'s? like so: %s [%% UNLESS hidden.defined('branchcode') %%] | |
| 07:48 | (i asked that earlier but you were away and it seems like the kind of thing you would know) | |
| 07:48 | s/would/might/ | |
| 07:50 | rangi | no |
| 07:50 | thats just broken | |
| 07:50 | * dcook | is inclined to think the same thing |
| 07:54 | kf | hm i think %% is how pootle escapes % |
| 07:54 | but in that case it's probably problematic | |
| 07:55 | rangi | yes |
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| 07:56 | kf | same problem as with \ maybe? |
| 07:56 | magnuse | anyone know what to do? remove the extra %? |
| 07:56 | kf | pootle thinks it needs to escape it, but we don't want it to |
| 07:56 | it might not work, but you can try it | |
| 07:57 | probably you need to rewrite the template to make it not show up in po files | |
| 07:57 | magnuse | gah, precious little time for translating now, let alone testing stuff... :-( |
| 08:04 | cjh | go magnuse go! |
| 08:05 | magnuse | :-) |
| 08:05 | kf | magnuse: if it helps... i probably didn't even notice and translated it wrong |
| 08:05 | * kf | sighs |
| 08:05 | magnuse | yeah, that helps a lot! ;-) |
| 08:06 | kf | :Ü |
| 08:06 | :P even | |
| 08:09 | * magnuse | wonders what :Ü looks like... someone spitting? |
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| 08:12 | magnuse | "Click to *rewind* the list to" - what does that mean? |
| 08:12 | kf | that's from the browser thing on the detail page |
| 08:12 | rangi | what? |
| 08:12 | kf | i didn't correct it |
| 08:12 | I just made it translatable | |
| 08:13 | magnuse | next/previous links on search results? |
| 08:13 | kf | when you have the browser result list thing and open it up to show that browse option, that's the tooltip on the arrows/pages I think |
| 08:13 | ok, i am not making sense :P | |
| 08:16 | magnuse | ah, got it |
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| 09:41 | dcook | Home time! |
| 10:13 | jcamins | wizzyrea: ugh. |
| 10:21 | kf | hm? |
| 10:21 | and aren't you awake too early? | |
| 10:21 | jcamins | The fact that EFF is recommending to disable referer. |
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| 10:31 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 10:31 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 10:31 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 26.5°C (12:13 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
| 10:31 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 10:31 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 29.6°C (12:30 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:31 | drojf | the good thing is, i'm not at the air conditioned library :) |
| 10:31 | s/not/now | |
| 10:35 | kf | *hmpf* |
| 10:35 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 10:35 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 19.4°C (6:20 AM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
| 10:35 | jcamins | Eww. That's not a good sign for 6:30am. |
| 10:36 | drojf | ouch |
| 10:38 | * kf | had more at 8.... and it was not a good sign |
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| 10:56 | kf | magnuse: poedit complains if you remove one of the %% |
| 10:56 | so def a problem | |
| 11:08 | magnuse | ouch |
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| 11:57 | drojf | that is probably a weird question, but geolocation services are usually either "real" gps or using wifi ssids to get a location, right? would it be possible to install whatever hardware locally to have a working geolocation service within a library? (and by "whatever hardware" i mean preferably not a satellite) |
| 11:57 | jcamins | drojf: I'd think you'd also need to provide some sort of GPS client. |
| 11:59 | drojf | i was thinking of something like a smartphone as a client |
| 11:59 | jcamins | Right, I think you'd have to provide a client application for the smartphone. |
| 11:59 | libsysguy | or HTML5 location services |
| 12:00 | drojf | leaflet.js is quite easy to handle. works for html5 geolocation at least |
| 12:00 | but i'd need a proper signal indoors | |
| 12:01 | libsysguy | drojf: http://maps.google.com/help/maps/indoormaps/ |
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| 12:01 | drojf | libsysguy: interesting, thanks. of course i would want that without the google part :D |
| 12:02 | but that is basically what i was thinking about, yes | |
| 12:02 | libsysguy | Google is inescapable |
| 12:02 | I've accepted it :p | |
| 12:02 | drojf | no it's not |
| 12:02 | i haven't :D | |
| 12:03 | jcamins | drojf: in that case you're going to need your own client side code, I think. |
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| 12:04 | drojf | i like how "How do indoor Google Maps work?" does not say anything about how it works |
| 12:05 | libsysguy | I think they mean "how" in a non-technical perspective |
| 12:05 | drojf | what kind of perspective would that be? that's madness |
| 12:06 | libsysguy | I would say the "So simple it could be said to a mom" perspective |
| 12:07 | drojf | are you trying to insult my mother? :P |
| 12:07 | libsysguy | I did revise "your" to "a" to avoid any "your mom" jokes :p |
| 12:08 | drojf | ;) |
| 12:08 | libsysguy | I have to say, I have found AngularJS very interesting |
| 12:09 | ^^ random sidebar | |
| 12:16 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 12:16 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 32.8°C (2:15 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:16 | kf | thought so :( |
| 12:16 | magnuse | oh wow |
| 12:16 | that's the kind of temp we had in crete | |
| 12:17 | and they were complaining about it being hotter than usual | |
| 12:17 | @wunder boo | |
| 12:17 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 12.0°C (2:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:17 | magnuse | that's more like it |
| 12:33 | chris_n | heh => http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]riting-unit-tests |
| 12:35 | * kf | still wants to move to norway |
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| 12:43 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 12:44 | kf | hi tcohen |
| 12:44 | tcohen | hi kf |
| 12:44 | rangi++ # qunitjs | |
| 12:59 | magnuse | kf: yay! |
| 12:59 | @wunder oslo, norway | |
| 12:59 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Holter, Holter, Norway is 24.9°C (2:59 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:59 | magnuse | gotta be northern norway, though! |
| 12:59 | @wunder nesbyen, norway | |
| 12:59 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Nesbyen, Norway is 24.9°C (2:50 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: . Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:00 | drojf | @wunder tromso, norway |
| 13:00 | huginn | drojf: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 13:00 | drojf | @wunder tromsø, norway |
| 13:00 | huginn | drojf: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 13:00 | drojf | hm |
| 13:00 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 13:00 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 3.0°C (9:00 AM ART on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:00 | magnuse | @wunder notodden, norway |
| 13:00 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Johan Badensveg, Notodden, Norway is 23.3°C (3:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:01 | magnuse | @wunder TSO |
| 13:01 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in OHDOT 38-Carroll County Garage, Carrollton, Ohio is 17.8°C (8:31 AM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
| 13:01 | magnuse | @wunder TSØ |
| 13:01 | huginn | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 13:01 | magnuse | @wunder tos |
| 13:01 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Tromso - Langnes, Norway is 11.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:01 | magnuse | there you go drojf |
| 13:02 | @wunder longyearbyen | |
| 13:02 | huginn | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 13:02 | magnuse | @wunder lyr |
| 13:02 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Svalbard, Norway is 7.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling). |
| 13:04 | drojf | ok i think i prefer 30° over 11 right now. (saying that sitting in climated library with probably ~23° ;) |
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| 13:05 | drojf | @wonder nuuk, greenland |
| 13:05 | huginn | drojf: downloading the Perl source |
| 13:05 | drojf | @wunder nuuk, greenland |
| 13:05 | huginn | drojf: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 13:05 | drojf | magnuse: where did you get the working codes from? |
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| 13:08 | magnuse | drojf: i googled for e.g. "airport code tromsø" |
| 13:08 | @wunder goh | |
| 13:08 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Nuuk, Greenland is 4.0°C (10:50 AM WGST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:09 | magnuse | @wunder thu |
| 13:09 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Pituffik, Greenland is 2.0°C (9:58 AM ADT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Falling). |
| 13:09 | magnuse | hehe |
| 13:10 | drojf | cozy |
| 13:11 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 13:11 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 34.0°C (3:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
| 13:11 | kf | ! |
| 13:12 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 13:12 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 25.3°C (9:06 AM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:14 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 13:14 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Germany is 27.7°C (3:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:14 | drojf | i think it will be nice at the time i leave ;) |
| 13:18 | magnuse | i talked to some librarians from georgia (the country) last week, and they had trouble searching for records with georgian characters. i said the solution was probably icu indexing (or solr). anyone got any other ideas? |
| 13:18 | jcamins | ICU. |
| 13:19 | Without ICU, they will not be able to search for non-Roman characters, period. | |
| 13:19 | magnuse | ok, that's what i thought |
| 13:20 | is there a good description somewhere of how to activate that (in an existing installation)? | |
| 13:20 | jcamins | I don't know. |
| 13:21 | magnuse | i found http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]of_Arabic_records |
| 13:21 | jcamins | Yeah, I'd search the wiki for ICU, and if you don't find anything, conclude that there isn't. |
| 13:21 | magnuse | hehe |
| 13:21 | done :-) | |
| 13:21 | how does icu work with the packages? | |
| 13:22 | jcamins | You have to turn it on manually. |
| 13:22 | magnuse | ok, that's what i thought |
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| 13:40 | kf | @wunder nyc |
| 13:40 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Murray Hill, New York, New York is 24.0°C (9:40 AM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:40 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 13:40 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 33.4°C (3:15 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:44 | magnuse | kf: getting colder! |
| 13:44 | kf | not feeling it |
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| 13:44 | vfernandes | hi people |
| 13:44 | :) | |
| 13:44 | magnuse | hiya vfernandes |
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| 13:45 | vfernandes | i little question: where to put robots.txt file in Koha to block robots? |
| 13:47 | magnuse | hm, isn't there an example robots.txt somewhere? |
| 13:48 | jcamins | vfernandes: in the server root. /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs |
| 13:48 | vfernandes | https://github.com/fredericd/K[…]ter/README.robots |
| 13:48 | need to restart apache? | |
| 13:48 | jcamins | No. |
| 13:49 | vfernandes | http://catalogo.biblioteca.isc[…]iul.pt/robots.txt |
| 13:49 | jcamins | Looks fine. |
| 13:49 | vfernandes | bingbot still active |
| 13:49 | jcamins | Oh, in that case you have a problem with the syntax, most likely. |
| 13:50 | kf | or the robot is mean :) |
| 13:50 | jcamins | Or that. |
| 13:51 | Or you haven't waited long enough. | |
| 13:51 | They only check once every few days. | |
| 13:51 | kf | maybe if you kick it out? |
| 13:51 | jcamins | kf: setting up a firewall seems like a bit much. |
| 13:51 | kf | ah |
| 13:51 | right | |
| 13:51 | magnuse | if you just added the robots.txt they might not pick it up until they start a new "session" |
| 13:51 | kf | forget what I said. it's hot. |
| 13:52 | oh | |
| 13:52 | vfernandes | let's wait then... :D |
| 13:53 | thanks kf, magnuse and jcamins | |
| 14:04 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9541: make OPAC login page respect OPAC_CSS_OVERRIDE <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]00eff0f93fc79b8a9> |
| 14:09 | tcohen | do we have bootstrap on the staff interface? |
| 14:09 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 14:09 | Didn't you notice the beautiful buttons? :) | |
| 14:10 | tcohen | yes |
| 14:10 | i thought it was jqueryui thou | |
| 14:10 | jcamins | Nope. Bootstrap. |
| 14:11 | * tcohen | heads to rewrite the search box using saner code :-P |
| 14:11 | tcohen | (just a sample one) |
| 14:21 | oh, that's why the search button isn't pretty jcamins? It isn't bootstrap | |
| 14:22 | jcamins | tcohen: Yes, but our standard look and feel is that submit buttons are ugly. |
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| 14:24 | drojf | lol |
| 14:24 | jcamins | drojf: no, really. I'm serious. |
| 14:28 | drojf | unique selling point. (i think i learned that word here a few days ago) |
| 14:31 | tcohen | jajaja |
| 14:32 | is there a bug for that jcamins? or was an RFC? | |
| 14:33 | jcamins | tcohen: no, that's just what Owen said we should do. |
| 14:40 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 14:40 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #68: "gmcharlt: which probably means that library schools ought to rename Cataloging 101 to Identification and Avoidance of Rabbit Holes 101" (added by wizzyrea_laptop at 08:17 PM, March 10, 2010) |
| 14:52 | drojf | bug 6874 is epic |
| 14:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC |
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| 15:05 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 15:06 | Question: which is a better problem? duplicate card numbers or skipped card numbers? | |
| 15:06 | drojf | "This patch is a *followup* to the previous patch" is a great patch description |
| 15:06 | hi mtompset | |
| 15:06 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9826 - Missing fields in MARC21 authority framework <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f26bdcca89220b6bf> |
| 15:06 | mtompset | Greetings, drojf. Long time no greet! :) |
| 15:06 | drojf | i don't think you would want duplicate card numbers in any case. but maybe that's just me |
| 15:07 | jcamins | mtompset: skipped. |
| 15:08 | mtompset | Okay, because that seems to be the worst case scenario for the patch I'm working on. I'm just running the idea through thought experiments right now. Code will materialize. |
| 15:08 | (that being skipped) | |
| 15:09 | but that would require a secondary process stopping for seconds while another one runs. | |
| 15:10 | And I think that is very unlikely. | |
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| 15:13 | * drojf | leaves |
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| 15:23 | mveron | hi #koha |
| 15:23 | kf | hi mveron |
| 15:23 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 15:23 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 34.0°C (5:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa (Falling). |
| 15:23 | mveron | hi kf :-) |
| 15:23 | @wunder Basel | |
| 15:23 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Mulhouse FR, Basel, Switzerland is 33.9°C (4:37 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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| 15:24 | mtompset | Greetings, mveron. :) |
| 15:24 | Greetings, kf. :) | |
| 15:24 | mveron | hi mtompset :-) |
| 15:24 | kf | mveron: close :) |
| 15:25 | mveron | Yeah, it's hot. But I do not complain... |
| 15:25 | kf: Did you see the question about "Sonderkategorien für Notenbibliotheken" on the German list? | |
| 15:26 | kf | yes I did |
| 15:29 | * tcohen | suddenly loves bootstrap and how the search forms look @koha using it ;-) |
| 15:30 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen. :) |
| 15:30 | kf | bootstrap++ |
| 15:30 | tcohen++ | |
| 15:30 | tcohen: working on more autocompletes? | |
| 15:31 | pastebot | "mveron" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "For KF regarding German List" (32 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/70 |
| 15:31 | jcamins | I didn't like Bootstrap autocomplete. |
| 15:31 | I switched to Twitter autocomplete and haven't looked back once. | |
| 15:31 | kf | hm |
| 15:31 | i thought bootstrap and twitter were related? | |
| 15:32 | jcamins | kf: they are. Twitter realized that the autocomplete they wrote for Bootstrap wasn't good enough and forked it into a separate project. |
| 15:32 | mveron | Kannst du mal das paste anschauen, ob das vernüfntig klingt... |
| 15:32 | http://paste.koha-community.org/70 | |
| 15:32 | kf | ;) |
| 15:33 | wrong window? :) | |
| 15:33 | jcamins | So there's Twitter Bootstrap's autocomplete, and there's Twitter Autocomplete. |
| 15:33 | mveron | kf: yes... |
| 15:34 | tcohen | no kf, bug 10471 |
| 15:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10471 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Global search input box and button geometry not always consistent (browsers, translations) |
| 15:34 | tcohen | my first work got stuck when I faced more complex forms |
| 15:35 | vfernandes | anyone already did an update from 3.0 to 3.10? |
| 15:35 | kf | no 3.0 installations around here |
| 15:35 | so not going to have to... andglad :) | |
| 15:36 | vfernandes | I've already done updates from 3.2 to 3.8 and everything worked fine |
| 15:36 | from 3.0 i've never done | |
| 15:36 | tcohen | vfernandes: we did 3.0.x to 3.8.x |
| 15:36 | vfernandes | and everything worked fine tcohen? |
| 15:37 | tcohen | yes vfernandez |
| 15:37 | the upgrade raised several warnings regarding tables already present and such | |
| 15:37 | vfernandes | nice :) so to 3.10 should be smooth too... I hope so :P |
| 15:37 | tcohen | they where not fatal |
| 15:38 | vfernandes | this is a complicated migration... a client has a koha 2.2, I've already done the update to 3.0 |
| 15:39 | tcohen | it should work vfernandes |
| 15:40 | my relation with koha starts at 3.0beta2 | |
| 15:40 | so I nkow nothing about 2.x | |
| 15:41 | vfernandes | tcohen++ |
| 15:41 | :) | |
| 15:42 | pianohacker | tcohen: You're a lucky man. Koha 2.2 was frustrating to deal with |
| 15:46 | tcohen | i know i'm a lucky guy pianohacker, its my 33th birthday, and i'm being paid to work on FOSS |
| 15:46 | jcamins | Happy birthday! |
| 15:46 | tcohen | heh |
| 15:46 | thanks jcamins | |
| 15:49 | pianohacker | tcohen: That's awesome |
| 15:50 | gmcharlt | tcohen++ # another year! |
| 15:52 | jcamins | rambutan: do you know anything about how barcode prefixes are assigned to libraries in MO? |
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| 15:58 | tcohen | jcamins: http://snag.gy/njnk2.jpg |
| 15:58 | * jcamins | likes it! |
| 15:58 | tcohen | I wasn't sure about removing the labels |
| 15:58 | ISSN: <input> | |
| 16:19 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 16:20 | jcamins | Oh, bother. |
| 16:20 | I should have asked Gaetan which university he was visiting. | |
| 16:21 | pianohacker | tcohen: Placeholders are awesome |
| 16:21 | You using the placeholder attribute? | |
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| 16:29 | vfernandes | guys, I'm having a problem with opensuse and apache |
| 16:29 | Access forbidden: client denied by server configuration: /srv/www/htdocs/ | |
| 16:30 | jcamins | Sounds like a misconfiguration. Maybe permissions? I don't use opensuse. |
| 16:32 | mveron | bye bye #koha |
| 16:33 | vfernandes | I've linked koha-httpd.conf to /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/ |
| 16:33 | then added a listen 8080 to listen.conf | |
| 16:33 | changed koha-httpd.conf | |
| 16:36 | jcamins | vfernandes: maybe you have to disable the default site? |
| 16:36 | I don't know, though, sorry. | |
| 16:42 | pianohacker | does anyone know of any unimarc/normarc public Z39.50 targets? |
| 16:44 | jcamins | pianohacker: cat installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/2-Optionel/z3950_BNF.sql |
| 16:44 | pianohacker | ah! good idea |
| 16:44 | hopefully some of them work | |
| 16:44 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 16:44 | I think they do. | |
| 16:45 | pianohacker: and installer/data/mysql/nb-NO/2-Valgfritt/z3950servers.sql for NORMARC, I think. | |
| 16:46 | pianohacker | which means part 2 is writing equivalents of etc/pazpar2/marc21-work-groups.xsl for unimarc and normarc |
| 16:46 | thanks for your help | |
| 16:48 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9728: XISBN unit test update <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]515742ab0f4bebbe1> |
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| 16:49 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 16:49 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 33.3°C (6:45 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:50 | kf | *sigh* |
| 16:50 | bug 10490 | |
| 16:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10490 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Overdue fines cap (amount) in circulation rules rounds |
| 16:50 | kf | bug 10490 |
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| 17:49 | * mtompset | whistles Happy Birthday while looking at tcohen. ;) |
| 17:49 | cait | oh is it? |
| 17:49 | Alles Gute zum Geburtstag tcohen! :) | |
| 18:11 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 18:11 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 23.9°C (2:06 PM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:11 | jcamins | Well thank goodness for that. |
| 18:12 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 18:12 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.4°C (8:10 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:12 | cait | getting wind |
| 18:12 | wonder if we will get a thunderstorm | |
| 18:12 | and the temperature has dropped a bit hm | |
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| 18:17 | nengard | @wunder 19030 |
| 18:17 | huginn | nengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is 21.3°C (2:03 PM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:18 | nengard | we already had a thunderstorm ... so i guess now it's just light rain |
| 18:19 | cait | oh i hear thunder! |
| 18:19 | we really had a super hot day, it will be nice to get some rain | |
| 18:20 | drojf | cait: probably just drums, accompanying the returning sun :P |
| 18:20 | cait | drojf: meany :) |
| 18:22 | * gmcharlt | both hands out a foot-gun, and recommends against using it |
| 18:24 | mtompset | How did you figure out the numbers, jcamins and nengard? |
| 18:24 | cait | i wish i would get that, but my brain is still overheating |
| 18:25 | nengard | what numbers? |
| 18:25 | that we use for weather? | |
| 18:25 | those are our postal codes | |
| 18:25 | pianohacker | that's a reaaaaally big foot-gun gmcharlt |
| 18:26 | mtompset | @wunder L7E 5Y5 |
| 18:26 | huginn | mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is 25.2°C (2:26 PM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:26 | mtompset | Okay, cool. |
| 18:26 | nengard | :) |
| 18:26 | pianohacker | @wunder 80401 |
| 18:26 | huginn | pianohacker: The current temperature in Off Trail Travel, Golden, Colorado is 20.9°C (12:24 PM MDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:26 | nengard | Off Trail Travel? |
| 18:26 | pianohacker | I have no earthly idea |
| 18:26 | nengard | that can't be a town name |
| 18:26 | hehe | |
| 18:27 | oh look ... mine is JAT Observatory | |
| 18:27 | pianohacker | Some travel agency with a weather station on the roof? |
| 18:27 | nengard | that's new |
| 18:27 | it used to just say the town | |
| 18:27 | pianohacker | plus 49% humidity in colorado, good _lord_ |
| 18:27 | nengard | 49 is AWESOME |
| 18:27 | we have 87% | |
| 18:27 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 18:27 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.7°C (8:25 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:27 | pianohacker | dips down to 20% in Trinidad, CO where my parents used to live :P |
| 18:27 | cait | hm still dropping |
| 18:27 | pianohacker | that will suck the blood from your very veins |
| 18:28 | @wunder 81082 | |
| 18:28 | huginn | pianohacker: The current temperature in Near Trinidad State Junior College, Trinidad, Colorado is 23.9°C (12:28 PM MDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:34 | nengard | jquery help - how do i hide the Home link on the OPAC: |
| 18:34 | $('#breadcrumbs a[title='home']').hide(); | |
| 18:34 | that doesn't work | |
| 18:36 | pianohacker | nengard: change that to $('#breadcrumbs a[title="Home"]').hide(); |
| 18:36 | wahanui | pianohacker: that doesn't look right |
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| 18:36 | mtompset | 87% is horrible. |
| 18:36 | pianohacker | woah what? |
| 18:37 | nengard | bingo ... quotes and capitalization :) |
| 18:37 | pianohacker | nengard: uhhh, accidental bot-murder aside, you have to have different kinds of quotes for the inside and outside, so JS doesn't get confused |
| 18:37 | yeah | |
| 18:38 | mtompset | $'""' |
| 18:38 | nengard | i agree mtompset |
| 18:38 | * mtompset | frowns, "How to generalize the bot murder?" |
| 18:39 | mtompset | That's like the Philippines. |
| 18:39 | pianohacker | That's what I'm wondering, what did I do? |
| 18:39 | wahanui: change that to $() | |
| 18:39 | wahanui | pianohacker: that doesn't look right |
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| 18:39 | pianohacker | does it do interpolation or something? |
| 18:40 | dolla dolla bills are $ | |
| 18:46 | jcamins | pianohacker: it's "change." |
| 18:47 | nengard | change |
| 18:51 | jcamins | change something |
| 18:51 | wahanui | jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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| 18:54 | nengard | hehe |
| 19:00 | gmcharlt | wahanui: change your state of being |
| 19:00 | wahanui | gmcharlt: that doesn't look right |
| 19:00 | wahanui joined #koha | |
| 19:00 | gmcharlt | heh |
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| 19:13 | mtompset | hope and change? |
| 19:13 | Welcome back, tcohen. | |
| 19:13 | hope and change | |
| 19:13 | change | |
| 19:13 | * mtompset | frowns, "Everyone else gets a bot kill, but me?" |
| 19:14 | mtompset | hope and change something |
| 19:14 | obama? | |
| 19:15 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 19:15 | got home earlier to prepare for family party | |
| 19:15 | mtompset | Everybody! Happy Birthday to you... |
| 19:15 | Happy Birthday, dear tcohen... | |
| 19:15 | cait | tcohen: nice! |
| 19:16 | Alles Gute zum Geburtstag :) | |
| 19:16 | mtompset | wahanui: change your state of being? |
| 19:16 | wahanui | mtompset: that doesn't look right |
| 19:16 | wahanui joined #koha | |
| 19:17 | mtompset | It's just not fulfilling when you have to replicate someone elses trigger. :( |
| 19:18 | tcohen | thanks mtompset cait |
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| 19:18 | mtompset | Ilang taon ba? How old are you? ;) |
| 19:18 | tcohen | tcohen? |
| 19:18 | wahanui | you are, like, 122 |
| 19:19 | cait | heh :) |
| 19:19 | tcohen | actually, 33 |
| 19:19 | cait | btw i was wishing you a happy birthday ;) |
| 19:19 | mtompset | That should be 132. :P |
| 19:19 | So it is a nice multiple. :) | |
| 19:19 | bgkriegel | Happy birthday tcohen :-) |
| 19:20 | tcohen | yeah, damm 2-digit base10 representation |
| 19:20 | thanks bgkriegel | |
| 19:24 | mtompset | 112 is you want base 5. :P |
| 19:24 | I mean 114. | |
| 19:25 | tcohen | heh |
| 19:25 | mtompset | I mean 113... my math is bad. |
| 19:27 | edveal | jcamins might you be able to help me with an xslt if statement? |
| 19:28 | I am trying to customize the xslt style sheet to not display the Availability line if Online Access is present. | |
| 19:29 | cait | edveal: what do you want to check for? |
| 19:29 | 856? anything additional? | |
| 19:29 | edveal | Yes |
| 19:30 | cait | what have you tried? |
| 19:30 | edveal | Not much yet. LOL |
| 19:31 | cait | well you could take a look at how the detail page checks for existence of tags |
| 19:33 | edveal | The xslt already checks for it and if it is there it displays content. What I want it to do is then NOT display the "Availability" line. |
| 19:34 | So I guess I need to write an additional check in the Availability code to say if this is not present then display this... | |
| 19:35 | cait | yeah if you copy the condition that should work |
| 19:35 | jcamins | edveal: you can just use a regular if statement. No need for a choose. |
| 19:36 | edveal | Right that is what I just concluded... |
| 19:36 | thanks I will write and test… :) | |
| 19:38 | pianohacker | hahahahahaha |
| 19:38 | I _just_ put in an xslt:param | |
| 19:39 | to disable availability display | |
| 19:39 | edveal: I retroactively love you | |
| 19:39 | mtompset | Why pianohacker? Why not zx81hacker? or RaspberryPiHacker? |
| 19:41 | jcamins | pianohacker: interesting choice. Why a param? |
| 19:47 | pianohacker | jcamins: Ability to disable the display completely for external targets, where it doesn't make sense |
| 19:48 | mtompset: Long story with my old piano teacher, said it looked like I was at a computer keyboard when I was playing piano. Still don't know what exactly he meant by that | |
| 19:48 | mtompset | Ah, so you do (or at least did) play piano. ;) |
| 19:49 | pianohacker | Yup! Still do, wonderful way to relax |
| 19:50 | jcamins | pianohacker: to clarify, I was wondering why you chose to use a param rather than e.g. the absence of something-that-identifies-a-record-that-might-contain-holdings (to allow for availability display with remote targets that might support availability). |
| 19:51 | (there is nothing wrong with using a param, of course) | |
| 19:56 | pianohacker | jcamins: Weeeeell, simplicity, for the most part :) Most of the intended targts don't support items, especially not in our glommed-on XML format, but it seems to me that you would still want to display an "Availability: nada señor" line in the catalog |
| 19:56 | I'm reusing the stock XSLT, so I had to make some modifications | |
| 19:56 | Including an shim for xsl:import in godforsaken Webkit, that was fun | |
| 19:58 | jcamins | pianohacker: oh, yeah, that bugs me. |
| 19:59 | pianohacker | which part? I rambled a bit |
| 19:59 | jcamins | The xsl:import. |
| 20:02 | pianohacker | urgh, yeah. It's been an unfixed bug in Webkit for a loooong time |
| 20:04 | rangi | pianohacker: concert at kohacon? |
| 20:05 | pianohacker | informal, sure ;) |
| 20:06 | depends on finding a piano that people won't yell at you for playing | |
| 20:06 | ^ a lot harder than you think! | |
| 20:06 | rangi | heh true |
| 20:07 | pianohacker | at kohacon09, I found a piano hidden in a back room of the conference center after some wheedling, actually :) |
| 20:07 | rangi | i think we might be able to get the hotel to let us use one |
| 20:07 | if we all pile into one of the bars and take it over :) | |
| 20:07 | pianohacker | just don't let them know that librarians are coming |
| 20:08 | rangi | heh |
| 20:08 | cait | :) |
| 20:08 | rangi | id still like to do the communal cooking thing if possible too |
| 20:09 | that might be a lot harder to organise | |
| 20:10 | ok better take these kids to school | |
| 20:13 | cait | communal cooking...mmh |
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| 20:38 | cait | :) |
| 20:39 | i am just always a bit careful when posting links - dunno why :) | |
| 20:39 | i think there is a bug somewhere for some problems with mariadb | |
| 20:39 | would probably be good if some devs would run from it... try to find more. not really an idea how to do it hm. | |
| 20:40 | gmcharlt | cait: that's a good idea |
| 20:40 | I will do exactly that | |
| 20:41 | cait | i think jcamins tried to? *nudges him* |
| 20:41 | jcamins | MariaDB + Plack has an issue where nothing can be deleted successfully. |
| 20:41 | It's an issue. | |
| 20:41 | I have not used MySQL on my dev machine in a long time. | |
| 20:41 | cait | ah there he is :) |
| 20:42 | jcamins | Actually, it's not the deleting. That'll work. |
| 20:42 | What fails catastrophically is moving things into old_* tables. | |
| 20:43 | gmcharlt | jcamins: how much playing around have you doing with sql_mode? |
| 20:43 | *have you done | |
| 20:43 | jcamins | None. |
| 20:43 | I'm not even sure what that is. | |
| 20:44 | gmcharlt | jcamins: https://kb.askmonty.org/en/sql_mode/ |
| 20:45 | upshot is that it's entirely possible that default packages of MariaDB may use a stricter sql_mode setting than default packages of MySQL | |
| 20:45 | jcamins | Both are empty. |
| 20:45 | gmcharlt | now in the long run, I think we *want* to be stricter |
| 20:46 | jcamins | Agreed. |
| 20:47 | gmcharlt | but in the short term, setting the session sql_mode when Koha opens a database connection may suffice for enough backwards compatibility to make the transition as painless as possible |
| 20:47 | jcamins | If you don't have DEBUG turned on, the issues aren't visible. |
| 20:49 | cait | mbalmer did some work on identifying mysqlisms |
| 20:49 | we didn't agree on the solution | |
| 20:49 | but might also be a place to start looking for problemsß | |
| 20:49 | ? | |
| 20:49 | not sure how much mariadb supports of that | |
| 20:49 | it's on the wiki | |
| 20:50 | jcamins | cait: I'm pretty sure none of the problems he identified would get in the way of using MariaDB. |
| 20:50 | cait | even better :) |
| 20:50 | jcamins | And, of course, the proposed solution was unspeakably dreadful. |
| 20:50 | * cait | forgets about it then |
| 20:50 | gmcharlt | right, backwards-compatibiity is one of MariDB's design points |
| 20:50 | cait | i didn#t even dare to mention it ;) |
| 20:57 | bag | afternoon all |
| 20:58 | tcohen | is it possible to know what commit was a patch built against? |
| 20:59 | bd7e36c563c35cba6a1f35971d31187226f3fabb | |
| 20:59 | sorry, this one http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=17558 | |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | look at the parent? |
| 20:59 | jcamins | tcohen: you could check when files matched were current. |
| 21:00 | tcohen | i need to rebase those patches |
| 21:00 | jcamins | tcohen: if you're on the same repo, you could do `git show bd7e36c563c35cba6a1f35971d31187226f3fabb^` |
| 21:01 | tcohen | oh, the ^ |
| 21:01 | jcamins | wizzyrea: hey, do you know who I'd e-mail at NEKLS to ask about how barcode prefixes are assigned in Kansas? Or, even better, do you know how barcode prefixes are assigned? |
| 21:04 | tcohen | thanks jcamins |
| 21:06 | If I rebase the stopwords removal patches, should I remove the signed-off status too? | |
| 21:06 | conflicts were trivial | |
| 21:06 | (absent files that don't need to be deleted again) | |
| 21:07 | (and the obvious updatedatabase.pl) | |
| 21:09 | jcamins | wizzyrea++ |
| 21:12 | cjh | wizzyrea++ thanks for that :) |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | :D yw |
| 21:14 | cait | tcohen: should be ok if it was only conflicts and no other changes |
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| 21:43 | pianohacker | Quick question on bug 10320 |
| 21:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10320 enhancement, P4, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Show results from library's OverDrive collection in OPAC search |
| 21:44 | mtompset | Have a great day (24 hour period), everyone. |
| 21:44 | pianohacker | Have another patch soon incoming that I developed on some of the same code. It ruffle any feathers if I just leave it dependent on the patch for 10320? |
| 21:45 | jcamins | pianohacker: that's fairly normal. |
| 21:45 | pianohacker | Cool. Also, what can I do to help 10320 get pushed? |
| 21:45 | If the answer is "wait", that's fine :) | |
| 21:46 | jcamins | Probably wait, but I didn't look. |
| 21:46 | Reduce the QA queue so that non-ByWaterian members of the QA team have cycles free to look at it? | |
| 21:47 | pianohacker | Hah! I think I might be doing that at some point this summer, actually, but it depends on other plans :) |
| 22:28 | eythian | hi |
| 22:32 | bag | hi eythian |
| 22:33 | cait | hi eythian :) |
| 22:36 | rangi | bug 8798 |
| 22:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, Signed Off , Add the use of DBIx::Class |
| 22:37 | rangi | if someone could eyeball the last patch on there, that i just added |
| 22:37 | that would be great | |
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| 23:06 | pianohacker | bye all |
| 23:42 | jcamins | gmcharlt: http://mashable.com/2013/06/17[…]ngest-book-chain/ <-- did you get to see this? |
| 23:42 | gmcharlt | jcamins: no -- Marlene didn't find out about it until after the fact |
| 23:42 | jcamins | Awww. |
| 23:43 | Pretty amazing. | |
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| 23:44 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10332: further improvements to course reserves tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]155e8b82bcaeaa68f> / Bug 10332: Data could exist in the courses table. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f54ac5cd08cac90f8> / Bug 10332: CourseReserves.t needs to create its own data <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha |
| 23:45 | dcook joined #koha | |
| 23:47 | dcook | morning #koha |
| 23:47 | rangi | hi dcook |
| 23:47 | dcook | hey ya rangi |
| 23:48 | Hotel has in fact been booked :) | |
| 23:48 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 23:49 | I booked the hotel a few weekends ago. | |
| 23:49 | rangi | sweet |
| 23:49 | dcook | Wise move. I probably should've booked it a while ago, but we just had to sort out who was paying what and when. |
| 23:50 | Now all that's left is to make the presentation.. | |
| 23:51 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 23:51 | Pffft. No problem. | |
| 23:53 | dcook | hehe. It shouldn't be too bad. Just lots to do between now and October. |
| 23:53 | * jcamins | impatiently waits for his wife to get back from picking up the CSA veggies so that he can make the saag paneer. |
| 23:53 | dcook | Ooo |
| 23:53 | CSA? | |
| 23:54 | jcamins | Community Supported Agriculture. |
| 23:54 | dcook | Right, I forgot about that.. |
| 23:54 | Mmm. Saag paneer would be tasty. | |
| 23:54 | jcamins | We're getting cilantro, escarole, purple kohlrabi, romaine lettuce, scallions, baby arugula, and red beets. |
| 23:54 | dcook | There's a little shop down the road from my house that makes delicious saag aloo. |
| 23:54 | jcamins | dcook: bet you could get more spinach and potatoes if you bought them uncooked. :P |
| 23:55 | I have to figure out what to do with the cilantro. | |
| 23:55 | dcook | jcamins: I think that's always the case ;) |
| 23:55 | Hmm...I think we use cilantro quite a bit | |
| 23:55 | Although we call it coriander down here | |
| 23:56 | And arugula is rocket/rockette/roquette | |
| 23:56 | Took me a while to figure that last one out | |
| 23:56 | jcamins | It's rocket here, too. |
| 23:58 | dcook | Whoa...really? |
| 23:59 | jcamins | Yeah, I only started hearing arugula in the last few years. |
| 23:59 | dcook | Huh... |
| 23:59 | gmcharlt | and I've never heard anything but arugula ... :) |
| 23:59 | "rocket" is a new one on me | |
| 23:59 | eythian | I've never heard of arugula. |
| 23:59 | Have heard of rocket though :) |
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