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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | jcamins | Good morning, dcook. Operation Mango Chocolate Chip Cookie is a go. |
| 00:00 | dcook | Morning, jcamins. That sounds amazing! |
| 00:01 | How far along in the mission are you? | |
| 00:02 | jcamins | dcook: I have combined mango, butter, and sugar. |
| 00:02 | Ooh, I wonder what the pH of mango is... | |
| 00:03 | 3.4-4.6. | |
| 00:03 | That's pretty acidic. | |
| 00:04 | dcook | Interesting fact or potential problem? |
| 00:05 | In either case...mango, butter, sugar...*drool* | |
| 00:05 | We may have sat in bed last night with a bowl of Anzac biscuit mixture and a laptop with BSG season 1 | |
| 00:06 | jcamins | dcook: actually, good news. |
| 00:06 | It'll offset the fact that I'm going to use more baking soda than I generally would because baking soda will help the cookies bind. | |
| 00:07 | I didn't like BSG. | |
| 00:07 | However, sitting in bed with cookie dough sounds like a *great* idea. | |
| 00:10 | cjh | I found BSG really hard to get into. |
| 00:14 | jcamins | I found it to be overly conservative, politically, a la Starship Troopers (the book). |
| 00:15 | Interestingly, I am the only person who has been troubled by this, ever. | |
| 00:15 | dcook | jcamins: I have a limited knowledge of baking, but I figured that might be the case |
| 00:15 | Surely, you're not the only one to be troubled by this :p | |
| 00:15 | jcamins | Okay, maybe not ever. I was never interested enough to see if anyone agreed with me. |
| 00:16 | rangi | heinlein was a fruitloop |
| 00:16 | dcook | I find it interesting although the plot is spotty especially at the end |
| 00:17 | jcamins | dcook: since you are surely going to want to make them, the recipe is: 1 ripe mango, chopped; 1 stick butter, softened; 2 eggs; 1 tsp. vanilla extract; 2 c. flour; 3/4 tsp. baking soda; 1/4 tsp. salt; 2 Tbsp. unsweetened shredded coconut; 1 c. chocolate chips. |
| 00:17 | dcook | hehe |
| 00:17 | jcamins | Bake at 350 degrees Fahrenheit, I think. |
| 00:17 | Right now I'm chilling them because the dough is... a bit soft. | |
| 00:18 | dcook | Hmm, I don't know if our oven has Fahrenheit |
| 00:18 | * jcamins | contemplates what else to bake. |
| 00:18 | dcook | In Canada, we have both Celsius and Fahrenheit, but Australia is serious about its metric system |
| 00:18 | Of course, I could just look it up... | |
| 00:18 | But I wanted to point out that Australia is weird...in their adherence to a single standard... | |
| 00:21 | What else to bake... | |
| 00:21 | rangi: What makes you say that? Not that I've ever read any Heinlein, but I'm curious. | |
| 00:21 | Saw Larry Niven at a con once. Odd fellow... | |
| 00:21 | Never read any of his stuff either | |
| 00:24 | jcamins | I enjoyed some of Niven's books quite a lot. |
| 00:24 | rangi | space cadet |
| 00:25 | starship troopers | |
| 00:25 | jcamins | Yeah, I was not such a fan of Heinlein. |
| 00:26 | rangi | good writer, dont like his idea of the future tho :) |
| 00:27 | dcook | I don't know if I like any writer's idea of the future :p |
| 00:27 | jcamins: You always do an excellent job of making me hungry before lunch.. | |
| 00:27 | jcamins | dcook: you're welcome. |
| 00:28 | Chewy chocolate cookies? | |
| 00:28 | Those are always good. | |
| 00:29 | dcook | Mmm chewy... |
| 00:31 | jcamins | Nah, better make up something new. |
| 00:33 | But what? | |
| 00:33 | I already did rosemary the other day. | |
| 00:34 | Green tea. | |
| 00:34 | dcook | Oh right...I forgot about the rosemary ones. I think you sent me the recipe for that as well. |
| 00:34 | * dcook | really needs to start baking this winter |
| 00:35 | jcamins | Okay, let's see... |
| 00:52 | dcook | bgkriegel: Are you around? |
| 00:53 | @later tell bgkriegel Any case of getting bug 9458 into 3.10.x? | |
| 00:53 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:53 | dcook | Err |
| 00:54 | @later tell bgkriegel case = chance | |
| 00:54 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:55 | bgkriegel | Hi dcook, let me look |
| 00:55 | dcook | Cool. Thanks :). |
| 01:01 | jcamins | And, for those of you wanting the green tea chocolate cookie recipe: 2 sticks butter, softened; 2 c. sugar; 2 eggs; 2 tsp vanilla extract; 3/4 c. cocoa; 2 Tbsp fine sencha; 2 c. flour; 3/4 tsp. baking soda. |
| 01:03 | bgkriegel | dcook, does not apply cleanly, I need to look deeper.Anyway I normally wait for 3.12 branch first, and we are in string freeze right now. So it must wait to 3.10.8 |
| 01:03 | jcamins | bug 9458 |
| 01:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9458 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Add sorting to lists |
| 01:05 | dcook | bgkriegel: Sounds good :). Thanks for looking into it for me. |
| 01:41 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10464: Patron search on placing a hold now supports autocomplete <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]82dac10cab0468d24> |
| 02:05 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10439: fix bug preventing the library for a notice from being changed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]731e05de90fc667c9> | |
| 02:56 | * jcamins | wanders through humming For I Hold That On The Sea. |
| 03:02 | dcook | Members::Search...what? |
| 03:02 | jcamins | C4::Members::Search? |
| 03:02 | dcook | Errmm Maybe I meant Members(Search) |
| 03:02 | The Search sub in Members.pm :p | |
| 03:03 | jcamins | Yeah, C4::Members::Search. |
| 03:03 | dcook | This example makes no sense to me : $borrowers = Search({''=>'abcd', category_type=>'I'}, 'surname'); |
| 03:03 | * jcamins | wanders in the opposite direction singing about gentlemanly tones. |
| 03:03 | dcook | Or how it's implemented in guarantor_search.pl |
| 03:03 | hehe | |
| 03:03 | Good call, jcamins. Good call ;). | |
| 03:04 | jcamins | The fact that that make perfect sense to me frightens me beyond all measure. |
| 03:04 | eythian | what about it makes no sense to you? |
| 03:04 | jcamins | I've never looked at the code. :( |
| 03:04 | dcook | I don't see any way that the category_type is ever searched |
| 03:04 | eythian | oh, right. I don't know. |
| 03:04 | jcamins | But that's a keyword search for abcd, limited by category_type, probably ordered by surname. |
| 03:05 | dcook | In theory |
| 03:05 | Except category_type is a column in categories | |
| 03:05 | Not borrowers.. | |
| 03:05 | I see no joins | |
| 03:06 | I see no reference to category_type (unless it's referenced without its name) | |
| 03:06 | jcamins | SearchInTable. |
| 03:06 | dcook | Yeah, that's what I'm looking at now |
| 03:07 | jcamins | What are you trying to do? |
| 03:07 | I try to avoid C4::SQLHelper. | |
| 03:07 | dcook | With good reason.. |
| 03:07 | Well...we're upgrading another 3.2 client | |
| 03:07 | Who wants professionals to be able to guarantee other professionals | |
| 03:07 | jcamins | And this worked in 3.2? |
| 03:08 | dcook | With a modification we made, apparently |
| 03:08 | jcamins | The same modification should work. |
| 03:08 | dcook | But the thing is...I think it's working in 3.8 without modification |
| 03:08 | jcamins | Oh, excellent! |
| 03:08 | dcook | Except...according to the code...it shouldn't |
| 03:08 | I think O_o | |
| 03:08 | Guarantors should only be adults or institutions | |
| 03:09 | Search should only be bringing up borrowers with a category_type of "A" or "I" | |
| 03:10 | But everyone seems to be coming up which leads me to think that this "filter" doesn't work | |
| 03:10 | jcamins | Could well be. |
| 03:13 | dcook | I think part of the reason it worked in 3.2 is because it used a totally different sub |
| 03:13 | Which actually made sense | |
| 03:15 | * dcook | shrugs |
| 03:16 | jcamins | Oh, yeah, the great patron search unification. |
| 03:16 | I did that for 3.4ish or 3.6ish. | |
| 03:16 | *Ian | |
| 03:16 | Not me. | |
| 03:18 | There's probably an RFC on the wiki explaining how it was supposed to work. | |
| 03:18 | dcook | Yeah...definitely has some issues...but I don't know if I particularly care. Me thinks it would involve quite a bit of rewriting to get it back to a state which doesn't necessarily make a ton of sense anyway |
| 03:20 | jcamins | Oh, I wasn't proposing any major refactoring. |
| 03:20 | I thought you might like an explanation of what it was supposed to be doing, so you could confirm that it had the behavior you wanted. | |
| 03:20 | However, I don't see an RFC. | |
| 03:20 | bag can probably provide you with the spec, though. | |
| 03:27 | dcook | Hmm |
| 03:28 | I think they might have a note that it doesn't do anything.. | |
| 03:28 | "NOTE: Current implementation may remove parts of the iinput hashrefs. If that is a problem | |
| 03:28 | a copy needs to be created in _filter_fields() below" | |
| 03:28 | eythian | that's bad programming right there |
| 03:28 | at least it's documented, but still. | |
| 03:28 | And not that I haven't done it... | |
| 03:29 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 03:29 | Good night, #koha. | |
| 03:29 | dcook | night, jcamins |
| 03:29 | eythian: Is that based on what I've said or a look at the files? | |
| 03:29 | eythian | based on what you said |
| 03:29 | dcook | Mmm |
| 03:29 | eythian | modifying your input is generally frowned upon |
| 03:30 | dcook | That note doesn't actually cover this case either.. |
| 03:30 | modifying your input? | |
| 03:30 | eythian | oh, am I misreading. |
| 03:30 | it sounds like a function is getting a hashref and modifying it | |
| 03:31 | dcook | I don't think so. |
| 03:31 | I think it takes a hashref and splits it out into an SQL where | |
| 03:32 | eythian | if it's its own hashref, that's OK |
| 03:33 | * dcook | shrugs |
| 03:34 | dcook | All I know is that it isn't doing what it says it's doing |
| 03:34 | And it sure looks liike ugly code to me | |
| 03:34 | Plus, just found one of these notes: "# An act of desperation" | |
| 03:34 | Although like you said...not that I haven't done that either.. | |
| 03:35 | eythian | heh |
| 03:50 | dcook | Mmm, I think I'm following this "guarantor" thing a lot more now... |
| 03:50 | Still broken though :p | |
| 03:59 | Bug report written up. Time for lunch.h | |
| 04:00 | The second h is for hungry... | |
| 04:18 | All the bugs... | |
| 04:25 | Random question while I remember...does anyone have/know about a "Koha Installation Checklist"? | |
| 04:26 | eythian | wahanui: koha installation checklist |
| 04:26 | wahanui | eythian: huh? |
| 04:26 | dcook | While the package install takes care of most things, there are still a few things that a person needs to configure outside of it |
| 04:26 | Such as setting up email | |
| 04:26 | eythian | we have one for clients, but that's more internal to Koha |
| 04:27 | dcook | Internal to Koha? |
| 04:27 | or Catalyst? | |
| 04:27 | wahanui | Catalyst is a monster, lots of moving parts |
| 04:27 | dcook | lol |
| 04:27 | eythian | the sort of thing that clients would need. |
| 04:27 | dcook | Right, that makes sense |
| 04:27 | eythian | we don't have one for systems stuff as that gets set up according to our standard methods anyway. |
| 04:27 | dcook | I've just been pondering lately what all I'm missing from my Koha install |
| 04:28 | Makes sense | |
| 04:28 | I was thinking that people probably wouldn't have checklists for that reason | |
| 04:28 | eythian | wouldn't hurt to make one really. |
| 04:28 | dcook | I suppose I could be a pioneer in that |
| 04:28 | I just wonder if I'm missing anything | |
| 04:28 | I had to re-install Debian yesterday as I somehow managed to totally screw up my network connection | |
| 04:28 | No idea how.. | |
| 04:29 | So I'm going over my notes again...trying to streamline it | |
| 04:29 | eythian | you probably just needed to edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 04:29 | dcook | Did that |
| 04:29 | Many many times | |
| 04:29 | It seemed like the router wasn't giving the server an IP address | |
| 04:29 | eythian | in that case, a reinstall isn't likely to help |
| 04:29 | dcook | If I gave it a static one, it could connect to itself but couldn't ping the router or anything else |
| 04:30 | It seemed to | |
| 04:30 | After the re-install, no problems with internet connectivity | |
| 04:30 | Mind you... | |
| 04:30 | When I was using GParted, I did run the network config utility that's packaged with it | |
| 04:30 | eythian | that's kinda odd really |
| 04:30 | dcook | Since I couldn't connect to the internet through the Gparted dvd either |
| 04:30 | Although I could after I ran that utility | |
| 04:30 | :S | |
| 04:31 | (I wonder a bit if I had run the utility in Gparted then gone back into my Debian install if it would've worked...) | |
| 04:31 | eythian: Really odd. I combed through forums and tried everything, but nothing worked. | |
| 04:31 | Reset the router a few times.. | |
| 04:31 | I had installed VirtualBox, Google Chrome, and a flash plugin for Chromium on Saturday night... | |
| 04:32 | Internet worked fine | |
| 04:32 | It wasn't until the next morning, when I went to install an SSH server (so I could work from the comfort of bed), that I found no connectivity | |
| 04:32 | I half wonder if somehow VirtualBox buggered something up... | |
| 04:33 | And I didn't notice until it came time to boot the next morning.. | |
| 04:33 | eythian | well, you can manage vbox's dhcp server, maybe its networking config had gone a bit off. |
| 04:33 | *odd | |
| 04:34 | dcook | That's about the only thing that I can think that could possibly maybe do it |
| 04:34 | Although I was a bit surprised that VirtualBox would interfere with the connection between the server and the router :S | |
| 04:35 | eythian | I wouldn't be, virtualbox is providing the networking. |
| 04:35 | dcook | Even when no VMs are running? |
| 04:36 | eythian | oh, was this the host server? |
| 04:36 | dcook | Yep |
| 04:36 | eythian | ah |
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| 05:00 | AmitG | heya mtj around |
| 05:00 | dcook | hey ya cait, AmitG |
| 05:00 | AmitG | cait |
| 05:00 | heya dcook | |
| 05:15 | eythian | http://open.salon.com/blog/jls[…]osing_a_bookstore |
| 05:16 | * cait | waves |
| 05:16 | eythian | hello cait |
| 05:16 | wahanui | hello cait are you here? |
| 05:26 | * magnuse | waves |
| 05:26 | magnuse | http://translate.koha-community.org/ down? |
| 05:28 | eythian | http://www.downforeveryoneorju[…]oha-community.org <-- yep |
| 05:28 | dcook | eythian: #16 |
| 05:30 | Comic books and graphic novels are totes different.. | |
| 05:31 | Also, I love how eythian always has a link for that | |
| 05:32 | eythian | dcook: it's like the old saying goes: give a man a fire, and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life. |
| 05:33 | dcook | lol |
| 05:33 | It wasn't very loud, but that laugh was audible | |
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| 05:51 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 05:53 | dcook | morning drojf |
| 05:56 | drojf | hi dcook |
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| 06:11 | cait | hi drojf |
| 06:13 | drojf | hi cait |
| 06:16 | sophie_m | hello #koha |
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| 06:25 | * magnuse | waves again |
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| 06:28 | marcelr | good morning #koha |
| 06:28 | cait++ #qa | |
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| 06:36 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:37 | AmitG | heya laurence |
| 06:37 | laurence | hi AmitG |
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| 07:05 | Joubu | hello #koha |
| 07:12 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 07:12 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 26.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on June 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:12 | magnuse | wow! |
| 07:12 | paul_p | hello #koha |
| 07:12 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:12 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on June 17, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:13 | magnuse | that's better |
| 07:13 | bonjour paul_p | |
| 07:13 | paul_p | mmm... translate.koha-community.org is down ? |
| 07:18 | marcelr | hi france & magnuse |
| 07:19 | magnuse | paul_p: looks like it |
| 07:19 | hiya marcelr | |
| 07:25 | paul_p | hi marcelr |
| 07:25 | @wunder amsterdam | |
| 07:25 | huginn | paul_p: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 07:25 | marcelr | :) |
| 07:25 | i cannot be found | |
| 07:25 | paul_p | marcelr = bad news, you live in the limbo... |
| 07:26 | marcelr what about moving to Marseille ? Nice place, beach, a lot of Koha activity, and it exists :D :D | |
| 07:26 | marcelr | @wunder Netherlands |
| 07:26 | huginn | marcelr: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 07:26 | marcelr | idem |
| 07:26 | paul_p | marcelr lol... |
| 07:26 | marcelr | scary |
| 07:26 | drojf | @wunder amsterdam, netherlands |
| 07:26 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 16.0°C (8:55 AM CEST on June 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:26 | drojf | :) |
| 07:26 | marcelr | just 10 degrees lower |
| 07:27 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 07:27 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 19.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on June 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:27 | marcelr | ok |
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| 07:27 | drojf | not sure if i need 26°C at 9pm on a work day ;) |
| 07:28 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
| 07:28 | drojf | 9am |
| 07:32 | * magnuse | agrees with drojf :-) |
| 07:32 | magnuse | bonjour christophe_c |
| 07:33 | AmitG | hyea magnuse |
| 07:34 | magnuse | hiya AmitG |
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| 07:38 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:38 | christophe_c | bonjour magnuse ;-) |
| 07:40 | magnuse | wb kf |
| 07:56 | kf | hi magnuse and christophe_c |
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| 08:06 | cjh | found some time to catch up on my rmaint-ing :) |
| 08:07 | magnuse | cjh++ |
| 08:22 | kf | cjh++ :) |
| 08:23 | cjh | I dont really deserve the +s, only have to catch up because I got behind :) |
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| 08:36 | kf | cjh: hm yeah... release soon? :P |
| 08:38 | cjh | 22nd-ish :p |
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| 08:48 | Shalom | anyone know how to stop authorities creation from acquisition? i don't want to create the author authorities when i enter an order to the system |
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| 11:37 | christophe_c | hello kf :-[ in late ... I was afk ;-) |
| 11:39 | kf | christophe_c: np, i was afk too :) |
| 11:39 | christophe_c | ;-) |
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| 12:03 | kf | @later tell bgkriegel I have problems with searching in pootle, could you take a look? |
| 12:03 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:06 | kf | @later tell bgkriegel - it seems to happen only for german? i tested basque and that seemed to work alright :( |
| 12:06 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
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| 12:19 | nengard | kf i was trying to test bug 9948 again ..but i can't receive anything in today's master |
| 12:19 | can you? | |
| 12:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9948 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , acq data going on first item even if not received |
| 12:19 | nengard | is there a bug or a data problem on my end? |
| 12:19 | kf | hm i coudl receive normally yesterday |
| 12:19 | testing master from yesterday, not sure anything related to receiving went in today | |
| 12:20 | you placed the order with acqcreateitem set to 'on order'? | |
| 12:20 | nengard | yes |
| 12:20 | there is nothing to receive | |
| 12:20 | kf | same vendor? |
| 12:20 | nengard | but i have 102 bibs waiting to be received |
| 12:20 | i tried 2 vendors | |
| 12:20 | kf | just trying to think about the mistakes i normally make :) |
| 12:20 | oh | |
| 12:20 | did you close the basket? | |
| 12:20 | nengard | yes |
| 12:20 | kf | hm |
| 12:20 | nengard | and no |
| 12:20 | i tried both ways | |
| 12:21 | you didn't always have to close a basket | |
| 12:21 | kf | i can only say that it did work yesterdy |
| 12:21 | i think it's more strict now | |
| 12:21 | nengard | i even created a new order today and tried that and tried and old order |
| 12:21 | kf | better to close it when you want to look for late orders and the like |
| 12:21 | nengard | of course |
| 12:21 | kf | it just shows no order lines? |
| 12:21 | nengard | no order lines to receive |
| 12:21 | i see them when i do a search and view the basket | |
| 12:21 | kf | we used tot tell the libraries not to close... |
| 12:22 | i haven't had that happenign | |
| 12:22 | i used an older order and a new order | |
| 12:24 | nengard | hmm |
| 12:24 | k | |
| 12:25 | kf | not sure, can't test here :( |
| 12:26 | can you test maybe to go back a little? | |
| 12:27 | like crate a new branch and do a git reset --hard HEAD~5 or so? | |
| 12:28 | but it should not make a difference I think... there is not really something acq related in the patches gone in yesterday. hm. | |
| 12:28 | nengard | omg i figured it out |
| 12:28 | it remembered a search of mine for 'chris' in the acq search | |
| 12:28 | i think i might report that as a bug cause i had to have done that weeks ago!!! | |
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| 12:30 | jcamins | nengard: if you mean the web browser auto-remembered, what I do is delete the items with search terms from my history when it starts autocompleting a search and not just the search page. |
| 12:30 | kf | jcamins: i couldn't follow you |
| 12:30 | nengard | oh good |
| 12:30 | me either | |
| 12:31 | thought it was my monday morning brain | |
| 12:31 | kf | might have a similar brain then |
| 12:31 | but i am happy receiving is not broken :) | |
| 12:31 | nengard | me too! |
| 12:32 | jcamins | I have no idea what you mean by "it remembered a search," but assuming you mean "my web browser automatically took me to a page that had prefilled a search for the term 'chris,'" the solution is to delete that URL from your web browser's history. |
| 12:32 | nengard | no |
| 12:32 | :) | |
| 12:32 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 12:32 | nengard | so what I did was i clicked 'receive' and the tiny search box to the right of the list of titles you can recieve - the datatable - had a search i had typed in there ages and ages ago |
| 12:32 | jcamins | Chrome starts autocompleting URLs that include search strings about once every other week for me. |
| 12:32 | nengard | so it wasn't in the url |
| 12:33 | kf | oh chrome |
| 12:33 | jcamins | Got it. |
| 12:33 | nengard | and i'm in FF |
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| 12:40 | AmitG | heya nengard |
| 12:41 | nengard | hello and goodbye ... |
| 12:41 | jcamins | He wanted you to know he was thinking of you. |
| 12:41 | Viktor | :) |
| 12:42 | And - Hello all :) | |
| 12:42 | jcamins | Myshkin managed to cover me with blue ink. |
| 12:42 | kf | jcamins: oooh he thinks the color suits you :) |
| 12:42 | jcamins | Actually, he just likes blue ink. |
| 12:43 | Viktor | Expecting drojf to show up today? (Got the start of a sort of dictionary that we talked about a while back) |
| 12:43 | jcamins | The first time I flew to Europe after we moved to NYC, an hour and a half before I was due to leave to catch my plane he managed to dye himself blue from nose to toes. |
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| 12:46 | kf | jcamins: lol |
| 12:46 | do you have photos? | |
| 12:47 | Viktor: he was here this morning, not sure where he is now - maybe studying in the library :) | |
| 12:47 | jcamins | No, I was too upset about it to think of that. |
| 12:47 | I had been owned by a cat for only a few months, and Shari was of course out all day. | |
| 12:47 | kf | jcamins: !! |
| 12:47 | there he went to that lengths to be pretty to say goodbye to you and you don't take a photo | |
| 12:47 | Viktor | kf Hm - so people here are actually _using_ libraries too? not shure how to feel about that ;) |
| 12:48 | jcamins | Viktor: don't worry, it's just drojf. |
| 12:48 | kf | i always used to sit in the library with my laptop... good wifi... nice quiet atmosphere... :) |
| 12:48 | Viktor | jcamins ;D |
| 12:48 | kf | he has reasons :P |
| 12:49 | Viktor | I do like the libraries too - it's one of the few places you can sit for a while without opening the wallet. |
| 12:49 | kf | i wish i could find scores in pootle... someone translated it to 'points' instead of 'written music' |
| 12:49 | Viktor | I'll talk to him about the file later then. |
| 12:50 | kf | I know he is working on some dictionary project... samian? |
| 12:50 | Viktor | And I hope you lovely people are here later too because my coworkers is taking a coffebreak :) |
| 12:50 | kf | he miht show up if we keep talking about him :) |
| 12:50 | we probably are.. | |
| 12:50 | * kf | is coloring opacs today |
| 12:51 | jcamins | kf: fun! |
| 12:51 | Viktor_away | kf - Coloring is fun. We stared last week and had real fun. |
| 12:51 | kf | i have one in orange and one in green so far hehe |
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| 13:02 | jcamins | kf: how many OPACs are you coloring? |
| 13:15 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 13:16 | hi jcamins | |
| 13:26 | jcamins | Good morning. |
| 13:30 | tcohen | gmcharlt: do u agree we could have parametrizable javascript code to inject the autocomplete code on a per--syspref basis? |
| 13:31 | kf | jcamins: 2? :) |
| 13:31 | for now | |
| 13:35 | good morning tcohen | |
| 13:35 | tcohen | hi kf |
| 13:37 | kf | tcohen: maybe you can help... i have problems with searching the german po files :( |
| 13:37 | tcohen | problems with pootle? |
| 13:37 | kf | yeah |
| 13:37 | i am looking for score | |
| 13:38 | because i have a wrong translation in german, but it gives me no results | |
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| 13:38 | kf | it works in Danish |
| 13:38 | hi oak | |
| 13:39 | Oak | kello kf |
| 13:39 | uh oh | |
| 13:39 | tcohen | the filters are set to incomplete by default |
| 13:42 | works for spanish | |
| 13:42 | email bgkriegel please | |
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| 13:45 | kf | tcohen: i will thx |
| 13:45 | tcohen: could you do me a favor and try it in german too? | |
| 13:45 | just to make sure I am not doig it wrong? | |
| 13:45 | today is a werid monday... | |
| 13:45 | tcohen | you're right, is not working |
| 13:46 | kf | ok, not good, but at least not doing it wrong :) |
| 13:49 | tcohen: i am writing him, thx for checking :) | |
| 13:50 | tcohen | he's not answering on talk, i'll give him a phone call |
| 13:50 | kf | i just wrote him - I think it has a bit of time, but thx :) |
| 13:51 | I don't want to stress him about ti | |
| 13:55 | tcohen | he was just walking |
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| 13:56 | tcohen | said he'll re-run the indexing scripts |
| 14:01 | Oak | kf, who among us is the database design expert? |
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| 14:02 | jcamins | Oak: as a general rule, rangi is the expert in everything. |
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| 14:06 | Oak | :) |
| 14:06 | but he is the most busy one as well. | |
| 14:06 | but you all are. | |
| 14:11 | gmcharlt | tcohen: probably |
| 14:12 | could you expand a bit on what you're proposing? | |
| 14:13 | tcohen | its just having a single js function with formid and inputid as parameters, and does everything to set the autocomplete feature |
| 14:14 | and on a per-syspref basis, call ir on document,ready where applicable | |
| 14:14 | kf | bgkriegel++ tcohen++ thx! |
| 14:14 | tcohen | the refactoring *might* include rewriting the method that creates the list of values |
| 14:14 | kf | Oak: it probably depends on your question :) |
| 14:15 | gmcharlt | tcohen: yep, sounds reasonable |
| 14:15 | tcohen | as the jquery.autocopmlete API expects a JSON to do all the job, and we are building the list on our own... |
| 14:15 | haven't digged deeper on that (not an jqueryui expert) | |
| 14:15 | but looks like we don't need that | |
| 14:16 | processing on the browser | |
| 14:16 | Oak | kf: yes i am thinking how to formulate my question. |
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| 14:44 | tcohen | bug 10471 |
| 14:44 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10396: remove unnecessary date-picker widgets from Catalog statistics form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bc0943226bad24668> |
| 14:44 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10471 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Global search input box and button geometry not always consistent (browsers, translations) | |
| 14:45 | kf | Oak: still thinking? :) |
| 14:48 | tcohen | kf: does master look like this on chrome for you? http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=19024 |
| 14:48 | kf | tcohen: hm no chrome at work |
| 14:48 | what am i looking for there? | |
| 14:49 | tcohen | the search box |
| 14:50 | is shorter than the line | |
| 14:50 | should look like this http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=19023 | |
| 14:51 | kf | oh |
| 14:51 | i didn't notice that so far | |
| 14:51 | Oak | kf emailing a friend about something different :) |
| 14:55 | gmcharlt | tcohen: hmm -- looks OK to me http://librarypolice.com/~gmc/[…]global-search.png |
| 14:55 | Version 27.0.1453.110 m | |
| 14:56 | tcohen | hmm |
| 14:58 | that's an unpatched master checkout gmcharlt, right? | |
| 14:58 | gmcharlt | tcohen: yes |
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| 15:08 | tcohen | kohacon13? |
| 15:08 | wahanui | well, kohacon13 is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]KohaCon13_Summary |
| 15:09 | gmcharlt | tcohen: re 10471, what members/members-home.pl does to the global search box is especially egregious |
| 15:11 | * tcohen | loves learning new words |
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| 15:12 | tcohen | should I look how does my patch behave with members-home.pl? |
| 15:13 | oh, it breaks it | |
| 15:14 | * gmcharlt | readies rope to rescue tcohen |
| 15:14 | gmcharlt | ;) |
| 15:14 | tcohen | i shouldn't have looked at circulation and mainpage only |
| 15:15 | at least the bug is confirmed, what a relief :-P | |
| 15:15 | Rotkiv | Hi! Does anyone know if the "Tiny CMS"-function will work well with the new theme? (it's branded as for 3.4 and later on the wiki) |
| 15:17 | And does this provide wysiwyg editing? | |
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| 15:17 | Rotkiv | And at best - the possibility to create a 2-dimensional navigation with both topbar and left hand nav. |
| 15:17 | Or is it best to just try to integrate with a CMS? | |
| 15:19 | gmcharlt | Rotkiv: the Koha-as-CMS workaround should continue to work just fine; however, it doesn't offer WYSIWYG editing |
| 15:19 | tcohen | is not that hard to fix gmcharlt |
| 15:20 | gmcharlt | tcohen: groovy |
| 15:21 | tcohen | is just much more boring than I thought :-P |
| 15:22 | gmcharlt | and about to get even more boring, considering the places in acqui, cataloguing, admin, etc. that also adjust the global search box |
| 15:22 | Rotkiv | Thanks! Sounds interesting (although not fun...) |
| 15:23 | tcohen | of course gmcharlt, the boring part was all the places that need to be touched |
| 15:23 | Rotkiv | Is there a bugzilla post for this? |
| 15:23 | gmcharlt | Rotkiv: bugzilla post for what? |
| 15:24 | Rotkiv | The editable areas of Koha will take care of most of the needs I come across. But many also need static pages in a 2D-grid. |
| 15:25 | gmcharlt for adding wysiwyg that tcohen seems to at least have given some thought :) | |
| 15:26 | gmcharlt | Rotkiv: ah -- I think tcohen was talking about something else, though |
| 15:26 | Rotkiv | Ah - too bad :) |
| 15:26 | gmcharlt | as far as a bug goes, bug 7840 might be a good place to add desiderata for the Koha-as-CMS hack |
| 15:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7840 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, NEW , Remove from manual Koha as a CMS (or add it to master) |
| 15:27 | Rotkiv | Thanks! |
| 15:28 | I'll be adding to the wishlist :) | |
| 15:29 | gmcharlt | cool |
| 15:29 | Rotkiv | Is there any known ways to integrate cleanly with a CMS in the meantime? :) |
| 15:30 | I'm thinking about things like keeping the login at the top active when moving to pages in a CMS etc. | |
| 15:30 | gmcharlt | there have been several bits of work to integrate Koha with Drupal, e.g., https://drupal.org/sandbox/jajm/1833210 |
| 15:30 | and adding a catalog search box to a page managed by a CMS is easy, of course | |
| 15:32 | Rotkiv | Thanks. Yes - integrating 90% is easy. It's the last bits like login and such things that makes it difficult. |
| 15:33 | gmcharlt | indeed |
| 15:33 | do you have any particular CMS that you're targeting? | |
| 15:36 | Rotkiv | To integrate fully in the web for the local community it's SiteVision. |
| 15:36 | Otherwise any good one I guess :) | |
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| 15:55 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:08 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10291: Clarify misleading variable name <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]22c42e163385d2e98> |
| 16:18 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10256: Remove some unused subs from Overdues module <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c27dfb04796e9b0a5> | |
| 16:26 | Rotkiv | Thanks for the help and bye! |
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| 17:39 | kf | bye all |
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| 17:57 | tcohen | gmcharlt: the patch its getting bigger and bigger |
| 17:58 | gmcharlt | tcohen: I thought it might |
| 17:59 | jcamins | Which Frankenpatch is this? |
| 18:01 | tcohen | jcamins: gmcharlt made me notice my patch for bug 10471 broke several other places, which I'm trying to fix to see how this comes out |
| 18:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10471 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Global search input box and button geometry not always consistent (browsers, translations) |
| 18:02 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 18:02 | magnuse | tcohen++ for not giving up :-) |
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| 18:10 | pianohacker | Hmm. What's the story with Solr? Seems like it's in an odd halfway-zone of used but not |
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| 18:11 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
| 18:11 | cait | kia ora magnus :) |
| 18:11 | magnuse | w00t! |
| 18:12 | pianohacker: as far as i understand there are libraries using it in production | |
| 18:12 | pianohacker | makes sense, the code seems ready. Are there things keeping Koha from eventually migrating to it? |
| 18:14 | jcamins | pianohacker: right now you have to choose between Solr and, for example, authority records. |
| 18:15 | And it requires you to install dependencies from CPAN, I think. | |
| 18:17 | pianohacker | ahhh, that kind of tradeoff :) |
| 18:17 | But the speed and search quality are good enough? | |
| 18:17 | jcamins | I think possibly using Solr also entails deciding not to use serials or acquisitions, but I'm not sure about that. |
| 18:17 | I have no idea. | |
| 18:17 | magnuse | pianohacker: and there has been worries about the footprint of Solr for small libraries with small servers - so it's desirable to keep Zebra as an option |
| 18:18 | jcamins | I was never able to get it working. |
| 18:18 | pianohacker | Okay, cool. Thanks |
| 18:18 | magnuse | search rewrite? |
| 18:18 | wahanui | hmmm... search rewrite is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC |
| 18:18 | pianohacker | Was curious, as that was just starting when I left |
| 18:18 | bag | interesting jcamins I hadn't thought along the lines of not using serials etc… I just thought what you said above that some libraries are only in CPAN |
| 18:19 | jcamins | bag: I'm not sure about that. I know that authorities aren't supported, but now that I think about it, I'm not sure I saw any hooks for Solr in Acq or Serials. |
| 18:19 | cait | there seems also to be a lto of bugs right now |
| 18:19 | a search for solr in bugzilla might bring them up | |
| 18:20 | jcamins | magnuse: I don't think anyone is using it in production. Rennes switched to Zebra. |
| 18:20 | cait | i think it's not quite ready yet - clrh would know |
| 18:20 | magnuse | jcamins: oh, that might be, i'm definitely not up to date on it |
| 18:21 | pianohacker | It makes me so happy that having to install things from CPAN is now considered odd and a bit of a showstopper |
| 18:21 | magnuse | hehe |
| 18:21 | pianohacker | The only thing I've ever installed that was harder than Koha 2.2, for instance, was Request Tracker |
| 18:21 | bag | HA |
| 18:21 | yeah 2.2 was a harder one… I think dev-week was up there too | |
| 18:22 | I like the current install :D | |
| 18:22 | magnuse | apt-get install koha-common? |
| 18:22 | pianohacker | yeah |
| 18:23 | even git installs are so much better | |
| 18:23 | no undocumented requirements, etc. | |
| 18:23 | adding zebra made things tougher, but, well, the alternative :) | |
| 18:34 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9665: QA follow up fixing tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]800a997dd3059e3df> / Bug 9665: add RIS and BIBTEXT bibliographic record export to staff interface <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0820bfeda0d4d196a> |
| 19:29 | nengard | anyone around who knows some jquery? If I want to hide an option from the privacy pull down in the opac what am i missing in this: |
| 19:29 | http://catalog.frenchcc.bywate[…]a/opac-privacy.pl | |
| 19:29 | oops | |
| 19:29 | $("#privacy option[value='0']").hide(); | |
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| 19:36 | rangi | @later tell tcohen http://qunitjs.com/ <-- will help you refactor without causing regressions :) |
| 19:36 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:37 | rangi | jcamins: that was mean! :) |
| 19:37 | cait | morning rangi :) |
| 19:38 | rangi | heya cait |
| 19:38 | gmcharlt | howdy rangi |
| 19:41 | rangi | heya gmcharlt |
| 19:41 | wahanui | gmcharlt is, like, an expert in all things library technology |
| 19:41 | rangi | see jcamins, not me! |
| 19:43 | * magnuse | waves |
| 19:44 | * cait | waves back |
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| 20:10 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10182: Stay on the same tab after saving a biblio <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]662dcc7fb7e7aba48> |
| 20:12 | jcamins | rangi: but it's true! I consider you an expert in everything! |
| 20:15 | * cait | nods |
| 20:15 | jcamins | Hey, which university in Iraq has BibLibre been working with? |
| 20:18 | magnuse | possibly maybe "Koya University", based on this: http://comments.gmane.org/gman[…]s.koha.devel/9004 ? |
| 20:19 | jcamins | magnuse: no, I'm pretty sure Koya is still self-hosted. |
| 20:19 | magnuse | okey, just a guess :-) |
| 20:26 | jcamins | Hey, do we have a list of security advisories? |
| 20:27 | cait | ? |
| 20:28 | jcamins | Something to point to when saying "seriously, you probably shouldn't be using 3.2.5 in production." |
| 20:34 | Wow... I'd forgotten how many security releases we had in the 3.2.x line. | |
| 20:36 | cait | yeah there were some... |
| 20:36 | jcamins | Three! |
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| 20:41 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9728: XISBN use bibliographic search instead of SQL to fetch related bibs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6a1b26c73d3fcebaa> |
| 20:41 | cait | jcamins: three is some. |
| 20:45 | magnuse | but it's less than 4! |
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| 21:38 | eythian | hi |
| 21:43 | cait | hi eythian |
| 21:43 | eythian | hello cait |
| 21:43 | wahanui | hello cait are you here? |
| 21:43 | pianohacker | hello eythian |
| 21:43 | hmm | |
| 21:43 | hello pianohacker are you there? | |
| 21:43 | hello pianohacker | |
| 21:43 | wahanui | hello pianohacker are you there? |
| 21:44 | eythian | heh |
| 21:44 | pianohacker | hah! very flexible with its conjugations of "to be" |
| 21:44 | eythian | no, just 'is' and 'are' :) |
| 21:44 | no "will be" for example :) | |
| 21:44 | pianohacker | that's good! We don't need wahanui to be smart |
| 21:44 | it wouldn'd be half as entertaining otherwise | |
| 21:46 | magnuse | kia ora eythian |
| 21:47 | eythian | hei magnuse |
| 21:47 | magnuse | :-) |
| 21:47 | * gmcharlt | firmly opposes anything that would lead to wahanui thinking it can do anything other than live in the moment; doing otherwise risks it singularity-ing its way up to having a time machine, and that's just no good |
| 21:49 | * cait | perks up at the mentioning of a time machine |
| 21:51 | * eythian | will accept patches to add conjugations such as "woil haven be" |
| 21:51 | gmcharlt | eythian++ |
| 21:52 | rangi | bug 10482 |
| 21:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10482 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , add items limit and sort to rebuild zebra |
| 21:52 | eythian | Not the future perfect tense, however, as it was discovered not to be. |
| 21:52 | rangi | is that needed now we use xml ? |
| 21:52 | gmcharlt | rangi: I rather suspect it is not needed, or can be made to be not needed |
| 21:52 | cait | rangi: was wondering the same |
| 21:53 | magnuse | i had some weirdness after i addded ~3000 items, but i did not get around to investigate |
| 21:55 | jcamins | I think one of the search routines forced binary MARC. |
| 21:55 | magnuse | see also bug 10473 |
| 21:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10473 major, P1 - high, ---, amitddng135, Needs Signoff , Max length should be 2 digit for adding multiple copies in add items page |
| 21:55 | jcamins | I think I fixed that, though. |
| 21:55 | rangi | ah right |
| 21:59 | jcamins | magnuse: I wondered about that bug as well. |
| 22:00 | magnuse | jcamins: i just disagreed with it and set it to "in discussion" |
| 22:01 | jcamins | magnuse++ # coming up with a response that wasn't "are you kidding me?" |
| 22:01 | You know what I was thinking would be useful? | |
| 22:01 | cait | magnuse++ yeah goo done |
| 22:01 | pianohacker | There is an argument to be made for the maximum amount roughly matching the size of the field, but I don't think that was the intended purpose of the patch |
| 22:02 | magnuse | heh, i was just hoping i wasn't too impolite/unfriendly/abrasive/what have you |
| 22:02 | cait | nope i don't think so |
| 22:02 | jcamins | I was thinking that building search analytics into Koha might be useful. |
| 22:02 | magnuse | jcamins: not quite sure what you mean, but it does sound good :-) |
| 22:03 | jcamins | magnuse: I'd be interested to know how complex the searches that people are doing in the OPAC are... how much boolean logic, what indexes, and how many records they look at. |
| 22:03 | magnuse | ah yes, very cool! |
| 22:04 | i can sort of guess at the result, but anyway ;-) | |
| 22:04 | jcamins | So, for example, "people doing title searches generally look at only one result" or "people doing complex boolean searches frequently look at dozens of records." |
| 22:04 | Yeah, so can I. | |
| 22:04 | pianohacker | would be a perfect use case for a plugin, though you would have to dive into that can of worms |
| 22:04 | jcamins | pianohacker: that wouldn't be suitable for a plugin at all. |
| 22:04 | There are no hooks to support that functionality. | |
| 22:05 | Hooks to support that sort of thing might be cool, but that's definitely not something I'll be working on. | |
| 22:05 | pianohacker | jcamins: What are the available hooks? |
| 22:05 | jcamins | pianohacker: you can add a link from the Tools screen or the Reports screen. |
| 22:05 | cait | if we would store the searches somewhere you could... |
| 22:05 | hm not really | |
| 22:06 | rangi | we do store them |
| 22:06 | for logged in users | |
| 22:06 | pianohacker | jcamins: Ah, okay. So you could make the staff-side interface, but hooking it into the OPAC would be impossible |
| 22:06 | rangi | rangi-- |
| 22:06 | huginn | rangi: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. |
| 22:06 | pianohacker | hey now |
| 22:06 | rangi++ | |
| 22:06 | cait | rangi: what are yo udoing? |
| 22:06 | pianohacker | none of that |
| 22:06 | wahanui | none of that is currently in Koha. If you want to use it, you'll be pretty much on my own. |
| 22:06 | rangi | (i couldnt resist a bad prism joke) |
| 22:06 | cait | rangi++ |
| 22:07 | magnuse | rangi++ |
| 22:07 | jcamins | The issue I have with using saved searches is that the useful analytics I'm envisioning would be anonymous, and those aren't. |
| 22:09 | You could do log file analysis, but on the balance I suspect it would be less trouble to just patch Koha to track it for you. | |
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| 22:17 | jcamins | And I'm not really a huge fan of Piwik and JS-based tracking. |
| 22:18 | eythian | really, there's no reason to use it. |
| 22:18 | (in this context) | |
| 22:19 | we have the data ourselves. Storing searches with a cumulative count and a day attached would let you build pretty graphs. | |
| 22:20 | http://www.google.com/trends/ <-- then you could do stuff similar but different to this | |
| 22:20 | jcamins | Exactly. |
| 22:21 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Main_Page/es <-- cool |
| 22:21 | jcamins | Preferably with slightly less emphasis on US pop culture. ;) |
| 22:21 | eythian | http://www.google.com/trends/e[…]20software&cmpt=q <-- e.g. |
| 22:21 | jcamins | Nice! |
| 22:21 | eythian | jcamins: hey, it's the only culture you have ;) |
| 22:22 | (yogurt in the fridge doesn't count!) | |
| 22:22 | I wonder what happened in september '08 | |
| 22:22 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 22:22 | They started tracking? | |
| 22:23 | eythian | http://www.google.com/trends/e[…]%20shuttle&cmpt=q <-- narp, not that. |
| 22:24 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 22:24 | Huh. | |
| 22:24 | Interesting. | |
| 22:24 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 22:25 | pianohacker | huh. check the region on "koha software" |
| 22:26 | eythian | yeah, that's slightly odd too |
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| 22:31 | * jcamins | contemplates forward/next browsing in the staff client. |
| 22:31 | magnuse | jcamins++ |
| 22:37 | jcamins | I would like to do it in a way that works well. |
| 22:38 | And I'm on the fence about whether it should be JS-based or not. | |
| 22:38 | * magnuse | is generally in favour of things that work well |
| 22:43 | * jcamins | ponders. |
| 22:43 | jcamins | Does anyone have any examples of previous/next browsing that are well-done? |
| 22:44 | pianohacker | jcamins: what exactly do you mean by that? |
| 22:44 | jcamins | pianohacker: elegant implementations in F/OSS software. |
| 22:44 | I guess that was redundant. | |
| 22:44 | The last 'S' is Software. | |
| 22:45 | eythian | jcamins: I think perhaps, what do you mean by "previous/next browsing"? |
| 22:45 | Like, history modification, or paging, or...? | |
| 22:46 | jcamins | eythian: oh. Paging like we have on the OPAC where you can click on a link to go to the next item in the results list without returning to the list. |
| 22:46 | eythian | oh, I see. |
| 22:48 | pianohacker | oh! That makes sense |
| 22:54 | NateC | ok im out |
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| 23:03 | magnuse | eythian++ for the suggestion on bug 10473 |
| 23:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10473 major, P1 - high, ---, amitddng135, In Discussion , Max length should be 2 digit for adding multiple copies in add items page |
| 23:05 | * magnuse | calls it a day (and the best part of a night) |
| 23:05 | magnuse | have fun #koha! |
| 23:06 | rangi | cya magnuse |
| 23:06 | cait | night all |
| 23:06 | wahanui | goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
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| 23:08 | eythian | wahanui: candy is at http://candies.aniwey.net/ |
| 23:08 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 23:09 | cjh | awesome game, spent far too long playing it. |
| 23:14 | jcamins | Really? Does it get more interesting after the first ten seconds? |
| 23:14 | It appears to just be a counter that goes up. | |
| 23:16 | cjh | I have no idea what you are talking about... |
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| 23:16 | jcamins | cjh: the link eythian shared? |
| 23:16 | cjh | :) |
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| 23:20 | dcook | morning #koha |
| 23:20 | cjh | morning dcook |
| 23:20 | dcook | hey ya cjh :) |
| 23:20 | jcamins | So here's a question: is it necessary to plan for multiple simultaneous searches in a single session, or can I make the one-search-at-a-time assumption that the OPAC does? |
| 23:22 | eythian | jcamins: don't do the thing that means tabs break everything. |
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| 23:23 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 23:23 | dcook | hey mtompset |
| 23:23 | wahanui | i guess mtompset is disliking the silent warnings flooding his error logs. |
| 23:23 | jcamins | eythian: right, I planned not to do that. |
| 23:23 | mtompset | Could I get a second set of eyes, to make sure I'm not seeing things. |
| 23:23 | eythian | well, that sounds like what you're asking, or isn't it? |
| 23:24 | jcamins | eythian: oh, I see what you're sayin. |
| 23:24 | *saying | |
| 23:24 | mtompset | I'm looking at C4::Members.pm |
| 23:24 | jcamins | eythian: as it happens, tabs (i.e. \t) break the OPAC browser. |
| 23:24 | eythian | oh, no. I mean browser tabs |
| 23:24 | ah | |
| 23:24 | dcook | mtompset: You poor soul |
| 23:24 | jcamins | Right, good point. |
| 23:24 | mtompset | There's a sub fixup_cardnumber. |
| 23:25 | Just before the sub there is a @weightings declaration. | |
| 23:25 | There are 7 numbers in it, right? | |
| 23:26 | ~ line 889 in master. | |
| 23:27 | But in the fixup_cardnumber, there is a $i loop. | |
| 23:27 | ~924. | |
| 23:27 | It runs from 0-7. | |
| 23:27 | That's 8 numbers. | |
| 23:28 | jcamins | That looks wrong to me. If you're using use vars, don't you not use my? |
| 23:28 | mtompset | I didn't write that code, so don't ask me. :) |
| 23:28 | jcamins | Actually, I was asking because I thought eythian probably knew. |
| 23:29 | eythian | use vars is like 'our' |
| 23:29 | mtompset | I'm just trying to make sense of it, because something is fishy about this function in general, and the more I work through it. The more I find ugly. |
| 23:29 | eythian | so I'd expect using 'my' to locally scope them, which probably isn't what you want. |
| 23:30 | jcamins | eythian: that's what I'd expect, too. |
| 23:30 | Thanks. | |
| 23:30 | mtompset | 'our' or 'use vars' would be more Plak friendly? |
| 23:30 | eythian | I'd generally avoid using either |
| 23:30 | mtompset | (and more what is expected?) |
| 23:30 | eythian | It's rare to need them |
| 23:30 | (not that it doesn't happen, mind) | |
| 23:31 | rangi | the only reason we need to use an our, is a hack around the fact we are running through plack with a cgi wrapper |
| 23:31 | it should be avoided at all opportunities | |
| 23:31 | jcamins | Yeah, that should be a my inside the subroutine. |
| 23:31 | mtompset | Aaaaaa.... more ugly. |
| 23:31 | jcamins | And probably not hardcoded. |
| 23:31 | mtompset: no, putting the variable inside the routine is less ugly. | |
| 23:32 | mtompset | cd kohaclone;grep "weightings" `find .` |
| 23:32 | C4::Input.pm | |
| 23:32 | * eythian | points out grep -r |
| 23:33 | mtompset | AAAAAA.... more ugly. |
| 23:33 | jcamins | mtompset: `grep -R C4::Members::weightings *` |
| 23:33 | pianohacker | ag! |
| 23:33 | eythian | less ugly |
| 23:33 | mtompset | checkdigit looks awfully like fixup_cardnumber. |
| 23:33 | jcamins | Or -r. Whichever. |
| 23:33 | mtompset | I'm not reacting to your suggestion of grep -r, eythian. |
| 23:33 | eythian | oh, right |
| 23:36 | mtompset | should the validation and the generation functions for cardnumber be split like that? |
| 23:39 | Okay, I over-reacted a little, but the latter does prove my point that there's a code issue with the former. :) | |
| 23:40 | eythian | code issues aren't a terrible surprise :) |
| 23:43 | mtompset | Eeeww... though the parameter names seems to be a misnomer in the case of checkdigit. If you choose kapito checkdigits and nounique=0, then it really is unique, because it checks the checksum digit. |
| 23:47 | * dcook | points to what eythian said |
| 23:47 | dcook | As much as I might complain about some parts, the only solution is to write a fix :p |
| 23:56 | mtompset | I am working on a fix... it's just that the scope of my fix keeps creeping, it would seem. |
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