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| 00:02 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6413 - QA Followup - Remove extra table column header <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2a0e1040386d45d90> / Bug 6413 - QA Followup - Add notes for 'Pay selected' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ebb88281b442113b3> / Bug 6413 follow-up: fixing capital case & tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git; |
| 00:03 | eythian | hi |
| 00:15 | jcamins: don't suppose you're around? | |
| 00:22 | tcohen | wahanui: release maintenance is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]lease_maintenance |
| 00:22 | wahanui | OK, tcohen. |
| 00:22 | tcohen | release maintenance? |
| 00:22 | wahanui | hmmm... release maintenance is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]lease_maintenance |
| 00:22 | rangi | sweet |
| 00:23 | tcohen | is WIP rangi, but at list I sumarized what u told us |
| 00:23 | rangi | chris n did it too |
| 00:24 | i think its a crazy chris thing | |
| 00:24 | * cjh | gulps |
| 00:24 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1189: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1189/ |
| 00:24 | tcohen | heh |
| 00:24 | jenkins_koha | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8215 - Course Reserves |
| 00:24 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8215 follow-up encoding for branches & itemtypes | |
| 00:24 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8215: Followup FIX QA issues | |
| 00:24 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8215 - Add Course Reserves - QA Followup | |
| 00:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8215 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add Course Reserves |
| 00:24 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8215: Followup Fix confirmation links for delete course and item |
| 00:24 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8215: FIX ergonomic issue : 'Unchanged()' | |
| 00:24 | * Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) run new files through perltidy | |
| 00:24 | * Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) make sure C4::CourseReserves doesn't export anything | |
| 00:24 | * Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) don't allow deleting course reserves from OPAC | |
| 00:24 | * Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) avoid SQL syntax error in logs | |
| 00:24 | * Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) rename GetItemReservesInfo | |
| 00:24 | * Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) remove extraneous underscore in template | |
| 00:24 | * Galen Charlton: bug 8215: DBRev 3.13.00.001 for course reserves | |
| 00:24 | * Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) avoid spurious warning in Apache log | |
| 00:25 | Starting build #44 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 00:28 | rangi | hmm why didnt the db change kick in |
| 00:28 | + ./installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl | |
| 00:28 | DBD::mysql::db do failed: Can't create table 'koha.#sql-620e_4a2c2' (errno: 150) at ./installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 6878. | |
| 00:28 | DBD::mysql::db do failed: Can't create table 'koha.#sql-620e_4a2c2' (errno: 150) at ./installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 6900. | |
| 00:29 | foreign key stuff | |
| 00:29 | gmcharlt | wheeee |
| 00:29 | tcohen | as long as you don't take on release maintenance, you are safe cjh |
| 00:29 | rangi | that might need to be tested on a populated db |
| 00:30 | or at least more populated | |
| 00:30 | cjh | tcohen: glad I didnt make that mistake! |
| 00:30 | gmcharlt | rangi: 'twas |
| 00:30 | rangi | interesting |
| 00:30 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 00:30 | rangi | wonder what the error is, ill investigate a bit later |
| 00:30 | tcohen | oh, don't tell me... you... recently.... |
| 00:30 | cjh | it is too late for me :( |
| 00:31 | tcohen | heh |
| 00:31 | gmcharlt | rangi: yeah, I've observed on many occassions that MySQL won't create a FK on the first go |
| 00:32 | tcohen | cjh, if you find things to improve in the proposed workflow i'd like to hear it |
| 00:36 | cjh | have to have a read, looking forward to finding out how everything ticks :) |
| 00:38 | tcohen | I forgot to mention we should *update bugzilla* |
| 00:41 | gmcharlt | rangi: show innodb status (as the mysql root user) might help |
| 00:50 | tcohen | bye #koha |
| 00:57 | rangi | thanks gmcharlt will give that a try |
| 01:08 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #44: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/44/ |
| 01:08 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9508: Standardize the dateformat value from C4::Auth | |
| 01:09 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 9508 follow-up : replacing tabs by spaces | |
| 01:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9508 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , the dateformat variable is not standardized in template files |
| 01:11 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1190 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1188 6 hr 47 min ago) |
| 01:14 | verbiest joined #koha | |
| 01:17 | zebran00b joined #koha | |
| 01:26 | zebran00b | So what does everybody think of the LibLime distro? |
| 01:26 | eythian | ... |
| 01:26 | .... | |
| 01:26 | ! | |
| 01:26 | zebran00b | as I suspected |
| 01:27 | ibeardslee | oh thanks we'd only just got eythian settled down after last time someone mentioned that ;) |
| 01:28 | zebran00b | eythian: have you tried it? |
| 01:28 | eythian | no |
| 01:28 | zebran00b | neither have I but they seem... shifty |
| 01:28 | eythian | yes |
| 01:28 | trea | really? >.> |
| 01:29 | zebran00b | trea: I don't really trust anyone who asks me for my email before letting me download "open source" software |
| 01:29 | trea | ah k |
| 01:30 | zebran00b | trea: never tried it, might be a good product, but their marketing department also was a bit frustrating by email |
| 01:32 | jcamins | eythian: now I am. |
| 01:32 | zebran00b | eythian: I figured out where I can place my wiki within my Koha instance - /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs. Is that messed up or is that decent? |
| 01:32 | eythian | zebran00b: I wouldn't. |
| 01:32 | jcamins | zebran00b: we think it's a shame that they call something so obviously not Koha "Koha." |
| 01:32 | eythian | I'd set up apache properly to understand where you put it, and not put it somewhere where it could be upset by a future koha update. |
| 01:33 | jcamins: just having some oddness with authority linking. | |
| 01:33 | i.e., some things aren't linking that I think should be. | |
| 01:33 | jcamins | Do you have an example? |
| 01:36 | eythian | jcamins: from 690$a: <subfield code="a">Emergency Management Hazards and Disasters</subfield> |
| 01:36 | and from the auth record: <datafield tag="150" ind1=" " ind2=" "> | |
| 01:36 | <subfield code="a">Emergency Management Hazards and Disasters</subfield> | |
| 01:36 | jcamins | eythian: that's a 690. |
| 01:37 | eythian | yep |
| 01:37 | it's set up in the framework to link | |
| 01:37 | jcamins | Yeah, but C4::Linker doesn't respect the frameworks. |
| 01:37 | Since other than that C4::Linker is awesome, I used it anyway. | |
| 01:37 | eythian | that might be problematical. |
| 01:38 | jcamins | Or whatever it's called. |
| 01:38 | Not C4::Linker. | |
| 01:38 | C4::Heading? | |
| 01:38 | eythian | C4::Linker::LastMatch is what I last tried |
| 01:39 | jcamins: any way I could make it work? | |
| 01:39 | it should really work for 690 anyway, given that's a topic term field. | |
| 01:39 | jcamins | eythian: right, I wrote C4::Linker. It's C4::Heading that's the problem. |
| 01:39 | Yeah, just add a mapping for 690. | |
| 01:40 | There's a hash. | |
| 01:40 | You'll know it when you see it. | |
| 01:40 | eythian | ah OK |
| 01:40 | jcamins | C4::Heading::MARC21 or some such. |
| 01:40 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 01:58 | dani left #koha | |
| 02:16 | zebran00b | I plan to wipe my server and reinstall Koha. Can I copy over an admin settings file or something to restore my system preferences? |
| 02:16 | jcamins | You can back up your database. |
| 02:17 | zebran00b | system prefs are in there too? |
| 02:17 | jcamins | Yep. |
| 02:17 | Everything. | |
| 02:17 | wahanui | i heard everything was grilled |
| 02:18 | jcamins | Except, obviously, database credentials. |
| 02:21 | And any Zebra customizations. | |
| 02:22 | And your wiki if you put it in the Koha tree (but don't do that!). | |
| 02:22 | rangi | just use Alias /wiki/ /where/the/stuff/is/ |
| 02:22 | dont actually put it in the tree | |
| 02:22 | jcamins | Right. |
| 02:25 | eythian | http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tom7/pa[…]tom7whatwords.pdf <-- jcamins |
| 02:26 | jcamins | lol |
| 02:26 | eythian | it's quite the paper, I've put it aside for reading at a later time :) |
| 02:27 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 02:27 | Project Koha_master build #1190: FIXED in 1 hr 17 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1190/ | |
| 02:27 | * Chris Hall: Bug 6413 Added ability to add a note when paying or writing off a fine | |
| 02:27 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 6413 follow-up: fixing capital case & tabs | |
| 02:27 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 6413 - QA Followup - Add notes for 'Pay selected' | |
| 02:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6413 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Notes in Fines doing wonky things |
| 02:27 | jenkins_koha | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 6413 - QA Followup - Remove extra table column header |
| 02:27 | Starting build #1191 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) | |
| 02:29 | jcamins | That's kind of incredible. |
| 02:30 | rangi | gmcharlt: you were right it worked the second time |
| 02:48 | jcamins | Yikes. Apparently running Time Machine and a VirtualBox VM at the same time is a bad idea. |
| 02:48 | How much processing power should rsync really take? | |
| 02:48 | trea | all of it. |
| 02:48 | jcamins | trea: oh, right. |
| 02:49 | Silly me. | |
| 02:52 | zebran00b | thanks rangi, jcamins. Yeah, I just figured out the Alias bit, thanks for confirming. I don't remember having any zebra customizations, and I'll probably write a new crontab... |
| 02:52 | jcamins | zebran00b: i you're reinstalling, I have a suggestion. |
| 02:52 | Use packages. | |
| 02:52 | *if | |
| 02:52 | zebran00b | yes, I was going to use the debian package |
| 02:52 | jcamins | In that case, you will not need to edit crontab at all. |
| 02:53 | At least, not for Koha. | |
| 02:53 | For other things, perhaps, but this is #koha not #otherthings. ;) | |
| 02:56 | zebran00b | really? Because that's been my whole problem with my current install, search isn't automatically indexing newly uploaded records |
| 02:56 | jcamins | If that happens with packages, it means that you edited the crontab, thereby breaking things. |
| 02:56 | The packages are set up with indexing out of the box. | |
| 02:56 | zebran00b | i c |
| 02:58 | jcamins: if I use the current stable version package, do I have to install anything like apache in debian before running the package? Or does it include that along with all dependencies? | |
| 02:58 | wizzyrea | packages? |
| 02:58 | wahanui | rumour has it packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 02:58 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 02:58 | read that | |
| 02:58 | jcamins | wizzyrea++ # beat me to it. |
| 02:59 | wizzyrea | apache it should take care of, mysql it won't |
| 03:00 | zebran00b | thx wizzyrea |
| 03:00 | wizzyrea | but really - read the wiki page :) |
| 03:01 | zebran00b | on it |
| 03:31 | eythian | jcamins: if you're feeling like you have too much free time now, bug 10308 wants a signoff :) |
| 03:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10308 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Authorities linker should handle the "local subject added entry" fields. |
| 03:31 | jcamins | eythian: thanks, but I'm not. :P |
| 03:31 | And I'm taking a Koha break until June 1. | |
| 03:32 | However, that'll be the first thing I sign off on after the hiatus. :) | |
| 03:32 | eythian | You'll be back before then. First the hands start shaking, then you'll have trouble forming words, then you'll notice you're putting an H book inbetween A and B, and your so-called hiatus will be over :) |
| 03:32 | jcamins | lol |
| 03:33 | But not tonight. | |
| 03:33 | Bedtime now. | |
| 03:33 | Good night, #koha. | |
| 03:33 | eythian | later |
| 03:33 | gmcharlt | eythian++ |
| 03:33 | wizzyrea | eythian++ hehe |
| 03:33 | trea | :D |
| 03:42 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1191: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1191/ |
| 04:13 | dcook | :S |
| 04:13 | Can someone check a column name for me in the import_batches table? | |
| 04:14 | cjh | dcook: http://schema.koha-community.o[…]port_batches.html |
| 04:14 | dcook | I just thought of that after I typed that, hehe |
| 04:14 | cjh | :) |
| 04:14 | dcook | Thanks :) |
| 04:14 | Hmm, that looks wrong as well.. | |
| 04:15 | Or maybe that is right... | |
| 04:15 | * dcook | flails |
| 04:15 | cjh | probably one of those :) |
| 04:15 | cait joined #koha | |
| 04:15 | dcook | hehe |
| 04:15 | hey ya cait | |
| 04:16 | eythian | wahanui: remind cait later |
| 04:16 | wahanui | @later tell cait it's early, go back to bed |
| 04:16 | huginn | wahanui: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:16 | wahanui | huginn: what? |
| 04:16 | huginn | wahanui: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 04:16 | wahanui | ...but i'll give you the answer as soon as rda is <reply>... |
| 04:16 | cait | eythian: poor wahanui |
| 04:17 | eythian | wahanui: poor wahanui is <reply>Will he ever win# |
| 04:17 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 04:17 | eythian | wahanui: poor wahanui =~ s/#/?/ |
| 04:17 | wahanui | OK, eythian |
| 04:17 | cjh | that works? |
| 04:17 | eythian | course it does |
| 04:18 | cjh | poor wahanui? |
| 04:18 | wahanui | Will he ever win? |
| 04:18 | cjh | excellent. |
| 04:28 | sanju joined #koha | |
| 04:29 | cait | wahanui botsnack cookies |
| 04:29 | wahanui | thanks cait :) |
| 04:29 | mtj | a little off-topic, but hey… -> http://twentytwowords.com/2013[…]lets-10-pictures/ |
| 04:30 | dcook | cjh: Issue with my backport. Balance is restored to the force :). |
| 04:46 | cait | mtj: that looks quite dangerous |
| 04:49 | mtj | yeah - if the tower fell the wrong way, it would certainly land on the people |
| 04:51 | * dcook | thinks his fingers are almost too cold to type |
| 04:51 | dcook | @wunder sydney, australia |
| 04:51 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 14.0°C (2:30 PM EST on May 22, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 04:52 | dcook | Bah. This country needs to get some heaters... |
| 04:53 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 04:53 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (4:00 PM NZST on May 22, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Falling). |
| 04:53 | eythian | ha ha. |
| 04:53 | dcook | Must be a first :p |
| 04:58 | cjh | this morning I couldnt see the sky :( |
| 04:58 | dcook | I just noticed the rain :( |
| 04:58 | cait | raining here too |
| 04:58 | wizzyrea | hey 15 is pleasant |
| 04:59 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 04:59 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.2°C (6:55 AM CEST on May 22, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:02 | eythian | wahanui: wunder is <reply>http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/12/20 |
| 05:02 | wahanui | ...but wunder is not really correct. wellington also has light rain. put that humidity up ;-)... |
| 05:02 | eythian | wahanui: wunder is also <reply>http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/12/20 |
| 05:02 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 05:03 | cait | this light rain is going ot get me really wet on my way to work if it doesn't stop soon |
| 05:11 | mtj | peeps, has anyone ever spotted a weird xslt error like this… -> http://koha.uac.bj/cgi-bin/koh[…]=41454&save=Allez |
| 05:11 | cait | no |
| 05:12 | mtj | ...ive just bumped into this, on a 3.10.4 koha |
| 05:12 | cait | and it looks like the thing breaking it is german? |
| 05:12 | Biotechnologie... | |
| 05:13 | eythian | those darn Germans breaking things. |
| 05:13 | and their germs. | |
| 05:13 | cait | aha |
| 05:13 | you forgot to mention the boring beer | |
| 05:13 | eythian | I did |
| 05:15 | mtj | uac.bj's koha looks to be an old 3.0.1 version, but a similar bug looks to still exist |
| 05:18 | tho, the difference is that i am getting a similar error on page 3, of a staff keyword search | |
| 05:19 | ie… http://koha/cgi-bin/koha/catal[…]=foobar&offset=40 | |
| 05:20 | so i guess there is some glitchy string in one of the bibs on page 3, thats causing xslt to barf | |
| 05:22 | * dcook | has been wondering what would happen in that case |
| 05:23 | dcook | If you have bad data, your XSLT detail and search displays bust, no? |
| 05:23 | The TT templates seem more forgiving | |
| 05:23 | mtj | some combo of punctuation is causing the xslt transform to blow up |
| 05:23 | dcook | Or rather the perl scripts behind them |
| 05:24 | Which might either be a bug in the XSLT or bad data? | |
| 05:28 | mtj | meh, fone... |
| 05:29 | dcook, yeah, i think that might be the quick-fix for this situ - flick the staff-seach syspref back to TT | |
| 05:29 | … then try to debug the xslt glitch later | |
| 05:30 | hey cait, thanks for your suggestion too :) | |
| 05:32 | woah, i just noticed the end of this line... | |
| 05:32 | "You can adjust xsltMaxDepth (--maxdepth) in order to raise the maximum number of nested template calls and variables/params (currently set to 250)" | |
| 05:35 | 250 sounds like a lot - but i guess that includes everything, not just nested calls... | |
| 05:37 | eythian | it is a lot, but it's also not unreasonable for a declarative parsing language, where you might be handling big XML input files. |
| 05:37 | it's probably a good "not likely to hit in real life, but not likely to use all the RAM if it is it" kinda point. | |
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| 05:47 | mtj | eythian, truth is, i'm not sure what file to edit , to bump that value |
| 05:47 | eythian | mtj: it's not your issue |
| 05:47 | it's the symptom of your issue | |
| 05:48 | cait | looks to me like there is a loop |
| 05:48 | eythian | well, something is recursing infinitely I'd guess |
| 05:48 | cait | have you checked the record that causes it and the function in slimUtils? |
| 05:48 | mtj | yeah, i suspect that too, but would be nice to bump --maxdepth to 1000, to confirm that |
| 05:48 | cait | i think just the same would happen |
| 05:48 | eythian | pull out the marcxml and run the XSLT by hand |
| 05:48 | and I agree with cait | |
| 05:49 | cait | must be a first :P |
| 05:49 | eythian | :) |
| 05:49 | mtj | im poking at the <xsl:template name="chopPunctuation"> function now |
| 05:50 | …with some success (fingers crossed) | |
| 05:51 | s/function/template/ ? :) | |
| 05:51 | eythian | template I suppose |
| 05:51 | it doesn't have funtions, per se. | |
| 05:52 | mtj | yeah, sorry - i'm a bit of a xslt noob |
| 05:57 | yow, its a korean bib title, thats causing the fail | |
| 05:58 | cait | ah |
| 05:58 | interesting, why? | |
| 06:01 | mtj | hmm, not sure why yet... |
| 06:01 | murali joined #koha | |
| 06:01 | murali | hi everyone |
| 06:03 | I have installed koha 3.8.12.....i am unable to send uname and pwd for patrons while creating a new patron.....i ihave postfix mail server installed on my machine | |
| 06:03 | please anyone help me | |
| 06:04 | mtj | murali, hmm, im not sure koha has that feature? |
| 06:04 | eythian | I'm pretty sure it does |
| 06:04 | though, I've never used it, I'm sure I've heard that it's there. | |
| 06:04 | murali | yeah u are ryt eythian |
| 06:05 | even i read it has that feature | |
| 06:05 | but i am unable to send overdue notices also | |
| 06:05 | eythian | however, you'll have to explain a bit more. |
| 06:06 | does any mail work from the machine at all? | |
| 06:06 | from koha? | |
| 06:06 | how did you install koha, with the packages or some other method? | |
| 06:06 | murali | some other method |
| 06:06 | http://kohageek.pbworks.com/w/[…]llation-on-ubuntu | |
| 06:07 | the procedure in this link | |
| 06:08 | eythian | ah, I see. |
| 06:09 | murali | can u pls help me in this regard |
| 06:09 | eythian | you need to answer the other questions before anyone can help. |
| 06:09 | mtj | eythian++, aaah thanks for the correction :) |
| 06:10 | murali | what is the question u want to ask |
| 06:10 | mtj | hey cait, i found the problem… was some glitchy(ish) title data in a record |
| 06:10 | eythian | <eythian> does any mail work from the machine at all? |
| 06:10 | <eythian> from koha? | |
| 06:11 | murali | no from koha any mail is not working |
| 06:11 | mtj | murali, eythian is asking *you* what is the question u want to ask :) |
| 06:11 | eythian | no I'm not |
| 06:11 | I'm asking murali to answer the questions I already asked :) | |
| 06:11 | cait | mtj: it's activated in the sysprefs |
| 06:12 | mtj: globally, only works on manual creation of a new patron | |
| 06:12 | eythian | murali: that's not really an answer. Have you tested sending mail from the machine at all? |
| 06:12 | murali | from terminal iam able to send mail |
| 06:12 | mtj | eythian - oops, so you are :) |
| 06:13 | murali | but from koha iam unable to send |
| 06:13 | eythian | murali: OK, and that goes through postfix all happily? |
| 06:13 | murali | thats what i dont understand actuaaly |
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| 06:13 | mtj | cait, the problem bib's title was '설교의 역사 (1):' |
| 06:13 | murali | the command i used is mail -s "subject" |
| 06:14 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 06:14 | cait | mtj: hm, doesn't look too bad |
| 06:14 | eythian | if you ahve a look in /var/log/mail.info when you do that, you'll see messages from postfix saying what's happening. |
| 06:15 | murali | k i will check once..... |
| 06:15 | eythian | I strongly suspect it is going through there. |
| 06:17 | murali | smtp connect is failed is the error msg in var/log/mail.log |
| 06:18 | eythian | OK, you're going to have to figure that out probably. |
| 06:18 | mtj | cait, yeah… it doesnt look to bad ?! |
| 06:18 | eythian | So you mean that you can't send mail from the terminal and have it go through? |
| 06:18 | murali | and in koha_error_log the error is memberentry.pl: connect to smtp.gmail.com failed (Connection refused) no (more) retries!, referer: http://127.0.1.1:8000/cgi-bin/[…]mp;categorycode=O |
| 06:18 | if i use mailutils iam able to send mail through terminal | |
| 06:19 | mtj | if i edit the chopPunctuation template slightly, i fix the xslt crash |
| 06:19 | eythian | well, Koha is attempting to send direct to gmail, which is not a good thing to be doing. |
| 06:19 | I don't know why it'd do that. | |
| 06:19 | mtj | from <xsl:when test="contains('.,;/: ' |
| 06:19 | to <xsl:when test="contains('.,;/:' | |
| 06:19 | eythian | did you change something in Koha to make it do that? |
| 06:19 | murali | no ididn't change anything in koha |
| 06:20 | i have just installed postfix and tried to craete a new patron | |
| 06:20 | mtj | ie: removing the ' ' char, at the end |
| 06:20 | murali | and this is the error msg in error log |
| 06:20 | eythian | there's no reason I can think of that Koha would be trying to talk directly to gmail. |
| 06:21 | murali | should i configure somethng in Mail::Sendpail.pm |
| 06:21 | eythian | no |
| 06:21 | did you change something there? | |
| 06:21 | murali | no |
| 06:21 | eythian | hmm |
| 06:22 | when you send from the terminal, you said it says "smtp connect is failed" | |
| 06:22 | but you also said it worked. | |
| 06:22 | Which is it? | |
| 06:22 | mtj | peeps, i gotta go - hope you get your problem sorted murali... |
| 06:22 | eythian | later mtj |
| 06:22 | mtj | cya, thanks for your help |
| 06:23 | murali | i thought it worked |
| 06:23 | but it might not be working | |
| 06:23 | eythian | did the mail show up at the other end? |
| 06:23 | murali | no |
| 06:23 | eythian | that counts as "not working" to me :) |
| 06:23 | murali | k |
| 06:24 | eythian | your best bet is probably to configure postfix to send mail first. |
| 06:25 | murali | do u have any idea how to configure postfix |
| 06:25 | to send mails | |
| 06:25 | or else any links | |
| 06:25 | eythian | well, you can change its settings by running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix' |
| 06:26 | but you'll have to talk to your network person about the information to give to it. | |
| 06:26 | murali | oh k |
| 06:26 | i will just try it | |
| 06:28 | which option should i select "no configuration or Internet sites or Local only" | |
| 06:29 | eythian | that depends what you want to do with it. Probably the one that lets it talk either to the internet or via a smarthost. |
| 06:30 | But to know which it is, you'll have to know how your network is set up. | |
| 06:31 | murali | iam not a regular linux user.......so please could you tell me how to know how my network is set up |
| 06:32 | eythian | ask the person who set it up. How would you set up a mail client on your desktop computer? You need the same sort of information for sending mail here. |
| 06:35 | * eythian | has to go now too |
| 06:35 | eythian | bye all |
| 06:36 | murali | http://kohageek.pbworks.com/w/[…]ces%20from%20Koha |
| 06:36 | i have installed post fix using this link | |
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| 06:40 | christophe_c | hello 3koha |
| 06:41 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:46 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:46 | wahanui | privet, reiveune |
| 06:48 | cait | bbl |
| 06:54 | drojf | hi magnuse |
| 06:54 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:54 | wahanui | hola, alex_a |
| 06:54 | magnuse | moin drojf |
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| 06:55 | samueld | hi everybody :-) |
| 06:57 | drojf | ihi samueld |
| 06:57 | *hi | |
| 06:59 | woah a huge magpie claims my balcony | |
| 07:02 | dcook | Or at least whoever is implementing them...ugh |
| 07:03 | drojf | would it be too much to to make it a rule for people with koha roles to regularly attend irc? |
| 07:04 | s/to to/to | |
| 07:04 | dcook | Possibly, especially depending on the definition of regular |
| 07:04 | jajm | hello |
| 07:05 | drojf | dcook: i think a good start would be to try to attend more irc meetings than the one you are trying to get elected… |
| 07:05 | hi jajm | |
| 07:06 | dcook | Good point, although that can be tough with timezone differences |
| 07:06 | magnuse | timezones-- |
| 07:07 | drojf | there are likely 2 out of 3 that are possible, i guess |
| 07:07 | dcook | For instance, for the next IRC meeting, I'll be commuting to work |
| 07:07 | I do have an IRC client on my phone though... | |
| 07:07 | drojf | see ;) |
| 07:07 | dcook | But, I would be opting into that, I think |
| 07:07 | Last IRC meeting I did on my phone wasn't too much fun | |
| 07:07 | drojf | i remember slef taking part in a meeting on the phone, standing oitside in the rain :D |
| 07:07 | dcook | I wound up walking the wrong way home :p |
| 07:08 | drojf | lol |
| 07:08 | we wouldn't want that | |
| 07:08 | dcook | Well, I didn't wind up too far away ;) |
| 07:08 | Hmm, you might have a point here. | |
| 07:08 | IRC is pretty much the best way to communicate with folks, it seems | |
| 07:09 | drojf | anyway, if you plan to invest time in koha (like, being a manager of something), i think it would not be too much to ask to come here once in a while. eg. while you are working on your koha stuff |
| 07:11 | dcook | I take it you have someone(s) in mind? |
| 07:11 | Or is this just a general thought? | |
| 07:11 | drojf | atm i am not very happy about how the live dvd thing is turning out. i hope my mail to the list was not too unfriendly |
| 07:12 | i am very sure i talked to vimal about the "use in production" thing before. and now it is what he promotes for "small libraries" | |
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| 07:13 | dcook | Mmm, I just get the digests, so I haven't seen it yet |
| 07:13 | * dcook | waves to asaurat |
| 07:13 | asaurat | hi! |
| 07:13 | dcook | Conflicting information is a tough one.. |
| 07:14 | drojf | bonjour asaurat |
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| 07:17 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:28 | huginn | GERMS!!!! |
| 07:28 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 07:28 | kf | hmpf |
| 07:29 | drojf | i'm happy they don't know about my germ_ness |
| 07:30 | kf | undercover drojf germinator? |
| 07:30 | drojf | looks like it. you are the only true germ :D |
| 07:30 | kf | lol |
| 07:32 | dcook | Hmm, I think it's home time for this misplaced Canadian |
| 07:32 | kf | have a nice evening dcook |
| 07:32 | dcook | Maybe I'll have to try installing Koha from the packages in a couple hours at home... |
| 07:32 | thanks, kf. Have a nice day ^_^ | |
| 07:32 | drojf | or you could use a live dvd ^^ |
| 07:33 | dear log reading person: do not use a live dvd. a package installation is a nice and easy thing to do. | |
| 07:35 | dcook | drojf: hehe |
| 07:35 | I'm pretty excited for the packages. | |
| 07:35 | I wonder a bit how I could do localized packages, but I think jcamins and others have tools/info on that... | |
| 07:36 | Anyway, time for me to blow this popsicle stand | |
| 07:36 | cjh | and then gitify ;) </shameless_plug> |
| 07:36 | dcook | night kf, drojf, et al. |
| 07:36 | drojf | night d… |
| 07:36 | too slow | |
| 07:37 | cjh | drojf++ documenting for the sake of log readers. |
| 07:38 | drojf | :D |
| 07:45 | magnuse | gitify? |
| 07:45 | wahanui | somebody said gitify was at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify |
| 07:45 | kf | oh nice |
| 07:52 | rangi | drojf++ #good email |
| 07:53 | * magnuse | upgrades a dev install to 3.13.00.001 and smiles at the upgrade message for 3.13.00.000 |
| 07:54 | kf | magnuse: same here this morning :) |
| 07:55 | cjh | magnuse: sorry didnt see you ask, thankfully wahanui has it covered :) |
| 07:55 | magnuse: gitify takes a koha-package install and makes it run from a git repo (instead of the /usr/share/ files) | |
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| 08:06 | zebran00b | rangi: u there? |
| 08:06 | wahanui | there is a lot of clean up that could be done. |
| 08:11 | zebran00b | any package experts awake? |
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| 08:32 | mur | hi |
| 09:13 | drojf | yay, it starts to rain the minute i have to leave the house |
| 09:14 | ugh. that is a lot of rain. maybe i postpone my departure a little | |
| 09:19 | rangi | well ive done my bit, you cant help those that don't want help |
| 09:21 | drojf | true |
| 09:22 | rangi | for the record i never said no dvd at kohacon, just that its a bad idea to use one that is not upgradable |
| 09:23 | i also said no, im not going to make one | |
| 09:23 | kf | I read it like that :) |
| 09:26 | * drojf | gives the "leave the house" thing another try. see you later #koha |
| 09:36 | rangi | ok now hes annoying me, which means i should definitely not reply |
| 09:38 | * rangi | files the mail away |
| 09:38 | * kf | hands rangi the cookie jar |
| 09:40 | * rangi | eats them all |
| 09:41 | kf | lol |
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| 09:46 | dcook | Muahaha |
| 09:46 | kf | are you supposed to be here at this time of the day, dcook? |
| 09:47 | dcook | Mmm, nope |
| 09:47 | rangi | hes probably working on a livedvd |
| 09:47 | dcook | Probably :p |
| 09:47 | Just got home from work, so naturally I just installed Xchat and am getting ready to install Koha via the Debian packages | |
| 09:48 | You know...for a novel thing to do and all | |
| 09:48 | Must say that Xchat is much nicer on Linux than Windows... | |
| 09:51 | debian packages? | |
| 09:51 | wahanui | debian packages are at debian.koha-community.org |
| 09:55 | rangi | packages? |
| 09:55 | wahanui | it has been said that packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 09:58 | dcook | The first page links to it too, but thanks :) |
| 09:59 | So far so good | |
| 10:13 | Ok. Everything installed. Time for configuration... | |
| 10:15 | kf | :) |
| 10:15 | dcook | I'm significantly less confident now ;) |
| 10:16 | If I'm not using DNS, do I still need to do "sudo a2enmod rewrite"? | |
| 10:16 | rangi | yes |
| 10:16 | dcook | I thought so, but I wasn't sure. Thanks, rangi :) |
| 10:16 | kf | indradg++ |
| 10:17 | dcook | "Run '/etc/init.d/apache2 restart' to activate new configuration!" |
| 10:17 | But I haven't configured anything yet.. | |
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| 10:18 | kf | you activated the module i think |
| 10:18 | dcook | Yep, that's it |
| 10:19 | * magnuse | gets his interwebs back |
| 10:19 | cheers dcook on | |
| 10:19 | dcook | Thanks, magnuse :) |
| 10:19 | "Listen on port 8080: $EDITOR /etc/apache2/ports.conf" | |
| 10:19 | Now if I were to modify my apache conf here...I'd need to restart afterward.. | |
| 10:20 | magnuse | yup |
| 10:20 | kf | indrag++ |
| 10:20 | * dcook | hasn't really played with apache config files since late 2011 :/ |
| 10:21 | drojf | yay package installation \o/ |
| 10:21 | * magnuse | thinks dcook missed out on a lot of fun, then |
| 10:21 | magnuse | drojf++ |
| 10:22 | dcook | Ahh, I think I follow now.. |
| 10:23 | Almost | |
| 10:23 | * dcook | goes off to read more apache-specific pages |
| 10:23 | rangi | ed is back |
| 10:24 | drojf | dcook: if you are following the wiki, you'll have to restart apache a few times, or just at the end :) |
| 10:24 | dcook | drojf: Yep, following the wiki |
| 10:25 | I figure I'll probably just restart it at the end | |
| 10:29 | Hmm, I'm a bit stumped | |
| 10:30 | Oh well, moving on | |
| 10:40 | Hmm... | |
| 10:41 | Created my instance but no idea how to access it now | |
| 10:42 | drojf | did you do any dns stuff? if no, visit server-ip:8080 |
| 10:42 | dcook | I didn't do any dns stuff, but I also didn't make any changes for apache to listen to 8080 |
| 10:42 | As I couldn't remember how to do that ;) | |
| 10:43 | drojf | ah. i thought you were doing that when i came in |
| 10:43 | dcook | I second-guessed myself in the end |
| 10:43 | drojf | open /etc/apache2/ports.conf or what it is called and add 'Listen 8080' under 'Listen 80' |
| 10:43 | and restart. that should be all | |
| 10:44 | dcook | Nice! I see a web installer! |
| 10:44 | Danke, drojf! | |
| 10:45 | drojf | dcook: gern geschehen :) |
| 10:46 | * rangi | heads to bed |
| 10:46 | kf | night rangi :) |
| 10:46 | drojf | night rangi |
| 10:46 | dcook | night rangi |
| 10:48 | kf | nice effect there - every nick being a bit longer :) |
| 10:49 | dcook | drojf++ |
| 10:49 | I thought it might be as easy as putting Listen 8080, but I wasn't sure because of the NameVirtualHost bit having *:80 | |
| 10:50 | Hmm, can't seem to access the OPAC... | |
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| 10:59 | dcook | Just realized that there are no bib records in a fresh install so maybe zebra is working.. |
| 10:59 | * dcook | really should be out in the rain and not on the computer.. |
| 11:04 | dcook | Ack, out of time |
| 11:04 | Thanks again rangi, drojf | |
| 11:05 | I'll have to look more at this on the weekend\' | |
| 11:22 | magnuse | koha_on_the_weekend++ |
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| 11:43 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 11:43 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on May 22, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:55 | * dcook | might try to sneak a bit more Koha in tonight... |
| 12:03 | dcook | Hmm, zebra working. Yay! |
| 12:04 | A bit laggy though. | |
| 12:04 | I guess it's rare that you'd catalogue a book and then want immediate access to it though | |
| 12:04 | Well, potentially rare... | |
| 12:06 | jcamins | dcook: koha-translate in 3.12 takes care of localizing the packages. |
| 12:06 | kf | dcook: i think there was work on the indexer for the packages... maybe ask tcohen |
| 12:07 | dcook | jcamins: I meant in terms of building my own packages |
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| 12:07 | dcook | kf: Good to know. I want to say there was always a bit of a delay though. We have custom zebra settings at work |
| 12:07 | jcamins | Oh, you just build packages the same way that anyone else does. |
| 12:07 | dcook | Still not able to access the OPAC following the Debian package install.. |
| 12:08 | jcamins: Yeah, I started looking through the wiki, and it mentioned a page to look at. Plus, I seem to remember you having a script in your git repo somewhere. | |
| 12:08 | kf | dcook: which url are you trying? |
| 12:08 | dcook | Much more interested in accessing the OPAC than building packages at this point though |
| 12:08 | Well, I access the staff client by going to 192.168.1.xxx:8080 | |
| 12:09 | But when I try 192.168.1:80, it just gives me Apache's default page | |
| 12:09 | Which makes a certain amount of sense, I suppose.. | |
| 12:09 | jcamins | dcook: `sudo a2dissite default` |
| 12:09 | dcook | Mmm |
| 12:10 | kf | ^^ |
| 12:10 | jcamins | Then restart Apache. |
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| 12:10 | dcook | You are a gentleman and a scholar, jcamins |
| 12:10 | jcamins++ | |
| 12:10 | Hey ya oleonard | |
| 12:10 | oleonard | Hi |
| 12:10 | dcook | Whereabouts do the apache config files live for Debian installs? |
| 12:10 | That don't use the...koha-sites.conf | |
| 12:11 | jcamins | /etc/apache2/sites* |
| 12:13 | dcook | Beautiful! |
| 12:13 | wahanui | it has been said that Beautiful! is that a "moving to jquery (ui)" thing? |
| 12:13 | dcook | Many thanks again, jcamins :) |
| 12:14 | Mmm, and sites-enabled is just a symlink...sweet | |
| 12:14 | magnuse | dcook: look at debian/build-git-snapshot if you want to build your own packages. it's fun! |
| 12:14 | * dcook | claps |
| 12:14 | oleonard | wahanui: forget Beautiful! |
| 12:14 | wahanui | oleonard, I didn't have anything matching beautiful |
| 12:14 | oleonard | wahanui: forget Beautiful\! |
| 12:14 | wahanui | oleonard, I didn't have anything matching beautiful\ |
| 12:14 | kf | oleonard: why not let him keep ti? :) |
| 12:15 | * oleonard | takes all of wahanui's toys for himself |
| 12:15 | magnuse | dcook: the symlinks are created and destroyed by the a2ensite and a2dissite commands, respectively :-) |
| 12:15 | jcamins | dcook: I use this: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]556cac832;hb=HEAD |
| 12:15 | (for building packages) | |
| 12:15 | magnuse | dbic++ |
| 12:17 | kf | oleonard: lol |
| 12:18 | oleonard: no pressure at all intended - but do you have a timeframe in mind for the new templates? :) | |
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| 12:18 | jcamins | oleonard: okay, maybe a little bit of pressure. :P |
| 12:18 | kf | not from me- i am just curious :) |
| 12:19 | magnuse | ooh, yes now we can start nagging oleonard about that ;-) |
| 12:19 | oleonard | The only timeframe I have at the moment is that I want it in 3.14 |
| 12:19 | kf | yay :) |
| 12:19 | magnuse | hehe |
| 12:19 | oleonard | ...and I want it in with plenty of time for y'all to kick the tires. |
| 12:19 | magnuse | good plan |
| 12:19 | even better! :-) | |
| 12:19 | kf | excellent :) |
| 12:20 | oleonard | At this point I'm still not sure what the proper way of submitting it is. |
| 12:20 | kf | hm git branch maybe? |
| 12:20 | we could make use of this pushed for qa status :) | |
| 12:21 | oh | |
| 12:21 | oleonard | I talked before about having it replace CCSR, but I should probably submit it as a third theme for testing purposes. |
| 12:21 | kf | wouldn't it 'must' be new files in a new theme directory? |
| 12:21 | just... | |
| 12:21 | I think maybe naming it 'default' like someone suggested would be good | |
| 12:22 | jcamins | kf: I don't think "pushed for QA" would be necessary, since even without using that several patchsets that were developed in branches got in. :) |
| 12:25 | oleonard | I'm going on the assumption that we want a new default theme, and that we don't want to support more than one theme anymore. |
| 12:25 | jcamins | oleonard: both sound good to me. |
| 12:25 | oleonard | My idea, to reiterate, is to replace CCSR with the new theme in 3.14 |
| 12:26 | Then in 3.16 or whatever, drop prog and make the new theme default | |
| 12:26 | jcamins | Sounds good to me. |
| 12:26 | dcook | oleonard++ |
| 12:27 | kf | oleonard: agreed - i was only wondering if we should drop ccsr directly or one release later |
| 12:27 | dcook | All right. I think it's bedtime. Thanks again jcamins, kf, drojf, rangi, magnuse, and anyone I missed! |
| 12:27 | kf | good night dcook |
| 12:27 | dcook | Your help has been very much appreciated :) |
| 12:28 | I think there is a new convert to using Debian packages ;) | |
| 12:28 | kf | dcook: the real fun starts when you do more than one instance :) |
| 12:28 | magnuse | oleonard++ |
| 12:28 | mtj | i guess we still need to have some non-bootstrap theme in koha, for older web-browsers? |
| 12:28 | kf | yep oleonard++ :) |
| 12:29 | mtj: so it's not degrading? | |
| 12:29 | oleonard | mtj: What problems do you see with older browsers? |
| 12:29 | jcamins | mtj: why? The OPAC already doesn't work with anything older than IE6. |
| 12:30 | mtj | hey, i'm completely fine with bootstrap :) |
| 12:31 | but, other people on the lists were saying that bootstrap didnt run on their old browers | |
| 12:32 | …to which my reply would be 'well, upgrade your browser...?' :) | |
| 12:32 | jcamins | Yeah, if you're using IE5 (or even IE6), you need to not be using it anymore. |
| 12:32 | kf | so what does happen if it does not run? |
| 12:32 | oleonard | If I had my way we would drop support for IE7 too |
| 12:32 | kf | i woudl guess it breaks part of the responsiveness |
| 12:32 | ? | |
| 12:33 | jcamins | kf: well, right now if you try to view the OPAC on IE5 all the Javascript breaks and it's a huge mess. |
| 12:33 | oleonard | Older browsers can't do responsive, but that should just mean that the design isn't responsive. |
| 12:33 | jcamins | And, yes, I know this from experience. |
| 12:34 | Same issue in Safari 1. | |
| 12:34 | oleonard | ...and if you're running IE5 on your phone, you've got serious issues we can't address. :P |
| 12:34 | jcamins | lol |
| 12:34 | Very true. | |
| 12:34 | wahanui | I know. That's why I said it. |
| 12:34 | kf | oleonard: heh |
| 12:35 | mtj | cool, i agree with all of that ^^ |
| 12:35 | kf | mtj: isn't it night for you? |
| 12:36 | mtj: according to your sleeping rhythm you should move to europe :) | |
| 12:38 | oleonard | Okay, so I'll treat my new theme as a third one for now so that it's easy to test alongside the stable ones. |
| 12:38 | jcamins | Makes sense to me. |
| 12:38 | oleonard | Lucky me, I get to play the "maintain your own custom theme" game for a while :) |
| 12:38 | mtj | kf, yeah, 00:30 here - i'm about to head to bed |
| 12:44 | drojf | but... what if my windows live dvd system comes with IE5 and i want to keep using it? |
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| 12:46 | drojf | windows 3.11 live floppy disk |
| 12:47 | jcamins | lol |
| 12:51 | NateC | 'ello |
| 12:53 | magnuse | drojf: that's a question for the google group |
| 12:53 | oleonard | Okay, I had patience enough to jump into the Live DVD thread yesterday, but now it's all gone. |
| 12:54 | All of us who suggest that Live DVDs may not be the best way to run Koha in production are evil elitists and we're all wrong. | |
| 12:54 | jcamins | lol |
| 12:54 | Yeah. | |
| 12:54 | I am sending one e-mail. | |
| 13:15 | magnuse | jcamins++ for letting myshkin have a voice too ;-) |
| 13:16 | druthb | g'mornin', #koha |
| 13:18 | NateC | hey druthb! |
| 13:18 | kf | jcamins++ |
| 13:18 | well myshkin++ really | |
| 13:19 | jcamins | Cats are people too! |
| 13:21 | I could've used my own introduction to Koha as an example of why live cds are problematic. | |
| 13:21 | Oh well. | |
| 13:23 | That message was more than long enough anyway. | |
| 13:24 | drojf | jcamins: there will be plenty of time while the thread continues. wait till paul enters it |
| 13:24 | jcamins | drojf: I'm done. |
| 13:24 | Ooh, mute! | |
| 13:24 | I always forget about mute. | |
| 13:24 | drojf | :D |
| 13:25 | jcamins | Done. |
| 13:25 | * jcamins | leaves. |
| 13:25 | NateC | So Huntsville County Library System has just signed on for an implementation and ongoing support for Koha |
| 13:26 | the significance of this? | |
| 13:26 | magnuse | w00t anyway! |
| 13:26 | kf | wrong channel? |
| 13:26 | NateC | IT was the headquarters of Sirsi Dynix! |
| 13:26 | kf | woot :) |
| 13:26 | NateC | nope right channel |
| 13:26 | kf | IT? |
| 13:26 | wahanui | IT is probably changing a default behaviour |
| 13:26 | NateC | win for Koah |
| 13:26 | kf | oh IT |
| 13:26 | sorry lol | |
| 13:26 | congrats! :) | |
| 13:27 | magnuse | not bad for Koha either ;-) |
| 13:27 | NateC | my point exactly |
| 13:27 | the evil empire is crumbling | |
| 13:27 | slowly | |
| 13:27 | so the "service" rep for Sirsi lives in Huntsville and uses their library | |
| 13:28 | that makes me smile | |
| 13:28 | magnuse | hehe |
| 13:28 | drojf | lol |
| 13:28 | nice | |
| 13:36 | oleonard | Okay, now there's a bug for it: Bug 10309 |
| 13:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10309 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap |
| 13:48 | kf | oleonard++ :) |
| 13:48 | magnuse | oleonard++ |
| 13:49 | oleonard | Thanks, I should tell you guys every time I file a bug ;) |
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| 14:01 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 14:05 | drojf | hi tcohen |
| 14:05 | tcohen | hi drojf |
| 14:06 | * drojf | heads home |
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| 14:17 | tcohen | Bug 9735 is a useful one |
| 14:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Choose language using URL parameters in any page |
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| 14:20 | aj_ | Any idead on how to Set email as username in Patron Self Registration module |
| 14:20 | http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]le-tp5755514.html | |
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| 14:26 | oleonard | aj_: Since there is no preference for that I assume that you can't do that without modifying the code. |
| 14:27 | aj_ | any suggestion what code modification would be required |
| 14:28 | oleonard | aj_: No, but if you search the code for references to one of the prefs, like PatronSelfRegistrationDefaultCategory, you might get some clues. |
| 14:29 | aj_ | thank you! will try that out |
| 14:30 | oleonard | aj_: A worthwhile contribution would be to add a new system preference letting the librarian choose how to create the username |
| 14:32 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 14:32 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #218: "rangi: ... graciousness never ever hurts." (added by mtompset at 08:25 AM, October 07, 2012) |
| 14:39 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #45 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 14:40 | * aj_ | slaps aj_ around a bit with a large fishbot |
| 14:45 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10261: Link to patron files missing from circ-menu.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]453e12b868936a3bf> |
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| 14:51 | rafael | Hi everyone! |
| 14:52 | I am trying to install pt_br translation to koha 3.12 in ubuntu 13.04.... I am getting an Can't find C4 context error. Although I have exported the variable with sudo env PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/ | |
| 14:52 | I get: Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) | |
| 14:52 | kf | i think maybe do export |
| 14:52 | rafael | I tried both env and export |
| 14:52 | kf | how did you install koha? |
| 14:52 | rafael | export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib |
| 14:52 | kf | are you using packages? |
| 14:52 | rafael | kf, following the wiki. Packages the webinstaller |
| 14:52 | kf | ah |
| 14:53 | rafael | kf: yes |
| 14:53 | kf | in 3.12 there are new commands ot handle installations in packages |
| 14:53 | i will find the bug for you | |
| 14:53 | rafael | kf: Thanks |
| 14:53 | kf | i think the problem is the user |
| 14:53 | the new scripts shoudl take care of that | |
| 14:53 | bug 10041 | |
| 14:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10041 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Provide a koha-translate script to aid package users on installing translations |
| 14:54 | kf | hm perhaps try koha-translate --help |
| 14:55 | should be as easy as koha-translate -i pt_br i think | |
| 14:55 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9507: prevent submit: refactor some code in a js file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]940e30fba0819804e> |
| 14:55 | rafael | kf: Thanks a lot... To download the the po files do I need to register in the translation communisties. I found the po files there, but no link to download them.. |
| 14:56 | kf | hm they should be in your version already I think |
| 14:56 | 3.12 was released with the latest po files from pootle | |
| 14:56 | but if you really want newer files (and there are valid reasons) just register and check the 'review' tab - there is the download button | |
| 14:56 | rafael | kf: Thanks a lot! |
| 14:56 | kf | registering needs a confirmed email address, but should work |
| 14:57 | np - hope it works :) | |
| 15:01 | rafael | Installarion of pt-BR worked. I changed the i18n to pt-br in both staff and opac and restarted apache. Reloaded but interface is still in English |
| 15:01 | Do I need to recretae an instance? | |
| 15:08 | tcohen | no you don't |
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| 15:08 | tcohen | you don't need to restart apache either |
| 15:09 | maximep | try activating opaclanguagesdisplay and look at if it's listed |
| 15:09 | on the bottom of pages | |
| 15:09 | tcohen | on the bottom left corner you should see "Portuguese" |
| 15:09 | oleonard | rafael: Do you have both en and pt-br enabled in system preferences? |
| 15:10 | rafael | I see. Sorry before you answered I removed my instance and created a new one hopping I would get the installer again... Now I can't reach the webinstaller. I just get a It works apache message. |
| 15:11 | http://localhost:8080/ brings me the default apache installed page... Maybe I need to a2ensite again? It says it already exists | |
| 15:11 | koha-list show me the instance was sucessfuly created | |
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| 15:13 | tcohen | run koha-list --enabled |
| 15:13 | rafael | Got it. Just needed to set the apache virtualhost to 8080 |
| 15:14 | Thanks a lot | |
| 15:14 | Now I hve the option to resume the installer in pt_br | |
| 15:20 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #45: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/45/ |
| 15:20 | Owen Leonard: Bug 2774 - Path to theme is hard-coded in many places | |
| 15:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2774 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Path to theme is hard-coded in many places |
| 15:21 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1192 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 15:25 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10080: DBRev 3.13.00.002 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ebf4d3382bd966c6f> / Bug 10080: (followup) change two last instances of the old syspref name <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]55de6341a6b6410bb> / Bug 10080 - Change system pref IndependantBranches to IndependentBranches - Followup <http://git.koha-commun |
| 15:26 | oleonard | The long nightmare is over. |
| 15:28 | kf | lol |
| 15:28 | hopefully we didn't miss some weirdness :) | |
| 15:30 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:56 | kf | gmcharlt++ :) |
| 15:56 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7718: DBRev 3.13.00.003 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]27c65e8b19fc9d91a> / Bug 7718 - Remove itemnumber column from serials table <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]95112920fa2fc784c> |
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| 16:37 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1192: SUCCESS in 1 hr 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1192/ |
| 16:37 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10261: Link to patron files missing from circ-menu.tt | |
| 16:37 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9507: prevent submit: refactor some code in a js file | |
| 16:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10261 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Link to patron files missing from circ-menu.tt |
| 16:37 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Some code used to prevent form from being unexpectedly submitted is duplicated | |
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| 16:37 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #46 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 17:02 | * cait | waves |
| 17:18 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 17:21 | tcohen | gmcharlt: should 10080 be considered fr 3.12.x? Didn't read it yet |
| 17:22 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #46: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/46/ |
| 17:22 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10251: Fix typos in Patron Permissions Help | |
| 17:22 | * Magnus Enger: Bug 10288 - Fix a tiny typo on "Pending offline circulation actions" | |
| 17:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10251 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , typos in help/members/member-flags.tt |
| 17:22 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10288 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , Tiny typo on "Pending offline circulation actions" | |
| 17:22 | jcamins | but 10080 |
| 17:22 | bug 10080 | |
| 17:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10080 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Change system pref IndependantBranches to IndependentBranches |
| 17:22 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1193 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 17:23 | jcamins | tcohen: absolutely not. |
| 17:23 | IMO | |
| 17:23 | tcohen | because of the DB change? |
| 17:24 | is not relevant right now | |
| 17:24 | jcamins | Because it's high-risk and low-reward. |
| 17:25 | tcohen | exactly, agreed |
| 17:25 | oleonard | no reward at all for people who only care about stable. |
| 17:25 | gmcharlt | yeah, the reasons why it was held back for 3.12 still apply to a stable branch |
| 17:26 | one thing to note -- patches don't have to be cherry-picked from master to a stable branch *instantly* | |
| 17:26 | it's OK to wait to see if there are any side-effects first | |
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| 18:23 | tcohen | gmcharlt: is there a roadmap for 3.14 already established somewhere? |
| 18:23 | gmcharlt | tcohen: no; I need to do that |
| 18:28 | tcohen | bugzilla doesn't have the concept of milestones, right? |
| 18:28 | (assign a collection of bugs to a goal, called milestone 3.14 , and such) | |
| 18:30 | like this http://tinyurl.com/prvx76x | |
| 18:30 | oleonard | cait did you do some batch bug changes like you threatened to the other day? |
| 18:30 | rambutan | is there a way to enable logging of OPAC search terms, whether the user is logged in or not? |
| 18:31 | gmcharlt | tcohen: the problem with that is that there's no way to *require* that any particular bugs that make up a milestone actually be worked on |
| 18:32 | tcohen | which bz version are we on? |
| 18:32 | I mean *at* | |
| 18:32 | oleonard | 4.2.5 |
| 18:35 | tcohen | milestone definition is supported, maybe it just doesn't fit our dev workflow/process |
| 18:36 | cait | oleonard: negative |
| 18:37 | i am still trying to come up with a list trying to remember what we did last time | |
| 18:37 | gmcharlt | tcohen: I don't think it does, except possibly as a way to tag bugs *after* we know that the patches have made it in for a particular release |
| 18:37 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1193: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1193/ |
| 18:37 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10080 - Change system pref IndependantBranches to IndependentBranches | |
| 18:37 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10080 - Change system pref IndependantBranches to IndependentBranches - Followup | |
| 18:37 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10080: (followup) change two last instances of the old syspref name | |
| 18:37 | * Galen Charlton: Bug 10080: DBRev 3.13.00.002 | |
| 18:37 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7718 - Remove itemnumber column from serials table | |
| 18:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10080 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Change system pref IndependantBranches to IndependentBranches |
| 18:37 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: bug 7718: DBRev 3.13.00.003 |
| 18:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7718 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Remove itemnumber column from serials table |
| 18:37 | maximep | should I change the Version of bug 9394 to 3.14 or leave it to master ? Isn't master the next version, 3.14 ? |
| 18:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9394 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Use reserve_id where possible |
| 18:38 | gmcharlt | maximep: I say leave it at master |
| 18:38 | at least so far, assigning a specific version to a bug is most useful if the bug *only* affects that version | |
| 18:39 | maximep | ok thx |
| 18:39 | my first signoff hehe | |
| 18:39 | it was about time, after 2 years of working on koha -_- | |
| 18:39 | * magnuse | waves goodbye to IndependantBranches |
| 18:40 | magnuse | maximep++ |
| 18:40 | maximep | khall++ for the great work you're doing |
| 18:40 | cait | sorry was afk, reading back now |
| 18:42 | magnuse | maximep: don't forget to change the status in bugzilla ;-) |
| 18:42 | cait | oleonard: did you have one specific change in mind? |
| 18:42 | or a plan? :) | |
| 18:42 | i can try and ask rangi to help me by switching mail off and do the changes we come up with | |
| 18:43 | oleonard | Nope, just thought to wonder after hearing the talk about milestones |
| 18:43 | gmcharlt | maximep++ |
| 18:43 | cait | we did some changes to mark things resolved fixed that had been released last time |
| 18:44 | so i think maybe we would mark pushed to stable and pushed to master bugs from before the release as resolved fixed | |
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| 18:44 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 18:44 | I was doing a git rebase on my patch that I'm hacking around on. | |
| 18:44 | cait | gmcharlt, oleonard everyone else opinions on that idea? :) |
| 18:44 | and maximep++ :) | |
| 18:44 | * druthb | blames cait. |
| 18:44 | mtompset | -- what idea? |
| 18:44 | cait | druthb: ? |
| 18:45 | * druthb | shrugs. |
| 18:45 | gmcharlt | cait: seems reasonable to me |
| 18:45 | cait | (20:44:00) cait: so i think maybe we could mark pushed to stable and pushed to master bugs from before the release as resolved fixed |
| 18:45 | maximep | magnuse: oops, tought I had changed it when I sent the patch. thx |
| 18:45 | cait | i'd also like to reset some assignees that are no longer active |
| 18:45 | we still have lots assigned to sekjal and hdl | |
| 18:46 | but not sure if I can do a good search for those... i always struggle with names | |
| 18:46 | oleonard | They'll be back when they start missing us too much. |
| 18:46 | magnuse | awww... |
| 18:46 | cait | you think? :) |
| 18:46 | mtompset | -- I was noticing a code change to older way of checking in the updatedatabase.pl on latest master stuff. |
| 18:53 | gmcharlt | mtompset: hmm? |
| 18:53 | mtompset | the old long style if with TransformToNum in it vs. CheckVersion() |
| 18:54 | jcamins | mtompset: yes. |
| 18:54 | gmcharlt | mtompset: ah, yeah, the course reserves patch has been around for yonks before it got merged |
| 18:54 | mtompset | Was there a reason? |
| 18:54 | jcamins | CheckVersion makes it easier to transition to the proposed database update scheme. |
| 18:55 | gmcharlt | and I plain goofed with the 3.13.00.000 |
| 18:55 | jcamins: which to emphasize, remains just a proposal from my POV | |
| 18:55 | mtompset | So, should all the if's be nice and pretty and the same? |
| 18:56 | jcamins | mtompset: it doesn't really matter. |
| 18:57 | mtompset | okay, so then, which way should I be doing it? |
| 18:57 | gmcharlt | mtompset: CheckVersion |
| 18:57 | mtompset | Okay... just making sure. :0 |
| 18:58 | cait | jcamins: did you see the updatedatabase improvment showed up in the release notes? |
| 18:59 | jcamins | I did not. |
| 18:59 | Oh well. | |
| 18:59 | cait | i think the script is not prepared for reverts |
| 18:59 | jcamins | Yeah, definitely not prepared for reverts. |
| 18:59 | * jcamins | checks if he cares... |
| 18:59 | jcamins | nope. :D |
| 18:59 | cait | heh |
| 19:00 | gmcharlt | jcamins: which actually might speak to the one use for milestones that I can see |
| 19:01 | (BZ milestones, that is) | |
| 19:01 | jcamins | gmcharlt: yeah, I definitely think those could be good. |
| 19:01 | But that requires an active bug wrangler. | |
| 19:03 | And I think Dyrcona can speak to how much work that is. | |
| 19:03 | gmcharlt | in part, although one part lends itself to automation, namely tagging bugs that change state to 'pushed to master' with the upcomnig major release milestone |
| 19:04 | cait | gmcharlt++ btw :) |
| 19:05 | jcamins | I guess if people could be taught to not mark milestones on bugs they've not actually fixed most could be automated. |
| 19:06 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: prefer CheckVersion in updatedatabase.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ed62e48af34b3788c> |
| 19:08 | gmcharlt | mtompset++ |
| 19:09 | mtompset | Thank you. Not a biggie. :) |
| 19:10 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1194 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 19:29 | cait | hi pianohacker |
| 19:29 | pianohacker | hi cait |
| 19:29 | how's it going? | |
| 19:29 | cait | good, busy :) |
| 19:30 | pianohacker | know the feeling :) what are you up to? |
| 19:31 | cait | hm too many things at once? :) |
| 19:32 | pianohacker | yeah, medical issues, helping friends move, work, etc. |
| 19:33 | just runnin' all over the place | |
| 19:33 | cait | oh right, you mentioned something about your hearing? |
| 19:34 | pianohacker | yeah, had surgery for a bone-attached hearing aid on monday, and the little healing cap over the gauze decided to fall off yesterday |
| 19:35 | cait | hm and that's not good then? |
| 19:37 | pianohacker | no, not really. in doctor's office right now, working over phone internet |
| 19:37 | anyway | |
| 19:37 | I'm griping | |
| 19:37 | what are you up to | |
| 19:38 | cait | just a lot of work and different projects |
| 19:38 | lots of interest this year in koha :) | |
| 19:39 | and need to update our manuals and prepare a bigger training | |
| 19:39 | pianohacker | good! |
| 19:39 | that's excellent news | |
| 19:43 | cait | hope your ear is going to be ok |
| 20:04 | jcamins | ... |
| 20:04 | oh my. | |
| 20:09 | drojf | hm. so arguments are unhealthy, to question something is an incredibly negative response and all that somehow relates to a longish article about sexism that i am not going to read tonight? i guess i just take my "trolly" label and not respond to that thread anymore |
| 20:10 | jcamins | Huh? |
| 20:10 | drojf | its that thread you don't read ;) |
| 20:10 | rangi | drojf: thats what i did |
| 20:10 | cait | the new pootle looks great |
| 20:10 | drojf | cait: yay |
| 20:10 | cait | wonder if it will be hard to upgrade? |
| 20:10 | rangi | took it as an attempt to shut down discussion, shut down my discussion, ill refer ppl who get hacked to that thread :) |
| 20:10 | cait | drojf: for example i like that: http://docs.translatehouse.org[…]ng-quality-checks |
| 20:10 | drojf | it looked easy in the mail ;) |
| 20:11 | rangi | cait: bgkriegel is TM eh? |
| 20:11 | cait | yep |
| 20:11 | jcamins | rangi: indeed. |
| 20:11 | drojf | but i am not responsible for that server. it's always easy if you just have to nag somebody :P |
| 20:11 | cait | but not sure if he had time to take a look at the server and the internals yet |
| 20:11 | pianohacker | And thus the reasoning behind the mute key in GMail and my great love for it :P |
| 20:11 | rangi | soon as i get the .po files for 3.10.6 nad 3.8.13 |
| 20:11 | he should be able to try if he wants | |
| 20:11 | cait | bgkriegel bgkriegel bgkriegel |
| 20:11 | * cait | tries summoning :P |
| 20:11 | jcamins | pianohacker: wait, there's a *key* for mute in GMail? |
| 20:12 | rangi | 2.5.0 does look awesome |
| 20:12 | jcamins | tirtmi |
| 20:12 | cait | jcamins: ? |
| 20:12 | rangi | 2.5.1 is scheduled for 6 montsh |
| 20:12 | drojf | bgkriegel bgkriegel bgkriegel |
| 20:12 | * drojf | tries to help |
| 20:12 | rangi | they are copying us :-) *grin* |
| 20:12 | jcamins | cait: pianohacker said there was a key. |
| 20:12 | cait | drojf: apertium? http://docs.translatehouse.org[…]nslation-services |
| 20:13 | drojf | cait: yay! |
| 20:13 | rangi | he's in peru at the moment iirc |
| 20:13 | training koha users | |
| 20:14 | koha_southish_america++ | |
| 20:14 | cait | bgkriegel++ :) |
| 20:14 | jcamins | http://www.kino-teatr.ru/kino/[…]e/sov/8476/annot/ <-- I would like the OPAC to do this. |
| 20:14 | (mouse over the names) | |
| 20:15 | rangi | cool |
| 20:15 | druthb | rangi: ready to retire as RMaint? |
| 20:15 | ;-) | |
| 20:15 | rangi | jcamins: do they store images as part of VIAF ? |
| 20:15 | druthb: yes indeed! | |
| 20:16 | * druthb | is ready to finish her retirement as ™. |
| 20:16 | druthb | Look for a pull req pair when I get home shortly. |
| 20:16 | rangi | ok gotta go take kids to school |
| 20:16 | thanks :) | |
| 20:16 | cait | cya later rangi |
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| 20:19 | jcamins | rangi: nope. :( |
| 20:24 | pianohacker | jcamins: yep, m |
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| 20:25 | jcamins | pianohacker: nice! |
| 20:25 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1194: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1194/ |
| 20:25 | Galen Charlton: prefer CheckVersion in updatedatabase.pl | |
| 20:26 | jcamins | This may delay my unsubscribing from koha-devel. |
| 20:27 | pianohacker | hahahahaha |
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| 20:29 | jcamins | pianohacker: I actually previously announced that I was going to set koha-devel to NOMAIL tomorrow, due to the high volume of nonsense and low volume of non-bikeshed painting. |
| 20:29 | I am not sure if you have done the community a favor or a disservice. :P | |
| 20:30 | cait | hm and i didn't get tha tmail yet |
| 20:31 | pianohacker: what did you do? | |
| 20:31 | jcamins | cait: told me about 'm' so that I can just mute everthing rather than outright setting it to NOMAIL. |
| 20:31 | cait | oh |
| 20:31 | what does mute mean? | |
| 20:32 | jcamins | (a button is too much work) |
| 20:32 | Just what it sounds like... hide the thread. | |
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| 20:33 | pianohacker | future replies wont end up in your inbox |
| 20:46 | drojf | i forgot, what's with the most important topic of version naming? |
| 20:46 | or numbering | |
| 20:46 | wahanui | i guess numbering is confusing me |
| 20:51 | drojf | ah, postponed to next meeting |
| 21:10 | cait | hm we have about 700 bugs in pushed to master/pushed to stable now |
| 21:10 | some from last release - 2012 | |
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| 21:18 | cait | hi BobB |
| 21:19 | drojf | "It is with huge pleasure that the Debian GNU/Hurd team announces the release of Debian GNU/Hurd 2013" |
| 21:19 | does koha run on hurd? | |
| 21:19 | jcamins | If you recompile Zebra for it, probably. |
| 21:19 | pianohacker | I imagine the question is more "does zebra/mysql/perl/our five quadrillion dependencies run on hurd" |
| 21:20 | aaaaaaand yeah, zebra's going to be the worst | |
| 21:20 | just because it's zebra | |
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| 21:21 | pianohacker | oh wow |
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| 21:22 | drojf | ha. i'll just use nozebra ^^ |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | err |
| 21:22 | nozebra is deprecated | |
| 21:23 | your outcomes will be less than good I think. | |
| 21:23 | pianohacker | i didnt realize anyone had bothered to deprecate it |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | re: numbering, I think we are going to keep Pi, and start big number incrementing afterwards |
| 21:24 | so release 3.14, then 4, 5, 6 etc | |
| 21:24 | maybe we'll skip four and 5 - not sure. | |
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| 21:24 | pianohacker | figured the first search attempt with more than ~1000 bibs would cure anyone's desire to use it |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | 4 & 5 could create confusion with the other not-koha |
| 21:25 | pianohacker | oh, we're pulling a chrome? |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | that's the proposal |
| 21:25 | magnuse | jcamins: http://esme.priv.bibkat.no/cgi[…]pl?biblionumber=4 |
| 21:25 | * wizzyrea | would be content to just skip all the way to 10 |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | and start there. |
| 21:25 | (all that above makes it sound like I really have a strong opinion - I don't. Whatever will be fine by me) | |
| 21:25 | Dyrcona | Sounds more like a Slackware to me.... ;) |
| 21:26 | pianohacker | if only for the release after |
| 21:26 | koha: spinal tap edition | |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 21:26 | jcamins | magnuse: a nice start! |
| 21:27 | magnuse | have fun #koha! |
| 21:28 | jcamins | I guess we have a meeting in two weeks. |
| 21:28 | I think maybe I'll miss it. | |
| 21:33 | pianohacker | uh oh |
| 21:40 | "but sir, why not just make a Koha that's just as fast, and call that Koha 10?" | |
| 21:40 | "... but this one goes up to eleven" | |
| 21:41 | jcamins | lol |
| 21:41 | Exactly. | |
| 21:41 | You know what? It's time to go home. | |
| 21:41 | Bye. | |
| 21:43 | pianohacker | bye jcamins |
| 21:43 | drojf | wizzyrea: i know about nozebra. i'll just use a version old enough ;) |
| 21:43 | also, what about koha 3000? :D | |
| 21:44 | pianohacker | only if we switch to python |
| 22:05 | mtompset | Switch to python?! That would be a truly fundamental change. |
| 22:09 | rambutan1 | Please re-write Koha in Python or Ada. See perl errors: http://paste.koha-community.org/22 |
| 22:10 | wizzyrea | some of those searches are humorous |
| 22:10 | rambutan1 | clearly perl ain't no good for nothin' |
| 22:10 | wizzyrea | dfghtgvyjkfyjuyjktrtv |
| 22:12 | rambutan1 | If a programming language can't even self-initialize variables.... |
| 22:12 | cait | not sure we can blame perl for us programming badly |
| 22:12 | wizzyrea | ^ |
| 22:12 | cait | rambutan1: it can and it does |
| 22:12 | or your search wouldn't work i gues | |
| 22:12 | s | |
| 22:12 | it just warns | |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | popcorn? |
| 22:15 | wahanui | popcorn is a vital part of any work day. |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | popcorn is also http://persephonemagazine.com/[…]art-popcorn11.gif |
| 22:15 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | popcorn? |
| 22:15 | wahanui | i heard popcorn was http://persephonemagazine.com/[…]art-popcorn11.gif |
| 22:17 | wizzyrea | confetti is also http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
| 22:17 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
| 22:18 | pianohacker | popcorn _and_ confetti? |
| 22:18 | :( | |
| 22:18 | cait | why looking so sad? |
| 22:19 | pianohacker | was hoping for both... |
| 22:19 | what happened to rhcl, anyway? | |
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| 22:23 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Hello? |
| 22:23 | wahanui | somebody said Hello was it necessary to make hold limit nil in system preference if it is already set in circulation privilege different for different users group |
| 22:24 | pianohacker | hah, bot's being overeager |
| 22:24 | hi, YoungPublicLibrarian | |
| 22:25 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Is there anyone on that is versed in writing reports for koha? |
| 22:25 | wizzyrea | ask? |
| 22:25 | wahanui | Don't ask to ask, just ask. |
| 22:25 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 22:26 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Yes, well... Asking a room that knows nothing about what you're asking is somewhat counter productive... |
| 22:27 | pianohacker | well, of course |
| 22:27 | wizzyrea | no seriously, go ahead. |
| 22:27 | pianohacker | and we do appreciate that |
| 22:27 | but we're such a small community that if we don't know the answer we know who does | |
| 22:27 | wizzyrea | has anybody experienced processing returns that doesn't remove the reserve from the list of reserves? |
| 22:28 | I have someone reporting that and it's rather mystifying. | |
| 22:28 | eythian | hi |
| 22:28 | wahanui | niihau, eythian |
| 22:28 | pianohacker | hi eythian |
| 22:29 | eythian | jcamins: that'll be the second time someone pointed out muting threads to you then :) |
| 22:29 | YoungPublicLibrarian | I was wondering if there is a way to write a report to display all items hidden from the OPAC by a specific branch? |
| 22:30 | wizzyrea | that should be possible |
| 22:30 | how are you hiding them? | |
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| 22:32 | pianohacker | ohh man, just dug through email |
| 22:32 | eythian | hi papa |
| 22:32 | pianohacker | gmcharlt++ |
| 22:32 | wizzyrea | ikr |
| 22:32 | pianohacker | gmcharlt: I love you so much for fixing that typo you don't even know |
| 22:33 | * wizzyrea | too |
| 22:33 | pianohacker | I care about spelling more than I should and that bugged me _so_ _much_ while working on sysprefs |
| 22:33 | wizzyrea | i don't think it was a typo |
| 22:33 | I think it was a frenchism | |
| 22:33 | YoungPublicLibrarian | There is a selection list in the cataloguers window that an option is "Hidden from OPAC" That is how they are hidden. |
| 22:35 | wizzyrea | you feelin alright you're usually cheerier than this. :/ |
| 22:35 | not that you have to be cheerful mind you. | |
| 22:35 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: next thing to tackle... my nemesis, wthdrawn! |
| 22:35 | pianohacker | hehehe |
| 22:35 | wizzyrea: ? | |
| 22:36 | wizzyrea | items = biblio or items = item |
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| 22:37 | YoungPublicLibrarian | The old cataloguer had hidden each issue of all our magazines and the new cataloguer wants a list of all hidden items to see what else was hidden from OPAC. That's what I need the report for, but I couldn't find any references to the hidden from OPAC field in the scheme or library. |
| 22:37 | * eythian | points gmcharlt in the direction of the 'creat' system call, and the 'referer' HTTP header. |
| 22:38 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 22:40 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Anyone have any ideas? |
| 22:40 | eythian | YoungPublicLibrarian: where is the option? is it on the biblio or item level? |
| 22:40 | wizzyrea | in edit record or edit items? |
| 22:41 | ha jinx | |
| 22:41 | * eythian | knows nothing about "hidden from opac" but could probably make an educated guess with more information. |
| 22:41 | wizzyrea | same |
| 22:41 | pianohacker | It sounds like an addition to, of all things, the wthdrawn authorized values |
| 22:42 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Lol, if I was the cataloguer I would know the answers. I do believe its under item level and edit record. But I'm not sure. I do know the field is "c-shelving location:" |
| 22:43 | wizzyrea | easy enough then |
| 22:43 | gmcharlt | YoungPublicLibrarian: is there anything set in the OpacHiddenItems system preference? |
| 22:43 | wizzyrea | she just wants to know what they are I think |
| 22:44 | YoungPublicLibrarian | That I have no idea about, gmcharlt. Wizzyrea is correct. |
| 22:44 | wizzyrea | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s_Marked_On_Order |
| 22:44 | it'll be like this | |
| 22:44 | but instead of items.notforloan it'll be... | |
| 22:45 | items.location = whatever your value is | |
| 22:45 | which you can find in the authorised value definitions | |
| 22:45 | and you can add a limit for branch | |
| 22:45 | which there are many recipes for in the library | |
| 22:46 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Okay. I'll try that and come back in a few days if I need more help. Thank you all so much! |
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| 22:46 | wizzyrea | good luck |
| 22:51 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Hmmm, guess I need help sooner than I thought... How would I find the value of the item.location for the report? Would it say in the cataloguer area when editing the items? |
| 22:51 | jcamins | eythian: I knew about muting... what I did not realize was that there was a keyboard shortcut. |
| 22:52 | eythian | what MUA do you use? |
| 22:52 | jcamins | Just gmail. |
| 22:52 | wizzyrea | which you can find in the authorised value definitions -> more -> administration -> authorised value -> loc |
| 22:52 | eythian | ah OK. |
| 22:53 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Umm... You lost me. Where would the authorized value definitions be? On the scheme? |
| 22:54 | eythian | YoungPublicLibrarian: in the staff client. |
| 22:55 | wizzyrea | either click the giant "Administration" button -> Authorized values |
| 22:55 | or click More -> Administration -> Authorized Values | |
| 22:56 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Ah, crap... I'll have to work with my director on that then. I'm not allowed to have that level of control. |
| 22:56 | wizzyrea | bother. |
| 22:56 | you can run reports though? | |
| 22:58 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Nope, I have a contact that can. As tech support I'm not trusted with those kind of privileges. :/ |
| 22:58 | wizzyrea | O.o |
| 22:58 | eythian | that does kinda mean you can't do support... |
| 22:59 | pianohacker | yeah, normally tech support has rather high privileges |
| 22:59 | otherwise solving issues like this is a game of telephone that just ends painfully for everyone | |
| 22:59 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 22:59 | YoungPublicLibrarian | So I write up the reports, have my contact enter the report, I test it, make changes to the text file, have my contact repost the report and so on... It's rather tiresome... |
| 23:00 | pianohacker | yeah, sounds like it |
| 23:01 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Unfortunately, because I'm young and know more, tech wise, than my director I am not trusted with any kind of privileges for the network or system... Everything has to go through the director while she's right there. No matter how small... |
| 23:02 | pianohacker | ahhhhhh, YoungPublicLibrarian, I sympathize more than you could know |
| 23:02 | wizzyrea | hm. stink |
| 23:03 | pianohacker | was in a similar situation at my first job, though my barriers had different names :) |
| 23:04 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Yeah... But oh well. You do what you can... |
| 23:05 | When my director gets back from vacation I'll get with her and try to find the correct value... | |
| 23:05 | eythian | "We do what we must because we can"? |
| 23:05 | pianohacker | yup. the true sign of craziness is sticking with libraries despite the people that work in them, including ourselves |
| 23:06 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Ain't that the truth... |
| 23:10 | Thank you to everyone that helped me out. I really appreciate it. I know just enough about Koha and SQL to get me into trouble but not enough to do what I want all the time... | |
| 23:11 | pianohacker | not a problem |
| 23:11 | best of luck | |
| 23:13 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Have a good day everyone! Later. |
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