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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | wizzyrea | hi brooke |
| 00:17 | dcook joined #koha | |
| 00:17 | Brooke | hi dcook |
| 00:17 | dcook | hey Brooke |
| 00:23 | jcamins | questhub.io is not the most obvious user interface, is it? |
| 00:23 | Apparently I created a quest in the wrong realm. | |
| 00:24 | I can't figure out how to see the realm. | |
| 00:24 | rangi | you choose it when you create a user |
| 00:24 | jcamins | I mean, I saw a link up at the top left, so I clicked it, but talk about lack of feedback! |
| 00:24 | rangi | i reckon running our own instance is the way to go |
| 00:25 | its all dancer | |
| 00:25 | and TT | |
| 00:25 | https://github.com/berekuk/pla[…]ews/event-atom.tt | |
| 00:25 | wizzyrea | wait what realm am I supposed to join |
| 00:26 | rangi | none of them, unless you want to muck around |
| 00:26 | wizzyrea | ohh |
| 00:27 | rangi | i was playing in play-perl |
| 00:28 | http://questhub.io/perl/explore/latest/tag/Koha | |
| 00:29 | wizzyrea | ohh cool |
| 00:40 | dcook | Hmm, this could be fun |
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| 00:58 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 00:59 | jcamins | rangi: definitely our own instance... I got a very nice note informing me that I had to abandon my quest because it was in the wrong place. |
| 00:59 | I never saw what place I was putting it in. | |
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| 02:08 | rangi | jcamins: did i show you this yet https://gitorious.org/koha/mai[…]6ecfef65e74ecd581 |
| 02:09 | gets you the star ratings, with isbn or issn if one exists as xml | |
| 02:09 | jcamins | Nice! |
| 02:09 | Why as XML? | |
| 02:10 | rangi | for this |
| 02:10 | http://ratings.koha-community.org/ | |
| 02:10 | when i finish it | |
| 02:11 | jcamins | Neat! |
| 02:11 | rangi | which will let you paste in the url of your xml feed |
| 02:11 | and it will aggregate | |
| 02:11 | and offer a new feed :) | |
| 02:11 | mostly cos i can do | |
| 02:11 | pl2xml | |
| 02:11 | and xml2pl | |
| 02:11 | to get from an object to xml and back again | |
| 02:11 | to easy | |
| 02:12 | the feed from ratings.koha-community.org | |
| 02:12 | ill offer in json, or xml | |
| 02:12 | jcamins | Yeah, encode_json/decode_json is pretty easy too. |
| 02:12 | rangi | but my idea is have that site, let people add their feed |
| 02:12 | and it will harvest data | |
| 02:12 | and offer a communitywide rating :) | |
| 02:13 | mtj | hey chris, thanks for the key add, too - works perfect |
| 02:13 | rangi | sweet |
| 02:13 | so yeah the export bit is done | |
| 02:13 | i just have to build the UX for ratings | |
| 02:14 | to allow ppl to register/add feeds | |
| 02:14 | next stop after this | |
| 02:14 | recommendations.koha-community.org | |
| 02:14 | based around the same idea | |
| 02:14 | wizzyrea | oh that's brilliant |
| 02:14 | mtj | wow, truely awesome idea |
| 02:14 | wizzyrea | it's YOUR birthday and you are giving US presents |
| 02:14 | legend. | |
| 02:14 | rangi | heh |
| 02:15 | that was saturday i think | |
| 02:15 | after whisky | |
| 02:15 | when i was lounging around on the couch | |
| 02:15 | wizzyrea | meh. it's birthday SEASON. |
| 02:15 | rangi | i gotta get it actually caching too, but thast one more line |
| 02:15 | mtj | whiskey + coding = win |
| 02:17 | rangi | course evergreen will be able to use the ratings too |
| 02:17 | (its just star ratings at this stage) | |
| 02:17 | because its keyed by isbn/issn | |
| 02:18 | recommendations and reviews to follow | |
| 02:21 | mtj | tagging too, even? |
| 02:21 | rangi | why not |
| 02:22 | i think ill get people to agree to cc-sa | |
| 02:22 | when they add their feed | |
| 02:22 | to the list | |
| 02:22 | havent fully thought that through | |
| 02:22 | somethign like that | |
| 02:22 | that makes sense for data | |
| 02:27 | ill push all the ratings.koha-community.org code to gitorious too as soon as its doing something if people want to fork and do reviews or tags :) | |
| 02:28 | wizzyrea | rangi++ |
| 02:37 | mtj | wow, i just noticed all the goodreads patches |
| 02:37 | dcook | I heard goodreads patches? |
| 02:37 | * dcook | perks up |
| 02:38 | wizzyrea | and then... amazon bought them :( |
| 02:38 | dcook | :o |
| 02:38 | What?! | |
| 02:38 | rangi | oh i did some of those a while ago then i got bored when amazon bought them |
| 02:38 | dcook | :'( |
| 02:39 | rangi | they work |
| 02:39 | https://secure.flickr.com/phot[…]ginui/8550215249/ | |
| 02:40 | dcook | Another reminder of why I need my own system for managing my reading lists... |
| 02:41 | mtj | they seem to have some useful api stuff -> http://www.goodreads.com/api |
| 02:42 | dcook | Yeah, rangi and I chatted a bit about that a while ago |
| 02:42 | I talked about putting something together but it just wasn't much of a priority, since our clients are mostly special libraries | |
| 02:42 | rangi | theres no reason someone cant make lists.koha-community.org too ;-) |
| 02:43 | if ptfs-europes rebus was floss id use that | |
| 02:43 | http://www.ptfs-europe.com/rebuslist/ | |
| 02:44 | dcook | Hmm, good point, rangi |
| 02:45 | * dcook | would have a much easier time trusting the Koha community with his reading habits rather than a company that's going to up and sell when it sees green |
| 02:46 | rangi | *nod* |
| 02:46 | we ahve a bunch of data now, reviews, tags, star ratings | |
| 02:46 | we should share it | |
| 02:46 | and not rely on 3rd party things that go away, or change, or sell our data ;-) | |
| 02:46 | dcook | \o/ |
| 02:47 | rangi | ideally |
| 02:47 | we would do it distributed | |
| 02:47 | dcook | Admittedly, not everyone wants that information to be public |
| 02:47 | rangi | like gravatar |
| 02:47 | yep, thats why opt in | |
| 02:47 | sorry not gravatar | |
| 02:47 | libravatar | |
| 02:47 | eythian | libre.fm |
| 02:47 | rangi | https://www.libravatar.org/ |
| 02:48 | status.net | |
| 02:48 | any of those spread yourself out ideas i like | |
| 02:48 | dcook | I don't know if I necessarily want to spread myself out per se |
| 02:48 | rangi | http://www.gplhost.com/ <-- cool! |
| 02:49 | dcook | But I want to have access to my information |
| 02:49 | I guess I want to spread myself...but limit who can see me | |
| 02:49 | rangi | dcook: federate/distribute the service = less likely to go down |
| 02:49 | dcook | Mhm |
| 02:49 | wizzyrea | ooooo |
| 02:49 | dcook | Hence why having a reading list with my local library isn't necessarily that useful |
| 02:49 | rangi | *nod* |
| 02:49 | dcook | If my local library goes down, changes vendors, etc. My data is gone. |
| 02:50 | rangi | http://www.gplhost.com/hosting-vps-zone2.html <-- sydney |
| 02:50 | thats a pretty sweet deal | |
| 02:50 | wizzyrea | man highlighting really throws people |
| 02:51 | at least the way we do it | |
| 02:51 | rangi | the zone1 ones are still better |
| 02:51 | dcook | Intriguing.. |
| 02:51 | rangi | yep |
| 02:52 | we do do it pretty weirdly | |
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| 03:00 | eythian | really, who isn't a zebran noob? |
| 03:00 | -n | |
| 03:00 | zebran00b | lol, why change my handle now? |
| 03:01 | its still my biggest pain | |
| 03:01 | congrats to whomever here was involved in 10.12 | |
| 03:01 | eythian | 10.12 is still a long way away :) |
| 03:02 | zebran00b | whats this I saw about a release? |
| 03:02 | admittedly I only drove by a headline on Twitter, I didn't actually read anything | |
| 03:02 | eythian | that'll be 3.12 :) |
| 03:02 | jcamins | 3.12. |
| 03:03 | wizzyrea | confetti |
| 03:03 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 03:03 | wizzyrea | more confetti |
| 03:03 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' |
| 03:04 | zebran00b | oops, I'm juggling projects on way too many platforms |
| 03:05 | @eythian would you happen to know if I wanted to have, say, a mediawiki installed on the same server as Koha but with Koha still at the home directory level, how do I make the mediawiki accessible? AFAIK perl overrides the actual directory tree in the URL, right? | |
| 03:05 | huginn | zebran00b: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 03:06 | zebran00b | @huginn point and match. |
| 03:06 | huginn | zebran00b: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 03:07 | eythian | zebran00b: well, I think there are some assumptions in your question that may be incorrect. |
| 03:07 | perl doesn't override anything, but Koha does require that it is always at a fixed location from the root of the URL. | |
| 03:08 | You could put mediawiki into example.com/wiki quite happily, for example | |
| 03:08 | or give it its own domain at wiki.example.com | |
| 03:08 | jcamins | But that doesn't impact mediawiki at all. |
| 03:08 | They're different virtual hosts. | |
| 03:08 | zebran00b | interesting, it must be my fault from my muddled install |
| 03:09 | I tried something like that, and when I went to example.com/wiki, all I got was a Koha missing page error. | |
| 03:09 | eythian | that just means you didn't have your apache configured to understand the wiki location. |
| 03:09 | jcamins | zebran00b: I think in order to have that work you'd have to combine them into a single virtualhost. |
| 03:09 | eythian | yes, you would |
| 03:10 | jcamins | Which would be the opposite of what all the instructions are going to assume. |
| 03:10 | rangi | or do mod_proxy stuff, which would be needless complication :) |
| 03:10 | jcamins | If you're proxying, use nginx. |
| 03:10 | * eythian | would recommend virtual hosts, as it makes things easier should you want to split them up in the future |
| 03:10 | zebran00b | cheers @eythian @rangi @jcamins |
| 03:12 | eythian | zebran00b: IRC doesn't use '@' like that, it was around long before twitter :) |
| 03:13 | * eythian | runs 'dch -v 3.12.00-1' |
| 03:14 | zebran00b | I know, but IRC chat protocols are fairly low on my to-do list |
| 03:15 | eythian | it also makes huginn cranky. Or at least confused. |
| 03:15 | jcamins | Hey, what happens if you send huginn an @later with instructions to @later someone else... |
| 03:15 | @later tell huginn @later tell jcamins hi | |
| 03:15 | huginn | jcamins: Error: I can't send notes to myself. |
| 03:15 | jcamins | Darn. |
| 03:16 | wizzyrea | haha pwnt |
| 03:16 | eythian | wahanui: remind cait later is <reply>@later tell cait it's early, go back to bed |
| 03:16 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 03:17 | eythian | wahanui: remind cait later |
| 03:17 | wahanui | @later tell cait it's early, go back to bed |
| 03:17 | huginn | wahanui: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:17 | wahanui | huginn: huh? |
| 03:17 | huginn | wahanui: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 03:17 | wahanui | ...but i'll give you the answer as soon as rda is <reply>... |
| 03:17 | wizzyrea | lol eythian |
| 03:17 | eythian | I was almost expecting a botwar there. |
| 03:17 | wizzyrea | that would have been epic. |
| 03:18 | eythian | wahanui: The operation succeeded is <reply>I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS |
| 03:18 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 03:19 | wizzyrea | <snort> |
| 03:19 | jcamins | remind cait later |
| 03:19 | wahanui | @later tell cait it's early, go back to bed |
| 03:19 | huginn | wahanui: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:19 | wahanui | I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS |
| 03:19 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 03:24 | druthb | LOL |
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| 04:02 | eythian | I think the Koha debian repo needs some trimming. It's far too large with unused files. |
| 04:04 | dcook | Like what? |
| 04:04 | * dcook | says only because he plans to install Koha via packages sometime this week |
| 04:04 | eythian | koha/pool/main/k/koha/koha_3.9-1~git+20121101121026.5994dd21.tar.gz |
| 04:04 | 31293440 68% 654.81kB/s 0:00:21 | |
| 04:04 | that kind of thing | |
| 04:04 | just old, supersceeded versions, but with their large files still around. | |
| 04:05 | it's supposed to clean them up, but apparently it doesn't always. | |
| 04:05 | wizzyrea | harm in nuking it? |
| 04:05 | eythian | none, there's tools to do it for me. |
| 04:05 | right now the whole thing is 1.2GB | |
| 04:06 | dcook | Any chance of people downloading the wrong/outdated files? |
| 04:06 | eythian | no. |
| 04:06 | unless they actively go looking for them | |
| 04:07 | $ reprepro dumpunreferenced | xargs du -hc | tail -1 | |
| 04:07 | 989Mtotaal | |
| 04:07 | wizzyrea | yeh, I'd get rid of it |
| 04:07 | dcook | Hmm, I wonder why the tools aren't always doing it then |
| 04:07 | eythian | that's how much is unused |
| 04:07 | dcook | Wow |
| 04:09 | eythian | down to 287MB now, that's more reasonable |
| 04:12 | dcook | :D |
| 04:17 | wizzyrea | wooot |
| 04:27 | eythian | dependencies for moving 3.10 to oldstable built, new stuff uploading now. |
| 04:30 | * uploaded | |
| 04:32 | dcook | ^_^ |
| 04:32 | wizzyrea | eythian++ |
| 04:32 | dcook | I was hoping that the 3.12 packages would be up in time for my first Koha-Debian install |
| 04:32 | eythian++ | |
| 04:34 | All right, belated lunch time pour moi | |
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| 05:10 | aj_ | Can anyone suggest how to modify email headers from koha? |
| 05:42 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "how do i get to 3.12.0 from here?" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/21 |
| 05:43 | eythian | ah. |
| 05:43 | the RC version numbers were built in a way that doesn't work. | |
| 05:45 | magnuse: try apt-get install koha-common=3.12.00-1 | |
| 05:46 | magnuse | The following packages will be DOWNGRADED: |
| 05:46 | koha-common | |
| 05:46 | wahanui | koha-common is, like, the one you want, the main koha one needs a bit more work (its for setting up a single instance) |
| 05:46 | magnuse | that looks promising :-) |
| 05:46 | eythian | magnuse: yep |
| 05:46 | magnuse | excellent |
| 05:46 | eythian++ | |
| 05:46 | thanks! | |
| 05:46 | eythian | np |
| 05:55 | magnuse | rfps-- |
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| 06:33 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:33 | dcook | hey ya reiveune |
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| 06:38 | jajm | hello |
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| 06:41 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
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| 06:52 | aj_ | i am upgrading to koha 3.12 on a production environment |
| 06:53 | can i enable Use memcached and memoize to cache the results of some function calls? during update? | |
| 06:53 | it was not enabled in the previous installation | |
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| 06:54 | samueld | hi everybody :-) |
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| 07:11 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 07:13 | dcook | morning cait :) |
| 07:13 | cait | morning dcook |
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| 07:16 | dcook | hi francharb |
| 07:16 | night #koha | |
| 07:16 | matts | hi #koha ! |
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| 07:18 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:18 | wahanui | kai ora, gaetan_B |
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| 07:20 | cait | hi matts and gaetan_B :) |
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| 07:22 | gaetan_B | hi cait :) still on holiday ? |
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| 07:22 | cait | yesterday was a holiday, today is just vacation :) |
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| 09:32 | magnuse | christophe_c++ |
| 09:32 | christophe_c | magnuse: ;-) |
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| 10:08 | rangi | getting there |
| 10:08 | http://ratings.koha-community.org/ | |
| 10:09 | plus https://gitorious.org/koha/mai[…]6ecfef65e74ecd581 | |
| 10:14 | magnuse | wow, that is very cool! |
| 10:14 | rangi++ | |
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| 10:21 | magnuse | too bad we don't have better IDs than ISBN to base it on... |
| 10:23 | rangi | yeah, isbn and issn is really all we have for now |
| 10:23 | cait | very cool rangi++ |
| 10:23 | magnuse | just you wait until we have cool linked data URIs ;-) |
| 10:24 | rangi | that will be cool :) |
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| 11:53 | samueld | hi, i've a git question: I've made a git remote update and a git rebase v3.12.00 on my test instance but i keep the same version(3.11.00.203), An idea? |
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| 11:59 | drojf | hi #koha |
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| 12:23 | NateC | morning! |
| 12:23 | wahanui | morning is a state of cat |
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| 12:26 | drojf | hi NateC |
| 12:26 | not much going on here today | |
| 12:26 | NateC | all quiet on the Koha front? |
| 12:27 | drojf | looks like it. probably hung-over from release parties |
| 12:27 | * cait | waves |
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| 12:27 | * drojf | waves to cait |
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| 12:29 | cait | hi khall_away :) |
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| 12:33 | cait | hi oleonard |
| 12:33 | oleonard | Hi |
| 12:41 | tcohen | morning cait oleonard |
| 12:43 | drojf | hi oleonard and tcohen |
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| 12:56 | oleonard | I'm surprised Bug 10267 hasn't come up before |
| 12:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10267 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , No error message when entering an invalid cardnumber |
| 12:57 | oleonard | Easy enough to set maxlength on the text input, but I suspect people also want some kind of JS warning if they have hit the limit (say, from a barcode scan) |
| 12:57 | Or better just to up the limit to 50 or 100 and forget maxlength? | |
| 13:00 | drojf | i wonder if it is worth to ask people again to stop cross-posting or just give up |
| 13:00 | cait | oleonard: we were setting up staff acounts, trying to use the name |
| 13:00 | samueld | what does it mean this message when i use opac as a cms "Software error: Global symbol "$cgi" requires explicit package name at /home/koha/kohaclone/opac/pages.pl line 63. syntax error at /home/koha/kohaclone/opac/pages.pl line 70, near ") {" Execution of /home/koha/kohaclone/opac/pages.pl aborted due to compilation errors." |
| 13:01 | jcamins | You have a syntax error in the Perl. |
| 13:01 | cait | samueld: the koha as a cms hack is probably not suitabel for current versions |
| 13:02 | jcamins | And, yeah, I think using that is a bad idea. |
| 13:02 | cait | oleonard: not sure i understand your suggestions - cardnumber is 16 chars |
| 13:03 | oleonard | cait: Change the db? |
| 13:03 | wahanui | oleonard: that doesn't look right |
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| 13:03 | oleonard | Sorry wahanui |
| 13:03 | cait | oleonard: a warning message would be nice, that the value entered is too long, not sure how easy it is to do - could we use the new form validation thing? |
| 13:03 | * oleonard | dusts off wahanui |
| 13:03 | cait | no i think actually 16 is quite reasonable |
| 13:03 | samueld | yes, that 's for why i battle with the head of the library who wants to have a complete website with koha, instead of using other tools like drupal |
| 13:03 | jcamins | samueld: tell him/her that if s/he wants to do that, s/he will almost certainly have to pay a developer to write the feature. |
| 13:04 | That should persuade your boss it's not a good idea. :) | |
| 13:04 | Well... maybe, anyway. ;0 | |
| 13:04 | *;) | |
| 13:05 | samueld | yes, good idea and with the financial restrictions in high school, that will be difficult |
| 13:05 | jcamins | My thought exactly. Drupal already exists and does not require a large up-front investment. |
| 13:07 | cait | there are lots of nice open source options for creating websites |
| 13:10 | drojf | like html |
| 13:10 | * drojf | hides |
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| 13:20 | Dyrcona | Ooh. Catalyst IT got mentioned in an op-ed on stuff.co.nz. No mention of Koha, though. |
| 13:21 | jcamins | Dyrcona: the Koha Catalyst not the EG Catalyst, right? |
| 13:21 | :) | |
| 13:22 | Dyrcona | jcamins: Right. In an op-ed about Wellington and the latest round of disparaging remarks against the capital city. |
| 13:22 | jcamins | Dyrcona: I didn't realize that you followed NZ news. |
| 13:22 | * Dyrcona | has been thinking of moving there, but is now leaning towards Uruguay. |
| 13:23 | jcamins | And, I can't say I'm too surprised by the mention... Catalyst runs stuff.co.nz. |
| 13:23 | Uruguay? | |
| 13:25 | Dyrcona | I did not know that Catalyst runs stuff.co.nz. |
| 13:25 | As for Uruguay, it looks like a good choice based on personal liberty and lifestyle. | |
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| 13:35 | drojf | oleonard++ # useful email > complaining on irc |
| 13:35 | now make that an auto-reply to every live dvd topic | |
| 13:37 | gerundio | hey guys, long time :) |
| 13:37 | I'm performing my 1st Koha update from 3.08.05 to 3.08.12 | |
| 13:37 | cait | Dyrcona: i don't know anything about uruguay, but wellington seemed rather nice :) |
| 13:37 | gerundio | so far so good |
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| 13:38 | gerundio | but I just noticed that bug 7973 says "This patch has been pushed to master." on March 23rd but didn't make it to this release |
| 13:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7973 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Allow for new type of LDAP authentication |
| 13:38 | gerundio | I've seen version 3.12.0 release notes (http://koha-community.org/koha-3-12-0-released/) and it's there |
| 13:39 | cait | it should be in there |
| 13:39 | why do you think it is not? | |
| 13:39 | gerundio | does this mean that it won't make it to the 3.8.x branch where I solved it in the 1st place? |
| 13:39 | cait | it's a new feature |
| 13:40 | therefore it won't go into maintenance versions | |
| 13:40 | it should be in 312, but it will not go down fromthere | |
| 13:40 | gerundio | ok, thanks for the heads up cait++ |
| 13:42 | btw, in the meantime I'm thinking of updating koha to 3.10.x or 3.12.x ... is the upgrade process similar to this one I just performed or are there any major changes to it? | |
| 13:42 | cait | it owuld be similar |
| 13:42 | jcamins | gerundio: same process, but it takes a bit longer. |
| 13:42 | Well, much longer. | |
| 13:43 | gerundio | but other than that, config files and such remained the same? |
| 13:45 | cait | gerundio: what do you mean? |
| 13:46 | jcamins | The same files exist. They just have to be updated the same as they were from 3.8.5 to 3.8.12. |
| 13:46 | gerundio | my config file from 3.8.5 to 3.8.12 remained exactly the same |
| 13:47 | jcamins | Right, but that's because there were no changes, not because you didn't have to update them. |
| 13:47 | drojf | gerundio: what do you mean by "solved it in the first place"? did you write the patch against 3.8 and not master? |
| 13:47 | gerundio | jcamins, I know |
| 13:47 | jcamins | There will be minor changes to the config files, but no changes to the process. |
| 13:48 | gerundio | jcamins, ok :) |
| 13:49 | drojf, long time since I've done it, in the end it wasn't even me the one to submit the patch | |
| 13:49 | you can see the bug history | |
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| 13:54 | gerundio | drojf, yes :p |
| 13:55 | drojf | gerundio: then you submitted the patch ;) the others only signed off and passed qa. and chris did a tiny follow-up |
| 13:55 | afaics | |
| 13:56 | gerundio | drojf, vfernandes did something regarding the patch too |
| 13:56 | I know I had some trouble with git at the time | |
| 13:56 | in order to submit the patch according to koha's rules | |
| 13:57 | anyhow, since it isn't going to make it to 3.8.x I'll have to patch it myself everytime I update in that branch | |
| 13:58 | drojf | true |
| 13:58 | gerundio | btw, it won't make it to 3.10.x either, right? |
| 14:01 | nengard | anyone know what 'flagged' means in terms of subfields in frameworks? |
| 14:01 | cait | no idea, it seems it was always there, but we never noticed |
| 14:03 | bbl | |
| 14:05 | nengard | hehe |
| 14:05 | anyone know why jenkins isn't checking the manual anymore? | |
| 14:06 | not a big deal, just curious | |
| 14:07 | oleonard | jenkins_koha: RTFM! |
| 14:07 | jenkins_koha | oleonard did you mean me? Unknown command 'RTFM!' |
| 14:07 | Use '!jenkins help' to get help! | |
| 14:07 | nengard | LOL |
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| 14:13 | nengard | hmm ... well jenkins is working, just not on the manual |
| 14:13 | :) | |
| 14:14 | :p (is what i meant) | |
| 14:15 | drojf | why is there "When installing on Ubuntu Lucid, you will need to manually install these files first: "-stuff in the "Koha on debian squeeze"-wiki page? |
| 14:18 | oleonard | copypasta? |
| 14:19 | drojf | i'm sure that wasn't on there when i prepared my workshop, around last december. unforunately i am too stupid to use the compare revisions thing |
| 14:20 | now that i wanted to tell people "it's easy, just use this", i consider the page to confusing to do that | |
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| 14:21 | drojf | *too |
| 14:22 | maybe it has always been there and i kicked it out of my notes immediately | |
| 14:23 | * tcohen | found MGMT good background music for the Rmaint task |
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| 14:27 | drojf | how does the repository work now? 3.12=squeeze, 3.10==oldstable… what about 3.8? |
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| 14:43 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 14:43 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #65: "<wizzyrea_> koha doesn't make you pizza... it only makes you pizza metadata" (added by gmcharlt at 05:00 PM, March 02, 2010) |
| 14:43 | gmcharlt | @later tell drojf hoarystable ? |
| 14:43 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:43 | wahanui | I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS |
| 14:46 | nengard | HA |
| 14:47 | tcohen | nengard: are u ok with the solution oleonard provided for bug 6399? |
| 14:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6399 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , tooltip for tags that says 'separate by comma' |
| 14:48 | nengard | yes ... i signed off on it :) |
| 14:48 | I agree that we can do a follow up with adding that tip to other pages, but the patch is sound and fixes the problem | |
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| 14:49 | tcohen | yes, it clarifies the user on how to add tags |
| 14:49 | but doesn't add a tooltip :-D | |
| 14:49 | nengard | oh, i'm not picky - as long as it get clarified I trust oleonard to choose how to do that |
| 14:49 | i wouldn't have signed off if i had a problem with it | |
| 14:50 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #42: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/42/ |
| 14:50 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 10191: Close 2 option tags in unimarc_field_115a.tt and unimarc_field_116.tt | |
| 14:50 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10178 - Typos in plugins for 006 and 008 in MARC21 | |
| 14:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10191 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , 2 option tags are not closed in unimarc_field_115a.tt and unimarc_field_116.tt |
| 14:50 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10178 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , Typos in plugins for 006 and 008 in MARC21 | |
| 14:50 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #43 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 15:01 | pianohacker | good morning |
| 15:06 | oleonard | Hi pianohacker |
| 15:08 | pianohacker: Have you used require.js/angular.js/something similar? | |
| 15:09 | pianohacker | oleonard: I've been experimenting a bit with require on a personal project, and we used require at the USGS. I quite like it |
| 15:10 | oleonard | It was recommended to me but I don't know much about it yet |
| 15:11 | Every time I think about how it might be used with Koha I go off on a tangent about some other JS issue | |
| 15:13 | * oleonard | is working right now with Modernizr + enquire.js to try to address some responsive layout issues with the new Bootstrap OPAC |
| 15:14 | pianohacker | ooh |
| 15:14 | that sounds quite interesting | |
| 15:15 | oleonard | enquire.js lets you trigger JavaScript events based on media-query-like breakpoints |
| 15:15 | I'm trying it here because I used it with success on another project | |
| 15:17 | pianohacker | that's very handy |
| 15:17 | I can only imagine the browser hackery required to make it, though... | |
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| 15:25 | Rafael_br | Hi everyone. |
| 15:26 | pianohacker | hello |
| 15:26 | Rafael_br | I am trying to install koha 3.12 in ubuntu 13.04 using the instructions in the wiki page. I have carefulled followed every step, but when I try to login to admin interface I get the following eror: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/perl5/DBI.pm line 2054. |
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| 15:26 | Rafael_br | Is this a known issue? Should I downgrade to 3.10? |
| 15:27 | The only step I did not follow was to tweak trhe host file, because for now I am ok with using localhost:80 | |
| 15:29 | I googled this error, I found a bug, but with problems to create an order. But I have not been able to access the interface admin at all. | |
| 15:30 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:33 | Owen Leonard: Bug 6399 - tooltip for tags that says 'separate by comma' | |
| 15:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6399 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , tooltip for tags that says 'separate by comma' |
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| 15:35 | pianohacker | Rafael_br: Is there anything else on screen or in your error logs? That error makes sense, but there's a number of things that could cause it |
| 15:39 | Rafael_br | pianohacker: in log, prior to the line I pasted I get |
| 15:39 | [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Tue May 21 12:28:37 2013] maintenance.pl: DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Table 'koha_biblioteca.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 558. | |
| 15:39 | maintenance.pl: Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 317. | |
| 15:40 | pianohacker | Rafael_br: Hmm, it sounds like something went a bit funky while installing the database |
| 15:40 | Rafael_br | I did the steps to create the koha instance in sql. Replacing library for biblioteca (liubray in portuguese). Now I see that this table was not created... Is this table created by the installer? |
| 15:41 | pianohacker | Rafael_br: Yes, it should be |
| 15:41 | Would you mind logging into mysql and checking to see if that table exists and has contents? | |
| 15:41 | Rafael_br | should I repeat : sudo koha-create --create-db biblioteca |
| 15:42 | pianohacker | No, that should have worked |
| 15:42 | jcamins | You need to go through the web installer. |
| 15:42 | Rafael_br | But I cant access the web installer... Trying to reach localhost:80 gives me the first error |
| 15:43 | jcamins | Disable DEBUG in your Apache host file. |
| 15:44 | * jcamins | isn't really here though. |
| 15:44 | Rafael_br | jcamins: you mean /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/biblioteca ? I can't find debug enabled here |
| 15:45 | oleonard | jcamins is on a Caribbean beach sipping piña coladas after receiving his RM bonus check |
| 15:45 | Rafael_br | pianohacker: will log in sql. Sorry did not see your suggestion |
| 15:46 | pianohacker | np |
| 15:48 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 15:49 | jcamins | Somehow tje DEBUG environment variablw is set. |
| 15:49 | Rafael_br | mysql> show tables from koha_biblioteca; Empty set (0.00 sec) |
| 15:49 | hum, no tables created | |
| 15:49 | jcamins | oleonard, no, still waitinfg on tje check. |
| 15:50 | Rafael_br | the database seems to be empty |
| 15:50 | oleonard | Rafael_br: If the web installer hasn't run there won't be any tables yet |
| 15:50 | pianohacker | jcamins: Does that cause the installer to try to select from the db before it's ready? |
| 15:50 | jcamins | Right, because you can't gwt ti the installer. |
| 15:50 | Rafael_br | oleonard: But to run the webinstaller I have to access the webinterface in,localhost:80 right? |
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| 15:51 | Rafael_br | Maybe this is what I got wrong |
| 15:51 | jcamins | Yes. Hence the DEBUG guess. |
| 15:51 | My patch failed qa and I didn't care enough. | |
| 15:51 | oleonard | Rafael_br: Yes, if you configured the staff interface to run on :80. Usually that's the port the OPAC runs on. |
| 15:52 | Rafael_br | oleonard: I used the /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf exampled in ubuntu installation wiki. |
| 15:52 | INTRAPORT="80" # TCP listening port for the administration interface | |
| 15:53 | jcamins | And you set up DNS? |
| 15:53 | Rafael_br | jcamins: No because I am ok with using it from 127.0.0.1:80 for now |
| 15:53 | jcamins | That doesn't work. |
| 15:54 | Rafael_br | jcamins: I see, maybe because of rewrite modules? Ok, I will configure DNS |
| 15:54 | jcamins | You have two sites on tje same port and same IP. |
| 15:54 | Apache doesn't know which you want. | |
| 15:54 | Rafael_br | jcamins: I see.. And apache rewrite need dns to take care of it, tight? |
| 15:55 | jcamins: Ok, I will resume this step I skipped. Thanks a lot everyone. I think everything will be ok now | |
| 15:55 | jcamins | No, just birtual host configuration. |
| 15:55 | Rafael_br | jcamins: Ok.. But I have no domain registered. So I just cheat tweaking hosts file. |
| 15:56 | jcamins | Right. |
| 15:56 | pianohacker | Rafael_br: Any chance you could post /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/biblioteca on pastebin.com ? |
| 15:56 | jcamins | Or change the port. |
| 15:56 | wahanui | jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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| 15:57 | Rafael_br | pianohacker: Yes, 1 sec |
| 15:58 | pianohacker: http://pastebin.com/FVC6xkD4 | |
| 15:58 | oleonard | pianohacker: We also have http://paste.koha-community.org :) |
| 15:59 | pianohacker | oleonard: Thanks, I was trying to find that |
| 15:59 | oleonard | Just ask! |
| 15:59 | paste? | |
| 15:59 | wahanui | I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 15:59 | pianohacker | Rafael_br: Try going to http://localhost:8080/ |
| 16:00 | thanks wahanui | |
| 16:00 | Rafael_br | pianohacker: No response. |
| 16:00 | pianohacker: It is not listening in 8080 | |
| 16:01 | netstat -ntl show me no listening in 8080 | |
| 16:01 | pianohacker | Rafael_br: add Listen 8080 to /etc/apache/ports.conf ,then restart apache |
| 16:02 | Rafael_br | pianohacker: Thanks |
| 16:03 | pianohacker: It worked, I get a login dialog | |
| 16:03 | so my admin interface is in 8080. And after I run the web installer client will access in 80, right? | |
| 16:03 | pianohacker | Rafael_br: the opac will be on 80, yes |
| 16:03 | Rafael_br | maybe this step is missing in ubuntu installer wiki |
| 16:04 | pianohacker | oleonard: In other, unrelated news: http://codepen.io/TimPietrusky/pen/eHGfj |
| 16:05 | Rafael_br | Thanks a lot! I can go lunch happily. I will be here frequently this days... I am setting up a small library in Brasil for a Educational Workers Center.. I also hope to contribute with translation t portuguese! |
| 16:06 | oleonard | pianohacker: Thinking of updating the web installer interface perhaps? ;) |
| 16:06 | pianohacker | hahahaha |
| 16:06 | Rafael_br: Did the installer open up after you logged in? | |
| 16:07 | Rafael_br | pianohacker: Yes, it is asking me the language. For now I have only en. I will read the docs about installing other languages |
| 16:07 | pianohacker | Rafael_br: okay, awesome. |
| 16:07 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, pianohacker |
| 16:11 | druthb | awesome! |
| 16:11 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, druthb |
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| 16:11 | druthb | wahanui: botsnack cookie |
| 16:11 | wahanui | thanks druthb :) |
| 16:11 | * druthb | blames melia, today. |
| 16:11 | melia | morning druthb :) |
| 16:12 | druthb | mornin'. |
| 16:12 | pianohacker | good morning druthb |
| 16:12 | druthb | Hi, pianohacker! :) |
| 16:15 | mmmm…Jamaican buffet…. | |
| 16:15 | pianohacker | that sounds really good |
| 16:15 | druthb | One of the many benefits at cPanel. Daily catered lunch |
| 16:16 | oleonard | Swank. |
| 16:16 | druthb | Srsly. Snacks, everyone equipped with dual monitors that wants 'em, with *nice* headphones. |
| 16:16 | oleonard | Maybe not so good for after-lunch productivity, unless they offer siesta couches too? |
| 16:17 | druthb | A few folks do not have desks, but have chosen sofas, or (in one case) a honkin' big conference table. |
| 16:17 | Standing desks, if you want 'em... | |
| 16:18 | …and the boss-man occasionally does nice things for us. Last Friday, he bought out a whole 7:00PM showing of the new Star Trek film for us. | |
| 16:19 | pianohacker | ... which was quite good |
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| 16:19 | druthb | indeed. |
| 16:19 | * oleonard | is a Star Trek curmudgeon |
| 16:19 | druthb | And in a room full of Unix/Linux/Mac geeks, watching the previews system crash and show a *windows* error was *priceless* |
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| 16:30 | pianohacker | oleonard: Which series? |
| 16:32 | oleonard | pianohacker: I'm grumpy about Abrams' new movies. Makes me want to go back and watch the original series instead. |
| 16:32 | pianohacker | gotcha |
| 16:36 | druthb | the new films, while rearranging the universe…have one thing in common with TOS that seems to irk some women. Instead of the strong, competent women of DS9 and VOY and ENT, we're seeing very TOSsy, here-I-am-in-a-short-skirt-save-me-Jim-Kirk women. |
| 16:38 | pianohacker | yeah, they definitely brought that forward, especially for Uhura and (Alice Eve) |
| 16:38 | druthb | Definitely. Uhura is less aloof and prissy than she was in TOS, but it's still very 60's-ish. |
| 16:39 | (Disclaimer: I'm in a unique position, having seen VOY through two sets of eyes, and it's *radically* different through a woman's lens. So I'm biased about such matters.) | |
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| 16:47 | pianohacker | druthb: Even just having janeway and 7 of 9 in the same series makes for an interesting combo :) |
| 16:49 | druthb | Yes, although Seven is *much* less of a serious character. The comedic relief of Data, in a catsuit to make the fanboys drooool. (Well, fair 'nuf. And fangirls.) But Janeway was an awesome captain, given the screwy situations. |
| 16:51 | oleonard | "Into Darkness" didn't exactly pass the Bechdel test did it? |
| 16:52 | * druthb | thinks. |
| 16:52 | druthb | No, I don't believe it did. |
| 16:53 | There were only a couple of women who were more than bit-parts *at all*, and I don't recall them interacting much at all. | |
| 16:56 | pianohacker | I think at this point it's easier to keep a list of movies that pass bechdel than ones that fail it, unfortunately... |
| 16:58 | * oleonard | was reminded of it when thinking about Janeway & 7 of 9 |
| 17:02 | druthb | They frequently talked *about* men, without breaking the sprit of bechdel, IMO…crewmates, work, etc. But quite often, the episodes passed that test. |
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| 17:31 | seneca | Hello everyone - we're running into a strange issue that may have something to do with a bug we've found a thread about, but I wanted to check with the experts: |
| 17:31 | http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ch-td5740600.html | |
| 17:31 | that's the bug | |
| 17:32 | our site is at libs.mvschool.com | |
| 17:32 | in case anyone wants to see it first hand | |
| 17:33 | cait | seneca: did it work before? |
| 17:34 | did you do an update or something before it stopped working? | |
| 17:35 | hm not sure I see the problem in your catalog | |
| 17:36 | jcamins | Ahhh... life is good when you're not RM. |
| 17:36 | cait | lol |
| 17:36 | jcamins | Ayup. I could get used to this. |
| 17:36 | * druthb | chuckles |
| 17:37 | seneca | cait, we didn't notice this happening in alignment with a certain update |
| 17:37 | if you go to our tag cloud and choose the vacation tag, for example | |
| 17:37 | cait | seneca: what exactly happened? I can see the availability just fine |
| 17:37 | seneca | then go to the last of the three result pages... |
| 17:38 | cait | hm i see |
| 17:38 | but it only happens for some | |
| 17:38 | seneca | yeah, say for "Turtle in Paradise" |
| 17:38 | cait | i see it happens for the lemonade war |
| 17:38 | have you tried reindexing? | |
| 17:38 | seneca | clicking through on hat entry shows the correct availability, but the tag cloud results don't |
| 17:39 | additionally, a regular search for say, "turtles," will return this book and have the availability correct, so it's just the tag cloud query that is incorrect, and only for some records | |
| 17:40 | the bug thread I linked to sounds like it was the same symptom, but there seemed to be some question as to the nature of the issue | |
| 17:40 | cait | i haven't read about this particular problem - i would suggest you open a new bug on bugzilla |
| 17:41 | seneca | OK - will do, just wanted to see if anyone knew more details about that bug... it seemed not-quite-resolved in the thread |
| 17:41 | thanks! | |
| 17:43 | cait | sorry that I can't help |
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| 17:47 | zzzzzzz | woah,sebchat is ridiculous on my phone |
| 17:47 | webchat | |
| 17:50 | drojf | uh the font suddenly grew |
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| 17:58 | * gmcharlt | sends up the QA alert -- bug 8215 (course reserves) is really close to being ready for merge into master |
| 17:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8215 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add Course Reserves |
| 17:58 | cait | I need to get some other things done this week - maybe i can take a look at the weenend |
| 18:05 | gmcharlt++ lots of follow ups :) | |
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| 18:07 | * jcamins | waves to hankbank and offers (much-) belated congratulations on his library's expansion. |
| 18:08 | jcamins | (I saw an announcement about a new position several weeks or months ago and made a mental note to say something congratulatory about it) |
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| 18:11 | drojf | good evening from a real computer |
| 18:11 | oleonard | Good evening from a real human |
| 18:12 | drojf | lol |
| 18:13 | oleonard | Of course that's just the kind of thing a deceptive chatbot would say |
| 18:14 | gmcharlt | oleonard: yeah, I think a higher level of proof is needed to show that you're not just an excellent CSS-emitting machine ;) |
| 18:15 | cait | :) |
| 18:15 | the speed of his patch writing at least suggests a super human | |
| 18:16 | oleonard | The tough part is to throw in some stupid mistakes, get some patches failed often enough. |
| 18:16 | drojf | heh |
| 18:17 | * jcamins | proffers a foolproof test: |
| 18:17 | jcamins | oleonard: what is your position on mozzarella marinated in olive oil and herbs? |
| 18:17 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7883 - Save and continue editing for cataloging <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3eeb8d5844fabbc86> |
| 18:18 | oleonard | jcamins: Olive oil gums up my joints |
| 18:18 | Whoops. | |
| 18:18 | cait | lol |
| 18:18 | gmcharlt | oleonard++ |
| 18:24 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1188 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1185 1 day 1 hr ago) |
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| 18:28 | ryanlee | Hey all, this is Ryan from Northeast Kansas Library System. |
| 18:29 | pianohacker | hi ryan |
| 18:29 | ryanlee | Got a question for you guys. |
| 18:30 | Does anyone know who manages the domain name: koha-community.org? | |
| 18:31 | jcamins | Yeah, rangi takes care of it. |
| 18:31 | pianohacker | rangi++ |
| 18:31 | (on general principle) | |
| 18:31 | why do you ask? | |
| 18:32 | ryanlee | Moving the website to a new server, need the domain name pointed at its IP. |
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| 18:32 | ryanlee | Emailed the tech contact on the WHOIS record but got no reply. |
| 18:32 | Lol, so thought I'd come here. | |
| 18:33 | smeagol\ | Hi, i'm installing a koha dev version. Can I install as root, or should i install as another user? |
| 18:33 | bshum | Random aside, I'm at PGCon (PostgreSQL conference) and the guy sitting next to me migrated his local library from Follett to Koha couple years back. Small world that even at a DB conf I can manage to sit next to other folks who works with libraries. |
| 18:33 | gmcharlt | bshum: tell him we're all waving at him |
| 18:33 | ryanlee | pianohacker, you got rangi's Email address? |
| 18:34 | drojf | smeagol\: do you mean a git installation? |
| 18:34 | pianohacker | Probably better to leave him a note, like so: |
| 18:34 | * oleonard | looks around and whispers, "He's probably watching us now!" |
| 18:34 | pianohacker | @later tell rangi "11:32 AM PST < ryanlee> Moving the website (koha-community.org) to a new server, need the domain name pointed at its IP." |
| 18:34 | huginn | pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:34 | wahanui | I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS |
| 18:34 | gmcharlt | ryanlee: I'm also a DNS admin for that domain |
| 18:35 | can you advise what timeframe you're looking at for the server move? | |
| 18:36 | jcamins | smeagol\: you _can_ install as root, but if you're talking about a git installation, please don't. |
| 18:36 | ryanlee | gmcharlt, I see, cool. I'm going to move the site files today probably after I give the website a once over to make sure everything is in order. |
| 18:36 | gmcharlt, If that works for you, that is, the old server is probably going to be shut down at the end of next week. | |
| 18:37 | gmcharlt, So the move can be made anytime between now and then. | |
| 18:39 | smeagol\ | drojf\ yes, a git installation, sorry |
| 18:39 | ok, who should i install as then. It doesn't really say in install.debian unless i missed it. | |
| 18:40 | jcamins | smeagol\: the user you're going to be developing as. |
| 18:40 | You don't want to be leaving a root terminal around. | |
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| 18:42 | smeagol\ | ok, what priviledges should i give me? |
| 18:44 | jcamins | I always give myself (ALL) ALL, but in fact you shouldn't need any sudo privileges to develop for Koha using Apache. |
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| 18:46 | oleonard | Progress on the Bootstrap theme's responsiveness: http://screencast.com/t/mYxu11cun |
| 18:46 | gmcharlt | ryanlee: might need to hold off for a bit -- the web management interface for the DNS service appears to be FUBAR at the moment |
| 18:47 | jcamins | oleonard++ # nice! |
| 18:48 | drojf | oleonard: that is really cool |
| 18:48 | maximep | yeah, nice |
| 18:50 | smeagol\ | ok thanks, i'll install as myself from a terminal and not a root prompt, right? |
| 18:50 | pianohacker | What's the usual way to add a systempreference these days? atomicupdate or updatedatabase.pl? |
| 18:50 | oleonard | updatedatabase.pl |
| 18:50 | wahanui | hmmm... updatedatabase.pl is still running. |
| 18:50 | oleonard | Go and catch it wahanui |
| 18:51 | gmcharlt | ryanlee: OK, and now it (the DNS manager) is bending to my will |
| 18:51 | pianohacker | stop, updatedatabase.pl, stop! |
| 18:52 | anyway. Okay. Saw some syspref additions through atomicupdates, is there a reason we aren't using it? | |
| 18:52 | Plus, are we still doing the trick of using XXX for the rev number and letting the RM assign it? | |
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| 18:53 | cait | yes still XXX |
| 18:53 | gmcharlt | pianohacker: yep, still XXX |
| 18:53 | cait | also add it to the right .pref file ;) |
| 18:53 | but you of all people will know that :) | |
| 18:53 | gmcharlt | and DB updates in general ... are still a point of contension |
| 18:53 | contention, even | |
| 18:53 | pianohacker | contension: disagreements on the running of conventions? |
| 18:54 | gmcharlt | pianohacker++ |
| 18:54 | pianohacker | and yeah, I got the .pref file ;) |
| 18:54 | gmcharlt | also, generally speaking patches aren't going to get bounced just because of trivial merge conflicts with updatedatabase.pl -- dealing wth those is one of my jobs |
| 18:54 | cait | :) |
| 18:55 | gmcharlt: you make me use the dictionary a lot :) guess new RM = new vocabulary :) | |
| 18:55 | jcamins | lol |
| 18:55 | pianohacker++ | |
| 18:59 | smeagol\ | Can i put myself in root group to do a git install, or should I do it as sudoer, if I don't, i can't edit index.list or any root owned file? |
| 19:00 | jcamins | smeagol\: you can do it however you'd like. I only ever use sudo. |
| 19:00 | cait | oleonard: it's very nice! |
| 19:00 | jcamins | That's not really a Koha issue so much as a question of how you administer your servers. No need to change that. |
| 19:07 | smeagol\: BTW, what is index.list? | |
| 19:12 | smeagol\ | jcamins\indexdata.list |
| 19:13 | jcamins | smeagol\: oh, I thought you were asking about installing Koha itself. Naturally you're going to need to be root or have root privileges to install the dependencies. |
| 19:35 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 19:35 | Project Koha_master build #1188: FIXED in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1188/ | |
| 19:35 | Liz Rea: Bug 7883 - Save and continue editing for cataloging | |
| 19:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7883 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Pushed to Master , save and continue editing |
| 19:43 | jcamins | yui-- |
| 19:44 | oleonard: any idea what yui-t7 is? | |
| 19:44 | rangi | when are you doing the move ryanlee ? |
| 19:44 | drojf | a fancy cocktail? |
| 19:44 | oleonard | Where do you see it jcamins? |
| 19:44 | drojf | like the yui-tai |
| 19:45 | * jcamins | makes the sign agains the evil eye... circ/circulation.tt. |
| 19:45 | pianohacker | *shiver* |
| 19:45 | oleonard | It's one of the various grid definitions, but I don't recall off the top of my head what it does |
| 19:47 | jcamins: I think it means a main body <div> with no sidebar | |
| 19:47 | jcamins | oleonard: that's what I was thinking it might be too. |
| 19:51 | oleonard | Are you seeing a problem jcamins? |
| 19:51 | jcamins | oleonard: it's really hard to figure out what our goal was. |
| 19:51 | That's all. | |
| 19:55 | * tcohen | thinks its nice to see jcamins volunteer for documenting now he has spare time :-P |
| 19:56 | jcamins | tcohen: ha! |
| 19:56 | tcohen: I'd have to have some idea what the heck that does before I could document it, and my goal was actually just to find code to delete. | |
| 19:56 | oleonard | A belated happy birthday to you rangi |
| 19:57 | tcohen | heh |
| 19:57 | happy birthday rangi! | |
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| 20:26 | jcamins | What possible reason could there be for me wanting to rate my own music in iTunes? |
| 20:27 | Apparently that's considered more probable than me wanting to listen to said music. | |
| 20:28 | maximep | why would u want to listen to music un itunes :P |
| 20:28 | jcamins | maximep: I don't, actually. |
| 20:28 | I double clicked an MP3 and it opened. | |
| 20:28 | maximep | good! |
| 20:28 | jcamins | Then I decided I wanted to listen to more music. |
| 20:28 | So I rated it, and there was no music. | |
| 20:29 | (because I had rated it not started it) | |
| 20:30 | nengard | preliminary kohacon program: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]KohaCon13_Program |
| 20:31 | and now i head out for the day | |
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| 20:36 | DisneyDave | Hello |
| 20:36 | cait | hi DisneyDave |
| 20:37 | DisneyDave | We just installed a fresh version of 3.10 |
| 20:38 | jcamins | DisneyDave: careful. With that nick people might think that you work at Disney. :) (yes, I know you do) |
| 20:38 | DisneyDave | We copied the MYSQL dump from the old installaton |
| 20:38 | and imported it into 3.10 | |
| 20:38 | How do we fix the schema | |
| 20:38 | Hey jcamins! | |
| 20:38 | wahanui | i guess jcamins is insane. |
| 20:39 | DisneyDave | Come visit WDW |
| 20:39 | jcamins | DisneyDave: did you use the packages? |
| 20:39 | DisneyDave | to install the new one, yes we used packages |
| 20:39 | jcamins | \o/ |
| 20:39 | Packages are awesome. | |
| 20:40 | It's very challenging... step 1: run `sudo koha-upgrade-schema [your-installation-name]`. Step 2: go enjoy a ride at the amusement park. Step 3: regretfully go back to work on your upgraded installation. | |
| 20:40 | DisneyDave | go to disneykoha.cloudapp.net to see error |
| 20:41 | jcamins | Actually, not so challenging, you may have gathered. :) |
| 20:41 | tcohen | koha-upgrade-to-3.4 |
| 20:41 | jcamins | DisneyDave: you were on 3.6 before, right? |
| 20:41 | DisneyDave | we are not sure of version prior. How can we tell? |
| 20:42 | Will we need to redo zebra after schema upgrade? | |
| 20:42 | jcamins | Hmmm... you could check in MySQL. But, when did you install it? |
| 20:42 | cait | your about koha page would show the version |
| 20:42 | jcamins | cait: not if they're in maintenance mode. |
| 20:42 | cait | if you can access that? |
| 20:42 | DisneyDave | Dev version: 3.09.00.004 |
| 20:43 | jcamins | Yeah, so follow my three-step process and you'll be good to go. |
| 20:43 | DisneyDave | Zebra is done - we are running schema now |
| 20:43 | BTW you all rock | |
| 20:43 | I love Koha | |
| 20:44 | and I finally have someone to help | |
| 20:44 | jcamins | :D |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 20:44 | DisneyDave | Is Nicole on? |
| 20:44 | tcohen | you should also know that 3.12 is awesome DisneyDave |
| 20:44 | jcamins | You can tell your bosses that Koha's former RM instructed you to take a break and enjoy the amusement park if you'd like. |
| 20:44 | She is not. She left about fifteen minutes ago. | |
| 20:45 | DisneyDave | We will upgrade to 3.12 soon |
| 20:45 | Once we get this aligned | |
| 20:45 | Nicole left? Must have been something I said? | |
| 20:45 | jcamins | Hehe. Five minutes before you arrived. |
| 20:46 | DisneyDave | I'll use better deoderant tomorrow |
| 20:47 | . | |
| 20:50 | jcamins | bag: how many speakers are needed for the talk on testing? |
| 20:55 | DisneyDave | Thanks again. We are doing the schema migration. Seems to be taking a while. Is there any time estimate? I thought itd be fast. |
| 20:56 | drojf | "An overview of how we use telephone notifications with Koha." we have telephone notifications? like… autodialing? |
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| 20:56 | jcamins | DisneyDave: it'll take a while. |
| 20:56 | That's why I suggested the ride in the amusement park portion of WDW. | |
| 20:56 | DisneyDave | Thanks jcamins. come visit. Nicole did. |
| 20:56 | jcamins | Last time I upgraded from 3.6.x to 3.10.x it took ~3 hrs to run. |
| 20:56 | drojf | bug 9082 does not look like we have that |
| 20:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9082 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , option to notify librarians that i prefer phone calls |
| 20:56 | jcamins | drojf: we have Itiva. |
| 20:57 | Which is... sort of like a phone call. | |
| 20:59 | DisneyDave: we'd love to! | |
| 20:59 | drojf | jcamins: interesting, i did not know that. i don't think i ever heard of itiva |
| 21:00 | tcohen | bug 4246 |
| 21:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4246 enhancement, P4, ---, koha.sekjal, RESOLVED FIXED, Koha support for Itiva Talking Tech phone notification service |
| 21:01 | drojf | tcohen: yeah i am reading that :) |
| 21:06 | "We’ve re-written the book on how libraries and patrons communicate." i wonder in what year they came up with that :D | |
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| 21:06 | drojf | from the itiva website |
| 21:07 | jcamins | drojf: well, they offer a pulse dialing service... |
| 21:07 | (not really) | |
| 21:10 | cait | drojf: it still seems to be popular in US |
| 21:10 | DisneyDave | After the schema migration, do I need to reindex Zebra? |
| 21:11 | cait | drojf: but I can't imagine a library trying to do that in Germany :) |
| 21:11 | jcamins | DisneyDave: you should not, no. |
| 21:11 | drojf | cait: probably because they don't have the datenautobahn in the us :D |
| 21:12 | tcohen | do u have a big DB DisneyDave ? |
| 21:14 | DisneyDave | Thanks Jcamins |
| 21:15 | Tcohen, not sure but the SQL dump was 2.3 GB | |
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| 22:07 | tcohen | hmm, is it ok that there are no bugs marked as "3.12"? |
| 22:07 | or maybe my search is wrong: | |
| 22:07 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]20Signoff&bug_sta | |
| 22:07 | tus=Signed%20Off&bug_status=Passed%20QA&bug_status=Pushed%20for%20QA&bug_status=Failed%20QA&bug_status=Patch%20doesn%27t%20apply&version=3.12&f5=short_desc&f6=status_whiteboard&v2=authorities&f7=content&product=Koha | |
| 22:07 | rangi | they dont often get marked as a version, unless the bug isnt on master as well |
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| 22:49 | tcohen | do u have a saved searhc I could follow rangi? |
| 22:50 | rangi | for? |
| 22:51 | tcohen | oh, I want to get a list of the bugs I should pay attention for the 3.12.x maintenance task |
| 22:52 | rangi | oh |
| 22:52 | i just watch the master commit log | |
| 22:53 | tcohen | ok |
| 22:53 | rangi | and then have filters to highlight any mail from the bugs list that mentions 3.10.x etc |
| 22:53 | tcohen | I pushed some trivial patches already, have u seen? |
| 22:53 | rangi | yep well done :) |
| 22:53 | i find if you keep up with master its not too bad | |
| 22:54 | tcohen | yes, and 3.12-specific bugs will arise once master has diverged a bit more I guess |
| 22:54 | rangi | *nod* |
| 22:55 | its quite rare | |
| 22:55 | normally what happnes the more it diverges, is patches need to be rebased | |
| 22:55 | but usually the bugs occur in both | |
| 22:55 | or only in master | |
| 22:56 | its only deprecated features, that are no longer in master, that might have a bug in older versions | |
| 22:56 | tcohen | bug 9508is marked as enh |
| 22:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9508 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , the dateformat variable is not standardized in template files |
| 22:56 | rangi | id make that a minor |
| 22:56 | but its your call :) | |
| 22:56 | tcohen | minor priority |
| 22:56 | rangi | not really an enhancement more a bug fix imho |
| 22:57 | tcohen | but, it could be a basis for divergence imo, at least the second patch |
| 22:57 | rangi | true |
| 23:02 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 8215: (followup) avoid spurious warning in Apache log <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6c21b1f60421a316f> / bug 8215: DBRev 3.13.00.001 for course reserves <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e788b2d53c27e0b59> / bug 8215: (followup) remove extraneous underscore in template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p= |
| 23:03 | gmcharlt | tcohen: now *this* patch series, you don't get to cherry-pick :) |
| 23:04 | tcohen | ooook gmcharlt |
| 23:04 | wahanui | it has been said that gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology. |
| 23:08 | tcohen | do we have tests for XML validity? |
| 23:09 | rangi | in xt |
| 23:10 | hmm perhaps not | |
| 23:10 | xmllint is a good test | |
| 23:10 | thats how i test kohadocs | |
| 23:10 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1189 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 23:10 | gmcharlt | xmllint --noout foo.xml |
| 23:11 | tcohen | we dont |
| 23:11 | i mean, only for debian/docs | |
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| 23:11 | tcohen | should we generalize that script? |
| 23:12 | instead of debian/docs smth like | |
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| 23:12 | tcohen | $(find . -name '*.xml') |
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| 23:21 | bag | @later tell melia HI |
| 23:21 | huginn | bag: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:21 | wahanui | I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS |
| 23:22 | pianohacker | wahanui: forget succeeded |
| 23:22 | wahanui | pianohacker, I didn't have anything matching succeeded |
| 23:22 | pianohacker | huh |
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| 23:23 | melia | @later tell oleonard hey there's a new patch for bug 2720, if you have a chance to test that one. hopefully it addresses the problems in your testing feedback. thank you!! :) |
| 23:23 | huginn | melia: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:23 | wahanui | I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS |
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| 23:24 | dcook | morning #koha |
| 23:24 | pianohacker | morning |
| 23:26 | dcook | Don't know if we've met before, pianohacker, but glad to hear you'll be at ByWater for the summer :) |
| 23:32 | pianohacker | hi dcook! |
| 23:33 | tcohen | how can I create a page on the wiki? |
| 23:33 | rangi | do a search for the page you want to create |
| 23:34 | or edit a page making a link to the page you want to create | |
| 23:43 | dcook | Hmm preliminary schedule up, eh? |
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