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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1182: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1182/ |
| 00:00 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Update release notes for final 3.12.00 release | |
| 00:00 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Increment version for 3.12.0 release | |
| 00:01 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 00:01 | jcamins | ... seriously? |
| 00:01 | I HATE YOU, JENKINS!!!!! | |
| 00:01 | * wizzyrea | institutes duck and cover |
| 00:02 | dcook | @wunder new york city |
| 00:02 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Murray Hill, New York, New York is 14.2°C (8:02 PM EDT on May 19, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
| 00:02 | rangi | hehe |
| 00:02 | its just the db version | |
| 00:02 | ill fix | |
| 00:02 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
| 00:02 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (11:00 AM NZST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 00:02 | wizzyrea | oo, not bad |
| 00:02 | tcohen | r u sure jcamins? i can leave it to you a few days :-P |
| 00:03 | rangi | !jenkins build koha_master now |
| 00:03 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now |
| 00:05 | jcamins | rangi: I know. Still, what an annoying message to get five minutes later. |
| 00:05 | tcohen: yeah, I'm sure. | |
| 00:05 | Thanks for the offer, though. :P | |
| 00:05 | rangi | yep |
| 00:07 | jcamins | I would like something frameable signed by as many of the developers who contributed to Koha 3.12 as possible. |
| 00:07 | wizzyrea | hm. |
| 00:09 | rangi | my library cards wall? |
| 00:09 | i could take a photo | |
| 00:09 | put it A3 size with the koha logo in it | |
| 00:09 | and bring it to kohacon | |
| 00:09 | jcamins | rangi: that'd be perfect! |
| 00:09 | rangi | then we could get ppl to sing it |
| 00:09 | sign too | |
| 00:09 | jcamins | lol |
| 00:09 | * wizzyrea | will sing at it |
| 00:09 | jcamins | That'd be an interesting song. |
| 00:09 | * cjh | isnt very good at singing |
| 00:10 | rangi | heh |
| 00:10 | there is an open source library systems song | |
| 00:10 | wizzyrea | ... |
| 00:10 | srs? | |
| 00:10 | wahanui | srs are not a good registrar :) |
| 00:10 | rangi | yeah |
| 00:10 | wizzyrea | forget srs |
| 00:10 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot srs |
| 00:10 | wizzyrea | link or it didn't happen |
| 00:10 | :P | |
| 00:11 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSHBzd9ftDE |
| 00:11 | librarians | |
| 00:11 | wahanui | librarians are crazy |
| 00:11 | rangi | you called it buddy |
| 00:11 | cjh | hahaha that is awesome! |
| 00:12 | wahanui: librarian song is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSHBzd9ftDE | |
| 00:12 | wahanui | OK, cjh. |
| 00:12 | rangi | i bet sirsi dont have a song |
| 00:13 | it was part of the library tour thingy | |
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| 00:19 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1183 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1181 7 hr 0 min ago) |
| 00:23 | drojf1 joined #koha | |
| 00:29 | wizzyrea | ohhh yeahhh |
| 00:34 | ibeardslee | .. pity about the paper size though ;) |
| 00:44 | .. which is not to detract from a nicely formatted set of release notes. | |
| 00:45 | * ibeardslee | goes to sit in the corner and tries to stop being picky. |
| 00:45 | wizzyrea | bad beardslee, bad. |
| 00:46 | jcamins | ibeardslee: I thought about doing an A4 version. |
| 00:46 | They I decided I didn't care. | |
| 00:48 | I use wide margins so it should print just fine. | |
| 00:49 | And if not... | |
| 00:49 | deal. | |
| 00:55 | BobB_ joined #koha | |
| 01:05 | * jcamins | capers about merrily. |
| 01:08 | dcook | Someone's happy ;) |
| 01:09 | jcamins | dcook: oh yes. |
| 01:09 | dcook | Aww, just read the dedication :) |
| 01:10 | I'm sure Shari will be happy to get you back as well :D | |
| 01:10 | jcamins | Oh yes. |
| 01:10 | Very pleased indeed. | |
| 01:11 | I called her to let her know I'd done the release and was free. | |
| 01:12 | dcook | \o/ |
| 01:20 | jcamins | eythian: I tagged 3.12.0, BTW, so you can package at your leisure. :) |
| 01:26 | BobB_ | congratulations jcamins - very nice release notes too. |
| 01:27 | jcamins | BobB_: thanks. |
| 01:27 | BobB_ | great job |
| 01:30 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 01:30 | Project Koha_master build #1183: FIXED in 1 hr 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1183/ | |
| 01:44 | jcamins | 436? I thought I updated it. |
| 01:44 | Oh well. | |
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| 02:10 | rangi | http://vietnamlib.net/tin-tuc/[…]n-co-the-tham-gia |
| 02:10 | how fast! | |
| 02:11 | ah no, thats the beta :) | |
| 02:11 | still cool tho | |
| 02:11 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 03:07 | BobB joined #koha | |
| 03:47 | * jcamins | finishes his tidying frenzy and heads to bed. |
| 03:47 | jcamins | Good night, #koha. |
| 03:47 | Enjoy the slog to 3.14. | |
| 03:47 | dcook | Night, jcamins |
| 03:47 | Well done, again! | |
| 03:48 | jcamins | Thanks. :) |
| 03:49 | wizzyrea | slog. |
| 03:49 | jcamins | Blearily. |
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| 05:43 | cjh | come on 3.14.15 ! |
| 05:50 | dcook | hehe |
| 06:34 | cait joined #koha | |
| 06:47 | magnuse | woohoo! |
| 06:47 | jcamins++ | |
| 06:48 | @confetti | |
| 06:48 | huginn | magnuse: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 06:48 | magnuse | confetti |
| 06:48 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 06:48 | magnuse | more confetti |
| 06:48 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' |
| 06:48 | cait | jcamins++ |
| 06:49 | confetti... :) | |
| 06:49 | magnuse | and hiya cait |
| 06:49 | cait | hi magnuse |
| 06:49 | * magnuse | feels like sending shari something nice |
| 06:50 | paul_p joined #koha | |
| 06:52 | magnuse | shame on me for having more patches than signoffs in 3.12 |
| 06:52 | cait | tsk |
| 06:52 | ;) | |
| 06:52 | jared beat me in sign offs... not sure how he did that!! :P | |
| 06:53 | magnuse | probably a side effect of him being rm? |
| 06:54 | cait | i woudl think so :) |
| 06:55 | dcook | magnuse: Agreed on both counts ;) |
| 06:55 | cait | hi dcook :) |
| 06:56 | magnuse | g'day dcook |
| 06:56 | dcook | howdy cait and magnuse :) |
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| 07:00 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
| 07:01 | magnuse = isn't it today the date for the RFP we spoke of last week ? Do you still want to answer it ? | |
| 07:01 | cait | hi paul_p |
| 07:01 | paul_p | @wunder konstanz |
| 07:01 | huginn | paul_p: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.1°C (9:00 AM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:01 | paul_p | @wunder marseille |
| 07:02 | huginn | paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 13.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:02 | lds joined #koha | |
| 07:02 | paul_p | we had an awful saturday. so many water/rain ! really astonishing ! |
| 07:02 | fortunatly, we had a sunny sunday. | |
| 07:04 | cait | the other way around here |
| 07:04 | sunny saturday, half of sunday with lots of rain, then sunny again | |
| 07:06 | * dcook | went for a walk in a t-shirt yesterday even though it is supposed to be autumn/winter... |
| 07:08 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:08 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:11 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:11 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 11.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:12 | magnuse | moahaha ;-) |
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| 07:17 | gaetan_B joined #koha | |
| 07:17 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:18 | cait | hi gaetan_B |
| 07:18 | :) | |
| 07:19 | gaetan_B | hey cait :) wie geht's ? |
| 07:22 | cait | gut :) |
| 07:22 | heute ist ein feiertag :) | |
| 07:23 | christophe_c joined #koha | |
| 07:23 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
| 07:26 | reiveune joined #koha | |
| 07:26 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:26 | wahanui | privet, reiveune |
| 07:29 | wilfrid joined #koha | |
| 07:30 | wilfrid | Hi anybody / selut tout le monde |
| 07:30 | cait | hi wilfrid |
| 07:35 | sophie_m joined #koha | |
| 07:39 | mtj | hi #koha |
| 07:39 | some nice icons -> http://www.wpzoom.com/wpzoom/n[…]et-154-free-icons | |
| 07:55 | dcook | night #koha |
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| 08:19 | magnuse | Joubu++ for a quick patch for bug 10283 |
| 08:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10283 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Hide "many items" on second tab when using OpacSeparateHoldings |
| 08:21 | Joubu | magnuse: :) you're welcome |
| 08:33 | arihant joined #koha | |
| 08:34 | arihant | Any suggestions on this one http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ES-td5755125.html |
| 08:47 | msaby joined #koha | |
| 08:48 | msaby | hello #koha |
| 08:48 | 1st steps in IRC | |
| 08:48 | mtj | arihant, i dont have any suggestions for that problem :/ |
| 08:48 | msaby | don't know how it works... |
| 08:48 | mtj | hi arihant, msaby |
| 08:48 | arihant | hi |
| 08:49 | msaby | I wanted to thank everybody for the work done on 3.12 |
| 08:49 | especially Jared! | |
| 08:50 | happy the bug for opac display in french could be corrected. I discovered it very late :( | |
| 08:51 | mtj | yes, he has done a great job! :) |
| 09:00 | ...in other release news, koha-win32 is now fixed and works well -> http://lists.koha-community.or[…]April/thread.html | |
| 09:05 | magnuse | hiya msaby and welcome to #koha :-) |
| 09:05 | * cait | waves to msaby |
| 09:08 | msaby | hi cait and magnuse! |
| 09:11 | is there a howto for IRC somewhere? | |
| 09:14 | cait | hm not really, i htink people use different clients |
| 09:15 | imean to connect | |
| 09:15 | and then you just start talking :) | |
| 09:16 | and there are things like @wunder Konstanz | |
| 09:16 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 09:16 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 12.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:16 | cait | @wunder Marseille |
| 09:16 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 16.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:17 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 09:17 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:17 | magnuse | w00t! |
| 09:18 | irc regulars? | |
| 09:18 | wahanui | somebody said irc regulars was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
| 09:18 | magnuse | msaby: that link tells you who some of the nicks are :-) |
| 09:24 | * mtj | waves to magnuse and cait |
| 09:24 | msaby | @wunder Rennes |
| 09:24 | huginn | msaby: The current temperature in Rennes, France is 13.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:24 | msaby | yes! |
| 09:25 | brrr 13 °C. I won't open my window ;-) | |
| 09:25 | mtj | msaby, its great to finally see you on #koha :D |
| 09:25 | cait | we don#t bite... as long as there are enough cookies |
| 09:25 | msaby | and bug XXXX to get the link of a bug? |
| 09:25 | cait | yes |
| 09:25 | magnuse | yup |
| 09:26 | mtj | yep, thats it ^^ |
| 09:26 | bug 1234 | |
| 09:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1234 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, CLOSED WORKSFORME, Parameter: Bar Code # Prefix for book / patron searching |
| 09:26 | msaby | for the "waves to...", you type it, or there is a trick? |
| 09:27 | cait | if you start something with /me |
| 09:27 | * cait | does something |
| 09:27 | * magnuse | does something else |
| 09:30 | * msaby | |
| 09:30 | is typing | |
| 09:30 | msaby | héhé |
| 09:30 | magnuse | yay! |
| 09:31 | msaby | do you know if I can import direclty MARCXML records in Koha? |
| 09:31 | magnuse | i think yo have to do it on the command line? |
| 09:32 | with the misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl script | |
| 09:33 | msaby | i mean in staff interface |
| 09:33 | I thought i was possible | |
| 09:33 | but does not seem to work | |
| 09:34 | hé, what's that bot? | |
| 09:34 | magnuse | no, i *think* you can only do iso2709 in the staff interface |
| 09:35 | mtj | msaby, it picks up tweets with the #KohaILS hashtag |
| 09:35 | magnuse | tweetbot listens to twitter, and reports any tweets with the #kohails tag |
| 09:35 | mtj | what magnuse said :) |
| 09:35 | msaby | yep, understood! |
| 09:36 | msaby joined #koha | |
| 09:36 | magnuse | msaby: and you will also see jenkins reporting here when new patches have been pushed and are being tested |
| 09:38 | msaby | magnus : well, it could be a usefull enh |
| 09:40 | magnus : not a lot of librarians have access to command line ;-) | |
| 09:44 | rangi | wow that guy is pretty annoying |
| 09:44 | evening all | |
| 09:48 | magnuse | hiya rangi |
| 09:51 | cait | rangi: which guy? |
| 09:54 | rangi | our live dvd manager |
| 09:57 | * magnuse | wonders if Amazon SNS could be used for sending text messages from koha |
| 10:12 | rangi | msaby++ |
| 10:13 | pootle 2.5.0 is out | |
| 10:13 | we are running 2.1.6 | |
| 10:13 | http://docs.translatehouse.org[…]/en/stable-2.5.0/ | |
| 10:13 | msaby | ho ho |
| 10:14 | new features in Pootle 2.5? | |
| 10:14 | rangi | http://docs.translatehouse.org[…]leases/2.5.0.html |
| 10:14 | yep | |
| 10:14 | lots of good UI fixes | |
| 10:14 | things like alerts too | |
| 10:15 | http://docs.translatehouse.org[…].0/changelog.html | |
| 10:15 | cait | it looks really nice from what I see |
| 10:15 | maybe could make the translators bit happier? :) | |
| 10:15 | rangi | yeah |
| 10:16 | i like the timeline | |
| 10:16 | and the memory | |
| 10:16 | wahanui | the memory is fine |
| 10:17 | rangi | http://pootle.locamotion.org/ |
| 10:17 | fast | |
| 10:18 | cait | keyboard shortcuts too |
| 10:18 | rangi | yep |
| 10:18 | worth trying at least | |
| 10:20 | magnuse | who's the new tm again? |
| 10:21 | msaby | i just send a message to translate list |
| 10:21 | aboot pootle | |
| 10:21 | cait | bgkriegel |
| 10:21 | wahanui | i heard bgkriegel was on a signoff spree |
| 10:21 | cait | i thik we are also not using all possible features |
| 10:21 | i see that our admin interface suggests adding lucene or something | |
| 10:21 | msaby | missing feature for me : real advanced search, phrase search, exact search |
| 10:21 | cait | not sure if that would impact speed tho |
| 10:22 | msaby | that's not fixed in 2.5.0 version. maybe in next? |
| 10:24 | rangi | log an issue for it, or search to see if there is one already |
| 10:24 | they cant read our minds :) | |
| 10:28 | cait | yeah :) |
| 10:28 | that's a really good idea | |
| 10:29 | rangi | but id much prefer we interact with the pootle devs, its an active free software project |
| 10:29 | and free software is ethically always better than free of cost proprietary software | |
| 10:32 | cait | could imagine thy are happy about constructive feedback and maybe some helping hands |
| 10:33 | rangi | yep |
| 10:33 | ive emailed the list in the past, they are helpful | |
| 10:45 | * paul_p | head to lunch |
| 10:52 | msaby | bye |
| 11:01 | * rangi | heads off to sleep |
| 11:03 | magnuse | sleep tight rangi - soon you will be a free man too ;-) |
| 11:04 | jcamins | Good night. |
| 11:04 | wahanui | I watch you sleep. |
| 11:04 | jcamins | magnuse: he went and volunteered to be QAA for 3.14, though... |
| 11:05 | cait | creepy wahanui |
| 11:08 | magnuse | jcamins: true, but i imagine that to be slightly less stressfull than being rmaint. i moght be wrong, though! |
| 11:09 | and good morning jcamins - hope you had a refreshing night :-) | |
| 11:10 | cait | magnuse: you have no idea *muahaha* |
| 11:11 | magnuse | oh, i forgot who the qam is - yeah being qaa must be hell ;-) |
| 11:13 | cait | ;) |
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| 11:45 | magnuse | what are the single sign-on options in 3.12? cas, ldap, persona? |
| 11:46 | jcamins | PKI? |
| 11:46 | magnuse | ah yes |
| 11:47 | i think persona is pretty neat, though. if koha has your email you can create a persona account and use that to log in to koha, without needing a separate password in koha | |
| 11:50 | (if i have understood it correctly) | |
| 11:50 | jcamins | Exactly. |
| 11:50 | Much easier to configure than PKI, too. | |
| 11:51 | * magnuse | would think so |
| 11:51 | paul_p | back from lunch |
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| 11:59 | * magnuse | needs some fresh air |
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| 12:20 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:21 | Congratulations jcamins | |
| 12:21 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 12:21 | oleonard | jcamins++ |
| 12:24 | * oleonard | hopes jcamins can adjust to civilian life |
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| 12:24 | MathieuTCZ | Hello everyone... I am having a problem with the LabelCreator. As far as I can tell my particular problem is not in bugzilla... |
| 12:25 | It would appear that some of my biblios, though captured in the items table are not appear in itemsbad. This is throwing an error with the perl script which looks in that table for the record. | |
| 12:26 | I can issue the books without a problem though | |
| 12:26 | jcamins | Are you logged in as the database user? |
| 12:26 | MathieuTCZ | logged into Koha as superlibrarian (not kohauser) |
| 12:26 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 12:26 | I'm out of ideas then, I fear. :( | |
| 12:27 | MathieuTCZ | here is the error: [Mon May 20 11:34:18 2013] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Mon May 20 11:34:18 2013] label-edit-batch.pl: Database returned the following error on attempted INSERT: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha`.`creator_batches`, CONSTRAINT `creator_batches_ibfk_3` FOREIGN KEY (`item_number`) REFERENCES `itemsbad` (`itemnumber`) ON DELETE CASCADE) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Creators/Batch.pm line 72., referer: h |
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| 12:27 | jcamins | Wait... |
| 12:27 | there's no such table as itemsbad. | |
| 12:27 | I suspect the reason no one's reported the problem on Bugzilla is that at some point someone altered the names of tables in your installation. | |
| 12:28 | MathieuTCZ | I have traced the problem, but I am wondering what I need to do to get my biblios into the itemsbad table in the koha database... I can add items to label batches if they appear there, but if a book ( or other resource) is not yet recorded in itemsbad, batch.pm gives an error. |
| 12:28 | jcamins | MathieuTCZ: there's no such table in regular Koha, so I have no idea. |
| 12:28 | MathieuTCZ | no, itemsbad is there. |
| 12:29 | this table records, among other things, accession dates | |
| 12:29 | oleonard | itemsbad may be there MathieuTCZ, but it's not a table that is used by Koha. What version are you using? |
| 12:29 | pastebot | "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Tables in a working Koha installation." (170 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/19 |
| 12:30 | jcamins | MathieuTCZ: ^^ there's a list of tables that I have in my installation. |
| 12:30 | I would speculate that the problem is the foreign key, and that you need to change it to point to the items table. | |
| 12:30 | MathieuTCZ | hmmm... so should I delete (after having made a backup) itemsbad? |
| 12:30 | jcamins | However, that's just speculation. |
| 12:31 | You can try it. | |
| 12:31 | I can't really offer advice because I'm not sure what changes were made to your installation. | |
| 12:31 | MathieuTCZ | here is my server info |
| 12:31 | Koha version:3.10.02.000 OS version ('uname -a'):Linux tcz 2.6.32-45-server #101-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 3 15:54:27 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux Perl interpreter:/usr/bin/perl Perl version:5.010001 Perl @INC: /usr/share/koha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl . MySQL version:mysql Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.1.66, for debi | |
| 12:32 | jcamins | The fact that table exists means that someone manually made changes to your database, and I have no idea what they might be. |
| 12:32 | arihant | I am looking to edit the file that koha uses to generate email...Where can i find this file |
| 12:33 | jcamins | arihant: Tools -> Notices or something like that. |
| 12:33 | And then Koha just uses sendmail to send messages. | |
| 12:33 | arihant | i am interested in changing the headers of the email |
| 12:33 | jcamins | I don't know how to do that, sorry. |
| 12:34 | arihant | ok thank you |
| 12:34 | oleonard | arihant: I'm curious: Why? |
| 12:35 | arihant | i am getting a header charset error when trying to send emails via Amazon SES |
| 12:35 | http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ES-td5755125.html | |
| 12:36 | any ideas on how to solve this? | |
| 12:36 | oleonard | Not me, sorry |
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| 12:51 | * tcohen | is in fear after this early release jcamins |
| 12:51 | jcamins | tcohen: hehe. |
| 12:52 | tcohen | jcamins++ # 3.12 is awesome |
| 12:54 | jcamins | Thanks. :) |
| 12:55 | oleonard | 3.12 lowered my cholesterol! |
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| 12:58 | cait | medical uses of koha releases? |
| 12:58 | have we investigated that yet? ;) | |
| 12:59 | hi oleonard :) | |
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| 13:34 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 5 June 2013 at 18:00 UTC | |
| 13:34 | jcamins | Ohhhh. |
| 13:35 | oleonard: I have something that you should fix in the Bootstrappy OPAC: there should be a div that contains members and the user header but not #opac-main-search. | |
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| 13:36 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 5 June 2013 at 18:00 UTC | |
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| 13:37 | oleonard | jcamins: At this point in my work members and opacheader are in separate divs but not contained by any common div |
| 13:37 | jcamins | The problem I have encountered is that changing the background above the search bar is not fun. |
| 13:38 | I figured it out, but it wasn't fun. | |
| 13:38 | And that seems a pretty normal thing to do. | |
| 13:38 | oleonard | Hm, I don't remember that being difficult, but it's been a while. |
| 13:39 | jcamins | oleonard: the problem is the margins get weird. |
| 13:39 | oleonard | Yeah I remember that. |
| 13:39 | jcamins | So you end up giving your custom elements negative margins because if you change #header-wrapper, the search bar gets screwed up. |
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| 13:46 | jcamins | Okay... I have determined that using a responsive framework to match a non-responsive site's styling is probably not such a good idea. |
| 13:47 | magnuse | heh |
| 13:49 | jcamins | oleonard: we should use a <ul> for #moresearches. |
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| 13:50 | oleonard | Sounds good to me. |
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| 13:57 | wilfrid | Mathieu, I see you too, but I'm connect with irssi :-) |
| 14:00 | * cait | thinks it's time to tidy up bugzilla a bit? :) |
| 14:00 | sees batch changes coming | |
| 14:00 | magnuse | yay |
| 14:00 | jcamins | By all means. Please, help yourself. :) |
| 14:01 | cait | i will need rangi for that |
| 14:01 | to turn of email | |
| 14:01 | maybe tonight | |
| 14:02 | jcamins | :) |
| 14:02 | MathieuTCZ | jcamins, that seems to have fixed my problem... I am not sure how itemsbad got in there, but I managed to delete the table after removing all offending fck's |
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| 14:16 | jcamins | Hey, I can start fixing the bugs that _I_ want to fix now. |
| 14:16 | Nice, eh? | |
| 14:16 | gmcharlt | jcamins++ # release |
| 14:18 | cait | hi gmcharlt :) |
| 14:18 | gmcharlt | hi cait |
| 14:18 | cait | welcome to your release 3.14 :) |
| 14:18 | * gmcharlt | has done the obvious ... and set the hostname of my Raspberry Pi to 'kohapi' |
| 14:19 | cait | yay! |
| 14:19 | druthb | lol |
| 14:23 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 14:24 | magnuse | gmcharlt: does it run koha? |
| 14:25 | oleonard | jcamins: Did you give gmcharlt the robe and sceptre? |
| 14:25 | jcamins | Oh, right. |
| 14:25 | * jcamins | chucks the robe and sceptre at gmcharlt. |
| 14:25 | gmcharlt | magnuse: heh - at the moment, it's running OpenSRF and I'm planning on sticking Evergreen on it just to see how well it does |
| 14:25 | jcamins | gmcharlt: seriously? |
| 14:25 | Are you nuts? | |
| 14:26 | I was on #evergreen begging for help finding services to disable with a 1GB VM! | |
| 14:26 | gmcharlt | jcamins: yes, but what does that have to do with anything? :) |
| 14:26 | to be clear, I'm not planning on running the database on it | |
| 14:26 | rambutan | EG on one PI, the indexer on another PI, the db on another pi....outta work |
| 14:26 | gmcharlt | exactly |
| 14:26 | rambutan | reports on another pi |
| 14:26 | jcamins | gmcharlt: ah, so Postgres will be on a real computer? |
| 14:27 | druthb | If I can try to get Koha breathing on an Asus EeePC 900A, with 2 GB of RAM and a 4 GB SSHD… hey, gmcharlt can doo eeet! |
| 14:27 | jcamins | druthb: that's a whole lot more than 512MB of RAM. |
| 14:27 | druthb | (I succeeded. Sort of. It ran, and would search, even and properly return hits from the four (!) db records I could put in there. |
| 14:27 | Beastly slow. | |
| 14:28 | Dyrcona | gmcharlt is mad, don't you know.... :) |
| 14:28 | magnuse | druthb: if it works it works :-) |
| 14:28 | druthb | oh, totally, Dyrcona. Anyone who takes RM more than once *must* be. |
| 14:28 | magnuse | so we have 6 months to figure out something fun to do with the raspberry pi + koha 3.14 combo :-) |
| 14:29 | druthb: or they have a short memory... | |
| 14:30 | Dyrcona | EG might work on a whole pile of Pi machines....We've wanted to try running multiple ejabberd servers for the communications, but I'm getting way off topic. |
| 14:33 | gmcharlt | Dyrcona: indeed -- as long as one never gets to the point where a single drone process intentionally needs more RAM than the Pi can provide, a bunch of them should serve |
| 14:34 | not sure about ever (realistically) using one for PostgreSQL for anything larger than Concerto, of course | |
| 14:35 | Dyrcona | Our ejabberd uses the most RAM on our server, then all of the apaches. |
| 14:35 | The drones don't typically go much over 150MB each. | |
| 14:36 | gmcharlt | which of course implies the exciting possiblity of max_children = 2 or something like that :) |
| 14:36 | Dyrcona | :) |
| 14:36 | jcamins | I look forward to seeing the attempt, but I am dubious. |
| 14:37 | Dyrcona | Koha in general has a smaller memory foot print than EG, no? <- Legitimate question. |
| 14:37 | jcamins | And by "dubious" I mean "absolutely convinced it's going to be too painful to even get OpenSRF to *start* much less use it." |
| 14:37 | Dyrcona: yes. | |
| 14:38 | Dyrcona | jcamins: That is what I thought, but I've never really verified it for myself. |
| 14:39 | Well, if you used a Jabber server with a smaller memory usage than ejabberd, it might work for a stand alone, very small public library. | |
| 14:39 | jcamins | Dyrcona: just so long as they only have four books... |
| 14:39 | Dyrcona | hah! |
| 14:39 | druthb | Two books. One patron. Good to go. |
| 14:46 | tcohen | does anyone what script puts koha-common.cron.d at /etc/cron.d/koha-common ? |
| 14:46 | s/anyone/anyone knows/ | |
| 14:47 | druthb | oleonard and others who monkey with browser-centricism…check this out: http://caniuse.com |
| 14:48 | oleonard | Yeah, checked that the other day when I couldn't remember who supported PNG alpha transparency |
| 14:50 | It should be known also as the Internet Explorer hall of shame. | |
| 14:50 | druthb | hehehe |
| 14:53 | tcohen | magnuse? |
| 14:53 | wahanui | i think magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 14:54 | oleonard | That response is timeless because magnuse will always be eating pizza |
| 14:55 | tcohen | heh |
| 14:55 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10186: Fix a typo in subscription-add.tt : 2/years should be 2/year <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]de7effd93334576fa> |
| 14:56 | tcohen | need some help with packages install scripts, anyone? |
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| 15:01 | cait | maybe drojf |
| 15:01 | wahanui | i think maybe drojf is more of a tinfoil hat person, but it sounds like that feature makes whoever runs that cover url caching server get paid by amazon? |
| 15:02 | tcohen | need some help with packages install scripts, drojf? |
| 15:03 | drojf | who? what? hi #koha :) |
| 15:03 | tcohen | i wanted to know how the cron.* files are installed by the debian scripts |
| 15:03 | i want to add a new file, but couldn't find an example | |
| 15:04 | (i thought koha-common.cron.d would be a good one) | |
| 15:04 | drojf | ah, you need help, not me. that is less confusing :) |
| 15:05 | tcohen | ^o) |
| 15:05 | jcamins | tcohen: I think that's just the way Debian packages work. |
| 15:05 | cron.d is automatically installed. | |
| 15:05 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10178 - Typos in plugins for 006 and 008 in MARC21 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ab799f1bf729172e5> / Bug 10191: Close 2 option tags in unimarc_field_115a.tt and unimarc_field_116.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]86bc5d3542bbd7123> |
| 15:07 | tcohen | thanks jcamins, figured it out: http://www.debian.org/doc/manu[…]her.en.html#initd |
| 15:07 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:08 | drojf | tcohen: what do you mean by "how" they are installed? how it works in the installation process or where they end up? |
| 15:08 | (or something else) | |
| 15:09 | tcohen | jcamins gave me the right answer, I wanted to add a file for packages, and couldn't figure how to make the package building script handle it |
| 15:10 | i was looking at the koha-common.cron.d file as an example, and couldn't find references to it in the whole codebase | |
| 15:11 | i want to propose a file /etc/default/koha-common for init scripts general configuration | |
| 15:11 | and looks like just naming it koha-common.default will make it :-D | |
| 15:12 | drojf | yeah i think it is just copied to the respective folder when oyu do that |
| 15:12 | *you | |
| 15:12 | tcohen | yes, there are several reserved file names that make it work as one would expect |
| 15:12 | .init .cron.daily, and so on) | |
| 15:13 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1184 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 15:16 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6399 - tooltip for tags that says 'separate by comma' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bf520e7a9e5cf2f37> |
| 15:16 | drojf | omg |
| 15:16 | how devastating would it be to convert a koha mysql database from latin1 to utf8? | |
| 15:16 | tcohen | wouldn't it break the MARC/binary records? |
| 15:16 | oleonard | Extinction of all life on Earth? |
| 15:18 | drojf | oleonard: if it is that big i think it's cool ;) |
| 15:18 | tcohen: not sure. they are broken now i guess | |
| 15:18 | that is how i found out about it | |
| 15:19 | i was testing a cataloging script and it did not work as it did on my vm. turns out i retrieve broken umlauts from mysql and the matching does not work | |
| 15:20 | tcohen | i guess longblob doesn't have an encoding set |
| 15:21 | so what i said doesn't apply | |
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| 15:57 | oleonard | Working on the responsive aspect of the layout now: http://www.screencast.com/t/hPeeMN7WtONm |
| 15:57 | Haven't touched the top menu yet. | |
| 15:57 | jcamins | oleonard: nice! |
| 15:57 | oleonard | Not sure about the search form... Wide submit button too weird? |
| 15:58 | jcamins | Hmm... that is a bit weird, yeah. |
| 15:58 | oleonard | CCSR rearranged the dropdowns so that they could come after the text input and be side by side. Looks nice in mobile but I'm not sure I like that as well at desktop width. |
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| 16:02 | oleonard | Twitter and Facebook both have full-width buttons on their login, Amazon and Google have a smaller left-aligned button. |
| 16:03 | Are there any competing ILSes which have good mobile sites? | |
| 16:03 | jcamins | oleonard: ummm... |
| 16:03 | * jcamins | dies of laughter |
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| 16:16 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9508 follow-up : replacing tabs by spaces <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d194a5c9c455c2f30> / Bug 9508: Standardize the dateformat value from C4::Auth <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b758fc009c7105633> |
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| 16:24 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1184: SUCCESS in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1184/ |
| 16:24 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 10186: Fix a typo in subscription-add.tt : 2/years should be 2/year | |
| 16:24 | * Mathieu Saby: Bug 10191: Close 2 option tags in unimarc_field_115a.tt and unimarc_field_116.tt | |
| 16:24 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10178 - Typos in plugins for 006 and 008 in MARC21 | |
| 16:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10186 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Typo in subscription-add.tt (years vs year) |
| 16:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10191 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , 2 option tags are not closed in unimarc_field_115a.tt and unimarc_field_116.tt | |
| 16:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10178 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Typos in plugins for 006 and 008 in MARC21 | |
| 16:26 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1185 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 16:33 | slef | oleonard: is this about you? ;-) https://m.facebook.com/groups/[…]475771493598&_rdr Giovedì 23 maggio, in diretta streaming su www.biblionext.it, conosceremo i "Modern Leonardos" |
| 16:36 | oleonard | Sadly I am no modern Leonardo, despite all the efforts of my art school teachers |
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| 16:50 | * gmcharlt | notes that the XSLT stylesheet selection code has several traps for the unwary |
| 16:52 | jcamins | Yes indeed. |
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| 17:05 | * magnuse | lols at the mention of "competing ILSes which have good mobile sites" |
| 17:06 | magnuse | oleonard: i am actually preparing a frozen pizza as we speak :-) |
| 17:06 | oleonard | Well you're safe from me magnuse, I'm not filing any bugs. |
| 17:08 | magnuse | :-) |
| 17:08 | pastebot | "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "for magnuse, related to 8947 -- do you like the candidate order?" (44 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/20 |
| 17:09 | * magnuse | looks |
| 17:09 | magnuse | bug 8947 |
| 17:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8947 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Search does not work with CCSR theme and language = nb-NO |
| 17:09 | gmcharlt | also relevant is bug 10292 |
| 17:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10292 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , XSLT files always taken from 'prog' theme for English |
| 17:11 | magnuse | gmcharlt: i never looked too closely at how 8947 was solved, but that order seems to make sense, yes |
| 17:12 | btw: was that "Project Koha_master build #1184" the first patches pushed by gmcharlt for 3.13? | |
| 17:12 | if so: woohoo! :-) | |
| 17:15 | * jcamins | wanders off for a shopping trip. |
| 17:16 | tcohen | jcamins, u still have commit rights for 3.12, right? because I need that you |
| 17:16 | .. kidding :-P | |
| 17:17 | * magnuse | thinks tcohen should be happy he is not in the ny area now ;-) |
| 17:18 | gmcharlt | magnuse: hmm, that reminds me... |
| 17:21 | magnuse | huh, what'd i do now? |
| 17:22 | jcamins | gmcharlt: speaking of commit rights -- and then I'm really going -- any chance you could put a sanitized version of the EG working repo gitolite/gitowhatever config somewhere? |
| 17:22 | gmcharlt | jcamins: yeah, I'll toss that on my stack |
| 17:23 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 17:24 | jcamins | gmcharlt: thanks! No great rush, I just keep on forgetting to ask you. |
| 17:25 | * druthb | blames gmcharlt. |
| 17:25 | gmcharlt | druthb: for what? :) |
| 17:25 | druthb | does it matter? You're a very responsible #koha person. Anything goes wrong, you're responsible. :P |
| 17:26 | * gmcharlt | staggers |
| 17:26 | is now squished flat | |
| 17:26 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: DBrev 3.13.00.000 -- onwards to Koha Pi! <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6c298082799061ef8> |
| 17:26 | druthb | Awr! |
| 17:26 | Anything goes right, you're to blame for that, too. | |
| 17:27 | * gmcharlt | sproings back, like a cartoon character after the anvil is removed |
| 17:27 | * druthb | takes her anvil, and tosses it around playfully |
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| 17:30 | druthb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]re=youtu.be&t=44s |
| 17:31 | magnuse | gmcharlt++ for 3.13 |
| 17:31 | @wunder boo | |
| 17:31 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0°C (7:20 PM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:31 | magnuse | w00t! |
| 17:31 | * magnuse | wanders off to devour that pizza |
| 17:32 | druthb | @wunder 77063 |
| 17:32 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 31.9°C (12:29 PM CDT on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
| 17:36 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1185: SUCCESS in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1185/ |
| 17:36 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 6399 - tooltip for tags that says 'separate by comma' | |
| 17:36 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9508: Standardize the dateformat value from C4::Auth | |
| 17:36 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 9508 follow-up : replacing tabs by spaces | |
| 17:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6399 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , tooltip for tags that says 'separate by comma' |
| 17:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9508 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , the dateformat variable is not standardized in template files | |
| 17:38 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1186 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 17:56 | bag | @seen cait |
| 17:56 | huginn | bag: cait was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 55 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <cait> maybe drojf |
| 17:58 | * tcohen | is in fear |
| 17:58 | druthb | @seen bag |
| 17:58 | huginn | druthb: bag was last seen in #koha 2 minutes and 20 seconds ago: <bag> @seen cait |
| 17:58 | druthb | :P |
| 18:01 | tcohen | ok, first push looks like worked |
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| 18:16 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2774 - Path to theme is hard-coded in many places <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]65c62dcabf4e1d892> |
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| 18:49 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1186: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1186/ |
| 18:49 | Galen Charlton: DBrev 3.13.00.000 -- onwards to Koha Pi! | |
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| 18:49 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #41 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 18:51 | oleonard | gmcharlt: why "in discussion" for Bug 2774 instead of putting it back to "New" ? |
| 18:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2774 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Path to theme is hard-coded in many places |
| 18:52 | gmcharlt | oleonard: mostly because I tend to consider 'in discussion' to be more of an 'in progress' status, but if you prefer new, feel free to change it |
| 18:52 | oleonard | I think of "in discussion" to be "we can't do anything with this bug because no one agrees on the proper solution" |
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| 18:55 | gmcharlt | fair enough |
| 18:56 | oleonard | And wow we have more in-discussion bugs than I thought. 103. |
| 19:00 | jcamins | tcohen++ |
| 19:07 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10251: Fix typos in Patron Permissions Help <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f544857a89a9cb245> |
| 19:07 | magnuse | wow 103 in discussion? that's crazy |
| 19:07 | and 140 needs signoff | |
| 19:07 | and 138 failed qa | |
| 19:08 | we got some work to do... | |
| 19:27 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10288 - Fix a tiny typo on "Pending offline circulation actions" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9d81dcef4e5adaddf> |
| 19:30 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #41: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/41/ |
| 19:30 | Mathieu Saby: Bug 10186: Fix a typo in subscription-add.tt : 2/years should be 2/year | |
| 19:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10186 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , Typo in subscription-add.tt (years vs year) |
| 19:30 | rangi | tcohen++ |
| 19:30 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1187 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1185 3 hr 4 min ago) |
| 19:30 | rangi | already pushing to 3.12.x |
| 19:33 | @later tell bgkriegel I wont be pushing any more things to 3.10.x before the 3.10.6 release so you might want to mark where its at so you can start in a day or 2, ill be doing the release tomorrow or the day after | |
| 19:33 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:34 | nengard | hey all - i'm looking for some report help - i need a report for items that haven't circulated - the one I have is getting no results so any ideas? |
| 19:35 | jcamins | Hey, you know what's nice? I no longer have to worry about jenkins! |
| 19:36 | magnuse | success! \o/ tcohen++ |
| 19:37 | jcamins: you're freeeee! | |
| 19:38 | rangi | magnuse: the needs signoff has been building up since ive stopped signing off |
| 19:38 | as im QAA for 3.14 | |
| 19:38 | anythign i sign off i cant qa | |
| 19:39 | * rangi | needs someone to sub in for him |
| 19:39 | bag | rangi if you sign off - let me know and I can QAA now :) |
| 19:39 | rangi | oh true |
| 19:39 | bag | or get pianohacker and khall to help out now :) |
| 19:39 | just let me know | |
| 19:39 | rangi | ill probably start again after 3.10.6 |
| 19:39 | bag | true that :D |
| 19:39 | rangi | i want to get it under 100, both queues |
| 19:39 | for the the whole release cycle | |
| 19:40 | that would be pretty sweet | |
| 19:40 | jcamins | I aim to sign off on approximately ten patches per month. |
| 19:40 | bag | that would be sweet |
| 19:40 | rangi | awesome jcamins |
| 19:40 | if everyone matched that | |
| 19:40 | 0 queue :) | |
| 19:40 | magnuse | yay :-) |
| 19:40 | rangi | i might add a new bit to the dashboard |
| 19:41 | monthly target | |
| 19:41 | speaking of which | |
| 19:41 | jcamins | I'd love something that enables people to set personal goals and track them... |
| 19:41 | magnuse | rangi: while you are in there, could you add the number for "in discussion"? |
| 19:41 | rangi | http://questhub.io/perl/explore/latest/tag/Koha |
| 19:42 | can do | |
| 19:42 | jcamins: ^^ | |
| 19:42 | that url does | |
| 19:42 | magnuse | that woul dbe neat |
| 19:42 | jcamins | Perfect! |
| 19:42 | Right... now I shall figure out what it does. | |
| 19:42 | rangi | :) |
| 19:43 | we could run our own | |
| 19:43 | https://github.com/berekuk/play-perl | |
| 19:43 | might be nicer | |
| 19:43 | goals.koha-community.org | |
| 19:43 | magnuse | yay! |
| 19:43 | rangi | its super easy to install with vagrant |
| 19:44 | magnuse | oh yeah? if it's so easy why don't you just do it? |
| 19:44 | * magnuse | is trying to trick rangi :-) |
| 19:44 | rangi | heh no more space on my linode |
| 19:45 | gimme a server running debian and i will :) | |
| 19:45 | * magnuse | googles and finds http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Chef_and_Vagrant |
| 19:45 | rangi | yep that was corsair__ |
| 19:46 | its pretty cool, needs updating, but worked when i tried it last | |
| 19:47 | magnuse | hm, i have plenty of space on my "misc" linode, but no time to look at it now |
| 19:50 | * rangi | goes to take the kids to school |
| 19:53 | jcamins | Alas, I should have made the illustrated release notes just a little bit longer. |
| 19:54 | magnuse | why? |
| 19:54 | jcamins | magnuse: you can't get a 14p booklet printed. |
| 19:54 | Well, not printed and bound, that is. | |
| 19:55 | magnuse | ah, 16 would have been better? |
| 19:55 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 19:55 | Much. | |
| 19:56 | So I'm trying to think of two more pages worth of content to add to the copy I have printed. | |
| 19:56 | magnuse | leave a couple pages for "your own notes" at the end |
| 19:56 | jcamins | Or, I suppose, bring it to KohaCon and get it signed by folks. |
| 19:56 | magnuse | ooh, cool idea! |
| 19:58 | jcamins | Ooh, or maybe a full-page visualization of Koha's development history. |
| 19:59 | magnuse | how would you do that? |
| 19:59 | jcamins | magnuse: I was thinking of the cluster thing rangi had in his history... do one for the date of the release of 3.12.0 |
| 20:00 | magnuse | or print the gource visualaization as a flip-book-movie |
| 20:00 | jcamins | lol |
| 20:01 | I only want to add two pages. | |
| 20:01 | magnuse | well, a couple thousand pages might be cool too? ;-) |
| 20:03 | jcamins | Possibly a little more than I want to spend on printing. |
| 20:05 | rangi | this one? |
| 20:05 | wahanui | it has been said that this one is cool as long as someone *wants* acknowledgement |
| 20:06 | rangi | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]-is-done-on-koha/ |
| 20:06 | jcamins | rangi: I was thinking of the one in your presentation showing the relationships. |
| 20:06 | rangi | oh right |
| 20:06 | yeah tidy that up | |
| 20:07 | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]-worth-of-merges/ is a fun one too | |
| 20:08 | oleonard | Bye everyone |
| 20:08 | rangi | cya oleonard |
| 20:08 | https://gitorious.org/chrisc_p[…]isc_presentations | |
| 20:08 | you can clone the repo if you want jcamins | |
| 20:08 | jcamins | Ooh, thanks! |
| 20:09 | rangi | https://gitorious.org/chrisc_p[…]ndex.html#release |
| 20:09 | or grab from there ) | |
| 20:09 | https://gitorious.org/chrisc_p[…]es/index.html#api <-- i like too | |
| 20:10 | based on a picture cait did | |
| 20:10 | jcamins | Ooh, I know what I want. |
| 20:10 | I want an organization chart that shows *everyone* who contributed. | |
| 20:10 | rangi | that slide was my answer to the 'platform' spiel |
| 20:10 | ohhh | |
| 20:10 | good idea | |
| 20:11 | that would totally be doable | |
| 20:11 | jcamins | Like, not just "Patch author" but "Chris Cormack," etc., etc. |
| 20:11 | rangi | but would take some time |
| 20:11 | *nod* | |
| 20:11 | jcamins | And a printed version of the release notes is of vital importance right this moment? ;) |
| 20:11 | rangi | how many authors in 3.12.0 ? |
| 20:11 | 40ish? | |
| 20:11 | jcamins | ... I don't remember. |
| 20:11 | Something like that. | |
| 20:12 | I'll run stats. | |
| 20:12 | rangi | yeah you could actually fit that i think |
| 20:12 | maybe have to do it landscape | |
| 20:12 | jcamins | Yeah, but that's okay. |
| 20:12 | rangi | and then ppl could sign their box at kohacon |
| 20:12 | :-) | |
| 20:12 | jcamins | And I'd be okay with staggering the names being staggered. |
| 20:12 | rangi | like a yearbook |
| 20:12 | heh | |
| 20:13 | jcamins | With one fewer "stagger*." |
| 20:13 | rangi | "most likely to go insane and volunteer for another release" |
| 20:13 | jcamins | lol |
| 20:13 | When I told Shari I'd released, she said "How long was that? Seven months? You know, you could be most of the way to a child by now, and then your parents would have a grandchild for all the suffering." | |
| 20:14 | rangi | ok now it is actually time for school |
| 20:14 | magnuse | lol |
| 20:14 | rangi | bb from work |
| 20:14 | jcamins | Bye. |
| 20:14 | magnuse | have fun rangi |
| 20:17 | jcamins | Oh, now I know why I haven't been running statistics recently. |
| 20:18 | I don't have gitdm. | |
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| 20:31 | msaby | hello #koha |
| 20:31 | bag | jcamins: WOW "When I told Shari I'd released, she said "How long was that? Seven months? You know, you could be most of the way to a child by now, and then your parents would have a grandchild for all the suffering." |
| 20:31 | I like Shari's play on the word released :P | |
| 20:32 | jcamins | bag: yep. That's why I dedicated 3.12 to the spouses. |
| 20:32 | bag | ahhh sweet :D |
| 20:35 | msaby | hi jcamins. I'm looking at bug 8519 (about zebra). not sure to understand the consequences for librairies. The commit message says the documentation will be updated later. Do you know if it was done? |
| 20:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup |
| 20:35 | jcamins | I don't believe it was, but there are no consequences for libraries that don't go out of their way to set it up. |
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| 20:41 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1187: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1187/ |
| 20:41 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 2774 - Path to theme is hard-coded in many places | |
| 20:41 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10251: Fix typos in Patron Permissions Help | |
| 20:41 | * Magnus Enger: Bug 10288 - Fix a tiny typo on "Pending offline circulation actions" | |
| 20:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2774 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Path to theme is hard-coded in many places |
| 20:41 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10251 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , typos in help/members/member-flags.tt | |
| 20:41 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10288 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Tiny typo on "Pending offline circulation actions" | |
| 20:41 | blahdeblah | Hi. I'm looking for info on importing records from another system (Emilda). http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]port_MARC_to_Koha says it's obsolete - where should i look for current info? |
| 20:42 | (BTW, I've already got a working 3.10.05-1 installation.) | |
| 20:42 | msaby | jcamins: thank you |
| 20:46 | jcamins | blahdeblah: I don't think we have any updated documentation aside from the manual. |
| 20:48 | blahdeblah | jcamins: So http://manual.koha-community.o[…]ls.html#stagemarc ? |
| 20:48 | jcamins | Oh, was the question just about the actual importing step? |
| 20:48 | Yes, stage MARC is probably your best bet. | |
| 20:49 | bulkmarcimport still exists, though, if you're importing a lot of records and don't want the added overhead. | |
| 20:49 | blahdeblah | jcamins: I have an Emilda system (which uses zebra), and i'm trying to work out how to bring in the whole database. |
| 20:50 | jcamins | blahdeblah: yeah, that's another issue... you'll have to convert the data into something that Koha can use. |
| 20:50 | blahdeblah | So just because it's MARC doesn't mean it will work? |
| 20:50 | jcamins | For just importing MARC, the only thing you'll have to worry about is the item records. |
| 20:51 | @marc 952 | |
| 20:51 | wahanui | The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
| 20:51 | huginn | jcamins: unknown tag 952 |
| 20:51 | gmcharlt | rangi: as near as I can make out, Jenkins did not seem to update the version stamp in its test DB |
| 20:51 | jcamins | That link outlines what data needs to go where in 952 (or 995 if you're a UNIMARC user) for Koha to understand the item record. |
| 20:51 | gmcharlt: yeah, it has to be done manually. | |
| 20:52 | blahdeblah: however, that leaves all your patrons, circulation records, etc. still in Koha. | |
| 20:52 | blahdeblah | I only really care about the bibliographic data |
| 20:53 | jcamins | Good. That's easy. You just have to export the MARC, modify the item information from Emilda into Koha's 952/995 fields, and import it using stage MARC records (my preference) or bulkmarcimport (not my preference). |
| 20:54 | blahdeblah | What is the difference between staging and importing? |
| 20:54 | jcamins | blahdeblah: staging puts the records in a reservoir, and from there you import them by clicking the import button. |
| 20:54 | blahdeblah | Do you have to click on every record? |
| 20:54 | jcamins | No. |
| 20:54 | You just click the import button once to import the batch. | |
| 20:54 | blahdeblah | OK |
| 20:55 | So it's sort of like a preview-before-import function? | |
| 20:55 | jcamins | I prefer that because it gives me a preview so I can confirm that my records look basically like I expected. |
| 20:55 | blahdeblah | heh |
| 20:55 | I take it a batch can be discarded as well? | |
| 20:55 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 20:55 | And once it's imported you click "Clean," and Koha cleans up after itself so that the batch isn't taking up space (just the records in their final home). | |
| 20:56 | blahdeblah | cool - thanks |
| 20:56 | So all i really need to work out is the 952/995 deal | |
| 20:56 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 20:56 | magnuse | is there still a limit on how many records you can stage/import? |
| 20:56 | jcamins | Are you using MARC21 or UNIMARC? |
| 20:56 | blahdeblah | No idea |
| 20:56 | jcamins | magnuse: not to my knowledge. I've done 200k. |
| 20:56 | magnuse | oh cool |
| 20:57 | jcamins | blahdeblah: if your file is too large to upload, there's a stage_file.pl script. |
| 20:57 | blahdeblah | It won't be too large |
| 20:57 | jcamins | blahdeblah: where are you located? |
| 20:57 | blahdeblah | It's my personal library - only about 1300 items |
| 20:57 | .au | |
| 20:57 | jcamins | Probably MARC21, then. |
| 20:58 | If the titles appear in field 245, it's MARC21. | |
| 20:58 | blahdeblah | That's what /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf seems to indicate |
| 20:58 | jcamins | The question is what format your data is in in Emilda. |
| 20:58 | Converting between MARC21 and UNIMARC is very difficult. | |
| 20:58 | blahdeblah | I'll see if i can work that out |
| 20:59 | magnuse | oops someone needs to do a little checkup on their webpage http://www.emilda.org/ |
| 20:59 | jcamins | Well, based on the screenshot on Sourceforge, it's MARC21. |
| 20:59 | magnuse: yeah, I noticed that. | |
| 21:00 | I see why you're migrating away... looks like abandonware. | |
| 21:01 | blahdeblah | It has been for quite some time |
| 21:02 | I just haven't had a chance to look at it for ages, and because the site isn't Internet-exposed, i haven't been too concerned about security. | |
| 21:04 | * magnuse | does the sensible thing and calls it a day - have fun #koha! |
| 21:04 | blahdeblah | jcamins: Since it Emilda already uses Zebra, is there a way i can just point Koha at the data and have it pull it in? |
| 21:04 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 21:04 | Zebra is used only for indexing. | |
| 21:05 | blahdeblah | ah |
| 21:05 | So the MARC data will be in the database somewhere? | |
| 21:06 | I got the impression from reading about Zebra that it was the master store of MARC data. | |
| 21:06 | jcamins | Right. |
| 21:06 | Really? | |
| 21:06 | wahanui | Really is off now |
| 21:06 | jcamins | Yikes! |
| 21:06 | Certainly it's not the master store for Koha, and I would hope it wasn't for Emilda either. | |
| 21:07 | blahdeblah | I'm no expert on this - and it's been a long time since i touched it |
| 21:07 | jcamins | I'd give even odds that you're remembering correctly. |
| 21:07 | Hopefully Emilda has some sort of export function. | |
| 21:08 | blahdeblah | It's all LAMP, so hopefully the worst it could be is that i'll have to do a custom mysql query. |
| 21:11 | * blahdeblah | heads to breakfast - thanks for the help, jcamins |
| 21:16 | jcamins | I have about a pound and a half of flour that doesn't fit in the bucket. |
| 21:17 | Guess I'd better bake something. | |
| 21:17 | What should I bake? | |
| 21:18 | rangi | gmcharlt: should be fixed now |
| 21:18 | gmcharlt | rangi: thanks |
| 21:18 | is there something that can be done to automate it? or alternatively, can I have access? | |
| 21:19 | rangi | ill automate it again, and yep you can ask biblibre for access that would be fine (it's their box) |
| 21:19 | i can give you jenkins admin access tho | |
| 21:19 | whats your username? | |
| 21:20 | jcamins | rangi: happy birthday! |
| 21:21 | rangi | thanks |
| 21:22 | gmcharlt | rangi: gmcharlt (and if you could do a password reset, that would be great) |
| 21:22 | rangi | will do |
| 21:25 | jcamins | Beer batter bread, I guess. |
| 21:25 | I have all these fermented dandelion things that I want to use up. | |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | O.o |
| 21:27 | jcamins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9v2S49sHeQ | |
| 21:28 | jcamins | wizzyrea: that's the tagin recipe? |
| 21:28 | *tagine | |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | ya |
| 21:28 | jcamins | Cool, thanks! |
| 21:29 | NateC | hey rangi |
| 21:29 | HAPPY BIRTHDAY DOOOD | |
| 21:29 | rangi | thanks NateC |
| 21:29 | NateC | :) |
| 21:32 | rangi | upgrading jenkins now |
| 21:33 | jcamins | Okay... what goes into my beer batter bread. |
| 21:33 | Well, fermented dandelion batter bread. | |
| 21:33 | rangi | thats what i do on my 40th, upgrade continious integration servers... it's all parties all the time! |
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| 21:35 | jcamins | http://www.myrecipes.com/recip[…]d-10000001141994/ <-- this one? |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | that looks pretty yum |
| 21:41 | rangi | http://blogs.perl.org/users/ki[…]s-management.html |
| 21:41 | ^^ useful | |
| 21:42 | talljoy | happy birthday rangi |
| 21:42 | rangi | http://perlmaven.com/how-to-ca[…]-warnings-in-perl <-- that too |
| 21:42 | thanks talljoy | |
| 22:02 | khall_away | happy bday rangi! |
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| 22:03 | blahdeblah | Hmmm.. jcamins: looks like in Emilda all biblio is indeed stored in Zebra - the book table is just a reference to the record id, and they access it via a yaz call |
| 22:06 | rangi | thanks khall_away |
| 22:11 | cait | happy birthday rangi! |
| 22:12 | rangi | thanks :) |
| 22:12 | bag | YAY happy birthday rangi |
| 22:12 | I love birthday parties! | |
| 22:13 | cait | who doesn't? :) |
| 22:16 | jcamins | blahdeblah: looks like you'll be using yaz to extract the data if there's no export option. |
| 22:16 | blahdeblah | It appears that everything's in raw MARC files |
| 22:17 | I was able to dump one with marcdump and it appeared sane | |
| 22:17 | (to my untrained eye) | |
| 22:17 | I'm going to try staging a record and see what happens | |
| 22:17 | jcamins | Oh, of course. |
| 22:19 | blahdeblah | That seemed to work sweetly |
| 22:19 | Can MARC files just be concatenated, or is there something i need to do to put everything in one file? | |
| 22:19 | jcamins | They can be concatenated. |
| 22:20 | * blahdeblah | rubs hands and has a shot at it |
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| 22:31 | blahdeblah | Well, that seemed to go OK |
| 22:31 | It imported 1335 records, and 12 items | |
| 22:31 | Not sure what the difference between those is | |
| 22:31 | jcamins | The former are bibliographic records, the latter would be physical items, with call numbers, etc. |
| 22:32 | blahdeblah | Urrgh - that's not good |
| 22:32 | There should be 1335 items | |
| 22:32 | Is there a way to bulk-create matching items? | |
| 22:32 | jcamins | That's what the 952 conversion was for. |
| 22:32 | Not really, no. | |
| 22:33 | You could write a script that would create an item for each bibliographic record. | |
| 22:34 | blahdeblah | That page you linked to didn't seem to indicate what needed to be done to allow import of holdings. Am i missing something? |
| 22:35 | jcamins | That page describes what data goes where. |
| 22:35 | It is your responsibility to find that data in your existing records and put it in those places. | |
| 22:35 | blahdeblah | OK |
| 22:35 | So if we set up some sort of transform it should be possible to copy the holdings data on import? | |
| 22:35 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 22:39 | blahdeblah | OK, so it seems to use 852 for holdings as mentioned in that wiki page |
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| 22:47 | tcohen | The Dude |
| 22:47 | DOOD | rangi: best nick ever ^^^^ |
| 22:48 | yeah I'm an idiot I just thought of it - I should have been DOOD before bag | |
| 22:48 | rangi | heh |
| 22:48 | tcohen | rangi, i pushed smth :-D |
| 22:50 | i started with a really simple one (string patch) | |
| 22:50 | tomorrow i'll continue with 10178 i guess | |
| 22:50 | cait | tcohen++ |
| 22:51 | bag | I feel so much less cool now |
| 22:51 | blahdeblah | OK, i'm still not understanding what needs to happen in order to mangle 852 to 952 on import. Is there any further info other than http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 ? |
| 22:51 | tcohen | oh, leaving, bye cait |
| 22:51 | cait | blahdeblah: for koha 852 are useless, you need to map your item data for 952 |
| 22:52 | i mean, the data needs to have it, koha is not going to do anything with it on import | |
| 22:52 | hm I am confusing | |
| 22:52 | rangi | nice :) |
| 22:52 | blahdeblah | cait: jcamins seemed to imply that it would be possible to copy it |
| 22:52 | rangi | yes, you would need to copy it |
| 22:52 | koha wont do that for you | |
| 22:53 | blahdeblah | Any tips on how to do that? |
| 22:53 | rangi | you could use something like marcedit |
| 22:53 | cait | thx rangi :) |
| 22:53 | good night all! | |
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| 22:54 | blahdeblah | rangi: Is that a Koha tool, or does it come from somewhere else? |
| 22:54 | rangi | not a koha tool |
| 22:54 | there are lots of perl tools for manipulating MARC records or there is marcedit with is free of cost but proprietary | |
| 22:55 | blahdeblah | I'm pretty comfortable with perl scripting, but happy to use another tool if it's going to be fast and easy |
| 22:55 | s/happy/prefer/ | |
| 22:55 | rangi | ive never used marcedit |
| 22:56 | but people seem to like it | |
| 22:56 | blahdeblah | Does it do bulk changes? |
| 22:56 | rangi | like i said, ive never used it |
| 22:56 | blahdeblah | I'll have a look at it |
| 22:58 | eythian | hi |
| 22:58 | wahanui | que tal, eythian |
| 23:01 | wizzyrea | cjh++ for excellent serials documentation |
| 23:01 | hi eythian :D | |
| 23:02 | cjh | I still have some local notes I have to put on the wiki at some point |
| 23:16 | rangi | mtj: your 2nd key should be added now |
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| 23:59 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 23:59 | He rā whānau koa ki a koe |
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