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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:27 | dcook joined #koha | |
| 00:35 | * jcamins | curses images, Javascript, and... everything else... roundly. |
| 00:50 | dcook | Boo everything! |
| 00:50 | * dcook | thinks it's only Tuesday |
| 00:51 | jcamins | Laugh all you want. |
| 00:52 | Javascript, images, and everything else, is evil. | |
| 00:52 | eythian_levin joined #koha | |
| 01:41 | dcook | Is it possible to upload authority records through the Koha UI or just bibliographic records? |
| 01:41 | eythian_levin | dcook: I think it's not |
| 01:41 | dcook | That's what I was thinking. Thanks |
| 01:41 | Commandline only, eh? | |
| 01:42 | eythian_levin: bug 10096 | |
| 01:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10096 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add a Z39.50 interface for authority searching |
| 01:42 | dcook | Please add any comments/ideas :) |
| 01:42 | jcamins | You can upload authority records with staged MARC. |
| 01:43 | dcook | Now he tells me! |
| 01:43 | :p | |
| 01:43 | eythian_levin | jcamins: you can? How does that work? |
| 01:43 | As it, how does it know not to chuck them into the biblio area? | |
| 01:45 | jcamins | You select "authority records" when deciding the type of record. |
| 01:47 | tcohen joined #koha | |
| 01:53 | eythian_levin | ah right, never noticed that. I just tend to use the cli by default I guess. |
| 02:03 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 02:09 | wizzyrea | wow the koha git repo is really approaching 900MB? |
| 02:11 | cjh | mine is already above that, but I have multiple remotes and lots of git branches. |
| 02:11 | wizzyrea | well i meant the one you get from koha-community |
| 02:12 | cjh | I think we should provide tar-balls that are snapshots of the git repo at various points, so that people can download them and then git pull to fetch the difference (rather than having to git clone all that) |
| 02:12 | eythian_levin | cjh: wouldn |
| 02:12 | wouldn't that amount to the same thing? | |
| 02:13 | cjh | the tar can be compressed and involves less overhead than a git clone |
| 02:13 | the end result in both cases would be a huge dir, but I am more concerned about the size of the download | |
| 02:13 | wizzyrea | huh, well 900MB was an over-estimate - it was only 523 |
| 02:13 | cjh | history and spare branches laying around :) |
| 02:14 | * wizzyrea | made the mistake of noting it was at 450mb at 50% done |
| 02:14 | wizzyrea | so whatever measure of done-ness it's using, it's not "size" |
| 02:14 | number of files maybe. | |
| 02:16 | jcamins | Yeah, I've been confused by that too. |
| 02:17 | eythian_levin | maybe as the translations got more regularly added, that bumped the file or changecount per size or something. |
| 02:18 | actually, I bet it's counting objects | |
| 02:18 | cjh | that is my guess, and the earlier ones are likely to be larger due to the way it stores them. |
| 02:21 | wizzyrea | cjh++ #gitify is the bomb diggle |
| 02:22 | cjh | thanks :) |
| 02:24 | dcook | jcamins: I'm not noticing the option of selecting authority records when importing via the UI... |
| 02:24 | jcamins | Really? |
| 02:24 | It's new in 3.10. | |
| 02:24 | It should be there. | |
| 02:24 | dcook | Mmm |
| 02:24 | That might be why ;) | |
| 02:24 | * jcamins | is working on other things, though. |
| 02:24 | dcook | Looking at a 3.8 system |
| 02:25 | No worries. Thanks for the head's up | |
| 02:26 | * dcook | takes a look |
| 02:29 | dcook | Apparently Chrome and LoC don't get along for downloading authority files... |
| 02:29 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 02:30 | dcook | Ohhh or maybe it gets along very well.. |
| 02:31 | Well, maybe not very.. | |
| 02:32 | Downloads as a "Pwebrecon.cgi" file | |
| 02:33 | Which looks like a bit of html wrapped around a marc record.. | |
| 02:33 | Import works fine on it though, it seems :D | |
| 02:37 | jcamins | No HTML. That's just the way Voyager does downloads. |
| 02:40 | dcook | Mmm, I see |
| 02:41 | When I do the same in Firefox, it presents it in HTML but that must just be so that it can show it in the window | |
| 02:41 | Btw, there's no need to have "Add new bibliographic records into this framework" on the page when importing authorities, right? | |
| 02:41 | jcamins | Right. |
| 02:42 | dcook | I'm going to wrap it in a condition, but I just want to make sure that it's not passing in anything even if it's a useless value |
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| 02:55 | dcook | jcamins++ |
| 02:55 | hey ya drojf | |
| 02:56 | jcamins: I don't mean to distract, but should I make a new bug from my template change or add a follow-up patch to bug 2060? | |
| 02:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client |
| 02:56 | jcamins | New bug. |
| 02:57 | dcook | Cool. Merci. |
| 02:57 | jcamins | Always. |
| 02:57 | I'm nice and consistent like that. | |
| 02:57 | * jcamins | goes to sleep. |
| 02:57 | jcamins | Good night. |
| 02:57 | wahanui | I'll be waiting for you to come back, jcamins. |
| 02:58 | eythian_levin | wahanui: good night is also <reply>If you feel like someone is looking through your window, it's OK, it's just me. |
| 02:58 | wahanui | okay, eythian_levin. |
| 02:58 | dcook | Have a good sleep |
| 02:58 | eythian_levin | later jcamins |
| 02:58 | wahanui: good ngiht | |
| 02:58 | wahanui | eythian_levin: what? |
| 02:58 | eythian_levin | wahanui: good night |
| 02:58 | wahanui | I'll be waiting for you to come back, eythian_levin. |
| 02:58 | eythian_levin | wahanui: good night |
| 02:58 | wahanui | I watch you sleep. |
| 02:58 | eythian_levin | wahanui: good night |
| 02:58 | wahanui | I'll be waiting for you to come back, eythian_levin. |
| 02:58 | eythian_levin | wahanui: good night |
| 02:58 | wahanui | I'll be waiting for you to come back, eythian_levin. |
| 02:58 | eythian_levin | wahanui: good night |
| 02:58 | wahanui | If you feel like someone is looking through wahanui's window, it's OK, it's just me. |
| 02:58 | eythian_levin | crap |
| 02:58 | Irma joined #koha | |
| 04:00 | * dcook | hates IE |
| 04:00 | dcook | Just more each day :p |
| 04:08 | cait joined #koha | |
| 04:11 | dcook | hey ya cait |
| 04:12 | @wunder konstanz | |
| 04:12 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0°C (6:00 AM CEST on April 23, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
| 04:12 | cait | morning dcook and thx :) |
| 04:12 | dcook | :) |
| 04:17 | eythian_levin | wahanui: cait |
| 04:17 | wahanui | cait is qam, not your secretary |
| 04:17 | eythian_levin | wahanui: cait |
| 04:17 | wahanui | go back to bed, cait. |
| 04:17 | eythian_levin | @wunder levin |
| 04:17 | huginn | eythian_levin: The current temperature in LEVIN, Levin, New Zealand is 18.2°C (4:17 PM NZST on April 23, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Rising). |
| 04:17 | eythian_levin | cait: btw the new HLT library is hy-ooge! |
| 04:32 | cait | eythian: photos? :) |
| 04:33 | what are you doing in levin? | |
| 04:33 | and can't go bak to bed... dentist appointment abit later... | |
| 04:33 | wizzyrea | working lol. |
| 04:33 | cait | wish I could |
| 04:34 | wizzyrea | koha team field trip |
| 04:35 | cait | cool :) |
| 04:35 | back to the beginnings? | |
| 04:35 | * wizzyrea | got to stay home this time |
| 04:35 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 04:35 | yea | |
| 04:35 | "got to" I mean, I went last time ^>^ | |
| 04:35 | ^.^ | |
| 04:36 | it's sooooo nice | |
| 04:45 | mib_abdbnb joined #koha | |
| 04:45 | alohabot | Hi mib_abdbnb, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 04:46 | AmitGupta joined #koha | |
| 04:46 | cait | wizzyrea: :) |
| 04:47 | AmitGupta | hi katrin around? |
| 04:48 | cait | yes, I am here |
| 04:48 | AmitGupta | bug 10013 |
| 04:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10013 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Failed QA , Ability to link directly from an item in the Staff client to budget information. |
| 04:48 | AmitGupta | is faild in QA |
| 04:49 | failed* | |
| 04:49 | cait | yes |
| 04:49 | AmitGupta | why? |
| 04:49 | cait | I have noted 4 reasons why :) |
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| 04:50 | alohabot | Hi mib_hk1lmd, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 04:50 | cait | take a look at comments 3 and 4 |
| 04:50 | it doesn't follow coding guidelines | |
| 04:50 | AmitGupta | ok thanks |
| 04:50 | cait | but honestly I am wondering if that will work |
| 04:50 | in that place | |
| 04:50 | I would rather like to see such a link in a less prominent place | |
| 04:51 | but that's my opinion, not the coding guidelines | |
| 04:51 | sanju | i have trouble regarding searchinf data from koha |
| 04:51 | AmitGupta | ok i will do again |
| 04:52 | sanju | books entered in 2011 is not listed however those in 2012 are listed properly |
| 04:52 | why does this occur? | |
| 04:52 | can this be rectified by rebuilding zebra? | |
| 04:53 | mtj | sanju, it is always worth trying that |
| 04:53 | sanju | but how do i rebuild zebra |
| 04:55 | when i searched i found about koha instance.what is that? | |
| 04:58 | trea left #koha | |
| 05:00 | mtj | instance means 'name' |
| 05:00 | so, you can install many kohas on one server, each koha 'instance' has its own name | |
| 05:02 | the 'koha-list' command shows you all your koha 'instances'... | |
| 05:03 | sanju | when i tried koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v test i got sudo: unknown user: -f-koha |
| 05:04 | test is a koha instance i created | |
| 05:07 | i am running as root in debian squeeze | |
| 05:09 | mtj | sanju, hmm - sorry, i dont know what that problem is :/ |
| 05:10 | sanju | ok thanks |
| 05:10 | but so u know how to rebuild zebra? | |
| 05:10 | mtj | means you dont have a 'koha' user in your /etc/passwd file, i think... |
| 05:10 | sanju | i mean do u know |
| 05:11 | mtj | tho, i dont think you should *need* a koha user - so i dont know why its asking for one, either... |
| 05:12 | sanju, i would concentrate on fixing your 'koha-rebuild-zebra' error first ^^ | |
| 05:12 | sanju | can u help me rebuild zebra |
| 05:12 | ok | |
| 05:12 | mtj | ... rather than attempting to rebuild zebra another way |
| 05:14 | sanju | koha is listed in my /etc/passwd file |
| 05:16 | cait | oh how weird |
| 05:16 | can someone test something? cataloguing search - I am missing the biblionumber in all links from the search result list | |
| 05:27 | never mind, filed bug 10099 | |
| 05:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10099 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cataloguing search result list links broken |
| 05:31 | mtj | heya cait, hmmm, lemme check that on my koha… |
| 05:33 | hmm, working for me, so far | |
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| 05:33 | alohabot | Hi mib_1jtvez, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 05:33 | cait | mtj: weird |
| 05:33 | are you on latest master? and looking at the cataloguing search? | |
| 05:33 | not the normal one, that works for me | |
| 05:36 | mib_1jtvez | I have NaN values in my replacement cost, budgeted cost and total under the accounting detail when placing order. the value appear when i enter the quantity and using my active currency, anyone know what's wrong? |
| 05:36 | mtj | yes, and yes |
| 05:36 | cait | hm |
| 05:36 | very weird | |
| 05:36 | let me check again if I was looking at english | |
| 05:36 | hmmmm | |
| 05:36 | now they are there | |
| 05:37 | weird. what did I do differently | |
| 05:37 | it was broken in 2 browsers for me | |
| 05:37 | oooh | |
| 05:37 | mtj: try looking at the very first result | |
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| 05:38 | cait | i have a result list with multiple pages and it's only broken for the first one |
| 05:38 | mtj | meh, still works ok |
| 05:38 | cait | hm not for me |
| 05:38 | mtj | 44 result(s) found in catalog, 0 result(s) found in reservoir |
| 05:38 | cait | http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]trn=der%20&page=1 |
| 05:38 | mtj | are you looking the catalogue, or reservoir results? |
| 05:39 | cait | catalogue |
| 05:39 | wahanui | catalogue is, like, to view the catalogue or the mainpage |
| 05:39 | mtj | ok, mee too |
| 05:39 | cait | i searched for der |
| 05:39 | which would be "the" in english :) | |
| 05:39 | and for number one in the ist the links are missing biblionumber | |
| 05:41 | if you can't reproduce that's weird, but I am downgrading the bug now - because first entry is not as bad | |
| 05:42 | mtj | cait, my pic attached to bug |
| 05:42 | cait | i see it |
| 05:42 | oh i see what it is | |
| 05:42 | i shouldn't do testing in the mornings | |
| 05:43 | * cait | facepalms |
| 05:43 | mtj | waa waa? |
| 05:43 | cait | probably a deleted record |
| 05:43 | mtj | aah :) |
| 05:43 | did you rebuild your zebra! :p | |
| 05:43 | cait | i do... sometimes... |
| 05:43 | :P | |
| 05:44 | and I am doing it right now | |
| 05:45 | we should have a status 'resolved - dumb' | |
| 05:46 | mtj: thx for testing | |
| 05:46 | can we just forget about it now? | |
| 05:47 | mtj | yes, lets put this all behind us... |
| 05:47 | cait | heh |
| 05:48 | mtj: are you going to kohacon? | |
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| 06:03 | cait | bug 10030 is giving me trouble too |
| 06:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10030 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , MaxFines checks against amount, not amount outstanding |
| 06:03 | cait | gues it's time for the dentist... |
| 06:05 | cait left #koha | |
| 06:10 | dcook | Any UNIMARC users around atm? |
| 06:24 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:26 | magnuse | dcook: biblibre folks will probably show up in ~35 minutes |
| 06:26 | dcook | Yeah, just as I'm heading off ;) |
| 06:26 | No worries | |
| 06:26 | I found the IFLA UNIMARC format docs :) | |
| 06:26 | We were looking at some records and thought that they made absolutely zero sense | |
| 06:26 | Until we realized they were UNIMARC and not MARC21 ;) | |
| 06:27 | I suppose I could still ask some questions... | |
| 06:27 | The MARCXML was still pointing at the LOC and marc21 schema... | |
| 06:27 | magnuse | were they records from koha? |
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| 06:29 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:29 | alex_a | hello |
| 06:31 | dcook | magnuse: yep |
| 06:31 | hey reiveune, alex_a :) | |
| 06:31 | Whoa...Frédéric Demians wrote a unimarc to marc21 perl module? https://metacpan.org/module/MA[…]::UnimarcToMarc21 | |
| 06:35 | alex_a | hello dcook. Seems esay to use |
| 06:35 | fredericdem++ | |
| 06:36 | dcook | Yeah, it does |
| 06:37 | I wonder if it's 100% functional | |
| 06:38 | * dcook | looks at the clock |
| 06:39 | dcook | 20 minutes left to work on z39.50 for authorities :p |
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| 06:40 | dcook | P.S. Looks like there is an email going around seemingly from Vodafone that has a virus in its attached HTML |
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| 06:47 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
| 06:49 | magnuse | bonjour christophe_c |
| 06:49 | christophe_c | bonjour magnuse |
| 06:49 | ;-) | |
| 06:50 | dcook | salut christophe_c |
| 06:50 | christophe_c | hello dcook |
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| 06:56 | dcook | wb AmitGupta |
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| 06:56 | magnuse | kia ora paul_p |
| 06:59 | * mtj | waves to magnuse , dcook , AmitGupta , christophe_c , alex_a , reiveune |
| 06:59 | dcook | hey ya paul_p, mtj |
| 06:59 | paul_p | good morning everybody |
| 06:59 | christophe_c | hello mtj |
| 06:59 | magnuse | hiya mtj |
| 07:00 | mtj | woah!, just spotted that unimarc->marc21 module from frederic |
| 07:01 | dcook | I know, right? |
| 07:01 | Right? | |
| 07:02 | mtj | theres a whole bunch of MARC::Moose stuff :p -> https://metacpan.org/module/MARC::Moose |
| 07:02 | dcook | Yeah, I was seeing that |
| 07:02 | the unimarc->marc21 looks like it has quite a few dependencies | |
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| 07:03 | dcook | Frédéric might be a machine... |
| 07:03 | mtj | the force is strong in this one… |
| 07:03 | * dcook | waves to asaurat |
| 07:03 | dcook | Yeah, I might have to try it out sometime this week if I can find the time |
| 07:04 | Joubu | hello #koha |
| 07:04 | * dcook | finally has a test box (with a working cpu and RAM), so I might have to look at installing Debian some time in the next few days and maybe do a bit of dev at home |
| 07:04 | dcook | Koha is so addictive... |
| 07:04 | hi Joubu | |
| 07:05 | asaurat | hi =) |
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| 07:19 | magnuse | bgkriegel++ for signing off bug 10041 |
| 07:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10041 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Provide a koha-translate script to aid package users on installing translations |
| 07:20 | * magnuse | hopes it makes it into 3.12 too |
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| 07:26 | samuel | hi everybody |
| 07:27 | we have some problems with authorities. research in authorities module doesn't work | |
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| 07:38 | huginn | GERMS!!!! |
| 07:38 | wahanui | germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg |
| 07:38 | kf | hey huginn |
| 07:38 | hi #koha | |
| 07:42 | rangi | evening |
| 07:42 | only here for a bit, then have to put kids to sleep | |
| 07:42 | but reading emails after a day away from my computer :) | |
| 07:42 | kf | lots of email? :) |
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| 07:56 | dcook | This authority z39.50 search is easier said than done! |
| 07:56 | Kind of fun though... | |
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| 08:16 | longrider | HI |
| 08:16 | wahanui | hola, longrider |
| 08:17 | longrider | mail sent is not working in koha 3.10 |
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| 08:17 | longrider | I set up exim in my server |
| 08:18 | And I can sent mail manually from my server | |
| 08:18 | but checkin and checkout and other mail are not going. | |
| 08:20 | hello \ | |
| 08:20 | anybody is here? | |
| 08:21 | magnuse | longrider: how did you install? if you used the debian packages you have to enable email for each instance |
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| 08:33 | * magnuse | hands wizzyrea the velcro ;-) |
| 08:33 | * wizzyrea | is setting up bip |
| 08:34 | * magnuse | guessed so from some of the nick changes :-) |
| 08:35 | longrider | How I will do that? |
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| 08:36 | longrider | I install koha from manual method. |
| 08:36 | not using apt-get install koha-common | |
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| 08:40 | wizzyrea | do any of you know what the on_connect_send string is to have bip auto identify |
| 08:41 | i've tried the one that's in tere | |
| 08:41 | and /msg nickserv identify password wizzyrea | |
| 08:41 | (not my real password | |
| 08:42 | dcook | Alas, I have not tried bip...yet |
| 08:42 | * dcook | wondered why wizzyrea occasionally became a guest... |
| 08:43 | dcook | On a side note: I think I've figured out how Koha does it's z39.50 searching now, so hopefully should have at least a trial z39.50 authority search by the end of the week... |
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| 08:45 | dcook | Anyway, night for me |
| 08:45 | night wizzyrea | |
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| 08:48 | mtj | packages? |
| 08:48 | wahanui | i guess packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 08:49 | mtj | longrider, there is some info for you ^^ |
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| 09:02 | rangi | hmm |
| 09:03 | wizzyrea | boing boing boing |
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| 09:03 | rangi | no pull requests .. so cant release |
| 09:05 | wizzyrea | ! |
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| 09:17 | magnuse | no pull requests? |
| 09:17 | rangi | for po files |
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| 09:19 | kf | :( |
| 09:19 | magnuse | ah |
| 09:19 | ping druthb_away? | |
| 09:21 | kf | too late at night for her |
| 09:21 | i know she wanted to do them last night, but if they are not there now, probably have to wait until rangi gets up again | |
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| 09:24 | magnuse | sleeping-- ;-) |
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| 10:01 | kf | @later tell eythian - could you maybe take a look at the pacakge related patches in the signed off queue? |
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| 10:04 | * Chris Cormack: Release Notes for 3.10.5 | |
| 10:04 | * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version | |
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| 10:13 | wizzyrea | sorry for all the bouncing |
| 10:13 | hopefully we'll see less nick juggling. | |
| 10:13 | :) | |
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| 10:28 | longrider | anybody is here? |
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| 10:42 | * Chris Cormack: Bumpding database version | |
| 10:42 | * Chris Cormack: 3.8.12 release notes | |
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| 10:49 | kf | packages? |
| 10:49 | wahanui | packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 10:50 | kf | mailing lists? |
| 10:50 | wahanui | mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 10:50 | kf | irc? |
| 10:50 | wahanui | irc is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 10:50 | wizzyrea | the grammar on packages makes me feel a bit crazy |
| 10:50 | kf | wizzyrea: it's a wiki *hint* hehe |
| 10:51 | wizzyrea | no no wahanui's response |
| 10:51 | kf | aah |
| 10:51 | magnuse | well, it's not the packages themselves that are at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian ? |
| 10:52 | it's just information about the packages | |
| 10:52 | wizzyrea | true enough |
| 10:52 | trea | :D |
| 10:53 | magnuse | :-) |
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| 10:59 | quocuy | nickserv identify Hoangthuy1 |
| 11:00 | wizzyrea | oops |
| 11:00 | quocuy | :0 |
| 11:00 | fail command | |
| 11:00 | wizzyrea | you might consider changing that >.> |
| 11:00 | quocuy | no, don't need :) |
| 11:01 | i always forget / before command | |
| 11:01 | Sorry, when do we have next meeting? | |
| 11:03 | trea | it's in the motd |
| 11:03 | kf | tonight is the meeting for kohacon, may 7 the next general meeting |
| 11:03 | wizzyrea | Next general IRC meeting 7 May 2013 at 02:00 UTC |
| 11:04 | magnuse | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]eting,_7_May_2013 |
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| 11:09 | slef | Next general IRC meeting? |
| 11:09 | Next general IRC meeting is 7 May 2013 at 02:00 UTC | |
| 11:10 | kf | hi slef |
| 11:11 | hm this new pootle looks nice | |
| 11:12 | http://pootle.locamotion.org/d[…]filter=incomplete | |
| 11:12 | magnuse | slef: congrats to the missus! |
| 11:13 | slef | magnuse: heh, I'll pass it on. Damn facebook? |
| 11:14 | kf | now I am curious! and no facebook... heh |
| 11:14 | magnuse | slef: yup, damn facebook |
| 11:15 | slef | kf: facebook leaks birthdays |
| 11:15 | magnuse | kf: it's sarah's birthday |
| 11:16 | * magnuse | didn't realize ils-di was quite so wide open... |
| 11:18 | kf | it is |
| 11:18 | if you don't block by ip | |
| 11:18 | which you should | |
| 11:19 | magnuse: Alles Gute von mir! | |
| 11:19 | arg | |
| 11:19 | slef: Alles Gute von mir! | |
| 11:19 | this tuesday feels like a monday | |
| 11:19 | magnuse | gah! |
| 11:20 | kf: and https is probably a good idea too | |
| 11:21 | slef | kf++ |
| 11:22 | kf | magnuse: yep |
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| 11:40 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 11:41 | kf: remember what i said about building packages? i remember "use the right VM"… :) | |
| 11:42 | magnuse | kf or anyone: did we ever talk about providing translations for tiny_mce? or do i confuse it with the offline circ tool? |
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| 11:47 | jcamins | We did. |
| 11:48 | I don't remember what we decided, but we talked about it. | |
| 11:50 | drojf | is there an opac includes equivalent to intranet_includes somewhen >3.8? |
| 11:54 | or put differently, if a design person wanted to edit opac include files, should i chase him off or what is the best way do it (regarding updates) | |
| 11:56 | jcamins | drojf: get him to do things in a way that you can send the changes upstream? |
| 11:57 | And/or add an opac_includes syspref. | |
| 11:59 | drojf | i think i will have a look at how that was done for intranet. it seems like the right way (and much better than "le |
| 11:59 | oops | |
| 11:59 | muc hbetter than "why dont we ditch packages?" | |
| 12:02 | from the mailing list discussion i take that merging the opac themes is widely accepted… what would be a realistic time frame for such a change? 3.16? 3.18? (or whatever the numbering will be) | |
| 12:03 | and should there be discussion about it at the irc meeting? | |
| 12:07 | jcamins | I don't see why. |
| 12:08 | Viktor | Known bug? 3.12 beta 2 drops the bar with links to last names when you click on a letter without patrons. Safari/Chrome on OS X. Can't find anything on it on Bugzilla |
| 12:08 | (The stuff that should go after "Browse by last name:" | |
| 12:08 | kf | known bug |
| 12:09 | somewhere in bugzilla | |
| 12:09 | Viktor | Thanks kf |
| 12:09 | kf | let me find it - I filed it |
| 12:09 | Viktor | I'll have to hone my Bugzilla skills then :) |
| 12:09 | Happy as long as it's reported :) | |
| 12:09 | kf | it might be part of a bug that got closed or something |
| 12:10 | never hurts to check :) | |
| 12:10 | bug 9337 | |
| 12:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9337 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Alphabet for browsing patrons by last name not visible after performing a patron search |
| 12:10 | kf | Viktor: i looked for alphabet - normally I try one single word first |
| 12:11 | magnuse | drojf: oleonard is working on something like merging prog and ccsr, i think he has plans for 3.14 with it... |
| 12:11 | drojf | oh, that's fast! |
| 12:11 | and will scare the design person to death :P | |
| 12:11 | magnuse | yup, oleonard is pretty awesome :-) |
| 12:11 | Viktor | kf Aha - I tried a few short searches while limiting to patrons in advanced. Should perhaps tried browsing instead of searching. |
| 12:13 | drojf | he is! |
| 12:13 | oleonard++ | |
| 12:14 | kf | magnuse: drojf: totally awesome |
| 12:14 | drojf | hi kf :) |
| 12:14 | i made a package all without you ;) | |
| 12:14 | kf | Viktor: I only use the advanced search when everything else fails :) |
| 12:14 | hi drojf :) | |
| 12:14 | that's good then ;) | |
| 12:14 | drojf: you cna roll your own packages witht he changes - that's what we are going to do | |
| 12:15 | drojf: thankfully there are not a lot of changes left, but we might also include the icons and things for the design etc. | |
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| 12:16 | drojf | hm yes that is what i was thinking about right now. if i do packages anyway, i could include that too. but the patch i build packages for will hopefully go into koha so i don't have to do that. having opac_includes as a syspref would be nice |
| 12:16 | * magnuse | updates http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Linked_Data_RFC |
| 12:16 | kf | hm it sounds familiar |
| 12:16 | i wonder if we used to have that | |
| 12:16 | or doe we only have one for staff? | |
| 12:17 | drojf | hm yes it would be nice to have the design person do the changes in git actually |
| 12:17 | we have one for staff. and i remember people talking about it for opac, so i was hoping we had that already | |
| 12:17 | kf | aah |
| 12:17 | ok | |
| 12:17 | yeah it makes sense | |
| 12:17 | but not sure if it's widely used | |
| 12:17 | you could also do a theme | |
| 12:18 | I think it just falls back to the files youdon't provide or something like that | |
| 12:18 | drojf | to have themes removed in 3.14? i don't think so |
| 12:18 | kf | I think we only want to merge the default |
| 12:18 | not remove theming options | |
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| 12:18 | kf | because supporting 2 themes in master is hard |
| 12:18 | drojf | at least someone wanted to do that, but i don't know |
| 12:18 | kf | i don't see good reason to |
| 12:19 | kill a feature that works for those who want to go that way | |
| 12:19 | oleonard | I think it's quite possible the new theme will be ready for 3.14 |
| 12:19 | drojf | it's a while ago that i read the mails |
| 12:19 | kf | oleonard++ |
| 12:19 | oleonard: do you think I got it right? merge themes but keep option to have multiple themes? | |
| 12:19 | oleonard | ..but I'm not sure how we manage the two old ones in that transition |
| 12:19 | drojf | oleonard, the wizard of UI |
| 12:19 | oleonard | kf: That's the way I understand it |
| 12:21 | At this point I think maybe the new design could replace CCSR, then prog could be dropped after a time | |
| 12:21 | ...because there are probably fewer libraries with extensive CCSR customizations | |
| 12:21 | magnuse | sounds like a plan! |
| 12:21 | drojf | i see that doing layout customisation NOW is a bad idea :D |
| 12:22 | oleonard | drojf: My goal for the new theme is that it has all the same customization options as prog, but the layout will be based on a new grid system |
| 12:23 | drojf | oleonard: that sounds fantastic to me |
| 12:23 | oleonard | So yeah, *layout* customization now may not be a good idea, but other kinds of customizations could be more easily transferred |
| 12:24 | * kf | agrees with drojf |
| 12:24 | drojf | i was hoping to get the design person to use only sysprefs but it does not seem like that is the plan :/ |
| 12:24 | kf | drojf: have you told them they will have to pay you lots more hours for updating? |
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| 12:26 | * kf | sends drojf extra cookies |
| 12:26 | drojf | thanks :) |
| 12:26 | kf++ # cookies! | |
| 12:27 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 12:28 | drojf | hi tcohen |
| 12:28 | kf | gluten free of course |
| 12:28 | drojf | :) |
| 12:28 | tcohen | gluten rules |
| 12:28 | drojf | you can have it all! |
| 12:28 | tcohen | :-P |
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| 12:35 | jcamins | Hey... |
| 12:35 | didn't I push a patch fixing the encoding of tags? | |
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| 12:37 | libsysguy | morning |
| 12:37 | wahanui | morning is a state of cat |
| 12:38 | libsysguy | morning is a state of caffeination |
| 12:39 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 12:39 | wahanui | Ah, morning. The cat must be wanting breakfast. |
| 12:43 | kf | morning jcamins |
| 12:43 | :) | |
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| 12:54 | druthb | o/ |
| 12:54 | @later tell rangi problems with the home network last night…pull requests delayed to tonight. | |
| 12:54 | huginn | druthb: The operation succeeded. |
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| 13:03 | drojf | we should have a "go unsubscribe yourself" autoresponder :P |
| 13:05 | druthb | drojf++ |
| 13:07 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #11 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 13:07 | drojf | hi druthb |
| 13:08 | druthb | Hi, drojf! :D |
| 13:09 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9358' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9fe6c0a586daaad47> / Bug 9358 - Followup - Fixed field plugins for MARC21 should be updated for MARC21... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]686c9ba12e8e73b57> / Bug 9358 - Fixed field plugins for MARC21 should be updated for MARC21 update #15 < |
| 13:10 | * druthb | was thinking of her German friends on the way to work today; the BBC World Service was having an interview with a lady who is the head of Corporate Diversity for Daimler, who was talking about the cultural barriers to women in management in Germany. |
| 13:11 | druthb | The interview was in English, and the lady's voice was almost as pretty as kf's. |
| 13:12 | kf | maybe it's just the German accent then ;) |
| 13:12 | drojf | heh |
| 13:13 | druthb | :) |
| 13:28 | drojf | looks like rangi backported list.gif away for 3.10.x :O |
| 13:28 | oleonard | ? |
| 13:28 | quocuy | hi everyone |
| 13:29 | drojf | oleonard: i upgraded from 3.8 to 3.10 and list.gif is missing from the opac due to bug 8108 it seems |
| 13:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8108 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove unused images from the OPAC |
| 13:29 | quocuy | do we have a meeting today? |
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| 13:31 | oleonard | Or Bug 7500 drojf ? |
| 13:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7500 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Use CSS Sprites in the OPAC for faster page loading |
| 13:31 | drojf | oh, i got more. after a search i am missing addtolist-small.gif, highlight.gif and list.gif |
| 13:31 | kf | drojf: packages? |
| 13:31 | wahanui | packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 13:32 | drojf | yes |
| 13:32 | kf | there are some path problems there I think with patches in bugzilla (signed off list) |
| 13:32 | not sure but one of those might affect you | |
| 13:32 | drojf | the yui thing should be ok now. and it looked different |
| 13:32 | that one i remember about path problems | |
| 13:32 | tcohen | bug 10084 |
| 13:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10084 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , YUI path wrong in CCSR theme with packages |
| 13:33 | drojf | thanks, but we are using prog so that should not affect us |
| 13:34 | tcohen | ok |
| 13:34 | magnuse | anyone else seen this: one library has 8 copies of a book, with 2 different Shelving locations (3 in one, 5 in the other). in search results they are displayed as "Copies available: libraryx (3), libraryx (5)" |
| 13:35 | drojf | the files are all on the list for removal of bug 8108 so i suppose that should not have been brought to 3.10 because these files were only not used in master? |
| 13:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8108 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove unused images from the OPAC |
| 13:35 | * drojf | is confused |
| 13:36 | oleonard | 7500 is in 3.10.x, so 8108 should apply to 3.10.x too |
| 13:36 | Where are you noticing the problem drojf? | |
| 13:37 | magnuse | drojf: you don't have translations that need to be refreshed? |
| 13:38 | drojf | ooooooh thanks magnuse. i think i did that the last time too. that is probably it |
| 13:38 | magnuse | yay |
| 13:38 | * drojf | is stupid |
| 13:38 | drojf | magnuse++ |
| 13:38 | * magnuse | is stupid too, then |
| 13:39 | druthb | ! |
| 13:39 | drojf | damn translations. why don't we all speak klingon or something :/ |
| 13:39 | druthb | dissing_yourself-- |
| 13:39 | magnuse | agreed! one language to rule them all! |
| 13:39 | drojf | :D |
| 13:40 | * druthb | seconds "Klingon." |
| 13:41 | says in her deepest voice, "tlhIng'an maH!" | |
| 13:41 | drojf | i should have expected someone here actually speaking klingon. my bad. :D |
| 13:42 | druthb | I speak Klingon about as well as I speak German. Not very well, and only with a reference handy. |
| 13:42 | But kf has been teaching me words—enough so I would not starve if I came to Germany. | |
| 13:43 | drojf | yeah, a lot of people here speak klingon :P |
| 13:45 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #11: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/11/ |
| 13:45 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10085: unapi does not function under Plack | |
| 13:45 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 8294: Fix display of serial enumeration for OPAC holds | |
| 13:45 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10026 - OPAC cart not showing location anymore | |
| 13:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10085 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Unapi does not function under Plack |
| 13:45 | jenkins_koha | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9358 - Fixed field plugins for MARC21 should be updated for MARC21 update #15 |
| 13:45 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9358 - Followup - Fixed field plugins for MARC21 should be updated for MARC21 update #15 | |
| 13:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8294 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , enumeration should show in copy specific hold menu |
| 13:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10026 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , OPAC cart not showing location anymore | |
| 13:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9358 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Fixed field plugins for MARC21 should be updated for MARC21 update #15 | |
| 13:45 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1146 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 13:45 | kf | druthb: i also told you that people here speak english and half of the menus are english anyway |
| 13:46 | also we have mcdonalds and the like, starving woudl be really really hard | |
| 13:46 | magnuse | success! \o/ |
| 13:47 | drojf | druthb kf i could perfectly imagine a grumpy berlin waiting person to not serve you a hamburger if you don't pronounce it in a german way ;D |
| 13:47 | druthb | magnuse: Qapla'! \o/ |
| 13:48 | oleonard | And likewise, if you come to America you'll find that most Americans speak French, German, Italian, Norwegian, Polish, etc. |
| 13:48 | drojf | @INC contains: /home/chris/git/koha.git <-- hehe |
| 13:48 | oleonard | It's hard to keep up with them all, but we want to be good global citizens. |
| 13:48 | huginn | drojf: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 13:48 | druthb | *snrk* |
| 13:48 | kf | oleonard: lol |
| 13:48 | * druthb | wonders what space-time warp oleonard has been in. |
| 13:49 | * magnuse | senses a hint of irony or even sarcasm in oleonard's voice |
| 13:49 | druthb | magnuse: deeep sarcasm. |
| 13:49 | magnuse | hehe |
| 13:49 | * magnuse | wanders off to practice his norwegian |
| 13:50 | druthb | being able to say "Good morning" in more than two languages is regarded as *very* unusual. |
| 13:50 | (at least, in the South.) | |
| 13:58 | tcohen | that page doesn't exist tweetbot |
| 14:00 | oleonard | http://bywatersolutions.com/koha-plugins/ |
| 14:01 | drojf | how do i update all language files at once? i think i only did it manually before |
| 14:02 | by language files i mean the .po files | |
| 14:04 | nengard | hmmmm ... how did it mess up that link? |
| 14:04 | oleonard | It worked for me nengard |
| 14:04 | tcohen | cd /usr/share/koha/misc/translator/po |
| 14:05 | nengard | oh good - me too |
| 14:05 | tcohen | rm lang*.po |
| 14:05 | nengard | :) |
| 14:05 | tcohen | for i in es-ES-pref.po es-ES-i-staff-t-prog-v-3006000.po es-ES-i-opac-t-prog-v-3006000.po es-ES-opac-ccsr.po ; do wget -O $i http://translate.koha-communit[…]/312/$i/download/ ; done |
| 14:05 | (that's for es-ES of course drojf) | |
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| 14:06 | kf | hm some interesting examples |
| 14:06 | tcohen: copying that :) | |
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| 14:09 | kf | druthb: can we close 9018? |
| 14:09 | drojf | tcohen: thanks! i thought i could get all files for all languages automatically |
| 14:09 | but we have only english and german at the moment it seems :D | |
| 14:11 | tcohen | I don't have the language codes list, but you could wrap that inside another for loop of course |
| 14:13 | drojf | i thought we had more languages activated, it does not really matter for german only. works fine btw, thanks |
| 14:14 | tcohen | should koha-enable support more than one instance as parameter eythian magnuse? |
| 14:14 | its coded for that, but [ "$#" = 1 ] thinks otherwise | |
| 14:24 | anyone that uses the koha-enable command? | |
| 14:30 | gmcharlt | tcohen: there's a loop after, so I think allowing more than one instance name was intended |
| 14:30 | the parameter check just needs to be tweaked to check for *at least* one | |
| 14:30 | tcohen | i'm revisiting those scripts as of bug 4876 and bug 10003 |
| 14:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4876 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Rewrite koha-* scripts in Perl, with error checking - omnibus |
| 14:31 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10003 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , koha-* scripts (packages) should provide tab-completion in bash | |
| 14:31 | drojf | "Vampyrologie für Bibliothekare". lol |
| 14:40 | tcohen | gmcharlt: would you abort if an instance is already enabled or non-existent? (context loop in koha-enable) |
| 14:41 | gmcharlt | tcohen: hmm, no -- just print a statement to the effect that it was already enabled |
| 14:42 | tcohen | ok, and non-existent? |
| 14:43 | gmcharlt | still warn, but don't abort |
| 14:43 | rambutan | @later tell wizzyrea We have about 3/4" of snow on the ground |
| 14:43 | huginn | rambutan: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:43 | rambutan | @wunder 64507 |
| 14:43 | huginn | rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 0.4°C (9:43 AM CDT on April 23, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). Freeze warning in effect from 1 am to 8 am CDT Wednesday... |
| 14:44 | oleonard | rambutan: You're the other-people's-weather channel? |
| 14:44 | drojf | magnuse++ btw, it was of course a problem of old translation files |
| 14:44 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 14:44 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 16.1°C (10:21 AM EDT on April 23, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:44 | rambutan | weather underground? |
| 14:46 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 14:46 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 25.0°C (11:00 AM ART on April 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:46 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
| 14:46 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Morningside Place, Houston, Texas is 22.3°C (9:45 AM CDT on April 23, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:53 | drojf | i think the university server reindexes slower than my raspberry pi :/ |
| 14:54 | kf | Joubu++ for unit tests :) |
| 14:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1146: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1146/ |
| 14:54 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10085: unapi does not function under Plack | |
| 14:54 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 8294: Fix display of serial enumeration for OPAC holds | |
| 14:54 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 10026 - OPAC cart not showing location anymore | |
| 14:54 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9358 - Fixed field plugins for MARC21 should be updated for MARC21 update #15 | |
| 14:54 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9358 - Followup - Fixed field plugins for MARC21 should be updated for MARC21 update #15 | |
| 14:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10085 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Unapi does not function under Plack |
| 14:54 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8294 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , enumeration should show in copy specific hold menu | |
| 14:54 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10026 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , OPAC cart not showing location anymore | |
| 14:54 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9358 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Fixed field plugins for MARC21 should be updated for MARC21 update #15 | |
| 14:56 | Joubu | kf: Thanks, but I'm not happy. I reinvent the wheel (create order, basket, vendor, etc.) for 3 little tests :-/ |
| 14:57 | it's better than nothing! | |
| 14:58 | kf | it definitely is |
| 14:58 | why is acq so hard? | |
| 14:59 | I mean everyone says it is and I blieve it :) but what's the main reason? data linked together so much? | |
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| 15:03 | kf | hm probably |
| 15:03 | * kf | goes back to checkign serials data imports |
| 15:07 | tcohen | am i wrong or changing apache configs need a reload instead of a restart command? |
| 15:08 | jcamins | tcohen: reload works sometimes. |
| 15:08 | Restart works all the time. | |
| 15:08 | I use restart. | |
| 15:08 | tcohen | thanks jcamins |
| 15:08 | druthb | Part of the reason it's so hard, kf, is the lack of any sorts of useful standards for how one does it. (unlike, say, cataloging, where we have AACR/MARCish things that say "here's how to do it." Each *institution* can do purchase orders different, mostly.) |
| 15:13 | oleonard | ...when really they should all be speaking Klingon. |
| 15:13 | drojf | yay, update done, nothing obviously broken \o/ |
| 15:14 | druthb | oleonard++ |
| 15:15 | oleonard | Klingon is the new Esperanto |
| 15:17 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:23 | asaurat | esperanto is nice :) and easier than klingon ;) |
| 15:23 | * kf | waves to asaurat |
| 15:24 | asaurat | salut :) |
| 15:24 | druthb | bonan matenon, asurat! :) |
| 15:25 | asaurat | charmita :D |
| 15:25 | oleonard | Now see that just looks like you're speaking any number of languages incorrectly. |
| 15:25 | asaurat | yeah, somehow, hehe |
| 15:25 | tcohen | bug 10101, i'm loving the palindrome |
| 15:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10101 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-enable error handling |
| 15:25 | asaurat | it's not very beautiful |
| 15:27 | well, a good part of the esperanto writings belong to the poetry genre, maybe some gems are awaiting here and there =) | |
| 15:27 | before the couchsurfing community, esperanto was a good way to travel | |
| 15:27 | kf | someone recently pointed out that stressed reads desserts backwards... which explains a whole lot |
| 15:28 | asaurat | lol |
| 15:28 | never noticed that hehe | |
| 15:28 | druthb | The nice thing about Esperanto is that the vowels do not change meaning with pronunciation. |
| 15:29 | You can't say the "wrong" word by mispronouncing a vowel…it's just "an accent." | |
| 15:30 | asaurat | yep, it's easy to lean and easy to understand during a conversation (well, I just took a few lessons...) |
| 15:30 | oleonard | Does anyone have an example of an active AuthorisedValueImages system preference showing images in OPAC search results? |
| 15:30 | I tried setting an image for a LOC value, but it isn't showing up in search results | |
| 15:31 | jcamins | oleonard: when I tested your patch for that it worked. |
| 15:31 | drojf | kf: did the problem with 10050 get fixed or did rangi just not find it? :) |
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| 15:32 | kf | he didn't find it |
| 15:32 | but it's on my list... and it's a long list | |
| 15:32 | if you got a minute a patch would be awesme | |
| 15:32 | asaurat | good evening, bis Donnerstag |
| 15:32 | oleonard | jcamins: Oh, forgot it's only biblio-level (which makes sense) |
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| 15:35 | drojf | kf: seems like i am done with my work here, so yes. if i find the log of our conversation and remember what the problem was :) |
| 15:35 | kf | the problem is that the pref is missing from sysprefs.sql |
| 15:35 | and it seems that when you switch it in the editor and it does not exist in the database | |
| 15:35 | drojf | ah right! |
| 15:35 | kf | it's added in lowercase |
| 15:35 | and that makes the sql fail | |
| 15:36 | while it shoudl be matching the capitalization from the pref editor | |
| 15:36 | guess that would warrant another fix, but adding it to the sysprefs.sql would be nice still | |
| 15:37 | jcamins: and that is the reason why all new prefs should be added to sysprefs.sql | |
| 15:37 | I wonder if we also need a database update... not sure when the pref was introduced | |
| 15:38 | reasons I love koha - this library got an update of over 6800 records last thursday and we didn't even notice it :) | |
| 15:38 | with the automated imports from the union catalog | |
| 15:39 | drojf | witchcraft! |
| 15:39 | kf | hehe yes:) |
| 15:39 | drojf | did you see the vampire book on inetbib? i have not had the time to look what it actually is |
| 15:40 | jcamins | I don't know what you're talking about, but so far as I know, all new prefs have been added to sysprefs.sql. |
| 15:40 | If one wasn't, a patch is welcome. | |
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| 15:56 | rambutan | @later tell wizzyrea http://imageshack.com/photo/my[…]32/vansnow01.jpg/ |
| 15:56 | huginn | rambutan: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:57 | * druthb | does not miss snow. Not a bit. |
| 15:57 | wore a sleeveless blouse to work today, and drove with the windows down. | |
| 15:57 | libsysguy | speaking of work |
| 15:57 | is lunch down there yet? | |
| 15:57 | rambutan | ya, y'all living in the tropics... :) |
| 15:58 | libsysguy | :p |
| 15:59 | rambutan | I used to live in SAT, I remember watering my lawn at midnight on New Year's eve one time. |
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| 15:59 | druthb | should be, libsysguy. Come join me for lunch? |
| 16:01 | drojf | there is no ; at the end of the last line of syspref.sql in master. shouldn't that make it explode? |
| 16:01 | jcamins | Isn't it 11 on TX? |
| 16:02 | drojf: it should. | |
| 16:02 | But doesn't, apparently, since I ran a new install a few weeks ago. | |
| 16:02 | drojf | yay, fixing two bugs with one patch ;) |
| 16:03 | jcamins | *in TX |
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| 16:14 | drojf | so, what's a test plan for a line missing in sysprefs.sql that nobody realized for two years? |
| 16:16 | jcamins | drojf: run new installation, check if you can change the syspref, and if you can, it passes? |
| 16:18 | drojf | oh look, starting a second VM with the same IP as the first is a bad idea. who would have imagined that. |
| 16:18 | jcamins | Heh. |
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| 16:22 | kf | drojf: i downloaded it a few minutes ago :) |
| 16:23 | jcamins: just pointing out we found a reason why it's bad :) and a missing one | |
| 16:23 | not to have the pref in the sql file that is | |
| 16:33 | drojf | jcamins: i can actually change the syspref without the patch |
| 16:33 | jcamins | Oh, then what's the problem? |
| 16:33 | kf | jcamins: the problem is that it's different then the one added with the update - all lower case |
| 16:33 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 16:34 | So, check whether it's capitalized properly. :) | |
| 16:34 | kf | and that's why the German installer won't update it |
| 16:34 | it's a weird bug | |
| 16:37 | drojf | it's getting more confusing by the minute |
| 16:38 | kf | which is a good moment to leave :) |
| 16:38 | bye all :) | |
| 16:38 | drojf | kf: when i try to add it manually in mysql, it does not care about case |
| 16:38 | yeah right, confuse me and run off :P | |
| 16:39 | kf | heh |
| 16:39 | you said it didn't work! | |
| 16:39 | :) | |
| 16:39 | I will be back soon | |
| 16:39 | drojf | well, it didn't. it is not there after installation |
| 16:39 | kf | ah right |
| 16:39 | drojf | that is the confusing part |
| 16:39 | kf | so maybe just add it? |
| 16:39 | drojf | does case matter for sql from the installer but not manually? |
| 16:39 | kf | hm it can#t be there because it's not loaded |
| 16:39 | I guess the problem was not case | |
| 16:40 | drojf | ah, right, its added afterwards |
| 16:40 | yes | |
| 16:40 | kf | for that |
| 16:40 | drojf | thanks for unconfusing me, you may leave |
| 16:40 | ;) | |
| 16:40 | kf | I confused you int he first place so it was only fair |
| 16:40 | drojf | :) |
| 16:40 | kf | guess the lc/uc doesn't matter much, but it's not really nice |
| 16:42 | drojf | then fix it, it's wrong in your patch :P |
| 16:47 | bug 10103 | |
| 16:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10103 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , UniqueItemFields is missing from sysprefs.sql |
| 16:48 | jcamins | Regarding khall's e-mail... is that really a feature Koha doesn't have? |
| 16:49 | oleonard | jcamins: There's no way to renew something by simply scanning the barcode. Renewals have to go through a patron screen. |
| 16:49 | khall | it's a school that wants it. Each class just puts all the books for renewal in a bin, and the bin does to the library. So many difference items checked out to different students need to be renewed, and they don't know who they are checked out to off hand. |
| 16:50 | jcamins | That shocks me. |
| 16:50 | oleonard | jcamins: Did you think you just hadn't happened across it yet? :) |
| 16:50 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 16:50 | I rarely use circ. | |
| 16:50 | gmcharlt | sounds like a use case that other schools might want, though -- should be considered for master rather than a plugin, IMO |
| 16:51 | jcamins | Agreed. |
| 16:51 | I was just checking whether it was true we couldn't do it before saying so. | |
| 16:51 | (not that I doubted khall, but it's kind of hard to believe) | |
| 16:52 | oleonard | It's much easier public libraries too, to be able to be handed a book and renew it without having to ask for the patron's card. |
| 16:52 | drojf | i'm pretty sure german school libraries would use it. if they'd finally start using koha |
| 16:53 | jcamins | We used that at my undergrad institution. |
| 16:53 | drojf | i don't think you can renew anything without your card in public and university libraries though. at least in none i use |
| 16:53 | khall | if we wanted to go crazy we could have a 'renewal' tab by the 'checkout' and 'search' tabs in the header |
| 16:53 | jcamins | Professors would send a grad assistant with photocopies of the barcodes. |
| 16:54 | Actually, it may just have been one professor. | |
| 16:54 | drojf | lol |
| 16:54 | my work here is done | |
| 16:54 | * drojf | heads home |
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| 17:45 | tcohen | hmm, back from lunch, less productive I guess |
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| 18:08 | tcohen | connection refused connecting to debian.koha-community.org |
| 18:08 | jcamins | Works for me. |
| 18:11 | tcohen | yes, problems on our gw i guess |
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| 18:34 | oleonard | Working on the search results page: http://zivotdesign.com/zp/Koha[…]h-new-toolbar.png |
| 18:35 | I'm trying a new "toolbar" design for the search results like the one I did for lists, where controls are activated after you make a selection | |
| 18:36 | That lets me separate those controls from the highlight/unhighlight link and the sort form, giving more space for everything | |
| 18:36 | But "unhighlight" looks pretty lonely up there. | |
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| 18:42 | jcamins | oleonard: nice! But you're right. |
| 18:42 | * cait | waves |
| 18:44 | jcamins | oleonard: what about adding that to the toolbar at the top? |
| 18:44 | oleonard | I don't understand |
| 18:46 | jcamins | oleonard: the black bar at the top- could you add a highlight/unhighlight toggle there instead of floating in the middle of the page? |
| 18:46 | oleonard | I don't think that would make sense--Highlighting is only happening within the table of search results |
| 18:46 | jcamins | Oh, true. |
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| 19:01 | oleonard | I've got the Cart and Lists buttons working too: http://zivotdesign.com/zp/Koha[…]art-indicator.png |
| 19:03 | jcamins | oleonard++ |
| 19:03 | libsysguy | looks good man |
| 19:04 | tcohen | yeah, really good |
| 19:20 | jcamins | Hehe. I just cataloged two 5-1/4" floppies and their user manual. |
| 19:21 | oleonard | Radical. |
| 19:21 | Did you flop them, just for fun? | |
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| 19:26 | jcamins | oleonard: I did not. |
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| 19:33 | rangi | Morning |
| 19:33 | wahanui | i heard Morning was a state of cat |
| 19:34 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
| 19:35 | * cait | waves |
| 19:39 | rangi | What's new? |
| 19:39 | cait | in eight hours? not much :) |
| 19:41 | * oleonard | wonders if anyone has strong feelings about CSS rule organization |
| 19:42 | rangi | Nope |
| 19:44 | gmcharlt | oleonard: my only feeling: having fewer of them would be good |
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| 19:45 | rangi | W |
| 19:45 | oleonard | gmcharlt: My method right now is to only copy styles from the current stylesheet as they are needed, so hopefully it will be trimmed down. |
| 19:45 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 19:45 | gmcharlt | oleonard++ |
| 19:45 | rangi | ould one of the frameworks be useful? |
| 19:46 | I forget all the things the design team tell mr | |
| 19:46 | jcamins | I've been using LESS, and in turns out it _does_ make it easier. |
| 19:46 | rangi | Me even |
| 19:46 | Ah yeah that was one | |
| 19:46 | jcamins | Color me surprised. |
| 19:46 | mtompset | What colour is suprised? ;) |
| 19:47 | oleonard | I'd love to be able to ship Koha with minified versions of our CSS, and LESS would help us do that |
| 19:47 | We'd have to get everyone on board though | |
| 19:47 | jcamins | mtompset: with me? Kind of an off-white grayish color. |
| 19:47 | Just like everything else. :P | |
| 19:47 | mtompset | minified? You mean one giant line? |
| 19:48 | jcamins | Hopefully not-so-giant. |
| 19:48 | oleonard | mtompset: If we used LESS we could include both a minified and non-minified version of the CSS but only link to the minified version |
| 19:48 | mtompset | But \n's are so irrelevant to CSS. ;) |
| 19:48 | jcamins | mtompset: exactly. One character fewer per line. |
| 19:49 | oleonard | I'm not sure it makes much of a difference if the server is gzipping |
| 19:49 | mtompset | Which means one giant line. ;) |
| 19:49 | jcamins | mtompset: one line, but hopefully not a giant one. ;) |
| 19:49 | rangi | My stop brb |
| 19:49 | oleonard | Note that the current main OPAC css file is almost 3000 lines long |
| 19:49 | mtompset | less minifies? |
| 19:50 | oleonard | Doesn't it include that option? |
| 19:50 | * oleonard | could be wrong |
| 19:50 | cait | brb |
| 19:50 | jcamins | If you add -c in the command line. |
| 19:50 | It does. | |
| 19:51 | mtompset | -c? That's --clear-screen, isn't it? |
| 19:52 | jcamins | -x sorry |
| 19:52 | Or --yui-compress, though I don't know exactly what that does. | |
| 19:53 | rangi | Oh meeting in an hour? |
| 19:54 | jcamins | I thought 7 minutes, but maybe. |
| 19:55 | druthb | o/ |
| 19:57 | drojf | http://www.timeanddate.com/wor[…]0130423T14&p1=599 ? |
| 19:57 | jcamins | So, yeah, hour. |
| 19:57 | mtompset | and 3 minutes. :P |
| 19:57 | jcamins | Right. |
| 19:59 | rangi | :) |
| 19:59 | hi druthb | |
| 20:00 | druthb | hi, rangi! :D |
| 20:00 | jcamins | cait: drojf: Why doesn't Kochbuchverlag have an umlaut? |
| 20:01 | drojf | where would you put the umlaut? :) |
| 20:01 | oleonard | Everywhere! |
| 20:01 | wahanui | i think everywhere is a suburb |
| 20:01 | drojf | hehe |
| 20:01 | druthb | drojf++ |
| 20:02 | jcamins | drojf: Köchbuchverlag. |
| 20:02 | Every other word to do with kitchens has an umlaut in the first syllable. | |
| 20:02 | druthb | @quote add "jcamins: Why doesn't Kochbuchverlag have an umlaut?" "drojf: where would you put the umlaut? :)" "oleonard: Everywhere!" |
| 20:02 | huginn | druthb: The operation succeeded. Quote #242 added. |
| 20:03 | * druthb | whistles innocently |
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| 20:03 | druthb | @quote search umlaut |
| 20:03 | huginn | druthb: 1 found: #242: "jcamins: Why doesn't Kochbuchverlag have an..." |
| 20:03 | druthb | @quote random |
| 20:03 | huginn | druthb: Quote #164: "<sekjal> word of advice to folks: take an aspirin before reading C4/Overdues.pm" (added by wizzyrea at 09:08 PM, November 14, 2011) |
| 20:03 | drojf | jcamins: 'kochen' means cooking. a 'koch' is a cook. the plural actually has an umlaut. 'die köche' - the cooks. the 'koch' in 'kochbuch' comes from the verb though |
| 20:04 | and what do you mean by "Every other word to do with kitchens has an umlaut in the first syllable."? :D | |
| 20:04 | mtompset | His sample data was too small? :) |
| 20:04 | jcamins | drojf: Der Küche, and there were several compound words with Küche- |
| 20:04 | drojf | lol. hi mtompset |
| 20:05 | mtompset | Greetings, drojf druthb oleonard jcamins rangi gmcharlt. :) |
| 20:05 | druthb | hi, mtompset! :) |
| 20:06 | drojf | jcamins: die küche ;) yeah the compounds have küchen-* too. but do you have other kitchen-related words with umlaut? |
| 20:06 | back- (bake-/baking-) also does not get one | |
| 20:06 | jcamins | drojf: no, just types of kitchens. |
| 20:06 | drojf | lol |
| 20:07 | * mtompset | grins, "I was right! Small sample size." |
| 20:07 | jcamins | But this is the first cookbook in German which had an example of a non-umlauted kitcheny word. |
| 20:07 | drojf | :) |
| 20:07 | cait | jcamins: and you say I have weird data.... |
| 20:07 | * mtompset | laughs and high fives cait. |
| 20:08 | mtompset | Greetings, cait. :) |
| 20:08 | jcamins | cait: What? It's a pile of cookbooks. |
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| 20:11 | alohabot | Hi mib_ec04hs, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
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| 20:13 | cait | eythian: ping |
| 20:13 | drojf | that's a stupid time for forced disconnect |
| 20:14 | cait | wb drojf |
| 20:16 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 20:20 | * magnuse | has heard of heavy metal umlaut, but not kitchen umlaut |
| 20:21 | rambutan | should hugelkultur have an umlaut in German? |
| 20:21 | cait | I guess it could |
| 20:21 | hügelkultur | |
| 20:21 | just not sure what it is :) | |
| 20:21 | rambutan | http://www.richsoil.com/hugelkultur/ |
| 20:22 | cait | aah |
| 20:22 | hügel = hills | |
| 20:22 | magnuse | in norwegian "hyggelig" = nice, friendly, cozy |
| 20:22 | so a friendly cilture? | |
| 20:25 | * druthb | tried to change her nick to drüthb, but the server doesn't like that. Guess rambütan is out of luck, too. |
| 20:26 | magnuse | gah! |
| 20:26 | druthb | :P |
| 20:27 | rambutan | druthb: /nick rambütan |
| 20:27 | oops | |
| 20:27 | * druthb | hands out heavy-metal umlauts. |
| 20:27 | rambutan | seems to just >/dev/null |
| 20:27 | jcamins | Aww. I wanted an umlaut in my nick! |
| 20:27 | druthb | I got an error back from the server when I tried it. Illegal char. |
| 20:28 | magnuse | i get nothing |
| 20:28 | druthb | jcämins :P |
| 20:28 | jcamins | Mibbit tells me I need a new nick. |
| 20:29 | druthb | Is it more-metal to umlaut the I, which is less-likely in the wild? |
| 20:29 | jcamïns… hm | |
| 20:29 | * mtompset | looks away and looks back and laughs at druthb's umlaut-izing of jcamins. :) |
| 20:29 | magnuse | Queensrÿche? |
| 20:30 | druthb | mtömpset ? |
| 20:30 | jcamins | That character doesn't render for me. |
| 20:30 | magnuse | ï does not *look* heavy to me... |
| 20:30 | cait | cäit |
| 20:30 | jcamins | magnuse: what did you type? |
| 20:30 | magnuse | i with two dots |
| 20:30 | jcamins | Like this: ï |
| 20:30 | ? | |
| 20:30 | magnuse | umlaut-i |
| 20:30 | druthb | Queensrÿche |
| 20:30 | magnuse | yup |
| 20:30 | mtompset | "mtömpset Erroneous Nickname" -- sorry, druthb. :P |
| 20:30 | jcamins | I wonder why when you typed it it did not work. |
| 20:30 | (on my screen) | |
| 20:31 | druthb | yeah, composed chars just don't work as nicks. |
| 20:31 | not unicode-compliant. | |
| 20:31 | cait | discriminating against umlauts? tsk |
| 20:31 | mtompset | I agree with you, cait. They are so ascii-ist. ;) |
| 20:31 | druthb | yes! |
| 20:31 | magnuse | mägnüse |
| 20:32 | druthb | oooh.. Magnus is more metal than we are. *two* umlauts! |
| 20:32 | magnuse | moahaha! |
| 20:32 | mtompset | Come on, if you are going to umlaut two vowels, why not all of them, magnuse? :P |
| 20:32 | magnuse | *and* i hail from the homeland of black metal... |
| 20:32 | mtompset: oops, sorry it slipped... | |
| 20:33 | drojf | hail seitan! |
| 20:33 | cait | that not tofu stuff? |
| 20:33 | druthb | http://www.questionablecontent[…]iew.php?comic=666 |
| 20:34 | magnuse | "A "second wave" arose in the early 1990s, spearheaded by Norwegian bands such as Mayhem, Burzum, Darkthrone, Immortal and Emperor. The early Norwegian black metal scene developed the style of their forebears into a distinct genre. Norwegian-inspired black metal scenes emerged throughout Europe and North America" (Wikipedia) |
| 20:34 | drojf | cait: gluten :D |
| 20:35 | magnuse | http://veganblackmetalchef.com/ ? |
| 20:36 | oops, did i scare khall_away away? | |
| 20:36 | khall_away | nope, I'm just taking off for the day! Take care everyone! |
| 20:36 | magnuse | hehe, have fun khall_away! |
| 20:37 | drojf | magnuse: yes! |
| 20:38 | magnuse | yes what? |
| 20:38 | jcamins | The only way to cook seitan. |
| 20:40 | magnuse | is that a fish you can buy in the chinese market? |
| 20:40 | drojf | magnuse: yes, veganblackmetalchef.com |
| 20:41 | jcamins | magnuse: no, it's processed gluten. |
| 20:41 | trea | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeZlih4DDNg |
| 20:41 | cut the tofu, turn the plate. | |
| 20:42 | jcamins | Add the srirachaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 20:43 | rangi | :) |
| 20:44 | https://torrentfreak.com/bitto[…]es-public-130423/ | |
| 20:45 | i still like git annex assistant better, but this is still better than dropbox | |
| 20:45 | hen | |
| 20:45 | magnuse | too bad this is not subtitled: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtBHJ0ZMDr4 italian black metal fans studying norwegian at university :-) |
| 20:45 | rangi | heh too |
| 20:46 | * magnuse | should get around to checking out git annex |
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| 20:50 | wizzyrea left #koha | |
| 20:50 | * magnuse | scares himself off to bed |
| 20:51 | gmcharlt | git-annex++ |
| 20:52 | nancyk joined #koha | |
| 20:53 | rangi | hiya nancyk |
| 20:53 | cait | hi nancyk |
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| 20:54 | nancyk | hi cait |
| 20:54 | and rangi | |
| 20:58 | 2 minutes | |
| 20:58 | William joined #koha | |
| 21:00 | nancyk | #Startmeeting - KohaCon 13 Planning Meeting |
| 21:00 | #topic - Introductions | |
| 21:00 | nancyk KohaCon13 chair | |
| 21:00 | jcamins | @botsnack test |
| 21:00 | huginn | jcamins: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 21:01 | jcamins | nancyk: looks like huginn didn't recognize the startmeeting. Perhaps all lowercase? |
| 21:01 | nancyk | #startmeeting - KohaCon 13 Planning meeting April 23 |
| 21:01 | huginn | Meeting started Tue Apr 23 21:01:53 2013 UTC. The chair is nancyk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 21:01 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 21:01 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: - KohaCon 13 Planning meeting April 23) | |
| 21:01 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to '__kohacon_13_planning_meeting_april_23' |
| 21:02 | nancyk | thanks |
| 21:02 | William | Hello Jcamis will this help http://www.brainyquote.com/quo[…]ywords/pilot.html |
| 21:02 | nancyk | #topic - Registration and program update |
| 21:02 | Topic for #koha is now - Registration and program update (Meeting topic: - KohaCon 13 Planning meeting April 23) | |
| 21:03 | jcamins | William: I just wanted to know if huginn was working. No need for actual quotes. :) |
| 21:03 | William | OH apologies :) |
| 21:03 | nancyk | We currently have 38 people registered, and 19 programs proposed, and an opening speaker. |
| 21:03 | rangi | hmm |
| 21:03 | oh cool | |
| 21:03 | jcamins | How many slots are there to fill? |
| 21:04 | nancyk | Some people have indicated they will be bringing others, but they have not yet registered. |
| 21:04 | rangi | 38 before a programme is published is a really good number |
| 21:04 | nancyk | Subjects covered will be training, 14 years of the Koha project, hardware requirements for standard, and virtual servers, access all library materials at one time with VuFind, round table discussions, using telephone notification in Koha, Koha live USB for LIS teaching purposes |
| 21:04 | And Libki demo, plug-ins, access all library materials at one time with DSpace, how to test and sign off on bugs, history of Koha, community organization, Koha use cases, new web services and Drupal integration, a Nevada cultural moment, serials management on a shoestring, open source ERms and GoKB | |
| 21:05 | rangi | those all sound good |
| 21:05 | cait | yep |
| 21:05 | nancyk | We still need someone to present newbie resources, discussion on future development of Koha’s multi-language capabilities. |
| 21:05 | The April 15 deadline was to get people to submit their programs. We can still take more. | |
| 21:06 | rangi | cool |
| 21:06 | nancyk | #topic - Programs group needs to meet |
| 21:06 | Topic for #koha is now - Programs group needs to meet (Meeting topic: - KohaCon 13 Planning meeting April 23) | |
| 21:06 | rangi | if you want to do a 'deadline extended' type email im happy to send it forward it far and wide |
| 21:06 | nancyk | ok rangi |
| 21:07 | jcamins | About how many sessions would you estimate there is time for on the schedule? |
| 21:07 | cait | maybe we could ask some poeple for presentations? |
| 21:07 | I would think one on acq would be cool to go with the serials one | |
| 21:07 | rangi | that is a good idea cait |
| 21:07 | nancyk | I will meet with Nicole soon to get an idea of the program and it's holes. |
| 21:07 | rangi | nancyk: will we be breaking for morning tea, lunch and afternoon tea? |
| 21:08 | cait | and I think oleonard wnated to do something maybe? |
| 21:08 | having him talk about the new opac design might be nice | |
| 21:08 | nancyk | Of course |
| 21:08 | rangi | so 4 sessions, of around 1.5 - 2 hours each |
| 21:08 | * 3 | |
| 21:08 | nancyk | we are planning on lots of great topics and breaks. |
| 21:09 | rangi | need 12 sessions worth |
| 21:09 | so thats about 30ish | |
| 21:09 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 21:09 | rangi | less if some ppl do 1+ slots |
| 21:09 | like a panel might take 1.5 hours | |
| 21:09 | jcamins | Just trying to get a sense of whether there was a desperate need for more talks. |
| 21:09 | rangi | id say we need around 5-10 more at a total guestimate |
| 21:10 | nancyk | I think we will be doing fine with just a few additions, and we have the round table discussions that could be extended. |
| 21:10 | * gmcharlt | can fill in another slot if needed |
| 21:10 | jcamins | But not desperately. Thanks. |
| 21:10 | rangi | yay! |
| 21:10 | * rangi | is nosey who the keynote is |
| 21:10 | nancyk | #topic Opening speaker |
| 21:10 | Topic for #koha is now Opening speaker (Meeting topic: - KohaCon 13 Planning meeting April 23) | |
| 21:10 | cait | gmcharlt: maybe update on next version? |
| 21:11 | nancyk | Galen Charlton, next RM, on where Koha is headed, and something inspirational! |
| 21:11 | rangi | sweet |
| 21:11 | jcamins | cait: so much for that. ;) |
| 21:11 | It's already taken. | |
| 21:11 | nancyk | #topic Mistress of Ceremonies |
| 21:11 | Topic for #koha is now Mistress of Ceremonies (Meeting topic: - KohaCon 13 Planning meeting April 23) | |
| 21:12 | cait | :) |
| 21:12 | nancyk | Megan Conelly, our local gal |
| 21:13 | #topic - Donations and Sponsorships | |
| 21:13 | Topic for #koha is now - Donations and Sponsorships (Meeting topic: - KohaCon 13 Planning meeting April 23) | |
| 21:13 | rangi | excellent |
| 21:13 | nancyk | We are getting ready to send out sponsorship invitations to vendors. They will be invited to sponsor food for our break times, buses for our trips on Saturday, or just to give money. |
| 21:13 | Sponsors will be acknowledged before and during the conference. We will be asking local restaurants for discounts. More information will be on the KohaCon13 web site soon. | |
| 21:13 | rangi | awesomesauce |
| 21:14 | gmcharlt | they serve that in Reno? Wow! |
| 21:14 | nancyk | is that a real word? |
| 21:14 | rangi | it is now |
| 21:14 | jcamins | It is on #koha. |
| 21:14 | nancyk | #topic - Road Trip |
| 21:14 | Topic for #koha is now - Road Trip (Meeting topic: - KohaCon 13 Planning meeting April 23) | |
| 21:14 | William | reno has wicked awesomesauce |
| 21:14 | * wizzyrea | pours the awesomesauce all over Kohacon, and proclaims it "good" |
| 21:15 | cait | I would say that sounds like it#s going to be a great event :) |
| 21:15 | nancyk | We are investigating Tahoe, Squaw Valley, Virginia City, University of Nevada, Reno Makerspace. Special event NLA President’s reception: Beer, wine and food at the Downtown Reno library branch Thursday night. Cost most likely $20 U.S. dollars, and a directly north from the Atlantis via short bus ride. |
| 21:15 | rangi | ohh those all sound good |
| 21:15 | nancyk | #topic - Vendor requests |
| 21:15 | Topic for #koha is now - Vendor requests (Meeting topic: - KohaCon 13 Planning meeting April 23) | |
| 21:16 | nancyk | I forgot what this was to be about |
| 21:16 | cait | :) |
| 21:16 | nancyk | But -Any vendors requesting booth space at KohaCon13, are being directed to our NLA (Nevada Library Association) friends who will be just next door. Our attendees will be welcome to visit NLA vendors if they desire. |
| 21:16 | rangi | cool |
| 21:17 | gmcharlt | will KohaCon folks be able to access the NLA meeting (or its exhibits space, at least), free of charge? |
| 21:17 | nancyk | #topic - What have we forgotten? |
| 21:17 | Topic for #koha is now - What have we forgotten? (Meeting topic: - KohaCon 13 Planning meeting April 23) | |
| 21:17 | rangi | at the last few kohacons, we've had a table where vendors can put material .. all on the same table, but no boothy salesy stuff |
| 21:17 | i think that worked ok? | |
| 21:17 | nancyk | exhibit space is free, conference not. |
| 21:17 | gmcharlt | nancyk: thanks |
| 21:17 | cait | having them next door sounds like a good solution to me :) |
| 21:18 | jcamins | Anyway, our talks will be cooler so no one will want to go to them anyway. :) |
| 21:18 | rangi | you'd have to be mad to be at a booth and miss the talks |
| 21:18 | exactly! | |
| 21:18 | cait | we can still have a table I guess? can put where to find them next door there too |
| 21:18 | nancyk | next up - A digital flier will be sent to Library organizations, and anyone who requests one. |
| 21:19 | rangi | whats going to be in that? |
| 21:20 | nancyk | links to info about Koha, and the conference. This will be for interested libraries. |
| 21:20 | rangi | ah righto |
| 21:21 | nancyk | We want to have non users come too |
| 21:21 | rangi | yup |
| 21:21 | its usually around 50/50 | |
| 21:21 | nancyk | anything else? |
| 21:21 | wahanui | anything else is, like, a guess |
| 21:21 | cait | nancyk: sounds all well planned out :) |
| 21:21 | nancyk | wow, it's almost like I know what I'm doing! |
| 21:22 | #topic - how about next meeting will be May 23rd at 22 UTC? | |
| 21:22 | Topic for #koha is now - how about next meeting will be May 23rd at 22 UTC? (Meeting topic: - KohaCon 13 Planning meeting April 23) | |
| 21:23 | nancyk | thanks for attending and giving feedback today. |
| 21:23 | cait | sounds good to me :) |
| 21:23 | nancyk++ | |
| 21:23 | jcamins | The day after the release! |
| 21:23 | nancyk | #endmeeting |
| 21:23 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 7 May 2013 at 02:00 UTC | |
| 21:23 | huginn | Meeting ended Tue Apr 23 21:23:53 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 21:23 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-04-23-21.01.html | |
| 21:23 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]3-04-23-21.01.txt | |
| 21:23 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]23-21.01.log.html | |
| 21:24 | cait | night all :) |
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| 22:11 | mtompset | Have a great day (24 hour period), everyone! :) |
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| 22:43 | wizzyrea | very quiet in here |
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| 22:49 | tcohen | good evening |
| 22:49 | rangi | hi tcohen |
| 22:49 | eythian | hi |
| 22:49 | wahanui | salut, eythian |
| 22:50 | tcohen | been playing a bit with the scripts eythian |
| 22:50 | eythian | cool |
| 22:51 | tcohen | i'm having fun with the tab-completion thing |
| 22:51 | eythian | sweet :) |
| 22:55 | tcohen | are there any important koha-create bugs around? |
| 22:55 | besides the rollback issue? | |
| 22:58 | eythian | hmm, we'd like to extend it to allow DOM indexing to be configured from it, though that's more than just koha-create really. |
| 22:59 | I don't know of any off the top of my head, though that doesn't mean it's not there. | |
| 22:59 | tcohen | memcached support should be quite easy to implement |
| 23:00 | anyway, I refered to bugs that have patches waiting to be pushed actually | |
| 23:03 | tell me eythian, what is needed for the DOM bug? | |
| 23:03 | is it difficult to support it? | |
| 23:04 | i can trade work for *some* bug being pushed | |
| 23:04 | eythian | ah right. I don't think it'd be too hard, it'd require some changes to the koha-conf.xml template mostly, allowing parts to be switched on and off to let the config be DOM or GRS. |
| 23:04 | heh | |
| 23:05 | I'm hoping to get a couple of things checked out this morning, but can't do much: have a big thing to write today that has a tight deadline | |
| 23:05 | tcohen | (one we really need for using 3.12 packages ;)) |
| 23:05 | eythian | which one is that? |
| 23:05 | tcohen | oh, I see |
| 23:05 | 8773 | |
| 23:07 | eythian | I'll see if I can have a look through that today. |
| 23:07 | if it's quick, I can possibly get it sorted soon. | |
| 23:08 | tcohen | the relevant part is that the code that launches it is commented out |
| 23:09 | its there for someone that'd like to test it | |
| 23:09 | drnoe_away left #koha | |
| 23:09 | tcohen | if we happen to include a new indexer, we can change it in one place and should work too |
| 23:10 | (we will actually use it, and patch it if something appears) | |
| 23:10 | oh, gotta run: coooking and koha is not a good mixture | |
| 23:11 | eythian | heh |
| 23:11 | tcohen | bbl |
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| 23:23 | jcamins | What do you mean? |
| 23:23 | Cooking and Koha is a great mixture! | |
| 23:24 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 23:29 | melia | rangi around? |
| 23:30 | rangi | yup |
| 23:30 | melia | well hello sir. how's it going? |
| 23:31 | rangi | hehe not too bad, hows things with you? |
| 23:31 | melia | I have been sick but am back in the game today! |
| 23:32 | I was looking for the 3.10.5 release and don't see it. not out yet? (sorry if hundreds of other people have already asked you that questions!) | |
| 23:32 | rangi | nope not out yet, waiting on the po files before i can release |
| 23:32 | melia | ah the po files |
| 23:32 | okey doke. thanks! | |
| 23:32 | rangi | the release notes are up in git though |
| 23:32 | if you want to read them | |
| 23:33 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ccbcb5e22f1543948 | |
| 23:33 | dcook | mtj: The boss took a look at that MARC::Moose::Formater::UnimarcToMarc21 module last night. He said it did a good job of the conversion overall, but lost the 942/952/999 fields :/ |
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| 23:34 | eythian | hello papa |
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| 23:59 | dcook | I don't suppose there are any UNIMARC Koha users up at this ridiculously late hour? :) |
| 23:59 | jcamins | MARC::Moose::Formatter::UnimarcToMarc21? |
| 23:59 | What a name! | |
| 23:59 | wahanui | a name is weird too? |
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