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00:21 | jcamins | dcook: just to be different, I am _not_ talking about cooking fancy meals today. |
00:21 | dcook | hehe |
00:21 | jcamins | We're having leftovers, and I'm making lemon verbena chocolate oatmeal no-bake cookies. |
00:21 | dcook | ... |
00:21 | * dcook | 's stomach gurgles |
00:22 | jcamins | Hehe. |
00:22 | My quest for entertainment in the cookie baking department is leading in some very interesting directions, I must say. | |
00:23 | dcook | I would certainly agree. Verbena? |
00:23 | jcamins | Lemon verbena. |
00:24 | It's an herb. | |
00:24 | Actually... I'm not sure if it's an herb. | |
00:24 | It is a plant, anyway. | |
00:24 | But you dry out the leaves and then steep them in hot water to make a delicious and soothing infusion. | |
00:25 | I decided I wanted to do no-bake cookies. | |
00:25 | But I also wanted to do something different. | |
00:25 | dcook | Different and no-bake are always good ideas |
00:25 | * dcook | is thinking that maybe an early lunch is a good idea... |
00:25 | jcamins | Which led exactly where you might expect. |
00:26 | First I thought about possible additions. | |
00:26 | Coconut, nuts, etc. | |
00:26 | But those have all been done. | |
00:26 | And I'm fresh out of avocado. | |
00:26 | Then I thought about alcoholic flavorings. | |
00:26 | But other than peppermint schnapps, the only liquor I have on hand is tia maria, which is caffienated. | |
00:27 | Caffeinated cookies at this time of night seemed like a bad idea. | |
00:27 | So I started thinking about what would make cookies relaxing. | |
00:28 | And from there lemon verbena was the obvious thing. | |
00:28 | Naturally. | |
00:28 | dcook | Naturally |
00:29 | jcamins | And I think I'll use rose water instead of vanilla. |
00:29 | dcook | You do have a penchant for the unique, eh? |
00:29 | But...vanilla! | |
00:29 | * dcook | might have a deep-seeded love of vanilla |
00:29 | jcamins | Oh, vanilla is definitely delicious. |
00:30 | But the lemon verbena might need a bit more "flower" to back it up. | |
00:30 | dcook | Yeah, I was looking back and thinking that vanilla would be odd in this case |
00:31 | jcamins | Maybe even odder than lemon verbena! |
00:31 | ... or maybe not. | |
00:32 | dcook | Ah right and you have chocolate.. |
00:32 | I'm digging the idea of lemon verbena chocolate oatmeal.. | |
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00:33 | dcook | I might also have a deep-seeded love of oatmeal...and chocolate |
00:33 | Possibly just baked goods in general | |
00:33 | So I'm going to lay this on the table... | |
00:33 | What are the chances of us getting Jared cookies at Kohacon13? | |
00:34 | jcamins | Probably pretty good. |
00:34 | I tend to be accompanied by baked goods, as a general rule. | |
00:35 | dcook | :D |
00:36 | While I certainly do enjoy hearing about the cookies, I can't wait to try some! | |
00:36 | ... | |
00:36 | I feel like that could be taken out of context... | |
00:36 | As could that... | |
00:39 | While I generally extremely dislike statistics, what the Australian Bureau of Statistics came up with is kind of cool: http://tinyurl.com/bv38omc | |
00:40 | 46% of Australians aged over 18 years visited a library in 2006 | |
00:41 | While I doubt the accuracy of statistics, especially when they aren't explicit in their methodology, I'm willing to just ^_^ at that | |
00:42 | Of course, 96 would be better than 46, but...for having a public library system which leaves much to be desired, that might not be too bad.. | |
00:47 | jcamins | Actually, 46% sounds really good to me. |
00:49 | dcook | 10.12 million out of 22 million |
00:49 | Reminds me that I really need to get a library card from my local library... | |
00:49 | jcamins | I hate the very end of the bucket of sugar/flour. |
00:49 | dcook | No French books, but maybe I could pick up Italian.. |
00:49 | In terms of getting it out or the fact that there is none left? | |
00:49 | jcamins | You have all the little bits of bay leaves that broke. |
00:52 | dcook | I have never heard of that practice before now. |
00:56 | jcamins | It's because I buy my flour and sugar in bulk. |
00:57 | When I have 30lbs of flour, the possibility of moths is *really* appalling. | |
00:57 | So I put bay leaves in the flour and sugar. | |
00:57 | dcook | Intriguing! |
00:57 | Off the top of my head, the folks I know with bulk flour and sugar make do just using air-tight containers | |
00:57 | Mind you, they're very large containers | |
00:58 | Mind you, thanks to being winter 6-8 months of the year, I've never really encountered insect issues in Saskatchewan | |
00:58 | I say mind you too much... | |
01:00 | jcamins | Hehe. |
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01:43 | mtj | hi all, has anyone else bumped into bug 9084 |
01:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9084 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Dates in notices should be formatted according to dateformat system preference |
01:44 | mtj | … and/or does anyone have a patch or workaround, for it? |
01:46 | dcook | Mmm, sounds familiar |
01:46 | mtj | i think people probably want those dates/timestamps pretty-formatted, as default? |
01:47 | rather than 'awesome book is due at 2013-04-22 23:59:00' | |
01:48 | dcook | pretty and in accordance to their syspref |
01:48 | jcamins | mtj: yeah, according to the region. |
01:48 | dcook | I notice Australians don't like dealing with American dates |
01:49 | mtj | hmmm, sounds like a patch that might get accepted... |
01:52 | dcook | :D |
01:52 | * dcook | nods |
01:52 | dcook | I'd test it for sure |
01:52 | A bit low on the list of ones to write myself though.. | |
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01:55 | eythian | hello papa |
01:56 | mtj | dcook, ok cool, i might have a little poke at it now... |
01:57 | heya eythian, papa | |
01:58 | dcook | mtj++ |
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04:33 | dcook | Does anyone know if there has been work to add Z39.50 search/import for authorities as well as biblios? |
04:35 | eythian | not that I'm aware of |
04:39 | dcook | That's what I was thinking. Thanks, eythian :) |
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04:48 | kohaUser_SL | hi |
04:48 | wizzyrea | hiyas |
04:49 | kohaUser_SL | i would like to know whether Koha can be installed in Windows environment |
04:49 | ? | |
04:50 | wizzyrea | natively? no. |
04:50 | inside some kind of virtual machine that runs on top of windows, yes. | |
04:51 | kohaUser_SL | ah is it.. |
04:52 | that means i have to install a Linux in a virtual machine and install Koha on there right | |
04:52 | ? | |
04:52 | eythian | Yes |
04:52 | kohaUser_SL | what is the version of linux i have to use? |
04:52 | eythian | Debian is recommended |
04:53 | kohaUser_SL | hmm |
04:53 | when i search in the internet i found this link | |
04:53 | http://www.koha.rwjr.com/ | |
04:54 | which says it has a Koha package for windows | |
04:54 | eythian | Koha 2.2 is very, very old and strongly not recommended. |
04:55 | kohaUser_SL | hmm |
04:55 | ok :) | |
04:55 | thanks a lot for the information | |
04:55 | eythian | no worries |
04:55 | kohaUser_SL | I'm planinng to install this software in a Major public library in Sri Lanka |
04:55 | * cait | waves |
04:56 | eythian | ah, very cool. In that case, I'd strongly suggest a modern Koha version (3.10 or so) and a good Linux server. |
04:56 | hi cait | |
04:56 | wahanui: cait | |
04:56 | wahanui | cait is qam, not your secretary |
04:56 | eythian | wahanui: cait |
04:56 | wahanui | go back to bed, cait. |
04:56 | cait | lol |
04:56 | hi eythian :) | |
04:57 | kohaUser_SL | hmm what so u mean by a good linux server? |
04:57 | eythian | one with good CPUs and enough RAM. |
04:57 | The better your server, the faster Koha will run, in general. | |
04:58 | kohaUser_SL | what are the recomended hardware configuration for the server |
04:58 | ? | |
04:58 | Ram and processor? | |
04:58 | wizzyrea | depends on how busy the library is |
04:58 | eythian | it varies based on the library |
04:58 | kohaUser_SL | hmm |
04:59 | eythian | our small to medium sized libraries get away with ~4GB and 2 processors that are about 2.5-3GHz |
04:59 | if you're busy, you might want to increase that | |
05:00 | but on the other hand, you might have a budget, in which case that'd probably do fine | |
05:04 | kohaUser_SL | hm |
05:04 | okay | |
05:05 | is this chat 24x7 supported/ | |
05:05 | ? | |
05:05 | eythian | no |
05:06 | this is just an IRC channel, if there are people here they'll talk, but they aren't always around. | |
05:06 | kohaUser_SL | hmm are you guys Koha developers |
05:06 | ? | |
05:06 | eythian | many of the people in this channel are, yes |
05:06 | kohaUser_SL | which country are u from? |
05:07 | and this software? | |
05:07 | eythian | I'm in New Zealand. Koha is also originally from New Zealand, but now it's completely worldwide. |
05:08 | * cait | waves from germany |
05:08 | kohaUser_SL | :) |
05:08 | hello.. | |
05:08 | Im from Sri Lanka | |
05:10 | eythian | I would also recommend joining the Koha mailing lists to get information. |
05:12 | kohaUser_SL | ok |
05:12 | eythian | wahanui: mailing lists |
05:12 | wahanui | mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
05:12 | kohaUser_SL | whats the addres? |
05:12 | eythian | see that link |
05:12 | kohaUser_SL | sure |
05:12 | thanx | |
05:19 | dcook | @later tell bag Did anything ever come of make_spelling_suggest.pl? |
05:19 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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05:33 | dcook | @later tell jcamins Any idea what testsearch.pl is or why it's still around? |
05:33 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
05:54 | kohaUser_SL | hi |
05:55 | a anyone here | |
05:55 | ? | |
05:55 | i have a small question | |
05:55 | eythian | ask? |
05:55 | wahanui | Don't ask to ask, just ask. |
05:55 | eythian | although, I'm going right now. Someone may be here |
05:55 | kohaUser_SL | :) |
05:56 | mm i need to download Linux Debian and when I go to their site to download it has 8 DVDs | |
05:57 | to download | |
05:57 | do I have to download all of them? | |
05:57 | or is there any pakage less file size | |
05:57 | ? | |
05:57 | altogether there will be around 50 GB | |
05:58 | i need to download | |
06:03 | dcook | http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ |
06:03 | The first CD/DVD disk contains all the files necessary to install a standard Debian system. | |
06:03 | To avoid needless downloads, please do not download other CD or DVD image files unless you know that you need packages on them. | |
06:03 | Their words - not mine. Forgot quotation marks ;) | |
06:04 | kohaUser_SL | ahh great.. |
06:04 | :) | |
06:04 | so Koha will work on this Standard Debian system is it? | |
06:06 | dcook | I doubt it |
06:07 | But, if I'm not mistaken, the Debian packages provided by Koha should install any missing software | |
06:07 | I probably am mistaken now that I think about it... | |
06:07 | I think it detects and updates missing Perl dependencies but I'm not sure about other software | |
06:07 | That's where the Koha wiki docs come in handy though ;) | |
06:08 | I've installed Debian on a VM using the first CD/DVD from the Debian website, and installed Git from the Debian repositories, but that's about it so far | |
06:08 | kohaUser_SL | hmm |
06:08 | dcook | Debian will definitely have Perl already installed |
06:08 | Probably Apache as well | |
06:09 | Possibly Mysql, but I'm not sure | |
06:09 | Zebra might be missing? | |
06:09 | Git will be missing (if you want to do development) | |
06:09 | I suggest going one step at a time | |
06:09 | You'll find people here are most helpful when you have a specific problem that you've encountered and can't figure out on your own / from the documentation | |
06:14 | kohaUser_SL | hmm |
06:14 | oki | |
06:15 | im not much familiar with linux..ill give a try and come again if i encouter any issues | |
06:15 | thanks alot for the info\:) | |
06:16 | I downloaded Koha Latest | |
06:16 | VirtualBox | |
06:16 | wahanui | VirtualBox is good for that sort of thing |
06:17 | kohaUser_SL | and the Debian iso is being downloaded now |
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06:36 | cait | morgen drojf |
06:36 | drojf | moin cait |
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06:40 | cait | bbl |
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06:50 | reiveune | hello |
06:50 | * magnuse | waves |
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06:52 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
06:58 | magnuse | bonjour christophe_c and reiveune |
06:58 | reiveune | salut magnuse :) |
06:59 | Joubu | hello #koha |
07:00 | christophe_c | bonjour magnuse |
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07:18 | kf | good morning #koha |
07:18 | magnuse | kia ora kf |
07:18 | kf | hi magnuse |
07:18 | magnuse | it's official: no reno for me, i'm afraid |
07:18 | kf | oooh |
07:18 | at least I got to see you in marseille | |
07:18 | magnuse | yeah! |
07:19 | slides? | |
07:19 | wahanui | kf should be writing slides |
07:20 | kf | totally correct wahanui |
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07:24 | gaetan_B | hello |
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07:27 | kf | hi gaetan_B |
07:27 | how is kurdistan? | |
07:27 | @wunder Konstanz | |
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07:28 | gaetan_B | hallo kf :) Cludy / dusty today |
07:28 | @wunder Sulaimani | |
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07:28 | gaetan_B | :D can't believe it ! |
07:28 | @wunder Sulaymaniyah | |
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07:28 | gaetan_B | @wunder Baghdad |
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07:36 | zebil | hi there |
07:36 | is there anyone there to help me? | |
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07:37 | zebil | no one? |
07:37 | wahanui | no one is saying a word, soooooo |
07:38 | zebil | i think i should ask and if someone want to help... |
07:39 | there is something wrong in serial subscription module | |
07:39 | in test prediction | |
07:40 | if you have a monthly serial subscription everything is ok | |
07:41 | but if you have other type subscription, etc. bimonthly or 1/3 quarterly, prediction system is working not correctly | |
07:41 | or i am doing something wrong... | |
07:44 | magnuse | zebil: which version of koha are you using? |
07:46 | zebil | 3.10.04 |
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07:46 | zebil | also i tried that in other demo koha sites |
07:47 | magnuse | there is an enhancement suggested in this area: bug 7688 |
07:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7688 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Change subscriptions numbering pattern and frequencies |
07:48 | magnuse | that might be because there are known problems with the way things work now |
07:48 | but i'm afraid i'm not very familiar with how the subscription module works... | |
07:53 | zebil | hmm |
07:54 | kf | prediction patterns are not working right |
07:54 | if you have advanced patters | |
07:54 | maybefor others too | |
07:55 | I amhoping the dev above will fix it - but it's quite big and so didn't make it into 3.12 | |
07:56 | zebil | so this is a known bug |
07:57 | kf | I am not sure there is a specific bug report |
07:57 | it might be well worth filing a bug | |
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08:06 | zebil | but i know that poblem was exist in all versions in koha |
08:06 | why they don't fix it still! | |
08:24 | rangi | who is they? |
08:25 | drojf | liblime *hides* |
08:25 | rangi | fwiw i have a bunch of libraries using it without issues |
08:26 | drojf | hi rangi :) |
08:26 | rangi | hi drojf :) |
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08:35 | sher_jillnai | hello every body |
08:35 | i need your help please some one help me out | |
08:35 | its related to SIP | |
08:35 | rootubuntu:/usr/share/koha/lib/C4# perl -IC4/SIP/ -MILS /SIP?SIPServer.pm ?etc/ koha/SIPconfig.xml Can't open perl script "/SIP?SIPServer.pm": No such file or directory rootubuntu:/usr/share/koha/lib/C4# perl -IC4/SIP/ -MILS /SIP/SIPServer.pm | |
08:35 | hello | |
08:35 | wahanui | bidet, sher_jillnai |
08:36 | sher_jillnai | thanx wahanui |
08:36 | wahanui can u help me | |
08:36 | wahanui | sher_jillnai: sorry... |
08:37 | sher_jillnai | hello any body here i need some help for configuring SIP in Koha |
08:37 | magnuse | sher_jillnai: we heard you the first time |
08:37 | what is your actual problem? | |
08:38 | sher_jillnai | thnx wahanui |
08:38 | magnuse | shaunm: wahanui is a bot... |
08:38 | sher_jillnai | mahnuse |
08:39 | magnuse its my first time | |
08:39 | magnuse | welcome! |
08:39 | sher_jillnai | magnuse please come to pm |
08:40 | magnuse | nah, that's not a good idea |
08:40 | cjh | sher_jillnai: if you want to ask a question then please ask the channel |
08:40 | sher_jillnai | ok fine |
08:40 | magnuse | the way to do it is you describe your problem and if anyone can help you they will step forward |
08:40 | sher_jillnai | so i was saying that i want to configuring the SIP for koha |
08:42 | and the koha which i am using is version 3.10.04.000 and the perl version is 5.014002 | |
08:42 | as per the description i followed the steps for starting the SIP Server | |
08:44 | drojf | sher_jillnai: what description have you been using? |
08:44 | sher_jillnai | but after executing that command form lib directory i.e. rootubuntu:/usr/share/koha/lib# perl -IC4/SIP/ -MILS C4/SIP/SIPServer.pm /etc/koha/SIPconfig.xml it give me some sort of errors like unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at C4/Context.pm line 360. |
08:46 | cjh | you need to have KOHACONF set, KOHACONF=/etc/koha/sites/mysite/koha-conf.xml and then the rest of your command |
08:47 | you need to have KOHACONF set, KOHACONF=/etc/koha/sites/mysite/koha-conf.xml perl -IC4/SIP/ -MILS C4/SIP/SIPServer.pm /etc/koha/SIPconfig.xml | |
08:47 | eik, sorry bad copy and paste. | |
08:47 | KOHACONF=/etc/koha/sites/mysite/koha-conf.xml perl -IC4/SIP/ -MILS C4/SIP/SIPServer.pm /etc/koha/SIPconfig.xml | |
08:47 | there we are, but change 'mysite' to be the correct folder. | |
08:50 | sher_jillnai | ok let me try |
08:51 | cjh tn alot let me try and i will let u know | |
08:54 | cjh i tired but it gives me the same error | |
08:54 | rootubuntu:/usr/share/koha/lib# KOHACONF=/etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml perl -IC4/SIP/ -MILS C4/SIP/SIPServer.pm /etc/koha/SIPconfig.xml | |
08:54 | and the error is unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at C4/Context.pm line 360. | |
08:54 | Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at C4/Templates.pm line 208. | |
08:54 | Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at C4/Context.pm line 778. | |
08:55 | cjh | sorry that should be KOHA_CONF not KOHACONF, my bad. |
08:55 | sher_jillnai | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at C4/Auth.pm line 63. |
08:55 | cjh | KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml perl -IC4/SIP/ -MILS C4/SIP/SIPServer.pm /etc/koha/SIPconfig.xml |
08:55 | sher_jillnai | cjh ok let me try this |
08:57 | cjh now it give me the code of the SIPconfig.xml and also in the start it give me UNIVERSAL->import is deprecated and will be removed in a future perl at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/SIP/Sip/MsgType.p m line 22 | |
08:58 | cjh did u got my msg | |
08:58 | cjh i m totaly new here | |
08:59 | so please do not b fedup with me | |
08:59 | but from one week i m facing this problem | |
08:59 | now the last hope is you ppl | |
08:59 | cjh | I am not familiar with that output, but it looks like a warning only. Is SIP now running? |
09:07 | gaetan_B | is there a MARC21 field where you can put which writing system the document is written in ? (latin, cyrillic, arabic, and so on) |
09:07 | kf | hm probably |
09:08 | ther eis catalouging language somewhere I think | |
09:09 | * gaetan_B | is browsing furiously through the marc21 default framework |
09:09 | is having this special feeling someone can't help having when thinking about marc too much | |
09:10 | kf | try the 0 tab |
09:10 | @marc 041 | |
09:10 | huginn | kf: Codes for languages associated with an item when the language code in field 008/35-37 of the record is insufficient to convey full information. This includes records for multilingual items, items that involve translation, and items where the medium of communication is a sign language. The sources of the codes are: MARC Code List for Languages or other code lists such as ISO 639-1 (Codes for the (1 more message) |
09:10 | sher_jillnai | cjh i check in the service the SIP service not running and even i check in netstat the port 6001 is not running too but the 6010 is running but this is not the port in the SIPconfig.xml file |
09:10 | kf | maybe somehwere around there |
09:11 | sher_jillnai | cjh at the buttom of the code it give me this line too after excuting the command u recomend me Wed Apr 17 13:07:06 2013 -- startup -- procid:13784 |
09:12 | drojf | gaetan_B: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd546.html |
09:13 | cjh | sher_jillnai: that to me sounds like the SIP server has started and is running with the process id of 13764 |
09:13 | gaetan_B | drojf: thanks this seems to be it ! not normalized though, but that will do :) |
09:13 | ok i have to go again | |
09:13 | see you :) | |
09:13 | drojf | gaetan_B: i don't remember seeing a coded field for it |
09:14 | cjh | sher_jillnai: you can check if it is running by running 'ps --pid 13784' |
09:14 | time for me to go home, goodnight #koha | |
09:15 | sher_jillnai | cjh please |
09:15 | wahanui | somebody said cjh was just finishing off a report on the remaining issues with plack, which should help finish that work off |
09:15 | sher_jillnai | stay cjh |
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09:16 | vfernandes | hello :) |
09:16 | drojf | sher_jillnai: people here are volunteering with help in their spare time, please don't bother them if they have other things to do. if you need somebody to help you immediately, you should have a look at the paid support page |
09:17 | vfernandes | MARC21 authorities update, DOM: ZOOM error 114 "Unsupported Use attribute" (addinfo: "Koha-Auth-Number") from diag-set 'Bib-1' |
09:17 | drojf | sher_jillnai: http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ |
09:17 | cjh | sher_jillnai: I have little experience with SIP so can't help you from here anyway, if you need help there is this channel or paid support. goodluck :) |
09:21 | vfernandes | when doing MARC21 authorities updates I get that error |
09:21 | anyone could help me? | |
09:27 | drojf | later |
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09:39 | magnus | wow, lost power |
09:41 | rangi | w00t |
09:41 | 77-44 | |
09:42 | marriage equality bill passes, same sex marriage is legal in nz | |
09:42 | kf | woohoo :) |
09:42 | nz++ | |
09:43 | rangi | http://www.3news.co.nz/Same-se[…]4668/Default.aspx |
09:45 | magnus | nz++ |
09:45 | * magnus | thought rangi was watching sports... |
09:46 | rangi | of a kind .. humans vs bigots, humans win! |
09:46 | magnus | kf: will you be terribly offended if i sign off oleonard's patch on bug 10049? |
09:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10049 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Comments tab shows ( ) instead of ( 0 ) on translated templates |
09:46 | magnus | rangi: yay, go humans! |
09:47 | well, "try to signoff" | |
09:48 | kf | magnuse: terribly |
09:48 | if you don't :) | |
09:49 | vfernandes | kf can you help me? |
09:50 | magnus | kf: :-) |
09:51 | vfernandes | MARC21 authorities update, DOM: ZOOM error 114 "Unsupported Use attribute" (addinfo: "Koha-Auth-Number") from diag-set 'Bib-1' |
09:51 | should I change to GRS? | |
09:51 | kf | vfernandes: sorry, I have no time to help you right now |
09:52 | vfernandes | no problem :) |
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09:55 | samuel | hi everybody |
09:58 | sher_jillnai | any body can help me |
09:58 | samuel | I've a question: where can i modify title in the item table of a record (ex:http://hartford.waldo.kohalibr[…]oux%2C%20Armand.) example: i want to change "site" "shelving location" with other words |
09:59 | rangi | samuel: thats not koha, thats the liblime fork |
10:00 | samuel | yes but how can i change words in the items informations (holding site ....)? |
10:01 | sher_jillnai | I RUN THIS COMMOND FOR SIP SERVER ADN NOW STILL THE SERIVE IS NOT SHOWING AND ALSO THE PORT 6001 IS NOT SHOWING IN netstat rootubuntu:/usr/share/koha/lib# KOHACONF=/etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml perl -IC4/SIP/ -MILS C4/SIP/SIPServer.pm /etc/koha/SIPconfig.xml |
10:02 | kf | samuel: sorry, but I think we don't want to help you with this. |
10:02 | to be honest - because the license is not good and it's made for the wrong version | |
10:02 | well not versoin, made for the wrong software | |
10:02 | sher_jillnai | kf can u help me is about Koha SIP service |
10:03 | SIP server | |
10:03 | wahanui | it has been said that SIP server is definitely running |
10:03 | samuel | kf: my example is not good, i can take a french example with the good koha |
10:04 | http://catalogue.bu.univ-renne[…]blionumber=168453 ->this example is better | |
10:04 | kf | I really have not much time right now - but what do you want to change there? |
10:06 | samuel | the example i take is what i would like to have. I don't think that i've to modify a xsl file? I just want to have : localisation-itemcallnumber-avaibality... |
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10:07 | kf | ? |
10:08 | I am not usre I understand still, sorry | |
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10:16 | magnus | hooray for bug 9172 |
10:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9172 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move TinyMCE library outside of language-specific directory |
10:26 | sher_jillnai | wahanui yes cjh also told me but i check in the service list there was nothing like SIP and also i check in the Port running list there was also no port is running 6001 which the port number for SIP server |
10:26 | wahanui | OK, sher_jillnai. |
10:26 | sher_jillnai | wahanui yes cjh also told me but i check in the service list there was nothing like SIP and also i check in the Port running list there was also no port is running 6001 which the port number for SIP server |
10:26 | wahanui | OK, sher_jillnai. |
10:27 | sher_jillnai | wahanui yes cjh also told me but i check in the service list there was nothing like SIP and also i check in the Port running list there was also no port is running 6001 which the port number for SIP server |
10:27 | wahanui | OK, sher_jillnai. |
10:27 | sher_jillnai | wahanui please help me |
10:27 | wahanui | sher_jillnai: i'm not following you... |
10:27 | sher_jillnai | wahanui but i m requesting for your help |
10:27 | wahanui | sher_jillnai: sorry... |
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10:29 | magnus | sher_jillnai, wahanui is a bot - not an actual person |
10:34 | sher_jillnai | magnus sorry actually i m new here |
10:35 | magnus_lunch sorry actualy i am new here | |
10:35 | magnus_lunch can u help me in the problem mentioned above | |
10:36 | * drojf | has to reboot. after 5 minutes of using windows. ha. |
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10:55 | huginn | Oh no, not this fool again |
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11:00 | huginn | GERMS!!!! |
11:00 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
11:00 | kf | lol |
11:01 | jcamins | ... |
11:01 | huh? | |
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11:01 | * kf | is innocent |
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11:01 | jcamins | @later tell dcook I have no idea what testsearch.pl is, no. |
11:01 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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11:07 | * rangi | stops tormenting the bots and goes to bed |
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11:07 | kf | good ngiht rangi |
11:26 | mtj | jebus, #koha is a mad-house this evening :p |
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11:41 | gaetan_B | kf: hello |
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11:42 | gaetan_B | kf: for the kurdish translation, there is one thing i would like to do to make it easier for them but i need your confirmation |
11:42 | instead of starting from empty kurdish files | |
11:42 | they would start with the content of the arabic files | |
11:42 | so all the %s and code stuff has already been replaced | |
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11:43 | gaetan_B | also it will make them easier for them to translate the rest, especially when %s are mingled with text |
11:43 | the translator understand arabic as an added bonus | |
11:44 | but would modifying the arabic files and just renaming them would work out ? | |
11:44 | rangi | yes |
11:45 | * rangi | is still awake obviously |
11:45 | rangi | gaetan_B: thats what i did for en-NZ too en-GB and renamed |
11:45 | too=took | |
11:45 | jcamins | rangi: well done on the going to sleep front. :) |
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11:46 | rangi | heh yeah didnt work so well |
11:47 | gaetan_B | rangi: this is great news :) |
11:48 | we'll make it this way then | |
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12:21 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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12:23 | kf | hi oleonard |
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12:28 | tcohen | morning #koha |
12:28 | kf | morning tcohen |
12:29 | tcohen | hi kf |
12:29 | * kf | hands oleonard and tcohen cookies |
12:29 | kf | today is a cookie day. I just want you to be prepared ;) |
12:29 | * oleonard | wants that to be a real thing |
12:30 | kf | :) |
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12:32 | kf | gaetan_B1 it should work I think - but I woudl try and mark all strings fuzzy in that case |
12:33 | so you can easily see how much is actually done already and what still has to be done | |
12:33 | gaetan_B1 | kf: this is a good idea, this would also allow the translator to see how much work he has done indeed |
12:33 | ah yes :) | |
12:33 | kf | :) |
12:33 | gaetan_B1 | how do you mark all strings fuzzy ? |
12:33 | kf | because unlike en/en-NZ those are not so similar :) |
12:33 | maybe if you look in one of the po files in a text editor you will see | |
12:33 | gaetan_B1 | yes indeed (it will help a lot with the bidi problems though) |
12:33 | kf | you need a line #fuzzy or similar I think |
12:34 | shoudl be possible to do with a text editor and some smart search and replace | |
12:34 | gaetan_B1 | kf: ok i thought there was a way to do it in poedit |
12:34 | kf | oh in poedit |
12:34 | hm | |
12:34 | gaetan_B1 | but i can do a substitution with vim |
12:34 | kf | there might be in fact |
12:34 | not in pootle :) | |
12:35 | i think it could be done in poedit - maybe just check the menus, I can't right now, sorry | |
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12:35 | alohabot | Hi mib_6dxoru, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
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12:36 | HB | Hey koha |
12:37 | oleonard | Hi HB |
12:38 | HB | im doing some css editing for our koha the text on the rigt top corner ... what id does that txt have ... i'm not completely sure ... untill now my new look is like this https://koha.inbo.be/ |
12:39 | oleonard | Looks very nice HB |
12:39 | HB | :) |
12:40 | oleonard | You can change the color of that link using #members a {} |
12:40 | HB | our layout peeps want the text white at the top but i'm not there yet lol (searching) ow gonna check thx for the tip :) |
12:40 | kf | HB: looks really good so far :) you will get there |
12:40 | oleonard | #members a { color: #FFF; } |
12:41 | And #members { color: #FFF; } too if you want plain text white too | |
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12:41 | gaetan_B1 | thanks kf, il try this :) |
12:41 | HB | i have to do the hover over text also probably |
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12:46 | jcamins | I like the header! |
12:46 | Are you going to change the color scheme on the search results too? | |
12:48 | HB | ehm we dont have plans there |
12:48 | for now :) | |
12:50 | but good tip maybe i should do that | |
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12:52 | libsysguy | morning everyone |
12:52 | kf | he is alive! |
12:52 | libsysguy | :) |
12:52 | barely | |
12:53 | I thought some parts of the Koha codebase were bad…that is until I ran across my first bit of legacy CGI code | |
12:53 | CGI =~ death | |
12:53 | :p | |
12:54 | how have you been lf | |
12:54 | kf** | |
12:54 | kf | ah right... now you appreciate koha more :) |
12:54 | libsysguy | well…only a *tiny* bit :p jk jk |
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12:56 | jcamins | HB: this is one of my favorite OPACs: http://catalogue.bu.univ-renne[…]ith&searchOn=OPAC |
12:56 | * magnus | waves to libsysguy |
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13:00 | * libsysguy | waives back at magnus |
13:01 | magnus | waiving some fines, perhaps? |
13:03 | jcamins | magnus: OH NO! SOMEONE STOLE YOUR E! |
13:03 | * jcamins | panics. |
13:04 | magnus | and with good reason, i'd say |
13:04 | * druthb | doesn't have a spare E to give to magnus. |
13:05 | magnus | man, i need some e's! |
13:07 | kf | ? |
13:07 | * kf | needs some slides! |
13:07 | oleonard | kf: Again?! |
13:08 | * oleonard | sends kf all the slides |
13:08 | kf | yeah it never ends |
13:08 | I have to talk 2 hours about koha :) | |
13:09 | vfernandes | authorities still not working :/ |
13:13 | HB | what is the difference between the #members a and #members color the second one did not change annything (or i dont see it) |
13:13 | druthb | kf++ |
13:14 | kf | i get karma for not having done my slides? |
13:15 | druthb | for talking about Koha a lot! |
13:15 | oleonard | HB: "#members a" affects the color of the links within the #members <div> |
13:16 | HB: "#members" would only affect the color of text within the #members <div> | |
13:17 | * magnus | sends kf a landslide |
13:17 | magnus | slides? |
13:17 | wahanui | kf should be writing slides |
13:18 | HB | ok |
13:18 | oleonard | kf: Slide 1: "Koha is awesome." Drop the mic, show LOLcats for 119 minutes. |
13:19 | jcamins | Hehe. |
13:19 | druthb | wahanui: kf? |
13:19 | wahanui | kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. |
13:19 | druthb | hm. |
13:19 | wahanui: cait? | |
13:19 | wahanui | cait is, like, qam, not your secretary |
13:19 | druthb | LOL |
13:25 | kf | oleonard: awesome :) |
13:26 | drojf | kf: 2 hours? wow |
13:26 | kf | plan is to show koha too, 2 hours only slides would be boring |
13:26 | magnus | and have lots of time for questions and discussion! |
13:27 | drojf | you could MARC up some LOLcats to show them in koha |
13:29 | magnus | or embed some lolcat vids with the new html5 thingy |
13:29 | drojf | yay! |
13:29 | magnus | ...which is cool, btw ;-) |
13:29 | drojf | :) |
13:31 | HB | jcamins: nice one |
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13:31 | HB | the url (opac) i was late lol |
13:33 | kf | drojf++ magnus++ oleonard++ :) |
13:34 | magnus | kf: for distracting you? |
13:34 | kf | for making me laugh :) |
13:39 | mtj | HB: woah, nice opac! |
13:40 | kf | mtj: shouldn't you be sleeping?:) |
13:40 | magnus | sterling_college++ |
13:41 | mtj | kf: yeah, just finished a big upgrade... |
13:42 | * mtj | waves good night, x |
13:47 | kf | good night mtj :) |
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13:57 | HB | <oleonard>: thx is white and some small changes done to the logo (the layout people are keeping an eye on me :) )thx for the tips ++ for the help |
13:58 | tcohen | kf, we have the cookies sort-of covered here http://snag.gy/8oeqh.jpg |
13:59 | jcamins | Ah! Don't use root! :P |
14:00 | * jcamins | leaves |
14:00 | tcohen | :-D |
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14:03 | jatara | Good morning/afternoon/evening, y'all! |
14:04 | kf | tcohen: yum :) |
14:04 | and nice peak into your office :) | |
14:04 | hm peek | |
14:05 | tcohen | meaning? |
14:05 | kf | just that :) it's nice to see someone's desk :) |
14:05 | tcohen | oh, i get it |
14:05 | kf | well a bit of it, but I like the sticker :) |
14:05 | tcohen | that's my desk |
14:06 | the one of gplv3 or the one that says I need to lend some mates to my colleage? | |
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14:09 | kf | i couldn't translate that one, so I meant the other :) |
14:13 | magnus: should we put oclc connectiong thingy on the api page? | |
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14:14 | rambutan | teest |
14:15 | oleonard | Sorry rambutan it didn't work. |
14:16 | rambutan | with thunderbird chat (this is a recursive complaint) you can never tell if you're logged on or not if people aren't chatting |
14:16 | oleonard | In that case I suggest a new IRC client :) |
14:16 | rambutan | Yep, I'm looking for one |
14:17 | oleonard | Anyone here familiar with T:T's BLOCK and PROCESS directives? |
14:17 | I want to be able to define a block of markup in one place and embed it elsewhere | |
14:19 | Oh wait I think I got it working | |
14:19 | vfernandes | oleonard maybe you can help me with this error: ZOOM error 114 "Unsupported Use attribute" (addinfo: "Koha-Auth-Number") from diag-set 'Bib-1' |
14:20 | oleonard | Sorry vfernandes I don't know how to help with that one |
14:20 | vfernandes | :/ |
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14:20 | vfernandes | I don't know why this is happening with I try to update and save one authority |
14:20 | may | |
14:21 | *maybe is something related to DOM indexing | |
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14:40 | kf | marcelr++ |
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15:03 | jcamins | vfernandes: that usually happens if you don't update your Zebra configuration. |
15:04 | vfernandes | jcamins where do I update? |
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15:08 | * gmcharlt_ | tries to hug the entire country of New Zealand |
15:09 | jcamins | vfernandes: all the files in etc/zebradb should be updated. |
15:09 | If you used packages or followed the instructions they shouldn't get out of date, though. | |
15:10 | vfernandes | I installed a clean 3.10.3 |
15:10 | so it should be updated | |
15:11 | jcamins | Yes. |
15:11 | vfernandes | so how I can update the files? |
15:12 | jcamins | You shouldn't need to if it's a clean install. |
15:12 | How did you install it? | |
15:13 | vfernandes | zebra or koha? |
15:13 | zebra with apt-get, koha tar.gz download and install | |
15:15 | jcamins | Wow this connection is bad. |
15:15 | I was wondering about Kha. | |
15:15 | *Koha | |
15:16 | But I can't help you troubleshoot now. The connectin dies too quickly. | |
15:29 | vfernandes | ok jcamins thanks anyway |
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15:51 | tcohen | @seen marcelr |
15:51 | huginn | tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 6 days, 8 hours, 29 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <marcelr> hi kf |
15:56 | tcohen | is there a wanthash function in perl? |
16:01 | @later tell eythian I wan't your opinion on bug 10041 | |
16:01 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
16:03 | tcohen | bug 10041 |
16:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10041 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Provide a koha-translate script to aid package users on installing translations |
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18:05 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
18:06 | Who has access (i.e. can make changes) to http://koha-community.org/download-koha/? | |
18:07 | oleonard | Why? |
18:08 | mtompset | Because the link for ubuntu instructions points to a wiki page that has "outdated" box warning at the top. |
18:09 | magnuse | anyone heard of or tried https://github.com/zemkat/Normac ? |
18:09 | mtompset | "Ubuntu users can find instructions on our wiki for how to use the Debian packages on Ubuntu" points to http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_Koha_packages |
18:10 | I'd like to to point to either http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages or http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Ubuntu | |
18:12 | jcamins | @later tell wizzyrea could you please change the link on koha-community.org/download-koha/ from {WIKI}/Koha_on_Lucid_using_Koha_packages to http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages |
18:12 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
18:13 | mtompset | Thanks, jcamins. |
18:14 | jcamins++ | |
18:16 | jcamins | Hey! I managed to type that entire message without the connection dying! |
18:16 | Also, side thought, there should be someone in the US with write access to the website so I don't have to pester wizzyrea. | |
18:21 | oleonard | More Bootstrap OPAC work: http://screencast.com/t/IHrchRQFx1r |
18:22 | jcamins | oleonard++ # classy! |
18:23 | oleonard | I'm sure about the logo in the nav bar... I like that it gives more room for the search bar, but I wonder if libraries will miss that option for customization |
18:23 | I'm *not* sure, that is. | |
18:24 | jcamins | The one thing I question is whether or not the Advanced search/authority search/etc. links couldn't somehow be consolidated and put on the nav bar. |
18:25 | oleonard | We would have to hide them in a menu, and I don't think that would be discoverable enough for the average patron |
18:28 | jcamins | Hm. |
18:29 | I feel like there should be some way to rethink those links so they make more sense. | |
18:29 | That bar isn't immediately clear to me the way the rest of the page is. | |
18:32 | oleonard | Which bar? |
18:32 | The links? | |
18:32 | wahanui | the links are only based on the $9. |
18:33 | tcohen | mtompset: i'd remove "Debian packages on Ubuntu" and put "packages on Ubuntu". Don't understand why pointing packages where built for Debian at all |
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18:33 | tcohen | I mean, its correct, but also confusing for a non-tech user |
18:33 | jcamins | oleonard: yeah. |
18:34 | mtompset | Hmm... Because that's what was there. |
18:35 | jcamins | Oh, I know. |
18:35 | I don't think it makes immediate sense to a patron now, either. | |
18:35 | At least, it didn't make immediate sense to me the first time I sat down with a Koha OPAC. | |
18:36 | Am I the only one? | |
18:37 | oleonard | Of course I've worked with it too long to really know, but I would consider it a detail that would be mostly overlooked until someone went looking for more...something. |
18:37 | cait | hm where is the link? :) |
18:37 | oleonard | More Bootstrap OPAC work: http://screencast.com/t/IHrchRQFx1r |
18:38 | cait | oleonard: do we tell you often enough how awesome you are? :) |
18:38 | oleonard | ..but the question applies to the current OPAC design also |
18:39 | mtompset | @later tell wizzyrea That "Current Release" section on http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ needs more tweaking too. The debian link 3.4?! And it might be an idea to remove "the Debian" from the Ubuntu line description. |
18:39 | huginn | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
18:39 | cait | so the library's logo would you always in opacheader now? |
18:40 | oleonard | I don't know cait, it's just an idea |
18:40 | mtompset | There, tcohen, I hope that improves that. :) |
18:40 | cait | just trying to figure out how this would look like for a library :) |
18:40 | and I like how clean it is :) | |
18:40 | oleonard | cait: It would give more room for the search bar, which is nice. On the other hand with the cart and lists links up at the top there is already more room. |
18:41 | cait | navigation is hard |
18:42 | couldn't we find some students or so doing a usability study for us? :) | |
18:42 | I fear the cart and lists might get overlooked | |
18:42 | I really like the search bar | |
18:42 | but with the opacheader/log between cart/lists and the search it might be harder to spot than it is now | |
18:43 | oleonard | opacheader is optional. It only shows because I have something in the pref. |
18:43 | cait | i know |
18:44 | oleonard | CCSR eliminates the "Search" label on the search bar but I tend to think we should keep it. |
18:44 | ...but make it look nicer than in that screenshot | |
18:44 | * cait | nods |
18:44 | cait | i like moving it out of the search bar - the buttons |
18:44 | because when you don't have much room they get pushed down easily right now | |
18:44 | and don't look so good then | |
18:45 | jcamins | I usually move them into the bar that I don't like: demo.cplibraries.com |
18:45 | Otherwise Koha doesn't fit well on a 1024x768 monitor. | |
18:46 | cait | i was thinking about that |
18:46 | but they are not links | |
18:46 | not really | |
18:46 | oleonard | jcamins: Nowadays that is referred to as a "small tablet" ;) |
18:46 | cait | hehe |
18:46 | jcamins | oleonard: or "public terminals." |
18:46 | Depending. | |
18:48 | oleonard | jcamins: Just making a comment about how responsive grids classify things these days: http://twitter.github.io/boots[…]g.html#responsive |
18:49 | * cait | looks at other opacs |
18:49 | cait | http://vufind.org/demo/Search/[…]ields&submit=Find |
18:49 | jcamins | lol |
18:49 | Ouch. | |
18:50 | cait | i just noticed that I don't like the standard vufind so much |
18:50 | koha is prettier | |
18:50 | jcamins | Agreed. |
18:50 | I seem to recall feeling the same about Blacklight. | |
18:51 | cait | ok |
18:51 | we have lots of options | |
18:51 | to fit in | |
18:52 | oleonard | Huh, I didn't realize vufind used "Book Bag" |
18:52 | cait | h how does the newer evergreen pac look like? |
18:52 | oleonard | I wonder if their customers' top request is to change that. |
18:52 | cait | hehe |
18:53 | jcamins | cait: Sitka has done some nice things. |
18:53 | oleonard | Sitka? |
18:53 | jcamins | Hm. |
18:53 | Maybe not Sitka. | |
18:53 | It's a consortium. | |
18:55 | jeff: do you have links handy to some of the more attractive TPAC sites? | |
18:57 | oleonard | I don't think Ohio's regional Evergreen system counts: http://www.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/home |
18:57 | cait | that looks like the old one too: http://catalogue.bclibraries.c[…]100&d=2&f=&ol=100 |
18:57 | jcamins | cait: yeah, that's why I condlued it wasn't Sitka. |
18:58 | cait | i think the problem is |
18:58 | our opac can do too many things :) | |
18:58 | and we ahve to find a place for everythin! | |
18:58 | and I think we can agree that we can't fit it into one toolbar? | |
18:58 | jcamins | Dyrcona: do you have links handy to some of the more attractive TPAC sites? |
18:58 | cait: agreed. | |
18:58 | senator | jcamins: jeff just doesn't want to boast: http://catalog.tadl.org |
18:58 | cait | so we need some way to place 2 |
19:00 | oleonard: could we move the card and lists down on the level of the breadcrumbs? | |
19:00 | I think they don't get too long in opac? | |
19:00 | Dyrcona | jcamins: I think tadl.org is the prettiest. Ours is plain but uses something other than the stock colors: http://catalog.mvlc.org/eg/opac/home |
19:00 | oleonard | cait: We could, but I'm not sure that makes sense there |
19:01 | cait: Do you suggest that because you think they need to be more visible? Or because You'd like to make room in the nav bar? | |
19:01 | cait | more visible |
19:02 | and break the elemnts closer together I think | |
19:02 | bring | |
19:02 | the navigational like elemens | |
19:02 | I am still worried people put large pictures/banners in the opacheader section like they do now | |
19:03 | oleonard | True |
19:03 | The CCSR theme gets around that problem by not letting people use opacheader that way ;) | |
19:05 | jcamins | Dyrcona: senator: tadl is the one I was thinking of. |
19:05 | cait | https://katalog.bibliothek.tu-chemnitz.de/ |
19:06 | jcamins | Not sure how I got Michigan and BC confused, but at least you know what I wanted. |
19:06 | Dyrcona | jcamins: senator: jeff told me how they did the lists of sliding books with iframes and hand-managed lists on Saturday after the Evergreen Conference. |
19:07 | oleonard | Luckily the placement of the Cart button or the "extra" links are things which can be fairly easily changed |
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19:08 | cait | oleonard: not sure that argument counts :) |
19:08 | you know people want to put their library logos somewhere :) | |
19:08 | oleonard | cait: I mean we really could do some testing,or at least surveying, before settling on a design |
19:08 | cait | yep |
19:08 | makes sense :) | |
19:08 | and it already looks lovely :) | |
19:08 | senator | that's a nice looking katalog |
19:08 | jcamins | oleonard: true. And I wasn't saying it needed to be changed right away, just pointing out something that bothered me in case you had a solution. |
19:09 | senator | Dyrcona: cool, we should get him to write that up for the list |
19:09 | cait | it's a vufind project here in germany |
19:09 | they do catalogs for several universities | |
19:09 | i think it's pretty cool :) | |
19:09 | https://katalog.hmt-leipzig.de/ | |
19:13 | vufind is pretty big in Germany | |
19:13 | oleonard | At some point I'll have to make the Cart and Lists buttons actually work... :| |
19:14 | cait | oleonard: if anyone can... it#s you :) |
19:14 | what if we had 2 navigation bars ontop of each other? and header on top top? | |
19:15 | i should just leave that to oleonard :) | |
19:16 | jcamins | I like that design, as you know. |
19:16 | But oleonard is probably a better judge of whether it's a good idea. | |
19:16 | oleonard | I'm not sure I understand what you mean |
19:17 | jcamins | Two rows of nav buttons underneath the header. |
19:17 | jeff | jcamins: regarding "more attractive" TPAC sites, I'm partial to our own. http://catalog.tadl.org -- be sure to toggle to kids' opac for whimsy. :-) |
19:18 | jcamins | Awww! |
19:18 | oleonard | The header being opacheader jcamins? |
19:18 | jcamins | oleonard: right. |
19:18 | jeff | senator: oh, and having just boasted, i see senator answered already! :-) |
19:19 | senator++ thanks! | |
19:19 | oleonard | jcamins: So you would put the advanced search, etc. links right under the navbar? |
19:19 | jcamins | Now that cait has suggested it, yes. |
19:20 | oleonard | One thing I like about having the advanced search link, etc. under the main search bar is that it reflects their importance: Search is more important. |
19:20 | jcamins | Hmm. |
19:21 | I feel like the navbar has smaller text for that reason. | |
19:22 | But feel free to ignore my ideas on user interface design in favor of actual knowledge about how users use interfaces. ;) | |
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19:35 | jatara | @jeff: Wow! I like your site. |
19:35 | huginn | jatara: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
19:36 | mtompset | Greetings, bgkriegel. :) |
19:38 | Oh, this "search" "advanced search" talk reminds me. | |
19:39 | The staff client menu bar at the top only says "search" for a link to the "Advanced Search". | |
19:40 | jcamins | Yes, "Advanced search" is redundant. |
19:40 | And unnecessarily verbose. | |
19:41 | Librarians looking for "search" are looking for an advanced search rather than quick search. | |
19:41 | mtompset | So, the pretty graphics should drop the word "Advanced" to be more consistent? |
19:42 | jcamins | It says "advanced search" somewhere on the staff client? |
19:42 | oleonard | On the home page |
19:42 | jcamins | Huh. |
19:42 | jatara | On one of the buttons. |
19:42 | mtompset | Yep. Right on the home page. |
19:42 | jcamins | Do you know, I never noticed that. |
19:42 | I never look at the home page. | |
19:43 | mtompset | And when you click it, the "Home > Advanced Search" with an "Advanced Search" title. |
19:43 | tcohen | jcamins, i'm about to fill a bug on translation encoding problems |
19:44 | jcamins | I also never use the search screen. |
19:44 | tcohen | has anyone noticed problems with non-latin chars on the staff login screen? |
19:44 | jcamins | I use CCL, QP, or PQF, depending on my needs. |
19:44 | tcohen | s/latin/ascii/ |
19:44 | jcamins | tcohen: mtompset reported seeing the same. |
19:45 | tcohen | yes, I'll use his comment to support my bug report, thanks mtompset |
19:45 | bgkriegel | Hi mtompset. Thanks for your email. I'll write to you. |
19:45 | mtompset | You're welcome, tcohen. After all, it probably will affect me with people wanting other languages in the UI. |
19:45 | bgkriegel | and Hi all |
19:45 | tcohen | hi bgkriegel |
19:46 | bgkriegel | hi tcohen |
19:48 | tcohen | bgkriegel: thanks for testing my patch for bug 10041 |
19:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10041 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Provide a koha-translate script to aid package users on installing translations |
19:48 | tcohen | i've been learning a bit about bash tab-completion today |
19:49 | mtompset | tab-completion is an awesome time saver. :) |
19:49 | I use: $ sudo service koha-{tab} start | |
19:49 | I don't have to remember what I linked the name as. :) | |
19:50 | tcohen | soon you'll be able to do sudo koha-rebuild-zebra <tab>[options] <tab>[instance] |
19:50 | ;) | |
19:50 | mtompset | You working on that? |
19:50 | tcohen | yeap |
19:50 | mtompset | SWEET! |
19:50 | tcohen | pet project for today and tomorrow |
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19:57 | mtompset | I just found another meaning for koha. ;) http://www.koha.ca/ |
19:58 | oleonard | What is it with hockey and Koha? http://koha.com/ |
19:59 | rambutan | kocky? |
19:59 | kockey, rather | |
20:05 | mtompset | ha = hockey association. |
20:05 | a lot of communities start with 'k'. | |
20:05 | what the 'o' means may vary? | |
20:07 | Optimist vs. Old-timers | |
20:09 | drojf1 joined #koha | |
20:09 | mtompset | Well, time to survive my wife driving to pick up our son. :) She just got her G1 (learners permit equivalent?) recently. |
20:12 | oleonard | More zebra advice on the mailing list from the other Paul... |
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20:18 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
20:24 | mtompset | ARG! |
20:25 | That was regarding the tarball Paul's instructions. | |
20:35 | jcamins | Dyrcona: I think it's good that Koha didn't apply for GSoC while I was still RM. |
20:36 | Dyrcona | jcamins: Heh. I'm starting to question the wisdom of volunteering as a mentor this year. |
21:07 | rangi | morning |
21:07 | mtompset: argh is right | |
21:07 | dishing out bad advice all over the place, | |
21:09 | cait | morning rangi |
21:09 | magnuse | evening rangi |
21:10 | wizzyrea | hello peeps |
21:11 | magnuse | hiya wizzyrea |
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21:12 | cait | hey wizzyrea |
21:12 | wahanui | wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans. |
21:13 | * magnuse | wishes all of #koha a good time of the day and wanders off to sleep |
21:13 | rangi | cya magnuse |
21:13 | tcohen | bye magnuse |
21:13 | wizzyrea | bye :) |
21:13 | tcohen | morning rangi wizzyrea |
21:15 | rangi | hi tcohen |
21:15 | wizzyrea | hiyas tcohen |
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21:20 | * cait | waves |
21:20 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
21:20 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.8°C (11:20 PM CEST on April 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
21:20 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
21:20 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (8:30 AM NZST on April 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). |
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21:34 | tcohen | how do I tell git bisect to limit its search at some commitid? |
21:34 | limit backwards | |
21:34 | git bisect HEAD commitid? | |
21:36 | rangi? | |
21:36 | wahanui | I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
21:36 | tcohen | heh |
21:37 | melia | is there a way to add a new matching rule for patron import (in tools)? |
21:41 | rangi | not that i know of melia |
21:42 | melia | darn. thanks anyway! |
21:52 | cjh | tcohen: after starting git bisect you need to make a revision as bad and good |
21:52 | tcohen: good is the furthest you go back, bad is the furthest you go forward (if those directions make sense) | |
21:53 | tcohen: if you look at man git-bisect there is a good example under 'basic bisect commands' | |
21:54 | bag | ah rangi melia thinks she may have figured it out |
21:54 | tcohen | i have a test script i plan tu run with git bissect run test.sh |
21:54 | (thx cjh) | |
21:55 | cjh | git bisect start; bit bisect bad HEAD; bit bisect good commitid; # should match what you wanted above |
21:55 | git bisect start HEAD commitid #HEAD is bad, commitid is good. | |
21:55 | didnt know it had a short form, neat. | |
21:56 | melia | well, not really. edveal discovered that if in patron attributes, you check off the box to make it a unique identifier, then that patron attribute will appear in the dropdown menu for patron import matching rules. (don't know if it works or not, but there it is!) |
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21:57 | tcohen | sorry cjh, network problem |
21:57 | cjh | tcohen: sorry for my rambling, wasnt aware of the shorter form. |
22:15 | wizzyrea | which wiki page is "the wiki page for debian package installation" |
22:15 | because there are several and I always seem to get the wrong one. | |
22:16 | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian ? | |
22:16 | rangi | yep |
22:16 | cait | melia: it does work - i use it a lot |
22:16 | melia: unique patron attribute and patron import that is | |
22:16 | melia | I actually wanted a rule to match on borrowernumber |
22:17 | cait | I think patron attributes is the only way |
22:17 | we use it for student id | |
22:17 | or staff id | |
22:17 | melia | I thought about making a patron attribute for borrowernumber and then importing the existing borrowernumber data, but it seems like that would need to be constantly updated and could easily get messed up |
22:19 | tcohen | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
22:19 | wizzyrea | mtompset: is that better on http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ |
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23:06 | eythian | hi |
23:06 | wahanui | what's up, eythian |
23:07 | eythian | tcohen: I haven't tested it yet, but I approve of the idea. I'll see about adding a signoff to it soon. Today hopefully. |
23:07 | (re bug 10041) | |
23:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10041 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Provide a koha-translate script to aid package users on installing translations |
23:08 | tcohen | oh, thansk eythian |
23:08 | been working a bit on tab completion today | |
23:09 | i got stuck because i don't fully understand the possible parameter combinations | |
23:09 | (of koha-create) | |
23:09 | eythian | also, there's no wanthash function in perl because it doesn't really make sense (although I could see the use)...you can return a list and turn it straight into a hash. Really, a hash behaves like a list when passing it around. |
23:10 | tcohen: OK. You'd probably have to poke through the source to work it out properly. | |
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23:12 | tcohen | ok eythian |
23:12 | wahanui | eythian is, like, great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem |
23:13 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
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23:19 | libsysguy1 | @seen rangi |
23:19 | huginn | libsysguy1: rangi was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <rangi> yep |
23:20 | rangi | yep whats up? |
23:20 | libsysguy1 | jw how that transfer went |
23:20 | wizzyrea | omg it's a libsysguy sighting |
23:20 | rangi | its still going |
23:20 | * wizzyrea | waves |
23:20 | libsysguy1 | hehe hi wizzyrea |
23:20 | rangi | seems ok tho i might start the others |
23:21 | libsysguy1 | it was easy enough on my end |
23:21 | yes I do want to transfer...done | |
23:21 | rangi | you got an email eh? |
23:21 | cool, yeah i think its just waiting for the registry to update | |
23:21 | Next step: The registry has been informed about the transfer request. | |
23:21 | libsysguy1 | okay cool, I'm going to pull my name servers off of them |
23:21 | rangi | is where its at |
23:21 | ill start the other ones | |
23:22 | libsysguy1 | okay cool |
23:22 | rangi | you should a few more emails |
23:22 | * libsysguy1 | glares at his inbox |
23:23 | libsysguy1 | thanks for working with me on it |
23:23 | but now dinner is ready | |
23:24 | so I'm off | |
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23:31 | tcohen | eythian, i've just read your comment on wanthash |
23:32 | it is used to detect if a function/method was called in hash or scalar context | |
23:32 | eythian | there's no such thing as a hash context |
23:32 | there's only list or scalar | |
23:32 | and list == hash if you choose to put it into one | |
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23:33 | eythian | <eythian> there's no such thing as a hash context |
23:33 | <eythian> there's only list or scalar | |
23:33 | <eythian> and list == hash if you choose to put it into one | |
23:33 | tcohen | i'm sorry, i meant wantarray |
23:33 | you're right | |
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23:44 | tcohen | can anyone provide me a commit hash that was cmmited in january |
23:44 | ? | |
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23:49 | dcook | tcohen: git log --before={2013-01-31} --after={2013-01-01} |
23:49 | wizzyrea | i always learn such interesting things about git here <3 |
23:50 | eythian | wahanui: git tips |
23:50 | wahanui | git tips is http://blog.apiaxle.com/post/h[…]ou-getting-fired/ |
23:51 | wizzyrea | eythian++ |
23:53 | trea | heh |
23:53 | dcook | https://www.kernel.org/pub/sof[…]docs/git-log.html |
23:53 | Also a git users best friend | |
23:53 | user's* | |
23:55 | tcohen | thanks dcook |
23:55 | i'm bisecting a bug regarding charset encoding and translations | |
23:55 | dcook | :) |
23:58 | tcohen | i want to discard issues with the translate.k-c.org setup actually |
23:58 | yay! | |
23:58 | 8579d07f1474a2393e518b66e9aa6c3464ab2e81 is the first bad commit | |
23:58 | Merge branch 'bug_9068' into 3.12-master | |
23:58 | bug 9068 | |
23:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Babelthèque: New podcasts area |
23:59 | bgkriegel | why? |
23:59 | tcohen | that's what bissect says |
23:59 | bgkriegel | I signed that |
23:59 | tcohen | it doesn't make sense |
23:59 | bgkriegel | it's on opac |
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