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| 00:00 | mtj | … as the alternate 'newer' package may not get security updates |
| 00:00 | jcamins | lol |
| 00:00 | This is awesome. | |
| 00:00 | "And today, April 1, 2013 my library switches to creating only new RDA records. Hooray!!!" | |
| 00:01 | rangi | id just stick with perl-modules, it gets much more eyes on it |
| 00:01 | so safer | |
| 00:01 | jcamins | I'm not sure if that's intended to be an April Fool's joke or not, but it's hysterically funny either way. |
| 00:01 | mtj | rangi, yeah, i think i agree now too |
| 00:02 | jcamins, its a good one :p ^^ | |
| 00:02 | rangi | :) |
| 00:03 | mtj | i'll rewrite the patch so it selects the perl-module version, rather than the alternative version |
| 00:04 | eythian | no don't |
| 00:04 | if it's in perl-modules it should ignore it | |
| 00:04 | see the comment on apt-cache show perl-modules | |
| 00:05 | (I'm not sure if we're doing that now, but we probably should be) | |
| 00:05 | jcamins | I don't think we are. |
| 00:05 | mtj | eythian, what comment where? |
| 00:05 | jcamins | We have libcgi-perl | perl-modules in the control file |
| 00:05 | I think. | |
| 00:06 | eythian | mtj: the comment that says you shouldn't depend on it |
| 00:07 | jcamins: hmm. That's probably not the most best thing to do | |
| 00:07 | mtj | ah, click |
| 00:08 | jcamins | Wow, you know what I have decided I don't like? |
| 00:08 | eythian | spaghetti? |
| 00:09 | why don't you like spaghetti, jcamins? | |
| 00:09 | jcamins | No, I was thinking the fact that HTML5 is not a subset of XML. |
| 00:09 | eythian | what did it do to you? |
| 00:09 | oh, yeah. that's by design I think | |
| 00:09 | jcamins | Yes, because w3c hates me. |
| 00:09 | eythian | It's probably personal. |
| 00:09 | jcamins | Oh, I know it's personal. |
| 00:10 | mtj | eythian, i think i understand what you are suggesting |
| 00:11 | there's no need to explicitly list the perl-modules package, because its a dep of the perl package | |
| 00:11 | eythian | mtj: I'll talk to the debian perl folks, see what they recommend. |
| 00:11 | yeah | |
| 00:12 | mtj | cool |
| 00:13 | eythian | jcamins: I have issues with XML being used for HTML. On one hand, it's good and precise. On the other, it's really easy to mess up and cause the whole document to not render. |
| 00:13 | jcamins | If HTML5 isn't really XML-compatible, it seems kind of silly to use XML as the basic storage format. |
| 00:13 | Better to use JSON natively. | |
| 00:13 | mtj | everyone agrees that removing the current 'either|or' lines from the control file is a good thing? |
| 00:14 | jcamins | Except, oh, wait, there's no agreed-upon way to serialize an HTML5 DOM tree to JSON? |
| 00:14 | Nnnnnngggggg. | |
| 00:14 | eythian | mtj: I'm not sure |
| 00:14 | mtj | ok ok |
| 00:14 | jcamins | eythian: in principle I get it. In practice, it feels like they pulled the carpet out from under us without bothering to check if there was a floor underneath the carpet. |
| 00:14 | eythian | mtj: keep in mind we have to support a few different distros, so we can't always expect that everything is the same in perl-modules |
| 00:15 | on the other hand, we sorta do expect that and it seems to work. | |
| 00:16 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1132: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1132/ |
| 00:16 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9443 [Revised] Use DataTables on MARC frameworks administration | |
| 00:16 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8943 - Add table sorting to labels | |
| 00:16 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8943 - Add table sorting to labels - Followup - Sort pulldowns in batch export. | |
| 00:16 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9917 - Routing list tab on patron account should depend on syspref/permission | |
| 00:16 | jcamins | Do I look like someone who wants to write a DOM de-/serializer? |
| 00:16 | jenkins_koha | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9954 - CVS profile encoding not selected in edition |
| 00:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9443 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on MARC frameworks administration page |
| 00:16 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: But 9791: Remove single pixel on datatable tables |
| 00:16 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9946 - opac-topissues with no time limit | |
| 00:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8943 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add table sorting to labels |
| 00:16 | jenkins_koha | * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 6554 - make Koha internally utf-8 clean |
| 00:16 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 6554 QA Followup | |
| 00:16 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 6554: Followup for serial search | |
| 00:16 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 6554: Followup for acquisitions | |
| 00:16 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 6554: Followup for preferences.pl | |
| 00:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9917 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Routing list tab on patron account should depend on syspref/permission |
| 00:17 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9954 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , CSV profile encoding not selected on editing | |
| 00:17 | jenkins_koha | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 6554 Followup for circulation patron search |
| 00:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9946 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , opac-topissues with no time limit |
| 00:17 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates | |
| 00:17 | jcamins | Too close to midnight. |
| 00:17 | eythian | jcamins: I'm sure that it's already been done |
| 00:17 | dcook joined #koha | |
| 00:17 | jcamins | eythian: me too. I'm searching for an implementation as we speak. |
| 00:18 | dcook | allo #koha |
| 00:18 | eythian | jquery might have one |
| 00:20 | jcamins | That'd be useful. |
| 00:20 | mtj | jcamins, eythian : thanks for the packaging advice, too |
| 00:20 | jcamins | Unfortunately it seems not to. |
| 00:20 | * jcamins | grumbles. |
| 00:25 | jcamins | Here I found something... and I don't like it. |
| 00:26 | Everyone seems to have conveniently ignored the fact that HTML5 != XHTML | |
| 00:27 | "Just treat it like XML" is a great way to end up with a non-round-trip-able object. | |
| 00:29 | eythian | ah, joy |
| 00:31 | BobB joined #koha | |
| 01:49 | jcamins | In what world is the Document Object Model anything other than profoundly stupid? |
| 01:49 | I hadn't appreciated quite how... astonishing... the stupidity of that model is. | |
| 01:50 | dcook | O_o |
| 01:51 | eythian | it is really quite something special |
| 01:56 | in what context have I seen strings like "u-nz---" before? | |
| 01:58 | jcamins | eythian: 043 |
| 02:00 | eythian | jcamins: thanks, I was thinking perhaps I was misassociating it with punycode or similar |
| 02:16 | > Private OPAC requires authentification before accessing the OPAC. | |
| 02:16 | That's not a word! | |
| 02:16 | mib_xble6z | jcamins, are u there? |
| 02:16 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:16 | mib_xble6z | i'm installing ilbot on ubuntu server |
| 02:16 | hello | |
| 02:17 | wahanui | privet, mib_xble6z |
| 02:17 | mib_xble6z | and when i go to http://irc.dreamlib.vn i got this error |
| 02:17 | cjh | authentification sounds secure. |
| 02:17 | mib_xble6z | Can't locate IrcLog.pm in @INC (@INC contains: lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /var/www/dreamlib/irc/index.pl line 8. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /var/www/dreamlib/irc/index.pl line 8. |
| 02:17 | privet | |
| 02:17 | kak ti? | |
| 02:18 | wahanui | |
| 02:18 | wahanui | yes, mib_xble6z? |
| 02:18 | mib_xble6z | wait me join again |
| 02:19 | quocuy joined #koha | |
| 02:19 | quocuy | hello |
| 02:19 | can you check my website at http://irc.dreamlib.vn ? | |
| 02:20 | eythian | you probably need to find whatever provides IrcLog.pm and install it |
| 02:20 | quocuy | got error with IrcLog.pm |
| 02:20 | yes, i used apt-file search IrcLog.pm | |
| 02:20 | but can't find it | |
| 02:21 | cjh | IrcLog.pm is provided in ilbot/lib, so you prob need to set PERL5LIB path to include wherever ilbot/lib is installed |
| 02:22 | quocuy | ah, understand, and how can i do that? |
| 02:22 | copy irclog.pm to these folder, which was shown? | |
| 02:22 | eythian | No. |
| 02:23 | you need to set up your perl path to find your log bot. | |
| 02:23 | cjh | quocuy: you probably want your apache config to have a line like SetEnv PERL5LIB "/path/to/illib/lib" |
| 02:24 | quocuy | ok, i'll try it now. |
| 02:24 | eythian | it's possibly set up in .htaccess |
| 02:25 | quocuy | .htaccess in folder cgi? |
| 02:26 | eythian | the one that the instructions refer to |
| 02:26 | quocuy | yes |
| 02:30 | i add that line into /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, and reload, but nothing happens | |
| 02:31 | cjh | quocuy: you need to restart apache after making changes to apache config |
| 02:32 | quocuy: on debian systems: sudo service apache2 restart | |
| 02:33 | eythian | if you put it there, what did you do with the .htaccess? |
| 02:36 | quocuy | Can't locate IrcLog.pm in @INC (@INC contains: lib /home/koha/Dropbox/ilbot-master/lib |
| 02:37 | .htaccess i didn't do so much, make a password and username for spam.pl | |
| 02:38 | cjh | does the user it is running as have permissions to acess home/koha/Dropbox/ilbot-master/lib ? |
| 02:39 | eythian | it's probably running from a different directory |
| 02:39 | we can't tell from that error | |
| 02:39 | quocuy | aha, let me change that directory |
| 02:46 | You were right, i copied folder to another location, it pass that error, and now, another :( | |
| 02:49 | jcamins | Javascript arrays/objects are another weird thing. |
| 02:50 | quocuy | it looks lbad, right? I have no idea. I follow his guide till now. |
| 02:50 | eythian | jcamins: they are pretty odd things |
| 02:50 | like a lot of javascript | |
| 02:51 | quocuy: there are two errors there, fix the actual one first. | |
| 02:52 | quocuy | you can check here https://github.com/moritz/ilbot/ , there are lot of things, but this guide need to use only 2 folder, cgi and lib |
| 02:52 | jcamins | If I have an object like this: { 'thing': { 'children': [ ... ] } there doesn't be any way to get 'thing' |
| 02:52 | quocuy | why another one stay there? |
| 02:52 | jcamins | *doesn't seem to be |
| 02:53 | quocuy | where can i get started to fix these error? |
| 02:53 | wizzyrea | jcamins isn't it impossibly late for you |
| 02:53 | cjh | jcamins: do you mean the value of thing, or the key 'thing' ? |
| 02:53 | jcamins | wizzyrea: it's not even 11. |
| 02:53 | cjh: the key 'thing' | |
| 02:53 | wizzyrea | oh. ok. |
| 02:54 | cjh | jcamins: assuming this is js, you can iterate over every key in an object |
| 02:54 | jcamins | cjh: that's what I thought. |
| 02:55 | cjh | for( var key in obj ) /* where obj is the obj in question */ |
| 02:55 | jcamins: does this not work? | |
| 02:55 | jcamins | cjh: okay... |
| 02:56 | that's weird. | |
| 02:56 | cjh | you may also want to test obj.hasOwnProperty(key) to make sure it isnt inherited |
| 02:56 | jcamins: now that you are talking about it, it suddently works? | |
| 02:56 | jcamins | cjh: no. |
| 02:56 | It's now in an infinite loop. | |
| 02:57 | eythian | quocuy: the error says your missing a file, you're probably missing a file. |
| 02:57 | quocuy: also note that this isn't an ilbot help channel, so we're probably not able to be very helpful. We can only tell you things that are obvious anyway. | |
| 02:58 | jcamins | There we go. |
| 02:58 | It's out of the loop. | |
| 02:58 | eythian | jcamins: welcome to javascript |
| 02:58 | cjh | heh |
| 02:58 | quocuy | yes |
| 02:59 | jcamins | ... and the properties do not match the object I'm looking at. |
| 02:59 | Grr. | |
| 02:59 | quocuy | ok, i really appriciate |
| 03:00 | maybe need more time to google. That man, he wrote a short guide, not clear as koha-guide :) | |
| 03:00 | it's hard for someone not professional like me to do exctly | |
| 03:00 | jcamins | It lists 0, length, prevObject, and context |
| 03:01 | eythian | jcamins: if it's a browser DOM object, it may be full of all manner of crazy |
| 03:01 | jcamins | eythian: it's not. I created it. |
| 03:01 | eythian | ah |
| 03:01 | perhaps they came from the prototype | |
| 03:01 | cjh | jcamins: when you said 'the properties do not match the object I'm looking at', what did you mean? |
| 03:03 | pastebot | Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "el = [Object article: Array[0]" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/451 |
| 03:03 | jcamins | cjh: ^^ |
| 03:04 | Ah-ha. | |
| 03:04 | el[0] is the object that I was expecting. | |
| 03:04 | Ummm... | |
| 03:04 | why? | |
| 03:05 | Ah-ha. | |
| 03:05 | I see. | |
| 03:05 | Talk about weird. | |
| 03:05 | *Everything* is in an extra array. | |
| 03:05 | eythian | <eythian> jcamins: welcome to javascript |
| 03:05 | jcamins | lol |
| 03:05 | Thanks. | |
| 03:07 | eythian | you're not somehow creating an extra array? |
| 03:07 | I don't see how, but... | |
| 03:07 | jcamins | I must be. |
| 03:08 | But I don't really care, just so long as it is consistent, which it seems to be. | |
| 03:08 | eythian | I've always done it by going var foo = new Array(); and then putting things in |
| 03:08 | or new Array(a,b,c) | |
| 03:09 | although I suppose you want a hash, not an array really | |
| 03:09 | hey | |
| 03:09 | shouldn't it then be el={a:'a', b:'b'}; | |
| 03:09 | ? | |
| 03:09 | rather than [ ... ] | |
| 03:10 | cjh | if it is an array of 3 parts, it should have commas. I am not quite sure what that syntax is. |
| 03:10 | jcamins | eythian: yes, but I created it using curly braces. |
| 03:10 | That was what Chrome displayed. | |
| 03:10 | eythian | jcamins: your pastebin suggests otherwise. |
| 03:10 | hmm | |
| 03:11 | jcamins | You're right. |
| 03:11 | el[0] is displayed by Chrome with curly braces. | |
| 03:11 | Oh well. | |
| 03:13 | I hate Javascript. | |
| 03:13 | cjh | heh |
| 03:14 | jcamins | Actually, I hate all web programming. |
| 03:14 | It actually makes win32 look pleasant. | |
| 03:14 | mtj | no HEREDOC in javascript, is my latest peeve :/ |
| 03:16 | jcamins | Mine is "recursing over any sort of tree structure in order to create an object is basically pointless because Javascript will add DOM properties to a string." |
| 03:16 | It's a string. | |
| 03:16 | It says "G.C." | |
| 03:16 | quocuy | sorry all, i found these chat on google |
| 03:16 | 21:53 Alex-SF i get an error page 21:53 Alex-SF "This page contains the following errors: 21:53 Alex-SF error on line 2 at column 1: Extra content at the end of the document 21:53 Alex-SF Below is a rendering of the page up to the first error." 21:53 mlei ah, yeah, index isn't updated yet 21:53 mlei i'm not sure how often m | |
| 03:16 | jcamins | So why does it have five million properties? |
| 03:17 | quocuy | "i'm not sure how often mysql updates the index" |
| 03:18 | eythian | jcamins: it's a string object, don't forget |
| 03:18 | objects are supposed to have a bunch of fields | |
| 03:19 | "supposed" | |
| 03:19 | quocuy | i created ilbot.mysql, but maybe i need import the ilbot.mysql, which i downloaded? |
| 03:19 | jcamins | quocuy: MySQL doesn't update indexes. MySQL is just a database. |
| 03:19 | MrAgent075 joined #koha | |
| 03:20 | jcamins | eythian: right... I return to my original thesis. |
| 03:20 | Javascript sucks. | |
| 03:22 | * MrAgent075 | is thinking about Responsive Design on Koha. |
| 03:23 | jcamins | MrAgent075: avoid Javascript. It is the devil. |
| 03:23 | wizzyrea | oh boy. |
| 03:23 | cjh | heh |
| 03:24 | MrAgent075 | jcamins: Totally Agree on That. The Language is just too damn confusing to work with. [commences High-5] |
| 03:25 | eythian | I actually don't mind it too much outside a browser. But it's by no means a favourite. |
| 03:25 | jcamins | eythian: outside a browser I don't use Javascript. :P |
| 03:25 | cjh | fwiw: I think it is theoretically a nice language, I just hate how it is used :) |
| 03:26 | eythian | I once built a system that embedded an API accessed through Rhino for end users to include javascript snippets. |
| 03:26 | jcamins | cjh: theoretically, it's fine, but theory doesn't involve me using it. |
| 03:26 | All I want to do is iterate through a DOM tree and create a Javascript tree structure. | |
| 03:26 | eythian | also so we could do rapid modification without a code/compile/deploy phase. |
| 03:26 | YOU ASK TOO MUCH! | |
| 03:27 | jcamins | That does not require that I copy EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY IN THE DOM. |
| 03:27 | Yeah, I know. | |
| 03:27 | wizzyrea | did you see the thing |
| 03:27 | eythian | jcamins: wait, is this actually a DOM tree? |
| 03:27 | wizzyrea | where they did fabric physics with javascript? |
| 03:28 | eythian | wizzyrea: I build a video markup system in javascript+xml too :) |
| 03:28 | jcamins | eythian: I'm starting over again, so, yeah, I'm back to a DOM tree. |
| 03:28 | eythian | ah right, I was going to say then you should use the DOM methods |
| 03:28 | which suck, but should work | |
| 03:28 | jcamins | Yeah, I did. |
| 03:28 | wizzyrea | http://codepen.io/stuffit/pen/KrAwx |
| 03:28 | jcamins | And it seemed to work. |
| 03:28 | But going the other way isn't working, so I'm just starting over. | |
| 03:29 | * jcamins | tears the fabric to bits. |
| 03:29 | jcamins | Am I missing something obvious? |
| 03:29 | I feel like lots of people should have written snippets to traverse the DOM. | |
| 03:30 | eythian | http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]hrough-a-dom-tree <-- like that? |
| 03:31 | * jcamins | looks. |
| 03:32 | jcamins | Well, good news. |
| 03:32 | wahanui | rumour has it good news is it looks like it's running properly |
| 03:32 | jcamins | That looks almost exactly like the code I just deleted in a fit of pique. |
| 03:32 | * MrAgent075 | is questioning tearing fabric to bits, unless they will serve a greater purpose in later future. |
| 03:32 | eythian | heh |
| 03:33 | jcamins | The bad news, of course, is that this probably won't help in this case. |
| 03:33 | * jcamins | uses it again anyway. |
| 03:34 | jcamins | Any idea what the _SU3 means? |
| 03:35 | eythian | I have no idea, might just be where the code was pasted from |
| 03:35 | http://www.quepublishing.com/a[…]?p=20991&seqNum=6 <-- you could try this jcamins :D | |
| 03:36 | jcamins | I hated VBScript too. |
| 03:38 | mtj | jcamins, fwiw, i think i started using jquery for DOM stuff |
| 03:39 | jcamins | mtj: yeah, my version was jQuery based but did the same thing. |
| 03:39 | I couldn't care less whether it uses DOM directly or uses jQuery. | |
| 03:39 | mtj | http://api.jquery.com/category/traversing/ |
| 03:39 | theres a bunch of DOM stuff there… ^^ | |
| 03:39 | jcamins | Yeah, but the problem is not really the traversing. |
| 03:39 | It's doing something with the traversed elements. | |
| 03:40 | mtj | aah, ok |
| 03:41 | jcamins | Ooh, I finally came up with the right keywords. |
| 03:41 | http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]e-object-from-dom | |
| 03:42 | "javascript dom walkable object" | |
| 03:42 | No, please don't ask me how I came up with that. | |
| 03:42 | eythian | How did you...oh |
| 03:43 | jcamins | lol |
| 03:52 | Right... | |
| 03:53 | This time it created an object without any extraneous properties. | |
| 03:53 | That is good. | |
| 03:53 | Unfortunately, now I can't seem to get any actual data out of it. | |
| 03:55 | At least that was easy to solve. | |
| 03:55 | I think. | |
| 03:55 | eythian | wahanui: javascript |
| 03:55 | wahanui | javascript is required for interactions with clicks |
| 03:56 | eythian | wahanui: javascript is also an implementation of INTERCAL on Interstates |
| 03:56 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 03:58 | jcamins | Well, hallelujah! It seems to be giving me basically the data structure I expected. |
| 03:59 | And it turns out the problem is that I wasn't setting object = {} at the beginning of the block every time. | |
| 03:59 | I was tricked into thinking I didn't need to since when I failed to do that it still worked. | |
| 04:00 | cjh | INTERCAL's come from is genius. |
| 04:01 | eythian | ah, so you were working with an undefined rather than an empty object |
| 04:03 | jcamins | Right. |
| 04:03 | I would've thought there would have been an error. | |
| 04:03 | But apparently not. | |
| 04:03 | eythian | I think undefined is just another object |
| 04:03 | with some special properties, but not many | |
| 04:03 | jcamins | ^^ there you have it. |
| 04:03 | javascript-- | |
| 04:03 | And now I just need to deserialize my JSON as HTML | |
| 04:04 | And then I'm going to bed because it is late. | |
| 04:04 | eythian | you'll dream of javascript |
| 04:05 | jcamins | Only nightmares. |
| 04:07 | * dcook | is curious as to which programming languages jcamins actually likes |
| 04:07 | eythian | PHP I'm sure |
| 04:07 | dcook | :p |
| 04:07 | likes = doesn't hate | |
| 04:08 | I've had a friend recently say that she despises web programming as well. Given the current state of the world, I often wonder what this means... | |
| 04:08 | Well, in her case, she tends to just program enough to make her machines work, but in terms of on going development... | |
| 04:09 | jcamins | dcook: I liked working with C, to be honest. |
| 04:09 | And a limited subset of C++ was okay. | |
| 04:09 | Hmm. | |
| 04:09 | mtompset joined #koha | |
| 04:09 | jcamins | Very limited. |
| 04:10 | quocuy | sorry, just wanna say, i found it. The IrcLog.pm use mysql.conf file, but it was wrong, so i added my database into this file, and it works |
| 04:10 | tamayaom joined #koha | |
| 04:10 | eythian | quocuy: cool |
| 04:10 | mtompset | Greetings, Manny, you made it. :) |
| 04:10 | tamayaom | wow |
| 04:10 | quocuy | thanks |
| 04:11 | mtompset | Greetings, jcamins. |
| 04:11 | * jcamins | curses. |
| 04:11 | jcamins | I HATE JAVASCRIPT! |
| 04:11 | quocuy | :) |
| 04:11 | jcamins | An array and a hash are exactly the same thing as far as the language is concerned, except they have to be treated differently? |
| 04:11 | mtompset | first question? |
| 04:11 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 04:11 | mtompset | second question? |
| 04:11 | wahanui | i heard second question was "What is the exact error message?" |
| 04:11 | mtompset | third questions? |
| 04:12 | third question? | |
| 04:12 | wahanui | third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/[…]ion-koha-running/ |
| 04:12 | mtompset | fourth question? |
| 04:12 | wahanui | hmmm... fourth question is "Are we there yet?" |
| 04:12 | * mtompset | laughs, "I like that fourth question." |
| 04:12 | eythian | jcamins: well, an Array is a special object |
| 04:12 | every object is a hash | |
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| 04:22 | quocuy | sorry, after install ilbot, what is next? what should i do with this widget "<iframe width="550" height="350" scrolling="no" src="http://widget.mibbit.com/?sett[…]0for%20Vietnamese"></iframe>" |
| 04:26 | eythian | you will have to work out how to point it at your channel. |
| 04:27 | quocuy | my server is irc.dreamlib.vn, you can check it, but when i use it, it could not connect |
| 04:28 | eythian | You're going to have to configure it to do what you want |
| 04:28 | e.g. listen in your IRC channel | |
| 04:30 | quocuy | https://widgetmanager.mibbit.com/index.php |
| 04:31 | eythian | OK, you'll have to do some reading on how IRC and OFTC work, as mibbit is hiding stuff from you that will probably be confusing. |
| 04:32 | quocuy | yes, exacty. OK, i'll take a look now |
| 04:32 | eythian | In particlar you'll have to give the ilbot your server name (irc.oftc.net) and your channel name (not sure what that is) |
| 04:34 | * mtompset | waves bye, "Have a good day (24 hour period)!" |
| 04:35 | dcook | Got to love when national companies have Java errors printing all over their web pages... |
| 04:35 | Fills me with confidence in their online services... | |
| 04:35 | jcamins | Remember, quocuy, we're Koha developers not IRC bot developers. I, for example, have never even considered trying to run an IRC bot. |
| 04:37 | quocuy | Ok, i just trying to use it to run a koha-background in vietnamese |
| 04:38 | * jcamins | supports that, but can't help with administering it. I simply do without logging on other IRC channels. |
| 04:40 | quocuy | yes. Thanks for your helping! It's time to go to university now, 8'40AM. See U all again! |
| 04:40 | BB | |
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| 05:28 | cait | hi #koha |
| 05:32 | dcook | hey cait :) |
| 05:32 | cait | hi dcook :) |
| 05:33 | dcook | Good day so far? ;) |
| 05:36 | cait | hm slept through 2 alarm clocks... but apart from that :) |
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| 05:41 | alohabot | Hi mib_subqcn, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
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| 05:58 | cait | dcook: how are you? |
| 05:59 | dcook | cait: Alas, busy as always. Wishing I had more time to work on Koha, but have other projects on the go. |
| 06:00 | cait | ah |
| 06:00 | hope they go well :) | |
| 06:00 | dcook | On the plus side, I borrowed a PC box, so I'm hoping to install Koha via Debian packages later this week at home ^_^ |
| 06:00 | Thanks, cait :) | |
| 06:02 | How about you? How was Marseille? | |
| 06:03 | Looks like lots got done on the bug front! | |
| 06:03 | cait | yep quite a busy week |
| 06:03 | and some more since we are back | |
| 06:03 | the lists look a bit less duanting right now | |
| 06:05 | dcook | Agreed. I like how the dashboard also shows the number of bugs and sorts by bug status |
| 06:06 | While there are still quite a few needing sign off, there are only 29 bugs...and quite a few of those look pretty straightforward | |
| 06:15 | cait | yeah :) it's getting better |
| 06:15 | sorry, getting ready for work | |
| 06:16 | dcook | No worries. I'm just about to head to the park to read my book |
| 06:17 | rangi | evening |
| 06:17 | cait | nice |
| 06:17 | too cold here for that | |
| 06:17 | evening rangi | |
| 06:17 | dcook | China Miéville's 'The City & The City'. Generic crime fiction with a splash of sci fi |
| 06:18 | It's autumn here though, so it'll be too cold soon enough. Jealous of your looming spring ;) | |
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| 06:18 | dcook | night rangi and cait |
| 06:18 | hi Oak :) | |
| 06:18 | cait | looming spring... |
| 06:18 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 06:18 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on April 02, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.69 in 1005 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:19 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 06:19 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (7:00 PM NZDT on April 02, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:19 | cait | you win :) |
| 06:19 | * Oak | waves |
| 06:21 | cait | heya Oak :) |
| 06:36 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #91 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 06:39 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:45 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:47 | cait | bbl :) |
| 06:54 | rangi | ni reiveune , Oak and alex_a |
| 06:54 | alex_a | hello rangi |
| 06:55 | reiveune | hi rangi |
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| 07:04 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:05 | Dalian1 | Hi, I want to know if Koha offers this feature that allows library staff when they scan the ISBN barcode it will retrieve for them some bibliographic informations about the book. This option seems very appreciated by library users with other ILS. |
| 07:06 | Hello ! what do you think ? | |
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| 07:09 | rangi | yes it does |
| 07:09 | and it has for years ;) | |
| 07:09 | francharb | good morning |
| 07:10 | rangi | hi francharb |
| 07:10 | francharb | 0/ rangi |
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| 07:13 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
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| 07:18 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #91: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/91/ |
| 07:18 | Kyle M Hall: Bug 9928 - no way to see all purchase suggestions at all [3.10.x] | |
| 07:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9928 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , no way to see all purchase suggestions at all |
| 07:19 | Oak | hello rangi :) |
| 07:20 | Bonjour kf, alex_a | |
| 07:20 | Bonjour reiveune and all | |
| 07:20 | alex_a | salut Oak |
| 07:20 | reiveune | salut Oak |
| 07:20 | Oak | :) |
| 07:20 | Dalian1 | So just to make sure about this feature, with Koha it is possible to scan the ISBN barcode and then it will create right away a bibliographic notice for the book. Do you know from where this bibliographic information comes from ? |
| 07:23 | rangi | where you set it up to come from |
| 07:23 | kf | hi all |
| 07:24 | rangi | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]n.html#z3950admin |
| 07:43 | i wonder if someone could look at bug 6506 | |
| 07:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6506 critical, P5 - low, ---, peterAtKohaBugzilla, Needs Signoff , deleting patron history missing errors |
| 07:43 | rangi | i can't sign off on it |
| 07:44 | or bug 4862 | |
| 07:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4862 minor, P5 - low, ---, liz, Needs Signoff , "Browse by subject" is misnamed |
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| 07:58 | rewangbhutan | hi |
| 07:58 | wahanui | hello, rewangbhutan |
| 07:58 | rewangbhutan | how r u |
| 07:59 | hi u there | |
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| 08:28 | mtj | rangi, i'll give 6506 a whirl |
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| 08:32 | Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9954 - CVS profile encoding not selected in edition | |
| 08:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9954 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , CSV profile encoding not selected on editing |
| 08:32 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #293 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 08:34 | rangi | thanks mtj |
| 08:50 | mtj | np, signed off ^^ |
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| 08:51 | rangi | hi Viktor |
| 08:52 | Viktor | hi rangi |
| 08:57 | mtj | rangi, 4862 signed-off too... |
| 08:57 | heya Viktor :) | |
| 08:58 | Viktor | Hi mtj! |
| 08:59 | rangi | yay! |
| 09:02 | Dalian1 | Thank you for your help. Cheers ! ; ) |
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| 09:11 | Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9954 - CVS profile encoding not selected in edition | |
| 09:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9954 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , CSV profile encoding not selected on editing |
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| 10:50 | drojf | good day #koha |
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| 11:07 | kf | hi drojf :) |
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| 12:19 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:23 | Joubu: I know you did a lot of work on getting the uk_date sort working on many pages, but I think the sort on title attribute is probably the method we should use | |
| 12:24 | Especially if we're doing more date-formatting in the template now with a plugin. | |
| 12:24 | jcamins | oleonard: do you have a list somewhere of all the jQuery/jQueryUI widgets that we use on the OPAC, and where to find an example? |
| 12:25 | oleonard | There is a list on the wiki, although it may need to be updated. |
| 12:25 | coding guidelines? | |
| 12:25 | wahanui | coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
| 12:25 | oleonard | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_jQueryUI_widgets |
| 12:25 | I haven't revisited that page in a while | |
| 12:26 | jcamins | That's for the intranet, isn't it? |
| 12:27 | oleonard | Yes, it was written from that point of view. |
| 12:27 | jcamins | Okay... I don't know how to run the SIP unit tests. |
| 12:27 | oleonard | jcamins: What would you like to see? |
| 12:27 | jcamins | Do I care? |
| 12:28 | oleonard: I need to look at bug 9572, and I want to make sure I don't miss any widgets we use on some obscure page. | |
| 12:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9572 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Opac info tooltip from branches is not well positioned |
| 12:28 | oleonard | Ah. |
| 12:29 | jcamins | I know we use tab widgets on the detail pages, and datepickers on the member entry page, but I don't know if there are other things. |
| 12:29 | oleonard | I don't think there's anything else. I'll double-check. |
| 12:30 | Joubu | oleonard: yes, no problem. It was in order to understand what you really want to do. |
| 12:30 | I think it is a little bit odd to have a span containg data for sorting. But it doesn't really bother me. | |
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| 12:33 | alohabot | Hi mib_nqsyrg, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
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| 12:36 | Nicole C. Engard: add plugin permissions | |
| 12:36 | oleonard | jcamins: I don't see any other jQueryUI use in the OPAC besides tabs and datepickers |
| 12:39 | jcamins | Well, good. That's nice and easy. |
| 12:44 | oleonard: didn't we have a little calendar icon to indicate a datepicker in the OPAC previously? | |
| 12:44 | oleonard | Yes, do you not see it? |
| 12:44 | * oleonard | checks |
| 12:44 | jcamins | I do not. |
| 12:44 | It's not on master, either. | |
| 12:45 | kf | hm it's in ccsr |
| 12:45 | i tested it because it was broken there | |
| 12:45 | jcamins | It is in CCSR. |
| 12:45 | kf | do you allow hold dates in future? |
| 12:45 | jcamins | Both before and after 9572. |
| 12:45 | kf | it's on the hold page |
| 12:45 | jcamins | I'm looking at the date of birth datepicker. |
| 12:46 | kf | oh, i did check it on the holds page |
| 12:46 | maybe we forgot to implement it there? | |
| 12:46 | oleonard | Yeah I don't see it there either. But I don't know that I ever saw it there before. |
| 12:47 | jcamins | We remembered on CCSR. |
| 12:47 | But as long as I'm not going crazy, I don't mind. | |
| 12:47 | Hm. | |
| 12:47 | The jQueryUI upgrade breaks the ratings under CCSR. | |
| 12:47 | Oh, wait... | |
| 12:48 | I see. | |
| 12:48 | I think the jQuery tooltip thing needs to be added. | |
| 12:49 | oleonard | The OPAC patron update page doesn't include calendar.inc where some datepicker defaults are set (like the icon image) |
| 12:49 | jcamins | Actually, I think it just needs to be put somewhere else. |
| 12:49 | Wait, no, it's in lib. | |
| 12:49 | I was looking at the wrong path. | |
| 12:50 | Or... | |
| 12:50 | hm. | |
| 12:51 | Ah. | |
| 12:51 | ... no. | |
| 12:52 | oleonard | The patron entry form in the OPAC discriminates against people who are over 120 years old. |
| 12:53 | jcamins | We should move jQueryUI out of the theme directory. |
| 12:54 | oleonard | I'm still waiting on Bug 9172 :P |
| 12:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9172 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Move TinyMCE library outside of language-specific directory |
| 12:54 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 12:55 | * kf | takes the liberty to mark it as a bug |
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| 12:55 | oleonard | (not that they conflict) |
| 12:55 | kf | there is a comment from mason about deleting one line |
| 13:00 | jcamins | git++ |
| 13:00 | git show --color=auto --word-diff | |
| 13:01 | kf | git++ |
| 13:04 | jcamins | Okay, time to head into the city. |
| 13:04 | Bye. | |
| 13:04 | kf | bye jcamins |
| 13:04 | oleonard | I see the lines which mason talks about, but I also see similar instances elsewhere in Koha |
| 13:04 | nengard | anyone want some easy sign offs / QA - the help files are done and 1/2 signed off |
| 13:04 | bug 9850 | |
| 13:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9850 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , Koha 3.12 Help Files Update |
| 13:04 | oleonard | #========================= at line 537 of authorities.pl |
| 13:05 | Doesn't that line cause the same problem? | |
| 13:05 | kf | oleonard: I woudl guess so |
| 13:05 | the qa script only looks at the files the patch touches | |
| 13:06 | oleonard | I don't really want to change those lines in tiny_mce_gzip.pl because that's part of the TinyMCE package |
| 13:06 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1133 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1131 2 days 7 hr ago) |
| 13:06 | kf | oleonard: makes sense to me - not it on the bug |
| 13:07 | oleonard: is it the qa script that fails or the normal test suite? | |
| 13:07 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_2835' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2cbeeb0916f151661> / Bug 2835 - Inconsistent use of colon at the end of sentences <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5e7e866eb02d4671a> / Merge branch 'bug_9947' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…];a=commitdiff;h=d |
| 13:07 | oleonard | I think it's the qa script kf |
| 13:08 | kf | oleonard: that's good, so jenkins won't complain |
| 13:19 | * oleonard | is happy everyone got their way on Bug 9571 |
| 13:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9571 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen |
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| 13:22 | David | Hello .. I am receiving emails from the koha listserv .. but when I send I never get my message and do not get replies... but I do see other people's messages.. can someone help? Email is david.w.hartmandisney.com .. and sending to : Kohalists.katipo.co.nz |
| 13:23 | kf | hi David |
| 13:23 | have you checked you are properly subscribed to the list? | |
| 13:23 | David | Hi |
| 13:23 | wahanui | privet, David |
| 13:23 | kf | I think htat you don't get your own emails is a configuration thing |
| 13:23 | David | How do I check that? |
| 13:23 | I receive the other emails' | |
| 13:24 | kf | try to log in here: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha |
| 13:24 | David | privet wahanui .. are you in Russia? |
| 13:24 | oleonard | wahanui is a bot |
| 13:24 | kf | David: wahanui is our friendly bot - he helps us remember things and greets |
| 13:25 | mailing lists? | |
| 13:25 | wahanui | mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 13:25 | kf | see :) |
| 13:27 | David | Ok, I just started over and requested a new username and password. Thanks all! |
| 13:28 | kf | hope it helps |
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| 14:11 | chris_n | kf: patch for bug 9535 awaits sign-off |
| 14:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9535 major, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Patron card creator "Remove duplicates" function doesn't work |
| 14:15 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 14:15 | Project Koha_master build #1133: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1133/ | |
| 14:15 | * Adrien Saurat: Bug 9952: translation of the "tab 0" in MARC detail | |
| 14:15 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9571 [Alternate] Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen | |
| 14:15 | * David Cook: Bug 9571 - Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen | |
| 14:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9952 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , MARC tab: tab 0 is not translated correctly |
| 14:15 | jenkins_koha | * Adrien Saurat: Bug 9838: fix on 04patron_status.t |
| 14:15 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9609: Rebuilding zebra reports double number of exported records. | |
| 14:15 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9572 - Opac info tooltip from branches is not well positioned | |
| 14:15 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9572 follow-up: duplicate jQueryUI upgrade in CCSR | |
| 14:15 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9947 - Creating item for received serial prefills enumchron subfield | |
| 14:15 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 2835 - Inconsistent use of colon at the end of sentences | |
| 14:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9571 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen |
| 14:15 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9838 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , SIP tests : fix in 04patron_status.t | |
| 14:15 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9609 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Rebuild zebra reports double numbers for exported records with -z option | |
| 14:15 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9572 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Opac info tooltip from branches is not well positioned | |
| 14:15 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9947 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Creating item for received serial prefills enumchron subfield | |
| 14:15 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2835 trivial, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Inconsistent use of colon at the end of sentences | |
| 14:15 | drojf | if i made a patch for master to add or change zebra indexes (grs1), what would be the correct way to do the same for DOM? recreate biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml from the changed record.abs file and then recreate biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl from that and file a patch with the new versions of these files? |
| 14:15 | kf | chris_n++ :) |
| 14:15 | drojf: nope, don't do that | |
| 14:16 | jcamins: ping? | |
| 14:16 | drojf: as I understood, the scripts are for record.abs to indexdefs thing were only thought to be used for migration of the indexes | |
| 14:16 | not for later use | |
| 14:17 | i think probaly only the second step? jared would know or gmcharlt | |
| 14:17 | drojf | isn't that kind of what i am trying to do? migrate a newer version |
| 14:17 | kf | I think I meant introducing the new dom indexing |
| 14:17 | I think we have fixed some things in the xml file since | |
| 14:18 | drojf | oh if that is the case i shouldn't be doing it that way, that is true |
| 14:18 | * oleonard | will test 9535 so that kf might qa it |
| 14:19 | drojf | i could add it manually of course, but the file said it was generated so i thought adding things manually seems wrong |
| 14:20 | only the xsl says it is generated, the other only has comments about lines in record.abs | |
| 14:25 | i think you are right kf, making changes manually and then running xsltproc koha-indexdefs-to-zebra.xsl for the second part is what seems to be the correct way | |
| 14:30 | gmcharlt | right, for producing biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl |
| 14:30 | there would be a case to be made, actually for not keeping biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl in the repository, and just generating it when needed during installs | |
| 14:30 | * jcamins | would support that case. |
| 14:31 | drojf | makes sense |
| 14:35 | jcamins | So, anything interesting happen while I was on the subway? |
| 14:37 | oleonard | We fixed all the bugs. |
| 14:38 | nengard | I need git help again ... shocker |
| 14:38 | I need to get manual3.10.x back to match what's in git | |
| 14:38 | Auto-merging en/manual.xml | |
| 14:38 | CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in en/manual.xml | |
| 14:38 | Automatic merge failed; fix conflicts and then commit the result. | |
| 14:38 | I don't care about the conflicts - I don't want those changes | |
| 14:38 | jcamins | Excellent. |
| 14:39 | nengard: git reset --hard origin/3.10.x | |
| 14:39 | Or whatever your remote or branch is called. | |
| 14:39 | nengard | geeze - I need to write that one down :) |
| 14:39 | thanks | |
| 14:40 | jcamins | And note that if you do that the changes will not be recoverable. |
| 14:40 | nengard | don't care :) |
| 14:40 | don't want them | |
| 14:41 | they're all wrong | |
| 14:41 | :) | |
| 14:41 | jcamins | Okay. |
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| 14:41 | jcamins | Just thought I should caution you about that. |
| 14:41 | Because that command is way more destructive than the usual reset. | |
| 14:45 | * chris_n | wonders what brand of bug spray oleonard is using today |
| 14:47 | jcamins | chris_n: do you happen to remember what the symptoms of bug 5366 were? |
| 14:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5366 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Koha does not work right with MariaDB |
| 14:47 | chris_n | jcamins: I was attempting to recall the particulars, but cannot |
| 14:48 | mariadb syntax enforcement is more strict | |
| 14:48 | iirc | |
| 14:48 | jcamins | Yeah, I'm just surprised I haven't noticed those problems. |
| 14:48 | chris_n | I think there is a patch or two floating around |
| 14:48 | jcamins | Yeah, they're on that bug. |
| 14:49 | :) | |
| 14:49 | chris_n | actually they may have been committed |
| 14:49 | jcamins | I don't think so. |
| 14:49 | * chris_n | is really out of touch, sorry |
| 14:49 | jcamins | I think I tried applying them and they still applied. |
| 14:49 | chris_n | I don't have mariadb on a dev machine atm or I would retest |
| 14:49 | but if it works for you, maybe it was something data-wise for me | |
| 14:50 | jcamins | Well, I couldn't say for sure that it works for me. |
| 14:50 | I'm using Plack so half the time things don't work anyway. | |
| 14:51 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #316 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 14:51 | chris_n | I seem to recall that inserts were not working as expected causing koha to either throw errors or fail silently... |
| 14:51 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Docs build #316: SUCCESS in 20 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/316/ |
| 14:51 | * Nicole C. Engard: update info on upgarding a child patron | |
| 14:51 | * Nicole C. Engard: update patron images | |
| 14:51 | * Nicole C. Engard: update more patron module images | |
| 14:51 | chris_n | and that's not a lot of help |
| 14:52 | jcamins | Well, either I'll try and figure out what was going on, or we'll wait until someone else encounters the same problem. |
| 14:52 | Probably the latter. | |
| 14:52 | Or, I suppose, we could simply test the patches for regressions and push them. | |
| 14:52 | Maybe that's the way to go. | |
| 14:53 | Oh, wait. | |
| 14:53 | It's import. | |
| 14:53 | chris_n | look back at my patches does not invoke any revelatory memories |
| 14:54 | jcamins | Maybe that's related to... |
| 14:54 | @query plack | |
| 14:54 | chris_n | except that not null fields should probably have defaults assigned |
| 14:54 | huginn | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7172 major, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Omnibus for Plack variable scoping problems |
| 14:54 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8866 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Plack - remove unneeded dbh->disconnects OMNIBUS | |
| 14:54 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8908 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Starman/Plack hangs when faced with zombie Zebra | |
| 14:54 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8970 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , MARC import gives error under Starman/Plack | |
| 14:54 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9048 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Quote editor does not work under Plack | |
| 14:54 | jcamins | Bug 8970. |
| 14:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8970 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , MARC import gives error under Starman/Plack |
| 14:55 | chris_n | wow... a zombie zebra |
| 14:56 | live ones are bad enough | |
| 14:56 | jcamins: it seems the patches are pretty benign; there is some debug foo which should probably be removed from them | |
| 14:57 | otherwise they should not introduce any regressions | |
| 14:59 | jcamins | Yeah, that's what I was thinking. |
| 15:10 | oleonard | nengard: There are a few lines in your patch for circ help files which change "library" to "branch." Was that intentional? |
| 15:11 | nengard | i copied from the manual |
| 15:11 | so it must be like that in the manual | |
| 15:11 | and someone updated the help for 3.10 but not the manual :) | |
| 15:11 | I can submit a follow up | |
| 15:11 | after i update the manual | |
| 15:12 | oleonard | Okay |
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| 15:16 | clkirby | I'm new to Koha. I saw there was an RFC for "Batch Modification Biblio Record Level". Has this been developed? |
| 15:16 | jcamins | I believe it failed QA, and will be reconsidered for Koha 3.14. |
| 15:17 | However, there is some code, so the prognosis is not bad. :) | |
| 15:18 | oleonard | Bug 5725 |
| 15:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Batch modifications for Biblios |
| 15:20 | jcamins | I think there is another related bug. |
| 15:20 | @query modification | |
| 15:20 | huginn | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1088 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , expand independant branches functionallity |
| 15:20 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=737 enhancement, P2, ---, magnus, NEW , Map of library in search system | |
| 15:20 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6532 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , way to move items in batches | |
| 15:20 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6546 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Batch modification tool should accept a biblionumber | |
| 15:20 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6668 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Marc batch edit will freeze after deselecting all items and saving, | |
| 15:20 | oleonard | Bug 8015? |
| 15:20 | jcamins | @query marc modification |
| 15:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8015 enhancement, P4, ---, kyle.m.hall, ASSIGNED , Add MARC Modifications Templates |
| 15:20 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 15:20 | huginn | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6668 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Marc batch edit will freeze after deselecting all items and saving, |
| 15:20 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8015 enhancement, P4, ---, kyle.m.hall, ASSIGNED , Add MARC Modifications Templates | |
| 15:20 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2774 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Path to theme is hard-coded in many places | |
| 15:20 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8304 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Signed Off , composed authorities Rameau management | |
| 15:20 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , updatedatabase improvements | |
| 15:21 | oleonard | Yes, 5725 is marked as depending on 8015 |
| 15:21 | jcamins | Oh, I thought they were opposing implementations. Huh. |
| 15:22 | oleonard | I think they might be actually |
| 15:22 | kf | bye all |
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| 15:23 | oleonard | Is there an acceptable way of making a tiny correction to a patch as I sign off on it? Literally a one character text change. |
| 15:24 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:26 | drojf | oleonard: i think i have mentioned correcting a typo in a signoff message and gotten away with it |
| 15:27 | chris_n | oleonard: I have just noted the changes in the commit message as well |
| 15:27 | oleonard | Do you squash your commit, or what? |
| 15:27 | jcamins | Yeah, that is fine. |
| 15:27 | chris_n | squash |
| 15:28 | jcamins | Just amend the commit. |
| 15:31 | Or squash. | |
| 15:31 | As you prefer. | |
| 15:31 | Or squash. | |
| 15:31 | Bah. | |
| 15:31 | Key lag. | |
| 15:32 | oleonard | I don't think I understand what you mean by 'just amend the commit' jcamins |
| 15:32 | jcamins | If you make the changes, add the changed files using git add, if you use `git commit --amend` your changes will get added to the patch. |
| 15:32 | So you don't need to do a squash step. | |
| 15:33 | oleonard | Ah, the git add step is the one I wasn't thinking of |
| 15:33 | * oleonard | is too used to git commit -a |
| 15:39 | jcamins | I never use git commit -a. |
| 15:40 | git add -u sometimes, but never commit -a. | |
| 15:41 | drojf | what is wrong with commit -a? |
| 15:42 | jcamins | It will automatically delete files that I have removed from my working tree. |
| 15:42 | drojf | oh! |
| 15:43 | jcamins | Which, granted, is easy enough to fix with a simple reset, but I often delete PO files and regenerate them. |
| 15:46 | Robert Louis Stevenson wore the kind of tie that has two square ends and tied it so that the front-most end was shorter and a little to the left of the other. | |
| 15:46 | * jcamins | knows everyone was curious. |
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| 15:51 | drojf | jcamins: you had a tie club meeting? :) |
| 15:51 | jcamins | drojf: no, but a portrait of him was the frontispiece of a book I just cataloged. |
| 15:52 | drojf | slightly less fascinating now :P |
| 15:52 | jcamins | I bet there _is_ a tie meet-up in New York. |
| 15:57 | drojf | at a bar called "the tiebreaker" :D |
| 15:58 | jcamins | Heh. |
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| 16:00 | rambutan | http://tinyurl.com/d64ksfy #h-online discussion of MySql et al |
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| 16:35 | * drojf | goes home |
| 16:36 | rambutan | Experiences of Migrating to Open Source Integrated Library Systems de Vandana Singh |
| 16:37 | http://ejournals.bc.edu/ojs/in[…]article/view/2268 | |
| 16:38 | current issue of ITAL | |
| 16:40 | jcamins | Did they at least get the link to Koha right? |
| 16:41 | oleonard | There don't appear to be any links at all |
| 16:42 | jcamins | Well, at least they didn't get it wrong. |
| 16:43 | rambutan | No, I had to google all the links |
| 16:45 | concur | |
| 16:48 | * jcamins | goes to eat some lunch. |
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| 17:16 | rambutan | Galen Charlton is chair, LITA - Open Source Systems Interest Group? I don't recall that info crossing my desk. |
| 17:17 | jcamins | rambutan: that's what it said in the movers and shakers article. |
| 17:17 | rambutan | And I missed the poll. http://connect.ala.org/node/78698 ex post facto I vote for OpenSuse |
| 17:17 | I'm gonna have to start watching that LITA group better. | |
| 17:18 | * jcamins | gets a sense that no one actually cares about free *nix OSes. |
| 17:18 | gmcharlt | rambutan++ |
| 17:19 | rambutan | I usually go to the LITA conferences. |
| 17:19 | * cait | waves |
| 17:20 | rambutan | gmcharlt: are you going to the LITA conference in June? |
| 17:21 | hi cait | |
| 17:24 | gmcharlt | rambutan: yes, I'll be going to ALA Annual this year |
| 17:24 | jcamins | cait: "Folge"? |
| 17:24 | rambutan | I think I'll go see if mommy and daddy have any money to send me. |
| 17:25 | jcamins | "series" |
| 17:25 | LEO worked. | |
| 17:25 | cait | jcamins: now I feel replaced by a cheap online dictionary |
| 17:25 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 17:26 | I will make you feel better: | |
| 17:26 | What is capitalized in "Die Briefe an Gräfin Sizzo | |
| 17:26 | "? | |
| 17:26 | cait | looks correct |
| 17:26 | jcamins | \o/ |
| 17:26 | cait | the letters to countess(?) Sizzo |
| 17:27 | jcamins | Ah. Gräfin = female Graf? |
| 17:27 | cait | and now I feel like you don#t really need me :) |
| 17:27 | yep | |
| 17:27 | jcamins | Nifty! I learned a new German word! |
| 17:28 | cait | and such an.. useful one |
| 17:34 | khall | RFC: we have a library that would like to be able to type due dates in for circulation purposes, rather than being forced to use the calendar. I know this would open up the possibility for bad due dates to be entered. However, if it was a system preference that was off by default, would a patch to add this be allowed? |
| 17:34 | * khall | looks at cait |
| 17:34 | cait | why me? :) |
| 17:34 | jcamins | I would have no objection, for 3.14. |
| 17:34 | cait | I think you were able to do that and (bywater) killed it :) |
| 17:34 | because someone typed wrong due dates | |
| 17:34 | khall | cause your a tough customer ; ) |
| 17:35 | cait | khall: look for a bug report from melia |
| 17:35 | jcamins | Yeah, I seem to recall Melia reporting that as a bug. |
| 17:35 | I had always thought it a feature. | |
| 17:35 | khall | Yeah, I don't think it's a great idea, but if they are willing to take the risk while fully understanding the risk... |
| 17:35 | cait | me too |
| 17:35 | melia | and now that we've made it so that they can't type wrong due dates, someone is complaining that they liked typing it in better than using the calendar. sigh. |
| 17:35 | cait | melia: not your fault - libaries 123... |
| 17:36 | :) | |
| 17:36 | khall: didn't wnat to blame you - just saying I woudl like a pref for that | |
| 17:36 | khall | cait, definitely a pref. I wouldn't have it any other way! |
| 17:36 | jcamins | cait: "Gesichte von Friedrich von Schiller" or "Gedichte von Friedrich von Schiller"? |
| 17:36 | I think the first makes sense. | |
| 17:36 | melia | maybe sys pref with a note that you must type in a 4 digit year? or is it possible to only allow them to type in a 4 digit year? |
| 17:37 | cait | Geschichte or Gedichte |
| 17:37 | the story of or the lyrics from | |
| 17:37 | melia | (the probably before was that they typed just 2 digits for the year and got a due date in 1913 instead of 2013) |
| 17:37 | jcamins | Ah, probably gedichte then. |
| 17:37 | Thanks. | |
| 17:40 | cait | jcamins: could also be gesichter.... faces... |
| 17:40 | :P | |
| 17:40 | jcamins | lol |
| 17:40 | I think it's probably Gedichte. | |
| 17:40 | cait | but I guess you are probably right about the lyrics |
| 17:40 | :) | |
| 17:43 | melia: should be possible to check that with javascript - but has to take into account different date formats | |
| 17:45 | melia | yep that sounds good, cait |
| 17:49 | * druthb | chucks some Rice-a-Roni at melia. |
| 17:49 | melia | lol Rice-a-Roni |
| 17:49 | * druthb | thinks melia is a better San Francisco Treat than Rice-a-Roni. |
| 17:49 | melia | haha thanks druthb :) |
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| 18:08 | oleonard | Oh Liblime Academic Koha is up to 5.4! That version numbering shows real restraint. |
| 18:08 | jcamins | melia: are there any plans to release the RDA stylesheets that ByWater is using? |
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| 18:09 | melia | jcamins: you might ask nengard or bag or edveal about that when they're around, but none of them are here right now. I don't know much about RDA myself, sorry. |
| 18:10 | jcamins | Personally, I don't see the need for a custom stylesheet. |
| 18:10 | RDA isn't actually useful to real users. | |
| 18:10 | I'm just surprised to see ByWater advertising one. | |
| 18:10 | * druthb | loses the betting pool. She'd bet that someone would have pointed that out before now. |
| 18:10 | jcamins | druthb: I pointed that out years ago. |
| 18:10 | Then I ignored it. | |
| 18:11 | oleonard | rangi says it every chance he gets :) |
| 18:11 | jcamins | And now I'm going back to ignoring RDA. |
| 18:11 | druthb | 'bout as useful as a screen door on a submarine. |
| 18:11 | jcamins | lol |
| 18:11 | Do you have an endless supply of those "as useful as" analogies? | |
| 18:12 | druthb | not endless. But large. |
| 18:12 | Some suitable for mixed company, some not. | |
| 18:14 | rambutan | druthb: <submarine joke> <-- funny |
| 18:14 | jcamins | Hehe. .Dinner party disasters. That sounds like a fun book. |
| 18:14 | cait | or the poor horror :) |
| 18:15 | druthb | thanks, rambutan. :) |
| 18:19 | gmcharlt | thinking of doing a koha-community.org blog post similar to what I'm proposing to do for Evergreen: http://paste.lisp.org/display/136457#1 |
| 18:19 | I'd appreciate thoughts on the idea and the wording | |
| 18:19 | * jcamins | is all for it, and suggests changing the wording to mention Koha instaed of Evergreen. |
| 18:20 | gmcharlt | jcamins: well, yeah :) |
| 18:20 | oleonard | jcamins: :P |
| 18:22 | druthb | @quote random |
| 18:22 | huginn | druthb: Quote #144: "library_systems_guy: (xslt) looks like html and lisp had an ugly baby." (added by wizzyrea at 08:48 PM, June 30, 2011) |
| 18:31 | cait | gmcharlt: i like the idea |
| 18:31 | :) | |
| 18:32 | rangi | Hmm wasn't Jeff asking about all the koha API last week? |
| 18:32 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 18:33 | He's doing a presentation on library APIs and potential avenues for inter-ILS cooperation. | |
| 18:33 | I think. | |
| 18:33 | rangi | There's your list there gmcharlt :) |
| 18:34 | I'm pretty sure he got them all | |
| 18:34 | jcamins | I thought the goal was to find *users* of those APIs. |
| 18:34 | gmcharlt | jcamins: indeed, it is |
| 18:35 | and I have been talking with jeff as well | |
| 18:35 | rangi | Well having a list of them all is a good start, it looks like there are a few more than in the evergreen list |
| 18:36 | I like the idea | |
| 18:40 | My stop bbiab | |
| 18:46 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 18:46 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on April 03, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:46 | rangi | Gah |
| 18:46 | It really needs to rain for about 3 days solid | |
| 18:47 | jcamins | Still hasn't rained? |
| 18:48 | rangi | Not enough to be useful |
| 18:48 | cait | mostly cloudy... maybe there is hope? |
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| 18:56 | oleonard | Joining on biblio.biblionumber = items.itemnumber turns out to not be so useful. |
| 18:57 | cait | heh |
| 18:57 | long day? | |
| 18:57 | it was here | |
| 18:57 | * cait | is going to retest 7518 |
| 18:57 | cait | bug 7518 |
| 18:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7518 normal, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , searches with quotation marks don't work |
| 19:01 | rangi | back |
| 19:01 | cait | bah, my zebrea is annoying |
| 19:01 | not searching | |
| 19:01 | rangi | oleonard: did you see i think i fixed that 8278 one? |
| 19:02 | oleonard | Oh yeah, I did. Looks like it was something dumb which I should have caught :( |
| 19:02 | jcamins | Look on the good side... if you don't use Plack, a Zebra problem will probably not cause the server to go bananas. |
| 19:02 | * cait | reindexes |
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| 19:07 | cait | morning kathryn |
| 19:07 | kathryn | morning cait and all :) |
| 19:07 | greetings of the appropriate hour... | |
| 19:07 | cait | ugh |
| 19:07 | 21:07:10-02/04 zebraidx(9363) [warn] isamb: Inconsistent register (2) | |
| 19:07 | zebraidx: isamb.c:1102: insert_leaf: Assertion `*lookahead_mode' failed. | |
| 19:07 | ?? | |
| 19:08 | jcamins | I've seen that when ICU is configured wrong. |
| 19:08 | My usual solution is to just rerun the installer. | |
| 19:09 | cait | jcamins: I just did rerun the installer |
| 19:09 | jcamins | Ouch. |
| 19:09 | cait | to activate icu |
| 19:09 | jcamins | And you used -r? |
| 19:09 | cait | nope, but I am doing it with -r now |
| 19:09 | thx :) | |
| 19:09 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 19:09 | cait | hope it helps, waiting |
| 19:09 | jcamins | 15 hours to the meeting. |
| 19:10 | druthb | ooooh…middle-of-the-wee-hours, for us, then |
| 19:10 | cait | oh |
| 19:10 | voting meeting | |
| 19:10 | 15... | |
| 19:10 | jcamins | By the way, I'm number 6! |
| 19:10 | cait | ah, lunch time |
| 19:11 | jcamins | If I refuse to give over the master branch for another week or two, I could be number five! :) |
| 19:11 | I don't think I'll do that, though. | |
| 19:11 | oleonard | gmcharlt++ # for the reminder |
| 19:12 | * gmcharlt | stocks up on coffee |
| 19:12 | cait | jcamins: thought you already have it a bit longer? |
| 19:12 | jcamins | cait: I have it until I pass it off to gmcharlt. |
| 19:13 | cait | good news, reindex finished without werid messages this time :) |
| 19:13 | ok, bad news, my search still does not owrk :( | |
| 19:13 | jcamins | :( |
| 19:14 | cait | ideas welcome |
| 19:14 | can't do qa when zebra is sick | |
| 19:14 | rambutan | 5:00 am |
| 19:14 | jcamins | What changed? |
| 19:16 | cait | i reran the makefile process switching to icu |
| 19:16 | but I don't know if it worked earlier today | |
| 19:16 | jcamins | Well, when did it last work? |
| 19:16 | cait | hm |
| 19:16 | yesterday | |
| 19:16 | wahanui | yesterday is all wizzyrea's troubles seemed so far away |
| 19:16 | cait | lol |
| 19:16 | jcamins | And you restarted Zebra, right? |
| 19:16 | cait | yep |
| 19:16 | but doing it again to make sure | |
| 19:17 | no change | |
| 19:17 | how annoying | |
| 19:19 | rangi | hm 11pm tonight |
| 19:19 | cait | oh interesting |
| 19:19 | wahanui | interesting is, like, sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 19:19 | * druthb | pokes wahanui |
| 19:19 | cait | search is broken without queryparser |
| 19:20 | yep | |
| 19:20 | totally broken without query parser | |
| 19:20 | does that make any sense? | |
| 19:21 | jcamins | No. |
| 19:21 | And it worked with QP disabled for me yesterday. | |
| 19:22 | So if something new broke it, it's something I *just* pushed. | |
| 19:22 | Which should make it easy to revert. | |
| 19:22 | cait | maybe it's the combinaton of search prefs I have |
| 19:23 | jcamins | Such as auto-truncate with ICU? |
| 19:23 | cait | exactly |
| 19:23 | jcamins | Yeah, search works for me both with and without QP. |
| 19:23 | Tsk tsk. | |
| 19:23 | :P | |
| 19:23 | cait | wow |
| 19:23 | can I file that as bug? | |
| 19:24 | automatic truncating works | |
| 19:24 | not automatically truncating = search dies | |
| 19:26 | jcamins | Yes, that sounds like a bug. |
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| 19:26 | oleonard | But I fixed all the bugs this morning! |
| 19:26 | drnoe left #koha | |
| 19:26 | jcamins | It's supposed to be broken in the other direction. |
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| 19:29 | cait | jcamins: i amnot ure which I prefer |
| 19:29 | bug 9976 | |
| 19:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9976 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , QueryAutoTruncate can break search when ICU is activated |
| 19:29 | cait | but: the automatic truncation works. |
| 19:29 | the left truncation that is. | |
| 19:30 | Gesch finds geschichte without any problems | |
| 19:31 | * cait | wonders why oleonard is not a bug wrangler |
| 19:32 | cait | because he IS one |
| 19:32 | oleonard | I'll be a bug wrangler whether everyone wants me to be or not ;) |
| 19:32 | cait | magnus is the only one so far |
| 19:32 | trying to recruit some more :) | |
| 19:32 | gmcharlt | ninjas! |
| 19:33 | what we need are more bug ninjas! | |
| 19:33 | jcamins | I encouraged someone to run for bug wrangler. |
| 19:33 | cait | heh |
| 19:34 | oleonard | jcamins: Did Myshkin say he was more of a birder? |
| 19:35 | cait | bird wrangler? |
| 19:35 | jcamins | oleonard: yeah. |
| 19:35 | He's downright fierce when birds get close to the window. | |
| 19:36 | rangi | oleonard: RDA sux! (just reading back, didnt want to dissapoint you) |
| 19:37 | cait | I still can't reproduce bug 7518 |
| 19:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7518 normal, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , searches with quotation marks don't work |
| 19:37 | jcamins | Oh, right. |
| 19:37 | That's because you're using ICU. | |
| 19:37 | I just realized. | |
| 19:37 | cait | I was told I had to use icu to reproduce |
| 19:37 | i couldn't reproduce it with grs | |
| 19:38 | * cait | is confused now |
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| 19:38 | * druthb | blames talljoy |
| 19:38 | talljoy | lol |
| 19:38 | :-P | |
| 19:39 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 19:39 | I thought I fixed the problem with ICU. | |
| 19:40 | cait | jcamins: which of the many problems? |
| 19:40 | jcamins | The quotation mark problem. |
| 19:40 | I thought this was a patch for the "single double quotation mark in the middle of a CCL query when ICU is disabled results in breakage and misery" problem. | |
| 19:41 | Ignore me, because apparently it isn't. | |
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| 19:45 | cait | a single quotation mark? |
| 19:45 | * cait | tries that |
| 19:46 | jcamins | No, a single double quotation mark. |
| 19:46 | cait | yep, still looks fixed |
| 19:46 | jcamins | Well, good. |
| 19:46 | cait | gesch "drucktechnik |
| 19:46 | works | |
| 19:46 | jcamins | Ask Fridolyn to reconfirm the problem on master? |
| 19:49 | * cait | is mean and fails it for not being able to reproduce |
| 19:49 | cait | did exactly that |
| 19:49 | * druthb | ignores cait thinking she's being mean. |
| 20:11 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | byee! |
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| 21:25 | mtj | hey wizzyrea, you about? |
| 21:28 | eythian | mtj: she's not |
| 21:28 | mtj | heres a random idea... |
| 21:28 | eythian | mtj, jcamins: re the packaging changes: |
| 21:28 | mtj | what do people think about swapping out C4/Installer/PerlDependencies.pm with a nice human readable .yaml file |
| 21:28 | eythian | <dam> eythian: bad (unnecessary), if the version in perl-modules is enough |
| 21:28 | <Dom> dam: eythian: and will be a noop if they are unversioned (since the Provides will satisfy the dep) and catch http://lintian.debian.org/tags[…]fied-by-perl.html if versioned | |
| 21:29 | mtj | oooh, good info |
| 21:29 | eythian | so we should only do it if we need a newer version than that in perl-modules. |
| 21:30 | and if that happens, we need to make some changes anyway because the concept of that isn't supported. | |
| 21:31 | mtj | right |
| 21:31 | twas good to get a definative answer on that one | |
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| 21:50 | mtj | eythian, i'll change the packaging patch to do that then ^^ |
| 21:51 | eythian | to do versioning? |
| 21:52 | I wouldn't unless it was necessary, in which case I'd do it case-by-case. I'm not sure I trust Koha's dep versions as real minimums. You'll also have to check every one to make sure it matches up with the debian version (it should, but may not) | |
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| 22:13 | mtj | no no… to explicitly ignore alternative perl packages, and always use perl-module instead |
| 22:13 | eythian ^^ | |
| 22:13 | eythian | Ah right. |
| 22:14 | Well, if perl-modules is an option, then it should just ignore that dependency as we know it'll be there anyway | |
| 22:14 | mtj | yep |
| 22:14 | thats what a really meant | |
| 22:14 | s/a/i | |
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| 22:16 | jcamins | mtj: I think changing the format for dependencies is an excellent idea. |
| 22:16 | mtj | cool, me too... |
| 22:17 | jcamins | Ideally there should be some way to specify rpm and apt packages, for those dependencies which cannot be derived from the file name. |
| 22:18 | eythian | we can always derive them from the filename for apt. Not sure about rpm. |
| 22:18 | jcamins | eythian: there were a few packages you had special cased. |
| 22:18 | Did we manage to fix that? | |
| 22:19 | eythian | yeah, that was because I hadn't set the k-c repo to work with apt-file |
| 22:19 | it's fixed now | |
| 22:19 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 22:19 | Excellent! | |
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| 22:33 | jcamins | dcook: BTW, I pushed both your original patch and oleonard's counter-patch. Could you please just take a quick look and confirm it looks good to you? |
| 22:33 | dcook | jcamins: sure |
| 22:35 | jcamins | Thanks. It looked good to me in FF and Chrome on a Mac, but I know that Owen's counter-patch didn't look quite right to you. |
| 22:39 | dcook | I appreciate you taking the time to ask :) |
| 22:40 | Yeah, I thought the counter-patch was a bit off in FF and Chrome, so I preferred the CSS. | |
| 22:40 | This looks good though. | |
| 22:41 | bag | hey afternoon all |
| 22:41 | late start for me today | |
| 22:42 | dcook | hey bag |
| 22:42 | bag | hey there dcook |
| 22:42 | dcook | Have a good Easter? |
| 22:42 | bag | oh 3am meeting time for me…. don't think I will make it :( |
| 22:43 | yes Easter was nice - we had some lamb.. how about yours? | |
| 22:44 | jcamins | bag: good, I was planning on volunteering you for all the unpleasant tasks. :P |
| 22:44 | gmcharlt too. | |
| 22:44 | And melia. | |
| 22:44 | bag | sweet :) bring it on |
| 22:44 | melia | heh |
| 22:44 | bag | I'll split them up with melia and gmcharlt |
| 22:44 | dcook | It was pretty good. We had a spicy vegan nut loaf and roast veggies. And beer...a bottomless cooler of beer. |
| 22:44 | bag | HA nice |
| 22:45 | just a little white wine here | |
| 22:45 | jcamins | I keep on forgetting that it was Easter on Sunday. |
| 22:45 | bag | yeah we celebrate the meal and nothing more than that really. more excuses to cook a fancy sunday dinner |
| 22:46 | dcook | Same here, although now that I think about it...we had the Easter meal on Friday or Saturday (as folks had to work later in the weekend). |
| 22:47 | Sunday...I think that was spent bushwalking. Lots of wraps and chocolate. Finally tried out tempeh with some spices. Quite the fan now. | |
| 22:47 | Hmm 9pm meeting time. That's almost doable, except I have plans tonight. Foiled! | |
| 22:48 | * jcamins | adds dcook to the list of people he will volunteer for unpleasant tasks. |
| 22:48 | dcook | hehe |
| 22:49 | * eythian | plans to try to make it, what with all the delegation going on... |
| 22:49 | dcook | I wonder if I can use mibbit from my phone... |
| 22:49 | Might be bad form socially | |
| 22:50 | eythian | dcook: just install an IRC client on your phone. |
| 22:50 | * jcamins | waits impatiently for the pierogis to heat up. |
| 22:50 | dcook | eythian: Any that you would recommend? |
| 22:51 | O_O | |
| 22:51 | * dcook | is infinitely jealous of jcamins at this moment |
| 22:51 | eythian | dcook: I use AndChat. |
| 22:51 | it works well | |
| 22:51 | dcook | Australia is pretty great in a lot of ways, but they are woefully deficient in the pierogi department... |
| 22:51 | Sweet. I'll try it out, eythian :) | |
| 22:52 | I have a rather ancient smartphone, but finally upgraded to Gingerbread last night, so that seems to have improved things | |
| 22:54 | jcamins | dcook: they're really easy to make. |
| 22:55 | I mean, it took a while, unsurprisingly, since I made about 100. | |
| 22:55 | But it wasn't difficult. | |
| 22:55 | dcook | Are they good? |
| 22:55 | I've had many a subpar pierogi, so I'm a bit...jaded | |
| 22:55 | Mind you, no one can make them as well as my Ukrainian grandmother, so maybe I'm just spoiled | |
| 22:56 | She might be magic | |
| 22:56 | Not that I doubt your cooking abilities, jcamins :p | |
| 22:57 | jcamins | Very good. |
| 22:57 | I've had better, but that's the fault of what I put in them. | |
| 22:57 | Which was "oh, whatever I have on hand." | |
| 22:57 | * jcamins | goes to eat them! |
| 23:00 | dcook | Bon appétit! |
| 23:00 | Is this a recipe or jcamins' brain dish? | |
| 23:11 | jcamins | jcamins' brain. |
| 23:12 | Well, I might have used a recipe for the dough. | |
| 23:12 | Yeah, I think I did, actually. | |
| 23:13 | I followed the recipe in my Afghan cookbook. | |
| 23:14 | dcook | Delicious? |
| 23:17 | jcamins | Yes. |
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