| Time |
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| 00:17 |
jcamins |
Ginger-wasabi cookies are done. |
| 00:17 |
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Now for double-chocolate mint. |
| 01:54 |
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| 02:11 |
Dalian1 |
Hi, can we hide titles from OPAC ? we have textbooks we need to put them in the system in order to be able to make the check-out, check-in. Make reports for overdue textbooks, etc. These textbooks shouldnt appear in OPAC search. |
| 02:13 |
jcamins |
Dalian1: yes. Look up OPACSuppress in the manual. |
| 02:15 |
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It's very straightforward. |
| 02:15 |
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You set the syspref, and then you mark the records suppressed in field 852. |
| 02:15 |
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Ah- one thing. You have to suppress one record *before* turning on the syspref. |
| 02:15 |
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(at least one) |
| 02:26 |
Dalian1 |
Great. For now I will keep this answer but maybe I will be bakc on this issue later. Thank you ; ) |
| 04:11 |
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| 04:18 |
longrider |
HI |
| 04:18 |
wahanui |
bonjour, longrider |
| 04:18 |
longrider |
Anybody is here? |
| 04:19 |
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I have question regarding RFID With koha. |
| 04:20 |
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I have to integrate RFID with koha |
| 04:20 |
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How can I do that? |
| 04:20 |
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I found SIP server in koha. |
| 04:22 |
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I do not have SIP Elumator which connect SIP with RFID |
| 04:23 |
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Is there any open source SIP source SIP Elumator? |
| 04:23 |
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Hey wahanui |
| 04:23 |
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Do you have any Idea regarding this. |
| 04:49 |
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anyone |
| 06:09 |
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| 07:19 |
cait |
hi #koha |
| 07:27 |
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| 09:20 |
* Oak |
waves |
| 09:20 |
cait |
hey Oak |
| 09:20 |
Oak |
hey cait |
| 09:20 |
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how is marcus? |
| 09:20 |
cait |
hehe he is fine |
| 09:20 |
Oak |
:) |
| 09:21 |
cait |
was visiting his grandfather yesterday |
| 09:21 |
Oak |
cool |
| 09:21 |
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oh i get it |
| 09:59 |
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| 09:59 |
longrider |
HI |
| 10:00 |
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is anybody here? |
| 10:11 |
cait |
h longrider - probably not going to get crowded in here today |
| 10:11 |
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it's easter holiday |
| 10:11 |
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in europe |
| 10:21 |
longrider |
yah |
| 10:22 |
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hello cait are you here? |
| 10:22 |
cait |
yes |
| 10:23 |
longrider |
I have to integrate RFID with koha. |
| 10:24 |
cait |
yes |
| 10:24 |
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koha supports sip2 |
| 10:24 |
longrider |
my RFID supplier only provided me workstation driver |
| 10:24 |
cait |
are you using a self check machine or a reader at the circ desk? |
| 10:24 |
longrider |
How can in connect RFID with SIP2 server.? |
| 10:25 |
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I have reader at the circ desk. |
| 10:26 |
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I have not self check machine |
| 10:27 |
cait |
ah |
| 10:27 |
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then you won't need sip |
| 10:27 |
longrider |
I can connect koha with sip. |
| 10:27 |
cait |
at the circ desk sip probably won't work |
| 10:27 |
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you should really talk to your vendor about options |
| 10:28 |
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what some of our libraries do is using a small software from their vendor |
| 10:28 |
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that works with keyboar shortcuts |
| 10:28 |
longrider |
my vendor only provided me SDK and a demo software. |
| 10:28 |
cait |
so when they place books on the reader and press f5 or similar, the books are checked out |
| 10:28 |
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and f6 checked in |
| 10:29 |
longrider |
No |
| 10:29 |
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the did not provided me like that. |
| 10:29 |
cait |
so you place your cursor in the field for scanning the barcodes and then according to the key the books are .. sanitized or desanitized (and I probably spelled that wrong again) |
| 10:29 |
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vendors are different |
| 10:30 |
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maybe try the mailing list |
| 10:30 |
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and describe what kind of integration you want to do and what you got |
| 10:31 |
longrider |
At present I can only doing activate the tag and deactivate the with the demo software. |
| 10:31 |
cait |
i am not sure I can help you more |
| 10:32 |
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i told you what we do |
| 10:32 |
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but i don't know anything about the software you got |
| 10:32 |
longrider |
What type of software I needed for this. |
| 10:32 |
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Please tell me. |
| 10:33 |
cait |
i can't |
| 10:33 |
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you should really work with your vendor |
| 10:33 |
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or ask on the mailing list if someone has the same equipment |
| 10:33 |
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the audience ther eis much bigger than here |
| 10:34 |
longrider |
What type of information I have to write in RFID tag. |
| 10:34 |
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? |
| 10:35 |
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Another question I have to clear. |
| 10:37 |
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Is SIP only works with self check machine? |
| 10:39 |
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Is it like that If I use circ desk I do not need to use SIP? |
| 10:39 |
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Please tell me If you Know. |
| 10:41 |
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4Hey cait |
| 10:41 |
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4Please help me. |
| 10:41 |
cait |
longrider, I already tried helping you |
| 10:41 |
longrider |
4My vendor is not helping me |
| 10:41 |
cait |
but you will have to do some more research aobut how rfid works |
| 10:42 |
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before you start figuring it out with Koha |
| 10:42 |
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and as I said, i think asking your questions on the mialing list would be a good idea |
| 10:42 |
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not sure where you are located, but maybe there is a library nearby that could help you |
| 10:42 |
longrider |
4Is it like that If I use circ desk I do not need to use SIP? |
| 10:42 |
cait |
you don't need to no |
| 10:43 |
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but i am not quite sure if there are not programs now that can do it |
| 10:43 |
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we once had hat wth another ils |
| 10:43 |
longrider |
4Ok |
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| 12:15 |
oleonard |
Hi #koha |
| 12:15 |
cait |
hi oleonard :) |
| 12:29 |
nengard |
hiya all |
| 12:32 |
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| 12:34 |
cait |
hi nengard and druthb |
| 12:34 |
druthb |
Hi, cait! |
| 12:34 |
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| 12:36 |
* druthb |
waves to nengard and talljoy |
| 12:36 |
talljoy |
hi druthb! |
| 12:36 |
druthb |
@wunder 77063 |
| 12:36 |
huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 16.9°C (7:35 AM CDT on April 01, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:36 |
talljoy |
rainy? or just that humid? |
| 12:37 |
druthb |
Rained here yesterday afternoon, and overnight some. |
| 12:37 |
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Overcast and light fog now, expecting sun later. |
| 12:37 |
talljoy |
nice |
| 12:38 |
druthb |
Off-and-on chance of rain in the evenings all week here. It's the monsoon season, apparently. |
| 12:39 |
talljoy |
heh |
| 12:50 |
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| 13:26 |
* chris_n |
pokes jcamins |
| 13:27 |
cait |
chris_n: I think he just left |
| 13:28 |
chris_n |
well; I was going to query him as to the chances of getting the bug 9535 fix in 3.12 |
| 13:28 |
huginn |
04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9535 major, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED , Patron card creator "Remove duplicates" function doesn't work |
| 13:29 |
cait |
bug fixes can go in |
| 13:30 |
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we are only in feature freeze |
| 13:30 |
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and this is def a bug :) |
| 13:32 |
chris_n |
and its super-simple to fix to boot |
| 13:32 |
cait |
why were you wondering if ti could go in? |
| 13:33 |
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i looked at your comment but was not sure if I should try and make a patch, was hoping someone else might so I get to test it ) |
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| 13:53 |
chris_n |
cait: only wondering because I've lost track of where the release cycle is |
| 13:54 |
cait |
ah :) |
| 13:54 |
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no plenty of time for bug fixes |
| 13:54 |
chris_n |
it will be later in the week before I can munge up a patch due to scheduling |
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| 14:57 |
oleonard |
Last night must have been crazy. #koha is totally hung over today. |
| 15:06 |
* druthb |
is bleary-eyed |
| 15:07 |
datadoctor |
FYI: Peeps-infused vodka is a really bad idea. |
| 15:07 |
druthb |
I would suppose, too, that vodka-infused peeps are also a bad idea. |
| 15:07 |
datadoctor |
<chuckle> |
| 15:08 |
druthb |
Two fine things, best enjoyed separately. |
| 15:10 |
oleonard |
cait, I'm not sure what is going wrong for you with Bug 8278 |
| 15:10 |
huginn |
04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin |
| 15:10 |
cait |
oleonard: :( |
| 15:10 |
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i was afraid it was only me |
| 15:11 |
oleonard |
I guess the plugin must be tied to the right field because you're able to trigger the popup... |
| 15:11 |
cait |
it just won't autocomplete for me |
| 15:11 |
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ep |
| 15:11 |
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the popup pops up |
| 15:11 |
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i type letter by letter and after x it shows the little search symbol at the end |
| 15:11 |
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it just never suggests anything |
| 15:11 |
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altohugh i made sure those are in the database |
| 15:14 |
oleonard |
cait: Maybe check the JSON output of the script directly? /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/ysearch.pl?table=biblioitems&field=publishercode&term=Klett |
| 15:14 |
cait |
hm have to finish somethng else first |
| 15:14 |
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maybe in half an hour? |
| 15:15 |
oleonard |
No hurry. Thanks. |
| 15:19 |
* jcamins |
pokes back. |
| 15:28 |
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| 15:37 |
jcamins |
Hey, was there a syspref to hide certain fields from the notes box on the OPAC? |
| 15:38 |
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I feel like I saw something like that. |
| 15:38 |
cait |
yep |
| 15:38 |
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there is one |
| 15:38 |
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I translated the description |
| 15:39 |
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look for 5.. |
| 15:39 |
jcamins |
NotesBlacklist. |
| 15:39 |
cait |
yep |
| 15:39 |
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:) |
| 15:39 |
* cait |
thinks her brain is werid |
| 15:40 |
cait |
would be so much easier if I had remembered the name instead :) |
| 15:50 |
gmcharlt |
@quote random |
| 15:50 |
huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 03:28 PM, June 18, 2009) |
| 15:51 |
druthb |
@quote random |
| 15:51 |
huginn |
druthb: Quote #235: "libsysguy: I feel like working on koha is like cooking at the fire station. First one to complain is the next one to cook." (added by wizzyrea at 07:55 PM, March 07, 2013) |
| 15:56 |
datadoctor |
I'm loving the new Koha user interface for tablets, especially the animated logo: http://screencast.com/t/g6RMlECBrKp |
| 15:57 |
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so colorful... |
| 15:57 |
jcamins |
Animated logo? |
| 15:57 |
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| 15:57 |
jcamins |
Ummm... |
| 15:57 |
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Have I ever seen that before? |
| 15:57 |
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DId I push that? |
| 15:58 |
* druthb |
suggests that jcamins look at a calendar. |
| 15:58 |
cait |
datadoctor: great job :) |
| 15:58 |
jcamins |
lol |
| 15:58 |
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Thanks. |
| 15:58 |
cait |
druthb: tsk :) |
| 15:58 |
datadoctor |
How long do I wait before I drop the April fools? |
| 15:58 |
cait |
you let him off too easy |
| 15:58 |
jcamins |
datadoctor: well-played. |
| 15:58 |
druthb |
Having been tortured by such things a few too many times, I tend to be kind. |
| 15:58 |
cait |
we should put that on the blog :P |
| 15:59 |
jcamins |
Did you do that all with CSS? |
| 15:59 |
druthb |
Oh, totally! It's a good 'un. |
| 16:02 |
jcamins |
Okay, I have learned something useful. |
| 16:02 |
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Do not use Alt-arrow keys for previous and next shortcuts. |
| 16:03 |
maximep |
why not :S |
| 16:04 |
datadoctor |
With a little HTML5 you will be able to completely customize your interface for tablet, as well as adding a pac-man style animated game for slow times in reference. |
| 16:04 |
druthb |
datadoctor++ |
| 16:04 |
jcamins |
maximep: because you will make Mac users want to kill themselves. |
| 16:04 |
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| 16:04 |
* druthb |
waves to melia |
| 16:04 |
datadoctor |
No Alt key on Mac :( |
| 16:04 |
melia |
hiya druthb |
| 16:05 |
cait |
jcamins: and that's bad? *hide* |
| 16:05 |
jcamins |
datadoctor: yes there is. |
| 16:05 |
maximep |
what ? isn't there an alt on mac ? |
| 16:05 |
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also known as option |
| 16:05 |
jcamins |
Right next to the control. |
| 16:06 |
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cait: yes, that's bad. :P |
| 16:06 |
* cait |
makes a note about that being bad |
| 16:09 |
jcamins |
datadoctor: I'm legitimately curious about how you did that. Was that Photoshop, or did you use CSS to make a mockup? |
| 16:10 |
* cait |
thinks photoshop |
| 16:10 |
cait |
or gimp |
| 16:11 |
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there are white holes in koha and some of the other letters :) |
| 16:12 |
datadoctor |
I cut, pasted and colored with GIMP. I was thinking about how tablet users enjoy moving things around, and imagining that all the screen elements could be dragged around. It wouldn't be that hard to "skin" Koha using css backgrounds and style sets. Maybe that will be my next project! :) |
| 16:13 |
jcamins |
datadoctor: I actually like the idea of floating things like that on the tablet. |
| 16:15 |
oleonard |
Does "hard due date" work in conjunction with or instead of a set loan period? |
| 16:15 |
jcamins |
Either. |
| 16:15 |
datadoctor |
It is fun to drag items around on a tablet, however device detection is not standardized, so delivering the right content for the right device is difficult. |
| 16:15 |
oleonard |
Oh, so if you specify both they work together? "14 days or before 2013-04-30" ? |
| 16:15 |
jcamins |
Right. |
| 16:18 |
datadoctor |
We tend to use a one-interface-resizes-to-fit-all methodology - and tablets get caught in the middle between deskop-size and phone-size. |
| 16:20 |
cait |
oleonard: i am ready to retest now :) have yo time to guide me? :) |
| 16:20 |
oleonard |
Yes |
| 16:20 |
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cait: I was suggesting you check the JSON output of the script directly: /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/ysearch.pl?table=biblioitems&field=publishercode&term=Klett |
| 16:21 |
cait |
ok |
| 16:21 |
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so first have to find my branch |
| 16:22 |
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #314 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:22 |
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Project Koha_Docs build #314: SUCCESS in 1 min 7 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/314/ |
| 16:22 |
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* Nicole C. Engard: add plugin system |
| 16:22 |
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* Nicole C. Engard: fix typo |
| 16:23 |
cait |
oleonard: got the brnach, now checking configuration |
| 16:24 |
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oleonard: gives me nothing but an empy page |
| 16:24 |
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http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]ercode&term=Klett |
| 16:25 |
oleonard |
Weird, you should get some output even if there are no results |
| 16:26 |
cait |
is there anything else I can try? |
| 16:27 |
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hm weird |
| 16:28 |
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loading that page logs me out of koha? |
| 16:28 |
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session timed out |
| 16:28 |
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every time i load that link have to log in again |
| 16:29 |
oleonard |
Not for me. I wonder if that is part of the problem. |
| 16:29 |
cait |
sorry, totally out of ideas |
| 16:29 |
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I tried it again from cataloguing, still the same |
| 16:31 |
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oleonard: i will try in chromium |
| 16:32 |
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same |
| 16:33 |
oleonard |
Are you logging in as a superlibrarian? |
| 16:33 |
cait |
no |
| 16:33 |
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i always use an admin user without superlibrarian |
| 16:33 |
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because our libraries don't get superlibraian and I want to make sure I see what they see |
| 16:33 |
jcamins |
Вщуы ше цщкл зку-зфеср, |
| 16:34 |
cait |
wrong window? |
| 16:34 |
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or only wrong keyboard? :) |
| 16:34 |
jcamins |
Wrong keyboard. |
| 16:34 |
cait |
eah |
| 16:34 |
jcamins |
Does it work pre-patch? |
| 16:34 |
cait |
the russian made no sense |
| 16:34 |
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will try |
| 16:35 |
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no |
| 16:35 |
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nope |
| 16:35 |
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nothing |
| 16:36 |
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could someone else try? |
| 16:36 |
jcamins |
I have had intermittant problems with the auto-complete, but I was unable to say conlclusively it didn't work because I use Plack. |
| 16:36 |
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And it was not something I felt like troubleshooting. |
| 16:36 |
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Also, sometimes it works. |
| 16:36 |
cait |
where else do we have autocomplete? |
| 16:36 |
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i think somewhere in authorities? |
| 16:36 |
jcamins |
Yeah. |
| 16:37 |
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I don't remember exactly where, though. |
| 16:37 |
cait |
same |
| 16:37 |
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authority plugin |
| 16:37 |
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I get the little wheel |
| 16:37 |
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but no suggestions |
| 16:37 |
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meh. |
| 16:38 |
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ok |
| 16:38 |
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I get a bunch of errors when trying to do autocomplete with authorities |
| 16:39 |
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http://paste.koha-community.org/449 |
| 16:40 |
jcamins |
Hm. |
| 16:40 |
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Looks like a bug. |
| 16:41 |
cait |
and that's for autocomplete in 260: |
| 16:41 |
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http://paste.koha-community.org/450 |
| 16:41 |
jcamins |
If we're lucky, the problem is in C4 because I'm familiar with the authorities search code. |
| 16:42 |
cait |
maybe my weird data strikes again? |
| 16:42 |
jcamins |
Most likely. |
| 16:42 |
wahanui |
i guess most likely is not logrotated |
| 16:42 |
cait |
I have lots of saints and medieval names as authorities |
| 16:42 |
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got some of the manuscript data |
| 16:42 |
datadoctor |
Could it be something related to the specific bibliographic framework? |
| 16:42 |
jcamins |
Well- actually, based on the warning, I think it's bad input to the authority search routine. |
| 16:42 |
cait |
benedict von nursia and the like |
| 16:42 |
* cait |
didn't put bad input! |
| 16:42 |
cait |
:) |
| 16:42 |
jcamins |
But possibly due to the fact that you are trying to get it to autocomplete with the weird data you have. |
| 16:43 |
cait |
the 260 should not look at my weird authorities |
| 16:43 |
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and that's working neither |
| 16:43 |
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not working... hm |
| 16:45 |
jcamins |
If you were talking about a Soviet talking about the Soviet Union, would they say "Motherland" or "Fatherland"? |
| 16:46 |
cait |
?? |
| 16:46 |
oleonard |
cait: Looks like you're right to not test with superlibrarian, because I think that's part of the problem |
| 16:46 |
cait |
oleonard: interesting |
| 16:46 |
wahanui |
interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 16:46 |
oleonard |
I see the same problems as you if I log in as a regular user with cataloging privileges |
| 16:46 |
jcamins |
cait: I can't remember. |
| 16:46 |
nengard |
okay I belive I am done with bug 9850 |
| 16:46 |
cait |
oleonard: but that's great :) |
| 16:46 |
huginn |
04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9850 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , Koha 3.12 Help Files Update |
| 16:46 |
nengard |
just need a few more sign offs |
| 16:46 |
cait |
oleonard: because now I am not crazy! yay! |
| 16:47 |
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jcamins: I am not very soviet sorry |
| 16:47 |
nengard |
and then if the patch to put the version in the URL works for the translators I can apply that to all of the help files |
| 16:48 |
oleonard |
jcamins: http://www.googlefight.com/ind[…]soviet+motherland |
| 16:48 |
cait |
heh |
| 16:49 |
jcamins |
Thanks. |
| 16:52 |
cait |
so where are my patches? :P |
| 16:53 |
jcamins |
No idea. |
| 16:53 |
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Where? |
| 16:53 |
cait |
I meant hte autocomplete fixing patches :) |
| 16:54 |
jcamins |
Oh. |
| 16:54 |
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Well, they're not coming from me today. |
| 16:54 |
* cait |
makes a sad face |
| 17:01 |
oleonard |
I don't know enough about how it works to say smart words, but it looks like there's something about the cookie-based session handling that isn't working |
| 17:01 |
cait |
oleonard: sounds pretty smart to me |
| 17:02 |
jcamins |
bug 9904 |
| 17:02 |
huginn |
04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9904 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Link to plugins management should not be in global navigation |
| 17:03 |
oleonard |
Did I miss the fact that there isn't a link to plugins under 'Tools' ? Maybe I just assumed. |
| 17:03 |
cait |
oh |
| 17:03 |
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I assumed too :( |
| 17:04 |
oleonard |
Oh no it's there. |
| 17:05 |
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In what way are plugins a feature which require repeated day-to-day access? I ask because I honestly don't know. |
| 17:05 |
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khall? nengard_lunch? |
| 17:06 |
khall |
yo |
| 17:06 |
* jcamins |
goes to eat some lunch. |
| 17:06 |
oleonard |
khall: In what way are plugins a feature which require repeated day-to-day access? I ask because I honestly don't know. |
| 17:08 |
khall |
It's not that uploading plugins will be a daily affair, but accessing them certainly may be. The two existing links both filter the types of plugins. Removing that link removes the only way to access all plugins at once. If that link was removed, it should have been moved elsewhere instead. |
| 17:09 |
oleonard |
What two existing links? |
| 17:09 |
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Does the link in tools filter? |
| 17:09 |
khall |
the plugin link on the reports page, and the plugin link on the tools page. Yes, both filter |
| 17:10 |
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The example plugin shows in both because it is both a tool and a report. |
| 17:12 |
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This problem will be exacerbated if we add new functionality to the plugins system ( like barcode filtering ). We should definitely have a link that gives access to all the plugins at once |
| 17:13 |
jcamins |
Fennel salad is delicious! |
| 17:13 |
bag |
yay opening day of baseball!!! |
| 17:14 |
cait |
fennel_salad++ |
| 17:14 |
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khall: how does that work with permissions? |
| 17:14 |
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i think reports and tools are separate? |
| 17:15 |
khall |
right now there are permissions for running reports, running tools, configuring all plugins, and installing/uninstalling all pluggins |
| 17:15 |
cait |
so the link in the toolbar would be to install/uninstall |
| 17:15 |
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I am thinking |
| 17:15 |
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we could put that on the admin page maybe |
| 17:16 |
oleonard |
I still think this problem needs to be solved in a way other than adding to the global nav |
| 17:16 |
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You could offer more than one link on the tools page for instance |
| 17:16 |
khall |
that's what jcamins suggested, I am inclined to agree |
| 17:16 |
cait |
below the did you mean plugins |
| 17:16 |
khall |
I think the admin page would be more appropriate and less confusing |
| 17:16 |
cait |
similar enough for me that I woud look there |
| 17:17 |
jcamins |
I actually was not aware of the link in the global navigation at all when I tested it. |
| 17:17 |
cait |
what about.... khall offers a patch moving the link there... oleonard checks if it looks ok, I QA and jcamins pushes? :) |
| 17:17 |
jcamins |
I was going through the Tools section all along. |
| 17:17 |
nengard_lunch |
I didn't read all the way back - but here's how I see it. Plugins is a module - from the Plugins Module you can access the Tools Plugins and the Reports Plugins |
| 17:18 |
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otherwise you have to go to Tools or the Reports specifically to access the plugins |
| 17:18 |
cait |
nengard_lunch: you can only go in there if you can configure them |
| 17:18 |
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that sounds administration to me |
| 17:18 |
nengard_lunch |
I too made the mistake I think oleonard is - thinking that Plugins are tools |
| 17:18 |
jcamins |
Definitely sounds like administration. |
| 17:18 |
nengard_lunch |
There are Tools Plugins and there are Reports Plugins and there is a new Plugins module that is accessed to access them both |
| 17:18 |
cait |
no not access |
| 17:18 |
jcamins |
And in that dropdown on the home page they won't get found. |
| 17:18 |
oleonard |
How are plugins a module? Aren't they tools which help operations in other modules? |
| 17:18 |
cait |
you can only acess that if you are allowed to configure |
| 17:19 |
jcamins |
I think perhaps there are two bugs here. |
| 17:19 |
khall |
ok, I'll submit a patch to add the link to the administration |
| 17:19 |
nengard_lunch |
Administration makes sense |
| 17:19 |
cait |
I think reports, tools and configuration part in administration |
| 17:19 |
jcamins |
One is that the link should be in administration. |
| 17:20 |
khall |
put it this way, a normal librarian will never see the configuration and installation options, no matter where they look |
| 17:20 |
jcamins |
nengard is suggesting a second bug, which is that there is no centralized plugin space that doesn't require administrative privileges. |
| 17:20 |
khall |
but a plugin administrator will |
| 17:20 |
cait |
hm I think there is a separete permission now for circulation rules |
| 17:20 |
khall |
it would be silly to force the admin to look in two different places to see what plugins have been installed |
| 17:21 |
cait |
long term we could handle the administration page like we do with the tools page |
| 17:21 |
jcamins |
khall: agreed. I'm just thinking for 3.14 maybe there needs to be *another* page. |
| 17:22 |
khall |
jcamins, another page for what? |
| 17:22 |
jcamins |
khall: nengard just described users wanting to see all the plugins. |
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Right now, the only page that shows all types of plugins is for administration. |
| 17:23 |
khall |
ok, I think I understand |
| 17:23 |
jcamins |
That seems logical to me, but if, in fact, there is a situation where regular librarians need to see all plugins, there needs to be a new page to enable them to do that. |
| 17:23 |
cait |
i think it would all probably depend on he plugin functionality |
| 17:23 |
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where it really makes sense |
| 17:24 |
oleonard |
Are plugins used by accessing them directly from one of those lists? Or are they managed from those lists? |
| 17:24 |
khall |
That's pretty much what the link that was removed did |
| 17:24 |
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oleonard, both |
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If someone has plugins management rights, they see links for configuration and uninstallation |
| 17:24 |
* cait |
wants cookies |
| 17:25 |
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goes to search the kitchen for some |
| 17:25 |
khall |
so, it still sounds like the plugins link should be added back to the 'more' pulldown |
| 17:26 |
jcamins |
khall: I think there needs to be another page added for that link to point to. |
| 17:26 |
khall |
it can't go in admin, because the person may not have rights to that, it can't be in tools, because the person may not have rights to that, it can't be in reports because the person may not have rights to that either. |
| 17:26 |
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jcamins, I see. |
| 17:26 |
jcamins |
Something that anyone with any plugin permissions can see. |
| 17:27 |
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And probably get a link on the home page, because in that More menu, links might as well not exist, as far as I'm concerned. |
| 17:27 |
khall |
and that's what was removed! ; ) |
| 17:27 |
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Should we add it to mainpage.pl? |
| 17:27 |
jcamins |
That would be my preference. |
| 17:27 |
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If it's necessary to have it be global, it needs to be somewhere other than More. |
| 17:27 |
cait |
if it is on mainpage, it has to be in global somehow |
| 17:28 |
jcamins |
To me, "More" means "this is a duplicate link." |
| 17:28 |
khall |
ok. |
| 17:28 |
cait |
to me more is every module that is not circ patrons and search :) |
| 17:28 |
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so did we agree on something now? |
| 17:28 |
khall |
Does anyone know where the images for our mainpage 'buttons' are sourced from? |
| 17:28 |
cait |
yep |
| 17:28 |
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check the about page |
| 17:28 |
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you wil lhave to update this one |
| 17:28 |
khall |
thanks cait! |
| 17:29 |
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Ok, so now, should I add it to just mainpage.pl, or to that *and* 'More'? |
| 17:29 |
cait |
i think more is only a nother display for what can be accessed from global |
| 17:29 |
oleonard |
khall: What are some examples of plugins? |
| 17:29 |
cait |
but are we still talking about the configuration page? |
| 17:29 |
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or about a new page that shows all plugins installed together? |
| 17:30 |
khall |
oleonard, CCFLS is using something like a dozen plugins, but I'll have to rewrite them for the new system. |
| 17:30 |
cait |
and I meant mainpage and global navigation should be the same... (still no cookies) |
| 17:30 |
oleonard |
khall: Can you name a few plugins and tell me what they do? |
| 17:30 |
jcamins |
cait: what would cookies be used for? |
| 17:30 |
khall |
Examples: Catalog Card generator, Magazine generateor, overdues notice generator |
| 17:31 |
cait |
jcamins: to make me happier |
| 17:31 |
khall |
Access PAreport A Report of the data neccessary to fill out the Access PA report form.Kyle M Hall01/27/2009 |
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Acquisitions Reportreport Acquisitions ReportKyle M Hall02/24/2011 |
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Bulk Edit Item Locationstool A utility to edit item locations in bulk.Kyle M Hall03/08/2011 |
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Catalog Card Printertool A utility to print catalog cards.Kyle M Hall03/24/2009 |
| 17:31 |
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Clubs & Services - Active Membersreport Lists the patrons enrolled in a club or service, broken down by type and active/inactive.Kyle M Hall06/22/2010 |
| 17:31 |
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Clubs & Services - Members by Items Issued & Data1report Creates a table of member activity broken down by enrollment data1 and items issued.Kyle M Hall06/22/2010 |
| 17:31 |
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Clubs & Services - Patronsreport Lists the patrons enrolled in a club or service, with activity.Kyle M Hall06/22/2010 |
| 17:31 |
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Clubs & Services - Patrons by Municipalityreport List the number of enrolled patrons by Municipality.Kyle M Hall08/09/2011 |
| 17:31 |
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Daily Reportreport A daily report that displays useful statistics that vary day to day.Kyle M Hall01/27/2009 |
| 17:31 |
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Delete Items by Barcodetool A utility to delete items by scanning barcodes.Kyle M Hall01/27/2009 |
| 17:31 |
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Delete Magazinestool A utility to delete magazines in bulk.Kyle M Hall06/23/2010 |
| 17:31 |
oleonard |
What I'm thinking now is that we don't have a "plugins list" page for librarians, we just list the plugins themselves under reports and tools. List them by name, maybe in a separate box |
| 17:31 |
khall |
Expired Patronsreport Generates a list of patrons with expired cards.Kyle M Hall02/11/2009 |
| 17:31 |
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Inventory / Stocktakingtool A tool for taking inventory.Kyle M Hall11/04/2011 |
| 17:31 |
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Issues by Callnumber Range - Annualreport A report giving issuing activity over the last 12 months, broken down by category code.Kyle M Hall02/01/2009 |
| 17:31 |
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Issues by Category Code - 12 Month Analysisreport A report giving issuing activity over the last 12 months, broken down by category code.Kyle M Hall02/01/2009 |
| 17:31 |
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Issues by Category Codereport A report giving checkout/renewal activity over a given period of time, broken down by category code.Kyle M Hall06/08/2010 |
| 17:31 |
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Issues by Category Code ( All Categories ).report A report giving checkout/renewal activity over a given period of time, broken down by category code, including those with 0 issues.Kyle M Hall06/08/2010 |
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Issues by Item Typereport A report giving checkout activity over a given period of time, broken down by item type.Kyle M Hall02/01/2009 |
| 17:31 |
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Issues Listreport A report listing all checkout/renewal activity over a given period of time.Kyle M Hall07/16/2010 |
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Items by Callnumber Rangereport A report giving issuing activity over the last 12 months, broken down by category code.Kyle M Hall02/01/2009 |
| 17:32 |
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Items by Category Codereport A report giving the number of catalogued items for each category code.Kyle M Hall06/29/2010 |
| 17:32 |
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Items by Category Code with Activityreport A report giving the number of catalogued items for each category code, with the number of items which have been issued in the past 12 months.Kyle M Hall10/24/2011 |
| 17:32 |
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Items by Circulationreport A report for generating lists of items by circulation in a given period of time.Kyle M Hall01/28/2009 |
| 17:32 |
cait |
khall is spamming us |
| 17:32 |
khall |
Items by Issuesreport A report of items by number of issues.Kyle M Hall01/29/2009 |
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Items by Total Circulationreport A report for generating lists of items by circulation in a given period of time.Kyle M Hall01/28/2009 |
| 17:32 |
cait |
:P |
| 17:32 |
khall |
Last Used Item Barcodereport Displays the last used item barcode.Kyle M Hall02/11/2009 |
| 17:32 |
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Lost Itemsreport A report for generating lists of lost items.Kyle M Hall01/28/2009 |
| 17:32 |
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Materials by Copyright Datereport A report for generating lists of items by copyright date.Kyle M Hall01/28/2009 |
| 17:32 |
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Overdue Noticesreport This report generates a list of overdue notices based on the supplied information.Kyle M Hall02/17/2009 |
| 17:32 |
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Patrons by Age Groupreport A report that list patrons by age groupKyle M Hall01/27/2009 |
| 17:32 |
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Patrons by Categoryreport A breakdown of library patrons by category code.Kyle M Hall01/27/2009 |
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Generate Patrons Listreport Generates a list of patrons matching the given criteria, either in html or csv format.Kyle M Hall01/27/2009 |
| 17:32 |
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Periodicals Generatortool A tool to generate MARC files and label files for periodicals.Kyle M Hall12/13/2010 |
| 17:32 |
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Spine Label Printer (BML)tool A utility to print spine labels on standard label sheets.Kyle M Hall03/23/2009 |
| 17:32 |
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Spine Label Printer (MPL)tool A utility to print spine labels on standard label sheets.Kyle M Hall03/23/2009 |
| 17:32 |
oleonard |
Yeah okay that's enough. |
| 17:32 |
khall |
Ready Items for Shelvingtool A utility to clear temporary location and not for loan statusKyle M Hall03/08/2011 |
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Set Item Locationtool A utility to set an item's location quickly by scanning barcodes.Kyle M Hall11/30/2011 |
| 17:32 |
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Shelf List ( For Overdue Items )report This report generates a shelf list for checking for items accidentally re-shelved without being returned.Kyle M Hall02/16/2009 |
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Unused Item Barcode Gapsreport Lists the ranges of barcodes that have remained unused though barcodes exist later in the sequence.Kyle M Hall01/27/2009 |
| 17:32 |
cait |
stooop :) |
| 17:32 |
khall |
apologies ; ) |
| 17:32 |
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oleonard, I had thought of that, but the list could get very long |
| 17:32 |
oleonard |
I think "plugins" doesn't make much sense from a librarian point of view |
| 17:33 |
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So if some of these are things that will get frequent use, how can we incorporate them into the workflow sensibly? |
| 17:34 |
khall |
oleonard, I can imagine all the tool plugins having a 'block' under the existing 3 columns |
| 17:34 |
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if we can flow them from one column to the next that would look nice and be more like what you are thinking of |
| 17:35 |
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On the reports page, we have room for a 3rd column, so that would be simpler |
| 17:35 |
cait |
hm some of them look like they should be integrated n existing features/modules |
| 17:35 |
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or already are |
| 17:35 |
khall |
CCFLS is still running 3.0ish Koha |
| 17:38 |
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I'm working on getting them up to speed |
| 17:39 |
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ok, so I'll add a Plugins link to mainpage.pl for now. I can work with Owen to figure out a nicer way to display the installed plugins later |
| 17:41 |
cait |
khall: before you get to work on it - I think I would not like it to be only on mainpage |
| 17:42 |
khall |
cait, where else? |
| 17:42 |
cait |
mainpage mirrors what is in the global navigation |
| 17:42 |
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so if it was not htere, I think that would be confusing |
| 17:42 |
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I'd really like adminitration best for now I think |
| 17:42 |
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unti lwe figure it out |
| 17:42 |
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and without you having to change something about the way it works |
| 17:42 |
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jcamins: oleonard? |
| 17:42 |
wahanui |
oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! |
| 17:43 |
cait |
right... now they are all hiding |
| 17:43 |
oleonard |
I would think either tools or admin |
| 17:45 |
cait |
we could still change it for 3.14 - once we have a better idea how people are using them |
| 17:45 |
khall |
the problem being both of those require permissions a plugin admin may not have |
| 17:45 |
cait |
khall: why? |
| 17:45 |
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funds are on admin too and perm belongs to acquisitions |
| 17:45 |
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and there is a subpermission for circulation conditions now |
| 17:46 |
khall |
each of those pages have their own set of permissions required for access. Those permissions do not imply nor are implied by the permissions for plugin management |
| 17:46 |
cait |
not sure I get that |
| 17:46 |
khall |
cait, ok it sounds like there is precedence set, so I'll go for administration then |
| 17:47 |
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at least that way I don't have to find an icon ; ) |
| 17:47 |
cait |
maybe a puzzle piece |
| 17:50 |
* cait |
didn's say anything |
| 17:52 |
khall |
heh |
| 17:57 |
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http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9964 |
| 17:57 |
huginn |
04Bug 9964: minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add plugins management link to the Administration page |
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khall |
oleonard, I think this may be closer to what you are looking for: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9965 |
| 18:36 |
huginn |
04Bug 9965: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Improve integration of report plugins with existing reports |
| 18:37 |
oleonard |
khall: Are there existing reports plugins which work in master? |
| 18:39 |
khall |
I'm afraid not. I'll have to write some! |
| 18:39 |
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The one should be enough for testing purposes though |
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nguyenquocuy |
Hi every one |
| 19:11 |
oleonard |
Hi nguyenquocuy |
| 19:12 |
nguyenquocuy |
i'm joining this for the first time, Oleanard |
| 19:12 |
cait |
hi nguyenquocuy |
| 19:12 |
nguyenquocuy |
yes, i have a question, please help! |
| 19:13 |
oleonard |
We cannot help you nguyenquocuy. You have not asked a question! |
| 19:13 |
nguyenquocuy |
why not? |
| 19:14 |
oleonard |
Because you have not asked a question yet :) |
| 19:14 |
datadoctor |
that |
| 19:14 |
nguyenquocuy |
aha |
| 19:14 |
datadoctor |
is a good question |
| 19:15 |
cait |
nguyenquocuy: don't let them confuse you, just ask :) |
| 19:15 |
nguyenquocuy |
i installed koha packages on ubuntu, and made some instances. But one instance got long name (>9 letters), KOHA said, can't create... |
| 19:15 |
cait |
ah, I think I know why that is |
| 19:15 |
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thy mysql password can't be longer than x letters |
| 19:15 |
nguyenquocuy |
no, that;s not problem |
| 19:15 |
cait |
are you sure? |
| 19:16 |
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ah not the password |
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the username |
| 19:16 |
wahanui |
hmmm... the username is koha_instancename |
| 19:16 |
cait |
and the instances add some prefix to that |
| 19:16 |
nguyenquocuy |
problem is, that instance appears in koha-list |
| 19:16 |
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and the zebraserver stop working with that |
| 19:16 |
datadoctor |
The username and password may be limited to 16 characters each. |
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In mySQL |
| 19:17 |
nguyenquocuy |
yes, i know that, but why does it still appears in koha-list, and i can't remove it |
| 19:17 |
cait |
datadoctor: that's what I was told, and I think it automatically adds _koha or something to your instance name |
| 19:17 |
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so that would make 9 |
| 19:17 |
jcamins |
nguyenquocuy: it appears in koha-list because there is a directory in /etc/koha/sites/longinstance |
| 19:17 |
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*at |
| 19:18 |
nguyenquocuy |
so if i remove that folder, it will dissappear? |
| 19:18 |
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ok, give me 1 min to try |
| 19:19 |
jcamins |
You are also going to have a dangling file in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/longinstance |
| 19:19 |
wahanui |
okay, jcamins. |
| 19:19 |
jcamins |
you? |
| 19:19 |
cait |
you are? |
| 19:19 |
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You? |
| 19:19 |
wahanui |
You are welcome, I also tried the other - moving js out of translated paths or going to have a dangling file in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/longinstance |
| 19:19 |
cait |
ah |
| 19:19 |
nguyenquocuy |
ok, exactly jcamins, |
| 19:20 |
jcamins |
So if you remove the dangling symlink from Apache, you should be back to where you started. |
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And now you know to use shorter instance names. :) |
| 19:21 |
nguyenquocuy |
ok, understood. Thanks. And why does zebra server stop working with that? |
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jcamins |
Because it created the directory before configuring everything. |
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I think. |
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So Zebra was trying to load configuration files that didn't exist. |
| 19:22 |
cait |
good morning kathryn |
| 19:24 |
kathryn |
hello cait :) |
| 19:24 |
chris_n |
wahanui: forget You |
| 19:24 |
wahanui |
chris_n: I forgot you |
| 19:24 |
nguyenquocuy |
Oops, yes, when i type koha-rebuild-zebra..., i received "grep: /etc/apache2/sites-available/thhiepthanh3: No such file or directory" and " unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 360" |
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* chris_n |
thinks that may be bad english |
| 19:26 |
nguyenquocuy |
hello chris_n |
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i saw you lots of time in mailing list :) |
| 19:28 |
datadoctor |
nguyenquocuy, are you able to use zebra at this point? |
| 19:29 |
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In other words, how are your search results? |
| 19:29 |
nguyenquocuy |
now it's working. When i removed longinstancename, it works. |
| 19:29 |
datadoctor |
Great! |
| 19:30 |
nguyenquocuy |
i just don't know how to remove it before, and jcamins told me, remove folder in /etc/koha/sites |
| 19:30 |
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thanks all! |
| 19:31 |
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the " sudo koha-remove {instance}" doesn't work with longinstance name :) |
| 19:32 |
jcamins |
Yeah, it would be good to add more checking to koha-create and koha-remove. |
| 19:33 |
nguyenquocuy |
yes. I comes from vietnam. I have just taken a roll in Koha-Live DVD 3.14, and try to understand more about Koha, especially backup and zebra server |
| 19:34 |
jcamins |
Wait, what live DVD? |
| 19:36 |
nguyenquocuy |
yes, make Koha live DVD andCD |
| 19:37 |
jcamins |
Oh, I see. |
| 19:37 |
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I thought you were saying that you *installed* the live DVD for 3.14. |
| 19:37 |
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And that worried me, since 3.12 isn't out yet. :) |
| 19:37 |
nguyenquocuy |
i joined in team, leader by Virmal, he said i can do it in 3.14 |
| 19:37 |
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now is time for learning more and more :) |
| 19:37 |
jcamins |
Excellent! |
| 19:37 |
nguyenquocuy |
haha, sorry, my bad english |
| 19:38 |
jcamins |
No, I'm mostly focusing on other things. |
| 19:38 |
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So it's easy for me to misunderstand things. |
| 19:39 |
nguyenquocuy |
ok. i'm trying to make Koha be come popular in my country, it's not easy. |
| 19:39 |
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where do you come from, jcamins? |
| 19:39 |
jcamins |
I live in New York (city). |
| 19:40 |
nguyenquocuy |
i'm living in russia now, but i'm vietnamese |
| 19:40 |
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nice to see you! |
| 19:40 |
jcamins |
Где в России? |
| 19:40 |
datadoctor |
nguyenquocoy - Koha is one of the best open source softwares that I have seen. Everyone should try it! :) |
| 19:41 |
jcamins |
:) |
| 19:41 |
nguyenquocuy |
как ты по-руский говоришь? |
| 19:41 |
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классно |
| 19:42 |
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i'm living in Rostov-on-Don |
| 19:42 |
cait |
datadoctor++ heh :) |
| 19:42 |
nguyenquocuy |
yes, datadoctor, i agree with u |
| 19:42 |
jcamins |
Я изучал русски в университете. Сейчас же я перевожу русский плакаты. |
| 19:43 |
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I've only been in Russia for 10 days. |
| 19:43 |
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Moscow. |
| 19:43 |
nguyenquocuy |
when have you been in russia? |
| 19:43 |
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i have lived here for 6-7 years :) |
| 19:43 |
jcamins |
Wait. 17 days. |
| 19:43 |
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I was in Moscow for 17 days starting Christmas Eve 2007. |
| 19:43 |
nguyenquocuy |
finish university and now PhD |
| 19:44 |
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have u been in Red square? it was nice, wasn't it? |
| 19:45 |
jcamins |
It was. We went ice skating on Christmas day. |
| 19:45 |
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It was wonderful. |
| 19:45 |
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And cold. |
| 19:45 |
nguyenquocuy |
:) |
| 19:45 |
jcamins |
What are you studying? |
| 19:46 |
rangi |
morning |
| 19:46 |
nguyenquocuy |
electric-controll and information system |
| 19:46 |
cait |
morning rangi :) |
| 19:46 |
nguyenquocuy |
morning rangi |
| 19:46 |
jcamins |
Morning. |
| 19:46 |
wahanui |
Ah, morning. The cat must be wanting breakfast. |
| 19:47 |
chris_n |
the cat was scratching the door @ 2am this morning wanting breakfast :P |
| 19:48 |
druthb |
The last time my cat did that, I had a lengthy conversation with him, reminding him gently that in certain parts of the world, cat is a delicacy. |
| 19:49 |
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…and that Global Express shipping has gotten cheaper, of late. |
| 19:49 |
jcamins |
druthb: did he believe you? |
| 19:49 |
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Or did he say "I'm still bigger than you, feed me now!"? |
| 19:49 |
druthb |
He didn't, but his co-conspirator (the Pixel-cat) did.. |
| 19:49 |
* cait |
thinks druthb can probably be quite scary |
| 19:50 |
druthb |
naah! |
| 19:50 |
jcamins |
cait: yeah, but Captain Midnight is big enough that I suspect nothing short of a saber-tooth tiger would phase him. |
| 19:51 |
cait |
hmm |
| 19:51 |
druthb |
10 kg of fluff n bad attitude. |
| 19:52 |
jcamins |
Hard to say which is more prevalent? |
| 19:53 |
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nguyenquocuy: you'll notice that #koha tends to spend a lot of time talking about cats and food, particularly dessert. |
| 19:53 |
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It is possible that I may have something to do with this. |
| 19:54 |
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... on the subject of which, the wasabi-ginger chocolate chip cookies were a failure. |
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| 19:54 |
jcamins |
Not enough wasabi! |
| 19:54 |
druthb |
aw! |
| 19:54 |
nguyenquocuy |
it's Ok :) |
| 19:54 |
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it's time to relax |
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| 19:57 |
nguyenquocuy |
jcamins, i'm using koha 3.8.7 for testing, and wanna upgrade to 3.8.11, but when i type sudo apt-get update, i got this error |
| 19:57 |
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A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://debian.koha-community.org oldstable InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3C9356BBA2E41F10 W: Failed to fetch http://debian.koha-community.org/koha |
| 19:58 |
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what's up? |
| 19:58 |
jcamins |
Ah, yeah, we updated our signatures. |
| 19:58 |
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packages? |
| 19:58 |
wahanui |
i guess packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 19:59 |
jcamins |
^^ on that page there is a command that includes "apt-key" somewhere in it. |
| 19:59 |
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Rerun that command. |
| 19:59 |
nguyenquocuy |
not in http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages ? i often use this guide |
| 19:59 |
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ok, i'll check it |
| 20:00 |
jcamins |
It's probably in both. |
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| 20:03 |
nguyenquocuy |
i saw it, did it change recently? |
| 20:03 |
jcamins |
I'm not sure. I mostly ignore the installation instructions. |
| 20:03 |
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Actually, I mostly ignore the wiki. |
| 20:03 |
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Too many patches! |
| 20:05 |
nguyenquocuy |
yes, and where are u working now? |
| 20:05 |
* oleonard |
is spending too much time on Bug 8278 considering no one uses the feature |
| 20:05 |
huginn |
04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin |
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| 20:06 |
jcamins |
Right now I'm doing some translation and cataloging for a dealer in "vintage posters." Since I have my own business, I am somewhere different every day of the week. |
| 20:06 |
* oleonard |
wants to see the local cover images for that catalog! |
| 20:07 |
jcamins |
oleonard: it's not in Koha. :( |
| 20:07 |
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Actually, I'm doing a lot of the cataloging off of photographs. |
| 20:07 |
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They have a professional photographer. |
| 20:07 |
nguyenquocuy |
are u a programmer? jcamins |
| 20:07 |
jcamins |
It's nice. No trying to handle a 2m x 3m poster in a space the size of a bathtub. |
| 20:08 |
* cait |
giggles |
| 20:08 |
cait |
that would make a good video :) |
| 20:08 |
jcamins |
I would say "no," but given the amount of my code in Koha... I leave it for you to decide. :) |
| 20:08 |
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cait: hehe. |
| 20:09 |
cait |
oleonard: but more should probably - it's a nice feature :) |
| 20:09 |
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if it would work |
| 20:09 |
nguyenquocuy |
:) |
| 20:09 |
jcamins |
rangi: bug 9928 is for you. |
| 20:09 |
huginn |
04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9928 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , no way to see all purchase suggestions at all |
| 20:10 |
rangi |
thanks |
| 20:11 |
jcamins |
Thank you! |
| 20:11 |
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The more you take out of the PQA queue, the less I have! |
| 20:11 |
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I have 10. |
| 20:11 |
nguyenquocuy |
i have a website for public Koha in vietnam, how can i bring this windows (i mean irc chat) directly to my website? |
| 20:11 |
wizzyrea |
you can make a mibbit widget and have a connection that way |
| 20:11 |
jcamins |
I think mibbit is your best bet. |
| 20:11 |
nguyenquocuy |
or just need to point a link here? |
| 20:11 |
cait |
morning wizzyrea |
| 20:12 |
wizzyrea |
sec |
| 20:12 |
nguyenquocuy |
ok/ |
| 20:12 |
wizzyrea |
http://widget.mibbit.com/?sett[…]t&channel=%23koha |
| 20:12 |
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that link would probably do |
| 20:13 |
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there's also a widget on this page http://koha-community.org/get-involved/irc/ |
| 20:14 |
nguyenquocuy |
yes, i'm reading :) |
| 20:16 |
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is this widget, which we are using to chat here? |
| 20:16 |
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i'm in http://koha-community.org/get-involved/irc/ |
| 20:16 |
jcamins |
For the record, the people who came up with the idea of using "milliard" for "billion" (or vice versa) should be ashamed of themselves. |
| 20:17 |
oleonard |
rangi: There is some session-related weirdness with Bug 8278 that I though you might be able to help me with. I just added some details to the bug. |
| 20:17 |
huginn |
04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin |
| 20:17 |
rangi |
ill try to take a look oleonard |
| 20:17 |
oleonard |
Thanks |
| 20:18 |
* oleonard |
will see you all later |
| 20:18 |
wizzyrea |
milliard? |
| 20:21 |
jcamins |
wizzyrea: yeah, I blame the French. |
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| 20:25 |
Guest910 |
hello |
| 20:25 |
wizzyrea |
oh, guess it's working. |
| 20:25 |
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| 20:25 |
alohabot |
Hi mib_e4l0hc, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 20:26 |
mib_e4l0hc |
hello |
| 20:26 |
jcamins |
What's working? |
| 20:27 |
wizzyrea |
mibbit. |
| 20:27 |
mib_e4l0hc |
sorry, it's me nguyenquocuy, i'm testing with this widget in my website |
| 20:27 |
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it only works |
| 20:27 |
jcamins |
Ah. |
| 20:27 |
mib_e4l0hc |
how easily! |
| 20:27 |
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thanks |
| 20:30 |
wizzyrea |
:) you're welcome |
| 20:31 |
* jcamins |
heads home. |
| 20:31 |
wizzyrea |
later :) |
| 20:31 |
* druthb |
waves to wizzyrea, n sends a hi from her Minion, too |
| 20:32 |
wizzyrea |
hey! how's it goin? |
| 20:32 |
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how is the new job? |
| 20:32 |
druthb |
good, good! |
| 20:32 |
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Love it here. Great folks, doing neat things, good bennies, and the energy is just amazing, |
| 20:34 |
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Some things never change, though…I've inherited a project that no one else really wants. :P |
| 20:35 |
cait |
oh |
| 20:35 |
wizzyrea |
ah yep |
| 20:38 |
* druthb |
buzzes off for the day. see y'all soon! |
| 20:38 |
wizzyrea |
later! |
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alohabot |
Hi mib_lnbfj2, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 20:56 |
mib_lnbfj2 |
hi |
| 20:56 |
wahanui |
hello, mib_lnbfj2 |
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alohabot |
Hi mib_axn1yf, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
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alohabot |
Hi mib_usmqzv, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
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alohabot |
Hi mib_4y8mgc, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
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| 21:35 |
alohabot |
Hi mib_xble6z, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 21:35 |
* jcamins |
thinks someone is playing with mibbit. :) |
| 21:35 |
mib_xble6z |
it's me :), still learning something |
| 21:36 |
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sorry if disturb u :) |
| 21:36 |
jcamins |
Not at all. |
| 21:37 |
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I just think you're playing with mibbit. :) |
| 21:37 |
mib_xble6z |
:) |
| 21:39 |
jcamins |
Bah, humbug. All the patches that require review are difficult. |
| 21:39 |
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Okay, not quite all. |
| 21:48 |
mib_xble6z |
jcamins, i have a question :) |
| 21:48 |
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this is my new widget with mibbit |
| 21:48 |
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<iframe width="670" height="350" src="http://widget.mibbit.com/?sett[…]reamlib-community"></iframe> |
| 21:50 |
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i used the same server oftc.net as like here. My question is, does server save my chat with another in vietnamese? how can i access it? Here i see Koha logged, the chat every day |
| 21:51 |
jcamins |
No. You'd have to set up a log bot. |
| 21:51 |
mib_xble6z |
how? |
| 21:51 |
jcamins |
I don't really know how to do that. |
| 21:51 |
mib_xble6z |
yes, it seem not easily to figure out |
| 21:52 |
jcamins |
Here's a log bot: http://moritz.faui2k3.org/en/ilbot |
| 21:52 |
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gmcharlt: what do you use for your logbot? |
| 21:53 |
mib_xble6z |
so i have to install this thing in my VPS? |
| 21:53 |
jcamins |
Yes. |
| 21:53 |
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Though if you search you might be able to find hosted log bot services. |
| 21:53 |
mib_xble6z |
and what next? point widget to my server? |
| 21:54 |
gmcharlt |
jcamins: nothing :) rangi runs the logbot |
| 21:54 |
cjh |
there is also the public logs: http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 21:54 |
mib_xble6z |
thanks |
| 21:54 |
jcamins |
gmcharlt: yeah, but you run #evergreen's, don't you? And rangi isn't here. |
| 21:54 |
gmcharlt |
#koha's bot is http://moritz.faui2k3.org/en/ilbot |
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| 21:56 |
mib_xble6z |
yes, jcamins sent me this, so there is some works to finish. |
| 21:56 |
cait |
jcamins: why is rangi not here? |
| 21:57 |
jcamins |
cait: taking the kids to school? |
| 21:57 |
eythian |
I can see him from here |
| 21:57 |
cait |
heh |
| 21:57 |
jcamins |
Oh. |
| 21:57 |
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Never mind, then. |
| 21:57 |
cait |
he just ignores us :P |
| 21:57 |
rangi |
hmm? |
| 21:57 |
mib_xble6z |
:) |
| 21:58 |
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so after i install ilbot, what's next? |
| 21:58 |
* jcamins |
doesn't know, sorry. |
| 21:58 |
jcamins |
I think you tell the bot to log into your channel. |
| 21:59 |
cait |
hm why another logbot btw? |
| 21:59 |
wizzyrea |
has anyone else had an issue where pasting something into, say, opacnav, it doesn't get saved correctly? maybe that's an ubuntu only issue. |
| 21:59 |
jcamins |
wizzyrea: yes. |
| 21:59 |
cait |
wizzyrea: did yo have only one pref on that page? |
| 21:59 |
wizzyrea |
no |
| 21:59 |
cait |
because I had that happen yesterday |
| 21:59 |
jcamins |
I always thought it was a Mac-only issue. |
| 21:59 |
wizzyrea |
cool so it's not just me |
| 21:59 |
cait |
I couldn't reproduce it properly but it has happened |
| 21:59 |
mib_xble6z |
i have never faced that issue |
| 22:00 |
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i'm using ubuntu, too |
| 22:00 |
wizzyrea |
cool they tell me it's a browser thing |
| 22:00 |
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because there are no keyboard strokes |
| 22:00 |
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it doesn't detect that there's something to save |
| 22:00 |
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so just bang a space on the end or something. |
| 22:01 |
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they = eythian and rangi |
| 22:01 |
jcamins |
Yeah. |
| 22:01 |
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That was my workaround. |
| 22:01 |
gmcharlt |
Evergreen uses the SupyBot channel logger, and a local PHP script written by tsbere to display them: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?[…]ry;f=irc_logs.php |
| 22:02 |
* tsbere |
is not used to getting alerts from his IRC client for #koha discussions |
| 22:02 |
gmcharlt |
:) |
| 22:02 |
jcamins |
tsbere: you think that's weird, just wait until senator, Dyrcona, gmcharlt, and jeff are all talking in here. |
| 22:03 |
eythian |
wahanui: tsbere is <reply>if you say tsbere three times, he will appear. |
| 22:03 |
wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
| 22:03 |
senator |
boo |
| 22:03 |
* gmcharlt |
makes note to schedule next Evergreen dev meeting to be held in #koha ;) |
| 22:03 |
cait |
heh |
| 22:03 |
jcamins |
Guaranteed to give you a good three minutes of confusion while you wonder how your windows got swapped. |
| 22:03 |
mib_xble6z |
is there a package install ilbot? |
| 22:04 |
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in ubuntu, i hope. |
| 22:04 |
tsbere |
It was partially the timing of it all. I literally logged in remotely to grab a file I left on my desktop at the office and while I was opening folders the client pinged me. ;) |
| 22:05 |
jcamins |
mib_xble6z: doesn't look like it. |
| 22:06 |
gmcharlt |
mib_xble6z: looks like not |
| 22:07 |
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oops |
| 22:07 |
mib_xble6z |
ok, let me have a look at install guide |
| 22:17 |
cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 22:17 |
huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 2.0°C (12:00 AM CEST on April 02, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:18 |
eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
| 22:18 |
huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on April 02, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:19 |
wizzyrea |
is nice. |
| 22:19 |
eythian |
it's uncharacteristically warm for this time of year I think |
| 22:19 |
cait |
opposite here |
| 22:19 |
eythian |
yeah, we're keeping your summer sorry |
| 22:19 |
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you're not getting it back for a bit yet |
| 22:19 |
jcamins |
It's spring here. |
| 22:19 |
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It was *pouring* as I walked back from the subway. |
| 22:20 |
cait |
heh |
| 22:20 |
jcamins |
It stopped as I reached my building. |
| 22:20 |
cait |
eythian: hand over summer - I expect to see some spring tomorow! :) |
| 22:20 |
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and now i amgoing to sleep |
| 22:20 |
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night all |
| 22:20 |
wahanui |
goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
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| 22:20 |
wizzyrea |
lol <3 love that bot. |
| 22:20 |
eythian |
http://www.metservice.com/town[…]n/wellington-city <-- cait, done |
| 22:20 |
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oh |
| 22:21 |
* wizzyrea |
holds summer hostage in the southern hemisphere |
| 22:21 |
wizzyrea |
actually I'm about ready for a change :P |
| 22:22 |
eythian |
well, supposed to be three days of showers from tomorrow. |
| 22:22 |
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then back to normal |
| 22:23 |
ibeardslee |
howling southerlies with horizontal rain? |
| 22:24 |
eythian |
no, not that normal. The new normal. |
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| 22:38 |
jcamins |
Ugh. |
| 22:38 |
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I knew 6554 was going to be a problem. |
| 22:38 |
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On the plus side, after two days of on-and-off testing, I found the problem. |
| 22:39 |
eythian |
it looks like a big one, anyway |
| 22:39 |
jcamins |
Yeah. |
| 22:39 |
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Wait. |
| 22:39 |
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Actually, I found a different bug. |
| 22:39 |
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Hey, this is good! |
| 22:39 |
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I think 6554 passes! |
| 22:39 |
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damaged is a TINYINT. |
| 22:40 |
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Or... |
| 22:40 |
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Yes. |
| 22:40 |
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Also, authorized values aren't compatible with Plack. |
| 22:41 |
wizzyrea |
that is very not good. |
| 22:41 |
eythian |
that's an issue |
| 22:41 |
jcamins |
Well, I suppose they're compatible. |
| 22:41 |
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As long as you don't want to change them. |
| 22:41 |
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Ever. |
| 22:42 |
rangi |
sounds like an easy fix, change the in module cache to actually use a sensible caching mechanism and/or make setting one flush the cache (or inject the new value) |
| 22:43 |
jcamins |
Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure the problem is the pl files. |
| 22:43 |
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Or, at least, part of the problem. |
| 22:50 |
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Okay, I'm pushing 6554. |
| 22:50 |
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If there are problems, someone will spot them. |
| 22:51 |
rangi |
cait++ # 101 bugs passed QA last month from her and now look signed off is below 100, and below needs signoff for the first time in over a year |
| 22:51 |
bag |
awesome |
| 22:51 |
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cait++ |
| 22:52 |
wizzyrea |
\o/ that is serious winning. |
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cait++ |
| 22:53 |
jcamins |
And then there's 9572. |
| 22:54 |
wizzyrea |
bug 9572 |
| 22:54 |
huginn |
04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9572 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Opac info tooltip from branches is not well positioned |
| 22:54 |
jcamins |
And 9613. |
| 22:57 |
MrAgent075 |
cait++ [ woot!! :D ] |
| 22:57 |
wizzyrea |
bug 9613 |
| 22:57 |
huginn |
04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9613 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , items namespace missing in XSLT |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_6554' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]92e651f3aef588209> / Bug 6554 Followup for circulation patron search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]68af314985c80a1c7> / Bug 6554: Followup for preferences.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c78b905811ed4869a |
| 23:06 |
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1132 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 23:06 |
mib_xble6z |
sorry to jump into your conversation, can u tell me how to install module perl CGI in ubuntu server? |
| 23:06 |
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i used sudo cpan> install CGI , failed, |
| 23:07 |
jcamins |
Don't use CPAN. |
| 23:07 |
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Ever, really. |
| 23:07 |
mib_xble6z |
used sudo apt-get install libcgi-perl , failed |
| 23:07 |
wizzyrea |
how did it fail |
| 23:07 |
mib_xble6z |
koha mail:~$ sudo apt-get install libcgi-perl Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package libcgi-perl is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package 'libcgi-perl' has no insta |
| 23:08 |
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i'm trying to install ilbot in my VPS |
| 23:09 |
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yes, i often use sudo apt-get, but some time, doesn't work, so i tried cpan :) |
| 23:09 |
jcamins |
What I would do now is look at packages.ubuntu.com and search for CGI.pm. |
| 23:11 |
eythian |
libcgi-pm-perl |
| 23:12 |
mib_xble6z |
ok, give me 1 min to try |
| 23:12 |
eythian |
though, it's also provided by perl-modules |
| 23:12 |
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so you probably already have it |
| 23:12 |
mib_xble6z |
thanks, done |
| 23:12 |
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how to u find that? i still have some module can't install |
| 23:13 |
eythian |
$ apt-file search CGI.pm |
| 23:13 |
mib_xble6z |
ok |
| 23:17 |
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and if i wanna search for this Encode::Guess, what should i type? apt-file search Encode.pm? it has the same problem |
| 23:17 |
jcamins |
Guess.pm. |
| 23:18 |
mib_xble6z |
the last one? |
| 23:18 |
wahanui |
the last one is the first one if you look backwards. |
| 23:18 |
jcamins |
Yup. |
| 23:18 |
mib_xble6z |
oops, how interesting |
| 23:22 |
eythian |
or Encode/Guess.pm |
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if you want to be more specific |
| 23:22 |
mib_xble6z |
kohamail:~$ apt-file search Guess.pm libencode-perl: /usr/lib/perl5/Encode/Guess.pm libtext-csv-encoded-perl: /usr/share/perl5/Text/CSV/Encoded/Coder/EncodeGuess.pm perl: /usr/lib/perl/5.14.2/Encode/Guess.pm |
| 23:23 |
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there are 3 module, which to choose? |
| 23:24 |
eythian |
There are only two |
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the middle one isn't what you're looking for |
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and of the two, one is perl itself |
| 23:24 |
mib_xble6z |
ah, they are in /usr/lib/perl |
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| 23:43 |
jcamins |
mib_xble6z: why did you think the modules were missing? |
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eythian: BTW, any idea why mtj wrote a patch that installs the separately packaged modules? |
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I haven't seen him around in a while. |
| 23:44 |
mtj |
heya, jcamins - about :) |
| 23:45 |
jcamins |
mtj: oh, why did you write a patch changing the dependency to not be on perl-modules? I didn't follow what the difference was. |
| 23:46 |
mtj |
the idea is pretty simple, its based on the assumption that newer is better |
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thats about it… :p |
| 23:47 |
jcamins |
Hm. |
| 23:48 |
* jcamins |
is not sure he agrees with that assumption. |
| 23:48 |
jcamins |
I'm not sure I disagree, either. |
| 23:48 |
mtj |
if in doubt…. use the newer package |
| 23:49 |
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afaict, they have bug or security fixes |
| 23:51 |
eythian |
perl-modules will also get security fixes if needed |
| 23:51 |
jcamins |
I had understood that perl-modules was supposed to get security fixes too. |
| 23:51 |
eythian |
and in fact, on ubuntu it may get fixes where the individual package doesn't |
| 23:52 |
mtj |
well, the one thing i am curious/unsure about is…. why those fixes were not just added to perl-modules |
| 23:52 |
jcamins |
My understanding was that they hadn't necessarily been vetted for security. |
| 23:53 |
mtj |
… rather than creating a whole new package for the fix |
| 23:53 |
jcamins |
Not that I particularly follow these things. |
| 23:54 |
eythian |
On Ubuntu, CGI.pm won't get security updates because it's in universe, whereas the version in perl-modules will as it's in main. |
| 23:54 |
mtj |
hmm, well in that case… the older modules in perl-module may be more secure after all :) |
| 23:56 |
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ah, ok - thats a pretty good point |
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so, i guess the patch could be rewritten to force perl-module selection, rather than ignore it |
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| 23:57 |
eythian |
no, it should ignore it |
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> Other packages should not depend on `perl-modules' directly, they |
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should use `perl' (which depends on `perl-modules') instead. |
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Also, perl-modules has a bunch of "conflicts" and "replaces" which I'm a little afraid will make things quite complex |
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however I'll ask the debian perl people, see what they say |
| 23:59 |
mtj |
hmm, i mean ignore the alternate 'newer' package, and use the older module in perl-module |
