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| 01:10 | tcohen | has anyone successfully mocked two libs one depending on the other using Test::Mockmodule ? |
| 01:22 | Guest331 | I could hug whoever added the floating button on sysprefs. |
| 01:22 | * wizzyrea | guesses oleonard |
| 01:23 | cjh | heh |
| 01:26 | tcohen | and the marc subfields editor wizzyrea, please give a hug for that one too! |
| 01:27 | wizzyrea | YES, that is definitely in the cards when next we meet. |
| 01:27 | I am going to owe a lot of hugs for 3.12 I suspect | |
| 01:27 | which is TOTALLY OK | |
| 01:27 | * cjh | imagines a 'hug a wizzyrea' line at the next kohacon |
| 01:27 | wizzyrea | hm. |
| 01:27 | lol. | |
| 01:28 | I would hug every koha developer | |
| 01:28 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4NMoJcFd4 | |
| 01:28 | but you can't hug every cat | |
| 01:29 | tcohen | hahahah |
| 01:29 | bgkriegel | :) |
| 01:36 | tcohen | @wizzyrea this is florencio http://snag.gy/qLMAP.jpg |
| 01:36 | huginn | tcohen: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 01:37 | tcohen | wizzyrea this is florencio http://snag.gy/qLMAP.jpg |
| 01:38 | wizzyrea | that is a cute cat |
| 01:38 | I would hug that cat. | |
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| 02:20 | wizzyrea | mtj were you trying to get me earlier? |
| 02:22 | druthb | o/ |
| 02:22 | wizzyrea | hi druthb :) |
| 02:22 | druthb | hi, wizzyrea! :) |
| 03:07 | wizzyrea | Dear QA-ers, bug 9922 is now ready for you |
| 03:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9922 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , holds queue shows home library with AutomaticReturn |
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| 06:02 | dcook | Quick question...the Kohacon web form doesn't send out a registration confirmation, does it? |
| 06:08 | cait | dcook: hm it used to, but not sure how it's set up this year |
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| 06:08 | dcook | Hmm, good to know, cait :) |
| 06:09 | cait | or maybe not, not sure :) |
| 06:09 | actually, just ignore me :) | |
| 06:10 | dcook | lol |
| 06:10 | But I haven't talked to you in a while! | |
| 06:10 | So I'll take what I can get :p | |
| 06:11 | cait | it's not my fault you always run out on me :) |
| 06:12 | dcook | Touché :p. I should probablyl think about leaving again pretty soon. Movie watching and learning about cryptography :). |
| 06:14 | cait | ah |
| 06:14 | just for fun or for a project? | |
| 06:14 | cryptography | |
| 06:15 | dcook | Oh it's just for fun. A few nerd friends invited me along, and I thought it would be fun and good to know. |
| 06:28 | cait | ah |
| 06:28 | hm I can't reproduce 9922 | |
| 06:28 | bug 9922 | |
| 06:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9922 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , holds queue shows home library with AutomaticReturn |
| 06:28 | cait | which wizzyrea was here.... |
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| 06:37 | dcook | Hmm, I never noticed that syspref before |
| 06:38 | Got to run this time though. Good luck! Have a good one, cait. | |
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| 07:18 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
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| 07:33 | rangi | hmm im not sure its worth answering that person, since they appear to have not read a single response yet |
| 07:34 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:34 | rangi | hi reiveune |
| 07:35 | alex_a | hello |
| 07:35 | wahanui | niihau, alex_a |
| 07:36 | * kf | waves |
| 07:36 | kf | good morning/evening #koha |
| 07:37 | rangi | hi alex_a and kf |
| 07:38 | oh and christophe_c too | |
| 07:38 | alex_a | rangi: hi ! |
| 07:38 | christophe_c | hi rangi;-) |
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| 08:01 | rangi | ok, i need a biblibran |
| 08:02 | in terms of students/staff is Aix-Marseille Université the biggest one you know of, at 68,000 ? | |
| 08:02 | * kf | needs Joubu and or paul_p for a question too :) |
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| 08:23 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:24 | rangi | hi gaetan_B |
| 08:43 | hmm no one about? | |
| 08:44 | kf | gaetan_B is - but he is not in marseille |
| 08:44 | gaetan_B | hello kf :) need someone from Marseille ? |
| 08:45 | kf | gaetan_B: rangi asked earlier: in terms of students/staff is Aix-Marseille Université the biggest one you know of, at 68,000 ? |
| 08:45 | and I was hping to catch Joubu or paul_p about the missing unit tests for one of the features jared pushed | |
| 08:45 | because he will pull it out if we don't have unit tests | |
| 08:47 | gaetan_B | Aix/Marseille is probably the biggest we know |
| 08:47 | but i'll ask to make sure | |
| 08:48 | rangi | thank you gaetan_B |
| 08:49 | kf | gaetan_B++ :) |
| 08:50 | gaetan_B | rangi: you mean among libraries using Koha i guess ? not in terms of university ? |
| 08:50 | (because it's clearly not the biggest university in France) | |
| 08:51 | rangi | yeah, using koha |
| 08:51 | we had a 27,000 student uni thinking "we are too big" | |
| 08:52 | i just wanted to point out that there are much bigger ones using koha than that | |
| 08:52 | gaetan_B | so yes aix/marseille has to be the biggest we know of |
| 08:52 | they are pretty big indeed :) | |
| 08:52 | rangi | thanks |
| 08:52 | I know there is one in Bolivia, that has 65,000 | |
| 08:52 | and Adis Ababa university has 50,000 | |
| 08:53 | but so far Aix/Marseille still wins :) | |
| 08:53 | gaetan_B | \o/ |
| 08:53 | i didn't know Adis Ababa was using Koha! | |
| 08:53 | nice to read about it | |
| 08:54 | rangi | yup |
| 08:54 | there are a couple in ethiopia using koha | |
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| 08:55 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 08:55 | gaetan_B | kf: as for your question if Paul and Jonathan seem to be too busy to answer you here and the problem indeed is urgent, maybe send them a short email |
| 08:56 | rangi | gaetan_B: http://libcat.aau.edu.et/cgi-b[…]koha/opac-main.pl |
| 08:56 | kf | gaetan_B: yeah - probably a good idea |
| 08:57 | rangi | looks like aroudn 230k bibliographice records |
| 09:32 | clrh | Jonathan should be connected at the end of morning cc kf gaetan_B |
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| 09:41 | kf | hi clrh - thx :) |
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| 10:30 | kf | hi francharb` and frido_s :) |
| 10:32 | @later tell drojf - translated 3.8 and 3.10 and checked files, hopefully didn't miss any errors | |
| 10:32 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:32 | drojf | kf: you could have told me now ;) |
| 10:33 | kf | ah |
| 10:33 | you are never here... how would I know :P | |
| 10:33 | drojf | i have been here for hours |
| 10:33 | oh well, that is not true :D | |
| 10:33 | almost two | |
| 10:34 | kf++ | |
| 10:37 | Joubu | hello |
| 10:37 | kf | hi Joubu |
| 10:37 | Joubu | kf: about missing unit tests, I will do it today |
| 10:37 | kf | oh awesome |
| 10:37 | I was wondering if you might not be around or something and got a bit worried .) | |
| 10:38 | I would really like to keep the feature in :) | |
| 10:38 | Joubu | I was not available last 2 days |
| 10:38 | kf | ah |
| 10:38 | hope it's not too much | |
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| 10:44 | kf | drojf: started with OPAC 3.12 |
| 10:45 | drojf | i thought that should be done in may? |
| 10:45 | * drojf | is confused |
| 10:45 | kf | there are already updated files now |
| 10:45 | drojf | ok |
| 10:45 | kf | and I think OPAC won't change much now |
| 10:45 | but the help files are still missing | |
| 10:45 | drojf | those should be the biggest part, right? |
| 10:46 | kf | yep |
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| 11:17 | jcamins | kf: yes, bug 9811 needs unit tests. |
| 11:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9811 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Patrons search improvements |
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| 11:37 | ambz | greetigns |
| 11:37 | *greetings | |
| 11:38 | I have a question about cataloging a serial publication. | |
| 11:38 | jcamins | It's a trap! |
| 11:38 | ambz | Our library has around 100 issues of a periodical, which is published with a monthly frequency. |
| 11:39 | huh? | |
| 11:39 | jcamins | ambz: go on. |
| 11:39 | I dislike serials cataloging. | |
| 11:40 | ambz | jcamins: me too :) |
| 11:40 | I've created one MARC record to represent the serial and I've added a subscription to represent the influx of new issues. | |
| 11:41 | Can I bulk-add all the (hundreds of) back issues that the library already has. | |
| 11:41 | ? | |
| 11:41 | Or rather, how much of a bulk-add is possible. | |
| 11:41 | jcamins | What I would do is use manual history. |
| 11:42 | ambz | I don't quite follow... |
| 11:42 | jcamins | Huh. |
| 11:42 | There is no documentation on manual history. | |
| 11:43 | At least, none that I can see. | |
| 11:43 | If you edited the subscription, you'll see a checkbox that lets you choose "Manual history." | |
| 11:44 | ambz | Okay... |
| 11:44 | jcamins | If you click that, a bunch of boxes will appear that allow you to enter in a list of all the issues you have received. |
| 11:44 | Then in received issues you can enter in the list of issues you have. | |
| 11:55 | ambz | Right, so I checked "manual history" |
| 11:55 | But how do I receive issues en masse? | |
| 11:55 | jcamins | I don't believe you can, but I also don't know why you would. |
| 11:56 | I guess if you had items. | |
| 11:56 | ambz | Uh well, it would save someone the effort of manually adding hundreds of items... |
| 11:57 | If I could just add one item for each of the back issues, it would really help. | |
| 11:57 | jcamins | If you're using items and the barcodes are in the system, there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to avoid handling each and every one of them. |
| 11:57 | *aren't | |
| 11:57 | Personally, I don't use items for any serials that are issued more often than once a quarter. | |
| 11:58 | ambz | oh? |
| 11:58 | how do you manage them then? | |
| 11:58 | jcamins | Just using the serials module. |
| 11:59 | Most libraries I work with don't circulate serials until they've been bound. | |
| 11:59 | ambz | How would you check out a magazine that didn't have an item and a barcode? |
| 11:59 | jcamins | Right. That's the trick. |
| 11:59 | I wouldn't. I can't recall ever being at a library that did circulate magazines, either. | |
| 12:01 | ambz | Oh. |
| 12:01 | jcamins | If the items aren't already in the system, someone is going to have to scan the barcode associated with each one. |
| 12:02 | ambz | Right. |
| 12:02 | jcamins | If the items are already in the system, I see no reason why you can't just write "Issue 1 (July 2001)-Issue 200 (Whenever, 20xx)" in the manual history field, same as for serials that don't generate items. |
| 12:04 | ambz | Okay, so if you're not circulating magazines... what exactly are you using the serials module for? Just tracking subscriptions (this month's issue is late/missing/received)? |
| 12:05 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 12:05 | ambz | Oh. I see :) |
| 12:06 | jcamins | Do you ever get the magazines back when they circulate? |
| 12:06 | ambz | Why would most libraries choose to not circulate periodicals? (I'm thinking if our nascent library should also have a rule to forbid circulation of magazines)? |
| 12:07 | Magazines don't come back? | |
| 12:07 | Ouch. | |
| 12:07 | jcamins | Often not. |
| 12:07 | And everyone wants to read them at the exact same time. | |
| 12:08 | So the first person to get the magazine prevents every other patron from making use of the library's subscription. | |
| 12:09 | Even academic journals the only reason they generally get barcodes -- in my experience -- is so that they can be store off-site. | |
| 12:10 | *stored | |
| 12:10 | ambz | Makes sense, actually. |
| 12:10 | * ambz | is really glad he consulted jcamins today |
| 12:11 | jcamins | :) |
| 12:12 | ambz | Thanks a lot, I'm going to present all of this newfound information to our librarian and request her to not circulate periodicals. It will make life much easier too. Especially cataloging all of those 100s of magazines will be obviated now :D |
| 12:13 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 12:13 | Depending on your users it may make sense to circulate magazines... | |
| 12:13 | but I can't really imagine how. | |
| 12:14 | ambz | In our case, we have some rather valuable, hard-to-get issues of some magazines that shouldn't be lent out, now that I think about it. |
| 12:14 | So your advice fits my use case. | |
| 12:15 | kf | heh |
| 12:18 | jcamins: do you know if the database jenkins uses can be downloaded somewhere? | |
| 12:18 | I think jenkins has some additoinal data that are not in the sample data maybe? | |
| 12:23 | jcamins | kf: http://kohadev.cpbibliography.[…]jenkinsdb.sql.bz2 <-- missing a BK item type |
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| 12:24 | kf | cool thx jcamins |
| 12:24 | maybe we should put it somewhere for developers to use? | |
| 12:24 | jcamins | Probably. |
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| 12:30 | alohabot | Hi mib_s5rhdo, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 12:32 | ambz | jcamins: btw, I now have a working prototype of the GoogleBooks -->MARC adapter for importing into the Koha catalog. |
| 12:32 | would you like to check it out, if you have a few spare minutes? | |
| 12:40 | jcamins | ambz: awesome! |
| 12:40 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, jcamins |
| 12:41 | jcamins | I have to leave shortly, but what I'd suggest is opening a bug on bugzilla and posting the patch. |
| 12:42 | ambz | Great, I'll do that. Thanks :) |
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| 12:56 | H | Hy hoha question .... we did update the titel field for some records in mysql .... i did run a sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f but in the results the old titel is still there (the file itself is ok) anny tips |
| 12:58 | jcamins | H: yes, restore from your backup and update the MARC. |
| 12:58 | You cannot make changes via MySQL. | |
| 12:59 | H | it where like 24000 files who had to change |
| 12:59 | jcamins | Use MarcEdit or something like that. |
| 12:59 | Or write a script. | |
| 12:59 | H | can i not run a full reindex off zebra |
| 12:59 | jcamins | No you cannot. |
| 12:59 | Updating the fields in MySQL will not work. | |
| 13:00 | H | ... |
| 13:00 | would koha-rebuild-zebra --full koha-oe help ? | |
| 13:00 | jcamins | No. |
| 13:01 | Zebra does not use the data in the MySQL biblio table. | |
| 13:01 | Just the MARC. | |
| 13:02 | H | lucky we made a backup :) |
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| 13:03 | jcamins | Very! |
| 13:04 | * jcamins | is pro-backup. |
| 13:04 | H | anny tips how we can do it the database admin sitting next to me |
| 13:06 | jcamins | Take a look at the script in misc/maintenance/touch_all_biblios.pl. |
| 13:06 | You can copy that script and create a rename script. | |
| 13:09 | A lot of people just export all their records and edit them in MarcEdit, too. | |
| 13:09 | H | how does that work ? |
| 13:09 | can you take your items back with it ? | |
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| 13:10 | H | i did my original from marcedit |
| 13:10 | import | |
| 13:10 | jcamins | You can just tell Koha to ignore the items and overlay the bibs. |
| 13:11 | H | yes but can i match on title ? |
| 13:11 | jcamins | Yes, but I recommend against it. |
| 13:11 | You should match on biblionumber, in 999$c. | |
| 13:12 | H | not all my records have isbn numbers |
| 13:12 | ah | |
| 13:12 | jcamins | Okay, time to head into the city. |
| 13:12 | Good luck. | |
| 13:13 | H | thx for the information |
| 13:13 | :) | |
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| 13:15 | marcelr | hi koha |
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| 13:35 | rambutan | @seen bag |
| 13:35 | huginn | rambutan: bag was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 19 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <bag> oh hey hankbank |
| 13:36 | rambutan | @seen jcamins |
| 13:36 | huginn | rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 23 minutes and 32 seconds ago: <jcamins> Good luck. |
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| 13:36 | rambutan | @seen fred |
| 13:36 | huginn | rambutan: fred was last seen in #koha 2 years, 9 weeks, 6 days, 20 hours, 45 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <Fred> thanks a lot for ur help, bye all! |
| 13:37 | marcelr | @seen my keys |
| 13:37 | huginn | marcelr: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. |
| 13:37 | marcelr | :) |
| 13:49 | druthb | kf++ |
| 13:52 | hm. | |
| 13:53 | * druthb | gets out the velcro |
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| 14:07 | kf | druthb: what did I do? |
| 14:08 | druthb | wait…i need a reason to plus-plus you? |
| 14:08 | who knew? | |
| 14:08 | …but I do have one. Thanks for backing me up on translation stuff while I've been busy with the move! | |
| 14:08 | kf | tsk |
| 14:08 | oh | |
| 14:08 | sure thing | |
| 14:08 | hope it's all ok :) | |
| 14:09 | druthb | yep! |
| 14:09 | kf | marcelr++ :) |
| 14:09 | marcelr: thx for taking a look at the encoding stuff - much appreciated | |
| 14:20 | marcelr | kf++ |
| 14:21 | kf | Joubu++ too :) |
| 14:21 | jcamins | joubu++ |
| 14:21 | kf | RM happy? :) |
| 14:21 | marcelr | joubu++ |
| 14:21 | jcamins: how about my question on feature freeze? | |
| 14:22 | jcamins | marcelr: responding now. |
| 14:22 | marcelr | so fast :) |
| 14:25 | Joubu | kf, jcamins: I'm not pleased with myself. Unit tests are quite dirty but I didn't find another way to do it... |
| 14:26 | jcamins | Joubu: I will take a look ASAP (probably not until tomorrow), and let you know if I have any other ideas. |
| 14:29 | I don't really see how you could do it any differently. | |
| 14:29 | The important thing is that now if there's a regression, we'll spot it. | |
| 14:32 | kf | jcamins: hm not sure, but friday is a holiday here - might be the same in france? |
| 14:32 | easter | |
| 14:33 | jcamins | Kind of late, isn't it? |
| 14:33 | kf | Joubu: what about easter holidays in france? friday and monday too? |
| 14:33 | jcamins | Since the unit tests are there, I won't revert 5343. |
| 14:34 | kf | jcamins: don't ask me - I don't place the holidays :) |
| 14:37 | Joubu | kf: no, just monday |
| 14:37 | kf | oh |
| 14:39 | jcamins | Well, I wrote a response. |
| 14:39 | marcelr | jcamins: thx, looking |
| 14:40 | jcamins | Ooh, it even sent. |
| 14:40 | I was about to paste it and ask someone else to sent it to the list. | |
| 14:40 | marcelr | someone else? |
| 14:40 | wahanui | someone else is going to have to look at acquisitions |
| 14:41 | jcamins | I don't have a fully-functional internet connection. |
| 14:41 | kf | right wahanui, excellent idea .) |
| 14:41 | it arrived jcamins | |
| 14:41 | all good | |
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| 14:41 | marcelr | jcamins: remains that some authors could mark it as enh, and then it could be ignored by qa |
| 14:42 | jcamins | That is true. |
| 14:42 | I'm trying to reclassify bugs as they're reported... when I notice, anyway. | |
| 14:42 | kf | also some bugs end as enh |
| 14:42 | because it's the default | |
| 14:43 | I have hope that we will go under 100 in the qa week over easter | |
| 14:43 | marcelr | i would have marked my example as enh :) |
| 14:43 | kf | (until next week) |
| 14:43 | jcamins | Yeah, but there's really nothing we can do about that. |
| 14:43 | kf | shoter list - better overview, I hope |
| 14:43 | jcamins | marcelr: it's a bug fix because your new feature that is already in Koha is advertised as making all the fields show up. |
| 14:44 | marcelr | kf: you should add a filter on signed off |
| 14:44 | jcamins | If one of the fields doesn't show up, librarians are going to think it doesn't exist. |
| 14:44 | marcelr | skipping the enh and features |
| 14:44 | jcamins | At least, that's how I interpreted your scenario. |
| 14:44 | marcelr | yeah, i see; there will always be discussion |
| 14:45 | jcamins | And of course you can always ask about a particular bug report. |
| 14:45 | marcelr | kf: then we are way below 100 |
| 14:45 | jcamins | Ordinarily I'll be at my e-mail more, but yesterday and the day before were the holiday. |
| 14:45 | marcelr | ok |
| 14:46 | i will probably look at some enh in the queue too (for a possible update to bug) | |
| 14:49 | kf | sorry phone! |
| 14:49 | jcamins | How many bugs are currently open in Bugzilla? |
| 14:51 | >2800 | |
| 14:51 | marcelr | wow |
| 14:51 | jcamins | Wait, no. |
| 14:51 | That includes pushed to Master and Pushed to Stable. | |
| 14:52 | marcelr | who will file bug 10000 |
| 14:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10000 was not found. |
| 14:52 | marcelr | not yet |
| 14:52 | jcamins | 2200 |
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| 15:12 | kf | crazy busy today |
| 15:12 | reading back now | |
| 15:12 | marcelr | kf: don't worry |
| 15:12 | nothing important :) | |
| 15:13 | kf | ah |
| 15:13 | yeah I have filters - but I like to see the number on the dashboard go down too :) | |
| 15:14 | btw - did someone notice the blocker I filed this morning? | |
| 15:14 | about not being able to edit issuing rules for specific libraries? | |
| 15:14 | marcelr | what number |
| 15:15 | kf | somewhat close to 10.000? ;) |
| 15:15 | 9933 | |
| 15:15 | marcelr | bug 9933 |
| 15:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9933 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Changing/editing circulation rules for specific library affects all libraries |
| 15:15 | kf | I think it's a missing parameter branch somewhere |
| 15:15 | marcelr | related to the patch on editing rules? |
| 15:17 | kf | hm no I don't think that's the problem actually |
| 15:17 | but it might, or to the new renewal period | |
| 15:17 | or both together causing some weird side effect | |
| 15:17 | I think it's probably easy to fix - just have to find out where the library goes missing | |
| 15:17 | jcamins | I think the renewal period, most likely. |
| 15:18 | Because editing a specific library's rule worked when I tried it. | |
| 15:18 | kf | because the logs are clean - it just always applies your change to all libraries which is branchcode = empty |
| 15:37 | marcelr | bgkriegel++ |
| 15:38 | kf | marcelr: what did he do this time? :) |
| 15:39 | marcelr | he is faster than fast |
| 15:40 | kf | lightning speed? |
| 15:40 | * kf | gets out the cape for bernardo |
| 15:41 | marcelr | :) |
| 15:41 | kf | bug 9902 is also a bad one |
| 15:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9902 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , item subfields not populating in 3.10 |
| 15:42 | kf | serials |
| 15:42 | marcelr | yeah |
| 15:44 | @seen bgkriegel | |
| 15:44 | kf | work never ends... :) |
| 15:44 | huginn | marcelr: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 14 hours, 14 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> :) |
| 15:44 | marcelr | if bgkriegel sees bug 6554, things will get better :) |
| 15:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, dpavlin, Failed QA , Broken encoding in members home/search page |
| 15:45 | kf | marcelr: did you get an answer to your question about reservecontraints? |
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| 15:45 | kf | I just found the mail in my inbox because I wanted to check our installations for it :) |
| 15:45 | marcelr | no, but i should just delete all refs to it |
| 15:45 | there is a report for it\ | |
| 15:45 | kf | it might be worth taking a look at what it was used for |
| 15:46 | marcelr | hard to find? |
| 15:46 | kf | yeah probably |
| 15:46 | asking the elders maybe... rangi | |
| 15:46 | marcelr | i mailed the list |
| 15:46 | kf | yep |
| 15:46 | it's empty in our oldest installation too | |
| 15:47 | marcelr | it is 2.x |
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| 16:06 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:08 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 16:08 | * oleonard | straggles in |
| 16:09 | jcamins | I'm reading an interesting book called Producing Open Source Software : how to run a successful free software project. http://producingoss.com/en/producingoss.html |
| 16:09 | Everyone running for election in the 3.14 release cycle should read it. | |
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| 16:20 | druthb | Hi, oleonard! :) |
| 16:21 | jcamins: Well suggested! I've bookmarked it for later reading! | |
| 16:21 | oleonard | druthb: Have you convinced your employers to start offering Koha support yet? |
| 16:21 | druthb | heh. |
| 16:21 | kf | jcamins: will we refrain from running afterwards? |
| 16:21 | jcamins | kf: hmmm... |
| 16:22 | hard to say. | |
| 16:22 | * druthb | velcroes kf down, so she can't run |
| 16:23 | druthb | oleonard: I *would* like to see it possible to install Koha on a cPanel host environment. It would not be easy. |
| 16:23 | kf | hmpf |
| 16:24 | jcamins | druthb: definitely not, since we don't have working RPMs. |
| 16:24 | Or any RPMs. | |
| 16:26 | druthb | I have some thoughts about how to make it go, jcamins. This would allow a hosting provider to offer a Koha plugin. When a customer of theirs wants to use Koha, then a $KOHA_CONF is set up, and you're running multiple instances off one codebase. Gnarly, maybe, at the moment.. |
| 16:26 | jcamins | druthb: that'd be very cool, but I was talking about getting it installed in the first place being problematic... isn't cPanel RPM-only? |
| 16:27 | druthb | Some plugins are installed from tarball. |
| 16:27 | cPanel *itself* is RPM, and it *prefers* RPM-aware things, but it isn't married to that. | |
| 16:28 | jcamins | Right, but before one can use Koha on an RPM-based distribution, one must install Koha's dependencies. |
| 16:28 | druthb | Right. There's the rub. |
| 16:29 | larryb tried installing Koha on an RHEL system, and eventually had to give up or become a raging maniac. | |
| 16:30 | kf | glad he stopped |
| 16:30 | jcamins | That was my recollection. |
| 16:31 | druthb | *right now* that's the big blocker, as I see it. |
| 16:32 | nengard | druthb is here!! :) |
| 16:33 | druthb | Hi, nengard! :) |
| 16:34 | nengard | how goes it? |
| 16:35 | druthb | awesome sauce! |
| 16:36 | Anyone here planning on being at YAPC::NA in Austin in June? Or YAPC::EU in Kiev in August? I'll be at both... | |
| 16:36 | nengard | anyone looking for easy patches to sign off on? bug 9850 has several - and more on the way :) |
| 16:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9850 critical, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , Koha 3.12 Help Files Update |
| 16:36 | oleonard | Kiev eh druthb? That sounds cool. |
| 16:37 | druthb | yah, I'm looking forward to it. |
| 16:37 | Plus two other conferences for cPanel, plus KohaCon…travelin' fool this year. | |
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| 16:39 | druthb | http://www.yapcna.org/yn2013/talk/4710 |
| 16:40 | I submitted my talk abstract *yesterday*, and the orgs have already approved it. I'm amazed. | |
| 16:40 | kf | cool |
| 16:40 | what*s the title? | |
| 16:43 | bye all :) | |
| 16:43 | druthb | http://www.yapcna.org/yn2013/talk/4710 |
| 16:43 | grr. | |
| 16:43 | kf | hm doesn't work for me |
| 16:43 | druthb | "An Ecological View of an Open-Source Community: Koha" |
| 16:44 | kf | oh sounds interesting |
| 16:44 | now I know why you bookmarked the book :) | |
| 16:44 | druthb | :D |
| 16:44 | jcamins | It's a nice fast read, too. |
| 16:44 | I started it yesterday and I'm 40% of the way through. | |
| 16:45 | kf | but you are quite a fast reader :) |
| 16:45 | andn ow I should leave while there is still a bit of sun out there! | |
| 16:45 | cya later or tomororw! | |
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| 18:43 | jcamins | Hey, I had a thought. |
| 18:44 | nengard: a lot of the help patches are just changing the link from /3.10/ to /3.12/ right? | |
| 18:44 | nengard | most of them are |
| 18:44 | but some I'm updating if the module changed or the manual section changed | |
| 18:44 | So I review each one | |
| 18:44 | and compare it to the manual | |
| 18:45 | jcamins | Right, the review is definitely necessary. |
| 18:45 | But I'm wondering if it wouldn't make sense to have a template variable with the "current" manual URL. | |
| 18:46 | Then anywhere that the manual hasn't changed you don't need to generate a patch at all. | |
| 18:46 | We just update the template variable to .../3.14/ or .../3.16/ or whatever. | |
| 18:47 | bag | that sounds smart to me |
| 18:50 | cait | jcamins: couldn't that be derived from the kohaversion? |
| 18:51 | jcamins | cait: I thought about that, and I'm on the fence. |
| 18:51 | cait | ? |
| 18:51 | what would you do up thereß | |
| 18:51 | ? | |
| 18:51 | :) | |
| 18:52 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 18:52 | The question is, what manual should an odd version point to? | |
| 18:53 | I guess one option would be to set up redirects for development versions. | |
| 18:54 | nengard | jcamins - actually |
| 18:54 | There is a sentence around the link that says learn more about ***** in teh manual | |
| 18:55 | so I could change that and make it more generic and include it | |
| 18:55 | but right now I kind of link the fact that it's diff on each | |
| 18:57 | jcamins | It seems like a lot of unnecessary work for the doc manager. |
| 18:58 | Not to mention the RM, of course. | |
| 18:58 | cait | but the sentence can be different |
| 18:58 | only the link would be generated | |
| 19:00 | nengard | okay |
| 19:00 | cait | brb |
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| 19:02 | jcamins | I think this connection cuts out on the hour every hour. |
| 19:05 | nengard | I have an include ready to go |
| 19:05 | I'm going to use it going forward and once we get the ones I did pushed I'll submit an update for all of those | |
| 19:05 | cause I'm on a roll | |
| 19:07 | jcamins | Sounds good. |
| 19:07 | cait | is the include within an html tag with the vresion` |
| 19:07 | ? | |
| 19:13 | nengard: hm, seeing your patch in my inbox - it looks like you hardcoded the include to searching? | |
| 19:13 | +<a href="http://manual.koha-community.o[…]en/searching.html">manual</a> (online).</strong></p> | |
| 19:13 | nengard | that was before I created the include |
| 19:14 | cait | hm so there isanother patch? |
| 19:14 | nengard | hang on |
| 19:14 | my head is in 100 places at once | |
| 19:14 | i might have messed up | |
| 19:15 | cait, yes I did the searching stuff before the include - there is another patch that I see that has just the ending of that line | |
| 19:15 | in it's own file | |
| 19:15 | I will then put that include in all the help files I create from here on out | |
| 19:15 | cait | i am only seeing your patch on the list :) |
| 19:15 | and that has this link | |
| 19:16 | nengard | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=16950 |
| 19:16 | it adds a new file with that link | |
| 19:16 | cait | yes |
| 19:16 | nengard | i'll update that with each release instead of every help file |
| 19:16 | cait | but you win nothing with a hardcoded link to searching I think? |
| 19:17 | nengard | OH!!! |
| 19:17 | I see what the problem is | |
| 19:17 | okay we can't do it as an include | |
| 19:17 | each link goes to the correct section of the manual | |
| 19:17 | based on the help file | |
| 19:17 | so that people don't have to search the manual to find what they want more info on | |
| 19:17 | cait | I think the suggestion was to do something like that |
| 19:17 | +<a href="http://manual.koha-community.org/[% koha version %]/en/searching.html">manual</a> (online).</strong></p> | |
| 19:17 | nengard | oh! |
| 19:18 | GOt it | |
| 19:25 | there | |
| 19:25 | much better that way | |
| 19:25 | then it can be edited for version and language and if we ever move the manual | |
| 19:27 | cait | language is a good idea |
| 19:28 | nengard: I think ideally we would use variables - language is maybe already there | |
| 19:28 | instead of an include | |
| 19:28 | nengard | I don't know what you mean by variables |
| 19:28 | cait | the include could confuse the translation script I think |
| 19:28 | nengard | the version is 3.10.3 or 3.09.100 |
| 19:28 | and I need 3.10 or 3.12 in the URL | |
| 19:29 | this way it's one file to edit | |
| 19:29 | how is it diff from the current help files | |
| 19:29 | cait | I think if you added a new variable to .... what's it called... that would probably work |
| 19:29 | jcamins: help? | |
| 19:29 | wahanui | i heard help was at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help. |
| 19:29 | cait | no... not that help wahanui :) |
| 19:29 | nengard | I kind of feel like decisions to change things should have been made before now - now I need to rush to get these things done |
| 19:30 | jcamins | nengard: you don't have to change it. |
| 19:30 | nengard | and can't keep going back and forth |
| 19:30 | Well I don't kmind | |
| 19:30 | jcamins | I was suggesting it because there are a gazillion files still to update. |
| 19:30 | nengard | don't mind |
| 19:30 | the include would do what you're suggesting - wouldn't it | |
| 19:30 | make it so that in the future I don't have to update all the files | |
| 19:30 | just the include and the help files that have changed? | |
| 19:31 | cait | nengard: I am worreid abou tit getting picked up by the translation scripts |
| 19:31 | nengard | Is it picked up now? |
| 19:31 | cait | of course |
| 19:31 | I have translated a gazillion little bit different sentences | |
| 19:31 | with links to the manual | |
| 19:32 | so if we get that figured out | |
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| 19:32 | cait | you would help translators as well :) |
| 19:33 | nengard | so - here's why i'm confused - if it's picked up now - then why won't it be picked up with the include? |
| 19:33 | jcamins | nengard: the problem is the text of the include getting picked up, and translated into gibberish. |
| 19:33 | nengard | hmmm |
| 19:34 | cait | or not picked up... which might not be a bad thing |
| 19:34 | nengard | This week I need to get these help files done - so if we have a solution that's going to work that I'm missing let me know ... otherwise I'll do it the way I always have for this release and for the next one we come up with a plan that works for everyone - or we use the include (but I don't want it to break things with translation so I don't need to use it if that's the case) |
| 19:35 | cait | actually, maybe just leaving it makes no difference.... you can't change the link to point to a translated manual now and you would not be able to do it then I think... but if we make it a variable, then it would need to be a pref maybe |
| 19:35 | so if you have a translated manual, you can point to it or leave it on en | |
| 19:35 | nengard | right |
| 19:35 | cait | i am confusing myself now |
| 19:35 | nengard | hehe |
| 19:35 | * jcamins | doesn't have a strong feeling. |
| 19:36 | cait | heh |
| 19:36 | maybe nengard is right - leave it as it is, figure out a smarter way later | |
| 19:36 | nengard | I'm so worn out - I've been taking care of mom as she recovers from surgery at my house - so if I'm being confusing too that's why |
| 19:36 | so - no includes | |
| 19:36 | ? | |
| 19:36 | cait | oh, hope she recovers well |
| 19:37 | nengard | she's doing great, it's just tiring for me to do a full time job and take care of her :) so my brain isn't working 100% |
| 19:38 | cait | neither is mine |
| 19:38 | nengard | so cait - i just want to be sure I understand what we want ... yes to an include (as it is now) or no to an include (just update each file for now) |
| 19:38 | cait | still fighting with that cold |
| 19:38 | nengard | :( |
| 19:38 | cait | I think leave it as it was |
| 19:38 | would be safest | |
| 19:38 | nengard | okey dokey |
| 19:38 | works for me | |
| 19:42 | patches are all marked un-obsolete :) | |
| 19:42 | now on to the next one | |
| 19:47 | wizzyrea | cait - on 9922 do a bib level |
| 19:48 | hold | |
| 19:48 | cait | hm |
| 19:48 | wizzyrea | item level holds were never the problem. |
| 19:48 | cait | but it seemed wrong for item level too |
| 19:48 | but I will try | |
| 19:49 | wizzyrea | the behaviour you saw was the right behaviour |
| 19:49 | cait | ok |
| 19:49 | wizzyrea | kyle forgot an "apply the patch" in there |
| 19:49 | cait | I will trust the expert |
| 19:49 | oh there is one | |
| 19:49 | wizzyrea | you always want the hold queue to select from holding branch, never home branch |
| 19:49 | cait | but I did an item level - because i wanted it to pick the one with the dfferent home and holding branch |
| 19:49 | and i had several items on the record | |
| 19:49 | wizzyrea | yea, that's fine |
| 19:50 | it was picking the holding branch, right>? | |
| 19:50 | cait | wizzyrea: I thought it was doing home branch |
| 19:50 | wizzyrea | no |
| 19:50 | cait | that's why I thought it was wrong |
| 19:50 | wizzyrea | you say holding branch fairfield |
| 19:50 | cait | I will check it agian a bit later or in the morning |
| 19:50 | wizzyrea | yea, it should always pick from holding branch, never ever from homebranch |
| 19:50 | that's the behaviour you are looking for :) | |
| 19:51 | cait | yep |
| 19:51 | at least I had the right thought then :) | |
| 19:51 | now have to check if I confused my branches | |
| 19:51 | wizzyrea | and AIR doesn't factor into it at all - the plan is, really, toggle AIR and nothing should change. |
| 19:51 | cait | got it |
| 19:51 | wizzyrea | and the item should come from holdingbranch, always |
| 19:51 | (that's the old behaviour) | |
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| 20:14 | cait | k |
| 20:14 | btw - no rangi today? | |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | not yet - soon |
| 20:15 | kid duty :) | |
| 20:15 | cait | aah |
| 20:15 | was wondering if yo uhad more holidays :) | |
| 20:20 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 20:20 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #160: "oleonard: All of humanity's evolution and technological achievement have led to this day, when someone could say simply, 1s, vid and make it so." (added by wizzyrea at 04:23 PM, September 28, 2011) |
| 20:21 | wizzyrea | it's so true. |
| 20:21 | @quote random | |
| 20:21 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #21: "<owen> I think we need more quotes!" (added by jdavidb at 04:18 PM, August 06, 2009) |
| 20:21 | wizzyrea | huginn is feeling philosophical today |
| 20:21 | huginn | wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 20:21 | druthb | @quote random |
| 20:21 | huginn | druthb: Quote #202: "<wizzyrea> well and before that I used the garden of razorblades that is OpenBSD." (added by slef at 02:34 PM, April 27, 2012) |
| 20:22 | oleonard | Who's that "owen" guy huginn is talking about? |
| 20:22 | Haven't heard from him in a while | |
| 20:22 | druthb | Srsly. Or jdavidb. |
| 20:22 | :P | |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 20:23 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #198: "<gmcharlt> hobgoblins are stealing our eyes!" (added by slef at 05:49 PM, April 06, 2012) |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 20:23 | oleonard | gmcharlt was seriously tripping that day |
| 20:23 | cait | @quote random |
| 20:23 | huginn | cait: Quote #149: "mtj: DEVELOPERS!!! DEVELOPERS!!! DEVELOPERS!!!" (added by druthb at 01:15 AM, August 26, 2011) |
| 20:23 | gmcharlt | I have no memory of that |
| 20:23 | druthb | @quote random |
| 20:23 | huginn | druthb: Quote #155: "libsysguy: I always hate touching somebody else's code that they are currently working on...its like asking someone if you can hold their kid" (added by kf at 01:35 PM, September 15, 2011) |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | also, you cannot log into a koha using username "lolol" |
| 20:24 | unless that user exists. | |
| 20:24 | oleonard | Oh, but did you know you can set one user's username to another user's card number? |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | not surprising |
| 20:24 | cait | and that's evil |
| 20:24 | druthb | @most increased |
| 20:24 | huginn | druthb: "rangi": 765, "oleonard": 663, "jcamins": 526, "wizzyrea": 391, "cait": 373, "gmcharlt": 370, "chris_n": 313, "paul_p": 278, "kf": 261, "sekjal": 245, "nengard": 238, "magnuse": 217, "druthb": 180, "slef": 176, "eythian": 159, "fredericd": 96, "marcelr": 82, "drojf": 80, "tcohen": 75, "biblibre": 70, "hdl": 69, "mveron": 66, "mtj": 61, "hdl_laptop": 60, and "jwagner": 54 |
| 20:24 | cait | there is a bug around there |
| 20:25 | I ended up in the wrong patron account once :( | |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea | yea, that completely should not work |
| 20:25 | cait | i think it's even worse |
| 20:25 | have you ever tried setting dupliate userids using the patron import? | |
| 20:25 | druthb | @karma druthb |
| 20:25 | huginn | druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 180 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 179. |
| 20:26 | oleonard | My staff really likes to put random spaces in people's email addresses during patron entry. |
| 20:26 | jcamins | @karma jcamins |
| 20:26 | huginn | jcamins: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 526 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 524. |
| 20:26 | druthb | I'm gonna try to break into the 200s this year. Need me a bucket full of awesome. |
| 20:26 | jcamins | Wow. 524! |
| 20:27 | rangi | karma for jcamins |
| 20:27 | wahanui | jcamins has karma of 492 |
| 20:27 | rangi | karma for kf |
| 20:27 | wahanui | kf has karma of 231 |
| 20:27 | rangi | wahanui has his own tracker |
| 20:27 | wahanui | rangi: what? |
| 20:27 | gmcharlt | druthb++ # we know you're awesome! |
| 20:27 | druthb | puh |
| 20:27 | oleonard | karma for kittens |
| 20:27 | wahanui | kittens has neutral karma |
| 20:27 | oleonard | kittens++ |
| 20:27 | druthb | karma for oleonard |
| 20:27 | wahanui | oleonard has karma of 432 |
| 20:27 | ibeardslee | that can't be right |
| 20:28 | gmcharlt | *boggles* |
| 20:28 | rangi | and yes we definitely should stop duplicate userid and check for cardnumber |
| 20:28 | gmcharlt | kittens++ |
| 20:28 | oleonard | @karma kittens |
| 20:28 | huginn | oleonard: Karma for "kittens" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. |
| 20:31 | druthb | kittens++ |
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| 20:32 | druthb | cait++ |
| 20:32 | cait | druthb: again??? |
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| 20:34 | wizzyrea | yea, that's dirty and requires fixing |
| 20:36 | phew, I have a ways to go to catch up :) | |
| 20:36 | but really I think jcamins probably deserves to be ahead ^.^ | |
| 20:36 | druthb | yes, cait. Always. |
| 20:36 | rangi | @karma |
| 20:36 | huginn | rangi: Highest karma: "rangi" (759), "oleonard" (658), and "jcamins" (524). Lowest karma: "<!" (-114), "failed" (-101), and "-" (-73). You (rangi) are ranked 1 out of 2436. |
| 20:36 | cait | @karma cait |
| 20:36 | huginn | cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 374 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 373. |
| 20:36 | cait | @karma kf |
| 20:36 | huginn | cait: Karma for "kf" has been increased 261 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 261. |
| 20:36 | rangi | @most decreased |
| 20:36 | cait | hm. |
| 20:36 | huginn | rangi: "<!": 125, "failed": 101, "-": 76, "ie": 67, "<-": 51, "C4::Search": 32, "windows": 27, "[": 22, "ptfs": 17, "--><!": 14, "liblime": 13, "src="<!": 11, "monday": 10, "it": 10, "^": 10, "-rw-r--r": 10, "marc": 10, "--": 9, "zebra": 9, "me": 8, "windchill": 8, "ms_access": 7, "ms_word": 7, "word": 7, and "oracle": 7 |
| 20:37 | rangi | heh |
| 20:37 | * druthb | snickers. |
| 20:37 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 20:37 | I'm responsible for a lot of those. | |
| 20:38 | ms_access, windows, C4::Search, and ie have gotten a lot of negative karma from me. | |
| 20:38 | druthb | -++ |
| 20:38 | +-- | |
| 20:38 | * druthb | lulz |
| 20:38 | druthb | @karma - |
| 20:39 | huginn | druthb: Karma for "-" has been increased 4 times and decreased 76 times for a total karma of -72. |
| 20:39 | druthb | @karma + |
| 20:39 | huginn | druthb: Karma for "+" has been increased 9 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 8. |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | someone typed +++ a lot |
| 20:39 | gmcharlt | -++ |
| 20:39 | -++ | |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | @karma + |
| 20:39 | huginn | wizzyrea: Karma for "+" has been increased 10 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 9. |
| 20:39 | gmcharlt | -++ |
| 20:39 | ;) | |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | hehehehehe |
| 20:39 | JOKES FOR NERDS, JOKES FOR NERDS | |
| 20:40 | druthb | @wunder 77063 |
| 20:40 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 22.6°C (3:39 PM CDT on March 27, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:40 | druthb | @wunder 66046 |
| 20:40 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 9.8°C (3:39 PM CDT on March 27, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:40 | druthb | @wunder 20852 |
| 20:40 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Twinbrook, Rockville, Maryland is 9.5°C (4:40 PM EDT on March 27, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:40 | gmcharlt | @quote add <wizzyrea> JOKES FOR NERDS, JOKES FOR NERDS |
| 20:40 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #238 added. |
| 20:41 | druthb | imma liking the 22.6 a lot more than the 9.8. |
| 20:44 | * druthb | heads off to go work out, then home. |
| 20:44 | oleonard | Later #koha |
| 20:52 | * jcamins | gloomily contemplates the piles of books on the floor and the empty shelves on the wall. |
| 20:52 | jcamins | I hate it the way bookshelves are never _quite_ the right height. |
| 20:52 | cait | jcamins: so you created a mess at your client's? |
| 20:52 | jcamins | cait: yep. Emptied out three shelves onto the floor. |
| 20:52 | cait | tsk |
| 20:57 | gmcharlt | jcamins: quick, blame the cat! |
| 20:58 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 20:58 | cait | hehe |
| 20:58 | or the dog | |
| 20:58 | even better | |
| 20:58 | wahanui | hmmm... even better is what oleonard said just after that |
| 21:09 | bag | thanks cait |
| 21:10 | and HI! | |
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| 21:10 | cait | hi :) |
| 21:10 | not my intent to be difficult on this one - but I still think it needs to be pointed out | |
| 21:10 | rangi | wow |
| 21:10 | cait | i mean documented :) then it should be alright |
| 21:10 | rangi: hm? | |
| 21:11 | rangi | failing a first time developers patch |
| 21:11 | jcamins | :( |
| 21:11 | Did I do that? | |
| 21:11 | cait | I thik he was not aware of that |
| 21:11 | rangi | for the fact it doesnt address an issue totally not to do with the bug |
| 21:11 | cait | I will go an fix it |
| 21:11 | rangi | either way |
| 21:11 | wahanui | well, either way is workable though imho |
| 21:11 | cait | do you have the bug number? |
| 21:11 | I deleted it accidentally earlier and got distracted | |
| 21:11 | jcamins | I don't recall doing that. |
| 21:11 | cait | was not you |
| 21:11 | frederic | |
| 21:11 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 21:11 | cait | rangi: bug? |
| 21:11 | wahanui | i think bug is it stores biblionumber not itemnumber |
| 21:11 | rangi | bug 5658 |
| 21:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5658 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, fridolyn.somers, CLOSED FIXED, can't delete subfields in frameworks |
| 21:12 | jcamins | I don't recall that patch at all. |
| 21:12 | rangi | hmm no |
| 21:12 | bug 5648 | |
| 21:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5648 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , icons clumping together |
| 21:12 | jcamins | Still don't. |
| 21:12 | * jcamins | reads |
| 21:13 | rangi | updated |
| 21:13 | jcamins | That sounds like a bug. |
| 21:14 | rangi | its a different federic, not frederic demian |
| 21:14 | just fyi | |
| 21:14 | cait | oh that's right |
| 21:14 | wahanui | no it's not. |
| 21:14 | jcamins | Huh. I don't know who that is. |
| 21:14 | cait | misread |
| 21:17 | rangi | hehe we keep making jared have to switch it to bug |
| 21:19 | jcamins | Just so long as you don't do it again. :P |
| 21:20 | rangi | hehe |
| 21:20 | i'd like to have jen stick around koha | |
| 21:20 | http://www.littlegreenpixel.com/ | |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | yea, she's good people |
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| 21:21 | cait | I think browser problem |
| 21:21 | i have that sometimes happening with bug status too | |
| 21:22 | the pull down is still signed off although bug says passed qa above - didn't toch the bug setting :( | |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | maybe has to do with bz? |
| 21:22 | i've noticed that happening too but I didn't pay that much attention | |
| 21:22 | i thought it was just me | |
| 21:22 | git bz I mean | |
| 21:23 | cait | nope not you - have been falling into that trap lots lately |
| 21:27 | * jcamins | leaves for a lecture. |
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| 22:12 | eythian | hi |
| 22:13 | rambutan | hey |
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| 22:17 | cait | hey eythian - bye all |
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| 22:31 | bag | dumb quesiton - can you z3950 into koha for the item information? |
| 22:32 | I'm drawing a blank | |
| 22:34 | nevermind :) | |
| 23:02 | gmcharlt | bag: yes # but you probably know that already now ;) |
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