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| 00:04 | rangi | !jenkins build koha_master now |
| 00:04 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now |
| 00:05 | Starting build #1073 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1066 9 days 5 hr ago) | |
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| 01:12 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 01:12 | Project Koha_master build #1073: FIXED in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1073/ | |
| 01:13 | rangi | sweet |
| 01:14 | wizzyrea | yiippee! |
| 01:20 | eythian | wahanui: the internet is http://youtu.be/iDbyYGrswtg |
| 01:20 | wahanui | ...but internet is not working here properly... I may disappear... |
| 01:20 | eythian | wahanui: the internet is also http://youtu.be/iDbyYGrswtg |
| 01:20 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 01:20 | wizzyrea | eythian: had you not seen that? |
| 01:21 | eythian | I had, when I watched the show, but that was ages ago |
| 01:21 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 01:21 | i laugh every time. | |
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| 03:25 | * wajasu | just setup koha dev in EPIC eclipse. now i can run the site out of the iDE. |
| 03:26 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 03:26 | * wajasu | with egit in the ide, |
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| 04:07 | bag | oh I haven't heard of the it crowd before |
| 04:07 | hmm I will have to watch that | |
| 04:07 | cjh | bag: :o |
| 04:07 | dcook | :o |
| 04:07 | bag | tomorrow tomorrow |
| 04:07 | dcook | To be honest, I hadn't heard of it before I moved to Sydney last year either.. |
| 04:07 | cjh | bag: watch it, hurry! |
| 04:07 | bag | oh I will |
| 04:08 | looks great | |
| 04:08 | I'm watching baby TV - my daughter is asleep and that's the most TV I watch… ( a little monitor from another room :) ) | |
| 04:09 | dcook | hehe |
| 04:09 | cjh | bag: naaaww |
| 04:11 | bag | ok Sonja and I are going to watch the first episode right now :P |
| 04:12 | cjh | \o/ |
| 04:13 | less than 2 days to find an RM :o | |
| 04:13 | bag | two months until release of 3.12 though |
| 04:13 | so I guess we still have two months | |
| 04:14 | cjh | true :) |
| 04:14 | bag | finger to nose - not it :P |
| 04:14 | or wait tag you are it | |
| 04:14 | cjh | heh |
| 04:14 | dcook | I was wondering if a ByWater person might take it on :p |
| 04:15 | bag | khall has been thinking about it |
| 04:15 | cjh | a 3 headed bywater person? |
| 04:15 | bag | one of the heads is gone now - so no more 3 header |
| 04:15 | dcook | Plus I don't think the chimera was too well received |
| 04:16 | bag | :P |
| 04:16 | dcook | :p |
| 04:16 | Are you doing the 3.8 maintaining, cjh? | |
| 04:16 | cjh | possibly |
| 04:16 | dcook | How many releases back do we usually maintain? |
| 04:17 | cjh | about as far as 3.8 :) |
| 04:19 | * dcook | keeps wondering who will step up for 3.14 RM |
| 04:19 | dcook | I suppose the paranoid part of my brain wonders sometimes about the future. |
| 04:19 | Mind you, I've only been working on Koha for 1 year and it's heaps older than that, so... | |
| 04:19 | bag | we've still got time |
| 04:20 | I think gmcharlt was also thinking about doing it again | |
| 04:20 | gmcharlt | indeed |
| 04:20 | bag | there he is :) |
| 04:20 | hiya gmcharlt | |
| 04:20 | gmcharlt | dcook: don't worry, an RM will appear ;) |
| 04:20 | hi bag | |
| 04:21 | dcook | hehe |
| 04:21 | cjh | gmcharlt: soooooo, that RM position, eh? |
| 04:21 | bag | like magic they appear :) |
| 04:21 | * dcook | has an image of an RM with a long white beard and a white staff |
| 04:21 | dcook | Anyone good with photoshop? |
| 04:21 | cjh | RM = release mage |
| 04:21 | dcook | Perhaps we could rig up an image of gmcharlt taking on a balrog |
| 04:23 | bag | it's more like herding kittens than battling balrogs |
| 04:23 | dcook | mew? |
| 04:24 | gmcharlt | we'll have to arrange for a big bunch of QA Numenoreans to stand between the RM and the balrog ;) |
| 04:26 | dcook | Cannon fodder? :p |
| 04:27 | eythian | http://www.sourcemage.org/ <-- distro is related |
| 04:36 | bag | it's not even tuesday yet |
| 04:36 | dcook | Hmm, perhaps living in the future does have perks...:) |
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| 04:51 | dcook | Hmm get_report_social_data starts with #!/bin/perl rather than #!/usr/bin/perl |
| 04:51 | Typo? | |
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| 06:12 | dcook | night #koha |
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| 07:41 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:41 | wahanui | hola, reiveune |
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| 08:02 | asaurat | hi |
| 08:02 | wahanui | what's up, asaurat |
| 08:06 | * magnuse | waves |
| 08:08 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 08:08 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (9:00 AM CET on March 12, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:08 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:09 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0°C (8:50 AM CET on March 12, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:09 | * magnuse | starts packing :-) |
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| 08:20 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:20 | wahanui | hello, gaetan_B |
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| 09:14 | magnuse | rangi++ |
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| 09:44 | miel | euhm hi |
| 09:46 | is there anybody here who wants to answer a couple of general questions? | |
| 09:48 | rangi | easiest way to find out is to ask them |
| 09:48 | ask? | |
| 09:48 | wahanui | Don't ask to ask, just ask. |
| 09:49 | rangi | (as the bot says) |
| 09:49 | miel | ah, well it's been 10 years since ive been on irc it feels weird :-) |
| 09:50 | i am looking for a solution for a comic book library | |
| 09:50 | rangi | do you circulate? |
| 09:51 | miel | we have about 15000 comic books and are open twice a week |
| 09:51 | rangi | right |
| 09:51 | miel | koha looks very interesting and ive setup a testserver and are sinve one hour testing |
| 09:52 | i will have many questions over the next months and wanted to know how easy it is to get help if i need it | |
| 09:52 | rangi | you installed with the .deb packages eh? |
| 09:52 | miel | yes |
| 09:52 | rangi | manual? |
| 09:52 | wahanui | manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 09:52 | miel | worked out quite well |
| 09:52 | rangi | thats the best place to go for help |
| 09:52 | miel | printing it right now |
| 09:53 | but if i get stuck this would be my next stop? | |
| 09:53 | rangi | probably the mailing list |
| 09:53 | if it's to do with using koha | |
| 09:54 | miel | it should be |
| 09:54 | rangi | and understanding of course that any support someone will be giving up their own time to provide :-) |
| 09:55 | here is a good place for asking about development | |
| 09:55 | miel | i understand and am grateful |
| 09:55 | rangi | the main list is better for usage stuff |
| 09:55 | miel | ah wel sorry for spamming then |
| 09:55 | rangi | (i only mention that because we sadly get quite a few 'demanding' answers type questions) |
| 09:55 | nope thats fine | |
| 09:55 | its just most of us on here are devs | |
| 09:56 | the mailing list has a lot more librarians | |
| 09:56 | who know using the software better | |
| 09:56 | you can certainly ask here, but you will probably get a better answer on the mailing list is all | |
| 09:56 | course if you hit a bug, or want to make a patch etc, then here is the best bet | |
| 09:57 | miel | ok i guess most of my questions will be directed there (unless i get in to real trouble) |
| 09:57 | I thank you for your time | |
| 09:58 | rangi | no problem |
| 09:58 | feel free to add yourself to the wiki if you like | |
| 09:59 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]a_Users_Worldwide | |
| 10:00 | miel | i might do that thanks again for pointing me in the right direction |
| 10:00 | rangi | (have you found the local covers feature yet? you might like to take photos of covers and attach them to the records) |
| 10:00 | unless amazon or google have the covers anyway, covers make catalogue searches so much nicer :) | |
| 10:01 | miel | i have hardly found anything yet this is really all reconnaissance for now, |
| 10:01 | rangi | cool |
| 10:01 | miel | really scared of having to scan 15000 books |
| 10:02 | rangi | if they have an issn or isbn then you should be able to get covers from google or amazon |
| 10:02 | or openlibrary | |
| 10:02 | wahanui | rumour has it openlibrary is cool |
| 10:03 | miel | but i will have to look at all the possibilities but i guess getting to know marc, importing the database and getting the isbn thingy linked is a good start :-) |
| 10:03 | ill have a look at that too | |
| 10:03 | rangi | yep |
| 10:03 | miel | have i mentioned they are all dutch :-P |
| 10:04 | rangi | hmm probably you will have to take photos .. hire a student :-) |
| 10:04 | did you know the rijkmuseum run koha? | |
| 10:04 | hmm rijksmuseum even | |
| 10:05 | miel | well if anyone in our group still needs convincing i might mention that one :-) |
| 10:05 | rangi | :) |
| 10:05 | miel | our budget btw is also zero |
| 10:05 | rangi | Marcel from there is one of the Koha QA team |
| 10:06 | and eythian speaks a little dutch | |
| 10:07 | miel | great getting more info then i hoped for |
| 10:07 | * rangi | has to go to sleep now, its 11pm here in nz |
| 10:09 | miel | ok and thank you |
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| 10:23 | magnuse | rangi++ for being helpful |
| 10:23 | rangi: if you ever get a spare moment, bug 9256 could do with a look now ;-) | |
| 10:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 |
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| 11:32 | BobB | @wunder Sydney NSW |
| 11:34 | @wunder Sydney, NSW, Australia | |
| 11:34 | huginn | BobB: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 11:34 | BobB | hmm, I know where it is :) |
| 11:35 | @wunder Sydney New South Wales | |
| 11:35 | huginn | BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (10:00 PM EST on March 12, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:35 | BobB | ...at 10.30 at night. Ugghhhh! |
| 11:48 | magnuse | too hot? |
| 11:48 | @wunder boo | |
| 11:48 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -6.0°C (12:20 PM CET on March 12, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:49 | magnuse | BobB: we could do the average? :-) |
| 11:52 | BobB | average ++ |
| 12:09 | magnuse | yay |
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| 12:17 | tcohen | morning #koha |
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| 12:18 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:34 | magnuse | hiya tcohen and oleonard |
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| 12:46 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 12:58 | oleonard | We don't have a way to link to a "view" of an individual fund, but does it make sense to link individual funds to a list of all funds for that budget? http://www.screencast.com/t/GocFflZEi |
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| 13:02 | edveal | morning |
| 13:03 | oleonard | Hi edveal |
| 13:03 | edveal | Hi oleonard |
| 13:09 | magnuse | oleonard: sounds like something cait would have an opinion on :-) |
| 13:09 | oleonard | I know, and here we are without cait... |
| 13:09 | magnuse | sigh... |
| 13:09 | oleonard | We need to expand our pool of people who care about acquisitions ;) |
| 13:10 | magnuse | sounds like a good idea :-) |
| 13:10 | * magnuse | does not volunteer yet |
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| 13:32 | oleonard | Anyone who develops an opinion on linking to funds can test my alternate patch to Bug 9744 |
| 13:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9744 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, Needs Signoff , Add a column Fund name on the home page of acquisitions |
| 13:43 | oleonard | jcamins around? |
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| 13:51 | maximep | good morning #koha |
| 13:51 | tcohen | hi maximep |
| 13:52 | maximep | oleonard++ for bug 9744 |
| 13:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9744 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, Needs Signoff , Add a column Fund name on the home page of acquisitions |
| 13:53 | oleonard | Thanks maximep I hoped you wouldn't mind |
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| 13:55 | maximep | why would I mind a better patch =) |
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| 14:04 | drojf | i think i'm confused. when i install recent (or master) packages, it is DOM by default, not GRS-1, right? |
| 14:06 | tcohen | right drojf |
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| 14:18 | jcamins | oleonard: yep. |
| 14:18 | How many times do I have to tell people not to send messages directly to me? | |
| 14:18 | gmcharlt | jcamins: that never ends |
| 14:19 | form letters on cheap bond paper ;) | |
| 14:20 | oleonard | Hi jcamins, I could use your help getting un-confused. I may have been wrong to ask you to revert Bug 9446. I did so because Bug 9647 says "pushed" but now I think it hasn't. |
| 14:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9446 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Use DataTables on Z39.50 servers administration page |
| 14:20 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9647 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on Z39.50 servers administration page with Bootstrap | |
| 14:20 | oleonard | I've been wrong before though. |
| 14:23 | jcamins | Hmmm. |
| 14:23 | Didn't I revert 9647 because it broke the datatables? | |
| 14:24 | oleonard | Did you? Then I'm creating messes all over the place :( |
| 14:25 | jcamins | Let me see. |
| 14:25 | No, I never pushed it. | |
| 14:25 | * drojf | likes the idea of not being the only confused person around |
| 14:25 | jcamins | I don't even see any evidence that I tried to push it. |
| 14:26 | Hmmm... | |
| 14:26 | Possibly I wrote the message on the wrong bug? | |
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| 14:33 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 14:33 | So... I can revert the revert, and switch that back to passed QA. | |
| 14:38 | drojf | how would i switch from DOM to GRS? i thought to do that to test bug 9256, but i fail to see how to do it |
| 14:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 |
| 14:39 | jcamins | drojf: just reverse the changes you made to switch to DOM. |
| 14:39 | drojf | its a fresh installation, i did not do anything |
| 14:39 | jcamins | In that case just choose GRS-1 instead of DOM. |
| 14:40 | If you're trying to install from packages, the packages don't support DOM yet. | |
| 14:40 | drojf | choose where? |
| 14:40 | AH! | |
| 14:40 | now i am even more confused, but then there is nothing to test :) | |
| 14:41 | or, there is | |
| 14:41 | i could switch to dom then and test ^^ | |
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| 14:41 | drojf | is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_to_dom_indexing still valid? |
| 14:42 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 14:42 | drojf | ok i'll try that. thanks |
| 14:45 | maximep | anyone knows why you can't place a hold on more than 1 item fo a biblio ? Is it a missing feature or is there a good reason ? |
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| 14:46 | jcamins | maximep: missing feature. |
| 14:47 | maximep | ok thanks |
| 14:47 | oleonard | maximep: It was by design, but based on the not-always-correct assumption that items are all the same (rather than, for instance, volumes) |
| 14:48 | maximep | oh, I think it's covered by bug 7710 |
| 14:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7710 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , multiple holds per title |
| 14:49 | magnuse | drojf: as far as i know, the packages use grs1 for bibs and dom for authorities |
| 14:50 | drojf | omg. i think my head is going to implode |
| 14:51 | magnuse | hehe¨ |
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| 14:51 | magnuse | blame it on the zebra... |
| 14:52 | drojf | "After the line <!-- <maximumrecordsize>2000000</maximumrecordsize> -->" |
| 14:52 | that line does not exist anymore. so much for "still valid" :P | |
| 14:53 | jcamins | drojf: oh well. |
| 14:54 | I'm kind of surprised none of the people following the instructions recently mentioned that the instructions referred to lines that didn't exist. | |
| 14:56 | tcohen | we don't have people qa'ing the wiki |
| 14:57 | jcamins | tcohen: no, but one generally expects to hear about instructions not working when they fail to work so spectacularly. |
| 14:57 | drojf | jcamins: they also did not mention that a file name was wrong and there was another error that i already fixed before i started ;) |
| 14:58 | tcohen | right, that's just evidence those instructions are not being used |
| 14:58 | drojf | on the other hand, i have used that at least once and don't remember any problems |
| 14:58 | magnuse | tcohen: the clue to how the packages do indexing lies in the file debian/templates/koha-conf-site.xml.in |
| 14:59 | tcohen | I know magnuse! |
| 15:00 | magnuse | hm, i think i meant that for drojf... |
| 15:00 | tcohen | :-P |
| 15:00 | * magnuse | shuts up now :-) |
| 15:01 | tcohen | magnuse np! |
| 15:02 | magnuse: question about that file, does __ZEBRA_SRU_BIBLIOS_PORT__ mean that we cannot set a SRU server for each instance? | |
| 15:02 | (using packages?) | |
| 15:02 | jcamins | tcohen: yes. |
| 15:02 | tcohen | ouch |
| 15:02 | magnuse | hope not! |
| 15:02 | jcamins | Well, you coud by manually editing the file to use different ports. |
| 15:02 | magnuse | but couldn't we have different ports for different instances? |
| 15:03 | tcohen | once the instance is created |
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| 15:03 | jcamins | Right. Using koha-sites.conf you'd end up with the Zebras duking it out for control over the port. |
| 15:03 | tcohen | yes magnuse, we should have a switch for setting that on instance creation |
| 15:03 | magnuse | see also bug 9749 |
| 15:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9749 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Placeholders in koha-conf.xml generated by the Debian packages |
| 15:04 | magnuse | tcohen: yup! |
| 15:04 | * jcamins | thinks it would be a good idea to set up one Zebra with multiple databases. |
| 15:05 | magnuse | yeah, that setting would not be a good candidate for koha-sites.conf, but just for a command line option to koha-create |
| 15:05 | jcamins: that would be cool! | |
| 15:05 | (i think) | |
| 15:13 | celery1 | does zebra typically produce increasing verbosity. i.e., will -vvv produce more info generally w/ zebra than just -v ? |
| 15:14 | rambutan | how did I get to be celery? |
| 15:14 | oleonard | Crazy night last night rambutan? |
| 15:15 | rambutan | well, I'm using thunderbird chat now vs xchat, and some of the minor details pinch me occasionallly |
| 15:16 | jcamins | Yes, -v -v -v provides debug information whereas -v does not. |
| 15:18 | rambutan | well, it should be simply a matter of increasing verbosity. I just didn't know if zebra actually, typically, produced additional worthwhile info |
| 15:18 | jcamins | -v -v does nothing, as I recall. |
| 15:19 | (or is equivalent to -v, anyway) | |
| 15:34 | drojf | zebraidx(2643) [warn] extract error: generic |
| 15:34 | quite a generic message :D | |
| 15:35 | i doubt anyone ever used that wiki page | |
| 15:51 | rambutan | If I log into my library's base opac page (which for us is "http://opac.rhcl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl", and I have items checked out, and I select one of those... |
| 15:52 | drojf | magnuse: have you tried 9256 with dom (and did it work)? for me it seems not to. but then i am not 100% sure that dom is working now |
| 15:53 | rambutan | it takes me to that particular item. However, there doesn't appear a way, other than using the back arrow on the browser, to return to my home/login page (http://.../opac-user.pl), where I have all the "my" stuff (my summary, my fines, my et al). |
| 15:54 | oleonard | rambutan: Isn't that what the back button is for? |
| 15:54 | rambutan | is this standard behavior across all the typical koha opac implementations/customizaatins? |
| 15:54 | jcamins | rambutan: click on your user name in the top right. |
| 15:55 | Or name name, if it's the name name and not the user name. | |
| 15:55 | rambutan | jcamins: ah, yes indeed. that does it. Not terribly intuitive methinks |
| 15:55 | jcamins | rambutan: that's the standard behavior for websites these days, isn't it? |
| 15:55 | That's the way Google/Yahoo/etc. do it. | |
| 15:55 | rambutan | I propose a button, centrally located, that says "return to home account page" |
| 15:55 | oleonard | Linking the logged-in user's name to account information is widespread practice |
| 15:56 | rambutan | hummm, OK |
| 15:56 | oleonard | What would be nice is a link somewhere on opac-detail.pl that says "checked out to you" |
| 15:57 | jcamins | USPS does it too. |
| 15:57 | Their website is not very responsive. | |
| 15:58 | magnuse | drojf: no, i just tried it with the package setup that comes "out of the box", i did not change indexing modes |
| 15:59 | drojf | magnuse: ok then i sign off like it is and mention that somewhere as a possible follow up? |
| 15:59 | magnuse | drojf: works for me ;-) |
| 15:59 | drojf | the out of the box installation works, that is much more than we have now |
| 15:59 | jcamins | Wow. The USPS's "mobile" website is shockingly bad. |
| 16:02 | rambutan: so would I be correct in thinking that you do not like the use of the little person silhouette up in the right corner as the user menu/profile link: http://screencast.com/t/1cJKFSlM | |
| 16:03 | ? | |
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| 16:09 | rambutan | jcamins: for larger screens the upper right is in the proverbial "back 40". I've been looking at yahoo and google, and don't think those web sites are similar enough to be comparable to the koha opac. |
| 16:10 | what I do think is more similar is a site like http://govconnection.com | |
| 16:10 | The govconnection logo in the upper left is always there, and will always take you to the home page | |
| 16:12 | Another, maybe better example, is amazon... | |
| 16:13 | if you login, in the upper right you always see your name, and always "your account", "cart" and "wish list" | |
| 16:14 | however, I'm willing to throw in the towel. It's a minor point probably not worth any further CPU cycles | |
| 16:17 | jcamins | rambutan: what might make sense is to add a link on opac-main on the right side bar. |
| 16:18 | Because there's the link to the home page at the top left, so the user can always get back to there. | |
| 16:21 | drojf | If your KOHA setup is not where your koha source code is, you must copy |
| 16:21 | what is that supposed to mean? | |
| 16:22 | jcamins | drojf: "if you moved all the files away from where they were installed, put them back"? |
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| 16:26 | reiveune1 | bye |
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| 16:50 | * drojf | heads home |
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| 17:04 | maximep | is there any way to delete or mark as invalid an attachment in bz ? |
| 17:04 | sent the wrong patch for bug 9549 | |
| 17:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9549 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, ASSIGNED , Local Cover are not displayed in the Shelf Browser. |
| 17:04 | oleonard | maximep: Click the "details" link next to the patch |
| 17:04 | jcamins | Just mark as obsolete. |
| 17:05 | oleonard | maximep: Then click "edit details" |
| 17:05 | maximep: Check "obsolete" | |
| 17:05 | maximep | ok thanks |
| 17:13 | oleonard | gmcharlt++ |
| 17:13 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 17:13 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 17:14 | * oleonard | calls the bounty hunters away from jcamins' door |
| 17:15 | rambutan | so what's up with the cheering and bounty hunters? |
| 17:15 | jcamins | rambutan: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_RM_3_14_gmcharlt |
| 17:15 | oleonard | rambutan: Which means we don't have to forcibly detain jcamins and require that he serve another term |
| 17:16 | * jcamins | has been fortifying his apartment against that possibility. |
| 17:16 | jcamins | Guess I can reduce the 24/7 anti-kidnapping guards. |
| 17:17 | gmcharlt | oleonard: hey, don't call off the bounty hunters just yet... I need module maintainers! |
| 17:18 | * jcamins | calls the security company to cancel the cancellation. |
| 17:20 | goes to eat some lunch. | |
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| 17:30 | chris_n | gmcharlt++ |
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| 18:23 | drojf | gmcharlt++ |
| 18:25 | * jcamins | is cataloging a book called "L'année du vin" which has a picture of a man spitting out a glass of wine on the front cover. |
| 18:28 | * oleonard | hopes it's a charming vintage illustration at least, rather than a photo |
| 18:28 | jcamins | oleonard: nope. Photo. |
| 18:28 | drojf | lol |
| 18:30 | jcamins | Jeez. |
| 18:30 | We're getting 8lbs of carrots. | |
| 18:30 | And 8lbs of potatoes. | |
| 18:30 | And 3.25lbs of rutabaga. | |
| 18:30 | And 3.5lbs watermelon radishes. | |
| 18:30 | And 3.5lbs beets. | |
| 18:31 | oleonard | There's gonna be stew all up in that place |
| 18:31 | jcamins | And two pieces of Belgian endive and 0.4lbs of collards. |
| 18:32 | That's rather a lot of veggies. | |
| 18:33 | And we still have beets and rutabaga left from last time. | |
| 18:33 | datadoctor | Watermelon radishes...yum! |
| 18:34 | jcamins | datadoctor: you've had them? |
| 18:34 | drojf | i just wanted to ask what that is |
| 18:34 | jcamins | It's a massive radish that is green on the outside and red on the inside like a watermelon. |
| 18:34 | drojf | how can you eat stuff that not even wikipedia knows? :P |
| 18:34 | magnuse | drojf: i think you maybe forgot to change the status on Bug 9256? |
| 18:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 |
| 18:35 | jcamins | drojf: is Wuppertal a place? |
| 18:35 | drojf | magnuse: oh, you are right! will do |
| 18:35 | jcamins: yes | |
| 18:35 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 18:36 | drojf | it sounds great when i think it in english :D |
| 18:36 | magnuse | drojf++ bigtime |
| 18:36 | oleonard | Have you cooked with a watermelon radish before jcamins? |
| 18:37 | jcamins | oleonard: usually I just make them into salads. |
| 18:37 | I stuck a bit of watermelon radish in a gratin once, though. | |
| 18:37 | drojf | what does it taste like? regular radish? |
| 18:37 | jcamins | Milder. |
| 18:37 | Much milder. | |
| 18:37 | drojf | it looks really nice |
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| 19:02 | maximep | if you don't have defined any circulation rules and you don't enter a due date, how is the due date calculated ? |
| 19:02 | jcamins | maximep: it isn't. |
| 19:02 | If you do not have a default circ rule, Koha won't circ. | |
| 19:03 | It's supposed to circ for 21 days, but that doesn't work. | |
| 19:03 | maximep | huh |
| 19:03 | I just truncated the issuingrules table and still was able | |
| 19:04 | somehow it put "11/04/2013 23:59" as my due date | |
| 19:05 | anyway, ill look at the code soon | |
| 19:05 | jcamins | Sounds like a month. |
| 19:05 | maximep | it even looks like a month |
| 19:05 | =) | |
| 19:16 | rangi | Yay a release manager |
| 19:17 | oleonard | Assuming he can get the votes ;) |
| 19:20 | rangi | I'll vote for anyone who isn't me :) |
| 19:21 | jcamins | Ditto. |
| 19:22 | * rangi | takes the kids to school |
| 19:27 | gmcharlt | /nick notrangiandnotjcamins |
| 19:27 | oops! | |
| 19:27 | ;) | |
| 19:27 | jcamins | Hehe. |
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| 20:16 | oleonard | Later #koha |
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| 20:55 | bag | afternoon peeps |
| 20:57 | rambutan | afternoon |
| 21:00 | bag | heya rambutan |
| 21:01 | rangi | hi bag and rambutan |
| 21:01 | bag | yo rangi |
| 21:05 | rambutan | hi rangi |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | hi :) |
| 21:08 | rambutan | hi wizzyrea |
| 21:17 | rangi | anyone know danish? |
| 21:17 | http://www.reindex.dk/ | |
| 21:19 | jcamins | rangi: it says "Biblioteker hos Reindex." |
| 21:19 | wizzyrea | oo there's a norwegian language option |
| 21:19 | still don't speak that but i do know someone who does :P | |
| 21:19 | rangi | it looks like some kinda ILS .. but i dont think its free software? |
| 21:20 | rambutan | the google translation looks pretty good |
| 21:20 | * Dyrcona | was going to suggest google translate. |
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| 21:21 | Dyrcona | rangi: Looks like they are affiliated with Index Data somehow. |
| 21:21 | rangi | maybe just the catalogue part ... |
| 21:21 | jcamins | Under system it does say "open source." |
| 21:21 | rambutan | the two main paragraphs are kinda vague, however. "...modern, flexible system that effectively supports information workers exposure of information and services in an organization." |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | operational performance is $ 10,000 plus $ 5,000 per. employed in the library. |
| 21:21 | cait | hi #koha, hi jcamins, rangi, Dyrcona and rambutan :) |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | yikes per employee! |
| 21:21 | Dyrcona | The whole thing looks vague to me. |
| 21:21 | rangi | *nod* |
| 21:21 | rambutan | hi cait! |
| 21:21 | rangi | hiya cait |
| 21:21 | * Dyrcona | bows. |
| 21:21 | cait | :) |
| 21:22 | * cait | survived her presentation - no more slides! |
| 21:22 | rangi | yay! |
| 21:22 | * jcamins | starts charging for Koha at that rate. |
| 21:22 | * cait | hands out lots of cookies |
| 21:22 | jcamins | Bwahahaha!!!!!!!! |
| 21:22 | cait | what are you looking at? |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | yay cait! |
| 21:22 | jcamins | A closed source ILS. |
| 21:23 | Wow. That's really ugly. | |
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| 21:23 | wizzyrea | ew, it is |
| 21:24 | cait | a closed source list with an open price list? |
| 21:24 | hi Viktor :) | |
| 21:25 | jcamins | I know, weird, right? |
| 21:25 | Viktor | Hi cait ! |
| 21:25 | rangi | does Viktor read danish? :-) |
| 21:26 | Viktor | Might read ok rangi I'm not so good with spoken danish though |
| 21:26 | rangi | http://www.reindex.dk/ |
| 21:26 | jcamins | I think it might be saying that XML is open source. |
| 21:26 | rangi | heard of this before? |
| 21:27 | jcamins | Hard to say, as I don't know Danish. |
| 21:28 | * magnuse | waves |
| 21:28 | rangi | oh magnuse is here :) |
| 21:28 | magnuse | in da house! |
| 21:29 | rangi | heh |
| 21:29 | Dyrcona | Call me crazy, but this: http://www.reindex.dk/index.php?Lang=dan gives me the page in English! |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | chrome? |
| 21:29 | wahanui | rumour has it chrome is not free software |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | chrome autotranslates |
| 21:29 | jcamins | That looks very Danish to me. |
| 21:30 | Though they have an English option. | |
| 21:30 | Dyrcona | Time to go.... |
| 21:30 | jcamins | Which is also in Danish... |
| 21:30 | wahanui | okay, jcamins. |
| 21:30 | magnuse | that is an ils, yes and it's not free software |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | oh no, their links are confused |
| 21:30 | jcamins | which? |
| 21:30 | wahanui | it has been said that which is in Danish... |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | lang=dan gives english |
| 21:30 | Dyrcona | Chromium must be messing with me... |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | lang=eng gives danish |
| 21:30 | jcamins | lang=dan gives Danish for me. |
| 21:30 | Viktor | It's danish alright |
| 21:30 | jcamins | Ooh, there we go! |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | hehe well something has gone funny then :) |
| 21:31 | * wizzyrea | sees english with lang=dan |
| 21:31 | eythian | lang=nor gives me english, the others are danish |
| 21:31 | also, hello | |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | hahaha so - it's random language ^.^ |
| 21:31 | * wizzyrea | waits for farsi |
| 21:31 | eythian | I think so, yeah |
| 21:31 | Viktor | But it does'nt say XML is open source. It says that their product uses standard parts :) |
| 21:32 | jcamins | wizzyrea: ooh, that'd be nice! |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | pretty too |
| 21:32 | jcamins | One I know. |
| 21:32 | magnuse | i think there are ~2 libraries in norway using reindex |
| 21:34 | eythian | the opac looks like a mobile site when viewed on a desktop browser |
| 21:34 | very sparse and not showing much | |
| 21:34 | Viktor | So: it seems like the average proprietary product. But they do mention open source on their site. But show no sign of licensing their own product with an open license. |
| 21:35 | magnuse | they have connections to indexdata, but i'm not sure how |
| 21:35 | Viktor | Can I ask a quick one one another topic? |
| 21:35 | magnuse | ask? |
| 21:35 | wahanui | Don't ask to ask, just ask. |
| 21:36 | magnuse | ;-) |
| 21:36 | Viktor | Where in the manual do I look for how to transfer books for something like six months to another branch? |
| 21:37 | During which the books "live" at the new branch. | |
| 21:37 | bag | there you go dcook http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_RM_3_14_gmcharlt |
| 21:37 | magnuse | ah, that would be rotating collections, i think? |
| 21:37 | rangi | yep thats it |
| 21:37 | bag | I may have missed the announcement earlier :P but late is better than never :D |
| 21:37 | Viktor | Aha! Did'nt know what to search for! Thanks! |
| 21:37 | jcamins | I thought rotating collections was disabled due to security concerns? |
| 21:37 | magnuse | Viktor: see bug 8836 |
| 21:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8836 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Resurrect Rotating Collections |
| 21:38 | rangi | viktor to do it without that feature |
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| 21:38 | rangi | what you would do is batch update |
| 21:38 | so do a report to get the items you want to move | |
| 21:39 | bag | oh I like this "Broadening Koha's appeal and making it ready for a post-MARC world. " |
| 21:39 | rangi | then batch update them, changing their home branch, (and holding/current) and put a non-public note in, so you can search for them again (transferred 2013-03-13 or somethign) |
| 21:40 | thats the way you can do it now maybe put in the branch they should go back to into the note too | |
| 21:40 | until rotating collections is fixed | |
| 21:40 | * rangi | hopes that was helpful not confusing |
| 21:40 | Viktor | Aha - so there might be a feature back up to do it but there is also a functioning workaround. |
| 21:40 | Sounds fully ok! Thanks! | |
| 21:41 | rangi | bag: yeah we should take the stuff magnus has done, the semantikoha work as a good start |
| 21:41 | bag | totally agree |
| 21:41 | cait | :) |
| 21:41 | 3.14 will be exciting | |
| 21:41 | bag | I'm looking forward to next week - when I've got time to dig into those things :D |
| 21:41 | cait | like every koha release :) |
| 21:41 | bag: yepme too!! | |
| 21:41 | and into the bug pile | |
| 21:41 | bag | and not have to do hiring or taxes, or HR or other time sucks :P |
| 21:42 | * cait | nods similar here -- well different things, but doing actually only one thing most of the time will be nice :) |
| 21:42 | bag | oh cait khall and I arrive to Marseille sunday night around 18:30 I believe |
| 21:42 | cait | oh nice |
| 21:42 | ant to have dinner? :) | |
| 21:42 | jcamins | Just a reminder that if you want your work to go into 3.12 and not require massive amounts of rebasing, the hackfest is a good time to focus on bugs and almost-ready features. |
| 21:43 | bag | Yes |
| 21:43 | and yes to jcamins | |
| 21:43 | magnuse | bag: more than happy to talk semantikoha with you or anyeone else ;-) |
| 21:43 | bag | that's my thought too… daytime bugs :) nighttime digging :) |
| 21:43 | awesome I will take you up on that magnuse | |
| 21:44 | cait | so one yes was about dinner? :) |
| 21:44 | bag: do you have access to the google docs? | |
| 21:44 | bag | yes one was about dinner |
| 21:45 | magnuse | bag: yay! |
| 21:45 | cait | i think you have - I can leave the room number there, so you can just knock when you arrive? |
| 21:45 | bag | hmm.. cait I believe so |
| 21:45 | cait | or check #koha |
| 21:45 | :) | |
| 21:45 | bag | awesome… |
| 21:45 | cait | my train arrives about 2 hours earlier |
| 21:45 | so I will probably be at the hotel I think at the time you arrive | |
| 21:46 | so you and kyle now? | |
| 21:46 | bag | sweet - so Kyle and I arrive in paris the day before - and we are going to try and pack in some touristing |
| 21:46 | so we maybe a bit tired and just do dinner and crash :) | |
| 21:46 | cait | I think maybe dpavlin too |
| 21:47 | rangi | creme brulee |
| 21:47 | bag | yup just kyle and I from here :) |
| 21:47 | cait | you can sleep on the train! :) |
| 21:47 | sleep is totally overrated | |
| 21:47 | jcamins | I went to a very interesting seder in Paris. |
| 21:47 | bag | I've never been on a super fast train - I don't think I will sleep |
| 21:47 | rangi | you guys should totally try to go see ecole de mines |
| 21:47 | jcamins | And an absolutely lovely one in Lille. |
| 21:47 | rangi | in paris |
| 21:47 | bag | I want to check everything out! |
| 21:47 | rangi | the site of the first kohacon ever |
| 21:47 | cait | eiffel tower? :) |
| 21:48 | I have never been there but it might be a bit much for one day :) | |
| 21:48 | rangi | and a beautiful library |
| 21:48 | jcamins | I visited the Eiffel Tower. |
| 21:48 | bag | I think we are going to hit up Versailles and maybe the louve if the lines aren't crazy long |
| 21:48 | yeah I've been up the Eliffel tower before | |
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| 21:49 | rangi | hi tcohen |
| 21:49 | tcohen | hi rango |
| 21:49 | rangi | |
| 21:49 | * wizzyrea | wonders if tcohen has kids |
| 21:50 | tcohen | i don't |
| 21:50 | (yet) | |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | then you haven't probably had the pleasure of seeing the movie Rango. |
| 21:50 | :) | |
| 21:50 | bag | anybody up for testing and signing off (well if passes) bug 7736 ? |
| 21:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7736 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mark.gavillet, Needs Signoff , Edifact QUOTE and ORDER functionality |
| 21:50 | tcohen | heh, you're right |
| 21:50 | magnuse | ah gmcharlt++ |
| 21:50 | bag | I think it would take a little bit of time - not a quick or easy one |
| 21:51 | yeah gmcharlt++ I'm enjoying what I've been reading so far | |
| 21:52 | tcohen | bag, I can only offer testing and signing if you do the same with bug 9735 and/or bug 9659 |
| 21:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Choose language using URL parameters in any page |
| 21:52 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9659 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports | |
| 21:52 | tcohen | :-P |
| 21:53 | gmcharlt | bag: do you know of any materials vendors that have done EDI interchange using that patch series? |
| 21:53 | bag | I will start looking tcohen |
| 21:53 | gmcharlt: there are some in England that has worked for (ptfs europe) | |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | bug 9659 is signed off :) |
| 21:53 | * jcamins | heads out. |
| 21:54 | bag | and I've tested with baker and taylor here - and they said it would be passable… |
| 21:54 | besides that gmcharlt no | |
| 21:55 | gmcharlt | bag: ah, now I see where you said so in the bug |
| 21:55 | * cait | waves to gmcharlt |
| 21:55 | cait | gmcharlt++ |
| 21:55 | bag | tcohen: 9735 looks easy enough - will test soon :) |
| 21:55 | tcohen | gmcharlt++ |
| 21:55 | thanks bag | |
| 21:56 | magnuse | meeting in ~20 hours, right? |
| 21:56 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng,_13_March_2013 | |
| 21:57 | gmcharlt | magnuse: 19 hours and four minutes |
| 21:57 | no, make tha t20 | |
| 21:57 | * gmcharlt | apparently can't do basic arithmetic today |
| 21:57 | magnuse | http://www.timeanddate.com/cou[…]General%20Meeting :-) |
| 21:58 | basic arithmetic - who needs it? ;-) | |
| 21:58 | gmcharlt | magnuse++ |
| 21:58 | magnuse | yay |
| 21:59 | cait | i got meetings so may miss it |
| 21:59 | tcohen | I'll be migrating the last ISIS-based library we have, will try to be there |
| 22:00 | * magnuse | will be home alone with the kiddo and will probably miss most too |
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| 22:04 | magnuse | wizzyrea++ for working on bug 9784 |
| 22:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9784 minor, P5 - low, ---, liz, ASSIGNED , koha-shell missing from koha-common man page |
| 22:04 | * magnuse | needs some sleep |
| 22:04 | magnuse | have fun, #koha! |
| 22:06 | rangi | cya magnuse |
| 22:06 | eythian | bye magnuse |
| 22:06 | magnuse | o/ |
| 22:09 | eythian | "Broadening Koha's appeal and making it ready for a post-MARC world." <-- "post-MARC world" sounds like "post apocalyptic world", except it's MARC, so it's more like "post-post-apocalyptic world" |
| 22:09 | wizzyrea | @quote add eythian: "Broadening Koha's appeal and making it ready for a post-MARC world." <-- "post-MARC world" sounds like "post apocalyptic world", except it's MARC, so it's more like "post-post-apocalyptic world" |
| 22:09 | huginn | wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 22:10 | wizzyrea | @quote add eythian: "Broadening Koha's appeal and making it ready for a post-MARC world." <-- "post-MARC world" sounds like "post apocalyptic world", except it's MARC, so it's more like "post-post-apocalyptic world" |
| 22:10 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #236 added. |
| 22:10 | wizzyrea | mua hahahahahaha |
| 22:18 | gmcharlt | eythian++ |
| 22:23 | bag | :D |
| 22:23 | * bag | loves it |
| 22:31 | eythian | gmcharlt: I like your linux-kernel model of module owners. |
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| 22:38 | gmcharlt | rangi++ # splinter review |
| 22:41 | * cait | goes to bed |
| 22:41 | cait | last day of conf tomorrow |
| 22:41 | bye all :) | |
| 22:42 | eythian | later caiter |
| 22:43 | cait | lol :) |
| 22:43 | later! | |
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| 22:43 | gmcharlt | eythian: good, I'm hope that folks will volunteer |
| 22:48 | rangi | figured we could try it out |
| 23:02 | eythian | gmcharlt: I was using my executive authority for package related things to put bug 9784 straight into passed qa :) |
| 23:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9784 minor, P5 - low, ---, liz, Signed Off , koha-shell missing from koha-common man page |
| 23:02 | gmcharlt | eythian: fair enough, I think it was still showing as needs sign-off when I grab it |
| 23:02 | eythian | (otherwise we risk getting important but simple packaging patches stuck as fewer people know how to test them) |
| 23:02 | ah right, cool | |
| 23:03 | wizzyrea | did you like my thorough but altogether not particularly necessary test plan? >.> |
| 23:03 | gmcharlt | eythian: it's part of my teaching myself more about Debian packaging, but that certainly need not hold up packaging patches |
| 23:03 | eythian | ah cool, no problem |
| 23:03 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: I found it lacking... |
| 23:04 | eythian | more people knowing about packaging would not hold anything up :) |
| 23:04 | gmcharlt | step -2: attend elementary school |
| 23:04 | wizzyrea | lol. |
| 23:04 | gmcharlt | step -1: learn to read ... ;) |
| 23:04 | eythian | though it does make me think I should write a test case that ensures that all the man page XML files pass validation. |
| 23:05 | gmcharlt | indeed |
| 23:08 | rangi | whack it in xt |
| 23:08 | eythian | what's the difference between t/ and xt/? |
| 23:08 | is it just "code" vs. "extra things"? | |
| 23:09 | rangi | t is for unit tests like functionality stuffs |
| 23:09 | xt is for prerelease type tests | |
| 23:09 | gmcharlt | xt = author tests |
| 23:09 | eythian | ah right |
| 23:09 | rangi | like checking validity of xml man files, or checking copyright headers etc |
| 23:09 | eythian | does it run on a standard make? |
| 23:09 | rangi | nope |
| 23:10 | make test just runs t. | |
| 23:10 | t/ even | |
| 23:10 | eythian | hmm. Should probably make it run on a package build then perhaps. |
| 23:10 | rangi | but jenkins runs xt and my release scripts do too |
| 23:10 | ooh good idea | |
| 23:10 | eythian | ah right |
| 23:10 | rangi | making it run on package build wouldnt hurt at all |
| 23:10 | it checks for things that make templates untranslatable and stuff too | |
| 23:11 | so is handy to run | |
| 23:11 | eythian | yeah |
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| 23:29 | trea | question about sco-main.pl in 3.8.5 - is it possible to get it to timeout a patron session, without timing out the staff session that enables it? we're getting feedback saying that the staff session also times out, which is a problem for some of our libraries. |
| 23:30 | rangi | short answer no |
| 23:30 | there is only one session timeout variable | |
| 23:30 | trea | i personally don't think it's wise to leave sessions open in perpetuity, but 123 and all that |
| 23:31 | rangi | so both those users will timeout the same time due to inactivity |
| 23:31 | you could trick it | |
| 23:33 | with a piece of js that called the logout after some inactivity | |
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| 23:44 | bag | hey welcome back dcook |
| 23:44 | dcook | hey bag! thanks :) |
| 23:45 | Watch the IT crowd, yet? | |
| 23:46 | bag | Sonja and I watched the first episode last night |
| 23:47 | dcook | Good, bad, somewhere in between? |
| 23:49 | bag | oh we enjoyed it - we'll watch more |
| 23:53 | dcook | :D |
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