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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | rangi | pretty good, short conference, just a one day one but pretty good |
| 00:00 | its always hard to know libraries move so slow | |
| 00:00 | dcook | Mmm very true |
| 00:01 | I had a chat to a librarian about that on Friday actually. She was saying how it's taken a year to even get to the point of deciding to maybe make a decision | |
| 00:01 | wizzyrea | the seeds you planted will sprout in a few months/years |
| 00:02 | rangi | *nod* |
| 00:02 | ive had ones take 6 | |
| 00:02 | years | |
| 00:02 | thats the longest :) | |
| 00:02 | dcook | Wow... |
| 00:03 | Well, as wizzyrea has said, it will happen eventually :) | |
| 00:04 | Hmm, I just had a thought | |
| 00:05 | I've been thinking about proposing some sort of online class to UBC relating to Koha, programming, open source, etc (even though I don't have the time to teach), but...maybe some sort of online workshop would be better | |
| 00:05 | Maybe just something where I show people how they can edit templates and then maybe some back-end scripts. Just to whet their appetites... | |
| 00:05 | rangi | koustabha wanted to start that |
| 00:05 | academy.koha-community.org | |
| 00:06 | basically we could run up a moodle | |
| 00:06 | and then it just needs content, content is where it fell down | |
| 00:06 | dcook | Hmm, that page isn't coming up |
| 00:06 | Hmm, what kind of content? | |
| 00:06 | rangi | yep, i turned it off again there was no content |
| 00:06 | workshops | |
| 00:06 | tests | |
| 00:06 | dcook | ahh |
| 00:06 | rangi | etc |
| 00:06 | dcook | Tutorials? |
| 00:06 | rangi | yup |
| 00:06 | * dcook | loves this idea |
| 00:07 | rangi | it does need someone to set it up/ populate/maintain etc |
| 00:07 | and that someone cant be me :) | |
| 00:07 | but i can totally point a domain at it :) | |
| 00:07 | dcook | Ideally, I would love something like TryRuby (http://tryruby.org/levels/1/challenges/0), but I'm not sure how that would work |
| 00:08 | You are only one person after all ;) | |
| 00:09 | Hmm, I'll keep this in mind. I keep trying to figure out ways to get other people involved in Koha. Even if it's not something they use long-term, I think it'll help a lot of people, especially library students and librarians break out of the concept that they have to be consumers rather than producers | |
| 00:09 | wizzyrea | ^^ a noble goal |
| 00:10 | dcook | Thanks, wizzyrea :) |
| 00:11 | I suppose I was thinking about an online class, because then folks could get academic credit for it, which helps with the whole "how am I supposed to learn anything when I'm already bombarded by classes, future job angst, paying my rent, etc etc" | |
| 00:11 | rangi | you could totally have librarians writing tutorials/tests |
| 00:11 | yep moodle is designed precisely to do that | |
| 00:11 | online classes | |
| 00:11 | wizzyrea | it's like the foss version of blackboard |
| 00:11 | dcook | writing tutorials/tests? |
| 00:11 | wizzyrea | but cooler cuz it's foss |
| 00:11 | dcook | Mmm, I've heard of a few people using it |
| 00:11 | wizzyrea | tons of folks use moodle. |
| 00:12 | heaps | |
| 00:12 | dcook | Right, it's the PHP one |
| 00:12 | * dcook | thinks he has seen something about integrating moodle and koha on the community site |
| 00:12 | rangi | yep that would be good too |
| 00:12 | then you can catalogue your course :) | |
| 00:13 | wizzyrea | or link directly to catalogue resources |
| 00:13 | or place a hold from moodle. | |
| 00:13 | that would be cool. | |
| 00:13 | kinda like course reserves | |
| 00:14 | dcook | Mmm, I didn't realize that Catalyst supported moodle as well |
| 00:14 | rangi | yup |
| 00:14 | dcook | You folks do all sorts |
| 00:14 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 00:15 | dcook | Bug 3511 Looks like Cait was thinking similar thoughts recently |
| 00:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3511 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Integration with Moodle |
| 00:15 | bgkriegel | Hi all. We use moodle extensively at the university (doing a revision of class right now). I could setup a site, that's the easy part. The content... it's more difficult. |
| 00:16 | dcook | hey bgkriegel. Yeah, I'm trying to think of the content. Or rather...fun content :p |
| 00:16 | bgkriegel | :) |
| 00:17 | dcook | To be honest, I've never been a big fan of Blackboard so I'm not even sure what Moodle can do |
| 00:17 | rangi | moodle is only like blackboard in that they are both learning management systems |
| 00:17 | dcook | hehe |
| 00:17 | rangi | blackboard sux, moodle doesnt |
| 00:17 | dcook | Good to know ;) |
| 00:18 | I suppose the content would just be instructions rather than interactive content, right? | |
| 00:18 | rangi | it can be either |
| 00:18 | dcook | I suppose if it was set up like BibLibre's sandboxes.. |
| 00:19 | wizzyrea | ?! why wouldn't people just get an account and go at their own speed? |
| 00:19 | * wizzyrea | might be missing something |
| 00:19 | dcook | I'm thinking about developing Koha rather than using Koha |
| 00:19 | rangi | you can do all sorts of courses |
| 00:20 | wizzyrea | no, that doesn't change my confusion. |
| 00:20 | :) | |
| 00:20 | dcook | hehe |
| 00:20 | I'm just wondering how you get multiple people to edit Koha at their own speed | |
| 00:20 | rangi | dcook: first course |
| 00:20 | set up a dev koha instance | |
| 00:21 | wizzyrea | install koha / gitify |
| 00:21 | ^ this | |
| 00:21 | dcook | Which is exactly what I was thinking in th e shower the other day... |
| 00:21 | wizzyrea | i mean, first course. |
| 00:21 | dcook | It really must be monday |
| 00:21 | The dev koha instance that is | |
| 00:21 | Gitify? | |
| 00:22 | wizzyrea | (it's still in it's infancy but - https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify) |
| 00:23 | takes a package install and turns it into a developer instance using a git clone | |
| 00:25 | dcook | Hmmm. I'll give it a whirl. |
| 00:25 | wizzyrea | do report any bugs you find. :P |
| 00:26 | dcook | I finally updated my Debian VM over the weekend, but it's just on my older laptop, so I need to pickup a decent machine to give me a bit more power |
| 00:27 | I know we already have some docos for package installs and git installs, but...I want to go through the processes again and try to make them as user-friendly as possible | |
| 00:27 | Well, not user-friendly...as explicit and easy to understand as possible | |
| 00:28 | cjh | dcook: I have done some work on this recently |
| 00:29 | dcook | Oh? How do you mean, cjh? |
| 00:29 | cjh | dcook: for the Catalyst open source academy I made some instructions for installing koha, making it a dev install, making a simple fix, git basics and the upstreaming it |
| 00:30 | I was planning to go through them at some point and possibly move them to the koha community wiki | |
| 00:30 | dcook | Oooh. Very cool, cjh! |
| 00:31 | If I went through it sometime, would you like some feedback about it? | |
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| 00:32 | cjh | ill message you dcook :) |
| 00:32 | dcook | Awesome, thanks, cjh :) |
| 00:45 | * dcook | plots away on how to bring Koha to the world |
| 00:45 | dcook | Perhaps Canada first as a pilot ;) |
| 00:45 | eythian | too late, it's already in most of the world :) |
| 00:45 | dcook | Touché :p |
| 00:46 | Then I'll plot to bring the world to Koha ;) | |
| 00:46 | eythian | that'll work :) |
| 00:46 | dcook | My home province has 306 libraries |
| 00:46 | I think all or most of them are part of a consortium now, but I think it's awefully expensive | |
| 00:47 | 306 public libraries* | |
| 00:47 | They have the resources where they could be running (and developing) Koha. | |
| 00:47 | * dcook | thinks that rangi mentioned that PEI is using Koha for all its public libraries...no, all its school libraries |
| 00:48 | rangi | yep school |
| 00:49 | http://www.gov.pe.ca/index.php[…]7681&dept=&lang=E | |
| 00:53 | wizzyrea | what's funny is that lots of koha libraries do this thing where they take the license fees they are saving, and instead of using that money to say, fix up things that bug them about koha, they buy books and expect people to fix their issues in koha for free :(. That's not universally true, of course but often so. |
| 00:53 | because they misunderstand the meaning of the word "Free" in "free software" | |
| 00:55 | dcook | :( |
| 00:57 | wizzyrea | certainly, if libraries put even a quarter of the extra money they were saving back into Koha, we could do some really kickass stuff. |
| 01:30 | jcamins | Could someone please do a pull on master and run updatedatabase? |
| 01:32 | I can't switch at the moment because I'm working on something else,and I can't tell if there's a syntax error. | |
| 01:32 | bgkriegel | jcamins: done, but what's the problem |
| 01:33 | jcamins | bgkriegel: it died abruptly for me with no error reported. |
| 01:34 | bgkriegel | is there an update? |
| 01:35 | last log in file is "3dc0f57 Bug 9767: Fix for updatedatabase.pl (mixed version numbers)" | |
| 01:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9767 critical, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Fix for updatedatabase.pl (mixed version numbers) |
| 01:35 | jcamins | That's the last patch I had too. |
| 01:35 | Thanks. | |
| 01:35 | bgkriegel | ok |
| 01:35 | jcamins | Must've been something specific to this test server. |
| 01:36 | That is good. :) | |
| 01:38 | wizzyrea | I'm doing 23 -> 25 right now |
| 01:38 | but it seems to work fine | |
| 01:59 | dcook | What do folks think about adding some Javascript to "doc-head-close" to disable submit buttons when they're clicked? |
| 02:00 | I've heard from people getting duplicate patrons from double-clicking on the patron entry submit | |
| 02:00 | rangi | how about a hand to clip impatient ppl about the head? |
| 02:00 | id pay for that :) | |
| 02:00 | jcamins | rangi: I like that idea. |
| 02:00 | dcook | That would be a lot of hands, rangi ;) |
| 02:01 | wizzyrea | dcook there's a jquery function |
| 02:01 | preventdoubleformsubmit | |
| 02:01 | rangi | dcook: i dont really like the idea, however if you made it do a loading with a circle thingy instead |
| 02:01 | wizzyrea | or somesuch |
| 02:01 | rangi | so they can see something is happening |
| 02:01 | wizzyrea | that should prevent that |
| 02:01 | rangi | or they will just refresh |
| 02:02 | ie i think the problem is they dont think something is happening, so hit submit again | |
| 02:02 | wizzyrea | right, prevent double form submit should take care of that |
| 02:02 | it's in use all over the place | |
| 02:02 | rangi | it does a loading popup? |
| 02:02 | wizzyrea | naw, but it prevents double form submits |
| 02:02 | rangi | yeah, see that just annoys me |
| 02:02 | wizzyrea | if you double click only the first goes through |
| 02:02 | rangi | thats a hack to not solve the problem |
| 02:03 | the problem is they are not seeing they have done something | |
| 02:03 | dcook | Well, my thought was you disable the button and change the value to "Submitting" or something like that |
| 02:03 | So, both ideas | |
| 02:03 | Prevent double-clicking, while also showing that something is happening | |
| 02:04 | wizzyrea | this may be a personal taste thing - I kind of hate that, but I've learned where to look to verify that I've done something. Users not so much. |
| 02:04 | so sure, turn it into a submit button. | |
| 02:04 | rangi | its gonna get worse |
| 02:05 | more and more ppl browse with the url bar hidden | |
| 02:05 | specially on mobile devices | |
| 02:05 | wizzyrea | i mean change the button into something |
| 02:05 | else | |
| 02:05 | you could probably add that to the doubleformsubmit function, then it would apply everywhere that's in use | |
| 02:06 | dcook | It doesn't seem very prevalent when I grep it |
| 02:06 | opac-reserve.tt | |
| 02:06 | request.tt | |
| 02:06 | wizzyrea | it's only been put in places where people have reported double submits causing problems |
| 02:06 | dcook | Mmm |
| 02:06 | wizzyrea | but it's included on ever page in the intranet |
| 02:06 | every* | |
| 02:06 | because it's in an include. | |
| 02:06 | you can use it anywhere. | |
| 02:07 | it's in use in fines too | |
| 02:07 | dcook | Ah, I might be looking at an old branch |
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| 02:07 | dcook | What are your thoughts rangi on disabling and changing the value? |
| 02:08 | Perhaps not as elegant as a circle thingy, but... | |
| 02:08 | rangi | as long as its obvious they have clicked it |
| 02:08 | dcook | The only issue with that, wizzyrea, is that a person would need to change every instance :/ |
| 02:08 | rangi | so they don't file a bug, i filled in the form but couldnt hit submit |
| 02:08 | cos you know they will | |
| 02:08 | wizzyrea | it's an include? you should only need to update it once? |
| 02:09 | maybe I"m not following you. | |
| 02:09 | dcook | I mean you need to reference the function in regards to each form |
| 02:09 | Rather than just targetting all submit buttons | |
| 02:10 | I suppose you might not always have a "submit" button per se though.. | |
| 02:10 | rangi: That's true. I like the idea of the circle...I want to say that's in use for the framework import/export... | |
| 02:11 | Huh... | |
| 02:11 | Apparently the login screen/submit button already has it in place | |
| 02:11 | lol | |
| 02:12 | Except my login failed and now I can't re-submit without refreshing the page | |
| 02:12 | rangi | yup yup |
| 02:12 | dcook | or...wtf... |
| 02:12 | eythian | it should probably be a class you add to buttons that you want it on |
| 02:12 | wizzyrea | bootstrap might have one |
| 02:13 | also might have that kind of thing built in - I haven't looked | |
| 02:13 | dcook | Yeah, I was just thinking that, wizzyrea |
| 02:13 | Except that I just updated my db before applying that mixed version number patch.. | |
| 02:13 | And now can't even get into the dev instance.. | |
| 02:14 | Ahh | |
| 02:14 | My mistake it appears.. | |
| 02:14 | * dcook | shuts up and goes about fixing it |
| 02:18 | eythian | http://rc.getbootstrap.com/css/ <-- hope we're using bootstrap 3 :) |
| 02:20 | jcamins | eythian: Bootstrap 3 does not appear to have been released? |
| 02:20 | eythian | no, I think it's still rc. |
| 02:21 | drop the /css off that URL and you can download it. | |
| 02:22 | dcook | wizzyrea: I'm not noticing that preventdoubleselect in fines O_o |
| 02:23 | wizzyrea | preventdoubleformsubmit |
| 02:23 | oh, and you know why | |
| 02:23 | dcook | mhm |
| 02:23 | wizzyrea | because it hasn't been pushed yet |
| 02:23 | dcook | Ahh |
| 02:23 | That could do it | |
| 02:23 | wizzyrea | it just got through qa yesterday |
| 02:23 | sorry, I thought that was in ages ago, it's been outstanding for a while | |
| 02:24 | dcook | Hmm |
| 02:25 | I'm not sure if it works or not.. | |
| 02:27 | Yeah...I don't know if that function actually works | |
| 02:27 | * dcook | just put 11 holds on the same item on the master staff client |
| 02:27 | wizzyrea | it was working the last time I checked it |
| 02:28 | dcook | Hmm, my bad |
| 02:29 | jcamins | See? Someone else was able to do that! |
| 02:29 | dcook | I was using a modded script |
| 02:29 | But I see what rangi was saying | |
| 02:29 | jcamins: ? | |
| 02:30 | jcamins | dcook: I have regularly ended up with multiple holds on a single item. |
| 02:30 | dcook | Intriguing |
| 02:30 | jcamins | But I've never noticed it when it happened, just afterwards when something wonky happened to my holds. |
| 02:30 | dcook | When I tried again using the master version, it didn't happen |
| 02:30 | I did it through request.pl though | |
| 02:30 | eythian | it really needs, at the least, a last-ditch "I'm not going to do something silly like that" test. |
| 02:30 | wizzyrea | jcamins that would be fixed in 3.8 |
| 02:31 | * dcook | agrees with eythian |
| 02:31 | dcook | Should probably have server-side validation I would think |
| 02:32 | * jcamins | is generally pro-validation. |
| 02:32 | * dcook | too |
| 02:32 | jcamins | Don't bring quote 123 into play unless someone really wants it. |
| 02:33 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:35 | Grrr. Can't can't the css to refresh on my dev.. | |
| 02:35 | wizzyrea | I don't think there is a situation in existence where a person would want multiple, identical holds. |
| 02:35 | jcamins | wizzyrea: agreed. |
| 02:35 | dcook | Oh, there might be, but they probably shouldn't be allowed to |
| 02:35 | eythian | wizzyrea: what happens if you want the book, and then want it again, huh? |
| 02:35 | bet you didn't think of that! | |
| 02:35 | dcook | hehe |
| 02:36 | I imagine there are lots of patrons who would love to do that | |
| 02:36 | * wizzyrea | gets out the biggest trout in her collection... winds up.... |
| 02:36 | wizzyrea | actually it doesn't work like that |
| 02:36 | the way it works, is when you complete one you complete them all :P | |
| 02:36 | if you are talking about the reserves that are submitted with mad clicking. | |
| 02:36 | though I havne't tested that since we've gotten the reservenumber in there | |
| 02:37 | that may not be true anymore | |
| 02:37 | which is even more reason to not let people do that | |
| 02:42 | jcamins | wizzyrea: except if you fill one hold don't you fill them all anyway? |
| 02:42 | eythian | wahanui: goatstep is http://youtu.be/1eCbGrMfQ-g |
| 02:42 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 02:42 | wizzyrea | i haven't tested it since we put in the reservenumber, making each reserve unique. |
| 02:42 | jcamins | No, it's transfers that are fill one, fill all. |
| 02:43 | wizzyrea | right, reserves used to be that way too |
| 02:43 | completing one reserve (if there were multiple identical ones) would complete all of the identical ones | |
| 02:43 | but yes, transfers currently if you complete one, in certain circumstances, you complete them all | |
| 02:45 | dcook: bug 8054 was the bug for fines | |
| 02:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8054 normal, P5 - low, ---, liz, Passed QA , can hit submit twice when paying fines |
| 02:45 | wizzyrea | was/is |
| 02:46 | ^^ that one created some big messes. | |
| 02:47 | patrons + money + mad clicking = recipe for mad patrons | |
| 02:47 | dcook | Mmm, no doubt |
| 02:47 | I suppose I could just report a bug for the patron entry/edit screen... | |
| 02:47 | Although now I'm thinking about what rangi said, lol | |
| 02:47 | wizzyrea | /mad/angry/ |
| 02:47 | dcook | Because it really doesn't seem like anything is happening |
| 02:48 | "or not happening" | |
| 02:48 | wizzyrea | pdfs could use some feedback, for sure |
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| 03:02 | wizzyrea | is there in existence an "easy marc framework" |
| 03:02 | dcook | http://henrik.nyh.se/2008/07/j[…]ouble-submission/ |
| 03:02 | Good points | |
| 03:02 | Not with that name? | |
| 03:03 | wizzyrea | i'm just thinking that perhaps we should ship koha with a so-called "easy" framework that used english words |
| 03:03 | not library words. | |
| 03:03 | dcook | Mmm, I've thought about that before too |
| 03:03 | I've actually mentioned to people before that they can rename frameworks to be less imposing | |
| 03:04 | So it might make sense to have a user-friendly framework for non-MARC folk | |
| 03:04 | wizzyrea | yea, i mean it should be completely, utterly possible to do this |
| 03:04 | just a lot of frackin work. | |
| 03:04 | :/ | |
| 03:04 | not that I mind work... | |
| 03:04 | dcook | Depending on how big the easy framework is |
| 03:04 | wizzyrea | I'm thinking small - like |
| 03:04 | dcook | Could probably use the AACR2 minimal cataloguing level as a guide |
| 03:05 | wizzyrea | hm. Yes I like that idea at least it follows some sort of standard. |
| 03:05 | then just take the words and make them normal words. | |
| 03:05 | dcook | Mhm |
| 03:06 | wizzyrea | http://lts.library.cornell.edu/lts/pp/cat/22mlc |
| 03:06 | dcook | https://www.oclc.org/bibformat[…]necataloging.html |
| 03:06 | wizzyrea | I like that, it's less than 20 fields. |
| 03:06 | dcook | Mmm, yours is niccer |
| 03:07 | nicer* | |
| 03:07 | Ohh, yeah, that looks quite good | |
| 03:07 | It could probably even be tightened a bit | |
| 03:07 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 03:07 | I'd leave the isbn and issn | |
| 03:07 | for covers | |
| 03:07 | dcook | Mhm |
| 03:07 | wizzyrea | drop LC call |
| 03:08 | edition is good, imprint could go | |
| 03:08 | physical description could go | |
| 03:08 | no 500's there tho | |
| 03:08 | dcook | Hmm |
| 03:08 | wizzyrea | and no 800's for url's |
| 03:08 | dcook | I used to do a lot of minimal level cataloguing, and we used imprint and physical description |
| 03:08 | wizzyrea | (some people like to put, say, youtube links to movie trailers in the catalog) |
| 03:09 | * jcamins | just got a bark from nagios informing him that his server is down. |
| 03:09 | wizzyrea | oops |
| 03:09 | jcamins | What is notable about this is that the server is actually up. |
| 03:09 | wizzyrea | but it can't be because you are stil lon IRC |
| 03:09 | :) | |
| 03:09 | FOR NOW. | |
| 03:09 | jcamins | In marked contrast to its situation every evening at this time for the last three weeks. |
| 03:09 | Different server. | |
| 03:10 | dcook | :o |
| 03:10 | wizzyrea | oh. oh well. |
| 03:10 | jcamins | I think nagios was just anticipating. |
| 03:10 | dcook | lol |
| 03:10 | jcamins | Which is kind of bizarre, really. |
| 03:12 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
| 03:12 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (4:00 PM NZDT on March 11, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 03:13 | wizzyrea | ^ is more what I expected from summer |
| 03:13 | dcook | @wunder sydney, australia |
| 03:13 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 27.0°C (2:00 PM EST on March 11, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
| 03:13 | dcook | Oh my... |
| 03:13 | wizzyrea | oh, that's decently nice! |
| 03:13 | eythian | it'd probably warm up a bit if there wasn't so much cloud, too |
| 03:13 | dcook | Perhaps I should go and actually take my lunch and finish my book... |
| 03:13 | eythian | if that blows away, the evening may be a bit warmer. |
| 03:14 | wizzyrea | duno the clouds aren't moving very fast today |
| 03:14 | usually they are quite entertaining | |
| 03:18 | dcook | Hmm, pdfs doesn't seem to like the patron entry page.. |
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| 04:05 | dcook | Muahaha |
| 04:05 | wb wizzyrea :) | |
| 04:05 | The muahaha was unrelated to your return... | |
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| 04:43 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 04:43 | dcook | morning, cait :) |
| 04:43 | cait | hi dcook |
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| 05:11 | druthb | o/ |
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| 05:29 | * cait | waves to #koha from a train |
| 05:30 | dcook | Busy busy these days, eh, cait? |
| 05:30 | cait | quite a bit yeah |
| 06:21 | dcook | night #koha! |
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| 07:05 | drojf | good morning #koha |
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| 07:20 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
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| 07:22 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
| 07:23 | cait | guten morgen magnuse |
| 07:23 | hi #koha | |
| 07:23 | * cait | is on a train... |
| 07:23 | drojf | hi cait and magnuse |
| 07:24 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 07:28 | cait | moin drojf |
| 07:36 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 07:36 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 10.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 11, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:37 | magnuse | yay |
| 07:37 | slides? | |
| 07:37 | wahanui | kf should be writing slides |
| 07:38 | cait | wahanui: :P |
| 07:38 | wahanui | i think P is part I know |
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| 07:43 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:43 | wahanui | hello, reiveune |
| 07:43 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
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| 08:02 | asaurat | hi |
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| 08:05 | cait | wine++ |
| 08:05 | hi all :) | |
| 08:06 | sophie_m1 | hello cait |
| 08:06 | magnuse | cait: as in alcoholic beverage or as in windows programs on linux? |
| 08:06 | sophie_m1 | hi #koha |
| 08:06 | magnuse | hiya sophie_m1 |
| 08:06 | cait | running powerpoint in linux |
| 08:06 | drojf | breakfast wine |
| 08:06 | :D | |
| 08:06 | magnuse | cait: ah :-) |
| 08:07 | cait | I had to boot into windows yesterday... I didn't like that much |
| 08:08 | magnuse | eeeks |
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| 08:10 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:10 | cait | hi gaetan_B :) |
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| 08:25 | rangi | hi all |
| 08:25 | magnuse | kia ora rangi |
| 08:26 | ...and paul_p and gaetan_B | |
| 08:27 | cait | hi paul_p |
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| 08:36 | paul_p | hello fany ! |
| 08:36 | ping fany | |
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| 09:09 | cait | @wunder leipzig |
| 09:09 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Willi-Bredel-Strabe DE, Leipzig, Germany is -5.0°C (9:48 AM CET on March 11, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Grains. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
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| 09:31 | Liz Rea: Bug 8682 - Renewals do not appear on quick slips | |
| 09:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8682 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , quick slip: renewals do not appear on quick slips |
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| 10:08 | paul_p | fany http://www.education.gouv.fr/c[…]hiffres-cles.html |
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| 10:11 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9663 - Individual bibliographic record "Save" option requires export permission | |
| 10:11 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 5333 - z3950 normalization should apply only on UNIMARC | |
| 10:11 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9520 -[Revised] - Update default LOC Z39.50 target | |
| 10:11 | * Chris Cormack: Bumping database number | |
| 10:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9663 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Individual bibliographic record "Save" option requires export permission |
| 10:11 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5333 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Undefined value stops import from z39.50 | |
| 10:11 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9520 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , Update default LOC Z39.50 target | |
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| 10:46 | cait | jcamins: ping me when you are awake? |
| 10:48 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #279: SUCCESS in 36 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/279/ |
| 10:48 | * Liz Rea: Bug 8682 - Renewals do not appear on quick slips | |
| 10:48 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9663 - Individual bibliographic record "Save" option requires export permission | |
| 10:48 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 5333 - z3950 normalization should apply only on UNIMARC | |
| 10:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8682 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , quick slip: renewals do not appear on quick slips |
| 10:48 | jenkins_koha | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9520 -[Revised] - Update default LOC Z39.50 target |
| 10:48 | * Chris Cormack: Bumping db version | |
| 10:48 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 8620: Any index in DOM mode sensitive to -x flag of rebuild_zebra.pl | |
| 10:48 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9267 - Ubuntu 12.04 install docs broken | |
| 10:48 | * David Cook: Bug 9586 - Remove $ENV{DEBUG} info from Member Template | |
| 10:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9663 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Individual bibliographic record "Save" option requires export permission |
| 10:48 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5333 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Undefined value stops import from z39.50 | |
| 10:48 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9520 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , Update default LOC Z39.50 target | |
| 10:48 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8620 critical, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Stable , Barcode searching not working correctly | |
| 10:48 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #75 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 10:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9267 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Ubuntu 12.04 install docs broken |
| 10:48 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9586 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Remove $ENV{DEBUG} info from Member Template | |
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| 11:28 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9574: Plack fixes for serials/subscription-add.pl | |
| 11:28 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 8620: Any index in DOM mode sensitive to -x flag of rebuild_zebra.pl | |
| 11:28 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 9656: Make logging to a file optional (for fines) | |
| 11:28 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9656: Followup Make logging to a file optional (for fines) | |
| 11:28 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9620: IncludeSeeFromInSearches and data in $9 subfields can break indexing | |
| 11:28 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9570 - view plain not working in ccsr | |
| 11:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9574 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , serials/subscription-add.pl does not work right under Plack |
| 11:28 | jenkins_koha | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9267 - Ubuntu 12.04 install docs broken |
| 11:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8620 critical, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Stable , Barcode searching not working correctly |
| 11:28 | jenkins_koha | * David Cook: Bug 9586 - Remove $ENV{DEBUG} info from Member Template |
| 11:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9656 major, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , fines.pl creating a log file should be optional |
| 11:28 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9620 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , IncludeSeeFromInSearches ON and data in $9 subfields can break indexing | |
| 11:28 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9570 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , view plain not working in ccsr | |
| 11:28 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9267 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Ubuntu 12.04 install docs broken | |
| 11:28 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9586 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Remove $ENV{DEBUG} info from Member Template | |
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| 12:00 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 12:00 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 5.4°C (7:55 AM EDT on March 11, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:01 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 12:01 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0°C (12:50 PM CET on March 11, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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| 12:19 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:20 | jcamins | Interesting. Chrome refuses to run injected javascript. |
| 12:20 | This is good. | |
| 12:20 | magnuse | is it a content policy thing? |
| 12:20 | jcamins | Noscript blocks it too. |
| 12:21 | * magnuse | just read this about "Content Security Policy": http://hashbang.ca/2013/02/01/[…]olicy-with-dancer |
| 12:22 | jcamins | Does anyone have an older version of FF/Chrome? |
| 12:22 | Or *shudder* IE? | |
| 12:22 | oleonard | I have Firefox 3.something |
| 12:22 | And IE8 | |
| 12:23 | IE9. I always forget | |
| 12:24 | jcamins: IE pops up a warning that "Internet Explorer has modified this page to help prevent cross-site scripting" | |
| 12:25 | jcamins | That is good! |
| 12:27 | oleonard | jcamins: In FF 3.6.28 I don't see an alert |
| 12:27 | jcamins | Well, good. |
| 12:30 | oleonard | Oh yeah, I was going to fire up IE anyway to test that calendar patch |
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| 12:36 | jcamins | I think even though the script is blocked I'm still not happy about the XSS possibilities. |
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| 12:43 | oleonard | Bootstrap 3 will drop support for IE7 and FF3.6. jQuery 2.0 will drop support for IE6, 7 and 8. |
| 12:44 | nengard | is anyone else having trouble with koha site? |
| 12:44 | jcamins | nengard: not me. |
| 12:44 | oleonard | Comes up fine for me nengard |
| 12:44 | nengard | hmmm |
| 12:44 | jcamins | oleonard: is there a reason that 9458 couldn't be solved with datatables? |
| 12:44 | nengard | this is in two different places with 2 different connections that I'm having this issue |
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| 12:48 | jcamins | oleonard: I already objected to the save button in bug 9690, right? |
| 12:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9690 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Replace YUI buttons on the catalog search results page with Bootstrap |
| 12:48 | oleonard | Yes |
| 12:48 | jcamins | Good. |
| 12:49 | Also, which bug did you want me to revert? | |
| 12:49 | 9450? | |
| 12:50 | * oleonard | checks |
| 12:51 | oleonard | jcamins: 9446 |
| 12:51 | jcamins | Bug 9446 |
| 12:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9446 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on Z39.50 servers administration page |
| 12:51 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 12:51 | I will do so. | |
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| 12:56 | druthb | o/ |
| 12:57 | oleonard | Hi druthb! |
| 12:57 | druthb | Hi, oleonard! :D |
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| 13:02 | druthb | Hi, edveal! :) |
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| 13:03 | tcohen | morning #koha |
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| 13:03 | druthb | morning, tcohen. :) |
| 13:03 | tcohen | hi druthb, i meant CGI not mod_perl |
| 13:04 | druthb | oh! then, yeah, totally it should work. |
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| 13:05 | edveal | hey there ruth |
| 13:05 | tcohen | but should I use dance? |
| 13:05 | dance; at the end? | |
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| 13:16 | tcohen | has anyone used the OAI set definitions? |
| 13:17 | is it functional? | |
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| 13:20 | magnuse | tcohen: i tested it, it should work |
| 13:20 | drojf | tcohen: yes. not in production but i tried it at some point and it worked. i also added patches to allow '0' as a value and choose between 'equal' and 'not equal' to bugzilla |
| 13:20 | i think i have to rebase the second one though | |
| 13:22 | tcohen | thanks magnuse and drojf |
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| 14:49 | rambutan | @wunder 64507 |
| 14:49 | huginn | rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -3.8°C (9:49 AM CDT on March 11, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:50 | oleonard | Not very springlike rambutan |
| 14:50 | @wunder 45701 | |
| 14:50 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 14.4°C (10:21 AM EDT on March 11, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:51 | druthb | @wunder 66046 |
| 14:51 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -3.5°C (9:50 AM CDT on March 11, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:51 | druthb | @wunder 77063 |
| 14:51 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 10.8°C (9:49 AM CDT on March 11, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:51 | druthb | 14C warmer where we're goin'. |
| 14:52 | * oleonard | won't brag because our warm weather won't last |
| 14:53 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 14:53 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 24.0°C (11:00 AM ART on March 11, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:53 | druthb | :P |
| 14:54 | maximep | @wunder cyqb |
| 14:54 | huginn | maximep: The current temperature in lac st-charles, quebec city, Quebec is 8.7°C (10:54 AM EDT on March 11, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:54 | maximep | aaaaaaaaaaah I don't want to work inside |
| 14:57 | tcohen | me too maximep, here because of the air-conditioning heh |
| 14:58 | Dyrcona | @wunder 01845 |
| 14:58 | huginn | Dyrcona: The current temperature in North Andover, Massachusetts is 5.6°C (10:54 AM EDT on March 11, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
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| 16:21 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 16:21 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -1.7°C (5:13 PM CET on March 11, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:21 | drojf | yay! snow! in mid-march! … |
| 16:21 | the spring is a lie | |
| 16:22 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:27 | jcamins | Oh, that was fun. |
| 16:27 | One of my git repos spontaneously shredded itself into little piles of fatal errors. | |
| 16:27 | oleonard | :( |
| 16:28 | The "spontaneous" part is a little scary... | |
| 16:29 | jcamins | oleonard: it sure is! |
| 16:31 | * jcamins | sets it up to replicate to more remotes. |
| 16:32 | oleonard | jcamins: Didn't you define guidelines for patches with details like line length of commit messages? |
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| 16:33 | jcamins | oleonard: yeah, but I don't fail people over that. |
| 16:34 | If it's really egregious, I'll fix it myself, since I like to know what the commit messages say. | |
| 16:34 | commit messages? | |
| 16:34 | wahanui | Please follow the guidelines at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Commit_messages when writing commit messages. |
| 16:34 | oleonard | Ah right, thanks |
| 16:34 | I knew it was on the wiki somewhere | |
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| 16:39 | jcamins | Okay, my repo is now mirrored. |
| 16:39 | I mean, my mirror is mirrored. | |
| 16:47 | rambutan | @later tell wizzyrea you'll be happy to know that we got a dusting of snow lastnight and 22 °F. |
| 16:47 | huginn | rambutan: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:49 | rambutan | jcamins has a recursive mirror? |
| 16:49 | jcamins | rambutan: I do. |
| 16:49 | Well, it's not truly recursive. | |
| 16:49 | A truly recursive mirror would also push to the first repo. | |
| 16:49 | rambutan | :) |
| 16:52 | bag | good morning |
| 16:52 | rambutan | good am! |
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| 17:10 | oleonard | Random git communication blackout field. Must be time for lunch! |
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| 17:20 | bag | I have not tested this. but I've got a question and wanted to see if anyone here knew the answer before I set it up |
| 17:20 | let's say I have 300 items checked out (random number I know but think big) and they have all been renewed to their max | |
| 17:21 | if I have allowrenewal overide set to allow. and I go back and renew all 300 | |
| 17:21 | does that mean I have to deal with the yellow pop-up dialog 300 times - or just once | |
| 17:21 | (hopefully that makes sense) :P | |
| 17:22 | jcamins | bag: I haven't tried it, but I think the dialog will appear only once. |
| 17:22 | bag | w00t |
| 17:22 | :D | |
| 17:22 | jcamins | I'm not sure if it will list all 300 books or just one of them, though. |
| 17:22 | bag | I thought that too |
| 17:22 | jcamins | Definitely a good idea to check, though. |
| 17:22 | bag | well I might as well test - but I'm not testing 300 :P |
| 17:23 | jcamins | You could just test five. |
| 17:23 | bag | I was thinking 2 :P |
| 17:23 | HA | |
| 17:23 | alexanderd | Hi all! I have just a simple question... Could I? |
| 17:23 | bag | of course :) |
| 17:27 | alexanderd | I was searching a SQL query to erase all records, clean koha database |
| 17:28 | bag | what do you mean clean database? |
| 17:28 | you want to get rid of everything in there? | |
| 17:28 | alexanderd | (Koha 3.10.02.000) |
| 17:28 | yes, all records (not everything else) | |
| 17:29 | bag | I'd first make a backup - mysqldump |
| 17:29 | alexanderd | another usefulls SQL querys could be one to backup Global system preferences setup |
| 17:29 | bag | records - you could truncate biblios, biblioitems, and items |
| 17:30 | but then that would not clear your indexes (you'd have to add at least one record back in and then reindex) | |
| 17:30 | and there are also old_bilbios and so on | |
| 17:30 | schema? | |
| 17:30 | wahanui | schema is tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org |
| 17:30 | bag | you may want to look at that |
| 17:31 | if you want to back up system preferences - that would be a mysqldump of just that table | |
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| 17:38 | alexanderd | TRUNCATE TABLE `biblio`, `biblioitems`, `items` ? |
| 17:46 | Thanks! I'll try right now | |
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| 18:32 | oleonard | magnuse still around? |
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| 18:44 | jlozano | hi, all. anybody ever have /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl sever connection to server while adding books? |
| 18:44 | I mean lost connection to server | |
| 18:46 | jcamins | jlozano: only when there is a problem with the internet connection. |
| 18:47 | magnuse | oleonard: briefly :-) |
| 18:48 | oleonard | No big deal magnuse, I was just curious if you had any idea what was going on with Bug 9772 |
| 18:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9772 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Signed Off , Displayed Norwegian chars correctly in the patron category dropdown on the Patrons page |
| 18:49 | oleonard | Your patch works, but I notice the same text doesn't cause problems in other contexts |
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| 18:49 | oleonard | I worried that it was a problem with the menu, so I tested the same text in other menus |
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| 18:51 | jlozano | was that for me? |
| 18:51 | oleonard | No |
| 18:51 | jcamins | jlozano: all I said was that it's almost certainly not a Koha issue that caused the connection to fail. |
| 18:51 | jlozano | ok, great! |
| 18:51 | jcamins | The only time I have the connection interrupted is when there's a problem with the internet connection. |
| 18:52 | jlozano | well, it only happens after I try to add a book. And I've tried 2 different koha installations on different servers. |
| 18:52 | but I guess they always originate from the same place... hmm. | |
| 18:52 | jcamins | Sounds like a local problem. |
| 18:52 | Possibly your browser. | |
| 18:52 | You should always use a modern version of a real browser. | |
| 18:52 | jlozano | hmm tried them all. |
| 18:52 | chrome, fire, ie. | |
| 18:53 | same problem. | |
| 18:53 | yeah, I'll try outside the network. | |
| 18:53 | jcamins | Very odd. My diagnosis would be a misconfigured proxy server on your LAN. |
| 18:57 | magnuse | oleonard: yeah, as i said it feels a bit like curing the symptom, not the decease... |
| 18:58 | oleonard | magnuse: On the bright side I got to test some interesting strings: http://www.columbia.edu/~fdc/utf8/ |
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| 18:58 | magnuse | oleonard: hehe, cool |
| 18:59 | yeah, gotta make sure koha tackles runes :-) | |
| 19:00 | oleonard | There's probably a Tolkien scholar out there... |
| 19:03 | magnuse | yay! |
| 19:03 | there is already a georgian translation - that's one good looking script | |
| 19:04 | jcamins | magnuse: hard to read, though. |
| 19:04 | * magnuse | never tried |
| 19:04 | * jcamins | cataloged a few books in Georgian. |
| 19:04 | jcamins | Boy was that slow. |
| 19:05 | magnuse | hehe |
| 19:05 | * magnuse | has trained a couple of georgian librarians on koha |
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| 19:10 | * oleonard | has been to the Atlanta airport before! |
| 19:10 | jcamins | oleonard: they write very funny there... "y'all," etc. |
| 19:11 | oleonard | They're on to something you know. What do the rest of us do for a second-person plural? |
| 19:12 | jcamins | oleonard: I thought "y'all" was singular in Georgia. |
| 19:12 | I thought the plural was "all y'all." | |
| 19:12 | oleonard | Good point |
| 19:12 | senator | a malicious, unfounded rumor |
| 19:12 | * magnuse | wanders off to eat waffles |
| 19:13 | jcamins | senator: what's the second-person plural? |
| 19:13 | magnuse | oh and oleonard++ for the signoff |
| 19:13 | * oleonard | is trying to pick some low-hanging fruit |
| 19:14 | senator | jcamins: y'all is second person plural, but never singular, except in hollywood scripts |
| 19:15 | jcamins | Interesting. |
| 19:15 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 19:15 | berick | indeed, there is no royal ya'll |
| 19:15 | er, y'all | |
| 19:20 | jlozano | jcamins: thanks so much for your assessment. I RDP'd into my computer at home and was able to catalog the books no problem. must be some blocking here at school. |
| 19:33 | jcamins | jlozano: if I had to guess, I'd say the most likely thing they're blocking is POST requests greater than a certain size. |
| 19:33 | Or they have routing screwed up and your IP is getting changed. | |
| 19:36 | jlozano | they always be getting the routing screwed up! |
| 19:36 | jcamins | jlozano: if it's happened before, then that's definitely the most likely. |
| 19:38 | jlozano | well, it always happens when I try to add the book through circulation, system operates perfectly otherwise. |
| 19:39 | jcamins | jlozano: I mean, if they've had problems with routing in the past, it's probably routing now. |
| 19:46 | jlozano | I'm guessing it's deliveritely blocking some kinds of traffic. |
| 19:47 | jcamins | jlozano: that would be my guess as well. If you have an IT department, you could ask them if there are restrictions on "POST" requests, and if they could please lift them. |
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| 19:56 | jlozano | thanks! that helps. |
| 20:13 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
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| 20:18 | wizzyrea | gah missed oleonard stupid daylight savings. |
| 20:20 | gcb | I just tried updating koha 3.10.02 running on a 64-bit install of Debian 6.06 with no success. The message came back, "The following packages have been kept back: koha-common" The last time that happened, it was because the 64-bit version of koha was compiled on an Ubuntu machine that has a few additional packages beyond Debian. Might that be the issue now? |
| 20:21 | jcamins | gcb: Did you use apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 20:21 | gcb | apt-get upgrade |
| 20:21 | wahanui | it has been said that apt-get upgrade is a lot easier ;-) |
| 20:21 | jcamins | apt-get upgrade will never upgrade between versions when there is a change in dependencies. |
| 20:21 | That's to make sure you can't end up accidentally installing something you don't want. | |
| 20:21 | Try `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` | |
| 20:23 | gcb | just ran apt-get -s dist-upgrade and it looks like that will work |
| 20:23 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 20:24 | gcb | It wanted to install libstring-random-perl |
| 20:24 | y | |
| 20:24 | jcamins | Yeah, that makes sense. |
| 20:25 | gcb | Thanks! |
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| 20:43 | rambutan | do one of the bots keep stats of the number of people logged on to #koha? |
| 20:43 | jcamins | rambutan: I don't think so. |
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| 20:45 | drojf | rambutan: i think rangi had some irc stats in his edinburgh talk. not sure if that had number of people or lines spoken in it |
| 20:45 | jcamins | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/ |
| 20:46 | jlozano | does anyone know what MARC field koha uses to get item specific information? like call number, barcode? |
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| 20:47 | jcamins | jlozano: items are stored in the 952 field, assuming that you're using MARC21. |
| 20:50 | magnuse | ircstats? |
| 20:50 | ircstats is http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/ | |
| 20:51 | rambutan | there are 60+ people logged in right now, just seemed like more than normal, so was wondering if there were records kept somewhere |
| 20:52 | I'm astounded that there are regularly 490+ logins to #reprap on freenode | |
| 20:59 | cjh | wahanui: knock knock |
| 20:59 | wahanui | cjh: huh? |
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| 21:12 | jlozano | hmm, I am. |
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| 21:18 | drojf | magnuse: i would like to try your normarc patch with DOM indexing before i sign off, unfortunately i did not find time to do that today |
| 21:24 | oh. what do we do if there is no release manager? we don't release? | |
| 21:25 | rangi | it wont come to that, someone will step up to do it |
| 21:25 | i just dont want to have to be that person | |
| 21:25 | jcamins | Just in case anyone missed it, I don't want to be either. |
| 21:25 | cait | we didn't miss that, keep calm |
| 21:26 | and hello all | |
| 21:26 | jcamins | :) |
| 21:26 | cait | @wunder leipzig |
| 21:26 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Willi-Bredel-Strabe DE, Leipzig, Germany is -5.0°C (10:03 PM CET on March 11, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:26 | cait | it feels colder |
| 21:26 | drojf | hi cait, how is the slide business going? |
| 21:27 | rangi: heard anything from mozilla? | |
| 21:27 | rangi | nope not yet, how about you? |
| 21:28 | drojf | i asked a few days ago (they told us "next week" back then) and he only knew "maybe end of march". but that seems to be a guess just like before |
| 21:29 | geeksphone never said anything :/ | |
| 21:29 | rangi | yeah i think they are waiting on the hardware dudes |
| 21:29 | drojf | oh yes, they said "thabk you for patient, subscribe toe newsletter" :D |
| 21:29 | rangi | heh |
| 21:29 | jcamins | Trying to get a Firefox OS phone? |
| 21:29 | drojf | "thank". it wasn't that bad :D |
| 21:30 | jcamins: kind of | |
| 21:32 | they probably just want me to do all stuff and sign up for my thesis so i don't procrastinate even more | |
| 21:33 | rangi | heh |
| 21:43 | jlozano | ok, guys, #1 thanks for your help so far. #2 If I'm importing records from Sirsi which had a 999 field with item info, and I changed the field to a 952 field, and the records actually import fine! How do I get the items as well to carry over? |
| 21:43 | jcamins | jlozano: you'll need to convert all the data out of Sirsi's format into Koha. |
| 21:43 | @marc 952 | |
| 21:43 | wahanui | The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
| 21:43 | huginn | jcamins: unknown tag 952 |
| 21:44 | jcamins | ^^ wahanui's link should help. |
| 21:45 | drojf | migration toolbox? |
| 21:45 | wahanui | i think migration toolbox is https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ |
| 21:45 | jlozano | omg. it's gonna be a long ight :( |
| 21:45 | *night | |
| 21:45 | jcamins | jlozano: you weren't planning on doing it first try, were you? |
| 21:46 | jlozano | ha jcamins funny you should mention that :) |
| 21:46 | jcamins | jlozano: generally it's a good idea to do at *least* one test load. |
| 21:47 | jlozano | Getting the server up and running was soo eazy. almost deceiving. |
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| 21:47 | jlozano | yeah. I have been trying to import about 1100 DVDs from Sirsi Marc output files all day. |
| 21:48 | drojf | dynix classic item analyzer: # EXPECTS: -nothing # DOES: -nothing |
| 21:48 | sounds great :D | |
| 21:48 | sirsi is dynix, right? i don't know all your crazy library systems | |
| 21:49 | jlozano | yeah, sorry it' snow Sirsi Dynix. |
| 21:49 | drojf | maybe dynix classic is something else? |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | it is |
| 21:50 | drojf | ok |
| 21:50 | jcamins | Yeah, Dynix is something else entirely. |
| 21:50 | drojf | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]ix_in_library.jpg |
| 21:53 | jlozano | I'ts SirsiDynix Symphony |
| 21:53 | gmcharlt | drojf: that brings back memories |
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| 21:56 | rangi | heh |
| 21:56 | jlozano | well, thanks for the info! I'll just have to bury my head it in it tomorrow, quittin' time round' these parts. |
| 21:57 | eythian | hi |
| 22:11 | https://twitter.com/shit_hn_sa[…]77270150842040320 <-- this explains everything! | |
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| 22:25 | maximep | most of the checkout by hour code was done by libsysguy, right ? |
| 22:26 | rangi | a lot of it yep |
| 22:26 | colin campbell did a chunk too | |
| 22:27 | maximep | ok. I have to estimate how long it would take to get back a feature we lost by updating to that code |
| 22:27 | checkout by minutes :p | |
| 22:28 | rangi | adding in minute checkouts would be good |
| 22:28 | * dcook | agrees |
| 22:28 | dcook | Handy for all sorts of loans |
| 22:29 | maximep | the first problem I see is that id have to change the circulation rules page |
| 22:29 | rangi | to have 3 choices, hour, days or minutes |
| 22:29 | ? | |
| 22:29 | maximep | well, that way it couldnt be 1h30 |
| 22:29 | rangi | 90 minutes |
| 22:29 | maximep | well |
| 22:30 | good point :p | |
| 22:30 | rangi | :) |
| 22:30 | you could almost do it with minutes and days | |
| 22:30 | maximep | so hard to estimate task like these :/ |
| 22:31 | could take a few days, could take weeks :/ | |
| 22:31 | anyway, thanks for the help | |
| 22:31 | I will ask again tomorrow, hoping one of the author of the code can help | |
| 22:33 | rangi | or email koha-devel? |
| 22:34 | jcamins | But... you can check out things in an arbitrary number of minutes. |
| 22:34 | maximep | yeah |
| 22:34 | jcamins | maximep: libsysguy is no longer around, and Colin is rarely on IRC. |
| 22:34 | maximep | ok |
| 22:35 | jcamins | It seems to me the only difficulty would be the circulation and fine rules. |
| 22:35 | maximep | wow, just saw this bug 5038. Feature request we opened in 2010 |
| 22:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5038 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Checkout by hour |
| 22:35 | maximep | time to close it |
| 22:37 | what do you mean jcamins by "you can check out things in an arbitrary number of minutes" | |
| 22:37 | ? | |
| 22:37 | jcamins | maximep: you can set the due date to 87 minutes from now, if you want. |
| 22:38 | * jcamins | goes to eat dinner. |
| 22:38 | maximep | can you ? |
| 22:38 | well | |
| 22:38 | gtg too | |
| 22:38 | cya | |
| 22:38 | jcamins | You just can't set a rule. |
| 22:38 | Bye. | |
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| 22:42 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9293' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]714e37bb8c276bd77> / Bug 9293 - action_logs not tracking payments <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]30f0233569b0dbddd> / Merge branch 'bug_9207' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dcc75ed3fa19f1d8a |
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| 22:49 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1072 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1066 9 days 4 hr ago) |
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| 23:56 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1072: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1072/ |
| 23:56 | * MJ Ray: Bug 9734 - String::Random is marked as optional, but C4::Members requires it | |
| 23:56 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 9555: Another template contains single quotes in a js string | |
| 23:56 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9377 - itemtype in duplicate biblio search | |
| 23:56 | * Liz Rea: Bug 8054 - double clicking can cause duplicate payments/fines | |
| 23:56 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9431 [Revised] Use DataTables on Patron Category Administration page | |
| 23:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9734 normal, P2, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , String::Random is marked as optional, but C4::Members requires it |
| 23:56 | jenkins_koha | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Merge branch 'bug_9446' into 3.12-master" |
| 23:56 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9207 - Improve z39.50 speed slowdowns for sites with many records | |
| 23:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9555 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Template files contain single quote strings |
| 23:56 | jenkins_koha | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9207: Increment version number |
| 23:56 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9293 - action_logs not tracking payments | |
| 23:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9377 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , itemtype in duplicate biblio search |
| 23:56 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8054 normal, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Master , can hit submit twice when paying fines | |
| 23:56 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9431 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on Patron Category Administration page | |
| 23:56 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9207 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Improve z39.50 speed slowdowns for sites with many records | |
| 23:56 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9293 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , action_logs not tracking payments | |
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