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| 00:52 | drojf | lousy channel not active at crazy weekend times :P | 
| 01:25 | talljoy | gmcharlt: you in? | 
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| 03:39 | wajasu | build box, installed debian squeeze, koha-common, library instance, circ rules, back-dated a checked book to myself. setup postfix. generated overdues (saw in message_queue). | 
| 03:41 | ran process_queue script, but failed to send. do i need to run as root, or koha-<instance> user, or maybe i'm missing a sendmail piece. well, tomorrow then. | |
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| 03:52 | jcamins | wajasu: you should not be running process_messagequeue directly. | 
| 03:52 | The packages take care of that. | |
| 03:52 | Read the man pages. I'm pretty sure they explain. | |
| 03:56 | wajasu | oh | 
| 03:56 | its hard to change after all these years. i'll read the man pages. | |
| 03:58 | i'm just glad i finally got them migrated to 3.10 from 3.0 | |
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| 08:15 | cait | @wunder reutlingen | 
| 08:15 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is -3.7°C (9:14 AM CET on February 24, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). | 
| 09:46 | magnuse | @wunder boo | 
| 09:46 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (10:20 AM CET on February 24, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). | 
| 09:47 | magnuse | w00t!!1! | 
| 09:47 | cait | hey magnuse | 
| 09:47 | mean weather :) | |
| 09:51 | magnuse | nah, i like it ;-) | 
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| 10:02 | cait | moin drojf | 
| 10:02 | drojf | hi cait | 
| 10:03 | cait | and off... bbl | 
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| 13:27 | jcamins | drojf: how did the workshop go? | 
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| 14:47 | tcohen | hi #koha | 
| 14:51 | jcamins | Hello. | 
| 14:51 | I just learned how to give Chrome a seizure! | |
| 14:51 | Run the following query in MySQL, then load the record editor: update marc_subfield_structure set hidden=0 where marc_subfield_struct | |
| 14:51 | ure.tagfield < 900; | |
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| 15:27 | jcamins | @later tell cait When you get a chance, could you please QA bug 9555 first? | 
| 15:27 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. | 
| 15:27 | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9587' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a9f472b06d8124606> / Bug 9587: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9553b4afe444dbbf7> / Bug 9587 : Handling mismatched emails better <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f8981489577762cb4 | |
| 15:30 | jcamins | @later tell cait Sorry, wrong bug (though 9555 needs QA too)... could you please QA bug *9431* first, when you're doing QA? | 
| 15:30 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. | 
| 15:37 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1060 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) | 
| 15:37 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8942' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0b82c00b182a292da> / Bug 8942 : Adding a test to make sure we don't use single quotes for js <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]be2a895709eaff123> | 
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| 16:09 | drojf | jcamins: it was good. lan did actually work, wifi didn't so they all had to use the stationary computers there instead of their notebooks. which lead to a much faster installation success, without all the different problems we had the last time. a smaller group this time and a lot more time to look at the system. i think at least two libraries are very likely to use koha in the future | 
| 16:09 | jcamins | Awesome! | 
| 16:09 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, jcamins | 
| 16:15 | drojf | is there an actual awesome-counter? there definitely should be | 
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| 16:45 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1060: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1060/ | 
| 16:45 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9363: Show Patent control information and report number (MARC21, XSLT, detail pages) | |
| 16:45 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9356: Follow-up - fix capitalization in MARC21 XSLT detail pages | |
| 16:45 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9356: Show Dissertation note (MARC21 502) in XSLT | |
| 16:45 | * Liz Rea: Bug 8682 - Renewals do not appear on quick slips | |
| 16:45 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 9587 : Mozilla Persona login | |
| 16:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9363 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Show Patent control information and report number (MARC21, XSLT, detail pages) | 
| 16:45 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 9587 : Follow up, fixing tabs in C4/Auth.pm | 
| 16:45 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 9587 : Followup removing a commented out warn that was annoying the qa tools | |
| 16:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9356 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Show Dissertation note (MARC21 502) in XSLT | 
| 16:45 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 9587 Follow up to fix the problem Katrin identified | 
| 16:45 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9587 : QA follow up - fix one tabulation character | |
| 16:45 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 9587 : Handling mismatched emails better | |
| 16:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8682 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , quick slip: renewals do not appear on quick slips | 
| 16:45 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9587 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Allow login via mozilla persona - https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/persona/ | |
| 16:45 | jenkins_koha | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9587: Increment version number | 
| 16:45 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 8942 : Adding a test to make sure we don't use single quotes for js | |
| 16:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8942 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Translation process breaks javascript in calendar.inc | 
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| 17:46 | rangi | !jenkins build koha_master now | 
| 17:46 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now | 
| 17:46 | cait | hi all | 
| 17:47 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1061 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1059 3 days 21 hr ago) | 
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| 17:59 | * cait1 | wave | 
| 17:59 | cait1 | s | 
| 18:21 | jcamins | Hello. | 
| 18:22 | cait1 | hellp | 
| 18:22 | hello | |
| 18:22 | wahanui | bonjour, cait1 | 
| 18:33 | drojf | hi cait | 
| 18:34 | cait1 | hi drojf:) | 
| 18:39 | jcamins | There goes any chance of me responding to that question. | 
| 18:42 | drojf | ? | 
| 18:42 | ah, that | |
| 18:42 | wahanui | ah, that is just to say that everything should be on one line | 
| 18:43 | drojf | s/he waited 2.5 hours! :P | 
| 18:50 | cait1 | hm? | 
| 18:54 | bug 9431 | |
| 18:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9431 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Use DataTables on Patron Category Administration page | 
| 18:54 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! | 
| 18:54 | Project Koha_master build #1061: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1061/ | |
| 18:55 | Starting build #70 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 19:37 | Project Koha_3.10.x build #70: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/70/ | |
| 19:37 | Chris Cormack: Fixing a mistake in the updatedatabase stanza | |
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| 19:57 | drojf | btw i still wonder about the question from last night: can i make koha acquisition send an email to my vendor 8and if so, where/how), or is there only the print option? | 
| 19:58 | jcamins | Only a print option at present, so far as I know. | 
| 19:58 | drojf | ok, then i wasn't just blind, that is good too :) | 
| 19:59 | magnuse | bug 2443 and bug 7736 might be relevant? | 
| 19:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2443 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, NEW , Acquisitions by EDIFACT | 
| 19:59 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7736 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mark.gavillet, Failed QA , Edifact QUOTE and ORDER functionality | |
| 20:01 | * magnuse | wishes #koha a good time of the day | 
| 20:01 | drojf | hi magnuse | 
| 20:01 | thanks, i'll have a look | |
| 20:01 | it's kind of strange to have a webbased system not send order emails :P | |
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| 20:02 | jcamins | A bit, yes. | 
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| 20:06 | drojf | ok, i don't see myself learning about that edifact stuff now :) an option to click "send email" when you have specified an address of the vendor would be a start too… | 
| 20:10 | (not going to work on that either, but that was a function that seemed natural for one of the libraries last night) | |
| 20:25 | * wizzyrea | waves | 
| 20:28 | drojf | hi wizzyrea | 
| 20:32 | * cait1 | waves too | 
| 21:02 | eythian | hi | 
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| 21:03 | eythian | jcamins: no real reason not to do that I suppose. I would like to fix it, but time doesn't really permit. I need a minion who can learn about packaging :) | 
| 21:04 | jcamins | What's the question? | 
| 21:04 | wahanui | the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" | 
| 21:04 | eythian | I'm going to build the latest packages this morning, as part of that I might drop the koha package out. | 
| 21:04 | jcamins | Oh! | 
| 21:04 | Right. | |
| 21:04 | The koha package. | |
| 21:04 | eythian | > Sent 3 days, 8 hours, and 30 minutes ago: <jcamins> Is there a reason not to just remove the koha package, since fixing it would take more time than we have? | 
| 21:04 | * jcamins | catches up to himself. | 
| 21:04 | eythian | yeah | 
| 21:04 | * drojf | remembered | 
| 21:04 | drojf | because i had a library install it | 
| 21:04 | * eythian | was sick all last week, so didn't see it until now. | 
| 21:05 | cait1 | eythian: hope you are feeling better | 
| 21:05 | eythian | cait1: about 80-90% well now. | 
| 21:05 | cait1 | hm not a perfect score | 
| 21:07 | eythian | no, the last bits of it will take a while to clear I suspect. | 
| 21:09 | cait1 | hope not too long | 
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| 21:57 | cait1 | bug 9555 | 
| 21:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9555 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Template files contain single quote strings | 
| 21:58 | cait1 | bug 9431 | 
| 21:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9431 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Use DataTables on Patron Category Administration page | 
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| 22:25 | dcook | Ahhhh! | 
| 22:26 | cait1 | Aaaaha | 
| 22:26 | ? | |
| 22:26 | dcook | I just saw this on the Koha-Fr listserv : http://www.mydk-tomic.net/?q=node/31 | 
| 22:27 | Someone wrote a "plugin" to do an item-level search using PHP/jQuery | |
| 22:28 | eythian | a what? and why? there should be a law... | 
| 22:28 | dcook | Hehe | 
| 22:28 | I wonder if this is the sort of thing that khall had in mind with Bug 7804? | |
| 22:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7804 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Add Koha Plugin System | 
| 22:29 | dcook | Admittedly, I'm not sure I understand the whole purpose of that plugin mentioned above though...it seems like it replicates what could already be done with the SQL reports... | 
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| 22:30 | wizzyrea | giviing it a proper UI maybe? | 
| 22:30 | "proper" | |
| 22:30 | dcook | Could be. It would probably be more user-friendly for staff | 
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| 22:31 | dcook | I'm just wondering if the purpose of the Koha Plugin system is to encourage this sort of development? I find it intriguing | 
| 22:31 | eythian | I'm not sure | 
| 22:31 | dcook | salut, gaetan_B | 
| 22:31 | gaetan_B | hi there :) | 
| 22:32 | wizzyrea | yes, that's the idea | 
| 22:32 | behind the plugins | |
| 22:32 | dcook | I suppose the concept of plugins deter forks but still encourage individualisation? | 
| 22:32 | Neato! | |
| 22:32 | wizzyrea | have you ever used wordpress | 
| 22:32 | dcook | I have, but not in that way | 
| 22:32 | wizzyrea | it's infinitely extensible because of the plugins. | 
| 22:32 | maybe not infinitely | |
| 22:32 | but greatly | |
| 22:33 | same with drupal. | |
| 22:33 | dcook | Mhm. I've heard that as a strength of both systems | 
| 22:33 | Which makes sense | |
| 22:33 | eythian | It can become a mixed blessing | 
| 22:33 | wizzyrea | yep | 
| 22:33 | dcook | Yeah, I was thinking that a bit too | 
| 22:33 | eythian | especially if plugins aren't maintained | 
| 22:33 | jcamins | dcook: the plugin system in 7804 is far more limited than that. | 
| 22:33 | wizzyrea | to both making sense and it being a mixed blessing | 
| 22:33 | dcook | jcamins: oh? | 
| 22:34 | jcamins | dcook: it allows you to create a record, or a self-contained "tool." | 
| 22:34 | cait1 | and an ILS is a bit different from a cms... | 
| 22:35 | because of 123 | |
| 22:35 | wizzyrea | yea but plugins really help with 123 | 
| 22:35 | just snap on your thing to cope with your 123, away you go | |
| 22:35 | cait1 | we will se ehow it goes :) | 
| 22:35 | dcook | jcamins: I'm not sure that I follow | 
| 22:35 | Ack | |
| 22:36 | Didn't mean to hit enter.. | |
| 22:36 | * dcook | just saw the "reports" and "tools" type of plugins on the bug entry | 
| 22:36 | jcamins | Right. Basically what 7804 does is allows you to add a link on the reports page and/or tools page. | 
| 22:36 | dcook | Mmm | 
| 22:37 | Why does the patch seem so massive then? | |
| 22:38 | jcamins | I simplified a bit. | 
| 22:38 | It also allows you to upload plugins, and use them without needing to do sysadmin-y stuff. | |
| 22:38 | Other than enabling plugins. | |
| 22:39 | cait1 | I am a bit worrid about security stuff... | 
| 22:39 | jcamins | cait1: if it gets in, don't use it. | 
| 22:39 | cait1 | people will be happy about funcitonality, but might not be aware of possible problems | 
| 22:39 | eythian | I expect it'll need rejiggering to work with the packages, too | 
| 22:39 | for example, avoiding sharing plugins between instances. | |
| 22:40 | cait1 | jcamins: not sure what to make of your comment | 
| 22:40 | jcamins | eythian: actually, that'll be pretty painless. | 
| 22:40 | eythian | oh, good | 
| 22:40 | jcamins | cait1: if you aren't happy with the security implications, don't enable the feature. | 
| 22:40 | cait1 | yeah, but that's not what I meant. | 
| 22:40 | it' sok, I am going to sleep now anyway | |
| 22:41 | bye all | |
| 22:41 | cjh | night :) | 
| 22:41 | dcook | night, cait1 | 
| 22:41 | eythian | later cait | 
| 22:42 | wizzyrea | interesting that the news items don't show in the ccsr mobile view. | 
| 22:42 | that could be really powerful. | |
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| 23:12 | wizzyrea | jcamins about? | 
| 23:13 | jcamins | I am. | 
| 23:13 | wizzyrea | question fo ryou | 
| 23:14 | jcamins | Mostly. | 
| 23:14 | Yes? | |
| 23:14 | wizzyrea | bug 9382 - i'm sensitive to the issue here, I'd like to fix it | 
| 23:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9382 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Bold necessary permissions for staff client access. | 
| 23:14 | wizzyrea | since it's a db update - what is the best way? | 
| 23:14 | go back and patch the db update? | |
| 23:14 | jcamins | Yeah. | 
| 23:15 | And since it's the same database update, you can do it on that bug. | |
| 23:15 | wizzyrea | ok cool | 
| 23:15 | didn't know if I needed to make an update that would fix already updated db's | |
| 23:15 | but if you're running from master you're in pain anyway so... | |
| 23:15 | jcamins | I don't see how to do that. | 
| 23:15 | (fix already-updated ones) | |
| 23:16 | wizzyrea | well true. | 
| 23:16 | it would have already nuked out translated strings. | |
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| 23:16 | wizzyrea | anyway ok I will fix that. | 
| 23:16 | thanks :) | |
| 23:16 | jcamins | Thank you. :) | 
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