IRC log for #koha, 2013-02-24

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00:52 drojf lousy channel not active at crazy weekend times :P
01:25 talljoy gmcharlt: you in?
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03:39 wajasu build box, installed debian squeeze, koha-common, library instance, circ rules, back-dated a checked book to myself. setup postfix. generated overdues (saw in message_queue).
03:41 ran process_queue script, but failed to send.  do i need to run as root, or koha-<instance> user,  or maybe i'm missing a sendmail piece.  well, tomorrow then.
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03:52 jcamins wajasu: you should not be running process_messagequeue directly.
03:52 The packages take care of that.
03:52 Read the man pages. I'm pretty sure they explain.
03:56 wajasu oh
03:56 its hard to change after all these years.  i'll read the man pages.
03:58 i'm just glad i finally got them migrated to 3.10 from 3.0
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08:15 cait @wunder reutlingen
08:15 huginn cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is -3.7°C (9:14 AM CET on February 24, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
09:46 magnuse @wunder boo
09:46 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (10:20 AM CET on February 24, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
09:47 magnuse w00t!!1!
09:47 cait hey magnuse
09:47 mean weather :)
09:51 magnuse nah, i like it ;-)
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10:02 cait moin drojf
10:02 drojf hi cait
10:03 cait and off... bbl
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13:27 jcamins drojf: how did the workshop go?
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14:47 tcohen hi #koha
14:51 jcamins Hello.
14:51 I just learned how to give Chrome a seizure!
14:51 Run the following query in MySQL, then load the record editor: update marc_subfield_structure set hidden=0 where marc_subfield_struct
14:51 ure.tagfield < 900;
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15:27 jcamins @later tell cait When you get a chance, could you please QA bug 9555 first?
15:27 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
15:27 New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9587' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a9f472b06d8124606> / Bug 9587: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9553b4afe444dbbf7> / Bug 9587 : Handling mismatched emails better <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f8981489577762cb4
15:30 jcamins @later tell cait Sorry, wrong bug (though 9555 needs QA too)... could you please QA bug *9431* first, when you're doing QA?
15:30 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
15:37 jenkins_koha Starting build #1060 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
15:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8942' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0b82c00b182a292da> / Bug 8942 : Adding a test to make sure we don't use single quotes for js <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]be2a895709eaff123>
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16:09 drojf jcamins: it was good. lan did actually work, wifi didn't so they all had to use the stationary computers there instead of their notebooks. which lead to a much faster installation success, without all the different problems we had the last time. a smaller group this time and a lot more time to look at the system. i think at least two libraries are very likely to use koha in the future
16:09 jcamins Awesome!
16:09 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, jcamins
16:15 drojf is there an actual awesome-counter? there definitely should be
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16:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1060: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1060/
16:45 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9363: Show Patent control information and report number (MARC21, XSLT, detail pages)
16:45 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9356: Follow-up - fix capitalization in MARC21 XSLT detail pages
16:45 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9356: Show Dissertation note (MARC21 502) in XSLT
16:45 * Liz Rea: Bug 8682 - Renewals do not appear on quick slips
16:45 * Chris Cormack: Bug 9587 : Mozilla Persona login
16:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9363 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Show Patent control information and report number (MARC21, XSLT, detail pages)
16:45 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9587 : Follow up, fixing tabs in C4/Auth.pm
16:45 * Chris Cormack: Bug 9587 : Followup removing a commented out warn that was annoying the qa tools
16:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9356 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Show Dissertation note (MARC21 502) in XSLT
16:45 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9587 Follow up to fix the problem Katrin identified
16:45 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9587 : QA follow up - fix one tabulation character
16:45 * Chris Cormack: Bug 9587 : Handling mismatched emails better
16:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8682 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , quick slip: renewals do not appear on quick slips
16:45 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9587 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Allow login via mozilla persona - https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/persona/
16:45 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9587: Increment version number
16:45 * Chris Cormack: Bug 8942 : Adding a test to make sure we don't use single quotes for js
16:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8942 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Translation process breaks javascript in calendar.inc
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17:46 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now
17:46 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now
17:46 cait hi all
17:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #1061 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1059 3 days 21 hr ago)
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17:59 * cait1 wave
17:59 cait1 s
18:21 jcamins Hello.
18:22 cait1 hellp
18:22 hello
18:22 wahanui bonjour, cait1
18:33 drojf hi cait
18:34 cait1 hi drojf:)
18:39 jcamins There goes any chance of me responding to that question.
18:42 drojf ?
18:42 ah, that
18:42 wahanui ah, that is just to say that everything should be on one line
18:43 drojf s/he waited 2.5 hours! :P
18:50 cait1 hm?
18:54 bug 9431
18:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9431 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Use DataTables on Patron Category Administration page
18:54 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
18:54 Project Koha_master build #1061: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1061/
18:55 Starting build #70 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:37 Project Koha_3.10.x build #70: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/70/
19:37 Chris Cormack: Fixing a mistake in the updatedatabase stanza
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19:57 drojf btw i still wonder about the question from last night: can i make koha acquisition send an email to my vendor 8and if so, where/how), or is there only the print option?
19:58 jcamins Only a print option at present, so far as I know.
19:58 drojf ok, then i wasn't just blind, that is good too :)
19:59 magnuse bug 2443 and bug 7736 might be relevant?
19:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2443 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, NEW , Acquisitions by EDIFACT
19:59 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7736 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mark.gavillet, Failed QA , Edifact QUOTE and ORDER functionality
20:01 * magnuse wishes #koha a good time of the day
20:01 drojf hi magnuse
20:01 thanks, i'll have a look
20:01 it's kind of strange to have a webbased system not send order emails :P
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20:02 jcamins A bit, yes.
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20:06 drojf ok, i don't see myself learning about that edifact stuff now :) an option to click "send email" when you have specified an address of the vendor would be a start too…
20:10 (not going to work on that either, but that was a function that seemed natural for one of the libraries last night)
20:25 * wizzyrea waves
20:28 drojf hi wizzyrea
20:32 * cait1 waves too
21:02 eythian hi
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21:03 eythian jcamins: no real reason not to do that I suppose. I would like to fix it, but time doesn't really permit. I need a minion who can learn about packaging :)
21:04 jcamins What's the question?
21:04 wahanui the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
21:04 eythian I'm going to build the latest packages this morning, as part of that I might drop the koha package out.
21:04 jcamins Oh!
21:04 Right.
21:04 The koha package.
21:04 eythian > Sent 3 days, 8 hours, and 30 minutes ago: <jcamins> Is there a reason not to just remove the koha package, since fixing it would take more time than we have?
21:04 * jcamins catches up to himself.
21:04 eythian yeah
21:04 * drojf remembered
21:04 drojf because i had a library install it
21:04 * eythian was sick all last week, so didn't see it until now.
21:05 cait1 eythian: hope you are feeling better
21:05 eythian cait1: about 80-90% well now.
21:05 cait1 hm not a perfect score
21:07 eythian no, the last bits of it will take a while to clear I suspect.
21:09 cait1 hope not too long
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21:57 cait1 bug 9555
21:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9555 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Template files contain single quote strings
21:58 cait1 bug 9431
21:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9431 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Use DataTables on Patron Category Administration page
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22:25 dcook Ahhhh!
22:26 cait1 Aaaaha
22:26 ?
22:26 dcook I just saw this on the Koha-Fr listserv : http://www.mydk-tomic.net/?q=node/31
22:27 Someone wrote a "plugin" to do an item-level search using PHP/jQuery
22:28 eythian a what? and why? there should be a law...
22:28 dcook Hehe
22:28 I wonder if this is the sort of thing that khall had in mind with Bug 7804?
22:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7804 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Add Koha Plugin System
22:29 dcook Admittedly, I'm not sure I understand the whole purpose of that plugin mentioned above though...it seems like it replicates what could already be done with the SQL reports...
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22:30 wizzyrea giviing it a proper UI maybe?
22:30 "proper"
22:30 dcook Could be. It would probably be more user-friendly for staff
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22:31 dcook I'm just wondering if the purpose of the Koha Plugin system is to encourage this sort of development? I find it intriguing
22:31 eythian I'm not sure
22:31 dcook salut, gaetan_B
22:31 gaetan_B hi there :)
22:32 wizzyrea yes, that's the idea
22:32 behind the plugins
22:32 dcook I suppose the concept of plugins deter forks but still encourage individualisation?
22:32 Neato!
22:32 wizzyrea have you ever used wordpress
22:32 dcook I have, but not in that way
22:32 wizzyrea it's infinitely extensible because of the plugins.
22:32 maybe not infinitely
22:32 but greatly
22:33 same with drupal.
22:33 dcook Mhm. I've heard that as a strength of both systems
22:33 Which makes sense
22:33 eythian It can become a mixed blessing
22:33 wizzyrea yep
22:33 dcook Yeah, I was thinking that a bit too
22:33 eythian especially if plugins aren't maintained
22:33 jcamins dcook: the plugin system in 7804 is far more limited than that.
22:33 wizzyrea to both making sense and it being a mixed blessing
22:33 dcook jcamins: oh?
22:34 jcamins dcook: it allows you to create a record, or a self-contained "tool."
22:34 cait1 and an ILS is a bit different from a cms...
22:35 because of 123
22:35 wizzyrea yea but plugins really help with 123
22:35 just snap on your thing to cope with your 123, away you go
22:35 cait1 we will se ehow it goes :)
22:35 dcook jcamins: I'm not sure that I follow
22:35 Ack
22:36 Didn't mean to hit enter..
22:36 * dcook just saw the "reports" and "tools" type of plugins on the bug entry
22:36 jcamins Right. Basically what 7804 does is allows you to add a link on the reports page and/or tools page.
22:36 dcook Mmm
22:37 Why does the patch seem so massive then?
22:38 jcamins I simplified a bit.
22:38 It also allows you to upload plugins, and use them without needing to do sysadmin-y stuff.
22:38 Other than enabling plugins.
22:39 cait1 I am a bit worrid about security stuff...
22:39 jcamins cait1: if it gets in, don't use it.
22:39 cait1 people will be happy about funcitonality, but might not be aware of possible problems
22:39 eythian I expect it'll need rejiggering to work with the packages, too
22:39 for example, avoiding sharing plugins between instances.
22:40 cait1 jcamins: not sure what to make of your comment
22:40 jcamins eythian: actually, that'll be pretty painless.
22:40 eythian oh, good
22:40 jcamins cait1: if you aren't happy with the security implications, don't enable the feature.
22:40 cait1 yeah, but that's not what I meant.
22:40 it' sok, I am going to sleep now anyway
22:41 bye all
22:41 cjh night :)
22:41 dcook night, cait1
22:41 eythian later cait
22:42 wizzyrea interesting that the news items don't show in the ccsr mobile view.
22:42 that could be really powerful.
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23:12 wizzyrea jcamins about?
23:13 jcamins I am.
23:13 wizzyrea question fo ryou
23:14 jcamins Mostly.
23:14 Yes?
23:14 wizzyrea bug 9382 - i'm sensitive to the issue here, I'd like to fix it
23:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9382 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Bold necessary permissions for staff client access.
23:14 wizzyrea since it's a db update - what is the best way?
23:14 go back and patch the db update?
23:14 jcamins Yeah.
23:15 And since it's the same database update, you can do it on that bug.
23:15 wizzyrea ok cool
23:15 didn't know if I needed to make an update that would fix already updated db's
23:15 but if you're running from master you're in pain anyway so...
23:15 jcamins I don't see how to do that.
23:15 (fix already-updated ones)
23:16 wizzyrea well true.
23:16 it would have already nuked out translated strings.
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23:16 wizzyrea anyway ok I will fix that.
23:16 thanks :)
23:16 jcamins Thank you. :)
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