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| 00:58 | Irma left #koha | |
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| 02:01 | gmcharlt | wahanui: be wizzyrea | 
| 02:01 | wahanui | do you like my aspirational, irritatingly American, optimism? | 
| 02:33 | jcamins | lol | 
| 02:40 | wajasu | we | 
| 02:41 | * wajasu | migrates to packages on a cold winter's eve | 
| 02:46 | upgrading from Koha 3.01.00.145 to 3.11.00.001 | |
| 02:47 | wajasu | not really a good idea. i wonder if i can change the update to only go to an earlier version. like maybe 3.10 or 3.8.5 | 
| 02:49 | got to remove biblio items. then runa script to rebuild auths from biblios. then save the DB, and load it in the biblio packages 10.2 | |
| 03:20 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 03:21 | druthb | o/ | 
| 03:21 | bgkriegel | Hi druthb | 
| 03:21 | druthb | Hi, bgkriegel. :) | 
| 03:22 | bgkriegel | bad news, more "server error" messages on poolte :( | 
| 03:22 | druthb | So I understand. I'll be takin' a look at that this evening. | 
| 03:23 | bgkriegel | sorry :) | 
| 03:23 | druthb | not your fault! :) You translators are so awesome, and been so very patient with me! | 
| 03:23 | translators++ | |
| 03:24 | @karma translators | |
| 03:24 | huginn | druthb: Karma for "translators" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. | 
| 03:24 | bgkriegel | hehe:) | 
| 03:24 | druthb | that's too low! | 
| 03:31 | * druthb | is being a crafty nerd tonight. | 
| 03:34 | druthb | bgkriegel: Every report of trouble I've had has been on 3.12. Are you having problems on 3.8/10 also, or are those workin'. | 
| 03:35 | bag | hey druthb | 
| 03:35 | druthb | hi, bag! :) | 
| 03:35 | bag | @karma druthb | 
| 03:35 | huginn | bag: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 180 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 179. | 
| 03:35 | bag | @karma bag | 
| 03:35 | huginn | bag: Karma for "bag" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8. | 
| 03:35 | bag | :D | 
| 03:35 | @karma brendan | |
| 03:36 | huginn | bag: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28. | 
| 03:36 | bgkriegel | druthb: logged in, click on My account, Server error, An error has occurred. Thank you for your patience. | 
| 03:37 | druthb | ew | 
| 03:38 | bgkriegel | that's new :) | 
| 03:38 | normally is file permissions | |
| 03:38 | druthb | yes, it is. does that to me, too. | 
| 03:39 | bgkriegel | if I search for project, on 3.12 is permissions, "You do not have rights to access this translation project" | 
| 03:40 | druthb | Okay...now *that*, I think I know the problem. | 
| 03:40 | bgkriegel | Got it: "Error accessing None, Filesystem sent error: No space left on device" | 
| 03:41 | you must ask for more space | |
| 03:41 | druthb | sure enough! | 
| 03:41 | bgkriegel++ | |
| 03:41 | (or move some crap somewhere else! | |
| 03:42 | bgkriegel | yeah | 
| 03:42 | druthb | okay...gonna take it down for a few. | 
| 03:43 | we've got a second partition, I'm gonna shift Pootle onto that; that's where the mysql DB already is. | |
| 03:44 | bgkriegel | how much space use translation files? | 
| 03:45 | jcamins | A lot! | 
| 03:45 | druthb | yah, they're enormous. | 
| 03:47 | bgkriegel: all right...give things a try? | |
| 03:49 | bgkriegel | well, seems all ok | 
| 03:50 | (save for 3.12, don't have permissions on that project) :) | |
| 03:51 | think I never have, I sent you an email asking | |
| 03:51 | druthb | got it. Wonder if there's a fast way to *copy* permissions. | 
| 03:52 | bgkriegel | perhaps in the database | 
| 03:52 | some insert/update | |
| 03:52 | i'll look | |
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| 03:54 | * wizzyrea1 | waves | 
| 03:54 | druthb | hi, wizzyrea1! :) | 
| 03:54 | wizzyrea1 | sup | 
| 03:55 | * druthb | has her wiffle bat out, and is using it gently on the Pootle server | 
| 03:55 | wizzyrea | why be gentle | 
| 03:55 | * druthb | is a kind soul. | 
| 03:55 | wizzyrea | :) | 
| 04:02 | druthb | bgkriegel: You *should* have 3.12 permissions now. Check? | 
| 04:03 | bgkriegel | not yet :) | 
| 04:03 | :( | |
| 04:03 | * druthb | grumbles. | 
| 04:04 | druthb | You have permission for everything at the "Spanish" level..and I *see* it on Spanish/3.12, but... | 
| 04:05 | ah-hah. now try? | |
| 04:05 | bgkriegel | yep | 
| 04:05 | :) | |
| 04:06 | druthb | wahoo! | 
| 04:06 | * druthb | dances the funky chicken. | 
| 04:07 | bgkriegel | not so fast! :) | 
| 04:07 | * druthb | puts a mini-project on her list: Audit all the permission sets on Pootle, make sure they're like they should be. It's *messy* | 
| 04:07 | druthb | eh? | 
| 04:07 | bgkriegel | can see, but not same permissions. | 
| 04:07 | on 3.10 OverviewNewsTranslateReviewPermissionsFiles | |
| 04:07 | on 3.12 OverviewNewsTranslateReview | |
| 04:08 | * druthb | scritches her head. | 
| 04:08 | druthb | Hm. Try now? Should be the same | 
| 04:08 | bgkriegel | Hurra! | 
| 04:09 | Yes :) | |
| 04:09 | druthb | Awesome. | 
| 04:09 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, druthb | 
| 04:10 | * druthb | puts INR40 in small coins in the jar. | 
| 04:10 | bgkriegel | but still don't show in my account. Enough for now | 
| 04:11 | druthb | "Settings" from My Account let you manipulate that quick-links page. | 
| 04:11 | bgkriegel | right | 
| 04:12 | done | |
| 04:12 | druthb | :) | 
| 04:12 | * druthb | likes happy translators! | 
| 04:12 | druthb | translators++ | 
| 04:12 | bgkriegel | TM: not an easy job :) | 
| 04:13 | druthb | Nope. Lots of little frittery details to get right on this. Fortunately, it looks like Pootle will live in the same place for a while; that will help. | 
| 04:15 | bgkriegel | Yes. no need to move. But ask for more space :) | 
| 04:16 | druthb | Once I move the Pootle working directory, that solved the problem. The root partition is not-large, just need to set up some warnings to holler when logs get big. | 
| 04:16 | (and clean out the /tmp dir from time to time) | |
| 04:17 | bgkriegel | Great. Also, there are other things that can live in translate.k-c:manual, frameworks, xml's | 
| 04:17 | there are many things to translate | |
| 04:18 | druthb | yah. My goal has been to get *more stuff* under Pootle control, and also smooth out the backend parts... | 
| 04:18 | like, separating language files from the main repo, then letting Pootle commit to a git repo on its' own from time to time. | |
| 04:19 | bgkriegel | yeah, read about that | 
| 04:20 | druthb | I'd also like to patch the Koha translation bits so you don't need those screwy file names! | 
| 04:20 | bgkriegel | hehe | 
| 04:21 | druthb | as much as jcamins would probably *love* for me to get that done for 3.12, I don't think that most of that will happen. *maybe*, though. | 
| 04:23 | bgkriegel | when 3.12 comes? | 
| 04:23 | druthb | In April. Things are a little bit wild for me right now; I'll be moving in a couple of weeks. But maybe I can squeeze in some time to get some of that accomplished. | 
| 04:24 | bgkriegel | too close | 
| 04:25 | druthb | Probably. With the feature freeze, he may not let me do that sort of massaging. | 
| 04:25 | bgkriegel | yes, probably not | 
| 04:28 | druthb | I could try batting my eyes at him, and tempting him with more of my salsa. | 
| 04:28 | bgkriegel | lol | 
| 04:29 | it could work, he's talking much about food lately :) | |
| 04:30 | druthb | I am not much to look at, but my cooking is *amazing* | 
| 04:33 | bgkriegel | very good for you, and for those who enjoy it :) | 
| 04:33 | druthb | :) | 
| 04:33 | * druthb | may have to ship some internationally, to a few favorite translators. Or bring it to KohaCon. | 
| 04:34 | bgkriegel | could have a special session :) | 
| 04:35 | druthb | I am planning to present/lead a discussion, about where the translation bits go from here, and priorities and such. | 
| 04:35 | jcamins | May. | 
| 04:35 | bgkriegel | yes, mey | 
| 04:35 | may | |
| 04:35 | druthb | May? Ooh. Then I might be able to sneak it in! | 
| 04:36 | jcamins | And, splitting the repo does not require any development, so that's not subject to the freeze. | 
| 04:36 | druthb | I may have to torque the /misc/translator/translate script a little, to adjust directories, etc. | 
| 04:38 | jcamins | Nah, step one involves putting all the po files in in a sub-module in the same place. Easy peasy. | 
| 04:38 | * jcamins | leaves to resume dish washing. | 
| 04:38 | jcamins | I successfully finished the brownie pie and cranberry coulis, and sliced 7 radishes. | 
| 04:39 | It resulted in many dishes. | |
| 04:45 | wizzyrea | ok now I'm hungry | 
| 04:45 | it's dinner time. | |
| 04:45 | also you people should go to bed. | |
| 04:45 | it's getting late. | |
| 04:46 | bgkriegel | yeah, 1:46 AM here | 
| 04:46 | druthb | 22:46. | 
| 04:49 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #69 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) | 
| 04:53 | bgkriegel | bye | 
| 05:29 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #69: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/69/ | 
| 05:29 | * D Ruth Bavousett: updated translations for 3.10.3 | |
| 05:29 | * Chris Cormack: Updating DB version for release | |
| 05:30 | Starting build #276 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 05:49 | mtj | does anyone know of a patch to move the module dir from under the prog theme dir, in the opac | 
| 05:50 | … i guess ultimately it has no reason/need to be where it is, and should be moved one dir up? | |
| 06:07 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #276: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/276/ | 
| 06:07 | * D Ruth Bavousett: Updated translations for 3.8.10 | |
| 06:07 | * Chris Cormack: 3.8.10 release notes | |
| 06:07 | * Chris Cormack: Updating DB version for 3.8.10 release | |
| 06:14 | wizzyrea | mtj I do not know of such a thing but i agree it probably should be done. | 
| 06:29 | i did a little work on ccsr - http://i.imgur.com/qNytA02.png | |
| 06:31 | (thing one etc is because I wanted to style those menus without being logged in.) | |
| 06:34 | mtj | wizzyrea++ lookin' good | 
| 06:34 | ah yep ^^ | |
| 06:35 | wizzyrea | there are some weird inconsistencies in ccsr that make me feel a bit twitchy | 
| 06:35 | mtj | yeah, i personally think the magical dissapearing left column is a pain, as well as a feature :/ | 
| 06:35 | ie: the left opac-nav area | |
| 06:39 | the ccsr theme is def. easier on the eyes | |
| 06:40 | the colors are less jarring, its more generally 'soothing' , i think... | |
| 06:40 | no…, i *feel* :) | |
| 06:41 | wizzyrea | i like it, I think. the mobile side is fine I think | 
| 06:41 | mtj | the calming greys of ccsr sooth my tired nerdy eyes | 
| 06:42 | wizzyrea | but it looks a little... it looks like a lot of other things. | 
| 06:42 | mtj | no no wiz… you *feel* | 
| 06:42 | wizzyrea | sorry I FEEL | 
| 06:42 | :) | |
| 06:43 | mtj | the genericness of the cssr theme is also a feaure too | 
| 06:45 | wizzyrea | well it doesn't have to be flashy. But not looking like every other thing is nice too. | 
| 06:46 | mtj | i have been meaning to have another whack at my koha-bootswatch thingy | 
| 06:47 | … now that the GPL3/bootstrap stuff has happened | |
| 06:47 | wizzyrea | bootstrap is what we're using in the intranet | 
| 06:47 | oh right bootswatch :D | |
| 06:47 | mtj | http://bootswatch.com/ | 
| 06:47 | wizzyrea | yes, you should do that. | 
| 06:48 | the colors in ccsr match those on bootswatch : | |
| 06:48 | :/ | |
| 06:49 | mtj | hey… grey is the new black - on teh interweb-2.0 | 
| 06:49 | wizzyrea | only 2.0? | 
| 06:50 | mtj | er.. no actually we are up to 4.12 here | 
| 06:50 | no, 5.12 even | |
| 06:52 | award-winning next gen. 5.12, for the enterprise | |
| 06:54 | see, once we add something like bootswatch to koha… we could then even start *removing* styling stuff from the koha templates | |
| 06:56 | that would be pretty satisfying | |
| 06:56 | wizzyrea | hehe yea | 
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| 08:15 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 08:16 | * Oak | waves | 
| 08:16 | Oak | hello cait. | 
| 08:17 | cait | hi Oak | 
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| 08:40 | drojf | good morning #koha | 
| 09:01 | rangi | bgkriegel++ #61 signoffs! | 
| 09:10 | Oak | bgkriegel++ | 
| 09:12 | cait | bgkriegel++ | 
| 10:09 | magnuse | bgkriegel++ | 
| 10:09 | * magnuse | waves | 
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| 10:11 | rangi | hehe sssh he must have heard!! | 
| 10:12 | @karma bgkriegel | |
| 10:12 | huginn | rangi: Karma for "bgkriegel" has been increased 22 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 22. | 
| 10:12 | bgkriegel | :) | 
| 10:12 | morning | |
| 10:14 | cait | morning bgkriegel :) | 
| 10:15 | bgkriegel | hi cait | 
| 10:15 | magnuse | hiya bgkriegel | 
| 10:15 | bgkriegel | hi magnuse | 
| 10:42 | rangi, you sorted tcohen as "Arazi", he'll be happy to top the list (release notes) | |
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| 11:07 | rangi | heh | 
| 11:54 | jcamins | Woohoo! | 
| 11:55 | drojf | Yay! | 
| 11:55 | what are we cheering for? | |
| 11:56 | jcamins | 3.10.3 and 3.8.10. | 
| 11:56 | I'm thinking about muffins. | |
| 11:56 | drojf | muffins \o/ | 
| 11:56 | ;) | |
| 11:56 | no, new koha is cool too :) | |
| 11:57 | some names got messed up again in the relese notes | |
| 11:57 | release even | |
| 11:58 | jcamins | Frédéric? | 
| 11:58 | drojf | Marc Véron | 
| 11:58 | jcamins | Yeah... I don't understand what's wrong. | 
| 11:59 | drojf | oh yes, frederic too, and Córdoba | 
| 11:59 | weird | |
| 12:00 | i wonder what we are going to install at the workshop. or, if anything at all. i hope that apt caching worked :/ | |
| 12:02 | jcamins | drojf: you should test it. | 
| 12:03 | drojf | luckily somebody else had to set that up. that and an improvised LAN. it is going to be rather experimental ;) | 
| 12:03 | magnuse | a little bit of testing sounds like a good idea :-) | 
| 12:04 | drojf | i suppose the server was set up before the new versions came out | 
| 12:08 | jcamins | drojf: tell them to re-seed it by running an "apt-get install koha-common" through it. | 
| 12:08 | After changing the settings to re-check the remotes, of course. | |
| 12:09 | rangi | utf8 weirdness in wordpress ill fix | 
| 12:09 | jcamins | rangi: yeah, but why is it _just_ release notes? | 
| 12:09 | drojf | jcamins: i think he chose an apt mirror. not sure, i send him the caching link too. we'll see. i wonder if i have enough disk space to set up the cache myself before i leave though | 
| 12:10 | jcamins | drojf: well, whatever he did, tell him to update it. :P | 
| 12:10 | drojf | :) | 
| 12:10 | rangi | cos the paste messed it up | 
| 12:10 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]169424ead03a13846 | |
| 12:10 | jcamins | rangi: okay, so not a flaw with my revised release notes script? | 
| 12:10 | rangi | nope if you switch that to utf8 in your browser its fine | 
| 12:11 | and is fine in git itself | |
| 12:11 | jcamins | Ohh, I see now. | 
| 12:11 | rangi | will fix the ones on the site | 
| 12:13 | http://koha-community.org/koha-3-10-3-released/ | |
| 12:13 | fixed | |
| 12:13 | jcamins | Thanks! | 
| 12:14 | rangi | and 3.8.10 fixed now too | 
| 12:14 | cant fix the emails unfortunately | |
| 12:14 | magnuse | rangi++ | 
| 12:15 | jcamins | Heh. Definitely not. | 
| 12:16 | magnuse | oh, come one, how many email systems would you have to break into? how hard can it be? | 
| 12:16 | ;-) | |
| 12:16 | rangi | heh | 
| 12:17 | drojf | nice html emails with iframes would do the trick | 
| 12:17 | * drojf | hides | 
| 12:17 | magnuse | lol | 
| 12:17 | rangi | heh | 
| 12:18 | magnuse | yeah, the world needs more iframes! | 
| 12:20 | jcamins | Actually, iframes are pretty cool... I had never realized that the only reason tinyMCE worked was because of an iframe. | 
| 12:21 | drojf | jcamins: does it cache only what i get via another computer or also what i install locally on the same machine? | 
| 12:23 | jcamins | Both. | 
| 12:23 | drojf | excellent | 
| 12:23 | jcamins | drojf: provided you tell the local machine about the cache. | 
| 12:24 | (likewise, you have to tell the remove machines about the cache) | |
| 12:27 | *remote | |
| 12:29 | drojf | thanks. looks like it is working, at least apt-get update does something. it does not find koha-community.rg, but that might be due to my typo ;) | 
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| 13:02 | drojf | test | 
| 13:02 | jcamins | Reason number one billion to dislike Facebook: they DOS my server at 10:55pm every other day. | 
| 13:02 | drojf | have you found out more about it? | 
| 13:03 | jcamins | No. | 
| 13:03 | I found out that I think on Monday I'm going to have to call and demand to talk to someone, because this is absurd. | |
| 13:06 | o.O | |
| 13:06 | I turned on the access logs. | |
| 13:06 | I am now reviewing them. | |
| 13:07 | I had assumed that what was going on was that at 10:55 a misbehaved spider started working. | |
| 13:07 | Not so much... | |
| 13:07 | drojf | but? | 
| 13:07 | jcamins | This misbehaved spider just goes into overdrive at 10:55. | 
| 13:08 | I have requests from these IP addresses about once per minute all day. | |
| 13:09 | Oh-ho! Take it back. | |
| 13:09 | There are two spiders. | |
| 13:09 | One is behaving. | |
| 13:09 | One is not. | |
| 13:09 | The misbehaving one is only at around 10:55. | |
| 13:09 | drojf | someone is interested in you ;) | 
| 13:09 | jcamins | The other one sends approximately one request per minute. | 
| 13:10 | drojf | does that count as behaving? | 
| 13:11 | jcamins | Yes. | 
| 13:38 | magnuse | weird! | 
| 13:38 | how long does the misbehaviour last? | |
| 13:39 | can you block it at the firewall? | |
| 13:39 | drojf | have you setup a spider trap by accident? | 
| 13:41 | jcamins | magnuse: about five minutes, until my server gives up. | 
| 13:41 | I'd prefer not to, because I don't want to break sharing things on Facebook. | |
| 13:42 | magnuse | jcamins: ah yes | 
| 13:42 | is it always from the same ip? | |
| 13:42 | ...just curious | |
| 13:43 | jcamins | There are about a dozen IPs. | 
| 13:43 | * magnuse | takes the dogs for a walk - will spend some more time trying to wrap up the digital signs afterwards | 
| 13:43 | jcamins | Woohoo! | 
| 13:43 | magnuse++ | |
| 13:48 | magnuse | ooh, thanks | 
| 13:48 | better be enthusiastic now, not sure you will be when (if) it reaches you after qa... ;-) | |
| 13:48 | preview here: http://kohawip.libriotech.no/c[…]koha/opac-sign.pl | |
| 13:49 | or maybe you were enthusiastic about the dogs getting a walk... | |
| 13:49 | drojf | lol | 
| 13:49 | jcamins | The signs. | 
| 13:49 | wahanui | the signs are hopeful | 
| 13:49 | magnuse | hehe | 
| 13:49 | thanks wahanui | |
| 13:52 | gotta object orient the code, i guess. wish i could DBICify it... | |
| 14:01 | drojf | off to the workshop /o/ | 
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| 15:00 | druthb | o/ | 
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| 15:23 | kata | looks like 3.10.3 is released. if i pull koha-common from stable, are those packages ready yet? ETA? | 
| 15:24 | jcamins | No, and probably Monday or Tuesday, I'd think. | 
| 15:24 | kata | ok | 
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| 15:50 | * testdrojf | waves | 
| 16:01 | * druthb | waves to testdrojf | 
| 16:02 | * jcamins | waves to both testdrojf and druthb while taking a break from crying over onions. | 
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| 16:19 | magnuse | jcamins: don't cry over onions, they're not worth it | 
| 16:25 | testdrojf | lol | 
| 16:25 | druthb | magnuse++ | 
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| 18:24 | kata | ok did packages install. used "-intra" as suffix. if library was my instance name, what URL should i use for the staff interface | 
| 18:41 | jcamins | library-intra.yourdomain.com | 
| 18:45 | The gnocchi is just about done, andd the sauce is done. | |
| 18:45 | *and | |
| 18:48 | And, of course, I finished the soup several hours ago. | |
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| 21:50 | testdrojf | somebody here? :) | 
| 21:51 | acquisition question: how do i actually send an order? can i do that internally by email or do i have to print it and fax? | |
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