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| 01:30 | dcook | Hmm, according to msaby (https://twitter.com/27point7/s[…]8004078347317248), Zebra supports left and right truncation for ICU? I find IndexData's "news update" to be somewhat indecipherable...(http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/NEWS) |
| 01:31 | jcamins | 2.0.53 |
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| 02:17 | eythian | rangi: is there no tag for v3.08.10? |
| 02:18 | rangi | i may have not pushed it, i certainly tagged it |
| 02:18 | my release script works with tags | |
| 02:18 | eythian | I can see the 3.10.03 one, so it might just not have been pushed |
| 02:18 | rangi | ahh there its |
| 02:19 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=summary | |
| 02:19 | i had pushed it, wonder why you arent seeing it? | |
| 02:19 | dcook | Yeah, I see it on my end |
| 02:19 | But I just fetched a few minutes ago | |
| 02:20 | eythian | I am doing a fetch with --tags, looks to be getting a whole lot more stuff. |
| 02:20 | rangi | last push was 8 hours ago |
| 02:20 | eythian | I think I remember something about that: it only gets tags that you have some local thing relating to them, or something along those lines |
| 02:20 | rangi | ahh yeah thats right |
| 02:20 | that's caught me before | |
| 02:20 | eythian | * [new tag] v3.08.10 -> v3.08.10 |
| 02:20 | thar she goes | |
| 02:21 | hmm, oddly that came via the catalyst repo only | |
| 02:21 | oh well, I have it now, that's the important but | |
| 02:21 | bit | |
| 02:22 | dcook | If one of you fine folk has a moment, could you take a quick look at Bug 9703 and let me know if it sounds like a reasonable idea? |
| 02:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Add optional parameter "as_string" to GetRecordValue subroutine |
| 02:23 | dcook | I can also summarize if the bug summaries are too verbose :p |
| 02:26 | eythian | just from reading the bug it doesn't seem like a bad thing. Note that an alternative would be to have a utility sub that does the conversion, but I would only do that if it gained you something else (e.g. being able to be used my other subs.) |
| 02:28 | dcook | Cool. When the idea first crossed my mind, I thought about doing a utility sub, but I wasn't sure if it would be useful elsewhere, so I figured it would be best to embed it in the existing sub. |
| 02:29 | Thanks for the input, eythian :). Very much appreciated. | |
| 02:29 | eythian | it could even be an internal utility sub, that way a) there's more modularisation, and b) it can be made public easily should that be useful. |
| 02:32 | dcook | I like your points, but what do you mean by an internal utility sub? Is that in reference to C4::Koha? |
| 02:33 | eythian | no, just something nearby that's not designed to be public, and the name starts with _ |
| 02:33 | it's just that splitting up subs is a good thing. | |
| 02:34 | (I haven't looked at your code btw, it might be you've done that) | |
| 02:35 | yeah, looking at it now, I would do that | |
| 02:35 | dcook | So something like |_koha_delete_biblioitems"? |
| 02:35 | And just locate it at the bottom of Biblio.pm? | |
| 02:35 | eythian | you have if ($as_string) three times, I'd post-process it in another sub if ($as_string) |
| 02:36 | I'd put it just below GetRecordValue, and call it something like _record_to_string, or similar | |
| 02:36 | dcook | Oooh, I like that |
| 02:36 | I was a bit worried about a utility sub being lost, but if I can just put it below.. | |
| 02:37 | Certainly seems more straight forward | |
| 02:38 | Sometimes I wonder how many useful subs are hidden away in the depths of Koha | |
| 02:40 | eythian | brazillions, I expect |
| 02:41 | wizzyrea | hey you leave brazlilans out of this. |
| 02:41 | brazilians | |
| 02:41 | :) | |
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| 02:51 | mtj | eythian, about? |
| 02:51 | eythian | mtj: yarp |
| 02:52 | mtj | shall i have a go at building this round of koha deb packages? |
| 02:53 | eythian | mtj: you can't at the moment, I haven't sorted out changing the signing keys. |
| 02:53 | (also, I'm actually right in the middle of it :) | |
| 02:53 | mtj | yep, i recall that |
| 02:53 | ah :) | |
| 02:53 | classic | |
| 02:55 | next time? | |
| 02:55 | wahanui | next time is in 87 years or something... ;-) |
| 02:55 | eythian | yeah, but that'll be in 87 years or so :) |
| 02:55 | mtj | i cant remember… is the 'changing the signing keys' step, tricky somehow? |
| 02:56 | eythian | actually doing it is easy, but it takes time to get people to update them. |
| 02:56 | Maybe I'll do that today. | |
| 02:56 | that way they can be ready for the next one. | |
| 02:57 | mtj | do i need to give you my ssh.pub key, too? |
| 02:57 | eythian | no |
| 02:57 | actually | |
| 02:57 | hmm | |
| 02:57 | you'll have to get access to debian.koha-community.org to deploy them | |
| 02:57 | Not sure who does that, possibly galen. | |
| 02:57 | mtj | thought i might, for push access to the kc.org box |
| 02:58 | yep, ok | |
| 02:58 | eythian | yeah, I don't think I can give you access to that |
| 02:58 | gmcharlt: you about? | |
| 02:58 | mtj | ill mail him :) |
| 02:59 | ok, all good | |
| 02:59 | hope you're feeling better, this week | |
| 02:59 | eythian | OK. Also, you'll want to add the catalyst repo to your git, as the packages differ very slightly from the canonical copy |
| 03:00 | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]3.10.03-packaging <-- for example | |
| 03:00 | this'll be a good chance to update the docs on this, too. | |
| 03:01 | mtj | cool, yep - i got it :) |
| 03:02 | im curious to learn the process myself | |
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| 03:38 | eythian | all new packages updated (3.8, 3.10, 3.11.) jcamins: I've removed the koha package from all of these. |
| 03:40 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 03:50 | dcook | "When the local variables are initialized, the @array variables grab all of the elements in the @_ array, leaving none for the scalar variable. This results in the uninitialized value message displayed in the output. You can fix this by merely reversing the order of parameters. If the scalar value comes first, then the function processes the parameters without a problem." |
| 03:50 | * dcook | twitches |
| 03:51 | eythian | it makes sense |
| 03:51 | jcamins | dcook: don't use arrays as arguments. |
| 03:52 | dcook | array refs instead, right? |
| 03:52 | eythian | yeah, perl lists don't nest, and arguments is a list |
| 03:52 | (for power users: perl arrays only nest when using arrayrefs) | |
| 03:52 | and lists/arrays can be used more or less interchangeably, but there's no such thing as a listref. | |
| 03:53 | dcook | O_o |
| 03:53 | eythian | dcook: I'd be inclined to re-evaluate what you're doing |
| 03:53 | well, at least a part of it | |
| 03:53 | dcook | Certainly part of it |
| 03:54 | eythian | there's often a more elegant way to approach things at that level. |
| 03:54 | dcook | The whole array of hashes thing gets me sometimes and how to de-reference or access the data |
| 03:54 | eythian | what are you trying to pass in? |
| 03:54 | dcook | That array from GetRecordValue |
| 03:55 | Well, array of hashes | |
| 03:55 | eythian | OK, and just that? |
| 03:55 | strictly, it's an array of hashrefs | |
| 03:55 | dcook | And a string |
| 03:55 | wahanui | well, a string is soft |
| 03:56 | eythian | ah right. The easy way is to put the string first. |
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| 03:56 | alohabot | Hi mib_ap8tl6, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 03:56 | eythian | the other way is to pass the array as an arrayref |
| 03:56 | dcook | Right, that took me a little while to figure out. Hence the pasted bit above |
| 03:56 | Wait.. | |
| 03:57 | mib_ap8tl6 | hi does anyone know the location of where i should place my custom images so that it would reflect in the web interface? |
| 03:57 | eythian | wahanui: wait is <reply>is Godot coming? |
| 03:57 | wahanui | bugger all, i dunno, eythian |
| 03:57 | dcook | I was thinking of passing the array as an arrayref (not that I'm 100% on what that means), but then the whole thing seems to fall apart |
| 03:57 | eythian | wahanui: wait is <reply>is Godot coming# |
| 03:57 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 03:57 | eythian | wahanui: wait =~ s/#/?/ |
| 03:57 | wahanui | OK, eythian |
| 03:57 | eythian | it would just be _my_sub(\@result, $the_string) |
| 03:57 | mib_ap8tl6 | anyone here knows about the opac?? |
| 03:58 | wizzyrea | mib_ap8tl6: you would have to add them using the tool - Tools -> upload local cover image |
| 03:58 | mib_ap8tl6 | thanks! |
| 03:58 | wizzyrea | assuming that's what you mean by "custom images" |
| 03:58 | jcamins | mib_ap8tl6: but only if you want to upload a local cover image. |
| 03:58 | And I am pretty sure that is not. | |
| 03:58 | wizzyrea | the first question? |
| 03:58 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 03:58 | jcamins | ^^ exactly |
| 03:58 | mib_ap8tl6 | i want to use our school's logo in part with the koha |
| 03:59 | jcamins | wizzyrea will take you through the four questions that help us help you, while I go to sleep. |
| 03:59 | Good night, #koha. | |
| 03:59 | * wizzyrea | will go pick up her kid, actually :/ |
| 03:59 | wizzyrea | the short answer is |
| 03:59 | anywhere you can link to, you can put your image | |
| 03:59 | mib_ap8tl6 | my goal? i want to customize the header image |
| 03:59 | eythian | dcook: then when you access it: my ($array, $string) = @_; |
| 04:00 | dcook: and $array->[4]; # get the 5th value | |
| 04:01 | dcook: and $array->[4]{subfield}; # get the 5th value's subfield entry | |
| 04:03 | dcook | eythian: That requires an explicit reference to subfield though, right? |
| 04:03 | eythian | I don't know what you mean there, but I suspect the answer is "no" |
| 04:03 | dcook | eythian: At the moment, I'm using a for loop to get each element of the array, then I'm trying to do a foreach on the keys of the hash |
| 04:04 | Well, in the case of $array->[4], you need to write 4 into your code | |
| 04:04 | To get that 5th value | |
| 04:04 | eythian | that was just an example |
| 04:04 | that can be a variable | |
| 04:04 | or you can use a foreach | |
| 04:04 | foreach my $val (@$array) | |
| 04:04 | dcook | I figure using loops makes the sub more re-useable overall |
| 04:05 | mib_ap8tl6 | solution wont work |
| 04:05 | dcook | Hmm, I think I missed the @ reference! |
| 04:05 | eythian | then inside that: foreach my $key (keys %$val) |
| 04:05 | dcook | Or dereference.. |
| 04:05 | eythian | if it helps, @$foo is the same as @{ $foo } |
| 04:05 | you're dereferencing it into it's "real" type | |
| 04:05 | dcook | Right |
| 04:06 | When I was passing the array rather than the array ref, I didn't use any dereferencing (obviously) | |
| 04:06 | But when I changed to the reference, I forgot to dereference *facepalm* | |
| 04:06 | eythian | ah right :) |
| 04:07 | dcook | And now the order that I pass my variables is irrelevant |
| 04:07 | eythian | yep |
| 04:07 | mib_ap8tl6 | i can't seem to change the appearance of the opac |
| 04:07 | dcook | Sweeet |
| 04:07 | eythian | most of the times I'm mixing types, I use references |
| 04:07 | mib_ap8tl6 | can't locate where the image file are |
| 04:07 | dcook | Mixing types? |
| 04:07 | eythian | strings, arrays, hashes, etc |
| 04:08 | dcook | Mmm, k. That's what I thought you were saying |
| 04:08 | I had never encountered references in a programming language before Perl. It certainly has taken some getting used to | |
| 04:09 | eythian | really? |
| 04:09 | C has them, Pascal has them, ... | |
| 04:09 | dcook | Well, Perl is the first "serious" language I've encountered |
| 04:09 | mib_ap8tl6 | where is the right location to put the images to be used for the changing of the appearance of the opac? |
| 04:09 | dcook | Maybe I shouldn't have said serious :P |
| 04:09 | eythian | most high level languages do |
| 04:09 | ah right | |
| 04:09 | dcook | Yeah? |
| 04:09 | I have a humanities/social science background. I grew up playing with computer game scripts and then PHP, but...you know. PHP. | |
| 04:09 | eythian | not all, but I think most imperative or OO ones do |
| 04:10 | I think PHP has them too, but they're probably more stupid | |
| 04:10 | dcook | Never ever noticed a mention of them *shrug* |
| 04:10 | I've only noticed scalars and arrays though | |
| 04:10 | The whole hash concept was new to me with Perl as well | |
| 04:11 | eythian | PHP definitely has them, and they are definitely stupid there. |
| 04:12 | http://search.cpan.org/~mschwe[…]0.0/lib/perl5i.pm <-- I wish we were using this | |
| 04:12 | It makes everything a fair bit smarter | |
| 04:12 | dcook | Whoa... |
| 04:12 | I'm liking that at a glance | |
| 04:13 | eythian | turns everything into an object, etc. |
| 04:13 | dcook | Yeah, I've only started getting into OOP, but I suppose I'm a bit surprised that we don't use more of it |
| 04:14 | Not that I completely understand it or "us" yet :p | |
| 04:14 | eythian | In old perl it's ugly, in new perl, there's many competing ways to go about it. |
| 04:15 | dcook | Mmm, certainly not the best environment then |
| 04:16 | eythian | though, pure-perl OO isn't too bad any more. |
| 04:16 | but it is hard to turn a non-OO app into an OO one | |
| 04:16 | lots of impedence mismatch | |
| 04:17 | dcook | Impedence mismatch being an impedence through having to get code in extra handling to link it up? |
| 04:18 | eythian | well, in part. It's more that they result in different designs of code. |
| 04:18 | you tend to think of things a bit differently | |
| 04:18 | and many things that we do would be quite ugly in an OO world | |
| 04:19 | like your thing would be totally different in OO | |
| 04:19 | you'd be creating a method on the record class that returned it as a string, rather than modifying the retreval sub. | |
| 04:20 | dcook | Mmm, I saw that somewhere in there |
| 04:21 | Yeah, the Marc record class definitely has a method like that already | |
| 04:21 | eythian | the newer stuff will, we're slowly transitioning to that |
| 04:21 | dcook | So the impedence mismatch is why you have the terms OO vs interpretive/procedural? |
| 04:22 | Well, not the cause but... | |
| 04:22 | eythian | well, they're different designs. |
| 04:22 | dcook | Yeah, that's what I was meaning |
| 04:22 | eythian | so the abstractions are different. |
| 04:22 | dcook | Is one better than the other, or just more useful in particular situations? |
| 04:22 | useful/appropriate* | |
| 04:23 | eythian | Depends. OO is quite nice in many ways, in general I prefer it to procedural. |
| 04:23 | Especially for larger things, it's more maintainable | |
| 04:23 | and generally better for writing test cases for | |
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| 04:24 | dcook | I've used it in a few instances, and am thinking about it for some other projects I have in mind |
| 04:24 | I think Chris once said that Koha was written in Perl because that's what folks knew | |
| 04:24 | I take it that it was also written as procedural rather than OO because of old perl being ugly in regards to OOP? | |
| 04:24 | eythian | Most likely, yeah |
| 04:25 | also, it was used much less back then | |
| 04:25 | (OO in perl that is) | |
| 04:25 | it may not have even been a thing, I'm not sure when it came about. | |
| 04:25 | actually, I started using it a few years later, and I think it was there then, so it probably was | |
| 04:27 | dcook | Hmm, interesting in any case. So you weren't one of the original developers? |
| 04:27 | Despite some mild attempts to remedy it, my Koha history knowledge isn't comprehensive | |
| 04:28 | eythian | oh no, I started on it just 2 or so years ago. |
| 04:28 | dcook | I suppose I really should read that code4lib article in its entirety.. |
| 04:28 | eythian | there's a fair bit of history :) |
| 04:28 | dcook | Oh wow |
| 04:28 | I only started about a year ago, so there you go ;) | |
| 04:28 | Hopefully things will become clearer in October | |
| 04:28 | eythian | April '10. So nearly three years |
| 04:29 | though I was part time on it for the first few months. | |
| 04:29 | dcook | Mmm, that's how I spent the end of 2012 |
| 04:29 | Had to go back to Canada to finish the MLIS | |
| 04:29 | A bit painful wanting to work on Koha full-time but having to sit through class instead | |
| 04:29 | eythian | heh |
| 04:30 | dcook | I've been promoting the conference quite a bit though, so maybe there will be a fair number of SLAIS folks in Reno |
| 04:31 | * dcook | should remember to send some emails to the faculty admin... |
| 04:31 | dcook | So you had been working in Perl before Koha? |
| 04:31 | eythian | everyone wants a junket :) |
| 04:31 | yeah, I used it when I was at uni | |
| 04:31 | for data processing and such | |
| 04:31 | dcook | That's how I had traditionally heard it being used as well |
| 04:32 | I had no idea that it was more widespread until I encountered Koha | |
| 04:32 | But then I met my current partner who mentioned Paul Fenwick and how he's a mover and shaker in Perl, which expanded my concept of Perl's impact quite a bit | |
| 04:32 | It's just not a language that you hear a lot about though. It seems like it's mostly Ruby, Python, and PHP that are trendy | |
| 04:33 | With Java being...well...omnipresent | |
| 04:33 | eythian | oh yeah, it's all over the place |
| 04:33 | it used to be known as the language that glues the internet together, that's probably still true to a degree. | |
| 04:35 | dcook | I remember seeing quite a few cgi-bins years ago. I assume those were all Perl scripts? |
| 04:35 | eythian | could be anything. You can write cgi-bin scripts in bash, or C if you want. |
| 04:35 | just something that's executable | |
| 04:35 | dcook | Hmm, I see |
| 04:36 | * dcook | sometimes wishes that he had done comp-sci or comp-sci/english rather than just english :p |
| 04:38 | eythian | heh |
| 04:38 | dcook | Or that library schools did more with programming |
| 04:38 | But having thought on that one for a while, I don't think it would be so easy to implement | |
| 04:38 | I suppose if it were, they would have done it by now | |
| 04:38 | eythian | I think anything that involves data should include an element of programming |
| 04:39 | dcook | Mmm, makes sense |
| 04:39 | eythian | you're not going to be as useful as you could be if you can collect and organise, but can't process freely. |
| 04:39 | dcook | Very true. I was in a cataloguing class once where we had to design a reclassification project, and most of the ideas required time-consuming hand-to-keyboard type tasks |
| 04:40 | My idea was to get the systems person/people to do a programmatic change and let the cataloguer focus on something greater than manual data manipulation :S | |
| 04:41 | Not to devalue the processing, but rather to take advantage of automation | |
| 04:41 | eythian | I used to work in a psychology department helping out with that kind of thing. The amount of times I caught people who had spent a day getting half way through a manual conversion, and I was able to do all of it for them in 30 minutes. |
| 04:43 | dcook | Exactly |
| 04:51 | cjh | Programming isn't yet mainstream, it's still a rather specialized task. I look forward to the day when this is no longer the case. |
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| 04:59 | druthb | o/ |
| 05:05 | dcook | Me too, cjh. Me too. |
| 05:05 | Although my first target are the librarians ;) | |
| 05:05 | targets* | |
| 05:06 | Actually, I think about that in terms of programming, open-source, and Koha in general. The more people doing it...the more we can achieve. | |
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| 05:07 | dcook | Rather than being "the specialists" hooarding the knowledge in the ivory tower, I rather everyone have a hand in |
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| 05:17 | dcook | guten morgen, cait :) |
| 05:18 | cait | hi dcook :) |
| 05:52 | dcook | night/morning, #koha. See you all tomorrow. |
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| 07:12 | mtj | hi all, any idea where the koha-3.8.6.deb file is? |
| 07:12 | http://debian.koha-community.o[…]pool/main/k/koha/ | |
| 07:12 | …its missing from there? :/ | |
| 07:19 | magnuse | heh no idea |
| 07:23 | eythian would know, perhaps... | |
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| 07:24 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:24 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (7:50 AM CET on February 25, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:24 | magnuse | @wunder konstanz |
| 07:24 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -6.0°C (8:00 AM CET on February 25, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:24 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:24 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 07:24 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -1.0°C (8:00 AM CET on February 25, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:24 | magnuse | moahahaha |
| 07:24 | bonjour alex_a | |
| 07:24 | freezing today? | |
| 07:25 | alex_a | yep |
| 07:25 | magnuse | any snow? |
| 07:26 | alex_a | no snow today. But a little yesterday at Aix en provence |
| 07:26 | magnuse | ah |
| 07:27 | * magnuse | hopes for some nice spring weather during the hackfest + easter... |
| 07:38 | * cait | waves good morning |
| 07:42 | magnuse | guten morgen cait! |
| 07:42 | cait: i beat you by 10 degrees! | |
| 07:42 | cait | pf |
| 07:43 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 07:43 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on February 25, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Falling). |
| 07:43 | magnuse | ooh nice |
| 07:44 | you win rangi :-) | |
| 07:44 | rangi | :) |
| 07:45 | * magnuse | will take a shot at bug 9256 on friday |
| 07:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 |
| 07:47 | cait | bbl |
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| 08:03 | asaurat | hi! |
| 08:06 | rangi | hi asaurat |
| 08:07 | alex_a | oh a tweetbot` :) |
| 08:07 | He speak french \o/ | |
| 08:08 | he speaks* | |
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| 08:21 | kf | good morning #koha |
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| 08:23 | rangi | hi kf |
| 08:24 | kf | hi rangi |
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| 08:34 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 08:36 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 08:36 | drojf | hei magnuse |
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| 08:50 | rangi | hmm i was gonna test bug 8252 |
| 08:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8252 critical, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Needs Signoff , Error in DOM biblio for UNIMARC (no range for fields 1xx) |
| 08:50 | rangi | but ill defer to someone who understands it :) |
| 08:57 | kf | rangi: maybe ask for a test plan if it's not clear? |
| 08:58 | rangi | there is a test plan |
| 08:58 | its just unimarc | |
| 08:59 | kf | ah |
| 08:59 | right | |
| 08:59 | drojf++ | |
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| 09:27 | Herwig | Hey all ... question .. is there a way to make a list of patrons + barcodes of the works they have |
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| 09:41 | kf | Herwig: you could do it with reports |
| 09:42 | maybe take a look at the reports library, if there is something like that already? | |
| 09:42 | reports library? | |
| 09:42 | wahanui | reports library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 10:04 | Herwig | test |
| 10:06 | gonna have a look at it did not see the patron/barcode combination but maybe i can make one myself (maybe) :) | |
| 10:10 | kf | we can help you a bit :) |
| 10:10 | I think you will need borrowers and issues tables | |
| 10:19 | Herwig | http://mibpaste.com/92mG37 this one is a good start only i get an error |
| 10:19 | got him on the wicky | |
| 10:19 | kf | hm yes |
| 10:19 | that makes not so much sense | |
| 10:19 | issues is a table - not a colum :) | |
| 10:19 | let me try | |
| 10:20 | what infrmation do you need? | |
| 10:22 | Herwig | patron name and firstname - barcodes off all the works they have |
| 10:22 | kf | ok |
| 10:24 | maybe like that? http://paste.koha-community.org/399 | |
| 10:24 | it's normally easier to start simpler and add more information as needed | |
| 10:24 | Herwig | sec i try |
| 10:27 | applaus for kf | |
| 10:27 | kf ++++ | |
| 10:27 | :) | |
| 10:28 | kf | :) |
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| 11:03 | samuel | hi everybody, we have a problem when we create a biblio record: the date of the creation of this record is not added. We use 099$a for this information , which is linked to biblio.datecreated. |
| 11:04 | kf | hm is this a standard unimarc field? |
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| 11:11 | samuel | my colleague want use this field but i have the same question |
| 11:15 | oups, it's 099$c for the date of the creation. | |
| 11:17 | When I create a record, the columns biblio.datecreated and biblio.timestamp of the database are not copied in the subfield 099$c and 099$d of the MARC record | |
| 11:24 | kf | hm I am not sure if you can make it work this way |
| 11:25 | I think the fields might be handled by the database and not manually, but not sure | |
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| 12:43 | tcohen | moooorning #koha |
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| 12:44 | christophe_c | hello |
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| 12:45 | tcohen | hi christophe_c |
| 12:46 | christophe_c | hi tcohen |
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| 13:13 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 13:13 | bgkriegel | Hello |
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| 13:19 | samuel | hi, i come back with my problem of biblio.datecreated and biblio.timestamp (099$c 099$d) are well created in the database but not displayed in the marc record. I think it's a question of xsl but, in this case, which file can i modify? |
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| 13:43 | tcohen | hi bgkriegel |
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| 13:51 | bgkriegel | hola tcohen |
| 14:03 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #28 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: STILL FAILING) |
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| 14:04 | Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #28: STILL FAILING in 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Docs_3.10.x/28/ | |
| 14:04 | * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo | |
| 14:04 | * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo | |
| 14:04 | Project Koha_Docs build #298: STILL FAILING in 16 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/298/ | |
| 14:04 | * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo | |
| 14:04 | * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo | |
| 14:17 | magnuse | nengard++ for fixing typos |
| 14:30 | * kf | hmpfs |
| 14:31 | thinks she found a bug in 3.6.10 that prevents all emails from being sent out when a printed overdue notice is in the queue (for patrons without emails) | |
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| 15:05 | oleonard | Anyone else not having any luck with Persona logins? |
| 15:07 | I can log in to Persona, and my email address matches, but I can't log in to the OPAC | |
| 15:07 | jcamins | oleonard: It works for me. |
| 15:08 | I had to allow cross-site cookies for persona.org, though. | |
| 15:08 | oleonard | I guess it would have had to :) |
| 15:08 | Oh I'll bet that's it | |
| 15:09 | You had to explicitly allow cross-site cookies? How did you do that juts for persona? | |
| 15:11 | jcamins | They're generally enabled by default. |
| 15:11 | I had previously disabled them. | |
| 15:11 | I whitelisted the domain. | |
| 15:12 | In Chrome, under Privacy choose "Content settings..." and under "Manage exceptions" add "login.persona.org" | |
| 15:16 | kf | hmm |
| 15:19 | magnuse | i see a link called "Sign in with your Email" in the opac, but it does not seem to do anything? |
| 15:20 | ah, maybe because i tried with the ccsr theme... | |
| 15:21 | oleonard | I wonder if it doesn't work with "localhost" addresses? |
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| 15:21 | jcamins | oleonard: oh, of course not. |
| 15:21 | You'd have to have your own persona authentication server. | |
| 15:21 | magnuse | bug 9704 |
| 15:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9704 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Add persona login to the CCSR theme |
| 15:23 | oleonard | Okay, works if I use a domain name rather than localhost |
| 15:25 | kf | oleonard: hm worked for me with localhost too |
| 15:25 | maybe one of the recent changes? | |
| 15:25 | jcamins | kf: Persona should not have let you authenticate with a localhost address. |
| 15:26 | Wait... e-mail address or URL? | |
| 15:26 | kf | you can#t have a localhost email address, because you have to confirm your registration I think? |
| 15:26 | jcamins | kf: exactly. |
| 15:26 | kf | my koha runs on localhost and I tested this successfully |
| 15:26 | jcamins | That's why I said it didn't work. |
| 15:26 | Ah. | |
| 15:27 | Okay, that worked for me. | |
| 15:27 | * oleonard | shrugs |
| 15:27 | jcamins | But your opacbaseurl has to match the URL you are using to access Koha. |
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| 15:29 | kf | grumps at http://git.koha-community.org/[…]22721b01e9b158b0a |
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| 15:30 | kf | this |
| 15:30 | breaks sending out emails :( | |
| 15:31 | when you have an overdue notice that has no borrowrnumber... which happens when you have a "print overdues for patrons without emails" notice | |
| 15:31 | that you can't deactivate btw... | |
| 15:31 | *sigh* | |
| 15:31 | jcamins | That patch went into Koha well over a year ago. |
| 15:34 | kf | hm so it is not that maybe after all |
| 15:34 | *sigh* | |
| 15:35 | maybe a side effect from some other change? | |
| 15:35 | * kf | goes to dig deeper |
| 15:36 | kf | and sorry poor patch for blaming you |
| 15:37 | drojf | look who's back |
| 15:38 | with a crosspost | |
| 15:39 | kf | jcamins: maybe overdues wasn't using this part of the code before? |
| 15:39 | jcamins | kf: it's possible. |
| 15:39 | kf | I will have to check, but it's the only notice this problemwould occur with |
| 15:46 | jcamins: the patch went in after 3.6.3.... | |
| 15:46 | which we updated from before it broke | |
| 15:47 | jcamins | That could be the patch. |
| 15:47 | kf | yeah, the one from marcel... but it would mean it's still broken... I have to make a test case on current master |
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| 15:48 | drojf | »In some cases, on email lists and forums, an individual is put under a Stealth Ban where their posts are distributed back to them as if they were being distributed normally, but the rest of the subscribers are not sent the messages. « |
| 15:48 | can we have this? :) | |
| 15:50 | jcamins | lol |
| 16:01 | drojf | https://isc.sans.edu/diary/SSH[…]in+the+wild/15229 |
| 16:01 | jcamins | drojf: have they figured out the attack vector yet? |
| 16:02 | drojf | i don't think so |
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| 16:05 | kf | ok, I am still not sure if that is the problem or not :( |
| 16:05 | drojf | jcamins: i read a german article and sent the english link, but there is no news i the english article either |
| 16:09 | maximep | trying to find out for a client what the "sort by relevance" does to sort results |
| 16:09 | is that explained in the manual ? | |
| 16:11 | rambutan | @seen gmcharlt |
| 16:11 | huginn | rambutan: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 2 days, 14 hours, 9 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> wahanui: be wizzyrea |
| 16:11 | gmcharlt | rambutan: pong? |
| 16:11 | tcohen | libsysguy: you're not allowed to leave koha :-P |
| 16:11 | jcamins | maximep: no it is not. |
| 16:11 | maximep: and, it doesn't really do anything. | |
| 16:12 | libsysguy | heh tcohen |
| 16:12 | * libsysguy | feels like he might be kidnapped |
| 16:12 | tcohen | heh |
| 16:12 | maximep | she's trying to understand why she's searching "Les filles" and the top result is "Les filles", but there's another "Les filles" at position 20 |
| 16:12 | it's just zebra doing magic ? | |
| 16:13 | tcohen | even if you manage to do it, you'll be back |
| 16:13 | it is called stockholm syndrome | |
| 16:13 | maximep | there's probably weird for certain fields, right ? |
| 16:13 | magnuse | search rewrite? |
| 16:13 | wahanui | search rewrite is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC |
| 16:14 | magnuse | i hav a feeling jcamins is going to say that ^ s what is needed to make relevance work ;-) |
| 16:14 | jcamins | maximep: basically the relevance ranking we have configured right now really doesn't do anything. |
| 16:14 | tcohen: lol | |
| 16:14 | maximep | :( |
| 16:20 | rambutan | gmcharlt; sending you a short doc on libpac |
| 16:20 | gmcharlt | rambutan: ok |
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| 16:41 | oleonard | Why do I keep getting logged out of the OPAC while testing lists? |
| 16:44 | kf | we found it... |
| 16:44 | local customization.... | |
| 16:44 | * kf | goes in a corner to sit there for a long while |
| 16:45 | kf | which meant the line numbers were not matching with the files I was looking at of course *sigh* |
| 16:45 | drojf | ouch |
| 16:45 | kf | *facepalm* |
| 17:01 | rambutan | I seem to remember another ILS that had a "bin_custom" for all local customizations. Made it easy to find hacks. |
| 17:01 | kf | rambutan: we have them in git... just doesn't help when you don't look there :) |
| 17:02 | ok, and now I leave before I can do something else stupid .) | |
| 17:02 | bye all | |
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| 17:17 | alohabot | Hi mib_izsy0x, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
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| 17:55 | drojf | i think people are afraid of the alohabot |
| 18:00 | maximep | haha |
| 18:00 | too friendly | |
| 18:03 | oleonard | Maybe if alohabot just said "Use Debian, use packages. Go." |
| 18:11 | drojf | lol |
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| 18:51 | tcohen | bye #koha |
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| 20:03 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 20:03 | rambutan | waves waves |
| 20:03 | you'll be happy to know we're expecting another 10" of snow tonight | |
| 20:04 | bag | 10" wow |
| 20:04 | * cait | waves |
| 20:05 | maximep | 10" is always fun =) |
| 20:05 | cait | free streets here, only a bit of snow |
| 20:05 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 20:05 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -2.0°C (9:00 PM CET on February 25, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:05 | maximep | 20" is less fun :/ |
| 20:06 | but that's from someone that doesn't have to shovel :P | |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | maximep: if they get another 10" they will have ~20" |
| 20:06 | total | |
| 20:06 | in 2 weeks | |
| 20:07 | rambutan | http://sirocco.accuweather.com[…]/640x480/uf25.jpg |
| 20:07 | maximep | we were lucky this year |
| 20:08 | @wunder cyqb | |
| 20:08 | huginn | maximep: The current temperature in lac st-charles, quebec city, Quebec is 0.1°C (3:07 PM EST on February 25, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:08 | bag | @wunder 93102 |
| 20:08 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Near Mission - TC, Santa Barbara, California is 18.2°C (12:08 PM PST on February 25, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1022 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:08 | bag | oh hot today :P |
| 20:08 | maximep | damn, that's alot of snow |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea | also, maximep - please have a look at bug 8979 |
| 20:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8979 major, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, ASSIGNED , "News" does not work with CCSR |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 20:08 | maximep | we don't use CCSR |
| 20:08 | so we really can't help anyone with it | |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | that's weird you're assigned to it |
| 20:09 | maximep | yeah nicole assigned all ccsr theme tickets for me |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | per the comment on 8884 |
| 20:10 | cait | was just checking the history - it was nicole |
| 20:10 | maximep | she misunderstood my answer |
| 20:10 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 20:10 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (8:50 PM CET on February 25, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:10 | bag | hmm.. who should those go to? |
| 20:10 | maximep | "I will do my best to get some time to look at those bugs, but they are all very easy to fix, so no need to assign them." |
| 20:11 | I could ask to get time to look at them | |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | oh I was really only just hoping for a sign off ^.^ |
| 20:11 | you don't have to fix it. | |
| 20:11 | bgkriegel | wizzyrea: why not change status to "Needs sign-off" |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | git bz told me it did |
| 20:11 | I guess it didn't | |
| 20:11 | bag | yeah I think edveal here has been trying to submit some patches for those - but got distracted by some other things |
| 20:12 | :) | |
| 20:12 | cait | bag: probably no one at first - or to opac default |
| 20:12 | bgkriegel | I changed it |
| 20:12 | bag | cool yeah opac default :) |
| 20:12 | bgkriegel | wizzyrea: I'll look at it in a moment |
| 20:12 | * bag | goes back to his ramen noodles :P |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | oh no worries - I thought maximep had something to do with it |
| 20:13 | it can sit for as long as it needs to. | |
| 20:13 | cait | bgkriegel++ #sign-offer of the month :) |
| 20:13 | maximep | I wish I had time :/ |
| 20:13 | wizzyrea | ah it's all god |
| 20:13 | magnuse | @karma bgkriegel |
| 20:13 | huginn | magnuse: Karma for "bgkriegel" has been increased 23 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 23. |
| 20:13 | cait | maximep: I know how you feel |
| 20:13 | magnuse | yeah bgkriegel++ |
| 20:13 | bgkriegel | :) |
| 20:13 | magnuse | @karma bgkriegel |
| 20:13 | huginn | magnuse: Karma for "bgkriegel" has been increased 24 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 24. |
| 20:13 | magnuse | yay! |
| 20:13 | wizzyrea | god? good |
| 20:14 | bag | bgkriegel++ |
| 20:14 | good I'm sure :P | |
| 20:14 | magnuse | "it's all god" - that's deep wizzyrea ;-) |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | heh. |
| 20:16 | maximep | is there any rules for sending selenium tests for an enhancement I will soon send ? |
| 20:16 | do I only attach the html from the IDE or do I also send an exported pl | |
| 20:16 | rangi | morning |
| 20:17 | cait | morning rangi |
| 20:17 | magnuse | kia ora rangi |
| 20:18 | bgkriegel | hello rangi |
| 20:19 | rangi: can you look my comment on Bug 9704? | |
| 20:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9704 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Add persona login to the CCSR theme |
| 20:19 | rangi | ill look after work |
| 20:19 | bag | morning rangi |
| 20:19 | libsysguy | hey maximep |
| 20:20 | bgkriegel | ok |
| 20:20 | libsysguy | sorry, just saw your question |
| 20:20 | I would *suggest* that you just send the html | |
| 20:20 | its easiest to plug into the ide | |
| 20:20 | the FF plugin won't re-read the .pl file | |
| 20:20 | but if you want to submit the .pl file as a patch for the prove function you can put it in the selenium test folder | |
| 20:20 | maximep | sure, but the pl tests could be executed when jenkins run |
| 20:21 | with something like ghostdriver | |
| 20:21 | libsysguy | true, but the pl tests can be generated when your patch gets through |
| 20:21 | and then integrated into jenkins | |
| 20:21 | maximep | ok |
| 20:21 | libsysguy | there are a few selenium tests in git |
| 20:21 | but none of them are plugged into Jenkins | |
| 20:21 | maximep | yeah, saw the selenium dir |
| 20:22 | not really sure how to organize my tests into it | |
| 20:23 | I guess I will create a suite for the test | |
| 20:23 | libsysguy | that is what I would do |
| 20:23 | maximep | ok |
| 20:23 | libsysguy | I have some tests that you can have that are in html form |
| 20:23 | tests to log-in | |
| 20:23 | do some basic clicking | |
| 20:23 | etc | |
| 20:24 | maximep | what login do you use ? |
| 20:24 | is there one by default with the test data ? | |
| 20:24 | libsysguy | typically I use the admin login. |
| 20:24 | then I have a test to create a patron | |
| 20:24 | and assign them as a staff user | |
| 20:24 | then I log out and log in as that patron with the test | |
| 20:25 | it'll probably be broken soon the way oleonard has been ripping out YUI code | |
| 20:25 | oleonard the YUI-ripper | |
| 20:25 | maximep | the tests currently in /selenium seems to assume youre logged in |
| 20:26 | probably the simplest way to do it | |
| 20:26 | libsysguy | I think all of those are written by biblibre |
| 20:26 | maximep | well, they are in french |
| 20:26 | so probably :p | |
| 20:26 | libsysguy | oh I was just saying that because I saw some wine stains :p |
| 20:26 | jk paul_p | |
| 20:26 | magnuse | it would probably be a good thing if someone checked that they still work... |
| 20:27 | libsysguy | aww he's not even here to hear my french wine joke :'( |
| 20:27 | magnuse | libsysguy: apropos - are you still coming to marseille? |
| 20:27 | libsysguy | I am not |
| 20:27 | magnuse | aww... too bad! |
| 20:27 | maximep | I like the way everyone says "apropos" in english |
| 20:28 | libsysguy | I know, we had some good fun stuff to hack on |
| 20:28 | maximep | i'm from quebec btw =) <insert poutine joke> |
| 20:28 | libsysguy | hopefully I can still get some of it working and send it along with bag |
| 20:28 | * magnuse | usually says "apropos" in norwegian |
| 20:28 | magnuse | libsysguy: put it in a bag and hope customs don't find it |
| 20:29 | :-) | |
| 20:29 | maximep | never understood why use it instead of "about" |
| 20:29 | magnuse | sorry for the pun bag... |
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| 20:29 | libsysguy | its okay bag has a bag of puns |
| 20:29 | bag | no worries |
| 20:29 | libsysguy | :p |
| 20:29 | bag | that's my bag baby |
| 20:30 | magnuse | :-) |
| 20:31 | maximep | when I create a ticket with my selenium test, it's ok I CC it to you libsysguy ? |
| 20:31 | to validate what i did | |
| 20:31 | libsysguy | sure |
| 20:32 | there is a patch to go with it? | |
| 20:32 | * libsysguy | is excited somebody *wants* to use selenium |
| 20:33 | maximep | used it for years at my old job |
| 20:33 | libsysguy | I feel like its gotten quite a bit better |
| 20:33 | the IDE is my best friend | |
| 20:33 | maximep | did everything to convince the client to have time |
| 20:34 | well, the IDE is less useful now with webdriver | |
| 20:34 | the export is really buggy | |
| 20:34 | libsysguy | ^^ this |
| 20:37 | maximep | I became addicted to doing selenium tests |
| 20:37 | but almost 2 years at this job without doing one :/ | |
| 20:38 | Dyrcona | maximep: Withdrawal is a pain.... |
| 20:38 | maximep | the pain is when you find all kind of regressions |
| 20:38 | that should have been tested | |
| 20:38 | really hurts :P | |
| 20:39 | bgkriegel | wizzyrea: Done. It works |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | bgkriegel++ thanks :) |
| 20:57 | drojf | no love for koha from the duckduckgo FOSS donations |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | ? |
| 20:59 | drojf | they donate a part of their revenue each year to FOSS projects |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | did we ask? |
| 20:59 | I guess HLT could be the recipient of those funds. | |
| 20:59 | drojf | they choose half, and half is chosen by their community. i nominated the search rewrite |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | was there a vote? |
| 21:00 | drojf | no, they just ask for suggestions and decide afterwards |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | so how does the community choose then? |
| 21:00 | link | |
| 21:00 | I"ll just read about it :P | |
| 21:00 | instead of hassling you :) | |
| 21:01 | drojf | http://duckduckgo.tumblr.com/p[…]ss-donations-2012 |
| 21:01 | that is the result | |
| 21:01 | https://duck.co/topic/foss-201[…]ation-nominations | |
| 21:02 | it is usually from ddg's sie projects they use for the search engine and the community part is usually privacy-ish, so it is again this year | |
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| 21:02 | drojf | s/sie/side |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | cool thx |
| 21:04 | drojf | i should have nominated myself and ask them to pay for email encryption in koha ^^ |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | or rewriting the password storage engine |
| 21:05 | rangi | :) |
| 21:07 | drojf | at least they did not donate to reactos :P |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | true |
| 21:10 | magnuse | "ReactOS® is a free open source operating system based on the best design principles found in the Windows NT® architecture"? |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | yikes. |
| 21:12 | magnuse | and with that nugget i bid #koha a good time of the day |
| 21:13 | rangi | cya magnuse |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | later magnuse |
| 21:14 | drojf | heh yeah reactos is really bizarre. i never heard of it before there were a lot of people (or a few people doing it very often…) asking for it in last year's ddg donation thingy |
| 21:14 | why would anyone want a FOSS OS that looks like XP and runs none-free windows-software? :D | |
| 21:14 | wizzyrea | next year we should apply again, and let everyone know so they can +1 on it |
| 21:15 | drojf | the +1 does not really matter |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | no? then why did the projects that got more than a few +1's win? |
| 21:15 | i'm seriously asking. | |
| 21:15 | drojf | it's not a vote, it's just suggestions, and ddg people try to put it together in a kind of theme |
| 21:16 | reactos got a lot of +1 last year ^^ | |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | yea, but it would probably be more of an impact if more than one person suggested it. |
| 21:17 | "oh one guy thinks koha is cool... whatever look at this stuff that like 10 people liked" | |
| 21:17 | you can't tell me that doesn't sway people. | |
| 21:17 | drojf | don't know. we can try :) |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | reactos is a dumb idea - it's not suprising it didn't win even if lots wanted it |
| 21:18 | good ideas with support > bad ideas with support | |
| 21:18 | libsysguy | anybody know what Julian Maurice nick is |
| 21:19 | wizzyrea | riseup seems like a really worthy project |
| 21:19 | drojf | nobody nominated javascript blocker ^^ |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | cryptocat too |
| 21:20 | eythian | hi |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | but funds to TWO javascript blocking plugins seems excessive. |
| 21:21 | drojf | hi eythian |
| 21:21 | yeah. two javascript blockers, no library system doesn't sound right | |
| 21:21 | ;) | |
| 21:22 | eythian | @wunder nzwn |
| 21:22 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 26, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | lovely. |
| 21:24 | drojf | anyway, if all koha support providers donated 10% of their 2012 revenue the search rewrite would be paid for already :P |
| 21:24 | rangi | heh |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | if every koha library donated 10% of what they saved in licensing fees it'd be paid for 10x over. |
| 21:25 | drojf | true |
| 21:25 | rangi | i think we'd be taking from the pot |
| 21:25 | drojf | bill them for that |
| 21:37 | bag | @wunder 93102 |
| 21:37 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Near Mission - TC, Santa Barbara, California is 17.0°C (1:36 PM PST on February 25, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 16%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling). |
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| 21:50 | Brooke | o/ |
| 21:51 | bag | hey Brooke |
| 21:51 | Brooke | howdy |
| 21:51 | wahanui | niihau, Brooke |
| 21:54 | rangi | hi Brooke |
| 21:54 | Brooke | i pehea to ra? |
| 21:54 | rangi | ahua pai |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | hi brooke :) |
| 22:02 | Brooke | hi hi hi |
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