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| 01:01 | bgkriegel | rangi? |
| 01:01 | wahanui | I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
| 01:01 | rangi | yes? |
| 01:02 | bgkriegel | bug 7387 needs another sign-off or is signed? |
| 01:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7387 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes |
| 01:03 | rangi | i changed the patch, another sign off would be good |
| 01:04 | bgkriegel | how to you test that? |
| 01:05 | rangi | you have to have memcached enabled, then edit a template and make a change like in the commit message |
| 01:06 | if the page still renders fine, its working :) | |
| 01:06 | bgkriegel | besides, there are tabulation problems :( |
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| 01:38 | bgkriegel | rangi, I did a followup for the tabulations |
| 01:39 | * jcamins | throws a whole bunch of leftover ingredients into a pan with some chopped spinach, calls it a meal. |
| 01:39 | rangi | thanks |
| 01:42 | !jenkins build koha_master now | |
| 01:42 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now |
| 01:42 | mtj | hey eythian, about? |
| 01:42 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1054 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1051 3 days 10 hr ago) |
| 02:10 | dcook | jcamins: Me thinks that is more of a meal than dried apricots and macadamia nuts :p |
| 02:12 | jcamins | dcook: it actually was really good. |
| 02:12 | And very filling. | |
| 02:13 | And it used up the thawed chicken, half an avocado, salsa from druthb, the yogurt, and... | |
| 02:13 | spinach. | |
| 02:15 | Not so happy about using up the spinach. | |
| 02:16 | dcook | Spinach is pretty essential. Mmm, leftover meals. I'm starting to think that a real lunch might be an idea sometime soon... |
| 02:19 | jcamins | And it hasn't been on sale in ages. |
| 02:20 | Probably because it's the middle of winter. | |
| 02:20 | Stupid winter, killing all the leafy greens. | |
| 02:22 | dcook: bet you missed this while you were in Canada. | |
| 02:22 | dcook | I had forgotten about that! |
| 02:23 | Vancouver is pretty nice all year round, but there was a serious lack of spinach... | |
| 02:23 | jcamins | I was talking about the constant food talk, but, yeah, I guess in Australia you also have summer right now. :) |
| 02:23 | dcook | Don't even get me started on my childhood O_O |
| 02:23 | Yep ^_^ | |
| 02:24 | * dcook | grew up in the rural prairies. He didn't have fresh mushrooms until he was 10+. |
| 02:24 | dcook | It has been a while since I heard any food talk on here too |
| 02:48 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 02:48 | Project Koha_master build #1054: FIXED in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1054/ | |
| 03:28 | bgkriegel | jcamins? |
| 03:28 | wahanui | i heard jcamins was too young to be the President of the United States. Which is a pity, because he had the votes at the 3.12 election. |
| 03:28 | jcamins | Yes? |
| 03:29 | bgkriegel | Bug 9412 is self-signed. |
| 03:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9412 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, hugh, Signed Off , add optional_params to C4::Service |
| 03:29 | bgkriegel | Change to need sign-off? |
| 03:29 | wahanui | bgkriegel: that doesn't look right |
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| 03:29 | jcamins | Yes please. |
| 03:29 | bgkriegel | ok |
| 03:32 | rangi, bug 9611 is signed. I can go to sleep now. | |
| 03:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9611 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Changing the password hashing algorithm from MD5 to more secure Bcrypt |
| 03:32 | bgkriegel | bye |
| 04:17 | mtj | peeps, is there a way to use git-bz to append a 'passed QA' string for each patch? |
| 04:18 | i know 'git-bz apply -s' adds a 'signed-off by xxx' string... | |
| 04:18 | i'm looking for the 'passed-qa by xxx' equiv, here… | |
| 04:21 | hmm, i might just got with a 'signed-off' string - when passing qa, for now | |
| 04:28 | dcook | I think that's what jdruart does |
| 04:29 | jcamins: would a separate 'passed QA' string be useful to you? | |
| 04:29 | mtj | yeah, i think so |
| 04:30 | to make a distinction between a sign-off and a passed-qa patch | |
| 04:30 | im just attempting to gbz-attach 5 'signed-off' patches to 9611, and making a nice mess | |
| 04:31 | i really want gbz to handle a range of commits :) | |
| 04:31 | dcook | You could always add another param to community's git-bz branch :p |
| 04:32 | mtj | (currently it only handles 1 at a time, yeah?) |
| 04:32 | dcook | I don't think so |
| 04:32 | I think it's supposed to handle multiples | |
| 04:33 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Attaching_patches | |
| 04:33 | I don't know if I've ever done it myself though | |
| 04:34 | mtj | ah, it does do a range, after all |
| 04:38 | woah, you gotta be smooth to edit/obsolete 5 commits, without a timeout | |
| 04:38 | but, successful :p | |
| 04:39 | sure makes the bug history confusing as hell tho :/ | |
| 04:48 | dcook | :/ |
| 04:49 | Could a person edit the commits beforehand using commit --amend, and then just obsolete during git bz attach? | |
| 04:49 | mtj | thats exactly what i did |
| 04:50 | its the obselting thats still tricky, that happens for every patch in the range | |
| 04:50 | so, too slow on any of them, and it fails | |
| 04:51 | dcook | Hmm, that's not good |
| 04:51 | mtj | the workaround might be to obsolete them before the upload, in bugzilla |
| 04:52 | ...then you would be able to skip/avoid that step | |
| 04:52 | ok, gotta scoot | |
| 04:52 | dcook | Hmm, that's true |
| 04:52 | Have a good one! | |
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| 05:33 | cait | hi #koha |
| 05:49 | dcook | hi cait :) |
| 05:49 | cait | hi dcook |
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| 07:17 | * magnuse | vawes |
| 07:18 | alex_a | hello o/ |
| 07:19 | * cait | waves |
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| 07:35 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:35 | wahanui | salut, reiveune |
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| 07:47 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:47 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -3.8°C (8:45 AM CET on February 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:47 | cait | brr. |
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| 07:53 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:53 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:02 | rangi | evening |
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| 08:04 | asaurat | hi |
| 08:04 | wahanui | niihau, asaurat |
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| 08:08 | magnuse | kia ora rangi asaurat paul_p gaetan_B |
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| 08:12 | paul_p | 'morning #koha & magnuse ! |
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| 08:21 | * dcook | thinks it's pretty cool that ByWater Solutions provides the sandbox for the SLAIS class on library automation :) |
| 08:28 | kf joined #koha | |
| 08:40 | magnuse | dcook: the library education in oslo provides each and every student with their own personal koha instance, thanks to the packages ;-) |
| 08:41 | guten morgen kf | |
| 08:41 | dcook | hey, kf ;) |
| 08:41 | magnuse: that is awesome! | |
| 08:42 | magnuse: But how does it do that? Does the library education in oslo provide packaged virtual machines, server space, or URLs? | |
| 08:42 | magnuse | i'm not sure about the specifics |
| 08:42 | but they have a server where they run it | |
| 08:43 | so they probably have something like studentnumber.koha.hioa.no or something similar | |
| 08:43 | rangi | the packages make it super easy to run multiple instances on one machine |
| 08:44 | * dcook | is intrigued. |
| 08:44 | kf | morning and hi all :) |
| 08:44 | dcook | I really do need to spin up that Debian vm sometime and play |
| 08:44 | But are they just using it as users or as developers? | |
| 08:44 | magnuse | dcook: if you don't know the packages yet they are definitely worth a look! |
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| 08:45 | magnuse | dcook: users |
| 08:45 | dcook | magnuse: that's what I hear ;) |
| 08:45 | magnuse | they just get access to the opac and the intranet, no hacking |
| 08:45 | dcook | I suppose it could inspire hacking on their own in any case |
| 08:45 | magnuse | they use it for doing homework in cataloguing etc |
| 08:45 | yeah, at least they have the possibility | |
| 08:45 | dcook | Mmm, I've helped set up Koha for a college that did that as well |
| 08:46 | Yeah, I remember using Horizon and getting frustrated... | |
| 08:46 | Wishing that I had more power | |
| 08:46 | Or flexibility | |
| 08:47 | magnuse | koha = power + flexibility :-) |
| 08:47 | dcook | Yeah! :D |
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| 09:00 | christophe_c | hi |
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| 09:06 | magnuse | bonjour christophe_c and gerundio |
| 09:07 | gerundio | hey magnuse, good morning |
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| 09:08 | kf | dcook: you were a horizon user? :) |
| 09:08 | christophe_c | bonjour magnuse ;-) hello everybody |
| 09:09 | dcook | bonjour, christophe_c |
| 09:09 | dcook: Yep. It's been a few years now, but it's probably the ILS that I've used the most (other than Koha now) | |
| 09:10 | christophe_c | hello dcook |
| 09:10 | * dcook | facepalm |
| 09:10 | dcook | kf: Yep. It's been a few years now, but it's probably the ILS that I've used the most (other than Koha now) |
| 09:10 | Nothing like talking to myself... | |
| 09:10 | * dcook | should probably go home soon |
| 09:10 | kf | dcook: I supported it for a while |
| 09:13 | dcook | kf: I seem to remember you mentioning that yesterday :). How did you find it? |
| 09:21 | Eeep! | |
| 09:21 | Must be running along for real this time | |
| 09:21 | Have a good day at work, kf. | |
| 09:21 | Cheers tout le monde! | |
| 09:26 | kf | ah, now I missed him |
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| 09:30 | drojf | goofd morning #koha |
| 09:42 | kf | hi drojf |
| 09:43 | drojf | hi kf |
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| 09:56 | vfernandes | hi :) |
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| 10:34 | drojf | is there a way to make cataloguing plugins do their thing automatically after i save the record? if i have to click into a field to start the plugin, the values i get (like next free callnumber) might be outdated due to another cataloguer using it. running the plugin in the saving process would at least decrease the chance of running into that problem |
| 10:35 | kf | hm I think the creation date does that or used to |
| 10:36 | and I think dpavlin has done some work on stocknumber calculating like that | |
| 10:38 | drojf | with a plugin? or by manually the calculations into the saving process? |
| 10:38 | kf | I think with a plugin |
| 10:38 | drojf | cool, thanks |
| 10:39 | oh, my sentence no verb. but you understood me anyway ;) | |
| 10:39 | kf | who needs verbs... |
| 10:40 | drojf: the date fields autofill... but not sure if that's the database's doing or the plugins | |
| 10:40 | hm maybe | |
| 10:40 | if you made the field mandatory | |
| 10:40 | ... like it works in cataloguing? | |
| 10:42 | * kf | thinks there has to be a way but no ida how it works :) |
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| 10:55 | drojf | if it is mandatory i geht a warning and a highlight. but yes, that would be a nice moment to check if there is a plugin available and just run it and save :) |
| 11:02 | mtj | fredericd++ thanks for the sign-off :) |
| 11:09 | kf | mtj: are you ever sleeping? :) |
| 11:11 | mtj | i'm often up at midnight :) |
| 11:23 | kf | true :) |
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| 11:51 | bazinga | Hello |
| 11:51 | wahanui | salut, bazinga |
| 11:52 | bazinga | Hi wahanui |
| 11:52 | just popped in looking for some help | |
| 11:53 | drojf | hi bazinga |
| 11:53 | first question? | |
| 11:53 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 11:53 | bazinga | I have intalled koha and trying to use it |
| 11:54 | drojf | sounds good so far |
| 11:58 | bazinga | to my dismay, i have not managed to add new patrons |
| 11:58 | kf | what version of koha did you install? |
| 11:58 | have you defined patron categories in administration? | |
| 11:58 | And a library? :) | |
| 12:00 | bazinga | yes, i have created a library and a patron category |
| 12:01 | and set the library to the one i created | |
| 12:01 | kf | and when you go to the patrons module now, there is no new button? |
| 12:03 | bazinga | no |
| 12:07 | drojf | bazinga: so you have never added a user and are logged in with the database user from the beginning? or did it work before and you are using another user account right now? |
| 12:08 | bazinga | i created a new instance and i am using the database user for this instance |
| 12:10 | drojf | ok that is odd then. have you set the library to use atm? what does it say in the upper right corner? (something like NO LIBRARY SET ( Set library ) | koha_koha ( Log out ) | Help ) |
| 12:12 | bazinga | it is set to the library |
| 12:12 | drojf | what version of koha are you using, on what operating system and how did you install it (=did you use packages?) |
| 12:14 | bazinga | Could you do me favour and tell me the steps after creating a new instance, just to make sure i have not messed up something on the way |
| 12:14 | I am using ubuntu 12.04, and installed it using packages | |
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| 12:16 | jcamins | @later tell mtj I would prefer you signed off on patches rather than marking them "Passed-QA-by." I use Passed-QA-by to indicate a member of the QA team did not apply a patch when QAing. |
| 12:16 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:17 | bazinga | I am not sure how to find out the koha version because i installed it from ubuntu repository and didn't notice |
| 12:17 | mtj | hi jcamins , i'm still up |
| 12:18 | jcamins | Isn't it kind of late for you? |
| 12:18 | mtj | jcamins, ok - so i just add 'signed off by xxx' to my qa-ed patches, yeah? |
| 12:18 | drojf | bazinga: if you choose "More"->"About Koha" you should find "Koha version" |
| 12:19 | mtj | yeah, just about to hit the hay... |
| 12:19 | jcamins | Right. |
| 12:19 | git commit --amend -s | |
| 12:19 | mtj | ok, understood |
| 12:19 | bazinga | oh, thanks it is 3.08.09.000 |
| 12:20 | mtj | hi bazinga :) |
| 12:22 | bazinga | hello mtj |
| 12:22 | drojf | bazinga: if you did not use sample data, i think adding a library and a patron category should be enough to add a patron. but that is what you said you did |
| 12:23 | bazinga | drojf, i failed to mention i added sample data(libraries, and categories) |
| 12:25 | drojf | bazinga: it should be even easier then. like, just log in with the database user, click on patrons and then "new patrons". i think that is what you did though |
| 12:26 | how does the patron screen look for you? maybe you can make a screenshot? | |
| 12:28 | bazinga | drojf, how can i send you the screenshot? |
| 12:28 | drojf | you could put it on some image hoster, like http://imgur.com |
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| 12:29 | drojf | oh, that does not seem to work |
| 12:29 | kf | bazinga: sorry, got called away |
| 12:30 | drojf | its really slow for me, does it work for you? |
| 12:30 | kf | and gone again... |
| 12:31 | drojf | my internet is weird, brb |
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| 12:35 | drojf | back |
| 12:35 | bazinga | drojf: let's say i somehow managed to add a patron(since you have made the steps clear for me), then there is cataloguing. Could you please tell me the steps for that(since the official manual is not, i think, written for beginners |
| 12:36 | drojf | bazinga: do you have experience with the MARC format? |
| 12:37 | bazinga | No |
| 12:37 | drjf, newbie for this stuff :-) | |
| 12:37 | drojf | then you will experience quite a learning curve ;) |
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| 12:38 | bazinga | drojf: I am ready for that since i have to master this :-) |
| 12:38 | drojf | i'm afraid i am not able to walk you through MARC here, it's a strange beast of labyrinths ;) you could start with looking at the "fast add framework". it has a reduced number of fields |
| 12:39 | generally, you will have to see what kind of metadata you need to catalogue for your collection, and find out what goes in which field | |
| 12:39 | i don't know any MARC introductions, maybe someone else does? | |
| 12:40 | bazinga | drojf: Thanks a lot for your help. I will keep digging :-) |
| 12:46 | jcamins | bazinga: http://www.loc.gov/marc/umb/ <-- this may help a bit with MARC |
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| 12:47 | drojf | bazinga: you're welcome. and feel free to express anger towards MARC at any time, we all do ;) |
| 12:47 | marc? | |
| 12:47 | wahanui | The MARC specs live at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ - abandon hope all ye who enter here. |
| 12:47 | kf | heh |
| 12:47 | back... kinda | |
| 12:47 | bazinga: where are you from? | |
| 12:48 | drojf | marc must die? |
| 12:48 | wahanui | http://marc-must-die.info/ |
| 12:50 | bazinga | kf: I am from Ethiopia |
| 12:51 | kf: It is a great nation on some corner of planet Earth :-) | |
| 12:53 | drojf | :) |
| 12:54 | @wunder addis abeba | |
| 12:54 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Brusly, Louisiana is 11.9°C (6:54 AM CST on February 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:55 | drojf | heh, that is wrong |
| 12:55 | @wunder addis abeba, ethiopia | |
| 12:55 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Brusly, Louisiana is 11.9°C (6:55 AM CST on February 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:56 | drojf | hm |
| 12:56 | @wunder addis ababa, ethiopia | |
| 12:56 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia is 28.0°C (4:00 PM EAT on February 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling). |
| 12:57 | drojf | ha |
| 12:57 | weird english spelling :P | |
| 12:57 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 12:57 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Pankow, Weissensee, Germany is 1.6°C (1:57 PM CET on February 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:58 | bazinga | drojf: We don't talk much about weather here: it is almost the same the whole year, except for the rains :-) |
| 12:58 | drojf | i see :) |
| 12:58 | jcamins | Brusly, LA? |
| 12:58 | drojf | jcamins: no idea how it makes that connection |
| 13:02 | * drojf | goes shopping |
| 13:04 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #21 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: STILL FAILING) |
| 13:04 | Starting build #289 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 9 mo 27 days ago) | |
| 13:04 | Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #21: STILL FAILING in 1 min 1 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Docs_3.10.x/21/ | |
| 13:04 | Nicole C. Engard: formatting fix | |
| 13:04 | Project Koha_Docs build #289: STILL FAILING in 1 min 1 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/289/ | |
| 13:04 | Nicole C. Engard: formatting fix | |
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| 13:29 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 13:29 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 12.0°C (10:00 AM ART on February 19, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
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| 13:29 | alohabot | Hi mib_bv0074, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
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| 13:33 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:35 | tcohen | hi oleonard |
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| 13:48 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #22 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: STILL FAILING) |
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| 13:48 | Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #22: STILL FAILING in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Docs_3.10.x/22/ | |
| 13:48 | Nicole C. Engard: add 952$x to cataloging guide | |
| 13:48 | Project Koha_Docs build #290: STILL FAILING in 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/290/ | |
| 13:48 | Nicole C. Engard: add 952$x to cataloging guide | |
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| 14:42 | oleonard | gmcharlt, jcamins_away: http://nimbuspub.tumblr.com/po[…]oss-your-keyboard |
| 14:44 | kf | hi oleonard :) |
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| 15:03 | gmcharlt | oleonard: hehe |
| 15:04 | the cat was just providing some illumination for an otherwise bare manuscript | |
| 15:05 | kf | very thoughtful cat :) |
| 15:06 | oleonard | You have to picture the moment right before the pawprints appeared when the cat deliberately knocked over the bottle of ink and walked through it |
| 15:07 | kf | heh |
| 15:08 | * kf | hums happily as she accesses the web installer for a new library |
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| 15:19 | magnuse | kf: yay?!? |
| 15:19 | kf | yea :) |
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| 15:29 | maximep | back to working on koha for a few weeks and I should have a few hours to contribute. yay =) |
| 15:30 | kf | yay! |
| 15:30 | magnuse | yay! |
| 15:42 | tcohen | can anyone point me to code that makes the GUI show a warning box? |
| 15:43 | kf | tcohen: maybe look at the wiki. oleonard wrote up something about the styling at least |
| 15:44 | oleonard | I don't see that on the wiki page though |
| 15:44 | tcohen, we use <div class="dialog alert"> [ warning message ] </div> | |
| 15:45 | kf | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rors_and_messages |
| 15:45 | oleonard++ | |
| 15:45 | oleonard | Oh thanks kf I was looking at the coding guidelines page :) |
| 15:46 | I need to revise that page with updated screenshots | |
| 15:46 | tcohen | i was aleready on the coding guidelines, but couldn't find that |
| 15:46 | thanks | |
| 15:46 | kf | tcohen: it's separate :) and if not even owen remembers writing it ;) |
| 15:47 | jcamins_away | oleonard: Bootstrap also has a collapsible widget which you might (or might not) find preferable to jQueryUI. |
| 15:47 | (that is, the equivalent widget in jQueryUI) | |
| 15:49 | oleonard | jcamins_away: I did not find that. Do you have a link? |
| 15:49 | Oh never mind jcamins_away there it is. | |
| 15:50 | jcamins_away | oleonard: http://twitter.github.com/boot[…]ipt.html#collapse |
| 15:50 | I'm not using jQueryUI for my other project, so I have no idea how they compare. | |
| 15:51 | oleonard | I believe we don't already have that widget included in our Bootstrap build, so I'm going to try to get it working in jQueryUI first |
| 15:51 | ...since we do already have it available in jQueryUI | |
| 15:51 | jcamins_away | Ah. |
| 15:52 | In that case, we should use the jQueryUI version. | |
| 15:52 | * oleonard | assumed Bootstrap had its own version and was surprised not to find it.. poor searching |
| 15:52 | jcamins_away | I hadn't realized that we had a custom Bootstrap build. |
| 15:52 | oleonard | Yes, for the sake of keeping the file size down |
| 15:52 | kf | :) |
| 15:53 | jcamins_away | I didn't even know that was an option. |
| 15:53 | oleonard | http://twitter.github.com/boot[…]ap/customize.html |
| 15:54 | jcamins_away | Nifty. |
| 15:55 | tcohen | jcamins_away: how would u like to present the warning for bug 9659? |
| 15:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9659 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports |
| 15:55 | jcamins_away | I'm fine with either an alert in-page or a pop-up. |
| 15:55 | tcohen | should the user be able to run the report anyway? |
| 15:56 | (the warning saying a null value will be used for the field?) | |
| 15:56 | * jcamins_away | doesn't have an opinion- up to you. :) |
| 15:56 | tcohen | ack |
| 16:03 | oleonard | jcamins_away: Bug 7969 says "pushed to master" but doesn't seem to be? |
| 16:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , select all / unselect all on fines page |
| 16:04 | jcamins_away | Hm. |
| 16:04 | No it doesn't. | |
| 16:05 | Now it is. | |
| 16:05 | oleonard | Thanks |
| 16:08 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:10 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7969' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]71a680af377c617c0> |
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| 16:15 | Morthland | Hey, I recently upgraded to 3.10, |
| 16:15 | I wanted to switch to ccsr, but it's not giving me the option. | |
| 16:17 | jcamins_away | The opacthemes syspref only has one option? |
| 16:19 | Morthland | ah. Thanks. I was looking at the template syspref |
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| 16:50 | drojf | are those the people from this other weird study with lots of liblime? |
| 16:51 | oleonard | ? |
| 16:52 | jcamins_away | Yes. |
| 16:52 | kf | jcamins_away: easy analytics - that's tied to the item, right? so I could catalog items for a serial subscription and link each issue/item record to articles? |
| 16:52 | jcamins_away | kf: right. |
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| 16:55 | kf | jcamins_away: thx |
| 16:55 | will have to test that on the train tomorrow :) | |
| 16:55 | oleonard | catalogue/export.pl requires "export_catalog" permission, but its functionality is the same as opac-export.pl isn't it? |
| 16:56 | jcamins_away | oleonard: I don't know, but that would make sense to me. |
| 16:56 | oleonard | In fact opac-export.pl seems to have even more formats |
| 17:00 | jcamins_away | Probably because I added some, and wasn't even aware that catalogue/export.pl existed. |
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| 17:29 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1055: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1055/ |
| 17:29 | Owen Leonard: Bug 7969 - select all / unselect all on fines page | |
| 17:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , select all / unselect all on fines page |
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| 17:42 | oleonard | The export script has "endnote" as an option but it doesn't seem to be exposed in the template. Is that just an oversight? |
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| 17:48 | oleonard | Perhaps not an oversight. It doesn't seem to work. |
| 17:50 | jcamins_away | Perhaps the name was changed to RIS? |
| 17:52 | oleonard | both are listed in the OPAC script (marc2endnote and marc2ris) |
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| 17:59 | * cait | waves |
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| 18:30 | jcamins_away | cait: "Sonderheft"? |
| 18:30 | "Offprint"? | |
| 18:31 | cait | hm not sure what the english term is actually |
| 18:31 | hm special issue maybe? | |
| 18:31 | jcamins_away | Ah! |
| 18:31 | Of course. | |
| 18:31 | Thanks. | |
| 18:31 | cait | yw |
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| 18:56 | talljoy | hey John_Crockett |
| 18:58 | nancyk | just about ready to start |
| 18:59 | John_Crockett | Hi <talljoy>! |
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| 19:00 | nancyk | #startmeeting |
| 19:00 | huginn | nancyk: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' |
| 19:00 | wahanui | if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me |
| 19:00 | i already had it that way, huginn. | |
| 19:00 | nancyk | #chair nancyk |
| 19:00 | #startmeeting Kohacon plan Feb2013 | |
| 19:00 | huginn | Meeting started Tue Feb 19 19:00:54 2013 UTC. The chair is nancyk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 19:00 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 19:00 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Kohacon plan Feb2013) | |
| 19:00 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'kohacon_plan_feb2013' |
| 19:01 | nancyk | #chair nancyk |
| 19:01 | huginn | Current chairs: nancyk |
| 19:01 | nancyk | who is with us today? |
| 19:02 | nengard | #info Nicole Engard, ByWater Solutions |
| 19:02 | talljoy | #info Joy Nelson ByWater Solutions |
| 19:02 | John_Crockett | John Crockett, Washoe County Library System |
| 19:02 | #info John Crockett, Washoe County Library System | |
| 19:03 | edveal | #info Ed Veal, ByWater Solutions |
| 19:03 | nancyk | anybody else? |
| 19:03 | nengard | it's the bywater gang :) |
| 19:04 | edveal | :) |
| 19:04 | jcamins_away | #info Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services, RM for Koha 3.12 (sort of here only) |
| 19:04 | nancyk | Ok let's get started |
| 19:05 | #topic Overview of proposed schedule and discussion | |
| 19:05 | Topic for #koha is now Overview of proposed schedule and discussion (Meeting topic: Kohacon plan Feb2013) | |
| 19:05 | nancyk | We have oct 16 - oct 18 as presentations |
| 19:06 | #info oct 16-18 presentations | |
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| 19:06 | nancyk | #info roadtrip sat oct 19 |
| 19:06 | #info Oct 20-22 Hackfest | |
| 19:07 | anyone have a better or different idea? | |
| 19:07 | nengard | Sounds good |
| 19:07 | That's usually how it goes | |
| 19:07 | talljoy | roadtrip++ |
| 19:08 | nancyk | #info i was thinking last year it was 9-4 |
| 19:08 | nengard | You mean time of day? |
| 19:08 | 9am-4pm? | |
| 19:08 | nancyk | yes |
| 19:08 | nengard | I forget :) |
| 19:08 | talljoy | might have been 10am |
| 19:08 | nengard | but that works - I'd say we wait until we get our speaking proposals in to set the times of day |
| 19:08 | we might not have enough to fill 9-4 or we might have too much | |
| 19:10 | nancyk | then we talk to each other , and share info |
| 19:10 | #info Brooke wants to go to UNR to see their Makerspace | |
| 19:11 | maybe we can squeeze that in somehow. It will take logistics | |
| 19:11 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer - sorry for being late |
| 19:11 | nancyk | on to next topic |
| 19:12 | #topic how many we will be expecting | |
| 19:12 | Topic for #koha is now how many we will be expecting (Meeting topic: Kohacon plan Feb2013) | |
| 19:12 | cait | not an easy question :) |
| 19:12 | talljoy | i'll be there. |
| 19:12 | nengard | I think we need to know the cost of the hotel for sure |
| 19:13 | cait | I will try to |
| 19:13 | nengard | All of ByWater will be there |
| 19:13 | The entire team | |
| 19:13 | nancyk | #info we are planning on 200 for the first three days and 50 for each hackfest day, too many? |
| 19:13 | nengard | I think people need prices and dates so that they can go to their admin for budgeting approval |
| 19:13 | cait | I think a programme would help too |
| 19:13 | or knowing that you will get to speak | |
| 19:13 | for some | |
| 19:14 | nengard | true |
| 19:14 | some places will only pay if you're speaking | |
| 19:14 | cait | I feel like it will probably be bigger than last kohacons... but not sure how much bigger |
| 19:14 | yes, especially for some countries outside of the US | |
| 19:14 | nengard | nancyk will the washoe libraries who all voted be there? |
| 19:14 | that should give you an idea | |
| 19:15 | nancyk | #info that's up on the site |
| 19:15 | #link http://koha-community.org/kohacon13/ | |
| 19:15 | John_Crockett | rooms at the Atlantis are $81/night (includes $12 resort fee) + tax |
| 19:15 | cait | woohoo :) that's affordable :) |
| 19:16 | nengard | yeah very |
| 19:16 | magnuse | cheap by norwegian standards :-) |
| 19:16 | John_Crockett | @nengard, most of the Washoe County staff will be attending the Nevada Library Association Annual Conference which will be held concurrently with KohaCon13 at the Atlantis. |
| 19:16 | huginn | John_Crockett: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 19:16 | nancyk | #info actually some are $69 plus resort fee and tax |
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| 19:17 | John_Crockett | right, $69 + $12 resort fee is $81 |
| 19:17 | cait | true, paid more for that room in oslo and got no pool! |
| 19:18 | nengard | hehe |
| 19:18 | * talljoy | gets out her abacus to confirm that math |
| 19:18 | nengard | I forget what the room in Bergen was |
| 19:18 | nancyk | #info we will need 125 for the three programming days and I forget for hackfest |
| 19:18 | nengard | but Nevada is known for cheap accomodations |
| 19:18 | cait | nancyk: can you explain? |
| 19:18 | drojf | it depends on how much tax is whether that is affordable ;) |
| 19:18 | nengard | @John_Crockett wasn't the idea to hold KohaCon and NLA near each other so people could attend both? |
| 19:18 | huginn | nengard: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 19:19 | nancyk | #info the hotel will provide free meeting space, internet for meetings 10MB up and down all meeting days. |
| 19:19 | nengard | oh ... no @ |
| 19:19 | stilly me | |
| 19:19 | silly | |
| 19:20 | nancyk | i can get the tax rate information so we all will know the bottom line |
| 19:20 | #topic NLA Nevada Library Association | |
| 19:20 | Topic for #koha is now NLA Nevada Library Association (Meeting topic: Kohacon plan Feb2013) | |
| 19:21 | John_Crockett | @nengard, absolutely. Koha attendees are most welcome to attend NLA speakers and workshops, however we do charge a registration fee of $20 per day. |
| 19:21 | huginn | John_Crockett: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 19:21 | nengard | John_Crockett I meant the other way around - KohaCon is free so NLA folks can come to ours |
| 19:21 | :) | |
| 19:21 | nancyk | #info We are sharing some break time .space with NLA on Thursday and Friday |
| 19:22 | cait | :) |
| 19:22 | John_Crockett | yes, Washoe County staff and NLA attendees will be made aware they are welcome at KohaCon workshops |
| 19:22 | yes, we definitely want to maximize mingling during breaks | |
| 19:22 | nancyk | #info we did the sharing to get better room rates. You can also chat with Nevada librarians during the breaks |
| 19:23 | #topic Further discussion on presentations | |
| 19:23 | Topic for #koha is now Further discussion on presentations (Meeting topic: Kohacon plan Feb2013) | |
| 19:23 | cait | I think it would be good to get the call for papers out soon |
| 19:23 | nengard | Yes - you want me to set that up |
| 19:23 | cait | so people can start planning and the programme is set early |
| 19:23 | nengard | like in previous years? |
| 19:24 | cait | I wouldn't try to ask for special topics I think - maybe have a wiki page again for suggestions what people wnat to hear and just see what comes in |
| 19:24 | so um. like in previous years maybe? | |
| 19:24 | nancyk | #info so far we have newbie tips, panel discussions, for hackfest, virtual servers |
| 19:24 | nengard | I find a form much easier as a program planner to sort through then a wiki page |
| 19:25 | but we can have a wiki page where people ask for topics they'd like to see | |
| 19:25 | but we had an official form for proposals in previous years | |
| 19:25 | And then that info went on to the wiki once approved | |
| 19:25 | cait | nengard: right, I meant a form to send in your abstract |
| 19:25 | but maybe a iwki page for people to note what they would like to hear | |
| 19:25 | nengard | yup |
| 19:25 | agreed | |
| 19:25 | sounds great | |
| 19:25 | cait | sorry :) bit tired |
| 19:26 | nancyk | #info we are going to get a call for papers ready soon, just wanted any suggestions |
| 19:26 | nengard | I can get that done today and share the link with John for the conference page |
| 19:26 | nancyk you want to do it? I had volunteered for program planning so I can set it up | |
| 19:26 | I think I still have previous year's templates | |
| 19:26 | and can just change the date and publish :) | |
| 19:27 | cait | quite sure the one from last year I did for slef shoudl be still around in wordpress too |
| 19:27 | nancyk | ok nicole, we should talk about getting that out asap |
| 19:28 | nengard | I can do it now |
| 19:28 | be done today | |
| 19:28 | nancyk | great |
| 19:28 | nengard | be done in a few minutes actually |
| 19:28 | nancyk | ok |
| 19:29 | #topic plans for a trip somewhere fun on saturday | |
| 19:29 | Topic for #koha is now plans for a trip somewhere fun on saturday (Meeting topic: Kohacon plan Feb2013) | |
| 19:29 | nancyk | #info What do you think about arranging for a bus to and from a couple of locations? |
| 19:30 | nengard | #info call for speakers: https://docs.google.com/spread[…]2hJQ2U4S3hXX2c6MA |
| 19:31 | nancyk | ok |
| 19:31 | talljoy | what kind of locations nancyk |
| 19:31 | cait | nengard: can you make the fields a bit longer? title is very short :) |
| 19:32 | nengard | I'll try ... it's a google thing |
| 19:32 | don't think they let you change field sizes | |
| 19:33 | John_Crockett | call for programs link added to http://koha-community.org/kohacon/kohacon13/ |
| 19:33 | nancyk | #info Lake Tahoe, either a cruise or just messing around, or Virginia City, an historic western town |
| 19:33 | cait | nengard: the link to registration needs an update :) |
| 19:33 | nengard | already did |
| 19:33 | refresh | |
| 19:33 | nancyk | nicole, you are making my head spin |
| 19:34 | talljoy | she does that to us all. whirling dervish she is |
| 19:34 | * nengard | takes it as a compliment |
| 19:34 | talljoy | as you should |
| 19:34 | nancyk | #topic Anything else for now? |
| 19:34 | Topic for #koha is now Anything else for now? (Meeting topic: Kohacon plan Feb2013) | |
| 19:34 | talljoy | nancyk can you post some interesting sites to visit and ask for interest on the wiki? |
| 19:35 | or did nengard already do that? ;-) | |
| 19:35 | nengard | i don't know a darn thing about NV :) so that's all Nancy :) |
| 19:35 | nancyk | #info I'll get John C. to do that next week |
| 19:35 | talljoy | get to it John_Crockett |
| 19:36 | John_Crockett | I'm on it! |
| 19:36 | nancyk | #info We also have phone apps for visiting reno |
| 19:36 | talljoy | cool |
| 19:37 | drojf | for firefox os? |
| 19:37 | nengard | oh - phone tips - we needed tips when we went to the UK about how to get our phones to work and where to get sim cards, etc etc |
| 19:37 | John_Crockett | the Reno-Tahoe Visitors Association link that's on the wiki now is most helpful http://www.visitrenotahoe.com/ |
| 19:37 | nengard | that would be nice for those coming from outside of the US |
| 19:38 | John_Crockett | great suggestion, we'll be sure to add that |
| 19:38 | nancyk | #info the phone apps are for apple and android |
| 19:39 | #info So I guess we will wait to see what comes in for programs, and I'll get the room tax info out to the list with links | |
| 19:40 | nengard | John_Crockett can you put a blog post on Koha-Community about the conference page and the info on it - and the call for speakers |
| 19:40 | or do you want me to? | |
| 19:40 | jcamins_away | If it hasn't been done or mentioned yet, someone should announce the call for speakers. |
| 19:40 | nancyk | yes please |
| 19:40 | jcamins_away | Oh, and nengard said that while I was waiting for my keylag to catch up. |
| 19:40 | nengard | hehe |
| 19:41 | nancyk | #topic next meeting March 19, same time or another time? |
| 19:41 | Topic for #koha is now next meeting March 19, same time or another time? (Meeting topic: Kohacon plan Feb2013) | |
| 19:41 | nancyk | are you tired of meeting at 19UTC? |
| 19:41 | John_Crockett | @nengard, will do |
| 19:41 | huginn | John_Crockett: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 19:41 | cait | it's a good time for europe - early evening |
| 19:42 | probably bad for india? | |
| 19:42 | nengard | the time works for me |
| 19:42 | but it does seem like we're a small group today | |
| 19:42 | nancyk | #info ok March 19 19 UTC for our next meeting |
| 19:43 | drojf | isnt europe travelling to france at that time? |
| 19:43 | nancyk | #info I'll be contacting the screeners soon |
| 19:43 | nengard | I will not be able to attend (just an fyi) |
| 19:43 | nancyk | anything else? |
| 19:43 | wahanui | rumour has it anything else is a guess |
| 19:43 | nengard | hehe |
| 19:43 | Nothing else I can think about | |
| 19:43 | nancyk | nice |
| 19:43 | cait | drojf: true, but not all europe :) |
| 19:44 | nancyk | ok that's it for now, lots of info to come. |
| 19:44 | #endmeeting | |
| 19:44 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to irc://irc.oftc.net/#koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org/ | |
| 19:44 | huginn | Meeting ended Tue Feb 19 19:44:39 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 19:44 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-02-19-19.00.html | |
| 19:44 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]3-02-19-19.00.txt | |
| 19:44 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]19-19.00.log.html | |
| 19:46 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org The next general meeting is 13 March 2013 at 18:00 UTC | |
| 19:47 | tcohen | bye #koha |
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| 20:04 | oleonard | jcamins_away: You going to Reno? |
| 20:08 | jcamins_away | oleonard: I will go to at least part of it, I think. |
| 20:08 | You? | |
| 20:08 | wahanui | You are welcome, I also tried the other - moving js out of translated paths |
| 20:08 | oleonard | Yes |
| 20:10 | I'm missing Marseille Hackfest, so I can't miss KohaCon | |
| 20:11 | Anyway, I haven't been to a KohaCon since 2008. That's ridiculous! | |
| 20:11 | * jcamins_away | has never been to a KohaCon! |
| 20:12 | oleonard | At least you were at the last one virtually |
| 20:12 | jcamins_away | True. |
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| 20:13 | drojf | will there be live streaming? |
| 20:13 | rangi | 2009 oleonard :) |
| 20:13 | drojf | best question, too late for meeting :( |
| 20:13 | rangi | we didnt have one in 2008 :) |
| 20:14 | oleonard | You're right of course rangi |
| 20:14 | rangi | drojf: its incredibly hard to set that up and have it work reliably |
| 20:14 | oleonard | Just goes to show how long it's been :P |
| 20:14 | rangi | drojf: you basically either need someone who doesnt mind missing the whole conference to look after it |
| 20:14 | or pay someone | |
| 20:14 | jcamins_away | Even recording a conference is difficult. |
| 20:15 | * rangi | bailed for kohacon10 |
| 20:15 | rangi | but we did get everything recorded |
| 20:15 | we rented equipment to do that | |
| 20:15 | jcamins_away | And was it easy? |
| 20:15 | rangi | with a few stationery cameras, its not so bad |
| 20:16 | jcamins_away | I guess it's the post-recording part that's problematic, when you want to make the video available to people. |
| 20:16 | rangi | stationary too |
| 20:16 | yep | |
| 20:16 | we had antisirk for that :) | |
| 20:16 | drojf | yeah streaming is probably a lot of work and in the end it does not function properly |
| 20:16 | cait | and she did part of it at the hackfest I tihnk? |
| 20:16 | rangi | yeah and sucks all the bandwidth out of the room :) |
| 20:16 | cait | also utilizing some other macs |
| 20:17 | rangi | yup |
| 20:17 | * oleonard | hoards the bandwidth |
| 20:21 | rangi | http://blip.tv/the-curious-and-wondering-eye |
| 20:21 | theres all the kohacon10 ones | |
| 20:24 | should I offer to do a history of Koha talk? | |
| 20:25 | cait | totally :) |
| 20:25 | and do your thing to really confuse them at the beginning :) | |
| 20:25 | rangi | heh |
| 20:27 | ill submit 2 proposals they can pick one | |
| 20:27 | drojf | there was a point when i thought i could speak it together with rangi for the edinburgh video. it was my test for the html5 video enhancement, i don't know how often i had to watch the beginning :D |
| 20:27 | rangi | heh |
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| 20:29 | cait | heh |
| 20:29 | wise choice tho | |
| 20:30 | jcamins_away | I should probably submit a proposal to talk about something. |
| 20:30 | I feel like that's expected of the former RM. | |
| 20:31 | oleonard | Like maybe a talk about how obnoxious developers are |
| 20:33 | drojf | germany opened an "open data" portal, like minutes ago. and it crashed immediately. i'm so proud of my country :P |
| 20:34 | rangi | heh |
| 20:34 | cait | lol |
| 20:35 | drojf | at least java throws nice errors ;) |
| 20:37 | germ engineering… | |
| 20:37 | cait | drojf: hm |
| 20:38 | drojf: starting to wonder if you are not really serious in your appreciation for this great country's achievements | |
| 20:39 | yay oleonard is giving memore to qa! | |
| 20:39 | well... we need sign-offers first of course... | |
| 20:43 | jcamins_away | oleonard: will all the save buttons get replaced with Bootstrap buttons too? |
| 20:44 | oleonard | We could decide to style all input buttons as Bootstrap buttons if we wanted to. It's a matter of adding a class or two to each |
| 20:45 | jcamins_away | Is there a strong argument for doing that (or for not doing that)? |
| 20:46 | oleonard | I would say there is an argument for keeping standard submit buttons visually different from toolbar buttons, but that isn't necessarily an argument against Bootstrap all around because we could do it with color |
| 20:52 | jcamins_away | NYU is testing Summon. |
| 20:52 | oleonard | Whassat? |
| 20:52 | jcamins_away | Ebsco's "discovery layer." |
| 20:53 | NYU just implemented a discovery layer two years ago. | |
| 20:53 | It didn't work on mobile browsers. | |
| 20:53 | * jcamins_away | discovered that. :D |
| 20:54 | nudges oleonard enthusiastically... you see what I did there? :P | |
| 20:55 | oleonard | :D |
| 20:55 | drojf | jcamins_away, discovery layer deficiency discoverer |
| 20:56 | jcamins_away | drojf: you can simplify that: "jcamins_away, discovery layer user." |
| 20:57 | drojf | hehe |
| 20:57 | oleonard | So, a discover layer is what you add when the default search interface sucks? Is that right? |
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| 20:57 | rangi | the only thing that a discovery layer adds (in theory) is the ability to search databases and your catalogue at the same time |
| 20:58 | but yes most ppl use it cos their opac sux | |
| 20:58 | however so do almost all discovery layers | |
| 20:58 | jcamins_away | rangi: unfortunately, most discovery layers fail to include databases due to licensing restrictions. |
| 20:58 | rangi | exactly |
| 20:59 | its pretty much a fail all round | |
| 20:59 | you no longer have realtime info, lose features (in koha anyway) | |
| 20:59 | cait | I have been thinking about saying something like that |
| 20:59 | because they put my koha presentation in the discovery service session... | |
| 21:00 | rangi | id say discovery layers promise lots, deliver nothing |
| 21:01 | http://www.wcl.govt.nz/easyfind/ | |
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| 21:02 | rangi | http://palmerstonnorth.kotui.org.nz/ |
| 21:02 | (aquabrowser and EDS respectively) | |
| 21:02 | try linking to a search result page in either | |
| 21:02 | oh wait you cant | |
| 21:02 | 1997 called it wants its dumbarse sessions in urls back | |
| 21:03 | jcamins_away | Hehe. |
| 21:03 | oleonard | Wow yeah |
| 21:03 | Dyrcona | rangi: You need to convince WCL to use Koha! |
| 21:03 | rangi | believe me, we've tried |
| 21:03 | its TLC CarlX and aquabrowser | |
| 21:04 | im not happy my rates are paying (in a tiny part) for that | |
| 21:04 | try finding any of the 4 cd's they have by the the | |
| 21:04 | :) | |
| 21:04 | Dyrcona | Anyone ever gotten aquabrowser to work with Koha? |
| 21:05 | We've had some people ask if aquabrowser works with Evergreen. | |
| 21:05 | rangi | ive never tried, im sure you could, just not sure of the point .. worse search results? :) |
| 21:05 | Dyrcona | rangi: Next time anyone asks, I'll quote you on that! |
| 21:05 | rangi | go right ahead :-) |
| 21:06 | Dyrcona | ot, but I just read something about Mt. Cleese in Palmerston North today. |
| 21:06 | * rangi | went to university there |
| 21:07 | jcamins_away | I'm sure Aquabrowser would work fine with Koha or Evergreen. |
| 21:07 | It just loads all your records and promptly loses track of them. | |
| 21:08 | cait: the Taschenbuch thing is music. | |
| 21:08 | cait | that makes sense with the joy stuff then |
| 21:08 | rangi | i quite like how all your searches for a library 140km away, go to the US and back |
| 21:08 | oh wait | |
| 21:09 | no i dont | |
| 21:09 | oleonard | Wow is that really how that works? |
| 21:09 | rangi | yup |
| 21:09 | ehis.ebscohost.com is 12 hops away from me | |
| 21:09 | somewhere in the US | |
| 21:10 | you probably get faster search results | |
| 21:10 | than someone in the library | |
| 21:10 | how many hops for you? | |
| 21:11 | maximep | could someone confirm something with me on >= 3.10 ? bug 7437 |
| 21:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7437 normal, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, In Discussion , Baskets become invisible in bookseller's list when all their items are received |
| 21:11 | maximep | are all orders shown on the basket page or only orders with items not received ? |
| 21:12 | Dyrcona | rangi: I get 6 hops. |
| 21:12 | rangi | see, thats just wrong :) |
| 21:12 | maximep: i dont know im afraid | |
| 21:12 | * oleonard | gets 9 |
| 21:13 | oleonard | I guess that helps narrow down the geography |
| 21:13 | maximep | so hard to track down because that code was completly rewritten twice last year :/ |
| 21:13 | rangi | maximep: yeah :( |
| 21:14 | maximep | having too much activity is a great problem to have :D |
| 21:15 | Dyrcona | rangi: Catalyst need to create a service like aquabrowser only better, then convince NZ libraries to use it. :) |
| 21:16 | rangi | like blacklight? or vufind? |
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| 21:17 | Dyrcona | yeah, or even better. :) |
| 21:20 | cait | maximep: on the basket page it should be all- received ones with rcvd in front |
| 21:20 | or it used to be like that... still hope it is | |
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| 21:28 | oleonard | Later #koha |
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| 21:29 | kathryn | morning :) |
| 21:29 | cait | morning kathryn |
| 21:29 | kathryn | hiya cait |
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| 23:19 | cait | noone here? |
| 23:21 | * dcook | pops his head up |
| 23:21 | dcook | Ish? |
| 23:23 | cait | ah someone here :) |
| 23:32 | mtj | hi cait, dcook - im about-ish too… :) |
| 23:33 | dcook | hi mtj :) |
| 23:33 | * cait | hands out cookies to everyone around |
| 23:34 | mtj | ive been nibbling chocolate and coffee, my parents are gonna kill me! |
| 23:35 | cait | sugar high? |
| 23:35 | :) | |
| 23:35 | mtj | yeah, then on the trampoline for 30 mins :) |
| 23:38 | cait | lol |
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