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| 02:09 | mtj | eythian, abouty? |
| 02:14 | rangi | hes off sick |
| 02:35 | mtj | heya chris, no biggie - i was gonna ping him about me building the next bunch of koha packages |
| 02:36 | rangi | ahh cool |
| 02:36 | mtj | we talked about it pre-xmas, so im following up my promise :o) |
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| 04:21 | cait | morning #koha |
| 04:26 | @wunder stuttgart | |
| 04:26 | huginn | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 04:26 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 04:26 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.1°C (5:20 AM CET on February 20, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
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| 04:31 | yesan | hello friends |
| 04:31 | i would like to generate a report on no.of catalogue records added by a staff in a given date range. can someone suggest. | |
| 04:33 | hello irma | |
| 04:33 | Irma | hi yesan |
| 04:33 | how are you doing? | |
| 04:34 | yesan | good doing fine |
| 04:34 | i have installed koha 3.8 | |
| 04:34 | Irma | :-) |
| 04:34 | yesan | i am trying to get some reports set |
| 04:34 | Irma | Koha 3.8 ...good! |
| 04:34 | yesan | if i want to generate a report on cataloging statistics. |
| 04:35 | like borrower added list of titles in a given date range. | |
| 04:35 | do you have any suggestions to modify sql script | |
| 04:35 | Irma | let me fetch a link |
| 04:36 | yesan | k |
| 04:36 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library | |
| 04:37 | Irma | that's the one |
| 04:37 | this page is not exactly up to date | |
| 04:37 | yesan | k |
| 04:37 | Irma | see some of the reports are now in Koha |
| 04:37 | cait | hi Irma :) |
| 04:37 | yesan | you mean in koha.org |
| 04:37 | Irma | hi cait :-) Long timer no speak |
| 04:37 | cait time | |
| 04:38 | yesan the koha reference is not koha-community.org | |
| 04:38 | yesan | hello cait |
| 04:39 | Irma | yesan are you a client of PTFS? |
| 04:39 | yesan if not, them only go to koha-community.org | |
| 04:39 | that is Koha | |
| 04:39 | yesan OK? | |
| 04:40 | yesan | ok |
| 04:40 | we | |
| 04:40 | we are not client of PTFS | |
| 04:41 | Irma | yesan look for what you need here and adapt as needed to your circumstances in your "build new" http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 04:41 | yesan | fine. |
| 04:43 | thank you | |
| 04:44 | Irma | yesan Creating good reports in Koha is well worth the time and effort. I always advise our clients to think clearly on what they wish to report on, in which order the information should be displayed, who the readers of the reports are etc. |
| 04:48 | cait | bbl #koha |
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| 05:55 | * cait | waves |
| 05:59 | * dcook | waves back |
| 05:59 | dcook | On the train? ;) |
| 06:13 | cait | yep:) |
| 07:17 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:20 | cait | morning magnuse :) |
| 07:21 | magnuse | hiya cait |
| 07:21 | hurtling through the german countryside? | |
| 07:22 | cait | yep |
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| 07:24 | rangi | evening |
| 07:25 | magnuse | kia ora rangi |
| 07:25 | rangi | https://docs.google.com/spread[…]2hJQ2U4S3hXX2c6MA |
| 07:26 | gonna do a talk? :) | |
| 07:29 | * magnuse | would like to |
| 07:29 | cait | you mean you will? |
| 07:29 | :) | |
| 07:30 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:30 | magnuse | i need to figure out if i will be able to make it or not... |
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| 07:39 | * magnuse | hopes to do something about bug 9256 for 3.10.4 at least... |
| 07:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 |
| 07:39 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:39 | wahanui | hi, reiveune |
| 07:39 | cait | bonjour alex_a and reiveune |
| 07:40 | rangi | yeah its totally not just the packages affected by that |
| 07:41 | reiveune | salut cait magnuse rangi :) |
| 07:41 | cait | evenng rangi |
| 07:41 | rangi | hi reiveune |
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| 08:01 | christophe_c | hello |
| 08:01 | wahanui | hello, christophe_c |
| 08:01 | christophe_c | hello wahanui |
| 08:01 | cait | hi christophe_c :) |
| 08:02 | christophe_c | hi cait ;-) |
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| 08:26 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:26 | wahanui | niihau, gaetan_B |
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| 08:35 | * dcook | trundles off to do dishes |
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| 08:37 | * cait1 | gets off the train :) |
| 08:37 | cait1 | bye all |
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| 08:41 | francharb | hello #koha |
| 08:47 | magnuse | hiya francharb |
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| 10:00 | moh | Hello guys, i need help |
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| 10:01 | vfernandes | hi :) |
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| 10:02 | moha | moh is now moha |
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| 10:04 | mohah | oh, why does it keep signing me out? |
| 10:05 | mtj | pass, sometimes the interwebs get bouncy :) |
| 10:05 | mohah | anyway, i would appreciate your help very much, i have been trying since yesterday and still no success |
| 10:05 | mtj | whats your problem moha? |
| 10:06 | mohah | I installed koha 3.8, created a new library, set it to default, created a new patron category but i can not add new patrons |
| 10:07 | i don't have the new patron tab | |
| 10:07 | mtj | the first thing i do is watch the koha error log, for errors.. |
| 10:08 | does your user have enough permissions to create a new user? | |
| 10:08 | try logging in as the koha database/superuser | |
| 10:08 | … can u add a new user then? | |
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| 10:10 | mtj | mohah, did you get my advice before? ^^ |
| 10:11 | moha | i am using the database user. created after koha-create --create-db |
| 10:11 | from the file /etc/koha/sites/sitename/koha-conf.xml | |
| 10:11 | mtj | http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]3-02-20#i_1189355 |
| 10:12 | you are logging into koha with the koha database user, yes? | |
| 10:12 | ok | |
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| 10:14 | mtj | and you click on 'patrons' from the top menu? |
| 10:14 | moh | yes |
| 10:14 | mtj | but no button for 'new patron' yes? |
| 10:14 | moh | yes |
| 10:16 | mtj | ok… you are probably missing rows in your 'categories' table |
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| 10:16 | mohah | how can i make it work? |
| 10:16 | mtj | well.. do you have any rows in your 'categories' table ? |
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| 10:18 | pastebot | "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "select categorycode, description from categories;" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/394 |
| 10:18 | mtj | mohah ^^ |
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| 10:20 | moh | checked using mysql client |
| 10:20 | i have 13 rows | |
| 10:22 | mtj | hmm, ok thats good :/ |
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| 10:24 | mtj | so, did you ever have a 'new patrons' button? ie: has it recently disappered? |
| 10:25 | … or has it never been there? | |
| 10:25 | moha | no, i created a new instance and there has not been new patron button from the beginning |
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| 10:27 | mtj | ok, thats um, a pretty weird bug :/ |
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| 10:27 | mtj | package or tarball install? |
| 10:27 | mohah | package |
| 10:27 | mtj | whats your web-browser? |
| 10:28 | mohah | firefox |
| 10:28 | mtj | tried using firefox and/or chrome? |
| 10:28 | any errors in your browser's console? | |
| 10:29 | cant find yui-button-blah file, etc... | |
| 10:29 | excuse? | |
| 10:29 | wahanui | mtj: Root nameservers are out of sync |
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| 10:30 | mo | how can i check for errors? |
| 10:30 | mtj | hmm, something a little more topical wahanui |
| 10:30 | depends on yr browser and os | |
| 10:30 | mo | firefox, ubuntu |
| 10:32 | mtj | i use firebug's console in firefox, for errors |
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| 10:32 | mtj | my 2 other suggestions are…. |
| 10:33 | 1/ drop/create a new koha db, and do a quick test re-install of a db, with all optional data | |
| 10:34 | (backup 1st , of course) | |
| 10:34 | 2/ watch (tail -f ) your apache/koha log file , for errors when hitting that 'patrons' webpage | |
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| 10:37 | mtj | curious, where in the world are you from? |
| 10:37 | (i am from new zealand) | |
| 10:38 | fyi, try reading back the #irc log - in case you missed some info -> http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]g/koha/2013-02-20 | |
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| 10:40 | moh | no errors in firebag |
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| 10:44 | mtj | moha, you could alos try using a koha 3.10 package, instead |
| 10:44 | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
| 10:44 | .. and see if that fixes your weird bug | |
| 10:45 | (the debian packages work for ubuntu, i think?) | |
| 10:45 | ok, and now i have to go… :/ | |
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| 10:48 | moha | hi mtj, i am doing a reinstall |
| 10:48 | i will let you know | |
| 10:49 | thanks for the help | |
| 10:49 | mtj | cool, try the 3.10 package too :) |
| 10:50 | Current Stable Version | |
| 10:50 | To get the old stable 3.10 release, add this to a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list file: | |
| 10:50 | wahanui | Current Stable Version is, like, 3.4.2 |
| 10:50 | mtj | deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main |
| 10:50 | Current Stable Version is 3.10.2 | |
| 10:51 | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
| 10:51 | ^^ | |
| 10:51 | moha | okay, i had installed what i found on the repository. i will try 3.10 |
| 10:53 | i meant to say oldstable | |
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| 11:22 | slef | approved 1 comment from oleonard |
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| 12:00 | moh | hello mtj |
| 12:00 | slef | query koha-remove |
| 12:00 | @query koha-remove | |
| 12:00 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-remove needs a --force switch |
| 12:00 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4875 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , koha-remove, koha-restore should have options similar to --request-db | |
| 12:00 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4880 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , koha-remove sometimes fails because user is logged int | |
| 12:00 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6416 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , koha-remove fails when dropping user | |
| 12:01 | moh | now i have error messages on both opac and intranet logs |
| 12:01 | koha_csc.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm | |
| 12:02 | slef | moh: can you see koha_csc.systempreferences in mysql?? |
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| 12:16 | moh | slef: yes i have that table |
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| 12:24 | moh | i need help on koha, please |
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| 12:25 | moha | The installation says 'Success' on the browser but on the logs: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'koha_csc.language_descriptions' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Languages.pm line 354. |
| 12:26 | I have checked that the the table exists | |
| 12:28 | slef | moha: are you connecting to mysql as the user shown in your koha-conf.xml? |
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| 12:29 | moh | slef: yes, i am using that user |
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| 12:32 | slef | moh: then I do not understand why koha cannot see those tables. Look for more log messages. |
| 12:34 | liw | is koha using the right database? |
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| 12:44 | moha | hi liw: how do i check that? |
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| 13:03 | Starting build #23 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: STILL FAILING) | |
| 13:03 | Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #23: SUCCESS in 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Docs_3.8.x/23/ | |
| 13:03 | Nicole C. Engard: capitalize Z in Z39.50 where relevant | |
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| 13:03 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #291 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 9 mo 28 days ago) |
| 13:03 | Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #23: STILL FAILING in 27 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Docs_3.10.x/23/ | |
| 13:03 | Nicole C. Engard: capitalize Z in Z39.50 where relevant | |
| 13:04 | Project Koha_Docs build #291: STILL FAILING in 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/291/ | |
| 13:04 | Nicole C. Engard: capitalize Z in Z39.50 where relevant | |
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| 13:09 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 13:09 | jcamins | Isn't running misc/cronjobs/fines.pl supposed to do something? |
| 13:10 | oleonard | Fill you with a sense of vengeful power? |
| 13:10 | jcamins | I was more thinking "update the database with fines." |
| 13:12 | On my development server I get a nice CSV file listing all the fines, and no database changes. | |
| 13:12 | Oh! | |
| 13:12 | finesmode. | |
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| 13:20 | jcamins | oleonard: when you view the basket group page, does the button at the bottom get cut off by the language selector bar? |
| 13:21 | oleonard | jcamins: 9420 introduced a padding problem with the <body> tag when the language bar is present |
| 13:21 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 13:21 | So, yes, and I'm a bit late to the game on this one. | |
| 13:22 | oleonard | I incorporated a fix into one of the patches I submitted yesterday |
| 13:22 | jcamins | Excellent! |
| 13:23 | oleonard | Bug 9617 |
| 13:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9617 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI menu on catalog pages with Bootstrap |
| 13:23 | oleonard | I shouldn't have put it in the hard one :) |
| 13:23 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 13:23 | oleonard | (hard to test, that is, if you want to be thorough) |
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| 13:29 | jcamins | I like all these easily-tested patches. |
| 13:31 | ... so much for easily tested patches. | |
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| 13:46 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9615' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f3de13888580000ea> / Bug 9615 - Combine staff home page images into single sprite <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]621338f74145635f3> / Merge branch 'bug_9625' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…];a=commitdiff;h=9 |
| 13:47 | oleonard | Configuring one's editor to garishly highlight trailing spaces makes editing Koha code a colorful operation. |
| 13:47 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 13:48 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1056 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 14:11 | jcamins | oleonard: http://screencast.com/t/N9IsnB0t <-- the tabs are higher than the part of the page with the vendor's information |
| 14:13 | Oh, who signed off on bug 8913? | |
| 14:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8913 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Improve acquisitions navigation |
| 14:15 | oleonard | Your screenshot looks consistent with the way things look elsewhere: http://screencast.com/t/nnnLOUmEHi |
| 14:16 | jcamins | Good point. |
| 14:16 | Now that you mention it, the only place the tabs look right is on the patron pages. | |
| 14:18 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8347' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3b445c08da3a60431> / Bug 8347: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2630cbfac7bc9739f> / Bug 8347 - Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]commitdiff;h=93ba |
| 14:19 | tcohen | jcamins: i attached the patch for bug 9634 i was working yesterday |
| 14:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Allow for parameters re-use on SQL reports |
| 14:19 | tcohen | no, i meant bug 9659 |
| 14:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9659 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports |
| 14:20 | jcamins | Excellent! |
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| 14:22 | tcohen | talking wiht oleonard about it, some doubts arised thou |
| 14:22 | jcamins | I am sure you can figure out the best way to do it. :) |
| 14:22 | tcohen | should we also warn the user on saving about non-existent auth values? |
| 14:24 | jcamins | Up to you. |
| 14:24 | tcohen | :-P |
| 14:24 | jcamins | I mostly only have opinions on A) things my clients use, B) things that are very central to the system, and C) things that I use. |
| 14:25 | tcohen | ok |
| 14:25 | oleonard | It is a difficult workflow problem. Should we allow the user to save a report with a non-existent authorized value on the assumption that they will create one later? Or should we force them to leave reports creation and create their authorized value first? |
| 14:26 | In one case we trust that they will do something we're not requiring they do. In the other case we force them to abandon something they may have worked on. | |
| 14:26 | I think we have to default to trusting them rather than defaulting to making them mad. | |
| 14:27 | tcohen | a "Save anyway?" dialog? |
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| 14:29 | alohabot | Hi mib_xe8uly, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 14:29 | oleonard | tcohen: Yes |
| 14:32 | gerundio | vfernandes, just got the good news, patch for bug 8347 has been pushed to master :) |
| 14:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8347 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' |
| 14:32 | vfernandes | nice :) |
| 14:32 | bug 9145 too... | |
| 14:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9145 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Authorities: standard language for UNIMARC |
| 14:33 | vfernandes | records and authorities fileld 100 should now work fine for UNIMARC :) |
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| 14:55 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1056: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1056/ |
| 14:55 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9651 - When deleting a fund, button is wrongly labelled with 'Delete this budget' | |
| 14:55 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8079 - opac not showing fines - says 'no' | |
| 14:55 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9582: Remove unused code from members/pay.pl | |
| 14:55 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9655 - Capitalization wrong on 'Close and Print' button in basket groups | |
| 14:55 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9658: Incorrect breadcrumb on report dictionary | |
| 14:55 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 9455: Remove unnecessary quoting from sql | |
| 14:55 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9650 - Show message if there are no notices | |
| 14:55 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9625 - Replace YUI buttons and menus on reports pages with Bootstrap | |
| 14:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9651 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , When deleting a fund, button is wrongly labelled with 'Delete this budget' |
| 14:55 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8079 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , opac not showing fines - says 'no' | |
| 14:55 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9615 - Combine staff home page images into single sprite |
| 14:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9582 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Unused code in members/pay.pl |
| 14:56 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9655 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Capitalization wrong on 'Close and Print' button in basket groups | |
| 14:56 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9658 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Breadcrumb wrong on reports dictionary | |
| 14:56 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9455 trivial, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Embedded mysql quotes in sql string | |
| 14:56 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9650 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Show message if there are no notices | |
| 14:56 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9625 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons and menus on reports pages with Bootstrap | |
| 14:56 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9615 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Combine staff home page images into single sprite | |
| 14:57 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1057 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 14:58 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9662' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1f48dbacdf6a29892> / Bug 9662: Followup for acquisition <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]92cf47c6d0b15064d> / Bug 9662 - ISSN search field not passed to Z3950Search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f;h=8abe29b2530de |
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| 15:04 | magnuse | dbic++ |
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| 15:39 | tcohen | is anyone working on refactoring/rewriting reports already? |
| 15:39 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 15:39 | tcohen | thx |
| 15:40 | atz | the impediment to rewiring (unkludging) reports is that you will inevitably break something for somebody who already has reports |
| 15:40 | tcohen | i need to reuse some code for that bug, and will end up writing some methods |
| 15:40 | oleonard | Hi atz, long time no see |
| 15:40 | atz | indeed, it has been |
| 15:41 | nice to see a lot of the old-timers are still around | |
| 15:41 | :) | |
| 15:42 | oleonard | We've got more an more lurkers these days too |
| 15:42 | * oleonard | waves to the lurkers |
| 15:42 | atz | what is the status of github vs. git.koha-community.org ? is one a mirror of the other or is there crossflow? |
| 15:43 | jcamins | atz: the github repo mirrors git.k-c.org. |
| 15:44 | atz | ok, thx |
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| 15:59 | atz | i've gotten used to the pretty github interface for almost everything... |
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| 16:03 | * Vitor FERNANDES: BUG 9145: Authorities: standard language for UNIMARC | |
| 16:03 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9145: Increment version number | |
| 16:03 | * Vitor FERNANDES: Bug 8347 - Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' | |
| 16:03 | * Vitor FERNANDES: Bug 8347 - Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' | |
| 16:03 | * Vitor FERNANDES: Bug 8347 - Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' | |
| 16:03 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 8347: Increment version number | |
| 16:04 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 8913 [Revised] Improve acquisitions navigation | |
| 16:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9145 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Authorities: standard language for UNIMARC |
| 16:04 | jenkins_koha | * Julian Maurice: Bug 5888: opac-detail subject/author links improvements |
| 16:04 | * Julian Maurice: Bug 5888: Fix building of query in authors links | |
| 16:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8347 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' |
| 16:04 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5888: Followup add a syspref (OPACPopupAuthorsSearch) |
| 16:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8913 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Improve acquisitions navigation |
| 16:04 | jenkins_koha | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5888: Add label for each entry in the authors list |
| 16:04 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 5888: Followup for preference description | |
| 16:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5888 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , opac-detail subject/author links improvements |
| 16:04 | jenkins_koha | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5888: Increment version number |
| 16:04 | * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 9662 - ISSN search field not passed to Z3950Search | |
| 16:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9662 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , z3950_search.pl ISSN search field not passed to Z3950Search |
| 16:04 | jenkins_koha | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9662: Followup for acquisition |
| 16:04 | Starting build #1058 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1056 2 hr 16 min ago) | |
| 16:04 | atz | hey, automated build stuff... gotta like that! |
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| 16:08 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:22 | oleonard | Poor alohabot, has that intro worked ever? |
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| 16:25 | maximep | nytprof is just amazing |
| 16:25 | having fun profiling why it's taking 120 minutes to run the fines cronjob -_- | |
| 16:25 | *80 minutes | |
| 16:26 | turns out calculating fines for stuff due in 1992 takes a long time :p | |
| 16:27 | magnuse | a lot of days to count... |
| 16:27 | maximep | yep |
| 16:27 | thousands of call to is_holiday | |
| 16:27 | fun fun fun | |
| 16:28 | magnuse | ouch! |
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| 16:36 | oleonard | How much does everyone love the "loading" overlay on the MARC editor? Lots? |
| 16:36 | * oleonard | grumbles |
| 16:38 | oleonard | Is such functionality not built into jqueryui, bootstrap, or YUI because everyone uses blockUI already? |
| 16:44 | maximep | i didnt even know about blockui |
| 16:44 | useful | |
| 16:48 | jcamins | maximep: you don't ever mark things lost? |
| 16:48 | oleonard: how can loading functionality not be available in jqueryui or bootstrap? | |
| 16:48 | That's absurd! | |
| 16:49 | oleonard | jcamins: I mean built-in options to the modal dialog widget to create a full-page blocking overlay to prevent interaction |
| 16:51 | jcamins | Yeah, and I still think it's absurd that it's not available. |
| 16:51 | It's not like that is an unusual thing to want to do. | |
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| 16:57 | oleonard | I guess it's simple enough to do from scratch |
| 16:57 | maximep | jcamins: that particular instance doesn't. Pretty sure the others do. Strongly recommended that they at least do a cleanup, if they dont want to activate the lost function |
| 16:58 | jcamins | maximep: yeah, seems like a good idea. |
| 16:59 | * cait | waves |
| 16:59 | cait | oleonard: i found a bug |
| 17:00 | in the list view you can add single items to your cart, ut not all! | |
| 17:00 | heh | |
| 17:00 | * cait | is on the train now after spending a day with a school ibrary |
| 17:00 | cait | it was very interesting |
| 17:01 | * not_oleonard | suspects his ruse hasn't worked |
| 17:01 | cait | nope, I am not THAT tired that I don't know you :) |
| 17:02 | oleonard | cait: OPAC or staff client? |
| 17:02 | cait | also callnumbers on the list view is a big wishlist item |
| 17:02 | opac | |
| 17:02 | I can file a bug tomorrow, I still have to make sense of all my notes and what I heard today | |
| 17:02 | oleonard | Call numbers on on the list view in the OPAC |
| 17:03 | on on -> *are* on | |
| 17:03 | Oh I see, there isn't an "add to cart" link at the top of a list view you mean? | |
| 17:04 | cait | oh,no I think that was staff... actually not sure |
| 17:04 | they wanted to be able to create a list easily | |
| 17:04 | with callnumbers | |
| 17:04 | but the cart thing was on opac | |
| 17:04 | my idea was to just add all the items from the list to the cart, because the callnumber shows there | |
| 17:04 | that's why I noticed oyu can't bulk add there to the cart | |
| 17:04 | yep | |
| 17:05 | but on each individual entry there is | |
| 17:05 | probably not really a bug.... strictly speaking | |
| 17:05 | :) | |
| 17:06 | sorry if I am making no sense... I just talked a lot today | |
| 17:06 | :) | |
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| 17:14 | cait | trains... |
| 17:14 | wahanui | trains are easy peasy |
| 17:14 | cait | thank you wahanui |
| 17:15 | oleonard: hope I didn't scare you away? jcamins? | |
| 17:16 | * oleonard | is still here |
| 17:16 | cait | oh good :) |
| 17:16 | jcamins | Yes? |
| 17:17 | cait | jcamins: is there something that needs to be QAd urgently? |
| 17:18 | oleonard | Call numbers show in the staff client list view, but it's done in a nonsensical way |
| 17:18 | jcamins | Bug 6030 |
| 17:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6030 critical, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Signed Off , Allow for html in letters in overdue notices |
| 17:18 | cait | oleonard: sorry, I did confuse you - i was talking about the cart - you can't do select all > add to cart |
| 17:18 | and it's not a bug, only a feature request and I will just try to make a bug in bugzilla tomorrow | |
| 17:19 | oleonard | From the lists view. Yes, I understand. But if you're adding items to the cart so that you can see the call number isn't the real bug about the list view? |
| 17:19 | cait | oh and good hint about the callnumbers |
| 17:20 | probably, but you can't print the list | |
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| 17:33 | Nicole C. Engard: add serial item image | |
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| 17:33 | Nicole C. Engard: add serial item image | |
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| 17:34 | Nicole C. Engard: add serial item image | |
| 17:38 | rangi | holy crap |
| 17:39 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]-threatens-houses | |
| 17:39 | oleonard | Whoa |
| 17:39 | rangi | thats near the kids school |
| 17:40 | if you pan left the school is there | |
| 17:40 | bag | damn |
| 17:44 | cait | oh no |
| 17:45 | jcamins | Yikes! |
| 17:46 | cait | 2-3 days! |
| 17:47 | rangi | theres currently 3 helicopters flying over the house with monsoon buckets |
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| 17:53 | mib_7j1otm | I just finished installing Koha 3.08.02 on Ubuntu server 12.04; everything works except SIP2; probelm is that socket opens a TCP6 instead on TCP4; is this a known probelm with this version or there is something wring wih my installation? thanks |
| 17:54 | jcamins | mib_7j1otm: sounds like a problem with your configuration, but I don't know enough about troubleshooting SIP2 to tell you where to look for the problem. |
| 17:54 | Also, why 3.8.2? | |
| 17:54 | There were important security fixes in 3.8.6. | |
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| 17:57 | mib_7j1otm | just tried 3.10 and could not get it running then I switched to 3.8.2, just didn't know about 3.8.6 |
| 18:01 | oleonard | mib_7j1otm: What method are you using to install Koha? Packages? tarball? |
| 18:02 | jcamins | mib_7j1otm: the current 3.8.x version is 3.8.9, which would be even better to use than 3.8.6. |
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| 18:08 | mib_7j1otm | I used tarball |
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| 18:11 | mib_7j1otm | The problem with sip2 using TCP6 instead of TCP4 is also mentioned here : http://osdir.com/ml/debian-bug[…]-08/msg00548.html |
| 18:12 | atz | that probably is just a new default behavior for Net::Server |
| 18:12 | jcamins | That is a very old bug on an unrelated project. |
| 18:13 | atz | here: http://search.cpan.org/~rhando[…]pod#SOCKET_ACCESS |
| 18:14 | "NOTE: beginning in Net::Server 2.005, the default value......" | |
| 18:14 | "You can force IPv4 only by adding an ipv => 4" | |
| 18:15 | so try adding that to the run() call | |
| 18:17 | or you could try to downgrade Net::Server below 2.005 | |
| 18:19 | mib_7j1otm | I will try this and let you know thanks |
| 18:20 | rangi | 3.8.9 is out ... where did you manage to get 3.8.2 from without seeing 3.8.9 just want to know so others dont make the same mistake |
| 18:22 | mib_7j1otm | Got it last week, downloaded from community by version number. |
| 18:23 | jcamins | Why were you looking for 3.8.2? |
| 18:23 | The downloads page lists the current version of 3.8.x. | |
| 18:31 | rangi | good old mibbit |
| 18:32 | magnuse | yeah! |
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| 18:43 | maximep | anyone has an idea of why is intranetuserjs in the header ? Wouldn't it make more sense to have it at the bottom of the footer, to be executed last ? |
| 18:43 | jcamins | maximep: I don't know, but I would think it would, yes. |
| 18:44 | maximep | trying to do stuff in javascript for once instead of doing it directly in the templates =) |
| 18:45 | I could send a patch, but it would probably break some userjs :/ | |
| 18:45 | cait | hm shouldn't it work the same? |
| 18:46 | maximep | it executes the document ready in the order you give them |
| 18:46 | cait | brb |
| 18:47 | magnuse | create a new syspref called intranetuserjslast? |
| 18:47 | oleonard | More than just intranetuserjs could be moved to the footer |
| 18:49 | atz | oleonard: .... for *most* operations, but not all (in all browsers) |
| 18:50 | maximep | you mean the other js ? |
| 18:51 | atz | for example, request to webservices providing webfonts. IE (8/9) needs those in <head>. |
| 18:51 | there are numerous other gotchas like that | |
| 18:51 | maximep | sure |
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| 19:01 | maximep | was there ever a discussion about just doing a mega patch reformating all the code to be spaces instead of tabs ? |
| 19:02 | or better, just reformat everything following the coding style in the wiki | |
| 19:03 | jcamins | maximep: yes, and we're not doing it. It loses too much history. |
| 19:03 | maximep | ah, i see |
| 19:03 | too bad we didnt do it when we moved to tt :/ | |
| 19:03 | rangi | but i love it when people fix the formatting of whatever they are touching |
| 19:04 | maximep: that actually only touched a very small amount of perl | |
| 19:04 | jcamins | maximep: the problem is that the style guidelines are more about Perl than the templates, and the TT transition involved ve... yes, exactly. |
| 19:04 | maximep | ah, good point |
| 19:05 | rangi | actually bgkriegel has been good about fix tabs etc when he signs off |
| 19:05 | the koha-qa tools will catch any stuff that is wrong in the commit | |
| 19:05 | jcamins | Yeah, bgkriegel's doing amazing signoffs. |
| 19:05 | bgkriegel++ | |
| 19:06 | rangi | often a commit moves something a line down and then the qa tools notice hey that line has tabs |
| 19:06 | maximep | nice |
| 19:06 | rangi | so the person writing the patch gets blamed hehe, but blame doesnt really matter if it means the tab is fixed :) |
| 19:07 | maximep | id rather have my patch rejected multiple times because of style |
| 19:07 | than doing something wrong | |
| 19:07 | rangi | exactly |
| 19:07 | * oleonard | has a pre-commit hook that checks for whitespace problems in changed lines |
| 19:07 | rangi | actually i learnt a trick |
| 19:08 | which would mean we could do a mass tidy | |
| 19:08 | maximep | I turn off all my whitespace and tidy stuff when I work in koha :/ |
| 19:09 | whitespace merge conflicts are the worst | |
| 19:09 | jcamins | Whitespace merge conflicts? |
| 19:09 | wahanui | Whitespace merge conflicts are the worst |
| 19:09 | maximep | :p |
| 19:09 | rangi | -w |
| 19:10 | git blame -w | |
| 19:10 | ignore whitespace changes .. et viola we dont lose history | |
| 19:10 | maximep | that includes tabs to spaces ? |
| 19:10 | jcamins | Awesome! |
| 19:10 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, jcamins |
| 19:10 | rangi | yep |
| 19:10 | lemme just test | |
| 19:11 | maximep | I should just add -w to everything |
| 19:11 | git merge -w would fix my merge conflicts | |
| 19:11 | rangi | git blame |
| 19:11 | wahanui | git blame is, like, handy, but it's just one tool in our debugging arsenal |
| 19:12 | rangi | 28d9f13c (Chris Cormack 2013-02-21 08:11:33 +1300 1) #!/usr/bin/perl |
| 19:12 | git blame -w | |
| 19:12 | 13f6840c (rych 2007-03-09 20:33:59 +0000 1) #!/usr/bin/perl | |
| 19:13 | that was a trailing tab, then a tab to a space | |
| 19:13 | so yep | |
| 19:13 | we could totally perltidy a file (as a sep commit) | |
| 19:14 | and would ignore whitepace | |
| 19:14 | lemme try on that whole file | |
| 19:15 | yeah that worked a treat | |
| 19:16 | so thats a possibility if someone wants to write up a plan ill vote yes for it in the next meeting | |
| 19:19 | maximep | cool |
| 19:19 | * maximep | hates to be the guy that really wants it but has no time to do it |
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| 19:43 | drojf | good evening #koha |
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| 19:48 | * cait | waves from home |
| 19:52 | drojf | hi cait |
| 19:52 | came to tell you to go and study, but remembered you were on a trip when i did not see you here ;) | |
| 19:52 | cait | hi drojf |
| 19:52 | heh | |
| 19:52 | I finished last night | |
| 19:52 | drojf | cool |
| 19:53 | cait | exam on march 2nd |
| 19:53 | well the written one for that course | |
| 19:54 | drojf | good luck for that :) |
| 20:10 | rangi | back |
| 20:10 | drojf | hi rangi |
| 20:13 | rangi | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]st-a-ring-of-fire <-- good work those firefighters 20-50 houses saved |
| 20:13 | jcamins | What did C4 stand for originally? |
| 20:13 | drojf | there is a talk about that ;) |
| 20:14 | jcamins | Yes, but I've forgotten and that would require watching a video. |
| 20:14 | rangi | who did that talk? |
| 20:14 | C4? | |
| 20:14 | wahanui | hmmm... C4 is a high explosive :-) or "Cheap & Cheerful Copy of (the ILS program HLT used to use)" |
| 20:14 | drojf | something something cheerful version of $system_beginning_with_c. sorry, not too much that i remember |
| 20:14 | ah | |
| 20:14 | :) | |
| 20:14 | jcamins | rangi: I presumed since drojf said that that _you_ did the talk. |
| 20:15 | The excellent history of Koha talk. | |
| 20:15 | rangi | i might have and forgotten about it :) |
| 20:15 | Dyrcona | Carl? |
| 20:15 | rangi | http://www.accessmylibrary.com[…]aphical-user.html |
| 20:15 | that | |
| 20:16 | C2 | |
| 20:16 | C4 was gonna be twice as good | |
| 20:16 | or explode | |
| 20:16 | i couldnt decide which | |
| 20:16 | jcamins | lol |
| 20:16 | rangi | when we started writing an ils for a deadline in 3 months |
| 20:17 | drojf | i think it was http://blip.tv/the-curious-and[…]lie-blake-4367524 |
| 20:17 | rangi | ah yep |
| 20:17 | drojf | heh. "version of". yeah right, starts with a big "c". sorry, have been studying all day, brain is off |
| 20:17 | rangi | http://archive.org/details/Kohacon09Keynote <-- probably there too |
| 20:23 | !jenkins build koha_master now | |
| 20:23 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now |
| 20:23 | rangi | heh |
| 20:24 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1059 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1056 6 hr 35 min ago) |
| 20:24 | oleonard | Neat. If you try to view source on authorities/authorities.pl in Firefox or Chrome you'll crash the browser. |
| 20:24 | jcamins | Really? |
| 20:24 | rangi | too big? |
| 20:24 | * jcamins | tries |
| 20:25 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 20:25 | oleonard | Not on fire I take it wizzyrea? |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea | nope, not so near my house |
| 20:28 | cait | wizzyrea: good. |
| 20:29 | jcamins | oleonard: didn't crash for me, though loading the source took a long time. |
| 20:29 | oleonard | I tried again but then gave up |
| 20:29 | * oleonard | sounds like a mailing list email! |
| 20:30 | rangi | heh |
| 20:30 | cait | heh |
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| 20:39 | rangi | i wonder what i was actually planning to do today |
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| 20:40 | cait | hm you wanted to... |
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| 20:40 | jcamins | Do we really not have a way to disable lists on the OPAC only? |
| 20:40 | cait | add some reall ycool features? |
| 20:41 | oleonard | jcamins: No |
| 20:41 | jcamins | I see the virtualshelves syspref, but that seems to be for staff client and OPAC. |
| 20:41 | Wait... | |
| 20:41 | it has no impact on the intranet. | |
| 20:41 | cait | yep |
| 20:41 | rangi | jcamins: oh yeah i meant to ask, the persona thing, could it be differing emails? if so I need to do a follow up to handle that nicer |
| 20:42 | jcamins | rangi: I tried it with both my e-mail addresses, which are associated with two different accounts, and in neither case did it log me in. |
| 20:43 | rangi | hmm weird |
| 20:43 | if you view source the bottom of the page should have the email address set in it (in the js) | |
| 20:43 | cait | so borrowers.email = personaemail? |
| 20:44 | rangi | but either way i need to make it handle valid persona, invalid koha, better |
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| 21:17 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | byeee |
| 21:17 | gr too slow | |
| 21:30 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 21:30 | Project Koha_master build #1059: FIXED in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1059/ | |
| 21:32 | rangi | hmm my brain has the dumb |
| 21:33 | cait | mine too |
| 21:39 | rangi | i do like that you are logged in as the db admin |
| 21:40 | jcamins | Someone sent a message to the list reporting that as a bug. |
| 21:40 | I found that amusing. | |
| 21:40 | rangi | lol |
| 21:45 | magnuse | dpavlin is coming to marseille too? cool! |
| 21:48 | rangi | yeah that is golded jcamins |
| 21:48 | golden too | |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | i laughed at that email too |
| 21:52 | magnuse | which one? |
| 21:52 | wahanui | which one is the "native" files? |
| 21:52 | magnuse | wahanui: forget which one |
| 21:52 | wahanui | magnuse: I forgot which one |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | the worst thing was that every time you went to issue something, it would ask you to set your library then dump you back to wherever you started instead of where you were going |
| 21:52 | re: the db admin user | |
| 21:52 | at least that's the thing that annoys me the most | |
| 21:53 | much nicer to just have a separate user. | |
| 21:57 | rangi | ok, stopped the looping |
| 21:57 | now just to get it to do a nice error message | |
| 22:07 | cait | night all :) |
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| 22:27 | rangi | hmm whats the trick we do with the _ we do in js? |
| 22:28 | jcamins | _("Text for translation") |
| 22:28 | rangi | perfect |
| 22:30 | yay now we get | |
| 22:30 | Could not login, perhaps your persona email does not match your borrower one | |
| 22:30 | ill change borrower to Koha | |
| 22:31 | but now it traps the error and gives you an alert and stops the redirect loop | |
| 22:31 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 22:31 | does it check all of the email fields? | |
| 22:32 | rangi | only primary at this stage |
| 22:32 | wizzyrea | cool |
| 22:32 | we don't force emails to be unique do we | |
| 22:32 | rangi | im not sure if we do |
| 22:32 | probably not | |
| 22:33 | you'll get the first match in that case | |
| 22:33 | wizzyrea | what happens if you have a parent who has a kid, and the parent put their email on the kid's account |
| 22:33 | ah ok | |
| 22:33 | or husband and wife pair, often the elderly do this | |
| 22:34 | rangi | yep, theyd have to login the old fashioned way |
| 22:34 | wizzyrea | cool |
| 22:34 | i guess the answer to the first question is, you can't accidentally get into the wrong account using persona, can you? | |
| 22:35 | rangi | only if that person has the email address you are logging into persona with |
| 22:35 | so yes if you got into someones account set the email to yours | |
| 22:35 | then you could login to theirs | |
| 22:35 | but since you were already in there before that | |
| 22:35 | wizzyrea | or the library staff were |
| 22:35 | rangi | yep |
| 22:36 | if library staff go round assiging your email to the wrong ppl | |
| 22:36 | wizzyrea | or multiple people |
| 22:36 | rangi | yep |
| 22:36 | itd have to be the one that you have access to | |
| 22:36 | ie persona verifies your email | |
| 22:36 | and youd be getting all their overdue emails etc too | |
| 22:37 | wizzyrea | right of course. |
| 22:37 | rangi | so, short answer persona wont protect you from crazy library staff :) |
| 22:37 | wizzyrea | ok hear me out - maybe a patron should be able to select the email field to use for persona |
| 22:37 | rangi | yep thats a possible future enhancement |
| 22:38 | wizzyrea | because it might be different from the one they want to receive notices from |
| 22:38 | anyway yes, probably a future enhancement | |
| 22:38 | rangi | (you can associate multiple emails addesses to your persona account) |
| 22:38 | and pick the one you want to login to koha with | |
| 22:38 | wizzyrea | ohhhh cool. |
| 22:38 | i really ought to get one of those:P | |
| 22:38 | rangi | thats what i was just fixing |
| 22:39 | handling when you login to persona with an email not in koha :) | |
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| 22:40 | jcamins | wizzyrea: just make sure not to forget your password. |
| 22:40 | wizzyrea | you mean persona? |
| 22:40 | drojf | rangi: what is it supposed to do in the last case? |
| 22:41 | rangi | now its just going to not loop continuously trying to log you in |
| 22:41 | but instead gives you a nice message saying | |
| 22:41 | Couldn't log you in, perhaps your emails don't match (or words to taht effect) | |
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| 22:42 | rgbv | hi all |
| 22:43 | wizzyrea | hi |
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| 22:43 | drojf | rangi: ah, alright then. i was wondering if some magic was supposed to happen to still log in. i was just thinking how that will work with the email encryption if the address is not in koha *looks at "unfinished projects i got no time for"-pile* |
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| 22:44 | rangi | :) |
| 22:45 | nope if it doesnt match, you have to either login with one that does, or do it the old way | |
| 22:45 | jatara | Got a quick question...I was wondering if there was any reason not to use batch delete with weeding items as opposing to withdrawing books? |
| 22:45 | rgbv | I've noticed some weird behavior in koha since upgrading the server this morning |
| 22:45 | rangi | hmm? |
| 22:45 | wizzyrea | jatara- that is entirely a matter of library policy |
| 22:45 | there is no technical reason to do it one way or the other | |
| 22:46 | drojf | rgbv: what does it do? |
| 22:46 | or, not do? | |
| 22:46 | jatara | What are the pros and cons of either option? |
| 22:47 | wizzyrea | withdrawn items will still show in the catalog, deleted ones won't |
| 22:47 | you can easily restore a withdrawn item | |
| 22:47 | deleted ones are harder. | |
| 22:47 | (easier to just re--add it ) | |
| 22:48 | you can do reports on both, so that's not an issue | |
| 22:48 | rgbv | opac searches are not resolving ' that are pasted in they give this: ../opac-search.pl?idx=&q=Mother’s which gives a nasty error page rather than ../opac-search.pl?q=Mother's |
| 22:48 | jatara | you can do a report on deleted items? how? |
| 22:48 | jcamins | rgbv: is it telling you that it can't load a module? |
| 22:48 | wizzyrea | select (stuff) from deleteditems |
| 22:48 | schema | |
| 22:48 | schema? | |
| 22:48 | wahanui | schema is tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org |
| 22:49 | wizzyrea | http://schema.koha-community.o[…]les/deletedbiblio |
| 22:49 | rgbv | it gives this error: Technical Information (for support personnel) Error Code: 500 Internal Server Error. The request was rejected by the HTTP filter. Contact the server administrator. (12217) |
| 22:49 | wizzyrea | http://schema.koha-community.o[…]deleteditems.html |
| 22:50 | jatara | i didn't know you could run a report on deleted items, so even when "deleted," they're not good for good? |
| 22:50 | rangi | rgbv: that doesn't sound like a Koha error, is there a proxy between you and Koha? |
| 22:50 | drojf | rgbv: are you the server administrator? |
| 22:50 | jatara | gone for good |
| 22:50 | rangi | rgbv: and what version of koha is it? |
| 22:51 | wizzyrea | I think it doesn't keep every little thing |
| 22:51 | but there's nowhere in the interface to view deleted items | |
| 22:51 | rangi | it keeps the full record, and there used to be an interface |
| 22:51 | it got killed version 3.0 | |
| 22:51 | wizzyrea | (anymore) |
| 22:51 | rangi | by the demonspawn |
| 22:51 | * wizzyrea | sighs |
| 22:51 | rangi | ill resurrect it one day |
| 22:51 | rgbv | 3.06.07.000 @ waitaki for better or worse I administer the server |
| 22:52 | rangi | ahh hey chris |
| 22:52 | that sounds like the proxy between you and koha throwing that error | |
| 22:53 | the cause is the lovely microsoft ’ vs ' | |
| 22:53 | you could look at the the error logs in | |
| 22:53 | jatara | are there any reasons why a library would prefer a withdraw over a batch delete? |
| 22:53 | wizzyrea | heh, I can't answer that for you |
| 22:53 | rangi | /var/log/koha/waitaki/ |
| 22:53 | wizzyrea | @quote get 123 |
| 22:53 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 22:53 | wahanui | http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 22:53 | jcamins | jatara: yes, it offers a better way of tracking popularity. |
| 22:54 | rgbv | hi Chris :), cheers I'll look at the log |
| 22:54 | jatara | how so? |
| 22:54 | wizzyrea | ...if you are using that |
| 22:54 | jcamins | Patrons can see "okay, they used to have fifteen copies, now they have five... I guess this is the best-seller from fifteen years ago." |
| 22:55 | wizzyrea | i have never once heard a patron say anything like that |
| 22:55 | jcamins | wizzyrea: nor have I. |
| 22:55 | wizzyrea | more likely they would say "why do you list 15 items if you only have 5" |
| 22:55 | jcamins | wizzyrea: but that is why my college library listed withdrawn items. |
| 22:55 | wizzyrea | well that is insane. |
| 22:55 | sorry. mad scheme. | |
| 22:55 | jcamins | Your point? :P |
| 22:56 | dcook | rangi: Is the persona concept similar or the same to openID? A friend of mine mentioned it as a viable possibility yesterday. I'm not super knowledgeable about authentication, but she couldn't seem to think of why openID wouldn't work with Koha |
| 22:56 | jcamins | dcook: very similar, except with less XSS. |
| 22:56 | rangi | rgbv: from what i can tell its not reaching the koha server being blocked by IIS before it can get there |
| 22:56 | but the logs would confirm that guess | |
| 22:57 | jcamins | At least, I think that was what the Persona site said. |
| 22:57 | jatara | so if an item is deleted via batch delete, we still keep a record of it (sorta), but that record is not easily retrieved, corect? |
| 22:57 | dcook | hehe |
| 22:57 | wizzyrea | right |
| 22:57 | jcamins | Right. |
| 22:57 | dcook | jcamins: I've always been skeptical of openID (although I didn't know it as openID at the time), although I suppose it's always difficult to gauge the reliability of the message of a competing technology |
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| 22:58 | drojf | good night #koha |
| 22:58 | jatara | so when an item is "deleted" are there any aspects of that record that are permanently gone? |
| 22:59 | rgbv | rangi: what do I need to look for in the logs? (I have'nt much xp with them) |
| 22:59 | jcamins | Date last edited, maybe. |
| 22:59 | rangi | rgbv: ahh its definitely not getting to koha |
| 22:59 | wizzyrea | I'm not sure about that |
| 22:59 | rangi | rgbv: run |
| 22:59 | jcamins | But actually, I'm not even sure it gets replaced by the deleted date. |
| 22:59 | rangi | tail -f /var/log/koha/waitaki/opac-access.log |
| 22:59 | jcamins | Other than that, everything stays. |
| 22:59 | rangi | and then hit the page |
| 22:59 | http://www.library.waitaki.gov[…]=Mother%E2%80%99s | |
| 23:00 | you will notice nothing gets to koha | |
| 23:00 | if you hit http://www.library.waitaki.gov[…]h.pl?q=Mother%27s | |
| 23:00 | otoh | |
| 23:00 | you will see entries appear in the log | |
| 23:00 | wizzyrea | http://www.library.waitaki.gov[…]rch.pl?q=Mother's |
| 23:00 | works for me ^.^ | |
| 23:00 | jcamins | rangi: ... IIS can't handle apostrophes? |
| 23:01 | rangi | jcamins: only windows ones it appears |
| 23:01 | wizzyrea | can't handle not %27 apostrophes |
| 23:01 | rangi | ' is fine ’ isnt |
| 23:01 | wizzyrea | maaadness |
| 23:01 | rangi | rgbv: so its being blocked before getting to koha |
| 23:02 | rgbv: i hope that makes sense and/or is helpful :) | |
| 23:03 | rgbv | cheers, thats most helpful, I'll get them to set the apostrophes free |
| 23:03 | rangi | cool |
| 23:04 | wizzyrea | fly little apostrophes! fly! |
| 23:04 | rgbv | :) |
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| 23:10 | jcamins | I just realized something... Persona doesn't work with non-public servers, does it? |
| 23:11 | rangi | how do you mean? |
| 23:11 | my 192.168.2.188 server i developed it on? | |
| 23:11 | jcamins | Right. |
| 23:11 | rangi | yeah it does |
| 23:11 | jcamins | Oh, good! |
| 23:11 | wizzyrea | you mean "not internet connected" |
| 23:11 | rangi | as long as that server can talk to the internet that is |
| 23:11 | wizzyrea | perhaps? |
| 23:11 | jcamins | But... how? |
| 23:11 | No, I meant behind a firewall. | |
| 23:12 | rangi | if the server cant verify an assertion with a persona server |
| 23:12 | jcamins | I thought it had some sort of callback. |
| 23:12 | rangi | then no it wont work |
| 23:12 | nope | |
| 23:12 | jcamins | I didn't look at the code yet since I couldn't figure out how to get it working. |
| 23:12 | rangi | what happens is the client logs in |
| 23:12 | to persona | |
| 23:12 | jcamins | And the commit message mentioned a /svc/login call. |
| 23:13 | rangi | yep thats local |
| 23:13 | jcamins | Ohhh. |
| 23:13 | Very cool! | |
| 23:13 | rangi | there is an /opac/svc/login |
| 23:13 | script created for this | |
| 23:13 | however that script has to verify the assertion given to it by the client | |
| 23:13 | with a persona server somewhere, in this case the main one | |
| 23:14 | jcamins | Right, but the Persona server isn't connecting to /opac/svc/login, it's /opac/svc/login making the connection to Persona. |
| 23:14 | rangi | right |
| 23:14 | jcamins | Awesome! |
| 23:14 | wahanui | That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, jcamins |
| 23:14 | jcamins | lol |
| 23:14 | * dcook | chuckles |
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| 23:24 | jcamins | I have one stick of butter and cocoa powder, and would like to bake something dessert-like with it. |
| 23:24 | Suggestions? | |
| 23:26 | http://catesworldkitchen.com/2[…]-oatmeal-cookies/ <-- I could make that and add a few tablespoons of avocado... | |
| 23:26 | AVOCADO!!!! | |
| 23:27 | Butter problem = a thing of the past | |
| 23:28 | What is with this trend of using cake mix instead of actual ingredients? | |
| 23:32 | dcook | jcamins: By trend, do you mean the past 20-30 years? :p |
| 23:32 | Admittedly, I've often been a mix/pre-made person, but my partner is giving me flak, so b ack to actual ingredients we go! | |
| 23:33 | jcamins | dcook: no, this is more recent. |
| 23:33 | It used to be that you used cake mix for, well, cake. | |
| 23:34 | dcook | As opposed to? |
| 23:34 | jcamins | Now there are "three ingredient" recipes for avocado cookies that call for "avocados, milk, and cake mix." |
| 23:34 | wtf? | |
| 23:34 | dcook | O_o |
| 23:34 | I see what you're saying now | |
| 23:35 | P.S. avocado cookies? I'm intrigued. | |
| 23:35 | P.P.S. are avocados ridiculously expensive in the US as well? | |
| 23:35 | jcamins | Yes they are. |
| 23:35 | I found these: http://dairyfreecooking.about.[…]cado-Brownies.htm | |
| 23:36 | However, I am simply going to replace a stick of butter with an avocado. | |
| 23:36 | dcook | Oooo that looks good |
| 23:37 | My partner is vegan and I'm increasingly so myself, so always good to see non-dairy recipes | |
| 23:45 | bgkriegel | jcamins: testing bug 5608. Perlcritic complains about a require statement, but there are lots of scripts that also fails (or not but use same code). What to do? |
| 23:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5608 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mdhafen, Needs Signoff , Tool to move MARC21 series info to 490 tag |
| 23:51 | jcamins | Ignore the perlcritic complaint. |
| 23:51 | dcook | Intriguing... |
| 23:52 | jcamins | The perlcriticrc file in the Koha repo tells perlcritic to ignore it. |
| 23:53 | bgkriegel | mm, i'm using koha-qa and percritic file |
| 23:53 | in my home | |
| 23:53 | ok, ignore :) | |
| 23:53 | dcook | ...that bug looks weird |
| 23:54 | Maybe it's just the wording |
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