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00:19 | mveron | Good night all |
00:19 | :quit | |
00:28 | dcook | Random question for anyone who has a moment |
00:28 | How does Koha store user-generated help data? | |
00:28 | When they're editing the help pages on the staff client? | |
00:37 | Nvm | |
00:37 | Looks like Koha re-writes the actual templates | |
00:56 | bgkriegel | dcook: yes, and prints a warning if webserver can't write the file |
00:56 | dcook | Yeah, I saw that with my dev install ;) |
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01:18 | * dcook | just noticed the 60 patch emails sitting in his patches folder. |
01:18 | dcook | Looks like Owen has been busy... |
01:19 | You too, bgkriegel :p | |
01:19 | bgkriegel | :) |
01:19 | and cait too | |
01:20 | schnydsch | good morning koha community. we're using koha 3.8.5 in debian installation.is there a limit in items in a bibliographic record?one bibliographic record we have has 690 items.before that days before, the biblio record and its items are working good but now when I'm seaching it comes out as No Title, and when I click it it has no biblionumber. When I search.. |
01:21 | ..its supposed biblionumber, what comes out is "The record you requested does not exist (). I have cron job -z -b -a running every 3 minutes | |
01:22 | bgkriegel | do you know the biblionumber (koha internal number) |
01:22 | ? | |
01:22 | schnydsch | yeah |
01:22 | jcamins_away | schnydsch: the problem is with indexing. |
01:23 | If you use -x when indexing, it will start showing up again. | |
01:23 | schnydsch | I have -z -b -a running every 3 minutes |
01:23 | jcamins_away | Right, that won't work. |
01:23 | It has to be -z -b -a -x | |
01:23 | And you'll have to rebuild the indexes with -b -a -r -x first | |
01:23 | schnydsch | ok i'll try that first. |
01:24 | -x -b was working for me then.. but haven't tried -b -a -r -x | |
01:24 | jcamins_away | You have to rebuild the indexes... mixing some entries with -x and some entries without gets messy. |
01:25 | bgkriegel | -x is not for biblios only? |
01:26 | jcamins_away | Not since 3.8.3ish. |
01:26 | Good point. | |
01:26 | schnydsch: what version? | |
01:26 | wahanui | version is always noted in a comment on top |
01:26 | jcamins_away | You may have to rebuild just biblios, and have two cronjobs instead of just one. |
01:26 | schnydsch | 3.8.5 |
01:27 | jcamins, what cronjobs are those? | |
01:27 | jcamins_away | It doesn't matter. |
01:27 | schnydsch | i have -z -b -a |
01:27 | jcamins_away | Right, you need to change it to -z -b -a -x |
01:27 | If you were using an old version, you would have needed two: -z -b -x and -z -a | |
01:28 | But you have a recent version. | |
01:28 | schnydsch | ok thanks. i'll rebuild first with -b -a -r -x. then -z -b -a -x |
01:29 | eythian | jcamins_away: can we use -x with authorities now? |
01:30 | jcamins_away | Since 3.8.3ish. |
01:30 | dcook | Which bug changed that? |
01:30 | bgkriegel | just tried and works, but help still said "only for biblios" |
01:31 | eythian | oh cool. I should update the package scripts so they let that work. |
01:31 | jcamins_away | DOM indexing. |
01:31 | wahanui | dom indexing is a lot faster than GRS-1. |
01:31 | jcamins_away | bgkriegel: heh, yeah, the help should probably be updated then. |
01:31 | dcook | Hmm. Cool. |
01:33 | bgkriegel | but this is only for DOM? my install use grs-1 and also works |
01:33 | jcamins_away | No. |
01:33 | -x always worked with GRS-1. | |
01:33 | bgkriegel | ah, ok |
01:33 | jcamins_away | It just didn't work with DOM and we didn't have a way of checking, so it was disabled for authorities. |
01:37 | bgkriegel | dcook: bug 7818 |
01:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 critical, P1 - high, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records |
01:37 | jcamins_away | That's the one. |
01:37 | eythian | why's that got my name on it? |
01:38 | dcook | Looks like it was assigned to you? |
01:38 | schnydsch | i still get The record you requested does not exist (). |
01:38 | eythian | Weird. |
01:39 | jcamins_away | Very weird. |
01:39 | bgkriegel | schnydsch: how are you trying to access it? |
01:39 | jcamins_away | And it's showing up in search results? |
01:39 | schnydsch | it does not show when I search particular barcode/accession no. |
01:39 | what shows is The record you requested does not exist (). | |
01:40 | jcamins_away | When does that show? |
01:40 | schnydsch | the title is Supreme Court Reports Annotated |
01:40 | jcamins_away | Are you trying to directly access the record? |
01:40 | So if you go to /cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=XXXXX what happens? | |
01:41 | schnydsch | when i search the barcode/acc. no., there is no biblionumber on URL |
01:41 | with /cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=XXXXX it's there | |
01:42 | jcamins_away | Very odd. |
01:42 | I've seen that problem before, and it is fixed by adding -x | |
01:42 | So there must be an additional issue here. | |
01:43 | And I can't think what it could be. | |
01:43 | schnydsch | when i search the biblionumber in catalog, The record you requested does not exist (). and the biblionumber in URL is blank |
01:43 | yeah, it was working before the biblio record had only 500 or less items | |
01:43 | but when I got up 600 yesterday through merging I got that mess | |
01:44 | jcamins_away | I'm sorry, I don't have any more suggestions if rebuilding zebra with -x didn't fix the problem. |
01:44 | schnydsch | could this be a bug? does anybody in the group have biblio records more than 600? |
01:44 | i mean biblio records with more that 600 items? | |
01:44 | rangi | yep, fixed with -x |
01:44 | jcamins_away | schnydsch: yes, many, many libraries. |
01:45 | All of whom have it working with -x. | |
01:45 | schnydsch | <rangi> you mean -b -a -r -x? |
01:45 | rangi | yup |
01:45 | jcamins_away | You run rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r -x *once* |
01:45 | rangi | iso2709 has a size limit |
01:45 | jcamins_away | During that time, you need the cron job to be disabled. |
01:45 | rangi | marcxml doesnt |
01:46 | jcamins_away | Then, when you go in to re-enable the cron job, you add "-x" to the end of the command line. |
01:46 | schnydsch | lemme try again, maybe -z -b -a got along the way |
02:16 | i did what u told me jcamins but still got the same error.. hhmm.. | |
02:18 | bgkriegel | schnydsch: if you search for the title, get no results? |
02:27 | bye | |
02:28 | schnydsch | <bgkriegel> other biblio records with the same title are the results, but i cannot find the exact title |
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02:47 | dcook | bag, khall, libsysguy: Can you explain this blog post to me a bit? http://bywatersolutions.com/2013/02/08/rda/ |
02:47 | While a RDA framework will show RDA tags in the cataloguing module, it won't show them on any templates, right? | |
02:47 | Unless perhaps one is using XSLT? | |
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02:48 | libsysguy | dcook |
02:48 | you'd probably have to ask talljoy | |
02:48 | when she is around | |
02:48 | probably tuesday | |
02:48 | or I think rangi had a similar post | |
02:49 | wizzyrea | They probably need to be added to the xlst stylesheets |
02:49 | xls?? xsl. | |
02:49 | dcook | Yeah, I saw rangi's post about frameworks, although I'm not quite sure that it's entirely correct |
02:49 | The more I look at RDA, the more I think that Koha can't actually handle it without editing | |
02:50 | rangi | in what way? |
02:51 | dcook | Well, the RDA framework that you put up does include more tags (like 336, 337, 338), but these needs to be manually added to the XSLTs or the TT templates need to be updated to show this information |
02:51 | rangi | you can use custom xslt, you can pick what xslt you want, in the sysprefs |
02:51 | dcook | That's what I mean though. It needs to be customized. |
02:52 | Typically by non-users | |
02:52 | rangi | yes, whenever anyone figures out what to do with them |
02:52 | dcook | There is that ;) |
02:52 | rangi | because currently the data is of no value at all to any user |
02:52 | cept maybe some librarians | |
02:52 | dcook | Although lookings at 336, 337, 338...I could see them as being additions to the extent |
02:52 | wizzyrea | if you know what to do with it I'm sure a patch would be welcome |
02:52 | rangi | but if you are cataloguing for librarians |
02:52 | you are doing it wrong | |
02:52 | thats my whole beef with RDA | |
02:52 | dcook | Good point, rangi |
02:53 | rangi | it doesnt provide any value to me as a library user at all |
02:53 | dcook | This page (http://www.loc.gov/marc/RDAinMARC.html) mentionst that MARC already contained most of these codes |
02:53 | rangi | yep |
02:53 | dcook | For reading by machines rather than people. 336, 337, 338 definitely look like they're for librarians |
02:53 | Agreed | |
02:53 | rangi | exactly |
02:53 | thats why i did the framework | |
02:53 | dcook | They do seem like they could be useful as search limiters...maybe |
02:53 | rangi | so you could store it |
02:53 | and search it | |
02:53 | dcook | But that's why we have item types :/ |
02:53 | Your framework needs a little edit ;) | |
02:54 | All the fields in 338 have a max length of 0 | |
02:54 | subfields* | |
02:54 | Search it? | |
02:54 | Mmm, with the xslt | |
02:54 | rangi | but i couldnt figure out any way to use display them in any useful fashion so someone else can |
02:54 | if we store it, we can search it | |
02:54 | dcook | Fair enough |
02:54 | How are they indexed? | |
02:55 | rangi | they aren't yet |
02:55 | because you'd have to make a whole new dropdown to search them | |
02:55 | cos no one is going to know the jargon | |
02:55 | dcook | So we can't really search them yet |
02:55 | rangi | with about 5 mins work we could |
02:55 | dcook | Admittedly, carrier type, content type, media type do seem a bit...redundant |
02:56 | rangi | if that provided any value at all |
02:56 | dcook | True |
02:56 | But that's my point ;) | |
02:56 | Is that "if" someone needed it, there is still work to do | |
02:56 | rangi | yep 30 mins |
02:56 | there is yet to be someone who needs it though | |
02:56 | seriously it was just to prove to the nat lib that storing rda isnt hard | |
02:56 | but it is pointless | |
02:57 | dcook | True, so far everyone seems to be asking yes or no questions |
02:57 | I don't know "why" people want it | |
02:57 | rangi | exactly |
02:57 | * wizzyrea | suspects they don't either |
02:57 | dcook | I do like the FRBR idea, but that doesn't seem to be anywhere yet either |
02:57 | * dcook | agrees with wizzyrea |
02:58 | rangi | if you have the framework you can tick the box |
02:58 | no one knows why you'd want to | |
02:58 | but you can | |
02:58 | dcook | True enough |
02:59 | I know a few librarians who seem to be pretty into RDA. I must make a note to ask them questions about why they use it again... | |
02:59 | wizzyrea | because it's NEW and EXCITING and DIFFERENT |
02:59 | dcook | Myself and some classmates had a hard time seeing the benefit of RDA when an RDA trainer did a seminar for one of our classes in 2011 |
02:59 | hehe | |
03:00 | wizzyrea | it took AGES to figure out |
03:00 | :) so mostly I think, it's just a long awaited snooze of a change | |
03:01 | rangi | you wait until they start getting excited about bibframe instead |
03:01 | dcook | Well, they were pretty excited about bibframe too :p |
03:01 | * dcook | knows he gets the bibframe emails and stores them somewhere... |
03:02 | rangi | http://bibframe.org/ |
03:02 | dcook | Ahhh |
03:02 | rangi | http://bibframe.org/contribute/ |
03:03 | * dcook | now recalls some of the arguments on the bibframe listserv |
03:03 | rangi | thats funny |
03:03 | The MARC standard is responsible for the creation of millions of bibliographic records from all parts of the globe. | |
03:03 | thats not how i remember it | |
03:03 | im pretty sure the cataloguers had some part to play | |
03:03 | wizzyrea | hehe |
03:03 | dcook | what the... |
03:03 | wahanui | it has been said that the is a stop word |
03:03 | rangi | s/creation/storage/ |
03:03 | and that sentence makes sense | |
03:03 | dcook | No doubt, wahanui. No doubt... |
03:04 | rangi | and therein lies in the ENTIRE problem |
03:04 | storage mechanism, should not be entry or display | |
03:04 | confusing them is what got us into this mess :) | |
03:06 | dcook | truer words, eh? |
03:07 | I was hanging out with a friend the other night and trying to explain library technology. | |
03:07 | There were quite a few "yeah, I know it would be better if...but..." | |
03:07 | rangi | @quote get 123 |
03:07 | wahanui | http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
03:07 | huginn | rangi: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
03:08 | * dcook | loves that quote |
03:08 | dcook | I brought up that xkcd as well actually :p |
03:09 | rangi | :) |
03:09 | dcook | She knew it well ;) |
03:10 | Je ne sais pas...on one hand, I've used non-MARC systems that worked great for that individual institution | |
03:10 | Until they had to migrate their data...that's when MARC came in super handy | |
03:11 | individual institution = special library | |
03:11 | rangi | yep |
03:11 | dcook | On the other hand, MARC is...MARC |
03:11 | rangi | no human should ever have to see it |
03:11 | dcook | I also dislike how RDA tries to combine AACR2 changes and MARC changes |
03:11 | It's like the whole "don't submit a patch with whitespace changes" | |
03:11 | rangi | yeah |
03:11 | exactly | |
03:11 | dcook | AACR2 and MARC are already conflated more than enough as it is... |
03:12 | Agreed. Poor humans.. | |
03:12 | rangi | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]rc-is-for-mental/ |
03:12 | dcook | http://www.theatlantic.com/tec[…]ieve-bell/265596/ |
03:12 | They said, "You don't understand. The robots are our friends." | |
03:13 | Mmmm, great blog post | |
03:16 | I mean yours, rangi :p | |
03:16 | mtj | i think the people that are really excited about RDA are the trainers and documentation publishers |
03:16 | schnydszch | excuse me koha community, what does this mean: Error exporting record 93569 (biblio) XML at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 395 |
03:16 | wahanui | schnydszch: Failure to adjust for daylight savings time. |
03:17 | schnydszch | i run -b -w -v |
03:17 | actually I also got this yesterday I think. there could be something wrong with my record? but I can't figure it out | |
03:18 | rangi | have a look at the marcxml column of biblioitems for that record |
03:19 | schnydszch | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <record xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim http://www.loc.gov/standards/m[…]ma/MARC21slim.xsd" xmlns="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim"> <leader>00468nam a2200169Ia 4500</leader> <controlfield tag="008">110402s9999 xx |
03:20 | http://mibpaste.com/BxaCVg | |
03:20 | wizzyrea | excuse? |
03:20 | wahanui | wizzyrea: The rolling stones concert down the road caused a brown out |
03:20 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
03:21 | schnydszch | <wizzyrea> coz i see in the conversation you're talking about interesting topic RDA :) |
03:21 | the one in mibpaste is the marcxml of my record, could there be something wrong? | |
03:22 | rangi | that looks ok, you could try running the rebuild with -k |
03:22 | that will not delete the records then you can look in /tmp and see what it looks like exported | |
03:23 | dcook | mtj: I think you're right. Nothing like writing up a "new" secret code and then selling access to it for an arm and a leg |
03:25 | schnydszch | <rangi> add -k to -b -w- -v? |
03:25 | <rangi> add -k to -b -w -v? | |
03:28 | rangi | thats right |
03:28 | hmm no -w | |
03:28 | you need -x | |
03:29 | * rangi | has to go |
04:01 | wizzyrea | later peps |
04:04 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
04:04 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #220: "jcamins: Facebook may not like unspecified relationships, but rare books catalogers do!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:41 PM, October 19, 2012) |
04:07 | dcook | For once, librarian humour that I don't actually get :p |
04:17 | schnydszch | tnx <rangi> |
04:27 | dcook | How does one generate templates from PO files again? |
04:27 | translate install xx-XX? | |
04:27 | from the misc/translator directory? | |
04:28 | or "perl install xx-XX", I suppose? | |
04:28 | Aha! http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ANET_staff_client | |
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04:40 | alohabot | Hi mib_lc60qq, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
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05:37 | dcook | hi cait :) |
05:38 | cait | hi dcook :) |
05:46 | dcook | Good sleep? ;) |
05:46 | I only include the ;) because I just realized that I was at work the whole time you were sleeping O_o. You don't sleep enough :p | |
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05:47 | cait | um... |
05:49 | * dcook | realizes that he's actually been sitting at his desk for way too long |
05:50 | cait | that's the other side :) |
05:50 | * dcook | goes back to looking at opac tags |
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06:10 | bigbrovar | . |
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07:05 | * magnuse | waves |
07:06 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
07:06 | magnuse | hiya cait |
07:06 | cait | morning magnuse |
07:07 | magnuse | 4 weeks/1 month until marseille |
07:07 | cait | hehe |
07:07 | that's super cool | |
07:07 | and scary because it means we are done with that versionso soon! | |
07:08 | magnuse | gah! too true! |
07:09 | i should try and get the digital signs ready for submission | |
07:10 | i'm actually going to dedicate next weekend to that | |
07:10 | cait | ! |
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07:11 | cait | morning drojf |
07:11 | magnuse | nengard++ for volunteering |
07:12 | drojf | good morning #koha |
07:12 | magnuse | moin drojf |
07:12 | drojf | hi cait |
07:12 | hei magnuse | |
07:12 | magnuse | @wunder berlin |
07:12 | huginn | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
07:12 | magnuse | @wunder berlin, germany |
07:12 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 1.4°C (7:43 AM CET on February 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
07:12 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
07:12 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 8.0°C (8:00 AM CET on February 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
07:12 | magnuse | ooh nice |
07:12 | @wunder konstanz | |
07:12 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (8:00 AM CET on February 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
07:12 | drojf | "clear". i would like that |
07:13 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
07:13 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (7:50 AM CET on February 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
07:13 | drojf | we only change between light grey and dark grey |
07:13 | magnuse | hey konstanz = bodø! |
07:13 | drojf | lol |
07:15 | magnuse | they promise us +5 in a few days |
07:17 | drojf | ha, up to 8° at the end of the month |
07:17 | and rain and snow :D | |
07:20 | magnuse | snow and +8? |
07:21 | drojf | 0-8°. so i guess snow in the night, rain and mud by day |
07:21 | cait | snow has thawed here |
07:21 | and I cansee some sun | |
07:21 | and I have headache because it probably wasn't supposed to be so nice so fast | |
07:21 | drojf | aaaw. that sun people talk about. what does it look like? :) |
07:22 | i'll take your sun if that helps your head | |
07:23 | cait | ok deal |
07:23 | do you come by to collect it? | |
07:24 | drojf | i thought you could fedex it? |
07:25 | cait | if you pay for the postage... |
07:25 | but it looks kinda big | |
07:26 | drojf | maybe i can find a company that specializes in sunsportation services. they will know better how to deliver it |
07:26 | cait | lol |
07:28 | magnuse | pf, stretch out your arm and you can probably cover all of it with your thumb. how big can it be? |
07:28 | drojf | lol |
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07:33 | dcook | All right. Finally turning in for the night. Ta, #koha! |
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07:34 | cait | heh |
07:34 | it's big,.... we will need a long ladder too | |
07:34 | maybe we could do something with a big miror | |
07:34 | instead of moving it | |
07:36 | alex_a | bonjour |
07:36 | wahanui | niihau, alex_a |
07:36 | magnuse | kia ora alex_a |
07:37 | cait | hi alex_a |
07:43 | alex_a | salut cait magnuse :) |
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07:45 | reiveune | hello |
07:45 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
07:46 | reiveune | hi cait, magnuse :) |
07:47 | cait | why do you always see your typos while bugzilla is saving it already? :( |
07:47 | magnuse | :-) |
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07:48 | marcelr | hi koha |
07:48 | cait | morning marcelr |
07:48 | and bbl :) | |
07:48 | marcelr | hi cait |
07:48 | cait++ for qa | |
07:48 | cait | thx :) |
07:48 | * cait | runs out |
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07:50 | magnuse | bgkriegel++ for signing off bug 9498 |
07:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9498 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Signed Off , Update encoding for Norwegian sample Z39.50 servers |
07:58 | marcelr | hi magnuse |
07:58 | magnuse | hiya marcelr |
07:59 | drojf | hi marcelr |
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08:02 | asaurat | hi |
08:02 | wahanui | privet, asaurat |
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08:04 | gaetan_B | hello |
08:04 | marcelr | hi drojf gaetan_B |
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08:18 | rangi | hmm bug 9657 |
08:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9657 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED INVALID, New catalog in Koha |
08:18 | rangi | what does that even mean? |
08:18 | kf | no idea |
08:18 | rangi | marcelr++ |
08:19 | marcelr | :) |
08:19 | kf | :) |
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08:28 | * rangi | wonders if the rijkmuseum have library cards ? :) |
08:28 | rangi | rijksmuseum even |
08:29 | * kf | whispers marcelr |
08:34 | drojf | rangi: do people send you empty cards, or do you get actual accounts too? :) |
08:34 | magnuse | rangi: i'll see what i can do too |
08:35 | marcelr | hi rangi |
08:37 | rangi | hehe i dunno if any of the cards are live :) |
08:38 | heh | |
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08:48 | paul_p | good morning #koha. (I'm back to BibLibre office, so it's still morning ;-) ) |
08:49 | marcelr | hi paul_p |
08:49 | magnuse | bonjour paul_p |
08:49 | had a godd journey? | |
08:51 | kf | hi paul_p |
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09:23 | paul_p | magnuse yes, good journey, flights on time, nothing lost, not waiting too long at borders/security controls. and, best of all : no-one sitted on my right in the plane, good for having more room for my legs ! |
09:23 | kf | :) |
09:23 | sounds like perfect travel | |
09:24 | hope I will get that lucky on my way to marseille | |
09:30 | rangi | @quote random |
09:30 | huginn | rangi: Quote #21: "<owen> I think we need more quotes!" (added by jdavidb at 04:18 PM, August 06, 2009) |
09:31 | kf | @quote random |
09:31 | huginn | kf: Quote #83: "<wizzyrea> you can watch the sunrise around the world in #koha" (added by druthb at 06:29 PM, July 13, 2010) |
09:37 | magnuse | paul_p: nice! always good to sit next to an empty seat! |
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10:16 | vfernandes | hello :) |
10:16 | kf are you here? | |
10:18 | kf | yes |
10:26 | vfernandes | hi... bug 9341 |
10:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9341 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Patch doesn't apply , Problem with UNIMARC authors facets |
10:26 | vfernandes | tell me what I need to do... |
10:32 | kf | oh |
10:32 | sorry, got distracted | |
10:32 | it didn't apply for me | |
10:33 | if you could update your branch witht he patches to latest master and resend them, that might help | |
10:33 | a clean master branch, no other changes in between, that could be a reason too for the problem I think | |
10:38 | vfernandes | ok... |
10:38 | i'll upload a new patch | |
10:43 | done :) let me put the other patches obsolete | |
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10:59 | kf | vfernandes: I will try again then :) |
10:59 | vfernandes | thanks kf, kf++ |
11:00 | it's nice to see my UNIMARC patches pass QA | |
11:00 | they will be a very nice improvement for UNIMARC implementations | |
11:02 | kf | vfernandes: :) |
11:03 | vfernandes: hope I am testing right, but they looked safe and I am testing in an unimarc installation | |
11:04 | vfernandes | When I had submitted those patches there wasn't patch submitting codelines |
11:04 | but you are testing right :) | |
11:04 | kf | did you have to change a lot? |
11:05 | vfernandes | in what kf? |
11:05 | kf | in the patch :) |
11:05 | I noticed that jonathan's sign off got lost and wonder how the best way to deal with it now is | |
11:06 | vfernandes | of bug 9341? i've created a new clean branch and changed the files again, but the changes are the same |
11:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9341 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Signed Off , Problem with UNIMARC authors facets |
11:07 | kf | hm I will test and maybe set to signed off - then jonthan could take another look |
11:07 | I think they were blocked mostly becuse he signed off and it was unimarc | |
11:07 | vfernandes | yes, I think that will be the correct aproach |
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11:14 | vfernandes | one question: which is the correct way to apply translations? before I was runnig the script tmpl_proccess |
11:14 | kf | ah |
11:14 | no, don't do that :) | |
11:14 | just change into the misc translator dirctory | |
11:14 | and run: perl translate install <langcode> | |
11:14 | oh | |
11:15 | vfernandes now I remember - I was wondering about your low percentage in the po files | |
11:15 | but you were gone by the time that I got to answer you | |
11:15 | (low translation percentage compared between 3.10 and 3.12) | |
11:15 | you said you got a complete translation of 3.10? | |
11:16 | vfernandes | yes... |
11:16 | i remember your email but saidly I deleted it :/ | |
11:17 | kf | well it's strange because the percentage of german is much higher |
11:17 | if I wrote you it's probably in the archives somewhere | |
11:17 | and on the wiki | |
11:17 | wahanui | i heard on the wiki was more information about the packages |
11:18 | kf | languages? |
11:18 | wahanui | languages are just tools, you should pick the right one for the right job |
11:18 | kf | hm additional languages? |
11:18 | vfernandes: see here for German - updates from a complete 3.10: http://translate.koha-community.org/de/312/ | |
11:19 | vfernandes | 76%? damn that's nice :) |
11:19 | kf | Portughese is quite a bit lower |
11:19 | so what I wanted to suggest to you for a test | |
11:19 | get a 3.10 staff po file | |
11:19 | and run perl translate update <langcode> on it | |
11:19 | and compare that to the one in pootle | |
11:20 | vfernandes | okay... now i can't do that... but later i will test it |
11:20 | kf | maybe worth a try to see if there is a mistake |
11:20 | you have to be on a master branch when you run it, just put the complete 3.10 files in the po directory | |
11:21 | and then run the command, it just does what the translation manager does :) | |
11:21 | it might be the files on pootle were not based on your completed files | |
11:22 | vfernandes | maybe... thanks kf for all the help :) |
11:22 | kf | np hope it works |
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11:28 | vkm | hello is it necessary to make hold limit nil in system preference if it is already set in circulation privilege different for different users group |
11:29 | because my hold limit always picks from system preference | |
11:29 | kf | vkm: check bugzilla with the keyword maxreserves |
11:30 | the max holds in circ matrix is not fully implemented | |
11:30 | vkm | ok |
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12:41 | jcamins_away | Is anyone else having trouble accessing bugs.k-c.org? |
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12:43 | marcelr | jcamins_away: hi and yes |
12:43 | jcamins | Well, as long as it's not me. |
12:43 | marcelr | :) |
12:43 | jcamins | rangi is still here, so the server isn't down. |
12:43 | marcelr | timing out now |
12:46 | kf | ithas been slow and a bit .... unstable for me since yesterday afternoon |
12:46 | not sure what's up, maybe rangi can take a look at it tonight? | |
12:46 | it always came around after a bit | |
12:46 | vfernandes | kf it's suppose appear "acquisitions.pref#OrderPdfFormat#" in the preferences translations? |
12:46 | kf | no :) |
12:47 | the pref files are a bit different than other files to translate | |
12:47 | you leave out the comment part at the beginning | |
12:47 | vfernandes | ohhh :D which is the command to translate? |
12:47 | kf | so delete all constructs like acquisitions.pref#OrderPdfFormat# from the translated strings |
12:47 | vfernandes | perl translate install pt-PT |
12:47 | kf | the command is the same, only have to translate them in pootle a bit differently |
12:48 | look at other languages if you want to see what I mean :) german or french | |
12:48 | vfernandes | really? :/ |
12:48 | kf | yeah, the comments are there so they stay in order |
12:48 | vfernandes | ok... i'll edit the po files |
12:48 | kf | po files are ordered alphabetically, but syspref translation alphabetically woudl be quite a nightmare - because you are puzzling together sentences |
12:49 | so the comments with the syspref name in front make it strings stay close together | |
12:49 | vfernandes: it shoudl be easy to fix | |
12:49 | vfernandes | acquisitions.pref is translated to "" |
12:49 | ? | |
12:49 | kf | hmm would have to check that one |
12:49 | there is no # in it | |
12:50 | so maybe you translate that directly | |
12:50 | let me check german | |
12:51 | hm funny | |
12:51 | it's translated Erwerbung in german, which means acuisitions | |
12:51 | I think I assument something was missing | |
12:51 | acquisitions.pref Policy | |
12:51 | there only Policy was translated | |
12:51 | vfernandes | ok thanks kf |
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13:30 | tcohen | morning #koha |
13:31 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9628' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]75af70f02644c1a18> / Bug 9628 - Replace YUI buttons and menus on budgets administration pages with Bootstrap <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7b791c921da6c805f> / Merge branch 'bug_9627' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/? |
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13:33 | drojf | back |
13:33 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1052 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
13:35 | kf | hey drojf - how is your homework? |
14:12 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
14:12 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 16.0°C (11:00 AM ART on February 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
14:16 | tcohen | what did \W meant in perl regexpt? |
14:16 | jcamins | Not a word character. |
14:17 | kf | drojf: cool |
14:17 | tcohen | thanks jcamins |
14:20 | kf | @later tell oleonard we need more patches! :) |
14:20 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
14:21 | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9646' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ebacac5176c31079f> / Bug 9646 - Replace YUI button on the printers administration page with Bootstrap <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]46bf7f6ac7c9867e5> / Merge branch 'bug_9645' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha. | |
14:22 | kf | paul_p: I see dpavlin will be around? what about mglavica? |
14:25 | paul_p: hm I will ask him :) | |
14:40 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1052: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1052/ |
14:40 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 8906 - Improve OAI management interface | |
14:40 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8906: Followup FIX hardcoded localhost url | |
14:40 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8906: Followup replace 'Clear' with 'Delete' | |
14:40 | * Vitor FERNANDES: Bug 9395: Problem with callnumber and standard number searches | |
14:40 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9395: Increment version number | |
14:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve OAI management interface |
14:40 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9648 - Replace YUI buttons on authorized values administration page with Bootstrap |
14:40 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9616 - Replace YUI menu on patrons page with Bootstrap | |
14:40 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9619 - Replace YUI buttons on libraries administration page with Bootstrap | |
14:40 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9621 - Replace YUI menu on lists pages with Bootstrap | |
14:40 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9622 - Replace YUI button on MARC fameworks page with Bootstrap | |
14:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9395 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Problem with callnumber and standard number search in OPAC and Staff Client |
14:40 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9623 - Replace YUI button on authority types administration page with Bootstrap |
14:40 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9624 - Replace YUI button on reports dictionary page with Bootstrap | |
14:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9648 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on authorized values administration page with Bootstrap |
14:40 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9627 - Replace YUI buttons and menus on serials pages with Bootstrap |
14:40 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9628 - Replace YUI buttons and menus on budgets administration pages with Bootstrap | |
14:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9616 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI menu on patrons page with Bootstrap |
14:40 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9619 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on libraries administration page with Bootstrap | |
14:40 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9621 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI menu on lists pages with Bootstrap | |
14:40 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9622 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on MARC frameworks page with Bootstrap | |
14:40 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9623 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on authority types administration page with Bootstrap | |
14:40 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on reports dictionary page with Bootstrap | |
14:40 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9627 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons and menus on serials pages with Bootstrap | |
14:40 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9628 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons and menus on budgets administration pages with Bootstrap | |
14:41 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1053 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1051 2 days 23 hr ago) |
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14:41 | kf | what, unstable?? |
14:42 | drojf | too many buttons pushed |
14:42 | * drojf | puts 5€ into the bad pun jar |
14:42 | kf | you will get poor fust |
14:42 | fast | |
14:43 | drojf | heh |
14:48 | jcamins | kf: there was a syspref update. |
14:48 | kf | ah ok |
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15:16 | tcohen | do we have a way to warn the user on the GUI? |
15:17 | jcamins | About what? |
15:17 | tcohen | i've found that if you write a SQL report calling an undefined authorised_value the GUI shows an empty dropdown menu |
15:18 | the user should be warned when saving, or when about to run, not sure | |
15:19 | what do u think jcamins? | |
15:19 | jcamins | Hm. I think probably on running. |
15:19 | Someone might copy a report off the wiki before creating the authorized values. | |
15:20 | tcohen | or simply havea typo |
15:20 | jcamins | Ah, true. |
15:20 | What about both? | |
15:20 | tcohen | heh |
15:21 | i was revisiting the code to start writing for bug 9634 | |
15:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Allow for parameters re-use on SQL reports |
15:21 | tcohen | should I fill another bug for this one? |
15:21 | jcamins | Yes. |
15:46 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1053: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1053/ |
15:46 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9629 - Replace YUI button on patron category administration page with Bootstrap | |
15:46 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9630 - Replace YUI button on cities and towns administration page with Bootstrap | |
15:46 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9631 - Replace YUI buttons on classification sources administration page with Bootstrap | |
15:46 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9632 - Replace YUI button on the currencies administration page with Bootstrap | |
15:46 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9633 - Replace YUI button on the itemtypes administration page with Bootstrap | |
15:46 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9635 - Replace YUI buttons on label batches pages with Bootstrap | |
15:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9629 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on patron category administration pages with Bootstrap |
15:46 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9636 - Replace YUI buttons on labels pages with Bootstrap |
15:46 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9637 - Replace YUI button on local use system preferences page with Bootstrap | |
15:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on cities and towns administration page with Bootstrap |
15:46 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9639 - Replace YUI button on MARC tag structure toolbar with Bootstrap |
15:46 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9640 - Replace YUI button on record matching rules page with Bootstrap | |
15:46 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9641 - Replace YUI button on the Koha news management page with Bootstrap | |
15:46 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9642 - Replace YUI button on the patron attribute types page with Bootstrap | |
15:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9631 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on classification sources administration page with Bootstrap |
15:47 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9643 - Replace YUI button on the road types administration page with Bootstrap |
15:47 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9644 - Replace YUI button on the suggestions management page with Bootstrap | |
15:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9632 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on the currencies administration page with Bootstrap |
15:47 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9645 - Replace YUI buttons on the quotes management page with Bootstrap |
15:47 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9646 - Replace YUI button on the printers administration page with Bootstrap | |
15:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9633 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on the itemtypes administration page with Bootstrap |
15:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9635 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on label batches pages with Bootstrap | |
15:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9636 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on labels pages with Bootstrap | |
15:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9637 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on local use system preferences page with Bootstrap | |
15:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9639 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on MARC tag structure toolbar with Bootstrap | |
15:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9640 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on record matching rules page with Bootstrap | |
15:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on the Koha news management page with Bootstrap | |
15:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9642 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on the patron attribute types administration page with Bootstrap | |
15:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9643 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on the road types administration page with Bootstrap | |
15:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9644 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on the suggestions management page with Bootstrap | |
15:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9645 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on the quotes management page with Bootstrap | |
15:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9646 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on the printers administration page with Bootstrap | |
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15:57 | jcamins | Greetings, sekjal! |
15:57 | sekjal | hi, jcamins |
15:58 | * chris_n | shakes his fist at canonical |
15:59 | jcamins | How are things at UMass? |
16:00 | sekjal | going pretty well. just got back from Code4Lib, and have lots of exciting projects to consider |
16:00 | jcamins | Does one of them give you more than 24 hours in a day? |
16:01 | 'Cause that would be really useful! | |
16:01 | sekjal | no, I don't think that was discussed this year, not even in a lightning talk |
16:01 | jcamins | Aww. |
16:01 | I could really use it, too. | |
16:02 | sekjal | got an intro to Ruby on Rails, though |
16:02 | jcamins | sekjal: did they give you any hints on how to prevent libraries spontaneously becoming incompatible? |
16:03 | sekjal | no, we just did a very basic intro using the RailsBridge materials |
16:04 | bag | hey sekjal |
16:04 | sekjal | oh, and 0 evaluates to true |
16:04 | in Ruby | |
16:04 | hey, bag! | |
16:04 | jcamins | sekjal: like in Bourne shell? Weird. |
16:05 | sekjal | yeah... Code4Lib is huge on RoR, but I just can't get into it. I have Perl and PHP, and that'll do pretty much anything I need |
16:05 | but if I want to modify/understand some else's code, guess I need to learn it | |
16:05 | * jcamins | is using PHP to write a cataloging system right now... first time in about a decade that I did something with PHP. |
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16:06 | sekjal | bag: beer #4 turned out really, really well! |
16:06 | bag | nice nice - I just did a maple brown yesterday |
16:06 | jcamins | What kind did you make? |
16:07 | sekjal | a dark brown ale with cinnamon. tastes like raisin bread |
16:07 | bag | sounds interesting |
16:07 | sekjal: that most important question… Thinking about going to Reno? | |
16:08 | reiveune | bye |
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16:09 | sekjal | bag: considering it; got it on my calendar |
16:09 | would need to figure out the funding and time off from work, though | |
16:09 | bag | good great awesome! |
16:09 | sekjal | it'd be really awesome to see everyone |
16:10 | * kf | waves at sekjal |
16:11 | sekjal | hi, kf! |
16:14 | * sekjal | is cataloging his music, and trying not to freeze |
16:14 | jcamins | sekjal: in Koha? :) |
16:15 | sekjal | jcamins: Musicbrainz for now, but I'll want to make full metadata records out of the ID3 tags (as well as authority entries for artists) |
16:15 | jcamins | Aww. |
16:15 | tcohen | jcamins, do we like switch statements in koha code? |
16:16 | jcamins | We like for () statements. |
16:16 | use Switch is deprecated, and given/when is considered "experimental" | |
16:16 | Let me find the bug with the discussion. | |
16:18 | http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsy[…]Switch-Statements | |
16:19 | tcohen | ok, i won't refactor code then :-P |
16:19 | * tcohen | runs away just in case |
16:20 | jcamins | Hehe. |
16:20 | If it will make your patch easier to understand, go ahead and refactor in a different patch. | |
16:20 | (i.e. two patches on the one bug) | |
16:23 | kf | *sigh* stealth_mode-- |
16:24 | jcamins | What's stealth mode? |
16:24 | kf | in our ticket system... it means my answer went nowhere |
16:24 | it is good when you wnat to do bulk changes | |
16:24 | jcamins | Ah. |
16:25 | kf | but it easy to forget to turn it off.... |
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17:28 | mib_vi5nnw | hi |
17:28 | autoemailopacuser not working | |
17:28 | having any soution | |
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18:11 | Brooke | o/ |
18:11 | jcamins | o/ |
18:11 | Topic for #koha is now druthb :) | |
18:11 | Brooke | ack |
18:11 | jcamins | lol |
18:11 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to irc://irc.oftc.net/#koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org/ | |
18:11 | Morthland | Is there a guide to update Koha some where? I need to move from 3.8 to 3.10/ |
18:15 | I seem to recall it being real simple last time, but I cant find the documentation now] | |
18:15 | jcamins | Morthland: look at the end of the install file. |
18:15 | If you're using packages, it's even simpler. | |
18:15 | "Install new version." | |
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18:15 | jcamins | "Wait." |
18:15 | "Reindex." | |
18:15 | "Enjoy." | |
18:18 | Morthland | I'm on ubuntu, so no packages. |
18:18 | jcamins | Packages work fine on Ubuntu. |
18:18 | Morthland | You mean the end of the install file on the wiki |
18:18 | ? | |
18:18 | jcamins | No, there's a file called INSTALL.debian (which you read even for Ubuntu). |
18:19 | Morthland | Oh. I thought you had to be running Debian |
18:19 | Brooke | packages_+_Ubuntu++ |
18:19 | jcamins | Nope. |
18:19 | I use the packages on Ubuntu. | |
18:19 | Brooke | and I am pleased that this has come to pass |
18:19 | jcamins | Wait, actually, I'm using Debian in production again. Ubuntu angered me. |
18:19 | Brooke | for yea, Ubuntu is teh awesome. |
18:19 | Morthland | Will it be a problem if I installed it without packages to use the package update? |
18:20 | * Brooke | is still grateful for packages + Ubuntu. So there :P |
18:20 | jcamins | You can switch from non-packages to packages, but it's not quite as simple. |
18:20 | There's a guide somewhere on the wiki. | |
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18:24 | alohabot | Hi mib_k1ip5y, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
18:25 | mib_k1ip5y | helo |
18:26 | maximep | oh, that's a cool new bot |
18:29 | cait | yep :) |
18:32 | mib_k1ip5y | witch programing language is used to comunicate in z39.50 in koha |
18:32 | ? | |
18:33 | jcamins | mib_k1ip5y: what do you mean? |
18:33 | Z39.50 is a protocol. | |
18:36 | mib_k1ip5y | yes I know but in client side some code must conect witch server z39.50 |
18:36 | cait | the configuration is done in the gui - administration > z39.50 servers |
18:38 | jcamins | mib_k1ip5y: the answer to your question is probably either "Perl" or "C" but I don't understand your question. |
18:38 | first question? | |
18:38 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
18:38 | jcamins | ^^ mib_k1ip5y |
18:41 | mib_k1ip5y | I look for implement conection in .net but I can't find specification for this protocol |
18:42 | jcamins | Have you looked at how MarcEdit does it? |
18:43 | mib_k1ip5y | I test it but I need more info about z39.50 |
18:44 | vfernandes | bye people :) |
18:44 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
18:44 | jcamins | Right, but MarcEdit is written in .NET. |
18:44 | Morthland | Following the upgrade instructions, when I run $ perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log |
18:44 | it starts a fresh install | |
18:45 | jcamins | Did you try searching Google for "z39.50 .net client"? Because I found the answer to your question on the first result of the first page. |
18:45 | rangi | you did put the patch to the actual log eh? |
18:45 | jcamins | Morthland: you replaced /path/to/koha-install-log with the actual path? |
18:45 | rangi | heh |
18:45 | morning | |
18:45 | cait | Morthland: it asks 2 questions - for icu and dom - maybe that's what you see? |
18:46 | Morthland | Yes, it is set to /usr/share/koha/misc/koha-install-log |
18:46 | I Ctl-Ced out. Let me rerun it. | |
18:47 | mib_k1ip5y | you think about yaz ? |
18:47 | Morthland | I see, "by default, Koha can be installed one of three ways, standard, single, dev |
18:48 | jcamins | mib_k1ip5y: http://jai-on-asp.blogspot.com[…]-zoomnet-and.html |
18:49 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_19_February_2013 |
18:49 | cait | Morthland: m that does not look right |
18:50 | Morthland: and the patch is correct to the log? | |
18:50 | s/patch/path | |
18:50 | Morthland | I'm afraid I don't catch your meaning. |
18:50 | mib_k1ip5y | I test this code but when i serch in z39.50 i can't use marc21 |
18:51 | cait | /usr/share/koha/misc/koha-install-log - is an existing file? |
18:51 | Morthland | yes |
18:51 | cait | hm |
18:51 | not sure then | |
18:51 | rangi | hmm, is that where a tarball install puts it? cos that looks like a package install location, but they might do the same |
18:51 | cait | I did run the make upgrade a little while back and it worked ok for me |
18:51 | rangi | open that file, what does it say? |
18:52 | should look like | |
18:52 | KOHA_INSTALLED_VERSION=3.10.02.000 | |
18:52 | LOG_DIR=/var/log/koha | |
18:52 | DB_TYPE=mysql | |
18:52 | (numbers and paths different) | |
18:52 | Morthland | That's what I've got. |
18:52 | For 3.08.03 | |
18:53 | rangi | what does it say for WEBMASTER_EMAIL ? |
18:53 | Morthland | webmasterLibraryServer |
18:53 | rangi | right, so yep that looks ok |
18:54 | Morthland | should I move the file? |
18:54 | rangi | no |
18:54 | cait | rangi: could it be something related to permissions? the file can't be read or something? |
18:54 | Morthland | I'm running the command sudo |
18:55 | rangi | heres what i get running it here |
18:55 | 6307 koha:f5220e4!? % perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /usr/share/koha/misc/koha-install-log | |
18:55 | Reading values from install log /usr/share/koha/misc/koha-install-log. You | |
18:55 | will be prompted only for settings that have been | |
18:55 | Morthland | I see my problem |
18:55 | Facepalm | |
18:56 | I'm running the flag --prev--instal--log | |
18:56 | That fixed it | |
18:56 | jcamins | rangi: "!?" ? |
18:57 | Changed and... | |
18:57 | Morthland | It' |
18:57 | It's listed a bunch of perl dependencies, I should install these before running make? | |
18:58 | * cait | hands Morthland the cookie tin |
18:58 | cait | it's a monday problem |
18:58 | rangi | changed and not synced |
18:59 | jcamins | Ah, nifty. |
19:02 | Morthland | Some of these dependencies I'm sure I have, MooseX::Types, for example. I guess they are just out of date |
19:02 | rangi | thats not required anyway, just optional |
19:02 | cait | Morthland: I tink you only need that if you wanted to switch on solr |
19:02 | rangi | so id ignore that |
19:03 | cait | yeah, I did so far |
19:03 | * rangi | goes to take the kids to school |
19:03 | cait | bye rangi |
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20:20 | rangi | back |
20:23 | cait | wb |
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20:26 | cait | hi kathryn |
20:26 | kathryn | hi cait! |
20:26 | rangi | well maybe bgkriegel or tcohen will understand that email, because I dont |
20:27 | jcamins | Heh. |
20:27 | wizzyrea | hehe |
20:28 | drojf | my guess is "can i put my ebooks (as in files) into koha", but not sure |
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20:45 | bgkriegel | hi |
20:48 | rangi | hi bgkriegel |
20:48 | bgkriegel | Hi rangi. I wrote to him (in spanish) that his email was not understandable (was reading the irc logs) |
20:49 | wizzyrea | bgkriegel++ |
20:49 | always better when people can get help in their native language anyway :) | |
20:49 | bgkriegel | yeah :) |
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21:16 | Morthland | As of update to 3.10, receiving this error at opac: |
21:16 | Can't locate DateTime/Format/MySQL.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/koha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Koha.pm line 30. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Koha.pm li | |
21:16 | wizzyrea | yep, you probably need to install the new dependency |
21:17 | libdatetime-format-perl | |
21:18 | rangi | thats where the packages rule :) they pull all those in for you |
21:18 | Morthland | It wont let me install the dependency |
21:19 | Says the test is failing | |
21:19 | if I apt-get install, will that fix? | |
21:19 | rangi | yes |
21:19 | always apt-get install | |
21:19 | only use CPAN as utter last resort | |
21:19 | Morthland | Good to know |
21:20 | rangi | because if you use CPAN you have to remember to watch all the bug trackers and watch for security updates and upgrade etc |
21:20 | packagers take care of that for you | |
21:20 | and debian security team (who ubuntu shamelessy use :)) | |
21:20 | Morthland | I got Unable to locate package |
21:21 | rangi | libdatetime-format-mysql-perl |
21:21 | is the name | |
21:21 | Morthland | is that the standard naming scheme for Perl Packages? |
21:22 | cait | :) |
21:22 | jcamins | Yes. |
21:22 | Morthland | now I get forwarded to the maintenence page |
21:23 | wizzyrea | yep, now you need to hit the intranet and do your DB update |
21:23 | Morthland | Gotchya |
21:24 | Thanks. | |
21:26 | This has been a much trickier upgrade then my upgrade from 3.2 to 3.8. I ought to switch to packages. | |
21:27 | wizzyrea | the packages do handle many of the more unpleasant upgrade tasks for you |
21:27 | jcamins | The only one they don't handle is deciding whether or not to upgrade, in fact. |
21:29 | Morthland | My only issue is that I run a hacked up version of koha. |
21:29 | rangi | you can build your own packages |
21:29 | jcamins | That's what I do. |
21:30 | * jcamins | also runs a hacked-up version. |
21:30 | Morthland | Like when LCCN wasn't an available Z3950 query, we changed that script |
21:30 | jcamins | Well, not so much hacked-up as, I aggressively backport bugfixes. |
21:30 | rangi | or better yet, submit patches :) |
21:30 | * jcamins | does that. |
21:30 | jcamins | All the patches I run are in _a_ version of Koha. |
21:31 | Morthland | I submitted that patch. |
21:31 | Takes a while. | |
21:31 | jcamins | (which is to say, you can do it!) |
21:31 | bgkriegel | jcamins: what version are you running? |
21:32 | jcamins | bgkriegel: 3.6.10ish. |
21:32 | + a bunch of fixes and a few enhancements from 3.8 and 3.10 | |
21:32 | bgkriegel | hacked-up already :) |
21:33 | jcamins | Hehe. |
21:40 | cait | good night all :) |
21:41 | bgkriegel | night cait |
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22:47 | alohabot | Hi mib_vozrm0, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
22:47 | mib_vozrm0 | what are some good irc chennals? |
22:49 | wizzyrea | well obv ours is the best one :P |
22:49 | bgkriegel | :) |
22:52 | * jcamins | proceeds to get "Seven-and-a-half cents" stuck in Shari's head. |
22:52 | * dcook | concurs |
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