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| 00:30 | wajasu | looks like the only thing i need to change to go from chr to icu zebra, is to substitute "charmap word-phrase-utf.chr" -> "icuchain words-icu.xml" in the /etc/koha/zebradb/etc/default.idx in a couple of places. |
| 00:30 | and rebuild | |
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| 01:28 | drojf | wajasu: i think there is not much magic involved |
| 01:32 | wajasu: what i see on my list is "install yaz-icu; Syspref UseICU 'use'; Syspref QueryFuzzy 'don't try'; Syspref QueryStemming 'don't try'. then change the file you mentioned, look at words-icu.xml but do nothing for now; restart zebra and rebuild | |
| 01:33 | we did not do much after the change to verify it worked because other stuff was more important, but i could find cyrillic letters which i could not find before… hth | |
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| 02:17 | wajasu | thanks for that info. |
| 02:18 | i did a diff before and after install with chr/icu varying. i did notice those change ccl.properties compared to the current biblio pkgs. | |
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| 03:12 | drojf | wajasu: in what way? |
| 03:12 | (do the change ccl.properties) | |
| 03:12 | they | |
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| 07:34 | cait joined #koha | |
| 07:43 | cait | bug 9566 |
| 07:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9566 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , Only run analytics code if analytics are enabled |
| 07:55 | mib_vgkden joined #koha | |
| 07:55 | alohabot | Hi mib_vgkden, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 07:59 | nikumbhabhijeet | hi |
| 07:59 | wahanui | niihau, nikumbhabhijeet |
| 08:00 | nikumbhabhijeet | we are having issues while configuring send notices |
| 08:00 | cait | hi |
| 08:00 | wahanui | que tal, cait |
| 08:00 | cait | what is your problem? |
| 08:01 | nikumbhabhijeet | system is running properly |
| 08:01 | postfix configured | |
| 08:01 | cait | which kind of notices do you have problems with? |
| 08:01 | which version of koha? | |
| 08:01 | wahanui | which version of koha are you using? |
| 08:02 | nikumbhabhijeet | we can't send notices to borrowers |
| 08:02 | 3.06 | |
| 08:02 | koha 3.06 | |
| 08:03 | do you know about any proper documentation for configure notices | |
| 08:03 | crontabs triggers, ad all | |
| 08:03 | cait | have you checked the manual? |
| 08:03 | manual? | |
| 08:03 | wahanui | well, manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 08:03 | cait | documentation? |
| 08:03 | wahanui | i guess documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 08:04 | cait | also the cronjobs have their own documentation, if you run them with -h or --help |
| 08:04 | I would suggest | |
| 08:04 | nikumbhabhijeet | we refer the documents |
| 08:04 | cait | 1) try sending out a cart mail, because they don't need the cronjobs |
| 08:04 | it will show if your mailserver works in principle | |
| 08:05 | 2) make sure you have set up check-in/checkout slips, check out, checkin and look at the notices tab for this borrower, to see if the notices were generated | |
| 08:05 | nikumbhabhijeet | we conggured postfix with gmail |
| 08:05 | cait | 3) make sure the cronjob process_messagequeue is set up to actually send the mails |
| 08:05 | until that runs they are only saved into the messagequeue table | |
| 08:05 | nikumbhabhijeet | no notices generated |
| 08:05 | we saw | |
| 08:05 | cait | so nothing in message_queue? |
| 08:06 | nikumbhabhijeet | there are no notices at borrower notice |
| 08:07 | cait | which notice did you try to generate? there are different types of notices |
| 08:08 | nikumbhabhijeet | we found two notices |
| 08:08 | Checkouts email sent 2013-02-17 11:57:31 Check-ins email sent 2013-02-17 11:57:31 | |
| 08:08 | cait | yep, they should have been sent out |
| 08:08 | nikumbhabhijeet | wait wait i'll see mails |
| 08:08 | cait | if they didn't arrive, check your mta configuration |
| 08:10 | nikumbhabhijeet | it's working |
| 08:10 | ya its working | |
| 08:10 | cait | cool |
| 08:12 | druthb_mobile joined #koha | |
| 08:14 | nikumbhabhijeet | thank you |
| 08:14 | bye | |
| 08:14 | have a nice day | |
| 08:14 | cait | bye |
| 08:15 | nikumbhabhijeet | hi |
| 08:16 | we have an another question | |
| 08:16 | ru there/ | |
| 08:16 | cait | yes |
| 08:16 | what is the question? | |
| 08:16 | wahanui | the question is, like, "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" |
| 08:18 | nikumbhabhijeet | our system is not connected to internet while making check-in and check-out transactions |
| 08:18 | after 10 pm we connect our system to internet | |
| 08:20 | cait | it will send out the notices as soon as the processmessagequeue job runs I think |
| 08:20 | nikumbhabhijeet | is all notices generated between the time ---when offline--- are going to laps or send while connected |
| 08:21 | so we have to configure processmessagequeue on cron setting | |
| 08:21 | cait | all but cart emails I think |
| 08:21 | and claims in acquisitions and serials | |
| 08:21 | nikumbhabhijeet | at specific time |
| 08:21 | cait | stuff like that would be send out immediately normally |
| 08:21 | nikumbhabhijeet | like 5 am morning |
| 08:21 | everyday like this | |
| 08:21 | cait | but everything that shows up in the tabs of borrowers will be sent out |
| 08:21 | nikumbhabhijeet | ok ok |
| 08:21 | cait | it's pending |
| 08:21 | the status | |
| 08:22 | wahanui | the status is clear |
| 08:22 | cait | and then changes to sent |
| 08:22 | nikumbhabhijeet | i am feeling good, because this is my first time to chat on koha community |
| 08:23 | cait | it's pretty qiuet here on weekends |
| 08:23 | there are a lot more people during the week | |
| 08:23 | nikumbhabhijeet | because we spend much of time to configre koha |
| 08:23 | lot of time | |
| 08:24 | by the way, whats your name | |
| 08:24 | where are you from | |
| 08:24 | cait | I am from germany |
| 08:24 | nikumbhabhijeet | myself nikumbh |
| 08:24 | i'm from pune,india | |
| 08:25 | thanks again | |
| 08:26 | cait | np |
| 08:26 | nikumbhabhijeet | r u koha professional like developer |
| 08:28 | mtj | hi cait and nikumbhabhijeet |
| 08:28 | cait | hi mtj :) |
| 08:28 | mtj | nikumbhabhijeet, are there many koha users in pune? |
| 08:28 | nikumbhabhijeet | hi |
| 08:28 | mtj | ... or are you the first? |
| 08:29 | nikumbhabhijeet | not many |
| 08:29 | mtj | ah, ok... |
| 08:29 | i am from new zealand, we have a few here | |
| 08:29 | nikumbhabhijeet | as per my knowledge more of libraries use customised desktpo softwares |
| 08:31 | basically koha is best in category and promotions or anything that get koha popular is not exhist in category | |
| 08:32 | look at us we are trying to use koha system from last to years | |
| 08:33 | one year back we up and run koha | |
| 08:33 | thanks to mr vimal kumar who prepare kohalive dvd 3.06 | |
| 08:34 | mtj | cool :p - good to know you are making progress with your koha |
| 08:35 | nikumbhabhijeet | now we are able to install koha |
| 08:35 | mtj | if you need help, just ask here on #irc - or on the koha mailing-lists |
| 08:35 | mailing-lists? | |
| 08:35 | wahanui | mailing-lists are mailing list. |
| 08:35 | mtj | mailing lists? |
| 08:35 | wahanui | mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 08:35 | mtj | there ^^ :) |
| 08:36 | nikumbhabhijeet | yesterday i signed up |
| 08:37 | we got some errors while running make-test | |
| 08:37 | 3 tests was failed | |
| 08:37 | is there anything to worry - | |
| 08:37 | mtj | some errors can be ignored safely, on make-test... |
| 08:38 | nikumbhabhijeet | but installation done without errors |
| 08:38 | and system is up and running | |
| 08:38 | mtj | also you should try using the koha debian packages - this will save you lots of problems |
| 08:38 | nikumbhabhijeet | koha 3.10.02 on ubuntu 12.04 |
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| 08:39 | nikumbhabhijeet | working very well |
| 08:39 | mtj | … the debian packages work on ubuntu, too (i think) |
| 08:39 | if you are new to koha, use the packages :) | |
| 08:40 | nikumbhabhijeet | we want to prepare debian live dvd |
| 08:40 | i didn't get you | |
| 08:40 | meas use the packages | |
| 08:40 | mtj | packages? |
| 08:40 | wahanui | i guess packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 08:41 | mtj | there ^^ :) |
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| 08:55 | alohabot | Hi mib_vgkden, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 08:56 | mib_vgkden | hi |
| 10:21 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 11:26 | cait | @wunder Konstnaz |
| 11:26 | huginn | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 11:26 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 11:26 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.7°C (12:25 PM CET on February 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
| 11:26 | cait | morning drojf :) |
| 11:33 | or hm | |
| 11:33 | happy lunch time :) | |
| 11:41 | hm | |
| 11:42 | I don't understand why bug 9636 does not work for me | |
| 11:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9636 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Replace YUI buttons on labels pages with Bootstrap |
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| 11:43 | cait | hi bgkriegel :) |
| 11:43 | bgkriegel | Hello |
| 11:43 | cait | and thank you for your sign-off:) |
| 11:43 | bgkriegel | Hi cait, lookin for you |
| 11:43 | np | |
| 11:44 | can't reproduce your problem with bug 9587 | |
| 11:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9587 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Allow login via mozilla persona - https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/persona/ |
| 11:45 | cait | ah |
| 11:45 | try logging into persona first | |
| 11:45 | then log out of koha, but stay in persona | |
| 11:45 | I think that was what rangi's comment meant and it woudl match my testing workflow | |
| 11:45 | bgkriegel | ah, ok |
| 11:45 | would try that. | |
| 11:46 | thanks :) | |
| 11:46 | cait | no, thank you :) |
| 11:46 | i am working my way through all the bootstrap patches right now | |
| 11:46 | bgkriegel | hehe |
| 11:46 | Love that gui changes | |
| 11:47 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 11:47 | sorry | |
| 11:47 | cait | heh |
| 11:47 | bgkriegel | owen+++ |
| 11:47 | cait | do you mean oleonard? ;) |
| 11:47 | bgkriegel | yes |
| 11:48 | my fingers :( | |
| 11:49 | cait | hm? |
| 11:49 | i like the changes too | |
| 11:49 | mib_26jow2 joined #koha | |
| 11:49 | alohabot | Hi mib_26jow2, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 11:49 | cait | and hope theywill be a lot more accessible |
| 11:50 | bgkriegel | yes |
| 11:50 | mib_26jow2 | hi |
| 11:51 | someone can help me about language translator in koha? | |
| 11:51 | cait | what is your question or problem? |
| 11:52 | mib_26jow2 | first of all excuse me for my terrible english, i'm italian |
| 11:54 | i was able to install italian language an now i can activate it in I18N/L10N preference editor | |
| 11:54 | but | |
| 11:54 | nothing is changed | |
| 11:54 | all is in english again | |
| 11:55 | what is my mistake? | |
| 11:55 | cait | did you also activate the language chooser? |
| 11:55 | search the preferences again for 'lang' | |
| 11:55 | mib_26jow2 | ok |
| 11:55 | wait pls | |
| 11:55 | cait | make sure choosing the language is activated and then look at the footer of your pages |
| 11:55 | there should be English | Italian to switch between languages | |
| 11:56 | mib_26jow2 | i'm in |
| 11:56 | cait | it worked? |
| 11:58 | mib_26jow2 | home/administration/system preferences/I18N/L10N |
| 11:58 | i'm here | |
| 11:59 | and the cross is on italian and not on english | |
| 11:59 | both for language and OPAC language | |
| 12:01 | any idea? | |
| 12:01 | cait | yes |
| 12:01 | but you have to switch | |
| 12:02 | mib_26jow2 | i don't see a switch |
| 12:02 | cait | set opaclanguagesdisplay |
| 12:02 | to allow | |
| 12:02 | go back to the start page - scroll down | |
| 12:02 | mib_26jow2 | i search |
| 12:02 | cait | it's on the i18n page, the last entry |
| 12:03 | mib_26jow2 | alreading done |
| 12:03 | and how i can switch? | |
| 12:04 | cait | click on italian |
| 12:04 | at the bottom | |
| 12:05 | mib_26jow2 | in i18n there is nothing to click |
| 12:05 | i can only enable language | |
| 12:07 | what can i do? | |
| 12:10 | it doesn't work | |
| 12:11 | bgkriegel | mib_26jow2: if you click on tab I18N/L10N, how many preferences you see? |
| 12:12 | mib_26jow2 | 2 |
| 12:12 | ialian and english | |
| 12:13 | cait | preferences are all lines |
| 12:13 | every line in the table is one preference | |
| 12:13 | and yes, you activated it | |
| 12:14 | but scroll down on tha page | |
| 12:14 | to the bottom | |
| 12:14 | at the bottom of every page there is a langauge chooser | |
| 12:14 | mib_26jow2 | i haven't it |
| 12:14 | cait | maybe you didn't install the language properly |
| 12:15 | mib_26jow2 | the last line on the bottom is to save |
| 12:15 | maybe | |
| 12:15 | can i send you a print of my screen? | |
| 12:16 | cait | better use a service to upload it somewhere on the web |
| 12:16 | do you see the chooser on the link I sent you? | |
| 12:16 | and is opaclanguagesdisplay ALLOW? | |
| 12:16 | try | |
| 12:16 | activating italian AND english | |
| 12:16 | both checkboxes checked for each opac and intranet | |
| 12:16 | mib_26jow2 | ok, now i try |
| 12:16 | cait | then go to the koha start page and check if the chooser appeared |
| 12:19 | mib_26jow2 | wowowowowowow |
| 12:19 | it works! | |
| 12:19 | i checked both italian and english | |
| 12:20 | cait | yay :) |
| 12:20 | mib_26jow2 | so in the bottom the choice appeared |
| 12:20 | i click on italian | |
| 12:20 | it worked | |
| 12:20 | cait | :) |
| 12:20 | mib_26jow2 | and now i "put away" english |
| 12:21 | and all is good | |
| 12:21 | thank you very much | |
| 12:21 | i'm very happy | |
| 12:21 | cait | heh |
| 12:21 | if the browser is installed in italian it hsould be ok | |
| 12:21 | we normally also provide english, so the chooser stays visible | |
| 12:21 | :) have fun with Koha :) | |
| 12:22 | mib_26jow2 | in your opinion is better have the two choices? |
| 12:23 | cait | I like it better, it's sometimes good for testing |
| 12:23 | but the browser should remember now | |
| 12:23 | that you want to see italian | |
| 12:23 | so it should not require you to select it again | |
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| 12:24 | mib_26jow2 | of course |
| 12:24 | where do you come from? | |
| 12:24 | WaylonR | helllo all! Okay, problem, somehow, wide characters have made it into some records marcxml.. how do i clean all records of wide characters? |
| 12:25 | bgkriegel | cait: I sent you and email about bug 5608 |
| 12:25 | cait | oh? |
| 12:25 | bgkriegel | a question about the status |
| 12:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5608 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mdhafen, Needs Signoff , Tool to move MARC21 series info to 490 tag |
| 12:26 | bgkriegel | mib_26jow2: cait is from Germany. |
| 12:26 | cait | switch to failed qa :) |
| 12:26 | no problem | |
| 12:26 | bgkriegel | ok |
| 12:26 | cait | everybody can |
| 12:26 | when there is a reason, I think for a script that shuffles data around a -h would be very good | |
| 12:26 | confirmation too, so it doesn't do anything until you really want to | |
| 12:27 | mib_26jow2 | i'll go... thank you very much, cait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:27 | bgkriegel | cait: I think so, but don't know |
| 12:27 | cait | no problem :) |
| 12:28 | bgkriegel: do you want me to switch it? | |
| 12:28 | bgkriegel | done already |
| 12:28 | cait | ok :) |
| 12:30 | bgkriegel | WaylonR: how many records? |
| 12:30 | WaylonR | unknown. |
| 12:31 | bgkriegel | from an import? |
| 12:32 | WaylonR | data entry. |
| 12:32 | wahanui | hmmm... data entry is ok, for around 2500 books, i can import it from sidd's existing xls sheets |
| 12:32 | WaylonR | wahanui, forget data entry |
| 12:32 | wahanui | WaylonR: I forgot data entry |
| 12:33 | cait | hm could you export them, fix them and reimport matching on biblionumber? |
| 12:35 | bgkriegel: could yo do me a quick favor? | |
| 12:35 | bgkriegel | tell me |
| 12:35 | cait | go to the suggestions page and check the filters on the left |
| 12:35 | are they broken for you too? | |
| 12:36 | bgkriegel | empty boxes? |
| 12:37 | cait | yeah |
| 12:37 | I only have blue boxes | |
| 12:37 | bgkriegel | then yes |
| 12:37 | cait | *sigh* |
| 12:37 | I will file a bug :) | |
| 12:38 | WaylonR | cait, how do i fix wide characters? |
| 12:39 | cait | not totally sure |
| 12:44 | bgkriegel | cait: the text is there, but invisible. Must be a css thing |
| 12:44 | cait | bgkriegel: maybe |
| 12:44 | trying to find it | |
| 12:44 | the last changes on this page were to fix the filters | |
| 12:44 | so that was hardly to bemissed... it must be some side effect | |
| 12:45 | maybe I iwll just file a bug for now | |
| 12:45 | investigating will take time :( | |
| 12:45 | bgkriegel | yeah |
| 12:46 | :( | |
| 12:48 | cait | done |
| 12:48 | bug 9653 | |
| 12:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9653 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Filters on suggestion page in intranet are broken |
| 12:49 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org The next general meeting is 13 March 2013 at 18:00 UTC | |
| 12:54 | bgkriegel | cait: was the last merge, do a reset and legends shows up |
| 12:54 | cait | ah so must have been owen's changes for bootstrap? |
| 12:55 | maybe note that on the bug? | |
| 12:55 | i mean the merge that caused the problem? | |
| 12:56 | bgkriegel | I think so, the he need to make a solution:) |
| 12:56 | cait | i think if it's the css owen will do a patch :) |
| 13:17 | bgkriegel | cait: Bug 9651 is easy, but a question: when you delete a budget only asks Delete/Cancel, but delete funds is more polite :) Change to shorter version or simply fix? |
| 13:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9651 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , When deleting a fund, button is wrongly labelled with 'Delete this budget' |
| 13:18 | cait | hm |
| 13:18 | I think shorter :) but not really a preference | |
| 13:18 | bgkriegel | I'm thinking in consitency |
| 13:19 | cait | yeah :) |
| 13:19 | i love consistenccy | |
| 13:19 | but I would be happy if it just stopped being wrong too :) | |
| 13:32 | bgkriegel | cait: done |
| 13:32 | cait | cool thx |
| 13:33 | bgkriegel | :) |
| 13:33 | WaylonR | is there a way to do a search and replace inside mysql? |
| 13:34 | update marcxml from biblioitems where /widechars// | |
| 13:34 | or some such? | |
| 13:35 | bgkriegel | I think not |
| 13:36 | WaylonR | [^\x00-\x7f] is how to find widechars in perl regex, how do i use this to find widechars in mysql? |
| 13:36 | bgkriegel | if the wide chars are in marcxml, then I think they are also in marc (both columns).You need to change both |
| 13:37 | WaylonR | oh... |
| 13:38 | REGEXP CONCAT('[',UNHEX('00'),'-',UNHEX('7F'),']') ? | |
| 13:39 | bgkriegel | if you know perl, you could write a script to change the records |
| 13:40 | first load then, fix, and save | |
| 13:40 | directly in Koha | |
| 13:40 | in that way both columns are updated | |
| 13:42 | jcamins_away | If you do anything other than what bgkriegel describes, you will make the situation worse. |
| 13:43 | WaylonR | if your talking about re-encoding, marc::charset::table kicks out a wide character error, even after the re-encoding inside modbiblio |
| 13:44 | jcamins_away | Right, you have to write a script to do it. |
| 13:45 | bgkriegel | Take a look at Bug 5608, not exactly what you need, but shows and example of how to write such script |
| 13:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5608 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mdhafen, Failed QA , Tool to move MARC21 series info to 490 tag |
| 13:45 | WaylonR | k.... |
| 13:45 | * WaylonR | sighs. |
| 14:24 | WaylonR | jcamins_away, i have no idea which field has the suspect wide characters, what am i supposed to do? |
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| 14:24 | alohabot | Hi mib_g8zgwc, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 14:26 | cait | bgkriegel the sign off machine :) |
| 14:28 | weird | |
| 14:28 | the bug is passed qa, I enter my qa contact and it switches back to needs sign-off? | |
| 14:30 | bgkriegel | which one? |
| 14:30 | wahanui | which one is the "native" files? |
| 14:32 | cait | some today... I am just puzzled |
| 14:33 | * cait | wishes very hard git bz would also allow to set the qa contact |
| 14:38 | jcamins_away | WaylonR: check them all, probably. |
| 15:05 | cait | yay |
| 15:05 | all bootstrappy patches done!! | |
| 15:05 | and 31 patches waiting for jcamins_away :) | |
| 16:14 | bgkriegel | cait: could I mark a bug as "patch doesn't apply' ? |
| 16:15 | cait | yep |
| 16:15 | you can set everything I think apart from passed qa :) | |
| 16:15 | bgkriegel | :)ok |
| 16:15 | cait | that's the only one I think that would get you into trouble :) |
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| 16:55 | mveron | @seen mveron |
| 16:55 | huginn | mveron: mveron was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 6 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <mveron> BRB |
| 16:55 | mveron | ...oh, that is a long time. |
| 16:55 | Hi #koha | |
| 16:56 | cait | we were wondering about that brb :) |
| 16:56 | hi mveron :) | |
| 16:56 | mveron | hi cait :-) |
| 16:56 | cait: I can work on the German translation this evening, is that OK? | |
| 16:56 | cait | of course it is |
| 16:56 | I did 3.8 and 3.10 - still waiting a bit with 3.12 | |
| 16:56 | it's still changing some :) | |
| 16:57 | mveron | But it's OK to work on 3.12? |
| 16:57 | cait | yep, only saying it's not in string freeze yet |
| 16:58 | mveron | Ok. |
| 16:58 | :-) | |
| 18:07 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 18:07 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 2.0°C (7:00 PM CET on February 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:08 | mveron | @wunder Basel |
| 18:08 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Bale-Mulhouse, Switzerland is 2.0°C (7:00 PM CET on February 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:23 | bgkriegel | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 18:23 | huginn | bgkriegel: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 19.0°C (3:00 PM ART on February 17, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
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| 18:45 | koyauni | when I run this (sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full -v), nothing happens and no error messages seen, what does it mean exactly, please |
| 18:46 | rangi | it means you havent put in the instance name |
| 19:16 | cait | oh fines |
| 19:16 | nice. | |
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| 19:43 | cait | hm |
| 19:43 | anyone here? :) | |
| 19:44 | * phasefx | is lurking |
| 19:45 | cait | if ( DateTime->compare( $datedue, $today ) == 1 ) { |
| 19:45 | next; # not overdue | |
| 19:45 | does this make sense? | |
| 19:45 | hehe | |
| 19:45 | never mind | |
| 19:45 | wahanui | Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot. |
| 19:45 | cait | :) |
| 19:46 | wahanui, you are so right sometimes | |
| 19:46 | wahanui | ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.|a little bit creepy.... |
| 19:46 | phasefx | haha |
| 19:46 | cait | wahanui is also right sometimes |
| 19:46 | wahanui | okay, cait. |
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| 20:03 | alohabot | Hi mib_el8epc, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 20:35 | mveron | alohabot? |
| 20:35 | wahanui | i heard alohabot was a little tool :) but welcome :) |
| 20:35 | mveron | wahanui? |
| 20:35 | wahanui | yes, mveron? |
| 20:35 | mveron | huginn? |
| 20:35 | wahanui | i think huginn is a bot too veera, not a person |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | forget huginn |
| 20:36 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot huginn |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | huginn is a bot, not a person. |
| 20:37 | huginn | wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | huginn? |
| 20:37 | wahanui | hmmm... huginn is a bot, not a person. |
| 20:38 | cait | hey wizzyrea :) |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | hi :) |
| 20:38 | cait | if there is a wizzyrea... hi kathryn :) |
| 20:38 | kathryn | hi cait :) |
| 20:40 | cait | how is wellington today? |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | it's been lovely for a few days now |
| 20:42 | ok, humor me - what is the stated purpose for "export today's checked in barcodes" | |
| 20:42 | rather, does anyone know where the bug for that is | |
| 20:42 | because I'm really curious :P | |
| 20:43 | cait | ah |
| 20:43 | it's a french thing | |
| 20:43 | a ... communal? library lending to other libraries | |
| 20:43 | so they check out the books and then ... give them a file or something | |
| 20:44 | quite sure I am not making sense, I am going to find it for you | |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | huh. |
| 20:45 | cait | paul explained it somewhere |
| 20:46 | but bugzilla is.. slooow | |
| 20:46 | hm of course... and rangi is not around, right? | |
| 20:46 | gives me a 504 | |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | he just left |
| 20:46 | * wizzyrea | might have a login sec |
| 20:47 | cait | oh it's back |
| 20:47 | weird | |
| 20:47 | I had a perl error even | |
| 20:47 | now it seems to be ok | |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | bug 7708 |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7708 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Import/export from a special library (french BDPs) |
| 20:48 | cait | hm ther eis something |
| 20:48 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7986 | |
| 20:48 | huginn | 04Bug 7986: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Export issues |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | bug 6751 |
| 20:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6751 enhancement, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Link in readingrec.pl to export a barcode file |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | but it's escaped out of readingrec.pl |
| 20:49 | dk if that was intentional | |
| 20:49 | maybe a side effect of bootstrap work | |
| 20:49 | cait | hm |
| 20:50 | not sure | |
| 20:50 | it'sin more, so maybe it's ok? | |
| 20:50 | to have it everywhere? | |
| 20:50 | i'd like routing lists to only show up when there is a routing list | |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea: do you want to switch bug 8451 to in discussion? | |
| 20:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8451 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Confusing and problematic double prompt for processing transfers |
| 20:55 | cait | brb |
| 21:00 | back | |
| 21:04 | hm | |
| 21:08 | did you know that every time fine runs a file with patron infomration is created? | |
| 21:08 | fines.pl that is | |
| 21:08 | that's... not good | |
| 21:08 | * cait | gets headaches thinking about her data privacy documentation |
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| 21:32 | eythian | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/201[…]st-of-disagreeing |
| 21:32 | cait | morning eythian |
| 21:32 | eythian | hello cait |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | something that Tim Berners-Lee said, that I felt was apt - was that one has to respect the sacrifice of those who work to develop at the speed of consensus. |
| 21:33 | as a lone company, or a small team, that's easy | |
| 21:34 | not so easy when it's koha-sized | |
| 21:34 | but still a worthy goal I think | |
| 21:36 | cait | yep |
| 21:36 | bit hard sometimes, but worth it | |
| 21:36 | wizzyrea | and as we've seen, going on your own doesn't always pay. :/ |
| 21:40 | cait | wizzyrea: could you take a look at bug 9253? |
| 21:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9253 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , If an item is reserved, at the opac it is marked as available |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | sure :) |
| 21:42 | well, an item is not available when it is in transit or waiting | |
| 21:43 | currently though, you can't differentiate between a transfer that belongs to a hold | |
| 21:43 | and a regular transfer | |
| 21:43 | regarding availability, every library's definition is different - in some libraries items are available unless they are checked out | |
| 21:44 | in others they are available only if they are not in transit or waiting or checked out | |
| 21:45 | cait | yeah that was what I was thinking |
| 21:45 | if it's on the shelf still, it's fair game | |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | @quote get 123 |
| 21:45 | wahanui | http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 21:45 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | and any other variants |
| 21:45 | most places, I think, would agree that an item is unavailable and should be marked as such if an item is in transit for a hold, or waiting | |
| 21:46 | cait | what is in transit for a hold? |
| 21:46 | wizzyrea | when you check out a book at library A for a patron at library b |
| 21:46 | cait | I thik the items we are taking about here are neither |
| 21:46 | not necessarily | |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | it will come up eventually |
| 21:47 | cait | i am not sure I get the http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]CheckReservesdocs |
| 21:47 | hm | |
| 21:47 | http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]tml#CheckReserves | |
| 21:47 | because waitin gis another status | |
| 21:47 | I see that transit is another | |
| 21:47 | but what is reserved?? | |
| 21:48 | I tihnk I will leave that for another day | |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | hm |
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| 22:17 | cait | hi dcook |
| 22:18 | dcook | hi cait :) |
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| 22:36 | jops | hi all |
| 22:37 | cait | hi jops |
| 22:38 | jops | we happily made an istance of koha in our server for our library (social history) |
| 22:40 | we discovered that we have only the default MARC framework and don't know why we don't have the other frameworks as reported in the wiki. We don't know what went wrong in installation | |
| 22:41 | cait | you have to tick a checkbox to get the additional framework |
| 22:41 | s | |
| 22:41 | they are optional | |
| 22:41 | which language is your installation? | |
| 22:41 | tick the checkbox during installation | |
| 22:41 | jops | Installation language is in english |
| 22:41 | ah! right | |
| 22:42 | so what do you suggest? | |
| 22:43 | Can we recover it? | |
| 22:43 | cait | you can load them probably |
| 22:43 | you have to find the sql file that is used to create them and load that into your database | |
| 22:43 | or you rerun the installer - but that will mean losing all the work you did so far | |
| 22:44 | jops | yes, we tried to find the sql with the frameworks |
| 22:45 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/MARC_frameworks | |
| 22:45 | we were searching the books one | |
| 22:49 | all this, is because we have added a catalog from another library that has few marc fields compiled | |
| 22:50 | and the best for us, for cataloguing our books, wuold be a specific marc framework, less dispersive | |
| 22:50 | cait | the normal books is not a lot shorter |
| 22:50 | you might want to look into creating your own frameworks | |
| 22:50 | jops | ah ok |
| 22:51 | wizzyrea | jops, the sql to import for the frameworks is in installer/data/mysql/en/marcflavour/marc21/optional |
| 22:51 | fastadd may be what you want | |
| 22:51 | cait | the sql files should be in installer/data/mysql/en/marcflavour/marc21/optional/ |
| 22:51 | in your koha directory | |
| 22:51 | jops | ok, i-ll check it |
| 22:51 | cait | ah now wizzyrea was faster |
| 22:52 | jops | :) |
| 22:52 | wizzyrea | like first time ever :) |
| 22:52 | cait | heh |
| 22:54 | wizzyrea | also simple bib |
| 22:59 | @wunder wellington, nz | |
| 22:59 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on February 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising). |
| 22:59 | cait | good night all :) |
| 22:59 | cait left #koha | |
| 22:59 | eythian | later caiter |
| 23:03 | jops | thank you for your support cait |
| 23:06 | wizzyrea: we find the simple_bib you suggested. We have to import in the marc framework in the koha administration backend? | |
| 23:08 | wizzyrea | I haven't ever tried that, tbh. I was thinking something using the command line like mysql -ukoha_instance -p koha_instance < marc21_simple_bib_frameworks.sql - but I would try importing it through the interface (and let us know if it works) |
| 23:09 | koha_instance you replace with your instance name of course | |
| 23:09 | at least the word "instance" | |
| 23:10 | if you named your instance "library" it would be koha_library, for example | |
| 23:12 | (all that assumes you are using the packages) | |
| 23:15 | eythian | if you are using the packages, use the koha-mysql command to get things into mysql. |
| 23:16 | it'll save looking up passwords etc. | |
| 23:16 | wizzyrea | ^^ also this. |
| 23:17 | do it the other way if you used the tarball | |
| 23:17 | jops | thank you both, we execute the query directly in mysql |
| 23:17 | and it works. But actually there are more fields! | |
| 23:18 | wizzyrea | for fast add? |
| 23:18 | jops | simple_bib |
| 23:18 | wizzyrea | fast add is as short as it gets |
| 23:18 | jops | and are absent the 200 and 215 fields |
| 23:19 | but maybe it's because we have an unimarc istance and the frameworks are for marc21? | |
| 23:20 | ofastadd? ok we'll try it now | |
| 23:21 | (and all because we have imported a pmb marc catalog from another library) | |
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