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01:51 | eythian | @wunder wh1081 |
01:51 | huginn | eythian: Error: No such location could be found. |
01:51 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence, ks |
01:51 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 20.8°C (7:51 PM CST on January 28, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.66 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
01:51 | wizzyrea | WHAT |
01:51 | madness. | |
01:51 | wahanui | madness is manyfold - ask me for the second sign of madness. |
02:09 | wizzyrea | second sign of madness? |
02:09 | wahanui | second sign of madness is, like, hairs on the palms of my hands |
02:09 | * wizzyrea | nods |
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02:52 | rangi | http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominio[…]s-Mt-Vic-moonrise |
02:55 | talljoy++ | |
03:13 | eythian | wahanui: spell gud is <reply>Possible spellings for gud: Gd bud cud dud IUD mud gad god gum gun Gus gut guy |
04:18 | so there's biblio.notes and biblioitems.notes. Are they actually both used ever? | |
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04:48 | mtj | eythian, yes… i think both are mapped to a marc framework subfield |
04:52 | hmm, im wrong - only biblio.notes is mapped, to 500a | |
04:52 | marc 500a | |
04:53 | @marc 500 a | |
04:53 | huginn | mtj: General note |
04:54 | mtj | … and item.itemnotes is mapped to 952z, too |
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06:25 | libsysguy | anybody else seeing some slowness with gitbz attaches |
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06:36 | libsysguy | cait! |
06:36 | cait | good morning libsysguy :) |
06:36 | libsysguy | morning cait |
06:36 | * magnuse | waves |
06:37 | cait | libsysguy: shouldn't you be sleeping? |
06:37 | morning magnuse :) | |
06:37 | libsysguy | I should…but I can't |
06:38 | so I'm patching instead | |
06:38 | the best code is written late at night | |
06:38 | and I need to be delirious to be working in addbiblio.pl | |
06:38 | magnuse | hehe |
06:39 | libsysguy | we have a request for a save and contine editing option in addbiblio |
06:40 | * libsysguy | is trying to figure out how to do that :-/ |
06:45 | cait | oh hm |
06:45 | libsysguy | it saves weird |
06:52 | magnuse | and not just because what it saves is MARC? ;-) |
06:52 | libsysguy | heh indeed, it uses CGI::scrolling_list |
06:53 | why can't it just post like a well behaved fuction | |
07:01 | cait | yeah it shouldn't use that |
07:02 | * libsysguy | is not touching that |
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07:26 | rangi | any instances of that need to die, there is a bug for it, but id do it as a separate patch |
07:27 | evening | |
07:28 | cait | evening |
07:32 | magnuse | evening rangi |
07:33 | rangi | hey magnuse |
07:33 | wahanui | rumour has it magnuse is a Norwegian giant |
07:34 | magnuse | moahaha |
07:34 | libsysguy | is that the Norwegian belly laugh |
07:34 | magnuse | yup |
07:35 | libsysguy | libsysguy |
07:35 | wahanui | it has been said that libsysguy is dealing with infinity when dealing with spansets |
07:35 | magnuse | or the james bond evil villain laugh |
07:35 | libsysguy | hah |
07:35 | libsysguy? | |
07:35 | wahanui | you are dealing with infinity when dealing with spansets |
07:35 | libsysguy | argh who changed mine |
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07:37 | magnuse | @wunder Karasjok |
07:37 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is -12.2°C (8:37 AM CET on January 29, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Rising). |
07:38 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
07:38 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.6°C (8:35 AM CET on January 29, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
07:38 | cait | aah |
07:38 | nice | |
07:38 | ok :) bbl! | |
07:38 | * Oak | waves |
07:38 | magnuse | karasjok is 26 degrees less cold than yesterday :-) |
07:38 | Oak | |
07:38 | Oak | magnuse |
07:38 | magnuse | :-) |
07:38 | Oak | :) |
07:39 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
07:39 | cait | hi Oak :) |
07:39 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 29, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Grains. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.06 in 984 hPa (Steady). |
07:39 | libsysguy | w00t 2 patches submitted in an hour |
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07:39 | Oak | Guten morgen cait |
07:39 | magnuse | libsysguy++ |
07:39 | Oak | libsysguy++ |
07:39 | libsysguy | I feel like its been awhile since I've submitted good code |
07:40 | and for that I am truely sorry | |
07:40 | magnuse | libsysguy: round off with two signoffs to make it a perfect day :-) |
07:40 | libsysguy | something about the dead of night with no distractions |
07:40 | heh | |
07:40 | rangi | :) |
07:40 | libsysguy | I can do some QAA |
07:40 | we probably need that more than SO | |
07:40 | rangi | yeah thats backed up a bit |
07:41 | libsysguy | yeah, typically the only time I really get to do it is friday |
07:41 | bag is nice enough to let me have a community day :D | |
07:41 | magnuse | bag++ |
07:42 | rangi: more food related traffic news from norway: here's 35 tons of cod liver oil blocking the road http://www.an.no/nyheter/article6467382.ece ;-) | |
07:42 | rangi | lol |
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07:49 | reiveune | hello |
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07:50 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune and khall |
07:51 | reiveune | hi :) |
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08:02 | libsysguy | I think khall just bounced |
08:02 | its 3 am his time | |
08:02 | heck its 2 am my time | |
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08:20 | gaetan_B | hello |
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08:22 | kf | back :) |
08:27 | and now it's deadly silent in here? :) | |
08:27 | @wunder Konstanz | |
08:27 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.9°C (9:25 AM CET on January 29, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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08:30 | magnuse | kf: yeah we decided to try and freak you out by prending we are not here |
08:32 | * kf | is totally freaked out |
08:38 | magnuse | mohahaha |
08:40 | drojf | goof morning |
08:40 | err | |
08:40 | good | |
08:40 | kf | morning drojf |
08:41 | drojf | we'll see about the goof part :D |
08:41 | hi kf | |
08:41 | magnuse | goofy morning, drojf! |
08:41 | drojf | lol. hey magnuse |
08:41 | kf | goofy morning is fine for me :) |
08:42 | can we have a cookie battle? | |
08:42 | drojf | is that a battle with cookies, or for cookies? |
08:42 | kf | hm |
08:42 | with | |
08:43 | although I would prefer if you did not throw your gluten free ones in my direction but normal cookies :P | |
08:43 | drojf | gluten free is harder, i'll win :D |
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08:43 | gaetan_B | in 3.8 leaving the search field blank in the patrons module and validating the form used to return the complete list of borrowers, in 3.10 it says "no results found" is it the intended behaviour ?* |
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08:53 | kf1 | gaetan_B: I think it's a bug |
08:54 | not sure it's filed yet, but we talked about it in irc some evening with liz | |
08:55 | gaetan_B | kf: ah yes it' is filed bug 9338 :) |
08:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9338 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 'Empty' patron search no longer returns all patrons |
08:55 | kf | oops and it was me |
08:55 | gaetan_B | :) |
08:55 | kf | gaetan_B: you could give it a little nudge maybe |
08:55 | gaetan_B | yep |
08:59 | magnuse | kf++ for filing bugs in her sleep :-) |
08:59 | kf | um thx? |
09:02 | magnuse | :-) |
09:08 | gerundio | good morning |
09:10 | kf | morning gerundio |
09:12 | gerundio | kf :) |
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09:23 | kf | magnuse++ |
09:23 | drojf | there wouldn't be some kind of graphic representation available of what koha xslt files do with the controlfields? i'm mainly looking into 008 at the moment but other fields may follow |
09:24 | magnuse | not that i know of |
09:24 | * drojf | kicks MARC gently in the balls |
09:24 | kf | graphic? |
09:24 | libsysguy | only gently |
09:24 | kf | lol |
09:24 | libsysguy: go to bed! | |
09:24 | libsysguy | I'm trying to catch you for QA |
09:24 | * magnuse | shouts #marcmustdie at the top of his lungs |
09:24 | libsysguy | but I do need to sleep soon |
09:25 | drojf | kf: well, i don't know. something that is less painful than searching through all the weird constraints in the file :D |
09:25 | i hate that field | |
09:25 | kf | drojf: you will be happy to know that result list and detail pages work differently |
09:25 | drojf | also i wonder why there is one staff client xslt that uses like 10 subfields and the others use only 008/21 |
09:26 | kf | yep exactly that |
09:26 | drojf | yeah i know, it's cool, right??? |
09:26 | :P | |
09:26 | kf | the code needs... lots of .... |
09:26 | libsysguy | okay I'm at 10 for th emonth |
09:26 | drojf | recycle bin? |
09:26 | :D | |
09:26 | libsysguy | I think that means I can finish for tongiht |
09:26 | gnight all | |
09:26 | drojf | good night libsysguy |
09:28 | kf | drojf: yeah |
09:28 | magnuse | and there is tons of copy-and-paste between the xslt files... |
09:28 | kf | drojf: I had a complaint of one of our libraries for the wrong symbol showing... I tried but got so confused I ran out screaming |
09:29 | drojf: what woudl be cool would be to make it an include | |
09:29 | like utils | |
09:29 | we would still need 2 files, but there is no point in having all the code in there I think | |
09:29 | and we coudl use the same for results and detail | |
09:30 | magnuse | includes++ |
09:31 | xslt-- | |
09:31 | ;-) | |
09:32 | kf | xslt++ |
09:32 | I like it | |
09:32 | it's like with zebra | |
09:33 | not its fault when we don't use it in a smart way | |
09:34 | drojf | there is a smart way to use zebra? :D |
09:36 | kf | jcamins is on vacation, but he could tell you :) |
09:36 | drojf | meh. so we got >0°. and to celebrate that, we got rain |
09:36 | kf | I think most of our problems stem from Search.pm |
09:36 | drojf: lol | |
09:36 | magnuse | @karma C4::Search |
09:36 | huginn | magnuse: Karma for "C4::Search" has been increased 0 times and decreased 32 times for a total karma of -32. |
09:37 | drojf | @karma Search.pm |
09:37 | huginn | drojf: Karma for "Search.pm" has been increased 0 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of -2. |
09:37 | magnuse | hehe, i think people tend to agree with you, kf |
09:37 | kf | @karma Search.pm |
09:37 | huginn | kf: Karma for "Search.pm" has been increased 0 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of -2. |
09:37 | kf | ah riht, you did that :) |
09:39 | drojf | lol |
09:52 | hm. SRU works fine, unfortunately i am too stupid to read the data with javascript/jquery :( | |
09:53 | magnuse | process marcxml with javascript? sounds scary... ;-) |
09:55 | drojf | i would probably take dublin core ;) |
09:57 | kf | drojf: what are you trying to do? |
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09:57 | kf | morning paul_p |
09:57 | paul_p: my train tickets to marseille arrived :) | |
10:00 | paul_p | hello kf. |
10:00 | nice about tickets to marseille ;-) | |
10:00 | * paul_p | still recovering from flu. one full week AFK... |
10:01 | kf | oh no |
10:01 | pastebot | "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Update subfield 995$b / item's homebranch" (40 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/372 |
10:02 | gerundio | I'm using that code snippet in a script to update subfield 995$b / item's homebranc |
10:02 | can anyone take a look and find out why it isn't working as expected? | |
10:03 | kf | gerundio: what does it do? |
10:03 | or not do :) | |
10:03 | I think you want to update all items to have complete information? | |
10:03 | gerundio | it should update 995$b to the value FCT |
10:04 | for the records from the items table that don't have the homebranch as NULL | |
10:04 | kf | ew |
10:04 | word decided to open links in ie suddenly | |
10:04 | *shudder* | |
10:04 | gerundio | 995$b is mapped to that column |
10:05 | ..oo(gotta love all that messed up MS integration!!) | |
10:05 | magnuse | gerundio: how *is* it working? what is it doing that you did not expect? |
10:05 | gerundio | magnuse, it isn't doing anything |
10:05 | all records fall into the 1st condition | |
10:05 | magnuse | oops :-= |
10:05 | gerundio | none of them as the 995 tag |
10:05 | magnuse | huh :-) |
10:05 | gerundio | so if (!$field) returns true |
10:06 | kf | hm |
10:06 | maybe it that is true? | |
10:06 | I think we only put item information to the marcxml for indexing? | |
10:06 | gerundio | as it shoudl |
10:06 | should ^^ | |
10:06 | kf | maybe instead of using the bilbio functions you could look into items? |
10:06 | magnuse | good point from kf |
10:06 | kf | I mean there shoudl be routines to update item related information |
10:07 | gerundio | but the parent field doesn't even exist in this case |
10:07 | I made code for all the conditions I remembered | |
10:07 | kf | not sure your script will make it go to zebraqueue too |
10:07 | gerundio | 1 -> tag doesn't exist |
10:07 | kf | gerundio: in the database there is no 995 in marcxml |
10:07 | never | |
10:07 | gerundio | 2 -> tag 995 exists, subfield b doesn't |
10:08 | 3-> subfield 995$b already exists | |
10:08 | right, it saves as 999 | |
10:08 | is that it? | |
10:08 | kf | hm not even that |
10:08 | wahanui | not even that is cold :) |
10:08 | kf | that is marc_subfields_xml |
10:08 | that is only the additional fields | |
10:08 | not sure I can explain that right | |
10:08 | gerundio | you mean items' more_subfields_xml |
10:08 | kf | yep |
10:09 | there it's 999 | |
10:09 | but that's nothing to do with the marcxml later on | |
10:10 | gerundio | not sure I understand |
10:10 | what is the correct way to update this | |
10:11 | regarding your comment on zebraqueue, by using ModBiblio I'm making sure that it will updated there, right? | |
10:12 | kf | gerundio: I am sorry, I have never written or used a script like that - I am not sure |
10:12 | gerundio | kf, thanks anyway :) |
10:12 | kf | for item information it might be enough to update the items table with sql and do a complete reindex |
10:12 | because items are not stored together with the bibliographic information | |
10:12 | gerundio | kf, that's what I'm avoiding |
10:12 | no direct SQL injection | |
10:13 | by using Koha library methods I'm sure not to break indexes | |
10:17 | magnuse | i agree with kf - i think the only place you can edit the item info is in the db |
10:18 | gerundio | magnuse, I've done it before in other scripts |
10:18 | though this is the 1st time I have to add a full field | |
10:19 | magnuse | maybe have a look at C4::Items::ModItem() ? |
10:22 | gerundio | I have |
10:23 | but the field doesn't even exist in this case | |
10:23 | I need to update 995$b but there's no 995 tag | |
10:23 | kf | if there is no 995 there is no item |
10:23 | that's what we are trying to tell you :) | |
10:25 | gerundio | that's why I add it with |
10:25 | $field = MARC::Field->new( | |
10:25 | '995', '', '', | |
10:25 | 'b' => 'FCT' | |
10:25 | ); | |
10:25 | $record->insert_fields_ordered($field); | |
10:25 | wait the item record exists | |
10:25 | so, there is a item | |
10:26 | kf | why would you add the field? when there is no titem? |
10:26 | I think that is not right | |
10:26 | a 995 indicates an item and I think you only want to update incomplete item records? | |
10:27 | pastebot | "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "MySQL item record with no 995$b nor homebranch set" (57 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/373 |
10:28 | gerundio | kf, take a look at that MySQL item record |
10:28 | no 995$b in more_subfields_xml and homebranch is NULL | |
10:28 | kf | gerundio: I think there is a basic misunderstanding how koha works |
10:28 | gerundio | since they are mapped to each other I wan't to set it |
10:29 | kf | yes, you should have homebranch and holdingbranch set |
10:29 | forget about more_subfields_xml | |
10:29 | item data in koha is stored in the items table. | |
10:29 | for indexing, koha takes the contents of the items table and adds it to the marcxml record. for each line in items, there is one 995 field. | |
10:29 | gerundio | unless we're dealing with unmapped fields, right? |
10:29 | kf | mappings are irrelevant |
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10:33 | gerundio | so, replacing all that code for something like ModItem({'homebranch' => 'FCT'}, $biblionumber, $itemnumber); should be enough? |
10:37 | skk | i am trying to set UniqueItemfields as barcode but it does not seem to work. I tried adding one accession number and then ordering new book and giving same accession number system does not give any message but keeps that item as blank |
10:37 | without any barvode | |
10:37 | gerundio | kf++ magnuse++ ModItem({'homebranch' => 'FCT'}, $biblionumber, $itemnumber); did the trick |
10:39 | kf | skk: which version are you looking at? |
10:39 | gerundio: sorry, at work, can't always pay attention here | |
10:40 | gerundio | kf, no problem, that's IRC ;) you were of great help |
10:40 | drojf | wow, jquery sucks. i found like 10 solutions for a problem and each stopped working in a later version. |
10:40 | kf | ah and yes, for unmapped fields that have not their own column in the items table they end up in more_subfields_xml |
10:40 | bad at explaining probably :) | |
10:45 | gerundio | drojf, it's evolution |
10:46 | drojf | gerundio: it's only evolution if it works now |
10:46 | so far i don't see how | |
10:46 | gerundio | ehehe |
10:47 | just making a Pearl Jam song quote that fits the situation | |
10:47 | what are you trying to do, maybe I or someone else here can help | |
10:48 | drojf | parse xml that i get from SRU. apparently it does not like namespace prefixes |
10:49 | anyway, to the library. later. /o/ | |
10:49 | gerundio | cya later, good luck with that |
11:01 | skk | 3.8.6 |
11:03 | kf | hm I think there was a bug with that, but not sure which version |
11:03 | skk: maybe try checking bugzilla? | |
11:03 | bugs? | |
11:03 | wahanui | well, bugs is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org. Please fix any bugs you find. :) or reporting them is helpful, too. |
11:04 | skk | hmm 8684 number has reported this issue |
11:05 | kf | bug 8684 |
11:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8684 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Duplicate check for creating items on order broken |
11:05 | * kf | has a de ja vu |
11:05 | kf | oh right, I reported that |
11:06 | skk: you could add your version and the behavioru there - it could help getting it fixed | |
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11:27 | kf | biblibre++ |
11:33 | magnuse | yup biblibre++ |
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12:00 | tcohen | morrrning #koha |
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12:18 | drojf | ready or not, here i come |
12:20 | gerundio | kf do you recall telling me that I should always run the batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl script after making changes in the Koha to MARC mapping? |
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13:21 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
13:28 | drojf | hi oleonard |
13:29 | * drojf | wonders if it is fullmoon or why all the patrons talk all the time today |
13:29 | drojf | get off my librarylawn |
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14:02 | drojf | who of you geeks smuggled 'comic books' into 008/33:literary form for books? LOC does not have that field ;) |
14:03 | magnuse | drojf: "git blame" will tell you :-) |
14:04 | drojf | it may have been in an older MARC version. i found several differences between LOC and kohas XSLT file |
14:07 | jcamins_away | drojf: it was obsoleted in 2008. |
14:08 | * chris_n | tells jcamins_away to get back to vacation ;-) |
14:08 | drojf | thanks for ending your holiday early to tell me this, jcamins_away. it was not that important though ;) |
14:10 | magnuse | lol |
14:13 | drojf | so what is our policay on MARC changes? should that in theory be up to date or do we want to retain backwards compatibility for people that catalogued their comic books pre-2008? |
14:15 | gerundio | anyone here is familiarized with the batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl script? |
14:16 | I've done Koha to MARC mapping for some items' table columns | |
14:17 | but running the script doesn't update the items' columns values with the values stored in the XML | |
14:18 | I've looked into the script source code and noticed that the localNEWmodbiblio function calls C4::Biblio::_koha_modify_biblio and C4::Biblio::_koha_modify_biblioitem_nonmarc | |
14:18 | but nothing to work the updates on the data stored in the items table | |
14:21 | the source code has some references to @items, which are processed for each biblio | |
14:22 | but I don't see them being used anywhere | |
14:22 | liw | any Koha people going to FOSDEM? |
14:43 | magnuse | liw: not i. are you? |
14:44 | liw | I am |
14:44 | magnuse | yay |
14:45 | been there before? | |
14:45 | liw | a few times |
14:45 | (including giving one of the keynotes last year) | |
14:45 | magnuse | cool! |
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14:50 | H | Hey Koha ... almost there i asked to copy our koha to the production environment and afther that it will be online (test server has all the data in it now (it was a fight)) ... thx already to all tips we got in the chat room :) |
14:51 | drojf | congratulations H |
14:51 | H | well copy'ing can go wrong so i hope it wont ;) |
14:51 | magnuse | H++ |
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15:07 | oleonard | jcamins_away: Do we have a template variable for just "/intranet-tmpl/" or do we hard code it? |
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15:08 | jcamins_away | oleonard: good question! |
15:08 | oleonard | Hm, looks like maybe "interface?" |
15:08 | jcamins_away | [% interface %] |
15:08 | * oleonard | is looking at Templates.pm |
15:08 | jcamins_away | Yeah. |
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15:20 | oleonard | I guess I didn't realize we were ready to start moving things to intranet-tmpl/lib. There's a fair amount of stuff that can be easily moved |
15:20 | libsysguy | that should make it easier to be cached right? |
15:21 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: weren't you just QAing things six hours ago? |
15:21 | libsysguy | yes |
15:21 | I was | |
15:21 | jcamins_away | oleonard: well, moving things that are already in prog/en can wait, but since it has to be done eventually, we might as well start with Bootstrap in the right place. |
15:22 | oleonard | jcamins_away: can wait, or should wait? |
15:23 | jcamins_away | oleonard: the former. If someone felt like starting to move things, that'd be great. |
15:24 | libsysguy | ^^ |
15:26 | oleonard | Speaking of Bootstrap, QAing, etc: Now is a great time to remember Bug 9265! |
15:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9265 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Switch to HTML5 doctype in OPAC and staff client |
15:34 | gerundio | am I reading correctly, is Koha going to adopt Bootstrap soon? |
15:35 | oleonard | gerundio: We are beginning to incorporate elements of Bootstrap |
15:35 | gerundio | cool |
15:36 | I've been using it in a new internal project and I must say it's so good to be able to abstract myself from the look & feel of it | |
15:36 | everything looks good in desktop, laptops, mobiles and tablets | |
15:38 | oleonard | gerundio: We don't have any plans at this point to convert the staff client to use the Bootstrap grid |
15:38 | gerundio: That would be a pretty huge undertaking | |
15:39 | gerundio | have you simply try to use bootstrap CSS to overide koha's current styles and see how it looked? |
15:39 | oleonard | Yes. There are a fair amount of conflicts, and of course the grid system doesn't work without HTML changes. |
15:40 | I say conflicts meaning styles we have defined which Bootstrap defines differently. | |
15:41 | gerundio | that's standard behavior, bootstrap uses very common class names |
15:41 | so conflicts are to be expected | |
15:41 | but the overall result is very messy? | |
15:42 | oleonard | Yes |
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15:44 | skk | we imported lot of data from excel to marc 21 and then to koha. when we try to check authority records it says no results. is there any way to get these records searched by authority database as well |
15:44 | jcamins_away | No. Authority records and bibliographic records are completely different things. |
15:45 | You would need to create authority records and load those. | |
15:46 | skk | for new books it automatically creates authority records but the old retrospective data which is already imported into koha we were wondering hw to make them available in authority database as well |
15:47 | jcamins_away | You would need to generate authorities from the CSV file. |
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15:53 | oleonard | Hi kf |
15:55 | kf | hi oleonard :) |
15:55 | going through the release notes for 3.8 and 3.10 | |
15:55 | totally overwhelmed | |
15:56 | we keep changing so many thigns!! | |
15:56 | magnuse | that's good, right? |
15:56 | kf | hehe yeah |
15:56 | but right now I just think what I have to go though in testing and documenting | |
15:56 | and that's pretty overwhelming :) | |
15:57 | magnuse | write test scripts! |
15:57 | and don't lag behind the versions ;-) | |
15:57 | kf | :P |
15:57 | magnuse | i just say "here are the release notes"... |
15:58 | kf | :) |
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16:10 | gerundio | kf do you recall telling me that I should always run the batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl script after making changes in the Koha to MARC mapping? |
16:29 | kf | gerundio: I think that only applies if you do changes on biblioitems/biblio |
16:29 | gerundio | right |
16:29 | kf | I have never run it myself I have to say |
16:30 | gerundio | even so, do you feel capable of helping me figure out how to enable the script to update items records too? |
16:30 | kf | gerundio: I think youmight better ask someone else |
16:31 | I have never poked around in that code so far | |
16:31 | gerundio | kf, np, thanks anyway :) |
16:31 | just got a new one in :s | |
16:32 | does field bibliosubject.subject mean anything to anyone? | |
16:33 | oleonard | gerundio: I don't think bibliosubject is used anymore |
16:34 | gerundio | right oleonard, I found no traces of it anywhere |
16:35 | even so in the MARC framework editor, field 606$a was showing a reference to it | |
16:37 | oleonard, the mistery just got solved | |
16:38 | someone imported MARC frameworks from a 3.2 koha setup into our own 3.8 setup to use as starting point | |
16:38 | everyday a new surprise :s | |
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16:47 | kf | bye all :) |
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16:55 | gerundio | off-topic: for the Raspberry PI owners out there - http://xbmc.org/natethomas/201[…]/xbmc-12-0-frodo/ |
17:02 | rambutan | gerundio: there are actually a few of us RPi owners on the board here. I've got two, my tech assistant has 1 or 2, and drojf works with them too |
17:02 | gerundio | we've talked about it the other day |
17:03 | drojf | rambutan: jcamins_away and magnus_away got some too :) |
17:03 | gerundio | I think it was when drojf got his |
17:04 | btw, just read that Google gave a grath worth $1M to donate 15k PIs to U.K. schoolkids | |
17:04 | http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3158 | |
17:08 | drojf | that would make a cool cluster |
17:13 | libsysguy | dang it |
17:13 | I was just about to link paul_p to this: http://i.imgur.com/k4zJ43F.jpg | |
17:14 | @later tell paul_p: http://i.imgur.com/k4zJ43F.jpg | |
17:14 | huginn | libsysguy: The operation succeeded. |
17:16 | oleonard | I think Germany if the caption is correct: http://washingtonpoststyle.tum[…]ince-alexander-of |
17:17 | More unsourced notes: http://catacombes.tumblr.com/post/34289215095 | |
17:18 | libsysguy | damn you and your searching skills oleonard |
17:25 | liw | we have not come to damn searching skills, we have come to praise them. /me nominates oleonard as the #koha dedicated search engine |
17:25 | oleonard | :P |
17:26 | I'll commit only to searching for the details of any unsourced images referencing French stereotypes | |
17:26 | reiveune | bye |
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17:26 | * libsysguy | accepts oleonards proposal |
17:29 | Dyrcona | Reminds me of my childhood in Hillbillyvania. |
17:29 | Minus the royal title.... ;) | |
17:29 | oleonard | Replace that bottle with a 2-liter of Mountain Dew? |
17:30 | Dyrcona | No, a quart of Pabtz Blue Ribbon. |
17:30 | oleonard | That comes in quarts? :) |
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17:30 | alohabot | Hi mib_e0nfj0, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
17:30 | rambutan | new bot? |
17:30 | oleonard | Nice enhancement to alohabot |
17:31 | Old bot that didn't do anything before I don't think | |
17:31 | Dyrcona | It used to. |
17:34 | mib_e0nfj0 | hi, i got a problem with koha mapping, it says "The biblio.biblionumber and biblioitems.biblioitemnumber fields be mapped to a MARC subfield" in the test,but if i continue using the default settings and using Koha version:3.08.06.000, i can do any searches :S any sugestions? |
17:34 | cant* | |
17:43 | any1? | |
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18:01 | tcohen | how do I search for a title using yaz? |
18:02 | (a Koha's zebra biblio DB) | |
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18:10 | jcamins_away | I have found the place to buy Bok Choy! :D |
18:10 | tcohen: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s_a_Z39.50_server | |
18:10 | cait | bok choy? |
18:10 | jcamins_away | tcohen: sorry, wrong link. |
18:10 | cait | in california? :) |
18:10 | jcamins_away | I meant... |
18:10 | tcohen | ah, you're on vacation! |
18:10 | jcamins_away | tcohen: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Zebra_indexing |
18:10 | cait | and you are on vacation!! |
18:10 | jcamins_away | cait: in New York. |
18:11 | cait | oh? |
18:11 | jcamins_away | But I had the desperate need to find out where to buy bok choi! |
18:11 | And once I had found out, I thought y'all might need to know that. | |
18:12 | cait | you are getting thta bored already? :) |
18:12 | jcamins_away | I had an inspiration about what I wanted to serve for dinner on February 23. |
18:12 | druthb | @quote get 232 |
18:12 | huginn | druthb: Quote #232: "<cait> oh... i miss myshkin <cait> I mean jared.. of course" (added by druthb at 06:31 PM, January 28, 2013) |
18:12 | * cait | hides |
18:12 | * druthb | whistles innocently |
18:13 | jcamins_away | lol |
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18:27 | rangi | Morning |
18:27 | wahanui | Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
18:29 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
18:29 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
18:30 | rangi | Hehe, there's not a single cloud anywhere |
18:31 | 5th day in a row, I don't have a wardrobe designed for this kind of weather | |
18:36 | cait | you don't have more than 5 t-shirts? :) |
18:38 | rangi | I have about 50 |
18:38 | It's shorts I'm low on | |
18:38 | cait | aah |
18:39 | rangi | Ok my stop |
18:39 | Be back after wellylibfast | |
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18:49 | alohabot | Hi mib_bz9hrr, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
18:51 | mib_bz9hrr | hi, im looking for help on error from marc mapping |
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18:59 | alohabot | Hi mib_y9ooho, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
19:00 | mib_y9ooho | hi looking for help on mapping errors |
19:00 | (got dc'ed a few minutes ago) | |
19:01 | oleonard | You can ask again mib_y9ooho, but I don't know if anyone new has appeared who can answer |
19:01 | mib_y9ooho | humm ok |
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19:03 | mib_y9ooho | i get this error in the test "The biblio.biblionumber and biblioitems.biblioitemnumber fields be mapped to a MARC subfield," after changing the the biblionumber to 001 , if i leave it to default i dont get error but i cant find anything in my DB |
19:04 | oleonard | Why did you change it? |
19:04 | mib_y9ooho | so, if left at default i cant search, im using Koha 3.08.06.000 |
19:04 | cause ^ | |
19:05 | oleonard | Koha to MARC mapping is not usually the cause of failed search |
19:05 | search faq? | |
19:05 | wahanui | search faq is http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
19:05 | mib_y9ooho | im importing the DB from DocBase btw |
19:07 | cait | mib_y9ooho: don't change it |
19:07 | oleonard | mib_y9ooho: I would leave your mapping as it was by default and check out the search faq |
19:07 | mib_y9ooho | only thing i changed was this "biblionumber001@control field" so i could search for books, im looking ate the faq |
19:07 | oleonard | 33000000072326 |
19:07 | Heh, sorry :) | |
19:09 | mib_y9ooho | ok so i read the FAQ and didnt really help fix my problem, lets say i got everything at default, i still cant search for my books ... :/ |
19:10 | oleonard | mib_y9ooho: Zebra is running? |
19:12 | mib_y9ooho | good question -.- im just conf. koha i didnt install it, im a student from my university and they made me config and ready koha for the library, but i didnt get to install or do any of the things before, is there any way i can check? |
19:13 | oleonard | Do you have command-line access to the server? |
19:14 | mib_y9ooho | erhmm nop -.- idk how they really want me to work, but if u can tell what to do ill just get them to do it |
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19:14 | alohabot | Hi mib_pueqov, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
19:14 | mib_y9ooho | even if its just a little help its better then sitting in the dark :S |
19:15 | this command? misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v | |
19:16 | oleonard | mib_y9ooho: That rebuilds the Zebra index if Zebra is already running |
19:16 | mib_y9ooho: The people who installed Koha should come back and confirm that it is installed correctly and that Zebra is running | |
19:16 | mib_y9ooho | humm ok |
19:16 | thanks | |
19:17 | oleonard | They built you a car with no engine mib_y9ooho :) |
19:18 | mib_y9ooho | yeah and they making me fix it for free -.- |
19:20 | well thanks for been so friendly and helpfull :) ima work on a diferent part of koha till they come back tomorrow | |
19:24 | cait | oleonard++ :) |
19:43 | oleonard | Bug 8007 introduces a python dependency. That seems odd. |
19:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8007 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Discharge management |
19:44 | cait | h |
19:44 | oh | |
19:45 | oleonard: also peopl eare supposed to create a htaccess file? | |
19:45 | oleonard | Yeah |
19:45 | cait | oleonard: not sur ethat the python-pisa is new tho |
19:45 | I think one of the print things uses it already | |
19:47 | oleonard: but I agree it seems a bit weird | |
19:47 | should be possible to replace with a perl module? | |
19:51 | * cait | goe to tidy up her kitchen |
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20:16 | rangi | back |
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20:26 | rangi | heh |
20:27 | wizzyrea | that's drupal |
20:29 | rangi | heh |
20:29 | wizzyrea | uh |
20:29 | cait | jcamins_away: guess you got drawn here because i am going to look at the query parser again :) |
20:30 | eythian | hi |
20:30 | jcamins_away | Yay! |
20:30 | I'll be leaving shortly. | |
20:30 | eythian | why thank you jcamins_away |
20:31 | jcamins_away | Argh! I can't use this stupid catalog. |
20:35 | Maybe I'll see if they have a copy of American Gods. | |
20:35 | I've never read it. | |
20:35 | rangi | ahh its a good read |
20:35 | jcamins_away | Thankfully it's fiction so the fact that I can't tell based on the catalog doesn't matter. |
20:35 | rangi | heh |
20:37 | eythian | yeah, you should read it, it's good. |
20:38 | * jcamins_away | would look to see if they had other books he wanted to read, except the catalog wouldn't help anyway. |
20:40 | cait | jcamins_away: you could try to persuade them to move to koha :) |
20:40 | jcamins_away | cait: hehe. |
20:57 | wizzyrea | oh hey oleonard |
20:57 | thanks for looking and doing that bootstrap stuff | |
20:58 | our student is going to be coming back on mondays (I think) to do more | |
20:58 | work - what do you think is the best way to go about that? | |
20:58 | cjh | oleonard++ |
20:58 | wizzyrea | so you're not duplicating effort |
20:59 | cait | oleonard: is there something we can help with? I would really like to see bootstrap in 3.12 |
20:59 | cjh | \o/ |
20:59 | cait | I think I will change the templates for now - make it links |
21:00 | and hope for the next version to fix it for good | |
21:00 | :) | |
21:01 | oleonard | wizzyrea: The next thing I want to start tackling is replacing YUI buttons, split buttons, and menu buttons. I think that means taking it on toolbar-by-toolbar basis |
21:01 | wizzyrea | would it be helpful if corey kind of eradicated the yui, then you can go through and style it? |
21:02 | rangi | theres librarians without borders too |
21:02 | eythian | oleonard: is it possible to make T::T modules for buttons, so the actual definitions are centralised? |
21:02 | cait | oleonard: could you start in circulation maybe? |
21:02 | rangi | its all very confusing :) |
21:02 | eythian | rangi: wouldn't they just collapse in a jelly-like heap on the ground? |
21:02 | cait | eythian: ? |
21:02 | rangi | eythian: only when confronted by a publishers unreasonable demands, that seems to be the natural response |
21:02 | eythian | if you remove the borders from a librarian, there's nothing to keep them in a people-shape. |
21:03 | jcamins_away | lol |
21:03 | cait | i was referring to the TT stuff :) |
21:03 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I'm not sure what you mean by eradicating YUI... I think the only way we can do it is to do it piece by piece so nothing is broken |
21:03 | wizzyrea | I mean, page by page, swap out the YUI for bootstrap standard buttons |
21:04 | then, much like what happened with the toolbar, clean it up and style it like koha? maybe that's not practical | |
21:04 | eythian | cait: oh, so instead of putting the HTML in for a button, you could just refer to a T::T module that does it for you. That way all buttons share common code. |
21:05 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Yeah, I don't have any specific plan to do custom styles on the buttons at this point, just trying to get things working in Bootstrap |
21:05 | eythian | So when we want to move to jquery-ng buttons 5 years from now, there's only one place to worry about. |
21:05 | cait | I am not sure how bootstrap buttons work and if we win a lot with it |
21:05 | we got includes for the toolbars now and the styling is central anyway | |
21:05 | cjh | eythian: awesome idea, that way we can easily rip out bootstrap and replace with something else |
21:05 | cait | ah |
21:05 | i see | |
21:05 | cjh | bootstrap buttons are really just css classes and ids |
21:05 | eythian | cait: sure, but every button still has to have its code written. |
21:06 | cait | hm if it's doable |
21:06 | don't want to overcomplicate this if possible | |
21:06 | oleonard | wizzyrea: My next step is to revive some code I did a couple months ago on a Bootstrap toolbar. Needs some heavy rebasing |
21:06 | wizzyrea | oleonard: we can do it however makes sense |
21:07 | we just want corey to feel helpful | |
21:07 | jcamins_away | And to make good use of his time. |
21:08 | oleonard | wizzyrea: There are a lot of examples of toolbars which aren't used on a lot of pages which could be quickly "upgraded" |
21:08 | wizzyrea: When will Corey return? | |
21:08 | wizzyrea | then maybe a better plan would be to declare what toolbars we are going to do |
21:09 | he's working out when he can come to Catalyst - his school term just started | |
21:10 | he has afternoon study period at 2pm our time on MOndays | |
21:10 | cjh | it sounded like he may still do some work at home, but no idea on times for that. |
21:10 | wizzyrea | and he may come in for several hours during that |
21:10 | and if we can get him set up properly, he can do work at home too if he wants | |
21:11 | he's pretty enthusiastic about the project | |
21:11 | :) | |
21:11 | cjh | xD |
21:12 | cait | well done cjh++ and wizzyrea++ :) |
21:14 | * oleonard | is not working at his normal location today and laptop is being difficult |
21:15 | wizzyrea | gr, stinky laptop |
21:16 | libsysguy | grr zebra indexer |
21:16 | sorry, is that not what we were doing? | |
21:16 | wizzyrea | hehe |
21:17 | libsysguy | I have a library that is running dom, and for some reason they can periodically search for barcodes |
21:17 | I think there might be an issue with the fast indexer and dom | |
21:17 | when I do a full index it works fine | |
21:18 | jcamins_away | Fast indexer = rebuild_zebra -z? |
21:18 | libsysguy | si |
21:18 | maybe not | |
21:19 | it seems that to get the fast indexer to work with the barcode you must pass the -x option | |
21:20 | jcamins_away | You should never not be using the -x option. |
21:20 | cait | libsysguy: which version are they using? |
21:20 | libsysguy | 3.8.5 |
21:20 | wizzyrea | jcamins_away: is that documented? |
21:20 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: probably not. |
21:21 | Also, DOM indexing was known not to work properly prior to 3.8.7. | |
21:21 | See the 3.8.7 release notes. | |
21:29 | eythian | http://imgur.com/AonBGUj |
21:31 | libsysguy | reddit ^^ ? |
21:33 | wizzyrea | I had that edition, with that pic |
21:35 | cait | lol |
21:50 | drojf | looks like my spontanous idea to make SRU output JSON is doomed to failure. |
21:51 | wizzyrea | haha they named the winter storm that is about to hit Kansas "Magnus" |
21:55 | oleonard | We're naming winter storms now? |
21:55 | When is it due to hit wizzyrea? | |
21:56 | eythian | hopefully it doesn't hit wizzyrea |
21:56 | wizzyrea | I think it's hitting now |
21:56 | or imminently | |
21:57 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
21:57 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 20.6°C (4:31 PM EST on January 29, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
21:57 | wizzyrea | yes, if it hits me, then climate change has gotten way out of control. |
21:57 | oleonard | ...and snow predicted here for Thursday |
21:58 | Climate change is already way out of control, but I take your point wizzyrea | |
21:58 | wizzyrea | yes, true. |
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22:03 | cait | hi kathryn |
22:03 | and good night #koha | |
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22:06 | eythian | wahanui: git guide is <reply>http://marklodato.github.com/v[…]ide/index-en.html |
22:06 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
22:07 | wizzyrea | good one |
22:08 | my grandma turns 103 today | |
22:08 | eythian | that's a good effort |
22:09 | wizzyrea | indeed! |
22:09 | cjh | oh wow |
22:10 | wizzyrea | well yesterday |
22:10 | wahanui | yesterday is almost over for me, and it's been pretty awful. |
22:10 | wizzyrea | yesterday is also all my troubles seemed so far away |
22:10 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
22:10 | wizzyrea | yesterday? |
22:10 | wahanui | yesterday is probably all your troubles seemed so far away |
22:25 | libsysguy | is the biblibra work for solr still alive? |
22:25 | biblibre** | |
22:27 | rangi | its all there in master/3.10.x you can switch it on, but it needs a lot more features added to be comparable with zebra |
22:27 | libsysguy | fair enough |
22:27 | rangi | im waiting for jareds search rewrite to finish, with the much saner/simpler parser |
22:27 | then ill look at | |
22:27 | solr again | |
22:28 | i guarantee ill still hate it for being a resource hungry pig, but ill look at it anyway :) | |
22:28 | libsysguy | heh well you can choke it if you'd like in the mem configs |
22:29 | bag | isn't it a hungry moose and not pig :P |
22:29 | libsysguy | jcamins is hiding his work on his git.cp repo |
22:29 | wizzyrea | moose? |
22:29 | wahanui | somebody said moose was liking dumping every tool in the world into every module |
22:29 | libsysguy | Moose mouse moo |
22:30 | rangi | libsysguy: still have to run a full java stack |
22:30 | libsysguy | true, I wonder if it runes better on Oracles version |
22:31 | bag | runes? |
22:31 | heh | |
22:31 | libsysguy | ugh |
22:31 | friggin typos everywhere today | |
22:31 | drojf | either you ask the oracle or the runes. don't mix those things |
22:32 | libsysguy | heh |
22:33 | rangi is jcamins query work in the OpenILS-QueryParser branch? | |
22:33 | rangi | most of it is on bugs |
22:34 | libsysguy | oh |
22:34 | enteresting | |
22:35 | rangi | some even awaiting qa :) |
22:37 | libsysguy | hehe |
22:37 | I was doing some QAA last night | |
22:37 | rangi | i know, thanks :) |
22:37 | libsysguy | heh np |
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22:57 | oleonard | See ya #koha |
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23:35 | drojf | rangi: i'm playing with the svc reports feature, but i wonder how to make it output json. any hints? i tried http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]en_down_by_branch and get [["MED","Mediothek","19389"]]. i would have assumed something more like {"homebranch":"MED","branchname":"Mediothek","items":19389}? |
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