IRC log for #koha, 2013-01-30

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00:07 Dyrcona rangi: Do you still use the PGP key with ID: 0x4BE030B3 ?
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01:15 mmm45 I just installed koha 3.10.0 from the tarball and I am not very sure how to manage that installation with git Is there a command that will tie it to git?
01:16 sorry, 3.10.01
01:16 wizzyrea did you do a dev install?
01:17 and I mean, when you ran ./configure, did you specify dev?
01:17 because it will ask you
01:17 mmm45 no, i did not
01:17 i've followed the upgrade instructions
01:17 in the install.debian
01:18 i upgraded from 3.09 to 3.10.1
01:18 wizzyrea did you specify dev when you installed your 3.09?
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01:20 mmm45 not sure. it was already installed when i took over the job
01:20 wizzyrea Ahh
01:20 well
01:21 is your running code in /usr/share or is it in, say /home/<user>
01:21 that is to say, do you have something like a kohaclone in your koha user's home directory/
01:21 ?
01:21 mmm45 it is home user
01:22 wizzyrea ok so you already have a dev install it sounds like
01:22 mmm45 and in the previous version it is kohaclone
01:22 koha-dev
01:22 wizzyrea so basicallky
01:22 mmm45 yes
01:22 wizzyrea you should have both
01:22 a kohaclone, and a koha-dev
01:22 where are you from?
01:22 mmm45 yes
01:22 i have both
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01:23 wizzyrea so if you go into your kohaclone
01:23 and you ls -lah
01:23 do you see a .git directory?
01:23 mmm45 there is a .git
01:23 yes
01:23 i see it
01:24 wizzyrea ok so
01:24 you are already running from git.
01:24 so if you wanted to update that
01:24 assuming you really want to
01:24 you can do a
01:24 mmm45 the upgrade installed into a separate folder from kohaclone
01:24 the new folder is koha-3.10.01
01:24 wizzyrea hm, you could be in a mess then.
01:25 mmm45 i took a snapshop so i can revert
01:25 if i need to
01:25 wizzyrea well probably what you want to do
01:25 http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git
01:25 mmm45 do you have a suggestion on how to do the upgrade differently?
01:25 wizzyrea is have a look here
01:26 http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]t_install_of_Koha
01:26 specifically this
01:26 and forget about using the tarball to update
01:26 since you already have a repository
01:26 that you are presumably using
01:27 eythian @wunder nzwn
01:27 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 26.0°C (2:00 PM NZDT on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
01:27 wizzyrea 26!
01:27 mmm45 yes, we are using the repository
01:27 wizzyrea repository = kohaclone, in this case
01:28 basically, go into your kohaclone,
01:28 git fetch && git rebase origin/master
01:28 probably first git checkout master
01:28 then fetch & rebase
01:28 mmm45 i'll try that
01:28 thank you so much
01:29 wizzyrea ah yea, you're welcome :)
01:29 good luck, pop back if you get stuck.
01:30 you may want to fall back to your snapshot, just because
01:30 mmm45 i sure will :-)
01:30 wizzyrea who knows what ways it got broken when you tried to upgrade
01:32 rangi Dyrcona: I do, whats up?
01:35 Dyrcona rangi: Just wanted to ask before sending an email.
01:35 rangi ah sweet :)
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02:44 * libsysguy whistles while he exports the LoC catalog
02:46 * wizzyrea expects the US Attorney General will be at your door soon.
02:49 libsysguy hehe
02:50 cjh heh
02:50 libsysguy actually I need to select all the records first
02:50 then export
02:50 * libsysguy needs a wildcard
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03:01 wizzyrea @later tell oleonard boy those bootstrap buttons sure are pretty <3
03:01 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
03:08 libsysguy wizzyrea I think it would be cool to include your less files in koha and then have them compiled for you
03:08 npm++
03:10 my god…what have we done http://instacode.linology.info/
03:11 wizzyrea ermmm
03:13 libsysguy yeah...
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03:28 mmm45 i have just upgraded to 3.10.1 but i am having an issue with the yui for staff/intranet showing up correctly
03:28 any suggestions?
03:28 wahanui any suggestions are welcome.
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03:41 mmm45 can anyone help me with this yui issue?
03:41 thank you so much
03:59 bag oh just got my domain registration notice scamm of the day!
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04:31 Oak kia ora #koha
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04:54 libsysguy @list wahanui
04:54 huginn libsysguy: Error: 'wahanui' is not a valid plugin.
04:54 libsysguy @wahanui list
04:54 huginn libsysguy: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
04:54 libsysguy @huginn info
04:54 huginn libsysguy: I've exhausted my database of quotes
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04:56 libsysguy heh awesome nick qu-bit
04:57 and the icing on the cake is schredngr
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05:32 mtj libsysguy, yep , its a goody :)
05:44 a random question… does anyone know if their is a tool to do the opposite of this -> ./misc/batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl
05:45 ie: build/sync values in the marcxml field, from say the items.* table…?
05:45 ive been using a simple script, to do that stuff
05:46 is there a better tool?
05:47 hmmm. would be a handy thing for dev-ing, testing and general koha admin
05:56 s/their/there/ ^^ :)
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07:02 cait mtj++ :)
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07:09 * magnuse waves
07:12 cait magnuse: I just had to rerun theh makefile thing 3 times because i always forgot to change to nb and normarc ;)
07:13 magnuse moahaha ;-)
07:13 cait hm
07:13 it failed
07:13 the make
07:13 Error:  Unknown MySQL server host '__DB_HOST__' (2) at /home/katrin/kohacloneN/blib/​PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Context.pm line 803.
07:14 #   Failed test 'use C4::XSLT;'
07:14 #   at t/00-load.t line 30.
07:14 #     Tried to use 'C4::XSLT'.
07:14 magnuse is that the normarc analytics thing?
07:15 cait I don't know
07:15 I am triyng to test jared's query parser
07:15 magnuse ah, ok
07:15 cait and I thought I would combine it with setting up another installation
07:15 for normarc
07:15 so I can test your things easier
07:15 magnuse wow, cool
07:15 cait but... I can't
07:17 I thnk I know what it is
07:18 bug 8924
07:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8924 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Some modules erroneously skipped by 00-load
07:20 magnuse "Unknown MySQL server host '__DB_HOST__'" sounds weird, though
07:20 cait it tries to load modules
07:20 but there is no database yet
07:20 so it fails, I think
07:20 magnuse i have seen some placeholders like that in my koha-conf.xml, but i havn't had the time to investigate
07:21 cait hm
07:21 I will try another run with marc21
07:22 never mind
07:22 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
07:22 cait it's me being not awake yet
07:24 magnuse: cross fingers :)
07:24 oh
07:24 fail again :(
07:25 magnuse :-(
07:25 cait http://paste.koha-community.org/374
07:25 magnuse same error?
07:25 cait bah
07:25 never mind
07:25 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
07:25 cait now that I pasted it it's easier to read - I will check the database
07:26 magnuse the database error looks weird among the module-related ones
07:27 cait yep
07:27 ah that looks better
07:27 probably permission on the database was wrong
07:27 sorry to have bothered you
07:32 magnuse np!
07:38 cait ok, the make install worked, all good
07:38 only the conf file still has not what i was looking for
07:39 jcamins_away will figure it out when he is back :)
07:39 bbl :)
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07:43 reiveune hello
07:43 alex_a bonjour
07:43 magnuse kia ora!
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07:59 mtj … anyone wanna signoff on this bootstrap patch 9420 ?
08:00 bug 9420
08:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9420 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Work on Bootstrap for Koha
08:01 mtj then i could QA it today :p
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08:02 gaetan_B hello
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08:17 kf good morning #koha :)
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08:42 drojf good morning #okoha
08:42 #koha even
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09:00 kf moring drojf and paul_p
09:02 @later tell rangi there is a problem with the dashboard - could you take a look?
09:02 huginn kf: The operation succeeded.
09:03 drojf kf: did you call me boring? ;9
09:03 ;)
09:03 kf drojf: huh?
09:06 drojf ah no you said 'moring' :P
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10:34 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha 200 developers!! this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org The next general meeting is 7 February 2013, at 2:00 UTC
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11:21 gerundio what's up with #koha today
11:21 just a lot of quits and joins
11:23 mtj yeah, oftc is just bouncy today, is all
11:25 magnuse` hey, bouncing is fun!
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12:04 * kf bounces
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12:17 tcohen good morning #Koha
12:18 kf hi tcohen
12:18 * kf hands tcohen the duct tape
12:19 hands drojf some too
12:20 tcohen hi kf
12:26 drojf kf: thanks, i'm good. just drove to work
12:32 @wunder berlin, germany
12:32 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 11.1°C (1:13 PM CET on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
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12:32 drojf spring fever! if only the rain would stop
12:32 kf no rain here :)
12:32 @wunder Konstanz
12:32 tcohen my colleages hate me today, i'm with a flu and at work...
12:32 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.3°C (1:30 PM CET on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
12:32 drojf nice!
12:32 tcohen i shouldnt have left home today :-(
12:33 kf oh? :(
12:34 oh the flu
12:34 yes, you shoudl have stayed home.
12:36 drojf this looks pretty cool. http://www.theatlantic.com/tec[…]ooks-like/272583/#.UQh-24A7idw.twitter unfortunately the actual website seems to be down
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12:39 kf hm seems to work for me :)
12:43 drojf oh. hm
12:44 weird
12:44 ah now it does for me too
12:46 gerundio 1st access returned 404 to me too
12:46 now it works
12:46 cool project, even though I'm not a Twitter user
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13:01 druthb @wunder 66046
13:01 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -2.3°C (6:59 AM CST on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon CST Thursday...
13:02 druthb @wunder bodo, norway
13:02 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (1:50 PM CET on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 28.80 in 975 hPa (Steady).
13:02 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:02 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 20.0°C (8:00 AM ART on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
13:02 druthb Thought so.  Dangit.
13:02 * druthb is jealous again
13:03 drojf woah, we got heavy rain from one minute to the other
13:04 magnuse druthb: you should move north of the arctic circle ;-)
13:04 druthb Either there, or Cordoba.
13:04 magnuse yeah...
13:05 drojf when is artikohacon?
13:05 kf sun here now :D
13:05 druthb @wunder konstanz
13:05 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 12.0°C (2:00 PM CET on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
13:05 druthb puh.
13:06 we had 20-21C here just *three days ago*.  Tonight, nearly 3cm of snow overnight, it's -2, and gonna get colder ALL DAY.
13:06 Tonight's low should be down around -12C
13:06 magnuse drojf: as soon as there are enough koha libraries in norway :-)
13:07 drojf magnuse: i claim greenland :)
13:07 magnuse fine by me!
13:07 drojf only have to find a library there ;)
13:08 maybe a raspberry koha in some east greenlandic bygd with 5 people :D
13:08 magnuse yay!
13:08 drojf and east greenlandic translation of course
13:08 * druthb wants to become the sysadmin for the library on one of the lil atolls in the pacific or something.  Maybe Kwajalein...
13:09 * magnuse wonders about the state of libraries and library automation in greenland
13:10 magnuse looks like lib-web-cats only knows about places in the us called greenland...
13:10 drojf magnuse: i have seen the university library. i don't know of any others
13:10 druthb magnuse, isn't Svalbard part of Norway?
13:10 magnuse druthb: um, sort of
13:11 druthb @wunder longyearbyen
13:11 huginn druthb: Error: No such location could be found.
13:11 druthb tsk
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13:13 magnuse druthb: "The Svalbard Treaty of 1920 established full Norwegian sovereignty over the archipelago. The islands are, unlike the Norwegian Antarctic Territory, a part of the Kingdom of Norway and not a dependency. The treaty came into effect in 1925, following the Svalbard Act. All forty signatory countries of the treaty have the right to conduct commercial activities on the archipelago without discrimination, although all activity is subject to
13:13 Norwegian legislation."
13:13 druthb 61,022 square kilometers, with less than 3000 people in it.
13:13 magnuse hehe
13:13 nice and spacey
13:13 but of course, those people are huddled together in a few places
13:14 druthb Most are in Longyearbyen, apparently.
13:14 magnuse yup
13:14 "The administrative center is Longyearbyen. Other settlements include the active Russian mining community of Barentsburg; the abandoned Russian mining settlement of Pyramiden (originally founded by the Swedish); the research community of Ny-Ålesund; and the Swedish mining outpost of Sveagruva."
13:14 quotes from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard :-)
13:15 druthb ...and cold.  Very, very cold.  January averages -16 to -12C.
13:15 magnuse yeah
13:15 and months and months of no sun
13:15 (and equivalent amounts of midnight sun in the summer, of course)
13:16 drojf -16 to -12 is not "very cold" :P
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13:16 druthb uhm.  yes.  it is.
13:17 Too cold for this girl, even if I do have many layers of body fat to keep me warm, like polar animals do.
13:18 magnuse http://www.yr.no/place/Norway/[…]n/statistics.html
13:18 hottest day of 2012 was +13C :-)
13:19 drojf cozy :D
13:19 oleonard @wunder 45701
13:19 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 19.4°C (7:51 AM EST on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect from 1 am to 10 am EST Thursday...
13:19 druthb That couple of weeks in July and August might be nice.  The rest of the year, I'm outa there.
13:19 oleonard We're still in the warm part druthb, but your cold weather should arrive later today
13:19 magnuse you'll probably find places inland in mainland norway that are colder than longyearbyen
13:19 like http://www.yr.no/place/Norway/[…]3/statistics.html
13:19 drojf what is the wind advised? how to blow?
13:20 oleonard One is advised that the wind blows.
13:20 drojf oh. that sounds less fun
13:20 druthb It's headed your way, oleonard.  We were at 70F three days ago, 29F now, and temps will fall all day, low tonight of 9F.  Batten down the hatches, this one's a killer.
13:20 oleonard *sigh*
13:21 I can hear the wind gusting out side right now in fact
13:21 drojf so "parental advisory: explicit lyrics" means that my parents curse? english is a strange language ;)
13:22 kf oleonard++ again :)
13:22 for your work on bootstrap this time
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13:29 H Hey Koha
13:29 kf hi H
13:29 someone with a shorter nick than me
13:29 :)
13:30 H are we vissible outside http://koha-pr.inbosnet.be/ annyone want to test
13:30 ;)
13:30 oleonard Not to me H
13:30 H dam
13:30 thx
13:31 kf not to me either
13:32 magnuse server not found
13:32 wahanui1 it has been said that server not found is a different error to what you described before
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13:34 drojf InBosnet.be Whois Record This domain name is not registered
13:34 typo?
13:34 H ^^
13:34 H ill ask our administrator
13:35 thx for testing
13:37 drojf H: is that the correct name of your institution's web domain?
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13:38 H well its a name used here it works inside but i got sure what the pollicy is
13:38 tcohen is there anyone with 3.10 deployments in production? is it ready?
13:41 magnuse i'm blocked by bug 9256, otherwise i would have upgraded my customers i think
13:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21
13:42 kf tcohen: we are starting testing - ask again in a few weeks ? :)
13:42 tcohen thanks kf, i'm about to update 3.8 now and wanted to know if 3.10 was worth
13:49 kf tcohen: we are updating from 3.6... so ...
13:49 hm
13:49 I wonder
13:50 does someoen know what happens if you return/issue books on the self check?
13:50 libsysguy joined #koha
13:50 kf it looks to me like a checkout slip email is generated, but it seems to be empty
13:50 the list of books is missing

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