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| 01:04 | rangi | wizzyrea: 7805 wont be needed for 3.6.x the new permissions only came in in 3.8.x |
| 01:05 | wizzyrea | right - that's what I gathered but since I was looking at them all, I figured I'd just close them with the note. Maybe that's not the right way to go about it - I do hate filling up people's inboxes. |
| 01:06 | (but for that one at least, I did know that the permissions weren't in 3.6) | |
| 01:08 | rangi | ah yeah for those ones i just leave them |
| 01:08 | you could note, not needed for 3.6.x if you wanted | |
| 01:08 | but i usually just leave it | |
| 01:08 | * rangi | is lazy |
| 01:09 | rangi | mtj++ |
| 01:09 | (its gonna generate the mail when you resolve it anyway so a little note doesnt hurt :)) | |
| 01:11 | mtj | rangi, yeah ultimately the 'sign-off' discussion seemed like a no-brainer to me |
| 01:12 | … a little extra effort, for a bunch more security | |
| 01:12 | rangi | *nod* |
| 01:21 | hmmm | |
| 01:22 | that really doesnt seem right, maybe those issues are to do with ubuntu | |
| 01:22 | but i had none of those issues on debian | |
| 01:22 | * rangi | is talking about the email to the list |
| 01:24 | jcamins | rangi: I had a problems just now with Debian. |
| 01:25 | Not so extreme. | |
| 01:26 | apt seems confused about my architecture. | |
| 01:27 | Of course, I don't actually know what architecture I'm on. | |
| 01:27 | rangi | heh |
| 01:28 | the theme issue is a known bug .. the rest .. i dont know about | |
| 01:30 | jcamins | How do I find out what architecture I'm on? |
| 01:31 | wizzyrea | uname -a |
| 01:31 | might tell you | |
| 01:31 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 01:31 | It says amd64. | |
| 01:39 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 01:39 | wizzyrea | wha? |
| 01:40 | Space_Librarian | you solved jcamins problem |
| 01:40 | wizzyrea | oh :) |
| 01:40 | jcamins | No, actually, for closing bugs. |
| 01:40 | Space_Librarian | and she does that too. |
| 01:41 | * Space_Librarian | gives wizzyrea chocolate |
| 01:41 | wizzyrea | oo |
| 01:41 | thanks | |
| 01:41 | rangi | she has that in her drawer already |
| 01:41 | and likes to tease us by snapping it loudly! | |
| 01:41 | :) | |
| 01:41 | Space_Librarian | in case of emergency? |
| 01:42 | wizzyrea | every day is an emergency. |
| 01:42 | rangi | yeah whenever i ask her to do something stupid |
| 01:42 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 01:42 | rangi | snap goes the chocolate |
| 01:42 | wizzyrea | no no |
| 01:42 | rangi | i know your tricks |
| 01:42 | :) | |
| 01:42 | wizzyrea | HA |
| 01:42 | * wizzyrea | has no tricks |
| 01:42 | wizzyrea | no really, it's true, I can't hide anything. |
| 01:43 | rangi | hehe |
| 01:43 | Space_Librarian | You need an invisibility cloak. |
| 01:43 | wizzyrea | true! |
| 01:47 | jcamins | Hey, does anyone have any really large datasets they want to share with me? |
| 01:48 | rangi | youve got the ones from openlibrary? |
| 01:48 | jcamins | Hmmm... |
| 01:48 | no. | |
| 01:48 | Good idea. | |
| 01:48 | rangi | http://archive.org/details/mar[…]ersity_of_toronto |
| 01:49 | 5.2gig worth of records there | |
| 01:49 | jcamins | Oh, of course. |
| 01:49 | THanks! | |
| 01:49 | *Thanks | |
| 01:50 | rangi | http://archive.org/details/tal[…]rary_contribution |
| 01:50 | 5.5 million from talis too | |
| 01:50 | http://archive.org/search.php?[…]ection&sort=-week | |
| 01:51 | go for gold :) | |
| 01:51 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 01:51 | I think probably I'll go with a slightly smaller dataset. | |
| 01:51 | rangi | :) |
| 01:52 | http://archive.org/details/unc_catalog_marc | |
| 01:52 | thats a good one | |
| 01:52 | jcamins | I like UMich's. |
| 01:52 | rangi | cos you can grab them at 2000 records at a time |
| 01:52 | ah yep thats good too | |
| 01:53 | mtj | i've had a pet-project for stuffing as many MARC records as i could find into a koha, and making it a z39.kc.org server |
| 01:54 | rangi | how many did you get in? |
| 01:54 | mtj | it would be a really useful thing! |
| 01:54 | rangi, i havent even started yet :/ | |
| 01:54 | rangi | ahh |
| 01:55 | mtj | ive been thinking about it for about 3-ish months, now |
| 01:55 | bag | I've had the same idea too |
| 01:55 | rangi | im happy to point z3950.koha-community.org at it when its done :) |
| 01:56 | mtj | yeah, but….. all those records out there…. they are not easy to pull via z39, yet :/ |
| 01:56 | rangi | assuming they are appropriately licensed records |
| 01:56 | and sru.koha-community.org | |
| 01:56 | we may as well offer them via sru/sw too | |
| 01:56 | bag | up I'd be down to help anyway possible |
| 01:57 | mtj | ^^ rangi, yep that too :) |
| 01:58 | jcamins | Ooh, Tuebingen! |
| 01:58 | I forgot about them. | |
| 01:58 | mtj | the big killer-feature *missing* from koha, is a way for new libraries to find MARC records for their books, i think... |
| 01:58 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #69 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 01:59 | mtj | so, the fix for that could be - we (kc.org) build a huge z39/sru server, and provides that service? |
| 01:59 | rangi | jcamins: your rewrite will help provide a better z3950 experience too, or is that pretty decent already? (talking about fetch from a z3950 server with koha) |
| 02:01 | jcamins | It will help, yes. |
| 02:01 | bag | I think kyle found a spot that z3950 causes some slowness - I think he may have commented on a bug but I forget |
| 02:02 | rangi | cool |
| 02:02 | we can always stick yaz-proxy out front | |
| 02:03 | mtj | atm , open-library has a zigabtye of bib records… but there is no easy way to get them from koha |
| 02:03 | rangi | thats what library of congress did |
| 02:04 | mtj | rangi, aah, i didnt know that |
| 02:05 | rangi | http://www.indexdata.com/yazproxy |
| 02:06 | mtj | the other way for Koha to get openlibrary records, is to teach Koha to import OL's JSON, YAML or RDF/XML bib data |
| 02:06 | http://openlibrary.org/developers/api | |
| 02:07 | anyhoo, a little off-topic... | |
| 02:07 | rangi | mtj: id love to go that route |
| 02:07 | jcamins | I'd love to see that. |
| 02:07 | rangi | talk to eythian at hashigo zake |
| 02:07 | he started do some work towards that i think | |
| 02:07 | you know what | |
| 02:08 | lets go for google summer of code next year | |
| 02:08 | eythian | No, I was mostly looking at cover uploading |
| 02:08 | jcamins | Definitely a good idea. |
| 02:08 | eythian | but I ran out of time to complete it |
| 02:08 | rangi | somethign like that, would be a perfect project |
| 02:08 | ahh right | |
| 02:08 | jcamins | I tried to convince wizzyrea to submit a proposal, but she wasn't sold. |
| 02:08 | rangi | biblios.net/org |
| 02:08 | came from summer of code | |
| 02:09 | one good thing that came out of the one year i was at liblime | |
| 02:09 | that and the move to git | |
| 02:10 | the rest im happy to forget :) | |
| 02:11 | jcamins | 190k authorities imported. |
| 02:13 | mtj | i'm sure everyone agrees - teaching koha to import OL's bib format, is better than us building our own z39 box |
| 02:15 | ^^ i think i talked myself out of starting the z39 thing, after i realised that | |
| 02:18 | yeah, so that could be Koha's new killer-feature… searching and importing bibs from open-library :) | |
| 02:19 | libsysguy joined #koha | |
| 02:19 | rangi | i fear im losing my battle against panicky misinformation |
| 02:19 | someone elses turn | |
| 02:24 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #69: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/69/ |
| 02:24 | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8936: Search RSS feeds does not show there items when subscribing in Firefox | |
| 02:24 | * oleonard: Bug 8804 [Revised] Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm | |
| 02:24 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9024: Adding sample patron attributes to German web installer | |
| 02:24 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9024: Add missing sample data to existing files | |
| 02:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8936 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, RESOLVED FIXED, Search RSS feeds does not show there items when subscribing in Firefox |
| 02:24 | jenkins_koha | * mirko: Bug 9024: Fix typo |
| 02:24 | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8983: Typo in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl | |
| 02:24 | * mathieu.saby: Bug 8954: Make languages list in advanced search translatable (revision 1) | |
| 02:24 | * oleonard: Bug 5521 - item edit form appears if no items found | |
| 02:24 | * oleonard: Bug 9073 - Download option from the cart should match the menu button in lists | |
| 02:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8804 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm |
| 02:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9024 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Add additional sample data to German installer | |
| 02:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8983 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Typo error in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl | |
| 02:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8954 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Languages list in advanced search always in english | |
| 02:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5521 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , item edit form appears if no items found | |
| 02:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9073 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Download option from the cart should match the menu button in lists | |
| 02:26 | eythian | I might have a go at making a patch for that issue, see how that helps. I do note that the status of "blocker" doesn't actually seem to function as intended though |
| 02:26 | (later that is, I have more urgent stuff to do right now) | |
| 02:27 | jcamins | I thought I already patched it. |
| 02:28 | Not sure where, though. | |
| 02:28 | eythian | if you did, it's not on bug 9052 |
| 02:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages |
| 02:29 | rangi | yep thats a new bug |
| 02:29 | jcamins | No, I thought I patched it a while ago. |
| 02:29 | rangi | well new report |
| 02:29 | jcamins | And I can't find it. |
| 02:31 | rangi | actually yeah |
| 02:31 | i think it is fixed | |
| 02:31 | eythian | in 3.10.x? |
| 02:32 | rangi | hmm nope still a bug |
| 02:33 | pastebot | "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "reset-fonts-grids" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/285 |
| 02:34 | rangi | first 2 lines are the files in git |
| 02:34 | the second 2 are where 3.10.0 installed them | |
| 02:34 | jcamins | Yeah, definitely a bug. |
| 02:34 | rangi | sorry the next 3 |
| 02:35 | this one being the problem /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/css/reset-fonts-grids.css | |
| 02:35 | actually that may have been left over from 3.8.x | |
| 02:35 | the real bug is there isnt one at | |
| 02:36 | /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/lib/yui/reset-fonts-grids.css | |
| 02:36 | same issue with skin.css | |
| 02:37 | * rangi | hope that helps |
| 02:39 | jcamins | Importing 700k records takes a long time. |
| 02:39 | rangi | yep |
| 02:43 | eythian | why is "address" not-null and not-default? That seems like a strange requirement. |
| 02:43 | borrowers.address that is | |
| 02:44 | * eythian | notes that there's some hidden logic somewhere that seems to give it '' if it would otherwise be not defined. |
| 02:44 | eythian | Silly band-aids. |
| 02:44 | jcamins | 183k |
| 02:45 | bag | I'm getting soo excited for the watching the premeir of the hobbit - live :) let's see a parade! |
| 02:45 | mtj you going? | |
| 02:45 | eythian | http://www.stuff.co.nz/enterta[…]ent/film/8009390/ <-- bag |
| 02:46 | mtj | i only just found out it was on, this morning :/ |
| 02:46 | bag | SOOO cool |
| 02:46 | eythian | I had a wander down Courtney Place earlier this afternoon. Packed with people. |
| 02:46 | mtj literally lives under a rock, you see. | |
| 02:47 | Space_Librarian | A couple of people at work are walking the carpet. |
| 02:47 | mtj | i was planning to head to HZ for a beer later this arvo… but not anymoar! |
| 02:47 | eythian | it's just outside the blocked off zone, it might not be so bad. malty will be hellish though. |
| 02:48 | jcamins | 1/3 of the way there. |
| 02:48 | bag | oh man you should go!!! for us that can't!!! |
| 02:48 | oh man oh man oh man oh man | |
| 02:48 | heh | |
| 02:49 | bag left #koha | |
| 02:49 | eythian | eh, this kind of thing happens all the time here, what's another red carpet premiere really ;) |
| 02:49 | oh, missed | |
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| 02:51 | mtj | still gonna go for a beer/wander, but will prolly go to LBQ instead |
| 02:51 | eythian | good day for it |
| 02:51 | Space_Librarian | you should try the Sprig and Fern, but it is a little more out of the way. |
| 02:52 | mtj | baggins, i did go to some previous LOTR prems, and… just gotz teh squashed! |
| 02:53 | bag | logs? |
| 02:53 | wahanui | hmmm... logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 02:53 | Space_Librarian | bag: I never told you about my discussions with Sir Ian about his Shakespeare performances whilst ona plane back to Wellington, did I? |
| 02:54 | bag | oh man there is only one hobbit premeir eythian |
| 02:54 | go! | |
| 02:54 | heh | |
| 02:54 | oh no you didn't Space_Librarian | |
| 02:54 | Space_Librarian | yep. |
| 02:54 | Also have had conversations with Stephen Fry and Billy Connelly. | |
| 02:54 | bag | that's pretty cool - I studied a lot of shakespeare in uni |
| 02:55 | Space_Librarian | I think he was more relieved that I was talking Shakespeare and not Gandalf. |
| 02:55 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 02:55 | mtj | Space, not too criticial, i hope? |
| 02:55 | Space_Librarian | So *so cool* though. |
| 02:56 | No, we discussed the finer points of the villians. (I loved his Richard III). | |
| 02:56 | mtj | … and you complimented him on his nice red shirt ;) |
| 02:57 | Space_Librarian | hahahaha. That was pre-red shirt, but I would do it now. :P |
| 02:57 | wizzyrea | translations + packages - I forget how one does this |
| 02:57 | how do you update them after an upgrade? | |
| 02:57 | Space_Librarian | mind you, people say red shirt = I think Star Trek. |
| 02:58 | * jcamins | thinks Star Trek when he hears "red shirt," too. |
| 02:58 | Space_Librarian | we have been indoctrinated. |
| 02:58 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I build the packages with the translations I want. |
| 02:59 | I think the way eythian does it is to install the translations manually. | |
| 02:59 | wizzyrea | well that is a step next |
| 02:59 | (good to know, but doesn't help this particular moment :)) | |
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| 02:59 | wizzyrea | eythian is not here (he's gone to hobbiton-courtenay-pl) |
| 03:02 | rangi | im watching for him on tv |
| 03:03 | wizzyrea | they just left a few minutes ago |
| 03:03 | rangi | i bet kathryn knows tons of ppl in it |
| 03:03 | kathryn | I know a pack of body doubles :) |
| 03:04 | * Space_Librarian | does too. And cameramen |
| 03:04 | kathryn | dressers, digital ninjas, gaffers, builder, sparkies! :)\ |
| 03:04 | hi Space_Librarian | |
| 03:04 | * wizzyrea | knows reed |
| 03:04 | kathryn | :) |
| 03:04 | rangi | heh |
| 03:04 | wizzyrea | that's about the extent |
| 03:04 | Space_Librarian | very exciting for them. :) |
| 03:05 | mtj | i, generally speaking, know lots little chubby hairy people... |
| 03:05 | kathryn | uh speaking of that, my hobbit name... :( |
| 03:05 | Esmerelda Chubb | |
| 03:05 | !!! | |
| 03:05 | rangi | lol |
| 03:06 | Space_Librarian | at least you're not a grubb! |
| 03:06 | rangi | we should totally do hobbit names for zoo doo |
| 03:06 | wizzyrea | Ruby Trample of Woody End |
| 03:06 | Space_Librarian | where is that name generator? |
| 03:06 | wizzyrea | http://www.chriswetherell.com/hobbit/index.php |
| 03:06 | rangi | Bulbo Moss of Lake-by-Downs |
| 03:06 | wizzyrea | Bulbo. |
| 03:07 | kathryn | so close to fame rangi |
| 03:07 | rangi | theyve seen my belly |
| 03:07 | * wizzyrea | thinks woody end sounds a bit naughty |
| 03:07 | wizzyrea | a bit bawdy eh |
| 03:07 | jcamins | Dimple Cotton of Overhill |
| 03:07 | rangi | heh |
| 03:07 | wizzyrea | oh I like that |
| 03:07 | kathryn | *wizzyrea is chronic |
| 03:07 | Space_Librarian | Iris Hamwich of Buckleberry Fern |
| 03:07 | kathryn | that's a goody jcamins |
| 03:07 | wizzyrea | hamwich? |
| 03:07 | mtj | Berilac Boffin of Whitfurrows |
| 03:07 | wizzyrea | DELISH |
| 03:08 | O.o boffin. | |
| 03:08 | kathryn | Space_Librarian, very proper |
| 03:08 | jcamins | wizzyrea: they're fairly closely related to the Bagginses. |
| 03:08 | * mtj | wants kathryn's one :/ |
| 03:08 | * jcamins | just reread Fellowship of the Ring. |
| 03:08 | jcamins | And Two Towers. |
| 03:08 | wizzyrea | of course :) |
| 03:09 | * Space_Librarian | loves LotR and Silmarillion more than the Hobbit. |
| 03:09 | jcamins | I loaned them to a friend two years ago and only just got them back two weeks ago. |
| 03:09 | (but I got them back!) | |
| 03:09 | Space_Librarian | hooray! |
| 03:09 | wizzyrea | because they kept getting overdue notices from your koha? |
| 03:09 | rangi | heh |
| 03:10 | kathryn | mtj: I didn't get a home like everyone else, just plain ol Esmerelda Chubb |
| 03:10 | jcamins | wizzyrea: lol |
| 03:10 | That would've been a good idea, but no. | |
| 03:11 | Is there a standard program I can use that will wait until another process has finished then execute a particular program? | |
| 03:11 | wizzyrea | a pipe? or && |
| 03:12 | rangi | Esmerelda Chubb lives down the pub |
| 03:12 | jcamins | wizzyrea: assume that I'm half-way through a very long process. |
| 03:12 | wizzyrea | oh. |
| 03:13 | rangi | hmm |
| 03:13 | wizzyrea | you mean like importing 5G of records |
| 03:13 | jcamins | I'd like to go to sleep, but it's going to take another 40 minutes for the import to finish, and then I'd like to import the last file and reindex. |
| 03:13 | wizzyrea | :P |
| 03:13 | rangi | not really |
| 03:13 | jcamins | In this case only 500MB. |
| 03:13 | You'd think there would be- it's easy enough to script. | |
| 03:15 | rangi | you could just at it |
| 03:15 | jcamins | Hm. True. |
| 03:33 | eythian | I usually sleep 600 && something |
| 03:37 | wizzyrea | ^^ I like this idea, if you know about how long it's going to take |
| 03:38 | eythian | https://plus.google.com/103212[…]posts/HkfGnRw3nHC <-- bag |
| 03:47 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominio[…]emiere-Livestream <-- bag, now that'll probably be what you want | |
| 03:47 | bag | I've got channel 3 streaming |
| 03:49 | rangi | sweet |
| 03:49 | you can see our crappy adverts at the moment | |
| 03:49 | bag | oh yeah that's much better go stuff |
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| 04:09 | druthb | o/ |
| 04:10 | * druthb | shivers. |
| 04:13 | rangi | kahu runs and yells is it wizard gandalf styles yet |
| 04:14 | somehow the hobbit has crossed over into gangnam style | |
| 04:15 | eythian | http://youtu.be/uE-1RPDqJAY |
| 04:16 | rangi | that'll be why |
| 04:16 | his grandad must have shown him that | |
| 04:37 | https://twitter.com/bex_anwyll[…]491759616/photo/1 | |
| 04:37 | cant beat wellington on a good day | |
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| 04:57 | * Oak | waves |
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| 05:09 | druthb | Hi, Oak. :) |
| 05:12 | eythian | today's magnum opus: |
| 05:12 | ldapsearch -x -LLL -H ldaps://x.x.x.x -D 'CN=testham,OU=CLIENT,OU=User Accounts,DC=ABC123,DC=CLIENT,DC=LOCAL' -w 'password' -b 'OU=CLIENT,OU=User Accounts,DC=ABC123,DC=CLIENT,DC=LOCAL' "(mail=*)" cn mail | grep '^cn\|^mail' | cut -f 2 -d ' ' | sed -e "s/'/''/g" | tr \\n \\0 | xargs -0 -n 2 echo | awk '{print "UPDATE borrowers SET userid='"'"'"$1"'"'"' WHERE email='"'"'"$2"'"'"';"}' | |
| 05:34 | Oak | hello druthb_away :) |
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| 06:13 | francharb | hello #koha |
| 06:29 | rangi | hi francharb |
| 06:29 | francharb | 0/ rangi |
| 06:40 | cait | hi francharb :) evening rangi :) |
| 06:40 | francharb | hi cait :) |
| 06:53 | eythian | rangi: I'd already written and was in the process of testing that patch :) |
| 06:53 | rangi | heh |
| 06:53 | whoops :) | |
| 06:54 | im unsure if it is need for the intranet too | |
| 06:54 | eythian | not sure |
| 06:54 | rangi | so i just did the opac, as that is where it was obviously needed |
| 06:55 | eythian | yeah |
| 06:56 | hmm, beware that the whitespace fixing feature of git seems to do bad things to makefiles | |
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| 06:58 | rangi | oh yeah good point |
| 07:01 | cait | hey eythian |
| 07:01 | eythian | hi |
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| 07:14 | eythian | rangi: fails: install: target `/tmp/buildd/koha-3.10.00.1/debian/tmp/usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/lib/yui' is not a directory |
| 07:16 | rangi | hmmm it must need to come later then |
| 07:17 | eythian | later in the rules, there's a rewrite of the URLs for those two files in the CSS. I wonder if that's what needs to change instead. |
| 07:18 | rangi | ahh |
| 07:18 | rm -r \ | |
| 07:18 | $(TMP)/usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/lib/yui | |
| 07:18 | eythian | Hmm |
| 07:18 | rangi | up on 41 |
| 07:19 | eythian | it's immediately followed by an ln |
| 07:19 | rangi | yeah |
| 07:19 | eythian | that links in the system yui |
| 07:19 | rangi | right |
| 07:19 | eythian | but that's laid out differently |
| 07:20 | I might leave it there for now and look more tomorrow. | |
| 07:20 | rangi | yeah |
| 07:24 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:26 | eythian | oh, magnuse is here just as I'm leaving. He can fix the bug for us then ;) |
| 07:26 | rangi | heh |
| 07:27 | * magnuse | hides |
| 07:27 | magnuse | :-) |
| 07:27 | eythian | too late now! tag, you're it! |
| 07:27 | cait | rangi++ for signing off patches |
| 07:27 | magnuse | bug 9052, i presume? |
| 07:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages |
| 07:27 | eythian | yeah |
| 07:28 | magnuse | doesn't rangi's patch do the trick? |
| 07:28 | eythian | nope |
| 07:28 | (see recent scrollback) | |
| 07:28 | magnuse | ah yes |
| 07:28 | * eythian | makes like a tree and gets out of here. |
| 07:29 | cait | since when can trees move? |
| 07:29 | magnuse | of too middle earth? |
| 07:29 | ents! | |
| 07:29 | cait | oh right |
| 07:29 | never mind | |
| 07:29 | magnuse | eythian is probably going to an ent-moot |
| 07:29 | * eythian | adds the Back to the Future series as compulsory watching for both of you |
| 07:30 | * magnuse | notes that down |
| 07:31 | cait | :) |
| 07:32 | * magnuse | also notes that eythian is in the miffle of middle earth already |
| 07:35 | magnuse | miffle? |
| 07:36 | * cait | was not about to look that up... um |
| 07:44 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:46 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:46 | wahanui | what's up, reiveune |
| 07:48 | cait | hi reiveune |
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| 08:02 | lds | hello |
| 08:04 | magnuse | bonjour! |
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| 08:10 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
| 08:13 | rangi | hi lds and paul_p |
| 08:14 | lds | hi rangi |
| 08:46 | drojf | "Milo Gamgee-Took of Bywater" <- looks like i'm a koha hobbit. bywater: please start to pay me :D |
| 08:47 | and good morning #koha | |
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| 08:49 | rangi | heh |
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| 09:17 | Herwig | Morning |
| 09:20 | Question about koha is it possible to make different passwords with different rights for the staff client ? | |
| 09:21 | magnuse | Herwig: you can create different *users* with different permissions, yes |
| 09:22 | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]npermissions.html | |
| 09:22 | Herwig | dont find that :) anny tips |
| 09:22 | magnuse | have a look at that link pasted |
| 09:22 | Herwig | ah thx i go read it |
| 09:22 | :) | |
| 09:23 | magnuse | :-) |
| 09:26 | Herwig | works ... i was close before i asked ... but now i got it thx |
| 09:27 | The last mile is always the hardest | |
| 09:27 | magnuse | hehe, true! |
| 09:30 | Herwig | installed 3.10 at home yesterday for testing nice job works fine :) gratz to all who worked at it |
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| 11:14 | * drojf | yawns |
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| 11:21 | vfernandes | hi guys |
| 11:23 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 11:23 | wahanui | privet, gaetan_B |
| 11:23 | drojf | hi vfernandes |
| 11:23 | and hi gaetan_B | |
| 11:24 | gaetan_B | so i got analytics working, but there's still a question : is there a way to get the list of analytics from the host record in the opac like we have it in the admin ? |
| 11:24 | drojf | i fail to find any mention of koha on the website of the company requesting to be listed as koha support provider |
| 11:27 | vfernandes | in one of my clients I've implement a record cataloguing validation workflow with some code modifications... the cataloguer uses the MARC frameworks to catalogue the record (suppress = 1 and they can't change it), than the catalogue "bosses" uses a special framework (only some patrons have access to i) to validate the record catalogue and set the suppress = 0 |
| 11:28 | this could be a nice feature to add to Koha? | |
| 11:29 | gaetan_B | vfernandes: i have met some people asking for this feature actually :) |
| 11:29 | so it does sound like a nice idea | |
| 11:30 | vfernandes | in my client the implementation is directly in the code, but I can turn it more useful with system preferences |
| 11:30 | * gaetan_B | is off to lunch |
| 11:33 | magnuse | vfernandes: yeah, system preferences to make it optional is usually a good idea :-) |
| 11:33 | dpavlin | ~ |
| 11:38 | magnuse | dpavlin: you're going home? ;-) |
| 11:40 | drojf | lol |
| 11:41 | dpavlin | magnuse: no, not yet unfortunatly, I just a bit sleepy so my finger slipped from esc to ~ :-) |
| 11:42 | magnuse | :-) |
| 11:43 | vfernandes | the system preferences needs to have 3 options... one to turn on/turn off the cataloguing validation, one to especify the code of MARC framework and the last to specify the usernames with access to the validation framework (empty for all) |
| 11:45 | with the validation on all frameworks (expect validation framework) needs to have the suppress hidden because it will be filled automatically with value 0 | |
| 11:45 | *with 1 | |
| 11:46 | what you think about this magnuse? | |
| 11:49 | magnuse | instead of specifying a user in a syspref, maybe create a permission for it? |
| 11:50 | vfernandes | can be... the problem is that with validation off there is "non" working permission |
| 11:58 | if a record has no suppress (empty 942$n in UNIMARC) what happens? it is visible in OPAC? | |
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| 12:33 | drojf | hi kf. late today ;) |
| 12:33 | kf | ah meetings |
| 12:35 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 12:36 | kf | hi tcohen |
| 12:36 | drojf | kf: ok. i'm going to accept that excuse. for today :P |
| 12:37 | hi tcohen | |
| 12:37 | tcohen | hi drojf |
| 12:40 | paul_p_ | hi drojf, kf, tcohen & all others |
| 12:41 | kf | hi paul_p_ |
| 12:41 | drojf | bonjour paul_p_ |
| 12:41 | * paul_p_ | plan to have some QA fun this afternoon |
| 12:41 | kf | I had a bit of fun this morning :) |
| 12:43 | drojf | lok at the QA people, they get all the fun |
| 12:43 | look | |
| 12:43 | tcohen | heh |
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| 12:55 | muaz | some help me |
| 12:55 | in koha logo and interface | |
| 12:55 | iam so sad | |
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| 12:56 | muaz | holoooooooo |
| 12:56 | i want to change the blue coloe in OPAC | |
| 12:57 | jwagner | muaz, do you mean the masthead bar? Where the search box and links to Advanced Search etc. are? |
| 12:57 | muaz | yes |
| 12:57 | that it is | |
| 12:58 | jwagner | Put something like this in your OpacUserCSS syspref: |
| 12:58 | #opac-main-search { background : #0800A5; } | |
| 12:58 | Use the hex code for the color you want | |
| 12:59 | muaz | any boody here |
| 12:59 | iam new in koha | |
| 12:59 | step by step please | |
| 12:59 | kf | muaz: jwagner answered your question |
| 13:00 | muaz | who and where can i add hex cod |
| 13:00 | kf | muaz: I think maybe start with the manual - there is not much more than she told you, adminsitration > systempreferences > OpacUserCSS is where you want to start looking and for the logo opacsmallimage |
| 13:00 | muaz | that it my problem |
| 13:01 | i find some result about you talk but i didnot find my answer | |
| 13:02 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9142 - Remove the use of subtests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a412e42c96fb40345> |
| 13:03 | jwagner | manual? |
| 13:03 | wahanui | manual is probably at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 13:03 | muaz | iam use koha on ubuntu |
| 13:04 | tcohen | no matter where did u install Koha muaz, you need to know CSS and read the manual to apply those CSS styles |
| 13:07 | muaz | yes iam trying several day to install koha |
| 13:07 | now it work probably | |
| 13:07 | but i want to change the blue coloe in OPAC | |
| 13:07 | tcohen | exactly |
| 13:10 | muaz | SOME ONE SEND ME THE HTML CODE FOR THAT |
| 13:10 | to change the blue coloe in OPAC | |
| 13:10 | jwagner | Any CSS entered in the OpacUserCSS syspref overrides the default stylesheet settings. Therefore enter the code I sent you in that syspref, with the hex code for the color you want. |
| 13:11 | (Shouting doesn't help) | |
| 13:11 | muaz | OK |
| 13:12 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #956 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 13:13 | paul_p | muaz = which version ? could you show us what your opac look like ? |
| 13:13 | muaz | KOHA WORK GOOOD |
| 13:15 | drojf | we should have a google group for video tutorials |
| 13:18 | muaz | HI |
| 13:18 | IAM WAITE | |
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| 13:21 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:22 | drojf | hi oleonard |
| 13:22 | jcamins | muaz: your caps lock is turned on. |
| 13:23 | muaz | sorry |
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| 13:42 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7143' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3611216d1c4cbd31d> / Bug 7143: Small fix for About page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]93adc41966e28a3f3> / Bug 7143 About changes for 3.12 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]74730d8271741d02b |
| 13:48 | kf | http://people.oregonstate.edu/[…]log/archives/1123 |
| 13:49 | oleonard | Has anyone heard from him on the mailing list or IRC? |
| 13:51 | kf | hm haven't seen anything |
| 13:52 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_6680' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5f68dededa7bdb7cd> / Follow up to Bug 6680: tiny up download lists formats <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4617bd88711717df6> / Bug 6680 - simple tidy-up of cart download format descriptions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]web/?p=koha.git;a |
| 13:53 | oleonard | I don't get it. Or maybe he doesn't get how open source works (contributing perhaps to the fact that MarcEdit isn't FOSS) |
| 13:54 | paul_p | oleonard = same for me. Nice that he started by adding Koha, too bad that he made this on his island ;-) |
| 13:54 | jcamins_away = just passed QA bug 7167 (after testing the squashed I just uploaded)... hoping you'll push it... | |
| 13:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , updatedatabase improvements |
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| 13:56 | kf | paul_p: I woud like to see a second qa opinon on this - you were heavily involved in development here |
| 13:57 | drojf | kf++ # for being annoying :) |
| 13:58 | paul_p | kf marcel made a lot of QA already. I really think we've enough. But jared final cut. |
| 13:59 | kf | ok |
| 13:59 | drojf | respect the QAMs authority |
| 13:59 | :P | |
| 14:01 | oleonard | nengard: http://fredericiana.com/2012/1[…]ing-with-dropbox/ |
| 14:02 | nengard | neat oleonard |
| 14:03 | oleonard | I know Jing works well, but it's nice that that is open source. |
| 14:04 | nengard | yup, except that you need dropbox |
| 14:04 | oleonard | Well, except for the Dropbox part :P |
| 14:04 | nengard | hehe |
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| 14:21 | tomascohen: Bug 9142 - Remove the use of subtests | |
| 14:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9142 blocker, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Failing test case in 3.10.0 release. |
| 14:21 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #957 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 15:02 | vfernandes | guys what happens when OPACSuppresion is on and we add a record without suppress subfield? |
| 15:04 | nengard | if you don't have at least one record with 942$n set to 1 then you will get no results at all for any search |
| 15:04 | but if you have 1 in the system and you add another without it you're fine | |
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| 15:13 | vfernandes | I know that... imagine that I have one record with 942$n set, then I add another without 942$n |
| 15:13 | what happens to the new record? appears or not in OPAC? | |
| 15:21 | nengard | It appears |
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| 15:23 | vfernandes | ok thanks nengard :) |
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| 15:30 | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9132: Paging through OPAC authority search results does not work | |
| 15:30 | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9132: Paging through OPAC authority search results does not work (followup 1) input with and_ora instread of and_or | |
| 15:30 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 2832: [SIGNED-OFF] Followup: Add a default value | |
| 15:30 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 7143 About changes for 3.12 | |
| 15:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9132 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Paging through OPAC authority search results does not work |
| 15:30 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7143: Small fix for About page |
| 15:30 | * koha: Bug 9098 Replace tabulations by spaces in opac-user.pl | |
| 15:30 | * robin: Bug 6680 - simple tidy-up of cart download format descriptions | |
| 15:30 | * nengard: Follow up to Bug 6680: tiny up download lists formats | |
| 15:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2832 normal, P3, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Make alphabet localizable |
| 15:30 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page | |
| 15:30 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9098 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace tabulations by spaces in opac-user.pl | |
| 15:30 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6680 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Cart download choices not understandable to patrons | |
| 15:31 | jcamins | Success! \o/ |
| 16:01 | vfernandes | patch submitted to validation workflow - BUG 9163 |
| 16:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9163 new feature, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Cataloguing validation workflow |
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| 16:03 | jcamins | vfernandes: perhaps it would be better to make a new permission for users instead of having a list of users in a syspref? |
| 16:03 | reiveune1 | bye |
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| 16:03 | jcamins | permissions? |
| 16:04 | Alas, no wiki page on permissions. | |
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| 16:05 | vfernandes | magnuse said the same thing but if the validation is off the permission makes no sense |
| 16:05 | drojf | hi again #koha |
| 16:05 | vfernandes | but I can create a permission for that |
| 16:06 | which is the best way to do that? | |
| 16:06 | jcamins | vfernandes: I think it's still superior. |
| 16:06 | Unfortunately there's no wiki page explaining how to create permissions that I can see. | |
| 16:06 | vfernandes | that's bad :/ |
| 16:07 | jcamins | It's not very ahrd. |
| 16:07 | *hard | |
| 16:07 | drojf | oleonard: you actually found a koha link on the website! either i missed it or it was not there when i looked. it looks kind of arbitrarily placed ;) |
| 16:07 | oleonard | Yes, I think hastily. |
| 16:08 | vfernandes | jcamins perl is not a problem for me... founding things it's harder :D |
| 16:08 | jcamins | vfernandes: I don't have an example, but you can certainly find one on bugzilla. |
| 16:08 | Bug 7673, maybe. | |
| 16:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7673 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Failed QA , New patron permissions |
| 16:08 | drojf | oleonard: services: seo services ;) |
| 16:11 | vfernandes | there is the need to change all language/mandatory/userpermission.pl? |
| 16:11 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 16:11 | You must add the permission to every single language. | |
| 16:11 | You don't have to translate it. | |
| 16:12 | You can just put the English string in. | |
| 16:12 | vfernandes | ok... |
| 16:12 | i'll try to change the code to use user permissions | |
| 16:13 | how in perl I check if a user have permissions to something? I don't want to search it on the code :P | |
| 16:14 | jcamins | It's in every single script. |
| 16:14 | I am confident you can find it. | |
| 16:14 | I actually didn't memorize every single line in the entire Koha codebase. I just judiciously copy and paste what I need. | |
| 16:15 | It should be near the top of each script... something to do with permissions. | |
| 16:16 | vfernandes | roger that :) |
| 16:17 | drojf | (17:12:44) jcamins: I actually didn't memorize every single line in the entire Koha codebase. <--- WHAT KIND OF RELEASE MANAGER ARE YOU??!!?!11 |
| 16:17 | jcamins | drojf: a sane one. |
| 16:17 | :P | |
| 16:17 | drojf | heh |
| 16:17 | vfernandes | $loggedinuser in get template gives userid logged? |
| 16:17 | drojf | jcamins: i am shocked! :P |
| 16:18 | jcamins | That's what I was thinking of. Yes. |
| 16:20 | oleonard | Okay, the list of bugs marked "pushed to master" is now down to below 500. *whew* |
| 16:21 | vfernandes | gives the borrowernumber |
| 16:21 | jcamins | oleonard++ |
| 16:22 | * chris_n | gives oleonard a pat on the back and more strong coffee |
| 16:24 | oleonard | I encourage everyone to generate a list of bugs which you have reported which are marked as pushed. Those should be the easiest ones for you to confirm as fixed. |
| 16:28 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #3 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: FIXED) |
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| 16:28 | magnuse | oleonard++ |
| 16:28 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #3: SUCCESS in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Docs_3.8.x/3/ |
| 16:28 | nengard: update message crons | |
| 16:28 | Project Koha_Docs build #235: STILL FAILING in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/235/ | |
| 16:28 | nengard: update message crons | |
| 16:29 | magnuse | when a bug is "pushed to master", how do we know it's not a candidate for pushing to stable? should we assume that it will be pushed to stable quickly after it has been pushed to master or not at all? |
| 16:30 | jcamins | magnuse: if it hasn't been pushed to stable within a month, it's not going. |
| 16:30 | magnuse | jcamins: cool |
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| 16:39 | jcamins | oleonard: did you see I asked you to rebase some patchset? |
| 16:39 | Bug 7067 maybe. | |
| 16:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Patch doesn't apply , allow patron self registration via the opac |
| 16:39 | oleonard | yes |
| 16:39 | jcamins | Okay, good. |
| 16:39 | Take your time. | |
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| 16:43 | * nengard: fix formatting of AutoSelfCheckAllowed pref | |
| 16:43 | * nengard: update FRBRizeEditions preferences | |
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| 16:43 | * nengard: fix formatting of AutoSelfCheckAllowed pref | |
| 16:43 | * nengard: update FRBRizeEditions preferences | |
| 16:48 | jcamins | Ooh, I'd forgotten about that logging module. |
| 16:48 | I'm very excited for it! | |
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| 16:52 | drojf | could somebody mute/unsub the out of office person on the patch list please? december 10 is still some time away |
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| 16:58 | * nengard: add 'get there' statements | |
| 16:58 | * nengard: update patron permissions image | |
| 16:58 | * nengard: add more 'get there' statements | |
| 16:58 | * nengard: add description to holds | |
| 16:59 | * jcamins | sends a _very_ tetchy e-mail. |
| 16:59 | jcamins | He is providing an incentive to *not* make it easy to search non-Roman character sets. |
| 17:03 | drojf: if only we had a Google Group, eh? | |
| 17:03 | drojf | :P |
| 17:04 | behold the wrath of "all the people in the arabic world" regarding not making it easy to search non-roman characters | |
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| 17:05 | drojf | i actually meant "beware", you will behold it later ;) |
| 17:05 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 17:06 | He has an unusual amount of self-entitlement. | |
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| 17:09 | drojf | oh it's the indian world this time |
| 17:10 | jcamins | drojf: no, that was koyauni. |
| 17:10 | drojf | ha yes i just saw it. always trust the gut feeling :D |
| 17:12 | i don't find appropriate words to express my feelings about that mail you got. | |
| 17:12 | jcamins | "wtf?" and "bwahahahaha" come to mind, depending on your view of humanity. |
| 17:12 | drojf | :) |
| 17:13 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #238 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 4 days ago) |
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| 17:13 | * nengard: update hold list image | |
| 17:13 | * nengard: updated holds section with links | |
| 17:13 | * nengard: update hold image | |
| 17:13 | * nengard: add more 'get there' statements | |
| 17:14 | oleonard | Man, asking a question in #jquery is like shouting into a tornado. |
| 17:14 | jcamins | oleonard: very active? |
| 17:15 | oleonard | Well, not especially I guess... Maybe it's more like asking a question of a small pile of rocks. |
| 17:15 | jcamins | lol |
| 17:15 | drojf | maybe that is where our friend with the opac colour came from. he still had the shouting |
| 17:17 | jcamins | So here is a question. |
| 17:17 | You know how some people are underliners, and they underline things in books they read? | |
| 17:17 | Does anyone ever get past page 50? | |
| 17:17 | I have cataloged dozens if not hundreds of books with underlining, and I don't think I've ever seen it past page 50 or so. | |
| 17:20 | drojf | interesting. you should get some funding and write a paper on it ;) |
| 17:20 | jcamins | lol |
| 17:20 | drojf | i think i have seen underlining everywhere. but that may be just because of different articles in a volume |
| 17:21 | so students don't read the whole book and can start with fresh underlining power at page 278 | |
| 17:21 | jcamins | lol |
| 17:21 | Yeah, I have seen that. | |
| 17:22 | nengard | the view from where i sit http://www.flickr.com/photos/n[…]osted/2012/11/28/ |
| 17:24 | jcamins | nengard: does the gray one have a head? |
| 17:24 | nengard | hehe - those are all Beau |
| 17:24 | the ones with his head showing were this morning | |
| 17:24 | and in the one on his back his head is under the blanket | |
| 17:24 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 17:24 | nengard | trying so hard not to laugh at him |
| 17:25 | don't want to wake him | |
| 17:28 | jcamins | vfernandes++ |
| 17:29 | vfernandes | jcamins second patch for the bug sent :) |
| 17:31 | tomorrow i'll focus my energy solving bug 8347 | |
| 17:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8347 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' |
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| 17:32 | jcamins | vfernandes: that will make a lot of people very happy, I think. :) |
| 17:34 | vfernandes | that should be a system preference and should be changed from enhancement to major bug (maybe)... I've already done the same thing to the authorities (bug 9144)... |
| 17:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9144 trivial, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , bulkmarcimport.pl - Problem identifying errors |
| 17:34 | vfernandes | bug 9145 :) |
| 17:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9145 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Authorities: standard language for UNIMARC |
| 17:36 | jcamins | Reindexing 720k records is painfully slow. |
| 17:37 | vfernandes | 720k? the maximum that I've reindexed was 250k |
| 17:37 | and it was slow slow slow | |
| 17:41 | jcamins | Yeah... unfortunately I didn't use enough '-v's and I'm not even getting any progress information. |
| 17:44 | When it finishes I am copying the Zebra indexes and trying to avoid ever reindexing again. | |
| 17:47 | Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
| 17:47 | It finished. | |
| 17:47 | It died. | |
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| 17:50 | jcamins | It takes 9 seconds per thousand records. |
| 17:50 | 9 * 721 | |
| 17:50 | wahanui: 9 * 721 | |
| 17:50 | wahanui | 6489 |
| 17:50 | jcamins | That should be just under two hours. |
| 17:51 | vfernandes | 2 hours... autch :P |
| 17:52 | jcamins | Except it was running for almost four and hadn't finished. |
| 17:52 | So clearly it doesn't scale linearly. | |
| 17:52 | * jcamins | throws Zebra a bunch more RAM, starts again. |
| 17:53 | * chris_n | suggests jcamins try throwing straw or hay instead |
| 17:53 | tcohen | you should use nosanitize BTW |
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| 17:53 | chris_n | hi cait |
| 17:53 | tcohen | if you have a bunch of RAM maybe a tmpfs and then copy to destination |
| 17:54 | jcamins | tcohen: nosanitize is for exporting, though, isn't it? |
| 17:54 | cait | hi chris_n |
| 17:55 | tcohen | jcamins, for rebuild_zebra, for the export step (which takes way too much time without that switch) |
| 17:55 | jcamins | tcohen: yeah, I already had everything exported. |
| 17:55 | Though that's a good point... could be that's what all the time was taken up with. | |
| 17:56 | In fact, it almost surely was. | |
| 17:56 | oleonard | In debugging localization of the datepicker I notice people aren't translating the two-letter day abbreviations. Are these not common in other languages or are the strings too ambiguous in the translation process? |
| 17:56 | tcohen | that, and IO are the bottlenecks |
| 17:57 | oleonard | cait? magnuse? |
| 17:57 | drojf | oleonard: they are common in german |
| 17:57 | not sure why they are not translated | |
| 17:58 | oleonard | I could see how having, for instance, "Fr" come up in the translation process could be confusing. |
| 17:58 | drojf | probably that, yes |
| 18:00 | cait | oleonard? |
| 18:00 | wahanui | oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 18:00 | oleonard | cait, see my datepicker localization question above |
| 18:00 | cait | oleonard: Montag is Monday |
| 18:00 | Friday is Freitag | |
| 18:00 | Saturday is Samstag ... lots of them are the same | |
| 18:00 | for German | |
| 18:01 | I think I caught the others in translation, but not everyone checks where the string comes from | |
| 18:01 | so they are probably confusing for some translators | |
| 18:02 | ah, now I finished reading back, was that the answer you were looking for? :) | |
| 18:02 | * cait | waves to drojf |
| 18:02 | oleonard | I think so |
| 18:05 | drojf | hola cait |
| 18:07 | if i was more fond of live cds i could make one of koha as a business card for the workshop ;) | |
| 18:10 | jcamins | 96k in. |
| 18:10 | drojf | "please keep the hard work" vs. "thank you for your hard work"… |
| 18:11 | jcamins | lol |
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| 18:13 | jcamins | drojf: here's one with underlining on page 78. |
| 18:13 | I was very impressed. | |
| 18:13 | Then I realized that it's page 2 of the conclusion. | |
| 18:14 | drojf | :D |
| 18:14 | who has time to read the whole book? ;) | |
| 18:33 | rangi | Morning |
| 18:33 | wahanui | Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
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| 18:46 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 18:46 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:46 | rangi | Nice |
| 18:49 | http://i.stuff.co.nz/timaru-he[…]-going-electronic | |
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| 18:52 | rangi | Hey trea |
| 18:52 | trea | hi rangi |
| 18:52 | rangi | 3 sunny days in a row |
| 18:52 | It's a new record | |
| 18:52 | trea | heh |
| 18:54 | magnuse | oleonard: i think i did piack out the abbreviations, and translate them |
| 18:55 | Fr is the same in nb-NO and en | |
| 19:01 | cait | no sun here... for like 2 weeks... |
| 19:01 | :( | |
| 19:01 | jcamins | cait: maybe now you can commiserate with magnuse? :) |
| 19:03 | drojf | he may at least have northern lights |
| 19:06 | magnuse | hm, it's been a while since i saw any aurora borealis |
| 19:07 | but i will not see the sun from where i live until ~9th of february... | |
| 19:07 | cait | ew |
| 19:07 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 19:07 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (7:50 PM CET on November 28, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:07 | magnuse | it hits the center of my town on ~9th of january, though |
| 19:25 | rangi | oleonard wins the prize, first library card to arrive |
| 19:26 | oleonard | Hooray! |
| 19:26 | magnuse | oleonard++ |
| 19:27 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 19:27 | rangi | the prize is 2 beverages of your choosing in reno |
| 19:27 | (ill post some of our koha stickers too) | |
| 19:27 | * cait | starts printing library cards |
| 19:28 | rangi | heh |
| 19:28 | i have none from germany yet! | |
| 19:28 | cait | BSZ own library is actually using Koha :) |
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| 19:30 | drojf | we don't have library cards :( |
| 19:33 | magnuse | hm, i could send you a card from the naval academy, but then i would have to kill you ;-) |
| 19:33 | cait | drojf: same for us |
| 19:33 | rangi | heh |
| 19:34 | rambutan | rangi is collecting library cards? |
| 19:34 | rangi | you didn't see my email? |
| 19:35 | rambutan | uh.... |
| 19:36 | uh, oh, yea. I did. I see it. | |
| 19:36 | rangi | daniel is gonna put it in the newsletter anyway i think |
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| 19:37 | rangi | progress is being made |
| 19:37 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/r[…]63/in/photostream | |
| 19:37 | * francharb | waves |
| 19:37 | rangi | http://www.flickr.com/photos/r[…]14/in/photostream <-- now |
| 19:38 | cait | :) |
| 19:38 | rangi | hi francharb |
| 19:40 | francharb | hi :) |
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| 19:42 | cait | good morning kathryn :) |
| 19:42 | kathryn | and a good evening to you cait :) |
| 19:46 | magnuse | rangi: cool 3d logo too! |
| 19:47 | rangi | ah yep thats seen a few conferences :) |
| 19:48 | cait | :) |
| 19:48 | magnuse | yay |
| 19:50 | weirdness: i switch to the cssr theme, but nothing happens. on 3.10 running off the packages | |
| 19:50 | are there any extra steps required? | |
| 19:53 | i'm also getting logged out of the staff side a lot | |
| 19:53 | and opac does not show me as logged in even though i am logged into staff | |
| 19:53 | huh? | |
| 19:54 | cait | do you have both on different domains? |
| 19:54 | magnuse | marc21.testing.bibkat.no and marc21.testing.bibkat.no:8080 |
| 19:54 | cait | hm |
| 19:58 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #239 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 5 days ago) |
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| 19:58 | nengard: update overdues image | |
| 20:08 | nengard | i'm working on the manual (obviously) and I need some help |
| 20:08 | The analytics section says "To view all of the items tied to the host record, do a search for the record, click the Analytics tab on the left and the analytics tied to each barcode will be shown under the "Used in" column." | |
| 20:09 | but I don't see anything under the 'Used In' column on any of my records | |
| 20:09 | I do see 'Host records' with a link though | |
| 20:09 | what should show in 'used in'? | |
| 20:13 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #240 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 5 days ago) |
| 20:13 | Project Koha_Docs build #240: STILL FAILING in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/240/ | |
| 20:13 | nengard: update cataloging images | |
| 20:28 | Starting build #241 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 5 days ago) | |
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| 20:28 | * nengard: update analytics | |
| 20:28 | * nengard: update more cataloging images | |
| 20:30 | oleonard | jcamins_away: Rebased patches submitted to Bug 7067. |
| 20:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7067 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , allow patron self registration via the opac |
| 20:32 | oleonard | Does anyone else see this "Debug is on (level 1)" message on memberentry.pl, mentioned on Bug 5280? I don't. |
| 20:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5280 enhancement, P4, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Fix password field in members.pl so that the password is masked as it is entered |
| 20:34 | cait | hm not yet |
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| 20:37 | garyb | Hello...hope someone can help with an upgrade of 3.8 to 3.10 |
| 20:38 | drojf | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 20:40 | oleonard | jcamins: Bug 9106 says "pushed to master" but as far as I can tell it hasn't been |
| 20:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9106 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information |
| 20:41 | jcamins | oleonard: let me check. |
| 20:42 | Indeed it does not. | |
| 20:42 | Okay, there it is. | |
| 20:43 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #242 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 5 days ago) |
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| 20:43 | nengard: update more cataloging images | |
| 20:46 | oleonard | jcamins++ |
| 20:47 | rambutan | jcamins: did the zebra index finish OK? |
| 20:48 | jcamins | rambutan: alas, it segfaulted. |
| 20:48 | After finishing. | |
| 20:48 | rambutan | hummm |
| 20:49 | garyb | Doing the upgrade from 3.8 --> 3.10 on 64-bit Debian 6.0.6 using koha-common package. I keep getting the message that the package is being "kept back". It appears libdigest-jhash-perl has a dependency of perlapi-5.14.2 but the standard version of perl in squeeze is 5.10.1-17. Is there a workaround? |
| 20:49 | jcamins | It hates me, clearly. |
| 20:49 | garyb: I can tell you that the dependency is unnecessary, but I don't know how to work around it. | |
| 20:49 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9106' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1328d07ebd5df0968> |
| 20:52 | jcamins | Right... problem seems to be a massively corrupted record + ICU. |
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| 20:54 | lavamind | hello |
| 20:54 | I would like to run multiple instances of Koha, starting from an identical database | |
| 20:54 | jcamins | lavamind: you can copy the database as many times as you'd like using mysqldump. |
| 20:55 | lavamind | my question is about zebra : can I simply copy the index files as well, or do I need to absolutely generate them with koha-rebuild |
| 20:55 | jcamins | You can copy the index files. |
| 20:55 | lavamind | yes! |
| 20:55 | jcamins | Right... back to CHR I go for bibs. |
| 20:55 | lavamind | thanks |
| 20:56 | jcamins | Wait, we still can't switch off ICU for just one database. |
| 20:56 | * jcamins | grumbles. |
| 20:58 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #958 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:03 | drojf | garyb: have you tried dist-upgrade? |
| 21:04 | jcamins | drojf: perl 5.14 is from Ubuntu. |
| 21:05 | garyb | I have. That was one of the first things I found online. While the "Packages" file for 32-bit lists 5.10.1, the 64-bit one lists 5.14.2 |
| 21:05 | drojf | hrm |
| 21:05 | jcamins | garyb: that's because the 64bit one was built on my system, wich has Perl 5.14.2, apparently. |
| 21:05 | Unfortunately, I don't know how to change that. | |
| 21:06 | garyb | Is this something that might be addressed in 3.10.1? |
| 21:08 | rangi | garyb: you are running 32 bit now? |
| 21:08 | jcamins | garyb: it depends if the package manager gets access to a 64-bit system. |
| 21:08 | garyb | No, 64-bit |
| 21:08 | rangi | right |
| 21:08 | jcamins | I don't know how to change the version of Perl that my packages ask for. |
| 21:08 | rangi | heres a trick you can do |
| 21:08 | jcamins: you edit the control file | |
| 21:09 | jcamins | rangi: I didn't generate the control file, though. |
| 21:09 | rangi: it seems to be setting the version in spite of the fact that I'm using eythian's configuration. | |
| 21:09 | rangi | jcamins: what i do is this |
| 21:09 | and garyb you could try this | |
| 21:10 | dh-make-perl make --cpan Digest::Jhash | |
| 21:11 | cd Digest-JHash-0.07 | |
| 21:11 | jcamins | Maybe if I tried pdebuild that'd do it. |
| 21:12 | rangi | dch -i |
| 21:12 | edit the changelog | |
| 21:12 | mine now says | |
| 21:13 | libdigest-jhash-perl (0.07-1ubuntu1) quantal; urgency=low | |
| 21:13 | debuild -us -uc | |
| 21:14 | that will build a package that will work fine on my system | |
| 21:14 | so garyb could now | |
| 21:14 | sudo dpkg -i ../libdigest-jhash-perl_0.07-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb | |
| 21:14 | (thats only fixing it for his situation) | |
| 21:14 | but yes for general you would do all the above | |
| 21:15 | but first you would do | |
| 21:15 | sudo pbuilder --login | |
| 21:15 | and do it in there :) | |
| 21:15 | at least i think that would work | |
| 21:15 | garyb | Thanks rangi, but I'm also concerned that others running 64-bit squeeze are seeing the same issue |
| 21:16 | rangi | yep they will be, it'll be something fixed before 3.10.1 |
| 21:16 | jcamins | rangi: ooooh, cever. |
| 21:16 | *clever | |
| 21:16 | I hadn't thought of just logging into pbuilder and doing it there. | |
| 21:16 | rangi | we'll probably have a 3.10.0-2 shortly |
| 21:17 | actually no | |
| 21:17 | we'll have a libdigest-jhash-perl_0.07-2 or something | |
| 21:17 | that is happy wiht 5.10 | |
| 21:17 | jcamins | Yeah, now that you explained how to do it, I'll build the package and leave it for eythian. |
| 21:17 | rangi | >= 5.10 anyway |
| 21:17 | awesome thanks | |
| 21:18 | garyb | Thanks, all. I'll stick with 3.8 for now and try the upgrade later. |
| 21:22 | magnuse | rangi++ jcamins++ |
| 21:23 | cait | :) |
| 21:23 | rangi++ | |
| 21:23 | he knows why | |
| 21:23 | hehe | |
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| 21:25 | magnuse | my problems from earlier seems to have been solved by removing all the other instances on that server. must research it some more, but not now |
| 21:26 | jcamins | What problems? |
| 21:26 | magnuse | weirdness |
| 21:27 | getting logged out of the staff client | |
| 21:27 | jcamins | Okay, that didn't work. |
| 21:27 | rangi | magnuse: using memcached ? |
| 21:27 | magnuse | sysprefs not saving |
| 21:27 | rangi: nope | |
| 21:27 | rangi | hmm |
| 21:27 | jcamins | debuild uses fakeroot. |
| 21:27 | magnuse | plain vanilla install of the 3.10 packages |
| 21:28 | it could have been a mysql problem, somehow | |
| 21:28 | jcamins | magnuse: gibberish in your timeout syspref. |
| 21:28 | magnuse | 12000000? |
| 21:28 | jcamins | I've had that happen before, though I thought was fixed. |
| 21:28 | Oh well. | |
| 21:28 | So much for that idea. | |
| 21:29 | magnuse | ...is what it says now |
| 21:29 | i'll do some more research in a day or two, and let y'all know | |
| 21:30 | * magnuse | wishes #koha a good night or other time of the day |
| 21:31 | jcamins | rangi: do you think you could build a package using dh-make-perl and tell me what dependencies the package ends up with? |
| 21:32 | rangi | i just did, but its quantal, so 5.14 |
| 21:32 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 21:32 | Right. | |
| 21:32 | Hm. | |
| 21:32 | Oh! | |
| 21:32 | The 32-bit package has Squeeze dependencies. | |
| 21:33 | rangi | ah yep |
| 21:36 | jcamins | I think I got it. |
| 21:37 | @later tell eythian I have a new version of the amd64 packages for libdigest-jhash-perl at http://kohadev.cpbibliography.[…]hash-amd64.tar.gz | |
| 21:37 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:38 | rangi | nice! |
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| 21:40 | jcamins | 467k records in. |
| 21:40 | If it dies again I shall be very unhappy. | |
| 21:41 | * cait | shall send you cookies |
| 21:42 | jcamins | I'd take those either way. :) |
| 21:42 | cait | and cookies for everyone giving an opinion on my latest mail to koha devel :) |
| 21:46 | eythian | jcamins: ta |
| 21:49 | rangi | http://demo.mykoha.co.nz/ |
| 21:49 | now running from the demo server | |
| 21:49 | cait | rangi: did you develop a hobbit mobile theme? |
| 21:50 | rangi | naw, but can you check that is 3.8.6 for you? |
| 21:50 | cait | rangi: broken js for me hm |
| 21:50 | rangi | can you do a shift-refresh please |
| 21:50 | cait | hm css |
| 21:50 | yep i did | |
| 21:50 | rangi | i had to do a couple then it seemed come right |
| 21:50 | the cart? | |
| 21:50 | cait | diyoumaybe miss moving a separate css file? |
| 21:50 | wahanui | it has been said that the cart is turned on, not sure lists should matter? (in the staff client) |
| 21:51 | rangi | it is 3.8.6 for you eh? |
| 21:51 | eythian | it doesn't reference files on an internal server does it? |
| 21:51 | rangi | ah probably |
| 21:51 | cait | rangi: layout still broken . checking version now |
| 21:51 | /opac-tmpl/prog/en/css/http://poe.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz/d[…]en/css/mykoha.css" /> | |
| 21:51 | that does look a bit weird | |
| 21:52 | rangi | yeah, ill fix |
| 21:52 | cait | but yes for the version :) |
| 21:55 | rangi | shift refresh now? |
| 21:55 | eythian | jcamins: new packages uploading |
| 21:55 | s/ing/ed/ | |
| 21:57 | cait | rangi: looks lots better |
| 21:57 | but still some weirdess | |
| 21:57 | is it iintentional the cart pic is missing? | |
| 21:57 | rangi | probably not |
| 22:03 | jcamins | Got up to 695k... that's farther than we got before. |
| 22:08 | drojf | jcamins: fingers crossed |
| 22:08 | jcamins | Merging now. |
| 22:11 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #958: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/958/ |
| 22:11 | oleonard: Bug 9106 - Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information | |
| 22:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9106 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information |
| 22:11 | jcamins | I don't see anywhere to enter a barcode on the order receive page. |
| 22:13 | Oh, right. | |
| 22:13 | I always forget that acquisitions DOESN'T WORK ON STOCK KOHA. | |
| 22:13 | cait | ? |
| 22:14 | jcamins | Without an ACQ framework, which isn't automatically created, it doesn't work. |
| 22:14 | cait | it used to work |
| 22:14 | they broke it :( | |
| 22:15 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 22:18 | eythian | yeah, it definitely used to work. |
| 22:20 | cait | jcamins: sounds like a bug |
| 22:20 | jcamins | cait: yeah. |
| 22:20 | It's called the Acquisitions module. | |
| 22:21 | cait | well... |
| 22:21 | eah, but let's start with small steps | |
| 22:21 | jcamins | cait: small steps are going to be difficult... I'm not pushing anything that I can't even kind of test. |
| 22:22 | cait | jcamins: i agree with you |
| 22:22 | which patch are you looking at? | |
| 22:22 | and I meant rewriting the acq framework will be hard - so we have to fix it small steps | |
| 22:22 | jcamins | bug 8557. |
| 22:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8557 normal, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Passed QA , in orderreceive.tt and serials-edit.tt the use of a barcode scan send the form unexpectedly |
| 22:22 | cait | at least until you ifnished the search rewrite ;) |
| 22:22 | and then you can start on acq | |
| 22:22 | hm rewriting acquisitions | |
| 22:22 | * cait | had a long day |
| 22:23 | cait | jcamins: and your default framework has no barcode? |
| 22:23 | what exactly are you doing? I could test and I think I don't have one hm. | |
| 22:23 | jcamins | No, it's much worse than that. |
| 22:23 | The majority of the acquisitions module simply does not do anything at all. | |
| 22:24 | The screen that the patch is supposd to change doesn't include anywhere to edit a barcode. | |
| 22:24 | cait | jcamins: did you set AcqCreateItem to on receive? |
| 22:24 | it sounds like you hve it 'on order' | |
| 22:25 | jcamins | I didn't set anything. |
| 22:25 | That's why I asked for a detailed test plan from the beginning. | |
| 22:25 | I habitually avoid the Acquisitions module because it's bad for my blood pressure. | |
| 22:26 | cait | it's in the bug somewhere |
| 22:27 | francharb | see ya later! |
| 22:27 | * francharb | waves at #koha |
| 22:27 | * jcamins | has an average of fifteen bugs to review every time he has a chance to work on RMy things. People will learn not to bury the lede. :) |
| 22:27 | cait | hehe |
| 22:27 | jcamins | And to provide test plans. |
| 22:27 | cait | I can't find it in th bug now to be honest |
| 22:28 | jcamins | It might be there. |
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| 22:28 | * jcamins | should have a rule: after ten minutes of not being able to figure out what the deal is with a patch, it is automatically failed. |
| 22:29 | cait | jcamins: to do the patch justice - first sentence in the very first message on the bug :) |
| 22:29 | in orderreceive when you receive an order with 'AcqCreateItem ' on 'receiving', you must first fill the 'Item' block and validating by clicking 'add' before clicking the 'save' button. | |
| 22:30 | maybe it would be good to remind people to put that into their commit messages too :) | |
| 22:30 | jcamins | Yes, I will do that. |
| 22:34 | eythian | cait: that wouldn't work |
| 22:34 | because if it's a bug reported by an end-user, you can't always expect it to be in that form. | |
| 22:34 | (I was going to say "coherent", but I guess it's just Cynical Thursday today) | |
| 22:35 | jcamins | eythian: sorry, if the developer can't copy and paste, I'm not pushing the patch anyway. |
| 22:35 | eythian | jcamins: but what happens if the developer didn't create the bug request? They have no control over the first message on the bug. |
| 22:36 | jcamins | But I don't look at the first message in the bug. |
| 22:36 | I couldn't care less what's there. | |
| 22:36 | I want the commit message to tell me what I need to know. | |
| 22:36 | Otherwise, I have to do the developer's job *and* my job. | |
| 22:37 | eythian | that's why I was replying to: <cait> jcamins: to do the patch justice - first sentence in the very first message on the bug :) |
| 22:37 | wizzyrea | I wouldn't mind the description |
| 22:37 | jcamins | Oh, cait's saying the explanation is there. |
| 22:37 | eythian | ohh |
| 22:37 | I misread then | |
| 22:37 | jcamins | I think. |
| 22:37 | * jcamins | isn't looking. |
| 22:37 | * eythian | goes back to whatever it is he's supposed to be doing |
| 22:38 | cait | lol |
| 22:38 | jcamins | I'm writing an e-mail saying "if you don't include the information I need on the commit message, you're begging for your patches to be left dangling." |
| 22:38 | cait | I step away for a short moment... |
| 22:38 | * wizzyrea | hopes you actually say what info you want >.> |
| 22:38 | cait | eythian, jcamins: what I meant was remind the patch writers to put all needed informaton in the commit message - so I guess we all agree actually :) |
| 22:38 | jcamins | wizzyrea: yes. |
| 22:39 | wizzyrea | I consider test plans to be not-optional |
| 22:39 | :P | |
| 22:39 | coherent test plans. | |
| 22:51 | cait | :) |
| 22:51 | good night #koha! | |
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| 23:16 | jcamins | mveron++ |
| 23:29 | wizzyrea: was that clear enough? | |
| 23:29 | About what I want, I mean. :) | |
| 23:31 | And by "want" I of course mean "require." | |
| 23:32 | Bet no one realized I was such an irascible martinet. :P | |
| 23:32 | * eythian | plans commit messages in sonnet form |
| 23:33 | jcamins | eythian: commit messages of literary merit receive bonus points. |
| 23:54 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9030' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]10bad4e3573a53f22> / Bug 9030: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8a5cb8289bc48a8f8> / Bug 9030: Add constraint on aqorders_items.ordernumber <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f;h=550ac77bfd019 |
| 23:58 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #959 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 23:58 | jcamins | @later tell melia If you run `git config --global user.email "melia AT bywatersolutions.com"` (without the backticks, and putting in an @ character) on the system you're using for testing, your actual e-mail address will appear on signoffs instead of the @test.bywatersolutions.com address. I think rangi and I both have mapping files so that those signoffs are collapsed into your regular address, but you might want to change it anyway. |
| 23:58 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:59 | jcamins | Of course, I only noticed that after merging. |
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