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00:42 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Hello everyone. Anyone on that might be able to tell me what field I would need to use to get a query to output the "for Librarians" notes on patrons' accounts? |
00:43 | eythian | http://schema.koha-community.o[…]es/borrowers.html <-- YoungPublicLibrarian |
00:43 | specifically, borrowernotes | |
00:43 | "a note on the patron/borroewr's account that is only visible in the staff client" | |
00:43 | YoungPublicLibrarian | That only gives the notes in the Circ or OPAC fields. But not the messages entered through the "Add New Message" link |
00:44 | eythian | ah, then I'm not sure, but you may be able to poke around the schema page to find it |
00:46 | YoungPublicLibrarian | I found the messages.message field. But it only returns "for Patron" notes entered. Can't find any fields that specify "for Librarians" notes... |
00:48 | I was actually rather surprised. I really thought I had it dead to rights when I found the messages.message field and got the report working properly | |
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02:38 | jcamins | Oh my. |
02:38 | mtompset has been gone a week, and they're redoing the migration? | |
02:38 | eythian | is it the same people? |
02:39 | jcamins | SIL Phillipines. |
02:39 | eythian | Where'd mtompset go? |
02:39 | jcamins | Back home to Canada. |
02:39 | eythian | because he finished? |
02:39 | rangi | hmm? |
02:39 | jcamins | Right. |
02:39 | On the list. | |
02:39 | rangi | mailing list? |
02:39 | wahanui | hmmm... mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
02:39 | jcamins | Yeah. |
02:39 | rangi | wow |
02:41 | eythian | By finished, I mean completed. |
02:41 | jcamins | Right. |
02:41 | That's what I understood you to mean. | |
02:41 | eythian | So, why would they be doing that? |
02:41 | jcamins | Well, not my problem. |
02:41 | eythian | true |
02:41 | * jcamins | can't imagine. |
02:41 | jcamins | My problem today was upgrading my clients' servers. |
02:41 | It was glorious. | |
02:41 | eythian | sounds ... fun? |
02:42 | jcamins | Other than reindexing 400k records, it took 1 hour. |
02:42 | Counting the package build. | |
02:42 | eythian | ah, nice |
02:42 | oh yeah, that's going to be my problem today too. | |
02:42 | jcamins | Reindexing 400k records took a long time. |
02:42 | eythian | I've gotten a little behind on package stuff, so I'm going to catch up today (and did some of that on Friday) |
02:42 | It would, yeah | |
02:43 | jcamins | Actually, that's not right. |
02:43 | 400k bibs. | |
02:43 | ... 600k auths? | |
02:43 | eythian | that's a lot |
02:43 | jcamins | Yeah, one authority for every single heading. |
02:43 | Don't ask. It's tragic. | |
02:43 | eythian | heh |
02:44 | jcamins | However, I'm done, so it's time for bed. |
02:44 | Good night. | |
02:44 | eythian | later jcamins_away |
02:44 | wahanui: Newfoundland is the "Untitled Document" of place names. | |
02:44 | wahanui | ...but newfoundland is the Untitled Document of place names.... |
02:44 | eythian | oh |
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03:15 | eythian | gmcharlt: you happen to be around? |
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03:18 | vera | Hi all, I've got a quick question. I've used the tarball option in the past to successfully install koha - its up and running, and its great. Now I see that there is a Ubuntu packages method - can I switch to the packages method of updating, or would I need to freshly install koha using the packages method in order to update koha with packages. |
03:18 | eythian | wahanui: listen is http://animalstalkinginallcaps[…]ng-me-for-fission |
03:18 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
03:19 | eythian | Well, if you undo the stuff you did for the tarball, you can install the packages, and migrate your data over. |
03:20 | The closer you get to a fresh install, things will be easier though | |
03:20 | vera | I suspected so.. I will do that in the future at some point. Thanks. |
03:22 | By the way, the tarball will still be alright to use in the future - there is no need to change is there? | |
03:23 | eythian | No, the tarball won't go anywhere. |
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04:59 | * Oak_ | waves |
05:00 | eythian | @later tell gmcharlt I'd like a git repo on git.k-c.org to put the perl package dependencies in. |
05:00 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
05:00 | eythian | @later tell gmcharlt also a pony, if you don't mind :) |
05:00 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
05:18 | eythian | @later tell rangi C4::HoldsQueue causes a failed test on master due to database. |
05:18 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
05:18 | rangi | There's a patch for that already |
05:19 | We just need Paul to push it | |
05:19 | eythian | ah right |
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06:00 | eythian | new packages deployed. share and enjoy. |
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06:08 | reiveune | hello |
06:08 | cait | hi reiveune :) |
06:08 | reiveune | bonjour cait :) |
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06:35 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
06:36 | eythian++ | |
06:39 | hm, why am i not seeing po files for nb-NO 3.10? fredericd? | |
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06:43 | francharb | Hello #koha |
06:44 | magnuse | bonjour francharb |
06:49 | francharb | hellø magnuse ! ;) |
06:49 | magnuse | hellæøå! |
06:49 | francharb | haha |
06:50 | :) | |
06:50 | magnuse | :-) |
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06:55 | julian_m | hello |
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07:00 | alex_a | bonjour |
07:00 | wahanui | hi, alex_a |
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07:03 | lds | hello |
07:03 | wahanui | hi, lds |
07:07 | magnuse | heh, o'reilly is doing a "bad data handbook" - i wonder if there is a chapter on MARC... |
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07:15 | Joubu | hello #koha |
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07:24 | drojf | lol magnuse |
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07:31 | magnuse | kia ora Joubu drojf paul_p julian_m sophie_m et al |
07:31 | sophie_m | hello magnuse |
07:31 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
07:31 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 17.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on October 23, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
07:32 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
07:32 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on October 23, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
07:32 | magnuse | hmm... |
07:35 | * drojf | wanders off |
07:35 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
07:36 | magnuse | hiya paul_p and congrats on the string freeze :-) |
07:36 | paul_p | magnuse well, that's quite easy to declare a string freeze. I've no merit. What i'd like is to have a 0-bug 3.10 release ! |
07:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]show_bug.cgi?id=3 normal, P2, ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, mod_env module checking in installer.pl |
07:37 | paul_p | hey, huginn thought I wanted to see the bug three :D |
07:37 | magnuse | well, that one is fixed at least :-) |
07:38 | maybe we should have a "global let's test the c**p out of master day" or something? | |
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07:49 | * Oak | waves |
07:49 | Oak | magnuse |
07:50 | magnuse | Oak |
07:50 | :-) | |
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07:51 | kf | good morning #koha |
07:51 | magnuse | welcome back kf |
07:51 | kf | thx :) |
07:51 | only for a day tho | |
07:54 | magnuse | holiday? |
07:55 | kf | yep 3 weeks :) |
07:56 | magnuse | ooh, lucky you! |
07:56 | well deserved, of course | |
07:57 | kf: what do you think of a global "let's test the c**p out of master day" or something? | |
07:57 | or week for that matter | |
08:02 | kf | magnuse: I think a great idea |
08:02 | brb | |
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09:31 | gerundio | hi, good morning |
09:31 | got another question for you :) | |
09:32 | what's the objective of the zebradb/marc_defs/unimarc/biblios/record.abs file and in under what conditions should it be edited? | |
09:51 | magnuse | gerundio: that file tells zebra how you want the different parts of your marc records indexed |
09:51 | you would edit it if there is something about the way zebra indexes records that you are not happy about | |
09:53 | gerundio | so it's a pretty standard procedure, right? |
09:53 | magnuse | what is standard procedure? editing it? |
09:54 | gerundio | yes |
09:54 | magnuse | i would guess most people leave it alon |
09:54 | gerundio | let me give you some more context on this |
09:55 | I'm working with a person who has no problem on changing source code and such in a production environment | |
09:56 | so far I've managed to do all the things he did without changing a single source code line | |
09:56 | according to his notes I'm down to one last task, which is make some changes on the record.abs file | |
09:57 | magnuse | ah, yeah people *do* change their record.abs, so in that way it's sort of kind of standard |
09:57 | just make sure you know what changes you did and keep an eye on them after upgrades | |
09:58 | s/standard/standard procedure/ | |
10:15 | gerundio | magnuse, thanks for the advise |
10:15 | I'm holding on to the original file, just renamed it | |
10:15 | created a new one with a diferent name too | |
10:16 | and used a sym link to change between them as needed | |
10:18 | magnuse | sounds like you are in control :-) |
10:18 | and remember that when you change anything you have to do a full reindex to see the results :-) | |
10:22 | paul_p | is it really time for lunch ? wow... time passes too fast. Really |
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10:41 | gerundio | magnuse, I still haven't added any records so no reindex needed :D |
10:41 | but thanks for the heads up | |
10:41 | magnuse | gerundio: yay! :-) |
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10:51 | * kf | waves |
11:02 | kf | oleonard? |
11:02 | wahanui | i heard oleonard was still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
11:02 | * kf | wishes |
11:05 | jcamins | gerundio: what changes were made to record.abs? |
11:05 | gerundio | hmm, let me see and get back to you on that one |
11:06 | * jcamins | doesn't know UNIMARC, but knows a fair amount about Zebra. |
11:07 | pastebot | "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "record.abs changes" (124 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/245 |
11:08 | gerundio | jcamins, lots of changes... take a look and tell what you make of them :D |
11:10 | jcamins | All whitespace changes. |
11:11 | Could you redo that diff with -b? | |
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11:14 | jcamins | fredericd++ |
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11:39 | jcamins | Today's the day! |
11:41 | drojf | what day? |
11:41 | wahanui | day is over, and the passed QA list is empty. Bye bye #koha ! |
11:41 | drojf | search rewrite done? |
11:42 | jcamins | drojf: no, my last release as RMaint. |
11:44 | drojf | the internet says the equivalent to the german phrase that comes to mind is "out of the frying pan into the fire" |
11:44 | jcamins | Yup. |
11:44 | That is a very appropriate phrase. | |
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12:11 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #63 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #58 1 mo 9 days ago) |
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12:46 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
12:47 | tcohen | hi oleonard |
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12:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #63: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/63/ |
12:54 | * f.demians: 3.6.10 Translation Update | |
12:54 | * jcamins: Add release notes for Koha 3.6.10 | |
12:54 | * jcamins: Bump version number for 3.6.10 release | |
12:54 | magnuse | jcamins++ |
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13:00 | tcohen | git rebase -i origin/master |
13:00 | oops | |
13:00 | magnuse | :-) |
13:00 | * tcohen | forgot his lenses, has focus problems :-P |
13:01 | * jcamins | has the other kind of focus problem. |
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13:06 | jcamins | Guess I need to e-mail the list and announce that 3.6 has been orphaned. |
13:10 | oleonard | ...the poor little princess... |
13:12 | pastebot | "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "record.abs diff -b changes" (72 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/246 |
13:13 | gerundio | jcamins, back and here's the diff -b you asked for earlier |
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13:13 | jcamins | Which is the one that was modified? |
13:13 | First one is the changed one? | |
13:14 | Wow. | |
13:14 | gerundio | 1st one is the change one and 2nd is original |
13:14 | before you say anything, let me tell you I don't know what those changes are about | |
13:14 | jcamins | That's... different. |
13:14 | gerundio | these were done by a colleague of mine |
13:15 | who's been providing IT support to our faculty library for a long time now | |
13:15 | jcamins | He removed a lot of indexes. |
13:15 | gerundio | does it make any sense? |
13:15 | jcamins | It makes sense insofar as the syntax is correct. |
13:16 | In terms of functionality... | |
13:16 | I think you may have shown me the most absurd Zebra configuration changes I have ever seen. | |
13:16 | You'll need the 090 change. | |
13:17 | Other than that, you'll need to ask him what on earth he was thinking. | |
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13:21 | gerundio | jcamins, that's not nice |
13:21 | my knowledge on this is very limited | |
13:22 | it seems like I'll have to dig deeper into it and try to make sense of it | |
13:22 | jcamins | gerundio: I can explain what each change does. |
13:22 | I can't explain why anyone would make such a change, though. | |
13:22 | And that's really the important question. | |
13:22 | gerundio | lololol |
13:23 | jcamins | I'm not a UNIMARC expert, but it looks to me like he eliminated all thd indexes on coded fields. |
13:23 | gerundio | I don't think the person who did it can explain it either |
13:23 | jcamins | *the |
13:24 | Just to confirm... all your data is already in Koha, right? | |
13:24 | gerundio | no |
13:24 | I haven't imported any records yet | |
13:24 | jcamins | In that case, throw out all the changes. |
13:24 | gerundio | I think that will be the last thing to do |
13:25 | jcamins | Where is the data coming from? |
13:25 | gerundio | that might be a problem, not a technical one, but a working relationship one :) |
13:25 | jcamins | Hehe. |
13:25 | I mean, in terms of software. | |
13:25 | Another ILS? | |
13:26 | gerundio | does this explanation sound reasonable?? "I don't know what this does, but we're not going to use because jcamins said not to!!" |
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13:26 | * jcamins | thinks it does. :P |
13:26 | jcamins | The 090 changes where the biblionumber is indexed. |
13:26 | This usually causes problems. | |
13:27 | It's necessary if you already have the data in Koha with the biblionumber in 090$a, but it sounds like you don't. | |
13:27 | gerundio | jcamins, yes, we're migrating from DocBase |
13:28 | jcamins | The other lines remove indexes on 071, 072, 100 (I know this is very bad!), 102, 105, 110, 115, 116, 208, 207, 230, 461, 464, and 995$k. |
13:29 | From my point of view, this is crippling the good part of UNIMARC: the coded data. | |
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13:38 | jcamins | I'm sure the person who made the changes must have had a reason. |
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13:40 | gerundio | ok ok |
13:41 | my colleague already did this a data migration on its own koha installation | |
13:41 | jcamins | (note: I disagree strenuously with those reasons, whatever they might be, but it'd be useful for you to know) |
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13:41 | gerundio | now I've picked up the process to make sure that the koha setup is done by the book with no unecessary changes |
13:42 | I knew it wasn't going to be easy :) | |
13:42 | thanks for your input on this | |
13:43 | I'll try some social engineering with him now, to see if I can get to know those reasons you disagree with xD | |
13:46 | btw, do these changes might have anything to do with changes on the NoZebraIndexes value? | |
13:46 | jcamins | Ah-ha. |
13:46 | Yes, he was probably trying to make it work exactly the way NoZebra did. | |
13:47 | However, that's a bad idea, because NoZebra doesn't work. | |
13:49 | tcohen | jcamins, how will the removal of nozebra stuff affect the work to integrate solr? |
13:50 | jcamins | tcohen: it wont'. |
13:50 | *won't | |
13:50 | tcohen | are they unrelated ? |
13:50 | ok | |
13:50 | unrelated at fs level | |
13:51 | jcamins | Yeah, the NoZebra code is in C4::Search, and the Solr stuff is separate. |
13:51 | tcohen | eythian: i've attached a followup for bug 8773 |
13:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup |
13:51 | jcamins | I am rewriting C4::Search, gradually, and making it more like the Solr code. |
13:51 | tcohen | so, you're the guy that will remove nozebra |
13:52 | jcamins | That's me. |
13:53 | * oleonard | cheers jcamins |
14:00 | gerundio | hmm, interesting |
14:00 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
14:00 | gerundio | lolol |
14:00 | caught me on that one | |
14:01 | jcamins, I saw some mentions on Apache Solr before and as I was seeing you talking about it | |
14:01 | jcamins | gerundio: yeah, it's not ready for production. |
14:01 | gerundio | how does it stand now as a Zebra alternative? |
14:01 | jcamins | It's not. |
14:01 | gerundio | ok, I guess that answers the question :D |
14:02 | I read what you said about the NoZebra... can you explain a lit bit more what that field is supposed to do? | |
14:03 | jcamins | It doesn't do anything now. |
14:03 | It used to be an alternative to Zebra that used only MySQL. | |
14:03 | But that was a while ago. | |
14:03 | gerundio | and basically the NoZebraIndexes were just used if the option NoZebra was set to "Don't use"? |
14:03 | jcamins | Right. |
14:04 | gerundio | hmm, one less problem then |
14:04 | because he changed that too and I wasn't sure what that was supposed to do :) | |
14:05 | jcamins | It was supposed to set what indexes Koha used in NoZebra mode. |
14:06 | gerundio | now I understand |
14:06 | basically koha had its own search engine built around MySQL | |
14:06 | jcamins | Right. |
14:07 | gerundio | from what I could tell during the setup process zebra is now a mandatory requirement, right? |
14:07 | jcamins | Yes. |
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14:16 | tcohen | fredericd, could u take a look at this and tell me the correct workflow? |
14:16 | http://translate.koha-communit[…]ate/?unit=3774172 | |
14:16 | should I just prepend the acquisitions.pref#BasketConfirmations# part? | |
14:22 | anyone from the translation team? or with some expertise on the subject? | |
14:31 | libsysguy | question: for a package install should I still have to export perl5lib and koha_conf? |
14:31 | jcamins | libsysguy: yes, koha-shell hasn't gotten in yet. |
14:33 | libsysguy | gotcha |
14:34 | jcamins do you know the path to those off the top of your head | |
14:34 | if not I'll go look at that patch heh | |
14:35 | beat you to it | |
14:40 | kf | drojf: around? |
14:41 | drojf | kf: somewhat. not really |
14:41 | why? | |
14:42 | kf | pm |
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14:54 | fredericd | tcohen: This is a valid translation: http://translate.koha-communit[…]ate/?unit=3819440 |
14:55 | tcohen | thanks, bgkriegel explained to me that prefs are translated in a different way |
14:55 | i've just fixed my mis-translations | |
14:55 | thanks | |
15:08 | jcamins | "One further note about 3.6.10: this upgrade included fixes for several cross-site scripting (XSS) vulnerabilities in Koha that have been present at least since 3.4. ALL USERS OF KOHA SHOULD UPGRADE TO THE LATEST RELEASE ON THE BRANCH THEY ARE FOLLOWING TO RECEIVE PROTECTION FROM THESE THREATS. |
15:08 | ^^ is that clear? | |
15:16 | kf | scary |
15:16 | clear | |
15:17 | * jcamins | is thinking of sending a separate e-mail with the subject "Security vulnerability disclosure" with the same message. |
15:18 | drojf | not scary enough |
15:19 | "never touch a running livecd" | |
15:19 | jcamins | Good point. |
15:20 | Guess an e-mail to Vimal Kumar is needed. | |
15:20 | * jcamins | sighs |
15:20 | jcamins | Grr. |
15:20 | I hate livecds. | |
15:21 | drojf | i think he is travelling |
15:21 | until… tomorrow? | |
15:21 | i plan to spread more annoyance in the livecd thread when he is back ;) | |
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15:22 | jcamins | Hehe. |
15:29 | kf | :) |
15:29 | magnuse: around? | |
15:30 | drojf | Facebook -> Buch. i should keep that translation |
15:30 | or make it gesichtsbuch | |
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15:38 | kf | drojf: hmmm I am nt sure |
15:39 | drojf | "relevance asc". who would sort something by "give me the least relevant first, please"? |
15:39 | kf | maybe more grimassenbuch? |
15:39 | drojf | lol |
15:39 | Joubu | bye ++ |
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15:46 | * McCloud[A] | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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15:49 | vfernandes | Hi guys... I having a problem searching for authorities |
15:49 | Can't call method "data" on an undefined value at /opt/koha/lib/C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm line 310 | |
15:50 | a have a test server and a production server | |
15:50 | jcamins | What version of Koha? |
15:50 | vfernandes | in the test server everything is fine... in the production server not |
15:51 | 3.2... but I think it's a zebra problem | |
15:51 | jcamins | You can try reindexing. |
15:51 | 3.2 is too old for me to offer any help beyond that suggestion. | |
15:52 | vfernandes | 3.2 is not the problem because the problem will appear also in the test server |
15:53 | jcamins | What version is the test server running? |
15:53 | vfernandes | the same |
15:53 | jcamins | Right, I'm not saying the problem is 3.2. |
15:53 | I'm saying I can't help you troubleshoot. | |
15:54 | Beyond general advice like "figure out what changed." | |
15:54 | Also, so you know, I'm pretty sure 3.2 has several XSS vulnerabilities. | |
15:54 | vfernandes | reindex worked... |
15:55 | wasn't reindex... stop and start zebra then reindex solved | |
15:55 | jcamins | Good. |
15:58 | * drojf | mumbles "not scary enough" … |
15:59 | drojf | not that i know anything about that but there must be some translation platform more sophisticated than pootle?! |
16:00 | translators should not have to spend their time shifting '%s' around | |
16:01 | jcamins | drojf: maybe poedit is better? |
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16:04 | drojf | will that work with multiple translators? i think you have to download and reupload the po files which may lead to problems since there are several german translators |
16:04 | jcamins | Probably not. |
16:06 | drojf | or we have to work in shifts |
16:27 | kf | poedit is the same for %s |
16:27 | and working in shifts... scary :) | |
16:28 | Oak | time to go home kf |
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16:30 | skk | can someone tell me if i add */1 * * * * $KOHA_CRON_PATH/../migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r >/dev/null in crontab will it have any effect in koha functioning |
16:32 | jcamins | skk: it will, yes. |
16:32 | It will crash your server if you have more than ~100 records. | |
16:32 | skk | oh |
16:33 | i have not been able to configure zebra on livecd | |
16:33 | jcamins | What are you trying to do? |
16:33 | skk | with latest koha |
16:33 | jcamins | Well, with an older version of Koha that has serious security vulnerabilities. |
16:33 | skk | and when i try to check for records in opac koha zebra gives error as DBD::mysql::st fetchrow_hashref failed: fetch() without execute() at /home/koha/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl line 125. DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'koha.zebraqueue' doesn't exist at /home/koha/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl line 124. |
16:33 | do u knw what could be solution for this error | |
16:34 | * oleonard | starts mumbling in tune with drojf |
16:34 | jcamins | Yes. |
16:34 | Don't use the livecd. | |
16:34 | You should not be using zebraqueue_daemon. | |
16:34 | It has been deprecated for two years. | |
16:34 | skk | then what could be used instead of zebraqueue_daemon |
16:34 | jcamins | rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z |
16:35 | And it should be every 5 minutes, not every one minute. | |
16:35 | skk | what is alternative for zebraque_daemon then |
16:35 | jcamins | I just told you. |
16:35 | (your question earlier used -r instead of -z, which causes rebuild_zebra to rebuild the entire index from scratch every time it's run; with -z, it will only update changed records) | |
16:36 | If you change it to */5 from */1 and -z from -r, that line you listed above will work. | |
16:37 | skk | ok i wanted to knw about "should not be using zebraqueue_daemon" part |
16:37 | jcamins | Using -r (which is what I thought the question was about when you asked) will definitely cause your system to crash. |
16:37 | You should be using rebuild_zebra.pl. | |
16:37 | They are alternatives. | |
16:38 | skk | so no need to start zebra and zebraqueue while machine reboots |
16:38 | i had put them in update-rc.d | |
16:38 | jcamins | You need to start zebra, not zebraqueue. |
16:38 | skk | oh ok thanx |
16:38 | jcamins | Are you sure you're using the latest livecd? |
16:38 | What version of Koha does it have? | |
16:38 | And where did you get it? | |
16:39 | skk | i am compiling the CD on lubuntu with latest koha |
16:39 | jcamins | Ohhh. |
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16:39 | jcamins | You didn't _download_ a CD. |
16:39 | You are _making_ a CD. | |
16:39 | mveron | Good evening #koha |
16:39 | skk | yes |
16:39 | jcamins | That makes a *huge* difference in my advice. |
16:39 | skk | why |
16:39 | jcamins | The latest livecd that is available for download has serious security vulnerabilities. |
16:40 | skk | like |
16:40 | jcamins | If you're making your own, for your own use, I won't tell you not to use it. |
16:40 | XSS vulnerabilities in the OPAC. | |
16:40 | skk | no we circulate the cd |
16:40 | jcamins | They're fixed in 3.6.10 and 3.8.6. |
16:40 | skk | i am trying to compile livecd with latest 3.8.6 only |
16:40 | jcamins | You should use packages. |
16:40 | Much easier. | |
16:41 | skk | what is packages |
16:41 | wahanui | packages is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
16:41 | jcamins | (they're not available for 3.8.6 yet, I don't think, but they will be soon) |
16:41 | For Debian and Ubuntu, you can install Koha with apt-get install koha-common | |
16:41 | It then takes care of all the Zebra configuration for you. | |
16:42 | skk | i am compiling koha 3.8.6 from manual install |
16:42 | jcamins | Yeah, that's a lot more error-prone. |
16:42 | As you have noticed. | |
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16:45 | skk | thanks |
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16:50 | kf | jcamins: what jcamins said, using a cronjob |
16:50 | argh. | |
16:50 | scrolling broken, ignore me. | |
16:50 | jcamins | kf: again? |
16:50 | kf | all the time |
16:50 | it just stops autoscrolling sometimes | |
16:50 | jcamins | You need a client with working scrolling! |
16:50 | kf | i do |
16:51 | mveron | Hi kf :-) |
16:55 | kf | hi mveron |
16:56 | mveron | Translating? |
16:56 | wahanui | Translating is ok of course :) |
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17:02 | jcamins | oleonard: oh, oleonard. Question for you: didn't you just fix some background in IE? |
17:04 | Bug 7687 | |
17:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7687 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove problematic CSS gradient declarations targeting Internet Explorer |
17:04 | jcamins | No. |
17:04 | That's old. | |
17:04 | And unpatched. | |
17:06 | oleonard | jcamins: Someone did for the new theme |
17:07 | kf | hi oleonard - help? |
17:07 | oleonard | Sure |
17:07 | kf | what jcamins asked |
17:07 | jcamins | I just can't find that bug. |
17:07 | Ooh. | |
17:07 | Bug 8885 | |
17:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8885 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , OPAC with ccsr theme in IE9 |
17:08 | jcamins | kf: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]12826&action=diff |
17:08 | That's easiest, I guess. Just removing the filter lines, if you're patching anyway. | |
17:09 | kf | I am not patching :( |
17:10 | can I do something like filter:none | |
17:10 | jcamins | kf: http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]de-ie-css-filters |
17:11 | kf | I still don't get it :( |
17:12 | in the patch I don't see the element and firebug is trying to be difficult | |
17:14 | pastebot | "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "kf: try this" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/247 |
17:14 | jcamins | Firebug won't ever show you those lines, since they're not valid CSS. |
17:15 | kf | oooooh |
17:15 | that's better | |
17:15 | jcamins: yep, that was the problem | |
17:15 | jcamins++ oleonard++ :) | |
17:15 | thanks! | |
17:15 | jcamins | Internet Explorer: rising from the grave to make your life miserable. |
17:16 | kf | oleonard: do you have a hint/trick to make the font-sizes a bit bigger in firefox but not making them go super large in ie the same time? |
17:16 | and the language switcher does wonky things in ie :( | |
17:16 | oleonard | You'd have to either use a conditional stylesheet for IE or use some kind of CSS hack |
17:16 | kf | it moves up across the text and login box |
17:16 | hm ok | |
17:16 | and the easiest way to increase font size in both? | |
17:17 | I am a bit confused by em/% and px | |
17:18 | oleonard | I think it's easiest to use % to adjust font sizes |
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17:18 | oleonard | Do you want to increase font size everywhere? |
17:18 | rhcl | @seen nengard |
17:18 | huginn | rhcl: nengard was last seen in #koha 4 days, 0 hours, 50 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <nengard> I'll be back |
17:19 | jcamins | kf: using font: 100%... doesn't work in IE? |
17:20 | kf | jcamins: it looks fine in ie |
17:20 | but the library requested the font-size to be a bit bigger | |
17:20 | and I agree that it's ab it small in firefox | |
17:21 | oleonard: I think everything in proportion should work | |
17:21 | hopefully | |
17:21 | jcamins | Try 110%? |
17:21 | In Chrome it looks quite reasonable at 100%. | |
17:21 | kf | oh you are right |
17:24 | drojf | mveron: i already translated the incredible number of 89 strings, your turn ;) |
17:25 | mveron | Ok, I give it a try :-) |
17:25 | kf | oleonard: you think it looks ok now? |
17:25 | drojf | mveron: or are you just waiting for us to do german so you can mooch the swiss search+replace translation off of us? :P |
17:26 | mveron | No no... |
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17:26 | drojf | just kidding ;) |
17:26 | mveron | :-) |
17:26 | drojf | i think you translated more than i did for the last version :) |
17:26 | oleonard | Looks good to me kf |
17:26 | * kf | gives cookies to the busy translators |
17:27 | kf | oleonard: thanks for your help! |
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17:27 | kf | it's getting really late here and I had to solve this |
17:28 | * mveron | does not find "Overall que priority:" in his Opac, just to get the context... |
17:29 | kf | jcamins: changing to 120% doesn't make much of a change for me |
17:29 | that is werid | |
17:29 | drojf | mveron: you might need 3.10 installed for that? |
17:30 | kf | hm |
17:30 | shouldn't that be queue? | |
17:30 | drojf | true |
17:30 | mveron | I am on master |
17:30 | kf | I htink maybe the holds list or the detail page |
17:30 | drojf | did not pay attention to the actual string |
17:30 | kf | with the syspref to show priority on detail |
17:31 | drojf | mveron: ok |
17:32 | mveron | kf: You are right: Overall queue priority: |
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17:36 | maximep | I don't understand bug 8885 |
17:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8885 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , OPAC with ccsr theme in IE9 |
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17:36 | maximep | works fine in ie9 here :S |
17:37 | and removing those lines will remove the grading in all is < 10 :S | |
17:38 | *in all IE | |
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17:39 | drojf | it's IE, so you have to try all installations on earth, not all versions |
17:39 | maximep | sure |
17:39 | kf | bye all :) |
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17:39 | maximep | that's why those gradients have like 12 fallbacks :p |
17:40 | drojf | lol |
17:40 | maximep | maybe there's just something different in master than what we use |
17:40 | heh | |
17:44 | libsysguy | oleonard did you do the addbiblio thing that makes the change framework follow you down the page |
17:44 | if you did, its cool | |
17:44 | oleonard | I did, based on someone else's work |
17:44 | libsysguy | well oleonard++ |
17:45 | for someone else's work | |
17:45 | :p | |
18:06 | oleonard | So, the self checkout system checks the book out to whatever card number is in a hidden field? That seems not secure at all :| |
18:07 | * oleonard | uses firebug to change the card number and check out to some other random dude |
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18:07 | jcamins | oleonard: there's a bug filed about that. |
18:07 | I think. | |
18:07 | I think you filed the bug, actually. | |
18:08 | oleonard | Oh no my memory was re-set again. How much time did I lose? Is it still 2009? |
18:08 | drojf | heh |
18:08 | * chris_n | checks his card to be sure his name is not "random dude" |
18:08 | jcamins | Hehe. |
18:08 | I could be mistaken. | |
18:09 | oleonard | Maybe you're thinking of Bug 7550 jcamins? |
18:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7550 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, NEW , Self checkout should limit display of patron image to logged-in patron |
18:09 | oleonard | I should change that bug to be "self checkout should limit EVERYTHING to logged-in patron" |
18:10 | I guess the problem is that the self checkout user isn't strictly "logged in" | |
18:10 | * chris_n | hates it when his patrons decide to mess around and search opac under the self-checkout user |
18:10 | jcamins | Yes, that's what I was thinking of. |
18:11 | chris_n | a set of perms applicable to the self checkout user would probably not be a bad idea |
18:11 | then we could limit what pages could be accessed as well | |
18:11 | * oleonard | understands rangi's nefarious plan now... Hire wizzyrea, groom her to be RM, never have to be RM again |
18:11 | jcamins | oleonard: damn fine plan. Wish I'd thought of it. |
18:12 | gmcharlt | heh |
18:12 | cait | oleonard: all makes sense now... |
18:12 | * jcamins | scurries to groom someone else to be RM. |
18:13 | jcamins | Myshkin: "my first act as RM will be to demand that I be given the duck food EVERY SINGLE DAY." |
18:14 | dracoling | I LOVE the duck food. |
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18:14 | jcamins | Myshkin too. |
18:14 | gmcharlt | @later tell eythian send me the SSH key(s) you want to use for access to the pony^Wrepo as well as what you want the repo called, please |
18:14 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
18:14 | jcamins | Ah, and from on high comes his second commandment: "you will curry my majestic fur EVERY SINGLE HOUR!" |
18:15 | gmcharlt | who better than a cat to make sure no patch falls on the floor |
18:15 | drojf | and then follows "more focus on the online public access CATalog" |
18:15 | oleonard | Daily string and feature freezes during nap time |
18:15 | gmcharlt | species self interest and all that |
18:18 | drojf | i'm looking forward to the cookie-based version naming. "koha chocolate chip catnip cookie" |
18:18 | cait | jcamins: lol |
18:19 | drojf: lol too :) | |
18:19 | jcamins | drojf: very nice. |
18:19 | rangi | Morning |
18:19 | wahanui | well, Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
18:19 | cait | morning rangi :) |
18:19 | drojf | morning rangi |
18:22 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
18:22 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 24, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
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18:26 | rangi | Hmm busy bus today |
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18:44 | rangi | Bbiab |
18:44 | jcamins | That's a cute picture of Spud with the luggage- it's almost as tall as he is! |
18:44 | @later tell wizzyrea Great picture of Spud with the luggage. | |
18:44 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
18:55 | rangi | back |
18:55 | cait | wb |
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19:01 | rangi | now wizzyrea can get this poster |
19:01 | https://secure.flickr.com/phot[…]denee/3597100692/ | |
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19:17 | * oleonard | tests Bootstrap pages in Firefox 3.6 and finds nothing which doesn't work |
19:17 | cait | :) yay! |
19:17 | rangi | yay! |
19:17 | so its just the license eh | |
19:18 | oleonard | Just the license which is an issue with Koha? |
19:18 | rangi | yep |
19:20 | oleonard | Was someone going to try to get the license issue on the agenda at an IRC meeting? |
19:21 | rangi | i think so, post the elections |
19:23 | oleonard | mtj? |
19:23 | wahanui | mtj is DeM KraZy NutZ!! |
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19:55 | oleonard | Why does self-checkout check for the barcode "__KOHA_NEW_CIRC__" upon submission? Something left over from testing? |
19:55 | rangi | sure sounds like it to me |
19:55 | oleonard | if (barcode == "__KOHA_NEW_CIRC__") { // magic barcode |
19:55 | cait | it's magic!! |
19:56 | hm | |
19:56 | rangi | that needs a |
19:56 | cait | I have an idea, but I am not sure if I am totally off |
19:56 | rangi | && $debug or something |
19:56 | something set in sysprefs or config | |
19:56 | cait | what happens if you scan it? does it start another function? |
19:56 | oleonard | It's in JS rangi |
19:56 | rangi | eeewwww |
19:56 | cait | so if you had no mouse but only a barcode reader at the station with a piece of paper with special barcodes... |
19:57 | you could control it with that? | |
19:57 | cjh | heh barcode logic in js |
19:57 | * jcamins | thinks cait is probably right. |
19:58 | cjh | cait: that is a very cool idea |
19:58 | cait | oh happy you got what I wanted to say |
19:58 | oleonard | Yes I think cait is right, because submitting that value logs you out |
19:58 | cait | I was not sure if that explanation worked heh |
19:58 | rangi | ah right |
19:58 | i stand by my eeewww | |
19:58 | about it being js though | |
19:58 | cait | lol |
19:58 | cjh | heh, in 5 years from now, mice will be a thing of the past, everyone will use barcode scanners. |
19:58 | cait | cjh: lol |
19:59 | * cjh | already has 2 on his desk |
19:59 | oleonard | So perhaps "magic barcode" isn't the most descriptive comment possible |
19:59 | cait | actually you can do some cool things if oyu have one at your station anyway |
19:59 | it's faster sometimes when scanning if you don't have to put the scanner down to type or click something | |
19:59 | oleonard | This also makes me nervous: <input type="hidden" name="valid_session" value="1" /> |
20:00 | cait | eew |
20:00 | rangi | oh dear god |
20:00 | jcamins | Wow. |
20:00 | oleonard | Only I don't think it actually does anything |
20:00 | rangi | phew |
20:01 | cait | it's a trap? ;) |
20:01 | * oleonard | is trying to figure out how much of this javascript is simply junk, and it seems like a lot of it is |
20:02 | cjh | oleonard: oh wow |
20:02 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dddAi8FF3F4 |
20:02 | cait | lol |
20:03 | reiveune | bye |
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20:04 | oleonard | Ah well, more tomorrow I guess. Bye #koha. Have a good vacation cait |
20:04 | cait | thx oleonard :) |
20:04 | and have a good evening! | |
20:05 | vacation!!! free cookies for everyone! | |
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20:06 | drojf | vacation! don't forget to pack a nice piece of translation so you don't get bored ;) |
20:06 | cait | lol |
20:07 | I am already translating right now - and it IS boring | |
20:08 | drojf | mveron is following me closely |
20:09 | cait | i am working on pref |
20:09 | mveron | :-) |
20:09 | cait | are you 2 on staff? |
20:09 | * cait | thinks this should be translated by mveron: circulation.pref#AgeRestrictionMarker# E.g. enter target audience keyword(s) split by | (bar) FSK|PEGI|Age| (No white space near |). Be sure to map agerestriction in Koha to MARC mapping (e.g. 521$a). A MARC field value of FSK 12 or PEGI 12 would mean: Borrower must be 12 years old. Leave empty to not apply an age restriction. |
20:09 | * mveron | is on staff, around quotes (Zitate, nicht Notizen) |
20:09 | drojf | i'm done for tonight, will go to sleep soon. need a more day-ish rhythm |
20:09 | mveron | cait: Will do :-) |
20:10 | cait | drojf: vacation! :P |
20:10 | ok, I am being mean - have a good night :) | |
20:10 | mveron | drojf: Gute Nacht! |
20:10 | drojf | i expect the translation to be done when i come back :P |
20:12 | cait | pf |
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20:22 | mveron | cait: Can you have a look at circulation.pref#AgeRestrictionMarker# ...? I did my best :-) |
20:26 | kathryn | hi #koha :) especially you cait! |
20:26 | cait | hi kathryn! :) |
20:26 | kathryn | hows things? |
20:26 | cait | good :) |
20:27 | starting a long vacation tonight :) | |
20:27 | kathryn | awesome, go you, enjoy! |
20:28 | cait | thx :) hows things in the future? |
20:29 | kathryn | talking to quite a few libraries about Koha at the moment, find myself troubled deciding who needs talking to first sometimes! |
20:29 | (and very excited about Liz's arrival) | |
20:29 | cait | :) |
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21:27 | eythian | hi |
21:33 | @later tell wizzyrea here is something you should get when you're here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominio[…]ingtonian/641459/ | |
21:33 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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22:55 | jcamins | eythian: have you I bugged you about packaging 3.8.6 yet? |
22:56 | Ah, you did. | |
22:56 | Thanks. | |
22:58 | eythian++ | |
23:01 | eythian | jcamins: I did it last night even :) |
23:01 | going to do 3.6.10 today | |
23:01 | jcamins | Yay! |
23:01 | eythian++ | |
23:01 | cait | eythian++ :) |
23:01 | jcamins | cait: isn't it a bit late? |
23:02 | cait | it is |
23:02 | eythian | hi cait |
23:02 | cait | I am on vacation. |
23:03 | eythian | how is it so far? |
23:12 | cait | eythian: hm bit dark outside |
23:12 | but apart from that ok :) | |
23:12 | eythian | night time will do that, the sun is currently over here. |
23:12 | cait | ah? well, that explains |
23:13 | send it back in time, will you? | |
23:13 | eythian | no promises |
23:13 | cait | heh |
23:13 | eythian | you're going to miss your sourkraut when you're away! |
23:13 | cait | lol |
23:14 | it's better now since it's colder - closed windows maybe | |
23:14 | eythian | yeah, that'll do it I suppose |
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