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00:01 | mtompset | @wunder MNL |
00:01 | huginn | mtompset: The current temperature in Manila, Philippines is 27.0°C (7:00 AM PHT on September 24, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). |
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01:18 | Waylon-android | woot, at Lianz exhibitors halk, met Chris |
01:20 | mibbit not refreshing cant see anyone talking... | |
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01:21 | Waylon | now can... different browser |
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03:53 | Waylon_AFK | back |
03:54 | Waylon | Ah, got asked to leave. about 2... took this long to get back. |
03:54 | eythian | oh, you need to be registered to be in the exhibition area? |
03:54 | Waylon | yes eythian ... i think i need to get a bike sooner than later. |
03:54 | eythian | :) |
03:55 | Waylon | ah... Im thinking yes.. though this was after the signal for the next series of talks. |
03:55 | so... it was much easier to spot the non-conferencees. | |
03:55 | eythian | yeah, it would be |
03:56 | Waylon | which was .. probably just me... though i did spot a palmerston north library person.. and i don't think they had a delegate card either. |
03:56 | she left sorta about hte same time I did. | |
03:56 | she... drove past me. | |
03:57 | * Waylon | knows annoyance, hobbling along using a umbrella as walking stick, when people just drive on by, from same venue.. ah well. |
03:58 | eythian | probably assume that if you're walking it's because you're not going far. |
04:00 | Waylon | heh. guess so. so yea... koha.. with 3 catalyst, but many koha library people, hmm... however, there was two or three booths of siridynix based people. Palmerston north, national library, and siridynix booths. |
04:01 | This is funny, the thomsonreuters booth person, he helped his brother install koha for a library. hehe. fantastic. | |
04:05 | i understand the conference organizers position though. costs delegates $800 nzd (i think chris told me) for all 3 days... so to have someone just walk in and view the exhibition hall... something that isn't done. | |
04:07 | eythian | yeah, it's really expensive |
04:08 | well, the booths are about advertising chances for sponsors, so the more people that see it, the more exposure it gets. So I would have thought they'd be OK with people seeing that part of it. | |
04:09 | Waylon | had to get home anyway, the person did me a favor basically... took me ages to get back. Not something id do again with my workload. |
04:11 | woot.. got 2 flashdrives from a booth... 128 mb.... Wonder if i could get a bootable koha system on it. | |
04:12 | Text based bootable koha... | |
04:12 | eythian | probably |
04:12 | Waylon | maybe even a mini-Xorg prehaps. |
04:12 | eythian | it'd be tight |
04:13 | Waylon | yeah... im thinking, alot of the koha stuff can be squashfs'ed rather well. |
04:13 | being all text ... perl libs etc. | |
04:16 | * Waylon | idly wonders if koha would work on a rasberry pi. |
04:16 | * ibeardslee | recalls something mentioned about someone trying that |
04:16 | Waylon | $60 koha appliances for small libraries / demo box. |
04:17 | ibeardslee | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_a_Raspberry_Pi |
04:17 | Waylon | oh wow cool. |
04:19 | eythian | oh yeah, Mirko was doing that |
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04:26 | Waylon | jcamins_away, chris brought up the idea, of linked list of branches. Branches having children/parents. Say, a local branch could be part of a library, which in turn could be part of a bigger library, which in turn could be part of a consortium. of libraries. And each level being searchable across that level. |
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04:43 | eythian | the SirsiD HOLDS table has a field call "NO_HOLDS_BARRED" |
04:44 | cjh | heh |
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04:51 | Waylon | haha.. brilliant. |
04:51 | Them fighting words.. | |
05:08 | trying to think of an appropiate koha response. | |
05:10 | * eythian | starts to make packages |
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05:54 | eythian | oh bother. I don't have a copy of my non-expired secret key with which to sign the packages. |
05:55 | It'll have to wait until I can get it from home. | |
05:58 | curious that enigmail has been happily letting me sign things. | |
05:58 | evolution rather | |
06:01 | cait | evening eythian |
06:01 | eythian | hiya |
06:01 | cait | shouldn't you be home? :) |
06:01 | eythian | it's only 6pm :) |
06:04 | mtompset | You aren't home at 6pm? |
06:04 | eythian | not usually, no |
06:05 | mtompset | Sounds like you keep flex hours. ;) |
06:05 | eythian | @later tell rangi beware editing the debian changelogs, the version numbers have to be exact, and it's prone to causing conflicts |
06:05 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
06:06 | eythian | mtompset: yeah, I do. It's handy |
06:07 | mtompset | you aren't set up at home to remotely access the information you need? ;) |
06:08 | eythian | I can, but I'm not a fan of working from home. |
06:08 | I prefer to keep the spaces separate where I can. | |
06:09 | mtompset | No, I mean access your home information from work. |
06:09 | I understand wanting to keep spaces separate. | |
06:09 | eythian | oh, no. It's not something I really need to be able to do. |
06:09 | (in most cases) | |
06:09 | so I turn my home computer off when I leave. | |
06:11 | mtompset | Hmm... where did I see someone mentioning pending suggestions showing, but clicking it brings up nothing? |
06:12 | eythian | filter by branch |
06:12 | there's a bug for it somewhere | |
06:12 | Waylon | eepp |
06:12 | thats kinda one thing i really need. | |
06:12 | ohhh | |
06:12 | pending suggestions.. not catalog. | |
06:12 | nevermind. | |
06:12 | eythian | it works, it's just a bit broken |
06:13 | Bug 7300 <-- exhibit A | |
06:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , display suggestions from librarian library only by default |
06:13 | eythian | Bug 8274 <-- Exhibit B |
06:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8274 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , count of suggestions on main page wrong |
06:18 | Waylon | eythian, what do you think of chris's linked list branches idea? |
06:19 | eythian | I dunno, there is/was a branch groups feature. Can a list give us things that we couldn't get by using this? |
06:19 | but, I haven't thought about it really | |
06:21 | Waylon | well.. branch groups would only give one level of branch grouping? |
06:22 | or did it support nested groups? | |
06:22 | eythian | I doubt it had nesting |
06:23 | but what are the use cases for wanting multiple levels | |
06:23 | it sounds nice, but I can't see a use for it. | |
06:26 | Waylon | library consortiums |
06:26 | all using the same koha server install. | |
06:26 | a for instance... | |
06:27 | palmerston north public library now belongs to a consortium, with national library. | |
06:27 | and othes. | |
06:27 | palmerston north library has local branches. | |
06:27 | eythian | hmm, I see |
06:27 | possibly a good case, yeah | |
06:27 | Waylon | so thats central branch of the palmerston north library, of the national library consortium. |
06:28 | eythian | it'd be hard to do without overcomplicating an already complicated UI |
06:28 | Waylon | ah.. bad example thou.. they using dynix. |
06:28 | no holds barred... | |
06:28 | hmm... really must find a response. | |
06:31 | mtompset | Okay, those bug reports are a little helpful. |
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06:32 | mtompset | But I have two records in the suggestions table, and I know what they are, but I don't know why they aren't showing. |
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06:32 | marcelr | morning #koha |
06:32 | cait | morning marcelr |
06:32 | marcelr | :) |
06:32 | mtompset | Greetings, marcelr |
06:32 | marcelr | hi |
06:32 | wahanui | salut, marcelr |
06:32 | cait | :) |
06:33 | mtompset | Greetings, cait. :) |
06:33 | drojf | good morning #koha |
06:33 | cait | ok, have to get ready for work - will be back in a bit :) |
06:33 | mtompset | greetings, drojf |
06:33 | marcelr | hi drojf |
06:33 | cait | morning drojf :) |
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06:33 | drojf | hiya mtompset, marcelr and cait |
06:34 | eythian | mtompset: I've only seen it as the result of the filtering |
06:34 | mtompset | It says filter by clear. |
06:34 | Going to see if there are error log entries. | |
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06:35 | alex_a | hello world ! |
06:35 | drojf | hi alex_a |
06:35 | mtompset | bonjour tout le monde? ;) |
06:35 | (sorry if I mangled the french) | |
06:35 | alex_a | bonjour tout seul mtompset |
06:35 | mtompset | Greetings, alex_a |
06:36 | alex_a | mtompset: perfect ! |
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06:40 | reiveune | hello |
06:40 | wahanui | bonjour, reiveune |
06:40 | marcelr | hi reiveune |
06:41 | reiveune | salut marcelr :) |
06:41 | eythian | I really need to add some kind of cache to debian/update-control...it's soooo slow |
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06:53 | francharb | good morning #koha |
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06:53 | matts | hi ! |
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06:54 | julian_m | hello |
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06:56 | mveron | Good morning #koha |
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06:57 | * eythian | finally starts 3.8.5 building |
06:58 | eythian | some bad people out there who add dependencies without adding them to the appropriate file. |
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07:03 | gaetan_B | hello |
07:08 | mtompset | okay this is weird... I added a suggestion, all three suggestions list. I delete my suggestion that I added. All suggestions disappear. |
07:08 | mbalmer | hello |
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07:11 | eythian | mtompset: that is weird |
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07:13 | mveron | Hi mbalmer and hi everybody |
07:18 | mtompset | Okay, weirder... I go to home, click on the pending suggestions, and even my added one isn't listed anymore. |
07:18 | eythian | ah right, I could see that happening |
07:18 | OK, packages built, but no non-expired key to sign them with. So tomorrow I'll deploy them. | |
07:19 | mtompset | can you give a rough etd? |
07:19 | eythian | mtompset: tomorrow |
07:19 | wahanui | i guess tomorrow is pizza friday! or the day after today. |
07:19 | Waylon | tuesday? |
07:19 | wahanui | tuesday is good too |
07:19 | Waylon | hehe |
07:19 | eythian | probably before noon tomorrow. |
07:19 | NZST that is | |
07:20 | mtompset: if you want to help, bug 8806 ;) | |
07:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8806 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Debian packaging updates |
07:22 | mtompset | Okay, so that before 8am Manila time. ;) |
07:22 | eythian | most likely :) |
07:25 | drojf | eythian: how would one test that? apply patch, build package and try to install? |
07:26 | eythian | drojf: yeah |
07:26 | realistically, only the build should be able to fail | |
07:26 | anyway, time for me to go | |
07:27 | mtompset | By the way, I'm pretty sure a patched install_misc/debian.packages file should have the same lib contents as the control file, right? So perhaps you may wish to look at bug 8784 which I posted. |
07:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8784 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Missing files in debian.packages list |
07:27 | eythian | mtompset: have a look at debian/update-control (or debian/list-deps) |
07:27 | I think you are likely to be right | |
07:28 | also debian/control.in | |
07:28 | * eythian | makes like a tree and gets out of hair |
07:28 | drojf | seems like the sd card of my development pi is really broken, so much for testing anything :( |
07:29 | mtompset | broken? how? |
07:30 | BTW, debian/list-deps is a perl pre-cursor to my check_deps.sh script which is in the release-tools repository, eythian . | |
07:30 | drojf | i wanted to try building the 3.8.5 package yesterday and at some point it only said "segmentation fault". it does not boot anymore, i am able to open it in a card reader and copy stuff though so i don't really know what is going on |
07:30 | mtompset | Oh that sucks big time. |
07:31 | drojf | at least i got the git stuff copied |
07:31 | * mtompset | nods. |
07:31 | mtompset | Saves an hour or three there. :) |
07:34 | drojf | yes. but i somehow hoped it would just repair itself over night ;) |
07:36 | mtompset | I think there is some magically awesome bits that are required to boot, before grub. Perhaps those got toasted. |
07:36 | did you try another SD card yet? | |
07:37 | drojf | yes the pi is fine. glad i made a new card with fresh debian and koha stable before so i can still play with it ;) |
07:38 | changing the boot stuff is the first thing i will try | |
07:38 | mtj | hi #koha |
07:39 | drojf | hi mtj |
07:39 | mtj | halcyonCorsair, i spotted this recently -> http://www.slideshare.net/dago[…]presentationfinal |
07:40 | … all very relevant to koha | |
07:50 | Waylon | drojf, what about using squashfs on the pi? |
07:51 | * Waylon | has a few 128 mb flash sticks... wondering if i can fit a working bootable koha on it. |
07:51 | Waylon | for pc's |
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07:51 | Waylon | ah... |
07:52 | nevermind/ | |
07:52 | drojf joined #koha | |
07:52 | Waylon | ... |
07:52 | welcome back drojf ? | |
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08:09 | kf | hi #koha |
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08:39 | mtompset | Greetings, kf_afk. ;) |
08:39 | 128MB?! Are you mad?! | |
08:51 | mtj | Waylon, 128 is too small for Koha |
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09:14 | jcamins | 4:40 is much to early to get up. |
09:19 | Waylon | even squashfs'ed mtj, mtompset ? |
09:20 | mtompset | I did it this morning, then after a couple hours of productivity, I went back to sleep. :) |
09:21 | Oh, this is disk space, not memory... never mind, Waylon. | |
09:21 | a du -h on /usr/share/koha for 3.8.4 package install is 377M. | |
09:21 | I don't think you can get it to work on 128M, unless you have compression on the fly. | |
09:22 | mtj | … which is what squashfs is, afaik |
09:23 | Waylon | yes. |
09:23 | its what openwrt uses | |
09:23 | mtompset | I don't think on the fly compression is going to be that good. |
09:23 | Waylon | And i run openwrt on my asteriskbox/router. |
09:24 | mtompset | Because you'll also need the linux installed too. |
09:24 | Waylon | right. |
09:24 | well.. sounds like a challenge. | |
09:24 | ibeardslee | but if you mount parts of the tree on other systems then you can probably do it |
09:25 | Waylon | eh, I do have TWO 128mb flashdrives. |
09:25 | mtj | Waylon, if you are looking for a decent pet project for Koha… -> Carton support |
09:25 | Waylon | Carton support? |
09:25 | ibeardslee | .. network shares .. on other servers/PCs/workstations etc |
09:26 | mtj | bug 8807 |
09:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8807 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , add Carton support to Koha |
09:26 | mtompset | ibeardslee: I was thinking he was going to get everything contained on 128MB, OS and Koha and Data. |
09:26 | Waylon | yea. I am thinking that. |
09:27 | but i do have two 128 sticks, so will try that before pruning the default perl install. | |
09:27 | ibeardslee | that'd be interesting project |
09:28 | mtj | …why not a simple beowulf cluster of 128mb unionfs openwrt boxes, in the cloud? |
09:28 | Waylon | hahah |
09:28 | mtompset | If you find that you can fit the /usr/share/koha tree on 128MB, and the OS on 128, then it may be possible, if you mount your data elsewhere. |
09:28 | Waylon | .. why would koha need 128mb by itself? |
09:29 | mtompset | I told you that I did a du -h on /usr/share/koha. |
09:29 | I got 377M. | |
09:29 | Waylon | this including git? |
09:29 | mtompset | no. |
09:29 | Waylon | hmm.. |
09:30 | mtompset | If you can fit that tree on 128MB squashfs, then it may be possible over two sticks plus a data source. |
09:32 | Waylon | wow.... alot of javascript source. |
09:33 | prog/en/js .. 3.7M of javascript | |
09:33 | mtompset | oh right... I forgot languages. |
09:34 | Waylon | ccsr costs 1.5M |
09:34 | opac-tmpl/lib costs 5M | |
09:35 | installer alone plus mysql datafiles... 69 M | |
09:35 | mtompset | Okay... my mistake make that roughly 300MB without a second language. |
09:38 | Waylon | exclude t, exclude migration_tools/22_to_30 |
09:39 | exclude misc/translator/ | |
09:40 | kf_afk | you wan exclude the po files |
09:40 | mtj | include a zebra database |
09:40 | kf_afk | but if you want more languages you will have to readd them I think |
09:41 | mtompset | You can probably exclude the lib/yui files, but make sure your setting is to use it externally. |
09:41 | kf_afk | hmnot sure that's recommended it might cause problems |
09:41 | Waylon | ...... all the excludes end up with 41M left of usage |
09:42 | mtj | include 103mb of perl modules |
09:42 | mtompset | A 256 squashfs might be able to do it. ;) |
09:42 | But that's for only the installed koha parts. | |
09:42 | Waylon | yeah. |
09:43 | maybe even a 128 mb. its pushing it though. no room for graphical interface or anything. server on a stick. | |
09:43 | Sounds like a fun project though. | |
09:43 | mtompset | I think this is where you'd want to try DSL. |
09:44 | * Waylon | nods. |
09:44 | jcamins | Waylon: it seems to me there are more useful projects you could find. |
09:44 | mtompset | http://damnsmalllinux.org/ |
09:45 | mtj | jcamins++ |
09:46 | Waylon | yes jcamins, I know. Like my current port koha 3.0 mods to koha master, then backport... which.. ah.. isn't so fun. |
09:47 | oh btw, todays summary of karma. | |
09:48 | catalystit++ | |
09:48 | rangi++ | |
09:48 | siridynix? | |
09:48 | hrm. | |
09:48 | ah | |
09:48 | sirsidynix? | |
09:49 | hmm.. how to describe.. | |
09:50 | haha.. brilliant... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SirsiDynix "SirsiDynix claims to be a global leader in providing "technology solutions" to libraries" someone put "claims" in there. | |
09:52 | mtj | aah, so thats where LL pinched their 'global leader' blurb from |
09:53 | Waylon | huh? |
09:53 | LL sabotaged sirsidynix wiki entry? | |
09:55 | mtj | no, LL had a similar 'global leader in bla bla…' blurb on their website |
09:55 | Waylon | ahh |
09:56 | oooo | |
09:56 | a user named "Mean as custard" changed IS to Claims to be. | |
09:56 | haha | |
09:57 | calling it a "clarification" | |
09:58 | hmm. | |
09:58 | http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Sirs[…]ogies%2C_Sep_2009 | |
10:00 | mtj | but seriously.. is Graphics::Magick.pm currently impossible to install ? |
10:01 | Waylon | hrm? think i installed the deb.. |
10:01 | mtompset | Under what OS? |
10:01 | mtj | its always been difficult, but now its no longer on CPAN?! |
10:01 | jcamins | mtj: It has serious issues, yes. |
10:01 | Waylon | debian squeeze |
10:01 | wahanui | debian squeeze is recommended for koha? |
10:01 | mtj | under *any* OS |
10:02 | Waylon | libgraphics-magick-perl |
10:02 | is installed | |
10:02 | mtompset | Actually, it's the reason we need to use the gd-xpm version. ;) |
10:03 | mtj | ah ok, i missed the package on debian |
10:03 | mtompset | bug 8784 |
10:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8784 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Missing files in debian.packages list |
10:04 | jcamins | mtompset: why on earth would we want to use the xpm version? |
10:05 | mtj | so, perlmagick.pm is now the offical way to access GM -> http://www.graphicsmagick.org/perl.html |
10:05 | … not graphicsmagick.pm ? | |
10:05 | mtompset | There's something about graphics-magick that triggered a swap from the noxpm version. |
10:05 | at least last time I looked at it. | |
10:06 | under ubuntu. | |
10:06 | jcamins | mtompset: yes, you had installed X. |
10:06 | Changing the dependency is not a good idea, though. | |
10:06 | Most of us don't want to install X on our servers. | |
10:06 | mtompset | I know that. |
10:07 | Just saying that pieces of it happen. | |
10:07 | mtj | … if you install it on a box with X |
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10:18 | kf_afk | chef-koha? :) |
10:19 | oh... i hoped it was about recipes | |
10:19 | jcamins | Hehe. |
10:19 | It is, just not food recipes. | |
10:19 | kf_afk | hmm |
10:19 | can you explain? | |
10:21 | jcamins | Chef uses "recipes" for configuring software automatically. |
10:21 | :) | |
10:21 | kf_afk | hm |
10:22 | mtompset | http://www.slideshare.net/dago[…]presentationfinal (mtj posted this earlier) |
10:23 | mtj | … now there is a worthy koha installation project, folks |
10:24 | mtompset | yes, but it requires familiarity with each of the pieces talked about. |
10:25 | mtj | mtompset, does not everything? |
10:25 | mtompset | sadly, yes. |
10:34 | jcamins | mtompset: BTW, regarding the Ubuntu installation document on the wiki, it instructs people to install the packages, and then pick up again at running Makefile.PL, which is a little confusing. |
10:35 | mtompset | Yes, I've gotten distracted. |
10:35 | I'll be cleaning that up... actually splitting it. | |
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10:49 | drojf | how would i move my git stuff to a different computer? just copy over the koha folder including the .git folder? |
10:51 | Barrc | morning all - does there exist a command line borrower import utility? I see plenty of request for one and RFCs but I can't seem to locate one! |
10:56 | Waylon | jcamins, regards to my multibranch system, does the syspref: multibranch disable/enable assigning multiple branches to a patron.: make sense? |
10:57 | mtj | Barrc, ask the catalyst-nz people - they have one, i am sure |
10:58 | jcamins | Waylon: that's not a good name for the syspref, but I can't think of a good one at the moment. |
10:58 | mtj | eythian, or rangi may know the url ^^ |
10:58 | Barrc | mtj: Thanks - will do. |
10:59 | Waylon | think i also need to include a syspref "Completely independant libraries" - Different branches are completely seperate, a user cannot search outside assigned branches. |
11:00 | makes sense? | |
11:00 | kf_afk | Waylon: that multibranch thing sounds like a lot of trouble |
11:00 | Waylon: there are system preferences to make koha choose circ and return and reserve rules by patron home library | |
11:00 | mtj | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]ads/import_branch |
11:01 | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]ads/import_branch | |
11:01 | Barrc, import borrowers from csv file ^^ | |
11:01 | Waylon | Yes, but it does not limit branches access to search results, its what the company i work for, uses. |
11:02 | turning branches into libraries basically. and if one has the branches, the ability to search across libraries. | |
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11:03 | Barrc | mtj: Excellent, thanks for that. I may need to modify it slightly as it doesn't seem to match/ignore existing users! Thanks! |
11:03 | kf_afk | Waylon: if the functionality is limited to searches, maybe have that reflected in the preference name |
11:04 | mtj | Barrc, … and rememeber ask on the lists and irc - and save yourself a bunch of xtra effort |
11:04 | Barrc | yeah, I was already spec'ing up the job to write from scratch - saves me a lot of time! |
11:05 | mtj | catalyst prolly have a better version of that old script by now, at least |
11:05 | jcamins | migration toolkit? |
11:06 | migration toolbox? | |
11:06 | migration toolbox is https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ | |
11:06 | migration toolkit is https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ | |
11:06 | That might be of use. | |
11:07 | mtj | aah, there you go :) |
11:07 | Waylon | kf_afk, hmm.... think it only affects searches. what other systems does a opac user use, across branches? |
11:07 | kf_afk | circulation? |
11:07 | wahanui | well, circulation is really much faster with that... But also display of biblios with many items...... |
11:07 | kf_afk | suggestion management maybe |
11:08 | Waylon | hmm.. we personally don't use circ, nor suggestions system. |
11:08 | kf_afk | yeah |
11:08 | I was worried that your development will have unwanted side effects from the description | |
11:08 | if you add the ability to have more than one home library for a patron - this will surely explode | |
11:08 | if you add a different table, it could work | |
11:08 | jcamins | kf_afk: it couldn't be a home library. |
11:08 | Waylon | ah, I use BorrowerExtendedAttributes |
11:08 | jcamins | It would have to be something like "affiliated library." |
11:09 | kf_afk | but I think it it's for search, mabe it shoudl not be branches but search properties defined in branchreleations and then a new field in the patron record for those. |
11:09 | jcamins: yep :) | |
11:10 | Barrc | jcamins: That's great - thanks. Seems to be all I need! |
11:11 | Waylon | kf_afk, whoa.. thats getting way complicated .. ah.... hmm. ill do syspref "Limit searches by available branches" - "Opac users can only search those branches that are available to them. This only affects searches." |
11:12 | kf_afk | Waylon: sorry :) |
11:12 | Waylon | sound okay? |
11:12 | kf_afk | only pointing out there is already a way to group libraries for search :) |
11:13 | so thought it could maybe work with this | |
11:13 | Waylon | ah? is there? |
11:13 | kf_afk | yes, youcan group branches into search properties |
11:13 | those will show up in the opac too | |
11:13 | Waylon | ah.. group branches.. but hmm... |
11:14 | what if the staff member creating the patron, wants to abitarily choose branches to limit them to? | |
11:14 | kf_afk | hm sounds like better do without the search group sthen |
11:15 | Waylon | yeah. and i think i got the language right in the new syspref description? |
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11:15 | kf_afk | I think available branches would make me a bit confused |
11:16 | what about | |
11:16 | limist/Don't limit searches to libraries (we avoid branches) configured in the patron record. | |
11:16 | Waylon | Well... available.. as in, if the entire koha install had branches A B C and D, but you were only given access to A and B, your available branches, are A and B |
11:16 | ahh. | |
11:16 | kf_afk | and maybe add OPAC in thee |
11:17 | and ignore the typos of course... | |
11:17 | Limit/Don't limit OPAC searches of a logged in patron... | |
11:17 | what does happen if the user is not logged in? | |
11:18 | Waylon | hmm.. this syspref would most likely be used by a logged-in only opac. |
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11:18 | Waylon | if not a secure opac.. hmm.... maybe a default patron record? |
11:19 | like "guest" or somesuch. | |
11:20 | kf_afk | hm |
11:20 | * Waylon | shrugs. "Did not think about that." |
11:20 | kf_afk | you could limit the functionality to private opacs maybe |
11:20 | just make all searchable if the opac is not hidden? | |
11:20 | Waylon | yes, it wouldn't make sense otherwise. |
11:20 | kf_afk | would be easier than using an anonymous patron maybe |
11:21 | Waylon | Limit/Don't limit OPAC searches of a logged in patron to libraries configured in the patron record, provided that the opac is configured for secure. |
11:22 | "the opac is configured for secure" sounds abit wrong? needs rewording? | |
11:25 | jcamins | "... if OpacPublic is disabled." |
11:26 | Waylon | yeah! hmm.. now for a short name. |
11:26 | for code purposes... eeek. | |
11:27 | branchsearchlimit? | |
11:28 | jcamins | Just make sure you are cooperating with SearchMyLibraryFirst. |
11:28 | Waylon | hmm? |
11:28 | which does? | |
11:29 | jcamins | I'm saying your code needs to. |
11:29 | Waylon | I mean, what does SearchMyLibraryFirst do? |
11:31 | branchlimitsearch (hmm?) doesn't change the order of results, just limits them .. like a "limit by" | |
11:32 | jcamins | It doesn't have anything to do with sorting results. |
11:33 | It limits searches to the logged-in user's library by default. | |
11:33 | * kf_afk | nods |
11:34 | kf_afk | Waylon: sorry - we are not trying to make this hard for you - but it has to integrate into existing featuers to make its way in |
11:34 | Waylon | right. |
11:36 | limits searches to the home library by default, but allows for the selection of other libraries if needed? | |
11:37 | jcamins | I believe so. |
11:37 | I don't entirely recall at this point. | |
11:39 | Waylon | hmm.. as one of the features of mandumah is a library selection page (via checkboxes) at login, which i probably won't submit to koha community (who would want that feature?), id probably not touch that mechanic anyway. |
11:40 | jcamins | Waylon: I am certain you will be touching the code involved. |
11:41 | Waylon | id just commit the syspref changes, the borrowerextendedattribute changes and the search code changes... the interface changes... most likely all mandumah specific. |
11:42 | jcamins | Waylon: the "search changes" will involve the exact same part of code that SearchMyLibraryFirst is involved in. |
11:44 | Waylon | wait... the language used in the syspref, it sounds like its exactly what I want? |
11:45 | Limit/Don't limit patrons' searches to the library they are registered at. | |
11:45 | jcamins | Waylon: except you're doing something with multiple branches. |
11:45 | Waylon | Yes. |
11:45 | jcamins | That's why I'm saying you want to make sure that your changes don't conflict with that. |
11:46 | Waylon | if SearchMyLibraryFirst is on, ignore multibranch? |
11:46 | since it takes security precidence? | |
11:46 | jcamins | Or make SearchMyLibraryFirst understand multibranch. |
11:48 | Waylon | hmm.. its used in only Auth and opac-user |
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11:51 | Waylon | wooo massive netburp |
11:52 | hmm.. its used in only Auth and opac-user, and inserts the branch limit into masthead.inc's opac search... | |
11:52 | kf_afk | oleonard++ |
11:53 | Waylon | did i miss something? |
11:53 | kf_afk | that woudl make sense |
11:53 | it changed the default setting of the masthead's opac search | |
11:54 | Waylon | it doesn't actually sanitise it, seems like one could add additional branches by adding limit_cgi themselves. |
11:54 | jcamins | I have *got* to stop doing that. |
11:55 | Waylon | doing what? |
11:55 | jcamins | I keep on going "oh no, where's my new feature?!?!?!?" and getting very frustrated. |
11:55 | Then I remember that I forgot to disable it. | |
11:55 | Waylon | hmm? |
11:55 | jcamins | *EN*able it |
11:55 | kf_afk | lol |
11:55 | jcamins | Fourth time today. |
11:55 | * kf_afk | hands jcamins a cookie and reassures him all his nice features are fine and alive |
11:55 | * Waylon | is keeping a bugzilla on his dev machine, for devel planning / notes.] |
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11:58 | Waylon | so yeah, seems like the limit isn't actually enforced in opac-search.pl |
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11:59 | Waylon | one could add multiple branches into multiple &limit's, and get more than their home branch. |
11:59 | jcamins | Waylon: hence "first" ;) |
12:03 | Waylon | unless OpacAddMastheadLibraryPulldown is turned on, in which case, other branches wouldn't appear... [% IF ( mylibraryfirst ) %] (in [% mylibraryfirst %] only)[% END %] is enacted.... but not actually enforced. |
12:03 | jcamins | Right, it's available only through the advanced search due to the way Apache handles environment variables. |
12:04 | * jcamins | gets ready to head into the city. |
12:04 | Waylon | hmm? |
12:07 | okay, time to stop work, relax then bed. | |
12:10 | kf_afk | sleep well |
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12:24 | jcamins_away | mtj: 36k lines? Surely there's a better way to do that? |
12:24 | mtj | hopefully.. yes! |
12:25 | jcamins_away | Maybe a "generate carton" script? |
12:25 | mtj | jcamins_away++ yeah, a very nice idea |
12:25 | jcamins_away | Updating that by hand looks not reasonable. |
12:26 | (and as RM presumptive for 3.12, I'd be the one doing it :P) | |
12:26 | mtj | im hoping to get some discussion about the tool, so i send an initial patch… for discussion :) |
12:27 | jcamins_away | wajasu likes it. |
12:27 | mtj | but yeah… that .lock file could be autogened, from a script, at install time |
12:28 | jcamins_away | That's the ticket! |
12:29 | Surely you didn't just write all that by hand. Just copy your history into a script, and attach that too. :) | |
12:33 | mtj | no, not written by hand - and yes, i'll attach the build steps too |
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13:05 | mtj | jcamins_away, install steps added to bug, ftw |
13:19 | jcamins | mtj++ |
13:24 | mtompset | number? |
13:24 | wahanui | number is right |
13:24 | mtompset | wahanui: forget number |
13:24 | wahanui | mtompset: I forgot number |
13:25 | * mtompset | waves bye. |
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13:29 | * Guest8029 | waves |
13:29 | * jcamins | waves back. |
13:29 | jcamins | I came across a recipe that I thought "ooh, wizzyrea would love this," but now I can't remember what it was. |
13:29 | wizzyrea | :) |
13:29 | it will come to you | |
13:30 | * druthb | waves to wizzyrea. |
13:30 | wizzyrea | sup peeps |
13:31 | oleonard | Hi wizz and jc |
13:32 | * jcamins | waves to oleonard. |
13:32 | nengard | I'm trying to document bug 7993 but I'm not sure how to add a subgroup .. I put some in the authorized value but they don't show when adding a report ? can someone who tested this (or who understands this) point me in the right direction? |
13:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , saved report with hierarchies |
13:33 | nengard | speaking of recipes ? I'm gonna try this later this week (once the ingredients arrive): http://www.skinnytaste.com/201[…]-oats-in-jar.html |
13:33 | YUM! | |
13:34 | mveron | oleonard++ (For signing off Bug 8810 tha fast! ) |
13:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8810 normal, P3, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Opac: Cart should display branchname instead of branchcode |
13:35 | * oleonard | likes an easy signoff to distract him from other work |
13:36 | nengard | :) |
13:41 | figured bug 7993 out .. now to figure out how to make that clear to people reading the manual | |
13:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , saved report with hierarchies |
13:41 | * oleonard | looks forward to learning how that works |
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13:52 | samuel | hi to all |
13:53 | could someone explain to me this message "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/*mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) " | |
13:53 | jcamins | samuel: it means MySQL is not running, most likely. |
13:54 | Or you have the path wrong. | |
13:54 | Probably the wrong path. | |
13:54 | I don't know what that "*" would be doing there. | |
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14:02 | drojf | in what path would i find the actual mysql data used by my koha installation? |
14:02 | jcamins | drojf: uh-oh |
14:02 | gmcharlt | drojf: /var/lib/mysql (most commonly) |
14:03 | jcamins | /var/lib/mysql/[database]/* + /var/lib/mysql/ibdata* |
14:03 | First has table definitions, second has data, I think. | |
14:03 | drojf | ah yes there we are. thanks a lot gmcharlt and jcamins |
14:04 | * drojf | is putting together bits and pieces of his development pi |
14:04 | jcamins | Easiest is to restore *all* MySQL databases at once when recovering from ibdata, I think. |
14:04 | gmcharlt | jcamins: (depends - if you have innodb_file_per_table set, /var/lib/mysql/database/* also has the data) |
14:05 | jcamins | gmcharlt: ah, true. |
14:05 | drojf | i'll try to just copy the whole /var folder over from the broken installation to the backup i restored i guess. |
14:07 | either it will explode or not ;) | |
14:07 | mveron | oleonard: If you like to get the score point on the dshboard you should switch status Bug 8810 to signed off :-) |
14:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8810 normal, P3, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Opac: Cart should display branchname instead of branchcode |
14:08 | * oleonard | forgets when git-bz is doing everything else for him |
14:08 | mveron | :-) |
14:08 | jcamins | oleonard: that's why I hacked git-bz to do it for me. |
14:08 | jcamins' git-bz? | |
14:08 | * drojf | considers stealing the point just for the fun of it :P |
14:09 | mveron | drojf: As I did wit one of your points a couple of weeks ago... |
14:09 | jcamins | jcamins' git-bz is https://github.com/jcamins/git-bz |
14:09 | oleonard | How does it work jcamins? |
14:09 | * mveron | should put his glasses... |
14:09 | drojf | mveron: exactly ;) |
14:10 | jcamins | oleonard: exactly the same as the regular one, except you uncomment the new status you want to set. |
14:10 | mveron | ddrojf: But I gave you the chance to get an other point back :-) |
14:10 | jcamins | The only problem is that if you uncomment an illegal status, it gets very grouchy and you have to repeat the command. |
14:11 | oleonard | "illegal?" |
14:11 | drojf | mveron: yes, also we did not know then that you would get the point for that :) |
14:11 | jcamins | oleonard: if you try to move from "Needs Signoff" to "Passed QA" or "Pushed to Master" to "Needs Signoff." |
14:11 | That sort of thing. | |
14:11 | oleonard | Clever. |
14:12 | nengard | uh oh! my favorite reports feature doesn't work anymore |
14:12 | bug 8811 | |
14:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8811 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , can't run report after saving |
14:14 | drojf | i guess i will have to limp to the library to renew my books before restoring my koha git. damn short loan period |
14:16 | jcamins | nengard: are you sure the link ever got into Koha? |
14:16 | I remember testing it, but never actually saw it outside my test branch. | |
14:16 | nengard | it's there in 3.8.4 |
14:17 | jcamins | Oh. |
14:17 | Huh. | |
14:17 | Guess this would be because I rarely create new reports. | |
14:18 | nengard | added an image from 3.8.4 |
14:18 | all I do is create reports :) | |
14:24 | kf_afk | nengard: do you have permission to run the reports? |
14:24 | nengard | i'm superlibrarian |
14:24 | kf_afk | I think creating and running are different |
14:24 | maybe try adding the perm for a test? | |
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14:25 | * oleonard | agrees that nengard is |
14:27 | oleonard | I don't even remember seeing that button before |
14:29 | wajasu | libsysguy: did you see my comment about using $ENV{'DBIC_DONT_VALIDATE_RELS'} = 1; to squelch the the DBIx validation warning? |
14:29 | oleonard | nengard: The link doesn't appear because [% id %] is not present in the template, and the button doesn't work because [% id %] isn't present in the template |
14:30 | the edit button won't work either for the same reason | |
14:30 | nengard | so it's a template bug? |
14:30 | can you fix it? if so I'll sign off immediately :) | |
14:30 | both button and link used to work | |
14:30 | and have been there for a while :) | |
14:30 | * oleonard | is checking |
14:32 | oleonard | nengard: Are you in master? |
14:32 | nengard | ues |
14:32 | or | |
14:32 | yes | |
14:35 | * oleonard | blames Bug 7993 |
14:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , saved report with hierarchies |
14:35 | nengard | oleonard yes, that's what I'm documenting |
14:35 | that's where i found the problem | |
14:36 | figured if it was a small template fix though it just needed a new bug report instead of messing with the bigger dev/feature | |
14:37 | oleonard | No, not a template bug as far as I can tell. Something changed which used to pass the report ID to the template after saving a new report (work with editing a report) |
14:38 | kf_afk | uhoh. |
14:38 | oleonard | Oh wait, maybe I spoke too soon |
14:42 | nengard | about which? |
14:46 | oleonard | Figured it out |
14:46 | The part of the script which passes the report name and id was summarily dropped. | |
14:46 | Was it considered superfluous? I don't know. | |
14:48 | No, it's bug introduced by changes to the script | |
14:48 | nengard | meh |
14:48 | * oleonard | fixes |
14:48 | nengard | oooo :)( |
14:48 | that was :) | |
14:48 | can't type today | |
14:53 | libsysguy | wajasu: sorry I was AFK |
14:53 | oleonard | patch sent |
14:53 | jcamins++ # for the git-bz tweak | |
14:53 | libsysguy | yeah I saw it, I was trying to decide how to proceed |
14:55 | wajasu: if that went in would it merit a sign-off? | |
14:55 | ;) | |
14:55 | jcamins | oleonard: I suppose I should also add a "take this bug" option to git-bz. |
14:56 | oleonard | Yes, and have it give my coffee a warm-up too |
14:59 | nengard | oleonard++ |
15:01 | libsysguy | anybody seen bug 8798 yet? |
15:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Needs Signoff , Add the use of DBIx::Class |
15:02 | libsysguy | it needs a sign-offer from a good friend :p |
15:02 | * jcamins | has played with it. |
15:02 | libsysguy | didn't you have some issues jcamins? |
15:02 | i mean other than the normal ones :p | |
15:03 | jcamins | libsysguy: I did, yes. |
15:03 | libsysguy | did you get them worked out? or are they still pending |
15:03 | * jcamins | hasn't decided yet what the proper response is. |
15:03 | * libsysguy | is concerned you're waiting to pounce with a fail flag :p |
15:04 | jcamins | lol |
15:04 | reiveune | bye |
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15:04 | libsysguy | he always does that |
15:05 | jcamins | I think we need to have some kind of buffer against CPANed DBIx::Class screwing things up, since that's not going to be an uncommon issue for anyone who decided to try using Solr. |
15:05 | kf_afk | jcamins: so are you pro or contra dbx:class is probably the question ;) |
15:06 | oh | |
15:06 | jcamins | kf_afk: pro DBIx::Class. |
15:06 | Very strongly. | |
15:06 | kf_afk | is it only on cpan? |
15:06 | jcamins | kf_afk: no, it's in packages. |
15:06 | The version in packages works great. | |
15:06 | The last version from CPAN works great. | |
15:06 | The version that was in CPAN when the Solr code was added to Koha does not work. | |
15:07 | libsysguy | so basically it works as long as you're not tinkering with solr |
15:08 | if you are, you're going to have to fix your packages | |
15:08 | jcamins | libsysguy: it works as long as you *weren't* tinkering with Solr. |
15:08 | kf_afk | ah |
15:08 | libsysguy | right |
15:08 | kf_afk | so in solr the version is hardcoded soewhere? |
15:08 | jcamins | You can play with it all you want now. |
15:08 | Nope. | |
15:08 | kf_afk | or it won't work with the newer? |
15:08 | libsysguy | thats what I meant, I just didn't say it well |
15:08 | wajasu | libsysguy: yes. i'd signoff |
15:08 | kf_afk | or what I am missing here? |
15:08 | jcamins | kf_afk: the problem is that developers who tried Solr right when it was added to Koha will encounter an error that won't be encountered by anyone else. |
15:08 | libsysguy | ok i think i have completed my bribe of wajasu :p |
15:09 | jk wajasyu | |
15:09 | wajasu** | |
15:09 | jcamins | kf_afk: so I'd like to find some way of warning people who may have installed DBIx::Class from CPAN while it was unstable that they need to just switch to packages. |
15:10 | Actually, no, it wasn't even DBIx::Class that was the problem. | |
15:10 | It was Scalar::Utils. | |
15:10 | I think. | |
15:10 | kf_afk | ok, still confused |
15:10 | wahanui | somebody said confused was "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?" |
15:10 | kf_afk | but I am sure you know what you are talking about :) |
15:13 | bye all :) | |
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15:14 | libsysguy | ok wajasu its updated |
15:14 | wajasu | ok. testing... |
15:14 | wahanui | i think testing is fun! or easier when you have a test plan. Hint hint. |
15:18 | oleonard | Nice try anyway wahanui |
15:19 | libsysguy | wahanui sounds like rangi's puppet :p |
15:19 | wahanui | libsysguy: huh? |
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15:30 | wajasu | libsysguy: in my debian VM, when i run perl Makefile.PL, at the end it says: Warning: prerequisite DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader 0.07033 not found. We have 0.07000. |
15:31 | i suppose i need to update DBIx | |
15:31 | libsysguy | probably |
15:31 | or we could just downgrade the install file | |
15:31 | I just inserted the version I had | |
15:31 | wajasu | would that just be apt-get update? |
15:32 | libsysguy | i would assume so |
15:32 | wajasu | give me time to get through that. |
15:33 | libsysguy | *assuming you have that package installed |
15:34 | * libsysguy | would like to note the best part of DBIx::Class is the export trace function |
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15:35 | nengard | jcamins you signed off on bug 7986 - can you tell me what the values should look like in that preferene? is it a comma separated list of fields? |
15:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7986 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Export issues |
15:35 | wajasu | it got a Test::DBIx::Class and Test::myslqd trait that can help auto create a fresh mysql instance/schema for tests. |
15:35 | jcamins | nengard: which preference? Doesn't it add two? |
15:35 | nengard | ExportRemoveFields |
15:35 | is where i'm starting | |
15:35 | wahanui | starting is, like, weird |
15:35 | jcamins | Yes, comma-separated. |
15:35 | As I recall. | |
15:35 | nengard | so 100a or 100$a |
15:35 | there is no indication on the bug reoprt or the preference | |
15:36 | jcamins | I think the former. I don't really recall, though. |
15:36 | It had an example when I tested it. | |
15:36 | nengard | hmmm |
15:36 | jcamins | So I just modified the example to remove other fields. |
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15:37 | nengard | you asked for an example in comment 2 but i'm not seeing one in a reply ? unless i'm missing it |
15:37 | jcamins | nengard: I did get the example, because I wasn't able to figure it out initially. |
15:37 | Probably via IRC. | |
15:37 | nengard | right |
15:37 | that's what I think | |
15:37 | jcamins | Let me see if I have that syspref still set. |
15:38 | I do not. | |
15:39 | nengard | hmmm |
15:39 | okay | |
15:39 | I'll reply on the bug | |
15:40 | jcamins | I think it was 100a, etc. |
15:40 | But, not at all sure. | |
15:40 | libsysguy | jcamins, wajasu I just tested updating column definitions with the update script while preserving edited relationships and it works like a charm |
15:40 | wajasu | sweet. |
15:49 | libsysguy: looking at what has been and may ever be installed on squeeze: https://launchpad.net/debian/+[…]publishinghistory | |
15:51 | the fact that you probably did a cpan install, will that burn us later 7000-1( squeeze) vs 7025-1(wheezy), vs 7003(cpan) with a catch-22? | |
15:52 | if folks develop by pulling from cpan, will that never get packaged for squeeze? | |
15:53 | jcamins | libsysguy: oh, you're not using the version from Debian? |
15:53 | libsysguy | when I did this install I had to go fetch from packages |
15:54 | this box *should* be free of all cpam | |
15:54 | wajasu | i suspect folks will be on squeeze for some time. OR would there be a wheezy requirement by the time this stuff rolls out? |
15:54 | * jcamins | had it work absolutely fine on the Debian version. |
15:55 | libsysguy | in fact I know I haven't run any cpan installs on this box, all my cpan work is on my catalyst box |
15:56 | wajasu | my test environment is official squeeze debian package pull (7000). that link above only shows 7000-1 for squeeze. how do you have 7033? |
15:58 | the test passes on my new fresh VM (with koha-perl-deps.pl reporting installed version (0.07000) and reqd version (0.07033) | |
15:58 | libsysguy | oh I know what happened |
15:59 | instead of doing an apt-cache search I did a cpan search online | |
15:59 | apt-cache show libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl — Version: 0.07000-1 | |
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16:00 | wajasu | so what is the correct solution? you dropping the version reqd? |
16:00 | libsysguy | yeah |
16:01 | wajasu | ok. i'll wait for the patch update. |
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16:01 | libsysguy | done |
16:01 | wajasu | ok |
16:05 | libsysguy: did you mean to obsolete the prior Added... ? | |
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16:06 | libsysguy | shoot, yes I did |
16:06 | I can do that in the ticket | |
16:07 | wajasu | or i can obsolete it when i upload the signoff patch. |
16:07 | libsysguy | its ok, I got it |
16:07 | sorry about that | |
16:07 | sometimes its easy to miss that commented out bit | |
16:08 | santy | hi all! I'm trying to install koha-latest on centos 6.3 i386. I am following centos 6.2 i386 guide available on koha's wiki. Right now I'm stuck. I get Can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC error when trying to perl Makefile.PL. Have searched, there seem to be various possible reasons or related dependencies (yaz, libyaz, libyaz-devel , and others) but none of them have worked yet. |
16:09 | jcamins | santy: you probably need to install the Perl libraries for Net::Z3950. |
16:10 | santy | jcamins: do you mean this: yum -y install libnet-z3950-zoom-perl? |
16:10 | jcamins | santy: that sounds reasonable. |
16:11 | santy | i get No package libnet-z3950-zoom-perl available |
16:12 | jcamins | santy: I haven't used CentOS and don't plan on trying it. So I can't comment on what packages you need. |
16:12 | What you need are the Perl modules for Net::Z3950::* | |
16:12 | You could probably try CPANing them. | |
16:12 | gaetan_B | bye |
16:12 | jcamins | cpan Net::Z3950::ZOOM |
16:12 | (that will pull all the required ones in) | |
16:13 | (well, it would on Debian, provided you installed the C dependencies) | |
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16:23 | martian523 | Good morning! |
16:23 | I have a question from last week | |
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16:24 | rambutan | @seen jcamins |
16:24 | huginn | rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 10 minutes and 18 seconds ago: <jcamins> (well, it would on Debian, provided you installed the C dependencies) |
16:24 | rambutan | ping jcamins |
16:25 | oleonard | rambutan: Why don't you just ask him the question rambutan? |
16:25 | rambutan | might could |
16:25 | * jcamins | waves |
16:29 | martian523 | I'm using 3.8.3, when trying to add an "Item Type" in Basic Parameters, according to the manual, there should be a field for renewable. However, this "Renewable" field is not there when i'm trying to add item. |
16:29 | and again, i should mention that i'm not IT | |
16:30 | oleonard | martian523: According to which manual? |
16:30 | martian523 | the koha manual |
16:30 | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]tml#itemtypeadmin | |
16:30 | oleonard | Which Koha manual? What's the link? |
16:31 | I believe that is an error martian523 | |
16:31 | martian523 | what is the error? |
16:31 | oleonard | You can set the number of renewals for an item type in Circulation and Fine rules |
16:32 | martian523 | ok...now my next question |
16:32 | oleonard | That line, "Enter the total number of renewals allowed for the item type in the 'Renewals' box" should be removed from the manual (attn: nengard ) |
16:32 | martian523 | i did the circulation and fine rules for all my other item types |
16:32 | nengard | k |
16:33 | martian523 | but last week, we came across an item that does not allow any renewals, i set that up, and it seems like it can still let me renew |
16:34 | oleonard | martian523: Could it be getting overridden by a more-specific rule somewhere? Library-specific or patron-specific or something like that? |
16:35 | martian523 | well, my original settings is patron specific, all types, renewal allowed 1 time |
16:35 | so that all types override that specific type? | |
16:36 | oleonard | Do you have a default rule set up? |
16:36 | all patrons/all types/all libraries? | |
16:38 | halcyonCorsair | mtj: I'll check it out |
16:38 | martian523 | patron specific/all types/library specific. ie. Alumni, all items, my library, renewals allowed (1) |
16:40 | so when I tried to set, all patrons/new book type/renewals allowed (0), it gets override? | |
16:40 | oleonard | martian523: I don't know if it's related to your issue, but it is recommended that you start with a default rule set up for all patrons/all types/all libraries. |
16:44 | halcyonCorsair | mtj: that might make life a fair bit easier |
16:53 | pastebot | "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "I need some git help - how do I push my changes - what is this trying to say?" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/195 |
16:55 | jcamins | nengard: you amended a commit to the manual, most likely. |
16:56 | nengard | I did not type --amend in any commands ? so how did I do that without knowing? |
16:56 | and how do I undo it? | |
16:56 | jcamins | Either that or you need to merge your new changes. |
16:56 | Or you're on the wrong branch. | |
16:56 | That last just occurred to me. | |
16:57 | I have no idea how you got a non-fastforward change, but I think probably you could merge the remote branch in, resolve any conflict, and continue on your merry way. | |
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17:05 | nengard | jcamins what's the command to merge? |
17:07 | jcamins | nengard: git merge. You'll have to experiment -- I'd recommend doing it in a new branch -- to figure out how exactly to resolve the problem. |
17:24 | Goodness. A married illustrator duo: Lois and Louis. | |
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17:35 | jcamins | Is jsicot saying that AuthHierarchy doesn't work for him anymore, or that it's like a zombie risen from the grave? |
17:36 | wizzyrea | the updatedatabase of death? |
17:37 | jcamins | wizzyrea: that's what I got from it, too. |
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18:03 | santy | hi, have been trying to cpan and compile Net::Z3950::ZOOM v 1.28,1.26,1.25, using both yaz 3.0.49-1.el6, and 4.2.33-2.el6, but keep getting t/15-scan.t and t/25-scan.t errors when making test. And there aren't any package with z3950 as part of their name for centos. Can anyone give me a hint? |
18:03 | jcamins | santy: it will have something to do with yaz, most likely. |
18:04 | santy | why? |
18:04 | jcamins | Because Net::Z3950::ZOOM uses yaz libraries. |
18:05 | And if it were missing something core, surely you'd have more errors. | |
18:05 | (i.e. dependency must exist, just not be working right) | |
18:06 | You could try skipping the tests, but I would like to point out again that I have no direct experience using CentOS. I am merely telling you what I *do* know, because you're going to have enough trouble without my sharing my non-CentOS knowledge. | |
18:07 | *not sharing | |
18:08 | santy | ok, you mean just make installing and praying? |
18:08 | jcamins | Right. |
18:08 | I'm not saying it's a good idea. | |
18:08 | I'm saying, maybe later on you'll encounter something that explains the error so you can go back and fix it. | |
18:08 | santy | so shall it be then |
18:10 | centos comes with yaz 3.0.49-1 package... should I go for it or use yaz 4.2 from fedora? wht would you do? | |
18:10 | nengard_lunch | someone hacked the wiki homepage - i fixed it and blocked them - but it looks like we're getting spammed with people signing up again: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ial:RecentChanges |
18:13 | jcamins | santy: I have yaz 4.0.11. |
18:14 | oleonard | nengard: I had a friend ask me for help with a sudden deluge of comment spam. I wonder if there's a new bot on the market that defeats CAPTCHAs which were previously useful? |
18:15 | jcamins | santy: https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug[…]lay.html?id=77861 <-- looks like someone else had this problem. |
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18:16 | jcamins | santy: it looks like Andi Sugandi eventually got Koha installed on CentOS 6.2. |
18:16 | Based on my e-mail archives, I think he had trouble with almost every single step. | |
18:17 | santy: e-mail says 4.2 and do a force install. | |
18:17 | santy | lol... thanks for the link... well, I tried version 1.28,1.26,1.25,1.24, they all yielded a lot of errors |
18:18 | ok, will keep yaz 4.2 and force the install | |
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18:29 | * jcamins | tried tweeting at him to ask if he had encountered a problem with AuthDisplayHierarchies. |
18:30 | jcamins | I'm not sure it worked, and not sure that I understood what he said anyway. |
18:30 | wizzyrea | that guy seems irritated. |
18:31 | maybe it's a cultural thing. | |
18:33 | jcamins | Or a language thing. |
18:34 | oleonard | I met him in Marseille, he's not a troll. |
18:37 | * oleonard | denies the allegation that the jquery calendar is always in US format |
18:38 | oleonard | ...but if there's an exception I'd like to know about it. |
18:38 | nengard | can somoene tell me how to checkout the manual3.8.x branch? |
18:38 | I deleted mine cause it was borked | |
18:38 | but don't have notes on how to pull it down again apparently | |
18:38 | jcamins | git checkout -b manual3.8.x origin/manual3.8.x? |
18:38 | Substituting the appropriate names in the appropriate places. | |
18:39 | It's no different from checkout out a branch when working on Koha. | |
18:39 | nengard | jcamins I've never done that :) |
18:39 | but thanks now I can do it on manual and Koha :) | |
18:39 | jcamins | nengard: you must, otherwise you wouldn't be able to test things. You probably just call it something else. |
18:40 | nengard | I create branches, but don't pull branches down |
18:40 | I create a new branch and then apply the patch to that branch | |
18:40 | not quite the same as what I'm doing here | |
18:41 | jcamins | Uhh, yes it is. |
18:42 | A branch is a branch is a branch. | |
18:42 | santy | jcamins: how essential is this... perl translate install zh-Hans-TW |
18:42 | jcamins | santy: uhhh... do you want Chinese? |
18:42 | If not, entirely unnecessary. | |
18:42 | santy | can I brute force install it, too? |
18:42 | ah ok | |
18:42 | great | |
18:42 | jcamins | You don't need to do that at all. |
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18:43 | santy | it's just on the howto with no explanation, so I figured it could be something important |
18:44 | jcamins | Nope. Apparently CentOS is popular in Chinese-speaking areas. :) |
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19:01 | mtj | nengard, theres a synced backup on github too, fyi -> https://github.com/Koha-Community/KohaDocs |
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19:15 | halcyonCorsair | mtj: i'm keen on any feedback you have on the chef-koha stuff in terms of specific use cases, etc |
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19:16 | mtj | halcyonCorsair, yep - will do |
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19:29 | rangi | On shitty WiFi can someone fix the wiki front page |
19:29 | jcamins | rangi: nengard said she did. |
19:29 | * rangi | is gone again |
19:29 | rangi | Ta |
19:30 | nengard | is it broken again? |
19:31 | jcamins | nengard: doesn't look like it, no. |
19:31 | nengard | whew |
19:31 | jcamins | Though I might be looking at a cached copy, I guess. |
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19:40 | mtj | i wonder if newer versions of mediawiki have better anti-spam systems |
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20:29 | * oleonard | whispers "Goodbye" to all the sleeping #kohaers |
20:29 | * jcamins | isn't sleeping. |
20:30 | is battling a serial. | |
20:30 | is losing. | |
20:30 | * mveron | just 'fixed' Bug 8796 |
20:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8796 major, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , patron cards not starting on designated card |
20:30 | * mbalmer | is listening to new zztop :P |
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20:53 | * libsysguy | whistles while integrating DBIx::Class::InflateColumn |
20:54 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #855 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #853 3 days 10 hr ago) |
20:56 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5356 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f81be962578437c16> / Bug 5356: Followup: remove useless code <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]96eb3c07a67f0cdf7> / Bug 5356: Followup: Add basket billing and delivery place on export pdf (layout3pages) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git; |
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21:09 | martian523 | Hi, as I was entering a barcode for my item, the barcode number became a skype number for some reason. is there a way to fix that? |
21:10 | jcamins | martian523: no, that's a problem with your browser. |
21:10 | martian523 | o really? |
21:11 | but just that particular number, all the others are fine | |
21:11 | rangi | yes, its your browser doing autocomplete |
21:11 | koha has utterly no idea what your skype numbers are:) | |
21:12 | in fact Koha hates skype for the proprietary annoying thing that it is | |
21:12 | (well it would if it was a human) | |
21:13 | libsysguy | anybody on used DBIx::Class? |
21:14 | I can't for the life of me figure out how to do an or instead of an and | |
21:14 | in a where clause* | |
21:18 | wajasu | you get to be the first :) keep notes for the wiki for other folks later if you can. |
21:19 | * wajasu | have to head out to get brake light switch so car will move out of park |
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21:31 | libsysguy | ah ha! i figured it out |
21:33 | * jcamins | decides to call it a day, since appparently his wife got home about six hours earlier than expected. |
21:34 | jcamins | Good night, #koha. |
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21:41 | pastebot | "libsysguy" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Where with OR" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/196 |
21:41 | libsysguy | there is how to do an or statement with DBIx::Class |
22:01 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #855: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/855/ |
22:01 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 5356: delivery place and billing place centralised in basket management | |
22:01 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 5356: Followup: Add basket billing and delivery place on export pdf (layout3pages) | |
22:01 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 5356: Followup: remove useless code | |
22:01 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 5356 follow-up DBRev number | |
22:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5356 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Shipping billing address improvements |
22:05 | mveron | Good night #koha |
22:05 | quit | |
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22:09 | wajasu | libsysguy: that was just what i was thinking ;) |
22:10 | eythian | hi |
22:11 | wajasu | hi |
22:11 | wahanui | hey, wajasu |
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22:12 | wajasu | ut oh |
22:12 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
22:13 | wajasu | mtompset: remember the koha_perl_deps.pl enhancement to generate a cpanfile? |
22:13 | mtompset | vaguely. |
22:14 | wajasu | did you have any outstanding opinion. i wonder if i should submit that as an enhancement? or did you see anything wrong with it. |
22:16 | maybe i'll just submit it and see what the fallout/ideas come about. | |
22:16 | mtompset | Well, if I recall, the only thing I thought was strange was the way you handled the flag. |
22:16 | wajasu | because i was dependent on the other flags? |
22:16 | mtompset | -m -u -a -i ... those are the core flags. |
22:17 | your tweak added -g? as a core flag, but it behaved otherwise. | |
22:18 | It's a good idea. I just didn't like the implementation. | |
22:18 | wajasu | i get you now. it should be an ooptional. ok. will revise. |
22:19 | mtompset | right... so -m -g and -i -g and -u -g and -a -g would all make sense but produce different output. |
22:20 | and I think -g doesn't make sense in combination with a -b, does it? | |
22:20 | wajasu | thats what i intended. i was trying to see if there is value in allowing those combos. instead of just (-a -g) |
22:21 | you are right -b -g is not useful. | |
22:21 | mtompset | So you might need to add some sanity check on the flags. |
22:21 | wajasu | ok. i'll do that then. |
22:21 | mtj | wajasu, i can think of some nice other uses for your tweak too |
22:22 | wajasu | as it is or do you want me to add more logic? |
22:22 | mtj | … generating a cpanfile based on your installed modules, not the required modules |
22:23 | wajasu | that's new functionality right? that would pretty much cover all bases. |
22:24 | mtj | ie: generate both on a deb-stable box, and diff the errors, etc |
22:24 | wajasu | gotcha. |
22:24 | mtj | afaik, the feature doesnt exist... yet |
22:26 | wajasu | i have been having succes with cpanm -L local . and then i do du -s -h local to see how many megabytes of usage. |
22:27 | mtj | ^^ its the nicest way yet, to spot those errors |
22:27 | wajasu | carton has and issue with matching ExtUtils::MakeMaker version, and i like the carton show and carton tree commands, but with the "issue" carton check seems to bail. |
22:28 | but just with cpanm its all worht it. | |
22:28 | mtj | yeah, i spotted some cartons glitches too, ( i didnt know if it was just me, or not) |
22:29 | cpanm and carton play pretty nice together (same author) | |
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22:31 | mtj | wajasu, hmm, i was going to QA a bug for you some days ago… what was it? |
22:32 | wajasu | somethin i signed off on for someone? |
22:34 | maybe 8702 for fridolyn | |
22:38 | or libsysguy's 8798 (i just signed off on that). or 8780 (thats easy, mtopset's) | |
22:39 | my main bug that i worked on was 8378, but that is pushed to master | |
22:39 | * wajasu | i've got to go help a friend replace a brake light switch. fun fun fun. |
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23:06 | * mtompset | sings, "Hi ho! Hi ho! Let's split the big, great wall." |
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23:14 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Hello everyone! Just popping on to ask a really hard question |
23:16 | Question is: How would one create a report that displayed the itype BOOK separated into Fiction and Non-Fiction? | |
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23:17 | jcamins_away | YoungPublicLibrarian: do you have that data in the record somewhere? |
23:17 | (note: I'm really not here) | |
23:17 | (you can tell by the way I'm not responding:P) | |
23:18 | YoungPublicLibrarian | lol, okay. Well, I'm not actually sure....is there a way I could look? |
23:18 | jcamins_away | I have no idea. You'd have to ask your catalogers if there is any indication. |
23:19 | There's a chance you have literary form set for fiction. | |
23:19 | But then again you might not. | |
23:19 | Depends on how strict your cataloging policies have been over the last fifty years. | |
23:19 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Hm...the call number differs for NF and F, but I don't know if that has anything to do with what I'm wanting to do... |
23:21 | jcamins_away | If that works for you, there's a report on the wiki that should do it. |
23:22 | Anyone around who could test something for me? | |
23:23 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Which report would that be? I looked, but I have been looking at the screen all day...may have missed it. lol |
23:23 | jcamins_away | YoungPublicLibrarian: something about items in a call number range. |
23:23 | mtj | jcamins_away, me perhaps? |
23:23 | jcamins_away | mtj: does the CCSR theme load YUI properly? |
23:24 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Ah, yes...no I remember. I tried that one but it gave so many results that my director went cross eyed... |
23:24 | jcamins_away | YoungPublicLibrarian: of course it did. |
23:24 | You're going to have scads. | |
23:24 | * jcamins_away | leaves again to eat dinner. |
23:24 | jcamins_away | mtj: could you highlight me with your answer so I see it later? |
23:25 | YoungPublicLibrarian | lol, yeah...so now I'm working on finding something simpler...thanks for the help though. |
23:25 | jcamins_away | YoungPublicLibrarian: you're going to have a ton of results. |
23:26 | mtj | jcamins_away, yep - it does :) |
23:26 | jcamins_away | mtj: it does load YUI properly? Good. |
23:27 | Hrm. | |
23:27 | Thanks. | |
23:27 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Thanks Jcamins, I'll keep working on it. |
23:27 | * jcamins_away | really leaves. |
23:29 | mtj | left side facets are wonky tho |
23:33 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #185: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/185/ |
23:33 | nengard: Bug 8721: Fixes minor typo in AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout | |
23:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8721 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , typo in AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout |
23:35 | jcamins_away | mtj: yeah, YUI isn't loading. |
23:35 | I could swear I patched that, too. | |
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23:38 | jcamins_away | Oh well. I'll repatch it. |
23:42 | * eythian | uploads 3.6 and 3.8 packages |
23:43 | eythian | mtompset: packages update with 17 minutes to spare :) |
23:43 | *updated | |
23:44 | mtompset | Hmmm... I see it. |
23:44 | But the package is kept back? | |
23:44 | eythian | yes |
23:45 | it has new dependencies, so won't upgrade as part of a normal upgrade | |
23:45 | you have to explicitly upgrade it, or do a dist-upgrade | |
23:45 | I will be emailing to that effect soon. | |
23:49 | melia joined #koha | |
23:52 | * mtompset | begins to upgrade his Q/A area. |
23:58 | groans. | |
23:58 | mtompset | I have to reindex now, don't I? |
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