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| 06:05 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 06:18 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:22 | mveron | Good morning #koha |
| 06:23 | mbalmer | Good morning #koha |
| 06:24 | mveron | Hi mbalmer :-) |
| 06:25 | magnuse | hiya mveron and mbalmer - you are synchronized today? ;-) |
| 06:25 | mveron | magnuse: Swiss precision... |
| 06:25 | ...and good morning! :-) | |
| 06:26 | magnuse | mveron: impressive! :-) |
| 06:26 | mveron | :-) |
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| 06:28 | marcelr | hi koha |
| 06:29 | mveron | Daag marcelr :-) Hoe is het ermee? |
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| 06:30 | alex_a | bonjour #koha ! |
| 06:30 | magnuse | kia ora marcelr and alex_a |
| 06:31 | mveron | Bonjour alex_a |
| 06:31 | magnuse | europe waking up... |
| 06:31 | mveron | ...to work in the cool morning time... |
| 06:32 | @wunder Basel | |
| 06:32 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 21.6°C (8:31 AM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:32 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:32 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:33 | * mveron | Ponders to travel to Norway... To hot here today... |
| 06:33 | marcelr | goedemorgen mveron |
| 06:34 | mveron | @wunder Amsterdam |
| 06:34 | huginn | mveron: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 06:34 | marcelr | :-) |
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| 06:37 | julian_m | hello |
| 06:38 | marcelr | hi julian_m |
| 06:38 | julian_m | hi marcelr |
| 06:38 | mveron | hi julian_m |
| 06:39 | julian_m | hello mveron |
| 06:42 | mveron | @wunder Marseiller |
| 06:43 | huginn | mveron: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 06:43 | mveron | @wunder Marseille |
| 06:43 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 25.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:43 | cait | @wunder konstanz |
| 06:43 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 20.6°C (8:40 AM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:43 | cait | I agree about it being too warm :( or it will be soon according to the weather report |
| 06:45 | mveron | Hi cait, at least you have the lake of Konstanz :-) |
| 06:45 | cait | doesn't help much at work |
| 06:45 | :) | |
| 06:46 | * mveron | would like to have a waterproof notebook with big display or under water beamer... |
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| 06:49 | cait | heh |
| 06:49 | asaurat | hi |
| 06:49 | wahanui | que tal, asaurat |
| 06:49 | cait | speaking of work, I should go there |
| 06:49 | hi asaurat :) | |
| 06:49 | brb | |
| 06:51 | mveron | Hi asaurat and wahanui :-) |
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| 06:57 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:03 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 07:03 | reiveune | hi magnuse :) |
| 07:06 | mbalmer | allo marseille! |
| 07:12 | magnuse | rangi around? when should translations be done to make it into 3.8.4? |
| 07:13 | or maybe i should ask fredericd that... | |
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| 07:14 | sophie_m1 | hello #koha |
| 07:24 | rangi | magnuse: in the next day or 2 |
| 07:25 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]XsI8&feature=plcp | |
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| 07:37 | magnuse | rangi: yeah, that's what i thought |
| 07:37 | wb kf | |
| 07:37 | * kf | waves |
| 07:38 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:38 | rangi | hi kf |
| 07:38 | kf | good morning rangi, magnuse |
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| 07:57 | marcelr | hi kf |
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| 08:19 | gaetan_B | hello :) |
| 08:21 | kf | hi marcelr :) |
| 08:22 | marcelr | :) |
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| 08:37 | Waylon | Hello all! |
| 08:37 | kf | hi Waylon |
| 08:38 | Waylon | okay, i want to install 3.8.3 and upgrade a database from 3.0.0 ... what do i use/do? |
| 08:54 | kf | install |
| 08:55 | and load the databasedump | |
| 08:55 | run the script fromt he release notes... run the database update | |
| 08:55 | recreate any translations you might have had | |
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| 09:26 | saa | i am trying to configure koha 3.8.3 on livecd but cpan perl modules are not getting configureed especially Readonly::XS on ubuntu 10.4 LTS. it gives compilation error of DateTime. Is there any way out to solve this problem |
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| 09:41 | * eythian | is watching Larry Wall demonstrate Perl 6. I propose jcamins_away converts Koha to it. |
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| 10:16 | * magnuse | envies eythian a little |
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| 10:40 | kf | back :) |
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| 12:08 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
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| 12:09 | kf | hi #kohq |
| 12:09 | marcelr | hi jcamins |
| 12:10 | kf | hi jcamins |
| 12:13 | magnuse | kia ora jcamins |
| 12:13 | jcamins: eythian wants you to rewrite koha in perl6 ;-) | |
| 12:14 | kf | oh, was he here? |
| 12:15 | magnuse | yeah, he dropped by briefly |
| 12:15 | probably unreliable wifi | |
| 12:16 | jcamins | I saw that. |
| 12:32 | magnuse | jcamins: you up for it? ;-) |
| 12:34 | druthb | he'll have it done before lunch, magnuse. He's just like that. |
| 12:34 | magnuse | yay! ;-) |
| 12:37 | jcamins | lol |
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| 12:46 | magnuse | well, i actually i don't know enough about perl6 to know if it would be a good idea or not... |
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| 13:16 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 13:17 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:17 | wizzyrea | hi oleonard |
| 13:19 | druthb | hi, oleonard and wizzyrea! :D |
| 13:19 | * druthb | waves with both hands. |
| 13:19 | wizzyrea | heya1 |
| 13:19 | ! | |
| 13:20 | libsysguy | hey oleonard and wizzyrea I have a question about overdrive |
| 13:20 | wizzyrea | i may not know the answer to that, we gave up overdrive a year or so ago |
| 13:21 | libsysguy | ah |
| 13:21 | wizzyrea | oleonard might though |
| 13:21 | libsysguy | well I was wondering how returns work for kindles |
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| 13:21 | libsysguy | I had a friend tell me if you turned the wifi off before the return date you could keep the book as long as you want |
| 13:22 | but I wasn't sure if the system returned the item for circ or not | |
| 13:24 | wizzyrea | my thought is that it doesn't matter if the DRM works on the end user device |
| 13:24 | overdrive is going to expire that book | |
| 13:24 | but I don't know that for certain | |
| 13:25 | and what I mean is - even if the book getting "checked in" on the kindle doesn't work, I suspect that overdrive still makes it available to other patrons | |
| 13:25 | on the date due | |
| 13:25 | libsysguy | that is what I thought too |
| 13:25 | but I wasn't sure how the DRM worked | |
| 13:26 | wizzyrea | well I'm not sure either, and I don't have overdrive anymore |
| 13:28 | oleonard | Sorry, afk |
| 13:29 | libsysguy: What do you mean by "for circ" ? | |
| 13:29 | libsysguy | well to release to other patrons |
| 13:29 | oleonard | Oh right. |
| 13:29 | I'm not sure, because I don't see the circulation end of things much | |
| 13:31 | libsysguy | ahh ok |
| 13:31 | oleonard | Sounds like an experiment is required |
| 13:31 | libsysguy | it just seemed like a huge loophole for me |
| 13:31 | indeed | |
| 13:31 | * libsysguy | goes to apply for a job at houston public library :p |
| 13:33 | kf | ? |
| 13:33 | eythian | It's kinda cute seeing people using "books" as an example simple data model. |
| 13:34 | kf | hehe |
| 13:34 | the dbx class presentation? | |
| 13:34 | eythian | yeah |
| 13:34 | kf | I stalked you this morning and looked at your schedule - there were slides from last year :) |
| 13:34 | eythian | heh |
| 13:34 | kf | how is frankfurt? |
| 13:35 | it's entirely too warm at bsz today | |
| 13:35 | eythian | stinking hot, otherwise nice |
| 13:35 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 13:35 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.3°C (3:30 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:35 | eythian | @wunder frankfurt |
| 13:35 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Frankfurt, Germany is 33.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:35 | kf | eythian: everybody is asking about you - they probabyl think I pushed you into the lake or something over the weekend |
| 13:35 | eythian | haha |
| 13:35 | tell them it's OK, I'll be back on Thursday :) | |
| 13:36 | kf | I did... only not sure they believe me :) |
| 13:37 | eythian | DBIx::Class looks pretty good, I have to say |
| 13:38 | druthb | eythian: if a strange man in a kilt comes up and greets you, acting like he's known you forever....that's mst. I told him to look for you. |
| 13:38 | eythian | heh OK |
| 13:39 | druthb | mst is one of my favorite Perl folks--and he's the honcho for the DBIx::Class project. Nice guy, very quirky and excitable. |
| 13:39 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 13:39 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:39 | magnuse | there you go |
| 13:39 | druthb | @wunder 66046 |
| 13:39 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Near Lawrence High School, Lawrence, Kansas is 15.6°C (8:39 AM CDT on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:39 | druthb | ! |
| 13:40 | magnuse | yay |
| 13:40 | eythian | druthb: cool, i'll keep my eyes open |
| 13:41 | * magnuse | has met DBIx::Class briefly in the context of Catalyst, and it does seem interesting! |
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| 13:41 | eythian | it'd be nice to get rid of the SQL |
| 13:41 | time to change rooms | |
| 13:41 | druthb | He'll probably be on a crutch or cane; he recently had a fairly major hip surgery--fell on a canal tow-path, and *broke it*. So you're probably safe from being hugged and yanked off your feet, which is what he did the first time he met me. |
| 13:42 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 13:42 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #94: "<chris> the more i explain, the more ppl know, and the less i have to do in the future ... its purely selfish hehe" (added by kf at 08:45 AM, September 13, 2010) |
| 13:42 | gmcharlt | enlightened_self_interest++ |
| 13:42 | asaurat1 | haha, mst is awesome :D |
| 13:43 | asaurat | some of us met him in Strasbourg for a Perl convention, very interesting man! |
| 13:44 | druthb | That he is, asaurat. Surprisingly strong, for such a small, wiry man. I'm taller than he is, and weigh...uhm...somewhat over 110kg, but he jerked me off my feet like I was a child. Incredibly sweet guy. |
| 13:44 | asaurat | hehe |
| 13:45 | druthb | I've come to discover that a *lot* of his apparently-random wild-man behavior is calculated; he's a deep, deep thinker, and that makes him very disarming. |
| 13:46 | asaurat | really ? he looks so spontaneous |
| 13:46 | druthb | mhm. quite a lot of that is planned. |
| 13:47 | asaurat | scary :D |
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| 13:47 | druthb | it could be; that's quite a weapon. But you won't meet a nicer guy. He's quite enthused to hear about the Koha community. |
| 13:48 | asaurat | indeed, he was very interested in our workflow |
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| 13:49 | * druthb | gets out the duct tape. |
| 13:49 | asaurat | and so, someone here is meeting him soon ? |
| 13:49 | druthb | hopefully, eythian. :) |
| 13:49 | asaurat | nice :) |
| 13:49 | druthb | I met him at YAPC::NA in June, and we had a wonderful time. Talk nearly-daily since then. |
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| 13:56 | * kf | pokes eythian |
| 13:57 | * druthb | pokes kf |
| 13:58 | pokes magnuse and jcamins, too | |
| 13:58 | * magnuse | says "ouch" and wanders off in search of dinner |
| 13:59 | kf | druthb: now you scared him away! |
| 13:59 | * druthb | pouts |
| 14:03 | eythian_ joined #koha | |
| 14:03 | kf | I only wanted to check if he is alive |
| 14:03 | * druthb | pokes kf again. |
| 14:03 | druthb | :P |
| 14:03 | kf | I was just talking to you! |
| 14:03 | * druthb | is the pokey little puppy today. |
| 14:04 | pokes edveal. | |
| 14:04 | edveal | Yep... |
| 14:05 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 14:05 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 33.0°C (4:00 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:05 | * druthb | fans kf. |
| 14:05 | kf | now it's the same as in frankfurt |
| 14:05 | @wunder frankfurt | |
| 14:05 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Frankfurt / M-Flughafen, Germany is 32.0°C (4:00 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1019 hPa (Rising). |
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| 14:06 | oleonard | What was the pokey little puppy's comeuppance? No dessert, something like that? |
| 14:06 | kf | no dessert and going to bed early... |
| 14:06 | maybe fixing a koha bug or two | |
| 14:07 | druthb | Something like that. Since I rarely eat dessert anyway, that dun skeer me. Also, I've been going to bed early the last couple of nights. |
| 14:08 | * druthb | pokes oleonard |
| 14:08 | druthb | :P |
| 14:08 | is kinda silly-happy today. | |
| 14:08 | kf | oleonard has kids... he will know what to do |
| 14:09 | * oleonard | warns druthb that if any more poking happens she will be sent to the time-out chair |
| 14:09 | druthb | :P |
| 14:10 | oleonard | Yeah that's what my kids say too |
| 14:10 | druthb | sending me there, and making sure I arrive there, are two different problems. And I'm bigger than you are. |
| 14:11 | oleonard | That's what my son is going to be saying before I know it |
| 14:11 | druthb | mhm. |
| 14:12 | kf | oleonard: would ignring her help or is that to cause some damage we don't want? |
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| 14:13 | * kf | pokes eythian |
| 14:13 | druthb | it might make her go away again, kf. |
| 14:13 | kf | hmmm... |
| 14:13 | oleonard | Hm, well what we seem to have is a failure to model the correct behavior kf ;) |
| 14:13 | eythian | druthb: so I just bumped into mst |
| 14:13 | kf | oleonard: oups |
| 14:13 | druthb | :) yay! |
| 14:14 | kf | eythiandid he lift you? |
| 14:14 | eythian | no...? |
| 14:14 | druthb | Interesting character, isn't he? |
| 14:14 | eythian | yeah, also need to ask him about some dbix stuff later |
| 14:15 | oleonard | Are local cover images supposed to be working in the staff client search results? |
| 14:15 | * oleonard | doesn't see any |
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| 14:15 | jcamins | oleonard: no. |
| 14:16 | kf | computervisualistik und design |
| 14:16 | hm. | |
| 14:16 | eythian | wrongwindow.com? |
| 14:16 | kf | nope |
| 14:16 | only wondering about a weird german word :) | |
| 14:16 | gmcharlt | kf: is there any other kind? ;) |
| 14:17 | eythian | that'll keep you busy for a long time |
| 14:17 | kf | not sure really |
| 14:17 | * druthb | pokes gmcharlt |
| 14:17 | * gmcharlt | pokes druthb right back |
| 14:17 | oleonard | gmcharlt poked a girl? Scandalous! |
| 14:17 | * druthb | pounces on gmcharlt. |
| 14:20 | eythian | at this conf they're providing a large amount of free bottled water (and "apfel schorle") which is good. |
| 14:20 | kf | :) |
| 14:20 | eythian | although this country's obsession with sparking water is bizarre, it tastes terrible |
| 14:21 | asaurat | :D |
| 14:21 | * druthb | loves sparkling water! |
| 14:22 | eythian | sorry for your loss of tastebuds :) |
| 14:22 | asaurat | apfelschorle, warum nicht... aber weinschorle ????? |
| 14:22 | eythian | not convinced those are words |
| 14:23 | asaurat | Supercalifragilisticexpialidociouschorle |
| 14:24 | kf | lol |
| 14:24 | * druthb | suggests that eythian might find http://dict.leo.org/ende useful. |
| 14:24 | kf | beershorle = water with beer... hm. |
| 14:24 | * druthb | finds it handy when talking to kf, occasionally. |
| 14:24 | kf | which makes it sounds like my english is really bad... :P |
| 14:25 | eythian: fwiw - I don't like sparkling water | |
| 14:25 | druthb | nope. My German is really, really bad. |
| 14:25 | asaurat | beershorle ?? i hope noone did ever try this blasphemy, it would be even worse than weinschorle :p |
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| 14:25 | kf | asaurat: it's called radler sauer... |
| 14:25 | * asaurat | dies in a painful agony |
| 14:25 | kf | eythian: could you stop this jumping around? |
| 14:25 | we already have poking ruth... | |
| 14:25 | * druthb | pokes kf |
| 14:26 | kf | see |
| 14:26 | eythian_ | I think the wifi is a bit overloaded here |
| 14:26 | * kf | hands druthb icecream so she is occupied for a while |
| 14:26 | druthb | nom nom nom |
| 14:26 | kf | eythian_: but free drinks - you got lucky :) |
| 14:26 | eythian_ | also free ice blocks |
| 14:27 | asaurat | free drinks ? where ?? |
| 14:27 | eythian | asaurat: Frankfurt :) |
| 14:27 | * eythian | is at YAPC::EU |
| 14:28 | asaurat | ah, oh, yes, nice |
| 14:28 | * druthb | is peeking in on the proceedings on irc.perl.org/#yapc |
| 14:31 | * eythian | should prepare a lightening talk for one of the sessions maybe |
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| 14:33 | eythian | falling offline again probably |
| 14:33 | druthb | dooo eeeet, eythian. |
| 14:34 | eythian_ joined #koha | |
| 14:35 | * druthb | did a lightning talk about Koha at ::NA, and it was well received. |
| 14:35 | eythian joined #koha | |
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| 14:36 | * druthb | needs moar duct tape |
| 14:36 | eythian | I think this network doesn't hand over between access points |
| 14:37 | * kf | plunders the fridge in the kitchen and steals some more icecream there |
| 14:38 | eythian | @wunder frankfurt |
| 14:38 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Frankfurt, Germany is 32.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:38 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 14:38 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.6°C (4:35 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:38 | asaurat | @wunder Saint-Chely-d'Apcher |
| 14:39 | huginn | asaurat: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 14:39 | asaurat | ok, my new town is too hidden ;) |
| 14:39 | eythian | it's more than 32 in the lecture theatres. |
| 14:39 | asaurat | @wunder Mende |
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| 14:39 | huginn | asaurat: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 14:40 | kf | hotter here too - was saying 33 earlier |
| 14:47 | oleonard | Okay, so default sorting by call number really is broken. |
| 14:50 | kf | search faq? |
| 14:50 | wahanui | search faq is probably http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
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| 14:54 | kf | hm |
| 14:54 | what happend to our cronjob examples file? | |
| 14:54 | or am I only too overheated to find it? | |
| 14:54 | oleonard | misc/crojobs/crontab.example |
| 14:55 | kf | thank you - it's the heat :( |
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| 14:59 | tcohen | hi #koha |
| 15:04 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:13 | oleonard | Bug 8657 |
| 15:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8657 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Default sort by call number does not work |
| 15:16 | tcohen | anyone related to koha-translate here? |
| 15:16 | found a problem with the .po | |
| 15:17 | (parsing problem I guess) | |
| 15:17 | kf | tcohen: not sure I can help |
| 15:17 | but I can try | |
| 15:17 | tcohen | http://translate.koha-communit[…]html?unit=3553504 |
| 15:18 | intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/tools/letter.tt:84 | |
| 15:18 | kf | hm, that doesn't look right |
| 15:18 | tcohen | looks like the line was not parsed ok |
| 15:18 | kf | but it'smarked fuzzy |
| 15:18 | hm I think it's probably right | |
| 15:18 | tcohen | if you look at that file |
| 15:18 | kf | sometimes the programmakes werid suggestions, but it's marked fuzzy |
| 15:18 | do you have a link to the file? | |
| 15:20 | tcohen | mm, no |
| 15:20 | i just used my cloned git repo | |
| 15:20 | the thing is that the spanish translated line looks ok if you compare to the line in the file | |
| 15:21 | kf | tcohen: the line will not get translated currently |
| 15:21 | sometimes the parser doesn't get links right | |
| 15:21 | there are probably more strings for that line | |
| 15:21 | and I think enhancedmessagespreferenc is linked? | |
| 15:21 | tcohen | the line says: |
| 15:21 | <li>The <span class="link">EnhancedMessagingPreferences</span> is set to 'Allow'</li> | |
| 15:21 | the spanish translation for that line is ok | |
| 15:22 | kf | I think it's ok too for other langauges |
| 15:22 | sarch pootle for is set to 'Allow' | |
| 15:22 | tcohen | you mean it is stripped into several parts for translating them in parts instead of alltogether? |
| 15:23 | kf | http://translate.koha-communit[…]html?unit=3553501 |
| 15:23 | yep exactly | |
| 15:23 | that's why the translation is currently wrong | |
| 15:23 | I amnot saying that this is ideal or shoudl happen... but it can happen | |
| 15:23 | tcohen | I understand it kf, thanks |
| 15:24 | kf | I think getting the parser correct to catch every possible variabtion correctly is hard :( |
| 15:24 | hm and ignore all my typos, it's entirely too warm here | |
| 15:24 | tcohen | i hope you ignore mine :-d |
| 15:25 | kf | I think maybe someting changed in the template - like the pref getting linked |
| 15:26 | so thatwould explain the difference between old and new translation | |
| 15:26 | I am melting - bbl :) | |
| 15:26 | kf left #koha | |
| 15:29 | tcohen | kf, you're right |
| 15:29 | i'm having trouble finding that 'The ' string | |
| 15:29 | :-( | |
| 15:35 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
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| 16:25 | jcamins | lol |
| 16:25 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
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| 16:31 | libsysguy | every time I see the tweetbot I read it as Koha Ails |
| 16:31 | oleonard | Not Ko-Hails? |
| 16:36 | libsysguy | no not that one |
| 16:36 | but now I might | |
| 16:36 | thanks for that oleonard | |
| 16:40 | oleonard | :) |
| 16:49 | Should we not block deletion of subfields marked mandatory in batch item modification? | |
| 16:51 | jcamins | oleonard: we should. |
| 16:52 | oleonard | Although batch item modification doesn't let you pick what framework you're using.. That's a potential friction point |
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| 16:53 | mbalmer | hi #kohaistas |
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| 17:08 | jcamins | oleonard: is there an easy way to replace text with jQuery? |
| 17:09 | oleonard | Depends what you're doing |
| 17:09 | There's text(): http://api.jquery.com/text/ | |
| 17:09 | jcamins | oleonard: the part I'm having trouble with is replace() |
| 17:10 | I thought you used something like $('element').html($('element').html().replace(/text/, 'whatever')); | |
| 17:10 | I'm getting told that .html() doesn't have a replace method. | |
| 17:11 | Got it. | |
| 17:11 | Wrong number of parentheses. | |
| 17:11 | Never mind. | |
| 17:11 | False alarm. | |
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| 18:04 | mib_21en8s | anybody online |
| 18:04 | oleonard | Yes, do you have a question mib_21en8s ? |
| 18:05 | mib_21en8s | how to embed google page cover preview in koha |
| 18:05 | oleonard | mib_21en8s: Do you mean book cover images from Google Books? |
| 18:05 | mib_21en8s | yes |
| 18:06 | oleonard | Turn on the "GoogleJackets" system preference. |
| 18:07 | does that make sense mib_21en8s ? | |
| 18:08 | mib_21en8s | please specify where in preference |
| 18:09 | oleonard | Administration -> System Preferences -> Enhanced Content |
| 18:11 | mib_21en8s | i m grateful for ur help.. thanx |
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| 18:24 | cait | oleonard++ |
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| 19:28 | rangi | Morning |
| 19:30 | cait | morning rangi |
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| 19:34 | hankbank | I am not worthy |
| 19:35 | oleonard | It is not necessary to prostrate yourself upon entry |
| 19:35 | hankbank | :) |
| 19:36 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 19:37 | hankbank | It was either that or post a quote from shakespeare |
| 19:38 | jcamins | hankbank: which quote? |
| 19:38 | hankbank | “O wonder!How many goodly creatures are there here!How beauteous mankind is! O brave new worldThat has such people in't!” The Tempest Act 5, scene 1, 181–184 |
| 19:38 | * oleonard | would have accepted that |
| 19:39 | rangi | You should reply to my Tolkien quote with that |
| 19:39 | jcamins | That's a good quote. |
| 19:39 | hankbank | verily! forsooth...this is how I feel about this our shared endeavour |
| 19:42 | libsysguy | anybody have protips for storing an array of strings in the database? |
| 19:43 | should I just store them with a delimiter or perhaps use the ENUM function? | |
| 19:43 | rangi | I hate both ideas |
| 19:43 | libsysguy | me too :-/ |
| 19:43 | jcamins | What about normalizing the structure? |
| 19:43 | rangi | I'd use Perl to serialise them |
| 19:44 | And store that | |
| 19:44 | jcamins | Or you could do that. |
| 19:44 | But I'd want to be very sure that you really wanted to store an array and weren't trying to cheat and store multiple values in one field by storing an array. | |
| 19:44 | libsysguy | yeah that's probably what I should do, but my inner database junky wants to normalize the datastructure |
| 19:45 | rangi | Yep |
| 19:45 | libsysguy | well its for the calendar, after I found out the parse function was crap |
| 19:45 | jcamins | My inner "I don't want to debug your mess" voice wants to normalize the data structure as well. :P |
| 19:45 | libsysguy | and I need to store a list of days |
| 19:46 | then parse it to build a set of closed days | |
| 19:46 | since the format function croaks with spans of dates | |
| 19:46 | rangi | A serialized object makes sense to me |
| 19:47 | You end up with a nightmare of joins in that case if you store each date as a row | |
| 19:47 | libsysguy | yeah I suppose it does. I don't know of an effective way to normalize weekdays |
| 19:48 | this will introduce a new dep I think | |
| 19:48 | Storable* | |
| 19:49 | rangi | It's core I think |
| 19:49 | libsysguy | ahh |
| 19:49 | well that would be nice | |
| 19:49 | rangi | And the session uses it already |
| 19:49 | libsysguy | ah ok |
| 19:49 | jcamins | Hm, that's true about the joins. |
| 19:49 | libsysguy | in that case, onward and upward |
| 19:50 | yeah joins in an already stressed db could spell disaster | |
| 19:50 | rangi | Brb |
| 19:50 | libsysguy | ballocs this is going to take some time to re-arrange |
| 19:53 | ok second thought | |
| 19:53 | what if instead of serializing the data I just enter a column for each weekday | |
| 19:53 | err day of the week | |
| 19:54 | cait | sounds not too bad to me :) |
| 19:54 | but I am not the data structure expert here | |
| 19:54 | libsysguy | or I could take it a step further and create a week_days_closed table, that would only be one join |
| 19:55 | it would keep the data normal but would cost you a table | |
| 19:55 | cait | I dunno |
| 19:55 | :) | |
| 19:55 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 19:55 | * druthb | loves watching the hapless youth flailing. |
| 19:55 | cait | it was way too hot here today, I am still recovering from cooked brain |
| 19:55 | huh? | |
| 19:55 | libsysguy | druthb thats not funny :'( |
| 19:55 | hehe | |
| 19:56 | * jcamins | chuckles. |
| 19:56 | libsysguy | I just want to make the best decision so that somebody doesn't say about me what I am saying about the person who wrote the calendar now |
| 19:56 | druthb | aww... |
| 19:57 | rangi | back |
| 19:57 | libsysguy | rangi ^^ |
| 19:58 | * oleonard | regrets that some of the good ideas in Bug 5872 were abandoned |
| 19:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5872 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Enhancements to circulation (see comment 23 for details) |
| 19:58 | cait | wb rangi |
| 19:58 | oleonard: it was just untestable :( | |
| 19:58 | rangi | what if your library is closed different days on different weeks |
| 19:58 | cait | rangi: now you getmean :) |
| 19:58 | jcamins | rangi: I thought that's what this feature was for? |
| 19:58 | oleonard | cait: Yeah, and it should have been simple to split it up if there had been the will to do so |
| 19:59 | libsysguy | you would have a separate event or an exception |
| 19:59 | either way you have to take the intersection of the 2 sets | |
| 20:00 | rangi | in that case a table is better |
| 20:00 | libsysguy | i think it would be better for searching too |
| 20:00 | rangi | as long as it stores times too |
| 20:00 | libsysguy | it could increase the efficiency of searching from the database |
| 20:01 | I want to see events for closures on mo/we/fr | |
| 20:01 | reports++ | |
| 20:01 | not that anybody cares that much about closed days | |
| 20:03 | * druthb | gets out her slingshot, puts a red Skittle in it, and takes aim at libsysguy |
| 20:03 | cait | libsysguy: she is being silly today |
| 20:04 | libsysguy: be glad yougot spared the poking phase | |
| 20:04 | libsysguy | its coming cait |
| 20:05 | * libsysguy | catching skittle in mid air with teeth |
| 20:05 | libsysguy | catches* |
| 20:05 | cait | heh |
| 20:05 | * druthb | pokes libsysguy |
| 20:05 | pokes cait, to thank her for the reminder | |
| 20:06 | libsysguy | cait run |
| 20:06 | druthb is on the loose | |
| 20:06 | cait | heh |
| 20:06 | * wizzyrea | readies the crate of trouts she keeps under her desk for just such occasions |
| 20:06 | druthb | The only thing that'd be scarier is if I had an op-star. |
| 20:07 | libsysguy | we'd all be kicked |
| 20:07 | druthb | if by "we" you mean, yourself, and the mouse in your pocket, then yes, libsysguy. |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | he has a mouse in his pocket? |
| 20:08 | druthb | he's saying "we", but he's the only one who'd get kicked, by me anyway, so he must. |
| 20:08 | cait | oh |
| 20:08 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 20:08 | cait | why would you kick him? |
| 20:08 | libsysguy | because I'm a bad apple |
| 20:08 | druthb | Exercise. |
| 20:08 | libsysguy | just like jcamins |
| 20:09 | jcamins | Hey, exercise is important! |
| 20:09 | druthb | see? |
| 20:10 | wahanui: libsysguy | |
| 20:10 | wahanui | libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck or koha's youngest developer |
| 20:10 | druthb | lulz |
| 20:10 | cait | what hottest and youngest? |
| 20:10 | druthb | wahanui: wizzyrea? |
| 20:10 | wahanui | I LIKE SCIENCE and I GEEK KOHA |
| 20:10 | cait | not fair |
| 20:10 | libsysguy | yup I get the youngest title now too, since pianohacker is gone |
| 20:10 | rangi | naw |
| 20:10 | i have the academy kids | |
| 20:10 | druthb | cait: have you seen pictures of libsysguy? |
| 20:10 | rangi | they beat you by ages |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | and chris hall |
| 20:11 | libsysguy | damn it rangi |
| 20:11 | ruine all my fun | |
| 20:11 | rangi | yep and cjh |
| 20:11 | oleonard | rangi is Koha's Doctor Xavier |
| 20:11 | cait | lol |
| 20:11 | * wizzyrea | likes this analogy |
| 20:11 | cait | but without a wheelchair I hope? |
| 20:11 | druthb | oooo... |
| 20:11 | libsysguy | rangi you're bald? |
| 20:11 | * druthb | wonders what role she will get. |
| 20:11 | * wizzyrea | snorts water |
| 20:12 | libsysguy | oh oh can we all have xmen names |
| 20:12 | rangi | if you guys keep breakng everything i soon will be |
| 20:12 | libsysguy | I want wolverine |
| 20:12 | cait | wizzyrea: no drink and reading koha chat! |
| 20:12 | when will you learn? :) | |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 20:12 | druthb | you're not hairy enough for that libsysguy. |
| 20:12 | bag is. | |
| 20:12 | libsysguy | :'( |
| 20:12 | cait | what about me? |
| 20:12 | * wizzyrea | dies |
| 20:12 | oleonard | There aren't enough nerdy, sedentary X-men to go around |
| 20:12 | * wizzyrea | looks up who all is in the xmen |
| 20:13 | libsysguy | fine, dibs on colossus |
| 20:13 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_(comics) | |
| 20:13 | druthb | Clearly thought up by some sexist *man*. X-Men, indeed....what about X-Women, too? |
| 20:13 | libsysguy | well there is storm, gene... |
| 20:14 | wizzyrea | if I were more psychokinetic I'd be jean grey |
| 20:14 | though Lilandra, Majestrix of the Shi'ar Empire has a nice ring to it | |
| 20:14 | * druthb | would love Shadowcat's powers. Tha'd be cool. |
| 20:15 | druthb | Majestrix? Definitely fits you, wizzyrea |
| 20:15 | libsysguy | and now my day is gone |
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| 20:15 | oleonard | Okay, so KohaCon13 is a combination Koha/X-Men cosplay conference? |
| 20:15 | druthb | +1 |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | umm, scratch majestrix - I would not look good in that outfig. |
| 20:15 | outfit* | |
| 20:15 | libsysguy | sees a spandex shortage in the future |
| 20:16 | druthb | hush, you. |
| 20:16 | rangi | speaking of kohacon13 |
| 20:16 | wizzyrea | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilandra O.o |
| 20:16 | rangi | i cant make the meeting, i deputise you all to make sure it doesnt go off the rails in some mental fashion |
| 20:16 | and we end up with booths or something | |
| 20:16 | wizzyrea | booths? |
| 20:16 | rangi | (its on at 3am nz time) |
| 20:16 | wizzyrea | you mean like an expo |
| 20:16 | or something | |
| 20:16 | rangi | wizzyrea: i dunno thats the worst thing i could think of |
| 20:16 | druthb | wizzy, you'd look...erm...majestic in that, but it looks hot and uncomfortable. |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | iunno. |
| 20:17 | oh druthb | |
| 20:17 | there's a "pixie" | |
| 20:17 | druthb | ! |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixie_(X-Men) |
| 20:17 | druthb | Ah'm there! |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Frost here we go - an urbane mutant telepath with a well-noted dry wit |
| 20:18 | druthb | Love the outfit, too. |
| 20:18 | libsysguy | https://www.google.com/search?[…]tand+col&gs_l=img.3.0.0.2096.3053.4.3856.4.3.0.1.1.0.81.230.3.3.0...0.0...1c.LZAvmuQQMXU&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=1778fb004874edcf&biw=1412&bih=1008 |
| 20:18 | druthb | ahem! |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | yea, I can see that. |
| 20:18 | * druthb | points the youth at various url shorteners |
| 20:19 | oleonard | gesundheit, libsysguy |
| 20:19 | libsysguy | I blame google search |
| 20:19 | why do they need so many variables | |
| 20:20 | oleonard | Oh, there's a mutant "with the ability to easily understand any language, whether verbal or written." I wonder if that extends to programming languages? |
| 20:21 | wizzyrea | let's just say it does |
| 20:21 | druthb | wizzyrea says it is so. |
| 20:21 | rangi | 64 bugs in need sign off, i bet we can get that below 50 by the end of the week if each person does 2 |
| 20:22 | druthb | So let it be written; so let it be done. |
| 20:22 | cait | heh |
| 20:22 | I will try to continue on th z39.50 thing before going to sleep | |
| 20:22 | it would help if someone sends me chocolate cookies... | |
| 20:22 | oleonard | Sorry rangi we're pretty swamped with this whole X-men thing |
| 20:22 | rangi | hehe |
| 20:23 | druthb | http://porkiepuss.tumblr.com/image/16761223099 <--awesome cosplay of Pixie. I'm there. |
| 20:24 | how I'm gonna get that dagger on a plane, though...hm. | |
| 20:25 | cait | suitcase |
| 20:25 | rangi | libsysguy: bug 8656 |
| 20:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8656 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Koha::Calendar not loading both sets of special dates |
| 20:26 | cait | uhoh |
| 20:26 | rangi is handing out bugs :) | |
| 20:26 | wizzyrea | oleonard - an example of the jquery-ui tabs? |
| 20:26 | or anywhere there are tabs | |
| 20:26 | libsysguy | wizzyrea top search |
| 20:26 | wizzyrea | k ty |
| 20:26 | libsysguy | in 3.8 |
| 20:27 | rangi | wizzyrea: bug 8657 |
| 20:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8657 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Default sort by call number does not work |
| 20:27 | rangi | hehe |
| 20:27 | * wizzyrea | is currently working on bug 8644 |
| 20:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8644 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , jQueryUI CSS file should not contain customizations |
| 20:27 | rangi | ohh cool |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | ;) |
| 20:27 | but I"ll do that one next | |
| 20:28 | rangi | who has IE ? |
| 20:28 | * libsysguy | has a mac |
| 20:28 | oleonard | I have IE 9 |
| 20:28 | rangi | you get bug 8659 |
| 20:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8659 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Inactive funds in neworderempty not disabled in IE/Opera |
| 20:29 | libsysguy | man he had that one ready |
| 20:29 | cait | :) |
| 20:29 | libsysguy | gun slinger rangi |
| 20:29 | rangi | and now ive caught up on the bug mail |
| 20:29 | the rest of you are safe | |
| 20:30 | you may now return to your comic book discussions | |
| 20:30 | hehe | |
| 20:30 | libsysguy | I can't I'm too depressed now looking back at the old calendar code |
| 20:30 | the new stuff looks so much better | |
| 20:30 | lol | |
| 20:30 | cait | oh |
| 20:31 | libsysguy | its got that new code smell too |
| 20:31 | cait | marcelr failed my bug |
| 20:31 | rangi: you can hand me a new one | |
| 20:31 | oh wow | |
| 20:31 | that was loud thunder | |
| 20:31 | must have been very close | |
| 20:32 | @wunder konstanz | |
| 20:32 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 21.8°C (10:30 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:32 | rangi | cait: hard one or easy one? |
| 20:32 | cait | is there something in between? |
| 20:33 | rangi | bug 8378 |
| 20:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore |
| 20:34 | rangi | or bug 8637 |
| 20:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8637 critical, P1 - high, ---, christophe.croullebois, Needs Signoff , Lack of control on mandatory in orderreveive.tt |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | oleonard: on 8657, I can't seem to get the db update to go |
| 20:34 | druthb | @wunder 66046 |
| 20:34 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Near Lawrence High School, Lawrence, Kansas is 31.1°C (3:33 PM CDT on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 13%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1015 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:34 | rangi | i already signed off on that but it failed qa because of css stuff |
| 20:34 | * druthb | melts a lil |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | dewd, it is not that hot here |
| 20:34 | oleonard | wizzyrea: :( Do you get an error? |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | no, it just doesn't do it? |
| 20:35 | druthb | It's quite a bit hotter than that, in my office, wizzyrea...seems to be a focussing point for the sun's rays in here somehow. |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 20:35 | * wizzyrea | blames haarp |
| 20:35 | oleonard | wizzyrea: It won't do anything if your defaultSortField pref isn't set to call number |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | it has to be set before the patch is applied - I get it |
| 20:36 | * wizzyrea | rolls it back and tries again |
| 20:36 | oleonard | wizzyrea: The update is only there to catch installations where they have it set to an invalid value |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | gotya |
| 20:37 | and when you search, the drop down should say "call number" | |
| 20:37 | ? | |
| 20:38 | oleonard | Yes |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | hrmm |
| 20:38 | oleonard | Not a good sound. |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | I have the patch on, mine still says relevance |
| 20:38 | even though the prefs are set to call number | |
| 20:38 | * wizzyrea | clears the cache and what not |
| 20:39 | * cait | cheers wizzyrea on and looks at rangi's bug suggestions |
| 20:39 | rangi | i wonder if we can ask nengard to switch off the reposting of old videos, confuzzles people |
| 20:39 | * rangi | puts that on his to do list |
| 20:39 | * druthb | cheers wizzyrea too, then hits the scroll buffer to see what we're cheerin' about. |
| 20:41 | wizzyrea | yea sorry, oleonard I don't think that is working :/ |
| 20:41 | oleonard | Okay, fail that puppy |
| 20:46 | Gotta run. See you tomorrow #koha | |
| 20:46 | rangi | cya oleonard |
| 20:50 | cait | rangi: I will try and tackle the fine code |
| 20:50 | <fine> | |
| 20:50 | but have to configure my database first.. *sigh* | |
| 20:51 | rangi | :) |
| 20:54 | http://heimatseeker.tumblr.com[…]43228677/soup-hub | |
| 20:55 | wizzyrea | @later tell oleonard I found the problem I think - it looks like the default value of ascending isn't actually set - you have to switch it to another and then back to ascending, and then it works re: bug 8657 |
| 20:55 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:55 | rangi | ahh yes theres a bug for that wizzyrea |
| 20:56 | im pretty sure i signed it off | |
| 20:56 | * druthb | waves, and runs out. |
| 20:56 | * jcamins | agrees with rangi about the existence of the bug. |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | oh cool - so I should not worry about that problem and sign off on this part, because it does work once the sort order is set properly |
| 20:56 | ya? | |
| 20:57 | rangi | sounds good to me |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | okies |
| 20:57 | rangi | bug 8012 |
| 20:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8012 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Passed QA , defaultSortOrder and OPACdefaultSortOrder are set to "ascending" on install |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | @later tell oleonard well cool, looks like there's a separate bug for that problem which means *your* patch WORKS and I'll sign off :D |
| 20:57 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:58 | rangi | A little investigation showed that this value is actually initialized NULL--which you can't set in the interface--which shows "ascending." But the actual behavior of the sort is kinda screwy by that. To me, it makes sense to initialize the value to SOMETHING... |
| 20:58 | that ^^ | |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | ya, exactly |
| 20:58 | that is precisely what I observed | |
| 20:59 | jcamins | Wouldn't it be nice if sorting weren't so brittle? |
| 21:00 | rangi | someone should rewrite it |
| 21:00 | jcamins | Yeah, I agree. |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 21:03 | cait | I think it's maybe missing default values in sql/pref file? |
| 21:03 | rangi | it is, but 8012 fixes that cait |
| 21:03 | jcamins | cait: it is, but it also is a problem with the sorting. |
| 21:04 | cait | ah cool :) |
| 21:04 | and heya jcamins :) | |
| 21:04 | jcamins | With the fixed default, we just don't notice that the sorting implementation is brittle. |
| 21:04 | Unless we are me. | |
| 21:05 | In which case we curse it frequently. | |
| 21:10 | rangi | http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominio[…]m-hits-Wellington (was loud last night) |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea | oh yea, saw that - I guess there were also "freak" lightning storms in japan and taiwan |
| 21:12 | just crazy lightning | |
| 21:13 | unusual lightning. | |
| 21:14 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 21:14 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 21.0°C (11:00 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:14 | cait | at least it cooled down a bit :( the thunderstorm missed us by just a little bit |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | What is LR in accountlines? |
| 21:22 | rangi | hehe |
| 21:22 | curl -s http://animals.ivolo.me/ | |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea: Lost Returned | |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | ty - also, weird - I have an example where returning the item didn't take it off of someone's account |
| 21:24 | rangi | hmm there were some changes around that recently, im not sure if they were pushed or not though |
| 21:25 | cait | I think it's supposed to be a syspref |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | well this is 3.6.4 so it could just be buggy |
| 21:25 | yea, I think you're right | |
| 21:25 | cait | or somehing, not sure |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | but I don't think that stuff is in my version |
| 21:25 | cait | we are not using the lost workflow yet |
| 21:25 | yeah, it was a recent thing on bugzila | |
| 21:36 | wizzyrea | weird. I can't explain why that happened. |
| 21:36 | or didn't happen, as the case may be. | |
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| 21:37 | wizzyrea | the lost status was removed, ok. it was checked in, ok. but it didn't come off of the account - WEIRD. |
| 21:37 | cait | hm. |
| 21:37 | maybe somehting with the way it was retunred? | |
| 21:37 | rangi | hmm that is weird, it should have lodged a credit balancing at zero |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | yea, precisely ^^ |
| 21:37 | but… how could they return it that it would not trigger the process. | |
| 21:38 | * wizzyrea | tries all the check in boxes |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | now it just says "not checked out" - bc it is, in fact, not checked out |
| 21:40 | rangi | hehe |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | I wonder about checking it out to the patron again and checking it in |
| 21:40 | but... | |
| 21:40 | the simple solution to this is to just manually writeoff the $15 and lift her debarment manually. | |
| 21:40 | :P | |
| 21:41 | and chalk it up to a network error. | |
| 21:41 | or something | |
| 21:41 | sunspot | |
| 21:41 | oh, we did have sunspots today | |
| 21:41 | 3 M class ones, even. | |
| 21:41 | rangi | id try checking it out and in again |
| 21:41 | * wizzyrea | goes with suspots. |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 21:41 | yea, that usually is a cure all | |
| 21:43 | cait | sunspots :) |
| 21:43 | rangi | wahanui: excuse? |
| 21:43 | wahanui | rangi: Mouse has out-of-cheese-error |
| 21:44 | rangi | there you go |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | mmmm yes |
| 21:44 | wahanui: excuse? | |
| 21:44 | wahanui | wizzyrea: operation failed because: there is no message for this error (#1014) |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | KEKE |
| 21:45 | cait | excuse? |
| 21:45 | wahanui | cait: Redundant ACLs. |
| 21:45 | cait | excuse? |
| 21:45 | wahanui | cait: Our ISP is having {switching,routing,SMDS,frame relay} problems |
| 21:45 | cait | excuse? |
| 21:45 | wahanui | cait: Someone has messed up the kernel pointers |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | how do you add an excuse? |
| 21:45 | cait | hmmm |
| 21:45 | * wizzyrea | wants to add sunspots |
| 21:45 | rangi | thats in there |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | oh good |
| 21:48 | cait | excuse? |
| 21:48 | wahanui | cait: Jupiter is aligned with Mars. |
| 21:48 | cait | ah... that's nice |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | excuse? |
| 21:49 | wahanui | wizzyrea: Internet outage |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | mhm. |
| 21:50 | * wizzyrea | likes this game |
| 21:51 | cait | eek |
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| 21:52 | cait | 8607 |
| 21:52 | bug 8607 | |
| 21:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8607 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , overdue_notices is broken |
| 21:56 | rangi | can you confirm that bug 8607 works, if so ill push it to 3.8.x for 3.8.4 |
| 21:57 | cait | working on it |
| 21:57 | I got the fines | |
| 21:57 | and I got messages created | |
| 21:57 | rangi | sweet |
| 21:58 | cait | so that's one step further from having the script explodeon me |
| 21:58 | but I stil have to check the contents of the messages | |
| 21:58 | rangi | it's a tiny patch (8607) |
| 21:58 | cait | yeah |
| 21:58 | i have to undo the fine patch and check again | |
| 21:59 | because that is not working :( | |
| 21:59 | for me at least | |
| 21:59 | it#s still not outputting the fine | |
| 21:59 | rangi | yeah it probably wont without 8607 |
| 21:59 | cait | and what's wirth |
| 21:59 | worse | |
| 21:59 | it's not giving me a list of items, but only one item whre it should be 2 | |
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| 21:59 | cait | yeah, you can't test the fine syntax without applying 8607 - I only have to check how broken it is without using th efine syntax changes |
| 22:00 | rangi | actually im pushing to 8607, there's no way it can work without that change |
| 22:00 | cait | makes sense |
| 22:00 | i still get errors with the patch running the script - but warnings | |
| 22:00 | rangi | good you spotted that before the release |
| 22:00 | cait | Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at overdue_notices.pl line 683 |
| 22:01 | yeah | |
| 22:01 | wajasu's patch doesn't work :( | |
| 22:01 | it breaks the way the notices are done | |
| 22:01 | rangi | ah well, fail qa, thats better than leaving it in needs signoff |
| 22:01 | cait | yeah I will |
| 22:01 | but the first patch works allright | |
| 22:01 | rangi | the upside is, we spotted 8607 doing this |
| 22:01 | cait | doesn't output fines |
| 22:01 | but all items show up in the notice | |
| 22:01 | rangi | sweet |
| 22:01 | cait | but... |
| 22:01 | the fix you did once... is undone | |
| 22:02 | rangi | hmm ? |
| 22:02 | cait | it should have given me a first notice and a second notice |
| 22:02 | 2 letters | |
| 22:02 | it doesn't | |
| 22:02 | rangi | ah yeah |
| 22:02 | cait | I hate when we break stuff that I tested and tested and tested |
| 22:03 | rangi | actually i think 7447 isnt in 3.8 |
| 22:03 | nope | |
| 22:03 | so yeah 3.8.x doesnt have that bug | |
| 22:03 | just master | |
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| 22:03 | rangi | so i dont need to push 8607 |
| 22:03 | cait | oh |
| 22:03 | that's good | |
| 22:03 | but it's still majorly broken :( | |
| 22:03 | rangi | in master? |
| 22:03 | cait | yeah |
| 22:04 | rangi | try 3.8.x |
| 22:04 | i bet its better than master | |
| 22:04 | cait | I will have to create a new database for that |
| 22:04 | too late today | |
| 22:04 | rangi | ahh not today |
| 22:04 | :) | |
| 22:04 | cait | will try before work |
| 22:04 | rangi | its not urgent |
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| 22:09 | cait | writing up my test case for wajasu now before failing |
| 22:16 | * cait | growls at bug 7447 |
| 22:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7447 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Allow to specify a date in overdue_notice.pl |
| 22:16 | cait | and closes lots of tabs |
| 22:16 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 22:16 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 21.0°C (12:00 AM CEST on August 21, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising). |
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| 22:25 | rangi | meeting time brb |
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