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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | mib_jtzy1e | ok |
| 00:01 | rangi | id have a look on the wiki |
| 00:01 | wiki? | |
| 00:01 | wahanui | wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org |
| 00:01 | rangi | and see if someone else has started :) |
| 00:01 | also | |
| 00:01 | bugs? | |
| 00:01 | wahanui | bugs is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org. Please fix any bugs you find. :) or reporting them is helpful, too. |
| 00:01 | mib_jtzy1e | how about for a built in digital repository |
| 00:02 | rangi | there has been some talk of that |
| 00:03 | Judit | good morning |
| 00:03 | rangi | however im off the opinion that there are already good floss digital repositories out there |
| 00:03 | so best to make it work well with them | |
| 00:03 | mib_jtzy1e | yes we have inspected Dspace |
| 00:04 | rangi | fedora/fez i like too |
| 00:04 | mib_jtzy1e | cool |
| 00:04 | i will look at that | |
| 00:04 | i am fairly new to the koha world and I am not much of a programmer, but what would suggest I do if I wanted to start learning to program for koha | |
| 00:04 | rangi | do you know much perl? |
| 00:05 | mib_jtzy1e | no |
| 00:05 | i learn languages fairly quickly when I use them | |
| 00:05 | rangi | id start off with the learning perl book, you'll rip through that fast |
| 00:06 | once you have the basic concepts .. then doing some unit tests is a good way to learn the code base | |
| 00:06 | mib_jtzy1e | awesome |
| 00:06 | thank you | |
| 00:29 | rangi | oh hey Judit :) |
| 00:29 | just realised i didnt say hi | |
| 00:30 | Judit | hi rangi how is winter treating you guys |
| 00:31 | rangi | pretty mild actually, rainy but not cold at all |
| 00:32 | no snow like last year :) | |
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| 01:05 | dcook | morning #koha |
| 01:06 | rangi | afternoon :) |
| 01:07 | Judit | haha |
| 01:07 | monring | |
| 01:07 | rangi | moonring to you too |
| 01:07 | dcook | Gotta love the diversity of timezones :D |
| 01:10 | Judit | this is just reminds me of this: http://www.choice.com.au/media[…]ice%20divide.aspx |
| 01:23 | dcook | I don't suppose anyone knows if it's possible to include a default value in the jQuery Datatables select list? |
| 01:24 | In other words, for "holds to pull", to have the user's branch be the default rather than "none" | |
| 01:24 | rangi | no idea sorry |
| 01:25 | but id expect yes | |
| 01:25 | dcook | No worries. I'm thinking so too. I just hope it doesn't involve too much code additions |
| 01:25 | too many * | |
| 01:25 | rangi | you'd need to set seomthing in the template, that the jquery can use to know the users branch of course |
| 01:25 | dcook | Mhm |
| 01:26 | I suppose it would be easy enough to do that after the table is drawn | |
| 01:26 | But it would look a little sloppy to have JS choosing the branch after | |
| 01:26 | Hmm | |
| 01:27 | * dcook | digs a bit more |
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| 02:39 | dcook | Partial success! |
| 02:50 | Total success! | |
| 03:46 | rangi | woot |
| 03:47 | http://paste.koha-community.org/58 | |
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| 04:08 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 04:24 | mtj | wow, that test is next-level |
| 04:24 | is it the first Test::MockModule test for koha, ever? | |
| 04:27 | the other thing i've just clicked to is... | |
| 04:27 | all our Koha db testing code could (or should?) be replaced with a DBD::Mock database? | |
| 04:28 | ... which removes the problem of people having to set up a 'test' db, with mysql user-perms and such | |
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| 04:29 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 04:29 | mtj | (which they usually never do, or do correctly)... and get a bunch of failed db tests |
| 04:29 | hi mtompset | |
| 04:31 | mtompset | Greetings, mtj |
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| 04:34 | mtompset | Cool! jcamins_away found a sources.list generator. Great! He'll be able to test to his heart's content once the script is polished up some more. :) |
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| 05:06 | rangi | mtj: thats the plan |
| 05:06 | im hoping to teach the 2 academy kids how to do that | |
| 05:10 | cait | rangi++ academy_kids++ |
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| 05:12 | rangi | hey bartjorgensen |
| 05:12 | http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ter/HTML_Report/? | |
| 05:13 | http://paste.koha-community.org/59 | |
| 05:17 | mtj | rangi: -> http://dash.kohaaloha.com .... work for you ? |
| 05:18 | cait | does for me |
| 05:19 | mtj | thanks cait - i had some 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' problems, that i've hopefully fixed |
| 05:19 | cait | not sure what that means, but I see a dashboard :) |
| 05:19 | are you planning to enhance it? | |
| 05:20 | mtj | yep, thats the plan :) |
| 05:20 | ... just setting up a dev instance | |
| 05:22 | hey bart - long time, no see | |
| 05:24 | and on that successfully note, i'm off.... | |
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| 05:25 | mtj | ciao cait - have a great day :) |
| 05:27 | cait | good night mtj :) |
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| 05:30 | rangi | hey its jorgia ! |
| 05:31 | jorgia | bartjorgensen, hows it going ? :) |
| 05:48 | mezwor | Hi all |
| 05:49 | 3what are the advantages and disadvatges of installing koha via Git or .tar file? | |
| 05:52 | 3any1 there? | |
| 05:53 | cait | it depends on what you want to do |
| 05:53 | will you be developing? | |
| 05:54 | do you want to customize the code you run in production (which is not strictly recommendable)? | |
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| 06:04 | mtompset | which install to use?\ |
| 06:04 | which install to use? | |
| 06:04 | wahanui | If you're developing, you should use git. If you're not developing on a deb-based system, you should use packages. If you're not developing on a different flavour of Linux, you should use the tarball. |
| 06:05 | mtompset | (packages = koha-common, etc.) |
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| 06:07 | pastebot | "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "testing paste" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/60 |
| 06:10 | mezwor | 3I want to use for production env |
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| 06:11 | mezwor | 3Cait: Yes no detail customization only changing the look and feel |
| 06:13 | alex_a | bonjour ! |
| 06:13 | cait | git is mostly good if you want to develop |
| 06:13 | pastebot | "jorgia" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "testing" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/61 |
| 06:13 | cait | mezwor: why are you not using the packages? it's a third option and easier than the tarball |
| 06:13 | mezwor | 3You guys are suggesting to use tarball for production env |
| 06:14 | cait | mezwor: suggesting you use the debian or ubuntu packages for Koha |
| 06:14 | packages? | |
| 06:14 | wahanui | packages is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 06:15 | mezwor | 3I use Debian mostly |
| 06:17 | 3cait: packages, does the link provide all the necessary packages ? | |
| 06:19 | cait | the link provides instrustions |
| 06:19 | instructions | |
| 06:19 | wahanui | instructions are coming right now to the wiki near you |
| 06:20 | mezwor | 3Ya I got it, it is really helpful |
| 06:20 | cait | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 06:21 | mezwor | 3Cait: Thanks I got it, I understand what you mean. |
| 06:22 | 3Any idea on how to make the OPAC online - I mean DNS , Domain issues | |
| 06:23 | 3And which file I have to edit to dos so ... | |
| 06:23 | 3And which file configuration I have to edit to do so ... | |
| 06:24 | 3Cait: any idea ... | |
| 06:24 | cait | mezwor: these are not really koha questions |
| 06:24 | koha is not different to other things you run on servers | |
| 06:25 | mezwor | 3I think there is a configuration issue to make OPAC available online so ... |
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| 06:26 | cait | you will need to look at apache |
| 06:27 | and your virtualhosts for koha | |
| 06:27 | mtompset | The instructions do contain some instructions on that. |
| 06:27 | * mtompset | just realized how recursively weird that sounded. |
| 06:28 | cait | heh |
| 06:28 | rangi | Well that was productive from an empty ubuntu. To working koha installs from packages then switching the config to use the git clone in less than 2 hours |
| 06:28 | mezwor | 3Ya I did it, both staff and OPAC interface works fine in my localhost now I want to make OPAC online |
| 06:28 | rangi | And we even wrote 3 new tests |
| 06:29 | cait | woot |
| 06:30 | mezwor: then the question is probably if your server is reachable from the outside | |
| 06:30 | mezwor | 3And I think there exists a configuration issue rlated to DNS and Domain name in koha, am I wrong? |
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| 06:30 | francharb | hi |
| 06:31 | rangi | They are coming back next week to do some more, but are planning to do some from home too |
| 06:31 | Hi francharb | |
| 06:32 | francharb | 0/ rangi |
| 06:33 | cait | rangi: sounds awesome |
| 06:34 | mezwor | 3Any help on what to do after successful installation of koha to make the OPAC live |
| 06:35 | 3Cait: if apache was not configured properly, could I have access for staff and opac interface locally? | |
| 06:35 | cait | it's about your server I think - I am not a system administrator, so someone else might be more able to help you here. but it's really not a koha specific problem I think. |
| 06:35 | no it looks like what you have works. but you may have to change something if you want to access it from outside of the computer koha is running on | |
| 06:36 | mezwor | 3How about the link you gave me earlier it says something about DNS |
| 06:36 | rangi | That's not koha that's dns |
| 06:37 | Ie a networking thing, not koha specific | |
| 06:37 | mezwor | 3ok , sorry I think I am stupid about it |
| 06:38 | rangi | Ie you need to be able to access your server from the network |
| 06:38 | If you can access locally koha is ok | |
| 06:39 | The rest is network/apache setup | |
| 06:39 | * rangi | hopes that's helpful |
| 06:39 | mezwor | 3rangi: can you help on that? |
| 06:39 | 3Just instructions | |
| 06:40 | rangi | No it will be specific to your set up |
| 06:40 | I would tell you the wrong things | |
| 06:40 | mezwor | 3means ? |
| 06:41 | 3If you can help on general issues I will cascade it ... please | |
| 06:41 | rangi | Means no I can't help with that |
| 06:41 | mezwor | 3ok |
| 06:41 | 3 10Q | |
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| 06:44 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:45 | rangi | Hmm is tweetbot dead? |
| 06:46 | Hi reiveune | |
| 06:47 | Also DBD::Mock rules | |
| 06:47 | cait | it looks not too hard to copy from the unit test you attached |
| 06:48 | hope to see more exampls :) | |
| 06:48 | brb | |
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| 06:53 | mtompset | That is sweet. It will help Koha be more clean regardless of backend used. |
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| 07:01 | julian_m | hello |
| 07:01 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 07:04 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:04 | dcook_away | allo gaetan_B :) |
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| 07:09 | asaurat | hello |
| 07:12 | mtompset | Greetings, julian_m gaetan_B asaurat and dcook_away |
| 07:12 | julian_m | hello mtompset |
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| 07:21 | dcook_away | hey mtompset |
| 07:21 | wahanui | i guess mtompset is a human being in the Philippines, and is having musical flashbacks. |
| 07:22 | mtompset | wahanui forget mtompset |
| 07:22 | wahanui | mtompset: I forgot mtompset |
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| 07:24 | mtompset | .msg wahanui mtompset? |
| 07:24 | Oops... :) | |
| 07:26 | There... much better. :) | |
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| 07:26 | mtompset | Greetings, kf. |
| 07:26 | * dcook_away | swears that he sees a new bug every time he looks at Koha these days... |
| 07:27 | kf | dcook_away: it's normal sometimes, don't worry, it will work out |
| 07:27 | dcook_away: but file them :) | |
| 07:27 | mtompset | They aren't bugs. They are unintentional features. ;) |
| 07:27 | dcook_away | lol |
| 07:27 | nice one, mtompset :p | |
| 07:28 | Good call, kf. It's 5:27pm but I want to fix it.. | |
| 07:28 | kf | I think documenting htem is really the first step to make things better |
| 07:28 | and to make people aware | |
| 07:29 | dcook_away | Hmm, true enough! |
| 07:29 | * dcook_away | patters away to bugzilla |
| 07:34 | kf | dcook++ :) |
| 07:35 | dcook_away | :) |
| 07:35 | Bug 8508. I think it might have to wait until tomorrow... | |
| 07:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8508 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Holds to Pull : jQuery datatable dropdown not displaying correctly when an item can be pulled from multiple libraries |
| 07:36 | kf | the filing or the fixing? |
| 07:37 | :) | |
| 07:39 | dcook_away | The fixing ;) |
| 07:40 | Actually, I'm still just learning jQuery, so it might take a little while. | |
| 07:48 | kf | dcook_away: also fixing the bugs you file is perfect - but you can also file stuff you don't intend to fix and you stumble upoon |
| 07:51 | dcook_away | I have done that on a couple of occasions :). In this case, I've been doing a lot of work on the Holds Pull List, so it makes sense to keep plugging away at it |
| 07:52 | mtompset | But, kf, if you leave it for someone else to do, it won't get done as fast. |
| 07:52 | Generally speaking. | |
| 07:53 | dcook_away | I'll just read up on how jquery datatables works tomorrow. I almost wonder if there are spaces rather than <br> tags that jquery might interpret them as separate pieces of data and thus break them into different strings to make different options |
| 07:53 | mtompset | Also, if you find it, that means the library group you are working with are probably aware of it and want it fixed yesterday. |
| 07:53 | kf | mtompset: true, but undocumented bugs are super evil - documentation is the first step always |
| 07:54 | dcook_away | I'm definitely in agreement with kf |
| 07:54 | kf | we also encourage libraries to file bugs |
| 07:54 | mtompset | Yes. |
| 07:54 | dcook_away | I have a tendency to sometimes hold off on the bug report until I already have a patch |
| 07:54 | But it makes sense just to report it and then patch it when you can, even if it is immediately | |
| 07:54 | mtompset | Bug file first... treat bugzilla like a TODO list. :) |
| 07:54 | kf | dcook_away: you can assign yourself to the bug and add a note you are working on it |
| 07:54 | dcook_away | Mmm, good one, kf |
| 07:54 | kf | sometimes you will miss a duplicate bug |
| 07:55 | so a bug report can prevent doubled up work | |
| 07:55 | and also someone might have an idea about the problem or a solution in mind | |
| 07:55 | mtompset | True. marcel caught a duplicate for me. :) |
| 07:56 | Certain was glad when I realized I didn't have to do anything because the attached patch on the other looked like it included the thing I caught. | |
| 07:58 | The nice thing about the bugzilla as a TODO list, someone MAY actually do part of it. :) | |
| 07:59 | kf | yep |
| 07:59 | you pick on more people*s minds than only your own :) | |
| 07:59 | and now I have a meeting :) | |
| 08:01 | dcook_away | Blah...now it looks like one of my enhancements may have caused a bug.. |
| 08:01 | kf_mtg | good that you caught it :) |
| 08:01 | mtompset | so fix it, no foul. :) |
| 08:02 | @wunder YVR | |
| 08:02 | huginn | mtompset: The current temperature in Marpole, Vancouver, British Columbia is 17.1°C (12:50 AM PDT on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:03 | dcook_away | Thanks, kf_mtg :) |
| 08:03 | mtompset | That's what I thought. Isn't it after 1AM where you are, dcook_away? |
| 08:03 | dcook_away | True, mtompset. Now if only I could figure it out.. |
| 08:03 | I'm in Sydney, Australia :p | |
| 08:03 | I don't go back to Vancouver for another 3 weeks | |
| 08:03 | mtompset | AH! Okay. |
| 08:04 | @wunder MNL | |
| 08:04 | huginn | mtompset: The current temperature in Manila, Philippines is 29.0°C (4:00 PM PHT on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:04 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:04 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:04 | mtompset | Why does boo call up Bodo? |
| 08:05 | dcook_away | Must be the code? |
| 08:05 | * dcook_away | has an idea about his enhancement come bug... |
| 08:05 | * mtompset | shrugs, "Probably an airport code, I guess." |
| 08:06 | dcook_away | Mhm |
| 08:06 | * dcook_away | dances a bit |
| 08:06 | dcook_away | I'm glad that no one can see that... |
| 08:07 | mtompset | Coding victory dance? |
| 08:07 | dcook_away | Yep |
| 08:07 | * mtompset | grins, "I like those moments too." |
| 08:07 | dcook_away | I've introduced some extra JS to use the user's branch as the default filter for the hold's pull list |
| 08:07 | So you don't see all the other branch's holds right away | |
| 08:08 | But I was forcing the filter before the other dropdowns were being populated | |
| 08:08 | tsk tsk | |
| 08:08 | So all the other dropdowns would be limited to options for the holds to pull for that library rather than all libraries | |
| 08:09 | Which isn't a problem until...you choose another library to filter and then you're hooped | |
| 08:09 | But yes, I like these moments :) | |
| 08:09 | magnuse | yeah, boo is the airport code for Bodø |
| 08:10 | mtompset | @wunder NAIA |
| 08:10 | huginn | mtompset: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 08:10 | dcook_away | @wunder YQR |
| 08:10 | huginn | dcook_away: The current temperature in Regina, Saskatchewan is 13.0°C (1:00 AM CST on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:11 | dcook_away | I've always liked that airport code. I assume the Q relates to the Queen... |
| 08:12 | mtompset | Seems like a reasonable assumption. |
| 08:13 | dcook_away | I might stay away from huginn. Around 15 years ago, I broke an IRC bot, so I've been wary of them ever since ;) |
| 08:14 | * dcook_away | should be doing homework but bug fixing is too attractive... |
| 08:23 | mtompset | What homework? |
| 08:26 | dcook_away | I'm doing a class on developing educational programs for adult learners. Just need to wrap up my last assignment and then I'm free for another month ;) |
| 08:26 | My project is actually about developing training programs for Koha :p | |
| 08:26 | mtompset | Sounds like you should be talking with nengard? |
| 08:27 | dcook_away | Well, the assignment is finished. I just need to include some reflective statements about the overall process at the start and end. |
| 08:27 | But I like the suggestion :) | |
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| 08:31 | * dcook_away | wonders if anyone has any insight into the "createSelect" javascript method...\ |
| 08:32 | mtompset | I haven't dived into the javascript world yet. Sorry. |
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| 08:42 | asaurat | is it normal that the "Expected" status of a serial disappears once another status has been selected ? when a librarian chooses something else by mistake, it's impossible to come back.. would that cause problems if I allowed the Expected status to be selected again? |
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| 08:49 | asaurat1 | I've been disconnected, if someone answered me please repeat =) |
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| 08:50 | asaurat1 | or I can just check the logs :p |
| 08:54 | magnuse | asaurat1: noone answered while you were away ;-( |
| 08:54 | dcook_away | Sorry, I don't have an answer off the top of my head and it doesn't look like anyone else wrote anything either |
| 08:55 | magnuse | to me it sounds like it would be a good thing to be able to correct mistakes, but i'm no expert on serials! |
| 08:55 | dcook_away | Actually, now that I think about it... |
| 08:56 | If they've made a mistake and they want it to say "Expected", they can just delete it and "generate next" again | |
| 08:56 | mtompset | Sadly, I know nothing. |
| 08:57 | dcook_away | I suppose the idea is that you don't want people to be able to change it to "Expected" manually, since "Expected" is changed programatically to "Late" |
| 08:57 | mtompset | jcamins? |
| 08:57 | wahanui | jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins |
| 08:58 | mtompset | I thought it had something in there related to serials or bibliography at some point in time. Oh well. |
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| 08:59 | mib_r3iam5 | No holds allowed in koha search.....how it can be resolved |
| 09:00 | any body help me??????????? | |
| 09:05 | mtompset | Sorry, I don't know enough to be able to help you. |
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| 09:06 | mib_r3iam5 | any one else? |
| 09:07 | cjh | there are a few settings that need to be checked, searching for "hold" in system preferences should get them |
| 09:07 | by default you cant place holds on items that are on shelf, something like AllowOnShelfHolds | |
| 09:09 | mib_r3iam5: does that help? | |
| 09:09 | oh also OPACItemHolds set to allow (so patrons can place holds in the OPAC) | |
| 09:10 | although that allows holds on specific items. | |
| 09:11 | mib_r3iam5: within the circulation tab in system preferences there is an entire "Holds Policy" section you may need to look at. | |
| 09:14 | francharb | I'm looking for a zebra expert. Anyone? |
| 09:14 | It's an easy question I think | |
| 09:14 | I want to use the Title-host index | |
| 09:15 | magnuse | francharb: try your nearest zoo? |
| 09:15 | francharb | \0/ |
| 09:15 | * magnuse | couldn't resist the temptation ;-) |
| 09:15 | cjh | heh |
| 09:15 | francharb | good answer |
| 09:15 | so... | |
| 09:15 | it's set up in the record.abs file | |
| 09:15 | I need to add it in the ccl.properties file | |
| 09:16 | I was thinking about doing this : Title-host 1=4 | |
| 09:16 | 4 is the attribute in bib1.att for title | |
| 09:16 | but it"s already used for the tifle index | |
| 09:16 | Title 1=4 | |
| 09:16 | si my question is | |
| 09:17 | can I use the same attribute for 2 differents index? | |
| 09:17 | I think no but I want to be sure | |
| 09:17 | :) | |
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| 09:30 | magnuse | francharb: all the other mappings seem to be 1:1 i think? |
| 09:30 | i think it would be better to change record.abs, to get the data into the Title index there, if that is what you want | |
| 09:36 | * dcook_away | glares at the holds to pull datatable |
| 09:36 | dcook_away | I finally figure out a way to break apart the "branch<br>branch" string and get it to output as separate options... |
| 09:37 | Then I realize that they're not distinct values | |
| 09:39 | francharb | ok magnuse, thank you |
| 09:51 | kf | marcelr++ |
| 09:54 | frido_s++ | |
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| 10:19 | * dcook_away | twitches a bit |
| 10:25 | kf | shouldn't you be asleep? :) |
| 10:28 | dcook_away | I should be doing homework :( |
| 10:29 | Instead of finding ways to fix the holds pull list | |
| 10:30 | kf | oh what are you studying? |
| 10:31 | dcook_away | I've been doing a course on planning programs for adult learners |
| 10:31 | I just need to put the final touches on my final assignment, but playing with javascript is a bit more interesting ;) | |
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| 10:34 | kf | dcook_away: I know... Koha is always more intersting than any study *sigh* |
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| 10:37 | dcook_away | Agreed |
| 10:37 | But then I have a month off from study :) | |
| 10:38 | When I head back, I need to do some required courses, an odd elective, and then courses on preservation and taxonomies for my MLIS :) | |
| 10:38 | After that, I'll have my degree and I'll come back to Oz to work on Koha all the time, muahhaa | |
| 10:38 | I'll be doing some work while I'm back in Canada, but the rate will definitely be slower and I won't be able to do these ridiculous nights where I procrastinate study in favour of work... | |
| 10:45 | * mtompset | grins and chants, "ko-ha! ko-ha! code! code! code! code!" |
| 10:45 | kf | dcook_away: the plan to work only on koha after that sounds good to me :) |
| 10:45 | dcook_away | :) |
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| 11:33 | kf | hi matts |
| 11:33 | matts | hi ! |
| 11:33 | kf | :) |
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| 11:43 | * dcook_away | wonders if jcamins ever sleeps |
| 11:43 | jcamins | dcook_away: it's 7:43. |
| 11:44 | dcook_away | True, but you're often up when it's considerably earlier/later as well :P |
| 11:44 | * kf | sends cait to sleep while kf is here :P |
| 11:44 | jcamins | dcook_away: this is true. |
| 11:44 | dcook_away | I was going to PM you about that kf :P |
| 11:45 | Mind you, the difference might only be 12 hours, so maybe that's not so bizarre... | |
| 11:45 | In either case, hi :) | |
| 11:46 | jcamins | clrh: good morning/afternoon. |
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| 11:51 | kf | dcook_away: pm me? |
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| 12:12 | mtompset | That was an interesting bump. |
| 12:12 | I'm glad you find a URL, jcamins. | |
| 12:12 | clrh | jcamins: hello |
| 12:12 | mtompset | I haven't had a chance to tweak the scripts, because today I had to get some backup scripts revised and working. |
| 12:13 | clrh | jcamins: I am going to a internal meeting/training see you later |
| 12:13 | jcamins | clrh: okay. Just wondering if you had an update on bug 7419. It can wait. :) |
| 12:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7419 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Add authority deduplication script |
| 12:15 | clrh | jcamins: ask julian_m for bug 7419 (after training) the script is gone in production so we can now proposed for a comunity version :) |
| 12:15 | jcamins | Thanks. :) |
| 12:17 | drojf | good day #koha |
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| 12:20 | dcook_away | au revoir, #koha |
| 12:20 | See you in...11 hours :p | |
| 12:21 | kf | ah, now I missed him |
| 12:21 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:23 | mtompset | Greetings, oleonard. |
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| 12:53 | jcamins | julian_m_: clrh instructed me to nudge you for the script for bug 7419. :) |
| 12:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7419 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Add authority deduplication script |
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| 13:06 | mtompset | So have you downloaded all the source.list files that you can think of, jcamins? ;) |
| 13:06 | jcamins | mtompset: I have four. |
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| 13:06 | jcamins | Squeeze, Wheezy, Lucid, and Precise. |
| 13:06 | mtompset | Why not Maverick? |
| 13:07 | We have an ubuntu .packages for it. | |
| 13:07 | jcamins | 'Cause I don't care? :P |
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| 13:08 | mtompset | I'm going to see what I can whip up in an hour. |
| 13:08 | I have to get to sleep on time tonight, as I have an appointment in the morning. | |
| 13:08 | jcamins | Good plan. :) |
| 13:09 | mtompset | Could you save me the effort and just email me the zip file of the four source.list files? ;) |
| 13:09 | jcamins | Sure. |
| 13:10 | mtj | mtompset: if its older that old-stable... we dont care (is the rule) |
| 13:10 | ie: its offically unsupported | |
| 13:10 | mtompset | I know, but the file exists. |
| 13:10 | mtj | deleted it, even |
| 13:11 | sorry.. delete it, even? | |
| 13:11 | mtompset | Whose the release manager for 3.6.8? |
| 13:11 | jcamins | RMaint. |
| 13:11 | mtompset | and 3.8.4? |
| 13:11 | jcamins | That's me. |
| 13:11 | kf | ^^ |
| 13:11 | jcamins | rangi is 3.8.x. |
| 13:11 | mtompset | I suppose if you two agree, the maverick file can be chucked. :) |
| 13:18 | drojf | paul_p__: my mail client seems to screw up the patch when sending, please use only my last email with a gzipped patch for german koct translation and ignore the one before, sorry |
| 13:19 | mtompset | irc logs? |
| 13:19 | wahanui | irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 13:19 | paul_p__ | drojf no problem, don't worry |
| 13:25 | drojf | wow that happens to every line in an attachment that starts with "From". that is annoying. either that is a "feature" of an extension i use or a bug in thunderbird/ iceweasel |
| 13:31 | oleonard | Proposed revision of the sandboxes interface: http://www.screencast.com/t/Kc886n24 |
| 13:31 | jcamins | Nice! |
| 13:31 | oleonard++ | |
| 13:34 | chris_n | oleonard++ |
| 13:34 | drojf | very nice indeed |
| 13:34 | oleonard++ | |
| 13:37 | kf | oleonard++ |
| 13:37 | very nice! | |
| 13:38 | oleonard | Thanks guys. I've submitted a patch directly to paul_p. |
| 13:41 | julian_m_ | jcamins, sorry for the late, what do you want to know about 7419? |
| 13:43 | jcamins | julian_m_: I understand you have a patch that requires signing off. :) |
| 13:43 | Well, and a follow-up adding my deduplication code. | |
| 13:44 | :) | |
| 13:45 | paul_p | oleonard++ |
| 13:45 | oleonard | Anyone know how to install rangi's dashboard application for local testing? |
| 13:46 | paul_p | oleonard = yes I do. I tried (although not finished yet). You have to get the bugzilla database & a config file. Will send you a mail rangi sent to me |
| 13:46 | kf | mtj did it this morning - but not sure how he did it :( |
| 13:46 | oleonard | Thanks paul_p |
| 13:47 | julian_m_ | jcamins, no patch have been sumbitted yet for 7419, i still have to work on it |
| 13:47 | paul_p | oleonard mail sent |
| 13:47 | julian_m_ | jcamins, what follow-up are you talking about? |
| 13:47 | oleonard | tinkering with the dashboard interface would be a nice thing to do when I should be doing other things |
| 13:47 | jcamins | julian_m_: the one I haven't written yet. :) |
| 13:47 | julian_m_: I started work before I heard that you had a patch for submission. | |
| 13:47 | kf | oleonard: sounds like fun :) |
| 13:47 | jcamins | So all the code that I wrote should be integrated to work with yours. |
| 13:48 | mtompset | I am just thinking of parameters again, jcamins. |
| 13:48 | should it be --list-dir or --sources? | |
| 13:48 | Do we have to force sanity on the user? | |
| 13:49 | jcamins | mtompset: either one is fine with me. |
| 13:49 | mtj | oleonard: i'm having a go at a css theme for teh dashboard, too :) |
| 13:49 | jcamins | I'll only call it from another script. |
| 13:49 | kf | mtj: why are you not asleep? :) |
| 13:50 | oleonard | mtj: You were successful in getting it running locally? |
| 13:50 | julian_m_ | jcamins, ok, i have to leave now, i will try to rebase the patch soon, and maybe we can talk about it once the patch is submitted? |
| 13:50 | mtj | yes mam, yes sir |
| 13:50 | jcamins | julian_m_: do you have a sense of when you will be doing that? |
| 13:50 | I hate to duplicate your work, but I also have code. | |
| 13:51 | * oleonard | will not do anything with it if mtj is already working on something |
| 13:51 | julian_m_ | maybe tomorrow, at last beginning of next week |
| 13:51 | mtompset | Is this going to turn into the eating philosophers problem? |
| 13:51 | and everyone starves? | |
| 13:51 | mtj | oleonard, cool, i'll have something sorted in a day or 3... |
| 13:52 | jcamins | julian_m_: awesome! |
| 13:52 | julian_m++ | |
| 13:52 | julian_m_ | jcamins, i have to go, see you! |
| 13:58 | wizzyrea | has anyone looked at civicrm, I really like how they do their "configuration checklist" |
| 13:58 | basically "Set these things up, fool." | |
| 13:58 | mtompset | Are there any linux distribution names that have something other than letters in the name that we care about, jcamins? |
| 13:58 | jcamins | mtompset: not to my knowledge. |
| 13:59 | mtompset | I figure I should do SOME sanity checking on the parameters. |
| 14:00 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I'm not seeing that. Where did you find it? |
| 14:00 | Ah, found it. | |
| 14:02 | nengard: sekjal has been working on finding a Meebo alternative for UMass. | |
| 14:02 | nengard | well he might like my list of open source chat options :) |
| 14:02 | it's in the comments on that post | |
| 14:05 | wizzyrea | mtj++ |
| 14:05 | oleonard | drojf == Mirko? I did not put that together until now. |
| 14:05 | drojf | heh. yes |
| 14:07 | mtompset | You're slower than me. ;) |
| 14:07 | Not enough caffeine, I suppose. :) | |
| 14:07 | wizzyrea | sekjal ought to look at mibew |
| 14:08 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I think the problem was bridging it to chat networks. |
| 14:08 | * oleonard | suggests a visit to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars to all who haven't already |
| 14:09 | * drojf | thought he already put his name in there |
| 14:09 | drojf | seems like i did not |
| 14:10 | mtompset | oleonard++ # for suggesting that. |
| 14:10 | Sometimes it is hard to know what is in the wiki, because you didn't know you were to be looking for it. | |
| 14:10 | wizzyrea | irc regulars? |
| 14:10 | wahanui | i heard irc regulars was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
| 14:10 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 14:10 | wahanui knows lots of thigns | |
| 14:10 | wahanui | wizzyrea: i'm not following you... |
| 14:10 | drojf | lol |
| 14:10 | oleonard | Looks like libsysguy needs to update his entry |
| 14:11 | wizzyrea | but is easily confused |
| 14:11 | libsysguy | heh |
| 14:11 | true | |
| 14:12 | oleonard | ...and some people should have their "regular" status revoked. *cough*pianohacker*cough* |
| 14:12 | * oleonard | hopes he's doing well |
| 14:12 | * wizzyrea | too |
| 14:13 | * libsysguy | is updated |
| 14:14 | wizzyrea | hm libsysguy |
| 14:14 | wahanui | libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 14:14 | wizzyrea | if you are in there |
| 14:14 | libsysguy | well |
| 14:14 | wizzyrea | nuke out (lol) joetho, pianohacker |
| 14:14 | libsysguy | it was updating |
| 14:14 | ok going to nuke | |
| 14:15 | oleonard | joetho's not working in a Koha system anymore eh wizzyrea? |
| 14:15 | wizzyrea | no, sadly |
| 14:15 | libsysguy | ok they are gone too |
| 14:15 | wizzyrea | bg turns into bag |
| 14:15 | libsysguy | now libsysguy is koha's youngest developer again!! |
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | libsysguy is also koha's youngest developer |
| 14:16 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | libsysguy? |
| 14:16 | wahanui | libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck or koha's youngest developer |
| 14:16 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 14:16 | * jcamins | is not! o/ |
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | that's a lot of 'ests' |
| 14:17 | very good thanks libsysguy | |
| 14:17 | libsysguy++ | |
| 14:17 | * oleonard | hands libsysguy the scissors with the rounded ends |
| 14:17 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 14:17 | libsysguy | :'( |
| 14:17 | oleonard | Oh man those sucked so bad didn't they? |
| 14:17 | libsysguy | oleonard are those to cut out the bad code in Koha |
| 14:18 | if so, imma need a sharper pair :p | |
| 14:18 | wizzyrea | just remember |
| 14:18 | walk with the tips pointed towards the floor. | |
| 14:18 | libsysguy | and don't trip |
| 14:18 | wizzyrea | don't grab the blades. |
| 14:18 | can you tell I recently had this conversation with a little person? | |
| 14:19 | libsysguy | haha little people scare me |
| 14:20 | mtompset | You once were a little person. :P |
| 14:21 | libsysguy | I was afraid of myself then too :p |
| 14:21 | actually I hated being called a little kid | |
| 14:21 | mtompset | jcamins, I decided to tweak the parameters a bit, but I'm not going to get to test them yet. |
| 14:21 | jcamins | mtompset: take your time. |
| 14:21 | mtompset | Instead of: check_deps.sh [--koha-dir=<path>] [--list-dir=<path> [--dist=<dist> --release=<release>]] [<file> [<full>]]? |
| 14:22 | --file=<file> | |
| 14:22 | and --full=[01] | |
| 14:22 | jcamins | Why not just --full to specify full=1 and no --full to specify full=0? |
| 14:22 | mtompset | that way the parsing of the parameters is a lot easier. :) |
| 14:23 | That's extra code. :P | |
| 14:23 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 14:24 | * chris_n | upgrades to quantal to get bugfixes which should be in precise >:-( |
| 14:24 | mtompset | because then I have to check if there wasn't an = and value. |
| 14:24 | jcamins | Doesn't getopt do it for you? |
| 14:24 | mtompset | I suppose I could have done it that way. :P |
| 14:24 | But I've never used getopt before. | |
| 14:25 | * jcamins | only uses it in Perl. |
| 14:25 | mtompset | I was thinking of purposefully writing out a perl script from the bash script just to deal with parameters. ;) |
| 14:25 | but I decided that would be too ugly. | |
| 14:25 | nengard | can someone explain a bit more about the IntranetSlipPrinterJS preference? The description says to 'Define at least function printThenClose(). ' but that function isn't in the box and that seems to imply that you need that in there at the very least |
| 14:26 | jcamins | mtompset: better to just use Perl in that case? |
| 14:26 | mtompset | BAH! |
| 14:27 | jcamins | nengard: no idea, but didn't Kyle write that? |
| 14:27 | kf | nengard: best to ask mveron - but I think there is also an example on the bug |
| 14:27 | jcamins: nope, mveron's bug :) | |
| 14:27 | nengard: he did write up a lot about how it works | |
| 14:27 | jcamins | Oh, never mind. |
| 14:28 | nengard | i'll look at the bug report to see if i can figure it out |
| 14:32 | nope, no clue :) | |
| 14:32 | left a comment on there | |
| 14:34 | oleonard | nengard it looks like there's two basic steps: Install the jsPrintSetup addon, and populate the pref |
| 14:35 | That first comment gives you an example for what to populate the pref with in Step 4 | |
| 14:35 | nengard | THANK YOU |
| 14:35 | :) | |
| 14:35 | I was missing the whole install the add on part | |
| 14:35 | we should update the description on that preference to make it clearer | |
| 14:35 | oleonard | Hmmm... not sure about the "Choose printer using one or more of the following functions" step |
| 14:37 | kf | nengard: I think you could use other addons too maybe, it allows to add custom javascript |
| 14:37 | ah never mind | |
| 14:37 | * kf | goes back to rebuilding her dev env and cries a little |
| 14:38 | oleonard | kf: :( |
| 14:39 | kf | new computer and my old vm refused migration very stubbornly |
| 14:41 | mtompset | why would it do that? |
| 14:41 | * chris_n | hands kf some chocolates |
| 14:41 | mtompset | what's your VM ware? |
| 14:41 | kf | virtualbox |
| 14:41 | wahanui | i heard virtualbox was good for that sort of thing |
| 14:41 | kf | but it was broken a bit since the day my computer froze while taking a snapshot |
| 14:42 | mtompset | Oh. |
| 14:42 | kf | I got it back running... but then I couldn't shut it down and reboot, which made things difficult |
| 14:42 | mtompset | I've never had a problem transplant my VMs with virtualbox. |
| 14:42 | kf | long story |
| 14:42 | starting over is probably best | |
| 14:42 | only a bit painful | |
| 14:42 | mtompset | transplantING... |
| 14:42 | * mtompset | nods. |
| 14:46 | oleonard | nengard: Are you trying that now? |
| 14:47 | nengard | nope .. |
| 14:47 | i'm working on the manual right now | |
| 14:47 | for now i put a placeholder there for the preference | |
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| 15:00 | mtompset | well, I must go to bed. |
| 15:00 | I think I have the parameter code almost done. | |
| 15:00 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:00 | mtompset | Now to integrate it back into the script later. |
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| 15:09 | jcamins | paul_p: rebased bug 3462. |
| 15:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Link see alsos in authorities |
| 15:10 | kf | wizzyrea: still around? |
| 15:10 | paul_p | jcamins thx. bug 8204 also just failed QA (but I LOVE it !) |
| 15:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8204 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Authority viewer in OPAC ugly, unfriendly, and mostly useless |
| 15:10 | kf | wizzyrea: didn't you write a script for updating child to adult? (bug 3410?) |
| 15:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3410 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, REOPENED , Update Child to Adult Patron |
| 15:10 | jcamins | paul_p: hm. I tested it with UNIMARC, but maybe my authority wasn't valid. |
| 15:11 | Any chance you could attach a UNIMARC authority to that patch? | |
| 15:11 | *bug | |
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| 15:14 | paul_p | jcamins = i've a better suggestion = clone the sandbox repo, sandbox1.sql.gz is a valid UNIMARC database ;-) |
| 15:14 | jcamins | Oh, right. |
| 15:14 | :) | |
| 15:17 | kf | paul_p++ and jcamins++ - hope to see the new view soon :) |
| 15:17 | and now leaving - bye all! | |
| 15:18 | paul_p | bye kf |
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| 15:30 | jcamins | paul_p: there are no authorities at all in the sandbox. |
| 15:31 | paul_p | jcamins ??? strange... |
| 15:31 | * paul_p | investigating |
| 15:32 | paul_p | jcamins = unimarc is on sandbox2.sql, not sandbox1 ! |
| 15:32 | jcamins | Oh! |
| 15:32 | Thanks. | |
| 15:32 | I'll try that, then. :) | |
| 15:34 | nengard | is there a perl module i need to install to be able to use the --help notation? |
| 15:35 | paul_p | jcamins = about bug 8207: i'm really not sure it's OK. The line "removed" has no frameworkcode, where the line "added" has one. (the rest of the diff being s/tab/space/à |
| 15:35 | ) | |
| 15:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8207 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Modify authority type frameworks to allow see also fields to link to thesauri |
| 15:35 | jcamins | nengard: maybe perldoc? |
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| 15:35 | jcamins | paul_p: oh, was I looking at something different than what you were looking at? |
| 15:35 | * jcamins | will check. |
| 15:35 | nengard | trying that |
| 15:37 | paul_p | jcamins = for example, line 779- and 781+ have as last parameter '' (authtypecode), where line 780 has 'CORPO_NAME' |
| 15:37 | jcamins = sounds illogical to me to mix authtypes, so I thought it was a mistake | |
| 15:38 | nengard | jcamins how do i install it? |
| 15:38 | cpan perldoc didn't work | |
| 15:38 | jcamins | Ohhh. |
| 15:38 | nengard | what's the module for apt get |
| 15:38 | jcamins | nengard: use packages, always. |
| 15:38 | perldoc. | |
| 15:38 | wahanui | somebody said perldoc was at http://perldoc.koha-community.org for the C4 modules and more |
| 15:38 | jcamins | paul_p: oh, I see. |
| 15:38 | The last parameter is not for framework but for the thesaurus to use for see also references. | |
| 15:39 | nengard | i'm totally lost |
| 15:39 | i see nothing related to perldoc on that page | |
| 15:39 | jcamins | nengard: the package is 'perldoc' |
| 15:39 | apt-get perldoc | |
| 15:40 | paul_p: does that answer your question? | |
| 15:40 | nengard: wahanui was just making conversation. ;) | |
| 15:43 | paul_p | jcamins yes, |
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| 15:46 | paul_p | jcamins = not sure I understand "UNIMARC is sensible". Does it mean we should do a patch for it ? |
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| 15:47 | jcamins | paul_p: no, I mean that UNIMARC *already* supports thesauri. |
| 15:48 | paul_p | jcamins ok, thx |
| 15:48 | jcamins | paul_p: I found the problem with UNIMARC. |
| 15:49 | And fixed it. | |
| 15:49 | :) | |
| 15:49 | paul_p | yeah ! will test again immediately ;-) |
| 15:50 | jcamins | Should I squash it, or attach a follow-up? |
| 15:50 | paul_p | jcamins a follow-up pls |
| 15:50 | (so it will retain the initial sign-off & i'll add mine on the follow-up | |
| 15:50 | jcamins | Okay, that's what I figured. :) |
| 15:51 | Attached. :) | |
| 15:53 | mtompset | Okay... I obviously don't know when to stop coding. |
| 15:53 | jcamins | Clearly not. |
| 15:53 | mtompset | The source.list stuff isnt' done. |
| 15:53 | But the parameters are there mostly. | |
| 15:53 | See your email. | |
| 15:53 | jcamins | mtompset: yup, I saw it. :) |
| 15:54 | mtompset | source.list stuff... tomorrow, and I don't mean 6 minutes from now. |
| 15:54 | jcamins | lol |
| 15:55 | mtompset | Shoot... found a bug already... the .fix file is appended. |
| 15:55 | I don't clear it out. | |
| 15:55 | well, sleep. really. | |
| 15:55 | * mtompset | waves. |
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| 16:18 | paul_p | time to go back home for me. I'm tired today. Have a nice day/night/whatever & see you tomorrow ! |
| 16:19 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8204: fix UNIMARC display <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dee8168bafe8a6002> / Bug 8204: Add user friendly authority view to OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]57eed4aa8d64aef93> / Bug 8208 follow-up: move Clear and Create new buttons out of results <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=commitd |
| 16:19 | jcamins | Someone talk me out of peach cobbler for lunch. |
| 16:21 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #794 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 22 days ago) |
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| 16:25 | jcamins | Right, none of those arguments were convincing. |
| 16:25 | * jcamins | goes to make a cobbler. |
| 16:29 | * oleonard | would only argue against peach cobbler in order to argue for apple crisp |
| 16:29 | jcamins | oleonard: apples aren't in season yet. |
| 16:29 | However, good call on the apple crisp. | |
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| 16:34 | martian523 | hi, is there a way to move the titles in acquisitions to catalog? |
| 16:34 | jcamins | martian523: you have to attach acquisitions records to a record in your catalog. |
| 16:35 | martian523 | meaning? |
| 16:35 | jcamins | martian523: when you create an acquisitions record, you are linking it to a record in your catalog. There's no "moving" involved. |
| 16:36 | martian523 | but what if those are new titles that are not in the catalog yet? |
| 16:36 | i got these records from the Z39 | |
| 16:37 | these records got moved to the reservoir, | |
| 16:37 | how can i get those records into the catalog? | |
| 16:38 | jcamins | You have to create a record for them. I promise, there will be a record (even if just a short one) by the time you've finished the acquisitions process. |
| 16:38 | You can use the cataloging module. | |
| 16:38 | * jcamins | should mention, though, that the acquisitions module always worked on actual records when he tried using it. |
| 16:38 | jcamins | (not records in the reservoir) |
| 16:40 | martian523 | is there an example i can refer to? |
| 16:50 | i'm kinda confused here, sorry | |
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| 16:52 | jcamins | manual? |
| 16:52 | wahanui | somebody said manual was at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 16:53 | jcamins | ^^ look through the acquisitions section. |
| 16:53 | I don't generally use acquisitions. | |
| 16:53 | martian523 | ooh....maybe i get it now |
| 16:53 | i think i need to edit records for each title | |
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| 16:55 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 16:55 | mbalmer | goodeveningmrmarcveronhowslifethefishandeverything? |
| 16:56 | mveron | Hi mbalmer, everyting OK :-) |
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| 17:00 | cait | hi #koha |
| 17:01 | mbalmer | grüezi cait |
| 17:01 | cait | hi mbalmer |
| 17:05 | mveron | Hi cait :-) |
| 17:05 | cait | hi mveron |
| 17:05 | you have been busy :) | |
| 17:06 | mveron | Regarding the slip printer? I shoud set up a wiki page for it |
| 17:06 | drojf | hi german-speaking feierabendcommunity ;) |
| 17:06 | mveron | hi drojf |
| 17:06 | mbalmer | der berliner... |
| 17:06 | cait | mveron: it would be nice, but in general your documentation is quite good :) |
| 17:06 | mveron | Thaks, cait :-) |
| 17:07 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 17:07 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 30.7°C (6:42 PM CEST on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:07 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 17:07 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 31.0°C (7:00 PM CEST on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
| 17:07 | cait | really warm day here today |
| 17:07 | mveron | @wunder Allschwil |
| 17:07 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Mulhouse FR, Basel, Switzerland is 33.3°C (6:37 PM CEST on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:07 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 17:07 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 32.8°C (12:41 PM EDT on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... |
| 17:07 | mbalmer | @wunder gipf-oberfrick |
| 17:07 | huginn | mbalmer: The current temperature in Erlinsbach, Switzerland is 32.1°C (6:59 PM CEST on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:07 | oleonard | Hot everywhere |
| 17:08 | mbalmer | even in erlinsbach... |
| 17:08 | cait | ah mbalmer beat me |
| 17:09 | mbalmer | and you have a lake to jump in... |
| 17:09 | mveron | Back in 30 minutes, dinner time :-) |
| 17:10 | cait | mbalmer: cold shower ? :) |
| 17:11 | mbalmer | outdoor sauna.... |
| 17:17 | * drojf | just got his fan from the shelf |
| 17:17 | drojf | much better |
| 17:21 | cait | my apartment is nice and cool :) |
| 17:24 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #794: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/794/ |
| 17:24 | * mtj: Bug 8470: remove depreciated H:T:P test | |
| 17:24 | * savitra.sirohi: Bug 7153 - Show Open Library as Search Target in "More Searches" in OPAC detail page | |
| 17:24 | * jcamins: Bug 8208: Add fast-add link to auth finder plugin | |
| 17:24 | * jcamins: Bug 8208 follow-up: move Clear and Create new buttons out of results | |
| 17:24 | * jcamins: Bug 8204: Add user friendly authority view to OPAC | |
| 17:24 | * jcamins: Bug 8204: fix UNIMARC display | |
| 17:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8470 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , remove depreciated H:T:P test file |
| 17:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7153 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, savitra.sirohi, Pushed to Master , Show Open Library as Search Target in "More Searches" in OPAC detail page | |
| 17:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8208 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add "create authority" button to auth_finder plugin | |
| 17:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8204 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority viewer in OPAC ugly, unfriendly, and mostly useless | |
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| 17:52 | Morthland | I'm having an issue with Amazon AWS |
| 17:55 | jcamins | Morthland: you should probably contact Amazon. |
| 18:00 | martian523 | hi, does Koha not support asian languages? |
| 18:04 | oleonard | martian523: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ohaUsers/EastAsia |
| 18:06 | cait | martian523: do you have a specific problem? |
| 18:09 | martian523 | i was using the Z39 to search for chinese books and it came back with unreadable characters |
| 18:11 | inputing new records has no problem, but retrieving records from external source has problem | |
| 18:11 | jcamins | martian523: your problem is the encoding you have set up for the Z39.50 server. |
| 18:11 | Change it from MARC-8 to UTF-8. | |
| 18:11 | wahanui | jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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| 18:13 | jcamins | (or, less likely, to a different encoding which matches that of the server you are trying to access) |
| 18:14 | martian523 | hmmm... |
| 18:18 | cait | hm and maybe try importing and check if it's still unreadable |
| 18:18 | I had issues with the marc preview and german umlauts lately (again) | |
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| 19:19 | cait | night #koha |
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| 19:31 | mveron | Good night #koha |
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| 19:50 | rangi | hi mgeist |
| 19:50 | also | |
| 19:50 | mgeist | Hola. |
| 19:50 | rangi | git show --word-diff=color <-- for everybody |
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| 20:13 | kathryn | morning all |
| 20:33 | mgeist | Would this be possible as a development: in a consortium setting, make it so that all holds requests from a specific library and their patrons, are ignored, for a set time period? |
| 20:35 | rangi | anything is possible :) given resources to do it :) |
| 20:36 | but yes, that would be doable, would be a decent chunk of work because it would have to be generic to be useful | |
| 20:37 | mgeist | Thanks, we were trying to find out if it was even feasible to try this with software changes. |
| 20:37 | rangi | holds are undergoing a decent amount of change at the moment, that should make it easier than it was before |
| 20:37 | but it would still need to touch code in quite a lot of places | |
| 20:38 | mgeist | Oh, i will need to read up on the changes. Is this going to be in v10? |
| 20:38 | jcamins | mgeist: you might want to think, though, about what exactly your goal is. |
| 20:38 | rangi | issues, returns, reports, would you need them to be hidden on the biblio record too? or maybe just greyed out |
| 20:38 | jcamins | You can't do quite what you asked about, but I think once the hold rewrite stuff is done you'll be able to disallow hold requests from patrons at a particular branch (rangi, do I remember correctly that Srdjan was working on this?). |
| 20:39 | rangi | you'd want to spec it up as fully as you can, and then people will be able to figure out how to do it |
| 20:39 | i like using user stories to do this | |
| 20:39 | mgeist | Our goal would be to limit a specific set of libraries, and their patrons, from receiving holds. ie. If you dont share your new stuff, you cant have new stuff from other branches. |
| 20:39 | rangi | 1/ librarian a places a hold from branch b |
| 20:39 | 2/ something happens | |
| 20:39 | 3/ ??? | |
| 20:39 | 4/ profit | |
| 20:39 | mgeist | lol |
| 20:39 | rangi | :) |
| 20:40 | and yep srdjan (papa is his irc nick) was working on that | |
| 20:40 | disallow holds | |
| 20:40 | jcamins | mgeist: it would not be nearly as slick as what you asked about, but it might be a good temporary option. |
| 20:40 | (in 3.10) | |
| 20:42 | mgeist | We hope it woudlnt have to be used for more than a month or two |
| 20:43 | rangi | ahh the old carrot and stick :) |
| 20:43 | mgeist: would not letting them place holds if they are from that branch work? | |
| 20:43 | its kinda the other way round | |
| 20:44 | rather than stopping them receiving, they cant even ask to have them | |
| 20:44 | ? | |
| 20:44 | if that would work, you might be able to use that | |
| 20:44 | and | |
| 20:45 | koha supports holds that dont start until a certain period | |
| 20:45 | so you could find all their holds in the db | |
| 20:45 | and do | |
| 20:45 | update reserves set startdate='2012-10-10' where branchcode='wedontshare'; | |
| 20:46 | so they cant place any new ones, and all the oens in the db now, dont get looked at by koha until after that date | |
| 20:46 | hackery version 2 | |
| 20:46 | you could cron that | |
| 20:46 | and juts let them place it, but have a script change the start date | |
| 20:47 | (im not recommending that approach :)) | |
| 20:48 | mgeist | Hrm, that looks like it could work. I save off your suggestion and recommend that. |
| 20:48 | jcamins | rangi: ooh, what about some jQuery that automatically sets the startdate to a ways out for users from that library? |
| 20:48 | Users with javascript blockers (or very savvy users) would get around it, but it might be easier to do, politically speaking? | |
| 20:49 | rangi | oh yes that would work |
| 20:49 | and the cron could run once a night | |
| 20:49 | to fix any ones that sneaked past :) | |
| 20:50 | mgeist: that jquery option, is probably the least work, and will most likely work the best | |
| 20:51 | mgeist | Oh, except, we really only want to limit their holds on items that are 2 months old or less. Can you restrict it to that, or is it blanket no holds? |
| 20:51 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #108 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:51 | rangi | hmmm |
| 20:51 | no | |
| 20:51 | its blanket | |
| 20:52 | mgeist | Too bad! |
| 20:52 | rangi | however you could craft sql that checks that |
| 20:52 | eg | |
| 20:52 | update reserves set startdate='2012-10-10' where branchcode='wedontshare' and itemtype='newbook'; | |
| 20:52 | (that wont actually work, it would be more complicated than that) | |
| 20:52 | but something like that may be possible | |
| 20:53 | however we are getting into pretty hacky land | |
| 20:53 | it depends on how permanent a solution you want this to be | |
| 20:53 | and if other libraries might ever want it | |
| 20:54 | mgeist | Hopefully mere threats, and some actual "and this is how we would implement it" threats would work. But we are only looking for ideas now. |
| 20:54 | jcamins | You could do some fancy jQuery, I suppose. |
| 20:54 | Very fancy. | |
| 20:58 | mgeist | I have what i need now. Thank you both for your assistance. |
| 20:58 | rangi | no worries |
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| 21:41 | rangi | hmm 7153 is probbaly safe for 3.8.x because it only affects new installs and just adds openlibrary as a search target for more searches |
| 21:41 | bug 7153 | |
| 21:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7153 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, savitra.sirohi, Pushed to Master , Show Open Library as Search Target in "More Searches" in OPAC detail page |
| 21:42 | rangi | any counter opinions? |
| 21:42 | (no updatedatabase, only modifies the syspref.sql file) | |
| 21:43 | jcamins | Fine with me. |
| 21:44 | mgeist | hometime! bye. |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | doesn't bother me |
| 21:50 | rangi | ill take it |
| 21:50 | * rangi | pushes |
| 21:55 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #108: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/108/ |
| 21:55 | * jcamins: Bug 7943: Authority search results are untranslatable | |
| 21:55 | * jcamins: Bug 7943 follow-up: Fix template filename | |
| 21:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7943 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Untranslatable strings in OPAC's authority search |
| 21:55 | rangi | ohh a rtfmm |
| 21:55 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #109 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:55 | rangi | read the f'n marc manual |
| 21:55 | doug_dearden++ | |
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| 22:58 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #109: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/109/ |
| 22:58 | * mtj: Bug 8470: remove depreciated H:T:P test | |
| 22:58 | * savitra.sirohi: Bug 7153 - Show Open Library as Search Target in "More Searches" in OPAC detail page | |
| 22:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8470 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , remove depreciated H:T:P test file |
| 22:58 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7153 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, savitra.sirohi, Pushed to Stable , Show Open Library as Search Target in "More Searches" in OPAC detail page | |
| 23:00 | rangi | jcamins: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/cigame/? |
| 23:01 | jcamins | Yay! I'm winning! :P |
| 23:01 | rangi | hehe well 9 points is bad |
| 23:01 | isnt even | |
| 23:01 | its 9 more than me :) | |
| 23:02 | jcamins | :) |
| 23:03 | Hmmm... | |
| 23:03 | if we're using that, I'll have to push patches one at a time. | |
| 23:03 | (presuming I'm elected RM) | |
| 23:04 | rangi | ah yeah i push them in batches, so its not really valid |
| 23:04 | tis is silly fun tho :) and requires no effort | |
| 23:04 | and if you end up in a group that loses -10 | |
| 23:05 | you can gang up on the build breaker *grin* | |
| 23:05 | * jcamins | thinks maybe putting that on the dashboard would be useful. |
| 23:05 | rangi | *nod* |
| 23:05 | i wonder if it has an api, the rest of jenkins does | |
| 23:05 | its tres cool | |
| 23:05 | http://jenkins.koha-community.org/api/ | |
| 23:06 | nope, not for the game | |
| 23:06 | i could mechanize it tho | |
| 23:06 | jcamins | 404. |
| 23:06 | Bah. | |
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| 23:11 | dcook | morning, #koha |
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| 23:56 | * dcook | curses IE < 9 |
| 23:57 | rangi | you dont need the < 9 biut |
| 23:57 | IE-- | |
| 23:58 | dcook | Signifies the same thing? |
| 23:58 | rangi | @karma for IE |
| 23:58 | huginn | rangi: for IE has neutral karma. |
| 23:58 | rangi | @karma for ie |
| 23:58 | huginn | rangi: for ie has neutral karma. |
| 23:59 | rangi | what! |
| 23:59 | ie-- | |
| 23:59 | @karma for ie | |
| 23:59 | huginn | rangi: for ie has neutral karma. |
| 23:59 | rangi | hmmm |
| 23:59 | explorer-- | |
| 23:59 | dcook | :O |
| 23:59 | rangi | ahhh |
| 23:59 | @karma IE | |
| 23:59 | huginn | rangi: Karma for "IE" has been increased 0 times and decreased 42 times for a total karma of -42. |
| 23:59 | rangi | there we go |
| 23:59 | * dcook | thinks that he may have found his problem. Damn case sensitivity |
| 23:59 | rangi | @karma ie |
| 23:59 | huginn | rangi: Karma for "ie" has been increased 0 times and decreased 42 times for a total karma of -42. |
| 23:59 | dcook | IE-- |
| 23:59 | rangi | @karma explorer |
| 23:59 | huginn | rangi: Karma for "explorer" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. |
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