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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 01:23 | rangi | mtj++ #kicking arse and doing qa |
| 01:26 | mtj | hey, jcamins had a nice QA idea.... |
| 01:26 | jcamins | Did someone say my name in vain? |
| 01:27 | mtj | set up a bot to check new *.patch attachments to bugzilla, and run various qa-tests on that patch |
| 01:27 | rangi | heh |
| 01:27 | jcamins | mtj: I think rangi suggested that to me. |
| 01:27 | rangi | yep |
| 01:27 | heh | |
| 01:27 | mtj | ... then log the test result to the bug |
| 01:27 | rangi | yep |
| 01:27 | you can fetch any search results as xml | |
| 01:28 | with bugzilla | |
| 01:28 | jcamins | rangi: you can? Didn't realize that. |
| 01:28 | rangi | you can |
| 01:28 | mtj | even testing that the patch applies OK to master, too |
| 01:28 | jcamins | Bet that's a lot easier than CSV + WWW::Mechanize. |
| 01:29 | rangi | if i can remember the syntaxt |
| 01:29 | -t | |
| 01:29 | jcamins | mtj: paul_p already has a script for testing if patches apply. |
| 01:30 | For that I think better not to update the ticket, but it would be nice if that information could be on the dashboard. | |
| 01:30 | mtj | ah, so he does :) |
| 01:30 | rangi | &format=xml |
| 01:31 | jcamins | Nifty. |
| 01:31 | Now we just need a bz swiss army chainsaw script. | |
| 01:31 | mtj | i disagree, that info should go in the ticket |
| 01:32 | rangi | sorry ctype |
| 01:32 | jcamins | mtj: the problem with the "patch applies/patch doesn't apply" is that it is often a very easy merge, and changes very frequently. |
| 01:33 | mtj | yeah, agreed |
| 01:37 | i guess we dont want to scare people off, there... | |
| 01:37 | jcamins | And that's not really a conclusive "this patch will fail" type thing. |
| 01:37 | mtj | although, the qa-tools tests cant be started on a patch, if the patch wont apply clean... |
| 01:37 | so, the qa-tools tests, would be testing that a patch applies clean, anyway... :) | |
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| 01:37 | jcamins | So that one I think should not update bugs. |
| 01:37 | All the other scripts should. | |
| 01:37 | dcook++ | |
| 01:38 | dcook | Hmm? |
| 01:38 | jcamins | dcook: bug 8453. A very good point. |
| 01:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8453 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , need spaces after radio buttons on inventory |
| 01:40 | mtj- | anyone got a good tool for testing valid xml (with an xslt files too?) |
| 01:40 | xmllint perhaps? | |
| 01:40 | dcook | jcamins: Nicole's or mine? |
| 01:40 | jcamins | mtj-: I used to use xmllint. |
| 01:41 | dcook: yours. That's why you got karma. :P | |
| 01:41 | @karma dcook | |
| 01:41 | huginn | jcamins: Karma for "dcook" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
| 01:41 | jcamins | @karma jcamins |
| 01:41 | huginn | jcamins: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 352 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 351. |
| 01:41 | jcamins | @karma |
| 01:41 | huginn | jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (614), "oleonard" (518), and "jcamins" (351). Lowest karma: "<!" (-110), "failed" (-89), and "-" (-54). You (jcamins) are ranked 3 out of 2147. |
| 01:42 | dcook | I realized that after I posted, lol. I don't think the 4-5 hours of sleep last night was a good idea. |
| 01:42 | jcamins | Wow. Number 3. |
| 01:42 | dcook | Ahh, I had been wondering about that |
| 01:42 | Well done, jcamins | |
| 01:42 | jcamins | Don't think I'll be catching up with oleonard or rangi any time soon. |
| 01:42 | rangi | you will when i released my next version of koha |
| 01:43 | its gonna be even bettererer | |
| 01:43 | mtj- | stupid koha people praising and encouraging each other! |
| 01:43 | jcamins | lol |
| 01:43 | dcook | lol |
| 01:43 | rangi | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]1/koha-7287-12-2/ |
| 01:43 | jcamins | mtj-: anyway, yeah, xmllint. That should be included in xt, the same as the yamllint thing. |
| 01:44 | * jcamins | hadn't seen comment three. |
| 01:44 | rangi | heh |
| 01:44 | jcamins | mtj-: change your nick or someone is going to take away your karma by accident. |
| 01:44 | wahanui | jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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| 01:45 | mtj- | ... cluttering up my irc logfile with their inane positive comments |
| 01:46 | dcook | Telepathy would be handy... |
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| 01:54 | dcook | But yes, bug 8453, I just saw Nicole's response. Surely Koha doesn't use hard-coded spaces like that to affect display :S |
| 01:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8453 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , need spaces after radio buttons on inventory |
| 01:55 | jcamins | dcook: nope. |
| 01:55 | dcook: or, rather, it might, but it should stop, and certainly we shouldn't compound the issue. | |
| 02:01 | dcook | Agreed. |
| 02:01 | I've noticed recently that a lot of bugs don't have QA contacts. | |
| 02:01 | jcamins | Yes, the QA contact is set when someone on the QA team begins to QA the bug. |
| 02:02 | dcook | It seems like it used to be set automatically. Does that mean that no one has taken ownership of that particular module? |
| 02:02 | jcamins | Once a bug has been signed off, someone on the QA team will claim it, when they think they will be able to QA it. |
| 02:02 | Oh, you mean default assignee? | |
| 02:02 | That wasn't very useful because people aren't paid to fix all the bugs in a given module, and don't have time for it, either. | |
| 02:02 | dcook | Nope. I swear that there used to be a default assignee and a default QA contact |
| 02:02 | Mmm | |
| 02:03 | jcamins | Oh, you're thinking of the bugs mailing list? |
| 02:03 | dcook | I don't think so |
| 02:03 | jcamins | That was changed to a global watcher so that the QA team could use the QA contact field. |
| 02:03 | dcook | Even now, there's the option "Reset QA Contact to default" |
| 02:03 | jcamins | Yeah, I think that sets it to blank. |
| 02:04 | dcook | I suppose it doesn't matter much though, as the QA team will still be picking up signed off patches |
| 02:04 | I'm just wondering how to contribute more ;) | |
| 02:04 | I also figure the more I help out, the more that people can help by looking at my patches :P | |
| 02:04 | Like you say, time and money | |
| 02:04 | jcamins | Right. And assigning the QA to a specific person is a good way to get it ignored when that person turns out to be on vacation. |
| 02:04 | Exactly. | |
| 02:04 | rangi just had a blog post about that. | |
| 02:04 | Signing off is a really good idea. | |
| 02:04 | (on other patches) | |
| 02:05 | It makes people a lot more likely to spend the time to sign off on your patches. | |
| 02:05 | dcook | Makes sense |
| 02:06 | rangi | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]hing-to-sign-off/ |
| 02:06 | that one? | |
| 02:06 | jcamins | That's the one. |
| 02:07 | dcook | Mmm, that's a really good post |
| 02:08 | It's certainly been a process in terms of contributions | |
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| 02:09 | dcook | But it's certainly a team environment, and I want to help out :) |
| 02:09 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 02:09 | dcook | Your presentation at Access 2011 certainly made an impression on me, rangi :p |
| 02:09 | Oak | hello rangi :) |
| 02:09 | dcook | |
| 02:09 | rangi | yay! |
| 02:10 | heya Oak | |
| 02:10 | Oak | :] |
| 02:11 | dcook | Hiya Oak |
| 02:11 | rangi | andy lester (of perl fame) says it well |
| 02:11 | Open source is built on code, but our communities are stitched together with kind words, gratitude, and little acts of service. | |
| 02:13 | dcook | I couldn't agree more :) |
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| 02:18 | Judit | hi |
| 02:18 | rangi | hi Judit |
| 02:20 | Judit | if a patron is blocked what number should i have in the borrowers.debarred |
| 02:20 | rangi | what version of koha |
| 02:20 | Judit | 3.6 |
| 02:21 | jcamins | Judit: anything that resolves to true, I think. |
| 02:21 | Judit | 4 |
| 02:21 | 3.6.4 | |
| 02:21 | some patrons come up with the message Patron has had overdue items and is blocked for 588 day(s). | |
| 02:22 | rangi | afaik its a tinyint field, expects a 0 or a 1 |
| 02:22 | Judit | but the debrred value is 0 |
| 02:22 | rangi | yeah that blocked thing is from another place |
| 02:22 | Judit | i dont have status triggers, i dont have circulation rules- other then a basic |
| 02:22 | rangi | something the french libraries added, i cant recall where it stores it |
| 02:23 | Judit | OverduesBlockCirc syspref is dont block |
| 02:23 | and the patrons have no unpaid fines | |
| 02:24 | jcamins | That's fine in days. |
| 02:24 | Maybe in circulation rules you have fineindays blank instead of zero? | |
| 02:26 | Judit | let me ckeck |
| 02:27 | Fine Charging Interval? | |
| 02:29 | jcamins | No. |
| 02:29 | It's fine in days... | |
| 02:30 | (I'm looking to see if I can find it in 3.6.x. | |
| 02:30 | I'm pretty sure it's there, 'cause it was broken in 3.8, but presumably not before... | |
| 02:31 | Suspension in days. | |
| 02:31 | Judit | it is 0 |
| 02:31 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 02:32 | It has something to do with fine in days, but I don't know how that feature works. | |
| 02:32 | It's really French library-specific. | |
| 02:32 | Judit | it is not a french one:) |
| 02:32 | i mean my koha | |
| 02:33 | jcamins | Right, but the feature is, so I don't know how it works at all. |
| 02:33 | Judit | ah, okay |
| 03:11 | dcook | Still there, Judit? |
| 03:15 | The fine days/block days aren't stored anywhere. They're created based on a somewhat elaborate calculation that you can find in your Members.pm table under the IsMemberBlocked sub | |
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| 03:17 | mib_9ozx58 | hello |
| 03:18 | anybody there? | |
| 03:19 | dcook | I think there are a few of us around |
| 03:19 | Hi :) | |
| 03:33 | Judit | hi dcook |
| 03:33 | thanks i will check | |
| 03:34 | dcook | No worries :) |
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| 03:48 | Judit | Returns whether a patron has overdue items that may result in a block or whether the patron has active fine days that would block circulation privileges. |
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| 03:49 | Judit | so overdue items or active fine days are needed to be blocked |
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| 05:08 | cait | morning #koha |
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| 05:49 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #97 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 05:52 | Amit_Gupta | bug 8415 |
| 05:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8415 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Link Serial with Acquisition |
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| 06:01 | mbalmer | morning |
| 06:01 | Judit | good mornin |
| 06:01 | g | |
| 06:10 | Amit_Gupta | bug 6813 |
| 06:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6813 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Acquistions - duplicate search across orders, suggestions and catalog |
| 06:13 | Amit_Gupta | heya judit |
| 06:13 | Judit | hi |
| 06:13 | wahanui | hi, Judit |
| 06:22 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 06:46 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:46 | wahanui | bonjour, reiveune |
| 06:53 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #97: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/97/ |
| 06:53 | * matted-34813: Bug 8375 - Patch for Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF | |
| 06:53 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5644 : Fixing dropbox mode calculation | |
| 06:53 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5644 : Fixing the test | |
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| 06:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Pushed to Stable , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF |
| 06:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5644 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , dropbox mode doesn't set the correct date | |
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| 07:00 | julian_m | hello |
| 07:00 | cait | hi biblibre :) |
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| 07:02 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 07:04 | Is there a "theme" other than "prog"? | |
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| 07:14 | gaetan_B | hello! |
| 07:15 | eythian | hello |
| 07:15 | mtompset | Hello, eythian |
| 07:15 | Hello gaetan_B | |
| 07:15 | Do you know if there is a theme other than prog? | |
| 07:15 | eythian | there isn't |
| 07:16 | mtompset | So, it is one of those things that just hung around. |
| 07:23 | cait | mtompset: I think it proved to much trouble to have your own theme probably |
| 07:25 | mtompset | Okay. Though, with people making sure every section has it's own id, and CSS being what it is. I think it is much easier now. :) |
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| 07:28 | * dcook | agrees |
| 07:28 | dcook | I saw a very cool skin for Evergreen at an art school in Canada, and I think with all the new ids and classes, there's much more room for fairly easy and flexible customizations |
| 07:28 | for Koha | |
| 07:29 | francharb | morning #koha |
| 07:29 | dcook | morning, francharb |
| 07:30 | I think the sun just went down here...:P | |
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| 07:32 | mtompset | I just wish it was as skin-able on the staff side... I still need to work on my bug. |
| 07:34 | dcook | I've wished the same thing at times, although the recent CSS overhaul has helped a lot |
| 07:35 | It's been proferred that skinning the staff side might not be a good idea though | |
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| 07:35 | dcook | Since the manuals and all the videos that Nicole does show the interface in a very specific way |
| 07:36 | mtompset | Well, I'm just looking to change the login page drastically, and the color scheme. |
| 07:37 | But anyways. Back to reading boring authentication stuff. | |
| 07:41 | cait | bye all :) |
| 07:41 | dcook | bye, cait |
| 07:41 | Good point, mtompset. In any case, good luck with the auth stuff | |
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| 07:52 | CharlottevL | good morning everybody |
| 07:52 | can I have again one stupid question? | |
| 07:54 | I would like to print labels to my books via label creator in Koha. Is there some possibility to change encoding? because in default setting it has problems with ěščřžýáíé :( | |
| 07:56 | everyone still sleeping :) | |
| 07:58 | mtompset | not sleeping, distracted by other tasks. |
| 07:59 | Sadly, I'm not familiar with the label printing process. | |
| 08:00 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8063 - Followup - Bug fix <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b8446bb77d0ac45ff> / Bug 8063 - Followup - Make C4/Letters.pm conform to PBP <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]76dabce349258bcee> / Bug 8063 - Hold print notices do not sort by branch <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]mmitdiff;h=e1df3a |
| 08:04 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #786 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 12 days ago) |
| 08:06 | eythian | CharlottevL: unfortunately that's a known problem with the label maker |
| 08:06 | I'm not aware of a workaround :( | |
| 08:12 | CharlottevL | I see :( But I though, that this bug is already corrected... |
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| 08:12 | CharlottevL | (it |
| 08:12 | Judit left #koha | |
| 08:13 | CharlottevL | (It's maybe problem of adobe, not koha, isn't it?) |
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| 08:39 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
| 08:39 | dcook | morning, paul_p |
| 08:39 | and good night #koha ;) | |
| 08:40 | * cait-m__ | waves |
| 08:46 | paul_p | CharlottevL = there's no stupid question. About label encoding, there's a patch that has been pushed very recently into Koha to fix this problem |
| 08:46 | CharlottevL = so in the next 3.8, that should be fixed | |
| 08:47 | CharlottevL bug 8375 | |
| 08:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Pushed to Stable , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF |
| 09:07 | mtompset | A search for 'and the word came with power' generated a ZOOM error in the opac-error-log. |
| 09:08 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #786: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/786/ |
| 09:08 | * tomascohen: Bug 8251 - Follow up, use 'day' instead of 'days' for Datetime::truncate | |
| 09:08 | * kyle: Bug 8063 - Hold print notices do not sort by branch | |
| 09:08 | * kyle: Bug 8063 - Followup - Make C4/Letters.pm conform to PBP | |
| 09:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Signed Off , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
| 09:08 | jenkins_koha | * kyle: Bug 8063 - Followup - Bug fix |
| 09:08 | mtompset | Drop the 'and', the search works fine. |
| 09:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8063 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Hold print notices do not sort by branch |
| 09:18 | cait-m__ | paul_p jenkins is complaining to ke by mail - can you make it stop? |
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| 09:34 | drojf | good day #koha |
| 09:35 | * cait-m__ | wavws |
| 09:36 | drojf | hi cait-m__ |
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| 09:39 | * rangi | giggles at the mailing list |
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| 09:39 | cait | yay real keyboard |
| 09:40 | mtompset | as compared to a fake one? ;) |
| 09:40 | Hello, cait. | |
| 09:40 | Greetings, #koha. | |
| 09:40 | cait | with real keys |
| 09:40 | :) | |
| 09:40 | hi mtompset | |
| 09:40 | mtompset | bug 5515 |
| 09:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5515 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Leading 'and' in search never returns a result |
| 09:40 | mtompset | Just hit this one. |
| 09:41 | cait | C4::Search.pm-- |
| 09:42 | mtompset | QueryAutoTruncate changes the problem. :) |
| 09:43 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ug.cgi?id=5515#c1 |
| 09:43 | huginn | 04Bug 5515: major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Leading 'and' in search never returns a result |
| 09:43 | rangi | theres the fix |
| 09:48 | mtompset | Not really a fix... more like a band-aid. I think Galen's comment about deciding a better grammar, or having something configurable related to it, would be better. |
| 09:49 | Also, it would have been nice to have a patch attached. ;) | |
| 09:51 | rangi | attach one |
| 09:51 | cait | you can always write one |
| 09:51 | rangi | switching the and to +++ will work fine |
| 09:52 | slef | wahanui: enh? |
| 09:52 | wahanui | wish i knew, slef |
| 09:52 | slef | hi all |
| 09:52 | wahanui: RFC? | |
| 09:52 | wahanui | slef: no idea |
| 09:52 | slef | wahanui: you suck |
| 09:52 | wahanui | slef: excuse me? |
| 09:52 | slef | wahanui: bug reporting? |
| 09:52 | wahanui | i don't know, slef |
| 09:53 | slef | wahanui: die! |
| 09:53 | wahanui | errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit! |
| 09:54 | mtompset | Okay, okay... I'll do a patch, if I understand the instructions correctly. |
| 09:54 | Hi, slef. | |
| 09:55 | cait | slef: what about teaching the bot before killing it? :) |
| 09:55 | slef | wahanui: enh is enhancement and explained at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow |
| 09:55 | wahanui | OK, slef. |
| 09:56 | slef | wahanui: bug reporting is explained at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]orting_Guidelines |
| 09:56 | wahanui | OK, slef. |
| 09:56 | slef | cait: there is a delay while I look things up |
| 09:56 | wahanui: bug? | |
| 09:56 | wahanui | slef: wish i knew |
| 09:56 | slef | wahanui: you amnesiac bot you |
| 09:56 | wahanui | slef: huh? |
| 09:57 | cait | lol |
| 09:57 | slef? | |
| 09:57 | wahanui | rumour has it slef is not at home so please email kohacon12 AT software.coop instead |
| 09:57 | rangi | bug reporting? |
| 09:57 | wahanui | i think bug reporting is explained at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]orting_Guidelines |
| 09:58 | drojf | with >250 voting reno #1 i expect a nicely crowded kohacon 2013 |
| 09:58 | cait | yep |
| 09:58 | rangi | yep |
| 09:58 | cait | they better show all up |
| 09:58 | mtompset | bugs is probably short for bug reports. |
| 09:58 | bugs? | |
| 09:58 | wahanui | it has been said that bugs is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org. Please fix any bugs you find. :) or reporting them is helpful, too. |
| 09:58 | mtompset | bug reports? |
| 09:59 | poor not-so-human bot. | |
| 09:59 | slef | wahanui: forget slef |
| 09:59 | wahanui | slef: I forgot slef |
| 09:59 | mtompset | forget myself |
| 09:59 | wahanui: forget myself | |
| 09:59 | wahanui | mtompset, I didn't have anything matching myself |
| 09:59 | slef | wahanui: slef is probably busy so please use http://www.software.coop/contact/ if you need him for work |
| 09:59 | wahanui | OK, slef. |
| 10:00 | slef | oh is kohacon voting open? |
| 10:00 | mtompset | It has been for a while. |
| 10:00 | drojf | slef: where have you been the last 2 weeks? |
| 10:00 | rangi | its just about to finish |
| 10:01 | slef | drojf: in a maze of lawyers, all different. |
| 10:01 | wahanui: kohacon? | |
| 10:01 | wahanui | slef: i don't know |
| 10:01 | slef | wahanui: kohacon13? |
| 10:01 | wahanui | i heard kohacon13 was http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]osals_for_hosting |
| 10:01 | drojf | slef: eew :( |
| 10:01 | slef | drojf: today I move the co-op :-/ |
| 10:01 | mtompset | Not that I need to know, but did you go into the maze willingly? |
| 10:02 | slef | mtompset: no-one sane ever goes into that maze willingly |
| 10:02 | drojf | slef: ouch. that sounds like trouble |
| 10:02 | slef | drojf: we'll see. I'm hoping we have it down to a fine art now, this being its third move. |
| 10:03 | drojf | ok you are trained well then :) |
| 10:03 | cait | where are you moving it to? |
| 10:04 | mtompset | virtual move or literal move? and why were lawyers involved? |
| 10:04 | cait | now you made us all curious :) |
| 10:05 | mtompset | I am not a monkey, cait. :P |
| 10:05 | cait | hm is your name george? |
| 10:05 | mtompset | No. But you did get my reference. :) |
| 10:06 | cait | yay |
| 10:06 | for a moment I wondered if I did | |
| 10:06 | slef | cait: London. |
| 10:06 | mtompset: literal. Virtual will remain the same. | |
| 10:06 | cait | hm london at least sounds nice when you get asked where the coop is .) |
| 10:06 | but I doubt that was the reason for moving it | |
| 10:07 | mtompset | Yes, I suspect the lawyers were part of the maze of reasons. |
| 10:07 | slef | partly... mainly because I am moving too and cannot take the co-op to my next location |
| 10:07 | (thanks to the lawyers) | |
| 10:08 | England is funny. Some places can be used as company homes, others cannot. | |
| 10:10 | cait | that sounds funny |
| 10:10 | drojf | yes we have that too, you are not allowed to have business registered in strictly residential areas. |
| 10:10 | or something | |
| 10:11 | eythian | It's like SimCity |
| 10:11 | cait | lol |
| 10:11 | I was thinking about that too | |
| 10:11 | drojf | yes! |
| 10:11 | cait | yellow was industry, right? |
| 10:11 | and blue... commercial and green residential? | |
| 10:12 | eythian | I last played it in black and white, I don't remember. |
| 10:13 | cait | oh |
| 10:13 | my last was simcity 2000 | |
| 10:13 | drojf | i played it back when it was carved in stone |
| 10:13 | slef | zoning cannot prevent business registration here, but some property contracts do. |
| 10:13 | cait | drojf: you are not that old! |
| 10:13 | drojf | :) |
| 10:15 | hm. i started drawing an ascii commercial zone for slef to put his co-op in. but then i realised it has no power and i would have to decide what kind of power plant to build so he can work there. i better stop | |
| 10:17 | * slef | laughs at drojf |
| 10:17 | cait | lol |
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| 10:18 | mtompset | irc-logs? |
| 10:18 | irc logs? | |
| 10:18 | wahanui | irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 10:22 | mtompset | So, if you can't take it to your next location, where will the co-op be? |
| 10:22 | cait | don't forget to build the underground things |
| 10:22 | sewers? | |
| 10:23 | mtompset | Sewer, sanitation plants? |
| 10:24 | Can't remember when the last time I play sim city was, but I remember thinking sim city 2000 was bad. | |
| 10:25 | cait_train | I only ever played that version |
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| 10:36 | slef | people wonder why I get annoyed with co-ops hiring bad web developers and then I see things like http://i.imgur.com/NXBPP.jpg ;-) |
| 10:37 | mtompset: the co-op is going to an office in London | |
| 10:39 | cait_train | configuring koha from a train is sloow. |
| 10:40 | mtompset | Are you going to be in London? |
| 10:40 | Now, now... not all co-ops are that incompetent. | |
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| 10:45 | mtompset | rangi, are you still here? I'm curious as to why you said +++, not just just leave it as +? |
| 10:45 | cait_train | C++ |
| 10:45 | rangi | exactly |
| 10:45 | or something + something | |
| 10:45 | that could be a title | |
| 10:46 | cait_train | it certainly is a tile |
| 10:46 | mtompset | Okay, so + is bad, because it could be a title (or author, etc.) |
| 10:46 | cait_train | somewhere |
| 10:47 | mtompset | be IN a title. |
| 10:47 | rangi | yep |
| 10:47 | ++ is in a title too | |
| 10:47 | mtompset | \/+/? |
| 10:47 | rangi | it could be ++++++++++++++++ |
| 10:47 | cait_train | \+ ? |
| 10:47 | rangi | its only used internally |
| 10:47 | cait_train | ah |
| 10:47 | why not use the unicode snowman? | |
| 10:47 | mtompset | I was trying to say /+/ |
| 10:47 | cait_train | okok |
| 10:48 | rangi | its for ccl.properties cait |
| 10:48 | cait_train | ah |
| 10:48 | rangi | you could try that |
| 10:48 | mtompset | Well, the point was similar changes are needed for ! and | |
| 10:48 | rangi | yes |
| 10:48 | mtompset | Because I doubt /+/ is in a title. |
| 10:49 | rangi | sure but that doesnt really mattter |
| 10:49 | it could be this is never in a title clown fish magoo cheese @*@y42742 | |
| 10:50 | the actual string doesnt matter, you just have to change the search code to match | |
| 10:50 | cait_train | clown fish? :) |
| 10:50 | rangi | id most likely just do it for Koha::SearchEngine::Zebra |
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| 10:53 | rangi | you should get a real irc client sometime:) |
| 10:53 | mtompset | ARG! Weather is playing havoc with my net connection. |
| 10:53 | * rangi | goes to bed |
| 10:53 | mtompset | I don't want to keep installing things on my computer. |
| 10:53 | This widget is just fine. :) | |
| 10:57 | cait_train | hm a real irc client has real advantags |
| 11:01 | jcamins_away | rangi++ |
| 11:01 | mtompset | Now I know why you didn't want to patch it. It's not a quick patch. :P |
| 11:02 | cait_train | we sent you a cursed labyrinth of doom... sorry |
| 11:02 | hi jcamins :) | |
| 11:03 | jcamins | Good morning. |
| 11:03 | C4::Search? | |
| 11:03 | wahanui | rumour has it C4::Search is calling C4::XSLT |
| 11:03 | jcamins | forget C4::Search |
| 11:03 | wahanui | jcamins: I forgot c4::search |
| 11:04 | jcamins | C4::Search is a mazy of twisty passages, all alike, patrolled by an army of grues |
| 11:04 | C4::Search? | |
| 11:04 | wahanui | it has been said that C4::Search is a mazy of twisty passages, all alike, patrolled by an army of grues |
| 11:06 | mtompset | Well, I think I'll abandon hope and run. :P |
| 11:07 | I thought we were axing NoZebra code? | |
| 11:07 | jcamins | We are. |
| 11:07 | Eventually. | |
| 11:07 | mtompset | Maybe I'll wait until someone else does that. ;) |
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| 11:12 | cait_train | mtompset: we are also using that with zebra... |
| 11:12 | wahanui | okay, cait_train. |
| 11:15 | mtompset | we? |
| 11:15 | wahanui | we are very happy 3.6.3 users now or using that with zebra... |
| 11:16 | mtompset | wahanui: forget we |
| 11:16 | wahanui | mtompset: I forgot we |
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| 11:17 | eythian | wahanui: mtompset |
| 11:17 | wahanui | mtompset is a human being in the Philippines, and is having musical flashbacks. |
| 11:18 | mtompset | no musical flashbacks today. |
| 11:18 | slef | I think our kohacon12 hosting budget now forecasts a £250 loss... was a £100 profit before... we'll see where that ends up once more of the bills come in. |
| 11:18 | cait_train | :( |
| 11:19 | slef | only 2/3rds of suppliers (by £) have billed us so far, so it's far from certain |
| 11:19 | mtompset | Yikes... who pays the bills if they are outstanding? |
| 11:19 | slef | mtompset: the co-op, but expect us to pass the begging bowl around as we've already sunk a lot of resources into it :-/ |
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| 11:20 | slef | but I'd suggest people wait for now, at least until U of Ed bills us. |
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| 11:20 | slef | or rather Ed Uni SA |
| 11:21 | drojf | erm. jcamins: i don't get results for the pqf search that you posted anymore. i wonder if i entered that in a wrong opac window |
| 11:21 | slef | or both |
| 11:21 | not massively sure who is billing us for drinks... that's the big one | |
| 11:21 | or the big unknown | |
| 11:21 | ho hum | |
| 11:22 | drojf | or i broke even more |
| 11:22 | jcamins | drojf: I'm betting you did. |
| 11:22 | drojf | i think i'll burn that thing |
| 11:22 | jcamins: possible, too many koha instances flying around here | |
| 11:22 | jcamins | Unfortunately, I don't actually know what that means. |
| 11:22 | drojf | heh :) |
| 11:22 | jcamins | I just know that a sizable percentage of Koha instances in the wild have broken indexes. |
| 11:23 | And that query is the one that fails. | |
| 11:23 | drojf | wrid |
| 11:23 | mtompset | What's the query? |
| 11:23 | drojf | pqf=@attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 "" |
| 11:23 | mtompset | How do I run that query... just in the opac client? |
| 11:24 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 11:24 | mtompset | What is @attr 2=103? |
| 11:24 | cait_train | for room and catering? |
| 11:25 | jcamins | mtompset: I don't recall, actually. |
| 11:25 | Ah. | |
| 11:25 | AlwaysMatches. | |
| 11:25 | mtompset | “@attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 "" ” returned 39401 results. |
| 11:25 | I guess it ran just fine on ours. :) | |
| 11:26 | Which is amazing, because I was thinking ours would be one of the broken ones. | |
| 11:27 | Are you subscribed to the zebra-list, jcamins? | |
| 11:27 | koha-zebra list? | |
| 11:28 | jcamins | I am not, no. |
| 11:28 | I thought it was defunct. | |
| 11:28 | mtompset | By disabling apache, running a full reindex, and then restarting the koha-zebra daemon, and restarting apache... |
| 11:28 | I was able to get our indexes always working. | |
| 11:29 | jcamins | Hm. I probably should, since apparently it's still used. |
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| 11:31 | mtompset | I posted my experiences and corrections on July 3, so others don't have the same problems. :) |
| 11:31 | jcamins | I saw. Kind of a byzantine process you had to go through. |
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| 11:34 | drojf | yeah it's the nothing is working day again. wasn't that yesterday? |
| 11:35 | mtompset | Is this indexing? |
| 11:36 | nengard | jcamins (or anyone) do you know how to search by biblionumber? what's the ccl - apparently I don't have it in the manual, but I'm pretty sure it's possible |
| 11:36 | jcamins | biblionumber:1234 |
| 11:36 | I think. | |
| 11:37 | drojf: ooh, try that search... does biblionumber:xxx bring up record xxx? | |
| 11:37 | drojf | there is a koha zebra list? |
| 11:37 | jcamins | drojf: yup. |
| 11:37 | nengard | Found it! |
| 11:37 | Local-Number:1234 | |
| 11:37 | jcamins | Ah, Local-Number |
| 11:37 | nengard | oh ? biblionumber works too? |
| 11:37 | mtompset | # Koha Local-Use Biblio Indexes Control-number 1=9001 biblionumber 1=9002 |
| 11:38 | drojf | i thought Local-numer is also "callnum" |
| 11:38 | jcamins | sn |
| 11:38 | Wait, no. | |
| 11:38 | Local-number is call number. | |
| 11:38 | drojf | biblionumber:2 brings up nothing for me |
| 11:38 | mtompset | So ccl.properties wouldn't contain the answer? |
| 11:38 | jcamins | I'm seeing biblionumber |
| 11:38 | mtompset: it does. | |
| 11:38 | mtompset | 9002 |
| 11:38 | nengard | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]earchindexes.html |
| 11:38 | jcamins | mtompset: oh, you already copied the line I was looking for. :) |
| 11:39 | nengard | I'll add biblionumber to that page |
| 11:39 | mtompset | when she said ccl I was looking at the file instantly. |
| 11:40 | Why? because rangi and cait_train sent me into the maze of doom. | |
| 11:40 | jcamins | mtompset: yeah, that's the file I opened up too. |
| 11:40 | mtompset | The change for bug 5515 is EASY in ccl.properties. |
| 11:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5515 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Leading 'and' in search never returns a result |
| 11:40 | mtompset | My problem is figuring out what to change in C4::Search |
| 11:40 | jcamins | nengard: you know that table is a list of indexes, not CCL prefixes, right? |
| 11:41 | mtompset: rewrite the query parser... | |
| 11:41 | nengard | hmmmm |
| 11:41 | but Local-Number worked | |
| 11:41 | mtompset | which one? |
| 11:41 | which part? | |
| 11:41 | wahanui | which part is not right for you |
| 11:41 | jcamins | mtompset: all of it. :( |
| 11:41 | getResults and SimpleSearch | |
| 11:41 | mtompset | Lord help me! NOOOOOOOOO! |
| 11:41 | Actually, part of my reading the code led me to stopwords. | |
| 11:42 | But I don't think that is fully applicable. | |
| 11:42 | jcamins | nengard: there are a lot more prefixes than show up in that list, and many of them are much shorter. |
| 11:42 | nengard | well then maybe I need to transcribe ccl.properties to the manual :) |
| 11:43 | which I was about to do | |
| 11:43 | jcamins | Not a bad idea. |
| 11:43 | nengard | for the librarians who don't go in to the files on the server |
| 11:45 | okay .. i'm not sure how to read this ?. | |
| 11:46 | mtompset | It's a question mark. ;) |
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| 11:46 | mtompset | Sorry, bad joke. |
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| 11:46 | samuel | hi everybody |
| 11:46 | nengard | mtompset :) |
| 11:46 | hi samuel | |
| 11:47 | what does "ne 2=5" mean | |
| 11:47 | is there info above or below that that explains more? | |
| 11:47 | jcamins | not equal |
| 11:47 | bib-1 use attributes? | |
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| 11:47 | jcamins | bib-1 use attributes are http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html |
| 11:47 | bib-1 use attributes? | |
| 11:47 | wahanui | bib-1 use attributes are http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html |
| 11:48 | samuel | Question: in my import,i 've always "error:leader data invalid". How can i correct it? |
| 11:48 | jcamins | samuel: you'll need to edit the records so that the leader has the correct data in the record specification positions. |
| 11:49 | There are two positions where the numeral '2' is required. | |
| 11:51 | samuel | exemple: Record Number: 1 Error: Leader Data invalid. Record Text: 01367nas 2200397 450 |
| 11:51 | our ils give us many problems for export | |
| 11:51 | drojf | is the record size correct? you could try to leave that out |
| 11:52 | jcamins | You are missing a 0 at the end |
| 11:52 | samuel | i don't really know. It's the first time i made an export in iso2709 and the results are very bad |
| 11:53 | Amit_Gupta | bug 8456 |
| 11:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, NEW , Capture the invoice number, price, date of a subscription |
| 11:54 | samuel | http://pastebin.com/G7Kzihik -->to be more precise |
| 11:54 | jcamins | Yeah, missing a zero at the end of the leader, I think. |
| 11:55 | Instead of a character return it should be a 0. | |
| 11:55 | *carriage return | |
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| 11:59 | samuel | could you give me an example? |
| 12:00 | drojf | 01367nas 2200397 4500 |
| 12:01 | samuel | ok, it's clear :-) |
| 12:03 | pastebot | "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "need a bit of help adding an item count to a hold report" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/33 |
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| 12:17 | oleonard | Howdy #koha |
| 12:17 | * cait_train | waves at oleonard |
| 12:23 | mtompset | Greetings, oleonard. |
| 12:33 | Man! I hate finding bugs while trying to read for understanding. | |
| 12:33 | I just found a bug in C4::Search | |
| 12:34 | jcamins | mtompset: just one? |
| 12:34 | paul_p | mtate a bug in C4/Search ? That's unbelievable ! |
| 12:34 | mtompset | Well, one blatantly obvious one. |
| 12:34 | jcamins | Are we laying it on a bit too thick? |
| 12:34 | mtompset | Just a tad. |
| 12:34 | paul_p | tad ??? |
| 12:34 | oleonard | You could carpet a floor in FIXME's from C4/Search |
| 12:34 | mtompset | little. |
| 12:34 | libsysguy | jcamins paul_p LOL |
| 12:35 | mtompset | yes, yes... |
| 12:35 | jcamins | @quote add < oleonard> You could carpet a floor in FIXME's from C4/Search |
| 12:35 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. Quote #210 added. |
| 12:35 | jcamins | @quote get 210 |
| 12:35 | huginn | jcamins: Quote #210: "< oleonard> You could carpet a floor in FIXME's from C4/Search" (added by jcamins at 12:35 PM, July 17, 2012) |
| 12:35 | mtompset | but this actually might be related to my snowball error. |
| 12:35 | slef | @quote add <paul_p> mtate a bug in C4/Search ? That's unbelievable ! |
| 12:35 | huginn | slef: The operation succeeded. Quote #211 added. |
| 12:35 | mtompset | sub _build_stemmed_operand |
| 12:36 | The $stemmed_operand is never initialized. | |
| 12:40 | * paul_p | now head to bugzilla to push some patches... |
| 12:40 | mtompset | What category is C4::Search?? |
| 12:41 | I hate having to decide a category. | |
| 12:43 | oleonard | "Searching" |
| 12:44 | samuel | 01367nas 2200397 4500 > i keep the error (i use marcedit) |
| 12:45 | jcamins | mtompset: searching? |
| 12:45 | wahanui | searching is probably not working |
| 12:45 | jcamins | samuel: convert the records to MARCXML and then convert it back? |
| 12:46 | * oleonard | high-fives wahanui |
| 12:46 | jcamins | Your ILS does not produce valid MARC. |
| 12:46 | I think this is a case of you simply needing to figure out how to fix it. | |
| 12:47 | samuel | yes, that's clear, our ILS is very very old, it doesn't respect valid marc |
| 12:47 | your idea is in a first time convert in marcxml? | |
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| 12:48 | jcamins | samuel: I would try that. Then when you convert it back to MARC, perhaps Marcedit will rewrite the leader. |
| 12:48 | samuel | ok, i try |
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| 12:58 | jcamins | You know what would be nice? A source code analyzer that would tell us when we were clobbering the namespace thanks to lexical scoping. |
| 12:58 | Wait. | |
| 12:58 | Shouldn't -w do that? | |
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| 13:00 | cait | ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, |
| 13:00 | the patron category on patron attributes is not saving for me :( | |
| 13:00 | at all | |
| 13:00 | can someone confirm? | |
| 13:00 | jcamins | There was a bug recently related to set_userenv. |
| 13:00 | Does anyone recall it? | |
| 13:00 | cait | hm more informaton? |
| 13:01 | jcamins | This is the problem... |
| 13:01 | I remember *nothing* about it. | |
| 13:01 | mtompset | but 8434? |
| 13:01 | bug 8434? | |
| 13:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8434 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Notice generation fails for Advanced Notices, Item Due, and Overdues when run in shell (due to error in Letters.pm) |
| 13:01 | jcamins | That's the one, thanks. |
| 13:02 | drojf | mtompset++ # for being able to use a search form |
| 13:02 | mtompset | I just happened to be in bugzilla, because I just entered Bug 8458 |
| 13:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8458 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , $stemmed_operand in C4::Search _build_stemmed_operand is not initialized. |
| 13:03 | * drojf | loads his data into 3.6 and sighs |
| 13:03 | mtompset | why the sign, drojf? |
| 13:03 | paul_p | lol = "If we have data, let’s look at data. If all we have are opinions, let’s go with mine." Jim Barksdale |
| 13:03 | mtompset | Who is Jim Barksdale? |
| 13:04 | cait | ok |
| 13:04 | changing trains a last time... | |
| 13:04 | drojf | mtompset-- # i was wrong |
| 13:05 | samuel | jcamins: i've tested and it gives this XSLT processing error. Error Number: -6 |
| 13:05 | mtompset | HEY! |
| 13:05 | oleonard | drojf: Why the negative karma for mtompset ? |
| 13:05 | jcamins | samuel: ouch. I'm out of suggestions. |
| 13:05 | drojf | :P |
| 13:05 | mtompset | I looked it up. |
| 13:05 | He plus'd me before. | |
| 13:05 | For using a search form. | |
| 13:06 | Then when I didn't google Jim Barksdale, he minus'd me. :P | |
| 13:06 | drojf | just kidding ;) |
| 13:06 | mtompset | but the quote doesn't have a year attached to it. |
| 13:07 | jcamins | samuel: if MarcEdit can't process the record, I don't think there's much you can do with it. |
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| 13:10 | drojf | btw mtompset: you asked for plack on machines with little ram. were my benchmarks helpful for you? |
| 13:11 | mtompset | Dude, negative karma strikes again. :P |
| 13:11 | paul_p | I like this one too : Data matures like wine, applications like fish |
| 13:11 | my source = http://blog.datamarket.com/201[…]best-data-quotes/ | |
| 13:11 | mtompset | Yes, I found the same link. ;) |
| 13:12 | * paul_p | lives in a fish city, in a wine country, maybe that explain :D |
| 13:12 | oleonard | :D |
| 13:12 | * jcamins | is jealous of paul_p's fish and wine locale. |
| 13:12 | jcamins | ;) |
| 13:12 | mtompset | But from the sounds of it, Koha's C4::Search is very much like a rotting fish. |
| 13:13 | jcamins | Very much. |
| 13:13 | samuel | jcamins:yes, what do you advice? |
| 13:13 | mtompset | That is why you suggested rewriting it. ;) |
| 13:14 | jcamins | samuel: I don't know. If you can't open the MARC file, you will need to find another format to export the data in. |
| 13:15 | mtompset | Actually... could you send me that "MARC" file? |
| 13:15 | samuel | i thought to this solution > export in text format and use delimited text translator |
| 13:15 | eythian | paul_p: time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana |
| 13:15 | jcamins | samuel: yeah, that's probably the best option, but you'll have to parse the CSV. |
| 13:16 | samuel | jcamins: ok i convert my text in csv before parsing? |
| 13:17 | jcamins | samuel: what do you mean? You'll have to find some way to produce CSV from your existing ILS, then either use eythian's CSV parsing script or write your own to turn that into MARC records. |
| 13:18 | samuel | it's impossible with our ils. I don't know eythian's csv script |
| 13:19 | mtompset | irc logs? |
| 13:19 | wahanui | irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 13:19 | jcamins | samuel: I don't know what to recommend, then. |
| 13:20 | mtompset | What generated the thing you put in the pastbin, samuel? |
| 13:20 | pastebin. | |
| 13:21 | samuel | it's the errors of my file, it's not 100% valid |
| 13:21 | mtompset | And what generated your file? |
| 13:21 | jcamins | samuel: what ILS did that file come from? |
| 13:22 | mtompset | System, jcamins (could be not quite an ILS).;) |
| 13:22 | samuel | Cadic, a french ils, very very old (more 10 years) |
| 13:23 | jcamins: oups, i'm stupid. I think i could do an export in csv. I'll see | |
| 13:23 | drojf | jcamins: searching for pqf=@attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 "" works. biblionumber: works too. as does Control-number:xxx. but that was also all the case when my problem started. i guess i screwed up more now on the production server. this is everything imported into 3.6 and it's like i first saw the problem. idx=Control-number&q=xxx does not do anything. |
| 13:23 | jcamins | drojf: weird! |
| 13:23 | drojf | and i think i will never ever care |
| 13:24 | and kill the zebra as soon as solr is in reach | |
| 13:24 | opac-search.pl?q=Control-number%3AHUSPZ-2002-02997+or+Record-control-number%3AHUSPZ-2002-02997 does what i did with the index thing before. so i change my custom link. and that's it. i'm out of ideas and spent a million hours on that now | |
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| 13:29 | * cait | waves |
| 13:29 | cait | austrian_railjet++ |
| 13:30 | nicest train ever | |
| 13:30 | eythian | australia doesn't have a railjet |
| 13:30 | oh | |
| 13:32 | cait | hm? :) |
| 13:34 | * drojf | feels possessed by zebra |
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| 13:41 | tcohen | hi #koha |
| 13:41 | * mtompset | smacks drojf, "Be healed!" |
| 13:42 | drojf | i think you have to do that harder ;) |
| 13:43 | * mtompset | smacks the back of drojf's head, "Goof!" |
| 13:44 | tcohen | does anyone have an idea on how an integration between koha a shibboleth shoud be implemented? |
| 13:44 | similar to that with LDAP? | |
| 13:45 | libsysguy | shib is an SSO engine right tcohen |
| 13:45 | eythian | tcohen: rewrite Auth.pm and make it pluggable? (Please?) |
| 13:45 | libsysguy | actually eythian is right :) |
| 13:45 | mtompset | Why is everyone suggesting a rewrite of everything? |
| 13:46 | libsysguy | because it desperately needs it |
| 13:46 | mtompset | First it is me rewrite C4::Search. |
| 13:46 | tcohen | not only a SSO engine, a federeated identity provider too |
| 13:46 | eythian | mtompset: Auth.pm is second to search.pm in terribleness :) |
| 13:46 | mtompset | Tell me about it. |
| 13:46 | libsysguy | tcohen i think it would probably be more similar to CAS |
| 13:46 | mtompset | Actually, tcohen, if you succeed... could you pass me notes. |
| 13:46 | libsysguy | but i could be wrong |
| 13:46 | tcohen | that's right libsysguy |
| 13:46 | eythian | wouldn't a better way be to make soemthing that gateways CAS and shibboleth? |
| 13:46 | mtompset | I've been asked to get SAML 2.0 working. |
| 13:47 | eythian | mtompset: oh we're looking into that too |
| 13:47 | tcohen | the posted patch looks like is only reusing ENV data from a previous login |
| 13:47 | * libsysguy | votes everyone helps him with porting koha to catalyst :p |
| 13:47 | tcohen | so it looks incorrect |
| 13:47 | khall | bug 3387 needs signoff, it's an easy one to test. |
| 13:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3387 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , WITHDRAWN items shouldn't check in |
| 13:48 | mtompset | khall so is bug 8458. ;) |
| 13:48 | libsysguy | so we can rewrite and fix the codebase structure at the same time |
| 13:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8458 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , $stemmed_operand in C4::Search _build_stemmed_operand is not initialized. |
| 13:48 | tcohen | bug 8446 |
| 13:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8446 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Shibboleth authentication patch |
| 13:49 | jcamins | Have I mentioned recently how cool my updated git-bz is? |
| 13:50 | eythian | I don't think you have. |
| 13:50 | jcamins | eythian: IT'S SO COOL!!! |
| 13:50 | libsysguy | yeah nope I haven't heard you bragging about it |
| 13:50 | mtompset | when you say pluggable eythian, you are talking a C4::Auth::{method 1} up to C4::Auth::{method n} all providing a fixed API which C4::Auth calls based on a syspref or something like that? |
| 13:51 | eythian | mtompset: I have no idea |
| 13:51 | just something nicer than it is | |
| 13:51 | libsysguy | mtompset: something like this http://search.cpan.org/~bobtfi[…]Authentication.pm |
| 13:51 | jcamins | eythian: libsysguy: I modified git-bz to allow me to update the status of bugs while git-bzing them. It's very cool. |
| 13:52 | eythian | oh, useful |
| 13:52 | libsysguy | jcamins++ |
| 13:52 | nengard | need a bit of help adding an item count to a hold report http://paste.koha-community.org/33 |
| 13:54 | jcamins | nengard: you need a group by of some sort in order for count to work. |
| 13:54 | nengard | right |
| 13:54 | that's where i'm stuck | |
| 13:55 | i can group by biblionumber i guess - but won't that lose some holds if there are more than one on a bib? | |
| 13:55 | mtompset | nested selects! bwahahahahaha! |
| 13:56 | * libsysguy | hasn't used nested selects since oracle |
| 13:57 | jcamins | I used a subquery just the other day. |
| 13:57 | mtompset | They are evil and slow, but they usually work if you have the memory and patience. :) |
| 13:57 | jcamins | They are less slow than a join that involves the entire database. |
| 13:58 | eythian | also, if you're careful, they don't have to be slow. |
| 13:58 | mtompset | True... why not a subquery that generates the count? It will be identical for the block, but pshaw to that. ;) |
| 13:58 | cait1 | sometimes they can be faster (says my sql book which I believe in) |
| 13:58 | but not sure :) | |
| 13:59 | nengard | hmmmm |
| 13:59 | mtompset | Keyword is SOMETIMES... you don't do a nested subquery with lots of joins. |
| 13:59 | nengard | gonna need to test |
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| 14:05 | jcamins | mtompset: I just reopened bug 8458. |
| 14:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8458 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED , $stemmed_operand in C4::Search _build_stemmed_operand is not initialized. |
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| 14:06 | jcamins | (so you don't bother trying to do it too and getting a "mid-air collision" error) |
| 14:06 | mtompset | Thanks for the follow up comment. |
| 14:06 | jcamins | mtompset: possibly a bit too-detailed an attachment subject. ;) |
| 14:07 | mtompset | Hey, it's a three byte fix. |
| 14:07 | jcamins | And a 60-byte subject. :P |
| 14:08 | mtompset | I was trying to be clear. My conciseness needs work. |
| 14:08 | Clearly, I wasn't. | |
| 14:09 | I was trying to prempt the question why not '' or ""? | |
| 14:09 | jcamins | I got it. |
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| 14:14 | schuster | Question - is there a way now to print "notices" on demand. Say at the end of the month I want to send overdue notices to ALL my patrons as a reminder? |
| 14:16 | paul_p | schuster I don't think so |
| 14:16 | oleonard | cait1: Did you get your patron attributes working? |
| 14:18 | cait1: I tested it and it seemed to be working | |
| 14:18 | cait1 | nope |
| 14:18 | but had problems with internet connection | |
| 14:18 | still on a train... | |
| 14:19 | I can add patron attributes | |
| 14:19 | and I can group them | |
| 14:19 | but I can't save the patron category | |
| 14:22 | jcamins | schuster: it might be possible if you don't use -t, but I'm not sure. |
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| 14:24 | cait1 | oleonard: hmmm can you try something? I have () in the description - could that be causing the problem? |
| 14:24 | oleonard: master or 3.8.x? | |
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| 14:26 | cait1 | intenet is too bad for testing koha on the other server :( |
| 14:29 | mtompset | Have a good day (24 hour period), everyone. |
| 14:29 | * mtompset | waves. |
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| 14:29 | mtompset | jcamins++ |
| 14:30 | Thanks for catching the misunderstanding on my bug. | |
| 14:34 | CharlottevL | I need again help O:-) I know, there are many forums on the internet, but nothing works (sure my fault). Is there some simply way, how to change kohaadmin password? I have already change it in koha-conf.xml , but still don't work... |
| 14:34 | jcamins | CharlottevL: this is the best place to get help. |
| 14:35 | CharlottevL: in order to change the koha administrative user's password, you have to change it in both MySQL *and* koha-conf.xml. | |
| 14:35 | CharlottevL | yes, in MySQL I haven't change it :) I'll try... |
| 14:36 | " sudo mysqladmin -u kohaadmin password “newpassword” -p " give error , "'Access denied; you need the SUPER privilege for this operation'" | |
| 14:36 | :( | |
| 14:37 | jcamins | I don't know how to use mysqladmin. |
| 14:37 | You have to log in to MySQL as root, and change the kohaadmin user's password. | |
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| 14:39 | CharlottevL | what's MySQL root password? Have I set it somewhere? |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | it probably asked you for it when the OS was installed |
| 14:40 | CharlottevL | ok, I have to find, what was the default value... |
| 14:41 | eythian | there's a username/password you can use in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf |
| 14:53 | wizzyrea | you know, it would be nice to be able to specify what info from the bib goes into items.content in the slips |
| 14:53 | replacement cost, for example | |
| 14:53 | since that image of the library receipt has been going around facebook, my libraries are clamoring to have the replacement cost on the slips | |
| 14:54 | oleonard | What image? |
| 14:54 | jcamins | Library receipt image/ |
| 14:54 | *? | |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | https://www.facebook.com/photo[…]148&type=1&ref=nf |
| 14:54 | from acpl, no less ;) | |
| 14:54 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 14:54 | Very nice. | |
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | now, that (I assume) made them think "hey, we should put the ACTUAL cost on there, and tell them how much they saved every time" |
| 14:55 | but god that's a fringe thing to want to do | |
| 14:55 | @quote get 123 | |
| 14:55 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 14:55 | * wizzyrea | nods |
| 14:56 | * jcamins | nods as well. |
| 14:56 | wizzyrea | lol, what do you call that "guilt mode for receipts" |
| 14:56 | or "miser mode" | |
| 14:56 | help me out what's the word I'm looking for | |
| 14:57 | "that self righteous smug feeling you get when you get doubled tripled coupons at the grocery store mode" | |
| 14:57 | jcamins | Hehe. Uhhh... |
| 15:06 | paul_p | french universities using Koha discussing about how to share some SQL queries all french universities must do because they are requested by govt (esgbu) |
| 15:06 | s/discussing/tweeting/ | |
| 15:12 | oleonard | I could have the same discussion with public libraries in Ohio but it would just be us and SMFPL. I think the rest of Ohio is on not-Koha :( |
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| 15:17 | * wizzyrea | could do the same in Kansas |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | but we have lots of libraries and we already have most of the reports |
| 15:17 | most if not all | |
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| 15:25 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:25 | nengard | is there a bug/enhancement to show the volume info on the hold screen in the opac? |
| 15:25 | I could have sworn there was | |
| 15:26 | but my search skills suck today | |
| 15:26 | jcamins | There was... |
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| 15:27 | nengard | bug 8294 |
| 15:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8294 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , enumeration should show in copy specific hold menu |
| 15:27 | nengard | i knew there was - i was the one who submitted it |
| 15:27 | jcamins | Bug 7701? |
| 15:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7701 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, Error when sending serial alerts |
| 15:27 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
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| 15:29 | oleonard | Bye gaetan_B |
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| 15:32 | eythian | someone uses hyper v? |
| 15:33 | drojf | and i m not sure why |
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| 15:33 | eythian | huh, didn't realise that it was a real thing people did |
| 15:33 | I mean, we have libvirt for a reason | |
| 15:35 | drojf | libsysguy: ranting about choices of your employer is not always someting you would want to be in a google-able chatroom's logs |
| 15:36 | libsysguy | haha drojf, forgets about this most of the time |
| 15:36 | but I'm not on the main board too often I guess | |
| 15:36 | * libsysguy | just lurks |
| 15:40 | pastebot | "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "further help on that report to show count of items" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/34 |
| 15:50 | CharlottevL | yahoo! thank you very much!!! |
| 15:56 | * slef | has a fun discussion with someone about a government web site requiring people pass an eyetest before they can report a crime... again... |
| 15:56 | drojf | slef: the uk is always one step ahead |
| 15:57 | jcamins | Well, darn. |
| 15:57 | Chrome crashes when I do a search in the OPAC. | |
| 15:57 | oleonard | Ooh, fun! |
| 15:57 | * oleonard | tries |
| 15:57 | drojf | jcamins: zebra crashes when i look at it :P |
| 15:57 | slef | drojf: where are we going and what am I doing in this handbasket? |
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| 15:58 | * jcamins | checks whether it was his patch. |
| 15:58 | oleonard | No crash here |
| 15:58 | * jcamins | disables "EnableOPACSearchHistory," tries again. |
| 15:59 | jcamins | Yeah, that's the problem. |
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| 16:00 | cait-m__ | so its still broken? |
| 16:00 | with the new patch? | |
| 16:00 | wizzyrea | hm i'm not getting search things on current master either |
| 16:00 | crashes | |
| 16:00 | jcamins | Seems to be broken, yes. |
| 16:00 | wizzyrea | inc hrome |
| 16:00 | in chrome | |
| 16:00 | oleonard | Oh yeah, nice crash there. |
| 16:01 | jcamins | Well, broken for me, anyway. |
| 16:02 | I guess the thing to do is enable it, download the page with something that doesn't try to render the page, then disable it, download the page again, and do a diff. | |
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| 16:06 | jcamins | So it's not broken for anyone but me? |
| 16:07 | oleonard | jcamins: You mean in master? It crashes Chrome for me too in master |
| 16:08 | jcamins | Oh, it does. |
| 16:08 | Okay. | |
| 16:08 | So, not just me. | |
| 16:08 | oleonard | I assume this is the same as the "unresponsive script" thing in Firefox |
| 16:09 | jcamins | I guess, though I switched to Chrome because it was less likely to have issues with that. |
| 16:11 | Weird. | |
| 16:11 | With the search history enabled, the query is completely rewritten. | |
| 16:12 | Okay, mystery solved. | |
| 16:12 | It adds a space to the end of the query string. | |
| 16:12 | How or where I don't know, but that's what is breaking it. | |
| 16:13 | * drojf | does not understand a word |
| 16:14 | oleonard | Why is the query rewritten? |
| 16:14 | jcamins | oleonard: no idea. |
| 16:14 | wizzyrea | yea it was broken for me too |
| 16:18 | * jcamins | updated the bugs. |
| 16:19 | jcamins | paul_p: updated bugs 5981 and 8381. |
| 16:20 | paul_p | bug 5981 |
| 16:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5981 blocker, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, REOPENED , OPAC: Add limits to search history |
| 16:20 | paul_p | :\ |
| 16:20 | bug 8381 | |
| 16:20 | wahanui | i think bug 8381 is fixed (i hope). And it should fix the freezing problem too. And you're the one (with me) that can test |
| 16:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8381 blocker, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, In Discussion , Paging broken in OPAC search results |
| 16:20 | jcamins | It must be an interaction between the two, since testing either apparently worked. |
| 16:28 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7729' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]826b5af1cdb6daaa4> / Bug 7729 : svc/new_bib: support ?items=1 to add POSTed items to the new biblio too <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]42e3317664104a2b9> / Bug 8422 - Fix impossible warning in circulation.pl when OverduesBlockCirc |
| 16:34 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #787 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 13 days ago) |
| 16:38 | oleonard | Idea: the option to add a note to a patron's account when canceling a hold from the staff client |
| 16:41 | wizzyrea | i like it |
| 16:59 | * oleonard | is failing many patches today, swears it's nothing personal |
| 17:00 | jcamins | +1 for "Related media." |
| 17:01 | slef | oleonard: having a bad day and paying back, right? |
| 17:01 | oleonard | I'm a vindictive tyrant slef, as anyone can tell you |
| 17:04 | * oleonard | signed off on Bug 8421, must've been bribed |
| 17:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8421 minor, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Signed Off , patron images fail when barcode for patron has a + |
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| 17:24 | * jcamins | learns to use git add -p |
| 17:27 | oleonard | Whassat jcamins ? |
| 17:29 | jcamins | oleonard: for adding just *part* of the changes to a file to a commit. |
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| 17:37 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #787: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/787/ |
| 17:37 | * alex.arnaud: Bug 8381 - Paging broken in OPAC search results | |
| 17:37 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 8381: Fix adding limits to search history for logged in users | |
| 17:37 | * oleonard: Bug 8398 - Missing image file in staff global css | |
| 17:37 | * jcamins: Bug 8386: Error in duplicate detection message for authorities | |
| 17:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8381 blocker, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, In Discussion , Paging broken in OPAC search results |
| 17:37 | jenkins_koha | * jcamins: Bug 6720: Display the authority type in OPAC |
| 17:37 | * jcamins: Bug 6720 follow-up: use authtypetext instead of summary | |
| 17:37 | * dcook: Bug 8422 - Fix impossible warning in circulation.pl when OverduesBlockCirc set to Block | |
| 17:37 | * mjr: Bug 7729 : svc/new_bib: support ?items=1 to add POSTed items to the new biblio too | |
| 17:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8398 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Missing image file in staff global css |
| 17:37 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8386 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Error in duplicate detection message for authorities | |
| 17:37 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6720 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Saved authorities always show as 'Default' | |
| 17:37 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8422 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Fix impossible warning in circulation.pl when OverduesBlockCirc set to Block | |
| 17:37 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , svc API should allow modification of items | |
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| 17:43 | martian523 | hi |
| 17:44 | i'm trying to get items from reservoir into the actual database | |
| 17:44 | how do i do that? | |
| 17:51 | slef | martian523: either manage staged marc records, or Add new MARC record and use the z39.50 search, but I'm not in a place where I can tell you exactly right now (phone internet only) |
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| 17:58 | slef | martian523: either manage staged marc records, or Add new MARC record and use the z39.50 search, but I'm not in a place where I can tell you exactly right now (phone internet only) |
| 18:01 | martian523 | Hi, I have a problem with transferring items from reservoir to actual catalog |
| 18:01 | jcamins | martian523: you will need to provide details about why slef's suggestions didn't work. |
| 18:16 | oleonard++ | |
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| 18:37 | oleonard | Whoa. |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea | wow. |
| 18:40 | surprised that libsysguy got it and I didn't. Must not be geographic | |
| 18:41 | surprised that oleonard got d/c too, and i didn't. how weird. | |
| 18:42 | jcamins | wizzyrea: libsysguy logged out earlier because he is at class. |
| 18:42 | wizzyrea | ah right, but the rest. |
| 18:54 | jcamins | clrh: when you get a chance, it would be really useful if you updated the instructions for setting up solr on the wiki. Particularly the part on dependencies, which I guess have changed. |
| 18:54 | (no rush; I just edited 00-load.t to not bail out so that tests function on master, so I'm able to keep going with what I'm working on:) | |
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| 19:01 | jcamins | @later tell kyleh I lost your signoff on bug 5079 when I changed the author- for some reason it listed Ian instead of Elliott. |
| 19:01 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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| 19:12 | cait-m__ | hi |
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| 19:34 | cait1 | hi #koha |
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| 19:51 | * oleonard | wonders why BorrowerMandatoryFields even comes into play with Bug 8392 |
| 19:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8392 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Needs Signoff , Memberentry is not enforcing birthdate restrictions |
| 19:53 | oleonard | I guess if you want to enforce the limit you have to make sure the field is populated. |
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| 20:08 | Adv_search | Hello all, I have recently upgraded to 3.6. I cannot get any results when doing an advanced search by 'location'. Anyone seen this? |
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| 20:28 | libsysguy | Adv_search I haven't seen that but you might try verifying that zebra is running and indexed correctly |
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