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| 01:03 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #52 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 01:53 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #52: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/52/ |
| 01:53 | * dpavlin: Bug 8178 - circ/circulation.pl under plack duplicates checkout rows | |
| 01:53 | * sophie.meynieux: Bug 7815 : Order pickup libraries list by name rather than by code | |
| 01:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , circ/circulation.pl under plack duplicates checkout rows |
| 01:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7815 minor, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Order pickup library list by name rather than by code | |
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| 02:43 | Waylon | hiya all. the /tmp/sessionlog file, whats it used for? for a 2 server cluster, does /tmp/sessionlog need to be shared, in order for koha to work correctly? |
| 02:57 | wajasu | The file /tmp/sessionlog contains login and out details. i don't know about how to set up a cluster. Maybe if you have load balancing infront of the koha servers, with session affinity, its ok to use separate ones. |
| 02:58 | Waylon | session affinity? |
| 02:58 | * Waylon | is replicating the mysql db |
| 02:59 | Waylon | so.. should sync the sessionlog file too? |
| 02:59 | bag | evening |
| 02:59 | wajasu | somehow, the load balanger/gateway is configured to use something like the user cookie, to determine where the users is working, and routing the reuests to the same server. in that case, the /tmp/sessionlog should be ok. |
| 03:01 | Waylon | but if thats not true, that each request is evaluated and sent to the current lowest cpu usage, id need to share the sessionlog? |
| 03:03 | wajasu | correct. but two servers sharing with some sort of file locking/coordination would be in order. i haven't looked at the koha code. maybe if you google koha cluster, you can find a docutmented setup. |
| 03:04 | * Waylon | is using glusterfsd |
| 03:10 | wajasu | i thought there was a session table in the database. so if thats shared, maybe your auth is ok. |
| 03:10 | Waylon | yeah, there is a session table in database |
| 03:10 | so why do we have sessionlog? | |
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| 06:00 | mtj | Waylon: are you sure the session-log file is related to Koha? |
| 06:05 | oops, looks like it is, sorry... :) | |
| 06:07 | Waylo,n fyi: /tmp/sessionlog looks safe, its only ever written too... | |
| 06:08 | so, worst case, the session log might be goofy for a multi-koha server | |
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| 06:21 | francharb | moring |
| 06:21 | morning | |
| 06:32 | alex_a | bonjour koha |
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| 06:48 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #53 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 06:52 | julian_m | hello |
| 06:52 | wahanui | hi, julian_m |
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| 06:53 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:53 | wahanui | salut, reiveune |
| 06:53 | cait | hi all :) |
| 06:57 | matts | hi ! |
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| 06:59 | cait | hi matts :) how are your kittens? glad to have you back or pouting? :) |
| 06:59 | Joubu | hi all |
| 06:59 | matts | they weren't pouting at all ! They were all purrrrrrr |
| 06:59 | cait | lucky :) |
| 06:59 | hi Joubu! | |
| 06:59 | matts | yay :) |
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| 07:09 | gaetan_B | bonjour #koha |
| 07:11 | cait | hi gaetan_B :) |
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| 07:27 | mona | in 2.9 version we can n`t fill parameter properly please help me how to fill |
| 07:34 | mtj | mona: koha.2.9 is veeeey old, why not use koha.3? |
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| 07:37 | cait | mona: mtj is right - we will not be able to help you with this version I fear :( I personally have never seen or used it |
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| 07:40 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #53: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/53/ |
| 07:40 | * paul.poulain: Adding Shari Perkins as contributor | |
| 07:40 | * Chris Cormack: Fixing tabs in docs/history.txt | |
| 07:40 | * amit.gupta: Bug 8166 - Adding new currencies & exchange rates | |
| 07:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8166 minor, P1 - high, ---, amit.gupta, Pushed to Stable , Adding new currencies & exchange rates if not fill any field it save blank record |
| 07:40 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #54 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 07:48 | drojf | good morning #koha |
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| 08:10 | cait | morning drojf :) |
| 08:11 | drojf | moin cait :) |
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| 08:30 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #54: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/54/ |
| 08:30 | * f.demians: Bug 4838 Fix repeated authorities selection | |
| 08:30 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 8201: Receive date not passed through correctly | |
| 08:30 | * oleonard: Bug 8171 - Improper escaping of quotes during z39.50 queries leads to broken html | |
| 08:30 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 7941 : Fix version numbers in modules | |
| 08:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4838 normal, P3, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , Repeated authority headings break biblio record data entry form |
| 08:30 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 7941 : Module versions bumped pre release |
| 08:30 | * koha.sekjal: Bug 7444: Update circ/circulation.pl to use KohaDates TT Plugin | |
| 08:30 | * dpavlin: Bug 7810 - C4/Auth.pm - on plack restart session is undefined | |
| 08:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8201 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , can't change receive date |
| 08:30 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8171 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Improper escaping of quotes during z39.50 queries leads to broken html | |
| 08:30 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7941 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , Fix version numbers in modules and set up a system to keep them up to date | |
| 08:30 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7444 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Use T::T date plugin to display dates omnibus | |
| 08:30 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7810 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , C4/Auth.pm - on plack restart session is undefined | |
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| 08:32 | cait | drojf: how is being back? |
| 08:34 | drojf | alright, but i spent most of it in bed. have to leave for the other office soon, don't really feel like that |
| 08:34 | have you adjusted to germany already? | |
| 08:52 | Waylon | mtj, its not a multi-koha server, its a multi-server koha |
| 08:54 | cait | drojf: not really.. at least started unpacking now |
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| 09:07 | * drojf | detects a lack of full scottish breakfast |
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| 09:16 | cait | clrh++ :) |
| 09:19 | clrh | cait: again? :) |
| 09:19 | cait | you deserve lots :) |
| 09:19 | for the nice writeups on the wiki and ansering mailing list mails :) | |
| 09:20 | clrh | thanks but then thanks to my team a lot too ;) |
| 09:20 | cait | :) |
| 09:31 | * magnuse | waves |
| 09:38 | drojf | hi magnuse |
| 09:38 | magnuse | kia ora drojf |
| 09:40 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
| 09:41 | magnuse | guten tag cait |
| 09:41 | cait | god dag :) |
| 09:41 | magnuse | :-) |
| 09:49 | mveron | Hi everybody |
| 09:50 | cait | hi mveron :) |
| 09:50 | * mveron | waves to cait |
| 09:50 | mveron | gmcharlt: I'd like to update the Wiki regarding Bug 7621, but I do not get a confirmation mail for my account. |
| 09:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7621 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, veron, Signed Off , Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories |
| 09:51 | mveron | gmcharlt: I've been told that you can approve my account manually? |
| 09:51 | drojf | hi mveron |
| 09:52 | * mveron | waves to drojf |
| 09:52 | mveron | ..drojf. Shoud put my glasses |
| 09:53 | drojf | mveron: did you have a good trip home? |
| 09:53 | mveron | Yes, I had, but I was very tired... |
| 09:53 | drojf | i can imagine that. i was, and i had to get up much later |
| 09:54 | off to the non-koha office. have a nice day everybody | |
| 09:55 | * mveron | will fetch some couscous with tomato, feta and olives out of his dish washer |
| 09:55 | drojf | :D |
| 09:56 | mveron | True! :-) |
| 09:56 | drojf | mveron++ # special cooking |
| 09:56 | mveron | Thanks. Dischwasher cooking is spreading all around the world |
| 09:58 | cait | mveron: that's the magic of koha :) |
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| 10:12 | matts | hey #koha, here are the pics i've taken (and gathered) from kohacon12 : http://pub.veggie.fr/biblibre/pics |
| 10:24 | magnuse | yay! |
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| 10:35 | kyleh | just submitted a new patch for bug 8043, needs signoff it anyone is interested. Really simple to test. |
| 10:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8043 normal, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , today's checkouts are in Previous checkouts in circulation.pl |
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| 11:04 | * mveron | On the way to weekly Koha meeting |
| 11:07 | kyleh joined #koha | |
| 11:07 | kyleh | just testing |
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| 11:24 | libsysguy | so with all the tld's for sale has anybody considered buying .koha for whatever ICANN has them priced at? |
| 11:24 | neo_ joined #koha | |
| 11:24 | libsysguy | i think it is like $25,000 upfront |
| 11:24 | plus some crazy yearly fee | |
| 11:25 | neo_ | hi |
| 11:25 | cait | imgine would dev we could get done for that prize |
| 11:25 | ;) | |
| 11:25 | hi neo_ | |
| 11:25 | libsysguy | haha cait |
| 11:26 | we could sell the domains off to libraries to make some of the money back :p | |
| 11:26 | uttyler.koha | |
| 11:26 | cait.koha | |
| 11:26 | neo_ | cait, make test , fails for MARC-XML-0.93 |
| 11:26 | cait, any idea ? | |
| 11:26 | drojf | koha.koha |
| 11:27 | cait | libsysguy: libaries are not exactly known to have lots of money to spare ;) |
| 11:27 | libsysguy | mind = blown |
| 11:27 | cait | true.koha |
| 11:27 | drojf | koha-community.koha after some fork takes koha.koha :D |
| 11:27 | libsysguy | *whistles* |
| 11:27 | cait | neo_: fist question? |
| 11:27 | first question? | |
| 11:27 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
| 11:28 | jcamins_away | Don't use CPAN. |
| 11:28 | libsysguy | this ^^ |
| 11:29 | * libsysguy | has his prod server beyond messed up because he used cpan unknowingly |
| 11:29 | neo_ | cait, i was compiling MARC-XML perl module |
| 11:29 | libsysguy | sure its sooo easy cpan *package name* |
| 11:29 | but updates are terrible | |
| 11:29 | * Waylon | managed to get koha running on a two server replicated setup. glusterfsd sharing koha directory, MySQL::Replication sharing data. humming along very nicely. |
| 11:29 | neo_ | make works fine |
| 11:29 | cait | neo_: yes, but why :) which os are you using? which versoin of Koha are you installing? |
| 11:29 | neo_ | but make test fails |
| 11:29 | cait | and out of interest - where are you located? :) |
| 11:29 | Waylon | oh.. and zebrasrv lib shared too. |
| 11:29 | neo_ | CentOS 6.2 |
| 11:30 | libsysguy | oh CentOS might explain your problem |
| 11:30 | jcamins | neo_: ah, you should seriously consider using Debian. |
| 11:30 | neo_ | cait, i am now in Kigali, Rwanda |
| 11:30 | libsysguy | I tried a centos install once |
| 11:30 | never again | |
| 11:30 | cait | if you can it will make your life tons easier |
| 11:30 | Waylon | but using it as read only, im reindexing on a server, then copying the resulting set to the glusterfsd and then restarting zebra. yeah, Debian 100% easier |
| 11:30 | cait | to use debian or ubuntu |
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| 11:31 | jcamins | I don't think anyone has successfully gotten Koha to work on CentOS. |
| 11:31 | libsysguy | koha on centos…not even once |
| 11:31 | Waylon | Uh.... my employer had koha on centos working. admittedly its 3.0.1pre2 |
| 11:31 | neo_ | can i go with the perl module install , by skipping make test ? |
| 11:32 | for MARC-XML ? | |
| 11:32 | libsysguy | is there a yum package for that package? |
| 11:32 | neo_ | no libsysguy |
| 11:32 | libsysguy | ouch |
| 11:32 | neo_ | i am packing it as a rpm |
| 11:32 | jcamins | neo_: you can try. As you've heard, no one has used it. |
| 11:32 | libsysguy | does it say why it failed |
| 11:32 | neo_ | downloaded from cpan |
| 11:32 | libsysguy | yeah, you can try, but you are likely to have a bad time |
| 11:33 | jcamins | Waylon: 3.0 had fewer dependencies, I think. |
| 11:33 | * Waylon | nods. |
| 11:33 | Waylon | we'll upgrade and report our changes eventually. |
| 11:33 | cait | matts: your url does not work for me :( |
| 11:33 | matts | really ? |
| 11:34 | what's the output ? | |
| 11:34 | cait | now it does |
| 11:34 | it was down a bit earlier... | |
| 11:34 | libsysguy | http://cdn.memegenerator.net/i[…]400x/22023846.jpg |
| 11:34 | cait | sorry for bothering you :) |
| 11:35 | jcamins | libsysguy: hehe. |
| 11:35 | matts | hmm, new subdomain... might have taken some time to reach all dns servers |
| 11:36 | cait | eek - you got photos of me!! |
| 11:36 | libsysguy | haha |
| 11:36 | who did? | |
| 11:36 | magnuse | photos_of_cait++ |
| 11:36 | cait | hmpf |
| 11:36 | * libsysguy | has never seen cait |
| 11:37 | libsysguy | cait you don't even have a photo on your G+ profile :p |
| 11:37 | cait | there are reasons |
| 11:37 | libsysguy | :-\ |
| 11:37 | magnuse | cait likes to be mysterious :-) |
| 11:37 | libsysguy | cait is the ghost of Koha |
| 11:37 | cait | I always look dumb on photos |
| 11:38 | libsysguy | well then just put on some glasses |
| 11:39 | neo_ | this the error for MARC-XML make test - http://paste.koha-community.org/450 |
| 11:40 | anybody have an idea ? | |
| 11:41 | cait | try and find me :) |
| 11:42 | jcamins | neo_: I have no idea how to fix it, but that looks like a pretty major problem, sorry. |
| 11:42 | cait: you look just fine in the group shot. | |
| 11:43 | libsysguy | neo_ im with jcamins |
| 11:43 | cait | aaw |
| 11:43 | * magnuse | agrees with jcamins, of course |
| 11:43 | cait | thx |
| 11:43 | neo_ | jcamins, can i go ahead with koha installation by skipping MARC-XML make test |
| 11:44 | jcamins | neo_: you can try, but I would expect lots of problems. |
| 11:44 | Argh! | |
| 11:45 | I forgot to sign off when cherry picking. | |
| 11:45 | Again. | |
| 11:45 | neo_ | is this a major module for Koha ? |
| 11:45 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 11:46 | magnuse | jcamins++ for being human, after all :-) |
| 11:46 | jcamins | I don't think there is any page that doesn't use MARC::File::XML. |
| 11:47 | neo_ | thank you jcamins |
| 11:47 | jcamins | magnuse: thanks. |
| 11:47 | neo_ | i will try in channel - perl of freenode.net |
| 11:51 | Waylon | neo_: MARC::File::XML is used for C4->context for config information parsing, which happens in basically every page. |
| 11:52 | Its also used to phrase MARCxml in biblioitems yes? | |
| 11:52 | jcamins | Waylon: yep. |
| 11:52 | You know, the version field in Bugzilla does not work for me. | |
| 11:53 | Waylon | hmm.. bugzilla has a bug? |
| 11:53 | * Waylon | giggles. |
| 11:53 | neo_ | Waylon, i have installed koha in a test machine, and koha loads in webpage , now i am trying to install in a production server, so i need to make sure this is not a major issue |
| 11:54 | Waylon | sorry, just ... couldn't resist. Anyways. I should document my setup sometime and post it in koha devel mailing list eh? |
| 11:54 | jcamins | Waylon: I mean, it functions properly. |
| 11:54 | Yes please! | |
| 11:54 | Waylon: however, as RMaint for 3.6.x, all the version field does is irritate me. | |
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| 11:54 | Waylon | hiya mtj. |
| 11:55 | neo_, its a major issue. | |
| 11:55 | not having MARC::File::XML installed and working correctly is a show stopper. | |
| 11:56 | I believe i had that problem in Centos. | |
| 11:56 | neo_ | no i have installed bypassing MARC-XML make test , by make -i test |
| 11:56 | Waylon | So we moved to debian, and got a great koha guy to do the initial install, of which i have screen logs somewhere. |
| 11:57 | * Waylon | sighs. "neo_....... you just broke your system" |
| 11:57 | nengard | can I get another sign off on bug 8043 - this is one that has been pissing a lot of people off and would love to see it in 3.8.2 (no new strings) |
| 11:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8043 normal, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , today's checkouts are in Previous checkouts in circulation.pl |
| 11:57 | Waylon | make tests are there for a reason. |
| 11:58 | neo_ | ok |
| 11:58 | Waylon | sure, ive bypassed a few in my time, when i know everything is okay, but i never totally ignored them. |
| 11:59 | can't you move to debian? | |
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| 11:59 | neo_ | no the client need CentOS , and will get support for 7 years |
| 12:00 | the hardware is Dell PowerEdge T410 | |
| 12:01 | jcamins | Based on the test results, there's probably a BIG problem with your LibXML installation. |
| 12:03 | Waylon | .... neo_..... you using a hosting management company like hostgator? |
| 12:03 | neo_ | ok, i will check |
| 12:03 | no | |
| 12:03 | Waylon | inhouse? |
| 12:03 | neo_ | in client's server room |
| 12:03 | physical machine | |
| 12:04 | Waylon | right.... why Centos? |
| 12:04 | jcamins | I have no idea what the problem might be, or how to fix it. |
| 12:04 | neo_ | they policy is to use RHEL or CentOS , the sysadmin guys don't have much experience with Debian clones |
| 12:04 | * Waylon | sighs. |
| 12:05 | Waylon | join our email list, koha-devel (address on koha-community.org site) and ask for help for Centos. Good luck, because it was a nightmare trying to get it going. |
| 12:05 | neo_ | https://metacpan.org/release/MARC-XML , says 78 pass and 682 fails |
| 12:06 | Waylon | yup. so its incredibly difficult to get right. |
| 12:07 | I think you need an exact version of the perl library, and of the underlying OS dependant library. | |
| 12:07 | kylemhall | I think I've found a problem caused by the patch for bug 7444. circulation.pl now only shows dates instead of date/time for due dates. |
| 12:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7444 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Use T::T date plugin to display dates omnibus |
| 12:07 | neo_ | i have perl-XML-LibXML-1.70-5.el6.x86_64 installed |
| 12:08 | jcamins, is the version required | |
| 12:08 | i am trying to install koha 3.8.1 latest | |
| 12:09 | jcamins | neo_: the version should be fine, but clearly there's a problem with LibXML. |
| 12:09 | neo_ | ok |
| 12:16 | paul_p | limesurvey++ !!! |
| 12:17 | (except maybe it's a little bit close to another lime... | |
| 12:17 | jcamins | @later tell eythian Could you please upload a package for libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl to the oldstable dist on debian.koha-community.org? |
| 12:17 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:24 | nengard | paul_p glad you like that idea :) |
| 12:24 | I love limesurvey!!! | |
| 12:31 | jcamins | Could someone please do a git fetch and confirm that 3.6.x was updated? |
| 12:33 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #49 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 12:35 | jcamins | Okay, jenkins says it has been. |
| 12:35 | libsysguy | thank you jenkins |
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| 12:38 | jcamins | fredericd++ |
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| 12:41 | samuel | hi everybody |
| 12:41 | mib_r0crqt | I've a basic newguy question concerning upgrading |
| 12:42 | alo Samuel | |
| 12:43 | libsysguy | hey where can I go to update my email for the devel list and the patches list, I guess bugzilla also |
| 12:43 | mib_r0crqt | I've only recently install Koha 3.8.0, is there an easy way to move to Koha 3.8.1 short of just basically re-installing Koha at the 3.8.1 version? |
| 12:43 | libsysguy | today is my last day at UT Tyler |
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| 12:43 | mib_r0crqt | where u going libsysguy? |
| 12:43 | libsysguy | bywater :) |
| 12:43 | Waylon | cool. |
| 12:43 | libsysguy | yeah I am pretty pumped about it |
| 12:43 | mib_r0crqt | we've never met, but we almost did :) |
| 12:44 | samuel | hi libsysguy |
| 12:44 | libsysguy | almost mib_r0crqt? |
| 12:44 | hey samuel | |
| 12:44 | mib_r0crqt | that's great move for you, and i hope more money |
| 12:44 | libsysguy | samuel how goes the ldap stuff? |
| 12:44 | mib_r0crqt | yes, almost, i'm the library automation technician at TJC |
| 12:44 | libsysguy | oh hey…is it John IRL? |
| 12:45 | I was so hoping to get to meet up with you and the director at some point | |
| 12:45 | mib_r0crqt | the librarians here wanted to like buy us lunch to introduce us |
| 12:45 | * Waylon | is currently having a hard time with old koha 2.0.0pre2, no real support from koha community because of version advances.... and no other coders in my employers company. So.. im envious of you libsysguy |
| 12:45 | mib_r0crqt | yes, i'm John |
| 12:45 | libsysguy | yeah, how are we still missing out on free lunch |
| 12:45 | samuel | i've not many worked on it since tuesday. I will see tomorrow but thank you for your help, it's on the good way |
| 12:46 | mib_r0crqt | well, they are still looking at vendors for support |
| 12:46 | bywater may make the cut | |
| 12:46 | jcamins | mib_r0crqt: it's very easy. Just install 3.8.1 over your current install, and it will automatically upgrade. |
| 12:47 | libsysguy | Waylon, are you trying ot upgrade? |
| 12:47 | Waylon | yeah libsysguy .... lots of mods and ungitted patches to deal with. |
| 12:47 | so is a long road. | |
| 12:47 | * libsysguy | feels your pain Waylon |
| 12:47 | mib_r0crqt | from what version and to what version? |
| 12:48 | libsysguy | i Waylon I tried to do customizations in the code at first |
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| 12:48 | libsysguy | mistake, and I paid for them |
| 12:48 | Waylon | from koha 2.0.0pre2 heavily modded to whatever is most well supported. |
| 12:48 | libsysguy | did you use git at all Waylon? |
| 12:48 | Waylon | wasn't me that modded it. |
| 12:48 | libsysguy | oh |
| 12:49 | ouch | |
| 12:49 | mib_r0crqt | i'm looking at moving from 3.8.0 to 3.8.1 for the sake of the bug fixes |
| 12:49 | Waylon | can't find a git version because they cherrypicked patches from koha trunk. |
| 12:49 | libsysguy | mib_r0crqt: did you check out from git? or did you download and unzip? |
| 12:49 | mib_r0crqt | I've only recently install Koha 3.8.0, is there an easy way to move to Koha 3.8.1 short of just basically re-installing Koha at the 3.8.1 version? |
| 12:49 | wahanui | i already had it that way, mib_r0crqt. |
| 12:49 | libsysguy | sweet baby jesus Waylon…you are in a bad place |
| 12:49 | Waylon | yup. |
| 12:50 | libsysguy | mib_r0crqt: there is an upgrade path |
| 12:50 | mib_r0crqt | i did it from the tar ball |
| 12:50 | Waylon | hell.. if i knew what i was getting myself into, i might not of got the job. |
| 12:50 | mib_r0crqt | is there any documentation on the upgrade path? |
| 12:50 | libsysguy | mib_r0crqt: there is somewhere |
| 12:50 | somebody may be able to find it faster than I can | |
| 12:50 | * libsysguy | really only messes with git installs |
| 12:51 | mib_r0crqt | i see |
| 12:51 | libsysguy | if you download the latest version there should be an upgrade file in there |
| 12:51 | mib_r0crqt | well .... |
| 12:51 | libsysguy | what have you done to your 3.8.0 install |
| 12:51 | mib_r0crqt | i did download it just this morning |
| 12:51 | libsysguy | ok, do you see the upgrade file in there |
| 12:51 | kyleh__ | does anyone know the state of that mobile opac that was done with pure css? Has anyone heard from those people in a while? |
| 12:51 | mib_r0crqt | i saw the normal install-debian and readme-debian |
| 12:52 | clrh | kyleh__: we did something |
| 12:52 | mib_r0crqt | but nothing on upgrading |
| 12:52 | libsysguy | damn |
| 12:52 | clrh | kylemhall: I can find something somewhere :) |
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| 12:52 | libsysguy | people that do upgrade doc…where are you :p |
| 12:52 | * Waylon | idly wonders what a 100% jquery dynamic update koha would be like. |
| 12:53 | kylemhall | clrh: thanks! I really hope we get a patch for that soon! |
| 12:53 | magnuse | upstreaming++ ;-) |
| 12:53 | Waylon | long way from me doing that magnuse |
| 12:53 | clrh | magnuse: signoffing++ |
| 12:54 | we are doing everyday upstreaming... | |
| 12:54 | libsysguy | hey mib_r0crqt I have been thinking about it |
| 12:54 | if you want to test | |
| 12:54 | installing koha from packages would cause you far less heartache | |
| 12:54 | mib_r0crqt | ? |
| 12:55 | using the git method? | |
| 12:55 | i actually liked figuring out the tar ball method | |
| 12:55 | libsysguy | mib_r0crqt: no you can actually use apt to install koha |
| 12:55 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages | |
| 12:55 | magnuse | clrh: i didn't say you were'nt, i think? ;-) |
| 12:55 | jcamins | mib_r0crqt: look at INSTALL.debian. |
| 12:55 | * libsysguy | did tarball at first too |
| 12:55 | jcamins | mib_r0crqt: but better would be to just switch to packages. |
| 12:56 | suffering-- | |
| 12:56 | packages++ | |
| 12:56 | libsysguy | man that's two right answers for me today |
| 12:56 | im on a roll :p | |
| 12:56 | jcamins | :) |
| 12:56 | libsysguy | i think the wiki link has a way to update from tarball to packages |
| 12:56 | mib_r0crqt | i noticed it mentioned the .deb package for koha |
| 12:57 | libsysguy | mib_r0crqt: yeah that would be the easiest way |
| 12:57 | mib_r0crqt | but it was so far from what i did for 3.8.0 ... |
| 12:57 | i'll check it out soon | |
| 12:58 | libsysguy | ok |
| 12:58 | mib_r0crqt: I have 2 weeks off after today if you want some help | |
| 12:58 | we can meet up somewhere and I can help you out | |
| 12:58 | jcamins | mib_r0crqt: and libsysguy doesn't really get this whole "vacation" thing. |
| 12:58 | Clearly. | |
| 12:59 | mib_r0crqt | hey you know libsysguy ... everything i'm doing is for personal satisfaction |
| 12:59 | libsysguy | haha well thats cool too |
| 12:59 | thats why I do development for Koha | |
| 12:59 | jcamins | He's going from a job where he installs Koha for one library to a job where he installs Koha for a lot of libraries, and in between he'd like to install Koha! |
| 12:59 | mib_r0crqt | some support company is going to host, install, configure, and support us in the end |
| 12:59 | libsysguy | I don't really do much development for UT |
| 12:59 | oh | |
| 12:59 | well I'd still be happy to help you set it up so you can learn | |
| 12:59 | * libsysguy | is all about the learning |
| 12:59 | * jcamins | too. |
| 13:00 | magnuse | libsysguy++ |
| 13:00 | mib_r0crqt | i'm here from 6AM to about 2PM if you want to swing by :) |
| 13:00 | libsysguy | will you be there at that time tomorrow? |
| 13:00 | mib_r0crqt | i'm sure you being local would influence the support company selection |
| 13:00 | libsysguy | today is my last day so I kind of have to be here :-/ |
| 13:01 | mib_r0crqt | yeah sure |
| 13:01 | mon-fri | |
| 13:01 | * jcamins | is working on modifying the sandbox scripts into teaching tools for his clients. |
| 13:01 | libsysguy | cool |
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| 13:01 | libsysguy | I can come by TJC tomorrow during that window |
| 13:01 | magnuse | jcamins++ |
| 13:01 | jcamins | Once I have figured out how to get the scripts working post-modification, I'll share them. :) |
| 13:01 | mib_r0crqt | sounds great, i'l if we can get that free lunch :) |
| 13:02 | libsysguy | sweet |
| 13:02 | * libsysguy | is all about free lunch |
| 13:02 | mib_r0crqt | yep, and salary doubling |
| 13:02 | * jcamins | scurries to get into the city. |
| 13:03 | cait | reading back: congratulatoins libsysguy :) |
| 13:03 | magnuse | yeah, congrats to libsysguy and bywater! |
| 13:03 | libsysguy | lol thanks guys :) |
| 13:03 | cait | what is your new job title? |
| 13:03 | libsysguy | umm |
| 13:03 | * libsysguy | thinks |
| 13:03 | libsysguy | I am pretty sure it is the same as Kyleh |
| 13:04 | Development Support Specialist | |
| 13:04 | * libsysguy | is a specialist :p |
| 13:04 | magnuse | sounds good, doesn't it? |
| 13:04 | cait | yeah :) |
| 13:04 | libsysguy | i feel important now |
| 13:04 | * cait | is only "librarian" heh |
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| 13:04 | cait | ok, time to fill up the fridge |
| 13:04 | :) | |
| 13:04 | libsysguy | no longer am I a Hardware support technician :p |
| 13:04 | cait | bbl |
| 13:04 | * magnuse | is free to choose his own title(s) ;-) |
| 13:04 | cait | magnuse: world emperor? |
| 13:04 | libsysguy | magnuse you are lucky lol |
| 13:05 | magnuse | hehe |
| 13:05 | libsysguy | magnuse-kahn |
| 13:05 | ok have to drive to wok | |
| 13:05 | work** | |
| 13:05 | bbl | |
| 13:05 | cait | I think we need something royal |
| 13:05 | because then we can call the little one a prince | |
| 13:05 | so.... | |
| 13:05 | king of libriotech? ;) | |
| 13:05 | magnuse | yay! |
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| 13:06 | cait | and infant leonard |
| 13:06 | magnuse | kia ora sekjal! |
| 13:06 | sekjal | morning, magnuse! |
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| 13:08 | cait | hi sekjal |
| 13:08 | sekjal | hi, cait! |
| 13:09 | cait | :) |
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| 13:12 | cait | ok, now gone - brb |
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| 13:18 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #49: SUCCESS in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/49/ |
| 13:18 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 8025: corrects the return of a zero value for authorised values | |
| 13:18 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 3413: Checkboxes for new subfields not saving correctly | |
| 13:18 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 2399: All status fields in the item edit interface offer two blank/null entries per dropdown instead of one | |
| 13:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8025 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Patron attribute not selected if value is zero |
| 13:18 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 2399: Follow up removing MySQLisms from ru-RU and uk-UA sample files |
| 13:18 | * colin.campbell: Bug 7987 [SIGNED-OFF] Fix typo in circulation template | |
| 13:18 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7929 - Duplicate id "availability" on XSLT result page | |
| 13:18 | * magnus: Bug 8008 - Fix typo in man page for koha-create | |
| 13:18 | * stephane.delaune: bug 7990 - styl= in aqplan.tt | |
| 13:18 | * koha.sekjal: Bug 7820: Add missing Debian packages | |
| 13:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3413 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , repeatable tickbox not sticking 1st time round |
| 13:18 | jenkins_koha | * jonathan.druart: Bug 7820: Followup: Add missing Debian packages |
| 13:18 | * paul.poulain: Welcoming Lyon 3 team as a committer, and adding 3.8.0 release | |
| 13:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2399 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , All status fields in the item edit interface offer two blank/null entries per dropdown instead of one |
| 13:18 | jenkins_koha | * jcamins: Bug 8022: Permissions test doesn't check all languages |
| 13:18 | * dpavlin: Bug 7213 - simple /svc/ HTTP example | |
| 13:18 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 7213 : Follow up fixing license information | |
| 13:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7987 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Typo causing invalid markup in circulation.tt |
| 13:18 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7929 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Duplicate id "availability" on XSLT result page | |
| 13:18 | jenkins_koha | * kyle: Bug 7722 - Insidious problem with searching |
| 13:18 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 : Fix for XISBN test, thingisbn is now handing back different results | |
| 13:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8008 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , Fix typo in man page for koha-create |
| 13:19 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7990 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Pushed to Stable , bad html attribute into aqplan.tt : styl= insted of style= | |
| 13:19 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7820 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Missing packages from install_misc/debian.packages | |
| 13:19 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8022 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Permissions test doesn't check all languages | |
| 13:19 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7213 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , Document /svc/ HTTP API and provide example command-line client | |
| 13:19 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7722 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Insidious problem with searching | |
| 13:19 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, sam-sanders, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules | |
| 13:19 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #50 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 13:20 | pastebot | "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "looking for (hopefully easy) report help if anyone can give me a pointer that would be great" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/451 |
| 13:23 | sekjal | nengard: I think you need to move the "count(distinct m.biblionumber) > 1)" out of WHERE and into HAVING |
| 13:24 | nengard | OH YES!!! I always make that mistake |
| 13:24 | and you always correct me | |
| 13:24 | THANK YOU | |
| 13:25 | ago43 | sekjal ++ |
| 13:25 | nengard | Wait, where does the having go? I put it after the where and still get the error |
| 13:25 | :( | |
| 13:26 | sekjal | nengard: HAVING after WHERE, with no GROUP BY |
| 13:27 | pastebot | "sekjal" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "for nengard" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/452 |
| 13:27 | nengard | thank you so much |
| 13:27 | I never learned HAVING (in case you didn't notice) and so I never think about it | |
| 13:28 | ago43 here's your report: http://paste.koha-community.org/452 | |
| 13:28 | sekjal | you're welcome; no guarantee it's the data you're looking for, but it doesnt' return an error on my system, at least |
| 13:28 | nengard | hehe |
| 13:28 | ago43 will tell us if it's right | |
| 13:28 | but I too ran it with no errors | |
| 13:30 | ago43 | looks like it worked! no errors. |
| 13:31 | only one result, but I think that is correct. | |
| 13:31 | many pluses your way, sekjal! | |
| 13:32 | sekjal | thanks, ago43, glad I could help |
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| 13:33 | mbalmer | ola koha |
| 13:33 | sekjal | apparently, WHERE is applied before GROUP BY or ORDER BY, while HAVING is applied after |
| 13:34 | so any conditionals you want to on an aggregate function line SUM() or COUNT() need to be in HAVING, because that information won't exist yet when WHERE is executed | |
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| 13:50 | cait | back |
| 13:55 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 13:56 | cait | :) |
| 14:03 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7952' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c5cd6eefd4ef3060b> / Bug 7952 - followup to fix t/Creators.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ac14e4b5bb5f3cf30> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5337' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a=commitdiff;h=bb |
| 14:03 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #50: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/50/ |
| 14:03 | jcamins: Release Notes for 3.06.06.000 14 Jun 2012 12:33:48 Z | |
| 14:04 | Starting build #756 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #743 5 days 4 hr ago) | |
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| 14:13 | jcamins | sekjal: you can pretty much just thing of HAVING as "WHERE for aggregate functions." |
| 14:13 | :) | |
| 14:14 | *think of | |
| 14:15 | That's generally close enough to correct to enable you to write working queries. | |
| 14:16 | nengard: see my comment to sekjal. I didn't read far enough back. | |
| 14:17 | nengard | cool |
| 14:17 | thanks | |
| 14:18 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 14:18 | 3.6.x is stable! | |
| 14:19 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 14:19 | * jcamins | wasn't actually worried. |
| 14:19 | cait | me neither |
| 14:19 | trusting in you :) | |
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| 14:35 | * jcamins | needs to enlist help to record common Koha tasks. |
| 14:36 | cait | http recorder recording? :) |
| 14:38 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 14:41 | I've decided to have a test environment for release preparation that does tests interaction steps, too. | |
| 14:41 | Creating a user, checking out books, etc. | |
| 14:41 | *that tests | |
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| 14:43 | * jcamins | will send out an e-mail requesting assistance and with instructions this evening, probably. |
| 14:43 | libsysguy | mib_r0crqt you still around? |
| 14:43 | jcamins | Ooh, I bet libsysguy would like to use his vacation to record lots of Koha tasks. |
| 14:43 | sekjal | jcamins++ |
| 14:43 | libsysguy | ... |
| 14:44 | jcamins ಠ_ಠ | |
| 14:44 | jcamins | libsysguy: we're going to be using HTTP::Recorder and Test::WWW::Mechanize to test common Koha tasks. |
| 14:44 | And by "we" I mean, I'll be doing the testing, you'll be doing the recording. :P | |
| 14:44 | (you can test too if you'd like, of course) | |
| 14:45 | libsysguy | haha thats funny jcamins because I was just looking into using WWW::Mechanize to do testing |
| 14:45 | and I was going to code it and let you enter the recordings :p | |
| 14:45 | jcamins | It is so freaking awesome. |
| 14:45 | libsysguy | it is |
| 14:45 | although I have never coded for it | |
| 14:45 | jcamins | I don't know how I lived without WWW::Mechanize, now that I know about it. |
| 14:46 | https://github.com/jcamins/rel[…]r/httprecorder.pl | |
| 14:46 | https://github.com/jcamins/rel[…]/install-fresh.pl | |
| 14:47 | libsysguy | yeah its pretty sweet right |
| 14:47 | we could use the cralwer I wrote to do link checking and software errors | |
| 14:47 | crawler** | |
| 14:48 | jcamins | libsysguy: oooh, clever. |
| 14:48 | libsysguy: you should submit a patch with t/www/crawl_opac.t and t/www/crawl_intranet.t | |
| 14:49 | libsysguy | that would be cool |
| 14:49 | cait | :) |
| 14:49 | libsysguy | I could definitly do that |
| 14:49 | cait | automatic_testing++ |
| 14:49 | jcamins: maybe a wiki page? | |
| 14:49 | and we need a common starting point | |
| 14:50 | jcamins | cait: yeah, definitely a wiki page. |
| 14:51 | The plan is that different people will be able to record different tasks. | |
| 14:51 | libsysguy | it would be cool if we could translate javascript actions into WW::Mech tasks |
| 14:52 | jcamins | Yeah, being able to test Javascript would be pretty incredible, too. |
| 14:52 | libsysguy | well i mean record user actions in javascript instead of coding them ourselves |
| 14:53 | then push those to Mech actions | |
| 14:53 | cait | ? |
| 14:54 | jcamins | WWW::Mechanize::Firefox. |
| 14:54 | libsysguy: you didn't follow the first link I shared earlier, did you? | |
| 14:54 | libsysguy | damn....no skipped straight to 2 |
| 14:55 | damn it jcamins why do you have to have all the good ideas first | |
| 14:55 | jcamins | Yeah, link 1 was a script for recording actions. So you just do whatever you want to test, and then save the resulting script. |
| 14:55 | cait | libsysguy: because he is way smarter than we are? |
| 14:55 | libsysguy | sad but true |
| 14:55 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #756: STILL UNSTABLE in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/756/ |
| 14:55 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5337 : Upping the count of the unit tests | |
| 14:55 | * dpavlin: Bug 7952 - followup to fix t/Creators.t | |
| 14:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5337 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , acq EAN search |
| 14:55 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7952 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , PDF::Reuse under plack writes to console STDOUT instead to browser | |
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| 14:58 | matts | yay ! Pushed ! |
| 14:59 | jcamins | Hm. When rangi is back home, maybe he can explain why jenkins is unhappy. |
| 15:01 | clrh | http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]#showFailuresLink ? |
| 15:02 | jcamins | clrh: yes, that test passes on my system. |
| 15:02 | And it doesn't say what it doesn't like. | |
| 15:02 | clrh | aah :) |
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| 15:08 | wizzyrea | gotta be seothing about the db |
| 15:09 | jcamins | wizzyrea: it's a perlcritic complaint, I suspect I'm missing a perlcritic configuration file or something. |
| 15:10 | wizzyrea | oh could be |
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| 15:22 | jcamins | Ah. If I look in the build output, it tells me what the problem is. |
| 15:23 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:23 | clrh | jcamins: wich url? |
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| 15:31 | dpavlin | I have quick question about Bug 8247 -- attached patch is minimal change which fixes it, but I would love to rewrite NewBasket to properly use placeholders in SQL query (instead of string interpolation) and insert everything using singe SQL statement. Would that fit into same bug or should I open another one? |
| 15:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8247 blocker, P1 - high, ---, dpavlin, ASSIGNED , adding basket doesn't save basket name, internal or vendor note |
| 15:36 | sekjal | dpavlin: from the fix provided, it looks like it should be a separate bug report. |
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| 15:38 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 15:40 | drojf | went to a library, could not get the book i wanted because the system was offline. damn non-koha ils |
| 15:41 | * oleonard | has heard that it's possible for Koha to go down too ;) |
| 15:41 | nengard | hehe |
| 15:42 | drojf | oleonard: we got offline circulation |
| 15:42 | they didn#t | |
| 15:42 | was a good starter to question their choice of ils though :D | |
| 15:42 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 15:42 | SJeffery | Koha does not go down...it is the fault of the OS |
| 15:43 | wizzyrea | or more likely, chinese web crawlers. |
| 15:43 | oleonard | Good point SJeffery |
| 15:43 | ...or MySQL | |
| 15:44 | SJeffery | lol yes |
| 15:44 | clrh | kylemhall: you asked for css and smartphone I completly forget |
| 15:45 | jcamins | Additional follow-up on bug 8092. |
| 15:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should use CHI caching framework |
| 15:46 | jcamins | I don't know how to test it, since I can't replicate the problem. |
| 15:46 | clrh | kylemhall: can't do more than: http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koh[…]/unilim/ft/MT6838 |
| 15:46 | not submitted and not a priority for the moment | |
| 15:47 | (but listed... https://docs.google.com/a/bibl[…]UmxpRnRVUUE#gid=0) | |
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| 15:50 | jcamins | Patch attached to bug 8092. |
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| 15:53 | SJeffery | bug 8248 <--there, I submitted it...if someone could test it in FF/Chrome and see what happens. |
| 15:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8248 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Invalid characters entered in bib record cause 500 error |
| 16:03 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #757 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #743 5 days 6 hr ago) |
| 16:04 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8092' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]68ee82573328fe98a> / Bug 8092 follow-up: Fix perlcritic violations <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d780529fb916de542> |
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| 16:51 | jcamins | nengard: maximep has a patch about serial prediction. I don't know what it does, but maybe it has something to do with the bug you just reported? |
| 16:51 | nengard | okey dokey |
| 16:54 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 16:54 | Project Koha_master build #757: FIXED in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/757/ | |
| 16:54 | jcamins: Bug 8092 follow-up: Fix perlcritic violations | |
| 16:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should use CHI caching framework |
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| 17:33 | mveron | Good evening #koha |
| 17:34 | cait | bye mveron :) |
| 17:36 | * mveron | Waves to cait |
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| 18:07 | drojf | hello again |
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| 18:26 | maximep | oh, yeah, koha. I should fix those patches -_- |
| 18:27 | cait | hey drojf :) |
| 18:28 | drojf | hi cait :) |
| 18:28 | cait | how was the unfun job? ;) |
| 18:29 | drojf | even less fun then usual |
| 18:29 | sent to get a book, library is offline and cant give out books. copied the article somewhere else, went back, we already had the article, but it was labelled wrong :( | |
| 18:30 | but nagged the offline library about koha ;) | |
| 18:31 | cait: we should have little flyers for the koha part of the wildau thing | |
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| 18:31 | drojf | or at least i should, you are not really in berlin/brandenburg |
| 18:34 | cait | :) |
| 18:34 | you should | |
| 18:34 | and I have a library in berlin ;) | |
| 18:34 | or we have | |
| 18:34 | drojf | yes but you dont usually visit libraries here that you could give a flyer to |
| 18:35 | also your berlin library hides ours on the libwebcat map :P | |
| 18:35 | cait | lol |
| 18:35 | I am sorry :) | |
| 18:35 | this is soo good - just cut some of my fudge | |
| 18:36 | * cait | puts a little plate of fudge into #koha ;) |
| 18:36 | * drojf | grabs a piece |
| 18:37 | cait | I have to get back to that store somehow |
| 18:37 | wonder if they ship? | |
| 18:37 | drojf | no new bids for kohacon. i guess it will stay that way |
| 18:37 | i bet they do ship | |
| 18:37 | already found a supply for the heather ale here too | |
| 18:37 | cait | hehe |
| 18:38 | will be hard to eat that in small amounts. so good. | |
| 18:38 | drojf | take a piece and lock it away with a timer until next day :D |
| 18:39 | cait | I fear I don't have a safe with timer around :) |
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| 18:39 | drojf | i bet you can order it from the fudge house |
| 18:39 | cait | it was a smaller store |
| 18:39 | that's why I am wondering | |
| 18:39 | somewhere around grassmarket | |
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| 18:40 | mbalmer | ola |
| 18:41 | drojf | hi mbalmer |
| 18:41 | mbalmer | hi mirko! |
| 18:41 | * cait | waves |
| 18:41 | * mbalmer | waves back |
| 18:41 | * mveron | Waves to German speaking Kohanians |
| 18:42 | drojf | hi mveron |
| 18:42 | mveron | hi drojf |
| 18:42 | * cait | missed kohacon |
| 18:42 | drojf | its like a german speaking community meeting :D |
| 18:42 | cait | hm misses |
| 18:42 | yeah, finally there is one :) | |
| 18:42 | mveron | Great |
| 18:42 | mbalmer | wo denn? |
| 18:43 | drojf | are there language rules here? probably yes, i dont read much french here |
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| 18:43 | drojf | mbalmer: na hier |
| 18:43 | cait | I think sticking to english mostly is probably more polite :) |
| 18:43 | mbalmer | on peut même changer ca, drojf ;) |
| 18:43 | cait | there is a french speaking koha channel |
| 18:43 | koha-fr I think | |
| 18:44 | drojf | ah i see |
| 18:44 | they have their own universe already | |
| 18:44 | mbalmer | if at all a non english language, it should probably be maori anyway.... |
| 18:45 | drojf | thats true. have to tell my boss to buy some maori teaching books. we only have one cd-rom |
| 18:46 | cait | drojf: good idea :) |
| 18:46 | how do I sign up for a borrower card at your library? | |
| 18:47 | mbalmer | apply in maori... |
| 18:47 | drojf | you come by and explain why you should be a patron even though you dont study |
| 18:47 | cait | I do study |
| 18:48 | only at the wrong university | |
| 18:48 | I could provide my student id for fh dortmund or my staff member card for university of konstanz? :) | |
| 18:49 | drojf | only berlin brandenburg. but you cant borrow things anyway, only some exceptions for teachers and students with papers or talks to do. but you can learn at our nice place |
| 18:49 | cait | hm |
| 18:49 | might be a bit impractical then | |
| 18:49 | drojf | yes i know. its because of the tv recordings |
| 18:56 | oh there is fussball. again. | |
| 18:57 | * cait | watches cooking shows in english |
| 18:59 | * mbalmer | eats and drinks ;) |
| 18:59 | cait | dpavlin: have you seen jared's work on chi? :) |
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| 19:23 | libsysguy | just realized how clever neo_'s nick was |
| 19:24 | Mr. Anderson... | |
| 19:25 | * mveron | says good night to #koha |
| 19:25 | cait | good night mveron |
| 19:25 | :) | |
| 19:25 | mveron | :-) |
| 19:26 | mbalmer | slacker.... |
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| 20:12 | wizzyrea | wow. |
| 20:13 | kathryn | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 20:13 | wizzyrea | hi :) |
| 20:14 | cait | hi kathryn :) |
| 20:14 | * cait | said hi to wizzyrea already |
| 20:14 | kathryn | morning cait! |
| 20:14 | I just saw a "wow" when I arrived :) | |
| 20:15 | cait | heh |
| 20:15 | netsplit, most people got reconnected | |
| 20:15 | long list | |
| 20:20 | sekjal | good night, #koha! |
| 20:27 | jcamins | Does anyone have a moment to test something for me? |
| 20:27 | Try enabling OPACAmazonReviews. | |
| 20:27 | Is the end result... icky? | |
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| 20:29 | gml | hi everyone. |
| 20:29 | about http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=7178#c25 | |
| 20:29 | huginn | 04Bug 7178: normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, Improve order item creation |
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| 20:30 | gml | "The new display after this patch requires you to click 'Add' at least once" |
| 20:30 | What's the "add" they're talking about? | |
| 20:30 | Where is this "add"? | |
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| 20:31 | jcamins_mib | Wow. My connection is really problematic today. |
| 20:32 | cait | gml: are you creating a new order right now? |
| 20:32 | in acquisitions? | |
| 20:32 | and is your AcqCreateItem preference set to "on order"? | |
| 20:32 | jcamins_mib | gml: what version of Koha are you using? |
| 20:32 | cait | because it applies only if that is the case |
| 20:32 | gml | yes, I have the quantity=0 in neworderempty when AcqCreateItem = "place an order" |
| 20:33 | cait | yes |
| 20:33 | click add on the item form above | |
| 20:33 | there is a small link below the item form | |
| 20:33 | drojf | see, that IS confusing! |
| 20:33 | cait | drojf: I know - but we did not come up with a better idea |
| 20:34 | drojf: the thing is, you create items | |
| 20:34 | starting with one item already would not be less confusing maybe | |
| 20:34 | not sure | |
| 20:34 | drojf | its ok once you know it. but i feel less stupid now that im not the only one ;) |
| 20:34 | jcamins | Seems tob e 3.6.x-specific. |
| 20:34 | cait | nope |
| 20:34 | jcamins_mib | Wow. |
| 20:34 | Talk about lag. | |
| 20:34 | cait | it's in all versions now |
| 20:34 | gml | jcamins_mib: 3.8.0, + the 4 files from http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ba846bbef9db8c2af changed |
| 20:34 | jcamins_mib | (I sent that message ten minutes ago) |
| 20:34 | (about my request fifteen minutes ago for help testing) | |
| 20:35 | Very laggy. | |
| 20:35 | * jcamins | pokes this _mib fellow. |
| 20:36 | jcamins_mib | Guess I'll keep using mibbit while I have several minute key lag. |
| 20:38 | Hm. | |
| 20:38 | Found the problem. | |
| 20:38 | oleonard's jqueryui update fixed a bunch of markup errors. | |
| 20:41 | Or at least one. | |
| 20:43 | gml | cait: I'm on /cgi-bin/koha/acqui/neworderempty.pl , and "Item" group is empty |
| 20:43 | cait | ah |
| 20:44 | have you definded your acq framework correctly? | |
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| 20:44 | gml | I created ACQ framework |
| 20:44 | cait | did you click on marc structure |
| 20:44 | after you created it? | |
| 20:44 | and selected a framework for it to be based on? | |
| 20:44 | It sounds like your field 952 is not setup correctly | |
| 20:44 | gml | and something like 952 subfield 7 = -1 |
| 20:45 | how should it be? | |
| 20:45 | cait | it should show your item fields |
| 20:45 | that you want to create for your on order items | |
| 20:45 | like having on loan set to 'on order' | |
| 20:49 | gml | I followed this "cookbook" http://wiki.ubc.ca/User:JJU/po[…]_frameworks_guide |
| 20:50 | cait | I would suggest starting over |
| 20:50 | delete the acq framework | |
| 20:51 | ah | |
| 20:51 | hm | |
| 20:51 | is this a fresh installation? | |
| 20:51 | maybe you didn't install the standard authorized values | |
| 20:53 | gml | I installed all demo values (like those libraries Centerville, Fairfield, etc) |
| 20:53 | cait | hm |
| 20:53 | can you share a screenshot somehow? | |
| 20:53 | how the acquisition form looks for you? | |
| 20:54 | gml | how do you people send images here? |
| 20:54 | thirdparty webpages? | |
| 20:54 | drojf | good night #koha |
| 20:55 | cait | gml: I think so :( we only have a tool for text |
| 20:57 | gml | cait: gimme a few minutes please |
| 20:57 | cait | np |
| 20:58 | magnuse | g'night #koha |
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| 21:03 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #51 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 21:13 | oleonard | It's quiet in here. We should have a meeting. |
| 21:14 | dpavlin | cait: yes, I'm going through CHI code as we speeak... I think we should add Cache::Memcached::Fast to koha dependecies, since I wasn't able to figure out why CHI modules didn't show up after installation :-) |
| 21:15 | cait | oleonard: heh :) |
| 21:15 | oleonard: why are you still here? | |
| 21:15 | isn't it your time to go home ? :) | |
| 21:15 | dpavlin | @tell mbalmer sorry, try my e-mail I'm not really on IRC at all, it's my hanging irssi mostly :-) |
| 21:15 | huginn | dpavlin: Error: I haven't seen mbalmer, I'll let you do the telling. |
| 21:15 | oleonard | Working late today cait |
| 21:16 | cait | ooh |
| 21:16 | * cait | sends cookies |
| 21:16 | * oleonard | could use some |
| 21:16 | oleonard | dpavlin: Try "@later tell mbalmer..." |
| 21:17 | dpavlin | @later tell mbalmer sorry, try my e-mail I'm not really on IRC at all, it's my hanging irssi mostly :-) |
| 21:17 | huginn | dpavlin: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:17 | dpavlin | oleonard++ I'm IRC newbie :-) |
| 21:17 | cait | dpavlin: you should get together with jared probably :) he seems the chi expert right now |
| 21:18 | dpavlin | yap, we had irc discussion yesterday while waiting for IRC meeting. My mail to koha-dev is basically better summary from that ;-) |
| 21:18 | cait | ah ok |
| 21:18 | :) | |
| 21:19 | jcamins_mib | dpavlin: yeah, I didn't realize that Cache::Memcached::Fast wasn't already a dependency. |
| 21:20 | It turns out Cache::Memcached can't cope with UTF-8. | |
| 21:20 | * jcamins_mib | feels this is a problem. |
| 21:20 | jcamins_mib | oleonard: why are you here this late? |
| 21:20 | * jcamins | tries his usual nick for a change. |
| 21:20 | jcamins | No keylag at the moment. |
| 21:20 | cait | yay :) |
| 21:20 | jcaminshe is working late today :P | |
| 21:21 | oleonard | I was asked to cover for someone at another library today. |
| 21:21 | cait | oh |
| 21:21 | dpavlin | jcamins: Hope that Cache::Memcached::Fast doesn't have bug 7879 -- not tried yet |
| 21:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7879 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, In Discussion , Memoize::Memcached two times slower than it should be |
| 21:21 | * oleonard | is slumming it on Mibbit on someone else's computer |
| 21:22 | cait | dpavlin: how did you watch the life streams? |
| 21:22 | for yapc:na? | |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | "slumming it" |
| 21:22 | jcamins | dpavlin: isn't 7879 memoize-specific? |
| 21:22 | cait | I want to, but it is not working :( |
| 21:23 | silverlight? | |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | yea it uses silverlight |
| 21:23 | boo. | |
| 21:23 | cait | yeah boo |
| 21:23 | I tought I saw a post somewhere today how to avoid silverlight watching those | |
| 21:24 | but can't find it now | |
| 21:24 | and even after installing microsoft codecs stuff on my nice linuxy laptop it does not seem to work | |
| 21:24 | oleonard | Wasn't it a tweet from dpavlin? |
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| 21:26 | cait | checking :) |
| 21:26 | hm | |
| 21:26 | doesn't look like it | |
| 21:26 | ah | |
| 21:27 | http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/v[…]-June/003125.html | |
| 21:31 | http://video.ics.uwex.edu/5952[…]9374-016bc28f7d2c | |
| 21:31 | hah | |
| 21:31 | it works | |
| 21:33 | * wizzyrea | curses at ipads |
| 21:34 | * oleonard | covers the ipads sensitive young ears |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | sensitive. They are cruel taskmasters. |
| 21:37 | hey I see ruth! | |
| 21:38 | jcamins | wizzyrea: she just showed up at NEKLS? |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | no! she was on the YAPC stream :) briefly |
| 21:38 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 21:38 | I was a little baffled how that could happen. | |
| 21:38 | bag | yup I just caught her too |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea: those were some serious chops on that dude | |
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| 21:42 | wizzyrea | this is very loud lol. |
| 21:42 | jcamins | It sure is. |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | oh good, we're starting with holy wars. |
| 21:42 | jcamins | :D |
| 21:43 | dpavlin | jcamins: or something similar <grin> -- still setting up CHI on plack, bug 7857 got sqeezed before CHI :-) |
| 21:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7857 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Signed Off , database upgrade fails with plack |
| 21:44 | dpavlin | jcamins++ for testing plack stuff it really helps |
| 21:45 | cait | oh mysql won? |
| 21:45 | jcamins | dpavlin: Plack's really cool! |
| 21:45 | cait: we should get that slide, make it the background on the wiki... | |
| 21:46 | wizzyrea | wow that is annoying. |
| 21:46 | cait | wizzyrea: what? |
| 21:46 | the music? | |
| 21:46 | wizzyrea | lol yes |
| 21:46 | cait | or that the people are so small? |
| 21:46 | wizzyrea | that too. |
| 21:46 | i am sure it's lovely when it's not breaking speakers. | |
| 21:46 | or overloading the inputs. | |
| 21:47 | cait | not sure |
| 21:47 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #51: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/51/ |
| 21:47 | jcamins: Fix markup error | |
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| 21:49 | jcamins | dpavlin: I'll point out again that memoize is not a good choice for caching in Koha, since record invalidation can't be done. |
| 21:50 | dpavlin | jcamins: i know, i know. I will replace it with compute I promise :-) |
| 21:50 | jcamins | *cache invalidation |
| 21:50 | And that's true whether or not we're using memcached. | |
| 21:50 | It's just even worse when we're using memcached. | |
| 21:50 | cait | dpavlin: it's so nice - you write something and I can hear your voice talking in my head |
| 21:50 | jcamins | :D |
| 21:51 | wajasu | whether you configure the z3950 server encoding to be marc-8 or utf-8, does koha support both? or should one set all the z3950 server encodings to utf-8? does koha translate the marc records to a utf-8? |
| 21:51 | dpavlin | wajasu: there is recent bug for that |
| 21:51 | jcamins | wajasu: you have to set it to whatever the remote server supports. |
| 21:52 | If you have an example of a server that supports both (hard to find!), you should sign off on the bug. | |
| 21:53 | wajasu | ok. so the installed marc flavour is only a guideline, and thinga are mixed. |
| 21:53 | jcamins | UTF-8 and MARC-8 are different character encodings, not MARC formats. |
| 21:53 | wajasu | right. |
| 21:53 | jcamins | Koha will translate everything to UTF-8 after importing. |
| 21:54 | wajasu | thats what i wanted to know. |
| 21:54 | jcamins | But you have to get the UTF-8/MARC-8 decision right, or it'll just be ugly. |
| 21:55 | wajasu | my user would see black diamonds. so they would change to marc8. which would the correct things to do correct. |
| 21:55 | jcamins | Right. |
| 21:56 | dpavlin | It can be even worse: for us marc-8 records from voyager ended up beeing separate character and carron instead of single utf-8 char which was very tricky for editing |
| 21:56 | wajasu | maybe we could convert for both options, and if black diamonds appear in one, and not the other, suggest that the encoding be changed in the config. |
| 21:56 | jcamins | dpavlin: yeah, Koha needs to have better support for unicode normalization. |
| 21:56 | dpavlin | and then our national library moved to aleph and doesn't have public Z39.50 server, so problem solved (for them) |
| 21:57 | jcamins | wajasu: the problem is that there's no way to identify what the correct encoding is without looking at it. |
| 21:57 | * oleonard | waves goodbye to #koha |
| 21:59 | wajasu | thanks. |
| 22:01 | * cait | highly recommends whatching the life stream for yapc:na |
| 22:02 | bag | go #koha!!!! |
| 22:08 | dpavlin | are there any pending Koha::Cache patches for sysprefs and such stuff or can I start? |
| 22:08 | jcamins | dpavlin: I've decided I don't like any of the existing patches, so you can start over. |
| 22:08 | cait | loö |
| 22:08 | lol even | |
| 22:08 | wajasu | does koha convert to a certain normalization standard ( NFD norm form decomposed, vs NFC norm form composed)? |
| 22:08 | cait | my hand fell asleep |
| 22:09 | jcamins | wajasu: no. It's a problem. |
| 22:09 | cait | jcamins: hm not sure |
| 22:09 | jcamins | cait: it's supposed to convert to NFKC, but it doesn't. |
| 22:09 | cait | it does not if you say you get utf-8 to begin with |
| 22:10 | that's why I get the data from the union catalog in one of the iso.... | |
| 22:10 | jcamins | cait: it doesn't normalize MARC-8 consistently either. |
| 22:10 | cait: I can get NFKC, NFD, *or* NFC from a MARC-8 record. | |
| 22:10 | cait | eek |
| 22:11 | we should fix that | |
| 22:11 | jcamins | cait: we should. |
| 22:15 | wajasu | when i was writing a program to convert legacy library db to marc and had the option of using some options for normalization, i was looking hard for a guide. maybe the wiki has it, or else it needs it. |
| 22:15 | jcamins | Not yet, that I know of. |
| 22:17 | wajasu | my fear is folks can run with bogus transformations for a few years, thinking some bugs exist in the code, while the data is not consistent. |
| 22:20 | * jcamins | knows of two libraries that were in that situation. |
| 22:22 | wajasu | i did a diacritic fix once, but could not be sure my setup was comparable to a debian install. thats why i am using a debian VM now. so as not to bring in some new behavior when patching. |
| 22:23 | here is a nice bit of info: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group[…]9/01/msg2703.html | |
| 22:28 | * jcamins | invents peanut satay salad dressing. |
| 22:30 | cait | yum |
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