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| 02:14 | m1n3cr4f7 | new site to get premium minecraft upgrades, no info needed: http://totallyfreeminecraft.com/ supplies are limited so get yours now! | 
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| 02:17 | ibeardslee | thanks | 
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| 02:22 | mib_e3t80p | hi | 
| 02:23 | please help me about koha? | |
| 02:24 | wajasu | ask. | 
| 02:24 | mib_e3t80p | i install koha 3.8.1 on ubuntu | 
| 02:26 | wajasu | ok. | 
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| 02:26 | m1n3cr4f7 | new site to get premium minecraft upgrades, no info needed: http://totallyfreeminecraft.com/ supplies are limited so get yours now! | 
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| 02:26 | mib_e3t80p | currently we do not seek anything from the OPAC and staff interfaces? | 
| 02:27 | wajasu | verify that you have run/rebuilt the zebra index. and that zebrasrv is running. | 
| 02:30 | i assume you have imported some records, via staging or z3950 first. there should be a cron job that runs the zebra indexer to reindex the database. the search always uses the zebra server to "find" records. | |
| 02:32 | mib_e3t80p | you can go to my website with information koha: + Web for Employees: tinphu.no-ip.info: 8080 => user: koha; pass: 123 @ koha + Web OPAC: tinphu.no-ip.info => user: binhdd; pass: 123 @ binhdd | 
| 02:34 | wajasu | if you correctly define KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB in your commandline environment, you can run a /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl (see INSTALL in | 
| 02:36 | on the wiki I see a warning for Ubuntu: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu | |
| 02:36 | i reached your site. | |
| 02:37 | http://tinphu.no-ip.info:8080/ is not accessible, probably and apache web config thing, but the OPAC is. | |
| 02:38 | Demo Phần mềm quản ... | |
| 02:38 | mib_e3t80p | Demo Phần mềm quản: http://tinphu.no-ip.info:8080 | 
| 02:39 | with info: user: koha | |
| 02:39 | password: 123 koha | 
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| 02:40 | you login and test. | |
| 02:40 | wajasu | its trying to connect, but port 8080 may not getting to the koha host. http://tinphu.no-ip.info:80/ works though. | 
| 02:40 | it may work for you in your intranet, if its behind a firewall, or NAT router. | |
| 02:42 | if you are behind a NATed router, you might need to port forward port 8080. but folks don't usually do that on the internet. | |
| 02:43 | the OPAC works. nothing to find though. must need zebra index to be run. | |
| 02:43 | mib_e3t80p | i I was in Vietnam, I have internet but no static IP so I use the free service fai of no-ip | 
| 02:44 | wajasu | thats working fine. | 
| 02:46 | maybe you need Listen 8080 added to /etc/apache2/ports.conf | |
| 02:48 | did you install from git, ot koha-common | |
| 02:48 | git, or koha-common? | |
| 02:49 | mib_e3t80p | Vietnam all over the country have access to the link: http://tinphu.no-ip.info:8080. or you use a proxy for the link: http://tinphu.no-ip.info:8080 see it? | 
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| 02:49 | druthb | o/ | 
| 02:49 | wajasu | i don't see it from USA. | 
| 02:50 | only the OPAC | |
| 02:51 | mib_e3t80p | i not install koha from git. | 
| 02:52 | wajasu | export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml;export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib | 
| 02:52 | $KOHAPATH/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null | |
| 02:54 | mib_e3t80p | now you only own a "how to get the data to find the name of the book can easily spend a" thank you! | 
| 02:56 | wajasu | on kohsa staff interface (8080), if yo installed z3950 servicers, you can select "Cataloguing" and z3950 search button. then search for author, then click on import link, and and an item. | 
| 03:03 | mib_e3t80p | can you give me a list of titles on the Z39.50 I find it? | 
| 03:15 | wajasu | library of congress: title: abraham lincoln or title: animal farm | 
| 03:15 | i've got to go. late here. | |
| 03:25 | mib_e3t80p | I found the name harry potter found "An AZ of Harry Potter" I have install it and create successful item. then I go back home and find the catalog with staff from: "harry potter" shall receive the message: "No results match your search for 'kw, wrdl: harry potter' in Library Catalog System." so was it you? | 
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| 03:56 | wajasu | can you look on the wiki to try to rebuild the zebra index. and make sure the zerbasrv service is running. then the search may find your item. | 
| 04:07 | whois | i used command $KOHAPATH/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null | 
| 04:08 | but receive the message: Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at ./migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. | |
| 04:14 | + Have the following problem: if I search for "harry potter" in cataloging the Biblios Seach reservoir in the list | |
| 04:14 | even if I search for "harry potter" in the catalog Seach receive the message: "No results match your search for 'kw, wrdl: harry potter' in Library Catalog System." | |
| 04:14 | + Note that the interface is only found in the catalog OPAC Seach. | |
| 04:53 | wajasu | Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC i think you need to set the PERL5LIB and KOHA_CONF variables before running the rebuild script. | 
| 04:54 | mtj | wajasu++ | 
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| 05:17 | Oak | kia ora #koha | 
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| 06:07 | mveron | Good morning #koha | 
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| 06:28 | alex_a | hello #koha ! | 
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| 06:36 | cait | hi #koha | 
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| 06:41 | reiveune | hello | 
| 06:41 | wahanui | bonjour, reiveune | 
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| 06:43 | drojf | good morning #koha | 
| 06:43 | * cait | waves | 
| 06:43 | * mveron | waves back | 
| 06:45 | drojf | moin cait and mveron | 
| 06:46 | mveron | Guete morge drojf | 
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| 06:56 | julian_m | hi | 
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| 06:58 | whois | hi all | 
| 06:58 | please help me! | |
| 07:01 | mveron | whois: Go ahead, ask questions :-) I got a lot of help here | 
| 07:02 | whois | yes! | 
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| 07:03 | Oak | kia ora #koha | 
| 07:03 | cait! | |
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| 07:04 | mveron | Hi mbalmer | 
| 07:04 | mbalmer | morgen! | 
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| 07:04 | whois | while ago I talked with you in room # koha wajasu | 
| 07:04 | drojf | moin mbalmer | 
| 07:04 | whois | you can access the web staff koha: tinphu.no-ip.info: 8080 is not? | 
| 07:05 | drojf | whois: works without the space before the number | 
| 07:06 | http://tinphu.no-ip.info:8080 | |
| 07:06 | whois | i install koha ver 3.8.1 | 
| 07:07 | drojf | and what is the question? | 
| 07:07 | wahanui | the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" | 
| 07:08 | drojf | heh | 
| 07:08 | mbalmer | and what is the answer? | 
| 07:08 | wahanui | i think the answer is always go back to sleep or 42 | 
| 07:10 | drojf | wahanui botsnack beer | 
| 07:10 | wahanui | thanks drojf :) | 
| 07:10 | cait | hey! | 
| 07:10 | drojf | a happy little bot ;) | 
| 07:10 | cait | ts | 
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| 07:11 | drojf | whois: what do you need help with? | 
| 07:11 | whois | My current problem is as follows: | 
| 07:11 | + For cataloging Seach: I can find the word "harry potter" | |
| 07:11 | Seach for the catalog +: I do not find the word "harry potter" and receive the following message: "No results match your search for 'kw, wrdl: harry potter' in Library Catalog System." | |
| 07:11 | Note: the OPAC interface not found any word, for example from "harry potter" | |
| 07:11 | you can fix this Christmas? not? | |
| 07:14 | drojf | whois: sounds like you have to (re)index your files | 
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| 07:22 | whois | can you give me the solution does not fix? | 
| 07:28 | My current problem is as follows: | |
| 07:28 | wahanui | i already had it that way, whois. | 
| 07:28 | whois | 1). Seach for cataloging: I can find the word "harry potter" | 
| 07:28 | 2). Seach for the catalog: I do not find the word "harry potter" and receive the following message: "No results match your search for 'kw, wrdl: harry potter' in Library Catalog System." | |
| 07:28 | Note: the OPAC interface not found any word, for example word "harry potter" | |
| 07:28 | => can you give me the solution fix? | |
| 07:29 | drojf | whois: http://koha-community.org/faq/[…]ch-stuff-up-help/ | 
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| 07:36 | connor_l_dewar | who is wahanui | 
| 07:36 | wahanui | rumour has it i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow | 
| 07:37 | connor_l_dewar | can you tell me a joke | 
| 07:37 | can you tell me a joke wahanui | |
| 07:37 | @wahanui jokes? | |
| 07:37 | huginn | connor_l_dewar: I've exhausted my database of quotes | 
| 07:37 | cait | connor_l_dewar: you woudl have to find the right words :) | 
| 07:37 | germs? | |
| 07:37 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. | 
| 07:38 | connor_l_dewar | haha this is highly entertaining if i couldwork it | 
| 07:39 | what is wahanui | |
| 07:39 | wahanui | i guess i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow. | 
| 07:39 | connor_l_dewar | how old is wahanui | 
| 07:40 | cait | first question? | 
| 07:40 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" | 
| 07:40 | cait | second question? | 
| 07:40 | wahanui | second question is, like, "What is the exact error message?" | 
| 07:40 | cait | third question? | 
| 07:40 | wahanui | third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/[…]ion-koha-running/ | 
| 07:40 | whois | I installed koha 3.8.1 follow the instructions at: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git; a = blob; f = INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid; hb = HEAD | 
| 07:40 | _ I installed under: Option B: Download Koha from http://download.koha-community.org | |
| 07:40 | _ Now I fai reconfigure zebra by any commands line? | |
| 07:41 | connor_l_dewar | i found this great article http://www.codeproject.com/Art[…]oping-AI-chatbots and then mum told me about this so i thought id check it out. | 
| 07:45 | cait | i am not sure about the software | 
| 07:45 | perhaps you can find something in the wiki | |
| 07:45 | connor_l_dewar | I need to work out how to do in python but that article outlines the methods | 
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| 08:02 | Waylon | hiya all! | 
| 08:03 | how would i use siege with koha, with a login required server? | |
| 08:10 | whois | thank you: drojf, wajasu, and all | 
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| 08:48 | mle | : ) | 
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| 08:57 | cait | hi mle :) | 
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| 09:12 | mle | hey cait ;) | 
| 09:12 | its wonderful to be able to put faces to anmes. : ) | |
| 09:12 | names even! | |
| 09:13 | cait | :) | 
| 09:13 | yeah it is! | |
| 09:14 | can you hear the voices too? ;) | |
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| 09:18 | mle_afk | cait: nein | 
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| 09:19 | cait | ooh | 
| 09:19 | hey eythian | |
| 09:19 | eythian | hi | 
| 09:19 | cait | in brighton now? | 
| 09:19 | eythian | yep | 
| 09:19 | just getting stuff set up | |
| 09:19 | jcamins_away: I'll hopefully get on to that today | |
| 09:20 | cait | :) | 
| 09:20 | * mle_afk | waves to eythian | 
| 09:20 | eythian | hiya mle | 
| 09:20 | * cait | got a great photo of mle in a kilt :D | 
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| 09:21 | mle | : / | 
| 09:21 | cait | oooh don't look like that | 
| 09:22 | * mle | is worried | 
| 09:22 | cait | what about? | 
| 09:23 | mle | nothing really, just the normal photographic shyness i guess | 
| 09:23 | drojf | hi mle | 
| 09:23 | cait | aw | 
| 09:24 | but you looked great :) | |
| 09:24 | drojf | mle: the heather ale is pretty nice! | 
| 09:25 | mle | droif: it will protect you from midges if you have enough of it | 
| 09:26 | droif: i am glad you like it, i think it is an unusual flavour. they are a really cool brewery too, an early entry in the craft market | |
| 09:27 | drojf | you can actually order it online in germany, they seem to have a problem with the german recycling system though, one shop had to take it out again before that is settled | 
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| 09:29 | drojf | looking forward to try their other ales. i may continue doing that in the bathtub, worked quite well the first time | 
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| 09:32 | mle | heheheh | 
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| 09:46 | vfernandes | hi guys | 
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| 09:48 | vfernandes | one little question: the koha notices templates supports HTML? | 
| 09:48 | can I put an image in the template? | |
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| 10:08 | cait | bug 7943 | 
| 10:08 | wahanui | bug 7943 is perfect, thanks. | 
| 10:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7943 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Untranslatable strings in OPAC's authority search | 
| 10:09 | cait | bug 6720 | 
| 10:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6720 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Saved authorities always show as 'Default' | 
| 10:10 | cait | 8206 | 
| 10:10 | bug 8206 | |
| 10:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC | 
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| 10:12 | cait | bug 8205 | 
| 10:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8205 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Should be possible to hide unused authorities in OPAC | 
| 10:13 | drojf | eythian: there are actually arm packages for idzebra-2.0 and mysql-server in the debian repository. just need koha packages at main/binary-armel/Packages for raspberry koha ;) | 
| 10:15 | eythian | drojf: that should be possible - at the moment it does amd64 and i386,l however they're not really binary packages so would work anyway. | 
| 10:15 | I'll have to figure out how it determines which arch to create | |
| 10:15 | drojf | that would be great! | 
| 10:16 | eythian | debian/control has "Architecture: all" so it's probably a matter of changing a default somewhere in the build system | 
| 10:17 | cait | jcamins_away: awake? | 
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| 10:21 | drojf | eythian: so it would work if i could get apt to just use the i386 part of the repository? (if that is possible somehow) | 
| 10:21 | eythian | drojf: it should, I don't think there are any XS modules in there (though there will be eventually for the solr stuff) | 
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| 10:41 | drojf | eythian: i got it tweaked to use i386 packages. i need 600mb diskspace though, only have ~400mb free on the small sd card so i can't try it now | 
| 10:41 | eythian | why does it need so much disk? | 
| 10:41 | drojf | dependencies i guess. 197 packages | 
| 10:42 | eythian | I suppose, there are a lot of them | 
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| 10:48 | jcamins | cait: unfortunately yes. | 
| 10:48 | cait | oh | 
| 10:49 | I only wanted to ask about the overlay patch | |
| 10:49 | jcamins | Don't sign off on that one yet. | 
| 10:49 | I attached the wrong patch. | |
| 10:49 | cait | oki | 
| 10:50 | jcamins | fredericd++ | 
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| 11:55 | oleonard | Hi #koha | 
| 11:55 | cait | hi oleonard :) | 
| 11:57 | * oleonard | is happy to be back at his own computer today | 
| 11:58 | cait | :) | 
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| 12:05 | wajasu | :) | 
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| 12:23 | eythian | http://www.froot.nl/wp-content[…]6/woordgrap11.jpg | 
| 12:24 | jcamins | Hehe. | 
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| 13:40 | jcamins | Wow. That's a lot of people joining and quitting. | 
| 13:41 | cait1 | perhaps time to hand out some duct tape again? | 
| 13:43 | oleonard | No time to stay and work. I've got a lot of coming and going to do! | 
| 13:44 | cait1 | ah | 
| 13:44 | when I keep up walking around at work it normally means I have to write slides for a presentation | |
| 13:44 | keep getting up and walking around annoying my coworkers... ;) | |
| 13:44 | jcamins | lol | 
| 13:44 | cait1 | hm | 
| 13:44 | I think I have figure it out | |
| 13:45 | it's the only $a | |
| 13:45 | but | |
| 13:45 | it's labelled irritatingly | |
| 13:45 | ah, wrong window, but doesn' tmatter :) | |
| 13:45 | * cait1 | is playing with authority search | 
| 13:45 | oleonard | Wheee! | 
| 13:46 | cait1 | whee? ;) | 
| 13:46 | jcamins: when I select the tab an explanation is on top | |
| 13:46 | jcamins: but ... it still feels kinda wrong to me | |
| 13:46 | * wizzyrea | waves | 
| 13:46 | jcamins | Oh, there it is. | 
| 13:47 | cait1: agreed. | |
| 13:47 | I don't like the options for searching in the authority module. | |
| 13:47 | My improved options in the OPAC are much more useful. | |
| 13:47 | * jcamins | waves back. | 
| 13:47 | cait1 | hope you don't mind... I am adding some enhancement ideas to the bug report | 
| 13:47 | jcamins | cait1: please do. | 
| 13:48 | cait1: actually, chances are good that some of the suggestions are already underway. | |
| 13:48 | cait1 | even better :) | 
| 13:48 | I think it should remembermy search term | |
| 13:49 | jcamins | You are signing off on patch one of 20ish. | 
| 13:49 | cait1 | hm maybe I am wrong, but the search term shows up nowhwere | 
| 13:49 | jcamins | cait1: you are right. | 
| 13:49 | Good point. | |
| 13:51 | * cait1 | is thinking about datatables | 
| 13:51 | hides | |
| 13:51 | jcamins | Datatables? | 
| 13:51 | cait1 | well | 
| 13:51 | did you realize the pagination on top and on bottom of authority search looks differently? | |
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| 13:53 | cait1 | and wouldn't it be nice to see the authtype in the reulst list? | 
| 13:53 | jcamins | You mean in the staff client? | 
| 13:53 | cait1 | yep | 
| 13:53 | * jcamins | isn't rewriting the authorities module in the staff client, sorry. | 
| 13:53 | cait1 | I can still note it :) | 
| 13:53 | jcamins | I think noting what the search is would be nice, though. | 
| 13:53 | cait1 | maybe your customer sees it... | 
| 13:53 | jcamins | Hehe. | 
| 13:55 | cait1 | hm | 
| 13:55 | in staff we say details | |
| 13:55 | in opac we say: View full heading | |
| 13:56 | In wonder if details wouldn't be easier to understand for people? | |
| 13:56 | jcamins: bad news | |
| 13:56 | wahanui | i guess bad news is that you're probably royally screwed | 
| 13:57 | cait1 | Template process failed: file error - /home/katrin/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-authoritiesdetail.tt: not found at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 127. | 
| 13:57 | jcamins | Hmm. | 
| 13:57 | Lemme check why that is. | |
| 13:57 | cait1 | when I click on "view full heading" | 
| 13:58 | jcamins | I will upload a new patch with the correction. | 
| 13:58 | (that's from a follow-up) | |
| 13:58 | Remind me which bug we're on? | |
| 13:58 | 7943. | |
| 13:58 | cait1 | you are faster than me | 
| 13:59 | and can you do a follow up? | |
| 13:59 | oh well, guess I can copy my notes | |
| 13:59 | jcamins | Sure, a follow-up would be easy. | 
| 14:00 | cait1 | whatever you prefer :) | 
| 14:00 | I will get another juice | |
| 14:02 | hm probably too much sugar | |
| 14:02 | jcamins | Yay! | 
| 14:02 | Sugar! | |
| 14:03 | * jcamins | bounces enthusiastically on his exercise ball. | 
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| 14:04 | jcamins | Oh, bother. | 
| 14:04 | This database update is going to take ages. | |
| 14:04 | cait1 | heh | 
| 14:04 | what about my fixed patch? | |
| 14:04 | wait or better move on to something else? | |
| 14:05 | jcamins | I'm just about to upload it. | 
| 14:06 | cait1 | ah | 
| 14:06 | you renamed the file | |
| 14:06 | so the link will not work | |
| 14:06 | opac-auth_MARCdetail | |
| 14:06 | jcamins | Attached. | 
| 14:06 | cait1 | k | 
| 14:07 | thx :) | |
| 14:07 | almost glad I found something -makes me feel like a serious tester ;) | |
| 14:07 | jcamins | :) | 
| 14:09 | wizzyrea | looks like the holidays bug has escaped | 
| 14:09 | is there a proper bug for that | |
| 14:09 | bug 8110 | |
| 14:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8110 normal, P5 - low, ---, savitra.sirohi, In Discussion , Fines accruing on closed days | 
| 14:10 | cait1 | hm | 
| 14:10 | slow internet | |
| 14:10 | takes minutes for git bz apply | |
| 14:10 | nengard | but 8243 | 
| 14:10 | bug 8243 | |
| 14:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8243 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , calendar being ignored | 
| 14:10 | cait1 | hi nengard | 
| 14:10 | nengard | there are two bug reports | 
| 14:10 | cait1 | hi wizzyrea | 
| 14:10 | :) | |
| 14:10 | nengard | related to the calendar | 
| 14:10 | :( | |
| 14:10 | wizzyrea | yea they are both blockers imo' | 
| 14:10 | nengard | I agree | 
| 14:11 | but when i put blocker on it's always removed so I didn't do that | |
| 14:11 | jcamins | Is the problem in 3.6.x? | 
| 14:11 | wizzyrea | well I'm going to keep changing it to blocker | 
| 14:11 | no | |
| 14:11 | not that I know of | |
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| 14:11 | wizzyrea | seriously, when patrons money is involved | 
| 14:11 | jcamins | Good. | 
| 14:11 | wizzyrea | you just don't screw around. | 
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| 14:12 | wizzyrea | nengard did you file a bug for the double fines thing too? | 
| 14:12 | nengard | i agree wizzyrea | 
| 14:12 | wizzyrea | here again, money = blocker. | 
| 14:12 | nengard | um ?. no because we haven't tracked down what's causing it yet | 
| 14:12 | kyleh is researching | |
| 14:12 | wizzyrea | doesn't matter | 
| 14:12 | file ti | |
| 14:12 | it | |
| 14:13 | koha community minds > one mind | |
| 14:13 | nengard | filing | 
| 14:13 | the problem was that we didn't see it consistently ? so we weren't sure if it was us or KOha | |
| 14:13 | Koha | |
| 14:14 | Bug 8253 | |
| 14:14 | wizzyrea | well, whatever it is | 
| 14:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8253 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fine doubling | 
| 14:14 | wizzyrea | no doubt that it's better to have more eyes on it | 
| 14:14 | as it has to do with fines. | |
| 14:14 | nothing discredits a library faster than incorrect fines. | |
| 14:14 | NOTHING. | |
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| 14:15 | Waylon | fines-- | 
| 14:15 | wizzyrea | awesome, thanks | 
| 14:15 | yes, agreed on that point | |
| 14:15 | * cait1 | sends wizzyrea some cookies | 
| 14:15 | Waylon | wizzyrea++ | 
| 14:15 | cait1 | calming cookies | 
| 14:15 | jcamins | wizzyrea: the discovery that the recently-hired director was a felon who is stealing all the library's books? | 
| 14:15 | wizzyrea | hey, I had a library where that happened | 
| 14:15 | cait1 | ah | 
| 14:15 | Waylon | damn | 
| 14:15 | cait1 | referring to the library in italy? | 
| 14:16 | jcamins | Hehe. | 
| 14:16 | Yes. | |
| 14:16 | * wizzyrea | is not, I was referring to the Tonganoxie library several directors ago | 
| 14:16 | nengard | that's a story i've heard many other times | 
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | something like 15k in credit card purchases on the library card for "books" that went into the director's house | 
| 14:16 | nengard | sad ? but true | 
| 14:17 | wizzyrea | yea, you'll find corruption anywhere | 
| 14:17 | Waylon | Although, i volunteered at a library (the one i started with koha for), and one of our most frequent borrowers, and lecturers.. was not only stealing the books, but selling them to used book stores. | 
| 14:17 | jcamins | cait++ | 
| 14:17 | wizzyrea | oh wow | 
| 14:18 | yea, we have patrons in our area | |
| 14:18 | that go from library to library stealing DVD's | |
| 14:18 | the consortium has made it a lot easier to spot these patrons | |
| 14:18 | Waylon | i mean, some of these books were priceless, being a spiritual centre. | 
| 14:18 | wizzyrea | as they use the same account in every library | 
| 14:19 | jcamins | Wow. | 
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| 14:19 | cait1 | ok | 
| 14:19 | first one done :) | |
| 14:19 | moving on to next | |
| 14:19 | bug 6720 | |
| 14:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6720 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Saved authorities always show as 'Default' | 
| 14:20 | cait1 | with an additional thank you to jared for fixing that :) | 
| 14:20 | as i filed it in august 2011 | |
| 14:23 | jcamins | Glad to be of service. | 
| 14:27 | cait1 | ok, easy to test, signed off and moving on | 
| 14:28 | oh | |
| 14:28 | the next one is harder | |
| 14:28 | bug 8206 | |
| 14:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC | 
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| 14:34 | cait1 | hm jcamins? - perhaps bad news | 
| 14:35 | I am testng the authority search options | |
| 14:35 | and I do a search for "anton" | |
| 14:35 | and I get lots of results, one of those is used for/see from: Bucher, Anton | |
| 14:35 | so shouldn't I find that one when searching for anton with the last search option for see from? | |
| 14:36 | jcamins | Yes. | 
| 14:36 | Did you reindex? | |
| 14:36 | cait1 | your test plan didn't say so | 
| 14:37 | jcamins | Oops. | 
| 14:37 | Sorry! | |
| 14:37 | cait1 | I am doing it now, but your patch does no change to the indexes? | 
| 14:37 | jcamins | Oh, that may be dependent on the overlay patch, then. | 
| 14:37 | I'll have to split them up a bit. | |
| 14:37 | cait1 | can you chck? researching is a bit painful for me righ tnow | 
| 14:38 | slow internet | |
| 14:38 | jcamins | Yep. After I finish my follow-up to 6720. | 
| 14:38 | cait1 | :) | 
| 14:38 | nengard | has anyone notices that isbn and issn searches on z targets aren't finding results?? | 
| 14:38 | cait1 | me | 
| 14:38 | I have one target that stubbornly refuses to work, while it does using yaz :( | |
| 14:39 | might be more, but that was the one I got the report for | |
| 14:39 | and it seems not broken on their side | |
| 14:39 | jcamins: moving on for now :) | |
| 14:40 | jcamins | Additional patch 6720. | 
| 14:40 | *on bug 6720 | |
| 14:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6720 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Saved authorities always show as 'Default' | 
| 14:41 | cait1 | added a note on 8206 | 
| 14:41 | moving back to 6720 | |
| 14:43 | sekjal | hi, #koha! | 
| 14:44 | jcamins | Hi, sekjal! | 
| 14:44 | Wanna QA something cool? | |
| 14:44 | sekjal | jcamins: I do; today is the Scholarly Retreat at the library | 
| 14:45 | jcamins | Bug 7943 is very cool! | 
| 14:45 | cait1 | ohoh, jcamins has switched into qa nagging mode ;) | 
| 14:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7943 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Untranslatable strings in OPAC's authority search | 
| 14:45 | jcamins | ;D | 
| 14:45 | cait1 | hi sekjal :) | 
| 14:45 | but he is right - it's cool, because it fixes translatability and rewrites some really evil code | |
| 14:46 | sekjal | hi, cait1 | 
| 14:46 | jcamins: will look at that one next | |
| 14:47 | my goal is to get the QAQ under 10 | |
| 14:47 | we'll see how well I do | |
| 14:47 | jcamins | sekjal++ | 
| 14:47 | cait1 | sekjal++ | 
| 14:47 | ok, working on 8205 now | |
| 14:47 | bug 8205 | |
| 14:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8205 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Should be possible to hide unused authorities in OPAC | 
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | oleonard: no icons yet, but what do you think of this: http://screencast.com/t/nzQQICIVg3p | 
| 14:51 | oleonard | I wonder if we even need "set library" there since it's in the header at all times | 
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | Ooo good point | 
| 14:51 | * oleonard | honestly didn't notice it was on that page | 
| 14:51 | cait1 | neither did I :) | 
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| 14:52 | * oleonard | wishes wizzyrea good luck finding icons that differentiate all those holds reports | 
| 14:52 | cait1 | oh yes | 
| 14:52 | well... i don't need icons | |
| 14:52 | oleonard | ^ and that's why icons are problematic | 
| 14:53 | cait1 | is that the right time to say - I dislike icons? | 
| 14:53 | ;) | |
| 14:53 | oleonard | What about a set of icons for the top 4 functions, say check out check in transfer and fast cataloging, then a box under all that with report links? | 
| 14:54 | cait1 | I tihnk another problem is grouping | 
| 14:54 | the new buttons ar enice | |
| 14:54 | but it's also nice to have some groups - holds reports for example | |
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| 14:54 | cait1 | hierarchies | 
| 14:54 | * jcamins | would like rolldown trays for things that are less commonly used. | 
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | I like these ideas | 
| 14:55 | but I don't like hiding things, sorry jcamins. | |
| 14:55 | people don't find them | |
| 14:55 | cait1 | I think it#s hard to tell what's not commonly used here | 
| 14:55 | the only time I go to that page is when I want to run a report from it | |
| 14:55 | for checkout and checkin I use other paths | |
| 14:56 | jcamins | wizzyrea: we don't have an authority search/new authority link at all from the main page anymore. | 
| 14:56 | wizzyrea: so adding a roll-down tray would reduce clicks for those of us who use those links regularly. | |
| 14:56 | cait1 | now you scared gaetan_B away :) | 
| 14:56 | wizzyrea | well *there* it might make sense, but i'm not sure there is anything that is "not commonly used" on circ-home | 
| 14:57 | clrh | cait1: have to catch his train :) | 
| 14:57 | jcamins | wizzyrea: for me, "circ" would fall under that heading. | 
| 14:57 | :P | |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | you aren't typical :P | 
| 14:57 | cait1 | clrh: :) | 
| 14:58 | wizzyrea | but yes, I like the idea of icons for some things, and lists of reports for others | 
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| 14:59 | cait1 | jcamins: hmmmmmm | 
| 14:59 | * wizzyrea | will piddle about some more | 
| 14:59 | cait1 | I have lots of erros in my logs... | 
| 14:59 | or warnings | |
| 14:59 | jcamins | cait1: you do? | 
| 14:59 | Uh-oh. | |
| 14:59 | That's not good. | |
| 14:59 | cait1 | probably warnings | 
| 14:59 | but I still want to ask you to fix it :) | |
| 14:59 | jcamins | If you tell me what they are, I will. | 
| 15:00 | cait1 | [Fri Jun 15 16:57:49 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Fri Jun 15 16:57:49 2012] opac-authorities-home.pl: Use of uninitialized value $i in string eq at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm line 255., referer: http://localhost/cgi-bin/koha/[…]thorities-home.pl | 
| 15:00 | seems to happen with each authority search | |
| 15:00 | lots | |
| 15:01 | jcamins | Yikes. | 
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | well here's "add patron" http://thenounproject.com/noun[…]brary/#icon-No682 | 
| 15:01 | jcamins | I will look to see what that is. | 
| 15:01 | * wizzyrea | sighs | 
| 15:01 | cait1 | hm seems on current master too | 
| 15:01 | but if you would still take a look it would clean up the logs quite a bit | |
| 15:01 | seems I get one line for each search result | |
| 15:02 | * wizzyrea | considers this for hold queue | 
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | http://thenounproject.com/noun/bomb/#icon-No338 | 
| 15:03 | jcamins | Wait... | 
| 15:03 | You get that error on master? | |
| 15:03 | cait1 | hm | 
| 15:03 | yes | |
| 15:03 | Ithink so | |
| 15:03 | I can retest | |
| 15:04 | but before I have to tell you something unpleasant about the unused authorities | |
| 15:04 | jcamins | I've been troubleshooting an error that I think might be caused by that. | 
| 15:04 | What's that? | |
| 15:04 | cait1 | I have in use a person with ab and a subject absurdes theater, when I turn the hiding on and search for ab, only the person is found | 
| 15:04 | when I search for absurd it shows correctly my other | |
| 15:04 | jcamins | Is absurdes theater used? | 
| 15:04 | cait1 | it is | 
| 15:05 | reiveune | bye$ | 
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| 15:05 | cait1 | when I search for absurd it shows up | 
| 15:05 | I only don't get them both on one result list | |
| 15:05 | jcamins | But it shows up when you search for ab? | 
| 15:05 | cait1 | maybe something with the maximum retrieved? paging? | 
| 15:05 | with ab only the person shows up | |
| 15:05 | abel-struth | |
| 15:06 | I only have very few linked records in this catalog | |
| 15:06 | I get a reswult list with 1 result | |
| 15:06 | and lots of paging on top | |
| 15:06 | jcamins | cait1: I mean, when you don't have the syspref turned on, ab shows them both? | 
| 15:06 | "ab" shouldn't ever bring up "absurdes" in the default search. | |
| 15:06 | cait1 | why not? | 
| 15:06 | sekjal | jcamins: bug 7943 processed | 
| 15:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7943 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Untranslatable strings in OPAC's authority search | 
| 15:06 | cait1 | well, it's a paging problem I think | 
| 15:07 | if I page, the records are there | |
| 15:07 | but some pages are empty | |
| 15:07 | and others have only very few results | |
| 15:07 | jcamins | Because the default search is absurd. | 
| 15:07 | Yay! | |
| 15:07 | cait1 | I suppose you just hide the records unused? | 
| 15:07 | jcamins | sekjal++ | 
| 15:07 | cait1 | without redoing the paging? | 
| 15:07 | jcamins | cait1: right. That's why it changes the count. | 
| 15:07 | (it says "about X records") | |
| 15:08 | cait1 | Showing 2 of about 155 results | 
| 15:08 | it's confusing | |
| 15:08 | I know it's probably hard to fix that | |
| 15:08 | but... it's very confusing | |
| 15:08 | jcamins | cait1: I wouldn't recommend you turn the syspref on. :P | 
| 15:08 | cait1 | I missed the paging the first time, because I assumed only 1 rsult was right | 
| 15:08 | jcamins: is that a proper solution to the problem? ;) | |
| 15:08 | jcamins | cait1: unfortunately, yes. | 
| 15:09 | cait1: it's the same reason the opachiddenitems syspref is so unpleasant to use. | |
| 15:09 | cait1 | my result pages 7 and 8 are empty, 6 shows one record... and so on | 
| 15:09 | meh. | |
| 15:09 | jcamins | With solr we may be able to work around it, but Zebra doesn't really give us any option. :( | 
| 15:09 | cait1 | we do paging wrong then. | 
| 15:09 | jcamins | We sure do! | 
| 15:10 | cait1 | hm | 
| 15:10 | it's an optoin | |
| 15:10 | I could sign off on it with a note | |
| 15:10 | but it really looks not nice with my badly linked data | |
| 15:10 | jcamins | Paging should be done consistently, but until we move all the search code to one place (Koha::SearchEngine), we can't do that. | 
| 15:11 | :( | |
| 15:11 | cait1 | oh, don't do the sad smiley on me! | 
| 15:11 | jcamins | Actually, the problem will be fixed to a large extent by my proposed RecordProcessor, though that's more a side effect than anything else. | 
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| 15:14 | jcamins | But before my RecordProcessor code can be submitted, bug 7943 needs to be pushed. | 
| 15:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7943 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Untranslatable strings in OPAC's authority search | 
| 15:15 | jcamins | Yay! | 
| 15:15 | cait++ | |
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| 15:19 | druthb | o/ | 
| 15:19 | oleonard | Hi druthb | 
| 15:20 | druthb | hi, oleonard! | 
| 15:20 | cait1 | hi druthb | 
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| 15:20 | mib_m1g889 | helllo guys | 
| 15:20 | oleonard | On the batch mod screen is it more technically correct to say "check to delete subfield 3" or "check to delete the value of subfield 3?" | 
| 15:20 | druthb | hi, cait1 :) | 
| 15:21 | mib_m1g889 | query about sql under Koha | 
| 15:21 | anyone can help plz | |
| 15:21 | wizzyrea | just ask :) | 
| 15:21 | eythian | mib_m1g889: you're going to have to ask a question before anyone can help | 
| 15:23 | cait1 | eythian: I still have to get used to you at this time of the day :) | 
| 15:23 | jcamins | eythian: wow, that's really weird. | 
| 15:23 | mib_m1g889 | Is there any relationship maitained (PK - FK) for the table action_logs and borrowers Table | 
| 15:23 | jcamins | schema? | 
| 15:23 | wahanui | somebody said schema was tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org | 
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| 15:26 | cait1 | ok | 
| 15:26 | running out of battery | |
| 15:26 | bbl | |
| 15:26 | druthb | kk | 
| 15:27 | eythian | How do people typically do items in stack? Have a location, ccode, or item type, or have the stack as a branch? | 
| 15:27 | jcamins | eythian: what do you mean? | 
| 15:28 | eythian | jcamins: you have books in the stack (i.e. in the back room, not the general collection) and people can get them out by asking a librarian to go fetch them | 
| 15:28 | jcamins | I use location. | 
| 15:28 | eythian | That's what I was thinking would be most appropriate | 
| 15:28 | cait1 | eythian: we use a location | 
| 15:28 | jcamins | ccode would also work, if there's a logical collection division. | 
| 15:28 | eythian | The library asked for a separate item type | 
| 15:28 | cait1 | eythian: to have the allowonshelfholds in circ matrix would help quite a bit | 
| 15:29 | eythian | which I didn't think was correct | 
| 15:29 | cait1 | but as long as this is global... not much difference in how you do it I think | 
| 15:29 | I mean no method with big advantage over another afaikt | |
| 15:29 | jcamins | eythian: separate itemtype makes sense if they circulate differently. | 
| 15:29 | eythian | yeah | 
| 15:30 | cait1 | eythian: itemtype can be correct too - for managing hold sfor those items | 
| 15:30 | eythian | I guess I need more details from them | 
| 15:30 | cait1: why managing holds? | |
| 15:30 | cait1 | I think they want to put holds on them? | 
| 15:30 | so they know they have to get ti? | |
| 15:30 | or do they prefer people ask for it and not have people place holds on those? than you could do that with the circ rules | |
| 15:31 | eythian | I dunno | 
| 15:31 | cait1 | and you could limit (if maxreserves was working) how many stack holds a person can do | 
| 15:31 | but the problem is | |
| 15:31 | eythian | it's a small community library | 
| 15:31 | cait1 | atm all those features are quite broken probably | 
| 15:31 | eythian | so probably just like it was on the shelf | 
| 15:32 | wizzyrea | I always think of itemtypes as "types of things that circulate," Locations as "physical places those itemtypes live," and collection codes as "groups of like things" | 
| 15:32 | cait1 | ^^ | 
| 15:32 | SJeffery | ^^ | 
| 15:32 | eythian | yeah, that's my distiction too | 
| 15:33 | wizzyrea | but cait is right, hold limits are broooken right now | 
| 15:33 | tcohen | hi #koha | 
| 15:33 | is ian here? | |
| 15:33 | wizzyrea | @seen sekjal | 
| 15:33 | huginn | wizzyrea: sekjal was last seen in #koha 26 minutes and 52 seconds ago: <sekjal> jcamins: bug 7943 processed | 
| 15:33 | jcamins | sekjal was a moment ago. | 
| 15:33 | wizzyrea | seems so | 
| 15:33 | cait1 | oook, now I am really leaving | 
| 15:34 | bbl from home :) | |
| 15:34 | wizzyrea | later :) | 
| 15:34 | tcohen | sekjal is ian? :-D | 
| 15:34 | wizzyrea | irc regulars? | 
| 15:34 | wahanui | irc regulars is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars | 
| 15:34 | wizzyrea | ;) | 
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| 15:34 | sekjal | my name is Ian, yes | 
| 15:34 | one of a couple in the Koha community, though | |
| 15:34 | tcohen | do u have a minute to talk about | 
| 15:35 | _FixFineDaysOnReturn | |
| 15:35 | sekjal | tcohen: sure | 
| 15:35 | tcohen | ( deltadays - grace )->is_positive is true for 0 and 0 | 
| 15:36 | SJeffery | lol, I never realized that sekjal=ian | 
| 15:36 | tcohen | ence we are debarring patrons when check-in occurs the same day the check-out happened | 
| 15:36 | (using finedays of course) | |
| 15:37 | sekjal | tcohen: that's what the thread on koha-devel was leading me to believe, yes | 
| 15:37 | tcohen | indeed | 
| 15:37 | sekjal | so we need to change our comparison | 
| 15:37 | tcohen | i was asked by bgk to check that | 
| 15:37 | as we are going into production with 3.8 | |
| 15:38 | jcamins | tcohen: you are? | 
| 15:38 | tcohen: are you sure you want to do that? | |
| 15:38 | tcohen | now we are not | 
| 15:38 | jcamins | tcohen: I mean, seriously, you've considered this at length and written out pros and cons? | 
| 15:39 | tcohen | jcamins, no | 
| 15:39 | jcamins | Not to be pessimistic, but .1 is early. | 
| 15:39 | tcohen | haven't found a pros and cons list | 
| 15:40 | jcamins | tcohen: you can, of course, go to 3.8 if you'd like, I just hear more about problems with that decision than I do about benefits. ;) | 
| 15:41 | tcohen | jcamins, i've tons of koha-devel emails to read | 
| 15:41 | been out for a while | |
| 15:41 | jcamins | tcohen: fair enough. | 
| 15:42 | tcohen | (from koha stuff) | 
| 15:42 | jcamins | Welcome back. | 
| 15:42 | dpavlin is going to be redoing the caching code. | |
| 15:42 | * jcamins | is very excited. :) | 
| 15:42 | SJeffery | jcamins: I am looking at the 3.8 bugs list and nothing is jumping out as being a major issue...? | 
| 15:42 | tcohen | yes, i've read bout it | 
| 15:42 | and i'm glad to hear that! | |
| 15:42 | sekjal | tcohen: so it looks like the problem is in Koha::Calendar | 
| 15:43 | tcohen | if you're using finedays, wait until we get that fixed | 
| 15:43 | sekjal | we're getting the absolute value of days between due and today, rather than a positive or negative duration | 
| 15:43 | wizzyrea | SJeffery: oh my | 
| 15:43 | so many bugs. | |
| 15:43 | bad bugs | |
| 15:43 | double fines | |
| 15:43 | no hold limits | |
| 15:43 | oleonard | If you're using hold limits wait until we get that fixed (unless it's already broken in your installation) | 
| 15:43 | wizzyrea | calendar days not working | 
| 15:43 | dropbox mode not working | |
| 15:44 | tcohen | _FixFineDaysOnReturn->deltadays: 0 | 
| 15:44 | _FixFineDaysOnReturn->grace: 0 | |
| 15:44 | SJeffery | ah, ok. We do not use holds, serials module, acquisitions module, fines, or checkout periods:) | 
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | due dates set at 00:00 instead of 23:59 | 
| 15:44 | SJeffery | That could be why I do not see anything! | 
| 15:44 | tcohen | ( deltadays - grace )->is_positive = 1 | 
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | yea, that would explain it. | 
| 15:44 | ;) | |
| 15:44 | basically, if you only want to catalog stuff, you're pretty good | |
| 15:44 | jcamins | SJeffery: it's little problems that add up to a big nuisance... lots of issues with fines, some with holds, the UI isn't quite finished, etc. | 
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | if you want to circ | 
| 15:44 | with all of the | |
| 15:44 | @quote get 123 | |
| 15:44 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) | 
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | mad schemes | 
| 15:44 | that libraries like to do | |
| 15:44 | jcamins | Except that authority linking may be broken in 3.8.1. | 
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | don't use 3.8 | 
| 15:45 | * jcamins | bangs his head on the desk. | 
| 15:45 | sekjal | ::sigh:: | 
| 15:45 | jcamins | I just fixed it! | 
| 15:45 | *Just* fixed it. | |
| 15:45 | tcohen | authority linking? finedays? | 
| 15:45 | jcamins | Under six months ago fixed it. | 
| 15:45 | The patch got into 3.6.x a month ago. | |
| 15:45 | SJeffery | I have no clue what mad schemes you could be referring to *whistles innocently* | 
| 15:46 | eythian | I used that patch on a slightly older 3.6, it worked magically | 
| 15:46 | jcamins | eythian: authority linking works beautifully on 3.6.x. | 
| 15:50 | slef | hi all | 
| 15:51 | drojf | hey slef | 
| 15:51 | eythian | hello slef | 
| 15:52 | * wizzyrea | waves to slef the kohacon conquering hero! | 
| 15:53 | slef | wizzyrea: it only looks that way because several other volunteers had to do tasks away from the hall... like getting HMRC to release the book bags | 
| 15:53 | wizzyrea | pft | 
| 15:53 | modest as always | |
| 15:54 | slef | it was fun... but very tiring | 
| 15:54 | and I've done over 1000 miles since 4pm Monday | |
| 15:54 | so looking forward to the England football match tonight | |
| 15:55 | and listening to the French getting beat just now | |
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| 15:57 | wizzyrea | 1000 miles… on bike? | 
| 15:57 | or... | |
| 15:58 | slef | foot, car, bike, train, bike, car | 
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | good heavens. | 
| 15:58 | mostly train though eh | |
| 15:58 | slef | mostly car, sadly | 
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | ooo | 
| 15:59 | slef | we lugged too much kit between edinburgh and Norfolk to use the train | 
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| 16:05 | oleonard | Item batch mod can't set lost status? | 
| 16:07 | wizzyrea | wha? | 
| 16:07 | srsly? that used to work. | |
| 16:07 | oleonard | I don't see it in the list of subfields | 
| 16:07 | * wizzyrea | looks | 
| 16:08 | oleonard | Wait, is my framework messed up? | 
| 16:08 | eythian | that sounds plausible | 
| 16:09 | jcamins | eythian: what is it that I had asked you to do? | 
| 16:09 | eythian | <jcamins> Could you please upload a package for libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl to the oldstable dist on debian.koha-community.org? | 
| 16:09 | jcamins | You said you were working on it, but I have no recollection what "it" is. | 
| 16:09 | Ah. | |
| 16:09 | Thanks. | |
| 16:09 | eythian | probably not today actually | 
| 16:09 | given it's after 5 already | |
| 16:09 | jcamins | That's not going into 3.6.6 anyway. | 
| 16:09 | eythian | OK cool | 
| 16:09 | wizzyrea | oleonard: I don't see it either | 
| 16:09 | in master… let me check 3.8 | |
| 16:09 | 3.6 | |
| 16:10 | eythian | who scans a bunch of items just to mark them lost anyway? They're clearly in your pile ;) | 
| 16:10 | wizzyrea | it's subfield 1 | 
| 16:10 | and it's in 3.6 | |
| 16:11 | actually that's a really good point ^.^ | |
| 16:11 | jcamins | eythian: you mark them not lost. | 
| 16:11 | eythian | Oh, you just "happened" to find them behind the couch eh? | 
| 16:11 | suspicious | |
| 16:12 | oleonard | eythian: Because don't tell me what to do! | 
| 16:12 | jcamins | eythian: the problem patron that took out fifty books and didn't return them for a year? | 
| 16:12 | s/he just found them all when you sent him/her to collections. | |
| 16:12 | eythian | stop bringing loginc into this! | 
| 16:12 | or logic | |
| 16:12 | jcamins | eythian: so where are you? | 
| 16:12 | eythian | jcamins: Brighton | 
| 16:12 | wahanui | i guess Brighton is where the catalyst UK offices are | 
| 16:12 | * oleonard | wishes Bug 8229 would get pushed so he could properly check his framework | 
| 16:12 | eythian | what wahanui said | 
| 16:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8229 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Tabs in marc subfield structure is not shown correctly | 
| 16:14 | jcamins | eythian: ah. I'm sure they have decent beer in Brighton. | 
| 16:14 | oleonard | wizzyrea: My subfield 1 was hidden for some reason. | 
| 16:14 | eythian | jcamins: the Darkstar brewery is in these parts somewhere | 
| 16:14 | and The Evening Star, where it's served, is nearby. | |
| 16:15 | wizzyrea | well it's the same in mine | 
| 16:16 | eythian | there is a sad lack of untappd activity in the region however | 
| 16:16 | oleonard | So anyway, on the batch mod screen is it more technically correct to say "check to delete subfield 3" or "check to delete the value of subfield 3?" | 
| 16:17 | * jcamins | is not a beer drinker, but understands that Fridays mean beer o'clock at Catalyst. | 
| 16:17 | jcamins | The first. | 
| 16:17 | wahanui | somebody said the first was the command i ran | 
| 16:17 | wizzyrea | delete the value | 
| 16:17 | eythian | jcamins: it is in Wellington, apparently not so much in the UK however, alas | 
| 16:17 | wizzyrea | hmm, I'm disagreeing with jcamins - you're not actually deleting the subfield right? | 
| 16:18 | jcamins | eythian: introduce them to the concept! Isn't Catalyst an NZ company? | 
| 16:18 | wizzyrea: yes you are. | |
| 16:18 | eythian | jcamins: it is. About half the staff here are from NZ | 
| 16:18 | jcamins | eythian: ergo, you are eighteen minutes late to beer o'clock! | 
| 16:18 | wizzyrea: you can't have a subfield with no value. | |
| 16:18 | eythian | 1 hour 18 minutes | 
| 16:19 | jcamins | !!! Even worse! | 
| 16:19 | eythian | I know! | 
| 16:28 | dpavlin | jcamins: I didn't drink beer before Scotland either, but ale got me over to the dark side :-) | 
| 16:28 | eythian | dpavlin: if all you've had previously is crappy lagers, you've been missing out. | 
| 16:28 | * oleonard | has been in the mood for a good ale lately | 
| 16:29 | dpavlin | I know :-) | 
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| 16:29 | jcamins | dpavlin: I've been to Scotland. The reason I don't drink beer is the bubbles. | 
| 16:30 | eythian | jcamins: cask ales aren't very carbonated at all | 
| 16:30 | jcamins | A friend of mine brews the occasional beer without any secondary fermentation so that I can drink it. | 
| 16:30 | (why yes, most of my friends *do* brew their own beer) | |
| 16:31 | oleonard | Showoff :P | 
| 16:31 | eythian | that's nothing, a number of my friends brew commercially :) | 
| 16:31 | sekjal | homebrewing is definitely "in" these days | 
| 16:31 | eythian | We've passed it by already | 
| 16:32 | * wizzyrea | recalls that eythian is a beer geek beyond any other I know | 
| 16:32 | eythian | the US is so far behind ;) | 
| 16:32 | jcamins | eythian: would that be why they're your friends? ;) | 
| 16:32 | dpavlin | jcamins: bubbles help with alchocol transfer to bood, which is the point of beer, I guess... | 
| 16:32 | s/bood/blood/ | |
| 16:32 | jcamins | dpavlin: I can't drink soda, either. | 
| 16:32 | eythian | jcamins: heh, it's about 50/50 ;) | 
| 16:34 | wizzyrea | yea, the cool kids have moved on to making their own kombucha | 
| 16:34 | or something. | |
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| 16:39 | * cait | waves | 
| 16:40 | jcamins | cait: how did you get those warnings? | 
| 16:42 | cait | search | 
| 16:42 | all I did was a search in opac authorities browser | |
| 16:42 | I think maybe my "abs" | |
| 16:43 | jcamins | Huh. | 
| 16:43 | * eythian | is outta here, bye! | 
| 16:44 | jcamins | Ohh. | 
| 16:44 | dpavlin | I'm missing ui-bg_flat_75_ffffff_40x100.png and friend in master what did I do wrong? | 
| 16:44 | oleonard | dpavlin: What page? | 
| 16:44 | wahanui | it has been said that page is too big? | 
| 16:44 | dpavlin | every intranet page | 
| 16:45 | I don't have files on filesystem. | |
| 16:45 | jcamins | Bug 8205 | 
| 16:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8205 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Should be possible to hide unused authorities in OPAC | 
| 16:45 | jcamins | bug 8206 | 
| 16:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC | 
| 16:45 | jcamins | There's the one I wanted. | 
| 16:45 | cait | eythian: nice evening :) | 
| 16:46 | oleonard | dpavlin: Clear your browser cache? | 
| 16:46 | jcamins | cait: it turns out that your authority search for "ab" was only working because we're producing invalid authorities queries on the OPAC. | 
| 16:46 | dpavlin | oleonard: nop. I don't have them in git checkout. Where are they surposed to come from? | 
| 16:46 | cait | jcamins: interesting | 
| 16:46 | jcamins: i always search for a, b or something else to produce big result lists | |
| 16:47 | I assumed auto truncation | |
| 16:47 | jcamins | cait: nope. Just a bug. | 
| 16:47 | * cait | waves at dpavlin :) | 
| 16:47 | cait | jcamins: hmmm | 
| 16:47 | jcamins: but i like being able to do truncate searches? | |
| 16:48 | oleonard | dpavlin: It's not that you're missing those files, it's that some CSS is calling images which it shouldn't | 
| 16:48 | dpavlin: That's why I suggested clearing your cache. Your staff client CSS shouldn't call those images if it is up to date | |
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| 16:48 | jcamins | cait: that's why I added the options. | 
| 16:48 | cait: because I would like to be able to automatically truncate. | |
| 16:48 | cait | hm | 
| 16:49 | I thouht that was what contains and the others were for? | |
| 16:49 | I am confused now, but you are probably right | |
| 16:49 | jcamins | cait: the default authorities index was phrase only. | 
| 16:50 | dpavlin | oleonard: make sense. But I have references to them in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/jquery/jquery-ui.css | 
| 16:51 | oleonard | dpavlin: Yes, but those calls should be overridden by staff-global.css. My datepicker follow-up consolidates all that a bit. | 
| 16:53 | dpavlin | oleonard++ we have our own staff-global.css which is culprint. | 
| 16:54 | cait | supermarket | 
| 16:54 | bbiab | |
| 17:00 | * oleonard | is off | 
| 17:00 | oleonard | Have a nice weekend | 
| 17:03 | sekjal | QAQ at 27 | 
| 17:06 | jcamins | Bug 8206 is ready for cait's sign off. | 
| 17:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC | 
| 17:11 | cait | :) | 
| 17:11 | back | |
| 17:12 | sekjal++ | |
| 17:13 | jcamins | cait: and when you are done with bug 8206, bug 8202 would welcome your attention. | 
| 17:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC | 
| 17:13 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8202 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add authorities to export tool | |
| 17:13 | jcamins | wizzyrea: that one may be relevant to your interest, as well. | 
| 17:14 | cait | I think wizzyrea is probably busy in circulation righ tnow :( | 
| 17:14 | wizzyrea: are there patches for the big problems yet? | |
| 17:15 | jcamins | cait: yes, but I thought she might need a break before her head exploded. | 
| 17:17 | cait | testing something nice? ;) | 
| 17:17 | I will prepare my dinner, then I am back to teesting | |
| 17:17 | jcamins | cait: yep. Many nice things. Also, bug 8203. | 
| 17:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8203 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Should be possible to save individual authorities | 
| 17:17 | cait | ok, give me the sequence again :) | 
| 17:18 | jcamins | cait: bug 8206, followed by 8202, followed by 8203. | 
| 17:18 | All should be pretty easy to test. | |
| 17:20 | cait | k | 
| 17:20 | but first cutting onions | |
| 17:20 | jcamins | sekjal: you're getting there! | 
| 17:22 | And a bunch of these (based on the subjects) look like they should be pretty small, and therefore easy to QA. :) | |
| 17:23 | sekjal | under 20 | 
| 17:23 | * cait | starts crying | 
| 17:24 | jcamins | cait: if you run water over the onions first, it will help a bit. | 
| 17:24 | cait | too late | 
| 17:33 | sekjal | QAQ = 15 | 
| 17:36 | * cait | cheers sekjal on | 
| 17:41 | sekjal | QAQ = 13, and everything left is classed as "ENH" | 
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| 17:45 | Oak | @wunder islamabad | 
| 17:45 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 35.0°C (10:00 PM PKT on June 15, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). | 
| 17:45 | Oak | kia ora #koha | 
| 17:45 | jcamins | Bah, humbug. | 
| 17:45 | * jcamins | finds two bugs. | 
| 17:49 | sekjal | going to grab a cookie from downstairs, then will start QAing bug 8130 | 
| 17:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8130 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , attach PDF files to a patron record | 
| 17:54 | cait | :) | 
| 17:58 | sekjal | well that was anti-climactic... doesn't apply | 
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| 17:59 | sekjal | sorry, kylemhall... probably a simple rebase, but I know how annoying those can be to have to do repeatedly | 
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| 18:04 | jcamins | How many places do you think we use get_saved_report? | 
| 18:06 | cait | too many? | 
| 18:06 | jcamins | Surprisingly few places, actually. | 
| 18:06 | * jcamins | carries on. | 
| 18:07 | cait | oh | 
| 18:07 | what are you working on? | |
| 18:08 | jcamins | Bug 8255. | 
| 18:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8255 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Local cover images should be cacheable | 
| 18:08 | jcamins | No. | 
| 18:08 | Bug 8256 | |
| 18:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Reports webservice should allow selection by name | 
| 18:08 | cait | selection by name? | 
| 18:08 | ah report name? | |
| 18:09 | jcamins | Yup. | 
| 18:12 | Cool. | |
| 18:12 | My change worked. | |
| 18:14 | * wizzyrea | returns from lunch | 
| 18:14 | sekjal | QAQ = 9 | 
| 18:14 | wizzyrea | sekjal++ | 
| 18:15 | sekjal | paul_p will have plenty of work for Monday :) | 
| 18:15 | wizzyrea | sekjal - opinion - on bug 6976 which fix do you think is better? | 
| 18:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6976 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , User hold limit can be avoided by users in OPAC | 
| 18:15 | wizzyrea | or do you have an opinion on that because… that really needs to be fixed. | 
| 18:16 | sekjal | wizzyrea: reading patches, will try to formulate an informed opinion | 
| 18:16 | jcamins | wizzyrea: the second patch is a rewrite of the first. | 
| 18:16 | At least, that's what it looked like to me. | |
| 18:16 | wizzyrea | i know but ... | 
| 18:17 | i'm a waffler. | |
| 18:17 | * jcamins | isn't. I was fine with the first patch. | 
| 18:18 | sekjal | so the root of the problem is that doing multiple holds at once from the results list bypasses the limit? | 
| 18:18 | wizzyrea | from anywhere, I think | 
| 18:18 | hold limits are currently totally broken | |
| 18:19 | jcamins | sekjal: right. And without any sort of global holds limit, there's no way around that. | 
| 18:19 | sekjal | easy: stop doing holds | 
| 18:19 | * wizzyrea | gives sekjal "the look" | 
| 18:19 | wizzyrea | you know the one. | 
| 18:19 | ;) | |
| 18:22 | sekjal | I like the second patches' warning message in the OPAC | 
| 18:24 | all in all, it seems simpler and more direct. but it may not do the iterative calculation that the first does | |
| 18:24 | in fact, given the warning message, I'm sure it doesn't | |
| 18:25 | so, the difference (I think) is whether we let some of the multiple holds go through, or if we say "Hey, too many, go change your selection to less than X" | |
| 18:25 | is that what everyone else is seeing? | |
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| 18:34 | cait | bug 8206 | 
| 18:34 | wahanui | bug 8206 is ready for your sign off. | 
| 18:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC | 
| 18:35 | jcamins | Indeed it is. :) | 
| 18:35 | cait | it also applies ;) | 
| 18:36 | jcamins | I would think so. | 
| 18:36 | I rebased it just a few minutes ago. | |
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| 18:37 | cait | jcamins: hmm | 
| 18:37 | I am looking at the html form | |
| 18:38 | and wonder why we have 2 fields with the same name? not sure if that's intended? | |
| 18:38 | jcamins | cait: we have two fields with the same name still? | 
| 18:38 | That was the problem you pointed out to me earlier. | |
| 18:38 | cait | it seems to me | 
| 18:38 | hm? | |
| 18:38 | jcamins | I thought I fixed it. | 
| 18:38 | cait | let me show you my paste | 
| 18:38 | jcamins | With the warnings. | 
| 18:38 | cait | perhaps it's just me getting it wrong | 
| 18:38 | http://paste.koha-community.org/453 | |
| 18:38 | marclist seems doubled up to me | |
| 18:39 | jcamins | I could have uploaded the wrong patch. | 
| 18:39 | Hm. | |
| 18:39 | cait | the see from option is gone | 
| 18:39 | jcamins | It does indeed. | 
| 18:39 | Yeah, I'll do that in a follow-up. | |
| 18:39 | cait | k | 
| 18:39 | * jcamins | will fix the marclist issue. | 
| 18:39 | cait | moving on to the other | 
| 18:39 | jcamins | After I finish this commit. | 
| 18:39 | cait | bug 8202 | 
| 18:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8202 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add authorities to export tool | 
| 18:43 | cait | oleonard++ for shiny new tabs | 
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | hm, not sure how I feel about this: http://screencast.com/t/RmcLaMre9l | 
| 18:44 | cait | hm | 
| 18:44 | maybe with some css tweaking to the right side? | |
| 18:44 | wizzyrea | such as? | 
| 18:44 | dpavlin | cait: I can hear Marijana's voice in my head: "I will have to send e-mail to librarians about this change" | 
| 18:44 | jcamins | cait: attached a new patch. | 
| 18:44 | cait | more room between lines | 
| 18:44 | dpavlin: heh | |
| 18:45 | wizzyrea | yes, we could all do well to hear that voice in our heads now and again | 
| 18:45 | cait | wizzyrea: lots of free space on one side, almost no space on the other | 
| 18:45 | wizzyrea | well I have my window up pretty big. | 
| 18:45 | SJeffery | It kinda looks like someone reworked the left side and then stopped. | 
| 18:45 | wizzyrea | heh. | 
| 18:52 | the big buttons look dumb on both sides though. | |
| 18:53 | rangi | morning | 
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | imo. | 
| 18:53 | heya! | |
| 18:53 | * wizzyrea | is impressed you're awake | 
| 18:53 | rangi | 12 hours sleep :) | 
| 18:54 | wizzyrea | good stuff! | 
| 18:54 | cait | sounds like you needed it | 
| 18:54 | good morning rangi :) | |
| 18:55 | sekjal | well, my scholarly retreat time is just about over. QAQ under 10, as I'd hoped. I think I can be satisfied with today's work | 
| 18:55 | rangi | yay sekjal | 
| 18:56 | mle | rangi : ) | 
| 18:56 | jcamins | Yay! | 
| 18:56 | sekjal++ | |
| 18:56 | Good morning, rangi. | |
| 18:56 | sekjal | I'm going to head back to my office, and get some UMass-related work done before I leave | 
| 18:56 | have a great [timeofday], #koha! | |
| 18:58 | cait | hmm | 
| 18:58 | * wajasu | testing building debian packages in my koha dev VM ( using robin's build-git-snapshot) | 
| 18:58 | cait | should I be able to use marcdump less on the exported files? | 
| 18:58 | or does it not work because it's authorities? | |
| 18:58 | Couldn't open less: Died at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File.pm line 71. | |
| 18:59 | rangi | marcdump file | less | 
| 18:59 | right? | |
| 19:00 | cait | hmm | 
| 19:00 | I should looked in my wiki | |
| 19:00 | rangi | hey mle :) | 
| 19:01 | mle | ahoy from sunny embrah | 
| 19:01 | its "warm" here, "warm" and "dry" | |
| 19:01 | rangi | heh, the morning i flew out, was the best weather we'd had :) | 
| 19:01 | mle | indeed | 
| 19:01 | cait | yeah | 
| 19:01 | rangi | but i had a window seat so i got a great view | 
| 19:01 | cait | I was all sweaty carrying around all my stuff when I reached waverly :( | 
| 19:02 | but the view was nice | |
| 19:03 | * drojf | drinks innis & gunn rum finish | 
| 19:03 | rangi | i luckily could catch the n22 night bus, which left just around the corner from our hotel | 
| 19:03 | drojf | i have my edinburgh with me, bottled | 
| 19:04 | rangi | the bus system in edinburgh is really quite fantastic | 
| 19:04 | oooh an awake 3 year old | |
| 19:05 | * rangi | will bbiab | 
| 19:06 | * mle | looks at that pile of video editing | 
| 19:06 | goes out for another bottle of wine | |
| 19:07 | cait | lol | 
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| 19:18 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #55 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) | 
| 19:21 | cait | rangi++ ... of course I had the syntax wrong, my marc files read quite nicely now | 
| 19:23 | jcamins++ | |
| 19:23 | amazing auth export :) | |
| 19:23 | works perfectly | |
| 19:29 | jcamins | :) | 
| 19:30 | cait | ... and makes it even easier to get your data out of Koha | 
| 19:31 | I think all the rest can be easily done with reports | |
| 19:33 | drojf | when i use 'koha-create --create-db name' | 
| 19:33 | i get 'ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation CREATE USER failed for 'name'@'%''on :8080 i then see Unknown database 'koha2' at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 758. and severl more lines of errors. when i then use 'koha-remove name' i get 'ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_koha2'@'%'' | |
| 19:33 | either i am missing something or there is a problem with the package?! | |
| 19:34 | cait | looks like mysql | 
| 19:34 | are you installing on ubuntu? | |
| 19:34 | drojf | debian | 
| 19:34 | it should not try to delete a different user than it tried to create?! | |
| 19:35 | cait | sorry, still haven't played with the packages | 
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| 19:46 | rangi | definitely not drojf, you should try to catch eythian next time he is around, he is still in your timezone :) | 
| 19:46 | http://drupal.biblibre.com/fr/[…]est-termin%C3%A9e | |
| 19:46 | http://www.ptfs-europe.com/kohacon12-2/ | |
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| 19:54 | rangi | hi brylie_ | 
| 19:54 | * cait | waves | 
| 20:00 | cait | jcamins: aorund? | 
| 20:08 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #55: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/55/ | 
| 20:08 | * dpavlin: Bug 7952 - PDF::Reuse under plack writes to console STDOUT instead to browser | |
| 20:08 | * dpavlin: Bug 7952 - followup to fix t/Creators.t | |
| 20:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7952 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , PDF::Reuse under plack writes to console STDOUT instead to browser | 
| 20:12 | rangi | @wunder nzwn | 
| 20:12 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on June 16, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). | 
| 20:19 | cait | hm | 
| 20:19 | not really outdoor weather | |
| 20:20 | rangi | nope, its yuck | 
| 20:21 | cait | indoor activities then? | 
| 20:21 | rangi | yeah, staying inside with the heater on I think | 
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| 20:23 | wizzyrea | @wunder 66049 | 
| 20:23 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 29.2°C (3:23 PM CDT on June 15, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Steady). | 
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | a bit warm, but gorgeous | 
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| 20:54 | wajasu | using build-git support, but get tar: koha-build/labels: Cannot mkdir: No space left on device | 
| 20:54 | jcamins | wajasu: you're out of diskspace. | 
| 20:54 | wajasu | :o | 
| 20:56 | drojf | jcamins: do you still have that 3.6 repo? | 
| 20:56 | if so, where is it? | |
| 21:02 | magnuse | @wunder boo | 
| 21:02 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (10:50 PM CEST on June 15, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). | 
| 21:02 | jcamins | drojf: I do. | 
| 21:02 | magnuse | yay! | 
| 21:02 | jcamins | apt.cpbibliography.com/koha 3.6.x main | 
| 21:03 | * magnuse | wanders off again | 
| 21:03 | drojf | thanks | 
| 21:03 | jcamins | You're welcome. | 
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| 21:25 | wajasu | i changed BUILDPLACE /var/cache/pbuilder/build to get it to write to mounted filesystem for space. | 
| 21:27 | rangi | wow its pouring | 
| 21:34 | cait | night all :) | 
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| 21:34 | wajasu | now with build-git-snapshot i get Cannot change ownership to uid 0, gid 0: Permission denied | 
| 21:34 | so close | |
| 21:36 | jcamins | wajasu: it should be shelling out to sudo. | 
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| 21:37 | jcamins | Alternatively, you are mounting in userspace? | 
| 21:37 | wajasu | even though i run it as my "koha" user. i am using sshfs, and -o allow_other | 
| 21:38 | jcamins | Yes, that would be the problem. | 
| 21:38 | pbuilder uses chroot. | |
| 21:38 | wajasu | so that script must run as root. | 
| 21:38 | jcamins | So you have to either have sshfs remap uid 0 to your koha user (no idea how to do that) or mount via root. | 
| 21:39 | No, the script runs as your Koha user. | |
| 21:39 | pbuilder must run as root. | |
| 21:39 | build-git-snapshot uses sudo to do that. | |
| 21:42 | wajasu | i build the tar.gz, and there is a point where it untars, but now its trying to untar /var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz as koha, and since the chroot failed using fakeroot(i think), its trying to do it in my VM. | 
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| 21:46 | jcamins | wajasu: you have to do something complicated to get pbuilder to go somewhere other than /var/cache/pbuilder. | 
| 21:46 | Plus, pbuilder requires proc. | |
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| 21:49 | gml | cait: found error from yesterday | 
| 21:49 | cait: it was http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8135 | |
| 21:49 | huginn | 04Bug 8135: critical, P1 - high, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , Services Directory and itemrecorddisplay.pl File Missing After Install | 
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| 22:01 | jcamins | @later tell cait Updated patch on bug 8256. | 
| 22:01 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. | 
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| 23:01 | rangi | weird being back in the timezone where everyone is asleep again | 
| 23:03 | jcamins_away | Heh. | 
| 23:08 | drojf | :) | 
| 23:08 | for the record: koha runs on a raspberry pi. slooowly | |
| 23:08 | jcamins_away | drojf++ | 
| 23:09 | wajasu | give some stats/benchmark so when folks run it on arm, they can compare. | 
| 23:09 | cjh | drojf: awesome. | 
| 23:09 | wajasu | or is rasberry an arm-based cpu | 
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| 23:10 | cjh | resberry is an arm based mini computer, kind of :) | 
| 23:10 | drojf | raspberry pi is arm-based | 
| 23:10 | wajasu | coolbeans | 
| 23:10 | cjh | drojf: do you have any notes on the set up you used? (ie web server, distro, etc.) | 
| 23:10 | rangi: wb :) | |
| 23:12 | drojf | cjh: i tried to document the setup but ran in problems with the deb packages for 3.8 (not pi-related i think). i re-did it with jcamins_away's 3.6 repo. i try to write it down over the weekend. basically i just tweaked apt to use the repo (that has no official arm packages) and used packages. | 
| 23:13 | eythian | drojf: what issues with 3.8 did you have? | 
| 23:13 | I don't think they should be hugely different | |
| 23:13 | drojf | when did you sneak in? | 
| 23:13 | ;) | |
| 23:14 | mom | |
| 23:14 | eythian | oh, a little while ago :) | 
| 23:16 | jcamins_away | eythian: there are a few extra dependencies for 3.8 that will be problems with ARM. | 
| 23:17 | eythian | there are, I'm curious about what they are | 
| 23:17 | I don't have any non-pure-perl ones built. | |
| 23:17 | jcamins_away | DateTime. | 
| 23:18 | eythian | that's in regular debian, I think | 
| 23:18 | drojf | jcamins_away: i had to get one dependency from the 3.8 repo before i could install 3.6 | 
| 23:19 | jcamins_away | eythian: but do they have it in the raspberry pi repo yet? | 
| 23:19 | It's XS for me. | |
| 23:19 | drojf | for 3.8 all seemed to be there, it was more some problem with koha-create | 
| 23:24 | wajasu | i guess to build-git-snapshot, one needs CHI CHI::Driver::Memcached and Template::Plugin::HtmlToText | 
| 23:25 | eythian | wajasu: yep | 
| 23:25 | I'm working on packaging those | |
| 23:26 | wajasu | what do you guys change. the debian/... control files? or should i wait. or should I just git clone, and in my branch use v3.08.01 for now. | 
| 23:26 | eythian | wajasu: well, the CHI etc. packages don't exist in Debian squeeze yet | 
| 23:27 | s/yet// | |
| 23:27 | so I'm going to create some and put them in the koha repo | |
| 23:27 | wajasu | so i'll set my branch back to v3.08.01 | 
| 23:28 | eythian | probably best for now :) | 
| 23:29 | wajasu | for my understanding, will you then add those to the debian/control file as a dependency on master? | 
| 23:29 | eythian | yeah | 
| 23:29 | debian/update-control will do that where it can | |
| 23:29 | (automagically) | |
| 23:30 | and I have a patch in bugzilla to make it understand the ones that don't exist in debian | |
| 23:30 | wajasu | haven't use that yet. | 
| 23:30 | eythian | it just regenerates the list of dependencies | 
| 23:30 | and writes them into debian/control | |
| 23:32 | wajasu | i did pbuilder create --othermirror 'deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main' --mirror http://ftp.utexas.edu/debian | 
| 23:32 | should i be putting squeeze and main after the mirror? | |
| 23:33 | eythian | I don't | 
| 23:33 | wajasu | and what does squeeze-dev give me over squeeze? | 
| 23:33 | eythian | I tend to build against unstable actually, it gives me forewarning of packages going away. | 
| 23:33 | squeeze-dev tracks master | |
| 23:33 | squeeze tracks current stable | |
| 23:34 | wajasu | ok. so for patches against the latest release, I'm ok. | 
| 23:34 | eythian | yeah | 
| 23:35 | I think (aside from changelog changes) the squeeze packages are exactly 3.8 | |
| 23:35 | by the end of the cycle they tend to diverge slightly with package-specific changes, but they always go into upstream master | |
| 23:36 | wajasu | so when do you think you will have those new deps available? i can work on something else until those are ready. | 
| 23:37 | eythian | Not sure, hopefully early in the week | 
| 23:37 | drojf | jcamins_away: i think the dependency i had to get from the 3.8 repo to install 3.6 was libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl | 
| 23:37 | eythian | drojf: that should also be in the 3.6 repo, fwiw | 
| 23:37 | (though the 3.6 repo isn't really quite official yet) | |
| 23:37 | wajasu | thx | 
| 23:38 | drojf | wasn't there for me ;) | 
| 23:39 | eythian | hmm curious | 
| 23:39 | will double check that some time | |
| 23:39 | drojf: you were using "oldstable"? | |
| 23:41 | drojf | i used deb http://apt.cpbibliography.com/koha dists/3.6.x/main/binary-i386/ | 
| 23:41 | it may or may not be relevant that i changed the path so i get no complains about missing arm packages | |
| 23:42 | or what di you mean by oldstable? | |
| 23:42 | do | |
| 23:43 | eythian | oh, I'm adding 3.6 to the k-c repo, so there'll be an "oldstable" distrib on it. | 
| 23:43 | it's there now, just have one or two things still to add to it | |
| 23:43 | drojf | ah, ok | 
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