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| 02:53 | jan2018500 | hello |
| 02:53 | people | |
| 02:53 | can i ask something about koha barcoding | |
| 02:53 | how can i set up our own barcode in koha? | |
| 02:54 | mtj | there are barcode plugins for koha |
| 02:54 | jan2018500 | in administration ryt there is preferences about catalonging then the say that autobarcode then u can choose not generally automatic and etc... |
| 02:55 | so our library make new barcode then how can i set up dat coz there's a automatic barcode wen i enter my books | |
| 02:55 | barcode plugins where is that? | |
| 02:56 | mtj | disable the auto-barcode syspref? |
| 02:56 | jan2018500 | then after that? |
| 02:56 | mtj | what do you want to do? |
| 02:57 | create a new autobarcode format for Koha? | |
| 02:57 | jan2018500 | how? |
| 02:57 | mtj | what do you want to do? |
| 02:58 | create a new autobarcode format for Koha? | |
| 02:58 | yes, or no? | |
| 03:01 | if you do want to create a new autobarcode format for Koha, here's an example... | |
| 03:02 | http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=he[…]69983931728eac8f5 | |
| 03:03 | jan2018500 | thanks sir:) |
| 03:03 | mtj | ...its for a 'branch-code' + '1234' type barcode |
| 03:03 | it's working well (i put it live has night) :) | |
| 03:04 | but, its still waaaay to much code, i think... | |
| 03:05 | jan2018500 | if u change the autobarcode from not generally automatic its look like this ryt.....ex. 5541 but if u click the generally barcode its look like this...AJA00001 |
| 03:06 | but u know sir other software like follet they are set up barcode they want. ex. JLDM000521 | |
| 03:06 | mtj | well, that depends on what records you have in your system, of course - and your sysprefs too :) |
| 03:06 | jan2018500 | i see |
| 03:07 | mtj | hope that example helps you... |
| 03:07 | jan2018500 | so koha they automatically gives up barcode like my library name depends on my library name set up? |
| 03:07 | mtj | yep |
| 03:09 | my barcode plugin is a 'BRANCH0001' format, etc... | |
| 03:10 | jan2018500 | what about opac dislpaying sir? |
| 03:10 | how can we separte | |
| 03:14 | from other document | |
| 03:14 | i mean make other site | |
| 03:19 | mtj | i dont know that, sorry... |
| 03:25 | jan2018500 | ok |
| 03:25 | thanks | |
| 03:28 | mtj | jan2018500: send an email to the koha mailing-list, if you need more help :) |
| 03:28 | http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ | |
| 03:34 | jan2018500 | thank you sir |
| 03:37 | mtj | jan2018500: what type of barcode format you you have? |
| 03:42 | jan2018500 | only number sir but if i change from generated branch is like this...AJA0001 AJA IS AIIAS JUNIOR ACADEMY LIKE THAT |
| 04:06 | mtj | sounds like he just needed to change his autoBarcode syspref too 'form 1,2,3,4'... :/ |
| 04:06 | oh , well... | |
| 04:35 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 04:35 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 04:35 | mobile cait hi! | |
| 04:38 | bag | evening |
| 04:45 | Oak | evening bag |
| 04:45 | bag | heya Oak |
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| 05:31 | druthb | o/ |
| 05:32 | bag | hi ruth |
| 05:32 | whoops druthb | |
| 05:32 | druthb | hi, bag. |
| 05:33 | Best Boss EVAR. | |
| 05:33 | bag | awww thanks |
| 05:33 | druthb | Sends me to cool geek-type conferences n stuffs. |
| 05:33 | bag | :D |
| 05:42 | Oak | bag++ |
| 05:42 | druthb | bag++ |
| 05:42 | Oak | :) |
| 05:42 | bag | heh thanks :) |
| 05:43 | * druthb | waves to Oak. |
| 05:43 | * Oak | waves back happily |
| 05:43 | Oak | what's new druthb ? |
| 05:44 | druthb | I'm enjoying http://yapcna.org/conference a whole awful lot. Amazing geeky people here. |
| 05:45 | Oak | whoa |
| 05:45 | lucky you!!! | |
| 05:45 | this looks cool | |
| 05:47 | druthb | It is a great conference. lots of fun collaborative people. |
| 05:49 | There is a similar conference in Europe...uhm...bag...can i go? :P | |
| 05:49 | bag | not this year ;) |
| 05:49 | druthb | ;) |
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| 06:21 | alex_a | hello ! |
| 06:24 | drojf | hi alex_a |
| 06:24 | cait-m__ | helllo |
| 06:24 | drojf | good monrning #koha |
| 06:25 | hi cait-m__ | |
| 06:25 | cait-m__ | :-) |
| 06:25 | alex_a | hello drojf cait-m__ |
| 06:25 | drojf | so much for sleeping in today, got a raspberry pi delivered pretty early |
| 06:25 | alex_a | cait-m__ ? |
| 06:25 | wahanui | cait-m__ is ready to give in |
| 06:28 | drojf | cait-m__: when is your plane going? |
| 06:29 | cait-m__ | around 1 pm |
| 06:29 | time to pack | |
| 06:31 | drojf | where do you change? frankfurt? |
| 06:31 | cait joined #koha | |
| 06:32 | * cait | waves |
| 06:33 | drojf | hi another cait :) |
| 06:34 | cait | heya |
| 06:34 | bag | heya cait |
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| 06:38 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:44 | cait | hi reiveune |
| 06:44 | reiveune | hi cait :) |
| 06:45 | cjh | from the intranet how can I see the non-public notes on items? The only way I can seem to view them is from the edit->edit items page |
| 06:45 | cait | cjh: in cataloguing or in hte marc view |
| 06:45 | cjh: the problem is that it's not a field in items for non-public notes righ tnow | |
| 06:46 | there is a patch in bugzilla to fix that | |
| 06:46 | cjh | yeah I noticed it isnt tied to the db, a patch sounds awesome. |
| 06:46 | cait | check for non-public note |
| 06:46 | I am a bit guilty about it being not in yet | |
| 06:46 | cjh | why guilty? |
| 06:46 | cait | drojf: sunny weather in edinburgh today... |
| 06:47 | cjh | cait: thanks for the pointer to the patch :) |
| 06:47 | cait | cjh: because I was not happy with the database update |
| 06:47 | alex_a | cait: sunny ?? |
| 06:47 | cait | cjh: no problem :) |
| 06:47 | alex_a: I swear | |
| 06:47 | alex_a: that hot bright thing on the sky we call sun | |
| 06:47 | of course... I have to leave today | |
| 06:48 | alex_a | now we are gone, sun is coming in edinburgh |
| 06:48 | cait: lol | |
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| 06:52 | drojf | hm then now is the dax to climb arthur's seat. buti'm gone. unfair |
| 06:53 | day | |
| 06:56 | julian_m | hi |
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| 07:04 | cait | drojf: don't think i am climbing that for you! |
| 07:04 | matts | hi #koha ! |
| 07:05 | drojf | cait: oooooh please do :D |
| 07:05 | cait | drojf: nope! |
| 07:05 | drojf | bonjour matts |
| 07:05 | cait | hi matts :) |
| 07:05 | with you all gone, it's maybe time to return home | |
| 07:05 | why did you all go??? | |
| 07:05 | matts | aren't you home already ? |
| 07:06 | cait | no, flying today at 1:35 pm |
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| 07:07 | matts | okay |
| 07:07 | alex_a | matts: and it's sunny in Edinburgh today ! |
| 07:08 | matts | ^^ |
| 07:10 | cait | it is |
| 07:10 | blue sky | |
| 07:16 | matts, alex_a: back at work? | |
| 07:17 | matts | yep ! |
| 07:17 | Back to my cats ! | |
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| 07:19 | alex_a | cait: yes |
| 07:19 | cait | morning asaurat |
| 07:21 | asaurat | good morning! |
| 07:21 | drojf | hi asaurat |
| 07:21 | mtj | here's VIM regex Q.... how to change the default '/' separator character, to something else...? |
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| 07:22 | mtj | (i've done it recently - but i didnt write the command down anywhere) |
| 07:24 | ooh, found it : ) -> http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Search_and_replace | |
| 07:24 | :s#http://www.example.com/index.html#http://example.com/# | |
| 07:26 | too easy :) '^' chars seem to works too... | |
| 07:26 | :s^http://www.example.com/index.html^http://example.com/^ | |
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| 07:38 | samuel | hi everybody |
| 07:39 | cait | hi samuel |
| 07:49 | hah! I found my airlink bus return ticket :) | |
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| 08:43 | bag | well evening again |
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| 08:43 | cait-m__ | waves |
| 08:44 | bag | heya cait-m__ |
| 08:44 | wahanui | i think cait-m__ is ready to give in |
| 08:44 | bag | you on the way home? |
| 08:46 | cait-m__ | yep |
| 08:46 | on bus to airport now | |
| 08:47 | lamiette | safe travels! |
| 08:47 | Oak | have a safe journey |
| 08:47 | cait-m__ | thx :-) |
| 08:47 | Oak | don't flatter yourself, we need cookies that's all. |
| 08:47 | cait-m__ | still sad to leave |
| 08:48 | Oak | aw |
| 08:48 | cait-m__ | lol |
| 08:48 | thx Oak | |
| 08:48 | mtj | good luck cait :) |
| 08:49 | ooh, wifi on teh bus? | |
| 08:49 | Oak | *hugs* we must travel. stay for a while somewhere, then return home, then prepare for the next journey. don't be sad. |
| 08:49 | cait-m__ | yes |
| 08:50 | Oak | may be next time i'll be able to annoy you in person. |
| 08:50 | hopefully. | |
| 08:50 | cait-m__ | :-) |
| 08:50 | Oak | okay safe travel. talk too much. quiet now. |
| 08:50 | cait-m__ | that would be nice |
| 08:50 | Oak | :) |
| 08:52 | "okay safe travel. talk too much. quiet now." == "okay safe travel. I talk too much. I'll be quiet now." | |
| 08:54 | cait-m__ | iit's ok, the bus ride is not that interesting |
| 08:54 | Oak | why not. look out through the window and you will see trees are moving with your bus. |
| 08:54 | cait-m__ | it's really warm today in edinburgh |
| 08:54 | nicest weather so far | |
| 08:55 | asaurat | cait-m__: are you sure you're still in Edinburgh ?? |
| 08:55 | didn't your hotel move during the night ?? | |
| 09:06 | mtj | woo, free e2-ish web-hosting at dotcloud.com?! |
| 09:07 | i just signed-up, looks kinda awesome! | |
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| 09:23 | mveron | Hi everybody #koha |
| 09:24 | slef | hello #koha from #bibliohack |
| 09:27 | mveron | Hope everybody had a good journey from Edinburgh back home... |
| 09:27 | asaurat | hi marc |
| 09:28 | mveron | hi asaurat |
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| 09:30 | mveron | hi mbalmer |
| 09:30 | mbalmer | hi marc |
| 09:36 | back home? | |
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| 09:48 | mveron | mbalmer: ...and swimming in a blister... |
| 09:48 | mbalmer | same here... |
| 09:50 | mveron | And I have guests from a school in Pakistan in my office, helped them to install LibreOffice |
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| 10:00 | cait-m__ | waves from airport |
| 10:02 | mveron | mveron waves back |
| 10:03 | cait-m__ | :-) |
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| 10:27 | * mveron | Has to give driving lessons to his daugther |
| 10:38 | paul_p | hi cait-m__ from airport ! |
| 10:52 | cait-m__ | hi paul |
| 10:52 | my bag got searched first time ever | |
| 10:52 | must be very suspicious cookies slef gave me | |
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| 11:39 | clrh | hello all |
| 11:39 | what is the pseudo for Robin? | |
| 11:40 | (for my information) | |
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| 11:41 | nengard | it begins with an e .... |
| 11:41 | i know that's not helpful | |
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| 11:42 | clrh | nengard: better to have the begin that nothing ;) |
| 11:42 | mtj | eyt... :) |
| 11:42 | clrh | id_recto |
| 11:42 | oups | |
| 11:44 | davidnind | This may help http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
| 11:44 | jcamins_away | eythian. :) |
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| 11:51 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 11:55 | jcamins_away | joubu++ |
| 11:55 | clrh++ | |
| 11:57 | clrh | :) jcamins_away feedbacks (and sign off) welcomes |
| 11:59 | jcamins_away | clrh: I see one problem with it... it calls C4::Search::buildQuery. |
| 12:00 | Modules in the Koha namespace can't have any dependencies on C4. | |
| 12:00 | (other than C4::Context) | |
| 12:00 | clrh | but it is for zebra part isn't it? |
| 12:00 | jcamins_away | Yes. |
| 12:00 | clrh | work done on ezbra part should be write, feel free to propose things |
| 12:01 | personnaly, I am not able to do it - I know zeno, juan began something | |
| 12:01 | the patch show that it is possible and boxes must be filled | |
| 12:02 | jcamins_away | The solr part is also using C4::Biblio and C4::AuthoritiesMarc, I see. |
| 12:02 | Yep. Very exciting progress. :D | |
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| 12:02 | Joubu | hi |
| 12:02 | jcamins_away | Hello. |
| 12:02 | clrh | jcamins_away: I understand but if I must rewrite all Koha part to submit something... |
| 12:02 | jcamins_away | You just missed me giving you Karma. :) |
| 12:03 | clrh | jcamins_away: I called him because of the discussion :) |
| 12:03 | I pasted him above | |
| 12:04 | jcamins_away | :) |
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| 12:05 | jcamins | Joubu: even though it's not perfect, I think the best thing to do is probably clean all the dependencies out of buildQuery, so we can get the solr code into Koha *now*. |
| 12:05 | I had looked, and I don't think there are actually that many external dependencies in buildQuery. | |
| 12:06 | * jcamins | is checking now to confirm. |
| 12:06 | clrh | grep is your friend jcamins ? |
| 12:06 | jcamins | clrh: no, with buildQuery I'll actually have to read through the code. :( |
| 12:07 | If you hear screaming, that's me. ;) | |
| 12:07 | clrh | ;) |
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| 12:10 | jcamins | Yes, the only dependencies are local utility functions, and GetBranchName. |
| 12:13 | clrh | ok |
| 12:13 | Joubu | jcamins: unfortunately, there is not only the buildQuery function. The current opac-search.pl has a lot of dumpy dependencies (getRecords, searchResults) |
| 12:18 | jcamins | Joubu: eventually all that will need to move, but in terms of the code in Koha::SearchEngine, it looks like buildQuery is the only one that has to be moved immediately. |
| 12:20 | Joubu | jcamins: yes you are right, it is the only one (currently ! ;)) |
| 12:24 | jcamins | What does apply_all_roles do? |
| 12:26 | Joubu | it apply all roles :) |
| 12:27 | it adds a role to an object | |
| 12:27 | jcamins | Joubu: I gathered it applies all roles, but where exactly do you define it? |
| 12:28 | Joubu | jcamins: Where I define the role ? |
| 12:28 | jcamins | No, the apply_all_roles routine. |
| 12:29 | Joubu | it's a Moose routine |
| 12:29 | jcamins | Ohhh! |
| 12:29 | Joubu | jcamins: http://search.cpan.org/~doy/Mo[…]N_OBJECT_INSTANCE |
| 12:29 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 12:29 | That makes sense now. :) | |
| 12:29 | Oooh! | |
| 12:30 | * jcamins | likes t::lib::Mocks::Context |
| 12:30 | Joubu | :) |
| 12:30 | very usefull ! | |
| 12:31 | jcamins | And the plan is that opac/search.pl will eventually go away, when Zebra and solr share an API? |
| 12:34 | Joubu | opac/search.pl or opac/opac-search.pl :) |
| 12:35 | jcamins | Joubu: right. It'd be kind of nice to just have search.pl. |
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| 13:21 | vkm | how to send emails via koha |
| 13:22 | is there any systematic document on that i am using ubuntu | |
| 13:22 | oleonard | Koha sends emails in various situations by different means vkm. Are you asking about configuring Ubuntu to send email? |
| 13:23 | vkm | yes config on ubuntu |
| 13:23 | oleonard | vkm: If the question is "How do I set up Ubuntu to send email" then the answer is best found elsewhere since it's an Ubuntu configuration question. |
| 13:24 | vkm | please let me know what is needed to install on ubuntu and how configure it |
| 13:24 | oleonard | vkm: Is this the kind of thing you're looking for? https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/i[…]6/mail-setup.html Because it sounds like your question isn't about Koha per se |
| 13:24 | vkm | but koha users also need to configure it to send auto email for transactions |
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| 13:35 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 13:35 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me" (added by jdavidb at 03:50 PM, July 31, 2009) |
| 13:35 | gmcharlt | such a relief |
| 13:39 | oleonard | Hi gmcharlt how's it going? |
| 13:47 | gmcharlt | oleonard: not bad; how are you? |
| 13:47 | oleonard | Fine. Final testing on this jquery datepicker patch at the moment |
| 13:48 | SJeffery | Isn't there an IRC meeting coming up soon? |
| 13:50 | oleonard | 13 June 2012 at 18:00 UTC+0 according to the wiki |
| 13:50 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.8.1, 3.6.5 and 3.4.8 Now Available | Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org/ | http://paste.koha-community.org | General IRC Meeting 13 June 2012 at 18:00 UTC+0 | |
| 13:51 | oleonard | I'm glad you remembered SJeffery, I didn't. |
| 13:51 | SJeffery | Yeah, I thought it was coming up but there is usually a mailing list announcement |
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| 14:05 | SJeffery | Thanks oleonard :) |
| 14:06 | nengard | the koha meeting today is while i'm doing a webinar :( |
| 14:14 | marcelr | Joubu: around? |
| 14:19 | oleonard | Alright, Bug 8181 ready for testers with endurance. |
| 14:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8181 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace DynArch calendar widget with jQueryUI version |
| 14:19 | Barrc | Can anyone think why there might be a limit on the number of items a bib can have? I have narrowed it down to bibs with somewhere between 852 and 955 items.....zebra goes a but nuts... |
| 14:23 | Joubu | marcelr: yes |
| 14:26 | jcamins | Barrc: you have to use rebuild_zebra.pl -b -x -r |
| 14:26 | (then -b -x -z) | |
| 14:26 | marcelr | Joubu: I just pasted a large comment in 7167; don't be shocked |
| 14:27 | hdl | Barrc: yep. It goes nutts. |
| 14:27 | for what it is worth, there is some enhancement we build on rebuild_zebra. | |
| 14:28 | Barrc: see that -l limit in this http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koh[…]4e1f119c6dccd2bdc | |
| 14:29 | Joubu | marcelr: wow :) Thank you very much ! |
| 14:29 | marcelr | Joubu: sending mail to dev list also |
| 14:29 | jcamins | Barrc: the problem is that the binary MARC format has a limit to the length of the record. |
| 14:29 | marcelr | it will hopefullu be not so much work |
| 14:29 | jcamins | marcelr: not sure about the syspref. |
| 14:29 | marcelr | why? |
| 14:29 | Joubu | marcelr: I will have a look asap |
| 14:30 | marcelr | dangerous? |
| 14:30 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 14:30 | marcelr | jcamins: will send a mail to dev, please reply too with your argument; thx |
| 14:30 | jcamins | If the consensus on the caching parameters is that they're too dangerous for sysprefs (a consensus I do not agree with, incidentally), this definitely would be! |
| 14:30 | I will. | |
| 14:30 | Barrc | jcamins: Yeah, we've been using the -x but only hit this problem recently |
| 14:31 | jcamins | I figured I'd tell you I disagreed before I responded that I disagreed. ;) |
| 14:31 | Barrc: ah. Weird. | |
| 14:32 | Barrc | hdl: whats the status of this? have you got it running in production? Looks like what I need! |
| 14:32 | jcamins | Barrc: there were some improvements to rebuild_zebra.pl recently that should help. |
| 14:33 | Barrc | jcamins: yeah, just looking at that now, this site is back on 3.4 with associated tools.....wonder if the improved rebuild script has any later dependencies? |
| 14:34 | jcamins | Barrc: shouldn't, no. |
| 14:34 | Barrc | sweet - I will grab it and give it go - thanks. |
| 14:35 | hdl | Barrc: It is running in production. don't know why all the ppl donot have the same problem. |
| 14:35 | Barrc | hdl: thanks... |
| 14:36 | hdl | Barrc: i don't know whether the problem is coped now with new indexer. |
| 14:39 | jcamins | marcelr: I responded. |
| 14:40 | paul_p: around? | |
| 14:41 | marcelr | jcamins: thx; your argument on normal mode makes sense |
| 14:41 | (not speaking about other valid things..) :-) | |
| 14:41 | Barrc | hdl: does this script just put a limit on items? That is, say the bib has 1500 items and the script it build with an item limit of 850, are the remaining items ignored? |
| 14:42 | hdl | yap. |
| 14:43 | Barrc | OK - looks like I've some bib splitting to do! |
| 14:43 | hdl | Because in fact only the 30 first items are shown. |
| 14:43 | Barrc | on the detail screen? |
| 14:43 | hdl | Not on detail screen but in search screen. |
| 14:44 | jcamins | hdl: didn't BibLibre have a patch that fixes the problem without truncating the items at 30? |
| 14:44 | hdl | And getting 950 items on detail screen is also not really handy. We added some datatables on detail page for that. |
| 14:44 | jcamins | I thought I signed off on one. |
| 14:45 | Barrc | right, similar problem I suppose, (in that I get no hits on that screen - however, the items do show on the details screen - sometimes!). |
| 14:45 | hdl: No, its not ideal..... | |
| 14:46 | hdl | Barrc: or you could use zebrasrv with some magic parameter I have forgotten. |
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| 14:46 | hdl | and use -x in order to index the whole record. |
| 14:47 | Barrc | yeah, using -x already..... might try the limit to check it out anyway |
| 14:48 | jcamins | Joubu: did you have a plan for how you wanted to handle SearchAuthorities vs. SimpleSearch in Koha::SearchEngine? |
| 14:52 | Joubu | jcamins: I don't know if I understand your question. But to request Solr, if you want searching for authority or biblio, you just specify the recordtype like : recordtype:biblio or recordtype:authority :) |
| 14:53 | jcamins | Joubu: they have completely different method signatures. |
| 14:53 | Joubu | in opac/search.pl, if user enter "home", the search become: recordtype:biblio AND home |
| 14:53 | jcamins | (which they then turn into queries that go to the same search engine) |
| 14:55 | You know, I think we should use the indexing configuration thing for Zebra, too, and stop using CCL. | |
| 14:55 | (one day...) | |
| 14:56 | clrh | matts asking me what is the "database using for tests" - which one do you use you? |
| 14:56 | jenkins use wich one? sql used in installer ? | |
| 14:56 | jcamins | clrh: I think jenkins uses a database with all the sample data. |
| 14:56 | clrh | where can I grab it? |
| 14:56 | ok sample data in installer/* | |
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| 14:57 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 14:57 | I think. | |
| 14:57 | Joubu: any chance we could persuade you to add a little bit about Test::Mock in the unit tests page on the wiki? | |
| 15:00 | Joubu | jcamins: Yes, I add this on my todo list ;) |
| 15:00 | jcamins | :) |
| 15:00 | Joubu | jcamins: I don't know if I answered to your previous question |
| 15:01 | hdl | jcamins: the SimpleSearch Joubu referenced in what he said is complete rewrite of SimpleSearch... And is used in our rewrite both for Authorities AND biblios. |
| 15:01 | jcamins | Joubu: I figured you were trying to think of an answer. |
| 15:02 | hdl: so the plan is to change the method signature, and simply not use SearchAuthorities? | |
| 15:03 | hdl | No more SearchAuthorities. |
| 15:03 | is the plan. | |
| 15:03 | and has been done in our dev/solr branch | |
| 15:03 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 15:03 | no_more_searchauthorities++ | |
| 15:04 | (though the new search routine should allow for unambiguous searches in the same way that SearchAuthorities did) | |
| 15:05 | Joubu | I'm going to try to catch my train. |
| 15:05 | ++ | |
| 15:06 | jcamins | Good luck! |
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| 15:33 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:34 | jcamins | Is anyone with a 3.8.1 installation around? |
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| 16:41 | jcamins | chris_n: around? |
| 16:44 | chris_n | jcamins: stuffing my face atm :-) |
| 16:44 | jcamins | chris_n: ah, good idea. |
| 16:44 | chris_n | however, I can type and eat at the same time |
| 16:47 | * jcamins | was wondering if MFHD had scared you away from a datatables/jeditable MARC editor. ;) |
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| 16:51 | chris_n | right now the schedule is what's holding me back |
| 16:52 | but that's an old tune | |
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| 16:55 | jcamins | chris_n: it is indeed. |
| 16:56 | * chris_n | is trying to get a new xs module wrapped up |
| 16:57 | chris_n | along with wearing a zillion hats which have little to do with coding :) |
| 16:57 | jcamins | What's the new XS module for? |
| 16:57 | cait-m__ | waves |
| 16:58 | * jcamins | already asked, but also already forgot. |
| 16:58 | waves back. | |
| 16:59 | SJeffery | It sounds like it needs a more descriptive module name! |
| 17:06 | drojf | hey cait-m__ where are you? |
| 17:06 | home? | |
| 17:06 | wahanui | well, home is fine |
| 17:10 | drojf | meeting is in an hour, right? |
| 17:13 | magnuse | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing,_13_June_2012 |
| 17:13 | drojf: looks like it | |
| 17:13 | wahanui | rumour has it looks like it is a replicate of /usr/share/koha/misc |
| 17:13 | magnuse | sure, wahanui :-) |
| 17:13 | wahanui | magnuse: i'm not following you... |
| 17:14 | magnuse | oh you're not, are you? |
| 17:14 | drojf | :D |
| 17:14 | jcamins | magnuse: are you doing an imitation of slef? |
| 17:19 | drojf | wasn't there supposed to be a bid for kohacon 2013 in mexico? |
| 17:19 | jcamins | Hey, wizzyrea, a couple of the other NEKLS-ans, and I were talking about client-side record display using AJAX. Retrieve the MARCXML using opac-export, then process the DOM using jQuery. |
| 17:20 | (or not via AJAX, with the MARCXML embedded directly into the page) | |
| 17:21 | magnuse: thoughts? | |
| 17:34 | oleonard-away | jcamins: I've done something like that before |
| 17:34 | * oleonard | tries to remember where and how |
| 17:35 | jcamins | oleonard: how did it work? I'm using http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]map_the_publisher.27s_location but there's a lot more one could do. |
| 17:36 | chris_n | jcamins: it provides a binding to the USPS intelligent mail barcode library |
| 17:36 | dpavlin | if I'm not seriously mistaken next talk on YAPC::NA is about CHI http://ics.webcast.uwex.edu/me[…]f4a95b7372648711d http://act.yapcna.org/2012/talk/110 |
| 17:36 | jcamins | chris_n: ah, yes. Sorry, I think this is the third time I asked you. |
| 17:36 | Ooh! | |
| 17:36 | oleonard | jcamins: Oh yeah I remember, I used unapi |
| 17:37 | * jcamins | will tell his spy at YAPC to attend. |
| 17:37 | jcamins | His spy at YAPC is busy. |
| 17:38 | chris_n | you mean I have to bow to bill in order to watch that stream? |
| 17:38 | it prompts to install Silverlight | |
| 17:38 | jcamins | Oh, it's online. And was an hour ago. |
| 17:38 | chris_n | interesting that perl folks would be using non-open source streaming services |
| 17:38 | * jcamins | will watch it himself, later. |
| 17:39 | * dpavlin | dosn't have video -- Linux and silverlight are never good combination. Good for IRC meething, bad for CHI :-) |
| 17:41 | jcamins | dpavlin: CHI is very cool. |
| 17:41 | * jcamins | looks forward to having the opportunity to make Koha take more advantage of it. |
| 17:42 | SJeffery | jcamins: Is there anything you are not working on? |
| 17:44 | jcamins | SJeffery: uhhh... |
| 17:44 | I was going to say "authentication," but I just decided yesterday to do some poking at that. | |
| 17:44 | * jcamins | has decided not to use username/password for authenticating to his sandboxes. |
| 17:44 | jcamins | SJeffery: ooh! But I'm not doing any work relating to patrons in Koha. |
| 17:44 | (other than authentication) | |
| 17:45 | SJeffery | Give it a week |
| 17:45 | I am confident in your ability to find something | |
| 17:45 | dpavlin | jcamins: so far I lerned that sessions should go into CGI, as well as TT cache :-) |
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| 17:47 | Brooke | o/ |
| 17:52 | magnuse | jcamins: as long as you can be sure it works on all sorts of devices, down to mobile phones... |
| 17:54 | kyleh around? i owe you a reward for saving soo many kittehs! | |
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| 17:56 | jcamins | dpavlin: why would sessions go into TT? |
| 17:56 | dpavlin | jcamins: sorry, I ment that both sessions and TT cache should go into CHI. |
| 17:57 | jcamins | magnuse: well, this is actually the problem... random passwords are hard to remember and type into non-hardware keyboards. |
| 17:58 | * dpavlin | ponders about replacing all our caching with CHI... might be good way to flush our at least part of API for our future data accessors :-) |
| 17:58 | jcamins | dpavlin: see bug 8092. |
| 17:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should use CHI caching framework |
| 17:58 | jcamins | No. |
| 17:58 | Bug 8029? | |
| 17:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8029 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED INVALID, Allow ExtendedPatronAttributes to *not* be searched when enabled. |
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| 17:58 | jcamins | No. |
| 17:58 | Bug 8090? | |
| 17:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8090 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , item links should have descriptive text |
| 17:59 | jcamins | @query cache |
| 17:59 | huginn | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3686 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Hold slips sometimes don't print barcode |
| 17:59 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5217 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , INSTALL.ubuntu Packages/CPAN notes out of date for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid) | |
| 17:59 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6172 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Zebra not indexed Unimarc-records | |
| 17:59 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8148 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , ldap authentication should FAIL if ldap contains NEW password, and user types the PREVIOUS password | |
| 17:59 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7177 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, dpavlin, ASSIGNED , memoize more function calls to speed up Koha | |
| 17:59 | jcamins | Ummm... |
| 17:59 | @query Koha::Cache | |
| 17:59 | Brooke | tick tock |
| 17:59 | huginn | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1918 enhancement, P3, ---, dpavlin, In Discussion , Minify JavaScript and CSS |
| 17:59 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8089 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Use Koha::Cache everywhere | |
| 17:59 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, P3, ---, chrish, Pushed to Master , Caching for services | |
| 17:59 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should use CHI caching framework | |
| 17:59 | jcamins | Bug 8089. |
| 17:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8089 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Use Koha::Cache everywhere |
| 17:59 | jcamins | (but don't use that patch, as I want to do a new one that's better) |
| 17:59 | dpavlin | Yap, I noticed Koha::Cache landed in master, that's *WHY* I'm watching CHI talk :-) |
| 18:00 | Brooke | @startmeeting |
| 18:00 | huginn | Brooke: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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| 18:01 | Brooke | #startmeeting |
| 18:01 | wahanui | if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me |
| 18:01 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Jun 13 18:01:30 2012 UTC. The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 18:01 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | |
| 18:01 | Brooke | Hi and welcome to the Koha Community Meeting |
| 18:02 | please use #info to introduce yourselves | |
| 18:02 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions | |
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| 18:02 | mveron | Hi everybody :-) |
| 18:02 | #info Marc Véron, marc veron ag, Allschwil, Switzerland | |
| 18:02 | Brooke | #topic Introductions |
| 18:02 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 18:02 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions | |
| 18:02 | drojf1 | #info Mirko Tietgen, Language centre @ HU Berlin, Germany |
| 18:02 | magnuse | #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway |
| 18:02 | cait-m__ | #info katrin fischer |
| 18:02 | jwagner | #info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS |
| 18:02 | jcamins | #info Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services, LLC |
| 18:02 | sekjal | #info Ian Walls, 3.10 QA Manager |
| 18:02 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA |
| 18:03 | cait-m__ | on bus |
| 18:03 | * magnuse | mentions in passing that Libriotech is 3 years old today - yay! |
| 18:03 | mglavica | #info Marijana Glavica, FFZG, Croatia |
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| 18:03 | cait-m__ | yay |
| 18:03 | drojf1 | magnuse: congrats |
| 18:03 | mveron | Greetings from Marc Balmer, he is travelling today and can not attend the meeting |
| 18:03 | dpavlin | #info Dobrica Pavlinusic, FFZG, Croatia |
| 18:04 | cait-m__ | lurking still travelling |
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| 18:05 | magnuse | probably lots of people traveling today? |
| 18:05 | Brooke | a yep |
| 18:05 | cait-m__ | rangi is too but most people are home i think |
| 18:06 | Brooke | #topic Roadmap to 3.4 |
| 18:06 | Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.4 | |
| 18:06 | Brooke | any comments here? |
| 18:06 | cait-m__ | eol? |
| 18:06 | * oleonard | would think so |
| 18:07 | Brooke | we might want to hold off killing it with fire til next meeting since the last time I tried folks were like "noooooooooo my 3.4" |
| 18:07 | oleonard | Agenda: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_June_2012#Agenda |
| 18:08 | jcamins | Brooke: there is no one maintaining 3.4, so it is de facto end of life. |
| 18:08 | Brooke | but I'm thinking warn the listserv |
| 18:08 | one lasssst tim | |
| 18:08 | e | |
| 18:08 | cait-m__ | nods |
| 18:08 | dead | |
| 18:08 | dort | |
| 18:08 | Brooke | #topic Roadmap to 3.6 |
| 18:08 | Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.6 | |
| 18:09 | cait-m__ | ,grrr sorry for bad typing |
| 18:09 | jcamins | 3.6.6 should be released around June 23. |
| 18:10 | #info The 3.6.x-maint/testing branch contains all candidates for inclusion in 3.6.x. If any patches cause problems, they will not be included in a stable release. | |
| 18:10 | #info Patches pushed to master on or before May 15 are eligible for inclusion in 3.6.6. | |
| 18:11 | #info I expect to push those patches that will be in 3.6.6 to the 3.6.x branch over the weekend. | |
| 18:12 | That's really it, I think. | |
| 18:12 | Any questions? | |
| 18:12 | Oh! | |
| 18:12 | magnuse | eythian has been working on getting 3.6.x a.k.a old-stable into the official repo? |
| 18:12 | jcamins | #info 3.6.x packages are available at debian.koha-community.org/koha in the 'oldstable' distribution. |
| 18:12 | magnuse | ah, thanks |
| 18:12 | cait-m__ | can you consider 2 patches for acq? |
| 18:12 | tt fixes | |
| 18:13 | jcamins | cait-m__: provided they are pushed to master prior to 15 June and seem inoffensive, yes. |
| 18:14 | chris_n | #info Chris Nighswonger, FBC |
| 18:14 | jcamins | Any other questions? |
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| 18:15 | Brooke | seeing none moving on |
| 18:15 | * chris_n | notes that 3.4.x is defacto eol unless someone screams really loudly |
| 18:15 | Brooke | #topic Roadmap to 3.8 |
| 18:15 | Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.8 | |
| 18:16 | Brooke | anyone have marching orders from Chris? |
| 18:17 | cait-m__ | home now |
| 18:18 | Brooke | #topic Roadmap to 3.10 |
| 18:18 | Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.10 | |
| 18:18 | Brooke | take it away Paul |
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| 18:18 | cait | oh that feels better |
| 18:19 | * oleonard | thinks we should start scheduling meetings around people's schedules |
| 18:19 | Brooke | would be nice |
| 18:19 | jcamins | 3.8.2 should be coming out on schedule, I think. |
| 18:19 | cait | I think so too, haven't heard otherwise :) |
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| 18:22 | * chris_n | drops a pin :) |
| 18:22 | oleonard | So, uh.... |
| 18:23 | cait | next topic? |
| 18:23 | Brooke | #topic KohaCon12 |
| 18:23 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon12 | |
| 18:23 | Brooke | it was awesome from what I saw, yes? |
| 18:23 | oleonard | I move that we adjourn and reschedule |
| 18:23 | Brooke | I have stuff to lock down, so I'd rather not. |
| 18:24 | drojf | kohacon was awesome indeed |
| 18:24 | cait | not so fair making decisions with only a few people |
| 18:24 | perhaps a few days later? | |
| 18:24 | but perhaps we are enough, missed the introductions | |
| 18:25 | chris_n | or at least defer new business until next meeting? |
| 18:25 | Brooke | ok fine by me |
| 18:25 | when's the next meeting | |
| 18:25 | I will say that this sucks for conference planning | |
| 18:26 | and that I really wanted to lock that down last meeting | |
| 18:26 | and now I get to wait another month with no real need to do so | |
| 18:26 | oleonard | What can we lock down? |
| 18:26 | magnuse | the final date for bidding a schedule for voting? |
| 18:26 | s/a/and/ | |
| 18:27 | Brooke | I just want to close the bids in two weeksish so we can have a proper vote on whoever puts in for it |
| 18:27 | we haven't even solidified the slate | |
| 18:27 | drojf | say bids allowed until end of month, would be fair enough? |
| 18:28 | oleonard | What is the slate to which you refer Brooke? |
| 18:28 | cait | and mail to the mailing list abou tit |
| 18:28 | maybe the blog too | |
| 18:28 | Brooke | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon2013 |
| 18:28 | #info Make sure you put your bid up at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon2013 | |
| 18:29 | rhcl | #info rhcl=Rolling Hills Consolidated Library - sorry for late checkin |
| 18:29 | drojf | dpavlin mglavica what's with croatia? you wrote to the ml a while ago |
| 18:29 | Brooke | I know there was interest on list that never translated to the wiki, and I've been pulling teeth for a couple months about it |
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| 18:29 | mglavica | yes, we wrote |
| 18:29 | but we would like to go somwhere else, also :) | |
| 18:30 | drojf | heh |
| 18:30 | dpavlin | It would benefit us to visit one more KohaCon to get idea what it takes to make it happend. |
| 18:30 | Brooke | ah okay |
| 18:30 | dpavlin | and we still have a problem about two Europe Cons in the row :-) |
| 18:30 | mglavica | well maybe we are lazy |
| 18:30 | Brooke | so that's one accounted for |
| 18:30 | ASUSunDevil | Hello all, I have an implementation of Koha 3.8 running, thank to the help I recieved here. I am running into an issue. In the Global System Preferenes for cataloging, I have the "DefaultClassificationSource" set to Library of Congress Classification. Also, I have set the "itemcall number" to "050ab" to use the LCC. However, when importing a record from the LCC in the z3950 search, on the import |
| 18:30 | page (tab 9), the "Source of Classification or Shelving Scheme" still defaults to dewey decimal and we have to manually change it and enter the LC information. Is this a bug or is there a trick to getting this to default to L of C? | |
| 18:30 | oleonard | ASUSunDevil: We're in the middle of a meeting |
| 18:31 | drojf | ASUSunDevil: there is a meeting going on, maybe in half an hour? |
| 18:31 | ASUSunDevil | sorry...will return |
| 18:31 | jcamins | ASUSunDevil: there is a meeting going on right now. If you ask your question in about half an hour or forty-five minutes, people might be able to help. |
| 18:31 | Whoops. | |
| 18:31 | Sorry. | |
| 18:31 | I was third to say that. | |
| 18:31 | Brooke | shouldn't take a half hour |
| 18:32 | but I will say #help think about things related to bug squashing | |
| 18:32 | so here's what I'm going to propose a la Owen | |
| 18:32 | we shuffle all the stuff that's on the wiki til next meeting | |
| 18:32 | and I send a final warning out to bid now or forever hold your peace to the listserv | |
| 18:32 | anything else before we take off? | |
| 18:33 | magnuse | should we set dates for bidding and voting? |
| 18:34 | bidding has been open a loong time, hasnt it? we could close it in 2 or 4 weeks and having voting 1 week after that or something? | |
| 18:34 | s/having/have/ | |
| 18:34 | oleonard | I agree with the suggestion to end bidding at the end of the month |
| 18:34 | jcamins | I'd say 2 weeks is plenty. |
| 18:34 | Brooke | I was thinking 2 weeks to close the slate and 2 weeks to vote |
| 18:34 | jcamins | Bidding was opened... |
| 18:34 | Brooke | Marchish |
| 18:35 | jcamins | February? |
| 18:35 | March. | |
| 18:35 | Whatever. | |
| 18:35 | wahanui | whatever is most appropriate for the situation. |
| 18:35 | oleonard | Brooke: Open vote in 2 weeks or hold voting open for 2 weeks? |
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| 18:35 | Brooke | both |
| 18:36 | oleonard | +1 from me on Brooke's proposal |
| 18:36 | magnuse | +1 |
| 18:36 | dpavlin | +1 |
| 18:36 | mveron | +1 |
| 18:36 | mglavica | +1 |
| 18:36 | cait | 0 |
| 18:36 | jcamins | +1 |
| 18:36 | dpavlin | cait: ? |
| 18:36 | drojf | +1 |
| 18:37 | * cait | would like the voting time to be a little bit longer but have no real problem with the proposal :) |
| 18:37 | * dpavlin | makes sense, but it helps conference organizers to know whether they have to do it or not ASAP :-) |
| 18:38 | cait | yep |
| 18:38 | so I think decision made? | |
| 18:38 | Brooke | looks like |
| 18:38 | magnuse | yay! |
| 18:38 | oleonard | Who set up the voting last time around? |
| 18:38 | drojf | i think the time is alright. nag people on the mailing list twice during that time maybe |
| 18:38 | magnuse | oleonard: nengard |
| 18:38 | wahanui | hmmm... nengard is fast |
| 18:38 | Brooke | #info the bid slate will finalise in 2 weeks. Voting will be open for 2 weeks. |
| 18:38 | nengard | hello |
| 18:39 | Yes I will set up the vote | |
| 18:39 | Brooke | awesome, thanks :) |
| 18:39 | nengard++ | |
| 18:39 | nengard | But I missed the beginning of the meeting so please point me to where the final choices are |
| 18:39 | Brooke | drojf: are you willing to do the nagging 2ce? |
| 18:39 | they aren't yet | |
| 18:39 | drojf | Brooke: yes i try to remember |
| 18:39 | Brooke | they'll be on the wiki in 2 weeks' time |
| 18:40 | oleonard | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon2013 |
| 18:40 | Brooke | #action drojf or someone else will try and nag about Conference bidding 2 times in the coming weeks |
| 18:40 | nengard | #info Nicole C. Engard, ByWater Solutions |
| 18:40 | Brooke | there's a lot of good stuff on the agenda about bug signoffs, please look at it |
| 18:42 | how does 18 July sound for next meeting? | |
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| 18:43 | sekjal | +1 |
| 18:44 | oleonard | +1 |
| 18:44 | chris_n | +1 |
| 18:44 | drojf | +1 |
| 18:44 | cait | +1 |
| 18:44 | Brooke | it will be at everyone's favourite 2 UTC |
| 18:45 | drojf | meh |
| 18:45 | Brooke | #agreed next meeting is at 2 UTC 18 July |
| 18:45 | #endmeeting | |
| 18:45 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.8.1, 3.6.5 and 3.4.8 Now Available | Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org/ | http://paste.koha-community.org | General IRC Meeting 13 June 2012 at 18:00 UTC+0 | |
| 18:45 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Jun 13 18:45:44 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 18:45 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-06-13-18.01.html | |
| 18:45 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]2-06-13-18.01.txt | |
| 18:45 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]13-18.01.log.html | |
| 18:47 | * Oak | waves |
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| 18:51 | mveron | Good night everybody :-) |
| 18:51 | cait | good night mveron :) |
| 18:51 | oh, too slow and window scrolling broken again | |
| 18:53 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.8.1, 3.6.5 and 3.4.8 Now Available | Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org/ | http://paste.koha-community.org | General IRC Meeting 18 July 2012 at 02:00 UTC+0 | |
| 18:56 | jcamins | 02:00 UTC. |
| 18:56 | Wait... shouldn't it be at 10:00 UTC? | |
| 18:56 | (as oleonard wrote) | |
| 18:57 | Brooke | it's 2 |
| 18:57 | goes 18 | |
| 18:57 | 2 | |
| 18:57 | 10 | |
| 18:57 | jcamins | Okay, not 18, 10, 2. |
| 18:57 | Brooke | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Starting_Times |
| 18:57 | oleonard | Did I write the wrong time in my message? |
| 18:57 | Brooke | nope, 18, 10, 2 would make sense |
| 18:57 | therefore we must not do that | |
| 18:58 | yep | |
| 18:59 | cait | I know it should be the midday one |
| 18:59 | because the one before that meeting was the eew too early one | |
| 19:00 | if that makes any sense ;) | |
| 19:00 | if it's 3 am again, we got it wrong | |
| 19:00 | * cait | wanders off to take a long hot shower |
| 19:00 | * jcamins | is now confused. |
| 19:00 | cait | at least one good thing about being finally home :) |
| 19:00 | jcamins | Someone else can e-mail the list to clarify that I actually was wrong about the time. |
| 19:00 | drojf | 10 looks right from the wiki?! |
| 19:01 | cait | jcamins: perhaps check the meeting logs for the last meeting? |
| 19:01 | jcamins | cait: now I'm too confused to figure it out. :P |
| 19:01 | drojf | 2-18-10. we had 18 now |
| 19:02 | cait | drojf: 2 is the ew one, right? |
| 19:02 | drojf | yep |
| 19:03 | jcamins | drojf: would you e-mail the list saying "Jared is mistaken, the meeting will be at 10:00 UTC+0"? |
| 19:03 | cait | meaning the one that is too early in the morning for any working european |
| 19:03 | heh | |
| 19:03 | drojf | cait: 2 utc right now should be 0:00 here |
| 19:03 | cait | let's confuse everyone :) |
| 19:03 | jcamins | cait: I know! Let's announce the meeting is at every possible slot on that day! |
| 19:04 | oleonard | 24-hour meeting, votes ever hour, day-end averages win. |
| 19:04 | Brooke | heh |
| 19:04 | jcamins | oleonard: yeah! That'd be great fun! |
| 19:04 | * magnuse | wanders off |
| 19:05 | drojf | i see |
| 19:05 | 2 May 2012 at 02:00 UTC+0 | |
| 19:05 | 13 June 2012 at 18:00 UTC+0 | |
| 19:05 | 18 july 2012 at 10 UTC+0 | |
| 19:05 | Brooke | I had a 17ish hour Fraternity meeting once |
| 19:05 | good times. | |
| 19:05 | cait | drojf++ :) |
| 19:06 | Oak | me go now. later. |
| 19:06 | oleonard | For whom is 2:00 UTC+0 a good meeting time? |
| 19:07 | drojf | i wrote about 10 utc to the list now |
| 19:07 | please let's change it again ;) | |
| 19:08 | 2 utc is bad for all europe | |
| 19:08 | probably good for us? | |
| 19:08 | US, not us | |
| 19:08 | jcamins | drojf: bad for the US, too. |
| 19:08 | drojf | oh |
| 19:08 | ok | |
| 19:08 | then i dont know | |
| 19:08 | jcamins | I've had to rearrange my schedule to make a few of those. |
| 19:09 | (not that I ever make the 10 UTC meetings, of course) | |
| 19:09 | davidnind | See http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Starting_Times for some examples, good for New Zealand (3PM)! |
| 19:10 | cait | and india maybe? |
| 19:10 | drojf | depending on my mood, 2 utc (12 at night) is better than 10 utc (8 in the morning) |
| 19:10 | oleonard | With all due respect to India, I don't believe they've been well-represented even in that time slot |
| 19:11 | chris_n | logs? |
| 19:11 | wahanui | logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 19:11 | cait | oleonard: I know |
| 19:11 | I was for killing tha tmeeting time... | |
| 19:11 | always | |
| 19:11 | * cait | is mean |
| 19:11 | cait | but there is never much attendance |
| 19:12 | chris_n | confusion-- |
| 19:12 | * chris_n | won't be there :-) |
| 19:14 | * jcamins | probably won't be there either way. |
| 19:14 | drojf | they will postpone everything again because nobody is there |
| 19:14 | we should have a kohacon each month | |
| 19:14 | and someone to pay for it | |
| 19:15 | jcamins | I move that people sign off on everything they can. |
| 19:15 | And encourage others to do the same. | |
| 19:15 | * cait | seconds drojf's suggestion |
| 19:16 | oleonard | I move that kittens are cute, fudge is tasty, and Koha is great. |
| 19:16 | cait | accepted |
| 19:18 | drojf | i still calculate one hour back when looking at the time on my notebook. edinbugh feeling |
| 19:20 | * jcamins | wonders why someone just did a blog post about install Koha on Ubuntu with the instructions to install Jaunty. |
| 19:21 | oleonard | Where's that? |
| 19:21 | drojf | really old ubuntu |
| 19:22 | they up the first letter for every release name, jaunty is "j", i think they are at "p" now | |
| 19:23 | jcamins | The instructions will work for 10.04 (Lucid) only. |
| 19:23 | Actually, I guess they'll work for later versions too, but you shouldn't use CPAN for 10.10 or later. | |
| 19:24 | drojf | oh i can't read. i thought oleonard asked "what's that" :/ still tired |
| 19:24 | jcamins | *installing Koha |
| 19:25 | You know, I think maybe it's about time for me to call it a day. | |
| 19:25 | Splitting headache, and I can't type. :( | |
| 19:27 | drojf | hm i dont get it. so meeting is at 2 utc now even though that was the time for last meeting? |
| 19:28 | we agreed on a day, nobody voted for the time, so why not use the one that would have its turn now? | |
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| 19:56 | chris_n | drojf: seems that 1000 UTC should be next in rotation |
| 19:57 | cait | chris_n: no, drojf is right |
| 19:57 | the meeting before today was the early time, it's wrong to do that again | |
| 19:57 | and it will basically kill another meeting with lack of attendance | |
| 19:58 | chris_n | cait: are we sure that 0200 is, indeed, next in the order of rotation? |
| 19:58 | was the 2 may meeting @ 0200? | |
| 19:59 | cait | drojf listed the last meeting times |
| 19:59 | chris_n | if so, wouldn't that make the next @ 1000 |
| 19:59 | cait | from that I think next is 10 and I remember not being at the last one because of the evil time |
| 19:59 | chris_n | right, I was saying that I think the next is 1000 |
| 19:59 | not 0200 | |
| 19:59 | even though the vote went for 0200 | |
| 20:00 | so I was simply correcting based on the vote, not what I think myself :-) | |
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| 20:00 | * chris_n | will probably never be present for 0200 meetings anyway :-P |
| 20:01 | wajasu | fyi, here is sed one-liner that grabs the desired XML parser and places it at the end if the file -> sed -i -n -e '/XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser/,/./!p' -e '/XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser/,/./H;$!d' -e '$x;p' /etc/perl/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini |
| 20:02 | cait | chris_n: exactly my argument ;) |
| 20:02 | * chris_n | concurs 100% |
| 20:03 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.8.1, 3.6.5 and 3.4.8 Now Available | Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org/ | http://paste.koha-community.org | General IRC Meeting 18 July 2012 at 10:00 UTC+0 | |
| 20:03 | chris_n | that was easy :-) |
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| 20:44 | mbalmer | good evening |
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| 20:48 | SJeffery | What is the name for one of those rectangles you get with an invalid character (character that could not display)? |
| 20:49 | jeff | that's the "I [] UNICODE" character. |
| 20:49 | actually, it's known as the "replacement character", and is often seen as the black diamond with a question mark, except on windows systems where it's the grey dashed box. | |
| 20:51 | (either because windows does not support/usr the unicode replacement character, or because its representation of U+FFFD mimics an earlier/existing windows convention for 'undisplayable', I do not know. | |
| 20:51 | ) | |
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| 20:54 | SJeffery | What I am running into is that pasting text that contains that into the 520 field and then saving the record gives an immediate 500 error and causes the record not to save...it does not look like it is a reported bug as far as I can tell? |
| 20:54 | It looks similar to 2916 but I can't really tell? | |
| 20:55 | mbalmer | isn't 0xFD special character in marc reords? |
| 20:56 | SJeffery | No clue... |
| 20:58 | mbalmer | I dunno what Koha does underneath, but FD ia Marc record has a special meaning. but I m not sure if that causes the prob. |
| 20:59 | jcamins | SJeffery: do you know what the invalid character was supposed to be? |
| 21:00 | SJeffery | It is something copied from an OCR's pdf...so it was originally a -, but what it OCR's as is unknown. |
| 21:01 | But even if Koha does not recognize the character it should not be putting out a 500 error | |
| 21:01 | jcamins | Yeah, I had a feeling it was an em dash. |
| 21:02 | SJeffery | This is driving our analytics catalogers batty :) |
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| 21:02 | jcamins | I'd report a new bug, and try to get the server logs from when that happened. |
| 21:04 | It is not the same as bug 2916. | |
| 21:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2916 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Invalid characters may be successfully entered ( or imported) in Koha bibs that cause fatal xml parser errors |
| 21:06 | jcamins | A possible workaround may be copying the text into Microsoft Word, saving the Word file, and then copying out of Word. |
| 21:06 | I'm not sure that will work, but I think I'd give you even odds on it. | |
| 21:07 | (OpenOffice/LibreOffice will probably not do it, because they don't mess with your text) | |
| 21:08 | SJeffery | Yeah, we have tried that and it does not work. Notepad does not either. I have yet to find a way to get around it, grr. |
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| 21:09 | jcamins | SJeffery: darn. And here I thought that I was the only person who would have had the misfortune to learn that trick. |
| 21:09 | SJeffery: I'd file a bug. | |
| 21:11 | wajasu | if you are under linux you might use the od -x -c OCRedfile to see what code it is and mention that in the bug. |
| 21:11 | SJeffery | Yeah. I submitted it to our host so that we can get the server logs...they should post the bug with the logs. |
| 21:12 | Sadly, I am in a corporate environment with IE, which just makes it worse! | |
| 21:12 | wajasu | or attach the OCRedfile. |
| 21:12 | or pastebin it and reference it inthe bug | |
| 21:13 | SJeffery | I attached the pdf |
| 21:15 | wajasu | but what the ocr software generates is important to know what the binary code being input is. and to recreate the bug. |
| 21:16 | SJeffery | Yeah. I figured it was better to include the original pdf that we are copying from, that way I can't screw it up, hehe |
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| 22:03 | jcamins | @later tell cait Something for you to test: bug 7943. |
| 22:03 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:21 | jcamins | Does anyone have a preferred set of a dozen sample authority records? |
| 22:25 | Did I forget to include a test plan? | |
| 22:25 | I did. | |
| 22:25 | I forgot to include a test plan. | |
| 22:27 | * jcamins | writes a test plan. |
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| 23:27 | jcamins | @later tell cait If you want, you can test 6720, too. |
| 23:27 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:29 | jcamins | @later tell cait Since that won't be enough to keep you busy, I also recommend bug 8206. |
| 23:29 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:31 | jcamins | @later tell cait Another nice authority-related patch for signoff: bug 8205. |
| 23:31 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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| 23:36 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Hello everyone, I need some help with the staff side card catalog. I want to search for new acquisitions from 05-01-2012 to current date. Is there a way to do so? |
| 23:38 | jcamins | @later tell dpavlin If you could take a look at bug 8221, I'd be grateful. I have no idea how to track down the problem. |
| 23:38 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:38 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: there is a report that will do something that like that. |
| 23:38 | reports library/ | |
| 23:38 | reports library? | |
| 23:38 | wahanui | reports library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
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| 23:53 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Thank you Jcamins!! |
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