IRC log for #koha, 2012-06-13

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02:53 jan2018500 hello
02:53 people
02:53 can i ask something about koha barcoding
02:53 how can i set up our own barcode in koha?
02:54 mtj there are barcode plugins for koha
02:54 jan2018500 in administration ryt there is preferences about catalonging then the say that autobarcode then u can choose not generally automatic and etc...
02:55 so our library make new barcode then how can i set up dat  coz there's a automatic barcode wen i enter my books
02:55 barcode plugins where is that?
02:56 mtj disable the auto-barcode syspref?
02:56 jan2018500 then after that?
02:56 mtj what do you want to do?
02:57 create a new autobarcode format for Koha?
02:57 jan2018500 how?
02:57 mtj what do you want to do?
02:58 create a new autobarcode format for Koha?
02:58 yes, or no?
03:01 if you do want to create a new autobarcode format for Koha, here's an example...
03:02 http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=he[…]69983931728eac8f5
03:03 jan2018500 thanks sir:)
03:03 mtj ...its for a 'branch-code' + '1234' type barcode
03:03 it's working well (i put it live has night) :)
03:04 but, its still waaaay to much code, i think...
03:05 jan2018500 if u change the autobarcode from not generally automatic its look like this ryt.....ex. 5541 but if u click the generally barcode its look like this...AJA00001
03:06 but u know sir other software like follet they are set up barcode they want. ex.  JLDM000521
03:06 mtj well, that depends on what records you have in your system, of course - and your sysprefs too :)
03:06 jan2018500 i see
03:07 mtj hope that example helps you...
03:07 jan2018500 so koha they automatically gives up barcode like my library name depends on my library name set up?
03:07 mtj yep
03:09 my barcode plugin is a 'BRANCH0001' format, etc...
03:10 jan2018500 what about opac dislpaying sir?
03:10 how can we separte
03:14 from other document
03:14 i mean make other site
03:19 mtj i dont know that, sorry...
03:25 jan2018500 ok
03:25 thanks
03:28 mtj jan2018500: send an email to the koha mailing-list, if you need more help :)
03:28 http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/
03:34 jan2018500 thank you sir
03:37 mtj jan2018500: what type of barcode format you you have?
03:42 jan2018500 only number sir but if i change from generated branch is like this...AJA0001 AJA IS AIIAS JUNIOR ACADEMY LIKE THAT
04:06 mtj sounds like he just needed to change his autoBarcode syspref too 'form 1,2,3,4'... :/
04:06 oh , well...
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04:35 Oak kia ora #koha
04:35 mobile cait hi!
04:38 bag evening
04:45 Oak evening bag
04:45 bag heya Oak
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05:31 druthb o/
05:32 bag hi ruth
05:32 whoops druthb
05:32 druthb hi, bag.
05:33 Best Boss EVAR.
05:33 bag awww thanks
05:33 druthb Sends me to cool geek-type conferences n stuffs.
05:33 bag :D
05:42 Oak bag++
05:42 druthb bag++
05:42 Oak :)
05:42 bag heh thanks :)
05:43 * druthb waves to Oak.
05:43 * Oak waves back happily
05:43 Oak what's new druthb ?
05:44 druthb I'm enjoying http://yapcna.org/conference a whole awful lot.  Amazing geeky people here.
05:45 Oak whoa
05:45 lucky you!!!
05:45 this looks cool
05:47 druthb It is a great conference.  lots of fun collaborative people.
05:49 There is a similar conference in Europe...uhm...bag...can i go?  :P
05:49 bag not this year ;)
05:49 druthb ;)
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06:21 alex_a hello !
06:24 drojf hi alex_a
06:24 cait-m__ helllo
06:24 drojf good monrning #koha
06:25 hi cait-m__
06:25 cait-m__ :-)
06:25 alex_a hello drojf cait-m__
06:25 drojf so much for sleeping in today, got a raspberry pi delivered pretty early
06:25 alex_a cait-m__ ?
06:25 wahanui cait-m__ is ready to give in
06:28 drojf cait-m__: when is your plane going?
06:29 cait-m__ around 1 pm
06:29 time to pack
06:31 drojf where do you change? frankfurt?
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06:32 * cait waves
06:33 drojf hi another cait :)
06:34 cait heya
06:34 bag heya cait
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06:38 reiveune hello
06:44 cait hi reiveune
06:44 reiveune hi cait :)
06:45 cjh from the intranet how can I see the non-public notes on items? The only way I can seem to view them is from the edit->edit items page
06:45 cait cjh: in cataloguing or in hte marc view
06:45 cjh: the problem is that it's not a field in items for non-public notes righ tnow
06:46 there is a patch in bugzilla to fix that
06:46 cjh yeah I noticed it isnt tied to the db, a patch sounds awesome.
06:46 cait check for non-public note
06:46 I am a bit guilty about it being not in yet
06:46 cjh why guilty?
06:46 cait drojf: sunny weather in edinburgh today...
06:47 cjh cait: thanks for the pointer to the patch :)
06:47 cait cjh: because I was not happy with the database update
06:47 alex_a cait: sunny ??
06:47 cait cjh: no problem :)
06:47 alex_a: I swear
06:47 alex_a: that hot bright thing on the sky we call sun
06:47 of course... I have to leave today
06:48 alex_a now we are gone, sun is coming in edinburgh
06:48 cait: lol
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06:52 drojf hm then now is the dax to climb arthur's seat. buti'm gone. unfair
06:53 day
06:56 julian_m hi
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07:04 cait drojf: don't think i am climbing that for you!
07:04 matts hi #koha !
07:05 drojf cait: oooooh please do :D
07:05 cait drojf: nope!
07:05 drojf bonjour matts
07:05 cait hi matts :)
07:05 with you all gone, it's maybe time to return home
07:05 why did you all go???
07:05 matts aren't you home already ?
07:06 cait no, flying today at 1:35 pm
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07:07 matts okay
07:07 alex_a matts: and it's sunny in Edinburgh today !
07:08 matts ^^
07:10 cait it is
07:10 blue sky
07:16 matts, alex_a: back at work?
07:17 matts yep !
07:17 Back to my cats !
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07:19 alex_a cait: yes
07:19 cait morning asaurat
07:21 asaurat good morning!
07:21 drojf hi asaurat
07:21 mtj here's VIM regex Q.... how to change the default '/' separator character, to something else...?
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07:22 mtj (i've done it recently - but i didnt write the command down anywhere)
07:24 ooh, found it : ) -> http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Search_and_replace
07:24 :s#http://www.example.com/index.html#http://example.com/#
07:26 too easy :)  '^' chars seem to works too...
07:26 :s^http://www.example.com/index.html^http://example.com/^
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07:38 samuel hi everybody
07:39 cait hi samuel
07:49 hah! I found my airlink bus return ticket :)
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08:43 bag well evening again
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08:43 cait-m__ waves
08:44 bag heya cait-m__
08:44 wahanui i think cait-m__ is ready to give in
08:44 bag you on the way home?
08:46 cait-m__ yep
08:46 on bus to airport now
08:47 lamiette safe travels!
08:47 Oak have a safe journey
08:47 cait-m__ thx :-)
08:47 Oak don't flatter yourself, we need cookies that's all.
08:47 cait-m__ still sad to leave
08:48 Oak aw
08:48 cait-m__ lol
08:48 thx Oak
08:48 mtj good luck cait :)
08:49 ooh, wifi on teh bus?
08:49 Oak *hugs* we must travel. stay for a while somewhere, then return home, then prepare for the next journey. don't be sad.
08:49 cait-m__ yes
08:50 Oak may be next time i'll be able to annoy you in person.
08:50 hopefully.
08:50 cait-m__ :-)
08:50 Oak okay safe travel. talk too much. quiet now.
08:50 cait-m__ that would be nice
08:50 Oak :)
08:52 "okay safe travel. talk too much. quiet now." == "okay safe travel. I talk too much. I'll be quiet now."
08:54 cait-m__ iit's ok, the bus ride is not that interesting
08:54 Oak why not. look out through the window and you will see trees are moving with your bus.
08:54 cait-m__ it's really warm today in edinburgh
08:54 nicest weather so far
08:55 asaurat cait-m__: are you sure you're still in Edinburgh ??
08:55 didn't your hotel move during the night ??
09:06 mtj woo, free e2-ish web-hosting at dotcloud.com?!
09:07 i just signed-up, looks kinda awesome!
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09:23 mveron Hi everybody #koha
09:24 slef hello #koha from #bibliohack
09:27 mveron Hope everybody had a good  journey from Edinburgh back home...
09:27 asaurat hi marc
09:28 mveron hi asaurat
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09:30 mveron hi mbalmer
09:30 mbalmer hi marc
09:36 back home?
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09:48 mveron mbalmer: ...and swimming in a blister...
09:48 mbalmer same here...
09:50 mveron And I have guests from a school in Pakistan in my office, helped them to install LibreOffice
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10:00 cait-m__ waves from airport
10:02 mveron mveron waves back
10:03 cait-m__ :-)
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10:27 * mveron Has to give driving lessons to his daugther
10:38 paul_p hi cait-m__ from airport !
10:52 cait-m__ hi paul
10:52 my bag got searched first time ever
10:52 must be very suspicious cookies slef gave me
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11:39 clrh hello all
11:39 what is the pseudo for Robin?
11:40 (for my information)
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11:41 nengard it begins with an e ....
11:41 i know that's not helpful
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11:42 clrh nengard: better to have the begin that nothing ;)
11:42 mtj eyt... :)
11:42 clrh id_recto
11:42 oups
11:44 davidnind This may help http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
11:44 jcamins_away eythian. :)
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11:51 oleonard Hi #koha
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11:55 jcamins_away joubu++
11:55 clrh++
11:57 clrh :) jcamins_away feedbacks (and sign off) welcomes
11:59 jcamins_away clrh: I see one problem with it... it calls C4::Search::buildQuery.
12:00 Modules in the Koha namespace can't have any dependencies on C4.
12:00 (other than C4::Context)
12:00 clrh but it is for zebra part isn't it?
12:00 jcamins_away Yes.
12:00 clrh work done on ezbra part should be write, feel free to propose things
12:01 personnaly, I am not able to do it - I know zeno, juan began something
12:01 the patch show that it is possible and boxes must be filled
12:02 jcamins_away The solr part is also using C4::Biblio and C4::AuthoritiesMarc, I see.
12:02 Yep. Very exciting progress. :D
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12:02 Joubu hi
12:02 jcamins_away Hello.
12:02 clrh jcamins_away: I understand but if I must rewrite all Koha part to submit something...
12:02 jcamins_away You just missed me giving you Karma. :)
12:03 clrh jcamins_away: I called him because of the discussion :)
12:03 I pasted him above
12:04 jcamins_away :)
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12:05 jcamins Joubu: even though it's not perfect, I think the best thing to do is probably clean all the dependencies out of buildQuery, so we can get the solr code into Koha *now*.
12:05 I had looked, and I don't think there are actually that many external dependencies in buildQuery.
12:06 * jcamins is checking now to confirm.
12:06 clrh grep is your friend jcamins ?
12:06 jcamins clrh: no, with buildQuery I'll actually have to read through the code. :(
12:07 If you hear screaming, that's me. ;)
12:07 clrh ;)
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12:10 jcamins Yes, the only dependencies are local utility functions, and GetBranchName.
12:13 clrh ok
12:13 Joubu jcamins: unfortunately, there is not only the buildQuery function. The current opac-search.pl has a lot of dumpy dependencies (getRecords, searchResults)
12:18 jcamins Joubu: eventually all that will need to move, but in terms of the code in Koha::SearchEngine, it looks like buildQuery is the only one that has to be moved immediately.
12:20 Joubu jcamins: yes you are right, it is the only one (currently ! ;))
12:24 jcamins What does apply_all_roles do?
12:26 Joubu it apply all roles :)
12:27 it adds a role to an object
12:27 jcamins Joubu: I gathered it applies all roles, but where exactly do you define it?
12:28 Joubu jcamins: Where I define the role ?
12:28 jcamins No, the apply_all_roles routine.
12:29 Joubu it's a Moose routine
12:29 jcamins Ohhh!
12:29 Joubu jcamins: http://search.cpan.org/~doy/Mo[…]N_OBJECT_INSTANCE
12:29 jcamins Thanks.
12:29 That makes sense now. :)
12:29 Oooh!
12:30 * jcamins likes t::lib::Mocks::Context
12:30 Joubu :)
12:30 very usefull !
12:31 jcamins And the plan is that opac/search.pl will eventually go away, when Zebra and solr share an API?
12:34 Joubu opac/search.pl or opac/opac-search.pl :)
12:35 jcamins Joubu: right. It'd be kind of nice to just have search.pl.
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13:21 vkm how to send emails via koha
13:22 is there any systematic document on that i am using ubuntu
13:22 oleonard Koha sends emails in various situations by different means vkm. Are you asking about configuring Ubuntu to send email?
13:23 vkm yes config on ubuntu
13:23 oleonard vkm: If the question is "How do I set up Ubuntu to send email" then the answer is best found elsewhere since it's an Ubuntu configuration question.
13:24 vkm please let me know what is needed to install on ubuntu and how configure it
13:24 oleonard vkm: Is this the kind of thing you're looking for? https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/i[…]6/mail-setup.html Because it sounds like your question isn't about Koha per se
13:24 vkm but koha users also need to configure it to send auto email for transactions
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13:35 gmcharlt @quote random
13:35 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me" (added by jdavidb at 03:50 PM, July 31, 2009)
13:35 gmcharlt such a relief
13:39 oleonard Hi gmcharlt how's it going?
13:47 gmcharlt oleonard: not bad; how are you?
13:47 oleonard Fine. Final testing on this jquery datepicker patch at the moment
13:48 SJeffery Isn't there an IRC meeting coming up soon?
13:50 oleonard 13 June 2012 at 18:00 UTC+0 according to the wiki
13:50 Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.8.1, 3.6.5 and 3.4.8 Now Available | Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org/ | http://paste.koha-community.org | General IRC Meeting 13 June 2012 at 18:00 UTC+0
13:51 oleonard I'm glad you remembered SJeffery, I didn't.
13:51 SJeffery Yeah, I thought it was coming up but there is usually a mailing list announcement
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14:05 SJeffery Thanks oleonard :)
14:06 nengard the koha meeting today is while i'm doing a  webinar :(
14:14 marcelr Joubu: around?
14:19 oleonard Alright, Bug 8181 ready for testers with endurance.
14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8181 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace DynArch calendar widget with jQueryUI version
14:19 Barrc Can anyone think why there might be a limit on the number of items a bib can have? I have narrowed it down to bibs with somewhere between 852 and 955 items.....zebra goes a but nuts...
14:23 Joubu marcelr: yes
14:26 jcamins Barrc: you have to use rebuild_zebra.pl -b -x -r
14:26 (then -b -x -z)
14:26 marcelr Joubu: I just pasted a large comment in 7167; don't be shocked
14:27 hdl Barrc: yep. It goes nutts.
14:27 for what it is worth, there is some enhancement we build on rebuild_zebra.
14:28 Barrc: see that -l limit in this http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koh[…]4e1f119c6dccd2bdc
14:29 Joubu marcelr: wow :) Thank you very much !
14:29 marcelr Joubu: sending mail to dev list also
14:29 jcamins Barrc: the problem is that the binary MARC format has a limit to the length of the record.
14:29 marcelr it will hopefullu be not so much work
14:29 jcamins marcelr: not sure about the syspref.
14:29 marcelr why?
14:29 Joubu marcelr: I will have a look asap
14:30 marcelr dangerous?
14:30 jcamins Yup.
14:30 marcelr jcamins: will send a mail to dev, please reply too with your argument; thx
14:30 jcamins If the consensus on the caching parameters is that they're too dangerous for sysprefs (a consensus I do not agree with, incidentally), this definitely would be!
14:30 I will.
14:30 Barrc jcamins: Yeah, we've been using the -x but only hit this problem recently
14:31 jcamins I figured I'd tell you I disagreed before I responded that I disagreed. ;)
14:31 Barrc: ah. Weird.
14:32 Barrc hdl: whats the status of this? have you got it running in production? Looks like what I need!
14:32 jcamins Barrc: there were some improvements to rebuild_zebra.pl recently that should help.
14:33 Barrc jcamins: yeah, just looking at that now, this site is back on 3.4 with associated tools.....wonder if the improved rebuild script has any later dependencies?
14:34 jcamins Barrc: shouldn't, no.
14:34 Barrc sweet - I will grab it and give it go - thanks.
14:35 hdl Barrc: It is running in production. don't know why all the ppl donot have the same problem.
14:35 Barrc hdl: thanks...
14:36 hdl Barrc: i don't know whether the problem is coped now with new indexer.
14:39 jcamins marcelr: I responded.
14:40 paul_p: around?
14:41 marcelr jcamins: thx; your argument on normal mode makes sense
14:41 (not speaking about other valid things..) :-)
14:41 Barrc hdl: does this script just put a limit on items? That is, say the bib has 1500 items and the script it build with an item limit of 850, are the remaining items ignored?
14:42 hdl yap.
14:43 Barrc OK - looks like I've some bib splitting to do!
14:43 hdl Because in fact only the 30 first items are shown.
14:43 Barrc on the detail screen?
14:43 hdl Not on detail screen but in search screen.
14:44 jcamins hdl: didn't BibLibre have a patch that fixes the problem without truncating the items at 30?
14:44 hdl And getting 950 items on detail screen is also not really handy. We added some datatables on detail page for that.
14:44 jcamins I thought I signed off on one.
14:45 Barrc right, similar problem I suppose, (in that I get no hits on that screen - however, the items do show on the details screen - sometimes!).
14:45 hdl: No, its not ideal.....
14:46 hdl Barrc: or you could use zebrasrv with some magic parameter I have forgotten.
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14:46 hdl and use -x in order to index the whole record.
14:47 Barrc yeah, using -x already..... might try the limit to check it out anyway
14:48 jcamins Joubu: did you have a plan for how you wanted to handle SearchAuthorities vs. SimpleSearch in Koha::SearchEngine?
14:52 Joubu jcamins: I don't know if I understand your question. But to request Solr, if you want searching for authority or biblio, you just specify the recordtype like : recordtype:biblio or recordtype:authority :)
14:53 jcamins Joubu: they have completely different method signatures.
14:53 Joubu in opac/search.pl, if user enter "home", the search become: recordtype:biblio AND home
14:53 jcamins (which they then turn into queries that go to the same search engine)
14:55 You know, I think we should use the indexing configuration thing for Zebra, too, and stop using CCL.
14:55 (one day...)
14:56 clrh matts asking me what is the "database using for tests" - which one do you use you?
14:56 jenkins use wich one? sql used in installer ?
14:56 jcamins clrh: I think jenkins uses a database with all the sample data.
14:56 clrh where can I grab it?
14:56 ok sample data in installer/*
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14:57 jcamins Yup.
14:57 I think.
14:57 Joubu: any chance we could persuade you to add a little bit about Test::Mock in the unit tests page on the wiki?
15:00 Joubu jcamins: Yes, I add this on my todo list ;)
15:00 jcamins :)
15:00 Joubu jcamins: I don't know if I answered to your previous question
15:01 hdl jcamins: the SimpleSearch Joubu referenced in what he said is complete rewrite of SimpleSearch... And is used in our rewrite both for Authorities AND biblios.
15:01 jcamins Joubu: I figured you were trying to think of an answer.
15:02 hdl: so the plan is to change the method signature, and simply not use SearchAuthorities?
15:03 hdl No more SearchAuthorities.
15:03 is the plan.
15:03 and has been done in our dev/solr branch
15:03 jcamins Woohoo!
15:03 no_more_searchauthorities++
15:04 (though the new search routine should allow for unambiguous searches in the same way that SearchAuthorities did)
15:05 Joubu I'm going to try to catch my train.
15:05 ++
15:06 jcamins Good luck!
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15:33 reiveune bye
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15:34 jcamins Is anyone with a 3.8.1 installation around?
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16:41 jcamins chris_n: around?
16:44 chris_n jcamins: stuffing my face atm :-)
16:44 jcamins chris_n: ah, good idea.
16:44 chris_n however, I can type and eat at the same time
16:47 * jcamins was wondering if MFHD had scared you away from a datatables/jeditable MARC editor. ;)
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16:51 chris_n right now the schedule is what's holding me back
16:52 but that's an old tune
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16:55 jcamins chris_n: it is indeed.
16:56 * chris_n is trying to get a new xs module wrapped up
16:57 chris_n along with wearing a zillion hats which have little to do with coding :)
16:57 jcamins What's the new XS module for?
16:57 cait-m__ waves
16:58 * jcamins already asked, but also already forgot.
16:58 waves back.
16:59 SJeffery It sounds like it needs a more descriptive module name!
17:06 drojf hey cait-m__ where are you?
17:06 home?
17:06 wahanui well, home is fine
17:10 drojf meeting is in an hour, right?
17:13 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing,_13_June_2012
17:13 drojf: looks like it
17:13 wahanui rumour has it looks like it is a replicate of /usr/share/koha/misc
17:13 magnuse sure, wahanui :-)
17:13 wahanui magnuse: i'm not following you...
17:14 magnuse oh you're not, are you?
17:14 drojf :D
17:14 jcamins magnuse: are you doing an imitation of slef?
17:19 drojf wasn't there supposed to be a bid for kohacon 2013 in mexico?
17:19 jcamins Hey, wizzyrea, a couple of the other NEKLS-ans, and I were talking about client-side record display using AJAX. Retrieve the MARCXML using opac-export, then process the DOM using jQuery.
17:20 (or not via AJAX, with the MARCXML embedded directly into the page)
17:21 magnuse: thoughts?
17:34 oleonard-away jcamins: I've done something like that before
17:34 * oleonard tries to remember where and how
17:35 jcamins oleonard: how did it work? I'm using http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]map_the_publisher.27s_location but there's a lot more one could do.
17:36 chris_n jcamins: it provides a binding to the USPS intelligent mail barcode library
17:36 dpavlin if I'm not seriously mistaken next talk on YAPC::NA is about CHI http://ics.webcast.uwex.edu/me[…]f4a95b7372648711d http://act.yapcna.org/2012/talk/110
17:36 jcamins chris_n: ah, yes. Sorry, I think this is the third time I asked you.
17:36 Ooh!
17:36 oleonard jcamins: Oh yeah I remember, I used unapi
17:37 * jcamins will tell his spy at YAPC to attend.
17:37 jcamins His spy at YAPC is busy.
17:38 chris_n you mean I have to bow to bill in order to watch that stream?
17:38 it prompts to install Silverlight
17:38 jcamins Oh, it's online. And was an hour ago.
17:38 chris_n interesting that perl folks would be using non-open source streaming services
17:38 * jcamins will watch it himself, later.
17:39 * dpavlin dosn't have video -- Linux and silverlight are never good combination. Good for IRC meething, bad for CHI :-)
17:41 jcamins dpavlin: CHI is very cool.
17:41 * jcamins looks forward to having the opportunity to make Koha take more advantage of it.
17:42 SJeffery jcamins: Is there anything you are not working on?
17:44 jcamins SJeffery: uhhh...
17:44 I was going to say "authentication," but I just decided yesterday to do some poking at that.
17:44 * jcamins has decided not to use username/password for authenticating to his sandboxes.
17:44 jcamins SJeffery: ooh! But I'm not doing any work relating to patrons in Koha.
17:44 (other than authentication)
17:45 SJeffery Give it a week
17:45 I am confident in your ability to find something
17:45 dpavlin jcamins: so far I lerned that sessions should go into CGI, as well as TT cache :-)
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17:47 Brooke o/
17:52 magnuse jcamins: as long as you can be sure it works on all sorts of devices, down to mobile phones...
17:54 kyleh around? i owe you a reward for saving soo many kittehs!
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17:56 jcamins dpavlin: why would sessions go into TT?
17:56 dpavlin jcamins: sorry, I ment that both sessions and TT cache should go into CHI.
17:57 jcamins magnuse: well, this is actually the problem... random passwords are hard to remember and type into non-hardware keyboards.
17:58 * dpavlin ponders about replacing all our caching with CHI... might be good way to flush our at least part of API for our future data accessors :-)
17:58 jcamins dpavlin: see bug 8092.
17:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should use CHI caching framework
17:58 jcamins No.
17:58 Bug 8029?
17:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8029 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED INVALID, Allow ExtendedPatronAttributes to *not* be searched when enabled.
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17:58 jcamins No.
17:58 Bug 8090?
17:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8090 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , item links should have descriptive text
17:59 jcamins @query cache
17:59 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3686 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Hold slips sometimes don't print barcode
17:59 jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5217 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , INSTALL.ubuntu Packages/CPAN notes out of date for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid)
17:59 jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6172 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Zebra not indexed Unimarc-records
17:59 jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8148 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , ldap authentication should FAIL if ldap contains NEW password, and user types the PREVIOUS password
17:59 jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7177 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, dpavlin, ASSIGNED , memoize more function calls to speed up Koha
17:59 jcamins Ummm...
17:59 @query Koha::Cache
17:59 Brooke tick tock
17:59 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1918 enhancement, P3, ---, dpavlin, In Discussion , Minify JavaScript and CSS
17:59 jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8089 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Use Koha::Cache everywhere
17:59 jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, P3, ---, chrish, Pushed to Master , Caching for services
17:59 jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should use CHI caching framework
17:59 jcamins Bug 8089.
17:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8089 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Use Koha::Cache everywhere
17:59 jcamins (but don't use that patch, as I want to do a new one that's better)
17:59 dpavlin Yap, I noticed Koha::Cache landed in master, that's *WHY* I'm watching CHI talk :-)
18:00 Brooke @startmeeting
18:00 huginn Brooke: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
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18:01 Brooke #startmeeting
18:01 wahanui if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me
18:01 huginn Meeting started Wed Jun 13 18:01:30 2012 UTC.  The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
18:01 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
18:01 Brooke Hi and welcome to the Koha Community Meeting
18:02 please use #info to introduce yourselves
18:02 Topic for #koha is now Introductions
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18:02 mveron Hi everybody :-)
18:02 #info Marc Véron, marc veron ag, Allschwil, Switzerland
18:02 Brooke #topic Introductions
18:02 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
18:02 Topic for #koha is now Introductions
18:02 drojf1 #info Mirko Tietgen, Language centre @ HU Berlin, Germany
18:02 magnuse #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway
18:02 cait-m__ #info katrin fischer
18:02 jwagner #info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS
18:02 jcamins #info Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services, LLC
18:02 sekjal #info Ian Walls, 3.10 QA Manager
18:02 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA
18:03 cait-m__ on bus
18:03 * magnuse mentions in passing that Libriotech is 3 years old today - yay!
18:03 mglavica #info Marijana Glavica, FFZG, Croatia
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18:03 cait-m__ yay
18:03 drojf1 magnuse: congrats
18:03 mveron Greetings from Marc Balmer, he is travelling today and can not attend the meeting
18:03 dpavlin #info Dobrica Pavlinusic, FFZG, Croatia
18:04 cait-m__ lurking still travelling
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18:05 magnuse probably lots of people traveling today?
18:05 Brooke a yep
18:05 cait-m__ rangi is too but most people are home i think
18:06 Brooke #topic Roadmap to 3.4
18:06 Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.4
18:06 Brooke any comments here?
18:06 cait-m__ eol?
18:06 * oleonard would think so
18:07 Brooke we might want to hold off killing it with fire til next meeting since the last time I tried folks were like "noooooooooo my 3.4"
18:07 oleonard Agenda: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_June_2012#Agenda
18:08 jcamins Brooke: there is no one maintaining 3.4, so it is de facto end of life.
18:08 Brooke but I'm thinking warn the listserv
18:08 one lasssst tim
18:08 e
18:08 cait-m__ nods
18:08 dead
18:08 dort
18:08 Brooke #topic Roadmap to 3.6
18:08 Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.6
18:09 cait-m__ ,grrr sorry for bad typing
18:09 jcamins 3.6.6 should be released around June 23.
18:10 #info The 3.6.x-maint/testing branch contains all candidates for inclusion in 3.6.x. If any patches cause problems, they will not be included in a stable release.
18:10 #info Patches pushed to master on or before May 15 are eligible for inclusion in 3.6.6.
18:11 #info I expect to push those patches that will be in 3.6.6 to the 3.6.x branch over the weekend.
18:12 That's really it, I think.
18:12 Any questions?
18:12 Oh!
18:12 magnuse eythian has been working on getting 3.6.x a.k.a old-stable into the official repo?
18:12 jcamins #info 3.6.x packages are available at debian.koha-community.org/koha in the 'oldstable' distribution.
18:12 magnuse ah, thanks
18:12 cait-m__ can you consider 2 patches for acq?
18:12 tt fixes
18:13 jcamins cait-m__: provided they are pushed to master prior to 15 June and seem inoffensive, yes.
18:14 chris_n #info Chris Nighswonger, FBC
18:14 jcamins Any other questions?
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18:15 Brooke seeing none moving on
18:15 * chris_n notes that 3.4.x is defacto eol unless someone screams really loudly
18:15 Brooke #topic Roadmap to 3.8
18:15 Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.8
18:16 Brooke anyone have marching orders from Chris?
18:17 cait-m__ home now
18:18 Brooke #topic Roadmap to 3.10
18:18 Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.10
18:18 Brooke take it away Paul
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18:18 cait oh that feels better
18:19 * oleonard thinks we should start scheduling meetings around people's schedules
18:19 Brooke would be nice
18:19 jcamins 3.8.2 should be coming out on schedule, I think.
18:19 cait I think so too, haven't heard otherwise :)
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18:22 * chris_n drops a pin :)
18:22 oleonard So, uh....
18:23 cait next topic?
18:23 Brooke #topic KohaCon12
18:23 Topic for #koha is now KohaCon12
18:23 Brooke it was awesome from what I saw, yes?
18:23 oleonard I move that we adjourn and reschedule
18:23 Brooke I have stuff to lock down, so I'd rather not.
18:24 drojf kohacon was awesome indeed
18:24 cait not so fair making decisions with only a few people
18:24 perhaps a few days later?
18:24 but perhaps we are enough, missed the introductions
18:25 chris_n or at least defer new business until next meeting?
18:25 Brooke ok fine by me
18:25 when's the next meeting
18:25 I will say that this sucks for conference planning
18:26 and that I really wanted to lock that down last meeting
18:26 and now I get to wait another month with no real need to do so
18:26 oleonard What can we lock down?
18:26 magnuse the final date for bidding a schedule for voting?
18:26 s/a/and/
18:27 Brooke I just want to close the bids in two weeksish so we can have a proper vote on whoever puts in for it
18:27 we haven't even solidified the slate
18:27 drojf say bids allowed until end of month, would be fair enough?
18:28 oleonard What is the slate to which you refer Brooke?
18:28 cait and mail to the mailing list abou tit
18:28 maybe the blog too
18:28 Brooke http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon2013
18:28 #info Make sure you put your bid up at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon2013
18:29 rhcl #info rhcl=Rolling Hills Consolidated Library - sorry for late checkin
18:29 drojf dpavlin mglavica what's with croatia? you wrote to the ml a while ago
18:29 Brooke I know there was interest on list that never translated to the wiki, and I've been pulling teeth for a couple months about it
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18:29 mglavica yes, we wrote
18:29 but we would like to go somwhere else, also :)
18:30 drojf heh
18:30 dpavlin It would benefit us to visit one more KohaCon to get idea what it takes to make it happend.
18:30 Brooke ah okay
18:30 dpavlin and we still have a problem about two Europe Cons in the row :-)
18:30 mglavica well maybe we are lazy
18:30 Brooke so that's one accounted for
18:30 ASUSunDevil Hello all, I have an implementation of Koha 3.8 running, thank to the help I recieved here. I am running into an issue. In the Global System Preferenes for cataloging, I have the "DefaultClassificationSource" set to Library of Congress Classification. Also, I have set the "itemcall number" to "050ab" to use the LCC. However, when importing a record from the LCC in the z3950 search, on the import
18:30 page (tab 9), the "Source of Classification or Shelving Scheme" still defaults to dewey decimal and we have to manually change it and enter the LC information. Is this a bug or is there a trick to getting this to default to L of C?
18:30 oleonard ASUSunDevil: We're in the middle of a meeting
18:31 drojf ASUSunDevil: there is a meeting going on, maybe in half an hour?
18:31 ASUSunDevil sorry...will return
18:31 jcamins ASUSunDevil: there is a meeting going on right now. If you ask your question in about half an hour or forty-five minutes, people might be able to help.
18:31 Whoops.
18:31 Sorry.
18:31 I was third to say that.
18:31 Brooke shouldn't take a half hour
18:32 but I will say #help think about things related to bug squashing
18:32 so here's what I'm going to propose a la Owen
18:32 we shuffle all the stuff that's on the wiki til next meeting
18:32 and I send a final warning out to bid now or forever hold your peace to the listserv
18:32 anything else before we take off?
18:33 magnuse should we set dates for bidding and voting?
18:34 bidding has been open a loong time, hasnt it? we could close it in 2 or 4 weeks and having voting 1 week after that or something?
18:34 s/having/have/
18:34 oleonard I agree with the suggestion to end bidding at the end of the month
18:34 jcamins I'd say 2 weeks is plenty.
18:34 Brooke I was thinking 2 weeks to close the slate and 2 weeks to vote
18:34 jcamins Bidding was opened...
18:34 Brooke Marchish
18:35 jcamins February?
18:35 March.
18:35 Whatever.
18:35 wahanui whatever is most appropriate for the situation.
18:35 oleonard Brooke: Open vote in 2 weeks or hold voting open for 2 weeks?
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18:35 Brooke both
18:36 oleonard +1 from me on Brooke's proposal
18:36 magnuse +1
18:36 dpavlin +1
18:36 mveron +1
18:36 mglavica +1
18:36 cait 0
18:36 jcamins +1
18:36 dpavlin cait: ?
18:36 drojf +1
18:37 * cait would like the voting time to be a little bit longer but have no real problem with the proposal :)
18:37 * dpavlin makes sense, but it helps conference organizers to know whether they have to do it or not ASAP :-)
18:38 cait yep
18:38 so I think decision made?
18:38 Brooke looks like
18:38 magnuse yay!
18:38 oleonard Who set up the voting last time around?
18:38 drojf i think the time is alright. nag people on the mailing list twice during that time maybe
18:38 magnuse oleonard: nengard
18:38 wahanui hmmm... nengard is fast
18:38 Brooke #info the bid slate will finalise in 2 weeks. Voting will be open for 2 weeks.
18:38 nengard hello
18:39 Yes I will set up the vote
18:39 Brooke awesome, thanks :)
18:39 nengard++
18:39 nengard But I missed the beginning of the meeting so please point me to where the final choices are
18:39 Brooke drojf: are you willing to do the nagging 2ce?
18:39 they aren't yet
18:39 drojf Brooke: yes i try to remember
18:39 Brooke they'll be on the wiki in 2 weeks' time
18:40 oleonard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon2013
18:40 Brooke #action drojf or someone else will try and nag about Conference bidding 2 times in the coming weeks
18:40 nengard #info Nicole C. Engard, ByWater Solutions
18:40 Brooke there's a lot of good stuff on the agenda about bug signoffs, please look at it
18:42 how does 18 July sound for next meeting?
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18:43 sekjal +1
18:44 oleonard +1
18:44 chris_n +1
18:44 drojf +1
18:44 cait +1
18:44 Brooke it will be at everyone's favourite 2 UTC
18:45 drojf meh
18:45 Brooke #agreed next meeting is at 2 UTC 18 July
18:45 #endmeeting
18:45 Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.8.1, 3.6.5 and 3.4.8 Now Available | Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org/ | http://paste.koha-community.org | General IRC Meeting 13 June 2012 at 18:00 UTC+0
18:45 huginn Meeting ended Wed Jun 13 18:45:44 2012 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
18:45 Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community[…]-06-13-18.01.html
18:45 Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]2-06-13-18.01.txt
18:45 Log:            http://meetings.koha-community[…]13-18.01.log.html
18:47 * Oak waves
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18:51 mveron Good night everybody :-)
18:51 cait good night mveron :)
18:51 oh, too slow and window scrolling broken again
18:53 Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.8.1, 3.6.5 and 3.4.8 Now Available | Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org/ | http://paste.koha-community.org | General IRC Meeting 18 July 2012 at 02:00 UTC+0
18:56 jcamins 02:00 UTC.
18:56 Wait... shouldn't it be at 10:00 UTC?
18:56 (as oleonard wrote)
18:57 Brooke it's 2
18:57 goes 18
18:57 2
18:57 10
18:57 jcamins Okay, not 18, 10, 2.
18:57 Brooke http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Starting_Times
18:57 oleonard Did I write the wrong time in my message?
18:57 Brooke nope, 18, 10, 2 would make sense
18:57 therefore we must not do that
18:58 yep
18:59 cait I know it should be the midday one
18:59 because the one before that meeting was the eew too early one
19:00 if that makes any sense ;)
19:00 if it's 3 am again, we got it wrong
19:00 * cait wanders off to take a long hot shower
19:00 * jcamins is now confused.
19:00 cait at least one good thing about being finally home :)
19:00 jcamins Someone else can e-mail the list to clarify that I actually was wrong about the time.
19:00 drojf 10 looks right from the wiki?!
19:01 cait jcamins: perhaps check the meeting logs for the last meeting?
19:01 jcamins cait: now I'm too confused to figure it out. :P
19:01 drojf 2-18-10. we had 18 now
19:02 cait drojf: 2 is the ew one, right?
19:02 drojf yep
19:03 jcamins drojf: would you e-mail the list saying "Jared is mistaken, the meeting will be at 10:00 UTC+0"?
19:03 cait meaning the one that is too early in the morning for any working european
19:03 heh
19:03 drojf cait: 2 utc right now should be 0:00 here
19:03 cait let's confuse everyone :)
19:03 jcamins cait: I know! Let's announce the meeting is at every possible slot on that day!
19:04 oleonard 24-hour meeting, votes ever hour, day-end averages win.
19:04 Brooke heh
19:04 jcamins oleonard: yeah! That'd be great fun!
19:04 * magnuse wanders off
19:05 drojf i see
19:05 2 May 2012 at 02:00 UTC+0
19:05 13 June 2012 at 18:00 UTC+0
19:05 18 july 2012 at 10 UTC+0
19:05 Brooke I had a 17ish hour Fraternity meeting once
19:05 good times.
19:05 cait drojf++ :)
19:06 Oak me go now. later.
19:06 oleonard For whom is 2:00 UTC+0 a good meeting time?
19:07 drojf i wrote about 10 utc to the list now
19:07 please let's change it again ;)
19:08 2 utc is bad for all europe
19:08 probably good for us?
19:08 US, not us
19:08 jcamins drojf: bad for the US, too.
19:08 drojf oh
19:08 ok
19:08 then i dont know
19:08 jcamins I've had to rearrange my schedule to make a few of those.
19:09 (not that I ever make the 10 UTC meetings, of course)
19:09 davidnind See http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Starting_Times for some examples, good for New Zealand (3PM)!
19:10 cait and india maybe?
19:10 drojf depending on my mood, 2 utc (12 at night) is better than 10 utc (8 in the morning)
19:10 oleonard With all due respect to India, I don't believe they've been well-represented even in that time slot
19:11 chris_n logs?
19:11 wahanui logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
19:11 cait oleonard: I know
19:11 I was for killing tha tmeeting time...
19:11 always
19:11 * cait is mean
19:11 cait but there is never much attendance
19:12 chris_n confusion--
19:12 * chris_n won't be there :-)
19:14 * jcamins probably won't be there either way.
19:14 drojf they will postpone everything again because nobody is there
19:14 we should have a kohacon each month
19:14 and someone to pay for it
19:15 jcamins I move that people sign off on everything they can.
19:15 And encourage others to do the same.
19:15 * cait seconds drojf's suggestion
19:16 oleonard I move that kittens are cute, fudge is tasty, and Koha is great.
19:16 cait accepted
19:18 drojf i still calculate one hour back when looking at the time on my notebook. edinbugh feeling
19:20 * jcamins wonders why someone just did a blog post about install Koha on Ubuntu with the instructions to install Jaunty.
19:21 oleonard Where's that?
19:21 drojf really old ubuntu
19:22 they up the first letter for every release name, jaunty is "j", i think they are at "p" now
19:23 jcamins The instructions will work for 10.04 (Lucid) only.
19:23 Actually, I guess they'll work for later versions too, but you shouldn't use CPAN for 10.10 or later.
19:24 drojf oh i can't read. i thought oleonard asked "what's that" :/ still tired
19:24 jcamins *installing Koha
19:25 You know, I think maybe it's about time for me to call it a day.
19:25 Splitting headache, and I can't type. :(
19:27 drojf hm i dont get it. so meeting is at 2 utc now even though that was the time for last meeting?
19:28 we agreed on a day, nobody voted for the time, so why not use the one that would have its turn now?
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19:56 chris_n drojf: seems that 1000 UTC should be next in rotation
19:57 cait chris_n: no, drojf is right
19:57 the meeting before today was the early time, it's wrong to do that again
19:57 and it will basically kill another meeting with lack of attendance
19:58 chris_n cait: are we sure that 0200 is, indeed, next in the order of rotation?
19:58 was the 2 may meeting @ 0200?
19:59 cait drojf listed the last meeting times
19:59 chris_n if so, wouldn't that make the next @ 1000
19:59 cait from that I think next is 10 and I remember not being at the last one because of the evil time
19:59 chris_n right, I was saying that I think the next is 1000
19:59 not 0200
19:59 even though the vote went for 0200
20:00 so I was simply correcting based on the vote, not what I think myself :-)
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20:00 * chris_n will probably never be present for 0200 meetings anyway :-P
20:01 wajasu fyi, here is sed one-liner that grabs the desired XML parser and places it at the end if the file -> sed -i -n -e '/XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser/,/./!p' -e '/XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser/,/./H;$!d' -e '$x;p' /etc/perl/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini
20:02 cait chris_n: exactly my argument ;)
20:02 * chris_n concurs 100%
20:03 Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.8.1, 3.6.5 and 3.4.8 Now Available | Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org/ | http://paste.koha-community.org | General IRC Meeting 18 July 2012 at 10:00 UTC+0
20:03 chris_n that was easy :-)
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20:44 mbalmer good evening
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20:48 SJeffery What is the name for one of those rectangles you get with an invalid character (character that could not display)?
20:49 jeff that's the "I [] UNICODE" character.
20:49 actually, it's known as the "replacement character", and is often seen as the black diamond with a question mark, except on windows systems where it's the grey dashed box.
20:51 (either because windows does not support/usr the unicode replacement character, or because its representation of U+FFFD mimics an earlier/existing windows convention for 'undisplayable', I do not know.
20:51 )
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20:54 SJeffery What I am running into is that pasting text that contains that into the 520 field and then saving the record gives an immediate 500 error and causes the record not to save...it does not look like it is a reported bug as far as I can tell?
20:54 It looks similar to 2916 but I can't really tell?
20:55 mbalmer isn't 0xFD special character in marc reords?
20:56 SJeffery No clue...
20:58 mbalmer I dunno what Koha does underneath, but FD ia Marc record has a special meaning.  but I m not sure if that causes the prob.
20:59 jcamins SJeffery: do you know what the invalid character was supposed to be?
21:00 SJeffery It is something copied from an OCR's pdf...so it was originally a -, but what it OCR's as is unknown.
21:01 But even if Koha does not recognize the character it should not be putting out a 500 error
21:01 jcamins Yeah, I had a feeling it was an em dash.
21:02 SJeffery This is driving our analytics catalogers batty :)
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21:02 jcamins I'd report a new bug, and try to get the server logs from when that happened.
21:04 It is not the same as bug 2916.
21:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2916 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Invalid characters may be successfully entered ( or imported) in Koha bibs that cause fatal xml parser errors
21:06 jcamins A possible workaround may be copying the text into Microsoft Word, saving the Word file, and then copying out of Word.
21:06 I'm not sure that will work, but I think I'd give you even odds on it.
21:07 (OpenOffice/LibreOffice will probably not do it, because they don't mess with your text)
21:08 SJeffery Yeah, we have tried that and it does not work. Notepad does not either. I have yet to find a way to get around it, grr.
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21:09 jcamins SJeffery: darn. And here I thought that I was the only person who would have had the misfortune to learn that trick.
21:09 SJeffery: I'd file a bug.
21:11 wajasu if you are under linux you might use the   od -x -c OCRedfile to see what code it is and mention that in the bug.
21:11 SJeffery Yeah. I submitted it to our host so that we can get the server logs...they should post the bug with the logs.
21:12 Sadly, I am in a corporate environment with IE, which just makes it worse!
21:12 wajasu or attach the OCRedfile.
21:12 or pastebin it and reference it inthe bug
21:13 SJeffery I attached the pdf
21:15 wajasu but what the ocr software generates is important to know what the binary code being input is. and to recreate the bug.
21:16 SJeffery Yeah. I figured it was better to include the original pdf that we are copying from, that way I can't screw it up, hehe
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22:03 jcamins @later tell cait Something for you to test: bug 7943.
22:03 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
22:21 jcamins Does anyone have a preferred set of a dozen sample authority records?
22:25 Did I forget to include a test plan?
22:25 I did.
22:25 I forgot to include a test plan.
22:27 * jcamins writes a test plan.
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23:27 jcamins @later tell cait If you want, you can test 6720, too.
23:27 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
23:29 jcamins @later tell cait Since that won't be enough to keep you busy, I also recommend bug 8206.
23:29 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
23:31 jcamins @later tell cait Another nice authority-related patch for signoff: bug 8205.
23:31 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
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23:36 YoungPublicLibrarian Hello everyone, I need some help with the staff side card catalog. I want to search for new acquisitions from 05-01-2012 to current date. Is there a way to do so?
23:38 jcamins @later tell dpavlin If you could take a look at bug 8221, I'd be grateful. I have no idea how to track down the problem.
23:38 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
23:38 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: there is a report that will do something that like that.
23:38 reports library/
23:38 reports library?
23:38 wahanui reports library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library
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23:53 YoungPublicLibrarian Thank you Jcamins!!

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