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| 00:00 | eythian | I don't think the US does real pies, does it? |
| 00:00 | ibeardslee | probably more likely that one from over there would be thermonuclear |
| 00:01 | .. it was a bit funnier in my head | |
| 00:01 | jcamins | lol |
| 00:02 | No, it was an eggplant. | |
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| 02:00 | druthb | o/ |
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| 06:44 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 06:44 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Friedrichshafen DE, Friedrichshafen, Germany is 15.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on May 21, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:45 | francharb | good morning |
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| 06:46 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:46 | wahanui | privet, reiveune |
| 06:49 | cait | hi francharb and reiveune :) |
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| 06:55 | alex_a | bonjour koha |
| 06:59 | julian_m | hi all |
| 07:00 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
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| 07:01 | gaetan_B | hello ! |
| 07:02 | magnuse | bonjour gaetan_B |
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| 07:08 | asaurat | hi |
| 07:08 | wahanui | hello, asaurat |
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| 07:15 | samuel | hi everybody :-) |
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| 07:26 | kmkale | Hi all I am conducting a Koha workshop in Symbiosis university at Pune India. |
| 07:26 | All participants are watching this on a screen and want to say Hi tp the Koha Community | |
| 07:26 | :) | |
| 07:26 | HI from Symbiosis | |
| 07:27 | magnuse | hiya Symbiosis |
| 07:28 | greetings from norway! | |
| 07:28 | rangi | hi from new zealand |
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| 07:31 | kmkale | hi rangi |
| 07:31 | hi magnuse | |
| 07:31 | how r things? | |
| 07:33 | magnuse | good! the sun is shining! |
| 07:33 | @wunder boo | |
| 07:33 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on May 21, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:34 | magnuse | @wunder pune, india |
| 07:34 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Poona, India is 36.0°C (11:30 AM IST on May 21, 2012). Conditions: . Humidity: 11%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.69 in 1005 hPa. |
| 07:39 | kmkale | bye all |
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| 07:45 | kmkale11 | happy birthday chris :) |
| 07:46 | magnuse | hey, happy birthday rangi! w00t! |
| 07:46 | mib_bhihwn | hello i am yogesh nashik |
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| 08:27 | magnuse | 1 minute of silence for MARC at ELAG2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1EL76yfeVs |
| 08:28 | rangi | heh |
| 08:29 | magnuse | ;-) |
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| 08:48 | hdl | magnuse: are you at ELAG ? |
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| 08:55 | magnuse | hdl: sadly not |
| 08:57 | no more travelling until after the son and heir is born... | |
| 08:57 | kf | son and heir? :) |
| 08:57 | magnuse | yeah? |
| 08:59 | kf | :) |
| 09:04 | eythian_ | Someone needs to have the empire passed on to them. |
| 09:04 | kf | ? |
| 09:04 | hi eythian | |
| 09:04 | eythian_ | that's the purpose of an heir |
| 09:04 | hello | |
| 09:04 | * eythian_ | hates writing presentation slides |
| 09:05 | eythian_ | Don't know why I keep volunteering for it |
| 09:05 | magnuse | eythian: a masochistic streak? ;-) |
| 09:05 | eythian_ | It's my only explanation too |
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| 09:05 | magnuse | eythian: try doing your presentation without slides? |
| 09:06 | eythian_ | Hmm, I'd forget where I was. |
| 09:06 | "What? Am I in tokyo?!" | |
| 09:06 | it's very confusing | |
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| 09:10 | magnuse | eythian_: heh! going to tokyo? |
| 09:10 | eythian_ | No! That's why it's so confusing! |
| 09:13 | magnuse | ah, i see (not) |
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| 09:17 | Oak | cait-m!! |
| 09:17 | wahanui | cait-m is on a train :-) |
| 09:21 | Oak | rangi around? |
| 09:22 | magnuse | |
| 09:22 | magnuse | Oak |
| 09:22 | eythian_ | My bullet points are the Koha logo, that must be good for a presentation :) |
| 09:22 | Oak | my MLIS project Koha library became publicly accessible \o/ |
| 09:23 | http://koha-library.uaar.edu.pk/ | |
| 09:23 | magnuse will you have a look please? | |
| 09:24 | eythian_ | Oak: that looks pretty good (though I'd make the "search" button look like the cart/list buttons) |
| 09:24 | I like the search bar gradient | |
| 09:24 | Oak | hmmm |
| 09:24 | that would look nicer | |
| 09:24 | which one, green one or blue one? | |
| 09:25 | :) yay. cool. that means so much to me. | |
| 09:25 | eythian_ | Doesn't matter, more that it's a different style so it looks a bit out of place |
| 09:25 | magnuse | yeah, that looks good! |
| 09:25 | Oak | hmm. okay got it. |
| 09:25 | thank you thank you! | |
| 09:26 | eythian_ | Oh, our libraries are liking the "recent comments" stuff, if you want people to comment, it may be good to turn that on. |
| 09:26 | magnuse | did you increase the general font size a little bit? |
| 09:26 | Oak | yup magnuse |
| 09:26 | eythian, hmmm. let me do that now | |
| 09:27 | magnuse | yay, i like it - i think the default can get a little bit small |
| 09:28 | Oak | Recent Comments included... |
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| 09:30 | eythian_ | cool |
| 09:31 | Oak: your 650 subject entries should be split up, e.g. on this record: http://koha-library.uaar.edu.p[…]pl?biblionumber=2 | |
| 09:31 | that way it's two subjects, not one that's both of them | |
| 09:32 | Oak | hmm. how do we do that? |
| 09:32 | by putting a -- between them? | |
| 09:33 | or duplicating that field? | |
| 09:33 | eythian_ | no, by having a separate 650 entry for each subject. |
| 09:33 | yeah that :) | |
| 09:33 | Oak | ah |
| 09:33 | cool, got it. that makes sense. | |
| 09:33 | let me fix that "Search" button now... next is splitting the 650. | |
| 09:39 | * eythian_ | notes that unity's alt-tab has "show desktop" as one of it's entries. That explains by all my windows vanished earlier. |
| 09:50 | Oak | eythian, now the Search button's color is changed... should I get rid of the border and shadow? adding border to the Card button may be tricky... |
| 09:51 | eythian_ | Yeah, I'd say make them look the same, whichever way you go with that is up to you :) |
| 09:52 | Oak | :) okay. |
| 09:55 | eythian, done :) | |
| 09:56 | eythian_ | that looks better, now the buttons look similar |
| 09:56 | Oak | yup. Thanks to you. |
| 09:57 | eythian_ | I probably would have made the search button blue, but I think green works better actually. |
| 09:57 | It stands out nicely | |
| 09:57 | Oak | yup :) |
| 09:57 | * eythian_ | is not a designer |
| 10:00 | Oak | eythian, made change to my MARC framework, and fixed this record: http://koha-library.uaar.edu.p[…]pl?biblionumber=2 |
| 10:00 | now will fix other records... when I'm home. | |
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| 10:04 | eythian_ | Oak: I think it's better to create new 650 fields rather than new 650$a |
| 10:04 | Oak | hmm. let me see how to do that. |
| 10:04 | eythian_ | Repeating $a means that it doesn't really count, it's just informational (according to that record, anyway) |
| 10:05 | Oak | i see. |
| 10:05 | eythian_ | if you have two 650s, it becomes two different links |
| 10:07 | Oak | ooh that was easy. done :) http://koha-library.uaar.edu.p[…]pl?biblionumber=2 |
| 10:07 | and good tip... about two different links... yes makes perfect sense. Thank you! | |
| 10:11 | eythian_ | np |
| 10:12 | Oak | now me go and take my laptop to management sciences library... be back in a bit. |
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| 10:56 | * kf | waves |
| 11:06 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 12:29 | zioha | oak |
| 12:30 | Oak | zioha |
| 12:30 | :) | |
| 12:30 | zioha | i have a question for you |
| 12:30 | Oak | Internet is not working here properly... I may disappear |
| 12:30 | zioha | it's about web installer |
| 12:30 | Oak | yes sure |
| 12:30 | zioha | yes |
| 12:30 | it is not working | |
| 12:31 | Oak | it still says "It Works"? |
| 12:31 | zioha | i have typed "localhost:8080" but web installer is not showing anything |
| 12:31 | yes | |
| 12:31 | it says "it works" | |
| 12:31 | only | |
| 12:32 | Oak | magnuse around? |
| 12:32 | kf | Oak++ |
| 12:32 | magnuse | somewhat :-) |
| 12:32 | Oak | :) how do we run the web installer ? |
| 12:33 | magnuse | sounds like zioha needs to get rid of the default site |
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| 12:33 | magnuse | "sudo a2dissite default" then "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload" |
| 12:33 | Oak | a2dissite default |
| 12:34 | yup | |
| 12:34 | zioha, try what magnuse said. | |
| 12:34 | zioha | ok |
| 12:34 | thanks | |
| 12:35 | Oak | let us know |
| 12:35 | my ping reply is 28 seconds :( | |
| 12:36 | jcamins_away | Oak: 650$a is not repeatedable. |
| 12:36 | Oak | so i should make it not-repeatable like it was by default? |
| 12:37 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 12:38 | Oak | done :) Thank you! |
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| 12:42 | kf | hi jcamins :) |
| 12:42 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 12:42 | wahanui | morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
| 12:42 | zioha | Oak it show message "site default already disabled" |
| 12:42 | when i type in browser "localhost" | |
| 12:43 | "system maintenance" | |
| 12:44 | the koha online catalog is offline .... site administrator | |
| 12:44 | Oak | when I showed the OPAC to my boss, he said it looks more about Koha and less about the library itself... and pointed out many things that needs to be done in the OPAC... |
| 12:44 | and when you type localhost:8080 what does it show? | |
| 12:45 | zioha | 1 minute |
| 12:46 | unable to connect | |
| 12:46 | jcamins | zioha: you need to tell Apache to listen on port 8080. |
| 12:46 | Open up /etc/apache2/ports.conf | |
| 12:46 | Add the line "Listen 8080" | |
| 12:46 | Oak | and add Listen 8080 |
| 12:47 | :) | |
| 12:47 | jcamins | Then restart Apache. |
| 12:47 | zioha | thanks jcamins and Oak |
| 12:48 | Oak | does it work now? |
| 12:49 | zioha | yes |
| 12:49 | it works | |
| 12:49 | Oak | \o/ |
| 12:49 | zioha | lol |
| 12:49 | Oak | :) dinner confirmed. |
| 12:49 | zioha | thanks |
| 12:49 | oooooKay | |
| 12:50 | now i am going to my take class | |
| 12:50 | Oak | okay. later. |
| 12:50 | zioha | i shall be back at 10:00 PM |
| 12:51 | Oak | okay good. |
| 12:51 | zioha | okay by |
| 12:51 | Oak | Allah hafiz. |
| 12:51 | zioha | Allah Hafiz |
| 12:57 | Oak | jcamins, the fields that are set as not repeatable by default in Koha are they *actually* not repeatable as a rule? |
| 12:58 | jcamins | Generally. |
| 12:58 | chris_n | g'morning |
| 12:58 | jcamins | There are exceptions, where the standards changed, or where the developer made a mistake, but generally speaking, what is in the default framework is accurate. |
| 12:58 | Good morning. | |
| 12:58 | Oak | hmm. |
| 12:59 | Good Morning chris_n | |
| 13:00 | jcamins, what about 245$c? Author name... | |
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| 13:00 | jcamins | Oak: not repeatable. |
| 13:01 | Oak | but when a book has multiple authors where do we put them? |
| 13:01 | jcamins | In 245$c. |
| 13:01 | In 245$c you transcribe *exactly* what it says on the title page. | |
| 13:01 | You then use 100 and 700 fields for authority-controlled forms. | |
| 13:01 | You should read an introduction to AACR2. | |
| 13:02 | Oak | okay got it. will do that now... |
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| 13:02 | Oak | thank you! |
| 13:02 | jcamins | Also, you should read this: http://www.loc.gov/marc/umb/ |
| 13:02 | libsysguy | is 3.8.1 supposed to release this week? |
| 13:02 | jcamins | Think so. |
| 13:03 | 3.6.5 will be coming out Thursdayish. | |
| 13:03 | libsysguy | sweet! |
| 13:04 | Oak | jcamins++ |
| 13:04 | kf | jcamins++ |
| 13:09 | Oak | "When more than 3 authors have the same function, give only the first name followed by [et al.]" |
| 13:10 | and when there are three authors or two authors? | |
| 13:10 | hmm... let me dig more | |
| 13:10 | jcamins | Oak: you just transcribe. |
| 13:11 | Oak | hmm. |
| 13:11 | kf | Oak: you use 245$c for the authors as listed on the book and put the nice names in 1xx 7xx fields |
| 13:13 | Oak | i went and fetch me a book. should i write what's on the title page? |
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| 13:21 | * chris_n | digs out of the inbox :-P |
| 13:22 | jcamins | Oak: yes. |
| 13:22 | Oak | okay :) |
| 13:23 | Business Statistics: [new line] A First Course [new line] Third Edition [new line] David M. Levine [new line] Timothy C. Krehbiel [new line] Mark L. Berenson | |
| 13:24 | jcamins | =245 10$aBusines statistics :$ba first course /$cDavid M. Levine, Timothy C. Krehbiel, Mark L. Berenson |
| 13:24 | =250 ##$aThird edition | |
| 13:25 | Oak | thank you jcamins :) me on phone hang on |
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| 13:29 | chris_n | paul_p: what needs to be done to get bug 7977 un-stuck from QA? |
| 13:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7977 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Signed Off , Add a "Quote-of-the-day" feature to the OPAC homepage |
| 13:29 | chris_n | hi oleonard |
| 13:29 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:30 | paul_p | hello #koha |
| 13:31 | chris_n = to un-stuck bug 7977, the best option is to bug the QA team, there are 40 bugs waiting for QA. I had hard times recently, things should be better next week (and this week I should be able to dedicate at least one day to QA/push) | |
| 13:32 | chris_n = but i'm not alone in the QA team, so you can also bug mason, jonathan, ian and marcel ;-) | |
| 13:32 | chris_n | paul_p: maybe an email alias for the QA team would be nice :-) |
| 13:32 | ie | |
| 13:32 | paul_p | chris_n definetly yes ! |
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| 13:32 | chris_n | qak-c.org |
| 13:33 | paul_p: how many QA members are required to QA before a bug is considered passing QA? | |
| 13:33 | paul_p | chris_n = just one ! |
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| 13:34 | chris_n | so jonathan says "I think these patchs can be passed QA." |
| 13:34 | is that enough | |
| 13:34 | paul_p | chris_n, yes, I don't know why he hasn't set the status |
| 13:36 | * chris_n | looks around for jonathan |
| 13:36 | * jcamins | sees someone who works in the same office as Jonathan. ;) |
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| 13:39 | chris_n | paul_p: I posted a comment requesting the status be set to accurately reflect the current status of the bug; I'd be grateful if you could pass that along as well |
| 13:40 | if there are further questions, perhaps setting the status to "In Discussion" would be good and then starting that discussion | |
| 13:40 | paul_p | chris_n ok, will check/do |
| 13:40 | chris_n | tnx |
| 13:40 | Oak | jcamins, thank you thank you! |
| 13:40 | paul_p | jcamins = jonathan work 3 days a week from his home, and 2 days in BibLibre office (thu-fri), so he's not here today ;-) |
| 13:40 | Oak | understood. |
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| 13:40 | * chris_n | wonders if "bug" includes all possible metaphorical implications of the term |
| 13:45 | Oak | should I hide "MARC View" from the OPAC? |
| 13:45 | jcamins | Oak: I don't see why. |
| 13:46 | * jcamins | cheers |
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| 13:46 | jcamins | The heading flipper worked! |
| 13:46 | Oak | heading flipper \o/ |
| 13:46 | jcamins++ | |
| 13:46 | Joubu | Hi all |
| 13:46 | libsysguy | *fist pump* |
| 13:47 | chris_n | Joubu: hi |
| 13:47 | jcamins | Now to use the super-awesome Koha::Cache... |
| 13:47 | Oak | jcamins, I jsut saw cait's https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/ and they don't show it. |
| 13:47 | so i asked... anyway. never mind. | |
| 13:47 | chris_n | Joubu: could you update 7977 status please :-) |
| 13:47 | jcamins | Oak: it depends on your users. |
| 13:47 | Oak | cool. okay. |
| 13:49 | Joubu | chris_n: I don't passed QA this patch. I think a second "passed qa" is better. |
| 13:49 | it is a big patch :) | |
| 13:51 | oleonard | rangi++ # for lots of signoffs during my weekend |
| 13:52 | kf | yep rangi++ |
| 13:52 | * kf | wishes virtualbox wold start cooperatiing |
| 13:52 | * jcamins | too. |
| 13:52 | * libsysguy | uses parallels |
| 13:52 | Oak | rangi++ |
| 13:52 | libsysguy | but I think its mac only :-/ |
| 13:52 | Oak | oleonard++ |
| 13:53 | anjoze | Hi everybody. |
| 13:54 | I'm wondering if some one could help me with Zebra Unimarc configurations | |
| 13:56 | My problem is the displayed results... they are not in the same correct order :( | |
| 13:58 | jcamins | libsysguy: VirtualBox actually works really well on Macs. |
| 14:00 | libsysguy | well I had it installed but the seamless mode in parallels was so nice |
| 14:03 | kf | there is a seamless mode for virtualbox too |
| 14:03 | although currently it's not working on my computer, only for my coworker | |
| 14:04 | Joubu | oleonard: the patch you proposed (Bug 7500) does not apply (have you rebased on current master ?). And it seems you forgot to add social-sprite.png |
| 14:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading |
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| 14:09 | chris_n | Joubu: thanks |
| 14:13 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 14:14 | * magnuse | waves back |
| 14:14 | chris_n | heya wizzyrea |
| 14:14 | wahanui | I LIKE SCIENCE |
| 14:15 | chris_n | wahanui: can't you say anything else about wizzyrea? |
| 14:15 | wahanui | chris_n: i don't know |
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 14:17 | oleonard | Sorry Joubu I was away from my desk. You're right about the image being missing. |
| 14:17 | Joubu: But the new patch doesn't even apply? | |
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| 14:20 | jcamins | Bug 8092. |
| 14:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should use CHI caching framework |
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| 14:21 | jcamins | Good morning, schuster. |
| 14:22 | oleonard | Weird, git bz seems to be leaving out the image file when it attaches the patch... |
| 14:23 | jcamins | oleonard: did you forget git add? |
| 14:23 | oleonard | Nope |
| 14:24 | jcamins | oleonard: well, I'm out of ideas. |
| 14:25 | magnuse | isn't the image supposed to be in the patch, in some kind of encoding? |
| 14:25 | schuster | Heyo... |
| 14:25 | * jcamins | looks around for members of the QA team. |
| 14:26 | jcamins | Bug 8092 could do with some QAing. |
| 14:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should use CHI caching framework |
| 14:26 | jcamins | It's a pretty cool performance improvement. |
| 14:26 | oleonard | Joubu: I have tried again. Thanks for your patience. |
| 14:26 | jcamins | schuster: I think you'd been asking about heading flipping. You'll be glad to know that a heading flipper script is in process. |
| 14:28 | chris_n | it seems to me that the QA member passing a given patch should sign off on it |
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| 14:29 | Joubu | oleonard: Yes, but it failed. However julian_m can apply it... |
| 14:29 | I don't know why | |
| 14:29 | * chris_n | notes that that does not seem to be the pattern |
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| 14:32 | oleonard | What is the "blib" directory and where did it come from? |
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| 14:32 | jcamins | oleonard: it's from installation. |
| 14:32 | It's created by make. | |
| 14:33 | make install copies files from there to where they belong. | |
| 14:33 | oleonard | So safe to delete after installation? |
| 14:33 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 14:49 | libsysguy | oleonard how many of the forms in koha are done with ajax? |
| 14:49 | i mean a rough estimate or percentage | |
| 14:49 | oleonard | Not many |
| 14:49 | jcamins | clrh: around? |
| 14:49 | libsysguy | oleonard is that something that we were thinking about moving toward? |
| 14:49 | clrh | yep jcamins |
| 14:50 | a bit busy but here | |
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| 14:50 | jcamins | clrh: your solr demo has a really cool feature with subject tracings, where you click the tracing and it lets you choose which terms to search for. |
| 14:50 | oleonard | libsysguy: I suppose the answer is yes, but that's a very broad question given the very different kinds of uses covered by "done with ajax" |
| 14:51 | clrh | jcamins: you are talking about demo of "biblibre solr version" ? |
| 14:51 | libsysguy | heh true story oleonard...I suppose just form submission in general, adding, deleting, etc |
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| 14:52 | oleonard | libsysguy: It's all on a case by case basis. |
| 14:52 | libsysguy: If you see one you want to do, do it. No one is going through systematically | |
| 14:52 | libsysguy | ok thanks oleonard |
| 14:53 | oleonard | Why do you ask libsysguy? |
| 14:53 | jcamins | clrh: do you know if the code for that is in a branch somewhere? |
| 14:53 | Yes. | |
| 14:53 | clrh: there may actually be a bug in Bugzilla for it, but I can't seem to find it right now. | |
| 14:53 | clrh | ok I see it is a feature sponsored by a customer |
| 14:53 | libsysguy | more of a curious poke oleonard...I didn't really have anything in mind |
| 14:53 | clrh | I'll try to find you the reference ;) |
| 14:53 | jcamins | Thank you. |
| 14:54 | There was talk about integrating it into 3.6, but there wasn't time. | |
| 14:55 | clrh | it should be here: https://docs.google.com/a/bibl[…]UmxpRnRVUUE#gid=0 and if not, I'll add it |
| 14:57 | * oleonard | is reaching bribing stage on Bug 4048 |
| 14:58 | jcamins | Bug 4048 |
| 14:58 | * oleonard | shakes huginn awake |
| 14:58 | jcamins | oleonard: didn't I sign off on that? |
| 14:59 | oleonard | jcamins: You did, but then there was an objection to that version of the patch |
| 14:59 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 14:59 | I will try to sign off when I get a chance. | |
| 14:59 | oleonard | I resubmitted and julian_m submitted a couple of follow-ups |
| 14:59 | julian_m++ | |
| 15:01 | jcamins | clrh: I just found the bug in Bugzilla. I just did a search in my e-mail and was able to find it. :) Bug 5888. |
| 15:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5888 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , opac-detail subject/author links improvements |
| 15:02 | clrh | great jcamins I found internal reference |
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| 15:04 | clrh | ok jcamins thanks, I told Julian to look at it again |
| 15:04 | and I add it in google doc | |
| 15:05 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:20 | jcamins | Cache statistics on the heading flipper for 1000 bibs: 536 hits/3246 misses |
| 15:22 | * jcamins | runs it on 10k bibs. |
| 15:37 | libsysguy | does anyone know where a sample koha db is? |
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| 15:38 | jcamins | sample data? |
| 15:38 | wahanui: ? | |
| 15:38 | wahanui | jcamins: i don't know |
| 15:40 | jcamins | sample data is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_sample_MARC_data |
| 15:40 | libsysguy: see the last link. | |
| 15:40 | Nice! Cache statistics (hit/miss): 15769/27352 | |
| 15:41 | That was on 10k bibs. | |
| 15:42 | libsysguy | gracias jcamins |
| 15:42 | jcamins | You know what could benefit from caching? serialized authority, and even bib records. |
| 15:43 | *bib, | |
| 15:44 | Reading MARCXML files is *slow*. | |
| 15:45 | In the 16 minute run, more than 2 minutes were devoted to parsing XML. | |
| 15:47 | More than ten minutes were devoted to searching, of course. | |
| 15:53 | gmcharlt: my reading of the POD for C4::Matcher is that it already would support match points for authorities. Does that match your recollection? | |
| 15:54 | gmcharlt | jcamins: yes, with two exceptions |
| 15:54 | first is a couple minor bits that refer only to biblio database tables | |
| 15:55 | second would likely be the need for some additional work to create NACO-normalized headings for matching | |
| 15:56 | but other than that, it's essentially nearly ready to handle authorities | |
| 15:56 | jcamins | Hm. If I create C4::Heading::new_from_auth_field() I should be able to use that in C4::Matcher. |
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| 16:05 | jcamins | @quote search typo |
| 16:05 | huginn | jcamins: 2 found: #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} -..." and #82: "<pianohack> nengard: If you were using a..." |
| 16:05 | jcamins | @quote get 135 |
| 16:05 | huginn | jcamins: Quote #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} - without the typo" (added by cait at 07:30 PM, May 20, 2011) |
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| 16:11 | clrh | bye |
| 16:27 | paul_p | chris_n wow ... bug 7977 is a huge patch to QA ! I understand why jonathan suggested another QA. |
| 16:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7977 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Signed Off , Add a "Quote-of-the-day" feature to the OPAC homepage |
| 16:28 | paul_p | chris_n = is there something urgent with this patch ? (more than a bugfix, or an old-timer ENH ?) |
| 16:29 | chris_n | paul_p: it is hard to keep rebased (to echo a very common refrain) |
| 16:29 | I have no plans to keep it rebased beyond the next month | |
| 16:30 | jcamins | It touches very little in the way of core functionality, so it's pretty safe. |
| 16:30 | chris_n | ^^ |
| 16:31 | paul_p: it is really very simple | |
| 16:31 | jcamins | In fact, it touches no core functionality at all. |
| 16:31 | chris_n | and takes very little time to QA |
| 16:31 | I have addressed all of jonathan's concerns as well as oleonards | |
| 16:31 | and jacamins for that matter as well | |
| 16:32 | jcamins | jcamins', too. :P |
| 16:32 | chris_n | heh |
| 16:32 | paul_p | chris_n = there are 40 patches waiting for QA, many/most of them having a good reason to be applied. I'll take care of it ASAP, but I hope other QA members will do first ! (thanks for your email to them) |
| 16:32 | chris_n | sorry... syntax |
| 16:33 | paul_p: thanks | |
| 16:35 | gaetan_B1 | bye ! |
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| 16:58 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7704 -Fix bug that prevent items to be returned to home branch, when independentb... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d74198ade735dc620> / Bug 8106: DataTables integration in ACQ: addorderiso2709.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]438f926a8d94e9621> / Bug 7604 - Link on basket group name for closed basket group |
| 17:01 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #730 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 17:04 | cait | bug 7804 |
| 17:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7804 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Add Koha Plugin System |
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| 17:15 | jcamins | cait: I commented on that one so that my concerns are recorded somewhere. |
| 17:15 | cait | ah, yes |
| 17:16 | I think this is a difficult one ot get right | |
| 17:16 | jcamins | Agreed. |
| 17:16 | cait | security being the biggest concern |
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| 17:18 | jcamins | Yeah. I outlined what I thought would be necessary to make a plugin system sufficiently secure to be a candidate for inclusion. |
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| 17:19 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 17:19 | cait | I read it - makes sense to me |
| 17:20 | perhaps we could get semarie to comment too? | |
| 17:20 | and did I get the nick right? hm. | |
| 17:20 | Oak | Happy Birthday rangi :o) |
| 17:20 | jcamins | I think you did, yes. |
| 17:30 | Oak | guys, if someone does apt-get install koha-common he/she will get 3.8 installed. what if we want to install 3.6.4 for some reason using Debian packages? how will that be done? |
| 17:30 | jcamins | Oak: at the moment, it can't be. eythian and I will be setting it up so that there will be an oldstable option which will get 3.6.5. |
| 17:30 | Oak | Guten abend cait |
| 17:31 | cait | hi Oak :) |
| 17:31 | Oak | cool. |
| 17:31 | thanks! | |
| 17:31 | how was your day cait ? | |
| 17:33 | cait | don't ask ;) |
| 17:33 | Oak | understood. |
| 17:34 | so tell me what happened? | |
| 17:34 | :) never mind | |
| 17:34 | kidding | |
| 17:35 | me go dinner time. bbl. | |
| 17:40 | jcamins | gmcharlt: do you know of any reason I couldn't change use C4::Search into require C4::Search? |
| 17:40 | (and explicitly scope the calls into C4::Search) | |
| 17:40 | Change it in C4::Matcher. | |
| 17:40 | wahanui | jcamins: that doesn't look right |
| 17:40 | jcamins | Sorry, it probably helps when I provide context. |
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| 17:44 | gmcharlt | jcamins: offhand, I can't think of any reason not to |
| 17:45 | jcamins | gmcharlt: thanks. |
| 17:45 | nengard | is there a working 3.8.1 release notes doc? Some way to see the bugs pushed - other than the git log? |
| 17:51 | jcamins | nengard: not to my knowledge. |
| 17:51 | nengard | k |
| 17:52 | rangi | yep there is, check the branch |
| 17:52 | jcamins | Oh, apparently there is. |
| 17:55 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #730: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/730/ |
| 17:55 | * julian.maurice: Bug 7175: orderreceive.pl cosmetic changes | |
| 17:55 | * julian.maurice: Bug 7175: Allow to choose which items to receive | |
| 17:55 | * kyle: Bug 8077 - overdues with fines won't run | |
| 17:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7175 enhancement, P2, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Improve order receiving page |
| 17:55 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7604 - Link on basket group name for closed basket groups is broken |
| 17:55 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 8106: DataTables integration in ACQ: addorderiso2709.tt | |
| 17:55 | * meenakshi.r: Bug 7704 -Fix bug that prevent items to be returned to home branch, when independentbranches and canreservefromotherbranch sysprefs are both turned on. | |
| 17:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8077 critical, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , overdues with fines won't run |
| 17:55 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7604 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Link on basket group name for closed basket groups is broken | |
| 17:55 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8106 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , DataTables in Acquisision module: addorderiso2709.tt | |
| 17:55 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7704 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, meenakshi.r, Pushed to Master , Independent Branches sys pref change to let librarians choose which things to share | |
| 17:58 | nengard | jcamins: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2390843703af14de9 |
| 17:59 | jcamins | nengard: nifty. I guess I should be putting the 3.6.5 ones up. |
| 17:59 | Later. | |
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| 18:15 | bag | @wunder 93109 |
| 18:15 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.5°C (11:15 AM PDT on May 21, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:19 | rangi | right we just need the .po files and 3.8.1 is ready to go |
| 18:19 | Oak | everyone++ |
| 18:26 | chris_n | rangi++ |
| 18:28 | * chris_n | spent a half hour this morning troubleshooting why circulation would not only to find that having ceilingDueDate set to an historic date causes silent failures |
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| 18:28 | chris_n | silent_failures-- |
| 18:31 | rangi | silent_failuers-- |
| 18:31 | heh | |
| 18:31 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #19 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 18:32 | rangi | typos-- |
| 18:32 | chris_n | lol |
| 18:32 | but then, its monday | |
| 18:37 | libsysguy | for the record, calendars happen to really complex beasts |
| 18:38 | rangi | they do indeed |
| 18:38 | * libsysguy | is trying to come up with a better schema for overduerules |
| 18:39 | rangi | http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/sponsors/ |
| 18:39 | wahanui | http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/sponsors/ is, like, the website presentation |
| 18:55 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 18:55 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (6:00 AM NZST on May 22, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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| 19:03 | Oak | night guys |
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| 19:23 | * jcamins | yawns and taps his toes impatiently. |
| 19:24 | jcamins | I much prefer the speed of indexing authorities to the speed of indexing biblios. |
| 19:25 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #19: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/19/ |
| 19:25 | * kyle: Bug 8077 - overdues with fines won't run | |
| 19:25 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7604 - Link on basket group name for closed basket groups is broken | |
| 19:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8077 critical, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , overdues with fines won't run |
| 19:25 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7604 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Link on basket group name for closed basket groups is broken | |
| 19:28 | * jcamins | runs away screaming from C4::AuthoritiesMarc::GuessAuthId. |
| 19:34 | cait | jcamins: it's not something you wrote then? |
| 19:35 | jcamins | cait: no. |
| 19:35 | * cait | sends cookies |
| 19:35 | jcamins | I've come to the conclusion that the code will actually work, inaccurate documentation notwithstanding. |
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| 19:44 | rangi | fredericd++ |
| 19:52 | * chris_n | surmises that po files have been created |
| 19:53 | chris_n | heya cait |
| 19:54 | rangi | Yep |
| 19:54 | Will pull them in and release today | |
| 19:55 | chris_n | nice! |
| 19:55 | rangi++ | |
| 19:55 | fredericd__ | |
| 19:55 | fredericd++ | |
| 19:55 | heh | |
| 19:55 | jcamins | rangi++ |
| 19:56 | fredericd++ | |
| 19:56 | cait | fredericd++ rangi++ and hi chris_n :) |
| 19:57 | jcamins | Is this reindex *ever* going to finish? |
| 19:57 | wizzyrea | nope. |
| 19:57 | it's going to die on bib 599999 of 600k | |
| 19:57 | * wizzyrea | gets out the evil |
| 19:57 | jcamins | Yeah, I know. |
| 19:57 | In hindsight I should've switched to a smaller database for this next part. | |
| 19:59 | rangi | Can we do checkpoints? |
| 19:59 | That would be cool | |
| 20:00 | jcamins | I'm not sure. I think Zebra can handle them. |
| 20:00 | Of course, we don't have the code in place to do it even if Zebra can. | |
| 20:00 | rangi | Right |
| 20:00 | Hackfest idea :) | |
| 20:01 | Incremental reindex | |
| 20:02 | jcamins | There's rebuild_zebra_sliced. |
| 20:02 | In bugzilla. | |
| 20:02 | mbalmer | It gives me a headache that edinburgh is so soon... |
| 20:03 | cait | it makes me excited :) |
| 20:03 | mbalmer | yes, me, too, of some sort. |
| 20:04 | really looking forward to it, but there is so much we need in Koha, it is scary... | |
| 20:05 | cait | I think you will find out people can manage without all those features they claim to want |
| 20:05 | and need | |
| 20:06 | not without all of them, but there is always a bigger part | |
| 20:06 | mbalmer | and after all, it wikl be great fun to meet koha folks. |
| 20:06 | even if we don't code a single line | |
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| 20:10 | kathryn | morning |
| 20:10 | cait | hi kathryn :) |
| 20:10 | kathryn | hey cait! |
| 20:10 | cait | how was the ferry? brrr again? |
| 20:11 | kathryn | it was, but 3 degrees warmer by the time I got to town |
| 20:13 | rangi | Bbiab |
| 20:14 | cait | brr |
| 20:17 | jcamins | mbalmer: you should be sure to make sure the community knows what you're working on by filing bugs explaining the functionality. It helps cut down on duplicated work. |
| 20:18 | mbalmer | that is tha case. |
| 20:18 | (I hope...) | |
| 20:18 | jcamins | Oh, I hadn't noticed you filing bug reports. :) |
| 20:19 | Oh, you mean you're going to be. Good! | |
| 20:19 | mbalmer | not for the SIPServer, I guess. |
| 20:19 | but yes, I filed a pr for that one. | |
| 20:20 | so many bugs, so little time... | |
| 20:20 | jcamins | Yes indeed. And puzzles. |
| 20:22 | Like, is there any good way to take advantage of Zebra's scan functionality for authorities. | |
| 20:22 | *? | |
| 20:22 | cait | it would be nice |
| 20:22 | can yo make it work for umlauts? | |
| 20:22 | * cait | has a bug report for scan and umlauts somewhere in there |
| 20:23 | jcamins | Yeah, alphabetization will be off for umlauts. |
| 20:23 | cait | meh. |
| 20:24 | :) | |
| 20:26 | jcamins | \o/ |
| 20:26 | The reindex finished! | |
| 20:29 | * jcamins | is faced with a choice: algorithm A, or algorithm B. Algorithm A has a complexity of O(n^n), but is easy to implement. Algorithm B has a complexity of O(n^2) but is difficult to implement. Why does it always work out like that? |
| 20:29 | jcamins | Oh yes, and we're looking at result set sizes in the millions. |
| 20:30 | (no, that isn't really a choice... that was just for dramatic effect) | |
| 20:30 | cait | lol |
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| 21:01 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #20 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:38 | rangi | 3.8.1 released |
| 21:38 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 21:38 | rangi++ | |
| 21:39 | cait | rangi++ :) |
| 21:39 | * wizzyrea | throws confetti |
| 21:39 | rangi | brb getting coffee |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | a well deserved one. |
| 21:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #20: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/20/ |
| 21:54 | * Chris Cormack: Updating release notes for 3.8.1 | |
| 21:54 | * f.demians: Koha 3.8.1 Translation Update | |
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| 22:10 | rangi | hmm i cant remember the magic foo to post an announcement to mbreedings site |
| 22:12 | jcamins | rangi: e-mail him? |
| 22:13 | I didn't think it was automated. | |
| 22:17 | rangi | i seem to remember some form you could submit |
| 22:17 | but i might be dreaming | |
| 22:17 | jcamins | Not sure, sorry. |
| 22:17 | nengard | rangi |
| 22:17 | it's at the bottom of his site | |
| 22:17 | it says something like contact marshall | |
| 22:17 | rangi | thanks :) |
| 22:17 | nengard | but it basically emails him |
| 22:17 | rangi | ah that will work |
| 22:18 | nengard | I posted to foss4lib already :) |
| 22:18 | rangi | cool |
| 22:18 | nengard | and now i must go take my girl to the vet yet again |
| 22:18 | maybe this time we get an answer | |
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| 22:28 | gmcharlt | rangi++ |
| 22:35 | rangi | http://www.librarytechnology.org/message-send.pl <-- maybe? |
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| 22:38 | gmcharlt | rangi: to announce? sure, why not |
| 22:39 | * rangi | gives it a crack |
| 22:39 | gmcharlt | I think Marshall's also fine with being emailed directly |
| 22:39 | rangi | righto |
| 23:01 | gmcharlt++ | |
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| 23:04 | Space_Librarian | Hey all you lovely people! |
| 23:04 | rangi | hi Space_Librarian |
| 23:04 | Space_Librarian | did you have a good birthday? |
| 23:04 | Was there cake? | |
| 23:05 | rangi | nice and quiet, and nothing broke, so im happy |
| 23:05 | Space_Librarian | hooray! |
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| 23:06 | Space_Librarian | hey papa |
| 23:06 | papa | hi there! |
| 23:10 | Space_Librarian | quick question from Marisa: does "holds filled" = "issued"? |
| 23:10 | rangi | yep |
| 23:11 | Space_Librarian | thank you. :) |
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