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| 00:09 | thd-away` joined #koha | |
| 01:01 | * jcamins_away | informs whoever is around that flip_headings.pl Mark 1 appears to be working pretty well. |
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| 01:05 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.8.0, 3.6.4 and 3.4.8 Now Available | Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org/ | General IRC meeting, 13 June 2012 at 18:00 UTC+0 | |
| 01:05 | * Oak | is researching what is the proper way to hold the steering of a car |
| 01:06 | jcamins_away | Oak: at ten and two. http://www.driversedguru.com/d[…]steering-methods/ |
| 01:07 | * jcamins_away | has never seen someone turn a car without crossing their hands. |
| 01:07 | Oak | aaah. i am also seeing this 10 and 2... everywhere. |
| 01:07 | jcamins_away | Oak: that's because it's the right way to position your hands. |
| 01:08 | Oak | my father saw me driving with 9 and 3 position and has be nagging me that i hold it wrong |
| 01:08 | hmm | |
| 01:08 | jcamins_away | I suppose if it works for you there's nothing wrong with it. |
| 01:09 | The reason not to put your hands at 9 and 3 is that it's much harder to make small adjustments. | |
| 01:09 | Oak | hmm |
| 01:10 | jcamins_away | It's easier to _pull_ the steering wheel _down_ than push it up. |
| 01:10 | You know, this reminds me of something: I'm so glad I practically never have to drive anymore. | |
| 01:10 | Oak | i should at least try 10 and 2. never liked to put my hands high-ish. so. but i should try definitely. |
| 01:10 | :) why who drives for you now? | |
| 01:11 | jcamins_away | I live in New York. |
| 01:11 | Oak | ah |
| 01:11 | got it | |
| 01:11 | jcamins_away | No need to drive at all. :) |
| 01:11 | Oak | :) |
| 01:11 | jcamins_away | It's great! |
| 01:12 | Oak | cabs and trains? |
| 01:12 | and walking is sometimes faster to reach somewhere i hear | |
| 01:12 | jcamins_away | Trains, and sometimes buses, when it's too far to walk. |
| 01:12 | About twice a week I walk from uptown to midtown, though. | |
| 01:12 | Oak | NY! |
| 01:13 | cool. walking is nice in new york i'd think | |
| 01:13 | jcamins_away | Meh. It's loud, crowded, and dirty. |
| 01:13 | But at least it's not claustrophobic. | |
| 01:13 | Oak | hmm :) |
| 01:23 | hmm: http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.co[…]ng-all-wrong?lite | |
| 01:25 | and http://seniordriving.aaa.com/i[…]crashes-emergency | |
| 01:34 | jcamins_away | Interesting. |
| 01:36 | Oak | yup :) and saw one very good video on another topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]ms&feature=relmfu |
| 01:36 | and parallel parking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]M&feature=related | |
| 01:37 | jcamins_away | I hate parallel parking. |
| 01:37 | Oak | that video makes it look so easy |
| 01:38 | i'll surely try what they are saying... makes sense | |
| 01:39 | well, 6:45 am here on a Sunday. i'll go back to sleep. | |
| 01:39 | later jcamins_away ... be back in may be 2 hours. | |
| 01:39 | jcamins_away | Bye. |
| 02:21 | @later tell rangi Do we have a concrete reason not to use XML::LibXML::SAX other than "parsers other than XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser are funky"? | |
| 02:21 | huginn | jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:47 | jcamins_away | @later tell fredericd Are there still problems with parsers other than MARC::XML::File and XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser? |
| 02:47 | huginn | jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
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| 05:31 | eythian_ | http://ubuntuone.com/2SbJUDbDeVCebuqZUoKB2Z <-- kohacon talk planning in progress |
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| 06:29 | eythian_ | http://ubuntuone.com/7cdBHELpbg1yOEnN7EiDwd <-- an hour further into the talk planning |
| 06:39 | nihkil joined #koha | |
| 06:41 | nihkil | hallo |
| 06:42 | nobody here? | |
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| 06:44 | nikhil | hallo |
| 06:47 | i have some doubt about koha 3.80 | |
| 06:47 | i have some doubt about koha 3.8 | |
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| 06:48 | nikhil | hallo |
| 06:48 | nobody here | |
| 06:52 | eythian_ | @later tell nikhil just ask your question, don't ask about asking. |
| 06:52 | huginn | eythian_: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:25 | cait joined #koha | |
| 07:34 | cait | hi #koha |
| 07:35 | rangi | hi cait |
| 07:35 | cait | evening rangi |
| 07:35 | eythian_ | hi cait |
| 07:36 | cait | evening eythian |
| 07:36 | eythian_ | http://ubuntuone.com/2Q5rY0k3riHXlyMXN8SPqZ <-- current talk plans. Comments welcome |
| 07:38 | rangi | looks like a good outline |
| 07:38 | eythian_ | comments that'll help me fill it out a bit more welcome ;) |
| 07:39 | cait | :) |
| 07:39 | eythian_ | though, I think it'll probably pretty much about right time-wise |
| 07:39 | once I've finished the bits I haven't done yet | |
| 07:40 | * eythian_ | finds the Cabin Pressure series to be pretty good for planning a presentation to. |
| 07:40 | eythian_ | Also, beers |
| 07:40 | cait | heh |
| 07:42 | eythian_ | cait: reminds me, I hope you know all the good breweries in and around Konstanz for me to investigate. |
| 07:42 | cait | I might be not the best source for that |
| 07:42 | eythian_ | You're a poor German ;) |
| 07:42 | cait | I am |
| 07:42 | in this regard | |
| 07:43 | eythian_ | Aside from the organisation stress thing :) |
| 07:43 | cait | but I am also a librarian, you will get your information |
| 07:43 | wahanui | okay, cait. |
| 07:43 | eythian_ | haha |
| 07:43 | cait | lol |
| 07:43 | eythian_ | excellent :D |
| 07:43 | wahanui: cait | |
| 07:43 | wahanui | That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) or a librarian, you will get wahanui's information |
| 07:43 | cait | lol |
| 07:45 | eythian_ | I wish untapped would let me specify a location |
| 07:46 | cait | ? |
| 07:46 | well, I know one place at the harbour with good beer, because I have a friend who started to study brewery before he got to be a librarian | |
| 07:46 | eythian_ | http://untappd.com/user/eythian |
| 07:47 | cait | so I can send you there first :) |
| 07:47 | eythian_ | ah well that's definitely sounding like a good start |
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| 07:48 | nihkil | hallo |
| 07:48 | eythian_ | nihkil: you should ask your question :) |
| 07:48 | nihkil | anybody here |
| 07:48 | ok | |
| 07:49 | i have updated koha from 3.6 4 to 3.8 ...but when tha database restored it shows three errors | |
| 07:49 | eythian_ | during the upgrade? |
| 07:49 | what are the errors? | |
| 07:49 | nihkil | yea |
| 07:50 | eythian_ | It's _probably_ OK, but let us know what they are and we should be able to confirm. |
| 07:50 | nihkil | but the installation went ok |
| 07:51 | i think all are working greately.... except errors | |
| 07:51 | eythian_ | Can you be more specific about the errors |
| 07:51 | nihkil | sure |
| 07:52 | just a minute | |
| 07:53 | i cna give detail about it later... now i have an anothor problem | |
| 07:54 | eythian_ | I like how the kohacon programme includes Elevenses. That's something that should be more popular. Also, it's in my spellcheck apparently. |
| 08:07 | * eythian_ | buys a bluetooth mouse to carry in my laptop bag. Pity Microsoft still makes the best mice. |
| 08:12 | cait | true |
| 08:15 | eythian_ | At least my laptop now has an Ubuntu button instead of a windows button. |
| 08:18 | cait | :) |
| 08:19 | mine still has a windows button.... and will have for a while longer | |
| 08:19 | it's still quite new | |
| 08:20 | eythian_ | Mine is very new |
| 08:20 | And delightfully powerful. | |
| 08:25 | rangi | ouch |
| 08:25 | http://www.wiscnews.com/news/l[…]001a4bcf887a.html | |
| 08:26 | i wish they had it made it clear it was liblime's version, i hate to see Koha tarred with that same brush | |
| 08:27 | cait | eythian: what did you get? |
| 08:27 | eythian_ | erk. So my parents ISP has: 1) prevented relaying through their server with a username/password, 2) enabled SPF so that using any other relay indicates it may be spam. This prevents any smartphone user (like my mother) from using their email on their phone away from home. |
| 08:28 | rangi | how silly |
| 08:29 | eythian_ | http://zareason.com/shop/Alto-3880.html <-- cait, this but with the specs increased. |
| 08:29 | it is quite | |
| 08:29 | cait | looks familiar |
| 08:29 | :) | |
| 08:30 | eythian_ | to me too, because I have one in front of me right now. |
| 08:33 | cait | was more thinking about rangi's |
| 08:33 | eythian_ | well you weren't specific |
| 08:33 | rangi: that's pretty terrible | |
| 08:34 | although despite the fact it's Liblime, I'd still give good odds that it's really workflow issues with the library. | |
| 08:35 | rangi | yep |
| 08:35 | cait | hm not sure |
| 08:35 | being slow and double calling patrons? | |
| 08:36 | eythian_ | Well, "response time, searching" isn't defined. |
| 08:37 | Double calling could well be. | |
| 08:37 | Multiple people running the same report, or something like that. | |
| 08:37 | cait | hm yes |
| 09:02 | chilts | eythian_: how souped up did you get the Alto? |
| 09:03 | eythian_ | chilts: 8GB, i7 (the cheaper one), 500GB HD + 4GB SSD buffer. Also extra charger and battery. |
| 09:03 | It's very quick | |
| 09:04 | chilts | and it's "delightfully powerful" you say ... that sounds a bit like what I want :) |
| 09:04 | I probably won't get as muchhard drive space, maybe 6G or 8G depending on price | |
| 09:05 | (actually, only comes in 4, 8 or 16G - 8 it is then) :) | |
| 09:05 | eythian_ | chilts: well, it's 500GB. The SSD part is just to make it faster |
| 09:05 | But the 8GB was sizably more expensive | |
| 09:06 | Also, it only comes in 4 and 8, so maybe you're looking somewhere else | |
| 09:06 | chilts | ok ... important this one, Tux or Ubuntu logo? |
| 09:06 | eythian_ | I got Ubuntu |
| 09:06 | rangi got tux | |
| 09:07 | chilts | I'd get Tux :) |
| 09:07 | even though I use Ubuntu | |
| 09:07 | eythian_ | I didn't put a lot of thought into it :) |
| 09:07 | chilts | when I said 6G or 8G above, I was referring to memory (even though it was on the same line as the hdd) |
| 09:07 | eythian_ | It's not on the same line as the hdd |
| 09:07 | chilts | and did you get charged GST on the way in? |
| 09:07 | eythian_ | it's the line above |
| 09:08 | yes | |
| 09:08 | chilts | 09:04:28 < chilts> I probably won't get as muchhard drive space, maybe 6G or 8G depending on price |
| 09:08 | same line :) | |
| 09:08 | eythian_ | That's very confusing :) |
| 09:08 | chilts | I know, that's why you were confused |
| 09:09 | but that's only 'coz HDDs now have memory | |
| 09:09 | eythian_ | The main impetus for mine is that I'm spending a few months in Yurp from june, and need a development machine. |
| 09:09 | This is an ideal dev machine | |
| 09:09 | Oh, if you don't mind waiting, they're setting up a shop in wellington | |
| 09:10 | Not sure of the timeframe, but this year some time. | |
| 09:10 | ibeardslee may know if he's about | |
| 09:10 | chilts | yeah, I've been speaking to Cathy on Twitter a lot since she's been here |
| 09:10 | eythian_ | ah right |
| 09:10 | chilts | am just wondering about what you got charged on the way in |
| 09:10 | if any | |
| 09:11 | eythian_ | 15%+~$25 or so |
| 09:11 | chilts | righto, so the $25 is an additional charge for clearing or something |
| 09:11 | cool | |
| 09:11 | eythian_ | I factored that in to my calculations, but tbh I think this laptop will last me a good long time. |
| 09:11 | yeah | |
| 09:11 | MAF | |
| 09:11 | chilts | yeah, should be a while |
| 09:12 | of course I'd claim the 15% back anyway | |
| 09:12 | so I shouldn't worry :) | |
| 09:12 | eythian_ | Ah, nice |
| 09:12 | Had I been smarter, I would have bought it through catalyst and done that too | |
| 09:12 | chilts | heh, true :) |
| 09:12 | eythian_ | given I'll be using it for work anyway |
| 09:12 | chilts | yeah, might have worked out well for you |
| 09:13 | yurp==europe? | |
| 09:13 | eythian_ | But mostly it's nice having something where I know that it'll come back from suspend, and when I plug a projector in it magically works. |
| 09:13 | yeah | |
| 09:13 | Going for KohaCon and staying for a few months | |
| 09:13 | cait | :) |
| 09:13 | chilts | yeah, coming back from suspend is one of my new must-haves :) |
| 09:14 | ok, gotta scoot ... night all & | |
| 09:14 | eythian_ | I've actually had good luck with that, there was a time where my old old laptop didn't |
| 09:14 | then a new upgrade came out and it did | |
| 09:14 | since then, everything has worked | |
| 09:14 | I think it's 90% solved in Linux | |
| 09:14 | later | |
| 09:15 | cait | later |
| 09:17 | * cait | starts with her accounting homework |
| 09:31 | eythian_ | http://ubuntuone.com/0lbsxOF3AtO49hCLrarCgM <-- think I've finished with my talk planning |
| 09:31 | Now I just need to do with my packaging talk | |
| 09:32 | That should be mostly demonstration though, so not so big. | |
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| 12:30 | druthb | o/ |
| 12:30 | jcamins | o/ |
| 12:41 | * cait | waves |
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| 19:13 | cait | wahanui: 6 * 35 |
| 19:13 | wahanui | 210 |
| 19:17 | ibeardslee | chilts, eythian etc .. there has been some vague discussion about getting a silver fern sticker to replace that warped box on the key (zareason lappies) |
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| 19:46 | rangi | Morning |
| 19:46 | jcamins | Happy birthday! |
| 19:47 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 19:47 | cait | Happy birthday :) |
| 19:47 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 4.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on May 21, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:47 | rangi | Brr |
| 19:47 | Topic for #koha is now Happy birthday rangi! Koha 3.80 and 3.6.4 Now Available | Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org/ | General IRC meeting, 13 June 2012 at 18:00 UTC+0 | |
| 19:47 | rangi | Thanks |
| 19:51 | pastebot | "jcamins" at 24.193.130.86 pasted "Fun exercise in query optimization!" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/401 |
| 19:52 | jcamins | I have successfully seized up my db with that query, on a small dataset! |
| 19:52 | * jcamins | sighs, and turns it back into two queries. |
| 19:53 | cait | what are you trying to do? |
| 19:53 | jcamins | cait: I want a list of all biblios with a count of the number of issue statistics related to each biblio. |
| 19:53 | cait | hmm |
| 19:53 | rangi | Have u tried an explain on it? |
| 19:54 | jcamins | rangi: yeah, it's going through all records on biblio and statistics. |
| 19:54 | cait | hm |
| 19:54 | I wonder | |
| 19:55 | do we really need bilbio items and statistics | |
| 19:55 | ? | |
| 19:55 | you want total issues per biblio? | |
| 19:55 | jcamins | cait: unfortunately, yes. |
| 19:55 | Exactly. | |
| 19:55 | cait | although I am not sure that is useful |
| 19:55 | jcamins | Very useful here. |
| 19:55 | cait | no need ot factor in the number of items? |
| 19:55 | jcamins | Right. |
| 19:56 | I don't care how many items there are. | |
| 19:56 | cait | what do you need it for? |
| 19:56 | jcamins | Popularity. |
| 19:56 | To populate 942$0. | |
| 19:57 | I guess I'll split it into two queries. | |
| 19:58 | rangi | It's a one off? To fix it eh? |
| 19:59 | jcamins | rangi: not entirely. |
| 19:59 | It could also be used if you want to repopulate your popularity data with only checkouts in the last month. | |
| 20:00 | rangi | Ahh ok |
| 20:00 | cait | jcamins: I am not sure items are not important here |
| 20:01 | jcamins | cait: they're irrelevant because I'm populating biblio data not item data. |
| 20:01 | cait | hm |
| 20:02 | I think I should go back to do accounting :) | |
| 20:03 | jcamins | Yes you should. |
| 20:03 | Accounting is important. | |
| 20:03 | cait | hmpf |
| 20:05 | rangi | Yes |
| 20:05 | cait | hmpf |
| 20:05 | jcamins | Okay, that worked. |
| 20:05 | 68 seconds. | |
| 20:06 | In test mode. | |
| 20:06 | For 164k records. | |
| 20:06 | rangi | Nice |
| 20:06 | jcamins | Should I try non-test mode? |
| 20:07 | rangi | After a backup :) |
| 20:07 | jcamins | Good plan. |
| 20:08 | This is going to take a while. | |
| 20:10 | rangi | My stop bbiab |
| 20:14 | kathryn | hiyas |
| 20:15 | cait | hi kathryn :) |
| 20:15 | kathryn | hey cait, it was a two-wooley-hats day on the ferry today brrrr |
| 20:16 | cait | brrr |
| 20:16 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 20:16 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 18.0°C (10:00 PM CEST on May 20, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.57 in 1001 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:16 | cait | quite warm here today |
| 20:16 | kathryn | @wunder Wellington nz |
| 20:16 | huginn | kathryn: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 4.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on May 21, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
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| 20:19 | ibeardslee | brrr .. come back summer, I'm sorry |
| 20:20 | rangi | frosty |
| 20:21 | kathryn | what did you do to scare it away ibeardslee? |
| 20:21 | cait | ibeardslee: sorry, summer is here now and is going to stay for a while :) |
| 20:22 | ibeardslee | summer .. it has no commitment |
| 20:37 | rangi | slef: you awake, near a computer? |
| 20:40 | i guess i should write a blogpost about the userday | |
| 20:47 | cait | yes, you should :) |
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| 20:47 | cait | kohacon12 program is http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/program/ |
| 20:47 | rangi | yay! |
| 20:57 | * ibeardslee | as a couple of days to work on his flexbility to fold himself suitcase sized |
| 20:58 | cait | lol |
| 21:06 | jcamins | LEFT JOINs with more than two tables don't work the way I thought they would, do they? |
| 21:07 | (answer: nope) | |
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| 23:55 | jcamins | My dinner just exploded. |
| 23:57 | eythian | That sounds not ideal |
| 23:58 | ibeardslee | not a pie was it? |
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