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| 00:31 | mtj | ooh, mod_pagespeed plugin for apache - looks helpful for Koha performance debugging |
| 00:32 | https://developers.google.com/[…]oad#mod_pagespeed | |
| 00:32 | http://www.modpagespeed.com/ | |
| 00:34 | "mod_pagespeed is an open-source Apache module that automatically optimizes web pages and resources on them. Optimization is done by rewriting the resources using filters that implement web performance best practices. Webmasters and web developers can use mod_pagespeed to improve the performance of their web pages when serving content with the Apache HTTP Server." | |
| 00:35 | aah, its not for debugging, but does actual optimization before sending to browser | |
| 00:36 | ... could be a nice easy speed win | |
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| 01:04 | chris_n | mtj: I downloaded all 3.2G of it last evening hoping to pound koha with it a bit :) |
| 01:08 | mtj | man, this oracle/google java case in the tech news is beyond belief :/ |
| 01:08 | ... i cant even be bothered attempting to understand it | |
| 01:10 | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/[…]d-not-use-suns-ip | |
| 01:12 | actually, i lie.... i *have* attempted to understand it - and i can't | |
| 01:14 | jcamins_away | rangi, excellent, I hopwd you would. |
| 01:14 | * chris_n | wonders if jcamins_away found his nail |
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| 01:34 | * chris_n | wanders off in search of sleep |
| 01:39 | jcamins_away | Nope. |
| 01:52 | Judit | do you know any Koha library with Library Thing's Library Anywhere app working? |
| 01:53 | mtj | heya Judit |
| 01:53 | hmm, i dont... :/ | |
| 01:53 | eythian might? | |
| 01:53 | eythian | I don't either |
| 01:54 | mtj | meh, ok :) |
| 01:55 | .. ive always been curious to see functionality it offers | |
| 01:55 | s/see/see what/ | |
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| 03:02 | druthb | o/ |
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| 03:40 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag |
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| 03:59 | vkm | Dear Vimal, I am using field 942$c commonly for BOOK (BK) item in my all records and making dividing items like reference book (REF), Reserve book (RB), Book bank (BB) in field 952. But when restricting the search in OPAC by Book only it shows also records which contain reference items only in field 952 which may be because of field 942$c where Book is ente |
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| 04:00 | vkm | So please advice me what to do to handle this problem? May i remove all field 942$c because 952 already contain information about each item type? Please see below my record structure and also let me know any solution/patch for auto indexing through cronjob. |
| 04:04 | dgl-library joined #koha | |
| 04:07 | dgl-library | Hi #koha |
| 04:10 | Anybody here have experience successfully backing up the database? I'm having a problem. | |
| 04:11 | mtj | dgl-library: just use mysqldump |
| 04:11 | $ mysqldump mydb > mydb.sql | |
| 04:12 | eythian | dgl-library: I just use the backups that the koha-common package makes. |
| 04:12 | mtj | eythian++ even better :) |
| 04:16 | dgl-library | eythian: how do I make those backups? |
| 04:16 | eythian | run koha from the packages and it just happens |
| 04:17 | Judit | :) |
| 04:17 | dgl-library | I was trying mysqldump -u kohaadmin -p koha > mydatadump.sql … but it didn't like my username/password combination |
| 04:17 | eythian: I don't know what that means. where do I start? koha's staff client is up and running. | |
| 04:18 | eythian | dgl-library: if you installed Koha from the debian packages, then backups are made for you automatically. |
| 04:18 | however, your command should work provided the username, password, and database name match your koha config. | |
| 04:18 | mtj | dgl-library look in your koha-xml.conf file - for the user/password |
| 04:18 | eythian | If it's not working, then they don't match. |
| 04:19 | dgl-library | eythian: where are those backups stored? |
| 04:19 | mtj: thanks, I'll check | |
| 04:19 | eythian | /var/spool/koha |
| 04:20 | mtj | dgl-library: i guess 'koha' is not your password |
| 04:20 | eythian | mtj: you're reading the command wrong |
| 04:20 | mtj | ah, yep ;) |
| 04:21 | dgl-library | mtj: it asks for the password in a dialogue after that :) |
| 04:21 | mtj | -p is 'prompt for password' |
| 04:21 | -p koha != -pkoha | |
| 04:21 | dgl-library | mtj: but you were on to something… I realized koha is not the db name! |
| 04:22 | mtj | yep, all those details are in the .conf file |
| 04:22 | dgl-library | eythian: thanks, I found the backups you were talking about. very useful to know about! I didn't see /var/spool/koha mentioned in http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Backing_up_Koha |
| 04:23 | eythian | I think it's documented on the package wiki page |
| 04:23 | but should be elsewhere too | |
| 04:25 | dgl-library | mtj: so if I do it without -p, I'm not asked for my password, but I still get all the same info? |
| 04:26 | mtj: never mind, that didn't work either | |
| 04:32 | eythian | dgl-library: your password is in your koha-conf.xml |
| 04:59 | Amit_Gupta | heya eythian, mtj |
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| 05:05 | vkm | i used 942$c commonly for item BOOK (BK) in all records at the time of importing data and used 952 for separating item types like reference etc, but in searching when i restrict by Book it shows reference also |
| 05:06 | please advice what to do can i remove field 942$c because field 952 already contain information about each item type?? | |
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| 05:08 | vkm | hello koha users seeking help please |
| 05:22 | after importing the records i could not search by author, subject browse options | |
| 05:23 | what need to be done before importing to browse options | |
| 05:23 | Judit | canyou search and find the records |
| 05:24 | vkm | yes |
| 05:28 | hello answer please | |
| 05:29 | i used 942$c commonly for item BOOK (BK) in all records at the time of importing data and used 952 for separating item types like reference etc, but in searching when i restrict by Book it shows reference also, please advice what to do can i remove field 942$c because field 952 already contain information about each item type?? | |
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| 05:29 | renren_28 | hi guys |
| 05:29 | vkm | hi |
| 05:29 | i used 942$c commonly for item BOOK (BK) in all records at the time of importing data and used 952 for separating item types like reference etc, but in searching when i restrict by Book it shows reference also, please advice what to do can i remove field 942$c because field 952 already contain information about each item type?? | |
| 05:29 | renren_28 | i have a question on my koha virtual appliance |
| 05:30 | help me guy with this error •DateTime::Format::ICal | |
| 05:30 | Version: 0.09 | |
| 05:30 | Usage: Core | |
| 05:30 | •Modern::Perl | |
| 05:30 | Version: 1.03 | |
| 05:30 | Usage: Core | |
| 05:31 | please help me | |
| 05:31 | dgl-library | eythian: thanks. found it. |
| 05:31 | renren_28: I tried using the koha virtual appliance and had nothing but problems. are you using the configured or unconfigured version? | |
| 05:32 | renren_28 | same version |
| 05:32 | same result | |
| 05:33 | im using the virtual box | |
| 05:33 | dgl-library | renren_28: right, but you downloaded the koha virtual appliance, right? there are 2 versions: "configured" and "unconfigured" … which one do you have? |
| 05:34 | renren_28 | the configured version |
| 05:35 | dgl-library | renren_28: that's good, because we had endless problems with the unconfigured version. unfortunately very few people in this group use the virtual appliance, so if I were you I wouldn't mention the virtual appliance when asking your questions. btw, what country are you in? |
| 05:36 | renren_28 | philippines |
| 05:37 | do u have ym dgl-library? | |
| 05:38 | dgl-library | here's my suggestion: if you prefer to do things via virtualbox, download the virtualbox image of Debian Lenny from http://downloads.sourceforge.n[…]debian-5.0-x86.7z |
| 05:38 | and then install virtualbox on that debian OS in the normal way. fewer problems. | |
| 05:38 | vkm | i used 942$c commonly for item BOOK (BK) in all records at the time of importing data and used 952 for separating item types like reference etc, but in searching when i restrict by Book it shows reference also, please advice what to do can i remove field 942$c because field 952 already contain information about each item type?? |
| 05:39 | cait | vkm: I think repeating the same question here again and again will not make people help you |
| 05:39 | you could try to write an email to the list with all necessary informationa nd examples what you want to do | |
| 05:39 | renren_28 | ok thanks i will |
| 05:40 | vkm | sorry but i am new to system but trying to implement koha in a big organisation |
| 05:40 | from where i can get mail of relevant peoples please tell me | |
| 05:41 | cait | mailing lists? |
| 05:41 | wahanui | mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 05:41 | Judit | vkm, so you have itype in 942c |
| 05:41 | vkm | yes commonly used in all recor at the time of importing |
| 05:41 | Judit | and in 952 you have an "extended" itype |
| 05:42 | vkm | yes |
| 05:42 | Judit | 952y is the itemtype field in koha bydefault |
| 05:43 | vkm | e.g Book in 942 than if 3 copy of book we divided it as reference, reserve and again book in 952y |
| 05:43 | at searching in opac when restricting by Book item it shows reference item also | |
| 05:44 | because may be Book i used in 942c even the biblio contain only reference | |
| 05:44 | Judit | do you have itemtypes set up for reference and reserve? |
| 05:45 | vkm | yes everything ok |
| 05:45 | if restrictes search by reference than result is fine only reference | |
| 05:46 | dgl-library | mtj: I successfully entered the backup commands "mysqldump -u kohaadmin -p koha > mydatadump.sql" … where is that backup stored? |
| 05:46 | Judit | what do you need the information in 942 for? |
| 05:46 | vkm | but if i use restrict by Book it gives all item result i noticed |
| 05:46 | Judit | the itemtype tells you wjat it is, right? |
| 05:47 | cait | dgl-library: the file should be in the same directory you ran the command in |
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| 05:47 | cait | morning Oak |
| 05:48 | Oak | morning cait :) |
| 05:48 | dgl-library | cait: thanks! found it. |
| 05:48 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 05:48 | Judit | sorry vkm i cannot help you |
| 05:49 | dgl-library | Tēnā koe Oak |
| 05:49 | Oak | hello dgl-library :) |
| 05:49 | vkm | can i ignore item type in field 942c |
| 05:50 | Judit | Koha to MARC Mapping |
| 05:50 | go there | |
| 05:50 | in biblioitems, 942c is pointing to itemtype | |
| 05:50 | cait | Judit: I think I would be very careful changing that |
| 05:51 | Judit | yes i know |
| 05:51 | but he wants to | |
| 05:51 | cait | it seems more safe to just not make the field mandatory perhaps |
| 05:51 | Judit | and i never said to change that |
| 05:51 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait, Judit |
| 05:51 | Judit | also in items, 952y is pointing to itemtype |
| 05:51 | hi | |
| 05:52 | dgl-library | hi amit, are you here in india? |
| 05:52 | cait | Judit: sorry |
| 05:53 | Amit_Gupta | heya dg-library |
| 05:53 | heya dgl-library ya i m in india | |
| 05:53 | .. | |
| 05:54 | dgl-library | so am I |
| 05:54 | Amit_Gupta | dgl-library are you also from india |
| 05:54 | ? | |
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| 05:54 | vkm | so can i remove 942c from all my records bcz 952y already contains item information, and can i remove mandatory from 942c? |
| 05:55 | dgl-library | Amit_Gupta: I am also in India |
| 05:57 | Amit_Gupta | from where? |
| 06:17 | dgl-library | I am in HP, and you? |
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| 06:18 | eythian | vkm: removing mandatory from a koha internal field is probably a very bad idea. |
| 06:18 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:19 | vkm | than advice what to do |
| 06:20 | eythian | change how zebra is searching, perhaps, so it excludes 942? |
| 06:20 | wahanui | eythian: that doesn't look right |
| 06:20 | eythian | I'm not really capable of helping you with that though. |
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| 06:23 | dgl-library | vkm: if it's bothering you, go into Subfields and make it hidden |
| 06:23 | vkm: but do not change the Default framework | |
| 06:23 | Oak | Amit_Gupta, any Z39.50 servers' details you can provide from India... that have Management Sciences LPE / Indian Editions of foreign books |
| 06:23 | vkm | searching my problem is searching in opac |
| 06:23 | somebody told me it is bug | |
| 06:25 | when i limit search by Boo it also shows reference because for reference item in field 952y i used Book in field 942c uniformly for all the records at the time of importing | |
| 06:25 | =942 \\$cBK =952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p5683$yREF$o621.8002 O15M | |
| 06:26 | =942 \\$cBK =952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p1271$yREF$o621.01 MAN =952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p1564$yRB$o621.01 MAN | |
| 06:26 | =942 \\$cBK =952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p1000$yBK$o621.3 KNO =952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p663$yBK$o621.3 KNO | |
| 06:26 | please above my record structures in marc format i used for importing | |
| 06:27 | 942c is common than used 952y for each item type | |
| 06:29 | i think if there is no Book in 952y field than i have to use item REF/BB/RS etc. in 942c so searching by book only will not pick the data from 942c field | |
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| 06:30 | marcelr | hi koha |
| 06:30 | vkm | but i wanted to use book as a common item/material type |
| 06:30 | above are my problems please advice | |
| 06:31 | Oak | hello marcelr |
| 06:33 | marcelr | hi Oak |
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| 06:35 | francharb | morning #koha |
| 06:36 | marcelr | hi francharb |
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| 06:41 | Oak | morning francharb |
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| 06:46 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
| 06:46 | vkm | magnuse hi |
| 06:47 | magnuse | hiya vkm |
| 06:47 | vkm | probably you resolve my problem |
| 06:47 | magnuse | sorry probably not |
| 06:47 | vkm | =942 \\$cBK =952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p5683$yREF$o621.8002 O15M |
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| 06:48 | vkm | biblio contain only reference item |
| 06:48 | julian_m | hi |
| 06:48 | vkm | but i used book in 942c uniformly at the time of importin so when i search by item type book only it sows reference also |
| 06:50 | eythian | You could write a script that sets 942$c to be equal to whatever the item type really is. |
| 06:50 | vkm | there is two option either not to make 942 mandatory or not to use book if it contain item reference only etc |
| 06:51 | 942c must be equal to 952y in my case but for searching book type only it does not | |
| 06:52 | if i search for reference it pics only reference | |
| 06:52 | so if i will make 942c also reference than it will work fine but loose uniformity of Book in 942c | |
| 06:53 | please advice | |
| 06:53 | wahanui | please advice is there any other easy and friendly method to do the job on server machine i wanted to implement it in mib_ex6ial's library |
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| 06:54 | vkm | what is difference between 942c field and 952y field |
| 06:55 | eythian | 942c is at the biblio level, and provides the default item type. |
| 06:55 | 952y is the item type for a specific item. | |
| 06:57 | dgl-library | Bye for now #koha |
| 06:57 | vkm | than if i have two same book one for reference and one for BooK(general issue) what data should i fill in 942 and 952 |
| 06:58 | have defined BK for general book and REF for reference | |
| 07:03 | eythian | whatever is most appropriate for the situation. |
| 07:03 | If you bought another one, what would it most likely be | |
| 07:03 | that kind of thing, I don't think there's a rule. | |
| 07:04 | vkm | actualy i wanted to use one biblio for many items type |
| 07:05 | eythian | that's not uncommon |
| 07:05 | 942$c is used as more of a default than anything. | |
| 07:07 | vkm | but 942c accepts only one which i want to use as a book type material uniformly, but if i use book by default in 942c even the book is reference in 952y field it creates problem in searching |
| 07:07 | when restricting search by item book it shows the reference also but there is no reference in 952y field | |
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| 07:09 | eythian | vkm: you could always ask on the mailing list, not everyone is awake at this time here. |
| 07:09 | vkm | ok |
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| 07:27 | gaetan_B | hii #koha! |
| 07:30 | magnuse | bonjour gaetan_B |
| 07:41 | Oak | magnuse |
| 07:48 | magnuse | Oak |
| 07:50 | Oak | magnuse, do you know how to set-up postfix for Koha? |
| 07:50 | for email notifications | |
| 07:51 | magnuse | Oak: not really - i think last time i tried i pretty much just did "sudo apt-get install postfix", but i might misremember... |
| 07:52 | Oak | i have installed it, but cannot get email notifications to work: http://pastebin.com/8s2xBBTY |
| 07:52 | this is from /var/log/syslog by the way | |
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| 07:53 | kf | hi #koha |
| 07:53 | magnuse | Oak: try googling "User unknown in local recipient table"? |
| 07:53 | guten morgen kf | |
| 07:53 | Oak | welcome back cait |
| 07:53 | hmm | |
| 07:54 | magnuse | Oak: just a friendly tip: http://paste.koha-community.org/ has less commercials :-) |
| 07:54 | Oak | aah |
| 07:54 | cool | |
| 07:55 | eythian | magnuse: you don't have adblock? |
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| 07:55 | narcisgarcia | Hello! |
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| 07:57 | magnuse | hola narcisgarcia |
| 07:57 | eythian: only a well developed one between my ears :-) | |
| 07:59 | narcisgarcia | Once configured all categories of Koha, I don't know how to enter books. |
| 08:00 | magnuse | narcisgarcia: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]n/cataloging.html |
| 08:00 | narcisgarcia | Is only the installation user who can catalog books? |
| 08:01 | I've created user categories and don't know how to allow librarians to catalog. | |
| 08:02 | Ok, I'll read carefully that manual chapter. | |
| 08:03 | rangi | Also read the chapter on adding staff users |
| 08:04 | magnuse | narcisgarcia: don't do things as the installation user, do what rangi says :-) |
| 08:05 | narcisgarcia | I see the global parameter "IndependantBranches" (very interesting for us), but I don't know how to setup branches. |
| 08:06 | magnuse | narcisgarcia: have a look through the manual, there's tons of good stuff in there :-) |
| 08:16 | Oak | magnuse!!!!! |
| 08:16 | wahanui | magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 08:16 | Oak | it worked |
| 08:17 | mail working | |
| 08:17 | magnuse | yay! |
| 08:17 | Oak | now question... the mail I received from my Koha server says: |
| 08:17 | If you have any problems or questions regarding your account, please contact your Koha Administrator. | |
| 08:17 | Thank you, | |
| 08:17 | Koha Administrator | |
| 08:17 | kohaadminyoursite.org |
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| 08:17 | where is that coming from? seems like from Koha? | |
| 08:18 | magnuse | probably :-) |
| 08:18 | there is a setting for admin emai | |
| 08:18 | Oak | where?? |
| 08:18 | hmm let me see | |
| 08:18 | this is coooool | |
| 08:18 | magnuse | :-) |
| 08:18 | KohaAdminEmailAddress is worth a look | |
| 08:19 | narcisgarcia | Administration -> Global system preferences -> Administration -> Interface options |
| 08:19 | Oak | hmm, that field is already set to my email address |
| 08:19 | i think i can grep kohaadminyoursite.org |
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| 08:21 | narcisgarcia | What means the "Authorities" concept in Koha? |
| 08:21 | magnuse | Oak: it might be hardcoded in notice, see :8080/cgi-bin/koha/tools/letter.pl |
| 08:21 | pastebot | "Oak" at 111.68.99.242 pasted "[rootaridkoha var]# cd /usr/s" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/364 |
| 08:22 | magnuse | Oak: looks like you need to edit some notices |
| 08:22 | Oak | yup :) |
| 08:22 | just the 'en' one | |
| 08:22 | narcisgarcia | Oak, looks like you found only default sample values. |
| 08:22 | magnuse | narcisgarcia: http://www.loc.gov/marc/uma/ |
| 08:23 | rangi | You might want to do a course in library science, its a big field, authorities aren't specific just to koha |
| 08:24 | narcisgarcia | Then "authority" refers to the protocol? |
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| 08:25 | narcisgarcia | I want to make the application begin to produce, to librarians catalog some books and public can see them from internet. No much more. |
| 08:25 | reiveune | hello |
| 08:25 | narcisgarcia | Hello reiveune |
| 08:25 | (and librarians are common people) | |
| 08:26 | magnuse | narcisgarcia: excuse me? |
| 08:26 | Oak | hmm. magnuse, editing intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sample_notices.sql had no effect. so it *is* just a sample |
| 08:26 | wahanui | magnuse: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 08:26 | rangi | No they are well trained informational professionals |
| 08:26 | magnuse | Oak: the stuff in intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sample_notices.sql was loaded into your db when you did the web installation |
| 08:27 | rangi | Cataloguers especially |
| 08:27 | magnuse | Oak: you need to edit them through the WebUI |
| 08:27 | Oak | so I edit the DB? |
| 08:27 | phpMyAdmin? | |
| 08:27 | magnuse | Oak: Home › Tools › Notices & Slips |
| 08:27 | narcisgarcia | The librarians in the libraries I'm configuring are common people, not professionals. |
| 08:27 | Oak | aaah |
| 08:28 | magnuse | Oak: there should never be a need for phpMyAdmin... |
| 08:28 | Oak | found it magnuse !! |
| 08:28 | changed it. cooool. thank you! | |
| 08:28 | * mtj | greets the herd |
| 08:28 | rangi | You will need to read the manual and then train them then |
| 08:29 | mtj | narcisgarcia: -> http://www.loc.gov/marc/uma/pt1-7.html#pt4 |
| 08:29 | 'Understanding MARC Authority Records' | |
| 08:30 | * magnuse | greets mtj |
| 08:32 | narcisgarcia | Then an authority can be a key word? |
| 08:32 | Oak | okay now time to check if the overdue notices work or not... i have issued a book. how do i make it's due date expire? |
| 08:32 | narcisgarcia | "Shakespeare" can be an authority? |
| 08:32 | Oak | for testing that is |
| 08:32 | narcisgarcia | http://authorities.loc.gov/help/name-auth.htm |
| 08:33 | magnuse | Oak: you wait... ;-) |
| 08:33 | Oak: you can set a due date in the past when you issue | |
| 08:33 | Oak | no no i think i found something... the "Renewal due date: " option... |
| 08:33 | narcisgarcia | An abbreviation can be an authority? |
| 08:35 | Oak | nah that does not work... hm. i'll keep trying. |
| 08:35 | narcisgarcia | In my country, the "authority" term generally means "people with power" or "people with intellectual reputation" |
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| 08:35 | narcisgarcia | Hello mbalmer |
| 08:35 | mbalmer | good morning! |
| 08:36 | magnuse | narcisgarcia: you are entering a new and strange country now, it's called library land... :-) |
| 08:36 | narcisgarcia | You mean "English library land" |
| 08:37 | Then "authority" refers to data and not to field structure, right? | |
| 08:37 | rangi | Magnuse is Norwegian, so no |
| 08:38 | I'm not English either fwiw | |
| 08:39 | narcisgarcia | I see that we'll need a professional librarian to make the setup, or look for a simpler application. |
| 08:40 | First I tried with Invenio, and someone recommended me Koha better. | |
| 08:41 | Note that the spanish translation of the manual is incomplete, and for example there is not the "Implementation Checklist" chapter. | |
| 08:42 | magnuse | narcisgarcia: getting some input from a pro on how to set things up might be a good idea - Koha is pretty hard core, in a way |
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| 08:45 | akg | what difference between deleting the stage imported in catalog record and deleting before importing in catalog stage records |
| 08:48 | mtj | narcisgarcia: improvements to the spanish translation of the Koha manual are graciously accepted ;) |
| 08:49 | narcisgarcia | Of course, but first is needed to understand the english librarian country |
| 08:50 | I'm having dificulties with the english version. As I understood some installation steps, I added some tips to the wiki, for example. | |
| 08:52 | Oak | magnuse, a silly question. if EnhancedMessagingPreferences is set to 'Don't allow', then where was the setting (check boxes) for that located? Where i can choose which notices should be sent or not? |
| 08:52 | got dc... sending again. | |
| 08:52 | magnuse, a silly question. if EnhancedMessagingPreferences is set to 'Don't allow', then where was the setting (check boxes) for that located? Where i can choose which notices should be sent or not? | |
| 08:54 | magnuse | well, i think you have to set EnhancedMessagingPreferences = Allow to see the checkboxes |
| 08:54 | Oak | but then users will be able to choose whether they receive overdue notices or not. |
| 08:55 | magnuse | if they should not choose you don't need the checkboxes |
| 08:55 | then you just configure notices | |
| 08:56 | akg | what difference between deleting the stage imported in catalog record and deleting before importing in catalog stage records |
| 08:56 | Oak | configure them in "Tools" yes? |
| 08:58 | magnuse | Oak: Home › Tools › Notice triggers |
| 08:58 | Oak | yup |
| 08:59 | thank you! | |
| 08:59 | magnuse++ | |
| 09:07 | narcisgarcia | About AllFinesNeedOverride: if set to "no", means that the override will be automatic? |
| 09:07 | (Administration -> System Preferences -> Circulation preferences -> Checkout policy) | |
| 09:14 | akg | cronjob for auto indexing with zebra -z is not working in version 3.6 |
| 09:16 | others cron job are working fine | |
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| 09:21 | narcisgarcia | Oops, I made an installation for all the languages, but I see that the bottom list of languages in interface is limited to browser window width. |
| 09:22 | Language links that don't fit in the bottom bar, aren't available (the bar doesn't scroll) | |
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| 09:26 | slef | I thought it was a drop-down. Am I obsolete again? |
| 09:27 | Oak | yes you are |
| 09:27 | kidding | |
| 09:27 | not sure | |
| 09:32 | narcisgarcia | It's like a fixed frame. |
| 09:33 | * Oak | wondering if it is possible to send an email message to all patrons... |
| 09:46 | slef | wahanui: ILL? |
| 09:46 | wahanui | no idea, slef |
| 09:46 | slef | anyone got an overview of the current state of ILL in koha? |
| 09:46 | Oak: select email from borrowers in a report, drop it into a mailshotter? | |
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| 09:47 | slef | Oak: may be a nicer way but I like using listservers |
| 09:50 | narcisgarcia | About OPACShowCheckoutName: If set to True, is it shown to public too? |
| 09:51 | mib_utlihq | yes |
| 09:51 | narcisgarcia | (Administration -> System Preferences -> OPAC preferences) |
| 09:51 | Ok. | |
| 09:51 | Thanks. | |
| 09:57 | slef | ok this is odd |
| 09:57 | Oak | ah thank you slef ... let me see |
| 09:58 | slef | I get logged out when I try to place an order in acq |
| 09:58 | place an item into the basket | |
| 09:58 | but it added it anyway | |
| 09:59 | something to investigate later | |
| 09:59 | mib_utlihq | i get massage hold can not be put, but i saw there was hold finaly |
| 09:59 | kf_mtg | slef: permissions |
| 10:00 | slef | kf_mtg: superlibrarian |
| 10:00 | wahanui | superlibrarian is one of the permissions |
| 10:00 | slef | Am I right in thinking we cannot move a basket between vendors? |
| 10:00 | kf_mtg | slef: try giving yourself all acq permission |
| 10:00 | s | |
| 10:00 | sorry, have to run | |
| 10:00 | slef | kf_mtg: will do. Later. |
| 10:00 | kf_mtg | slef: not yt, there is a patch somewhere I think |
| 10:01 | mib_utlihq | cronejob for zebra-z not working is there any pathc for that |
| 10:01 | in version3.6.4 | |
| 10:01 | * slef | goes searching |
| 10:02 | slef | mib_utlihq: define "not working" but probably not as if there was a serious problem there would be a 3.6.5 including it ready but search the bug tracker |
| 10:02 | wahanui: the bug tracker? | |
| 10:02 | wahanui | slef: i don't know |
| 10:02 | slef | wahanui: the bug tracker is http://bugs.koha-community.org |
| 10:02 | wahanui | OK, slef. |
| 10:03 | mib_utlihq | not working means after check out/check in opac does not shows updated record it simply shoes item not available |
| 10:04 | but in details view things are ok | |
| 10:04 | slef | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7757 Edit basket vendor after it has been created (Failed QA) |
| 10:04 | thanks kf | |
| 10:27 | mtj | francharb / hdl - about? |
| 10:28 | francharb | mtj, 0/ |
| 10:28 | what is it about? | |
| 10:29 | mtj | heya francharb, a little question... |
| 10:29 | francharb | tell me! |
| 10:29 | mtj | me ask in private :) |
| 10:29 | francharb | oki |
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| 11:58 | narcisgarcia | About yuipath: Are the Yahoo UI libraries free software? |
| 11:58 | (Administration -> System Preferences -> Staff Client preferences -> Appearance) | |
| 11:59 | jcamins_away | narcisgarcia: yes. |
| 11:59 | narcisgarcia | Which license use? |
| 11:59 | jcamins_away | No idea. |
| 11:59 | narcisgarcia | Are written in PERL? |
| 11:59 | jcamins_away | No, Javascript. |
| 12:00 | There's really no reason to change that syspref. | |
| 12:00 | magnuse | YUI is BSD license, according to Home › About Koha › Licenses |
| 12:01 | narcisgarcia | Do Yahoo get statistical data with the use of its libraries, or some other communication? |
| 12:02 | magnuse | only if you use the hosted option, not for the local option |
| 12:02 | narcisgarcia | Ok, thanks. |
| 12:03 | About HidePatronName: does this affect to public/anonymous view? | |
| 12:03 | (Administration -> System Preferences -> Staff Client preferences -> Options) | |
| 12:03 | jcamins_away | narcisgarcia: did you read the manual? If you plan on looking at every single syspref, you'd probably be best served by reading through the manual. |
| 12:05 | narcisgarcia | In the manual, basically is written the same explanation as in the administration interface. |
| 12:06 | "the names of patrons that have items checked out or on hold on detail pages or the "Place Hold" screen" | |
| 12:06 | (for the major part of options) | |
| 12:07 | jcamins_away | Ah. I have no idea what that syspref does. |
| 12:07 | I generally only change sysprefs when there's something I don't like about the way my system is working. | |
| 12:08 | narcisgarcia | I don't completely understand when an option talks about showing or not showinf something in OPAC, if it refers to anyone or to logged users or to self logged user. |
| 12:08 | jcamins_away | It probably depends on the option. |
| 12:10 | narcisgarcia | I don't want to anonymous visitors see any patron name in any place. |
| 12:10 | magnuse | narcisgarcia: that's the default |
| 12:11 | narcisgarcia | Ok, then I can suppose, with the defaults, that if some option is already set to show it's only for logged users. |
| 12:12 | magnuse | logged in users will see their own stuff, as a default no users can see what others have borrowed |
| 12:14 | narcisgarcia | Thanks. |
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| 12:28 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:29 | magnuse | kia ora oleonard |
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| 13:03 | kf | hi oleonard |
| 13:06 | Oak | kf if free kindly check if this works? http://111.68.99.242/ |
| 13:06 | kf | hm |
| 13:07 | it's still loading | |
| 13:07 | magnuse | in norway too |
| 13:07 | kf | hm it timed out for me |
| 13:08 | * jcamins_away | too |
| 13:08 | Oak | :( *sigh* |
| 13:08 | okay thanks! | |
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| 13:22 | * chris_n | steps in and out |
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| 13:24 | narciagrcia | Hello everybody. |
| 13:27 | I've registered a "patron", assigned to a patron category of "Staff" type, but Koha doesn't allow it to login to the administration interface. | |
| 13:28 | Am I leaving some more permissions to set? | |
| 13:30 | Librarians are registered as patrons (in staff type categories), or there is another way to work with this kind of users? | |
| 13:30 | magnuse | narciagrcia: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]npermissions.html |
| 13:31 | narciagrcia | Thanks, I didn't find so clear. |
| 13:34 | There isn't the same kind of permissions for whole patron category? | |
| 13:35 | jcamins_away | No. |
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| 13:40 | vfernandes | hi guys |
| 13:41 | can you tell me how to search by the creation time and by the time last modified? | |
| 13:41 | UNIMARC version | |
| 13:41 | slef | raileasy bloody ticket price gougers |
| 13:41 | </rant> | |
| 13:42 | vfernandes: maybe check if those item fields are indexed by zebra? | |
| 13:42 | wahanui: @marc 952 | |
| 13:42 | wahanui | The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
| 13:43 | ArunRV | Hello. We have a school campus management system that has accounts for all students. We have a Koha installation as well. We'd like to have single-sign-on facility for students into Koha using their SCMS id/password. |
| 13:43 | vfernandes | 099$c date-entered-on-file |
| 13:43 | but no results obtain :/ | |
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| 13:44 | ArunRV | What's the best way to achieve this, please? |
| 13:44 | I am thinking we have to write some code to link the SCMS (which is in Rails) and Koha? | |
| 13:44 | jcamins_away | ArunRV: you could use LDAP, but it's not going to be simple. |
| 13:45 | I believe there's also support for SSO in process, but, again, it's probably not going to be a particularly easy thing to set up. | |
| 13:45 | magnuse | biblibre is working on shibboleth, i think? |
| 13:45 | at least i think that is sso... | |
| 13:46 | jcamins_away | Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. |
| 13:46 | I just couldn't remember exactly who was doing it. | |
| 13:47 | ArunRV | We had a similar situation with Moodle. The way we got around that was to figure out where users/passwords etc. are created/set in Moodle, and write hooks that basically updated Moodle DB whenever data was entered into our SCMS |
| 13:48 | AM I right in saying that all Koha code is (in a standard installation) present in /usr/share/koha? | |
| 13:48 | jcamins_away | Yes, but don't make any code changes in a standard installation. |
| 13:49 | You should use git if you're doing any code customizations. | |
| 13:49 | git? | |
| 13:49 | wahanui | git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 13:49 | jcamins_away | ^^ see that document. |
| 13:50 | ArunRV | Ouch. |
| 13:50 | We didn't install it via git - I think we just downloaded the tar.gz file (if I'm not wrong), and followed the instructions on the koha website. | |
| 13:51 | Would it be OK to create our own local repository of Git and push /usr/share/Koha to it, and modify it from there? | |
| 13:54 | slef | ArunRV: not as easy, but it's OK for you to do whatever you like, sweetie ;) |
| 13:54 | ArunRV: but if you break it, you get to keep both pieces ;) | |
| 13:54 | ArunRV | *gulp* |
| 13:58 | Well, we do have a development installation of Koha - I will play around with it there and see how it goes. | |
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| 14:15 | mbalmer | we (swiss kohaistas) discussed printing to epson thermal line printers in Unix/Linux environments (for which EPSON does not provide printer drivers). |
| 14:17 | Oak | sweetie? slef? |
| 14:19 | :) okay time to go... be back in 2 hours God willing. | |
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| 14:29 | GWolverton_ | what is the preferred method of running zebrasrv? |
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| 14:33 | ArunRV | Hello all. An issue with a fresh install of koha: when a user logs into the OPAC, they get this error: Date::Calc::PP::Add_Delta_Days(): Date::Calc::Add_Delta_Days(): not a valid date at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-user.pl line 115 |
| 14:33 | Seems to be the same as this prioblem: http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]12-01-19#i_871714 | |
| 14:34 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6978 seems relevant - any idea how to fix this? | |
| 14:38 | wizzyrea | what version of koha? |
| 14:39 | ArunRV | 3.6 |
| 14:39 | koha-3.06.04 | |
| 14:41 | I am guessing it's some configuration issue. | |
| 14:42 | wizzyrea | is your date preference set to ISO? |
| 14:42 | ping kf | |
| 14:44 | ArunRV | Ah. Where do I set this, please? I couldn't readily find it in Administration -> System Preferences |
| 14:45 | My apologies - relatively new to Koha. | |
| 14:45 | wizzyrea | :) sok |
| 14:45 | sec | |
| 14:46 | the pref is "dateformat" and it's under I18n/L10N preferences | |
| 14:46 | ArunRV | Thanks! 1 sec. |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | but I wonder if - since kf reported a similar issue, if it is in fact sample data related. |
| 14:47 | I assume your fresh install used at least some of the sample data | |
| 14:47 | possibly your patron doesn't have an expiry date? | |
| 14:50 | slef | wizzyrea: "e's gone orf" |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | ah well. |
| 14:50 | ArunRV | I set it to yyyy/mm/dd |
| 14:51 | still the same error. | |
| 14:51 | :-( | |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | then I bet it's data |
| 14:51 | make sure you have an expiry date set for your patron? | |
| 14:51 | ArunRV | ok.. lemme try that. |
| 14:51 | 1 sec. | |
| 14:51 | (quite a few secs, actually..:-) | |
| 14:55 | narciagrcia | Does someone know which is the difference for MARC between 952.y (Koha item type) and 942.c (itemtype) ? |
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | hehe is np |
| 14:55 | narciagrcia | (MARC21) |
| 14:56 | And for Koha? | |
| 14:58 | Does Koha use the configured item types for the field 952.y, for 942.c or for any of them? | |
| 14:58 | ArunRV | Thanks for waiting. Maybe this is a case of RTFM, but the problem seems to happen when I try to log into OPAC using the admin account - is this a valid thing to try? |
| 14:58 | No problem with other logins. | |
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| 15:00 | narciagrcia | When I try to login OPAC with the installation admin account, I get "Software error" |
| 15:01 | ArunRV | And I can't seem to set the expiry date for admin. Not sure if this is even possible - don't know if the admin is a patron in the koha world. |
| 15:01 | narciagrcia | I suppose that it cannot be done, but the software doesn't expect this circumstance. |
| 15:01 | I feel that only patrons can login to OPAC. | |
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | ohh, ArunRV don't log in with the admin user. Create a new staff user and give that user superlibrarians |
| 15:02 | only log in with the admin user for upgrades. | |
| 15:02 | narciagrcia | installation admin account seems to be hardcoded apart, and it's not a patron. |
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | strange things happen with the admin user |
| 15:02 | ^^ what narciagrcia | |
| 15:02 | ArunRV | Right. My bad. Won't login as admin user from now on. Lesson learned. |
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 15:03 | ArunRV | Thanks! |
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| 15:03 | narciagrcia | Except for upgrades, superlibrarians can do everything that does the admin? |
| 15:03 | wizzyrea | it's on the table to fix that - create a separate admin user at install time. |
| 15:03 | narciagrcia: exactly. | |
| 15:04 | narciagrcia | I was doing everything with the current admin account. |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | the admin user should be used exactly once - to log in and define first library, create first patron category, with the goal of creating another superlibrarian. |
| 15:04 | then you log out, and log back in as that user. :) | |
| 15:05 | it doesn't *hurt* anything to use the admin user, but operations that require, say, an expiry date or a branch defined won't work with the admin user. | |
| 15:05 | narcisgarcia | The difficult for this is that installer people walks a large path before finding the users creation, its categories and permissions. |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | yep, it's a problem, there's a push to fix it. |
| 15:06 | mostly because we don't create a default library, we offer the *option* to | |
| 15:06 | which I think is weird. | |
| 15:06 | so some people think they'll be clever and not install the default library, then struggle. | |
| 15:06 | narcisgarcia | The web installation wizard is too short. |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | yep http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ller_improvements |
| 15:07 | narcisgarcia | I installed a lot of optional components, but I didn't know about any superlibrarian registered. |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | no, none of that happens now it's all proposed. |
| 15:07 | narcisgarcia | (and I only have seen the patrons I registered manually) |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | you create a super librarian by going to the patron detail |
| 15:08 | click more -> permissions -> check "superlibrarian" | |
| 15:08 | save it | |
| 15:08 | log out, log in as that user. | |
| 15:11 | creating a superlibrarian? | |
| 15:11 | wahanui | Create a new user with login/password, and go to more -> permissions -> and check "superlibrarian." Click save. Then log out and back in with that user. |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | using the admin account? |
| 15:11 | wahanui | don't use the admin account. Create a new user with login/password, and go to more -> permissions -> and check "superlibrarian." Click save. Then log out and back in with that user. |
| 15:12 | ArunRV | Thanks wizzyrea and narcisgarcia. You've been of great help! |
| 15:12 | wizzyrea | yvw. :) |
| 15:12 | (I was just teaching the bot these things so I don't have to keep typing it over and over) | |
| 15:19 | narcisgarcia | Is it possible to customize links in the home page for librarians? For example "Add item with default framework" |
| 15:22 | wizzyrea | yea, there are a couple of ways to handle that |
| 15:22 | 1. create a link in the header using the system preference "intranetnav" | |
| 15:22 | 2. create a link in the footer using "intranetfooter" | |
| 15:23 | 3. create a link in a news item, and display that on the home page of the intranet. | |
| 15:23 | 4. use jquery to add it to the list of items currently there. | |
| 15:23 | (4 will be a less beautiful option in 3.8, however) | |
| 15:24 | narcisgarcia | I prefer first option (header) |
| 15:24 | wizzyrea | yup, that's probably what I'd do too. |
| 15:24 | that or a news item. | |
| 15:28 | narcisgarcia | Ok, works perfectly with only an HTML <a> tag. |
| 15:29 | wizzyrea | oh sorry there's no intranetfooter, there's intranetmainuserblock |
| 15:30 | which reminds me I should see what that looks like in 3.9 | |
| 15:30 | 3.8 | |
| 15:30 | well, 3.9 I guess now >.> | |
| 15:31 | not so bad really: http://screencast.com/t/Ns9Iqeynhun | |
| 15:31 | pretty good :) | |
| 15:40 | oleonard | Surprise 3-hour meeting! But I'm back now. |
| 15:40 | wizzyrea | yay oleonard |
| 15:41 | if you have a minute, look over 7998 for obvious stupidity? | |
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| 15:41 | wizzyrea | i'm not as superpro as you are :) |
| 15:42 | and I have a few more things that I've since fixed. | |
| 15:42 | other things | |
| 15:43 | edveal | Anyone have a quick and easy way to change the default search from keyword "Library Catalog" to "Title" |
| 15:44 | I would rather not build a custom search bar... | |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | there might be one in the jquery library that does that |
| 15:44 | kf | edveal: but title is wrong? |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | I can't remember |
| 15:44 | edveal | I didn't see it but I could have missed it. |
| 15:44 | kf | edveal: what about keyword? that would make it the same as on the advanced search |
| 15:44 | and yes, I think you can do it with jquery | |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | something about using jquery to pick a different default |
| 15:45 | edveal | This is a work around for apostrophe bug |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | apostrophe bug? |
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| 15:46 | oleonard | Try this: $("#masthead_search option[value='ti']").attr("selected","selected"); |
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| 15:55 | oleonard | who's got a demo running master? |
| 15:55 | kf | edveal: ok, I misunderstood :( I thought you wanted to change the label - that's what one of my libraries asked for - sorry |
| 15:55 | oleonard: magnuse - but it's normarc :) | |
| 15:55 | edveal | oleonard thanks |
| 15:57 | wizzyrea | hm bywater's is out of date... |
| 15:58 | so is equinox's | |
| 15:58 | libriotech is running 3.8 | |
| 16:01 | slef | I must move our demo to a new server. I've a semi-private demo running master if you can edit /etc/hosts oleonard |
| 16:02 | oleonard | It's no big deal slef, if you want to keep it private |
| 16:02 | Thanks | |
| 16:02 | slef | it's mainly because it's for our testing |
| 16:03 | so it's just not in DNS... not really very private | |
| 16:03 | else it would be on the VPN | |
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| 16:05 | narcisgarcia | I've made a framework with fields 000, 020.a, 100.a, 245.a, 300.a, 300.c, 440.v, 520.a, 856.u, 942.c, 952.1, 952.4, 952.5, 952.7, 952.a, 952.b, 952.c, 952.d, 952.e, 952.t, 952.v, 952.y but when I use it to "add MARC record", I really see the fields 000, 020.a, 082.2, 082.6, 082.8, 082.a, 082.b, 100.a, 245.a, 300.a, 300.c, 440.v, 520.a, 856.u and no more. |
| 16:07 | Why Koha adds the 082.* and hides 952.* ? | |
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| 16:13 | narcisgarcia | 082 is "DEWEY DECIMAL CLASSIFICATION NUMBER" |
| 16:15 | slef | 952 is item-level data, set in Items pages, not in bibliographic record editing |
| 16:16 | but you might be able to control some of it through hide/show options in the framework editor... sorry I don't have time to look now. | |
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| 16:22 | narcisgarcia | 082 can have any relation with the value in itemcallnumber ? |
| 16:24 | kf | yes |
| 16:24 | check system preference itemcallnumber | |
| 16:24 | it can be used as a suggestion when cataloging items | |
| 16:25 | narcisgarcia | it has "082ab", but the framework shows 082ab268 |
| 16:25 | (subfields 2 6 8 a b) | |
| 16:25 | kf | you can try adding more subifields, but not sure it will take all of them into account |
| 16:26 | bye all | |
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| 16:37 | gaetan_B | bye #koha! |
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| 16:58 | ArunRV | Hello I am trying to understand Koha codebase related to creating/updating patron information. Could someone more familiar with the codebase and perl please point me to the location where the patron data is actually saved to the DB in members/memberentry.pl? |
| 16:59 | oleonard | Revised (again) fix for Bug 4048 now available |
| 17:00 | jwagner | ArunRV, most patron information is in the borrowers table. There are some related tables for messaging preferences, permissions, etc. |
| 17:01 | ArunRV | I can see that there is some data sanity checks happening followed by a template output - the code also has an unused $dbh variable. But where is the call to the DB actually made? |
| 17:02 | cait | ArunRV: I suspet somewhere in the C4 module for patrons |
| 17:02 | jwagner | Probably Members.pm |
| 17:02 | oleonard | ArunRV: I assume memberentry.pl calls a function in C4/Members.pm |
| 17:02 | cait | ^^ :) |
| 17:03 | ArunRV | Thanks jwagner, cait and oleonard - will take a look again! |
| 17:03 | cait | ArunRV: what are you trying to do? |
| 17:04 | ArunRV | Well. We have a school campus managmheent system - I want to synchronize the user information between that and Koha. LDAP is not an option since the system doesn't support it. My only option is to write some code to hook koha and the scms. |
| 17:05 | cait | have you checked if you could perhaps use the patron import tool` |
| 17:05 | ? | |
| 17:06 | i am not sure if there is a command line script for that yet - but it allows matching on a cardnumber or other id | |
| 17:08 | ArunRV | I just googled patron import tool - ideally, the synchronization should not be a one time affair. If a student updates his/her password on the SCMS, it should get reflected in Koha as well. |
| 17:09 | jwagner | You might investigate SIP protocols -- I don't know if there is anything that would allow changing patron data, but there are already some routines in Koha that might be expanded. |
| 17:12 | ArunRV | If there's no ready made solution that caters precisely to this scenario, I'd rather write a small script to do the synching - this was fairly straightforward with Moodle. Was hoping it'd be the same for Koha. :-) |
| 17:14 | cait | ArunRV: yes, you could reimport the data every night |
| 17:14 | ArunRV: the interface for the koha patron import is in the tools menu | |
| 17:15 | ArunRV | Hmm.. I think that could work. Does the import feature allow updating records as well? |
| 17:16 | cait | yes |
| 17:16 | you match on a unique elment - cardnumer or something you have defined in patron attributes to be unique | |
| 17:16 | and tell it what to do when it finds a match - overlay or ignore | |
| 17:17 | ArunRV | That's great! I could simply import precisely the changed record when the update happens on the SCMS. WIll take a look at how it's done. |
| 17:17 | Thanks a lot for pointing this out. | |
| 17:18 | cait | ArunRV: not sure how good iw tould work for you - but it's perhaps worth checking out :) |
| 17:37 | pastebot | "chris_n" at 63.162.197.228 pasted "cron-style patron imports" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/365 |
| 17:37 | chris_n | ArunRV: ^^^ |
| 17:37 | those are few lines from an automated patron import script I wrote some years ago for a client | |
| 17:38 | it should be enough to give you a few ideas of what is possible w/o munging up the core code | |
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| 17:47 | chris_n | bug 8000 |
| 17:47 | wahanui? | |
| 17:47 | wahanui | yes, chris_n? |
| 17:47 | chris_n | bugs? |
| 17:47 | wahanui | bugs is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org. Please fix any bugs you find. :) or reporting them is helpful, too. |
| 17:47 | * chris_n | pokes gmcharlt |
| 18:10 | ArunRV | Thanks, chris_n - will take a look. |
| 18:10 | Bye everyone. Thanks for all the help. :-) | |
| 18:17 | oleonard | anyone else tried the offline circ tool lately? |
| 18:17 | It was working for me a couple of months ago and now it isn't | |
| 18:30 | Software error: Usage: Date::Calc::check_date(year, month, day) at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/Members.pm line 462. | |
| 18:33 | Looks like it comes from having borrowers.debarred = 1 (instead of a date I presume?) | |
| 18:41 | Rhubarb rhubarb fatal circulation error rhubarb rhubarb | |
| 18:41 | * oleonard | keels over dead |
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| 18:41 | jcamins_away | oleonard: that seems like a big problem. |
| 18:41 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 18:42 | jcamins_away | Was debarred boolean until fairly recently? |
| 18:42 | oleonard | Until not so recently |
| 18:42 | So something must have happened since to upset things | |
| 18:42 | * oleonard | will git bisect |
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| 18:54 | chris_n | jcamins_away: did you get your picture hung? |
| 18:55 | hdl joined #koha | |
| 18:55 | * chris_n | hands hdl some glue |
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| 18:56 | jcamins_away | chris_n: I did not yet, alas. |
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| 18:56 | jcamins_away | This afternoon I'll buy more nails. |
| 18:56 | chris_n | hmm tons of netsplits |
| 18:56 | jcamins_away | And picture wire, since a couple of our pictures don't have picture wire. |
| 18:57 | * chris_n | will add picture rail when remodeling three rooms w/ 12' ceilings in his house |
| 18:57 | chris_n | and then hang lots of nice pictures :) |
| 18:58 | * chris_n | wonders why jquery's unbind method does not... |
| 18:58 | jcamins_away | That's a good idea. |
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| 19:20 | mveron | Good evening #koha |
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| 19:28 | mbalmer | grumblings.. |
| 19:35 | does Perl's IO:Socket support IPv6 ? | |
| 19:35 | rangi | Morning |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea | hey rangi |
| 19:36 | jcamins_away | Morning. |
| 19:36 | wahanui | morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
| 19:37 | mveron | Good day- or nighttime, everybody around the world :-) |
| 19:37 | * rangi | is still suffering from stupid headaches but is gonna try work anyway |
| 19:37 | wizzyrea | :((( |
| 19:37 | mbalmer | cats are evil.. |
| 19:37 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 19:37 | !! | |
| 19:37 | mbalmer | <- allergic |
| 19:37 | wizzyrea | jcamins has a hypoallergenic cat. |
| 19:37 | jcamins_away | So are we. We have a wonderful hypoallergenic cat. |
| 19:37 | wizzyrea | and myshkin is adorable. |
| 19:38 | mbalmer | the /bin/cat on my Unix is non-allergic, too. ;) |
| 19:38 | wizzyrea | now, if they can make one that is hypoallergenic, has fluffy hair but doesn't shed/puke hairballs |
| 19:38 | I'd be in cat heaven. | |
| 19:38 | oleonard | "Whenever the cat wants breakfast" is an awfully expansive definition. |
| 19:38 | wizzyrea | as long as you're not keeping the cat in the bin, that's alright. |
| 19:39 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I would add "does his business outside" to that list |
| 19:39 | mbalmer | however, mveron and I discussed and a found a way to print to POS printers. we guess. email to devel@ tomorrow. |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | oh, and cat byproducts should not smell either. |
| 19:40 | * oleonard | makes a POS printer joke |
| 19:40 | mbalmer | in which hotel are most folks staying in edinburgh? |
| 19:40 | oleanard, go for it. I never heard a POS printer joke … ;) | |
| 19:40 | wizzyrea | POS also = piece of s*** |
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| 19:41 | mbalmer | yes, that far I am informed, but now for the joke….? |
| 19:41 | wizzyrea | never know around here which TLA's people are going to understand ^.^ |
| 19:41 | (and in what context) | |
| 19:42 | oleonard | TLAs like "TLA" |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | ^^ precisely |
| 19:42 | mbalmer | an SQL statements enters a bar and sees two tables… "may I join you?" |
| 19:43 | mveron | About Hotels in Edinborough, some of them ask £10 extra for 1 day Internet access :-( |
| 19:43 | * wizzyrea | rimshots |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea | ok that actually was pretty funny |
| 19:44 | rangi | I'm just gonna get a sim for my phone |
| 19:44 | And tether that | |
| 19:45 | mbalmer | mveron, so you pay 10 bucks and all you get is koha commit messages.. ;) |
| 19:46 | mveron, but we should slowly start to find a hotel… or else we will be bridgeing.. | |
| 19:46 | jcamins_away | Apparently Pollock still had rooms as of a few days ago. |
| 19:47 | (they're dorm rooms, but perfectly acceptable ones) | |
| 19:48 | mveron | Thanks, jcamins, will have a look. |
| 19:48 | rangi | Yep olugbenga is staying there |
| 19:48 | * mbalmer | envisions mveron staying in a students dorm... |
| 19:49 | jcamins_away | rangi: that's how I knew. |
| 19:49 | I lived a bit further south. | |
| 19:49 | (than Pollock) | |
| 19:49 | It's a very pleasant walk up to Old Town. | |
| 19:50 | mbalmer | I will ask the queen if we can stay at the castle, after all we host the second best know military tatoo in Basel, right, mveron? |
| 19:51 | mveron | Does the castle belong to the queen? I think her residence is near the Parliament building? |
| 19:52 | rangi | Bbiab |
| 19:52 | mbalmer | I will ask her for exact directions. |
| 19:52 | jcamins_away | mveron: presumably it's state-owned, but you are correct, the Palace is where she lives. |
| 19:53 | mveron | Ok, thanks for the clarification. |
| 19:53 | jcamins_away | ("it" being the castle) |
| 19:54 | I don't think there's a private conservancy, because I'm pretty sure they share a membership scheme with the other national monuments. | |
| 19:54 | mbalmer | did you guys know that the winning entry for the best joke was selected in edinburgh? There was a joke festival there. Dunno the name, but the joke is nice. |
| 19:55 | "I had to choose a password of at least eight characters, so I chose snow white and the seven dwarfs" | |
| 19:59 | oleonard | Can someone please try editing a patron in master and setting the 'restricted' flag with no date? |
| 20:00 | wizzyrea | sure |
| 20:00 | works for me | |
| 20:01 | oleonard | Ah, I see the problem. I should have checked this first. |
| 20:02 | | debarred | tinyint(1) | YES | | NULL | | | |
| 20:02 | borrowers.debarred should be a date now eh? | |
| 20:03 | wizzyrea | what problem were you having? |
| 20:03 | because either I did it wrong, or I'm not seeing your issue | |
| 20:04 | jcamins_away | oleonard: probably another error in kohastructure.sql, since you did a new installation. |
| 20:04 | wizzyrea | oh good point |
| 20:04 | oleonard | I think rather an import of an older-version borrowers table because kohastructure.sql looks correct |
| 20:04 | wizzyrea | also a good point. >.> |
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| 20:06 | jcamins_away | We should have an optional test to ensure that kohastructure.sql and updatedatabase.pl result in a database with the same structure. |
| 20:06 | * jcamins_away | will ponder how to do that. |
| 20:08 | jcamins_away | Okay, I'm calling it a day early. |
| 20:08 | So long. | |
| 20:08 | oleonard | Bye jcamins_away |
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| 20:17 | chris_n | heya cait |
| 20:17 | cait | hi chris_n |
| 20:17 | * chris_n | scrambles up some css |
| 20:18 | rangi | back |
| 20:19 | * chris_n | wonders if a 'delete all' option in the QOTD editor would be dangerous |
| 20:20 | * oleonard | would think so |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | well yea |
| 20:20 | perhaps name it more ominously "purge all quotes" | |
| 20:21 | cait | hi rangi |
| 20:22 | chris_n | it sure would save time if, indeed, one wanted to do such a thing |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | what about a "select all" checkbox with the option to delete all on that page |
| 20:22 | and the option to view outrageous numbers at once | |
| 20:22 | 500 or something | |
| 20:23 | cait | hm why not have a delete all with an alert? |
| 20:23 | chris_n | I was thinking of doing an alert thing |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | an alert thing would be fine by me |
| 20:23 | cait | I mean... limiting what people can do only because they can do it wrong |
| 20:23 | chris_n | that's what I do when deleting a single quote |
| 20:23 | maybe a double alert? | |
| 20:23 | cait | feels not right to me |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | WARNING WARNING WARNING you are deleting all quotes WARNING WARNING WARNING |
| 20:23 | cait | triple? quadruple? |
| 20:23 | chris_n | do you really, really want to |
| 20:24 | mbalmer | backquotes! |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | are you absolutely positively sure |
| 20:24 | chris_n | and then "do you still want to" |
| 20:24 | mbalmer | fwiw ;) |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | backflips! |
| 20:24 | fwiw. | |
| 20:24 | cait | cookies? |
| 20:24 | wahanui | Cookies are delicious delicacies |
| 20:24 | mbalmer | potatoechips! |
| 20:26 | wizzyrea | what, are we talking about things we could do/eat that might eventually hurt us? |
| 20:26 | is this jeopardy? | |
| 20:27 | cait | cookies can hurt??? |
| 20:27 | mbalmer | trying to avoid sleeping under bridges in edinburgh, actually. |
| 20:27 | * oleonard | waves goodbye to all |
| 20:27 | chris_n | bye |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | depends on your definition of hurt |
| 20:27 | mbalmer | gn8 |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | bye oleonard |
| 20:33 | * chris_n | heads off in search of cookies... very carefully |
| 20:36 | cait | heh |
| 20:38 | mbalmer | hotel booked. |
| 20:38 | mveron | The same... |
| 20:38 | mbalmer | heh, it is your fault, mveron! |
| 20:40 | mveron | Holyrood PAlace is big... |
| 20:41 | You get a room in an other part of the building... | |
| 20:57 | Good night #koha | |
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| 21:49 | eythian | hi |
| 21:51 | * chris_n | munches a snickerdoodle |
| 21:51 | rangi | yum |
| 21:52 | ronald | Hiya #Koha |
| 21:52 | chris_n | while waiting for the baked potatoes and chili to get done cooking |
| 21:53 | rangi | hi ronald |
| 21:54 | ronald | Good morning rangi:) |
| 21:54 | eythian | hello ronald |
| 21:55 | ronald | hey hello eythian |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | oh snickerdoodles, |
| 21:58 | i love those | |
| 21:59 | my favorite simple cookie | |
| 21:59 | there is something funny with perl include paths in ubuntu 12. will have to work that out. | |
| 22:00 | don't think it's koha tho, I think it's ubunut. | |
| 22:00 | ubuntu* | |
| 22:00 | eythian | hmm, I should probably build a 12.04 vm some time and test the packages there. |
| 22:01 | * wizzyrea | will probably do that here soon. |
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| 23:06 | * jcamins_away | joins the Ubuntu upgrade party. |
| 23:07 | jcamins_away | Well, I think I know why it's taking so long... everyone is downloading Ubuntu right now. |
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| 23:35 | druthb | o/ |
| 23:35 | rangi | hi druthb |
| 23:36 | druthb | hi, rangi! :D |
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| 23:47 | rangi | http://boingboing.net/2012/04/[…]rise-amendme.html <-- yuck |
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