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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: you'd have to ask ByWater, but if I had to guess, I'd say probably your serial subscriptions haven't been imported yet. |
| 00:00 | rangi | oh? |
| 00:00 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Okay. Thanks Jcamins! |
| 00:02 | jcamins | rangi: yeah... does the auth_finder plugin *have* to use Zebra? |
| 00:02 | I mean, right now it does, because it does searches, but could one, in principle, pass it an authid directly? | |
| 00:02 | I'm having some trouble following the blinddetail-biblio-search code to figure out what it does to get the heading inserted into the biblio record. | |
| 00:03 | rangi | hmm i really doubt i wrote that |
| 00:03 | jcamins | Also, I can't figure out the difference between blinddetail-biblio-search and detail-biblio-search. |
| 00:03 | rangi: aww, git blame accuses you of writing the templates, at least. | |
| 00:03 | rangi | i dont even know what those are |
| 00:03 | no | |
| 00:03 | i just converted them to template toolkit | |
| 00:03 | eythian | doing the template conversions |
| 00:03 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 00:03 | rangi | cjh and I did :) |
| 00:03 | jcamins | That's unfortunate. |
| 00:04 | Right you are. | |
| 00:04 | rangi | you;d have to go back to the .tmpl version |
| 00:04 | to find out who did it | |
| 00:04 | jcamins | doxulting? |
| 00:04 | rangi | search stuff, ive never touched |
| 00:04 | eythian | @later tell cait sure, just grab me some time when I'm online. |
| 00:04 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:04 | rangi | in any real way |
| 00:04 | jcamins | and toins. |
| 00:04 | Two names I've never seen before. | |
| 00:04 | rangi | toins was a student who worked at biblibre |
| 00:04 | eythian | @later tell cait or email me. |
| 00:04 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:05 | rangi | thats cvs days |
| 00:05 | jcamins | Yeah, auth_finder has an old feel to it. |
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| 00:29 | ElBrooke | hola! |
| 00:32 | magnus++ | |
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| 01:24 | rangi | ohh thats a good idea |
| 01:24 | the pacific island koha users group thingy | |
| 02:10 | jcamins | Any idea how to find out how many lines have been changed by a certain set of commits, total? |
| 02:10 | rangi | yup |
| 02:11 | jcamins | Yay! How do I do that? |
| 02:11 | rangi | diffstat |
| 02:11 | like this | |
| 02:11 | * rangi | has to find the foo |
| 02:12 | jcamins | Oh, cool! |
| 02:12 | Add --stat. | |
| 02:12 | rangi | yeah |
| 02:14 | --summary | |
| 02:15 | actually numstat is what i use | |
| 02:16 | check this out | |
| 02:16 | git diff --numstat v3.06.00..HEAD | |
| 02:16 | jcamins | Nice! |
| 02:17 | rangi | then you can use cut |
| 02:17 | or awk | |
| 02:17 | to sum columns | |
| 02:18 | jcamins | Yup. I added more than 5700 lines. |
| 02:20 | rangi | git diff --numstat v3.06.00..HEAD | cut -f1 | awk '{s+=$1}END{print s}' |
| 02:20 | * rangi | gets carried away |
| 02:20 | jcamins | Yes you do. :P |
| 02:22 | rangi | heh |
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| 02:40 | druthb | o/ |
| 02:49 | rangi | heya druthb |
| 02:50 | druthb | hi, rangi! :) |
| 03:28 | jcamins | How many countries does Koha have developers from? |
| 03:29 | rangi: your blog is down. | |
| 03:29 | rangi: no it isn't. | |
| 03:29 | rangi | heh |
| 03:29 | hmm i dunno even know, lots | |
| 03:30 | @later tell slef http://www.kohacon10.org.nz/about.html | |
| 03:30 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:31 | jcamins | Hmmm... at least... NZ, France, UK, AU, US, Mexico, Croatia, Germany, Spain, Italy, India, Norway, Poland, Hungary... |
| 03:31 | rangi | yup |
| 03:31 | jcamins | Okay, "more than a dozen" is accurate. :) |
| 03:31 | rangi | Ukraine |
| 03:31 | jcamins | Oh, yeah, there was someone from Russia, too. |
| 03:31 | rangi | switzerland |
| 03:32 | canada | |
| 03:32 | jcamins | Netherlands. |
| 03:32 | rangi | hmm i think argentina too |
| 03:33 | jcamins | Belgium. |
| 03:34 | rangi | yep |
| 03:34 | and portugal too? | |
| 03:35 | jcamins | Yeah, there was someone for Portugal. :) |
| 03:35 | *from | |
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| 04:18 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 04:18 | druthb | hi, Oak! |
| 04:19 | Oak | hello druthb :) |
| 04:23 | jcamins | Good night, #koha. |
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| 04:35 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag |
| 04:35 | druthb | Hi, Amit. :) bag's probably sound asleep; he's traveling this week. |
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| 05:03 | Amit_Gupta | heya druthb |
| 05:03 | druthb | :) |
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| 05:06 | cait | hi #koha |
| 05:07 | druthb | hi, cait! :) |
| 05:07 | cait | hi druthb |
| 05:09 | Oak | Guten Morgen cait |
| 05:10 | cait | hi Oak |
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| 05:15 | dgl-library | Hi #koha! |
| 05:15 | I have a question about custom call-number schemes… | |
| 05:18 | Is there anyone around at the moment who might be able to help me with that? | |
| 05:45 | I guess either nobody knows about custom call-number schemes or everybody's asleep or away at the moment……… | |
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| 06:13 | francharb | hello all |
| 06:15 | alex_a | hello |
| 06:15 | wahanui | que tal, alex_a |
| 06:20 | cait | hi francharb and alex_a :) |
| 06:20 | francharb | 0/ cait |
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| 06:22 | alex_a | hello cait |
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| 06:24 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
| 06:24 | marcelr | hi koha |
| 06:24 | hi magnuse | |
| 06:24 | magnuse | hiya marcelr |
| 06:28 | cait | hi marcelr and magnuse :) |
| 06:28 | marcelr: will you be in edinburgh? :) | |
| 06:28 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 06:28 | cait: yes | |
| 06:28 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
| 06:30 | cait | marcelr: great :) |
| 06:30 | marcelr | :) |
| 06:33 | magnuse | aaawww... |
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| 06:36 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:36 | vinod | hello koha users |
| 06:37 | how can i resolve search limit items availability on opac bcz it does not working in 3.6 | |
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| 06:48 | dgl-library | Hi, does anybody know which Marc field we should use for our local barcode number? |
| 06:49 | Or does it not go in the Marc record at all, and only in the item? | |
| 06:50 | magnuse | yeah, barcodes go in the items |
| 06:50 | vinod | 952$p |
| 06:55 | dgl-library | thanks |
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| 07:00 | julian_m | hello |
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| 07:10 | esofiane | Hello #koha :) |
| 07:10 | asaurat | hi! |
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| 07:15 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:16 | marcelr | kf: is there a list of papers for kohacon too? i saw the hackfest papers on the wiki |
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| 07:18 | samuel | hi everybody! |
| 07:18 | gaetan_B | good morning ! |
| 07:19 | hdl1 | hi |
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| 07:34 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #715 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 07:37 | kf | marcelr: I think slef will post one soon |
| 07:38 | marcelr | ok |
| 07:38 | kf | it's one of his action items from the meeting yesterday and not sure I have all of them |
| 07:38 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7962 - Cart missing from result lists <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]71032a7ef7a168730> / Bug 7354: Can't edit local use system preferences <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cb37c1a9fccdeeba7> / Bug 7528 - amount subtracting 1 cent <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]h=51b21b1b57e5861 |
| 07:38 | kf | morning paul_p |
| 07:38 | paul_p | 'morning kf |
| 07:41 | magnuse | kia ora paul_p |
| 07:43 | paul_p | kia ora magnuse. Magnus = did you have a look at sandbox 1 that is setup with bug 7979 (http://pro.test1.biblibre.com/, login test / test) ? |
| 07:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7979 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , New design for staff interface |
| 07:45 | magnuse | paul_p: i did, but it did not look like that when i checked |
| 07:45 | now it looks very cool, though! | |
| 07:45 | paul_p | magnuse => shift-F5 ;-) |
| 07:45 | slef | bleagh. hi all? |
| 07:46 | magnuse | hi slef |
| 07:46 | kf | hi slef |
| 07:46 | slef | wahanui: hi all? |
| 07:46 | wahanui | yeah, yeah, hello, hello. Now fix some bugs for me, please. |
| 07:49 | kf | slef: should abstracts go on the wiki page too? |
| 07:50 | slef | kf: Ultimately they should go on the main website. Up to you whether you put them on wiki page too or for now. |
| 07:51 | magnuse | paul_p: will that work on 7979 make it into 3.8? seems a pity to have to wait another 6 months for it... |
| 07:51 | paul_p | magnuse = agreed ;-) Yes, I WANT that in 3.8 ! |
| 07:51 | (and Gaetan/Adrien worked *very* hard to make it for today !) | |
| 07:51 | kf | gaetan_B++ and asaurat++ |
| 07:52 | hope they do some final tweaking tho :) | |
| 07:52 | there has been a lot of positive feedback | |
| 07:52 | and some minor things | |
| 07:52 | magnuse | yeah, gaetan_B++ and asaurat++ |
| 07:52 | paul_p | today, adrien will submit a new patch, with green a little bit darker & gaetan_B will write a wiki page to explain how that can be tweaked |
| 07:52 | kf | paul_p: cool :) |
| 07:52 | paul_p | (with intranetusercss syspref) |
| 07:52 | kf | paul_p: are you working on the blockers? |
| 07:53 | paul_p | (and he will also fix a </a> that should not be there = look at the code, in FF, you'll see a red </a> in circulation button) |
| 07:53 | kf | paul_p: not a lot of time left and I think we still need to do some serious testing :( |
| 07:53 | paul_p | kf yep, in a few minuts, once i'm done with this discussion |
| 07:54 | slef | paul_p: code is frozen over the weekend? |
| 07:55 | paul_p | slef yep (my wife is 40 this week-end, so I won't push anything). And i'm supposed to be in holiday next week, so i'll release on monday, but don't plan to push anything more |
| 07:56 | slef | huginn: did bug 1577 make it? It's very small but useful for non-English |
| 07:56 | huginn | slef: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 07:56 | slef | huginn: bug 1577 |
| 07:56 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1577 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , installer and language |
| 07:57 | slef | guess not :( |
| 07:57 | any blockers left to attack? | |
| 07:57 | * slef | asks bugs |
| 07:58 | slef | hrm |
| 07:58 | kf | slef: lots of bugs left I fear |
| 07:58 | slef | I thought there was a quick link in the footer, but there aren't any |
| 07:58 | marcelr | slef, kf: submitted some ideas for papers (in absence of a list ;) just let me know what you think |
| 07:58 | * slef | uses the reports system to get one |
| 07:58 | slef | 4 blockers |
| 07:59 | bug 7975 | |
| 07:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7975 blocker, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , can't use patron import |
| 07:59 | kf | needs a revert |
| 07:59 | slef | bug 6931 |
| 07:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6931 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , hardcoded insert incompatible with UNIMARC |
| 07:59 | slef | bug 7742 |
| 07:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7742 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , can't run overdue with fines report |
| 07:59 | slef | bug 6875 |
| 07:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6875 blocker, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , de-nesting C4 packages |
| 07:59 | kf | 6931 was filed as blocker, but never solved |
| 08:00 | it's old | |
| 08:00 | slef | kf: 7975 needs a revert? |
| 08:00 | kf | yeah |
| 08:00 | someone removed a function that patron import needs | |
| 08:00 | rangi did a git bisect and found it - the commit needs to be reverted and it shoudl work again then | |
| 08:01 | * slef | reads the BTS |
| 08:01 | slef | actually, I'll look at that in 10 |
| 08:01 | seems like a simple patch to do | |
| 08:01 | kf | hm there is also |
| 08:01 | bug 1807 | |
| 08:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1807 blocker, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, chris, Failed QA , ':' character blocks search ; search () give odd results |
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| 08:02 | kf | and I think we should fix 7855 |
| 08:02 | bug 7855 | |
| 08:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7855 major, P5 - low, ---, juan.sieira, Failed QA , Bug 7263 does not include maxlength field sets into a fresh install |
| 08:02 | kf | paul_p: I woudl ask you to push the not so nice fix and promise to work on marc21 templates for the next release |
| 08:03 | paul_p: there are other bugs that will require some work on all frameworks, this could be tackled all together | |
| 08:03 | paul_p: it will take lots of time to redo all templates in all languages - this is a fix that will not stop us from getting inconsistent | |
| 08:04 | * magnuse | added maxlength to the normarc frameworks |
| 08:04 | kf | magnuse: and your patch got pushed? |
| 08:04 | magnuse | kf: yup |
| 08:04 | kf: "will not stop us" or "will stop us"? | |
| 08:05 | kf | will stop us |
| 08:05 | magnuse | and did you mean templates? or framework sql files? |
| 08:05 | kf | framework sql files |
| 08:05 | magnuse | :-) |
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| 08:06 | kf | hi mveron |
| 08:06 | mveron | hi kf |
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| 08:24 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #715: UNSTABLE in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/715/ |
| 08:24 | * ian.walls: Bug 7016 Followup: Add new GetItemnumberForBiblio subroutine | |
| 08:24 | * gmc: bug 7016 further followup: clarify return of GetItemnumbersForBiblio | |
| 08:24 | * koha.sekjal: Bug 5374 [SIGNED-OFF] Followup: adds conditional check to unit test for late orders | |
| 08:24 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 5347: Followup: FIX 2 bugs in lateorders | |
| 08:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7016 blocker, P1 - high, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , CanBookBeReserved uses GetItemsInfo unnecessarily |
| 08:24 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7958 - Batch Item Delete Fails |
| 08:24 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7927 - library not showing on subscription full history anymore | |
| 08:24 | * veron: Bug 7528 - amount subtracting 1 cent | |
| 08:24 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7354: Can't edit local use system preferences | |
| 08:24 | * oleonard: Bug 7962 - Cart missing from result lists | |
| 08:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5374 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Update date/time last transaction (MARC 005) when saving biblio record |
| 08:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5347 enhancement, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , late order management | |
| 08:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7958 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Batch Item Delete Fails | |
| 08:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7927 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , library not showing on subscription full history anymore | |
| 08:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7528 critical, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Pushed to Master , amount subtracting 1 cent | |
| 08:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7354 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Can't edit local use system preferences | |
| 08:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7962 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Cart missing from result lists | |
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| 08:32 | magnuse | what made jenkins unhappy now? |
| 08:35 | "Table 'koha.ratings' doesn't exist"? | |
| 08:36 | kf | mveron: perhaps you want to change your git setting a bit - so it shows your full name on commits? |
| 08:37 | magnuse: perhaps he needs a database update? | |
| 08:37 | magnuse | or it's this: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Build/testReport/ |
| 08:38 | mveron | kf: Ok, need advise... |
| 08:38 | kf | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]l_some_parameters :) |
| 08:38 | I think it's the setting for user.name | |
| 08:39 | dgl-library | Hi everyone, which MARC field is used for paperback/hardcover/pamphlet etc? Would that be 007 PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION FIXED FIELD--GENERAL INFORMATION? |
| 08:39 | rangi | It's likely a db update needed |
| 08:39 | I'll do it when I get home | |
| 08:40 | mveron | kf: Thanks, done. Hope it takes the é in my last name. |
| 08:41 | kf | :) |
| 08:41 | mveron | I found a strange behaviour with rental charges |
| 08:41 | The very first time I checkout an item (with rental charge on item type) to a patron, the charge is not applied | |
| 08:41 | The second and third items are charged as appropriate | |
| 08:41 | So I have 3 checkouts but 2 charges only. | |
| 08:41 | Can anybody confirm? Known Bug? | |
| 08:42 | kf | not a known but |
| 08:42 | but sure sounds like a bug | |
| 08:42 | perhaps open a bug report? | |
| 08:42 | and make it a high priority | |
| 08:42 | I thik people will not like that ot be broken at all | |
| 08:43 | mveron | kf: OK, will do |
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| 08:44 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 08:45 | kf | hi drojf |
| 08:46 | drojf | hi kf :) |
| 08:48 | slef | dgl-library: I think it's 300 |
| 08:48 | @marc 300 | |
| 08:48 | huginn | slef: A physical description of the described item, including its extent, dimensions, and such other physical details as a description of any accompanying materials and unit type and size. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8] |
| 08:48 | slef | @marc 300 a |
| 08:48 | huginn | slef: Extent The number of pages, volumes, cassettes, total playing time, etc., of the described item. (Repeatable) |
| 08:48 | slef | @marc 300 b |
| 08:48 | huginn | slef: Other physical details Physical characteristics such as illustrative matter, coloration, playing speed, groove characteristics, presence and kind of sound, number of channels, and motion picture presentation format. |
| 08:48 | slef | bah |
| 08:48 | it's there somewhere | |
| 08:48 | marc21? | |
| 08:48 | wahanui | somebody said marc21 was at http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html |
| 08:49 | kf | slef: what are you looking for |
| 08:49 | ? | |
| 08:49 | @marc 084 | |
| 08:49 | huginn | kf: A classification number from a scheme not covered by one of the other number fields. The field should not be used for classification numbers assigned from a source for which a subfield $2 source of number code would not be assigned. (Repeatable) [a,b,2,6,8] |
| 08:49 | slef | mveron: what version? I'd not noticed that in recent 3.7 |
| 08:49 | kf: <dgl-library> Hi everyone, which MARC field is used for paperback/hardcover/pamphlet etc? | |
| 08:50 | mveron | slef:HEAD is now at 012c6df Bug 7902 - Adding Function to Check for Existence of Tables |
| 08:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7902 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Master , Adding Function to Check for Existence of Tables |
| 08:50 | kf | ah :) |
| 08:50 | mveron | slef:Version 3.07.00.049 |
| 08:52 | slef: Is there already a bug report about the rental charges thing? | |
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| 08:55 | slef | mveron: I don't know. I will retest in a bit. |
| 08:56 | mveron | slef: OK, I wait with a bug report and test here somewhat more as well. |
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| 08:57 | vinod | when multi copy of a book is checked out opac display no items available instead of number of available and checked out version 3.6 |
| 08:57 | but after runing the zebra it gives right information i.e total checked out and available | |
| 08:58 | it it necessary to run zebra all time bcz it will take much time if the record is much | |
| 08:59 | slef | vinod: you mean the rebuild_zebra.pl? |
| 08:59 | vinod: that needs to be run frequently with the -z flag to move updates from Koha to zebra. | |
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| 09:11 | slef | dgl-library: did you see the reply? |
| 09:11 | if not, see | |
| 09:11 | log? | |
| 09:11 | wahanui | log is at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/ |
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| 09:16 | dgl-library | slef: trying to find it |
| 09:18 | rangi | BD::mysql::db do failed: Can't create table 'koha.ratings' (errno: 150) at ./installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 5173. |
| 09:19 | foreign key constraint failing | |
| 09:19 | that will need to be fixed before release | |
| 09:20 | mtj | hmm, i'll take a look at that now.. . |
| 09:20 | * mtj | waves to the herd |
| 09:21 | * magnuse | waves to mtj |
| 09:21 | dgl-library | slef: not sure what the answer was… marc 300 or marc 084? |
| 09:21 | (and it would appear that huginn is a bot, right?) | |
| 09:22 | magnuse | dgl-library: yes, huginn is a bot |
| 09:23 | "Item floats" - that means it's currently on the shelf in another library than the one that owns it, right? | |
| 09:24 | rangi | mtj: it might be the test db that is making it fail |
| 09:25 | mtj | hmm, can you explain that more? |
| 09:26 | dgl-library | so the question was… which marc field I should use for "paperback" or "hardcover" etc. |
| 09:26 | and whether the same field should be used for "pamphlet" etc | |
| 09:26 | if anyone knows | |
| 09:27 | rangi | mtj: there might be some data in the test db causing it to fail, so you might want to check you can recreate the error first |
| 09:27 | magnuse | dgl-library: you could use item types |
| 09:27 | rangi | and i have found the issue that is making jenkins unhappy |
| 09:27 | mtj | yeah, ive spotted it to :) |
| 09:27 | $DBversion = "3.07.00.XXX"; ? | |
| 09:30 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fbc436e3cb557e021 | |
| 09:30 | rangi | bug 5347 |
| 09:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5347 enhancement, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , late order management |
| 09:30 | rangi | that test on there is failing |
| 09:31 | - gst | |
| 09:31 | + gstrate | |
| 09:32 | thats the change in the test, but the column is acutally gst | |
| 09:32 | patch on its way | |
| 09:32 | dgl-library | magnuse: so that's in the item and not the marc record? |
| 09:32 | mtj | ah, nice one chris |
| 09:32 | rangi | not ok 21 - This order has a gstrate field |
| 09:32 | # Failed test 'This order has a gstrate field' | |
| 09:32 | # at t/db_dependent/Acquisition.t line 82. | |
| 09:32 | magnuse | dgl-library: yes |
| 09:33 | mtj | paul_p: about? |
| 09:33 | dgl-library | magnuse: I see. Thanks. |
| 09:33 | paul_p | hi mtj |
| 09:33 | vinod | what is -z flag and how to run it is it same as zebra |
| 09:34 | mtj | paul_p: any idea on how to fix this line here... |
| 09:34 | rangi | paul_p: bug 5347 has a patch to fix the failing test |
| 09:35 | mtj | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2ff7db35ede#l4934 |
| 09:35 | magnuse | rangi++ |
| 09:35 | paul_p | rangi I was about to look at this problem, rangi++ |
| 09:35 | mtj | DBversion = "3.07.00.XXX" needs to be replaced with a version number |
| 09:36 | paul, w could give the 'rating' update the version of 3.07.00.048 ? (current number is 3.07.00.047 ) | |
| 09:36 | paul_p | mtj = I don't understand what you're talking about. in my master, i don't see any XXX. |
| 09:36 | mtj | s/w/we/ |
| 09:37 | paul_p | mtj = the rating IS 048 already |
| 09:37 | * paul_p | tries to understand... |
| 09:38 | rangi | mtj: nope its not that |
| 09:38 | paul_p | mtj http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6cc50ea5d;hb=HEAD |
| 09:38 | mtj | hmm 1 tic, i check again.. :/ |
| 09:38 | rangi | its .048 in master |
| 09:39 | vinod | what is -z flag and how to run it is it same as zebra please help |
| 09:39 | rangi | but when i ran updatedatabase on the jenkins server |
| 09:39 | i got a 150 error, which is mysql complaining about foreign keys | |
| 09:40 | vinod | is it any short cut which updates the index in a minimum time rather than runing zebra as a whole which takes much time |
| 09:40 | mtj | hmm line 4934 |
| 09:40 | rangi | ERROR 1005 (HY000): Can't create table 'koha.ratings' (errno: 150) |
| 09:41 | magnuse | mtj: could you be looking at the wrong version of updatedatabase.pl` |
| 09:41 | ? | |
| 09:41 | mtj | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2ff7db35ede#l4934 |
| 09:41 | rangi | yeah cos in master its line 5170 |
| 09:41 | mtj | i might ned a slap here... but it looks wrong to me?! |
| 09:41 | rangi | wrong commit |
| 09:42 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]191c193e92d9755a9 | |
| 09:43 | magnuse | mtj: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]database.pl#l5171 |
| 09:43 | rangi | its always best to check out master and look at it |
| 09:43 | gitweb is cool and all, but yuo can be looking at the totally wrong thing | |
| 09:43 | by accident | |
| 09:43 | i can confirm the error is not aht it doesnt run | |
| 09:43 | but that 1 of the foreign key constraints is failing | |
| 09:44 | either borrowers or biblio | |
| 09:44 | ill now try to find out which | |
| 09:44 | vinod | how to remove Limit to currently available items from opac bcz it is not working |
| 09:45 | mtj | oups sorry - i've got the flu, so more stupid than usual , etc |
| 09:45 | vinod | please tell me how to remove Limit to currently available items from opac bcz it is not working and gives no result in version 3.6 what to do??? |
| 09:47 | rangi | mtj: both in fact, but now to figure out why |
| 09:47 | mtj | vinod: try editing the opac template file? to remove the check-box? |
| 09:48 | rangi | does someone have a db they can test this on please? |
| 09:48 | dgl-library | magnuse: so you mean item field Y, Koha Item Type? seems like this is something more often found in MARC records, though, isn't it? |
| 09:48 | marcelr | mtj: is there a problem with koha.ratings in kohastructure.sql? |
| 09:48 | rangi | CREATE TABLE ratings ( borrowernumber int(11) NOT NULL, biblionumber int(11) NOT NULL, rating_value tinyint(1) NOT NULL, timestamp timestamp NOT NULL default CURRENT_TIMESTAMP, PRIMARY KEY (borrowernumber,biblionumber), CONSTRAINT ratings_ibfk_1 FOREIGN KEY (borrowernumber) REFERENCES borrowers (borrowernumber) ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE, CONSTRAINT ratings_ibfk_2 FOREIGN KEY (biblionumber) REFERENCES biblio (biblionumber) ON DEL |
| 09:49 | marcelr | what about timestamp timestamp ?? |
| 09:49 | reserved word? | |
| 09:49 | magnuse | dgl-library: different systems handle it differently, i think |
| 09:49 | rangi | yeah, doesnt seem to care tho |
| 09:49 | marcelr | without backtics |
| 09:49 | rangi | ie if i take out the constraints its fine |
| 09:49 | makes the table | |
| 09:49 | marcelr | ok |
| 09:49 | rangi | its failing on the foreign keys |
| 09:50 | but im not sure why | |
| 09:52 | marcelr | insert into ratings (borrowernumber,biblionumber,rating_value) values (1,100,1); works for me in master |
| 09:52 | slef | rangi: up for reviewing another paper? |
| 09:53 | marcelr | slef: did you get my idea? |
| 09:54 | rangi | marcelr: its the table create failing for me, that sql i pasted above |
| 09:54 | slef | marcelr: yes |
| 09:54 | rangi | slef: yep |
| 09:55 | marcelr | i ran the update and the table exists |
| 09:55 | with two constraints | |
| 09:55 | rangi | yep, but on jenkins it fails |
| 09:55 | marcelr | ok |
| 09:55 | rangi | so under some conditions |
| 09:55 | it fails | |
| 09:56 | marcelr | test data? |
| 09:56 | rangi | i have 51 borrowers and 21 borrowes |
| 09:56 | marcelr | invalid biblio or something? |
| 09:56 | rangi | shouldnt be possible |
| 09:56 | its primary key | |
| 09:56 | paul_p | rangi = when does it fail ? when you load kohastructure ? |
| 09:57 | mtj | it worked for me too ?! |
| 09:57 | * paul_p | don't understand what's going wrong |
| 09:57 | pastebot | "mtj" at 115.188.221.193 pasted "moof" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/351 |
| 09:57 | rangi | when i run updatedatabase.pl |
| 09:57 | or when i paste that sql in | |
| 09:57 | dgl-library | magnuse: thanks. what about keywords? I've been looking in the koha manual but I don't quite understand. if I have a book and I want to add many descriptive keywords, so that people can find the book via those keywords, where do I add those? |
| 09:57 | rangi | with error 150 |
| 09:58 | mtj | updatebase.pl create a 'ratings' table successfully with 2 fkeys |
| 09:58 | rangi | all borrowernumbers are unique, all biblionumbers are unique |
| 09:58 | and you have some borrowers and some biblio? | |
| 09:58 | paul_p | rangi = have you checked biblionumber & borrowernumbers are INT(11) ? |
| 09:59 | because the constraint can fail just because the fields don't have the same type exactly | |
| 09:59 | (and iirc, the error message is poor) | |
| 09:59 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5347' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9475f1eadc7a2c15b> / Bug 5347 Follow up, fix for broken test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]03d37efbc1bcb873d> / Bug 7726: explanation and options that were in the wrong order <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]?p=koha.git;a=com |
| 09:59 | rangi | yep, both int(11) |
| 09:59 | magnuse | dgl-library: that would be the 6xx fields in the bibliographic record - you can add as many as you want |
| 09:59 | mveron | slef: update to the rental charge glitch: If I change item-level_itypes to biblio record it behaves as expected. |
| 10:00 | kf | mveron: uh |
| 10:00 | mveron: not good | |
| 10:00 | slef | updated http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ohaCon12_Schedule |
| 10:00 | stole kf's work :) | |
| 10:01 | kf | tss :) |
| 10:01 | perhaps you soudl change the table heading then :) | |
| 10:02 | slef | ho ho |
| 10:02 | * slef | bugfixes that |
| 10:03 | kf | slef: do you have a better term for 'group reports' ? |
| 10:03 | slef: chris h/mix ? | |
| 10:04 | dgl-library | @marc 000 |
| 10:04 | huginn | dgl-library: unknown tag 000 |
| 10:04 | kf | slef: your list cuts of some titles I fear |
| 10:04 | rangi | mixed audience im guessing |
| 10:04 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #716 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #714 5 days 18 hr ago) |
| 10:05 | dgl-library | Does anyone know what to add for Marc 000 in records we create ourselves? |
| 10:05 | slef | kf: for sure. Some people wrote essays in there. |
| 10:06 | kf: rangi reviewed a great abstract for a 20 minute talk. He suspected reading the abstract out + questions = 20 minutes. | |
| 10:06 | @marc leader | |
| 10:06 | huginn | slef: unknown tag leader |
| 10:06 | slef | @marc ldr |
| 10:06 | huginn | slef: unknown tag ldr |
| 10:06 | slef | huginn: you suck |
| 10:06 | kf | slef: your list is confusing me :) |
| 10:06 | huginn | slef: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 10:06 | slef | kf: it confuses me too :) |
| 10:07 | kf | slef: not sure that helps my confusion :) |
| 10:07 | rangi | heh |
| 10:07 | slef | kf: what's confusing you? |
| 10:08 | kf | the abbreviations, the cut off titles |
| 10:08 | and that osmetimes there is a name and sometimes not | |
| 10:11 | slef: USING KOHA TO IMPROVE SERVICE DELIVERY IN THE EN - makes not much sense .) | |
| 10:13 | rangi | I ACCIDENTALLY THE WHOLE ABSTRACT |
| 10:13 | slef | kf: hrm. Let me find the rest of that one :) |
| 10:14 | kf: I don't want to put names for people that we may reject | |
| 10:14 | rangi | heh, i know who wrote this one |
| 10:14 | kf | slef: that' sok for me |
| 10:14 | paul_p | rangi= can you remind me the talk you've submitted for KohaCon ? |
| 10:14 | kf | only the list is really a bit shortened right nwo :) |
| 10:14 | paul_p: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ohaCon12_Schedule | |
| 10:14 | dgl-library | magnuse: thank you! |
| 10:14 | rangi | its all about the people |
| 10:14 | paul_p: thats my one | |
| 10:15 | mtj | ... good to see are still submitting papers for KOHA, too |
| 10:15 | ... good to see people are still submitting papers for KOHA, too | |
| 10:15 | slef | mtj: ENoNoun |
| 10:15 | KOHA :) | |
| 10:16 | Killed Off Hardworking Anarchy | |
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| 10:16 | dgl-library | @marc 600 |
| 10:16 | huginn | dgl-library: A subject added entry in which the entry element is a personal name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,x,y,z,2,3,4,6,8] |
| 10:16 | slef | Koksukkers Owned the Happy Archives |
| 10:16 | mtj | (should be quite a topical topic for KOHACon12) |
| 10:17 | heh, thats pretty good :) | |
| 10:17 | kf | slef: my coworkers came up with one too: Katrin ohne Ha |
| 10:18 | slef | Haar? |
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| 10:18 | kf | because I hate people spelling me Kathrin |
| 10:18 | slef | oic |
| 10:18 | can anyone remember if they reviewed the portuguese talk? | |
| 10:19 | kf | I think I did |
| 10:19 | mtj | although... 'killed off' might be a little premature :) |
| 10:19 | rangi | not me |
| 10:20 | slef | mtj: as far as they're concerned. |
| 10:21 | kf: did you suggest a comparison of Koha and other ILSes unicode handling? | |
| 10:22 | there are five talks awaiting review. Could we review them here right now? | |
| 10:22 | kf | slef: that doesn't sound familiar |
| 10:23 | slef | kf: ok I'll check my notes instead. |
| 10:24 | kf | slef: I responded to all talks you sent me |
| 10:25 | slef | kf: indeed. Maybe I sent it someone else. I was being lazy, not checking my notes |
| 10:25 | kf | slef: I am away for an hour now - I coudl help you later |
| 10:25 | or mail me more | |
| 10:25 | slef | my notes say it was Brooke |
| 10:25 | kf | I am done with my action items :) |
| 10:26 | slef | I may return here later, else I'll leave it until deadline. |
| 10:26 | rangi | reviewed the EDS one slef |
| 10:30 | slef | rangi: cool, thanks |
| 10:31 | rangi: what was my Reply-To on that? kohacon12@? | |
| 10:31 | * slef | loses the plot |
| 10:31 | slef | no, mjr@ |
| 10:31 | * slef | finds it |
| 10:31 | rangi | :) |
| 10:33 | * rangi | hits the hay |
| 10:33 | rangi | send me anymore you want slef and ill read them in the morning |
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| 10:35 | slef | rangi: you'll get some tomorrow I think. I need to do some paid work now! |
| 10:35 | thanks | |
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| 10:48 | slef | processed 4 registrations |
| 10:53 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 10:53 | Project Koha_master build #716: FIXED in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/716/ | |
| 10:53 | * paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 7785: Remove unused function columns() which uses a MySQLism." | |
| 10:53 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7922: Fixing typo in German sample news | |
| 10:53 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7845: Multiple 260s don't display properly in search results | |
| 10:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7785 trivial, P5 - low, ---, marc, ASSIGNED , Unnecessary MySQL-ism: C4::Members columns() |
| 10:53 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7833 - unique holiday link broken |
| 10:53 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7733 - HidePatronName not working on moredetail | |
| 10:53 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7371: Add 'cardnumber' as option for AutoEmailPrimaryAddress | |
| 10:53 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 3337 - RSS link is not correct for searches without results | |
| 10:53 | * oleonard: Bug 7828 - On circulation home page, URL to offline circulation Firefox addon should be a hyperlink | |
| 10:53 | * gaetan.boisson: Bug 7693 - clear screen button misaligned | |
| 10:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7922 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Fixing typos and improving translations in German sample data |
| 10:53 | jenkins_koha | * kyle: Bug 7950 - Typo for preference intranetuserjs |
| 10:53 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7726: explanation and options that were in the wrong order | |
| 10:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7845 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Multiple 260s don't display properly in search results |
| 10:53 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5347 Follow up, fix for broken test |
| 10:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7833 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , unique holiday link broken |
| 10:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7733 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , HidePatronName not working on moredetail | |
| 10:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7371 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , AutoEmailPrimaryAddress set to 'OFF' in new installs | |
| 10:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3337 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , RSS link is not correct | |
| 10:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7828 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , On circulation home page, URL to offline circulation Firefox addon should be a hyperlink | |
| 10:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7693 minor, P5 - low, ---, gaetan.boisson, Pushed to Master , clear screen button misaligned | |
| 10:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7950 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Typo for preference intranetuserjs | |
| 10:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7726 trivial, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout has columns in wrong order in sysprefs.sql | |
| 10:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5347 enhancement, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , late order management | |
| 11:10 | magnuse | woohoo! |
| 11:17 | jcamins | magnuse: when I try to view detail pages on semantikoha, I get an error. |
| 11:17 | And good morning. | |
| 11:17 | magnuse | that could very well be |
| 11:17 | and good morning | |
| 11:18 | jcamins: what's the error? | |
| 11:18 | ah i see it now, only or en, not nb-NO :-) | |
| 11:18 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 11:19 | magnuse | should work now |
| 11:19 | jcamins | So I guess it's not semantikoha, it's NORMARC with the language set to en generally? |
| 11:19 | Woohoo! | |
| 11:19 | magnuse++ | |
| 11:20 | magnuse | yay :-) |
| 11:23 | jcamins: no, it's something i messed up a bit in my installation... | |
| 11:23 | jcamins | Ah, good. |
| 11:23 | No need for an emergency patch, then. :) | |
| 11:25 | magnuse | nope, it was just a patch i applied locally that didn't quite work out |
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| 11:36 | vinod | is there any way to display drop down list for limiting the search by item type in first page of the search |
| 11:37 | just like in simple search we have option to select search by title author etc, can we have the items type also | |
| 11:37 | jcamins | jquery library? |
| 11:37 | wahanui | hmmm... jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/JQuery_Library |
| 11:38 | jcamins | ^^ if you look there, there's an example of adding options to the search dropdown. |
| 11:38 | vinod | ok thanks i will try |
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| 11:46 | dgl-library | LABELS… When I export a batch as PDF, it's unreadable by all my PDF reader programs. Is this functionality broken? |
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| 11:48 | kf | dgl-library: it hsould not be broken :( which version? and do you have unicode characters? |
| 11:49 | chris_n | dgl-library: it is most likely due to an encoding issue with one of your records |
| 11:49 | kf | if you open the file in a text editor, is there a readable message? |
| 11:49 | chris_n | you can open the pdf in a plain text editor and see what the error is |
| 11:49 | probably a wide-char related issue | |
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| 11:49 | kf | ah, chris_n is here :) |
| 11:49 | chris_n | hi kf |
| 11:49 | :-) | |
| 11:49 | kf | hi chris_n :) |
| 11:49 | wb asaurat :) | |
| 11:49 | chris_n | pass the coffee please |
| 11:49 | kf | @karma asaurat |
| 11:49 | huginn | kf: Karma for "asaurat" has been increased 21 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 21. |
| 11:49 | kf | :) |
| 11:49 | vinod | what is z-flag is it different from zebra |
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| 11:50 | chris_n | dgl-library: if that is the case, you will have to remove the offending record from the label batch |
| 11:51 | dgl-library | kf: and chris_n: you're right <h1>Software error:</h1> |
| 11:51 | <pre>Wide character in compress at /usr/share/perl5/PDF/Reuse.pm line 819 | |
| 11:51 | vinod | to update the issues /returned status from opac it is necessary to run zebra each time which seems difficult due to time taking with large database |
| 11:51 | dgl-library | what does that mean? we have a lot of characters with diacritical marks or accents |
| 11:51 | chris_n | dgl-library: that means there is at least one record you will not be able to print a label for |
| 11:52 | are you using non-latin chars? | |
| 11:52 | if so, it might be hopeless | |
| 11:52 | if not, it may just be an encoding-confused record | |
| 11:52 | vinod | please advice the short cut method so that after transaction status should be updated frequently without re building the index of whole data |
| 11:53 | chris_n | ie. it was MARC-8, but claimed to be UTF-8 or some such |
| 11:54 | vinod: there is no short cut method; you'll just have to run the index script via cron every X minutes or so | |
| 11:54 | dgl-library | hmm… when we set up our Z39.50 servers, we weren't quite sure about the encodings, so I guessed |
| 11:54 | could that be the problem? | |
| 11:54 | chris_n | dgl-library: uh-oh |
| 11:54 | yup | |
| 11:54 | plus some records lie about their encoding | |
| 11:54 | dgl-library | there are only Latin characters, but some sanskrit diacritical marks, like: Mahākāśyapa |
| 11:55 | chris_n: what's the remedy… and how do I prevent this in the future? | |
| 11:55 | chris_n | if the encoding is correct I think most latin chars and diacriticals will print ok |
| 11:55 | dgl-library: for starters, be sure that your z39.50 servers are set to the actual encoding of the records they supply | |
| 11:56 | vinod | but if we run frequently and user is loged on to the opac will it effect in holding books and other option |
| 11:56 | chris_n | as for fixing exiting records, I'm not sure... I have that problem with some records and have not yet been able to script up a solution :-( |
| 11:56 | jcamins | vinod: you don't have any choice. That's the way the system works. |
| 11:56 | dgl-library | chris_n: I used z-brary.com to find servers, but they don't list encoding. do you know any list that does? |
| 11:56 | * chris_n | has yet to meet a real-time zebra :) |
| 11:57 | magnuse | vinod: you need to run rebuild_zebra.pl with the -z option. -z makes sure only records that have changed are indexed each time |
| 11:57 | chris_n | dgl-library: no, but someone here or on the user's list may |
| 11:57 | dgl-library | chris_n: So I need to try and print every record individually until I find the culprit(s) and then re-import them from *scratch*? :( |
| 11:58 | jcamins | dgl-library: unfortunately, it's hard to figure out what encoding servers use. |
| 11:58 | chris_n | well.... probably for now |
| 11:58 | vinod | yes it is good, where is -z option and how to run it, i know zebra option only which indexed whole data, please tell me |
| 11:58 | * chris_n | needs to fix the code so that it dumps the bib number of the offending record in the error |
| 11:59 | chris_n | vinod: just add '-z' to your command line params |
| 11:59 | jcamins | What I do is first try utf-8, and search for records that I *know* have diacritical characters. If it works, the encoding is utf-8. If it doesn't work, I try MARC-8. |
| 11:59 | dgl-library | chris_n: that would be a good feature to add |
| 11:59 | jcamins | dgl-library: that was for you. |
| 11:59 | dgl-library | jcamins: where do you try that? new Z39.50 searches? |
| 11:59 | jcamins | dgl-library: right. |
| 12:00 | chris_n | dgl-library: I'm working on a css based labels tool which will fix most of those issues |
| 12:00 | jcamins | dgl-library: that won't fix existing records, of course, but at least you won't have the problem going forward. |
| 12:00 | * chris_n | looks around for that bag of spare time he misplaced... ;) |
| 12:00 | dgl-library | Does anyone know the encodings for Cambridge, Oxford… |
| 12:00 | * chris_n | heads out to teach algebra |
| 12:00 | dgl-library | chris_n: thanks and have a good day |
| 12:00 | jcamins | dgl-library: I do not, no. |
| 12:00 | vinod | please tell me here exact command pleae to run -z |
| 12:01 | jcamins | vinod: read the instructions. It explains all this. |
| 12:01 | It's in INSTALL.debian. | |
| 12:01 | documentation? | |
| 12:01 | wahanui | well, documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 12:01 | vinod | i have installed it with live cd 3.6 |
| 12:01 | jcamins | ^^ you also might consider reading the documentation. |
| 12:01 | dgl-library | jcamins: thanks, I'll try what you said. and I think there's some way to re-import info into an existing biblio record, isn't there? |
| 12:01 | jcamins | vinod: in that case it's already set up. |
| 12:02 | vinod | you r right i am new to system and simeltaneously reading lot of things |
| 12:02 | jcamins | dgl-library: yes, you can overlay by viewing a record in the staff client and choosing "Replace with Z39.50" (or something like that). I don't remember exactly what it's called, but I'm sure you'll see it. :) |
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| 12:11 | dgl-library | jcamins: thank you — let's hope it's not too many records! |
| 12:11 | Thanks #koha, bye all :) | |
| 12:11 | jcamins | dgl-library: it probably isn't. |
| 12:11 | Look for records that have diacritical characters in the title. | |
| 12:11 | dgl-library | jcamins: just in the title field? |
| 12:12 | jcamins | It'll be a problem anywhere, but there's a reasonably good chance that any record with a diacritical character is going to have it in the title. |
| 12:12 | And if you at least fix all the ones with non-ascii titles, you'll be able to print labels. | |
| 12:13 | dgl-library | jcamins: If I remove the title etc from the labels and only print call numbers, will that solve the problem, at least as a workaround? |
| 12:13 | jcamins | (and fix problems elsewhere as you find them) |
| 12:13 | Hmmm... I believe it will, but then you won't have titles on the labels. | |
| 12:13 | I'm not 100% sure. | |
| 12:14 | dgl-library | is it normal to have titles on the labels? (I've never set up a library before). we were gonna just go with call numbers, though then it might be a little difficult to ID which label is for which book (not quick labeling) |
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| 12:17 | jcamins | dgl-library: I've never seen titles on labels, but I figured there was a reason you wanted them there. ;) |
| 12:18 | dgl-library1 | ah… :) |
| 12:19 | it was part of the default setup :) | |
| 12:19 | anyway, maybe now we're onto a simpler solution… and I'll fix the Z39.50 problem going forward | |
| 12:19 | whew. | |
| 12:19 | thanks. | |
| 12:21 | ciao. | |
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| 13:01 | kf | asaurat1: I was being careful when doing the css change - perhaps it's ok to remove |
| 13:02 | asaurat1 | ok, doesn't look too dangerous =) let's do so |
| 13:02 | kf | :) |
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| 13:11 | chris_n | not_too_dangerous_changes++ :-) |
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| 13:29 | * chris_n | imagines datatables and jeditable replacing the current syspref editor |
| 13:29 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 13:30 | magnuse | that would be pretty! |
| 13:31 | libsysguy | @random i think we need to change the name of the string freeze to the slush date :p |
| 13:31 | huginn | libsysguy: Error: The command "random" is available in the Factoids and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". |
| 13:31 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 13:32 | jcamins | libsysguy: lol |
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| 13:40 | mbalmer | g'day (and always remove the backticks, hihi ;) |
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| 13:49 | jcamins | chris_n: did you add any new dependencies with the news editor? |
| 13:49 | chris_n | hmm |
| 13:50 | jcamins | Yep. |
| 13:50 | chris_n | not that I remember... other than the jeditable libraries which should be patched in |
| 13:50 | jcamins | DateTime::Format. |
| 13:50 | chris_n | hmm |
| 13:50 | * chris_n | thought that was in already |
| 13:51 | jcamins | Hmmm... maybe it wasn't required by C4::Koha before. |
| 13:51 | chris_n | I thought we had a conversation here about that last week or so |
| 13:51 | * chris_n | is losing his mind, however :) |
| 13:51 | jcamins | lol |
| 13:52 | Where does the quote of the day feature show up? | |
| 13:53 | Do I need to set a syspref? | |
| 13:53 | chris_n | http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]12-04-09#i_943175 |
| 13:53 | so I need to submit a patch for DateTime::Format | |
| 13:53 | jcamins: in tools | |
| 13:53 | opps | |
| 13:54 | on the opac main page | |
| 13:54 | there is a syspref under the opac section | |
| 13:54 | appearance section | |
| 13:54 | jcamins | No, "Tools" was the answer I wanted. ;) |
| 13:54 | chris_n | sorry |
| 13:54 | features section | |
| 13:54 | jcamins | :) |
| 13:54 | chris_n | QuoteOfTheDay |
| 13:55 | I probably should hide the tool if the QOD pref is not enabled | |
| 13:55 | gaetan_B | anyone wants to comment on my proposal for bug 7949 ? :p |
| 13:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7949 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , a different favicon for the staff client |
| 13:55 | * chris_n | wonders if everyone is running to get their new chromebook yet |
| 13:56 | jcamins | And you should hide the box on the OPAC if there are no quotes. |
| 13:56 | chris_n | jcamins: yeah, I was testing that right now |
| 13:56 | kf | gaetan_B: I have no installation to test - and can't the images from the patches |
| 13:56 | chris_n | also fixing up the editor when there are no quotes to say something intelligent |
| 13:56 | jcamins | @quote get 123 |
| 13:56 | huginn | jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 13:56 | gaetan_B | kf: i also attached an image to the ticket |
| 13:57 | in the .ico format, i guess you need to download it to see it... | |
| 13:57 | ah no you don't :) | |
| 13:58 | jcamins | Hm. There's a problem with the timestamp. |
| 13:58 | It isn't set. | |
| 13:58 | chris_n | yes, not in the sample data |
| 13:58 | kf | gaetan_B: had the wrong link :) |
| 13:59 | so staff is green and opac would be white? | |
| 13:59 | chris_n | jcamins: it is set once the quote is selected for the first time |
| 13:59 | or should be | |
| 13:59 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 13:59 | gaetan_B | kf: yes, the idea is just to have a different one by default for the staff |
| 13:59 | kf | I like the idea :) |
| 13:59 | jcamins | Cool, it works! |
| 14:00 | chris_n | so to summarize: |
| 14:00 | gaetan_B | kf: we have sysprefs for this but i think it's cool to have a different one from the start |
| 14:00 | chris_n | a. New depnd |
| 14:00 | b. fixup display when no quote | |
| 14:00 | gaetan_B | (i end up quite often with a handful of koha tabs open) |
| 14:00 | jcamins | gaetan_B: agreed. |
| 14:02 | chris_n: yup, that's what I've found so far. | |
| 14:02 | The dependency is libdatetime-format-mysql-perl. | |
| 14:05 | chris_n: And I'd like to have <span>s around the quote and the source. | |
| 14:06 | With ids. | |
| 14:06 | :) | |
| 14:06 | (in the OPAC) | |
| 14:06 | chris_n | jcamins: fixed the no-display when no-quotes |
| 14:06 | will add spans | |
| 14:07 | jcamins | And maybe the timestamp column should just be blank when it's not set? |
| 14:07 | chris_n | will do... do you find that confusing? |
| 14:07 | jcamins | A bit, yeah. |
| 14:08 | What about changing Timestamp to "Last shown"? | |
| 14:08 | That would clarify things. | |
| 14:08 | chris_n | that sounds better yet |
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| 14:14 | Oak | later guys |
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| 14:24 | datadoctor | Good morning! Or should I say "good evening?" |
| 14:24 | I'm entranced by the awesome new Koha staff interface. Very nice work! | |
| 14:25 | paul_p | datadoctor you can thank asaurat & gaetan_B ;-) |
| 14:25 | datadoctor | I love the colorful mouseovers. Thanks asaurat and gaetan_B! |
| 14:25 | Nice use of CSS gradients as well! | |
| 14:26 | asaurat | thx =) |
| 14:27 | gaetan_B | merci :) |
| 14:27 | datadoctor | The whole idea of a button-based menu makes this very accessible for ipad users, or touchscreen checkout. |
| 14:28 | jcamins | asaurat++ # for making sure overrides will work. |
| 14:28 | chris_n: the quote of the day looks great. | |
| 14:29 | (I've been poking around at it) | |
| 14:29 | chris_n | getting ready to push your spans now |
| 14:29 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 14:30 | A shame we couldn't import fortune files. | |
| 14:30 | ;) | |
| 14:31 | chris_n | you're fortune-ate to be able to do this much ;-) |
| 14:31 | jcamins | lol |
| 14:31 | chris_n | spans are pushed if you want to have a look now |
| 14:32 | fixing timestamp display | |
| 14:32 | datadoctor | Regarding the staff client, we use IntranetUserCSS to add a bottom margin of 6px to the unordered lists, to provide more visual space for the circ, acquistions and tools submenus. |
| 14:33 | Although buttoning them out like the main staff page might be even cooler! | |
| 14:33 | jcamins | Okay... I deleted all the quotes to make sure the box disappeared, and now it won't come back. |
| 14:34 | chris_n | hmm |
| 14:34 | I had that problem and thought my changes to the selection algo fixed it... :( | |
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| 14:35 | chris_n | I'll try it again in a moment |
| 14:35 | jcamins | wizzyrea: we're playing with chris_n's qotd feature. |
| 14:35 | It's pretty awesome. | |
| 14:35 | Well, I'm playing. chris_n is working. | |
| 14:35 | gaetan_B | datadoctor: yes some more works needs to be done to accomodate other lists, i think we will try to adress subpages now, but it's more complicated than the homepage :-/ |
| 14:36 | wizzyrea | oo yea |
| 14:36 | * jcamins | likes this development methodology. |
| 14:36 | * wizzyrea | is at a workshop thingie |
| 14:36 | wizzyrea | thusly it's harder to test things. :/ |
| 14:36 | but only a little :) | |
| 14:37 | chris_n | jcamins: changing the timestamp column header is no problem, but removing zero timestamps will require a bit of code changes |
| 14:37 | will changing the header work as a compromise? | |
| 14:37 | jcamins | chris_n: yeah, that'd help. |
| 14:38 | kf | chris_n: can't you use TT perhaps? |
| 14:38 | chris_n | hopefully zero==never |
| 14:38 | kf | to show something else when timestamp is nothing? |
| 14:38 | chris_n | kf: datatables does the table generation, so that would require some complication |
| 14:39 | more-so than doing it on the back end | |
| 14:39 | kf | ohok |
| 14:40 | chris_n | right now the data comes back as an arrayref which works nicely when we json-ize it |
| 14:41 | changing the TS field would require munging through a 2D array | |
| 14:41 | which might take more than the 5 mins I have :-) | |
| 14:42 | jcamins: header change pushed | |
| 14:43 | adding dep now | |
| 14:44 | jcamins | Much better. |
| 14:44 | datadoctor | QOTD? “It requires a very unusual mind to undertake the analysis of the obvious.” Alfred North Whitehead |
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| 14:46 | magnuse | jcamins: i'm on current master but can't find the tool to upload local images, what am i missing? |
| 14:46 | jcamins | magnuse: you don't have permissions? |
| 14:47 | magnuse | i'm suposed to be superlibrarian |
| 14:47 | yup | |
| 14:48 | chris_n | so where do I add deps for the package stuff? |
| 14:49 | jcamins | chris_n: debian/control |
| 14:49 | magnuse: hmmm... | |
| 14:49 | magnuse: is it enabled? | |
| 14:49 | slef | magnuse: tools/pictureupload.pl or tools/upload-cover-images.pl? |
| 14:49 | magnuse: tools/pictureupload.pl or tools/upload-cover-image.pl? (correction) | |
| 14:50 | BFI FTW :) | |
| 14:50 | FTW? | |
| 14:50 | wahanui | FTW is for the win |
| 14:50 | slef | BFI? |
| 14:50 | BFI is Brute Force and Ignorance | |
| 14:50 | jcamins | It's upload-cover-image.pl that's needed. |
| 14:51 | chris_n | jcamins: ok, new dep pushed; I'll double check on the no quote/add quote/no-show bug |
| 14:51 | magnuse | AllowMultipleCovers = allow, LocalCoverImages = display, OPACLocalCoverImages = display |
| 14:51 | jcamins: :8080/cgi-bin/koha/tools/upload-cover-image.pl looks good | |
| 14:52 | but i can't see the lnik from Home › Tools | |
| 14:52 | chris_n | I see the problem |
| 14:52 | magnuse | or the link, for that matter :-) |
| 14:53 | jcamins | magnuse: do you have local cover images enabled at all? |
| 14:53 | magnuse | is there a setting apart from the ones i mentioned? |
| 14:53 | jcamins | Oh, sorry, missed that message from you. |
| 14:53 | No. | |
| 14:54 | Okay, looks like a permissions issue. | |
| 14:56 | magnuse | gah |
| 14:57 | jcamins | Which is odd, because this used to work. |
| 14:57 | Didn't it? | |
| 14:58 | chris_n | jcamins: fixed, if you can pull and verify :-) |
| 14:58 | I think that addresses all of your suggestions/bugs? | |
| 14:58 | nothing like RTD | |
| 14:59 | jcamins | chris_n: yeah, that fixed it. |
| 14:59 | Very nice! | |
| 15:00 | magnuse | jcamins: it sure worked when i signed off on it... |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | oh - wasn't there a fix for the upload progressbar |
| 15:00 | maybe that did it | |
| 15:01 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I thought I tested that, though. |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | @search progress |
| 15:01 | chris_n | jcamins, wizzyrea: I had to do a force push to that branch after rebasing against master, so be warned :-) |
| 15:01 | huginn | wizzyrea: There were no matching configuration variables. |
| 15:01 | jcamins | It seems to be an issue with the CAN_user_tools_upload_cover_image permission. |
| 15:02 | magnuse | sounds plausible |
| 15:02 | jcamins | But how does a permission break? |
| 15:02 | magnuse | where is it supposed to show when i'm setting privileges for a user? |
| 15:03 | under tools? | |
| 15:03 | i can't seem to find it | |
| 15:03 | maybe an update failed? | |
| 15:03 | s/update/database update/ | |
| 15:04 | slef | @query progress |
| 15:04 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5847 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Manage Staged MARC Records stuck at 0% if isbn matching rule selected. |
| 15:04 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1971 enhancement, P3, ---, henridamien, NEW , Suggestion : Should have only one entry by title + a counter of waiting persons | |
| 15:04 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5670 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , Housebound Readers Module | |
| 15:04 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5153 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Patron Import tool does not show progress of upload | |
| 15:04 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5414 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , staged import dies silently if MARC::Record chokes on a too-large MARC record | |
| 15:04 | slef | wizzyrea: 5153? |
| 15:04 | and with that, I'll be back in many many hours | |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | bye slef :) |
| 15:05 | no, srdjan fixed it | |
| 15:05 | * magnuse | gotta run - happy hunting! |
| 15:05 | chris_n | jcamins: I can't find upload_cover_image permission in master |
| 15:05 | something must have been missed | |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | lost in a merge maybe? |
| 15:06 | it was in there in february | |
| 15:06 | early feb. | |
| 15:06 | chris_n | or ^^ |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | @query div0 |
| 15:06 | huginn | wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6372 minor, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Batch progress bar does not check for 0 size jobs; should be in separate js too |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | there it is |
| 15:07 | jcamins | CAN_user_tools_upload_local_cover_images permission. |
| 15:07 | Sorry. | |
| 15:08 | * oleonard | sees it |
| 15:08 | jcamins | Hm. I don't seem to be finding it in the code. |
| 15:14 | asaurat | bye! |
| 15:14 | oleonard | Bye asaurat |
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| 15:15 | julian_m | hi all, i just discover serials/serials-recieve.pl page, and saw that no templates at all make a link to it. does anybody knows if this page is still used? am i missing something? |
| 15:19 | jcamins | Isn't there a bug for a "did you mean"-type feature in the OPAC? |
| 15:20 | oleonard | I thought so |
| 15:21 | chris_n | ok |
| 15:21 | I see it: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7d1a7;hb=HEAD#l39 | |
| 15:22 | jcamins | chris_n: that looks right to me. |
| 15:22 | I forgot that the "CAN_user_tools_" bit is added somewhere in C4. | |
| 15:22 | chris_n | another C4 special ;-) |
| 15:23 | jcamins | So how come magnuse's installation doesn't work? |
| 15:23 | magnus_afk: do you have that permission in your database? | |
| 15:23 | chris_n | does his db have the permission |
| 15:23 | perhaps failed upgrade? | |
| 15:24 | reiveune1 | bye |
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| 15:24 | gaetan_B | bye #koha! |
| 15:24 | oleonard | Bye gaetan_B |
| 15:24 | jcamins | chris_n: yeah, that could be. |
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| 15:36 | kf | paul_p++ :) |
| 15:36 | paul_p | ;-) |
| 15:36 | kf | :) |
| 15:37 | paul_p: now I think I have only bug 3969 on my list .) | |
| 15:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3969 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Budget Search Doesn't Work |
| 15:38 | kf | hm and a couple of bug fixes waiting for sign off .( |
| 15:38 | jcamins | Can anyone find the bug for "did you mean?" suggestions? |
| 15:38 | kf | :( |
| 15:39 | jcamins: I am searching | |
| 15:39 | jcamins | I found a spell checker one from PTFS, but I thought there was one about authorities. |
| 15:40 | kf | jcamins: hm can't remember one for authorities |
| 15:40 | jcamins | Oh, okay then. Never mind. |
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| 15:47 | kf | hi mveron :) - small note - don't forget to set the status to 'signed-off' after attaching the patch :) |
| 15:48 | mveron | kf: Was not sure, was thinking that it should be done after the second sign-off |
| 15:50 | kf | mveron: one sign-off is normally enough :) after that 'signed-off' then qa team looks at it and sets 'passed qa' (or 'failed qa') |
| 15:52 | mveron | kf: Good to know, and don't know wher I had my mistake from. So 1 sign off would be enough for my age restriction thing... :-) |
| 15:52 | kf | yes :) |
| 15:52 | I have it on my testing list, but also changes strings, so probably will go into 3.10 | |
| 15:53 | but | |
| 15:53 | paul_p: remember to add mveron to history.txt ;) | |
| 15:54 | mveron | kf: Looking forward to 3.10... Can I help with the translations? |
| 15:55 | paul_p | kf: done, thx for the reminder |
| 15:55 | kf | mveron: anytime |
| 15:55 | mveron: do you have an account for translate.koha-community.org? | |
| 15:55 | there are still > 9000 :( | |
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| 15:57 | mveron | kf: Will ask you for the translations this evening or tomorrow, I'm testing now with the fines glitch I reported this morning |
| 15:58 | paul_p: Thanks! :-) | |
| 15:58 | * oleonard | wonders if there's something we could do to encourage more translation help |
| 15:59 | kf | hm |
| 15:59 | perhaps a reminder to the german transaltion list... | |
| 15:59 | but in general I think the problem is just that it's a lot to translate | |
| 15:59 | and it helps to know koha quite well | |
| 15:59 | because you don't have much context - a file name at most | |
| 16:01 | mveron | I just spoke to the librarians in our group, they could help with the Germen translations |
| 16:01 | kf | mveron: one problem we have is |
| 16:02 | that the help files got updated | |
| 16:02 | afte the po files were created | |
| 16:02 | so I waswondering | |
| 16:02 | if it would make sense to upload a new file | |
| 16:02 | I coudl do that tonight | |
| 16:02 | else we will translate... and retranslate for 3.10 | |
| 16:05 | mveron | kf:OK, just let me know when it is time to jump in. |
| 16:07 | * mveron | Oh, time is running... We have to go... |
| 16:08 | tcohen | hi koha, i'm testing a 3.0.6 (.src) -> 3.6.4 (.deb) migration |
| 16:09 | and get a nasty "Can't call method "delete"" ... error | |
| 16:09 | after doing koha-upgrade-to-3.4 and koha-upgrade-schema | |
| 16:10 | kf | on which page? |
| 16:10 | tcohen | login? |
| 16:10 | wahanui | login is test/test, it should be written on the wiki page |
| 16:10 | tcohen | staff intercafe |
| 16:11 | interface | |
| 16:11 | wahanui | interface is crap |
| 16:11 | tcohen | i never logged in this koha instance yet |
| 16:11 | and cannot find something usefull in the logs | |
| 16:12 | oleonard | wahanui: forget login |
| 16:12 | wahanui | oleonard: I forgot login |
| 16:12 | oleonard | wahanui: login is <reply> |
| 16:12 | wahanui | OK, oleonard. |
| 16:12 | oleonard | wahanui: forget interface |
| 16:12 | wahanui | oleonard: I forgot interface |
| 16:15 | hdl1 | login |
| 16:15 | whanui: login | |
| 16:15 | wahanui: login | |
| 16:15 | wahanui | hdl1: i'm not following you... |
| 16:15 | hdl1 | wahanui: login ? |
| 16:15 | wahanui | no idea, hdl1 |
| 16:15 | hdl1 | wahanui: login ? |
| 16:15 | wahanui | wish i knew, hdl1 |
| 16:15 | hdl1 | wahanui: login ? |
| 16:15 | wahanui | i don't know, hdl1 |
| 16:16 | kf | bye all :) |
| 16:16 | kf left #koha | |
| 16:16 | jcamins | sanbox login? |
| 16:16 | sandbox login? | |
| 16:16 | The sandbox login is test/test. | |
| 16:16 | sandbox login? | |
| 16:16 | wahanui | rumour has it sandbox login is test/test |
| 16:24 | jcamins | Is there any page that explains Koha's version numbering scheme? |
| 16:25 | oleonard | http://opensource.califa.org/node/266 |
| 16:25 | jcamins | Oh, LBA has a nice blog post explaining it clearly and succinctly. |
| 16:25 | Yes, that one. :) | |
| 16:26 | oleonard | Steal it for the wiki maybe? The manual too? |
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| 16:29 | jcamins | paul_p++ |
| 16:30 | paul_p | good morning jcamins |
| 16:30 | (is the ++ for the mail, the 7979 or the sandbox ?) | |
| 16:31 | jcamins | The mail. |
| 16:31 | wahanui | the mail is not understandable |
| 16:31 | jcamins | wahanui: it is too. |
| 16:31 | wahanui | ...but it is <reply> or automatically added... |
| 16:31 | oleonard | wahanui is a real bummer today |
| 16:31 | jcamins | lol |
| 16:33 | * oleonard | didn't even realize there was a generic INSTALL file always having looked for Ubuntu or debian |
| 16:34 | paul_p | which is a proof that there's something wrong ;-) |
| 16:34 | * oleonard | wouldn't know what instructions belonged in the generic one versus the distro-specific ones |
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| 16:35 | paul_p | Irma are you really here ? not sleeping yet ? or early awakening ? |
| 16:36 | * oleonard | 's INSTALL pet peeve is where it is suggested that users "roll your own :-)" zebra-handling method |
| 16:39 | jcamins_away | oleonard: does it really suggest that? |
| 16:39 | oleonard | It suggests that they can, which I think is superfluous |
| 16:39 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5c2c;hb=HEAD#l269 | |
| 16:40 | jcamins_away | I think that must be a joke. |
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| 16:52 | paul_p | bye #koha, see you tomorrow morning ! |
| 17:00 | oleonard | One of the Ubuntu INSTALL files says to cpan "Storable" The other doesn't. I don't see it listed in install_misc/ubuntu.packages |
| 17:00 | Should it still be mentioned? | |
| 17:00 | I don't recall having to install it manually in recent installations | |
| 17:04 | JesseM | @wunder 93109 |
| 17:04 | huginn | JesseM: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 18.1°C (10:04 AM PDT on April 19, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
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| 17:19 | * oleonard | doesn't care for the new dark green outline given to focused input fields in the latest iteration of Bug 7979 |
| 17:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7979 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , New design for staff interface |
| 17:21 | * oleonard | doesn't fancy talking to himself all afternoon either |
| 17:21 | bangs some pots and pans to make some noise | |
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| 17:24 | * gmcharlt | eases oleonard's loneliness |
| 17:25 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 17:25 | oleonard: you don't like it? or liked the previous version better? | |
| 17:26 | oleonard | cait: I think I liked the previous version better |
| 17:26 | * cait | offers gmcharlt and oleonard oreos |
| 17:26 | gmcharlt | cait: thanks! </botsnack> |
| 17:26 | * oleonard | refuses, having eaten too many today already actually |
| 17:26 | cait | oleonard: I think I liked the lighter color for the focused input fields - but not for the hover on the links |
| 17:26 | oleonard | gmcharlt: You seem like the kind of sharp fellow who might answer my question above about Storable |
| 17:27 | gmcharlt | oleonard: shoot |
| 17:27 | oleonard | One of the Ubuntu INSTALL files says to cpan "Storable" The other doesn't. I don't see it listed in install_misc/ubuntu.packages |
| 17:27 | Should it still be mentioned? | |
| 17:27 | I don't recall having to install it manually in recent installations | |
| 17:29 | gmcharlt: Also, what is your opinion on the idea to eliminate the .lucid INSTALL file and have only one for Ubuntu which presumes LTS version? | |
| 17:30 | gmcharlt | oleonard: checking re Storable |
| 17:31 | oleonard: Storable is provided by Ubuntu's base perl package, so no additional package is needed | |
| 17:32 | cait | @later tell paul_p can you consider pushing the second patch of bug 3969? witout it budget search does nothing at all - with the patch it will work. |
| 17:32 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:32 | cait | @later tell paul_p - and changing no strings - promise :) |
| 17:32 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:33 | gmcharlt | oleonard: re LTS, depends on who wants to maintain |
| 17:33 | Lucid itself is still an active LTS, just not the most recent one | |
| 17:34 | * chris_n | offers to take oleonard's oreos |
| 17:35 | oleonard | chris_n: The problem for both of us is that I ate all of them |
| 17:35 | gmcharlt | but if overall we have only the bandwidth to maintain install notes for the most current Ubuntu LTS, better do that well than to do both poorly |
| 17:35 | oleonard | gmcharlt: The instructions are almost identical |
| 17:36 | The major difference is 2.4 Install DBD::mysql Perl module in INSTALL.ubuntu | |
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| 17:47 | Morthland | How do I catalog multi-volume sets? |
| 17:51 | * cait | finds some more for chris_n |
| 17:52 | * chris_n | breaks out a fresh gallon of milk |
| 17:55 | Morthland | Does anyone catalog multi-volume sets? |
| 17:58 | oleonard | Anyone care to comment on the continued relevance (or not) of " 2.4 Install DBD::mysql Perl module" in INSTALL.ubuntu? |
| 18:00 | jcamins_away | Wait, has the newest LTS been released now? |
| 18:00 | I thought Lucid was still the most recent LTS. | |
| 18:02 | No, it is still the most recent LTS. | |
| 18:02 | Morthland | how can I check for records with no items? |
| 18:03 | jcamins_away | sql reports library? |
| 18:03 | wahanui | sql reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 18:03 | jcamins_away | ^^ there's a report there to do that. |
| 18:03 | Morthland | and how can I catalog multi-volume sets? |
| 18:05 | jcamins_away | Morthland: that's more of a cataloging question than a Koha question. |
| 18:05 | You can either add multiple items to a single bibliographic record, or have one bibliographic record per volume, depending on what standard(s) you're following. | |
| 18:05 | Morthland | ok |
| 18:05 | jcamins_away | It's up to you. Koha doesn't care. |
| 18:06 | Morthland | is there any way to distinguish between differing items in koha IRC? |
| 18:06 | sorry, | |
| 18:06 | Koha OPAC | |
| 18:06 | ? | |
| 18:06 | jcamins_away | Of course. You should describe them differently. Have you read through the Koha manual? |
| 18:06 | Manual? | |
| 18:06 | wahanui | Manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 18:07 | jcamins_away | ^^ |
| 18:07 | datadoctor | Ubuntu 12 should be out this week or next. The beta is very cool. |
| 18:08 | Ubuntu 12 is LTS, and seems easier to install than 11, very similar though, same interface, more options for configuration. | |
| 18:08 | jcamins_away | datadoctor: yeah, it'll be a lot easier, I was just responding to the discussion earlier about installation documentation. |
| 18:08 | I am very much looking forward to upgrading my servers. | |
| 18:08 | oleonard | The question will remain, is it necessary to maintain two different Ubuntu INSTALL files? |
| 18:08 | jcamins_away | In a few months. |
| 18:09 | oleonard: I think we probably need to include two in 3.8, and eliminate the second for 3.10. | |
| 18:09 | datadoctor | I don't think so...but I can't say for sure - the directory structure of 12 seems to be the same as 11. |
| 18:09 | cait | oleonard: have you seen the template readmy? |
| 18:09 | readme? | |
| 18:09 | oleonard | jcamins_away: Why do you say that? |
| 18:09 | cait | i didn't know we had something like that |
| 18:09 | discovered it today :) | |
| 18:09 | oleonard | cait: Probably at some time in the past |
| 18:10 | jcamins_away | oleonard: because the current LTS support is Lucid, for which the installation process is very different than more recent versions. |
| 18:10 | s/support // | |
| 18:10 | 11.10 was supposed to be LTS, but then it wasn't. :( | |
| 18:10 | oleonard | The Koha installation process is different? |
| 18:10 | jcamins_away | Yup. |
| 18:11 | datadoctor | Lucid is definitely a different structure than Pangolin. |
| 18:11 | jcamins_away | It sucks. |
| 18:11 | (on the plus side, once you've gotten Koha installed on Lucid, any recent Debian-based distro seems easy) | |
| 18:12 | oleonard | Can you be specific jcamins_away? Because the two INSTALL files are not very different |
| 18:12 | jcamins_away | oleonard: Lucid requires installing things from CPAN and downloading packages manually. |
| 18:12 | Post-Lucid, you just have to use apt. | |
| 18:13 | In fact, post-Lucid, it works exactly the same as for Debian. | |
| 18:13 | oleonard | So "sudo dpkg --set-selections < install_misc/ubuntu.packages" is incorrect for Lucid? |
| 18:13 | jcamins_away | You do that, but then you do the other steps, too. |
| 18:14 | I'm not at my home computer so I can't look at the files, but I am suspecting maybe the instructions for Lucid are incorrect. | |
| 18:14 | That is the only step necessary to install dependencies as of Maverick. | |
| 18:14 | On Lucid, there are certain dependencies that can't be installed via apt-get. | |
| 18:14 | (or dpkg) | |
| 18:17 | I guess the Lucid instructions don't talk about installing things via CPAN? | |
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| 18:17 | jcamins_away | (anymore) |
| 18:17 | mveron | Good evening #koha |
| 18:23 | If in Circulation (Chek out) I check "Forgive fines on return:" and then check in all items, nothing happens with the fines. I would expect the fines to be written off, right? | |
| 18:25 | cait | overdue fines? |
| 18:25 | mveron | No, rental charges. |
| 18:26 | datadoctor | I had some CPAN module install dependency problems with my Debian install (Squeeze), but I just re-cpanned them a couple of times, and it picked up more of the missing dependencies on each cycle. |
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| 18:26 | oleonard | Rental charges are based on checkout, overdue fines are based on return |
| 18:27 | So I wouldn't expect rental charges to change upon return | |
| 18:28 | datadoctor | I guess I mean the install script for the modules...my memory of the install is fading... |
| 18:28 | mveron | Ok, understood. Then the "Forgive fines on return:" is related to the fines. I was missleaded by the tab "Fines", because it shows fines & charges |
| 18:29 | jcamins_away | datadoctor: at this point, you shouldn't need to do anything with CPAN. |
| 18:29 | datadoctor | Thanks, I am very happy with my current install. :) |
| 18:29 | cait | mveron: perhaps we should trnaslate it to mahngevühren - if it isn't yet |
| 18:30 | datadoctor | Just thinking about Precise Pangolin. I really like Ubuntu 12 LTS, but we run Debian for our Koha install. |
| 18:30 | jcamins_away | datadoctor: I use Debian for development, but Ubuntu server in production because integration with AWS is better. |
| 18:30 | Morthland | how do I use AWS? |
| 18:31 | jcamins_away | Morthland: that's not really a Koha question. |
| 18:31 | datadoctor | I'm interested...maybe a switch to Ubuntu for Koha 3.8 is in my future... |
| 18:31 | http://www.acronymfinder.com/AWS.html | |
| 18:32 | ;) | |
| 18:32 | mveron | cait: Would be a good idea. And the bluish tab on the left could read "Fines, Fees & Charges" (Ausleih- und Mahngebühren?) instead of "Fines" only. |
| 18:33 | cait | I think it would get too long |
| 18:33 | that's a problem for display then too | |
| 18:33 | and it shows all kinds of "gebühren" | |
| 18:33 | so perhaps for the tab it's enough to be less specific | |
| 18:33 | it's even more than ausleih- and mahngebühren | |
| 18:34 | rental, overdue, holds, new patron cards, copier... | |
| 18:47 | mveron | cait: Maybe the original English expression "Fines" in the Tab is to specific, my understanding of "Fine" is something like"Busse" (Penalty). "Gebühren" in the tab is OK. |
| 18:47 | Could Gebührenerlass bei Rückgabe: read "Erlass der Mahngebühren bei Rückgabe:"? | |
| 18:48 | cait | of course |
| 18:48 | i see translation as an iterative proces... | |
| 18:48 | mveron | That would explain thins a little bit... For people like me :-) |
| 18:48 | cait | hopefully getting better with each iteration :) |
| 18:48 | mveron | Of course! |
| 18:50 | Update to the fines glitch I talked about this morning: | |
| 18:50 | Tried to reproduce with the 3.07.00.19 installation of our Koha-Group , no problem. worked OK, | |
| 18:50 | then went back to my 3.07.00.049 Installation and changed item-level_itypes back to "specific item" | |
| 18:50 | ...and could not longer reproduce the error. Hmm, I did not dream.... | |
| 18:54 | * oleonard | wonders if he has fed a troll |
| 18:55 | jcamins_away | oleonard: yep. |
| 18:55 | oleonard | However, I agree that the new design is not as flexible as it should be |
| 18:55 | magnuse | cait or someone else german-speaking: you'll want to translate line 39 here: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a4f403b34;hb=HEAD |
| 18:55 | jcamins_away: i found the root of my local image problem | |
| 18:56 | cait | magnuse: thx :) |
| 18:56 | magnuse | the permission was not added to http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3976d4aa3;hb=HEAD |
| 18:56 | cait | not at all? |
| 18:56 | oh :( | |
| 18:56 | jcamins_away | magnuse: oh, that would cause it. |
| 18:58 | magnuse | this patch fixed a lot of the languages but not nb-NO :-) http://git.koha-community.org/[…]81e140eaadcb405bf |
| 18:59 | i'll do a patch now and hope paul_p will push it tomorrow | |
| 18:59 | cait | I think he will - sample data should be ok |
| 19:00 | for last minute changes | |
| 19:00 | could yo uadd a german translation for me? | |
| 19:00 | jcamins_away | Shouldn't the test have caught that? |
| 19:00 | cait | mveron: Lokale Coverbilder heraufladen ? |
| 19:00 | Upload local cover images | |
| 19:01 | mveron | cait:Thinking about... |
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| 19:01 | cait | brb |
| 19:01 | hi drojf :) | |
| 19:01 | and brb... | |
| 19:02 | drojf | hej cait :) |
| 19:03 | magnuse | i'll do a translation if you give me one :-) |
| 19:05 | mveron | cait: Eigene Coverbilder heraufladen ? Eigene Buchcover herauladen? (Buchcover is used e.g. in Syspref AmazonCoverImages and others) |
| 19:08 | cait: Buchcover in Google 3'280'000 Hits | |
| 19:08 | cait: http://www.duden.de/suchen/sprachwissen/Buchcover - Duden uses Buchcover for it's covers | |
| 19:13 | magnuse | ok cait and mveron, i got the file open now - what's it gonna be? ;-) |
| 19:13 | cait | what mveron suggested :) |
| 19:13 | but we wil l have tomake the translation match later on | |
| 19:13 | i think I used coverbilder :P | |
| 19:14 | mveron: it's for the staff permisson | |
| 19:14 | permission | |
| 19:14 | drojf | eigene umschlagbilder hochladen :P |
| 19:14 | cait | drojf: any vote from you? |
| 19:14 | drojf | ;) |
| 19:14 | cait | lol |
| 19:14 | I like lokal | |
| 19:14 | becaue it's not the cover of the librarian | |
| 19:14 | but of the library | |
| 19:14 | but hm. | |
| 19:14 | magnuse | important distinction ;-) |
| 19:15 | cait | compromise: lokale coverbilder heraufladen? :P |
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| 19:15 | drojf | do you say heraufladen in the southern states? :P |
| 19:15 | cait | sometimes |
| 19:15 | drojf | cute |
| 19:15 | cait | depending on where you look |
| 19:15 | mveron | I do not agree, because lokal has in this context not the same meaning as English local |
| 19:16 | cait | lol |
| 19:16 | poor magnuse | |
| 19:16 | drojf | heh |
| 19:16 | cait | ok, mveron and drojf - fight it out |
| 19:17 | drojf | i dont want to fight :) way too tired |
| 19:17 | cait | me too |
| 19:17 | so drojf - you want upload? | |
| 19:17 | drojf | we could try flipping a coin |
| 19:17 | cait | Upload eigener Buchcover ? |
| 19:17 | drojf | no |
| 19:17 | hochladen | |
| 19:17 | lol | |
| 19:17 | cait | oh right |
| 19:17 | yeah | |
| 19:17 | hochladen | |
| 19:17 | * cait | is really too tired |
| 19:17 | drojf | Eigene <yourfavourite> hochladen |
| 19:17 | cait | Eigene Buchcover hochladen |
| 19:18 | magnuse | has it been translated for the interface? the staff .po file? |
| 19:18 | cait | mveron: scared away now? :) |
| 19:18 | mveron | Sorry, I can not type as fast as you all... :-) |
| 19:18 | cait | magnuse: yeah it has - with Coverbilder - but that can still be fixed :) |
| 19:19 | drojf | wouldnt it be "eigene buchcoverS" then? *duck* |
| 19:19 | mveron | I would like to have it consistent. The other preferences use Coverbilder and Heruafladen. Hochladen would be better |
| 19:19 | cait | mveron: we can fix the po files tomorrow |
| 19:19 | going to work on that in a few minutes - creating new files for german reflecting latest changes to master | |
| 19:20 | magnuse | ok, i'll need the translation in 3 |
| 19:20 | 2 | |
| 19:20 | 1... | |
| 19:20 | cait | Eigene Coverbilder hochladen |
| 19:20 | magnuse | done |
| 19:20 | cait | lol |
| 19:20 | vetos? | |
| 19:20 | mveron | Alles klar :-) |
| 19:20 | jcamins_away | Eigene Coverbilder hochladen buchcovers lokale heruafladen? |
| 19:21 | drojf | lol |
| 19:21 | cait | jcamins_away: sorry, you only get a vote for russian |
| 19:21 | jcamins_away | cait: awww. |
| 19:21 | drojf | eigene lokale buchcoverbilder hoch heraufladen |
| 19:21 | cait | lol |
| 19:21 | rofl | |
| 19:21 | pastebot | "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "looking for some report help - anyone around here who can help us?" (27 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/353 |
| 19:21 | * jcamins_away | likes the word "heraufladen." |
| 19:21 | mveron | Heruaf is a very old German word. It means the Army of Uaf :-) |
| 19:21 | jcamins_away | What does it mean? |
| 19:21 | magnuse | tee hee |
| 19:21 | jcamins_away | Hehe. |
| 19:21 | I like Heruaf even better then herauf, I think. :) | |
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| 19:23 | jcamins_away | What does "heraufladen" mean, though? I think it's a verb... |
| 19:23 | Something about "on-carrying"? | |
| 19:23 | mveron | upload |
| 19:23 | cait | jcamins_away: I fear the worst - it might be my own creation |
| 19:23 | :P | |
| 19:23 | drojf | i think i would translate it as "uponloading" instead of "uploading" :) |
| 19:23 | cait | better learn german from drojf and mveron |
| 19:23 | oleonard | Making some subtle tweaks: http://screencast.com/t/dGmBx05Bx |
| 19:24 | jcamins_away | drojf: ooh, so I almost kind of got some sense of what it meant! Yay! |
| 19:24 | drojf | i actually use "herabladen" instead of "download" sometimes |
| 19:24 | libsysguy | i prefer B oleonard |
| 19:24 | cait | oleonard: too subtle for me? |
| 19:24 | drojf | but as a joke |
| 19:24 | oleonard | Wrong answer libsysguy :P |
| 19:24 | libsysguy | damn |
| 19:25 | * jcamins_away | doesn't understand the joke. |
| 19:25 | libsysguy | sorry…i like the centered layout |
| 19:25 | jcamins_away | I prefer A. |
| 19:25 | B looks squished on the left. | |
| 19:25 | cait | a? |
| 19:25 | wahanui | a is not related to B in any way , it (B) is in OPAC, A is in Reports |
| 19:25 | cait | lol |
| 19:26 | libsysguy | did I get them backwards jcamins |
| 19:26 | B looks like it is centered to me | |
| 19:26 | cait | aaw |
| 19:26 | nice commit message magnuse :) | |
| 19:26 | libsysguy | centered is win |
| 19:26 | cait | - translates the text of the preference for de-DE (thanks to cait, |
| 19:26 | drojf and mveron for the translation) | |
| 19:26 | ok | |
| 19:26 | german translators :) | |
| 19:26 | do me a favour? | |
| 19:27 | mveron, drojf: I am looking in your direction! | |
| 19:27 | mveron | Was typing... Whenever I can! |
| 19:27 | magnuse | ok, bug 7984 is ready for signoff now, hint hint :-) |
| 19:27 | mveron | What can I do? |
| 19:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7984 major, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Fix the upload_local_cover_images permission |
| 19:27 | cait | ok, everyone grab a set of current po files for 3.8 from pootle |
| 19:27 | drojf | try to write an email, just say something |
| 19:27 | cait | last time I confused files and had to retranslate sysprefs again.... |
| 19:27 | external backup strategy this time :P | |
| 19:28 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: B didn't look centered to me. It looked left-justified. |
| 19:28 | oleonard: was I wrong about that? | |
| 19:28 | cait | http://translate.koha-communit[…]de/38/review.html > zip of directory |
| 19:31 | mveron | cait: Need some more advise |
| 19:31 | drojf | i got myself 3 .po files. anything else? or just store them? |
| 19:31 | oleonard | Here's another demonstration of other differences: http://screencast.com/t/KmG7CuF7J5ZW |
| 19:31 | cait | drojf: just keep them safe from me for now :) |
| 19:31 | drojf | sure can do :) |
| 19:32 | * libsysguy | libsysguy_away |
| 19:32 | cait | I am updating the files now |
| 19:32 | on my local installation | |
| 19:32 | drojf | is there no backup whatsoever in pootle? |
| 19:32 | cait | to reflect changes |
| 19:32 | mveron | cait: Oh, found the ZIP, had to login first |
| 19:32 | magnuse | hooray for flexible "buttons" on the intranet home page! |
| 19:32 | cait | I don't know - but I hope fredericd does backups :) |
| 19:33 | jcamins_away | New one is *way* better. |
| 19:33 | cait | yep |
| 19:33 | oleonard: going to submit as follow up? | |
| 19:33 | oleonard | Yes. I should probably set a max-width on the buttons too |
| 19:33 | cait | mveron, drojf - we have some fatal errors, but can fix them before release, telling you so I don't forget :) |
| 19:34 | drojf | thanks for making me part of your brain |
| 19:34 | cait | oleonard: I think i would like that - so they don't grow so large... and when i hide the images I can resize them :) |
| 19:34 | drojf: my pleasure heh :) | |
| 19:34 | drojf | :) |
| 19:34 | cait | ok |
| 19:34 | now going to upload opac | |
| 19:34 | mveron | cait: external drive... |
| 19:34 | ...for local head | |
| 19:35 | magnuse | g'night #koha - have fun! |
| 19:36 | libsysguy | what does rfc stand for |
| 19:36 | jcamins_away | Request For Comments. |
| 19:36 | cait | request for comment |
| 19:36 | libsysguy | ahh |
| 19:36 | thanks guys :) | |
| 19:37 | cait | ok, opac uploaded, no changes - can someone test? :) (me makes use of her new german translatoin team :P ) |
| 19:37 | ah 2 words in opac | |
| 19:37 | and 17 in pref files :) | |
| 19:37 | now the big one -s taff | |
| 19:38 | 9760 to translate before | |
| 19:39 | willl take a while | |
| 19:42 | drojf | cait: test how? |
| 19:42 | * cait | cries a bit |
| 19:42 | drojf | i still see three files but different values |
| 19:42 | cait | we are back to 14221 now |
| 19:43 | drojf | i see 12711 |
| 19:43 | cait | hm |
| 19:43 | refresh? | |
| 19:43 | drojf | just did |
| 19:43 | thats where that number came | |
| 19:43 | cait | weird |
| 19:43 | drojf | 3 Dateien 68584/82824 Wörter (83%) übersetzt [12711/14550 Zeichenketten] |
| 19:44 | cait | ah |
| 19:44 | 14550 to look at | |
| 19:45 | rangi | Morning |
| 19:45 | cait | rangi: updated german po files - over 4000 more to translate in staff :( |
| 19:45 | and good morning | |
| 19:46 | rangi | Is that all the help? |
| 19:46 | jcamins_away | cait: I guess that's thanks to the help? |
| 19:46 | cait | yep |
| 19:47 | rangi | So much for string freeze :( |
| 19:47 | cait | yep |
| 19:47 | rangi | I promise to not do that for 3.8.1 |
| 19:47 | cait | easy |
| 19:47 | no help file updates for 3.8.1 in maintenance mode | |
| 19:47 | jcamins_away | I think there should be a feature freeze, at which point there will be time for help to be written, then string freeze. |
| 19:48 | cait: I won't do that for 3.6.anything, either. | |
| 19:48 | rangi | There was |
| 19:48 | Help got submitted after the freeze | |
| 19:48 | :( | |
| 19:49 | jcamins_away | rangi: no, I meant *actual* feature and string freezes. |
| 19:49 | Where the flying spaghetti monster comes and gobbles you up if you try and break them. | |
| 19:49 | rangi | Ahh yeah |
| 19:50 | I'll be more dictatorial :) | |
| 19:50 | jcamins_away | I'll suggest that to paul_p for 3.10. |
| 19:50 | rangi: and I'll be a regular martinet with 3.6.x. Y'all can consider yourself warned. | |
| 19:51 | Actually, this shouldn't be a surprise. My proposal stated that I was going to be more-or-less entirely inflexible about additions. | |
| 19:52 | cait | rangi: help was started to be written after string freeze |
| 19:52 | rangi | :) |
| 19:52 | cait | :( |
| 19:52 | rangi | Yeah |
| 19:52 | jcamins_away | cait: right, that's why the flying noodle monster should gobble up anyone who has the temerity to ignore feature freeze. |
| 19:52 | Wait. | |
| 19:53 | It's a flying spaghetti monster. | |
| 19:53 | oleonard | That's why you heard thunder jcamins_away |
| 19:53 | jcamins_away | Hehe. |
| 19:54 | cait | I am more for the invisible unicorn actually... i think |
| 19:55 | the invisible pink unicorn | |
| 19:57 | rangi | That's the logo for haecksen |
| 19:57 | http://haecksen.net/ | |
| 19:58 | I love the byline too | |
| 20:00 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 20:00 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on April 20, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.63 in 1037 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:01 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:01 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.7°C (10:00 PM CEST on April 19, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:03 | jcamins_away | @wunder 11375 |
| 20:03 | huginn | jcamins_away: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 17.8°C (3:32 PM EDT on April 19, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:03 | mveron | @wunder Basel |
| 20:03 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 8.2°C (10:02 PM CEST on April 19, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:03 | mveron | Wow |
| 20:04 | @wunder Allschwil | |
| 20:04 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 8.2°C (10:02 PM CEST on April 19, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:04 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 20:04 | jcamins_away | The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland |
| 20:04 | wahanui | i guess the current temperature in basel, switzerland is 8.2°C (10:02 PM CEST on April 19, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:04 | jcamins_away | Hehe. |
| 20:05 | The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York? | |
| 20:05 | Guess I already told wahanui to ignore that one. | |
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| 20:11 | rangi | My stop bbiab |
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| 20:12 | mveron | Good night #koha |
| 20:12 | cait | good night mveron |
| 20:13 | mveron | Bye |
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| 20:15 | * oleonard | leaves too |
| 20:15 | cait | bye oleonard :) |
| 20:15 | oleonard | Bye! |
| 20:15 | SJeffery | Everyone leaves as soon as I log in |
| 20:16 | jcamins_away | SJeffery: well, did you come with a question about analytics? |
| 20:16 | SJeffery | lol |
| 20:17 | Maybe we should cache the analytics results and only display them when there are analytics for the item:D | |
| 20:18 | ^ I had to come up with something | |
| 20:18 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 20:19 | On the subject of analytics, Space_Librarian should submit a patch adding the 773 to the OPAC results display. rangi, I hereby delegate coaching her through that to you, since you're in her timezone. :P | |
| 20:20 | mib_3byp05 | im having a problem with a installation that i administer |
| 20:20 | cait | jcamins_away: lol |
| 20:20 | mib_3byp05 | http://lib.themico.edu.jm/cgi-[…]-search.pl?q=1790 when i do that search and select the third entry i get 404 error |
| 20:21 | i did the rebuildzebra script but no help | |
| 20:22 | jcamins_away | mib_3byp05: your indexes are probably out of date. |
| 20:22 | searching faq? | |
| 20:22 | wahanui | i think searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 20:23 | mib_3byp05 | im having that problem with about 600 items |
| 20:23 | i rebuild zebraindex about 10times in the last 24hrs but no solution | |
| 20:24 | perl -I/usr/share/koha/lib /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b –w | |
| 20:24 | jcamins_away | mib_3byp05: did you look at the suggestions for resetting the index? |
| 20:24 | Also, you should be using -r not -w | |
| 20:26 | mib_3byp05 | running with -r currently |
| 20:27 | * jcamins_away | leaves for home. |
| 20:27 | jcamins_away | Good night, #koha |
| 20:29 | cait | good night jcamins_away :) |
| 20:30 | rangi | back |
| 20:30 | jcamins_away: she shouldnt even need coaching, she is well capable :) | |
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| 21:00 | rangi | ahh yes |
| 21:00 | how to apologise while not | |
| 21:00 | its a skill that that guy has mastered | |
| 21:21 | http://grooveshark.com/#!/play[…]+Wake+Up/57239977 | |
| 21:25 | hmm new bugzilla, 4.2.1 .. with security fixes, | |
| 21:25 | * rangi | upgrades |
| 21:26 | rangi | http://www.bugzilla.org/security/3.6.8/ |
| 21:26 | http://www.bugzilla.org/releas[…]elease-notes.html | |
| 21:29 | done | |
| 21:29 | * rangi | talks to himself |
| 21:29 | ibeardslee | first sign of intelligence |
| 21:30 | SJeffery | also insanity |
| 21:30 | gmcharlt | just so long as it doesn't devolve into violent disagreement |
| 21:31 | rangi | heh |
| 21:52 | jcamins_away | rangi: well, excellent. Space_Librarian should submit the patch soon, because then it has a reasonably good chance of getting into 3.6.6. :) |
| 21:53 | rangi | :) |
| 21:56 | jcamins | mtj: :) |
| 21:56 | rangi | mtj++ |
| 21:57 | jcamins | mtj++ # yeah, he deserves karma |
| 21:57 | mtj | yeah, just for a change... |
| 21:57 | rangi | best response to a troll yet :) |
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| 21:58 | ibeardslee | mailing list troll? |
| 21:58 | rangi | yup |
| 21:59 | jcamins | I'm actually going to jQuery the cataloging button into a slider, and add direct "Add record" and "Z39.50 search" links to the main page. |
| 21:59 | rangi | http://lists.koha-community.or[…]April/037227.html |
| 21:59 | jcamins: that'd work | |
| 22:00 | jcamins | If he didn't irritate me, I'd point out that it'd be easy to do. |
| 22:00 | rangi | *nod* |
| 22:00 | if you're a jerk, and you're right, you're still a jerk | |
| 22:00 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 22:01 | And having tried to be nice and forgiving last time, I'm not inclined to do it again. | |
| 22:03 | mtj | i last thing anyone wants to hear after working on some feature is 'um.. its nice sure.. but its now 32k bigger than it was before :/' |
| 22:03 | and that 32k prolly ends up cached by your web-browser too? | |
| 22:04 | jcamins | As I told gaetan_B, I think the new interface is *awesome*. |
| 22:04 | My only objection remains that I want a syspref search tab integrated into the main search box. | |
| 22:05 | oleonard says I can't have the search box on every window. :( | |
| 22:05 | Tab, rather. | |
| 22:05 | gmcharlt | jcamins: then again, in theory normal users don't play with sysprefs ever day ;) |
| 22:06 | jcamins | gmcharlt: well, true. |
| 22:07 | gmcharlt: but when I log into a Koha installation, I tend to be fixing misconfigurations. | |
| 22:08 | gmcharlt | jcamins: indeed |
| 22:08 | syspref search everywhere if you're a superlibrarian, perhaps? | |
| 22:08 | we can call it the cape box | |
| 22:08 | jcamins | Yeah, that was wizzyrea's suggested compromise. |
| 22:08 | :) | |
| 22:09 | I think this should be someone on the page if you're a superlibrarian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F[…]Alliance_logo.svg | |
| 22:09 | A background image or something. | |
| 22:11 | eythian | jcamins: not the superman logo? |
| 22:11 | jcamins | eythian: hmmmm... |
| 22:12 | No, I think the Rebel Alliance logo is more appropriate, somehow. | |
| 22:15 | mtj | jcamins: i think owen will back you on that point :) |
| 22:29 | rangi | speaking of trolls |
| 22:37 | eythian | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ear[…]es/usc00097iz.php <-- canberra trying but failing to join the earthquake club |
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| 23:13 | druthb | o/ |
| 23:13 | rangi | heya druthb |
| 23:15 | druthb | hi, rangi! :) |
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| 23:49 | rangi | ibeardslee: you left yet? |
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