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00:32 | mib_3byp05 | anyone still here? |
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01:28 | mib_3byp05 | can we batch import from a list of isbn numbers ? |
01:38 | rangi | you would have to write/find a script to do that, afaik one is not included in koha |
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02:12 | druthb | <.< |
02:12 | >.> | |
02:12 | o/ | |
02:13 | chris_n | should we avoid HTML5 foo? |
02:20 | ibeardslee | rangi: back now, didn't get to meet the hordes |
02:20 | rangi | ahh :) |
02:22 | chris_n | no takers? |
02:23 | * chris_n | is considering using File and FileReader to handle uploading in the QOD feature |
02:23 | rangi | chris_n: don't really have a firm opinion, in general i think we should be moving to html 5, not sure if yet |
02:24 | eythian | QOD? |
02:24 | chris_n | quote of the day |
02:24 | mozilla says FF 3.6 supports html5 | |
02:24 | chrome 7 | |
02:24 | IE 10 | |
02:35 | mtj | wots the mobile browser support from html5 like? |
02:35 | /me has no idea | |
02:46 | eythian | generally reasonable I think |
02:46 | they're all naturally modern browsers. | |
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03:26 | Amit_Gupta | heya druthb |
03:26 | druthb | Hi, Amit! :) |
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04:47 | fr_george | Koha is great! Our library has been up for about 3 weeks now. The only issue I have noticed is that extended characters show up as question marks. For example, a Russian language book in our collection with ISBN # 589577038X in the OPAC is a good example of the issue. I have tried the Unimark flavor as opposed to USMARC to see if there is any difference in |
04:47 | I am finding no difference. | |
04:48 | You may look at my opac located at http://opac.orthodoxeducationonline.net to see what I am asking about. | |
04:50 | I am using the UTF-8 character set. The MARC record appears to pull correctly if I pull it through MarcEdit. | |
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05:00 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
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05:21 | cait | morning #koha |
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06:06 | Oak | Guten Morgen cait |
06:07 | question: in OPAC results and item detail page, this is how publisher is shown: Publisher: Place Publisher Year | |
06:07 | how can I make it: Publisher: Publisher Place Year ? | |
06:11 | I changed <xsl:with-param name="codes">abcg</xsl:with-param> to <xsl:with-param name="codes">bacg</xsl:with-param> in /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl but nothing happened on refreshing. | |
06:11 | just took a guess that may be this will work. don't know actually how to do what i want | |
06:12 | *sigh* | |
06:13 | cait | hi Oak |
06:13 | reading | |
06:13 | Oak | ah good :) |
06:13 | cait | hm not sure |
06:14 | I mean I know how you can do it | |
06:14 | but | |
06:14 | not sure what the right order is :) | |
06:14 | Oak | should not do it? |
06:14 | cait | @marc 260 a |
06:14 | huginn | cait: Place of publication, distribution, etc. May contain the abbreviation [S.l.] when the place is unknown. (Repeatable) |
06:14 | cait | @marc 260 $b |
06:14 | huginn | cait: unknown field/subfield combination (260/$b) |
06:14 | cait | @marc 260 b |
06:14 | huginn | cait: Name of publisher, distributor, etc. May contain the abbreviation [s.n.] when the name is unknown. (Repeatable) |
06:15 | cait | Oak: why do you want to change the sequence? |
06:15 | Oak | well, it will read like this then: Publisher: Harvard Business School Publishing. USA. 2004. |
06:16 | that seems better (when reading?) | |
06:16 | cait | hm there are rules :) |
06:16 | Oak | okay |
06:16 | and | |
06:16 | alex_a | bonjour! |
06:16 | cait | I mean you could change it - but I think it's correct that way, checking now |
06:16 | Oak | what was I supposed to put after 260 a? a comma? |
06:16 | cait | http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd260.html |
06:17 | place : publisher, year I think | |
06:17 | take a look at bug 7845 | |
06:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7845 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Multiple 260s don't display properly in search results |
06:17 | cait | I wrote a patch to improve display and the punctuation |
06:18 | Oak | uh oh. now I have to change all books i cataloged to look like: Publisher: USA: Harvard Business School Publishing, 2004. ? :( |
06:18 | cait | Oak: no, only when you had the wrong fields :) |
06:18 | if you put the informatoin in the fields like they were labelled, all is ok | |
06:19 | Oak | okay then... it's just that i put a full stop after Place, then a full stop after Publisher, and after year also... it looks kind of bad. but well. |
06:19 | okay. Good Morning to you cait. | |
06:19 | cait | Oak: perhaps try the patch |
06:19 | Oak | Bonjour alex_a |
06:20 | cait | it might make it look better |
06:20 | and bonjour alex_a | |
06:21 | Oak | hmm, looking, meanwhile, this is how my results look: http://tinypic.com/r/xbzvb6/5 |
06:22 | alex_a | bonjour cait Oak :) |
06:24 | Oak | cait, if I apply the patch, i should first remove the full stop from all records one by one? |
06:25 | cait | it might be the xslt cuts off the full stop |
06:25 | I am not sure it does, but it has functions to do that in other places | |
06:25 | so it might work without changing the records | |
06:25 | Oak | hmm. |
06:25 | what is link to your library cait ? | |
06:26 | cait | Oak: I have no library using the patch right now - it just got into master yesterday |
06:27 | Oak | oho i just want to see things .... how it looks etc |
06:27 | not this patch | |
06:27 | just how things are done in your library in a general way | |
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06:38 | francharb | hi |
06:38 | wahanui | what's up, francharb |
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06:39 | cait | Oak: not working in a library :) but you can try searching here |
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06:40 | reiveune | hello |
06:40 | wahanui | privet, reiveune |
06:41 | Oak | by the way, in /cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/detail.pl?biblionumber=7 it shows publisher like this: "Publisher: Pearson Education India 2003 ." but in OPAC results it shows "India" at start. Why is that? |
06:42 | that /cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/detail.pl?biblionumber=7 is in Koha admin area... | |
06:43 | cait | Oak: because it's a bug :) |
06:43 | Oak | cool. |
06:43 | :) | |
06:43 | cait | it's the only place where it was wrong - my patch also corrected that |
06:43 | Oak | ah :) |
06:44 | cait | ok, have to go :) |
06:44 | bbl | |
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06:49 | julian_m | hello |
06:49 | wahanui | what's up, julian_m |
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06:57 | mveron | Good morning #koha |
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06:58 | Oak | hello julian_m, mveron :) |
06:58 | mveron | Hi Oak |
06:58 | Hi Julian | |
06:58 | julian_m | hello Oak, mveron |
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07:12 | kf | hi #koha |
07:13 | esofiane | Hello everybody |
07:13 | mveron | hi kf, esofiane |
07:13 | kf | hi mveron and esofiane |
07:14 | mveron: was tired yesterday :( - if you want to start on german translation, you can do that now - all files are updated | |
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07:14 | kf | hi gaetan_B :) |
07:14 | mveron | kf: Coffee ready, files ready, mveron ready... |
07:15 | gaetan_B | hi kf :) hello koha ! |
07:15 | kf | mveron: :) - and a good idea, I should make tea |
07:15 | mveron | hi gaetan |
07:15 | drojf | good morning #koha |
07:16 | kf | hi drojf :) |
07:16 | drojf | hej kf :) |
07:16 | mveron | hi drojf |
07:16 | drojf | hi mveron |
07:31 | mveron | kf: How to proceed? I'm on Deutsch » Koha 3.8 » de-DE-i-staff-t-prog-v-3006000.po, used "Schellübersetzung" to go there, see Entry 1867. Just type in and "Vorschlagen"? Or "Senden"? |
07:31 | kf | Senden |
07:32 | if you are sure :) | |
07:32 | Vorschlagen requires that I go through all of them and decide if it's good or not | |
07:32 | mveron | kf: OK, I give it a try... |
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07:37 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
07:37 | mveron | Hi magnuse |
07:38 | drojf | hi magnuse |
07:38 | magnuse | hiya mveron and drojf |
07:38 | mveron | kf: biblionumber? |
07:38 | kf | hm link? |
07:38 | wahanui | i guess link is right, but the website is gone, apparently |
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07:39 | kf | mveron: if it's in context to the database I would keep it, or you could use Titelsatznummer |
07:39 | mveron | kf: thanks |
07:40 | kf | hm is bugzilla down? |
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07:41 | samuel | hi everybody! |
07:42 | mveron | kf: Had the same impression, does not load. Bug limit reached? :-) |
07:42 | kf | hi samuel :) |
07:42 | hope not | |
07:42 | rangi did an update yesterday - perhaps related to that? | |
07:45 | mveron | kf: I had a look at bugs about 60 minutes ago, then it worked. |
07:46 | kf: OK like this? http://translate.koha-communit[…]html?unit=3526458 | |
07:48 | kf | mveron: looks good to me:) |
07:49 | magnuse | bugzilla works for me now |
07:59 | mveron | kf: Thanks. Who sets the checkbox "fragwürdig"? |
08:04 | kf | mveron: the translation scripts mark thing sas fuzzy = fragwürdig in some cases. I think when there are minor changes? ( |
08:04 | ich hab das nie ganz entschlüsselt :) ) | |
08:05 | I think that we have so many fuzzy strings now is due to the capitalization changes in the english templates | |
08:05 | but it's a chance to correct the typos hidden in there... (founds lots of typos...) | |
08:05 | * magnuse | thinks so too |
08:05 | kf | found. |
08:06 | mveron | kf: Seems to be related with things like http://translate.sourceforge.n[…]sts#endwhitespace |
08:08 | kf | oh right |
08:08 | whitespace | |
08:08 | wahanui | whitespace is http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]patches-with-git/ |
08:08 | kf | be careful to keep all %s |
08:08 | you can move them to make sentences work better, but the sequence can not be changed | |
08:08 | and if there is whitespace at the end of a sentence (shown by a red line) - keep that too | |
08:09 | mveron | kf: Ok, will take care |
08:10 | kf: Is there kind of history to trace back changes? | |
08:12 | magnuse | mveron: nope, no version control :-) |
08:12 | for people collaborating it might actually make sense to use git, to keep track of changes and for merging work | |
08:13 | kf | magnuse: I think merging po files does not work all too well :( |
08:13 | magnuse | bah! |
08:14 | mveron | maguse, kf: Ok, good to know. I go carefully ahead... |
08:14 | kf | mveron: we can always search and change strings later |
08:14 | mveron: I do that all the time when I run into something weird in the interface | |
08:14 | nothing is set into stone :) | |
08:15 | mveron | kf: Good to know. |
08:29 | Amit_Gupta | heya kf |
08:32 | mveron | kf: Consitency: Lokaler Rechner or Lokaler Computer? |
08:46 | kf | mveron: no idea :) |
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08:46 | kf | mveron: we used to have a wiki page with terms we agreed on on the old wiki - but it got lost and I didn't recreate it because not many german translators |
08:46 | perhaps we should create a new one | |
08:47 | drojf | kf: yes please |
08:48 | it is very confusing for some people if terms for one thing change within the interface | |
08:48 | kf | drojf: it's never by intention |
08:48 | mveron | Agree (einverstanden, stimme zu, richtig) |
08:49 | drojf | no but it happens |
08:49 | kf | drojf: and it's not easy to do :( but I agree whole heartedly and I am trying to have things consistent |
08:49 | magnuse | and sometimes it's just really hard to understand what meaning of e.g. "item" is appropriate |
08:49 | kf | yeah or issue |
08:49 | magnuse | yeah! |
08:49 | kf | isssue can be a zeitschriftenheft and a problem and a ausleihe |
08:49 | mveron | Had a nice one: Check Items In = Prüfe Exemplare in |
08:49 | drojf | yes |
08:50 | hihi | |
08:50 | kf | cat = katze (short form of category on one page) |
08:50 | drojf | :D |
08:50 | mveron | Google translate |
08:51 | magnuse | oleonard++ for his work on capitalization - i think that reduced the number of "duplicate strings" considerably |
08:51 | mveron | Once I got Taufbeckenverwaltung for Font Manager |
08:51 | kf | magnuse: and makes out the few corrections we missed :) |
08:51 | rofl | |
08:51 | mveron: I have seen professional translations for library related texts that were really awful | |
08:51 | missing the right vocabulary | |
08:52 | mveron | Maybe after the translation process we can do a search on the usual suspects |
08:52 | drojf | isn't there an english german dictionary for libraryspeak? i think i saw something like that, and i think it was online, but i cannot find it anymore |
08:52 | kf | yep |
08:52 | we had links to those | |
08:53 | if someone starts a wiki page | |
08:53 | I can add some links later on | |
08:53 | that is one: http://www.bibliotheks-glossar.de/ | |
08:53 | drojf | maybe we write an open access dictionary while we#re at it :D |
08:54 | yes that's the one. thanks | |
08:56 | kf | und stimmt nicht mehr - budget = Etat, fund = Konto (seit der neuen Erwerbung) |
08:57 | ok, meeting, will be back later | |
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09:10 | magnuse | Oak |
09:10 | Oak | magnuse |
09:10 | :) | |
09:10 | magnuse | :-) |
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09:13 | vk | hello friends |
09:13 | magnuse | hiya vk |
09:13 | vk | please tell me is it necessary to define shelving location at the time of data import |
09:14 | because my item type itself clear that it belongs to which section of the library i.e reference, general, book bank etc. | |
09:24 | magnuse | 952$c is not mandatory, but if it wasn't too much work i think i would fill it, even if it does not say anything different than the item type, to perhaps make future changes easier... |
09:25 | vk | ok than i will also try for that |
09:26 | in 3.6 search limit items available only is not working is it bug or anything wrong which i do not know | |
09:26 | magnuse | vk: it's a bug |
09:27 | vk | so how and when it could be corrected and till that time how can i hide it? |
09:27 | magnuse | there was talk about it yesterday, let me see if i can find the log |
09:29 | vk | i am using live CD of 3.6 how to run zebra with -z |
09:29 | to update the records which changes recently | |
09:30 | magnuse | you need to have cron set up to run rebuild_zebra.pl with the -z option at regular intervals |
09:30 | the cd might have set that up for you already, i don't know it | |
09:31 | i mean, i don't know how the cd sets up things | |
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09:32 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
09:32 | magnuse | kia ora paul_p! |
09:32 | vk | ok thanks, |
09:32 | wahanui | hmmm... thanks, is there a fix coming down the pipe? |
09:36 | magnuse | paul_p: any chance the patch for bug 7984 can make it into 3.8? local cover images are broken for nb-NO-installations without it |
09:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7984 major, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Fix the upload_local_cover_images permission |
09:37 | paul_p | magnuse = i'm checking patches that already have a sign-off and/or passed QA. I'll give a try to 7984 this afternoon |
09:37 | magnuse | yay! |
09:37 | paul_p: and i have a question for you at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]3.8_Release_Notes :-) | |
09:38 | paul_p | magnuse yes |
09:38 | magnuse i've answered your concern about translation | |
09:38 | magnuse | yay, cool, thanks! |
09:39 | paul_p++ | |
09:39 | i'll wander off to lunch and leave you in peace now :-) | |
09:41 | Oak | paul_p++ |
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10:29 | mveron | magnuse: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/NORMARCslim2intranetResults.xsl should keep original text, no? |
10:30 | magnuse | if you are trnslating you can just copy the strings from the NORMARC* files, yes |
10:30 | you will never, ever need normarc in german :-) | |
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10:35 | slef | paul_p: Changes to attachment 8544 of bug 7729 submitted |
10:35 | huginn | 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]=8544&action=edit patch, Bug 7729 : svc/bib: support appending ?items=1 to the URL to fetch or modify items, Bug-7729--svcbib-support-appending-items1-to-the-U.patch |
10:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , svc API should allow modification of items | |
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10:36 | mveron | magnuse: I supposed so... |
10:38 | magnuse | good |
11:01 | Amit_Gupta | heya gaetan_B |
11:01 | wahanui | gaetan_B is looking at bug 7693 |
11:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7693 minor, P5 - low, ---, gaetan.boisson, Pushed to Master , clear screen button misaligned |
11:01 | Amit_Gupta | bug 7970 |
11:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7970 major, P1 - high, ---, amit.gupta, Failed QA , Allow OPAC holds per library policy without default rule |
11:01 | Amit_Gupta | bug 7739 |
11:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7739 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, shinoy.m, Needs Signoff , Batch edit items of a title |
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11:35 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
11:35 | mveron | Hi jcamins |
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11:37 | jcamins | How's the German translation going? |
11:38 | kf_mtg | hi jcamins :) |
11:38 | mveron | I did 95 this morning, not so much as kf :-) |
11:39 | kf_mtg | looks like mveron has pushed it down another 1000 words :) |
11:39 | ah, perhaps drojf1? | |
11:39 | I haven't done anything today so far - meetings | |
11:39 | drojf1 | i didnt do anything, im working on my import |
11:40 | kf | hm |
11:40 | ghosts? :) | |
11:40 | drojf1 | 2000 more records magically appeared after fixing a bug :D |
11:40 | * jcamins | would help, but his suggestions yesterday were rejected for being gibberish. ;) |
11:40 | mveron | Wie war es docz zu köln vordem mit Heinzelmännchen so bequem... |
11:40 | kf | mveron++ :) |
11:40 | mveron | doch |
11:42 | slef | :) Ampelmännchen :) |
11:43 | 3 registrations processed, 10 more papers added to http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]2_Schedule#Papers | |
11:43 | drojf1 | kf: maybe you did them yourself while thinking about something else :D |
11:43 | kf | scary thought :) |
11:46 | jcamins | slef: Is it too late to submit a proposal? I've been too focused on this development proposal (finally finished last night, late) to do anything else. |
11:47 | Do you even need another proposal? | |
11:48 | Probably not, I think. | |
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11:50 | jwagner | slef, I see the schedule seems to be in hour blocks in the morning & 1.5 hours in the afternoons. Are you looking for papers to fit a particular timespan? I guesstimated 30-45 minutes, but can make mine fit any length you want |
11:52 | slef | jcamins: deadline is today. The more the merrier I think. I should check times. |
11:52 | jcamins: FSVO "today" like GBSD | |
11:53 | jwagner: schedule is still in flux, I suspect 30-45 is the sweet spot. | |
11:53 | jcamins | Okay. |
11:53 | I will submit my proposal, then. | |
11:53 | slef | I am not sure whether to submit one. I also want one from mle. |
11:54 | mle_: hey. Are you better? ;-) | |
11:54 | * slef | tests what sort of alerts mle has configured... |
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11:59 | slef | jwagner: I'm thinking we won't use the 1630-1800 for papers |
11:59 | lunch :) | |
11:59 | * jcamins | notices that there isn't any paper on authorities, either. |
12:00 | jcamins | I'll propose that for KohaCon 2013. |
12:01 | mveron | slef: Good Idea :-) |
12:03 | jwagner | OK, thanks slef. I have to get started writing the thing now, so I wanted to get a good idea of how long to make it |
12:05 | slef | mveron: ? |
12:05 | mveron | slef? |
12:05 | wahanui | slef is an avid cyclist |
12:06 | mveron | slef: lunch is a good idea :-) |
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12:26 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
12:26 | jcamins | Good morning, oleonard. |
12:29 | kf | hi oleonard :) |
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13:09 | chris_n | oleonard: any opinion on doing development in koha w/html5 at this point in history? |
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13:11 | chris_n | lunch? |
13:11 | wahanui | lunch is a good idea :) |
13:11 | chris_n | that's my kind of bot ;-) |
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13:19 | oleonard | chris_n: I haven't thought much about it yet |
13:20 | chris_n | I've been messing around with the FileReader() support in html5 to handle uploads |
13:21 | oleonard | Is that kind of thing backwards-compatible? |
13:21 | chris_n | FF 3.6+ |
13:21 | depending on how backwards one wants to go :) | |
13:21 | chrome 7+ | |
13:22 | although chrome entirely locks out local fs access by js and friends | |
13:22 | which stinks unless you're paranoid | |
13:22 | * oleonard | often is :P |
13:23 | chris_n | oleonard: http://caniuse.com/filereader |
13:24 | since we effectively support "only" FF for the staff client, it "probably" would not be a problem | |
13:24 | oleonard | I wonder if support in Safari lags because Apple focuses so much on mobile Safari that they don't care about file upload |
13:25 | * chris_n | doesn't know... perhaps they're after bigger lions than file upload |
13:26 | * oleonard | doesn't see much progress from Safari |
13:27 | * chris_n | resists the urge to make another really stupid play on words :-) |
13:28 | chris_n | well, I'll work this up as a separate set of patches and let folks take it for a spin; we can all decide after playing a bit |
13:28 | oleonard | What's it for? |
13:28 | chris_n | I'm adding the ability to upload quotes in csv format |
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13:30 | chris_n | my plan is to let the browser slurp up the csv into memory, create an editable datatable, allow the user to review/edit the quotes to be uploaded |
13:30 | and then submit for storage in the db | |
13:31 | it the idea flies, it may be useful in conjunction with other file import features of koha | |
13:32 | with FileReader() one can slice a file up so as to keep memory usage low and then simply "page" through the file | |
13:33 | magnus_afk | chris_n++ |
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14:33 | oleonard | Anyone else having trouble fetching from git? |
14:33 | wizzyrea | hm I'm not |
14:35 | oleonard | git.koha-community.org[0: 174.143.233.17]: errno=Connection timed out |
14:35 | fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection timed out) | |
14:37 | wizzyrea | hmm |
14:39 | gmcharlt | works for me |
14:42 | don't see anything unusal in the server's logs | |
14:42 | oleonard: still giving you problems? | |
14:43 | oleonard | Well, I just tried it using my Windows git client and it worked, so it must be something to do with my Ubuntu VM |
14:44 | I wonder what could have changed between today and yesterday... | |
14:47 | gmcharlt | oleonard: are you able to clone other Git repositories from that VM? |
14:49 | oleonard | Whoops, magic. Now it works. |
14:49 | * oleonard | suspects it was gmcharlt's brainwaves |
14:53 | gmcharlt | git pull gmchart # ERR: unsupported, painful operation |
14:54 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
15:03 | jcamins | oleonard: you suspended your computer? |
15:03 | Try restarting your VM. | |
15:04 | oleonard | I did restart and it was still a few tries before I got through |
15:05 | jcamins | Hm. |
15:05 | Well, it was an idea. | |
15:05 | I also didn't notice that it had started working. | |
15:10 | * mveron | Enough for today... |
15:10 | mveron | By #koha |
15:10 | jcamins | fredericd: around? |
15:17 | fredericd | jcamins: ? |
15:18 | jcamins | fredericd: I had a question about your indexer. |
15:19 | fredericd | I listen |
15:19 | jcamins | How hard would it be to adjust the indexer to index not based on the done field but based on the primary key. |
15:19 | *? | |
15:20 | fredericd | primary key? |
15:20 | jcamins | The auto_increment primary key. |
15:20 | Sorry, in between when I asked if you were here, and when you got back, the alarm started going crazy. | |
15:21 | I'll try to restate that more clearly. | |
15:21 | fredericd | What would you want to do exactlty? |
15:21 | jcamins | I want to be able to have multiple indexers run on one database. |
15:22 | kohastructure? | |
15:22 | koha structure? | |
15:22 | Aw, wahanui doesn't know that. | |
15:22 | wizzyrea | schema |
15:22 | schema? | |
15:22 | wahanui | schema is tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org |
15:22 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
15:22 | wizzyrea++ | |
15:22 | fredericd | jcamins: to parallized indexing? |
15:23 | jcamins | So I want to have the indexer say "okay, I indexed up to the row with zebraqueue.id=100 last run, now I start with the row where zebraqueue.id=101. |
15:23 | Actually, so I can have completely different indexing configurations with one data source. | |
15:24 | fredericd | take a look at that: https://github.com/fredericd/K[…]l/RecordReader.pm |
15:24 | This is the records reader use by the index | |
15:25 | I suppose it could be extended to select records based on various criteria | |
15:25 | jcamins | Oh, I see. In the BUILD sub. |
15:26 | Right there is the part where it checks for done = 0. | |
15:26 | :) | |
15:26 | Thanks! | |
15:26 | fredericd++ | |
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15:29 | fredericd | jcamins: you have some doc here: https://github.com/fredericd/K[…]/Tamil/Indexer.pm |
15:29 | you have some doc line 183 | |
15:29 | the idea could be to add criteria to the indexer, and the pass them to the record reader | |
15:30 | jcamins | Ah, yes, that would be perfect. |
15:30 | Do you accept patches? :) | |
15:30 | fredericd | who will sign-off :) |
15:31 | jcamins | fredericd: does anyone other than me want to do something this crazy? ;) |
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15:32 | fredericd | you know you're unique |
15:33 | jcamins | fredericd: :D |
15:33 | But just think how *useful* this would be! | |
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15:34 | fredericd | sure, even if I can't figure it how exactly |
15:35 | I had demands from people who want to inject into record related bilio records... UNIMARC 4xx fields | |
15:36 | jcamins | fredericd: I hope to add that. :) |
15:37 | To Koha, using the new filter added with the DOM biblio indexing. | |
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15:44 | reiveune | bye |
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15:49 | chris_n | oleonard: does this reflect your followup on bug 7647? http://pro.test2.biblibre.com/ |
15:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7647 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Checkout History Sort |
15:49 | chris_n | opps |
15:49 | wrong bug | |
15:49 | oleonard | No |
15:50 | * chris_n | wonders if the sandboxes pick up from bz or from the bug branch in the main repo? |
15:50 | oleonard | bz |
15:50 | http://www.screencast.com/t/KmG7CuF7J5ZW | |
15:50 | chris_n | hmm... I just created that one from 7979 |
15:51 | jcamins | chris_n: bz |
15:51 | oleonard | chris_n: Notice the text in the News box |
15:51 | * chris_n | must be confused on how to set up the sandbox |
15:52 | chris_n | now its really busted :P |
15:53 | kf | chris_n: it says something went wrong |
15:54 | oleonard | chris_n: The third patch on the bug is a follow-up based on the first patch so it won't apply if you apply the second patch |
15:54 | The sandbox system just tries to apply them all on top of each other | |
15:54 | chris_n | kf: yes ;) |
15:54 | kf | okok :) |
15:54 | * kf | goes back to answering mails |
15:54 | chris_n | at any rate, the video looked nice |
15:54 | * chris_n | hands kf a few oreos |
15:54 | jcamins | Maybe I'll eliminate the cataloging home page altogether, and just make the main page into sliders. |
15:54 | kf | ah |
15:55 | chris_n: you are brillant! Istill have some hidden in my backpack | |
15:55 | chris_n | lol |
15:57 | lunch anyone? | |
15:57 | jcamins | Maybe I'll eliminate *all* the module home pages. |
15:57 | Bwahahaha!!! | |
15:57 | Oreos? | |
15:57 | I was thinking bread and hummus, myself. | |
15:58 | * kf | has eaten them up |
15:58 | chris_n | gmcharlt: the weekend works for me #re git prune |
15:58 | oleonard | Do you make your own hummus jcamins ? |
15:58 | kf | meh, seems the browse result feature also comes with a hardcoded untrasnlatable "by" |
15:58 | jcamins | oleonard: usually I do not, but I think I will start again. |
16:00 | * oleonard | makes himself hungry by thinking about hummus with cilantro |
16:01 | jcamins | Mmmm. |
16:01 | gmcharlt | chris_n: thanks |
16:02 | jcamins | gmcharlt: I'll be RMaint for 3.6 starting Tuesday, but any time you tell me not to do any Maint'ing, I will not Maint. ;) |
16:02 | gmcharlt | jcamins: oh, you can continue to Maint during the gc, but only locally ;) |
16:02 | jcamins | Right. |
16:03 | Not to mention, it'll probably take me a while to figure out how to push things anyway. | |
16:07 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3969 follow-up = budget name field is budget_name, not name <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e36178c0cd60333f7> / Bug 3969: Budget search in acquisition does't work (search) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6cf7064abade499e6> / Bug 6931 : Only update frameworks for the correct marcflavour <http://git.koha-commun |
16:19 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #717 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
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16:52 | kf | bye all happy weekend |
16:52 | kf left #koha | |
16:52 | wizzyrea | happy weekend :) |
16:58 | chris_n | weekend? |
16:58 | wahanui | somebody said weekend was near! |
16:58 | chris_n | which end? |
17:08 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #717: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/717/ |
17:08 | * mjr: Bug 6267 custom http user-agent in check-url.pl (fix for books.google.com 401 error) | |
17:08 | * juan.sieira: Bug 7855 - marcflavour files changed to set the maxlength field into fresh installs. Include NORMARC in updatedatabase to change maxlength. | |
17:08 | * tajoli: Bug 7861 : Update of italian sql files for 3.8 | |
17:08 | * tdavis: bug 7849 Instant Fine Calculation\n Adds functionality of calculate fines instantly. This is very important for Hourly loans becuase of a loophole from the cron. | |
17:08 | * paul.poulain: Adding Marc Veron | |
17:08 | * mjr: Bug 1577 - update INSTALL to mention need to translate templates | |
17:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6267 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , custom http user-agent in check-url.pl (fix for books.google.com 401 error) |
17:08 | jenkins_koha | * tajoli: Bug 7759, update of install files to use background indexing (and some whitespace tidy) |
17:08 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6931 : Only update frameworks for the correct marcflavour | |
17:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7855 major, P5 - low, ---, juan.sieira, ASSIGNED , Bug 7263 does not include maxlength field sets into a fresh install |
17:09 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 3969: Budget search in acquisition does't work (search) |
17:09 | * paul.poulain: Bug 3969 follow-up = budget name field is budget_name, not name | |
17:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7861 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tajoli, Pushed to Master , Update of Italian sql files for 3.8 |
17:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7849 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Instant Fine Calculation at Checkin | |
17:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1577 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , installer and language | |
17:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tajoli, Passed QA , Use Koha-Contrib-Tamil to update Zebra data in background | |
17:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6931 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , hardcoded insert incompatible with UNIMARC | |
17:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3969 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Budget Search Doesn't Work | |
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17:42 | SJeffery | Does anyone know if there is any kind of gathering planned for Koha users @ ALA? |
17:43 | jcamins | SJeffery: I don't know, but I'd think there would be something. |
17:43 | I think last year vtl organized something. | |
17:44 | SJeffery | vtl? |
17:44 | jcamins | Vicki Teal Lovely. |
17:44 | I think I spelled her name right. | |
17:44 | sekjal | yes |
17:45 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
17:45 | SJeffery | jcamins: *cookie* |
17:47 | jcamins | I think bag organized something at MW, too. |
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18:04 | * oleonard | would like to do some kind of in-country Koha meetup but never goes to the big library conferences |
18:04 | jcamins | oleonard: you should visit Lawrence during KohaCon. :) |
18:05 | cait | or also called: counterkohacon :P |
18:05 | hi all :) | |
18:06 | only joking :) I think it's great, but wish I could be at 2 places at once :) | |
18:06 | SJeffery | Some of us go to the big conferences but cant go to the Koha-specific conferences |
18:07 | jcamins | SJeffery: if there isn't anything planned yet, you could certainly get something together easily by e-mailing the mailing list. |
18:07 | SJeffery | That is the plan:) |
18:17 | * chris_n | wants to know why a js function would fail to execute properly when called immediately after a page load, but then work find the second time it is called (with no intervening page load). |
18:17 | jcamins | chris_n: I know this, actually. |
18:17 | It has to do with the difference between onload and ready() | |
18:18 | One of them doesn't actually make sure that the entire file has been downloaded. | |
18:18 | chris_n | its part of the ready() |
18:18 | jcamins | If the file hasn't been downloaded, the script doesn't work. |
18:18 | chris_n | which should do that i think... |
18:19 | but then, I am a mere mortal | |
18:19 | and very green w/js :) | |
18:19 | jcamins | chris_n: like I know anything about js? :P |
18:19 | chris_n | hehe |
18:20 | * chris_n | drinks java |
18:22 | jcamins | chris_n: how hard was hooking jeditable and datatables together? |
18:23 | * sekjal | wrote in Java for the first time in a long time the other day... |
18:23 | jcamins | sekjal: I'm so sorry. |
18:23 | chris_n | pass the sugar please... |
18:24 | it seems that the event handler may not be binding the first time around | |
18:24 | * chris_n | wonders if he sounds proficient yet |
18:26 | sekjal | jcamins: plugin for Minecraft |
18:27 | jcamins | sekjal: Minecraft-based reference services? |
18:28 | sekjal | someone apparently *has* made the W.E.B. Du Bois tower in Minecraft |
18:28 | lotta brick | |
18:42 | jcamins | You know what is going to be very cool? Browsing catalogs by printer. |
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19:05 | oleonard | When Chrome recommends warns in its audit that resources are "missing a cache expiration" what does that mean in terms of what we can change? |
19:05 | Modify default Apache conf? | |
19:05 | jcamins | oleonard: yes. |
19:06 | oleonard: there's a page somewhere that explains that. | |
19:06 | I don't have the link here. | |
19:21 | libsysguy | So if I submit a patch that probably nobody currently developing for koha can test to see if it works, what happens? |
19:21 | do you just make sure it doesn't break anything? | |
19:21 | wizzyrea | :/ nothing |
19:21 | libsysguy | sad day |
19:21 | oleonard | You don't get a signoff, so nothing |
19:21 | wizzyrea | so, uh, make a good test plan |
19:21 | oleonard | Why would nobody be able to test? |
19:21 | wizzyrea | provide relevant datas |
19:21 | libsysguy | its for AD LDAP integration |
19:22 | but its a special case | |
19:22 | wizzyrea | also detailed configuration information |
19:22 | libsysguy | hmm |
19:23 | jcamins | libsysguy: provide instructions for setting up a similarly broken configuration with OpenLDAP? :P |
19:23 | libsysguy | that could work |
19:23 | * libsysguy | goes to learn openLDAP |
19:23 | libsysguy | i suppose "it doesn't break current ldap configs" won't fly huh? |
19:24 | :p | |
19:24 | jcamins | If you can get someone to sign off on that fact, sure, that'd work. |
19:25 | libsysguy | offers cookies and milk to sign-offers ;) |
19:25 | *bait* | |
19:25 | * jcamins | doesn't use LDAP. |
19:25 | jcamins | Probably should, but I don't. |
19:25 | libsysguy | I sometime feel like im the only one |
19:26 | i just don't want my library stuck forking and rebasing after im gone | |
19:26 | jcamins | You might be able to get a sign off from MDAH. |
19:26 | Actually, I think they may have the exact same configuration you do. | |
19:26 | libsysguy | oh? |
19:26 | jcamins | Yeah. |
19:26 | libsysguy | what library is that |
19:26 | jcamins | You'd have to ask though, because I don't remember. |
19:27 | libsysguy | google doesn't have an immediate answer |
19:27 | jcamins | Mississippi Department of Archives and History. Linda Culberson would be the person to talk to. |
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19:27 | libsysguy | ahh so google did give the right answer |
19:29 | drojf | "crazy/ rare configurations" would be a nice section for the wiki so people can find someone to ask |
19:30 | libsysguy | could we change the logo in that secion to someone pulling their hair out? |
19:30 | jcamins | lol |
19:30 | drojf | lol |
19:30 | * jcamins | puts his name down for "one database for two or more Koha instances" |
19:31 | libsysguy | one database - two kohas |
19:31 | kinky | |
19:32 | jcamins | I even came up with a method to use zebraqueue instead of needing to reindex the second. |
19:32 | libsysguy | wizzyrea: you still around |
19:32 | jcamins | I only thought of it today so I haven't actually tested it. |
19:32 | drojf | what real life use does that have? why would one need two kohas to search the same data? |
19:32 | libsysguy | haha |
19:33 | wizzyrea | libsysguy? |
19:33 | wahanui | libsysguy is, like, Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
19:33 | * wizzyrea | nods |
19:33 | jcamins | drojf: testing index configurations. |
19:33 | Also, load-balancing. | |
19:33 | wizzyrea | failover! |
19:33 | libsysguy | do you know what the average search time is for your collection? |
19:33 | wizzyrea | average search time. |
19:33 | libsysguy | you have one of the larger ones right? |
19:33 | wizzyrea | Not empirically. |
19:33 | libsysguy | oh |
19:33 | wizzyrea | anecdotally, it's between 1 and 10 seconds. |
19:34 | so probably average 5 | |
19:34 | libsysguy | hehe |
19:34 | i like that logic | |
19:34 | jcamins | I like this name: Frambotto. |
19:35 | wizzyrea | I like this cake: http://www.epicurious.com/reci[…]olate-Cake-102238 |
19:36 | also, top it with *ginger cream* | |
19:36 | * wizzyrea | faints |
19:36 | jcamins | Oooh. |
19:36 | Ginger ice cream is amazing. | |
19:36 | libsysguy | aka soulless cream? |
19:36 | hehe | |
19:36 | * wizzyrea | gives libsysguy the eye. You know the one. |
19:37 | libsysguy | there are no pictures...geez do you guys think i work in a library or something? |
19:37 | oleonard | What does this mean? "The following resources are explicitly non-cacheable. Consider making them cacheable if possible: :88/" |
19:37 | libsysguy | heh wizzyrea |
19:37 | doesn't that mean they have do not cache in the header? | |
19:40 | oleonard you could try verifying the headers look correct with jsfiddle? | |
19:40 | oops | |
19:41 | not jsfiddle...fiddler2 | |
19:41 | too many web fiddling tools | |
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19:44 | oleonard | What I don't understand is why Chrome's audit tool is showing a comment about ":88/" all by itself |
19:44 | What is the scope of that warning? | |
19:46 | libsysguy | can you shoot a link on screencast? |
19:46 | i haven't seen it either | |
19:46 | but im curious as to the context | |
19:47 | oleonard | Okay, be back in 10 minutes after Jing finishes launching :P |
19:47 | libsysguy | hahaha |
19:47 | ill settle for a normal screencap :p | |
19:48 | oleonard | http://screencast.com/t/9fVG5IAnoT |
19:48 | libsysguy | wth that looks like a port # |
19:49 | oleonard | It is |
19:49 | libsysguy | oh |
19:49 | well there's your problem :p | |
19:49 | jk | |
19:50 | oh i actaully get that error on my opac page too but for something specific | |
19:51 | oleonard: http://screencast.com/t/baeifAw5RI | |
19:53 | ok i had a crazy thought the other day | |
19:53 | what if I wanted to find the average age of our collection | |
19:54 | could i do that in mysql using the marc records? | |
19:54 | jcamins | Crazier than "why don't I set up two Koha installations connected to one database"? |
19:54 | libsysguy | well that is pretty crazy jcamins...i feel like you just applied an inverse operation to the idea of database redundancy :p |
19:54 | jcamins | libsysguy: you could do it using pubdate, couldn't you? |
19:55 | libsysguy | i think so |
19:55 | jcamins | That's what I'd do. Use pubdate or copydate. |
19:55 | Whichever is appropriate. | |
19:55 | libsysguy | ohh publication year |
19:55 | I was worried that id have to query marc | |
19:55 | phew | |
19:56 | eff...all null | |
19:56 | jcamins | Check the other one. |
19:57 | libsysguy | i see copyrightdate in biblio |
19:57 | but nothing in items or biblioitems | |
19:58 | jcamins | Okay, copyrightdate? |
19:58 | libsysguy | yeah that one is populated |
19:58 | jcamins | Use that. |
19:58 | libsysguy | working on that now |
19:58 | jcamins | Okay, time to go. |
20:17 | * oleonard | slinks away |
20:18 | * chris_n | follows oleonard |
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21:05 | wizzyrea | man I wanna go too. |
21:09 | sekjal | hmmm... yes, going.... |
21:09 | night, #koha | |
21:10 | * drojf | watches the tumbleweed |
21:10 | jcamins | drojf: I'm here. |
21:11 | Though I'll go work on cleaning my desk once my cat is slightly less hysterical. | |
21:11 | drojf | heh |
21:11 | valerian? catnip? | |
21:12 | jcamins | drojf: hehe. My wife left *with a suitcase* this afternoon, which leaves him very insecure. |
21:12 | drojf | oh :( |
21:13 | jcamins | On the plus side, this means I'll get lots more attention from him than I usually do. |
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21:15 | * drojf | would like to have a cat |
21:15 | drojf | but allergic, yeah :/ |
21:15 | jcamins | drojf: so are we. |
21:16 | Particularly my wife. | |
21:16 | We have a hypoallergenic cat. :) | |
21:16 | drojf | did you… shave it? |
21:16 | ;) | |
21:16 | cait | myshkin is hypoallergenic? |
21:16 | jcamins | He's a Siberian. Siberians don't have the protein most people are allergic to. |
21:16 | cait: yup. :) | |
21:17 | drojf | i didnt know there is such a thing as a hypoallergenic cat. thats brilliant |
21:17 | cait | :) |
21:18 | * wizzyrea | giggles at drojf |
21:18 | wizzyrea | re: the ...shaved... cat |
21:20 | gah, this is the 3rd time I've answered the "can I print all of the fines" question. | |
21:20 | people just don't think to do file -> print on that screen. | |
21:24 | drojf | is customizing facets in zebra something a sane person would consider? |
21:24 | jcamins | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
21:24 | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
21:24 | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
21:24 | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
21:24 | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
21:24 | Uhhh... | |
21:25 | cait | drojf: I did it - it's not that bad |
21:25 | jcamins | What cait says. :) |
21:25 | cait | and it would be really nice to have it configurable from somewhere in the interface |
21:25 | wizzyrea | lol @cait's calm german answer. |
21:25 | cait | not sure why jcamins is screaming |
21:25 | drojf | :D |
21:25 | cait | jcamins: did myshkin eat up your cookies? |
21:26 | look at | |
21:26 | jcamins | cait: because when I want to "customize" Zebra facets, it's painful. |
21:26 | wizzyrea | I thought he was getting ready to sneeze. |
21:26 | jcamins | wizzyrea: lol |
21:26 | wizzyrea | you know, from the hypoallergenic cat. |
21:26 | jcamins | This is so weird. |
21:27 | cait | jcamins: can we do something to make you feel better? |
21:27 | jcamins | Recently "instant message a representative" windows haven't been working right for me. |
21:27 | drojf | i thought he tried to say "i did it, do i look lile a sane person?" |
21:27 | jcamins | drojf: exactly. |
21:27 | cait | jcamins: ? |
21:27 | oh | |
21:27 | you are sane | |
21:27 | now go bake some cookies | |
21:28 | drojf: you want to take a look at Koha.pm | |
21:28 | jcamins | cait: the box where you type in your text is disabled. |
21:28 | cait | ? |
21:28 | jcamins | That was about the "message a representative" windows. |
21:28 | I thought that's what the question mark was about. | |
21:28 | cait | I am very confused by now |
21:29 | jcamins | I have to use Chrome's developer tools to remove the disabled attribute, it works fine. |
21:29 | drojf | cait: your link looks promising! |
21:29 | jcamins | *then it works fine |
21:29 | cait: then I am doing my job demonstrating that I'm not sane. | |
21:29 | cait | hm |
21:29 | ok | |
21:29 | you are not sane | |
21:29 | go and bake me cookies! | |
21:29 | or make yummy fudge :) | |
21:29 | oh | |
21:30 | and book a flight to edinburgh | |
21:30 | drojf | i read funny fudge. its getting late |
21:31 | cait | yeah it is |
21:31 | for us at least | |
21:39 | drojf | cait: just edit Koha.pm and reindex? |
21:39 | cait | did you change an existing facet? |
21:39 | or added a new one? | |
21:40 | drojf | i tried to add a new one |
21:40 | cait | if you have a new facet you also have to put it in the template file |
21:40 | but no reindexing needed :) | |
21:40 | the template file is in the includes directory of opac templates | |
21:40 | drojf | ok cool |
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