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| 00:02 | jcamins_away | eythian: around? |
| 00:02 | eythian | jcamins: sorta |
| 00:03 | jcamins | eythian: okay, my question will keep so I'll wait until it isn't just "sorta." ;) |
| 00:04 | eythian | well, ask and I'll answer when I can |
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| 01:48 | Judit | hi |
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| 02:21 | druthb | o/ |
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| 03:30 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag |
| 03:53 | fredericd around?? | |
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| 05:01 | mtj | oooh, this mosh tool looks interesting... |
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| 05:02 | Oak | Good morning cait |
| 05:02 | mtj | http://mobile.slashdot.org/sto[…]nstant-local-echo |
| 05:02 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 05:02 | cait | hi mtj and Oak :) |
| 05:02 | good morning #koha | |
| 05:02 | Oak | :) |
| 05:02 | mtj | heya peeps |
| 05:04 | * mtj | has a linode box in japan, which could be a good candidate to test a mosh shell |
| 05:05 | eythian | I don't have any servers new enough to run it, also it poses some firewalling concerns. |
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| 05:08 | mtj | yeah, theres that bit-weirdy 60,000-61,000 udp stuff... :/ |
| 05:09 | still, if it fixes some typing-lag problems for me.... i'll take it! :) | |
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| 06:02 | BobB | hi mtj, are you about? |
| 06:02 | mtj | hiya BobB |
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| 06:10 | francharb | good morning |
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| 06:37 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
| 06:41 | Oak | Bonjour Monsieur paul_p |
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| 06:47 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:54 | marcelr | hi koha |
| 06:57 | * Oak | used translate.google.com to get correct spelling of Monsieur |
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| 07:01 | samuel | hi everybody! |
| 07:01 | marcelr | hi samuel |
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| 07:05 | asaurat | hi |
| 07:05 | wahanui | hey, asaurat |
| 07:06 | marcelr | hi asaurat |
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| 07:15 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:18 | julian_m | hello |
| 07:20 | esofiane | Good morning |
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| 07:28 | rangi | hello europe |
| 07:34 | marcelr | hi rangi |
| 07:36 | rangi | bug 7354 |
| 07:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7354 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Can't edit local use system preferences |
| 07:36 | rangi | that was a nice fix |
| 07:36 | kf++ | |
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| 07:39 | kf | hi #koha |
| 07:40 | marcelr | hi kf |
| 07:40 | kf | hi marcelr :) |
| 07:43 | rangi | hmm bug 7016 |
| 07:43 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7016 blocker, P1 - high, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , CanBookBeReserved uses GetItemsInfo unnecessarily |
| 07:43 | rangi | bug 7756 |
| 07:43 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7756 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , claim mail is not sent for serial claim |
| 08:07 | esofiane | Do you know how to list all dependencies of perl and "no-perl" of koha ? |
| 08:11 | rangi | what is no perl? |
| 08:11 | you can look in debian/control | |
| 08:12 | kf | hm mysql, apache, perhaps? |
| 08:12 | rangi | yep it has all those too |
| 08:13 | searching? | |
| 08:13 | wahanui | i heard searching was not working |
| 08:13 | rangi | searching faq? |
| 08:13 | wahanui | hmmm... searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 08:15 | esofiane | yes kf , mysql, apache2, etc. |
| 08:15 | rangi | the answer is still debian/control :) |
| 08:15 | esofiane | But in the debian/control there are all dependances ? |
| 08:16 | rangi | yes |
| 08:16 | ||
| 08:16 | Package: koha-common | |
| 08:16 | wahanui | rumour has it koha-common is the one you want, the main koha one needs a bit more work (its for setting up a single instance) |
| 08:16 | rangi | Architecture: all |
| 08:16 | wahanui | all is quiet on the open source front |
| 08:16 | rangi | Depends: ${misc:Depends}, ${koha:Depends}, |
| 08:16 | apache2, | |
| 08:16 | apache2-mpm-itk, | |
| 08:16 | etc | |
| 08:19 | esofiane | thx :) , but what is ${misc:Depends} and ${koha:Depends} ? |
| 08:22 | rangi | http://www.debian.org/doc/manu[…]q.en.html#control |
| 08:22 | or better | |
| 08:22 | http://www.debian.org/doc/manu[…]q.fr.html#control | |
| 08:23 | La dernière fonctionnalité à connaître est ${shlibs:Depends}, ${perl:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, etc. | |
| 08:23 | dh_shlibdeps(1) calcule les dépendances en bibliothèques partagées pour les paquets binaires. Il crée une liste d'exécutables ELF et de bibliothèques partagées trouvées pour chaque paquet binaire. Cette liste est utilisée en remplacement de ${shlibs:Depends}. | |
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| 08:23 | Brooke | o/ |
| 08:23 | rangi | etc :) |
| 08:23 | hi Brooke | |
| 08:23 | esofiane | hehe thanks rangi |
| 08:24 | Brooke | howdy |
| 08:24 | rangi | also if you come to the hackfest you will meet lars who wrote http://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging |
| 08:25 | Brooke | that and all the cool kids go to hackfest. >:) |
| 08:28 | rangi | heh, 9 messages the same to the mailing list, and now 2 to me .. this shahas guy is not the best at mail etiquette |
| 08:50 | Amit_Gupta | federicd around |
| 08:50 | ? | |
| 08:51 | * Brooke | preens. |
| 08:51 | Brooke | 5 different countries visited me bidsite >:) |
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| 08:57 | slef | bidsite? |
| 08:58 | Brooke | yeah for mah KohaCon bid for 2013. :) |
| 08:58 | http://kohacon2013.wordpress.com | |
| 08:58 | when I lose, I'll give that to the Community | |
| 09:02 | ibeardsl1e | nice |
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| 10:07 | mtj | interesting read.... |
| 10:07 | http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/MySQL_vs_PostgreSQL | |
| 10:07 | rangi | naw |
| 10:08 | its not vs | |
| 10:08 | its why not do it properly and have both (and more) | |
| 10:08 | because everyones situation is different you can't possibly cover them all in something like that | |
| 10:09 | its like the koha vs evergreen silliness that some consultants like to perpetuate | |
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| 10:10 | mtj | interesting read... bad title :) |
| 10:11 | marcelr | who wrote it and why, is always interesting too ;) |
| 10:13 | mtj | amen to that statement! |
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| 10:41 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 10:45 | slef | current registration count: 32 |
| 10:45 | rangi | yay! |
| 10:45 | slef | register here http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/registration/ |
| 10:48 | please email out Common Text and Call for Registrations from http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n12_Announcements to any library/software-related mailing lists you can | |
| 11:01 | kf | yay :) |
| 11:05 | Amit_Gupta | fredericd around?? |
| 11:05 | heya kf | |
| 11:06 | kf | hi Amit_Gupta |
| 11:07 | Amit_Gupta: do you have a translation question? | |
| 11:07 | * rangi | goes to sleep |
| 11:07 | Amit_Gupta | yes |
| 11:07 | some translation question | |
| 11:09 | slef | bye rangi |
| 11:09 | rangi: what's your only excuse? | |
| 11:09 | heh | |
| 11:09 | what's rangi's only excuse? | |
| 11:09 | wahanui | rangi's only excuse is probably I was doing it under protest :) |
| 11:09 | kf | Amit_Gupta: perhaps I can help? |
| 11:09 | rangi | :) |
| 11:09 | slef | wahanui is not very clever |
| 11:09 | rangi | rangi? |
| 11:09 | wahanui | I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
| 11:09 | kf | slef: for a bot he is insanely clever |
| 11:09 | slef? | |
| 11:09 | wahanui | slef is an avid cyclist |
| 11:09 | slef | any old iron? |
| 11:09 | wahanui | "any old iron, any old iron, any any any old iron" was a popular 1980s advertising slogan. |
| 11:10 | rangi | i might do the almonds on the airplane again |
| 11:10 | it can be my thing | |
| 11:10 | slef | hi all? |
| 11:10 | wahanui | yeah, yeah, hello, hello. Now fix some bugs for me, please. |
| 11:10 | kf | lol |
| 11:10 | slef | :)? |
| 11:10 | wahanui | rumour has it :) is ok |
| 11:11 | slef | BTW? |
| 11:11 | BTW,? | |
| 11:11 | wahanui | BTW, is SIP2 included in master or do I have instal a third party package? |
| 11:12 | slef | the data in that database? |
| 11:12 | wahanui | rumour has it the data in that database is more public library-oriented |
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| 11:28 | Amit_Gupta | heya jwagner |
| 11:28 | jwagner | Hi Amit_Gupta |
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| 11:49 | Topic for #koha is now 3.6.4 and 3.4.8 and 3.2.11 Now Available || Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org || General IRC meeting, 2 May 2012 at 2:00 UTC+0 | |
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| 11:53 | skk | i want to generate a report in koha to get "total number of books used by a particular patron" hw can this report be generated |
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| 11:55 | Topic for #koha is now 3.6.4 and 3.4.8 and 3.2.11 Now Available || Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org || General IRC meeting, 2 May 2012 at 2:00 UTC+0 | |
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| 12:07 | Topic for #koha is now 3.6.4 and 3.4.8 and 3.2.11 Now Available || Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org || General IRC meeting, 2 May 2012 at 2:00 UTC+0 | |
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| 12:10 | jwagner | skk, you can try this as well: select count(*) from statistics where type = 'issue' and borrowernumber = '1' (whatever your borrower# is) |
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| 12:25 | oleonard | Hey |
| 12:25 | kf_mtg | hi oleonard |
| 12:25 | :) | |
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| 12:58 | * oleonard | can't reproduce nengard's patron error |
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| 13:07 | Oak | reproduce the patron |
| 13:07 | then the error | |
| 13:07 | funny | |
| 13:18 | nengard | oleonard yeah, i'm thinking it's just that one patron but i can't figure out what could be wrong since i didn't do anything special to him recently |
| 13:19 | oleonard | Hmm... Maybe you should bake him a cake if he hasn't had anything special lately :) |
| 13:20 | kf_mtg | oleonard: I feel like I have read the error message before but can't remember :( |
| 13:20 | could it be something related to patron attributes or the like? | |
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| 13:26 | nengard | i do have patron attributes |
| 13:26 | let me see if i add some to another patron if that blocks them up | |
| 13:36 | chris_n | oleonard: is it me or did this patch get dropped along the way? |
| 13:36 | http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ha-td5541624.html | |
| 13:38 | kf_mtg | chris_n: I remember signing off on it - it's on the bug for datatables |
| 13:38 | not sure those patches got pushed | |
| 13:38 | chris_n | looks like it got dropped somewhere |
| 13:38 | kf_mtg | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5345 |
| 13:38 | huginn` | 04Bug 5345: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , DataTables in Koha |
| 13:38 | chris_n | those images are missing in master |
| 13:38 | kf_mtg | I think it's stuck in qa |
| 13:38 | chris_n | and the patch is not attached to the bug |
| 13:38 | kf_mtg | i is |
| 13:38 | chris_n | afaict |
| 13:39 | kf_mtg | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=8830 |
| 13:39 | oleonard | Renamed? |
| 13:39 | kf_mtg | hm I don't remember renaming it |
| 13:39 | chris_n | well, the rest of the dt stuff is in |
| 13:39 | oleonard | Yeah, there it is |
| 13:39 | chris_n | master |
| 13:39 | kf_mtg | the patches have not been obsoleted |
| 13:39 | chris_n | oleonard: so the css needs fixing? |
| 13:39 | kf_mtg | I am not sure they have been pushed since I signed off |
| 13:40 | some datatables are in, but those are more | |
| 13:40 | chris_n | well, the current dt css references those files |
| 13:40 | oleonard | chris_n: I don't know what you refer to |
| 13:40 | chris_n | [Thu Apr 12 09:34:15 2012] [error] [client 192.168.0.110] File does not exist: /home/cnighswonger/Repositories/koha.3.2.labels/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/img/prev-disabled.png, |
| 13:40 | oleonard | Right, if the images are added the CSS should work |
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| 13:41 | chris_n | so that patch at least needs to be pushed to master |
| 13:41 | * chris_n | looks around for paul_p |
| 13:41 | oleonard | String-free! :) |
| 13:41 | chris_n | yay! |
| 13:42 | @later tell paul_p please push http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=8830 as the current dt css in master is broken without those images | |
| 13:42 | huginn` | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:43 | chris_n | so is git-bz smart enough to be told to grab just that patch from the bug? |
| 13:43 | nengard | @later tell paul_p i know they're full of strings, but the help files for Koha 3.8 need to be pushed (a few more still need to be written and I'm doing that) bug 7936 has them |
| 13:43 | huginn` | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:43 | kf_mtg | no afaik :( |
| 13:43 | I normally do nnnnn y | |
| 13:43 | chris_n | ahh |
| 13:43 | kf_mtg | nengard: it will mean that the help files show up in english for other languages :( |
| 13:43 | oleonard | ...and if you lose your place you do nnnnnnnnnn and start over again :) |
| 13:43 | kf_mtg | nengard: perhaps a separate documentation freeze would help next time? |
| 13:46 | chris_n | yay! it works now |
| 13:46 | nengard | kf_mtg I can't stop documenting until after the feature freeze and even then there are new things going in to Koha that I need to put in the manual - until I finish the manual I can't do the help files for Koha |
| 13:46 | kf_mtg | nengard: I only argue that we need to get it done before string freze |
| 13:46 | chris_n | hi jcamins |
| 13:46 | jcamins | nengard: that's the idea for the documentation freeze. |
| 13:46 | chris_n | welcome to thursday |
| 13:46 | nengard | that said, does anyone actual translate the help files? and if so - why aren't they translating the manual as well :) it's the same text |
| 13:46 | kf_mtg | so perhaps we need a documentation freeze before string freeze |
| 13:46 | and communication | |
| 13:46 | wahanui | somebody said communication was always teh problem :( |
| 13:46 | kf_mtg | nengard: we have to |
| 13:46 | jcamins | There's a freeze that says "no new features, everything has to be documented!" |
| 13:46 | kf_mtg | nengard: they end up all in one big file |
| 13:46 | nengard: and you don't see what belongs where, you can't search and exclude them | |
| 13:47 | chris_n | wahahui: spelling is also a problem at times |
| 13:47 | jcamins | Then there's a freeze a week later that says "no new strings, including documentation!" |
| 13:47 | chris_n | wahanui: spelling is also a problem at times |
| 13:47 | nengard | kf_mtg wait - you're translating the help files??? I want those translations put in to the manual - we only have an English manual and then partials of other languages - and the language in those help files are copied right from the manual |
| 13:47 | kf_mtg | nengard: they get picked up by the translation scripts like any other page in Koha |
| 13:47 | nengard | hmmm |
| 13:47 | kf_mtg | that's why it's a problem to have them put in after string freeze |
| 13:48 | I filed a bug because I think a separate po file would be good - would make it easier | |
| 13:48 | translators could prioritize | |
| 13:48 | nengard | Anyway, I'm almost done with the help files and should finish this week |
| 13:48 | kf_mtg | decide to do interfaces first |
| 13:48 | but at the moment it's like it is | |
| 13:48 | nengard | and new things have made it in to Koha this week that are not necessarily documented |
| 13:49 | but at least I get all the help files updated with new links and the next text that I did write | |
| 13:49 | like I said I'll finish by tomorrow | |
| 13:49 | and they have to be pushed otherwise all the help files will link to the wrong manual and of course be out of date | |
| 13:49 | got to go give a webinar now | |
| 13:49 | be back | |
| 13:51 | kf_mtg | oleonard++ |
| 13:53 | @later tell nengard Only trying to figure out how we can make it work for documentation and translation - perhaps different freezes - no better idea so far. | |
| 13:53 | huginn` | kf_mtg: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:54 | kf_mtg | jcamins++ |
| 13:55 | paul_p | back... |
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| 13:55 | kf_mtg | wb paul_p |
| 13:56 | paul_p | chris_n = attachment 8830 is related to which bug ? (I need it) |
| 13:56 | huginn` | 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]=8830&action=edit patch, [SIGNED-OFF] Bug 5345 [FOLLOW-UP] DataTables in Koha, SIGNED-OFF-Bug-5345-FOLLOW-UP-DataTables-in-Koha.patch |
| 13:56 | paul_p | OK, got it : bug 5345 |
| 13:56 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , DataTables in Koha |
| 13:56 | chris_n | bug 5345 |
| 13:56 | ops | |
| 13:57 | kf_translating | I love our bots |
| 13:57 | chris_n | wow |
| 13:57 | cool | |
| 13:57 | kf_translating | wish one of them could do translations for me |
| 13:57 | chris_n | hehe |
| 13:58 | slef | kf_translating: nein! Du mußt es selbst machen</Deutschglish> |
| 13:58 | paul_p | kf_translating = the work done on capitalization made 2000 strings fuzzy... and 97% of the staff was translated to french already :\ |
| 13:58 | jcamins | Ouch! |
| 13:58 | kf_translating | paul_p: I know |
| 13:58 | oh, I know. | |
| 13:58 | and I have french in my pref files... | |
| 13:58 | because of a weird bug | |
| 13:59 | hope fredericd can fix it | |
| 14:00 | paul_p | chris_n I don't understand well why I should push attachment 8830 (and only this one) |
| 14:00 | phone ring... | |
| 14:00 | chris_n | paul_p: see the buffer for the exact error, but the current dt css calls for those images |
| 14:00 | however, they are not present in master | |
| 14:08 | kf_translating | slef: you could help? :) your german is good :) |
| 14:09 | slef | kf_translating: I think you are wearing the jester hat still, but you know how to hire me... |
| 14:10 | * kf_translating | hands over the jester hat back to slef |
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| 14:31 | chris_n | for C4::Output being deprecated we sure use it a lot |
| 14:34 | kf_translating | what does it do? |
| 14:37 | * oleonard | guesses it outputs |
| 14:38 | kf_translating | hmmm good guess :) |
| 14:41 | gmcharlt | but also includes an undocumented function that supports time travel -- when the moon is blue ;) |
| 14:41 | or is that C4::Search? | |
| 14:41 | kf_translating | you could sure hide something like that in C4:Search |
| 14:44 | chris_n | don't you mean C4::Convolute ? |
| 14:44 | or C4::Obfuscate ? | |
| 14:52 | gmcharlt | chris_n: seems redundant, somehow ;) |
| 14:52 | chris_n | lol |
| 15:10 | shouldn't selecting "my library" during log in cause the patron to be logged into their "library"? | |
| 15:10 | wizzyrea | their home library, yea |
| 15:10 | does it not? | |
| 15:10 | * chris_n | wonders if there was a bug back in 3.2 that is showing up |
| 15:10 | chris_n | no |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | i haven't ever observed this, but I never ran 3.2 so... |
| 15:11 | chris_n | sorry... its "almost" 3.4 |
| 15:12 | and wow does it cause problems :P | |
| 15:12 | wizzyrea | hm. |
| 15:13 | * chris_n | contemplates an instantaneous, sudden, and even immediate upgrade |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea | the first question? |
| 15:13 | wahanui | the first question is "What are you trying to do?" or or what is the goal? |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea | how are they getting their home library unset? |
| 15:13 | chris_n | obviously I got it back wards :-) |
| 15:13 | it is not | |
| 15:13 | ie | |
| 15:13 | I create a patron assigned to library foo | |
| 15:14 | library bar is the first branch created and foo is the second | |
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| 15:14 | chris_n | when the new patron logs in, leaving the default "my library" selected said patron is logged into bar rather than foo |
| 15:15 | somehow that sounds more complex than it is :-) | |
| 15:16 | the problem which ensues is that said patron's books from branch foo are now checked in at branch bar and the librarians go stir-crazy | |
| 15:17 | and my day suddenly becomes much less enjoyable :-) | |
| 15:18 | kf_translating | chris_n: why would a patron log into staff? |
| 15:19 | chris_n | sorry, more missing info... this patron is a librarian for library foo |
| 15:19 | * wizzyrea | assumes that "assigned to" means "has home library set to" |
| 15:19 | chris_n | exactly |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | jquery? |
| 15:19 | wahanui | well, jquery is client side, so it doesn't have anything to do with the templating system |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | i mean, do you have some? |
| 15:19 | that could mess it up? | |
| 15:20 | chris_n | no |
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| 15:21 | chris_n | they will just have to educate foo's librarian to switch branches prior to checking in books |
| 15:21 | until I do the upgrade | |
| 15:21 | wizzyrea | or pick their library explicitly |
| 15:21 | * chris_n | gets on his tough network admin hat |
| 15:21 | reiveune | bye |
| 15:21 | chris_n | bye |
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| 15:21 | wizzyrea | gl |
| 15:21 | chris_n | ;-) |
| 15:21 | wizzyrea | oh. I thought you were saying bye to go lay down the smack. |
| 15:22 | chris_n | lol |
| 15:22 | * wizzyrea | gets it now |
| 15:22 | * chris_n | was saying by to reiveune |
| 15:22 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 15:22 | chris_n | the real problem is that there is more of them than me |
| 15:23 | wizzyrea | ok... cookies? |
| 15:23 | wahanui | Cookies are delicious delicacies |
| 15:23 | chris_n | don't we wish :) |
| 15:23 | wizzyrea | maybe you need to clear the cache/clear the history/clear the cookies? |
| 15:23 | are they possibly tabbing through and it's getting set somehow? | |
| 15:23 | chris_n | usually the problem is either too much time and not enough cookies or not enough time and too many cookies |
| 15:23 | wizzyrea | @quote add chris_n: usually the problem is either too much time and not enough cookies or not enough time and too many cookies |
| 15:23 | huginn` | wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 15:23 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 15:24 | chris_n | it is duplicable across all workstations |
| 15:24 | wizzyrea | @quote add chris_n: usually the problem is either too much time and not enough cookies or not enough time and too many cookies |
| 15:24 | wahanui | i already had it that way, wizzyrea. |
| 15:24 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #200 added. |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | ah chris_n you got quote 200. |
| 15:25 | nice work. | |
| 15:25 | * chris_n | feels better already ;-) |
| 15:25 | chris_n | well, fixing it will be a waste of time when there are bigger fruit to be had by working on my koha upgrade |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | well yea. |
| 15:26 | kf_translating | paul_p++ |
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| 15:27 | * chris_n | thumbs his nose in the general direction of the library |
| 15:27 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 15:27 | huginn` | wizzyrea: Quote #156: "druthb: I would feed wahanui a botsnack of windows 8 engineers, but they're full of fluff and not very filling. trea: like marshmallow peeps, with clip on ties." (added by wizzyrea at 02:09 PM, September 22, 2011) |
| 15:28 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
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| 15:36 | gaetan_B | i am looking at bug 7693 |
| 15:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7693 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , clear screen button misaligned |
| 15:36 | gaetan_B | which seems easy enough to fix : i removed a few lines in the css and the button is back in place |
| 15:37 | oleonard | gaetan_B: That bug seems to have been caused by a change in Firefox's CSS handling, but I was unable to pinpoint when it happened |
| 15:37 | gaetan_B | but the comment before the lines i removed says "CSS Hack to target Firefox", when they actual seem to break things up in ff |
| 15:37 | aaah so it's a version thing | |
| 15:37 | oleonard | Yeah, which is really unusual for Firefox |
| 15:37 | I can't remember the last time something changed like that in Firefox | |
| 15:38 | ...and Mozilla makes it pretty hard to locate older versions of Firefox | |
| 15:38 | gaetan_B | i was on my way to submitting a patch but does that mean that these lines are needed for previous versions of ff? |
| 15:39 | oleonard | That's my concern |
| 15:39 | gaetan_B | seemingly easy patch just became a bit more comlicated :-/ |
| 15:39 | *complicated | |
| 15:40 | oleonard | Yeah, I would have patched it myself but I got frustrated and then distracted :) |
| 15:43 | gaetan_B | oleonard: should i go ahead an submit a patch or do we have to figure out what happens with other versions first ? i guess we would need a way to specifically target the concerned versions , |
| 15:43 | ? | |
| 15:47 | oleonard | I think submit the patch |
| 15:47 | http://www.w3schools.com/brows[…]wsers_firefox.asp | |
| 15:47 | use of older versions is declining | |
| 15:47 | Better to target the larger segment | |
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| 15:48 | schuster | oleonard available for a question or maybe wizzyrea? |
| 15:48 | * oleonard | is |
| 15:49 | * wizzyrea | too |
| 15:49 | schuster | On the opac with the new navigation piece for next/previous record - is that controlled by a style sheet? |
| 15:49 | oleonard | the first question? |
| 15:49 | wahanui | the first question is "What are you trying to do?" or or what is the goal? |
| 15:49 | schuster | I'm working on a new install and it isn't displaying correctly so something isn't right. |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | define "isn't displaying correctly" |
| 15:50 | oleonard | ...and clear the browser cache |
| 15:50 | schuster | Remember I have some "custom" stylesheets. |
| 15:50 | wizzyrea | oh, then yes, the css that controls it is probably missing. |
| 15:51 | schuster | So I was trying to determine which css was controlling that to make sure it gets put in the right place. |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | schuster: are you familiar with firebug or chrome's developer tools? |
| 15:52 | schuster | Yes I have firebug up and running |
| 15:53 | oleonard | schuster: Do you not have the default Koha opac.css in place, upon which you are adding your customizations? |
| 15:55 | schuster | OK that was what I was looking for the opac.css to look for thanks. I'll dig into that one. |
| 15:59 | oleonard | schuster: I'm confused. In order for the default css to be messed up by your custom css you would have to have overridden the default, and that seems unlikely |
| 15:59 | Not with classes like "pg_menu" | |
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| 16:22 | iitrs | hello dear koha users |
| 16:23 | slef | hello dear iitrs |
| 16:27 | paul_p | the day is over, and the passed QA list is empty. Bye bye #koha ! |
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| 16:34 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #711 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:34 | schuster | oleonard - I hesitate to answer your question on the grounds it may incriminate me in something stupid I may or may not have done :) |
| 16:35 | with your help though I was able to fix my problem. | |
| 16:36 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7831 : Sort budgets for selection in new order <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d0b7cdb02ce5e9773> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7876' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4cdca68dda36f4216> / Bug 7876 - Followup - Fix span tag position, add fine amount spans. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ |
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| 16:40 | slef | the day is a long way from over |
| 16:41 | cait | hi slef |
| 16:41 | slef | hi cait |
| 16:49 | edveal | Anyone figure out if you can change or assign focus when checking in an item from No to Yes for transfer? |
| 16:55 | cait | I think it should be possible to do that with jquery |
| 16:57 | iitrs | hello koha users |
| 16:57 | i need help regarding import | |
| 16:58 | while importing the records opac does not shows the call number though call number has been imported successfully and it shows in biblio record of each item | |
| 16:59 | slef | call number needs to be in the item record (tag 952 - specifically subfield o I think), not the biblio record |
| 16:59 | wahanui: @marc 952 | |
| 16:59 | wahanui | The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
| 16:59 | slef | bbl |
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| 17:07 | edveal | Cait: I would think so... but I am not having any luck. I have tried $("#mainform .submit [value='Yes']").focus(); |
| 17:12 | Even tried $("select[name='dotransfer']").focus(); | |
| 17:12 | mib_26k96f | hi all |
| 17:13 | please help my imported data does not shows call number in opac but it show well in biblio of records | |
| 17:16 | hello any body | |
| 17:21 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #711: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/711/ |
| 17:21 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 7756: FIX send email for late orders | |
| 17:21 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7834: order search at the top of acq does nothing | |
| 17:21 | * serhijdubyk: Bug 7838 - Add sort-string-utf.chr for Ukrainian and Russian | |
| 17:21 | * kyle: Bug 7940 - Placing a hold on a single item from the staff cart causes errors | |
| 17:21 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 2034: Removing unused scripts billig.pl/billing.tt | |
| 17:21 | * kyle: Bug 7876 - Followup - Fix span tag position, add fine amount spans. | |
| 17:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7756 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , claim mail is not sent for serial claim |
| 17:21 | jenkins_koha | * colin.campbell: Bug 7831 : Sort budgets for selection in new order |
| 17:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7834 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , order search at the top of acq does nothing |
| 17:21 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7838 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Add sort-string-utf.chr for Ukrainian and Russian | |
| 17:21 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7940 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Placing a hold on a single item from the staff cart causes errors | |
| 17:21 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2034 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , circ/billing.pl needs the more complex code to achieve goals for large data sets | |
| 17:21 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7876 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add ids to divs and spans with ids in opac-user.tt | |
| 17:21 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7831 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , In neworderempty budget drop down budgets should appear in a rational order | |
| 17:26 | janPasi | the search stopped working :( |
| 17:26 | all of a sudden it returns nothing | |
| 17:27 | nothing in zebra-error.log | |
| 17:27 | nothing in zebra-output.log | |
| 17:28 | [Thu Apr 12 20:27:36 2012] [error] [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] [Thu Apr 12 20:27:36 2012] opac-search.pl: Use of uninitialized value $lang in string eq at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Templates.pm line 336. | |
| 17:28 | these messages get repeated in opac-error.log | |
| 17:28 | what broke it this time? | |
| 17:30 | cait | janPasi: is your zebrasrv running? |
| 17:31 | edveal: sorry, i was in the kitchen | |
| 17:31 | edveal: not sure, I haven't used focus before | |
| 17:32 | janPasi | cait: seems to be |
| 17:32 | cait | edveal: most of the time I try to make sure I have the right element first, by hiding it or making it red or something, then try the new element |
| 17:32 | janPasi | 571 ? S 0:00 daemon --name=gmc-koha-zebra --errlog=/var/log/koha/gmc/zebra-error.log --stdout=/va |
| 17:32 | 572 ? S 0:02 zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/gmc/koha-conf.xml | |
| 17:33 | cait | but it used to work? |
| 17:33 | what did you do before it broke? | |
| 17:33 | janPasi | it used to work, i got a report that it doesn't work just today |
| 17:34 | i don't know exactly what was done before it stopped working, i did ask, but i haven't gotten an answer yet | |
| 17:35 | cait | hm |
| 17:35 | janPasi | there seems to be messages about "uninitialized value $lang" from 8.4. onwards |
| 17:35 | cait | searching faq? |
| 17:35 | wahanui | it has been said that searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 17:35 | cait | perhaps something here gives you a hint? |
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| 17:38 | mveron | hi #koha |
| 17:38 | cait | hi mveron :) |
| 17:39 | janPasi | no help in faq |
| 17:39 | mveron | I'm about to re-install koha after a mysql crash. |
| 17:39 | janPasi | i don't understand how can it just stop working |
| 17:40 | mveron | Web-Installer › Step 3: ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 2821: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '- biblionumber int(11) NOT NULL, - rating_value tinyint(1) NOT NULL, - ' at line 2 |
| 17:40 | Seems that some comments are on the same line | |
| 17:41 | (...) borrowernumber int(11) NOT NULL, --- the borrower this rating is for (...) | |
| 17:41 | janPasi | god, this is frustrating... |
| 17:42 | cait | mveron: very recently pushed |
| 17:42 | you are installing master? | |
| 17:42 | mveron: and what did you do to crash mysql? I never ever managed to do that :) | |
| 17:42 | mveron | cait: yes, master |
| 17:42 | cait | ok |
| 17:42 | so let's check syntax for the ratings table :) | |
| 17:42 | it's a new feature | |
| 17:43 | perhaps something wrong slipped in | |
| 17:43 | janPasi | server reboot and it works?! |
| 17:43 | wtf XD | |
| 17:43 | cait | janPasi: not sure why, I still suspect zebrasrv |
| 17:43 | mveron | and: I tested a patch that went in an endless loop blowing up the log files (It was not my patch...). Then InnoDB was stuck. |
| 17:43 | janPasi | it's like running windows... |
| 17:44 | wizzyrea | zebra is a problem. |
| 17:45 | cait | mveron: hmm |
| 17:45 | can't spot it | |
| 17:45 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d0b7cdb02ce5e9773 | |
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| 17:45 | cait | you did a fresh install? or updating an older database? |
| 17:47 | janPasi | so what, i'll build a cronscript that restarts zebra every two weeks? :D |
| 17:48 | cait | hm it should work |
| 17:48 | how do you reindex? | |
| 17:48 | mveron | cait: I had to uninstall mysql +clear the data folder to get rid of the InnoDB errors. Ten I created a new db wit same name and settings as before, then I run th web installer. |
| 17:48 | cait | hm ok so fresh |
| 17:49 | janPasi | with rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a r every 10 minutes |
| 17:49 | mveron | cait: But I think there is really a syntax error on line t line 2821, I will test a fix. |
| 17:49 | janPasi | -r that is |
| 17:49 | cait | mveron: I think that's likely |
| 17:49 | janPasi | because -z doesn't seem to work properly either |
| 17:49 | cait | I was about to load the tables into a database |
| 17:49 | janPasi: oh | |
| 17:49 | hopefully you have a -z too? | |
| 17:49 | -b -a -r will do a full reindex every 10 minutes | |
| 17:49 | janPasi | umm... no, should i? |
| 17:49 | cait | -z will only update existing |
| 17:49 | um | |
| 17:49 | janPasi | yeah, it takes a while |
| 17:49 | cait | not existing, changed |
| 17:50 | using the zebraqueue table in your database | |
| 17:50 | to tell it which records have been touched | |
| 17:50 | will be much faster | |
| 17:50 | and you can set it to a shorter time | |
| 17:50 | janPasi | ok, i'll try that |
| 17:50 | so that's both -r and -z? | |
| 17:51 | i though they couldn't be used simultaneouslu | |
| 17:51 | *simultaneously | |
| 17:51 | wizzyrea | you don't use r and z at the same time |
| 17:51 | cait | no without -r |
| 17:51 | wizzyrea | you want your cron to use z |
| 17:51 | cait | what she says :) |
| 17:51 | wizzyrea | you want a full reindex to use r |
| 17:51 | cait | thx wizzyrea :) |
| 17:52 | mveron: I think it's the 'it's' in the comments | |
| 17:52 | janPasi | yeah, but -z didn't do it's job properly |
| 17:52 | wizzyrea | before the reboot or after |
| 17:52 | janPasi | dome items that were added didn't appear in the search results or something like that |
| 17:52 | *some :D | |
| 17:53 | so what use do i have for reindexing that doesn't really reindex | |
| 17:53 | cait | mveron: and the --- - when I change it's to it is and take out one - it works for me |
| 17:53 | janPasi | i guess i could try -z and wait for complaints from the users ;D |
| 17:54 | cait | janPasi: I think -z is what eveyone uses - so items not showing up should have a nother reason |
| 17:54 | mveron | cait: YI suppose the same, I'm about to change the file and test |
| 17:54 | wizzyrea | like perhaps your cron is running as the wrong user |
| 17:54 | or somesuch | |
| 17:54 | janPasi | cait: god knows :D |
| 17:54 | cait | I only loaded the one table to check - perhaps you could supply a patch? I will sign off :) |
| 17:54 | janPasi | cait: i've come to expect just about anything when working with library systems :D |
| 17:55 | does it really matter which user the cron runs as | |
| 17:55 | as long as zebra is able to read the indexes | |
| 17:56 | cait | dunno |
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| 17:58 | chris_n | this is slick: http://datatables.net/release-[…]nd_scrolling.html |
| 17:58 | janPasi | it might have also been that -z didn't properly remove the removed records from the search results |
| 17:59 | wizzyrea | janPasi: occasionally that just happens |
| 17:59 | janPasi | now that i think about it |
| 17:59 | wizzyrea | i've never been able to pin down why |
| 17:59 | chris_n | I love the rounded corners |
| 17:59 | wizzyrea | server load maybe |
| 17:59 | janPasi | no on this server it isn't :D |
| 17:59 | *not | |
| 17:59 | wizzyrea | users clicking onto something else too fast |
| 17:59 | janPasi | nope, unlikely |
| 17:59 | possible, of course, but unlikely | |
| 18:00 | wizzyrea | never underestimate the power of an impatient librarian. |
| 18:00 | janPasi | :D |
| 18:00 | amen :D | |
| 18:00 | wizzyrea | chris_n: that is purty |
| 18:00 | chris_n | @quote add <wizzyrea> never underestimate the power of an impatient librarian |
| 18:00 | huginn` | chris_n: The operation succeeded. Quote #201 added. |
| 18:00 | wizzyrea | would LOVE to see that on the items |
| 18:00 | chris_n | wizzyrea: and it does away with pesky pagination buttons |
| 18:00 | wizzyrea | in the intranet |
| 18:01 | yes, omg. yes. | |
| 18:01 | janPasi | well i changed the -r to -z, let's see who will be the first impatient librarian ;D |
| 18:01 | chris_n | furthermore, throw jEditable in the mix and you can edit rows/fields right in the table |
| 18:01 | * wizzyrea | faints |
| 18:01 | chris_n | if need be |
| 18:01 | * chris_n | cranks up the coffee pot |
| 18:02 | chris_n | I'd much rather be revived with coffee than cold water ;-) |
| 18:02 | wizzyrea | omg, a new edit items screen with this + editable |
| 18:02 | janPasi | then at least i'll be able to give an exact description on what exactly is wrong with -z |
| 18:02 | but i'm pretty sure it was to do with deleted records | |
| 18:02 | chris_n | wizzyrea: the possibilities are endless |
| 18:02 | wizzyrea | you could look in the zebraqueue table for done = 0, janpasi |
| 18:03 | janPasi | i think i'll just setup -r to run nightly and tell the users that deleted records will dissappear by the morning ;D |
| 18:03 | nobodys life really depends on this | |
| 18:04 | wizzyrea | or you could find the biblionumber and see if it even made it into the zebraqueue |
| 18:04 | for reindexing | |
| 18:04 | and if it's done = 0 that means it wasn't touched | |
| 18:04 | if it's not existent, you probably have a bug | |
| 18:04 | if it's done = 1 and it's not indexed right, then you might also have a bug. | |
| 18:05 | janPasi | ok... |
| 18:05 | i'll look into that next week | |
| 18:06 | right now i'll just make myself some tea ang get some sleep | |
| 18:07 | i have fever | |
| 18:07 | cait | get better soon |
| 18:07 | janPasi | cait: thanks :) |
| 18:07 | wizzyrea | oh yes, do not try and troubleshoot zebra whilst feverish |
| 18:07 | feel better soon. | |
| 18:07 | :) | |
| 18:07 | janPasi | wizzyrea: that sounds like a majorly bad idea to begin with :D |
| 18:08 | wizzyrea | it makes the crazy parts of zebra just *that much more crazy* |
| 18:08 | janPasi | could be quite a trippy experience :D |
| 18:08 | wizzyrea | hehe that's what I was thinking. |
| 18:08 | janPasi | maybe that should be tried with non-production system, though :D |
| 18:09 | anyway, thanks and see you :) | |
| 18:09 | wizzyrea | "I tried to troubleshoot zebra whilst feverish and all I got were MARC fields attacking me in my fever-dreams" |
| 18:10 | gl, later | |
| 18:10 | cait | that sounds nightmarish |
| 18:10 | wizzyrea | i kno rite |
| 18:14 | mveron | cait: I moved the comments to a new line. |
| 18:14 | cait: Then the script complained over an existing table pending_offline_operations | |
| 18:14 | cait: I inserted "DROP TABLE IF EXISTS `pending_offline_operations`;" then the script worked | |
| 18:14 | cait | try -- instead of --- (2 instead of 3) |
| 18:14 | I think you can keep them on the same line then | |
| 18:17 | * chris_n | thought MARC and nightmare were synonyms.... |
| 18:18 | * mveron | My first nam is Marc... |
| 18:18 | cait | lol |
| 18:18 | mveron: but you are not all capitals :) | |
| 18:19 | mveron | :-) |
| 18:19 | * mveron | Happy enough that my first name is no Mysql... |
| 18:20 | janPasi | mveron: i'm always afraid to ask what that 21 would stand for... >;D |
| 18:20 | My is the name of the mysql dev's daughter, though :D | |
| 18:21 | *always = almost | |
| 18:21 | mveron | janPasi: Age? Hmm... I'm 57... |
| 18:21 | janPasi | yeah... that's not really what i had in mind, but fair enough :D |
| 18:35 | mveron | cait: Shoud the install script thing go to a bug report or is it "im Griff"? |
| 18:35 | cait | mveron: I think we need a bug |
| 18:35 | or you could attach it as a follow up to the star ratings feature | |
| 18:36 | bug 5668 | |
| 18:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668 enhancement, P3, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , Star ratings in the opac |
| 18:36 | oleonard | Oh interesting... nengard's patron error was mentioned in Bug 7641 |
| 18:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add ability to suspend reserves. |
| 18:36 | cait | aha! |
| 18:36 | oleonard | Isn't this it nengard? http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=7641#c17 |
| 18:36 | huginn` | 04Bug 7641: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add ability to suspend reserves. |
| 18:36 | cait | I knew I had seen it somewhere! |
| 18:36 | not_going_crazy++ | |
| 18:37 | wizzyrea | oooo |
| 18:38 | i bet it is dates - how does it show suspended reserves on circ.pl? | |
| 18:38 | or in the holds tab | |
| 18:38 | oleonard | On the other hand, after placing a hold for someone and suspending it I /can/ still access their account |
| 18:38 | wizzyrea | moremember or circ/ |
| 18:38 | cait | some missing condition |
| 18:38 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I'm confused, because it doesn't look like it ever tells you when the suspension expires after you do it |
| 18:39 | wizzyrea | could she be missing a dependency? |
| 18:39 | date-format-parse or whatever it | |
| 18:39 | is | |
| 18:39 | you'd think it'd break more spectacularly than that if she were missing that | |
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| 18:44 | wizzyrea | AHA |
| 18:44 | suspend all | |
| 18:45 | if you do suspend all holds, it does it | |
| 18:45 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
| 18:46 | wizzyrea | possibly, if you suspend the hold from the patron screen? |
| 18:46 | I haven't checked that. | |
| 18:48 | did we lose "clone rules to another library" | |
| 18:49 | oh, never mind. it only appears once you have a rule to clone. | |
| 18:50 | nengard | WOO HOO |
| 18:51 | you all rock!! | |
| 18:54 | kyleh | I can produce that error now, I'll look into it. |
| 18:54 | wizzyrea | :) yay! |
| 18:54 | thanks :) | |
| 18:55 | cait | mveron: still around? |
| 18:55 | mveron | cait: yes, just filed the bug |
| 18:55 | cait | ah :) |
| 18:55 | was wondering - I could help you to make a patch for it if you want | |
| 18:55 | kyleh | if I remove the $KohaDates filter, the error goes away. |
| 18:55 | cait | you already fixed it :) |
| 18:57 | wizzyrea | stupid allowonshelfholds /me mutters a lot about not having it set to allow |
| 18:57 | no wonder nothing could be placed on hold >.< | |
| 18:58 | * wizzyrea | mutters more |
| 18:58 | oleonard | ^ me, two days ago |
| 18:58 | wizzyrea | did we change the default? |
| 18:58 | oleonard | I assumed I just hadn't worked with a fresh installation in so long I forgot the default |
| 18:58 | wizzyrea | I do blow up my test db fairly often. That muts be it |
| 18:59 | that and my feeling that independant branches (aside, that drives me NUTS that it's the french spelling) keeps mysteriously popping on. | |
| 18:59 | but that I'm pretyt sure is my own madness. | |
| 19:00 | ohthankgod. jeez. | |
| 19:00 | cait | hm? |
| 19:00 | oleonard | My madness is having to say it "independANT!" in my head |
| 19:00 | cait | with an ant in it? |
| 19:00 | eek | |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | half of the stuff in the catalog I couldn't put on hold because of allowonshelfholds |
| 19:00 | (my test catalog) | |
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| 19:02 | cait | wizzyrea: welcome to my world :) |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea: libraries here are almost never allowing on shelf holds | |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea | oyyy |
| 19:03 | you make people actually come in to get it off the shelf eh? | |
| 19:03 | or call to make a librarian do it | |
| 19:04 | cait | wizzyrea: exactly |
| 19:04 | wizzyrea: not paying for holds here | |
| 19:04 | in academic libraries | |
| 19:04 | they would just start putting everything on the shelf, if someone would fetch it for them | |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | interesting. |
| 19:05 | rangi | I'm failing to see the problem |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | it's a customer service thing here |
| 19:05 | no problem | |
| 19:05 | cait | rangi: not enough staff |
| 19:06 | wizzyrea | just different :) |
| 19:06 | cait | yep :) |
| 19:06 | different :) | |
| 19:06 | rangi | Yep and ull keep having less staff |
| 19:06 | That's my theory | |
| 19:07 | cait | there is not tradition for that here - it's not that they stopped doing it |
| 19:07 | rangi | Libraries exist to serve users |
| 19:07 | wizzyrea | ^^ it's a service, you either choose to provide or you don't |
| 19:07 | I think it's a good service | |
| 19:07 | cait | are you going to argue with me? not a good way to start your day? :) |
| 19:07 | rangi | *nod* |
| 19:07 | wizzyrea | to pull a book and have it waiting for a person |
| 19:07 | and if they do it if the person *calls* | |
| 19:07 | cait | wizzyrea: they do for checked out materials of course |
| 19:07 | wizzyrea | why not do it for people who use the website? |
| 19:07 | of course :) | |
| 19:07 | rangi | Not arguing just saying if libs want to exist |
| 19:08 | wizzyrea | they have to serve the users. |
| 19:08 | cait | they have to serve the users - I get it :) |
| 19:08 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 19:08 | cait | jinkx |
| 19:08 | jinx | |
| 19:08 | and now I forgot how to undo it again... | |
| 19:08 | * wizzyrea | looks around |
| 19:08 | *mutely | |
| 19:08 | rangi | Hire a student to pull reserves :) |
| 19:15 | cait | rangi: help me? |
| 19:15 | I have to unmute liz | |
| 19:15 | * wizzyrea | snickers |
| 19:16 | rangi | Tickle her |
| 19:16 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 19:16 | * wizzyrea | runs |
| 19:17 | * cait | hunts wizzyrea |
| 19:18 | cait | I am helping! stop running away! |
| 19:18 | * wizzyrea | writes on a piece of paper "pinch, poke, owe me a coke?" |
| 19:18 | gives cait a virtual coke | |
| 19:19 | cait | pinch, poke, owe me a coke! |
| 19:19 | (that right?) | |
| 19:19 | wizzyrea | something like that :) |
| 19:19 | cait | yay |
| 19:19 | unmuted liz :) | |
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| 19:23 | * cait | adds a tickle |
| 19:24 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 19:24 | cait | :) |
| 19:28 | wizzyrea | huh, interesting. http://mosh.mit.edu/ |
| 19:37 | rangi | Brrrr |
| 19:38 | chris_n | look interesting |
| 19:38 | wizzyrea | @wunder 66049 |
| 19:38 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Near Free State High, Lawrence, Kansas is 11.0°C (2:37 PM CDT on April 12, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:38 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 19:38 | huginn` | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on April 13, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:38 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:38 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.1°C (9:35 PM CEST on April 12, 2012). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:40 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 19:40 | huginn` | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 18.3°C (3:35 PM EDT on April 12, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 13%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:40 | * chris_n | wins ;-) |
| 19:46 | rangi | Full bus today |
| 19:48 | bag | @wunder 93109 |
| 19:48 | huginn` | bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 16.9°C (12:46 PM PDT on April 12, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1022 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:48 | wizzyrea | it's chilly here today, more april-like |
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| 19:54 | rangi | Hmm I like the diff favicon for staff client |
| 19:54 | cait | yep |
| 19:54 | think it#s a good idea | |
| 19:55 | wizzyrea | can't you set one already? |
| 19:55 | cait | I think you can change it |
| 19:55 | for opac | |
| 19:55 | with system preference... not sure | |
| 19:55 | have not used it so far | |
| 19:55 | wizzyrea | oh right. Yea, that's what I did on NExpress |
| 19:55 | the catalog uses a special one | |
| 19:55 | pastebot | "mveron" at 178.83.45.195 pasted "For cait regarding git diff" (26 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/342 |
| 19:55 | jcamins | You can change both, I think. |
| 19:55 | wizzyrea | I thought you could change both too |
| 19:56 | jcamins | I'm pretty sure. |
| 19:57 | rangi | Yep |
| 19:57 | But sane defaults is good | |
| 19:57 | jcamins | True. |
| 19:58 | * jcamins | thinks that an early feature in 3.10 should be the addition of a "Search sysprefs" tab on the main screen. |
| 19:59 | rangi | I want a list of what changed in the last update |
| 19:59 | Just the sysptefs | |
| 19:59 | So I can go look | |
| 20:00 | jcamins | That'd be super-nice. |
| 20:00 | rangi | Ie link the release notes into about and make them clickable |
| 20:00 | wizzyrea | oooo |
| 20:01 | rangi | My stop |
| 20:01 | jcamins | That'd be really nice! |
| 20:01 | * wizzyrea | wonders if you can have a permalink in wordpress that youc an attach to a specific post at a certain time, without recycling the post |
| 20:12 | * oleonard | is making good progress on a patch for Bug 7500 for the OPAC |
| 20:12 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading |
| 20:13 | schuster | ok I'm back to the self checkout link again. I can't get it to show on my new Koha instance as described in the documentation with the intranetuserjs |
| 20:14 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 20:14 | schuster | 11 - self checkout documentation has the JS there and I have used that with my 3.2 system, but with the 3.7 it doesn't want to show up. |
| 20:15 | cait | what does the js look like? |
| 20:16 | schuster | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]selfcheckout.html top of this documentation page |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | schuster: what else do you have in your intranetuserjs |
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| 20:17 | rangi | back |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | wb :) |
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| 20:20 | schuster | nothing... that's it. |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | schuster: there's a typo |
| 20:23 | $(document).ready(function(){ | |
| 20:23 | $("#login .submit").parent().after("<p><a href=\"http://YOUR_KOHA_OPAC_URL/cgi-bin/koha/sco/sco-main.pl\" target=\"_blank\">Self-Checkout</a></p>"); | |
| 20:23 | }); | |
| 20:23 | is what you need | |
| 20:23 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "for schuster" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/343 |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | with your URL of course. |
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| 20:25 | cait | wizzyrea++ :) |
| 20:25 | schuster | Thank you oh wizzyrea wizzardess of jq! |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea | yw |
| 20:25 | schuster | it's those little things... |
| 20:25 | Can you change the documentation for that? | |
| 20:26 | wizzyrea | not sure if it changed or if it was wrong all along. |
| 20:26 | well the docs you're looking at are for 3.2 | |
| 20:27 | but it's wrong in 3.6 too so | |
| 20:27 | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]selfcheckout.html | |
| 20:28 | in theory you can submit patches for the documentation. working with the docbook is no fun task though. | |
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| 20:30 | schuster | I only stumbled on it as my "conversion" didn't like what I had and the link wasn't showing up... So I was checking documentation! |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | seems a good plan :) |
| 20:31 | maybe we should add that one to the jquery library | |
| 20:31 | jquery library/ | |
| 20:31 | jquery library? | |
| 20:31 | wahanui | i guess jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/JQuery_Library |
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| 20:35 | chris_n | here's a couple of screenshots of the QOD feature I'm porting to master |
| 20:35 | http://www.screencast.com/t/uUz1hrk66 | |
| 20:35 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5668] Star ratings in the opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668> |
| 20:35 | jcamins | bywater++ |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | hehe! |
| 20:36 | nice! | |
| 20:36 | jcamins | So how many library schools are using Koha for instruction now? Four? |
| 20:37 | SJeffery | Which ones are those? |
| 20:38 | chris_n | wizzyrea: that table is done w/datatables and will have jeditable added to allow adding/editing quotes directly in the table |
| 20:38 | jcamins | SJeffery: Rutgers (per the press release from ByWater), Palmer, Mizzou, and another one which I can't quite remember the name of which I think is located somewhere on the West Coast. |
| 20:38 | cait | some in germany too :) |
| 20:38 | jcamins | Oooh. :) |
| 20:38 | cait | 2 I know of |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | oh boy, that's cool chris_n |
| 20:39 | SJeffery | I will prod my local library school a bit on the subject. I keep wanting to teach a class or session there. |
| 20:39 | schuster | University of North Texas is as well - |
| 20:39 | cait | and I think 1 in norway |
| 20:40 | jcamins | cait: yeah, at least one in Norway. |
| 20:40 | gmcharlt | ticket 18827 - that sounds like an issue you've been discussing with development |
| 20:40 | edveal | Anyone know much about SIP? |
| 20:40 | gmcharlt | oops, wrong channel |
| 20:40 | jcamins | gmcharlt: I always knew you were ahead of your time! |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | edveal - go ahead and ask |
| 20:41 | chris_n | at least it wasn't supersecretpassword ;) |
| 20:41 | SJeffery | chris_n: Now you have given away my root password! |
| 20:42 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 20:42 | chris_n | that and hitting 'reply-to-all' by accident are real nightmares |
| 20:42 | gmcharlt | I bring you all word from Koha 2020! |
| 20:43 | edveal | If a patron is restricted from checking out at $X.XX will Koha send the restriction via SIP to the self check? |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | I believe so yes |
| 20:43 | edveal | I think so too. |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | is this for envisionware? |
| 20:43 | pcres | |
| 20:43 | or whatever they refer to it as | |
| 20:43 | edveal | Yes, and that is the issue. |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | right |
| 20:44 | you have to set up a special rule | |
| 20:44 | one sec... I have it | |
| 20:44 | ...somewhere | |
| 20:44 | edveal | It is just looking for if they are a user or not. |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | you have to tell envisionware to filter based on that criteria |
| 20:44 | nothing to do with sip | |
| 20:44 | everything to do with pcres | |
| 20:44 | edveal | Right... I get! |
| 20:45 | jcamins | Does anyone have experience with VTLS? |
| 20:46 | Not migrating from VTLS, but actually using the system. | |
| 20:46 | cait | edveal: i think there as abug about fines and sip |
| 20:48 | mveron | Good night, #koha |
| 20:48 | edveal | Oh fun... |
| 20:48 | cait any idea of the bug number? | |
| 20:48 | cait | bug 7560 |
| 20:48 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7560 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , SIP Self Checkout Ignoring Fines Thresholds for Not Being able to Check Out Books |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | edveal: http://screencast.com/t/yRm9nsmA |
| 20:49 | yea, but this is pc reservation | |
| 20:49 | different thing :) | |
| 20:50 | cait | ok |
| 20:50 | edveal | wizzyrea and cait: Yes it is a PCRes issue but I need to know about the fine bug as well. |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | no use is handled by envisionware in this application |
| 20:51 | i get ya ;) | |
| 20:51 | edveal | wizzyrea I don't get your last statement? |
| 20:52 | wizzyrea | i mean, I follow that you'd need to know about fines bugs *and* the pcres stuff. |
| 20:52 | rangi | http://soundcloud.com/virginma[…]-ramble-on-virgin |
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| 21:09 | cait | night all! |
| 21:09 | cait left #koha | |
| 21:11 | schuster | by all whew what a day thanks for your help wizzyrea |
| 21:14 | wizzyrea | yw :) |
| 21:36 | talljoy | does the session time out affect the self checkout module? |
| 21:41 | rangi | rule 1? |
| 21:41 | wahanui | rumour has it rule 1 is "Don't Be A Dick!" |
| 21:42 | rangi | (need that for a quote) |
| 21:42 | talljoy | oh. almost had my feelings hurt |
| 21:42 | rangi | lol |
| 21:42 | that would be ironic | |
| 21:42 | as im writing an email on how to avoid that | |
| 21:42 | (hurting feelings in general) | |
| 21:43 | talljoy | yes. i've had enough beatings for the day. |
| 21:43 | :-/ | |
| 21:43 | i'm going to rephrase my question to see if i asked it wrong..... Does the timeout feature (SYS PREF) work in koha? | |
| 21:46 | jcamins | talljoy: I believe the label is wrong. |
| 21:46 | There was just a bug reported about that. | |
| 21:46 | talljoy | i'm reading bug 6701 and getting confused |
| 21:46 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6701 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , language on timeout system preference is wrong |
| 21:47 | jcamins | That's the one I was thinking of. |
| 21:47 | talljoy | so the timeout is seconds not milliseconds. |
| 21:47 | and I'm not impatient. lulz | |
| 21:49 | rangi | yes its seconds |
| 21:49 | 1d works too | |
| 21:50 | 1000d | |
| 21:50 | :) | |
| 21:50 | don't do that :) | |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | FOREVER |
| 21:50 | talljoy | heh |
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| 22:30 | eythian | hi |
| 22:30 | wahanui: aren't you supposed to reply to that? | |
| 22:30 | wahanui | eythian: no idea |
| 22:30 | eythian | heh |
| 22:30 | jcamins | Hi. |
| 22:31 | Hey | |
| 22:31 | Hey. | |
| 22:31 | Hi eythian | |
| 22:31 | eythian | I think it might be: |
| 22:31 | hello | |
| 22:31 | or not | |
| 22:31 | * eythian | gives up |
| 22:31 | eythian | hello jcamins |
| 22:31 | jcamins | Hello. :) |
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| 22:43 | rangi | ohh this is cool |
| 22:43 | http://www.actionti.com/accuei[…]12/finalistes2012 | |
| 22:44 | (do a search for koha) | |
| 22:55 | * talljoy | knew she shoulda studied french |
| 22:56 | rangi | translate.google.com does a good job |
| 22:56 | talljoy | :-) |
| 22:59 | much better | |
| 23:14 | eythian | oh yeah, I've got to learn french before I go there too. |
| 23:14 | should get on to that. | |
| 23:41 | http://git-legit.org/ | |
| 23:42 | rangi | too legit to quit |
| 23:42 | that does look nice | |
| 23:43 | eythian | it does |
| 23:44 | cjh | wow that looks really good |
| 23:45 | the 'stashes and restores unstaged changes' on branch switching is reason enough for me. | |
| 23:45 | rangi | :) |
| 23:47 | cjh | although "All remote operations are carried out by the first remote found." could cause problems |
| 23:48 | rangi | yeah you would have to be careful |
| 23:48 | eythian | hmm, that would be an issue for me too |
| 23:48 | cjh | I wonder how it 'finds' remotes |
| 23:49 | eythian | `git remote` probably |
| 23:49 | cjh | that should only apply for new branches though, every branch that is local and already remote has a remote assosiated with it, doesnt it? |
| 23:49 | eythian | hmm, that would seem reasonable, yeah. |
| 23:50 | actually, given I don't have the rights to push to the kc remote, it probably wouldn't be too dangerous. | |
| 23:50 | cjh | heh |
| 23:50 | rangi | yeah would be for me :) |
| 23:51 | cjh | sync is both ways though, so it may pull down changes from another remote with a branch of the same name and start merging them. |
| 23:51 | rangi | git.exc.GitCommandError: 'git push origin master' returned exit status 128: fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly |
| 23:51 | thats what happens :) | |
| 23:52 | cjh | heh |
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