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04:04 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
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05:04 | cait | hi #koha |
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05:13 | cait | hi Oak :) |
05:13 | Oak | hello miss cait :) |
05:16 | cait | mtj: still around? |
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05:38 | mtj | cait: here now... |
05:39 | cait | ah :) |
05:39 | was about the patch from marc | |
05:40 | mtj | ah, yep - thanx for updating the bug :) |
05:40 | cait | mtj: I did another sign off - want to add yours to the patch too? |
05:41 | mtj | yes, will do now |
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05:48 | mveron | Good morning #koha |
05:49 | vinod | hello all koha users |
05:49 | cait | guten morgen mveron :) |
05:50 | vinod | i am facing problem in import all data is imported successfully but call number does not shows |
05:51 | but call number shows in marc format and other detail views | |
05:51 | cait | where did you store the call number? |
05:51 | and did you import items? | |
05:51 | vinod | 082 $a and $b yes everything |
05:51 | cait | 082$b is not shown |
05:52 | you have to add the callnumbers to your items in 952 | |
05:52 | rangi | Needs to be on 952$o |
05:52 | cait | right $o :) |
05:52 | rangi | I think someone answered your email |
05:52 | cait | evening rangi |
05:52 | vinod | yes it is also automatically added |
05:52 | wahanui | okay, vinod. |
05:52 | cait | vinod: Koha does not show call numbers in the record, only in the items |
05:53 | rangi | You added it to 952? |
05:53 | cait | wahanui forget yes it |
05:53 | wahanui | cait: I forgot yes it |
05:54 | rangi | It won't automatically add it |
05:54 | vinod | during import i had given 082 field but it automatically takes in 952 $o also |
05:54 | rangi | What does? |
05:54 | wahanui | i guess does is calculate the discount on this price or the tax is removed before to calculte the discount on the price before taxes? |
05:54 | rangi | Koha doesn't |
05:55 | mtj | cait: done :) |
05:55 | vinod | when i tried to manually edit the item record, it was already call number was already there and after saving that shows the call number in opac also |
05:55 | rangi | Ok my bus stop bbl |
05:56 | vinod | please tell me what to do |
05:57 | cait | vinod: it only does that automatically when you use the cataloguing module |
05:57 | and add new items | |
05:57 | when you import data | |
05:57 | you have to have the infrmation in the right fields already | |
05:58 | vinod: when you edit an item, koha will check for 082 to present you with a suggestion for your callnumber, this is controlled by the itemcallnumber system preference - but it's only because you opened the item for editing. | |
05:58 | thx mtj :) | |
05:58 | mtj++ | |
05:59 | vinod | ok than what to do so that imported items can be viewed directly |
05:59 | mtj | cait++ too |
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06:02 | cait | vinod: put the callnumber in 952$o as rangi suggested |
06:02 | and then import them again | |
06:02 | or if you are good with sql you can also populate items.itemcallnumber and run a full reindex | |
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06:05 | vinod1 | please let me know how to add full call number in 952 $o field at the tie of bulk importing\ |
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06:07 | francharb | good morning |
06:09 | vinod1 | after importing bulk data, opac does not shows full call number in table form but it shows in marc format |
06:12 | hello anybody help please | |
06:14 | mtj | vinod1: use marcedit, or (my favourite) a perl script |
06:14 | heya francharb | |
06:14 | wahanui | francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke. |
06:15 | mtj | ok, off for a bit... |
06:15 | vinod1 | so do i need to add call number in 952 field also |
06:15 | before importing the data | |
06:15 | mtj | wahanui: dude, i know... i was sitting next to him :) |
06:15 | wahanui | mtj: excuse me? |
06:17 | mtj | elephanta island... was a great day! |
06:17 | alex_a | bonjour #koha |
06:17 | cait | hi alex_a |
06:17 | vinod1: yes | |
06:18 | mtj | vinod1: yes, add callnumber-info to 952$o subfield... before import into Koha |
06:19 | vinod1 | i have data in 082 $a and $b field please let me know in which format tags showl i add call number in 952 |
06:20 | mtj | vinod1: 952$o |
06:20 | @marc 952o | |
06:20 | huginn` | mtj: unknown tag 952o |
06:20 | vinod1 | in 952 only one field is there how can i add two fields as in 082 |
06:20 | francharb | 0/ mtj |
06:21 | mtj | @marc 952$o |
06:21 | huginn` | mtj: unknown tag 952$o |
06:21 | mtj | @marc 245a |
06:21 | huginn` | mtj: unknown tag 245a |
06:21 | mtj | @marc 245$a |
06:21 | huginn` | mtj: unknown tag 245$a |
06:22 | mtj | hmm, i'm not having much luck with the MARC plugin :) |
06:22 | @marc 245 | |
06:22 | huginn` | mtj: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8] |
06:23 | mtj | aaah, it wants a space ' ' |
06:23 | vinod1 | 952$o is a full call number field so how can i use 082$a and $b in single 952$o |
06:23 | mtj | @marc 952 o |
06:23 | huginn` | mtj: unknown field/subfield combination (952/o) |
06:23 | mtj | i always forget that... :/ |
06:24 | vinod1: i have never used marcedit... so i would use a perl script - for that | |
06:25 | a perl script to manipulate for bib records... before import into Koha | |
06:25 | cait | vinod1: you have to combine both fields into one 952$b |
06:25 | mtj | s/for/your/ |
06:26 | ok, gotta scoot now.... | |
06:26 | ciao #koha | |
06:26 | cait | bye mtj |
06:27 | vinod1 | means something like 952 $o500 KNM |
06:27 | 082$a 500$bKNM | |
06:28 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
06:28 | vinod1 | is there any way so that 952$o field should automatically pick data from 082 at the time of importing? |
06:29 | cait | welcome back magnuse :) |
06:29 | magnuse | thanks cait |
06:31 | vinod1 | is there any way so that 952$o field should automatically pick data from 082 at the time of importing? |
06:34 | cait | no |
06:36 | vinod1 | =952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p1000$yBK |
06:36 | =952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p663$yBK | |
06:36 | =082 \\$a621.3$bKNO | |
06:36 | please tell me how can i add the call number in above items | |
06:37 | the record is only one | |
06:38 | for two or more items i have only one record and the call number is common how i can i add call number to each item | |
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06:42 | reiveune | hello |
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06:52 | samuel | hi everybody! |
06:58 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
06:58 | rangi = are you about ? ( and available for a few dozen of min to speak of Release process ? ) | |
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07:05 | julian_m | hello |
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07:07 | asaurat | hi |
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07:18 | gaetan_B | hello #koha :) |
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07:29 | kf | good morning #koha |
07:29 | magnuse | guten morgen kf |
07:31 | samuel | good morning kf & magnuse |
07:31 | magnuse | hiya samuel |
07:31 | paul_p | hello kf & magnuse & samuel |
07:32 | kf | hi magnuse, samuel and paul_p :) |
07:32 | magnuse | bonjour paul_p |
07:33 | * kf | wonders how to translate 'item floats' |
07:35 | samuel | kf: in which language do you want to translate "item floats"? |
07:36 | asaurat | kf: Freizugigkeitsbescheinigung |
07:37 | kf | samuel: German - it's ok |
07:37 | I opted for describing it | |
07:37 | "item stays where it was returned" | |
07:37 | samuel | yeah, sounds good |
07:37 | kf | asaurat: Wildschwein? :) |
07:38 | asaurat | ok, these are my two favorite words in German :D |
07:38 | samuel | :-) |
07:39 | kf | :D |
07:40 | esofiane | Hi everybody |
07:41 | kf | hi esofiane |
07:42 | rangi | paul_p: i am now |
07:42 | paul_p | rangi wonderful ! |
07:43 | so, my question was to know how you did the releases | |
07:43 | (+ you wanted to speak of something yesterday) | |
07:45 | rangi | the hard bit is writing the release notes |
07:46 | to roll the release i did | |
07:49 | perl Makefile.PL | |
07:49 | make | |
07:50 | make manifest tardist | |
07:50 | then you end up with a tar.gz | |
07:51 | paul_p | rangi about the release notes, I agree it's a big deal. I've started already, and will submit something before the release, for proof reading and/or comments |
07:51 | rangi | but with git you can do |
07:53 | git archive --format=tar --prefix=koha-3.8.0/ master | gzip > koha-3.8.0.tar.gz | |
07:53 | gpg -sb koha-3.8.0.tar.gz | |
07:55 | md5sum koha-3.8.0.tar.gz > koha-3.8.0.tar.gz.MD5 | |
07:56 | gpg --clearsign koha-3.8.0.tar.gz.MD5 | |
07:57 | you also want to tag it in git | |
07:57 | with git tag annotate | |
07:57 | and branch too | |
07:58 | paul_p | tagging & branching, I was aware. I discover (and carefully write) the make manifest tardist & git archive ! |
07:59 | rangi | what i did was make the tarball |
07:59 | then install it in a vm | |
08:00 | to make sure it worked, before i brnached, tagged, and signed it etc | |
08:03 | kf | 12933 words need attention *sigh* |
08:03 | magnuse | 34383 words need attention *2x sigh* |
08:04 | rangi | heh |
08:04 | kf | magnuse: ok, you win :) |
08:05 | magnuse | or loose... |
08:06 | kf | is that bokmal only= |
08:06 | magnuse | but *a lot* of it is fuzzy strings that can just be ok'd :-) |
08:06 | kf | ? |
08:06 | magnuse | kf: yup |
08:06 | kf | ouch |
08:06 | magnuse | i try not to think about nynorsk at all |
08:06 | kf | does it work? |
08:06 | magnuse | not thinking about it? |
08:09 | or ok'ing? | |
08:19 | kf | not thinking about it :) |
08:19 | magnuse | yeah, that works really well |
08:20 | i don't know nynorsk wel enough to do anything about it anyway... | |
08:23 | kf | :) |
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09:46 | slef | wahanui: faq? |
09:46 | wahanui | i think faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
09:51 | kf | hi slef :) |
09:51 | slef | hi all |
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10:54 | drojf | good day #koha |
10:57 | slef: how long is the abstract for a kohacon paper supposed to be? | |
10:58 | slef | drojf: a reasonable paragraph, probably 100 words or less I think. |
10:59 | drojf | ok thanks |
10:59 | slef | drojf: as long as it needs to be to get passed by a reviewer |
10:59 | drojf | :) |
10:59 | slef | drojf: kf, Brooke or rangi might have tips. |
10:59 | we have had one abstract that looked like it could be the entire talk so far! | |
10:59 | drojf | heh |
11:00 | kf | ;) |
11:00 | drojf | no idea if i will be allowed to come to kohacon, the person in charge is gone until next week. but i still have some hope |
11:14 | * slef | drafts an announcement about sponsorship |
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11:31 | slef | announcement emailed |
11:32 | thanks fredericd and magnuse ! | |
11:32 | kf | fredericd++ magnuse++ |
11:33 | magnuse | huh? yay! |
11:33 | slef | if anyone has time to turn that email into a post on koha-community.org before I do, that would be great |
11:34 | magnuse | fredericd++ |
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11:58 | slef | "Sorry, this file type is not permitted for security reasons" |
11:58 | :-/ | |
11:58 | * slef | converts it |
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12:07 | magnuse | slef: exe ftw! |
12:12 | slef | magnuse: it was svg. Can that even contain executable code? |
12:12 | magnuse | no idea! |
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12:12 | kf | probably only missing in a list of allowed formats? |
12:12 | magnuse | that would do it |
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12:21 | slef | no matter - converted |
12:21 | it accepted PNG | |
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12:23 | oleonard | Hi all |
12:24 | slef | hi all? |
12:24 | wahanui | yeah, yeah, hello, hello. Now fix some bugs for me, please. |
12:24 | paul_p | good morning oleonard |
12:25 | samuel | i've the following error "Can't locate Log/Log Lite.pm in @INC" with sudoc loader: i think it's a problem with a missing perl module but which? |
12:26 | kf | hi oleonard |
12:26 | samuel: not sure what the sudoc loader is? | |
12:26 | magnuse | samuel: my guess: Log::LogLite |
12:27 | samuel | it is for french universities |
12:28 | kf | ah, right |
12:28 | not sure then | |
12:29 | samuel | a bit long to explain. |
12:30 | kf | it's ok, I work for bsz - we also have pica as software for our union catalog |
12:30 | I think i have an idea what it does :) | |
12:31 | oleonard | samuel: That's an error you're getting from Koha? |
12:35 | samuel | yes and i've now another problem with the module "Log:: LogLite" when i want to make the install |
12:35 | make test PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/lib" "-Iblib/arch" test.pl 1..6 Can't locate IO/LockedFile.pm in @INC (@INC contains: blib/lib blib/arch /usr/share/perl/5.10 /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at blib/lib/Log/Log | |
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12:38 | oleonard | I don't find any reference to "LogLite" in Koha code |
12:40 | samuel | this is the link of the tool which would be useful for us http://git.biblibre.com/?p=sudoc.git;a=summary |
12:41 | * oleonard | passes the conversation to paul_p |
12:41 | slef | package found: libio-lockedfile-perl - IO::LockedFile Class - supply object methods for locking files |
12:41 | package found: liblog-loglite-perl - Perl module that facilitates lightweight logging | |
12:41 | ||
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12:57 | mveron | Hi #koha |
12:58 | After learning to create patches from KF I just commited my first enhancenment patch: Bug 7621 [ENH]- Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories | |
12:58 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7621 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories |
12:58 | mveron | Hope I did it the right way :-) |
12:59 | magnuse | mveron++ |
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13:02 | samuel | slef: i make on cpan "look Log::LogLite", it 's ok but the problem begin when i do "make test" |
13:06 | kyleh | can the $KohaDates filter handle datetimes? Could that be the problem with the suspend reserves error? |
13:09 | nope, changed to datetime to date, no difference. | |
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13:20 | * mveron | Has to give driving lessons to his daughter |
13:20 | mveron | Bye #koha |
13:22 | kyleh | tried a fresh install from master and got this: ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 2821: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '- biblionumber int(11) NOT NULL, - rating_value tinyint(1) NOT NULL, - ' at line 2 |
13:22 | slef | samuel: you probably wantto install packages not use cpan |
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13:23 | slef | kyleh: search the mysql tree for that near string, probably kohastructure.sql |
13:25 | magnuse | kyleh: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=5668#c87 |
13:25 | huginn` | 04Bug 5668: blocker, P3, ---, mtj, Passed QA , Star ratings in the opac |
13:29 | paul_p | (i'm about to push the follow-up for 5668 |
13:29 | ) | |
13:31 | samuel | slef: that's what i do , instead of using cpan |
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13:34 | kyleh | the issue is the ratings table in kohastructure.pl, but I'm not sure what the problem is. |
13:34 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #712 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
13:35 | magnuse | kyleh: have a look at the comments here: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=5668#c87 |
13:35 | huginn` | 04Bug 5668: enhancement, P3, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , Star ratings in the opac |
13:35 | magnuse | paul_p is pushing a fix for it now |
13:36 | paul_p | kyleh push fixed 2mn ago |
13:36 | kyleh | paul_p, excellent! |
13:42 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5668' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1046b66d790aefeae> / Bug 5668 Error during during insall with web installer, Step 3 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9da4c1ea031635917> |
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13:45 | benjix | 14:44benjixI need help 14:44benjixcan any one help out 14:44benjixI install koha on opensuse11.4 14:45benjixit was working but an update has changed everything |
13:45 | clrh | hello |
13:45 | wahanui | bonjour, clrh |
13:45 | benjix | hi |
13:46 | this problem displays | |
13:46 | how so i solve it? | |
13:46 | clrh | thx kf for your comment on 7956 I don't know very well the community workflow on translation (I know it's bad) I just know that before the patch I have "failed" in update and after it is ok |
13:48 | benjix | k |
13:48 | thnak | |
13:48 | who to restart apache2 | |
13:48 | its missing from my installation | |
13:48 | how do I get it back? | |
13:49 | oleonard | Apache needs to be restarted, or it isn't installed? |
13:52 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5345 [FOLLOW-UP] DataTables in Koha <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1215af757ca86d148> |
13:53 | magnuse | looks like zebra/koha can index georgian script out of the box - yay! |
13:53 | benjix | how to get it installed back is the major problem |
13:55 | oleonard | benjix: If Apache is not installed I suggest you search for instructions on how to install Apache on opensuse. We're not experts on that. |
13:57 | benjix: I see there is an INSTALL file for opensuse but it's a couple of years old | |
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14:06 | * wizzyrea | waves |
14:08 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
14:17 | wizzyrea | kf: is the page better? |
14:20 | kf | sorry, longer meeting |
14:20 | wizzyrea | is np, I just got in |
14:21 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #712: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/712/ |
14:21 | veron: Bug 5668 Error during during insall with web installer, Step 3 | |
14:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668 enhancement, P3, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , Star ratings in the opac |
14:21 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #713 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
14:22 | kf | paul_p: remember to add marc veron to the history? :) |
14:24 | kyleh: about 7641 - the plugin should be included in the template, not in the pl file | |
14:28 | * wizzyrea | pokes for a signoff on 7953 |
14:28 | wizzyrea | bug 7953 |
14:28 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7953 trivial, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Needs Signoff , opacuserjs to the sco template |
14:30 | kyleh | kf: how does one include the plugin the template? |
14:33 | kf | it's documented on the wiki |
14:34 | check the coding guidelines | |
14:34 | coding guidelines? | |
14:34 | wahanui | coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
14:34 | slef | wahanui: have a poisoned botsnack |
14:34 | wahanui | thanks slef :) |
14:34 | slef | wahanui: paul_p? |
14:34 | wahanui | well, paul_p is the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee. |
14:34 | slef | wahanui: the issue? |
14:35 | wahanui | the issue is, like, that his barcodes don't match what he entered into the system |
14:35 | slef | wahanui: apache? |
14:35 | wahanui | hmmm... apache is the ram hog |
14:35 | paul_p | slef, here |
14:35 | slef | paul_p: I was just wondering what wahanui would say about you |
14:35 | kf | paul_p: taking advantage of you being here - add marc veron to the history! :) |
14:35 | paul_p | true things ;-) |
14:35 | kf yep | |
14:35 | kf | thx :) |
14:41 | magnuse | nengard++ for all the help files |
14:41 | nengard | :) |
14:41 | still working | |
14:43 | kyleh | kf: thanks, I thought the KohaDates plugin was included in all templates already. |
14:43 | kf | only in templates where it's used |
14:43 | I think at the moment it's still a work in progress, some modules are covered, but not sure all | |
14:44 | julian_m and asaurat did a bunch during hackfest | |
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14:50 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
14:53 | drojf | hi jcamins |
15:02 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7902 - Adding Function to Check for Existence of Tables <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d4faedbc42c8af9ce> / Bug 7936: Reports Help Files for 3.8 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1c16945be0ba3af8d> / Bug 7936: Patron Help Files <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a99852ccf8643c3f1 |
15:03 | esofiane | Bye :) |
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15:07 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #713: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/713/ |
15:07 | oleonard: Bug 5345 [FOLLOW-UP] DataTables in Koha | |
15:07 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , DataTables in Koha |
15:08 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #714 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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15:16 | reiveune | BYE |
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15:47 | kf | wizzyrea++ thank youQ |
15:47 | thank you! even | |
15:47 | wizzyrea | yw |
15:47 | kf | and bye all and have a nice weekend :) |
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15:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #714: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/714/ |
15:54 | * nengard: Bug 7936: 3.8 Help Files | |
15:54 | * nengard: Bug 7936: Help file for Lists | |
15:54 | * nengard: Bug 7936: Cataloging Help Files | |
15:54 | * nengard: Bug 7936: Tools Help for 3.8 | |
15:54 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7936 major, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , general ticket for 3.8 help file updates |
15:54 | jenkins_koha | * nengard: Bug 7936: Tags help file |
15:54 | * nengard: Bug 7936: Marc Export Help File | |
15:54 | * nengard: Bug 7936: Authorities Help Files | |
15:54 | * nengard: Bug 7936: Suggestion help file | |
15:54 | * nengard: Bug 7936: Comments Moderation Help File | |
15:54 | * nengard: Bug 7936: Holds Help File for 3.8 | |
15:54 | * nengard: Bug 7936: Circ Help Files | |
15:54 | * nengard: Bug 7936: Label Help Files | |
15:54 | * nengard: Bug 7936: Patron Card Help Files | |
15:54 | * nengard: Bug 7936: Catalogue Help Files | |
15:54 | * nengard: Bug 7936: Patron Help Files | |
15:54 | * nengard: Bug 7936: Reports Help Files for 3.8 | |
15:54 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7902 - Adding Function to Check for Existence of Tables | |
15:54 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7902 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Master , Adding Function to Check for Existence of Tables |
15:58 | nengard | 2 more folders of help files! almost there |
16:18 | slef | Changes submitted for bug 7729 - there's a patch for new_bib which needs signoff, please. |
16:18 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , svc API should allow modification of items |
16:18 | slef | no string changes AFAIK |
16:26 | gaetan_B | bye! |
16:31 | nengard | oleonard around? |
16:31 | oleonard | Yes |
16:32 | nengard | you got the offline circ ff plugin to work right? |
16:33 | would you mind giving me some tips? cause it's still not working for me and i need to document it and write the help file | |
16:33 | oleonard | What's not working? |
16:34 | nengard | i put a barcode in the checkin and it doesn't save or go in the log - i do the same on checkout and it doesn't save or go in the log |
16:35 | basically it doesn't do anything | |
16:35 | jwagner | nengard, see my update on Bug 7524 -- same problem, there are underlying errors |
16:35 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7524 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Make it possible to generate a .koc file using the Firefox KOCT plugin |
16:35 | nengard | does the server field need an http:// |
16:35 | hmmm | |
16:35 | oleonard | In mine it has it nengard |
16:35 | nengard | k |
16:35 | i'll try that | |
16:35 | once i get FF to retart | |
16:36 | it crashed | |
16:36 | * wizzyrea | retarts firefox all the time, the little web vixen. |
16:36 | nengard | grrrr lost everything i had open :( |
16:36 | oleonard | My problem is usually not getting it to restart but getting it to stop altogether when I want it to |
16:37 | jcamins | I think I'll continue using Chrome. |
16:37 | (not for offline circ, just generally) | |
16:38 | wizzyrea: how do you end up with a gazillion tabs if you're always restarting the browser? | |
16:38 | oleonard | Session restore? |
16:38 | wizzyrea | re-tart not restart |
16:38 | jcamins | lol |
16:38 | * wizzyrea | made a funny that wasn't funny. |
16:38 | jcamins | I missed that. |
16:39 | wizzyrea | plus, I use chrome P |
16:39 | :P | |
16:41 | slef | mmmm... apple retarts |
16:41 | wizzyrea | :) |
16:41 | slef | wizzyrea: do you hate freedom? ;) |
16:41 | wizzyrea | do you? |
16:42 | slef | well I have chromium installed but I only use it for video |
16:42 | wizzyrea | admittedly, I don't eat fries, french or otherwise. |
16:42 | oh oh | |
16:42 | slef | its user interface makes me want to kill its makers |
16:42 | wizzyrea | that freedom. |
16:42 | * wizzyrea | uses chromium on linux, chrome on mac |
16:42 | slef | it's missing features and there are next to no add-ons |
16:42 | wizzyrea | hmm |
16:43 | slef | it's very hard to stop it leaking all your data to google and websites |
16:43 | jcamins | wizzyrea: not even sweet potato fries? |
16:43 | wizzyrea | well ok, sometimes those. |
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16:43 | oleonard | Mmmm... french fries... |
16:44 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I thought so. Who can resist sweet potato fries? |
16:44 | slef | I think bad browsers like chrome is why we now have cookielaw.org |
16:44 | jcamins | No one, that's who! |
16:44 | * oleonard | checks the clock for proximity to lunch time |
16:44 | wizzyrea | oleonard: I think it's past lunch time in your timezone |
16:44 | oleonard | 1PM for me |
16:44 | wizzyrea | ah so |
16:44 | slef | *** Time by oleonard is Friday, April 13, 2012 12:44:22 PM |
16:44 | :) love ctcp | |
16:45 | nengard | k - whole computer crashed |
16:46 | i think it's time for lunch - then i'll try this ff plugin thing again | |
16:46 | worst case i don't write a help file for it yet | |
16:46 | * oleonard | is now getting "authentication failed" from the KOCT |
16:47 | * wizzyrea | will try it |
16:48 | nengard_lunch | that's more than i got |
16:48 | i was gonna record it but then my computer crashed | |
16:48 | really going to lunch now :) hehe | |
16:51 | * oleonard | gets nothing in the KOCT log when using it in Ubuntu |
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16:53 | wizzyrea | well I got it to work on ff on mac |
16:53 | but what's the difference between "apply directly" and "commit to koha" | |
16:54 | commit to koha gives "success" and apply directly, if you haven't committed first, gives "added" | |
16:54 | it would not do a renewal | |
16:55 | check in seems to work ok | |
16:55 | of course, you miss the "hold found" messages | |
16:55 | if you check in one that's on hold for someone else | |
16:55 | * wizzyrea | double checks that |
16:56 | wizzyrea | right. No hold found messages are processed anywhere. that's a bit of a bug I think. |
16:56 | at least you need to get a report out that says "hey you, double check this item" | |
16:57 | jcamins | wizzyrea: you mean for all check-ins? |
16:57 | wizzyrea | for koct checkins |
16:58 | jcamins | wizzyrea: right, I meant, all check-ins done using the KOCT plugin. |
16:58 | wizzyrea | right |
16:58 | cait | hi all |
16:58 | :) | |
16:58 | wizzyrea | hi cait :) |
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17:13 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Quick (hopefully) Question: How do you create a borrowers.db file to use with the Koha Offline Circulation tool? |
17:14 | cait | YoungPublicLibrarian: I think you need to run a script on command line for that |
17:14 | I have never tried it out so far :( | |
17:14 | wizzyrea | it's in misc/cronjobs I think |
17:14 | create_koc_db.pl | |
17:15 | YoungPublicLibrarian | misc/cronjobs? I don't know what that means...:( |
17:16 | jcamins | That's where the file is. |
17:17 | You'll probably need libeo to set it up for you. | |
17:18 | YoungPublicLibrarian | lol, maybe I should stop asking. Considering I haven't the slightest clue what libeo is either... |
17:18 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: who is your support vendor? |
17:18 | YoungPublicLibrarian: I meant your support vendor, whoever they are. | |
17:19 | I thought I remembered hearing that they won an award for their work with you. :) | |
17:19 | I also thought I remembered hearing that a support vendor called "Libeo" won an award. | |
17:19 | I combined the two to conclude that you worked with a vendor called Libeo. ;) | |
17:21 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Ah! Bywater Solutions is our vendor... |
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17:21 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: whoops... got you confused with a different library, I think. You're not located in Quebec, are you? |
17:22 | YoungPublicLibrarian: ByWater can generate the offline circulation database for you. | |
17:22 | wizzyrea | remember that it's always a skosh out of date |
17:22 | ad you'll have to remember to download it *before* you go offline | |
17:22 | jcamins | Sometimes more than a skosh. |
17:22 | wizzyrea | otherwise it's no use to you |
17:22 | or of less use. | |
17:25 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Ah okay. Well we haven't actually went live yet. But our old system is crashing and the director wanted to use the offline tool until our Koha system went live... |
17:26 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: you'd need to talk to ByWater about that... I don't it'd work unless you made your old system entirely read-only until go-live. |
17:28 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Hmm...from what the director said ByWater suggested using it. Our old system is Voyager... |
17:28 | wizzyrea | and it won't process renewals or fill holds. How long are we talking about |
17:28 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: well, you'll definitely need to talk to ByWater. |
17:29 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Wizzyrea: We go live on the 23rd of April |
17:29 | Jcamins: Okay, thanks for all the information! | |
17:29 | wizzyrea | a week would be a long time on offline circ |
17:30 | jcamins | I wouldn't want to use offline circ as a stopgap for more than a few days, because you won't be able to handle renewals or holds, and if ByWater doesn't have a completely current dump of your Voyager database, it'll get very, very confused. |
17:30 | wizzyrea | right, and no adding patrons, no deleting patrons |
17:30 | jcamins | No collecting fines. |
17:31 | Probably no reshelving, due to the holds issue. | |
17:31 | wizzyrea | in some ways it might be better to just use a spreadsheet, and track cards/items that way |
17:31 | jcamins | ^^ |
17:31 | wizzyrea | and track renewals in a separate file |
17:31 | and checkins | |
17:31 | because then, when you go back and put the data in on your live system | |
17:31 | YoungPublicLibrarian | I thought you could use the offline circ for collecting fines? |
17:31 | wizzyrea | all of the usual things happen. |
17:31 | * wizzyrea | was just looking at it |
17:32 | wizzyrea | I saw no place to collect fines. |
17:32 | at least not using the firefox addon | |
17:32 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Ah, no ByWater told us never to use the firefox addon because it was broke. They have a downloadable tool that we install on the computer and use as an application... |
17:33 | wizzyrea | do note, we have 40 libraries, and we use a spreadsheet. |
17:33 | YoungPublicLibrarian | We have over 70 libraries...but I'm sure we could manage it... |
17:34 | wizzyrea | i haven't used the app one lately, last time I tested it, it was broken in ways that made me not want to use it. |
17:35 | but that has been a while | |
17:35 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: even if that supports fine collection, the reason I had in mind that you couldn't collect fines was that until ByWater gets the final dump from your Voyager database, the fine information in Koha will be unreliable. |
17:35 | wizzyrea: looks like it was last updated in October 2010. | |
17:35 | wizzyrea | not to mention not updating |
17:35 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Here is the link that ByWater provided us: http://millruntech.com/downloa[…]ulation-1-2-setup |
17:35 | wizzyrea | sounds like a mess |
17:35 | yep, that's the version I last tested. | |
17:36 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Yeah, a mess sums up the entire situation! :/ |
17:36 | Wizzyrea and Jcamins: Thanks for all the help! At least I understand a bit more than I did before! | |
17:37 | wizzyrea | I don't mean to sound negative - I don |
17:37 | really don't | |
17:37 | it's just - a week is a long time, you probably have pretty high volume | |
17:37 | no renewals, no holds processed, no fines processed (or it would be very messy if it was) | |
17:37 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: you might try using Voyager's offline circ, then shut down the OPAC a day early, and spend that day replaying the circs so that you can give ByWater a current dump? |
17:37 | * jcamins | hasn't tried that. |
17:38 | jcamins | And I have no idea how long replaying offline circs takes in Voyager. |
17:38 | wizzyrea | jcamins: I think their server is like, deaths door crashing |
17:38 | jcamins | wizzyrea: right, so it only has to be up for one day. |
17:38 | YoungPublicLibrarian | ^^ Exactly! |
17:38 | We haven't been able to catalogue in almost three weeks! :( | |
17:39 | wizzyrea | yikes. |
17:39 | jcamins | I think spreadsheets are the way to go. |
17:40 | A week is a *long* time, though. | |
17:42 | YoungPublicLibrarian | And very few people in at least half the libraries in our system have any decent understanding of spreadsheets...:S |
17:42 | wizzyrea | here's what we do |
17:42 | column A: patron | |
17:42 | column b: book barcode | |
17:42 | returns can go in column d or e or f or wherever | |
17:43 | then, when you are ready to replay them, you grab a page | |
17:43 | and go at it, copy/paste style. | |
17:43 | it's tedious. | |
17:43 | it'll take a while | |
17:43 | but it will work | |
17:43 | and you won't miss things. | |
17:43 | cait | hm |
17:43 | you could also use 2 text files | |
17:43 | one for returns and one for checouts | |
17:43 | wizzyrea | that has been done too |
17:43 | cait | and scan the barcodes in there |
17:44 | wizzyrea | we like spreadsheets because the data is segregated |
17:44 | cait | but always be careful... whatever you use |
17:44 | wizzyrea | yea, no crazy scanning. |
17:44 | go slowly, be aware. | |
17:44 | like riding a motorcycle. | |
17:44 | responsibly. | |
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17:45 | YoungPublicLibrarian | It would take me 10 minutes to explain how to set up and use just the columns to most of the people in my library alone... |
17:47 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: I don't think the offline circ option would be *easier*. |
17:47 | wizzyrea | well, you've got two options - get the data and processes right, or use the offline circ |
17:47 | and really, confusion wise | |
17:47 | they're about equal. | |
17:47 | jcamins | Except some people will know how to use spreadsheets. |
17:47 | wizzyrea | and no one will know how to use offline circ. |
17:47 | jcamins | Right. |
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17:50 | talljoy_away | YoungPublicLibrarian: hi! if you plan to use the offline circ tool, you will need a borrowers.db file and that can be given to you before your official go live date. |
17:51 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: here's a suggestion: you have highschoolers as pages in a bunch of your libraries, right? |
17:51 | They're probably there during your peak periods. | |
17:51 | Have them at the circ desks. | |
17:51 | talljoy_away | ha! more tech savvy than their elders often! |
17:52 | wizzyrea | at least trained in excel. |
17:52 | jcamins | talljoy_away: most of them will be able to figure out Excel, at least. |
17:52 | Increasingly, using spreadsheets is a skill taught in highschool. | |
17:52 | Maybe even elementary or middle school, though I don't know anyone who has been to either of those recently. | |
17:52 | talljoy | my 8 year old knows spreadsheets better than me. lol |
17:53 | jcamins | There you go. |
17:53 | talljoy | had to create graphs for his science project. he had to teach me. |
17:53 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: make the next week "bring your child to work week." |
17:53 | talljoy | LOL |
17:56 | jcamins | I am not entirely joking. |
18:02 | YoungPublicLibrarian | That's not a bad idea...except it would be bring your "grand child" to work week! And only our school libraries have high schoolers for pages...Which is only about a third of our system... |
18:03 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: who do you have for pages in your public libraries? |
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18:04 | druthb | o/ |
18:04 | talljoy | hi druthb! |
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18:07 | YoungPublicLibrarian | We don't...there are cataloguers and circulation assistants...most of our libraries do not use pages... |
18:08 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: and the circ assistants do shelving? |
18:10 | * druthb | catches up from the logs. |
18:10 | druthb | jcamins, wizzyrea, talljoy: Part of the problem with using Voyager offline circ, as I understand it from George at Latah, is that it only does checkouts--not checkins. *INSANE* |
18:11 | jcamins | druthb: yeah, but they can't reshelve anything anyway. |
18:11 | talljoy | right, i guess i was referring to the offline Koha circulation. |
18:11 | jcamins | druthb: because the Koha offline circ won't catch holds anyway. |
18:12 | talljoy | right. and no fines |
18:12 | * druthb | nods |
18:12 | YoungPublicLibrarian | yes, circ assistants do shelving, circ desk, computer support, and anything else needed in the library.... |
18:14 | druthb | YoungPublicLibrarian: you're using Mibbit to chat with us in here, aren't you? Look up there^^^ there's *at least* one box flashing, indicating private messages for you. :) |
18:16 | YoungPublicLibrarian | druthb: LOL! Why yes I am! But they aren't flashing, just grey tabs showed up...and I was completely oblivious to them! |
18:16 | druthb | :) |
18:16 | talljoy | :-D |
18:17 | * druthb | can't hardly use Mibbit--the message boxes are a little *too* unobtrusive; I have my Pidgin set to scream like a banshee when someone PMs me. |
18:18 | talljoy | my pings and pings and pings all day. whenever you say my name! heh |
18:19 | oleonard | Everyone be considerate to talljoy and only say talljoy's name when you really have something to say to talljoy |
18:19 | talljoy | lol |
18:19 | ping ping | |
18:19 | ping | |
18:19 | druthb | oleonard: That talljoy is pretty darn amazing, isn't she? |
18:19 | jcamins | oleonard: stop picking on talljoy. |
18:19 | talljoy | talljoy? |
18:19 | wahanui | I CRUNCH DATA or kicking butt at words with friends |
18:19 | talljoy | may need to update that to "enjoys seeing her name in lights" lol |
18:19 | cait | hehe |
18:20 | * jcamins | uses irssi, the ultimate in unobtrusive messaging. |
18:23 | nengard | i think i'm done with the help files |
18:23 | at the very least all the links to the manual are updated | |
18:24 | we might need some new help files ? hopefully not | |
18:34 | jcamins | nengard: I bet you could write a unit test for xt/ that would check automatically that everything had a help file. |
18:34 | nengard | maybe someone could :) not sure if I could |
18:34 | jcamins | It would also force people to provde help files when they add new features. |
18:39 | nengard | what field populates the biblio.copyrightdate field? |
18:39 | the 008 or the 260? | |
18:42 | jcamins? | |
18:42 | wahanui | somebody said jcamins was an outstanding cook, well-traveled and brilliant, trying to think of a solution, or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra |
18:43 | nengard | hehe |
18:43 | cait | 260 |
18:43 | you cna only map fields | |
18:43 | nengard | thanks cait |
18:43 | cait | not controlfields |
18:43 | you can see it in the koha-to-marc-mappings | |
18:43 | jcamins | Yes? |
18:43 | Oh. | |
18:47 | nengard | :) |
18:53 | jcamins | We should put the items table on the MARC and Labelled MARC views in the staff client, now that it no longer shows up in the MARC. |
19:03 | oleonard | OPACViewOthersSuggestions doesn't seem to be working as I imagine it should |
19:04 | If AnonSuggestions and OPACViewOthersSuggestions are both on shouldn't I be able to see all suggestions even if I'm not logged in? | |
19:04 | And if AnonSuggestions is off, should I have to be logged in to view others' suggestions? | |
19:12 | Ugh, it's a mess. | |
19:16 | cait | oleonard: agreed |
19:16 | but yeah, only works if you are logged in | |
19:27 | JesseM | Card Catalogs still have a use! :P http://vimeo.com/39461899 |
19:28 | rangi | morning |
19:28 | cait | morning rangi |
19:29 | druthb | hi, rangi! :) |
19:30 | jcamins | Morning. |
19:30 | wahanui | morning is a state of mind. |
19:31 | jcamins | JesseM: you could make it into a turing machine by using a wall of card catalogs for the game of life. |
19:31 | druthb | morning is also whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
19:31 | wahanui | okay, druthb. |
19:31 | jcamins | Morning |
19:31 | Morning? | |
19:31 | wahanui | i guess Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
19:31 | jcamins | Morning. |
19:31 | wahanui | morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
19:31 | jcamins | Hehe. |
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19:35 | rangi | https://kohakenya.wordpress.co[…]r-i-p-the-kardex/ |
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19:47 | rangi | slef: about? |
19:55 | cait | t |
19:55 | rangi | g |
19:55 | cait | was so quiet :) |
19:56 | rangi | :) |
19:57 | cait | dpavlin++ |
19:57 | rangi | i have that effect |
19:57 | cait | lol |
19:59 | nengard | @later tell paul_p i finished the help files and they're attached to bug 7936 Thanks!! |
19:59 | huginn` | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
20:16 | oleonard | Happy weekend all |
20:16 | cait | happy weekend oleonard |
20:16 | hah! i did it before you logged out :) | |
20:16 | and meaning it too :) | |
20:16 | oleonard | :) |
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21:16 | slef | rangi: no. why? |
21:19 | rangi | cant remember, mustnt have been important |
21:20 | slef | hehehe |
21:21 | new_bib?items=1 maybe? | |
21:21 | or something I stuffed up on sponsorship... 2 so far today | |
21:22 | rangi | oh, kohacon, anymore things you want me to review |
21:22 | excellent! | |
21:22 | slef | erm not sure. probably. |
21:22 | how many do you want? | |
21:23 | rangi | hmm a couple? |
21:24 | how are we looking numbers wise for speakers now? i figure we need about 7 per day? (of conf itself) | |
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21:26 | slef | not sure. I need to count up but haven't had chance today |
21:26 | rangi | sweet as |
21:26 | i might send another mail to the list | |
21:26 | 7 days until call for papers close | |
21:27 | think it's a good idea? | |
21:27 | wizzyrea | more reminders are never a bad idea |
21:27 | see how it worked for jcamins and his authorities dev? ;) | |
21:27 | HINT HINT NUDGE NUDGE | |
21:27 | rangi | :) |
21:28 | ill try to sign off your new_bib thing this evening too slef | |
21:29 | slef | yes it's a good idea. I really must repost this one to LIS-KOHA too |
21:29 | rangi | ahh yes |
21:29 | good idea | |
21:31 | on its way | |
21:31 | slef | wizzyrea: 2 people report not getting the sponsor form autoreply today. I'm going to check the form settings, but are you able to check the webserver mail logs if needed? |
21:32 | form settings look OK | |
21:32 | mailing them and grabbing times and IPs to message you | |
21:34 | wizzyrea | sure I can check |
21:34 | (but it's almost time for me to go, just fyi - gotta pick up the kiddo) | |
21:36 | slef | except I'm an idiot and deleted the form times and IPs |
21:38 | but the recipient email addresses are with you now | |
21:38 | no rush. I've remailed them the info | |
21:39 | they're both using outsourced anti-spam | |
21:39 | I bet it traps wordpress forms | |
21:39 | and that folks is why I hate outsourced anti-spam. It's too often out of control rubbish that causes trouble. | |
21:40 | rangi | yup |
21:40 | slef | rangi: I bet you loved using gmail at a previous workplace... |
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21:40 | rangi | well it started off zimbra |
21:41 | but yes moved to gmail | |
21:41 | wizzyrea | ah yea it might be spam related - it's ec2 so hard to get reverse DNS for it |
21:41 | well, not SO hard. | |
21:42 | I just don't recall if I *did* or not. | |
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21:42 | slef | I'll check |
21:42 | rangi | and yeah, running your workmail through gmail .. not something id do |
21:42 | slef | yeah, there's reverse DNS |
21:42 | wizzyrea | oh good so it's not *that* |
21:42 | slef | ec2-174-129-1-205.compute-1.amazonaws.com, but it's still good |
21:43 | * slef | has been postmaster almost as long as webmaster |
21:47 | wizzyrea | slef, must be spam catching - it's not stuck in the queue |
21:47 | and looks like it technically sent ok | |
21:47 | slef | wizzyrea: can you se... right, thanks. |
21:47 | questions answered before they're asked :) | |
21:47 | rangi | :) |
21:47 | wizzyrea | i'm efficient like that ;) |
21:47 | slef | wizzyrea++ |
21:47 | biab | |
21:48 | wizzyrea | do lmk if you see a lot of that though |
21:48 | it would be nice to know why people think it's spam | |
21:51 | rangi | it could be just that wordpress forms were(are?) used a lot to spam through |
21:52 | wizzyrea | could be |
21:54 | rangi | ok, off to hang out with the hippies and peaceniks |
21:54 | 30th anniversary of wellington becoming nuke free | |
21:55 | have good weekends all | |
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22:42 | ibeardslee | rangi: wow, didn't know that. |
22:44 | jcamins_away | lol |
22:44 | Reminders did seem to help with 7284, didn't they? | |
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