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| 00:22 | druthb | o/ |
| 00:23 | rangi | hi druthb |
| 00:23 | druthb | hiya, rangi! :) |
| 00:23 | rangi | vacation over? |
| 00:24 | druthb | yeah. Could use a couple more weeks, tho. |
| 00:24 | rangi | yup, often the way |
| 00:26 | druthb | Trying to finish up a book chapter on library data migrations for a book that ITI is publishing this fall. (using Koha, natch.) |
| 00:27 | rangi | ohh excellent |
| 00:27 | druthb | my first draft is due next week; I'm still fiddling with the techie bits, but the basic structure is where I want it. |
| 00:30 | rangi | cool |
| 00:30 | the structure is often the hardest bit | |
| 00:31 | druthb | yep. |
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| 02:37 | Brooke | o/ |
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| 05:14 | eythian | http://imgur.com/jFigk <-- will make the most sense to NZers |
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| 06:30 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:30 | wahanui | que tal, alex_a |
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| 07:00 | esofiane_ | Hi |
| 07:00 | francharb | hello #koha |
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| 07:16 | kf | hi #koha |
| 07:16 | gaetan_B | hello #koha |
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| 07:19 | kf | hi gaetan_B, paul_p and Oak |
| 07:20 | Oak | guten tag kf :) |
| 07:20 | kia ora #koha | |
| 07:20 | kf | Salaam Oak :) |
| 07:20 | Oak | :) hmm |
| 07:28 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
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| 07:35 | samuel | hi everybody! |
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| 07:36 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:36 | Oak | Bonjour paul_p, samuel, reiveune |
| 07:36 | reiveune | Salut Oak :) |
| 07:37 | Oak | :) |
| 07:37 | * kf | waves |
| 07:41 | samuel | question for french people: who plan to take part to kohacon? |
| 07:42 | asaurat | the list is not ready yet =) |
| 07:43 | samuel | ok |
| 07:43 | asaurat | we are discussing this these days |
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| 07:49 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #709 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 07:49 | kf | happy jenkins :) |
| 07:50 | !jenkins botsnack cookies | |
| 07:50 | jenkins_koha | kf: yummy! I could eat cookies all day long |
| 07:51 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_2780' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9ea4c2d98dfa091ab> / Bug 2780 [FOLLOW-UP] Capitalize strings consistently <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e114adc250961d8b5> |
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| 08:09 | eythian | does 3.6.4 have an error in the YAML? I'm getting exceptions from the parser. |
| 08:11 | kf | eythian: don't know, we are on 3.6.3 |
| 08:11 | eythian | I'm getting "Syck parser (line 19, column 15): syntax error at /usr/lib/perl5/YAML/Syck.pm line 75." |
| 08:11 | but I don't know which file is causing it | |
| 08:12 | kf | hm |
| 08:12 | Oak | i have 3.6.4... how do i check this error eythian ? |
| 08:12 | eythian | seems to be circulation |
| 08:12 | kf | when you run translations? |
| 08:12 | eythian | go to the circulation syspref |
| 08:12 | also when browsing them | |
| 08:12 | kf | then it's in the template directory |
| 08:12 | admin prefrences circ.pref | |
| 08:12 | probably | |
| 08:13 | Oak | okay went to cgi-bin/koha/admin/preferences.pl?tab=circulation |
| 08:13 | page opened... | |
| 08:13 | eythian | hmm, I get an error straight away |
| 08:13 | and the same error when running the translater tool | |
| 08:14 | Oak | hm |
| 08:14 | eythian | hmm, also on local use |
| 08:14 | ahh | |
| 08:15 | it's an error in a local customisation | |
| 08:15 | tabs in the yaml | |
| 08:15 | Oak | hmm |
| 08:20 | rangi | what a great time to have a router spaz out |
| 08:21 | doing the cname now fredericd | |
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| 08:22 | eythian | rangi: when you have package installs not picking up en-NZ, how did you fix that? |
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| 08:23 | rangi | not picking up? you ran the translate install thing? |
| 08:24 | can ppl try translate.koha-community.org for me please? | |
| 08:24 | eythian | rangi: yeah. We've had this happen before, but I can't remember how you fixed it. |
| 08:24 | Oak | http://translate.koha-community.org/ opens fine rangi |
| 08:24 | kf | not for me (yet) |
| 08:26 | rangi | eythian: last time it didnt complete i dont think |
| 08:26 | eythian | hmm |
| 08:26 | rangi | ie some files were missing that was for nzica |
| 08:26 | eythian | Yeah, that rings a bell |
| 08:26 | pretty sure it completed this time. | |
| 08:26 | I got the successful message for both parts | |
| 08:26 | rangi | hmm |
| 08:28 | kf | have you tried switching on en/en-nz and language chooser (systemprefs) and switch manually? |
| 08:29 | to see if the translation works at all? | |
| 08:30 | eythian | will give that a go next |
| 08:31 | slef | hi all |
| 08:32 | kf | hi slef |
| 08:32 | eythian | I really don't like how opaccolorstylesheet tries to be smart but fails (if you put a path with a leading '/' it still prefixes the css path) |
| 08:35 | kf | and I don't like untranslatable stringsin authority search *sigh* |
| 08:36 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #709: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/709/ |
| 08:36 | oleonard: Bug 2780 [FOLLOW-UP] Capitalize strings consistently | |
| 08:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Capitalize strings consistently |
| 08:36 | * kf | growls |
| 08:36 | kf | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]tiesMarc.pm#l1094 |
| 08:37 | hardcoded html and strings in a .pm file? | |
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| 08:50 | kf | Oak: does it still work for you? translate.koha-community.org? |
| 08:51 | Oak | nope |
| 08:51 | it's doen now | |
| 08:51 | down* | |
| 08:51 | kf | same for me |
| 08:52 | slef | http://downforeveryoneorjustme[…]oha-community.org |
| 08:57 | eythian | hmm, the language switcher doesn't even show up |
| 08:59 | kf | have you activated it? |
| 08:59 | it's a separate syspref | |
| 08:59 | eythian | yeah |
| 08:59 | kf | and you have more than 1 language? |
| 08:59 | eythian | opaclanguagedisplay |
| 08:59 | yeah | |
| 08:59 | en and en-NZ | |
| 08:59 | kf | hm |
| 08:59 | weird | |
| 08:59 | all I can say is that it seems to work with german and english in 3.6.3 - but those are not dialects of the same | |
| 09:00 | eythian | yeah |
| 09:00 | kf | perhaps the submenu thing is broken? |
| 09:00 | eythian | submenu thing? |
| 09:00 | kf | the dialects for one language show up in a menu |
| 09:00 | not as single entries | |
| 09:00 | so different to german/english | |
| 09:00 | eythian | oh |
| 09:00 | yeah | |
| 09:02 | rangi | did it work on the staging site? |
| 09:03 | eythian | no, but we never had en-NZ set up on there anyway |
| 09:04 | rangi | ahh, whoops, not really a fair test |
| 09:04 | eythian | it's always accessing the straight en versions of URLs etc. too. |
| 09:05 | rangi | fredericd: you about? |
| 09:05 | eythian: its working for nzica tho eh? | |
| 09:05 | eythian | it appears not to be actually |
| 09:05 | rangi | weird, it was |
| 09:05 | they signed off on it | |
| 09:05 | eythian | it is on their staff client |
| 09:05 | not the opac | |
| 09:06 | rangi | it was on the opac too |
| 09:06 | eythian | oh |
| 09:06 | maybe I'm using an untranslated string as a test | |
| 09:06 | yeah, it says 'reserve' | |
| 09:06 | rangi | yep |
| 09:06 | thats working | |
| 09:06 | eythian | it's saying 'hold' on hdc though |
| 09:07 | rangi | yep, and thats not ;) |
| 09:07 | yeah catalog not catalogue | |
| 09:07 | eythian | yeah |
| 09:08 | rangi | whats the diff in sysprefs? |
| 09:08 | eythian | there isn't really, they both are on en-NZ except one has a custom '(nzica)' setting that's unused. |
| 09:08 | rangi | how odd |
| 09:09 | * eythian | double-checks the templates |
| 09:10 | eythian | $ find en | wc -l |
| 09:10 | 192 | |
| 09:10 | $ find en-NZ | wc -l | |
| 09:10 | 717 | |
| 09:10 | unexpected | |
| 09:10 | kf | number of files? |
| 09:10 | eythian | yeah |
| 09:11 | kf | hm. |
| 09:11 | eythian | oh, the translation has a bunch extra yui stuff for some reason |
| 09:12 | $ find en/modules/ | wc -l | |
| 09:12 | 59 | |
| 09:12 | $ find en-NZ/modules/ | wc -l | |
| 09:12 | 59 | |
| 09:12 | that's more expected | |
| 09:12 | heh | |
| 09:13 | so if I move 'en' out of the way, it works | |
| 09:13 | it's like it's treating en-NZ as a fallback | |
| 09:14 | works on the staff client too | |
| 09:15 | rangi | oh |
| 09:15 | * eythian | wonders how bad he feels about this solution at this time of the evening. |
| 09:15 | rangi | it'll hold for tomorrow |
| 09:15 | there was something about lingua stem | |
| 09:15 | eythian | ah |
| 09:16 | rangi | but i dont think that went into 3.6.4 |
| 09:16 | oh, you dont have both checked eh? only en-nz | |
| 09:16 | eythian | no, just en-nz |
| 09:16 | rangi | i reckon that will do til the morning |
| 09:16 | eythian | yeah |
| 09:17 | now just to activate self-service, make sure the apache config is serving on the right IPs and it's good to go. | |
| 09:17 | kf | I think linuga stem was only a problem for norwegian |
| 09:17 | rangi | hmm |
| 09:17 | im still seeing catalog | |
| 09:17 | in the opac | |
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| 09:17 | kf | searching for tags gave an error because some mismatch in language codes |
| 09:17 | eythian | rangi: that's because that hasn't been translated |
| 09:17 | rangi | but place reserve is there |
| 09:17 | ah | |
| 09:18 | eythian | it bit me too |
| 09:18 | I remember waitaki pointing it out a while ago I think, too | |
| 09:18 | should fix it, it's fairly prominant | |
| 09:18 | slef | Two silly microblogs posted already. It must be an odd day. |
| 09:19 | eythian | oh bother, I deleted the SIPconfig to make room. Now I have to grab it from a 1.7GB backup file... |
| 09:19 | rangi | heh its a tiny file |
| 09:20 | there should be a copy in my homedir | |
| 09:20 | eythian | I deleted the 3GB of files that didn't need to be around any more :) |
| 09:20 | it was one of them | |
| 09:20 | rangi | the git checkout? |
| 09:20 | wahanui | i heard the git checkout was the way |
| 09:20 | eythian | yeah |
| 09:20 | rangi | i thought the plan was to keep that in case we had to rollback |
| 09:20 | eythian | basically everything that wasn't from the packages |
| 09:20 | I have kept it, in a tarball that can be restored in moments | |
| 09:21 | but I was getting tight on disk | |
| 09:21 | the zebra rebuild was threatening to fail | |
| 09:23 | fortunately it's near the start of the tarball... | |
| 09:24 | fredericd | translate.koha-community.org is back... |
| 09:25 | Do I send an announcement on koha-translate list only? | |
| 09:25 | rangi | probably fine |
| 09:26 | kf | fredericd: I see the staff files are missing? |
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| 09:27 | kf | fredericd: to be more precise - in 3.8 the staff po files seem to be missing |
| 09:29 | fredericd | kf: back now for de-DE |
| 09:30 | kf | yes, that looks better |
| 09:30 | and scary... almost 14000 word | |
| 09:33 | eythian | sip up, proper language, no 404's from the images or styles on the front page, responding on all IP addresses, I think I've done enough for a mallowpuff. |
| 09:33 | Which are at home. | |
| 09:33 | slef | @query authority export |
| 09:33 | huginn` | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5706 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Search, create lists and Export authorities from staff interface |
| 09:33 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6891 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDIF interoperability - a proposal | |
| 09:33 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5635 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, stephane.delaune, Needs Signoff , bulkmarcimport new parameters & features | |
| 09:33 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tajoli, Needs Signoff , Use Koha-Contrib-Tamil to update Zebra data in background | |
| 09:34 | slef | wahanui: enhancement? |
| 09:34 | wahanui | i don't know, slef |
| 09:34 | slef | wahanui: enh? |
| 09:34 | wahanui | slef: i haven't a clue |
| 09:35 | slef | is it possible to search wahanui? |
| 09:35 | wahanui: wiki? | |
| 09:35 | wahanui | wiki is, like, http://wiki.koha-community.org |
| 09:36 | slef | wahanui: zebra? |
| 09:36 | wahanui | well, zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. or the search engine koha uses |
| 09:37 | eythian | oh, crons and inits disabled. Best not forget that one. |
| 09:38 | kf | fredericd: seems to work ok - only a lot of work to do now |
| 09:39 | fredericd | kf: something is broken in the script I use to update automatically Pootle DB from Koha .po files... |
| 09:40 | that's the reason why staff was missing from German | |
| 09:40 | but same issue for other languages.... | |
| 09:41 | kf | fredericd: yes, seems to be all other languages - exception is french it seems, because the project was already there |
| 09:42 | fredericd | I can't do it by hand for 46 languages! |
| 09:43 | kf | :( |
| 09:43 | eythian | for l in `ls /path/to/langs` ; do yourcommand $l ; done |
| 09:43 | ? | |
| 09:43 | kf | fredericd: I think we didn't rename the files or changed the structure since 3.6 |
| 09:43 | so not sure what's going wrong | |
| 09:44 | fredericd: the script changed - it's not outputting all the feedback information now - perhaps you were checking for the success messages? | |
| 09:44 | fredericd | ISO codes are not the same in Koha and in Pootle |
| 09:45 | eythian | oh, that's not so nice. |
| 09:50 | fredericd | http://git.tamil.fr/?p=tkoha;a[…]5df783c7b;hb=HEAD |
| 09:50 | ^^ the copy script | |
| 09:51 | it's fixed now | |
| 09:51 | kf | what was the problem? |
| 09:53 | fredericd | A typo in the staff name file, in this script. It should have been solved on the previous server, I don't know |
| 09:56 | kf | fredericd: it's good you could fix it ) |
| 09:56 | fredericd++ | |
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| 09:58 | Oak | fredericd++ |
| 10:23 | rangi | hmm |
| 10:44 | logs? | |
| 10:44 | wahanui | hmmm... logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 10:44 | rangi | that url working for others? |
| 10:47 | kf | yes |
| 10:47 | rangi | thanks |
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| 12:00 | sploenni | hi |
| 12:01 | samuel | hi! |
| 12:01 | sploenni | is it possible to use koha as a SRU client? |
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| 12:17 | slef | sploenni: server, not client. |
| 12:17 | sploenni: at least as far as I know. | |
| 12:17 | biab | |
| 12:18 | sploenni | slef: thank you for the info. that's not what i wanted to hear :( |
| 12:19 | slef | sploenni: it's changeable. http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]lines#Enhancement.2FSponsorship_Guidelines |
| 12:19 | jcamins_away | sploenni: marcelr did some work on that, but it hasn't made it into Koha. |
| 12:20 | @query sru | |
| 12:20 | huginn` | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1817 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , pagination links disrupt display on large result sets |
| 12:20 | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2960 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cyrillic Z39-50 servers (bad encoding results) | |
| 12:20 | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3087 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Z39.50 server returns usmarc format records for UNIMARC DB | |
| 12:20 | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3782 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , delivered z39.50 targets wrong for NY Public Library and NY University Library | |
| 12:20 | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4925 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Remove Smithsonian as a delivered z39.50 target | |
| 12:20 | jcamins_away | @query srw |
| 12:20 | huginn` | jcamins_away: No results for "srw." |
| 12:20 | slef | jcamins_away: you have as much luck with that was I do |
| 12:20 | @query sru client | |
| 12:20 | huginn` | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1817 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , pagination links disrupt display on large result sets |
| 12:20 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3087 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Z39.50 server returns usmarc format records for UNIMARC DB | |
| 12:20 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7832 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Server Z39.50 for Unimarc | |
| 12:20 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7778 blocker, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Not possible to add new z39.50 servers | |
| 12:20 | slef | huginn`: you suck |
| 12:21 | huginn` | slef: downloading the Perl source |
| 12:21 | jcamins_away | Bug 6536 |
| 12:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing |
| 12:21 | jcamins_away | sploenni: ^^ that bug talks about marcelr's work. |
| 12:22 | slef | wahanui: lart huginn` |
| 12:22 | wahanui | here huginn` huggie huggie! I've a cluebat for you! |
| 12:23 | slef | wahanui: guided reports? |
| 12:23 | wahanui | guided reports is some of rangi's worst work ever |
| 12:23 | slef | wahanui: rangi's only excuse? |
| 12:23 | wahanui | rangi's only excuse is I was doing it under protest :) |
| 12:23 | jcamins_away | lol |
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| 12:37 | sploenni | jcamins_away: looks very interesting. it's worth a try :) |
| 12:41 | schuster | jcamins_away - what are your thoughts on the Linked Data - VIAF - Virtual Authority File? |
| 12:41 | http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/201[…]gets-serious.html | |
| 12:50 | jcamins_away | schuster: I'd love to see Koha use viaf for name authority control. |
| 12:51 | Actually, that was part of my thought process behind the way the Linker I wrote works. | |
| 12:53 | I designed it so that it would be relatively straightforward to plug the linker into viaf or another Linked Data authority file. | |
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| 13:28 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: missing \n in updatedatabase that causes some ugly display <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]db61b9b4c21c82a3c> |
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| 13:34 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #710 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 14:01 | oleonard | Hi kf |
| 14:01 | kf | hi oleonard - and thx for your sign-off |
| 14:01 | :) | |
| 14:02 | oleonard | I'll try to do more, but got switched to something else |
| 14:02 | kf | :) |
| 14:02 | I think sometimes I was not clear how to reproduce :( | |
| 14:02 | if you get back to it - don't hesitate to throw questions in my direction :) | |
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| 14:19 | mib_ccaynq | hi |
| 14:21 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #710: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/710/ |
| 14:21 | paul.poulain: missing \n in updatedatabase that causes some ugly display | |
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| 14:44 | schuster | jcamins_away - thanks for your insight. |
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| 15:03 | * jcamins | uses ISBD view for the first time ever. |
| 15:04 | nengard | does the overdues with fines report work? Does it require a cron job? I have never seen data on this on my test system |
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| 15:28 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 15:28 | slef | hi mveron |
| 15:29 | cait | hi mveron |
| 15:29 | mveron | I have a problem with git: |
| 15:29 | After git reset --hard origin/master I get the following error: | |
| 15:29 | Can't locate DateTime/Format/DateParse.pm in @INC | |
| 15:30 | jcamins | mveron: that has nothing to do with git. You're missing dependencies. :) |
| 15:30 | mveron | jcamins: I do not find the file DateParce.pm |
| 15:30 | Mean DatePArce.pm | |
| 15:30 | Mean DateParse.pm | |
| 15:31 | jcamins | mveron: no, you need to install the missing dependencies. |
| 15:31 | slef | jcamins: depends if he's trying to run build-git-snapshot |
| 15:31 | jcamins | slef: oh, good point. |
| 15:31 | slef | nengard: don't all fines need a cron job? And I don't recall any library complaining about it recently but my memory is poor. |
| 15:31 | jcamins | mveron: are you trying to run build-get-snapshot? |
| 15:31 | nengard | i'm not seeing one that makes sense (a cron job that is) |
| 15:31 | and no i don't have libraries complaining either | |
| 15:31 | mveron | Yes, I suppose... |
| 15:32 | slef | is mveron suffering bug 7893? |
| 15:32 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7893 critical, P1 - high, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , Missing build-dependency on libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl and libreadonly-perl |
| 15:32 | jcamins | mveron: you suppose? |
| 15:32 | slef | that says it's pushed :-/ |
| 15:32 | jcamins | Is that the command you want to run? |
| 15:32 | slef | but this is the second report in two days |
| 15:32 | jcamins | (build-git-snapshot is a command) |
| 15:33 | mveron | I followed the instructions on http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ration#Get_git-bz a couple of weeks ago |
| 15:33 | I did git reset --hard origin/master several times | |
| 15:33 | This is the first time I get the error | |
| 15:34 | jcamins | Okay, so, no, you are not trying to use build-git-snapshot. |
| 15:35 | You need to install the missing dependencies. | |
| 15:35 | @query dependencies | |
| 15:35 | huginn` | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2092 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha should support Unicode 6 |
| 15:35 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5599 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , koha_perl_deps.pl and PerlDependencies.pm don't compare $VERSION numbers correctly | |
| 15:35 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2131 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Enhanced Content - Multiple Choices | |
| 15:35 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4847 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Python required for Debian package builds | |
| 15:35 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1368 major, P2, ---, mjr, REOPENED , Use of FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS = 0 | |
| 15:35 | jcamins | @query datetime |
| 15:35 | huginn` | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4974 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , process_koc.pl fails to display date and time of return |
| 15:35 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7899 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tdavis, NEW , Remove C4::Dates from C4::Circulation | |
| 15:35 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Signed Off , Hourly Loans | |
| 15:35 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7820 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Missing packages from install_misc/debian.packages | |
| 15:35 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7849 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Instant Fine Calculation at Checkin | |
| 15:35 | slef | mveron: did you do "git pull master origin" today? |
| 15:35 | jcamins | Bug 7820 |
| 15:35 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7820 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Missing packages from install_misc/debian.packages |
| 15:35 | jcamins | You need to install whichever packages are mentioned in that patch. |
| 15:35 | mveron | slef: No, I did not |
| 15:36 | slef | oh but jcamins spots a bug that is still in progress :( |
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| 15:36 | jcamins | Hm. That's kind of a big one. |
| 15:37 | slef | enhancement??? |
| 15:37 | but I'll look at it later | |
| 15:37 | jcamins | Not so much! |
| 15:37 | slef | I'm swamped this week |
| 15:38 | jcamins | It's already signed off, so it's just waiting on QA. |
| 15:38 | cait | what was the problem with fines earlier? |
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| 15:51 | mveron | slef, jcamins: Thanks a lot, I installed the packages, and I see the login screen again... |
| 15:51 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 15:57 | * oleonard | , about to commit himself to a mental institution, discovers that AllowOnShelfHolds is turned off |
| 15:57 | oleonard | That was a close one. |
| 15:58 | cait | oleonard: next time - come here and ask! |
| 15:58 | adnc joined #koha | |
| 15:59 | cait | before it gets that bad - we still need you :) |
| 16:03 | oleonard | So I wouldn't be the first person in the lifeboat to get made into dinner? |
| 16:05 | gaetan_B joined #koha | |
| 16:07 | cait | oleonard: hmmmm |
| 16:07 | that's a different question | |
| 16:07 | but perhaps would be me | |
| 16:08 | oleonard | Not with so many defenders :) |
| 16:08 | cait | you are not going to feed a lot of people |
| 16:08 | hehe | |
| 16:08 | defenders? | |
| 16:08 | oleonard | People protecting you from being made into dinner |
| 16:09 | Oh, speaking of everyone in Koha in a lifeboat together... We should have a KohaCon on a cruise ship! | |
| 16:10 | cait | oh |
| 16:10 | oleonard: in norway! | |
| 16:11 | jcamins | Yeah! |
| 16:23 | gaetan_B joined #koha | |
| 16:26 | cait | oleonard: did you see the mail from gaetan_B? :) |
| 16:27 | icons! | |
| 16:27 | gaetan_B | cait: :-[ |
| 16:27 | cait | gaetan_B: perhaps the pending things could go on top? |
| 16:28 | gaetan_B: pushing down the modules a bit? they only show up if th efeature is activated and there is something to do, so perhaps would be more prominent than at the bottom | |
| 16:28 | gaetan_B | cait: that's a good point |
| 16:28 | oleonard | I didnt see it |
| 16:28 | Oh there it is | |
| 16:28 | * jcamins | is curious what this message was about. |
| 16:28 | cait | gaetan_B: not sure about having orange/blue an green together |
| 16:29 | reiveune | bye |
| 16:29 | reiveune left #koha | |
| 16:29 | gaetan_B | cait: we stole the colors from koha-community.org |
| 16:29 | but there are toerh options! | |
| 16:29 | *other | |
| 16:29 | cait | oh, I better be careful then :) |
| 16:29 | jcamins | Now I'm really curious! |
| 16:29 | What is this? | |
| 16:29 | * jcamins | is also very nosy. |
| 16:29 | cait | jcamins: check koha mailing list :) |
| 16:30 | oooh | |
| 16:30 | gaetan_B | jcamins: i'm baking a cake |
| 16:30 | jcamins | I did. |
| 16:30 | cait | sorry, i thought it was to the list |
| 16:30 | :( | |
| 16:30 | oups | |
| 16:30 | jcamins | gaetan_B: mmm. Cake! What kind of cake? |
| 16:30 | gaetan_B | cait: i only sent it to you and oleonard because we discussed it during the hackfest, ;) |
| 16:30 | cait | i am really sorry |
| 16:30 | oleonard | And because it's suuuper secret |
| 16:30 | cait | there is a reason I left earlier today |
| 16:30 | jcamins | A Koha-themed cake? |
| 16:30 | gaetan_B | jcamins: icing on the top of the staff interface homepage ;) |
| 16:31 | jcamins | Ahhh. |
| 16:31 | cait | it's one of these days i don't do updates to databases and things like that |
| 16:31 | gaetan_B | cherries |
| 16:31 | and icons | |
| 16:31 | jcamins | Oooooooohhh. |
| 16:31 | gaetan_B++ | |
| 16:33 | cait | mmh cherries |
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| 16:41 | gaetan_B | bye! |
| 16:50 | edveal | Question about the searchresults page! It is my understanding that the default is that the hits have alternating highlighting for easier viewing. There is a site that I am working with that all hits are highlighted. I checked the jQuery and there is none and there is nothing in the CSS that should be over riding this. Any ideas out there? |
| 16:51 | jcamins | edveal: they're on an old version of 3.6? |
| 16:51 | I had that problem with 3.6.1. | |
| 16:52 | bag | jcamins: probably true |
| 16:52 | edveal | I think they are on 3.6.0 |
| 16:54 | cait | jcamins_lunch: aaah |
| 16:54 | old version of Template? | |
| 16:55 | we saw that here too | |
| 16:55 | edveal: is it all tables or only search results? | |
| 16:55 | edveal | Didn't check all tables but will. |
| 16:58 | Thanks! | |
| 16:58 | oleonard | Cutting out early today folks. See y'all later. |
| 17:00 | jcamins | edveal: I don't know if I ever solved the problem, because I decided to completely restyle my OPACs, and used a gradient to differentiate the results. |
| 17:01 | edveal | Yeah I knew I could work around it but was looking for what might be causing it. |
| 17:02 | jcamins | edveal: I do know it's fixed at least in master, and I think also in 3.6.3. |
| 17:02 | (that was the other reason I didn't fix it... I upgraded) | |
| 17:02 | edveal | Yep. I understand. Thank jcamins |
| 17:05 | jcamins | Good luck. |
| 17:06 | cait | edveal: edveal perhaps try a newer version of Template - that seemed to fix it for us (if it's all formerly striped tables) |
| 17:09 | jcamins | cait: you know what could use some styling attention? |
| 17:09 | 880s in the XSLT stylesheets. | |
| 17:09 | They don't have classes. | |
| 17:09 | cait | ah |
| 17:10 | chris_n | opps |
| 17:11 | sounds like trouble in translation paradise | |
| 17:11 | jcamins | chris_n: I think cait and I may be the only ones who use 880s, so it's really just "problems for Jared." ;) |
| 17:12 | * chris_n | was referring to a post to koha-translate :-) |
| 17:12 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 17:12 | chris_n: 880 is a field for translations. ;) | |
| 17:13 | chris_n | heh... what a coincidence :) |
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| 17:15 | cait | chris_n: yes, that doesn't sound good |
| 17:16 | chris_n | maybe things got mixed up during the move |
| 17:16 | * chris_n | hopes there's a backup :-) |
| 17:21 | laurence left #koha | |
| 17:35 | gmcharlt | well, to be pedantic, 880s are for transliterations, not translations, no? |
| 17:35 | cait | hm no |
| 17:35 | for original script | |
| 17:35 | which is not a translation and not a transliteration I think | |
| 17:35 | gmcharlt | indeed |
| 17:35 | more like the anti-transliteration, then | |
| 17:35 | cait | original graphic representation I think? |
| 17:35 | jcamins | gmcharlt: true, 880s are actually for un-transliterated data. |
| 17:36 | cait | gmcharlt: that's a good term :) |
| 17:36 | which normally means you need icu too... are you loooking at indexing of 880 right now? :) | |
| 17:37 | gmcharlt | cait: indeed :) |
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| 17:37 | * cait | jumps around |
| 17:37 | cait | ok :) |
| 17:37 | now I am all excited again :) | |
| 17:48 | slef | 15ish minutes to kohacon meeting... anyone here for it already? |
| 17:48 | cait | oh |
| 17:48 | yes | |
| 17:48 | washing dishes... will be back in time | |
| 17:52 | * talljoy | is here for kohacon meeting |
| 17:55 | slef | any topics for the agenda? If not, I'll report on status, invite mle to do the same and then discuss programme scheduling. |
| 17:56 | mle_ even | |
| 17:56 | cait | hi talljoy :) |
| 17:56 | talljoy | hi cait! |
| 17:56 | cait | slef: sounds good to me :) |
| 18:00 | slef | #startmeeting |
| 18:00 | wahanui | if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me |
| 18:00 | huginn` | Meeting started Wed Apr 11 18:00:51 2012 UTC. The chair is slef. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 18:00 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | |
| 18:01 | slef | #topic Introductions |
| 18:01 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 18:01 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions | |
| 18:01 | mle_ | status: chilf almost adleep |
| 18:01 | slef | #info MJ Ray, software.coop |
| 18:01 | mle_: child almost asleep? | |
| 18:01 | mle_ | y |
| 18:01 | slef | :) |
| 18:01 | talljoy | #info Joy Nelson ByWater Solutions |
| 18:01 | slef | Welcome everyone, please introduce yourselves for the minutes by putting #info in front of your name |
| 18:02 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ |
| 18:02 | bag | #info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater Solutions |
| 18:02 | jcamins | #info Jared Camins-Esakov, C & P Bibliography Services |
| 18:03 | mle_ | #info mle, Marrhew Edmondson, software. coop |
| 18:03 | slef | ok and mle will join us when he ... oh right, cool |
| 18:03 | #topic Roadmap to kohacon12 | |
| 18:03 | Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to kohacon12 | |
| 18:04 | mle_ | #info mle, Matthew Edmondson, software.coop even |
| 18:04 | slef | I hope you've all seen the website |
| 18:04 | #link http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/ | |
| 18:04 | cait | which website? |
| 18:04 | sorry, couldn't resist :) | |
| 18:04 | talljoy | err see line above. :-) |
| 18:04 | lol | |
| 18:05 | slef | mmmm cait has stolen my jester hat! |
| 18:05 | cait | it suits me :) |
| 18:05 | mle_ | :) |
| 18:05 | cait | so status update? |
| 18:05 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 18:05 | slef | I think there's about a dozen papers in, nearly all reviewed, most of which have been accepted by the reviewers, a couple with minor questions |
| 18:05 | kyleh | #info Kyle Hall, ByWater Solutions |
| 18:06 | slef | Thanks to all the reviewers to date |
| 18:06 | mle_ | ++ |
| 18:06 | slef | #info If anyone else could review papers, please let me know. |
| 18:07 | We need to do some scheduling - more of that in a mo. | |
| 18:07 | Registrations opened by accident last week. | |
| 18:07 | We were in the high 20s this morning, but we still need to announce it more widely. | |
| 18:08 | #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n12_Announcements has some of announcements, but please include the Common Text outside the koha* email lists. | |
| 18:08 | Not everyone knows what koha is yet, sadly. | |
| 18:09 | Sponsorships opened on purpose last weekend. | |
| 18:09 | So far I know about 5 sponsorships in progress, 2 of which are confirmed. I intend to announce them as soon as those 5 are confirmed, to reward them for sponsoring early. | |
| 18:10 | mle_ | ++ |
| 18:10 | slef | mle_: anything to report about Edinburgh and the venue? |
| 18:10 | mle_ | nppe |
| 18:10 | jcamins | Edinburgh is an awesome city, and those of us who can't go are very jealous of those of you who can! |
| 18:10 | mle_ | :) |
| 18:10 | slef | Last thing from me is that we've sent all invitation letters we've been asked for. |
| 18:11 | cait | slef: can you tell how many? |
| 18:11 | only to get an idea? | |
| 18:11 | slef | invitation letters? Only 4 so far I think |
| 18:11 | cait | ah |
| 18:11 | ok :) | |
| 18:12 | slef | I think those are mostly to prove to sponsoring institutions, rather than visas, at least at this point in time. I don't know if we will get more asked for visas. |
| 18:12 | mle_: what's the status with internet? rtcat isn't telling me? | |
| 18:12 | thd | Is there a list of papers which have been submitted? |
| 18:13 | slef | thd: not online yet. 1mo and I'll paste it here |
| 18:13 | mle_ | internet id promiised. staff Re changing. |
| 18:13 | cait | mle: sorry, can you rephrase? |
| 18:14 | or explain? | |
| 18:14 | mle_ | sorry m on phonkeyboarde |
| 18:15 | thd | ;) |
| 18:15 | cait | it's ok, I will read as: internet will work :) |
| 18:15 | pastebot | "slef" at 92.24.4.157 pasted "list of papers and statuses as of right now" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/341 |
| 18:16 | thd | mle: You have identified the main problem with miniaturising keyboards without miniaturising their users. |
| 18:16 | mle_ | cait. sorry about that. had to put child to sleep. now back at workstation. |
| 18:16 | slef | #action slef to post more complete list of paper details ready for scheduling... somewhere |
| 18:16 | ||
| 18:16 | mle_ | so the internet is promised. promised to be good enough to stream. |
| 18:16 | cait | no, don't be sorry :) child is more important |
| 18:17 | mle_: nice! | |
| 18:17 | mle_ | (sorry that my phoen typing is not up to scratch) |
| 18:18 | slef | in that pasted list, DONE means the author has been told it's been accepted, WAITING means it's with a reviewer and TODO means I need to do something with it :) |
| 18:18 | mle_ | cait: i do not believe them, so will keep hassling them. I may be able to use my staff internet access, which is very good. There is also the option to buy delegates access at £1 per say per user. |
| 18:18 | s/say/day/ | |
| 18:18 | slef | mle_: can you file some stuff on reference 3155 for me? |
| 18:18 | any other questions? | |
| 18:18 | thd | mle_: How would you know when to believe their assertion? |
| 18:19 | slef | thd: ahhhh, university IT ;) |
| 18:19 | thd: probably the day after kohacon is the safest! | |
| 18:19 | mle_ | thd they have new staff coming. (the staff i spoke to were microsoft monkeys ahem ahem) |
| 18:19 | * slef | gives cait the jester hat back |
| 18:19 | mle_ | slef: no, we are using student union IT |
| 18:20 | slef | mle_: oh well, they're worse, just look at the idiots they've employed in the past. |
| 18:20 | cait | slef: you can keep it a bit longer :) |
| 18:20 | * slef | is ex-student-union-IT as well as ex-university-IT |
| 18:20 | mle_ | thd: I will visit them next month and ask for permission to use my staff account too. |
| 18:20 | but bascially i am confident we will have some provisions | |
| 18:21 | slef | there may be some troubleshooting on day 1 |
| 18:21 | I suspect | |
| 18:21 | mle_ | hmm |
| 18:21 | cait | slef: about the cfp - perhaps we should send a reminder about the deadline next week? |
| 18:21 | mle_ | maybe, but I would hope not |
| 18:22 | thd | slef: Where is the link to the papers list which you just added? |
| 18:22 | slef | cait: good idea. |
| 18:22 | thd: http://paste.koha-community.org/341 | |
| 18:22 | thd: that's temporary... needs full details onto the wiki or similar I think. | |
| 18:23 | mle_: ok, let's hope. | |
| 18:24 | ok, are we all done with questions? | |
| 18:25 | wahanui: yes? | |
| 18:25 | wahanui | i don't know, slef |
| 18:25 | slef | wahanui: me neither. No-one's talking to me. I wonder how I offended them. |
| 18:25 | wahanui | slef: i'm not following you... |
| 18:26 | cait | slef: watching you and the hat :) |
| 18:26 | thd | Is there any reason which people from countries which do not require a Visa for the UK would ever need an invitation letter? |
| 18:27 | slef | thd: to persuade sponsors to pay for them, it seems. |
| 18:27 | jcamins | thd: to obtain institutional support, and/or justify the expenses as tax write-offs. |
| 18:27 | thd | ahhh... :) |
| 18:28 | slef | #topic The Friday Off - Possible Excursions |
| 18:28 | Topic for #koha is now The Friday Off - Possible Excursions | |
| 18:28 | mle_ | i want to remind folk to ask if they want me to check anything out here, need any info etc. I want to highlight the possibliity of organising a few sofa's with some of our friends if folk are too skint to get a hostel. |
| 18:28 | but sofa's need to be organised early | |
| 18:28 | jwagner | mle, is there a list of hotels near the venue somewhere? |
| 18:28 | slef | #info There's a day between the conference and the hackfest. I think it's Friday. What would you like to do? |
| 18:29 | * jcamins | won't be there, but would suggest Saint Andrews as a nice daytrip. |
| 18:29 | mle_ | jwagner not as such. |
| 18:29 | slef | mle_: jwagner: I included |
| 18:29 | #link http://wikitravel.org/en/Edinburgh#Sleep | |
| 18:29 | #link http://www.laterooms.com/ | |
| 18:29 | #link http://www.scoot.co.uk/find/hotels-in-edinburgh | |
| 18:30 | #link http://www.yell.com/ucs/UcsSea[…]ocation=edinburgh | |
| 18:30 | on the visa-info page | |
| 18:30 | maybe I should post them on another page too? Or are there better lists? | |
| 18:30 | jwagner | Thanks much. At some point, can you maybe identify the closest facilities, for people with disabilities who can't walk very far? |
| 18:31 | slef | mle_: any idea what's absolute closest? |
| 18:31 | mle_: or teviot's postcode for a location search | |
| 18:32 | mle_ | there are some close hotels |
| 18:32 | slef | actually let me go get that |
| 18:32 | while mle_ asks questions about what to do on the Friday | |
| 18:32 | mle_ | hotel du vin is closest |
| 18:32 | jwagner | not necessary this minute, but if it could make it onto the web page, that would help |
| 18:32 | mle_ | ok |
| 18:32 | jcamins | EH8 9AJ? |
| 18:32 | mle_ | so i put a call out to see if folk wanted to go fishing, but have not heard back |
| 18:32 | slef | me, I think I'll go for a walk up Arthur's Seat at some point in the day and anyone's welcome to come |
| 18:33 | * talljoy | is interested in whiskey |
| 18:33 | jcamins | jwagner: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=[…]+Kingdom&t=m&z=16 |
| 18:33 | * mle_ | takes ntoes |
| 18:33 | takes notes even | |
| 18:33 | jwagner | jcamins, thanks. |
| 18:33 | slef | we should add some tickboxes for different Friday things to the registration form |
| 18:33 | jwagner | #info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS |
| 18:33 | incidentally... | |
| 18:34 | slef | fishing, whiskey, arthur's seat... what else? |
| 18:34 | mle_ | castle |
| 18:34 | * cait | will go with the crowd |
| 18:34 | talljoy | kilts. |
| 18:34 | jcamins | mle_: if exams are over by then, you should also point out the dorms. |
| 18:34 | slef | #action add closest facilities / level and near-level access details to website |
| 18:34 | jwagner | Is the Lake District within feasible reach? |
| 18:34 | cait | talljoy: yes, I vote for dressing up the koha men in kilts |
| 18:34 | talljoy | :-D |
| 18:34 | slef | jwagner: 2-3h from memory... but my memory is poor |
| 18:34 | cait | :) |
| 18:34 | mle_ | a koha kilt? |
| 18:35 | cait | guess I have the hat again |
| 18:35 | talljoy | heh |
| 18:35 | mle_ | I could wear my Debian kilt |
| 18:35 | cait | slef: perhaps have a different form? guess the deadlines will be different for the friday activities |
| 18:36 | so people can register,... and sign up for friday fun later on | |
| 18:36 | slef | fishing, whiskey, arthur's seat, castle, kilts, lakes |
| 18:37 | cait: I think mle_ would like an idea about fishing in particular soon, as that sort of stuff gets booked up in summer. | |
| 18:37 | mle_ | Lake District too far in a day |
| 18:37 | * jwagner | was afraid of that. |
| 18:37 | slef | depends how long you want in the lake district |
| 18:37 | and how much you'd spend to get there quick | |
| 18:38 | * jwagner | wants a full summer to play with the Swallows and the Amazons, but that's probably not feasible during the conference |
| 18:38 | mle_ | sorry, that is true |
| 18:38 | cait | slef: perhaps have a post for the fishing ? |
| 18:38 | on the website or wiki with a deadline? | |
| 18:38 | slef | cait: good idea. |
| 18:38 | post on the website I think | |
| 18:38 | mle_: how many are needed how soon for the fishing to happen? | |
| 18:38 | mle_ | the fishing does soudn good, a friend has offered to charter a boat for us |
| 18:39 | at leat 10 | |
| 18:39 | * mle_ | checks |
| 18:39 | thd | What libraries in the area are currently using Koha or about to adopt it? |
| 18:40 | mle_ | good question. i am aware of three |
| 18:41 | slef | jwagner: £52.80 Off-Peak Return http://traintimes.org.uk/edb/o[…]ext+Friday/23:59a |
| 18:41 | #action mle_ to tell us how many are needed how soon for the fishing to happen | |
| 18:41 | mle_ | slef 10 |
| 18:41 | slef | how soon? |
| 18:42 | would anyone put a post on koha-community.org about this, please? | |
| 18:42 | mle_ | end of April |
| 18:42 | cait | I have no idea of fishing |
| 18:42 | slef | mle_: how much idea of fishing is expected? |
| 18:42 | cait | if you give me a text I can try to figure out the post part |
| 18:42 | mle_ | none |
| 18:43 | slef | mle_: where would it be? |
| 18:43 | mle_ | #action mle to write some text |
| 18:43 | slef | mle_: what would it be catching? |
| 18:43 | #action cait to post fish to koha-community.org | |
| 18:43 | thanks again cait! | |
| 18:44 | cait | not doing the hard part :) |
| 18:44 | slef | mle_: will we need to decide early on any of the other possible Friday outings? |
| 18:44 | mle_ | jwagner: https://debconf7.debconf.org/wiki/Accommodation |
| 18:45 | i dont think so | |
| 18:45 | unless we want group discount/bookign for castle | |
| 18:46 | jcamins | mle_: I think you can get a group rate as little as a couple of days in advance. |
| 18:47 | At least, that used to be possible. | |
| 18:47 | slef | ok, so we've early sign-up for fishing |
| 18:47 | later we'll ask about fishing, whiskey, arthur's seat, castle, kilts | |
| 18:47 | and a meal? | |
| 18:47 | mle_ | : ) |
| 18:48 | slef | and remove fishing from the later list. I'm going nuts. |
| 18:48 | thd | What would the venue be for fishing? [Not that I am keen on fishing.] |
| 18:48 | mle_ | thd: the sea |
| 18:48 | slef | #action ask later about whiskey, arthur's seat, castle, kilts and a meal |
| 18:48 | thd | mle_: The sea needs significant advanced planning? |
| 18:49 | mle_: You mean booking a vessel? | |
| 18:49 | mle_ | thd yup |
| 18:51 | cait | ok |
| 18:51 | so friday... and then hackfest? | |
| 18:51 | mle_ | yes |
| 18:51 | slef | ok, shall we move on to a quick contemplation of scheduling? |
| 18:51 | mle_ | please |
| 18:51 | slef | #topic Scheduling |
| 18:51 | Topic for #koha is now Scheduling | |
| 18:51 | cait | I think the proposed talks are quite different in length? |
| 18:52 | slef | yes, I think we've a range 20-50 minutes for the conference |
| 18:53 | cait | what is the time frame? for each day of the conference? |
| 18:53 | slef | I'm inclined to start trying to build a programme about this time next week, after posting the accepted papers somewhere but before the final deadline. |
| 18:53 | cait | do we have a keynote speaker or something for the first day? |
| 18:53 | mle_ | not yet |
| 18:53 | cait | hm |
| 18:53 | I think perhaps wait for th deadline? | |
| 18:54 | we will have to rearrange I think... | |
| 18:54 | slef | I think leave a lot unscheduled until the deadline, but maybe we could start to schedule the papers the reviewers thought were high priorities? |
| 18:55 | cait | i think perhaps longer talks in the morning |
| 18:55 | slef | The opening will be 10am on day 1. |
| 18:55 | cait | and shorter ones afternoon? |
| 18:55 | slef | mle_: can you remember any other times? I've not got them to hand right now. |
| 18:56 | mle_ | no |
| 18:56 | slef | I think we're flexible on the end times but were aiming on 4.30? |
| 18:56 | give plenty of time for discussions around the edges of the conference | |
| 18:56 | mle_ | ++ |
| 18:57 | slef | oh I remember! |
| 18:57 | thd | Please remember to include a sufficient question and answer period for presentations. |
| 18:57 | slef | #action announce some accepted papers, to drive up registrations and other papers |
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| 18:58 | slef | cait: I like longer talks in the morning. And shorter or more interactive things in the afternoon. |
| 18:58 | cait | slef: yep |
| 18:59 | slef | thd: good point. |
| 18:59 | #action remember to include a sufficient question and answer period for presentations | |
| 18:59 | thd: do you have a view on starting to schedule before the deadline? | |
| 19:00 | thd | slef: I am always for earliest possible planning with the latest possible changing. |
| 19:01 | slef: Remaining flexible is very useful even in the last moments. | |
| 19:02 | slef | ok, well, we'll see how time goes |
| 19:02 | Any more points or questions? | |
| 19:02 | Any other topics that we should cover today? Any topics we should cover next week? | |
| 19:02 | cait | some bigger conferences here have started to keep room for last minutes topics |
| 19:03 | but we are already close to the date | |
| 19:03 | thd | Having a tested microphone specifically for recording questions from those attending is obviously important for the question and answer period. |
| 19:03 | * rangi | wanders in |
| 19:04 | cait | morning rangi |
| 19:04 | slef | hi rangi... any kohacon points before I end the meeting? |
| 19:04 | any more for any more? | |
| 19:04 | any old iron? | |
| 19:04 | wahanui | "any old iron, any old iron, any any any old iron" was a popular 1980s advertising slogan. |
| 19:04 | rangi | hmmm |
| 19:04 | * slef | looks at wahanui |
| 19:05 | thd | wahanui looks back at slef. |
| 19:05 | wahanui | thd: sorry... |
| 19:05 | rangi | slef: having a decent break for lunch |
| 19:05 | slef | cait thd mle_ jcamins jwagner kyleh talljoy bag ok to close the meeting? |
| 19:05 | rangi | and morning and afternoon tea, is good, so hallway track can go full effect |
| 19:05 | jcamins | +1 |
| 19:06 | talljoy | yes |
| 19:06 | slef | rangi: where decent is what? 60 or 90? |
| 19:06 | kyleh | indeed |
| 19:06 | cait | yes |
| 19:06 | jwagner | +1 |
| 19:06 | thd | rangi++ |
| 19:06 | rangi | at least 60 |
| 19:06 | talljoy | tea++ |
| 19:06 | cait | hallway_track++ :) |
| 19:06 | rangi | depends on how many speakers we get :) |
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| 19:06 | thd | The hallway track is often the most important. |
| 19:06 | slef | #action at least 60 for lunch, and morning and afternoon tea to enable hallway track |
| 19:07 | ok, well, thank you all for taking part | |
| 19:08 | thd | How distant is any lunch venue if it is not on site? |
| 19:08 | slef | #topic next meeting |
| 19:08 | Topic for #koha is now next meeting | |
| 19:08 | slef | thd: there is at least 1 on site, others across the square |
| 19:08 | #info next meeting Wednesday 18 April 18:00 UTC | |
| 19:08 | (as previously stated) | |
| 19:08 | #endmeeting | |
| 19:08 | Topic for #koha is now 3.6.4 and 3.4.8 and 3.2.11 Now Available || Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org || General IRC meeting, 2 May 2012 at 2:00 UTC+0 | |
| 19:08 | huginn` | Meeting ended Wed Apr 11 19:08:43 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 19:08 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-04-11-18.00.html | |
| 19:08 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]2-04-11-18.00.txt | |
| 19:08 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]11-18.00.log.html | |
| 19:14 | mle_ | not much of a hallway, but sevearl cafes in building ; ) |
| 19:14 | rangi | :) |
| 19:14 | slef | oh |
| 19:15 | mle_: do you think we can persuade the library bar to do some offer to delegates for day 1 evening? Do you have time? ;-) | |
| 19:15 | * slef | just rips off kohacon10 and transplants it |
| 19:15 | cait | I would like that - I missed the first evening because of a sudden fever |
| 19:16 | in 2010 | |
| 19:16 | not going ot repeat that | |
| 19:16 | slef | ok I must go find food |
| 19:16 | thd | mle_: Hallway can of course be metaphorical. |
| 19:16 | slef | bbl |
| 19:16 | thd: BUT CAN IT BE METAPHYSICAL? | |
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| 19:17 | rangi | thd: are you coming? |
| 19:18 | thd | slef: anything can be metaphysical in Edinburgh. |
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| 19:21 | chris_n | do we still use HTML::Template? |
| 19:22 | * chris_n | sees references to it in http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/DataTables_HowTo |
| 19:22 | jcamins | chris_n: if we do, that usage should be ritually sacrificed. |
| 19:22 | maximep left #koha | |
| 19:22 | chris_n | my thinking exactly |
| 19:22 | * chris_n | goes for the sacred knife |
| 19:22 | jcamins | And the codebase cleansed. With fire. |
| 19:22 | thd | rangi: I actually have an event conflict for at least the conference. The hackfest is a possibility with recovering some expected backpay. |
| 19:22 | sekjal | chris_n: it's been dropped as a dependency in Koha |
| 19:23 | so, if we're still using it, we shouldn't be | |
| 19:23 | chris_n | I wonder why that page suggests its use |
| 19:23 | sekjal | pre-3.4 content? |
| 19:23 | jcamins | chris_n: BibLibre still uses H:T:P on their non-master installs. |
| 19:23 | chris_n | actually the datatables stuff is all post |
| 19:23 | ahh | |
| 19:23 | that probably explains it | |
| 19:24 | * chris_n | will add the appropriate disclaimer |
| 19:27 | feels sorry for those who have to do migrations on massively customized systems | |
| 19:27 | * jcamins | feels sorry for chris_n. ;) |
| 19:27 | * chris_n | was thinking of BibLibre |
| 19:27 | chris_n | :-) |
| 19:27 | jcamins | Did you get the archive.org reader integrated? |
| 19:27 | chris_n | mine is small ;-) |
| 19:28 | jcamins | I know, but you've got quite a lot of customizations yourself. |
| 19:28 | chris_n | not as tightly as I want |
| 19:28 | * chris_n | has some questions into the bookreader list |
| 19:28 | chris_n | its a bit of a slow list |
| 19:28 | but it does "pop out" now | |
| 19:28 | nicely | |
| 19:30 | once I finish the upgrade, we're going to publish our opac on the inet | |
| 19:30 | mveron | logout |
| 19:30 | chris_n | hehe |
| 19:30 | mveron | Mistked with the window... |
| 19:30 | jcamins | chris_n: and share the code, I hope? :) |
| 19:30 | chris_n | at least it was not your supersecret password |
| 19:30 | jcamins: always | |
| 19:31 | * jcamins | has been pondering geolocating authorities. |
| 19:33 | jcamins | (this is related to the topic of linking in other cool stuff) |
| 19:33 | * chris_n | is pondering pondering |
| 19:36 | thd | rangi: Are you expecting to attend? |
| 19:36 | rangi | yup |
| 19:37 | eythian and I are going | |
| 19:37 | all booked | |
| 19:37 | * mveron | InnoDB: Your database may be corrupt or you may have copied the InnoDB |
| 19:37 | Thinks the best bet is to set up a fresh server and re-install koha... | |
| 19:37 | rangi | hopefully be presenting at both hackfest and conference |
| 19:38 | thd | It is very unfortunate that BookExpo America, the annual US publishers and booksellers conference, starts at the same time as KohaCon this year. |
| 19:39 | jcamins | Oh, that is unfortunate. |
| 19:39 | thd | s/same/about the same/ |
| 19:39 | rangi | hmm no jcamins |
| 19:39 | that ruins my plan | |
| 19:39 | chris_n | anybody messed with Template::Plugin::JSON |
| 19:40 | cait | rangi: he was here earlier |
| 19:40 | thd | rangi: You had a plan to which jcamins would be indispensable? |
| 19:40 | chris_n | or have a better suggestion for using JSON and TT? |
| 19:40 | rangi | i meant at kohacon |
| 19:40 | yes, a release team photo | |
| 19:40 | mveron | bye #koha |
| 19:40 | rangi | cya mveron |
| 19:41 | jcamins | You could photoshop me in. |
| 19:41 | thd | snap my suggestion too :) |
| 19:41 | rangi | ahh and mtj too |
| 19:41 | jcamins | Eh, if you're photoshopping one person in, might as well photoshop in two. ;) |
| 19:42 | thd | s/photoshopping/gimping/ |
| 19:42 | jcamins | thd: I thought about that, but it sounds vaguely rude. |
| 19:42 | thd | :) |
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| 19:47 | * sekjal | isn't sure when next the entire release team will be in any given place together... |
| 19:49 | rangi | hmm not sure its ever happened |
| 19:49 | maybe kohacon09 | |
| 19:50 | wizzyrea | well, was hdl at kohacon9? |
| 19:50 | * wizzyrea | honestly doesn't remember |
| 19:51 | rangi | ah nope |
| 19:51 | nahuel and paul | |
| 19:51 | 06 maybe then | |
| 19:52 | but was a small team back then | |
| 19:55 | wizzyrea | right, I had dinner with nahuel, paul_p, and oleonard |
| 19:56 | * cait | wishes she had been there too :) |
| 19:57 | gmcharlt | sekjal: am I interpreting things correctly that 7016 really ought to be put back ton needs-signoff? |
| 19:57 | at least, for your follow-up? | |
| 19:57 | jcamins | Bug 7016 |
| 19:57 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7016 major, P1 - high, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , CanBookBeReserved uses GetItemsInfo unnecessarily |
| 19:58 | gmcharlt | as it stands, I think it is just about a blocker for 3.8 and a desirable backport to 3.6.x |
| 19:59 | wizzyrea | *nod* broken things are bad |
| 19:59 | sekjal | gmcharlt: yes, i think this is still a bug, and needs signoff. I've updated the status accordingly |
| 20:00 | * gmcharlt | grabs it, then |
| 20:04 | cait | gmcharlt++ |
| 20:05 | bug_fixing++ too | |
| 20:05 | libsysguy | @karma bug_fixing |
| 20:05 | huginn` | libsysguy: Karma for "bug_fixing" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. |
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| 20:16 | * jcamins | calls it a day early. |
| 20:24 | gmcharlt | ok, done - bug 7016 should now be in a better state |
| 20:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7016 major, P1 - high, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , CanBookBeReserved uses GetItemsInfo unnecessarily |
| 20:24 | gmcharlt | note that there is a follow-up patch for the follow-up |
| 20:30 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:30 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.4°C (10:29 PM CEST on April 11, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:32 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 20:32 | huginn` | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on April 12, 2012). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:33 | cait | you win |
| 20:33 | brr. | |
| 20:33 | wizzyrea | @wunder 66049 |
| 20:33 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Near Free State High, Lawrence, Kansas is 14.5°C (3:32 PM CDT on April 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Falling). |
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| 20:41 | sekjal | thanks, gmcharlt! |
| 20:48 | cheers, #koha! | |
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| 21:46 | SJeffery | I am curious...is there a reason for hiding all the location information for serials subscriptions from the end-user interface? I can't for the life of me see how a user would know the call number a journal is shelved at. |
| 21:47 | rangi | if its shelved it will be on the holdings tab |
| 21:47 | complete with call number | |
| 21:48 | SJeffery | What about when an item record is not created when an issue is received? |
| 21:48 | rangi | if an item doesnt exist, how can you shelve it? |
| 21:49 | SJeffery | You would import a record and then add the subscription. The subscription would essentially be the item record? Or is there an assumption that you would create a generic item record to go with it (without a barcode)? |
| 21:50 | rangi | i think the latter |
| 21:50 | ive only seen no items used for electronic subscriptions | |
| 21:51 | SJeffery | Ah, ok. Weird. |
| 21:51 | rangi | weird that you have item record if you have an item? :) |
| 21:52 | SJeffery | Well you really do not have an item if you are not cataloging at the item level. |
| 21:52 | rangi | can you hold it in your hand? |
| 21:52 | then you have an item | |
| 21:52 | SJeffery | It should probably default to the subscriptions tab if there are no items loaded because the subscription then becomes the holdings information. |
| 21:53 | rangi | whether it circulates or not is another thing entirely |
| 21:54 | you can send a patch for that behaviour, but you will need to wrap it in a syspref so ppl can turn it on if they have intangible items like your library :) | |
| 21:54 | SJeffery | I am all for more sysprefs:) |
| 21:54 | "Enable SJeffery's crazy library mode" | |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | @quote get 123 |
| 21:54 | huginn` | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 21:54 | rangi | "Enable ghost items" |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | you know I can't read your ghost items~ |
| 21:55 | rangi | heh |
| 21:55 | jcamins_away | SJeffery: you probably shouldn't be using subscriptions on analytic records. |
| 21:56 | SJeffery | Not use subscriptions for the analytics themselves or for the parent journal? |
| 21:56 | rangi | bbiab |
| 21:56 | jcamins_away | Not use subscriptions for the analytics themselves. |
| 21:56 | For the parent journal you should. | |
| 21:56 | SJeffery | Yup. |
| 21:57 | jcamins_away | But even if you catalog a serial, the items are treated on an item level. |
| 21:57 | For example, we just got in vol. 1, no. 2 of Boring journal. | |
| 21:57 | The record says we have vol. 1, no. 1- | |
| 21:58 | If we shelve that in Z1004 .C26, we'll have two items now: Z1004 .C26 vol. 1, no. 1 and Z1004 .C26 vol. 1, no. 2. | |
| 21:59 | If you do annual cumulations, those two issues aren't going to be shelved yet. | |
| 21:59 | When you bind them at the end of the year, you create an item record because they're actually getting shelved at that point. | |
| 22:00 | Does that make sense? | |
| 22:01 | Have you run screaming away in horror? | |
| 22:01 | SJeffery | Sortof. I am trying to find some examples in the demo |
| 22:01 | jcamins_away | I don't think you'll find any examples in ByWater's demo. |
| 22:02 | SJeffery | Darnit |
| 22:02 | jcamins_away | The data in that database is more public library-oriented. |
| 22:04 | SJeffery | http://opac.kohademo.esilibrar[…]iblionumber=80865 |
| 22:04 | Is that what you were thinking of? | |
| 22:04 | jcamins_away | Right, notice how there is no information about that? |
| 22:05 | That's because it isn't shelved yet. In most libraries that do annual cumulations only, there will be a section called "Periodicals" with signage explaining how to find things. | |
| 22:05 | BTW, is the text on that catalog bizarrely large? | |
| 22:06 | bag | yup |
| 22:06 | SJeffery | I think some patrons would call it "large enough that I can actually see it!" |
| 22:07 | jcamins_away | SJeffery: lol |
| 22:12 | SJeffery | That whole interface seems counterintuitive. As soon as a patron lands on that page they are asking "where is this magazine at and what issues do you own" None of that information is on the landing page. You can see it to some extent on the subscriptions page, but it is not exactly easy to read. |
| 22:14 | It indicates which library it is in but not the shelving location. | |
| 22:16 | jcamins_away | Does this link work at all: http://bobcat.library.nyu.edu/[…]StartWith0)=conta |
| 22:17 | SJeffery | I get a blank page |
| 22:17 | ibeardslee | same here |
| 22:17 | SJeffery | That might be the most search engine unfriendly URL I have ever seen! |
| 22:18 | jcamins_away | Yikes. |
| 22:19 | Hm. | |
| 22:19 | So, no. | |
| 22:19 | Let me try again. | |
| 22:19 | https://library.nyu.edu/persis[…]on=NYU&persistent | |
| 22:19 | Maybe that one? | |
| 22:19 | That's the most everything-unfriendly system I have ever seen. | |
| 22:19 | rangi | it only costs you about 400k too |
| 22:19 | SJeffery | That works |
| 22:20 | ibeardslee | yup |
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| 22:21 | jcamins_away | So what I wanted to point out is that if you click where it says "NYU Bobst Main Collection (E171 .A48)" NYU is using items for individual issues. |
| 22:22 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 22:22 | huginn` | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 14.3°C (6:18 PM EDT on April 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 12%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling). Frost advisory in effect from 4 am to 9 am EDT Thursday... |
| 22:22 | chris_n | winter in its death spiral |
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