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| 01:58 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 01:58 | jcamins_away | Greetings. |
| 01:59 | * jcamins_away | goes to bed. |
| 01:59 | * Brooke | steals jcamins' away |
| 01:59 | Brooke | night |
| 02:11 | someone remind francharb to drink one for me. | |
| 02:22 | @later tell druthb http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bi[…]exe?121+sum+HB752 | |
| 02:22 | huginn | Brooke: The operation succeeded. |
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| 06:10 | cait | hi #koha |
| 06:28 | kmkale | hi cait :) |
| 06:28 | cait | hi kmkale |
| 06:28 | kmkale | ltnc |
| 06:44 | fredericd | good morning cait. How is Marseille going? |
| 06:44 | cait | good :) |
| 06:44 | onl ysad it's the last day already | |
| 06:44 | fredericd | is it sunny? |
| 07:28 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
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| 08:02 | * oleonard | bursts in! |
| 08:02 | magnuse | yay! |
| 08:04 | oleonard | Last day of Hackfest :( |
| 08:04 | magnuse | :-( |
| 08:05 | kmkale | hi magnuse oleonard :) |
| 08:05 | magnuse | namaste kmkale |
| 08:05 | oleonard: when are you leaving? | |
| 08:06 | @wunder marseille | |
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| 08:06 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 14.0°C (9:00 AM CET on March 23, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:06 | magnuse | ooh, nice |
| 08:06 | @wunder boo | |
| 08:06 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:50 AM CET on March 23, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:06 | magnuse | meh |
| 08:06 | oleonard | I'm leaving very early Sunday morning |
| 08:07 | I think there will be some socializing tomorrow, so my week isn't quite over | |
| 08:07 | magnuse | ah, still some time, then |
| 08:07 | yay! | |
| 08:09 | oleonard | We're just trying to figure out how to best way to prioritize our remaining hours |
| 08:10 | Maybe just test and sign off rather than try to do anything new. | |
| 08:11 | magnuse | i'd vote for that :-) |
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| 08:11 | magnuse | ouch, needs signoff is back to 84 |
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| 08:11 | magnuse | i hope to do a little signing off today too |
| 08:11 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 08:12 | magnuse | hiya alex_a |
| 08:15 | * oleonard | is surprised this morning by the new dependencies introduced by Hourly Loans |
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| 08:17 | magnuse | which ones would that be? |
| 08:17 | oleonard | libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl |
| 08:17 | magnuse | ah, DateTime/Format/DateParse.pm |
| 08:17 | oleonard | libreadonly-perl |
| 08:17 | libreadonly-xs-perl | |
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| 08:18 | oleonard | Thanks to cait for keeping me from panicking when my staff client exploded ;) |
| 08:20 | cait | :) |
| 08:20 | you are welcome | |
| 08:22 | francharb | 0/ |
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| 08:22 | Joubu | hello |
| 08:23 | cait | good morning all :) |
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| 08:24 | gaetan_B | hello! |
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| 08:25 | reiveune | hello |
| 08:25 | wahanui | hola, reiveune |
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| 08:37 | oleonard | http://www.screencast.com/t/v98GyDqINXB1 |
| 08:37 | Suzzane | Halloo everyone |
| 08:37 | oleonard | Module-specific colors now possible thanks to Bug 7760 |
| 08:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7760 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton |
| 08:37 | oleonard | cait++ |
| 08:37 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 08:38 | that is awesome | |
| 08:39 | cait | hehe it was boring |
| 08:39 | and I missed 3 pages! | |
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| 08:40 | magnuse | just 3! :-) |
| 08:40 | cait | we know about so far... |
| 08:40 | magnuse | good job anyway! |
| 08:42 | cait: should bug 7780 be "needs signoff"? | |
| 08:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7780 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , fix translator tool verbosity |
| 08:43 | cait | hm no |
| 08:43 | I signed off on it | |
| 08:43 | magnuse | but then you said signoff depended on a followup... |
| 08:43 | cait | so no :) it souldn' :) |
| 08:43 | yeah, paul_p promised me a follow-up | |
| 08:43 | hope he will remember | |
| 08:44 | magnuse | better start nagging him ;-) |
| 08:48 | cait | hmmm |
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| 08:51 | Suzzane | Hi paul_p |
| 08:53 | paul_p | hi Suzzane |
| 08:54 | Suzzane | am good, |
| 08:54 | paul_p | hello #koha |
| 08:54 | Suzzane | we managed to configure the system |
| 08:54 | paul_p | today is the last day of the hackfest... time passes too fast :( |
| 08:54 | Suzzane | OPAC was a major challenge though |
| 08:54 | where is the hackfest? | |
| 08:54 | wahanui | i guess the hackfest is slowly seing hackers leaving... |
| 08:57 | oleonard | Suzzane: Marseille |
| 08:57 | wahanui | rumour has it Marseille is a very contrasted city, some parts are gorgeous, other parts are... well... not so |
| 08:57 | oleonard | Thanks wahanui :P |
| 08:57 | Suzzane, how was the OPAC a challenge? | |
| 08:59 | Suzzane | the programmers have tried to customize it as much as possible but the appearance is not sooooo nice. |
| 08:59 | oleonard | Is it public? |
| 08:59 | Suzzane | no, its a special library |
| 09:00 | i wish to come to scotland and learn more | |
| 09:01 | who is sending for call for papers | |
| 09:01 | i need to start preparing..... | |
| 09:02 | magnuse | http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/ |
| 09:02 | "The next information will probably be the call for papers." | |
| 09:02 | Suzzane | chap chap...... |
| 09:02 | africa is far, i need to plan earlier...... | |
| 09:03 | cait | I think mj said start of next week |
| 09:03 | there should be acall for papers | |
| 09:03 | Suzzane | bravo!!!!! |
| 09:03 | cant wait | |
| 09:03 | bye everyone..... enjoy your weekend | |
| 09:04 | magnuse | have fun Suzzane |
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| 09:09 | kmkale | she has been learning since pre kohacon11 |
| 09:10 | and she still feels confident enough to present papers | |
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| 09:10 | kmkale | amazing |
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| 09:30 | oleonard | Still trying to duplicate the problems reported with the patch for Bug 7178, not succeeding... |
| 09:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Improve order item creation |
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| 09:59 | francharb | cait, the 7178 patch still doesnt apply.. sniff |
| 09:59 | cait | ooh |
| 09:59 | I will come ant take a look | |
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| 10:00 | magnuse | oh wow, something made the response time of my installation of master much lower a couple days ago |
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| 10:18 | Topic for #koha is now 3.6.4 and 3.4.8 and 3.2.11 Now Available || Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org || Koha Community Official IRC Channel || Paste - paste.koha-community.org | |
| 10:32 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6679 : Fixing perlcritic violation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]64cf8fe1b469d1bc5> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7548' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9b93851aff5d92d0c> / Bug 7548 Fix variable scoping in the template - Rebased <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]git;a=commitdiff; |
| 10:32 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #679 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #675 18 hr ago) |
| 10:36 | alex_a | dpavlin++ |
| 10:36 | oleonard | cait, asaurat1 : Bug 7812 |
| 10:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7812 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add markup to staff client templates to increase customization options |
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| 10:41 | asaurat1 | oleonard: I like the idea! |
| 10:41 | oleonard | It's a start at least, and is not so difficult as re-writing with a new grid |
| 10:43 | asaurat1 | implementing a new grid will require a lot of preparation I guess, so this kind of easy step will be useful |
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| 10:58 | rangi | Sup peeps |
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| 10:59 | magnuse | rangi: friday in da house! |
| 11:00 | rangi | Saturday here |
| 11:02 | magnuse | rangi: by 2 minutes? |
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| 11:08 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
| 11:08 | cait | hi jcamins hi rangi |
| 11:08 | rangi: go to bed ;) | |
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| 11:13 | rangi | its the weekend and the kids are at their grandparents |
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| 11:18 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #679: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/679/ |
| 11:18 | * koha: Bug 7548 Fix variable scoping in the template - Rebased | |
| 11:18 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Fixing perlcritic violation | |
| 11:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7548 normal, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Pushed to Master , Missing arguments in the pagination of receptions |
| 11:19 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P1 - high, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests | |
| 11:19 | rangi | theres a patch of 5549 |
| 11:19 | that will make jenkins stable again | |
| 11:20 | s/of/on/ | |
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| 11:23 | juan_sieira | aloha #koha |
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| 11:32 | marcelr | hi koha |
| 11:32 | lunch in france? | |
| 11:33 | jcamins | Yes please! |
| 11:33 | marcelr | :) |
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| 12:16 | marcelr | working on bug 7178 now |
| 12:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Improve order item creation |
| 12:18 | pastebot | "kmkale" at 113.193.76.222 pasted "make test fails" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/318 |
| 12:18 | kmkale | fresh in the oven git install gives ^^ error in make test |
| 12:19 | new server, fresh git based dev install, no previous install or database | |
| 12:20 | * chris_n | thinks we should be making propositions and soliciting consensus on coding guidelines rather than arbitrarily dictating them |
| 12:20 | chris_n | re: mysqlisms post |
| 12:21 | marcelr | hi chis_n: sounded a bit like that, yes |
| 12:21 | chris_n | FTR, I agree with the proposition, just not the method of adding it to the guidelines |
| 12:21 | marcelr | chis=chris |
| 12:22 | kmkale | can anyone tell me a bit about above error? |
| 12:28 | * chris_n | comments on list |
| 12:28 | chris_n | kmkale: looking now |
| 12:28 | kmkale: it appears you have an empty db? | |
| 12:29 | kmkale | yah. new install |
| 12:29 | chris_n | hmm |
| 12:29 | kmkale | will be empty |
| 12:29 | chris_n | but that test should be in t/db_dependent if it requires a db to pass |
| 12:29 | so that's a bug imho | |
| 12:29 | jcamins_away | Agreed. |
| 12:29 | I think I patched it, too. | |
| 12:29 | kmkale | git log tell me it looks like bug bug 7284? |
| 12:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 12:30 | jcamins_away | I have to head into the city now, but I think there may be a patch from me awaiting sign off to fix that very issue. |
| 12:30 | If there isn't, let me know, and I'll try and track down where it went. | |
| 12:31 | * jcamins_away | heads into the city, will check back in from there to hear whether kmkale can find the patch. |
| 12:31 | jcamins_away | kmkale: you can safely ignore the error, though. |
| 12:31 | (I think this is the same error I encountered in the past) | |
| 12:31 | kmkale | jcamins_away: atleast that patch ( fix ) is not in master for sure |
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| 12:55 | marcelr | new dependency: Can't locate DateTime/Format/DateParse.pm in @INC ? |
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| 12:57 | marcelr | DateTime/Set |
| 12:58 | Readonly | |
| 12:59 | ah came through | |
| 13:01 | paul_p: dbrev 3.07.00.036 does not include a SetVersion | |
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| 13:13 | magnuse | dpavlin: bug 7810 says "on pack restart" - should that be "on plack restart"? |
| 13:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7810 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , C4/Auth.pm - on pack restart session is undefined |
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| 13:27 | marcelr | paul_p: working on bug 7376 |
| 13:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7376 critical, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Signed Off , Transfer limits should be checked at check-in |
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| 13:49 | jcamins_away | kmkale: did you test the unsigned off patch? |
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| 13:53 | oleonard | How's it going jcamins ? |
| 13:54 | * chris_n | greets oleonard |
| 13:55 | jcamins | oleonard: not bad. For a change I didn't have to go over to the new apartment this morning. |
| 13:55 | oleonard | Anything last-minute anyone's still hoping to get into 3.8? :) |
| 13:56 | marcelr | 7805 :) |
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| 13:56 | oleonard | Ah, that's a good one marcelr |
| 13:57 | marcelr | ;) |
| 13:57 | jcamins | Bug 7702. |
| 13:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7702 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Test for C4::Heading::MARC21 should only run under MARC21 |
| 13:58 | jcamins | Yeah, that's the big one I'd like to see. |
| 13:58 | (I mean, I'd like everything to get in, but that's a reasonable request. :P | |
| 13:59 | marcelr | true |
| 13:59 | jcamins | I guess 7702 won't be subject to feature freeze, since it just fixes some issues with the unit test. |
| 14:00 | Oh, the follow-ups for bug 5549 that fix the unit tests. | |
| 14:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans |
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| 14:04 | oleonard_ | is there a magic keyboard shortcut for "disable the wireless?" if so I found it |
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| 14:06 | jcamins | Poor libsysguy... he probably doesn't know what to do with himself anymore. :P |
| 14:08 | hdl1 | jcamins: ? |
| 14:09 | libsysguy | I'm prepping for the move today |
| 14:09 | jcamins | hdl1: hourly was pushed! |
| 14:09 | * libsysguy | is so excited to update after several months of being behind master |
| 14:09 | jcamins | hdl1: libsysguy has spent the last, what, year? trying to get hourly into Koha. |
| 14:09 | hdl1 | and he got it. |
| 14:10 | libsysguy | jcamins it has been about as long as I have been running KOha |
| 14:10 | so yes | |
| 14:10 | jcamins | hdl1: yup. So now he has nothing to do with himself. |
| 14:10 | libsysguy | actaully there are tons of patches I want to write now that hourly is in the core |
| 14:10 | hdl1 | well there is always new grounds and horizons. |
| 14:10 | jcamins | True. |
| 14:11 | libsysguy | and convert all of C4::Dates over to the koha Koha namespace :) |
| 14:11 | so this may be a dumb point to bring up but im curious | |
| 14:12 | I saw the stuff on the devel list about database integration for postgres | |
| 14:12 | why not have a way to implement database drivers? | |
| 14:12 | similar to the model in an MVC style system | |
| 14:12 | and in your application logic you don't actaully write sql, you just use the model | |
| 14:13 | jcamins | libsysguy: mbalmer and other unidentified developers felt that it was better to write their own database driver. |
| 14:13 | This C4::DBQ. | |
| 14:14 | Rather than using DBI or something standard like that. | |
| 14:14 | * jcamins | disagrees with this decision. |
| 14:14 | libsysguy | hmm |
| 14:15 | jcamins | However, I don't care enough about database independence to do the work on switching to a sensible MVC architecture, so I'm ignoring the issue. |
| 14:15 | libsysguy | ahh I see... |
| 14:15 | i see a new project for me | |
| 14:15 | :p | |
| 14:15 | seems impossible enough | |
| 14:15 | jcamins | lol |
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| 14:32 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 14:32 | * jcamins | waves back. |
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| 14:36 | wizzyrea | very quiet |
| 14:39 | marcelr | hi wizzyrea |
| 14:39 | making some noise | |
| 14:39 | sorry | |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | hehehe |
| 14:39 | marcelr | france is recovering from the wine |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | OH I see. |
| 14:39 | kyleh | bug 7804 is ready for testing if you are interested. If anyone needs assistance, I'll be around. |
| 14:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7804 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Add Koha Plugin System |
| 14:40 | wizzyrea | awesome kyle |
| 14:40 | marcelr | sounds good |
| 14:40 | kyleh | it's a bit more complicated than most testing will be, as it modifies the file system, and also modifies koha-http.conf and koha-conf.xml |
| 14:41 | i've put some notes on the bug report | |
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| 14:47 | wizzyrea | i see what you did there |
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| 14:54 | maximep | wow, I love 7804. A plugin system is a great idea! |
| 14:55 | kyleh | yes, it's been in production at the CCFLS for quite a while now. It's really nice to be able to add new functionality without modifying the koha codebase. Especially for very specific task that don't make sense to have in koha proper. |
| 14:57 | jcamins | kyleh: I didn't look very closely, but does it support versioning? The description mentioned versioning, but when I glanced through the code, I didn't spot any support for that. |
| 14:58 | That seems to me pretty critical for version 1, because otherwise you can't tell if you successfully updated your plugin or not. | |
| 14:58 | kyleh | jcamins: right they don't, I should add that. |
| 14:58 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 14:58 | I love the idea, though. | |
| 14:58 | kyleh | It does have a last updated field, and a minimum Koha version, though it is not enforced. |
| 14:58 | jcamins | Yeah, I saw that. |
| 14:59 | kyleh | It should also have a max version as well. |
| 14:59 | jcamins | But if you're debugging a plugin, you really need to be able to track *exactly* which code you have installed. |
| 14:59 | kyleh | good idea, I think I'll add that now. |
| 15:00 | jcamins | Also, remember that we should be switching to .tt instead of .tmpl. |
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| 15:00 | jcamins | (not a huge issue, but since I was just looking at the code in lieu of having a computer to test it on, I noticed ;) |
| 15:01 | Additional question: what's C4::Dates for in there? | |
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| 15:03 | kyleh | for the date last updated part |
| 15:03 | jcamins | Doesn't seem to be used at all? |
| 15:03 | kyleh | it really doesn't need to be in there if I add a versioning system. |
| 15:03 | paul_p | marcelr++ (for QAing BibLibre patches ;-) ) |
| 15:03 | jcamins | Oh, it's used in the pm, not the pl. |
| 15:04 | paul_p | hackfester now presenting what has been done this week. I'll write an entry on koha-community.org soon |
| 15:04 | (still 3 hours left, it's not finished ;-) ) | |
| 15:04 | magnuse | yay |
| 15:04 | Bug 7727 is an easy signoff - just saying... ;-) | |
| 15:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7727 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , NORMARC XSLT OPAC detail view shows double tabs |
| 15:04 | jcamins | Bug 7702 is an easy sign-off, too. |
| 15:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7702 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Test for C4::Heading::MARC21 should only run under MARC21 |
| 15:05 | paul_p | biblibre patches are not easy to signoff but add great features everyone will be happy to have ;-) |
| 15:05 | marcelr | :) |
| 15:05 | jcamins | kyleh: I see you used the patron image upload code as a template. |
| 15:06 | kyleh: if you look at C4::Images, that was adapted from the image upload code to be slightly less brittle. | |
| 15:06 | kyleh | I belive so, it's been so long since I wrote the original code, I can barely remember ; ) |
| 15:08 | I was also wrong, versioning is enforced via a warning. | |
| 15:09 | marcelr | Looking at bug 5342 |
| 15:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5342 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Serial claiming improvements |
| 15:11 | magnuse | jcamins: to test 7702 - is it enough to set marcflavour = UNIMARC and run prove before and after the patch? that sort of thing? |
| 15:11 | jcamins | Koha DB versioning is enforced via a warning, not plugin versioning... right? |
| 15:11 | magnuse | or maybe just run t/Heading_MARC21.t directly? |
| 15:12 | jcamins | magnuse: yup. |
| 15:12 | magnuse: I'd sign off on yours except I'm not at home. | |
| 15:12 | I'd really like to get it in to 3.8. :/ | |
| 15:12 | Oh, yeah, that'd be much faster. | |
| 15:12 | kyleh | right, so if the plugins minimum version exceeds the koha version, it will warn that Koha is out of date for the plugin |
| 15:13 | magnuse | jcamins: works nicely, i'm signing off |
| 15:13 | jcamins | Yeah, that's good. Maximum version is also probably necessary, since people might write plugins as work-arounds for issues that exists in a stable version but not master. |
| 15:13 | *that exist* | |
| 15:15 | marcelr | Looking at bug 5354 |
| 15:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5354 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Partial duplication of a subscription |
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| 15:27 | magnuse | hdl and jcamins: should bug 7430 be set to signed off? jared has called it a "proof-of-concept commit" - not quite sure what that means... |
| 15:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio |
| 15:27 | jcamins | magnuse: it meant that it needed more eyes, and to be revised, which Juan did. |
| 15:28 | magnuse | so it can be set to signed off? |
| 15:28 | jcamins | I just copy-and-pasted the earlier commit message into it when I signed off to confirm that it still worked in every case that I had checked. |
| 15:28 | I think so. | |
| 15:28 | I probably should have revised the commit message, but I was feeling lazy. | |
| 15:28 | magnuse | :-) |
| 15:29 | ok, changed it | |
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| 15:33 | jcamins | clrh: is there some sort of planning document that you came up with about the C4::Search->Koha::Search[::]Engine migration? |
| 15:33 | Juan mentioned something about that. | |
| 15:34 | oleonard_ | Did you look on the wiki jcamins? |
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| 15:34 | oleonard_ | She was just showing us some of the work, and I know there was some info there |
| 15:34 | jcamins | oleonard_: I did not. The answer to my question, then is "yes, on the wiki." :) |
| 15:35 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]witch_to_Solr_RFC | |
| 15:38 | clrh | jcamins: hm paul will do a mail to resume hoackfest |
| 15:38 | we did a big debrief where people show us things | |
| 15:38 | jcamins: I put things on rfc solr on koha community | |
| 15:38 | jcamins | clrh: I found it, thanks. :) |
| 15:38 | clrh | it is really a draft |
| 15:38 | ok | |
| 15:38 | :) | |
| 15:38 | jcamins | oleonard told me where to look. |
| 15:39 | asaurat | oleonard_: cait: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6DJiCKQMPw |
| 15:39 | (but is there a video explaining this habbit of hugging people in Germany ? ;)) | |
| 15:40 | oleonard_ | Americans are huggers too asaurat |
| 15:40 | marcelr | Looking at bug 7470 |
| 15:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7470 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Babeltheque improvement and social networks links (like, +1,...) |
| 15:40 | asaurat | ok ! good to know =) that's nice but it's awkward too when you get the surprise ! |
| 15:42 | jcamins | asaurat: if you don't like surprise hugs, avoid American actors. Walk into a room full of actors you don't know, and they'll *all* try and hug you. |
| 15:42 | :) | |
| 15:43 | asaurat | I've always avoided Danny De Vito but so far he never tried to hug me |
| 15:44 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 15:45 | * magnuse | calls it a week |
| 15:45 | jcamins | magnus_afk: pizza? |
| 15:45 | wahanui | rumour has it pizza is in the oven |
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| 15:49 | oleonard | wahanui, you'd better back that statement up with real pizza |
| 15:49 | wahanui | oleonard: sorry... |
| 15:49 | oleonard | That's what I thought. |
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| 15:51 | clrh | jcamins: do you know poo concepts? if yes, do you have a feedback to give me on this: https://github.com/clrh/wip-searchengine-layer (it is reaaaally justa start but a start yet) |
| 15:51 | jcamins | POO? |
| 15:52 | oleonard | OOP? |
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| 15:52 | clrh | object oriented prog yes :) |
| 15:52 | jcamins | Ooh, yes. |
| 15:52 | clrh | poo is a frensh acronym |
| 15:52 | french | |
| 15:52 | jcamins | Hehe. In English that means something else. |
| 15:52 | clrh | oups you are right :/ |
| 15:53 | libsysguy | LMAO |
| 15:53 | how do you do a quote | |
| 15:53 | jcamins | So your thought is to have Data::SearchEngine::Solr be a separate CPAN package? |
| 15:53 | wizzyrea | @quote add |
| 15:53 | <the quote> | |
| 15:53 | clrh | jcamins: it is already the case |
| 15:54 | it is a cpan module | |
| 15:54 | hdl is writing the "Data::SEarchengine:zebra" with juan | |
| 15:54 | jcamins | I see. |
| 15:54 | clrh | it is just an api to acces a server, it is not koha specific |
| 15:54 | jcamins | So basically it's a wrapper around Yaz? |
| 15:54 | libsysguy | sorry clrh I didn't mean that in a bad way, I just have the sense of humor of a 12 year old :p |
| 15:55 | clrh | maybe hdl could better answer I think he uses zoom |
| 15:55 | libsysguy: I really didn't understand what you said | |
| 15:55 | jcamins | Right. I meant zoom. |
| 15:55 | clrh | ok |
| 15:56 | libsysguy | clrh: il est sorti comme un geste grossier |
| 15:57 | jcamins | So then instead of invoking zoom directly in Koha::SearchEngine::Zebra, we'll invoke Data::SearchEngine::Zebra? |
| 15:57 | libsysguy | on my part |
| 15:57 | clrh | in koha you could call C4::SearchEngine::Search->search no "zebra inside" |
| 15:57 | the implementation is hidden | |
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| 15:57 | jcamins | Right, but I'm thinking about inside the C4::SearchEngine::Zebra module. |
| 15:57 | clrh | in C4::SearchEngine::Zebra::Search which will call a Data::SearchEngine::Zebra |
| 15:58 | jcamins | Right. |
| 15:58 | clrh | ok |
| 15:58 | jcamins | That's what I thought. :) |
| 15:58 | clrh | great |
| 15:58 | jcamins | So there's two parts to this. 1) everything using Zebra has to go into Koha::SearchEngine::Zebra, and 2, there needs to be a Data::SearchEngine::Zebra. |
| 15:59 | clrh | Koha or C4? didnt' follow the discuss |
| 15:59 | hdl1 | jcamins: /me working on Data::SearchEngine::Zebra |
| 15:59 | clrh | but in <PATH>::SearchEngine::Zebra::Search and <PATH>::SearchEngine::Zebra::Index and other modles - depends of the use cases we will discover ;) |
| 16:00 | jcamins | Right. |
| 16:00 | hdl1: what will the query that Data::SearchEngine::Zebra look like? | |
| 16:00 | clrh | I will rename "lib" into Koha then (in wip-searchengine-layer |
| 16:01 | jcamins | I think it's better to take PQF, or to use some sort of external query tokenizer. |
| 16:01 | CCL is very, very buggy problematic. | |
| 16:01 | clrh | jcamins: not sure to be able to answer to all you quetsion, I have the feelings of a big work in progress :) |
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| 16:01 | jcamins | clrh: I know. But I'll pester hdl1 anyway. ;) |
| 16:01 | talljoy | anyone experienced problems with items.permanent_location not updating when an item is edited? The field is being set to NULL which then causes major problems when the CART sys pref is set. This causes significant data losses for libraries. |
| 16:01 | clrh | but it is cool you feel positive thing about what I show you (even if a little thing) |
| 16:01 | jcamins: np :) | |
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| 16:03 | hdl1 | jcamins: here you are. |
| 16:03 | http://paste.koha-community.org/319 | |
| 16:03 | jcamins | talljoy: I don't think the shelving cart works. |
| 16:04 | hdl1 | mmm seems that the pastebot is not really up. |
| 16:04 | talljoy | well, it does work. the issues is the items.permanent_location is being set to NULL |
| 16:04 | or not set at all. | |
| 16:04 | hdl1 | jcamins: remember it is first draft... |
| 16:04 | jcamins | hdl1: right. Why not PQF? |
| 16:05 | hdl1 | PQF, CCL2PRN, CQL are to be implemented |
| 16:05 | jcamins | (also supported) |
| 16:05 | hdl1 | and supported. |
| 16:05 | jcamins | Okay, so that will be there before this is finished? |
| 16:05 | SearchAuthorities for Zebra has to use PQF. | |
| 16:06 | (stupid Zebra:( ) | |
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| 16:12 | jcamins | sekjal: made it safely back to Amherst, I see. :) |
| 16:13 | sekjal | jcamins: yes, survived my train ride, back at work |
| 16:20 | cait | hackfest is over :( |
| 16:20 | *cry* | |
| 16:21 | ok | |
| 16:21 | bye all! | |
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| 16:25 | hdl | jcamins: would xml only for zebra results be an option in your opinion ? |
| 16:26 | (asking that because of that : | |
| 16:26 | <idzebra xmlns="http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/"> | |
| 16:26 | <size>1129</size> | |
| 16:26 | <localnumber>4</localnumber> | |
| 16:26 | <filename>/tmp/iwO6JH8239/biblio/exported_records</filename> | |
| 16:26 | </idzebra> | |
| 16:27 | jcamins | hdl: it seems to me that would be acceptable. |
| 16:29 | hdl: I don't think there's really any advantage from using USMARC format. | |
| 16:30 | * marcelr | waves goodbye |
| 16:31 | jcamins | hdl: if we switch to XML-only with Zebra, we'll have to fix how we store biblioitems.marcxml. |
| 16:32 | Right now it's not entirely valid XML, so the DOM filter gets unhappy. | |
| 16:32 | (the XML header should be generated on the fly, not stored in marcxml) | |
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| 16:52 | clrh | I leave bybye |
| 17:09 | chris_n | biblibre++ # for the hackfest |
| 17:09 | looks like it was very productive | |
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| 17:18 | * dpavlin | whishes everything best to all people at #hackfest12 |
| 17:28 | sekjal | yes, great job to the hackfesters! Koha 3.8 is going to ROCK |
| 17:36 | jcamins | Wow, life really is much better with bug 7284. :) |
| 17:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
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| 17:38 | mbalmer | re. |
| 17:38 | back home. | |
| 17:41 | jcamins? | |
| 17:41 | wahanui | i think jcamins is an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra or against all things wine. |
| 17:41 | jcamins | Yes? |
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| 17:50 | mbalmer | hi jcamins. just a clarification, since you start spreading FUD about DBQ: The goal is *NOT* to use a differen DB abstraction layer. We use DBI wherever possible (see the latest patch in bug 7365), DBQ is only, and really only, for those cases that can not be covered by DBI or standard SQL. |
| 17:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7365 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, marc, Needs Signoff , Koha uses MySQL |
| 17:50 | mbalmer | it is the last resort. |
| 17:50 | jcamins | mbalmer: I stand corrected, then. |
| 17:51 | Apologies. | |
| 17:51 | mbalmer | and we try hard to keep it as small as possible. |
| 17:51 | np. | |
| 17:51 | jcamins | My understanding was that DBQ was intended as an *alternative* to using DBI's methods for retrieving column information, etc. |
| 17:51 | mbalmer | I just wanted to make it clear. when we saw Ian Walls reply, we rewrote that part to use DBI column_info(). It is really not the intend to duplicate code that is in DBI. |
| 17:52 | jcamins, no, that was not the goal. Sorry if I made it look like that, I was unclear, then. | |
| 17:52 | hdl | see you folks. |
| 17:53 | mbalmer | The order should be like this: 1) Standard SQL wherever possible, 2) DBI for metadata access etc 3) DBQ if there is really no other solution |
| 17:53 | wizzyrea | later hdl |
| 17:53 | hdl | Thanks for coming and for your work mbalmer |
| 17:53 | mbalmer | hdl, it was really nice being there, thanks for organizing! |
| 17:54 | jcamins | mbalmer: okay, so long as 1 and 2 come first (and it was my understanding that we were going in the order 3, 1, and never 2), that makes sense. |
| 17:54 | mbalmer | It has to be stated loud and clearly: BibLibre did a great job organizing the Hackfest, many, many thanks! |
| 17:55 | jcamins, ok, so I guess we settled that one. I will also mention that on the corresponding Wiki page. | |
| 17:56 | jcamins | No doubt you can see why I would object strongly to that. |
| 17:56 | ;) | |
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| 17:58 | mbalmer | the basic problem was, that stephane and I choose a bad example for DBQ, something that can very easily be accomplished using DBI. |
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| 18:40 | sjeffery | Dag nabbit, where is that page that lists % of code contributions by company? |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea | oh, sec |
| 18:41 | jcamins | sjeffery: rangi does a statistics thing every so often. |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | http://www.ohloh.net/p/koha?re[…]ojectPartnerBadge |
| 18:41 | this may be one of them | |
| 18:42 | ohloh usually has pretty good stats. | |
| 18:42 | sjeffery | I suspect I am not supposed to get a large block of white space in the center |
| 18:42 | wizzyrea | flash? |
| 18:43 | jcamins | IE6. |
| 18:43 | * wizzyrea | shudders |
| 18:43 | sjeffery | Running 8 but going through a weird proxy server. |
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | hm |
| 18:43 | jcamins | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/?s=statistics |
| 18:44 | wizzyrea | yea that'd be another place |
| 18:44 | i like the ohloh ones because they are 3rd party. | |
| 18:44 | jcamins | wizzyrea: yeah, but it doesn't list company that I can see. |
| 18:45 | sjeffery | Further down |
| 18:45 | Look how many lines Chris had removed...must be an aweful coder, right? :) | |
| 18:50 | I had never realized how much biblibre does | |
| 18:50 | wizzyrea | a lot :) |
| 18:50 | plus paul is RM atm | |
| 18:50 | so that skews it a bit | |
| 18:50 | the employer of the RM usually gets a bit of a boost :) | |
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| 18:52 | druthb | o/ |
| 18:52 | sjeffery | Morning! |
| 18:52 | wahanui | morning is a state of mind. |
| 18:53 | jcamins | lol |
| 18:53 | Very true. | |
| 18:53 | wahanui | I know. That's why I said it. |
| 18:53 | * druthb | squints at wahanui. |
| 18:54 | druthb | wahanui: druthb? |
| 18:54 | wahanui | She finally snapped, like we all knew she would. |
| 18:54 | druthb | just checkin'. |
| 18:55 | * jcamins | tries to figure out where the Prince of Wales would be likely to sit for a portrait in a toy room. |
| 18:57 | wizzyrea | i know, he seemed almost sentient there didn't he ;) |
| 19:00 | druthb | it's very suspicious, wizzyrea. |
| 19:00 | * wizzyrea | pounces druthb with hugs |
| 19:00 | druthb | :D |
| 19:00 | * druthb | gets pounced |
| 19:02 | jcamins | Where did one find the Prince of Wales in 1863? |
| 19:02 | * druthb | wonders about jcamins' sanity sometimes, truly. |
| 19:06 | jcamins | druthb: Albert Edward is the Prince of Wales in question. |
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| 19:08 | * libsysguy | unleashes master on prod |
| 19:08 | jcamins | libsysguy: at 2pm? |
| 19:08 | You're not even waiting until 5? | |
| 19:08 | libsysguy | its our slow time |
| 19:08 | the librarians told me "friday afternoon" | |
| 19:09 | besides nobody checks out books from my library :p | |
| 19:09 | jcamins | I would have thought they meant 5pm. |
| 19:09 | libsysguy | meh I sent out an email for 2pm for objections |
| 19:09 | i received none…i did receive excited emails for new features | |
| 19:10 | all the searching goes through Ebsco anyway | |
| 19:10 | so front end users really shouldn't notice a difference | |
| 19:11 | bag | wow good luck - I wonder how stable master really is :) |
| 19:11 | if you're going all out - you might as well put plackup on it too ;) | |
| 19:12 | * sekjal | applauds libsysguy for running master |
| 19:13 | libsysguy | plackup? |
| 19:13 | jcamins | libsysguy: dpavlin reported a gazillion bugs. I'd recommend against it. |
| 19:13 | sjeffery | I read that and I thought it was some sort of platapus-based backup system |
| 19:13 | druthb | we need a librarian in here for an emergency shushing! |
| 19:13 | * druthb | points at bag. |
| 19:13 | sekjal | libsysguy: PSGI instead of CGI |
| 19:13 | much faster | |
| 19:14 | jcamins | sjeffery: I want one of those! |
| 19:14 | sekjal | apparently it's pretty good for the OPAC, but not stable yet for intranet |
| 19:14 | libsysguy | oh i see |
| 19:14 | well considering not many people use the opac | |
| 19:14 | and I'd get complaints from intranet users | |
| 19:14 | maybe I'll hold off :p | |
| 19:14 | jcamins | Good plan. |
| 19:15 | libsysguy | if i delete the kohaclone folder and re-checkout I shouldn't have to run the install again right? |
| 19:15 | jcamins | libsysguy: what are you doing? |
| 19:15 | libsysguy | my repo is messed up |
| 19:16 | and i got a conflict on the po files | |
| 19:16 | from when I was a bigger git newb than I am now | |
| 19:16 | and instead of dealing with that I thought I could just delete kohaclone and recheckout | |
| 19:16 | sekjal | libsysguy: do you have uncommitted changes? |
| 19:16 | libsysguy | none that I need to keep |
| 19:17 | jcamins | libsysguy: just do git stash |
| 19:17 | libsysguy: then do git checkout -b master_whatever origin/master | |
| 19:17 | libsysguy | apparently whatever changes I made happened in the master branch |
| 19:17 | sekjal | git fetch origin first, if you haven't already |
| 19:17 | libsysguy | would that have any affect on it |
| 19:17 | jcamins | Then rerun the installer because you'll need to update all the config files. |
| 19:17 | sekjal | libsysguy: that's okay |
| 19:18 | you can create a fresh new branch off origin/master | |
| 19:18 | libsysguy | ok |
| 19:18 | sekjal | then rename the current master to master_old |
| 19:18 | and the master_whatever to master | |
| 19:18 | libsysguy | ok cool i can do that |
| 19:20 | ok cool that worked…dunno why I thought the origional checkout was important | |
| 19:20 | anyway | |
| 19:20 | I shouldn't have to rerun the install right? | |
| 19:21 | sekjal | libsysguy: no, your koha-dev should be fine, though you may want to verify your zebra configs |
| 19:21 | libsysguy | ok |
| 19:21 | thanks sekjal | |
| 19:21 | jcamins++ sekjal++ | |
| 19:21 | jcamins | And do remember to update all the Zebra configs. |
| 19:21 | Your catalogers will notice if you don't. | |
| 19:21 | libsysguy: you have to rerun make and make install. | |
| 19:21 | Or manually update the Zebra config files. | |
| 19:22 | libsysguy: when sekjal says "verify your zebra configs," he actually means "replace everything in etc/zebradb/marc_defs and etc/zebradb/authorities and etc/zebradb/biblios and etc/zebradb/etc | |
| 19:22 | libsysguy | were there changes to the config files? |
| 19:22 | ok I can re-run make…I'll just backup koha-conf | |
| 19:23 | and my web config | |
| 19:23 | jcamins | libsysguy: yeah, that's what I'd recommend. |
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| 19:29 | * libsysguy | crosses fingers that cpan doesn't fail |
| 19:29 | jcamins | libsysguy: what are you installing from CPAN? |
| 19:30 | libsysguy | Modern::Perl |
| 19:30 | and some other Dependencies from make | |
| 19:30 | jcamins | libsysguy: sudo apt-get install libmodern-perl-perl? |
| 19:30 | libsysguy | oops |
| 19:30 | oh well | |
| 19:30 | its almost done | |
| 19:30 | * libsysguy | defaults to cpan |
| 19:31 | * jcamins | defaults to asking eythian what the apt package is. |
| 19:31 | libsysguy | lol |
| 19:31 | i always forget about the debs | |
| 19:31 | its always fun to watch the tests pass or fail | |
| 19:32 | reminds me of sekjal QA-ing :p | |
| 19:33 | * wizzyrea | defaults to google |
| 19:33 | wizzyrea | then eythian |
| 19:33 | * chris_n | defaults |
| 19:34 | jcamins | wizzyrea: well, yeah, that's true. |
| 19:35 | * sekjal | tried installing Plack on his laptop on the trainride home... felt like every single CPAN module was downloaded and tested |
| 19:36 | libsysguy | even the time travel module from cpan |
| 19:36 | that one is awesome | |
| 19:36 | jcamins | sekjal: no debs? |
| 19:37 | sekjal | jcamins: not that I could find... but i didn't look for very long |
| 19:41 | jcamins | libsysguy: did you take the production system down *before* you installed the prerequisites? |
| 19:41 | * chris_n | wondered why CPAN was slow this afternoon ;-) |
| 19:42 | chris_n | sekjal: I'll follow up on our discussion re contextualization next week |
| 19:42 | sekjal | chris_n: sounds good |
| 19:43 | jcamins | What are we contextualizing? |
| 19:43 | chris_n | jcamins: everything :) |
| 19:43 | jcamins | chris_n: ah. |
| 19:43 | sekjal | jcamins: circ matrix and some sysprefs |
| 19:43 | jcamins | Oh yeah. |
| 19:43 | I saw those e-mails yesterday. | |
| 19:43 | chris_n | feel free to jump in |
| 19:43 | the water's fine | |
| 19:43 | jcamins | libplack-perl |
| 19:45 | Okay, I'm not going to get any more work done today. My weekend is over. | |
| 19:45 | *week | |
| 19:45 | libsysguy | yes I did jcamins |
| 19:45 | jcamins | libsysguy: I had a feeling. Note for the future: install dependencies first. :P |
| 19:46 | I'll probably be back at various points over the weekend, and starting Tuesday I'll actually be living in our new apartment. :) | |
| 19:46 | libsysguy | haha |
| 19:48 | ack 30 db updates | |
| 19:48 | I was running v 3.07.00.006 | |
| 19:49 | update success :) | |
| 19:56 | has anybody seen this one yet Undefined subroutine &C4::Search::GetHiddenItemnumbers? | |
| 19:57 | sekjal | new one on me |
| 20:00 | libsysguy | hmm |
| 20:00 | im not getting it on my test install | |
| 20:00 | but im getting it anytime i do a search in prod | |
| 20:01 | *from the opac* | |
| 20:02 | sekjal | bug 6488 |
| 20:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6488 critical, P2, ---, srdjan, RESOLVED FIXED, opachiddenitems not working in master |
| 20:04 | libsysguy | hmm |
| 20:05 | rangi | @later tell sjeffrey http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ster/authors.html has unified history of all 4537 days the project has been running |
| 20:05 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:06 | sekjal | subroutine is still defined and exported... but it's not picking up... wonder why |
| 20:06 | libsysguy | is it in the search function |
| 20:07 | oh no... | |
| 20:07 | i wonder if I change it to C4::Items::GetHiddenItemnumbers | |
| 20:07 | sekjal | that would fix it |
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| 20:07 | libsysguy | yeah but its not the right way to fix it |
| 20:08 | seneca | Anyone familiar with LDAP authentication? |
| 20:08 | sekjal | use C4::Items qw(GetHiddenItemnumbers) |
| 20:08 | libsysguy | are you seeing the same error sekjal? |
| 20:08 | sekjal | libsysguy: not yet... will try |
| 20:08 | libsysguy | ill see if that resolves my issue |
| 20:09 | yeah that didn't make it find the function either | |
| 20:09 | seneca | I've got <update>1</update> in my koha-conf.xml, but the fields aren't changing in Koha when a user logs into Koha and the field content has changed in the LDAP source |
| 20:10 | libsysguy | seneca |
| 20:10 | one sec, I've got that set up | |
| 20:10 | let me patch my opac so searching works and ill pull up what I've got | |
| 20:10 | seneca | Thanks - I thought I did too, but I recently added more fields to populate from LDAP to Koha, and now it doesn't seem to be working... |
| 20:11 | libsysguy | oh |
| 20:11 | sekjal | libsysguy: not getting the error by searching the OPAC... do you have opachiddenitems set up? |
| 20:11 | libsysguy | sekjal…i am major fail…when I upgraded I definitely delete my css file in prog |
| 20:11 | yes I do | |
| 20:12 | which i suspect is why it works on my devel server and not in prod | |
| 20:13 | when I path C4::Items::GetHiddenItemnumbers | |
| 20:13 | it works | |
| 20:14 | seneca I lied | |
| 20:14 | I thought I had update on | |
| 20:14 | but I definitely do not | |
| 20:14 | im sorry | |
| 20:15 | seneca | that's ok - it seems to be working suddenly.. |
| 20:15 | guess there's more going on that I thought! | |
| 20:15 | libsysguy | haha |
| 20:15 | seneca | Always, right?! |
| 20:15 | :) | |
| 20:15 | thanks anyway | |
| 20:15 | libsysguy | did somebody come look over your shoulder |
| 20:15 | no worries, I'm glad its working | |
| 20:16 | seneca | nope - I'm all by my lonesome. :) |
| 20:16 | no one to blame but myself... ;P | |
| 20:18 | sekjal | libsysguy: I cannot reproduce the error |
| 20:18 | libsysguy | strange |
| 20:18 | maybe I can just leave it as I have it | |
| 20:18 | thanks for looking sekjal | |
| 20:18 | sekjal | can you try searching for a result set less than the max per page? |
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| 20:18 | sekjal | I have very few biblios |
| 20:19 | perhaps it's related to pagination somehow | |
| 20:19 | libsysguy | i can try *wonders what would have few results |
| 20:19 | sekjal | specific author? |
| 20:20 | seanb joined #koha | |
| 20:20 | libsysguy | trying |
| 20:20 | still failed | |
| 20:20 | seanb | howdy |
| 20:20 | got an odd question | |
| 20:21 | libsysguy | ohh likes odd questions |
| 20:21 | seanb | perfect! |
| 20:21 | i was asking a ton of questions yesterday, because i decided to do a git install. nuked it and went with a package install. | |
| 20:21 | wizzyrea | the first question |
| 20:21 | wahanui | somebody said the first question was "What are you trying to do?" |
| 20:22 | seanb | so, i need to set up my zebra cron. i know i'm supposed to use the koha user to run those, but i have two possible koha users. not sure which to use |
| 20:23 | libsysguy | the one you used to install with |
| 20:23 | seanb | in the koha-conf file, the user is listed "koha_koha". and the password is there |
| 20:23 | libsysguy | is what I would do |
| 20:23 | seanb | however, in /etc/passwd i see "koha-koha" |
| 20:23 | libsysguy | koha_koha should be your database user |
| 20:23 | seanb | right |
| 20:23 | libsysguy | koha-koha should be the system user |
| 20:23 | so use your system user to run the cron | |
| 20:24 | seanb | i have no idea what the password is for koha-koha. and this is my question: how do i find it? |
| 20:24 | i didn't make that account | |
| 20:24 | i assume the package did | |
| 20:25 | libsysguy | well you can do sudo su |
| 20:25 | then passwd koha-koha | |
| 20:25 | and reset it | |
| 20:25 | but im no pro on package installs | |
| 20:25 | rangi | you dont need to set up your zebra cron |
| 20:25 | if you are running packages | |
| 20:25 | its already done | |
| 20:25 | seanb | cool. i wasn't sure if changing the password for system koha was bad or good |
| 20:25 | rangi | in /etc/cron.d/koha-common |
| 20:25 | seanb | ah |
| 20:25 | libsysguy | thanks rangi, I didn't know package did that |
| 20:26 | rangi | there is no reason to su or login as that user ever |
| 20:26 | seanb | well look at that. steps through the cron file |
| 20:26 | sweet | |
| 20:27 | or not | |
| 20:28 | what if i want to utilize those other cron jobs? | |
| 20:30 | how would i safely add them to the koha user's crontab? | |
| 20:31 | rangi | look at cron.daily/koha-common and others, you'll find they already are |
| 20:31 | it would be a huge mistake to add cron jobs without understanding what are running already | |
| 20:32 | seanb | definitely agree with that, after jacking up my first couple of installs |
| 20:44 | seneca | Figured it out! |
| 20:44 | sekjal | you know what we need? a library traffic emulator. something that creates a bunch of transactions at some rate faster than normal time, and allows benchmarking, load testing, and debugging |
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| 20:45 | wizzyrea | yes. |
| 20:45 | seneca | If anyone's interested: When authenticating to an LDAP source with update=1 in koha-conf.xml, if one of the fields being imported doesn't make sense to Koha, Koha won't update any of the patron's fileds |
| 20:45 | sekjal | seneca: very interesting... that should probably be noted somewhere |
| 20:46 | seneca | for example: I had a patron categorycode in my LDAP source that was "lsk" but Koha had the category as "lsk1" |
| 20:46 | The original problem I was seeing was a lack of updating, but it turns out the cause was incorrect data in an LDAP field | |
| 20:46 | Where would I document such a thing? | |
| 20:47 | I'd be happy to do it. | |
| 20:47 | sekjal | wizzyrea: do we have an LDAP FAQ section of the website? |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | sekjal: no, probably not. |
| 20:48 | do you want one? | |
| 20:48 | rangi | sekjal: have you seen what we have? |
| 20:48 | sekjal | rangi: looking at FAQ now |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | and it needs a bit of love anyway |
| 20:48 | sekjal | I did a blog post a while back on the current state of Koha LDAP |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | FAQ's for package installs, for instance |
| 20:49 | or package oriented entries in existing faqs | |
| 20:49 | sekjal | it may also make sense to go into the documentation... which would be nengard's realm |
| 20:50 | rangi | sekjal: i meant misc/load_testing :) |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 20:50 | sekjal | rangi: yes, I've seen that |
| 20:50 | rangi | they need a total rewrite |
| 20:51 | beyond salvage really, but the idea is ok | |
| 20:51 | seneca | Well, if anyone wants me to, I'd be happy to write up a description of that behavior. Just email me: bryan.lakatosgmail.com |
| 20:51 | I got to run (now that I've got that fixed). | |
| 20:51 | Later! | |
| 20:51 | rangi | id do it with WWW::Mechanize |
| 20:51 | sekjal | would be nice if the behaviour could be built to be a little more intelligent. something to emulate user click patterns on search results |
| 20:51 | rangi | and profiles |
| 20:52 | sekjal | ooooh, track web analytics with Piwik, then build user emulator profiles off of that |
| 20:53 | come up with a bunch of user types, then mix them together in various ratios and volumes to see the end results | |
| 20:54 | rangi | or |
| 20:56 | selenium | |
| 20:56 | wahanui | hmmm... selenium is more things like "perform this action, ensure that this is the result" |
| 20:57 | sekjal | yes, we would need to track the expected behaviour, then report any deviations from that |
| 20:57 | could be a fun project | |
| 20:57 | but for another weekend: this weekend will probably be yardwork | |
| 20:57 | later, all. Must dash | |
| 20:57 | great work, hackfesters! | |
| 20:57 | rangi | *nod* |
| 20:57 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: were you successful? |
| 20:58 | libsysguy | mostly |
| 20:58 | there was an error in search.pm | |
| 20:58 | it couldn't find GetHiddenItemnumbers | |
| 20:58 | for some reason it was looking in search for the function instead of Items.pm | |
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| 20:59 | libsysguy | sekjal couldn't recreate so I just prepended C4::Items:: |
| 20:59 | jcamins_away | You need to add "require C4::Items" on the line before, and prepend C4::Items::. |
| 20:59 | libsysguy | yeah but why is it only happening on my instance lol |
| 21:00 | jcamins_away | Ah, no idea. |
| 21:00 | libsysguy | Search.pm has use Items |
| 21:00 | so its super weird | |
| 21:00 | i even added Items qw('GetHiddenItemnumbers') | |
| 21:00 | and it failed | |
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| 21:01 | jcamins_away | Okay, *tht* is weird. |
| 21:01 | libsysguy | exactly |
| 21:01 | jcamins_away | *that |
| 21:01 | Ugh. Stupid Amazon. | |
| 21:01 | libsysguy | ? |
| 21:02 | jcamins_away | I always forget that some orders they'll only send to the first address you have configured. |
| 21:02 | Even if you select a different one. | |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | boooo |
| 21:02 | libsysguy | thats weird |
| 21:02 | jcamins_away | Thankfully we haven't actually moved yet. |
| 21:02 | * cait | waves |
| 21:03 | bag | cait you back home? |
| 21:03 | cait | nope |
| 21:03 | we had our last dinner in marseille | |
| 21:03 | dobrica, marijana, owen and me | |
| 21:04 | bag | oh cool |
| 21:04 | cait | and now I am back and sad in my hotel room |
| 21:04 | bag | :( |
| 21:04 | * jcamins_away | has his new switch. This is reason to be happy! :D |
| 21:04 | cait | hmpf |
| 21:04 | switch vs. real people - switch looses :) | |
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| 21:04 | jcamins_away | cait: true, but at least I have a switch. :P |
| 21:08 | gmcharlt | @bug 7818 |
| 21:08 | huginn | gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records |
| 21:08 | bag | YAY |
| 21:09 | * gmcharlt | will be engaging in some major code-throwing this weekend |
| 21:09 | gmcharlt | hopefully all to the good |
| 21:09 | jcamins_away | gmcharlt: around? |
| 21:09 | cait | oh wow |
| 21:09 | jcamins_away | Oh, there's gmcharlt. |
| 21:09 | cait | :) |
| 21:09 | * cait | waves at gmcharlt :) |
| 21:09 | jcamins_away | You should leave $9 as an option for tracings. |
| 21:10 | There's a syspref already for toggling that on/off. | |
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| 21:11 | gmcharlt | jcamins_away: noted |
| 21:11 | jcamins_away | gmcharlt: thanks. |
| 21:13 | jcamins | gmcharlt: is this MARC21-only, or are you actually brave enough to tackle UNIMARC as well? |
| 21:13 | gmcharlt | jcamins: I am cowardly hoping that the record.abs => XSLT conversion script will prove up to the task |
| 21:14 | jcamins | gmcharlt: that'll be quite a script! |
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| 21:14 | gmcharlt | certainly I'll at least make sure that any record.abs constructs in the UNIMARC configs get at least a nod towards handling |
| 21:14 | jcamins | Fair enough. |
| 21:14 | How are you doing any all? | |
| 21:14 | Or all any. | |
| 21:15 | Whichever it is. | |
| 21:15 | * jcamins | is operating under the assumption that much of this is already done... if you don't actually know yet, I can wait until you do. ;) |
| 21:16 | gmcharlt | jcamins: just a bit of XSLT that stuffs all <controlfield> and <subfield> content into a big indexed entry |
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| 21:17 | gmcharlt | I do expect this to pooch the size of the ZEbra indexes on disk |
| 21:17 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 21:17 | It certainly will. | |
| 21:17 | oleonard | Hi gmcharlt, long time no see |
| 21:17 | gmcharlt | oleonard: howdy |
| 21:18 | jcamins | Are you going to have the script combine like terms? That would be very useful, and reduce the "gee, I didn't expect it to do that" issue. |
| 21:18 | gmcharlt | jcamins: not quite following - example? |
| 21:18 | jcamins | melm 600$a Subject:w |
| 21:18 | melm 600 Subject:w | |
| 21:19 | The desired functionality is that every subfield of 600, including $a, should be in the Subject:w index. | |
| 21:19 | gmcharlt | jcamins: right -- and yes |
| 21:19 | jcamins | Excellent! |
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| 21:29 | * bag | is looking forward to the weekend code toss |
| 21:39 | oleonard | Okay I'll bite, bag, what's a code toss, and where? |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | is that like a caber toss? |
| 21:39 | bag | ah oleonard bug 7818 |
| 21:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records |
| 21:39 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: less painful, hopefully |
| 21:40 | bag | oleonard: it should be a great base for plenty of more development (and hopefully better cross-subfield searching :) ) |
| 21:41 | gmcharlt | bag: oh, definitely cross-subfield searching |
| 21:41 | bag | of course :) (maybe hopefully was a typo - it is Friday afternoon after all) |
| 21:42 | oleonard | So some kind of code sprint is happening to make it so? |
| 21:42 | gmcharlt | oleonard: yep |
| 21:42 | oleonard | Awesome |
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| 21:43 | cait | gmcharlt: pulling in information from authorities? |
| 21:43 | * cait | looks at you hopefully |
| 21:43 | mbalmer | mm |
| 21:43 | gmcharlt | cait: no, but will include the beginning of a framework to make that possible |
| 21:43 | cait | that's ok :) |
| 21:44 | I was reading through the bug | |
| 21:44 | so you would use a RecordNormalizer to do that? | |
| 21:44 | bag | yeah cait that is definitely one area that I see some more development to happen |
| 21:44 | gmcharlt | cait: exactly |
| 21:44 | cait | cool :) |
| 21:45 | bag | We did come up with a Spec for this - but I think we only ended up going with about half of it :) |
| 21:45 | jcamins | Guess I should update my bug to depend on the now-reported DOM bug. |
| 21:45 | bag | jcamins: what bug #? |
| 21:45 | jcamins | bag: lemme check. |
| 21:46 | Bug 7417. | |
| 21:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches |
| 21:46 | cait | :) |
| 21:46 | gmcharlt | jcamins: link away |
| 21:47 | cait | gmcharlt: I think you couldn't stop him :) |
| 21:47 | gmcharlt | cait: I rather suspected not ;) |
| 21:47 | cait | he is so excited about the possibilites |
| 21:47 | jcamins | :) |
| 21:47 | * gmcharlt | whispers "native indexing of MODS and EAD" into jcamins ear |
| 21:47 | jcamins | gmcharlt: yes, I had considered that. :) |
| 21:48 | bag | yeah this is really exciting :D |
| 21:48 | one of my favs so far | |
| 21:50 | cait | gmcharlt: don't... he will not be able tosleep! |
| 21:50 | jcamins | cait: I'm moving on Monday. |
| 21:50 | cait | you can't sleep anyway? :) |
| 21:50 | jcamins | Into the first real estate I've ever purchased. |
| 21:50 | bag | jcamins++ congrats :) |
| 21:50 | gmcharlt | jcamins: nice |
| 21:51 | * mbalmer | is trying to make the installer work with PostgreSQL |
| 21:51 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 21:51 | Very exciting, and the apartment is *beautiful*. Probably because we ended up redoing almost all the walls, one of the ceilings, replacing all the moulding, and rewiring. | |
| 21:52 | gmcharlt | jcamins: at least you're getting the remodeling done up front |
| 21:52 | jcamins | gmcharlt: well, some of it. |
| 21:52 | wahanui | some of it is, like, foolish pride |
| 21:52 | oleonard | I guess it's bed time for me. See y'all later |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | later oleo... bother. |
| 21:53 | cait | wizzyrea: he has to get up early to eat breakfast with me :P |
| 21:53 | jcamins | We'll be redoing the kitchen, knocking out a couple of closets, and possibly redoing the bathroom in a year or two. |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | lucky you |
| 21:54 | * mbalmer | will have to remove a lot of backquotes for this to work |
| 21:54 | jcamins | wizzyrea: yeah. |
| 21:54 | Lucky us. | |
| 21:55 | At least we have an excuse for quartz counters... the counters require replacement. | |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | well lucky cait too, she gets to have breakfast with oleonard |
| 21:55 | jcamins | True. |
| 21:56 | She's a lot luckier than us. | |
| 21:56 | I thought that was an ironic comment on the 5 figures worth of renovation awaiting us. | |
| 21:57 | cait | huh? |
| 21:57 | ooh | |
| 21:57 | ok | |
| 21:57 | jcamins | cait: wizzyrea saying "lucky you." |
| 21:58 | cait | perhaps I should go to bed too :) |
| 21:58 | maximep left #koha | |
| 21:58 | jcamins | Good idea. |
| 21:58 | Good night. | |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | good night cait |
| 21:58 | cait | I only said I hsould... don't take me that literally! |
| 21:58 | gmcharlt | :) |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | later peeps, weekend here! |
| 22:00 | bag | night night cait |
| 22:00 | later wizzyrea | |
| 22:00 | cjh joined #koha | |
| 22:00 | cait | hi cjh :) |
| 22:00 | later wizzyrea | |
| 22:01 | cjh | hey cait :) |
| 22:03 | cait | how is things? :) |
| 22:03 | bag | bug 7031 |
| 22:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7031 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , More options for AdvancedSearchTypes |
| 22:03 | cjh | stressful, a morning of silly mistakes >.> |
| 22:04 | jcamins | cjh: at least it's the weekend, right? |
| 22:04 | cjh | heh very true :) |
| 22:05 | cait | 3.8 will be amazing... but well ... koha is |
| 22:05 | but lots of fun things and bugfixes :) | |
| 22:06 | cjh | and now that I have access to my server back, time to get some actual work done :) |
| 22:07 | jcamins | cjh: on a weekend?!? |
| 22:07 | cjh | jcamins: im a student most of the time during the week, so weekends often involve work |
| 22:07 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 22:08 | * jcamins | doesn't know exactly what a weekend is, but he's been told it isn't supposed to involve work. |
| 22:09 | cait | hmm |
| 22:09 | I have heard rumours ;) | |
| 22:10 | cjh | although I enjoy my work, so it makes up for it :) |
| 22:10 | * jcamins | fills out five change of address forms for two people. |
| 22:11 | jcamins | Actually, maybe we just need four... one for Shari, three for me. |
| 22:15 | cait | jcamins: indexing of880 fields in the matching indexes? |
| 22:15 | jcamins | cait: yeah, very easy. |
| 22:15 | cait | oooh |
| 22:15 | it will be so nice | |
| 22:15 | jcamins | cait: tell gmcharlt to add that to his translation script. |
| 22:15 | :) | |
| 22:15 | * cait | is now too excited to sleep |
| 22:16 | jcamins | cait: you have to do it because I'm too much of a pest. ;) |
| 22:16 | cait | our evil indexing soluton is something of the last things we don't have in mater... because it's too ugly to go ther |
| 22:16 | I think by mentioning his name you already got gmcharlt's attention | |
| 22:16 | * cait | whispers 880 |
| 22:17 | jcamins | Yeah, but there are two parts to your indexing solution. The second part, including see-alsos, requires additional work. |
| 22:19 | * gmcharlt | whispers back the default XSLT can include automatically inclusion of 880s |
| 22:19 | cait | like... 880 ... 245 going into title index? |
| 22:19 | I always forget the subfields | |
| 22:20 | jcamins | $6. |
| 22:20 | gmcharlt | yes - it almost falls out of the implementation |
| 22:27 | cait | ? |
| 22:28 | jcamins | cait: it's that easy. :) |
| 22:29 | cait | ooh |
| 22:29 | nice! | |
| 22:30 | wondered if it meant it was too much work for now | |
| 22:30 | like not in the specification :) | |
| 22:30 | * cait | is happier with this meaning of 'falls out' |
| 22:33 | jcamins | Dinner time. |
| 22:33 | Good night, #koha. | |
| 22:33 | cait | night :) |
| 22:33 | cait left #koha | |
| 22:39 | gmcharlt | first search and retrieval of a bib indexed using the DOM filter ... success! |
| 22:40 | bag | sweet! |
| 22:41 | melia | yay! |
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| 23:06 | gmcharlt | WIP branch is dom-biblio in the wip/koha-equinox repo on git.k-c.org |
| 23:07 | I'll try to avoid rebasing in that branch; will push a clean branch when it is ready to submit | |
| 23:14 | * gmcharlt | relocates home |
| 23:42 | mr_chanokin joined #koha |
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