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| 00:00 | sekjal | ... and so did VirtualShelves |
| 00:00 | I've learned something | |
| 00:00 | rangi | that'll be it |
| 00:01 | sekjal | okay, so only db_dependent test to fix is Acquisitions, and that's already written |
| 00:02 | * jcamins | wanders off. |
| 00:02 | rangi | DBD::mysql::db do failed: Can't create table 'koha.virtualshelfshares' (errno: 150) at ./installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 4984. |
| 00:02 | that'll be the issue | |
| 00:04 | foreign key | |
| 00:11 | sekjal | hmmm, should t/db_dependent/Ratings.t depend on the test DB... none of the other tests seem to |
| 00:14 | rangi | !jenkins buld Koha_master now |
| 00:14 | jenkins_koha | rangi did you mean me? Unknown command 'buld' |
| 00:14 | Use '!jenkins help' to get help! | |
| 00:14 | rangi | !jenkins build Koha_master now |
| 00:14 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job Koha_master build scheduled now |
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| 00:14 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #671 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #668 9 h 58 mn ago) |
| 00:32 | rangi | sekjal: thats on a patch right? |
| 00:32 | found it | |
| 00:32 | sekjal | k |
| 00:33 | rangi | hmm |
| 00:34 | yeah | |
| 00:35 | it does depend on a biblio existing | |
| 00:35 | and a borrower .. the sample db has borrowers but no biblio's | |
| 00:35 | heh biblios | |
| 00:35 | so yeah that test will fail on the sample db that ships with koha | |
| 00:36 | was that what you were asking? | |
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| 00:47 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 00:47 | rangi | hi Oak |
| 00:47 | Oak | hello rangi |
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| 00:58 | rangi | sup libsysguy |
| 00:58 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 00:58 | Project Koha_master build #671: FIXED in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/671/ | |
| 00:59 | libsysguy | sup rangi |
| 01:00 | sekjal | rangi: sorry, distracted. I was curious about whether we should require a specific db installed in order to make db_dependent tests work |
| 01:01 | rangi | the plan was to make them work with the sample files that come with koha .. but im not sure thats feasible .. however having some sample biblio and circ rules would mean that if you did install the sample files you would have a koha that you could actually evaluate a bit better |
| 01:01 | so getting the stuff in the sample db .. does have a positive side effect | |
| 01:01 | install sample records and items | |
| 01:01 | install sample circulation rules | |
| 01:01 | etc | |
| 01:02 | sekjal | so should I add a SKIP wrapper to the Ratings.t, so the tests won't fail outright if the data isn't there to do the test? |
| 01:02 | rangi | actually thats a darn good idea, for 5549 too |
| 01:03 | Oak | sekjal++ |
| 01:04 | Judit | has anyone using chinese zebra in a library with 2(or more) branches- chinese and english |
| 01:04 | rangi | not me, but anthony mao might have |
| 01:04 | there's a whole koha-taiwan user group | |
| 01:06 | Judit | we started to use chinese zebra, but is also modified our english seraches- no surprice there |
| 01:07 | just want to understand a bit more | |
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| 02:40 | Brooke | O/ |
| 02:40 | rangi | hi Brooke |
| 02:41 | Brooke | howdy |
| 02:43 | Space_Librarian | \o |
| 02:45 | Brooke | :) |
| 02:46 | Space_Librarian | ;) |
| 02:47 | Judit | :D |
| 02:51 | Brooke | smiles all round |
| 03:06 | Topic for #koha is now General IRC Meeting 4 April 10.00 UTC | |
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| 03:54 | rangi | go to sleep paul_p ! |
| 03:54 | paul_p | ;-) |
| 03:54 | can't sleep anymore (5AM) | |
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| 03:55 | rangi | gonna be a long day then :) |
| 03:55 | paul_p | some count sheeps to sleep, I will push some patches instead :D |
| 03:55 | rangi | heh |
| 03:55 | Judit | :) |
| 03:55 | Brooke | paul_p++ |
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| 03:55 | paul_p | count sheeps => is it a frenchism ? |
| 03:55 | rangi | no -s |
| 03:55 | Brooke | non |
| 03:56 | rangi | sheep is plural and singular |
| 03:56 | Judit | it is a humanism |
| 03:56 | Brooke | or possibly the Kiwi way to aessess one's prospects. |
| 03:56 | * Brooke | ducks. |
| 03:56 | rangi | 87 bugs/enh pushed to master so far in march |
| 03:56 | Judit | :D |
| 03:56 | rangi | 104 passed qa |
| 03:57 | and 146 signed off | |
| 03:57 | kmkale | OMG!! Looks like the meeting is still on! Lay off ppl.. |
| 03:57 | rangi | lol |
| 03:57 | Brooke | hehehe |
| 03:57 | NEVAR | |
| 03:58 | * Brooke | sat a 17.5 hr. meeting once. |
| 03:58 | kmkale | yikes |
| 03:58 | poor chair | |
| 03:58 | ;) | |
| 03:58 | Brooke | thankfully I wasn't chair. |
| 03:58 | kmkale | no I meant the furniture :) |
| 03:58 | Brooke | went straight to lobbying from there, though |
| 04:00 | you might find this hard to believe, deary, but I was Ash's figure back then :P | |
| 04:01 | rachel maddow! | |
| 04:01 | kmkale | Gotta go. BBL. /finds no problems with any figure |
| 04:03 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #672 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 04:03 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7310 follow-up DBVersion was wrong <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]81802861738df7ec4> |
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| 04:12 | eythian_ | anyone have a guesstimate as to how many people are going to be at kohacon? |
| 04:14 | rangi | not me |
| 04:15 | total guess would be 80-100 | |
| 04:15 | going on previous ones | |
| 04:15 | eythian_ | ok, cool |
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| 04:33 | gcc | hI |
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| 04:47 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #672: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/672/ |
| 04:47 | paul.poulain: bug 7310 follow-up DBVersion was wrong | |
| 04:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7310 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) |
| 04:50 | skk | we upgraded our koha installation from 3.2.10 to 3.4.8 then to 3.6.4 while running upgrade we had also ran command ./remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl and then we ran rebuild_Zebra command. We are unable to see all bound volumes data after doing the upgrade. Can someone help us to know what has gone wrong. |
| 04:51 | when we checked in phpMyAdmin all these items are there in koha database. why are they not available in koha then neither from kohaadmin nor from OPAC. pl. help. | |
| 05:05 | Judit1 | you might one to do a full zebra rebuild |
| 05:06 | i would start with that | |
| 05:06 | skk | yes i did that with ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r -v |
| 05:06 | Judit1 | try this: |
| 05:07 | " /etc/init.d/zebra.sh stop" | |
| 05:07 | su koha | |
| 05:07 | export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib | |
| 05:07 | export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml | |
| 05:07 | export KOHA_CRON_PATH= /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs | |
| 05:07 | $KOHA_CRON_PATH/../migration_tools/http://rebuild_zebra.pl/ -a -r | |
| 05:07 | $KOHA_CRON_PATH/../migration_tools/http://rebuild_zebra.pl/ -b -x -r -v | |
| 05:07 | /etc/init.d/zebra.sh start | |
| 05:07 | adjust the path! | |
| 05:08 | skk | ok let me try and get back to u i had started running ./batchRepairMissingBiblionumbers.pl this to check if these biblios are missing by chance |
| 05:08 | ago43 | skk: try running rebuild_zebra first with authorities: -r -w -v -v -a |
| 05:09 | then, separately biblios: -r -w -v -v -b -x | |
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| 05:22 | anitsirk | rangi, are you about? |
| 05:32 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #673 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 05:36 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7771: "Notices" changed to "Notices & Slips" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]93a505178c8b53ac1> / Bug 7745: Wrong service name for CAS authentification <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9ad4a53c700df862a> / Bug 7753: serials-home displays library name instead of code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha |
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| 05:51 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
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| 06:01 | anitsirk | hello Oak and Irma |
| 06:02 | Irma | hi aitsirk and Oak |
| 06:02 | how r u anitsirk? | |
| 06:02 | anitsirk | how's the fall weather in sydney, irma :-) |
| 06:03 | Irma | sad sad indeed ... we have not really had a good summer :-( |
| 06:03 | had to fetch a jumper this afternoon | |
| 06:04 | Oak | :) |
| 06:04 | anitsirk | :-( it's been on and off drizzly for the last 3 days here. |
| 06:04 | Irma: do you happen to know if there is a list of sample notices? i am attempting to test a bug but the sandboxes do not have the routling list notice configured. :-( | |
| 06:04 | Irma | where are you located Oak? |
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| 06:04 | marcelr | morning |
| 06:04 | Oak | Pakistan |
| 06:04 | anitsirk | i couldn't find a link on the manual |
| 06:04 | evening marcelr | |
| 06:04 | marcelr | :-) |
| 06:04 | anitsirk | ;-) |
| 06:04 | Irma | thanks Oak |
| 06:04 | Oak | thanks Irma |
| 06:05 | :) | |
| 06:05 | why thanks Irma ? | |
| 06:05 | Irma | anitsirk in the demo sites you will find some notices |
| 06:05 | anitsirk | ah true. thanks. i'll check there. |
| 06:05 | Irma | let me check our demo site |
| 06:06 | which notice in particular r u looking for or does any do? | |
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| 06:06 | Irma | Oak thanks for your reply ... |
| 06:07 | Oak | got it. |
| 06:08 | just messing with you. | |
| 06:08 | hello cait. | |
| 06:08 | :) Guten Morgen | |
| 06:08 | anitsirk | Irma: i found the routing list notice. |
| 06:08 | hello cait. you are up early. :-) | |
| 06:09 | cait: i'm getting started with bug 5841 that you suggested to rangi for me to test | |
| 06:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5841 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Routing slip not displaying publication date |
| 06:09 | Irma | anitsirk Overdue notice https://demo-admin.calyx.net.a[…]ulation&code=ODUE |
| 06:09 | login anne pw koha | |
| 06:10 | cait | anitsirk: thank you :) |
| 06:10 | and hi Oak, Irma and anitsirk :) | |
| 06:11 | anitsirk | Irma: thank you. i needed the rlist. had a brain freeze for not thinking of a demo site. |
| 06:11 | Irma | Bonjour cait |
| 06:11 | Ca va a Marseilles? | |
| 06:12 | anitsirk ++ | |
| 06:15 | Cait isn't it great to be with other Koha hackers and achieving real progress ... | |
| 06:16 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #673: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/673/ |
| 06:16 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7700: Cart's more details view shows identity numbers | |
| 06:16 | * matthias.meusburger: Bug 7300 : Show working branch suggestions by default | |
| 06:16 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 7753: serials-home displays library name instead of code | |
| 06:16 | * julian.maurice: Bug 7745: Wrong service name for CAS authentification | |
| 06:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7700 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Cart's more details view shows identity numbers |
| 06:16 | jenkins_koha | * adrien.saurat: Bug 7771: "Notices" changed to "Notices & Slips" |
| 06:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , display suggestions from librarian library only by default |
| 06:17 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7753 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , when displaying serials, library name should be showed and not code | |
| 06:17 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7745 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Using OPACBaseURL for CAS Authentication | |
| 06:17 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7771 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Different texts in the Notices & Slips page | |
| 06:17 | anitsirk | cait: are you already up for a question? |
| 06:17 | cait | hm I think so |
| 06:17 | I am commenting about gst.... | |
| 06:17 | so it can't be worse :) | |
| 06:17 | anitsirk | hehe. nope i don't think so. ;-) |
| 06:18 | cait | Irma: it is great :) and going over too fast - only today and tomorrow now :( |
| 06:18 | anitsirk | on bug 5841 it says that the "publication date" should be printed. is that the date the issue was published or the date that the routing list was published? |
| 06:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5841 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Routing slip not displaying publication date |
| 06:19 | Irma | cait I know ;-( sorry for you ... |
| 06:20 | cait | Irma: it's ok :) |
| 06:20 | anitsirk: I thin it refers to the issue | |
| 06:20 | anitsirk: yep, the publication date of the issue -it was on one slip but not on the other | |
| 06:21 | anitsirk: so i made them the same | |
| 06:21 | anitsirk: did you already add a subscription and a routing list to your test database? | |
| 06:21 | anitsirk | cait: ah ok. then i'll see that i change the date when the issue was received so i don't get confused |
| 06:21 | cait | :) |
| 06:21 | anitsirk | cait: yes. i'm on http://pro.test4.biblibre.com |
| 06:21 | cait | ok |
| 06:21 | anitsirk | if you want to join me there :-) |
| 06:22 | cait | there are 2 ways to print the slips |
| 06:22 | that is basically the problem ,and one was missing a parameter | |
| 06:23 | anitsirk: does my comment on bug 2865 make sense to you? | |
| 06:23 | * cait | is still waking up |
| 06:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2865 major, P3, ---, chrish, Failed QA , Acquisitions: GST not calculating correctly. |
| 06:23 | cait | huginn too it seems |
| 06:23 | huginn | cait: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 06:23 | cait | !huginn botsnack cookie |
| 06:23 | huginn botsnack cookie | |
| 06:23 | huginn | cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 06:23 | cait | hm. |
| 06:25 | anitsirk | cait: makes sense to me. |
| 06:25 | cait | ok :) |
| 06:25 | anitsirk | cait: let me check way number 1 before getting to way number 2. still slow in finding my way around. |
| 06:26 | cait | I get easily confused by all the calculatoins in acq |
| 06:27 | anitsirk | every country is different... |
| 06:27 | cait | yes, makes it even more fun |
| 06:27 | anitsirk | cait: i see the publication date at http://pro.test4.biblibre.com/[…]21%2F03%2F2012%29 and also in the preview of the routing slip. |
| 06:27 | cait | and correct calculations are important in acq... so. arg. |
| 06:27 | what is the login for the sandbox? | |
| 06:27 | anitsirk | test / test |
| 06:29 | skk | can someone help. I am struggling to see if my bound volumes records are visible in kohaadmin and OPAC. I ran upgrade from 3.2.10 to 3.4.8 to 3.6.4 and after reindexing zebra the bound volumes data is not visible. When i create a report of barcode and titles all the records are available but they are not available in search |
| 06:29 | anitsirk | cait: with " Links in the table of issues on the serial collection page" do you mean http://pro.test4.biblibre.com/[…]?subscriptionid=3 ? |
| 06:29 | cait | hm |
| 06:29 | the links don't work too well I think | |
| 06:29 | on the left sidebar | |
| 06:29 | the link serial collection | |
| 06:30 | anitsirk | :-( |
| 06:30 | cait: i always seem to see the arrival date | |
| 06:30 | cait | we will figure it out |
| 06:30 | click on the name of your subscription | |
| 06:30 | the tabbed view | |
| 06:30 | of all subscription information | |
| 06:30 | are you there? | |
| 06:31 | I think that is right then | |
| 06:31 | I took the same infomration | |
| 06:31 | from the slip where it showed | |
| 06:31 | I used the same field - so it should be right | |
| 06:31 | the complaint was it showed only on one | |
| 06:31 | http://pro.test4.biblibre.com/[…]?subscriptionid=3 | |
| 06:32 | if you are there | |
| 06:32 | you can preview the slip following the steps from Edit routing list | |
| 06:32 | anitsirk | cait: https://skitch.com/anitsirk/8c8f1/serial |
| 06:32 | cait | or you can click print list |
| 06:32 | and both should show the same date in () | |
| 06:33 | anitsirk | yes. both have the same date, cait. does it matter that it is the arrival date of the issue and not the publication date of the issue? |
| 06:34 | cait | I am not sure really |
| 06:34 | you could note it | |
| 06:34 | and sign off saying it makes them the same but you are not sure if it should show another date? | |
| 06:34 | and leave that for qa | |
| 06:34 | i did this when I was searching for bugs I could solve | |
| 06:35 | hm | |
| 06:35 | from the code | |
| 06:35 | it's the serialplanneddate | |
| 06:36 | weird. | |
| 06:36 | anitsirk | yep sounds like it because that's the date you put into it. i'll add the note you suggested. |
| 06:36 | cait | ok |
| 06:36 | anitsirk | vielen dank, cait. |
| 06:36 | cait | sorry, I think this is confusing |
| 06:36 | anitsirk | yep, will say so. |
| 06:36 | cait | no thanks to you :) |
| 06:36 | and perhaps we need to hange it - but at least both slips will behave the same way now | |
| 06:37 | I think there is a small typo on your testing report for 5354 | |
| 06:37 | For aqbooksellerid and aqbooksellerid, ... :) | |
| 06:39 | only saying because perhaps they will ask about the second field | |
| 06:41 | anitsirk | ah thanks. will add a note once i'm done with this report. |
| 06:44 | thanks for checking, cait. the second vendor id should have been the biblionumber | |
| 06:44 | cait | I have subscribed to the bugs list |
| 06:44 | which is going crazy these days :) | |
| 06:45 | anitsirk | oh i bet. |
| 06:46 | Irma | **back in a while** |
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| 06:48 | anitsirk | have a great day / afternoon / evening. |
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| 07:07 | skk | 'can someone help. I am struggling to see if my bound volumes records are visible in kohaadmin and OPAC. I ran upgrade from 3.2.10 to 3.4.8 to 3.6.4 and after reindexing zebra some records are missing in kohaadmin and opac but when a report with barcode and title is printed those records are added in the report. why these records are not available in search |
| 07:09 | cait | skk: did you run the script to remove the itmes from the records after updating from 3.2 to 3.4? |
| 07:10 | it's probably that or an indexing problem I think | |
| 07:10 | skk | yes i had done running script to remove items |
| 07:10 | cait | sorry, I have to run, more people will be here later |
| 07:10 | skk | ok tx |
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| 07:39 | mtj | hmm, i seem to be hitting a stupid install/upgrade bug, of late.... |
| 07:41 | the problem seems to be, any minor db error in the upgrade causes the upgrade to loop, forever | |
| 07:43 | previously, these 'warning' type errors, would just print a warning in red, but the upgrade would succeed | |
| 07:44 | now, the upgrade seems to keep looping back to the previous 'you use must upgrade from 3.6.x to 3.6.y' step | |
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| 07:48 | alex_a | hello #koha |
| 07:48 | Oak | hi to hide subfields, i need to put -1 in hidden field? |
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| 07:52 | mtj | Oak: i cant remember, its in the manual |
| 07:52 | manual? | |
| 07:52 | wahanui | manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 07:52 | Oak | yes yes found it :) |
| 07:53 | cool | |
| 07:54 | and if I hide all the subfields of a tag, then during cataloging i am left with just the Tag of the field. | |
| 07:55 | Can I hide the Tag or do I have to delete it? | |
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| 07:55 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 07:55 | Oak | hi oleonard |
| 07:55 | paul_p | hi oleonard ;-) & all ! |
| 07:55 | rangi | morning marseille |
| 07:55 | Oak | :) |
| 07:56 | paul_p | new motto : "a good day is a day where the RM pushes at least 10 patches" |
| 07:56 | 3 already pushed today ;-) | |
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| 07:57 | mtj | Oak: hide it, dont delete it |
| 07:58 | (is the rule for frameworks) | |
| 07:59 | Oak | how can I hide the main Tag? I see no option to do that. Let me see again... |
| 08:00 | rangi | it owont show if you hide all the subfields |
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| 08:01 | Oak | hm, cait said the same thing. i hid all the subfields, but i still see the main tag (246), and is clickable, and when clicked shows the hidden field. |
| 08:01 | reiveune | hello |
| 08:01 | wahanui | hello, reiveune |
| 08:01 | Oak | or is it because i am logged as admin? |
| 08:02 | rangi | that shouldn't matter |
| 08:02 | Oak | hmm |
| 08:02 | rangi | i use the dropdown to hide it |
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| 08:03 | rangi | not the values (usually) |
| 08:03 | asaurat | hi! |
| 08:03 | Oak | here: /cgi-bin/koha/admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl?tagfield=246&frameworkcode=MIN i see "hidden" for all fields in "constraints" column |
| 08:05 | rangi | hmm |
| 08:05 | Oak | rangi, the dropdown? |
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| 08:07 | rangi | yeah you can choose which tab it shows on |
| 08:08 | Oak | i put ah |
| 08:08 | you choose "ignore"? | |
| 08:08 | rangi | yeah |
| 08:09 | try that | |
| 08:09 | Oak | okay |
| 08:09 | coool | |
| 08:09 | worked | |
| 08:10 | thank you rangi! | |
| 08:10 | rangi | 1no worries |
| 08:11 | hmm bad typing tonight | |
| 08:11 | Oak | no worries :) |
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| 08:23 | oleonard | Is there still a problem with translating <optgroup> ? |
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| 08:23 | Joubu | hello |
| 08:23 | wahanui | hola, Joubu |
| 08:24 | oleonard | Oh, I guess not (Bug 3672) |
| 08:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3672 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, labels of <optgroups> not translatable |
| 08:29 | marcelr | hi oleonard! up for a small question on lists? |
| 08:29 | oleonard | Yes |
| 08:29 | marcelr | what about this: Permissions on lists: Do not allow anyone to remove his own contributed entries. Is that line understandable? |
| 08:30 | (working on showing the permissions for a list_ | |
| 08:30 | ) | |
| 08:30 | skk | help pl. i am not getting bound volumes of few serials after upgrade from 3.2.10 to 3.4.8 to 3.6.4. these records are there in the database but they are not retrieved in search and when i run rebuildzebra it gives an error asMARC: Bad offsets in data. Skipping rest 13:56:37-22/03 zebraidx(29706) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number |
| 08:32 | rangi | did you run it -b -x -r -v ? |
| 08:32 | skk | yes did it several times |
| 08:32 | rangi | definitely with the -x tho eh? |
| 08:33 | that is the important bit | |
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| 08:36 | marcelr | oleonard: added a screenshot on 7310 to show what I meant |
| 08:38 | hi magnuse | |
| 08:39 | magnuse | hiya marcelr and #koha |
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| 08:41 | oleonard | Sorry marcelr, got pulled away |
| 08:41 | marcelr | added a screenshot |
| 08:41 | at bug 7310 to illustratie | |
| 08:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7310 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) |
| 08:42 | skk | no luck yet even after doing rebuild_zebra -b -x -r -v |
| 08:43 | rangi | you might like to do a select marcxml from biblioitems where biblionumber=a number that you having problems with |
| 08:43 | and check if it looks ok | |
| 08:43 | oleonard | marcelr, I'm confused about the first one actually. "[ Do not allow ] adding entries to this list" means do not allow /others/ to add entries? |
| 08:43 | marcelr | no it includes owner too |
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| 08:43 | skk | how to do that i have no clue |
| 08:44 | rangi | you did the upgrade on your test db eh? |
| 08:44 | skk | no live |
| 08:44 | marcelr | oleonard: include: anyone including yourself? |
| 08:44 | skk | but i have backup of old one which i can restore |
| 08:44 | oleonard | marcelr, so the owner can create the list, add items to it, and then prevent himself from adding new entries? |
| 08:45 | marcelr | if he wants so, yes |
| 08:45 | kind of closed list in the past | |
| 08:45 | rangi | skk: i suspect that at least one of yuour records has invalid xml in the marcxml column you need to find that one |
| 08:46 | skk | can u tell me hw to check that |
| 08:46 | rangi | you need to run that sql |
| 08:46 | skk | if i am guided with command wil try that |
| 08:46 | rangi | but if you don't know how to do that, you probably want to get someone who does to do it for you |
| 08:46 | because you dont want to make it worse | |
| 08:47 | cait | slef: around? |
| 08:47 | skk | i knw linux and have knowledge of executing commands only thing is which command to try |
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| 08:48 | oleonard | marcelr, I think it might be more clear to say "[ Do not allow ] anyone, including the owner, to add entries to this list" |
| 08:48 | ...but I'm concerned about the flexibility of these constructions with regard to translation. | |
| 08:48 | marcelr | it is just like the prefs |
| 08:49 | oleonard | True |
| 08:50 | marcelr | contributed entries sounds good to you? |
| 08:51 | oleonard | It sounds a little bit awkward to me, but I don't have a better suggestion |
| 08:51 | Easy to change if someone thinks of a better way to say it | |
| 08:51 | marcelr | ok, thanks |
| 08:52 | francharb | 0/ all |
| 08:53 | oleonard | Bonjour francharb |
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| 08:55 | francharb | 0/ oleonard ;) |
| 08:56 | the funny thing is that we are 3 m away from each other... ;) | |
| 08:56 | oleonard | I'm hardly ever 3m away from ANY Koha developer! It's a nice change |
| 08:59 | skk | can u tell me the query i can even run it from phpmyadmin |
| 08:59 | by copy pasting | |
| 09:07 | Oak | in setting subfield constraints, in "hidden", what does -4 means? manual says: OPAC !Intranet !Editor !Collapsed whereas "! means 'not visible' or in the case of Collapsed 'not Collapsed'" |
| 09:11 | should not ! mean not hidden? and -4 should mean hidden in OPAC, not hidden in Intranet, not hidden in Editor, and Not collapsed? | |
| 09:11 | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]/en/catadmin.html | |
| 09:11 | Judit | yes |
| 09:12 | Oak | why does it say "! means 'not visible' or in the case of Collapsed 'not Collapsed'" |
| 09:12 | Judit | what do you see |
| 09:12 | Oak | when I set -4, i see "hidden" in "Constraints" column, but the field is visible in admin area. |
| 09:13 | Judit | yes |
| 09:13 | not hidden in Intranet, | |
| 09:13 | not hidden ergo visible in admin | |
| 09:13 | Oak | cool, then the wording in manual that says: "! means 'not visible' or in the case of Collapsed 'not Collapsed'" should be changed to ""! means 'not hidden' or in the case of Collapsed 'not Collapsed'" |
| 09:14 | Judit | ehm |
| 09:14 | hang on | |
| 09:14 | no | |
| 09:15 | ! means not | |
| 09:15 | not in opac n | |
| 09:15 | not visible | |
| 09:15 | Oak | but the setting name is "hidden" |
| 09:15 | Judit | well |
| 09:16 | yes! | |
| 09:16 | Oak | so if we put ! it read ! hidden in whatever we put it after. |
| 09:16 | Judit | i know what you mean |
| 09:16 | it the the state of hidden | |
| 09:16 | hidden has these states: like the numbers : −9 to 9 | |
| 09:17 | Oak | yes |
| 09:17 | Judit | the word 'hidden' is confusing |
| 09:17 | yes | |
| 09:17 | Oak | and if we put ! in front it mean "not" hidden |
| 09:17 | not "not visible" | |
| 09:18 | Judit | no, that means it is not visible which is a state of "hidden" |
| 09:18 | Oak | wait. listen. |
| 09:18 | the field name is "hidden" right. | |
| 09:18 | Judit | yes |
| 09:19 | Oak | the value "0 " says the manual: 0 => OPAC Intranet Editor !Collapsed |
| 09:19 | it reads to me as: | |
| 09:19 | hidden: yes hidden in OPAC, yes hidden in Intranet, yes hidden in Editor, but NOT collapsed. | |
| 09:20 | Judit | i know what you mean, it is very confusing |
| 09:20 | Oak | hmm |
| 09:20 | Judit | but i would change the hidden word |
| 09:20 | the problem is caused by the word not by the ! | |
| 09:20 | Oak | hmm |
| 09:20 | what should be the word? | |
| 09:21 | in place of hidden? | |
| 09:21 | Judit | i have no idea |
| 09:21 | Oak | hm |
| 09:21 | Judit | status? visibility? |
| 09:21 | Oak | visibility sounds right. |
| 09:21 | Judit | yeah |
| 09:21 | Oak | let me read the rules with that in mind |
| 09:21 | Judit | visibility: 0 |
| 09:21 | OPAC Intranet Editor !Collapsed | |
| 09:22 | visible in opac, visible in intranet visible in editor not colapsed | |
| 09:22 | Oak | that would read as: visible in OPAC, visible in Intranet, visible in Editr, and... |
| 09:22 | oh yes you wrote same | |
| 09:23 | let me see how it works then | |
| 09:23 | skk | can some one help! one of my bound volumes all records are not visible in OPAC/kohaadmin. I have opened the database in phpmyAdmin and have browsed items where i could locate that record. Now i need a small help what change i have to do here so ththat this record is visible in OPAC/kohaadmin with all its bound volume detatails. |
| 09:24 | Judit | in the sql: you have a zebraqueue table |
| 09:24 | skk | yes |
| 09:24 | Judit | do you have 0 or 1 next to the biblio |
| 09:24 | or is it the biblio you cannot see, or theitem? | |
| 09:25 | skk | both biblio and items attached to a biblio |
| 09:25 | Judit | ok |
| 09:25 | chechk the zebraqueue | |
| 09:25 | skk | i am there |
| 09:26 | Judit | did you find the biblionumber you are missing from opac? |
| 09:26 | skk | yes |
| 09:26 | i see in zebraque at few times there | |
| 09:27 | Judit | i dont remember the column name, maybe it is called done |
| 09:27 | do yousee 0 or 1 | |
| 09:27 | ? | |
| 09:27 | skk | yes i can see a column as done where it is 1 |
| 09:28 | Judit | and you have already rebuilt zebra, right |
| 09:28 | i remmeber you from this mornig | |
| 09:28 | skk | yes i am sitting since morning but no answer yet |
| 09:29 | zebra is rebuilt thousand times | |
| 09:29 | Judit | do you see some of your records |
| 09:29 | or non at all | |
| 09:29 | in opac | |
| 09:30 | skk | only for that biblio and items related to that biblio are not visible in either opac or in kohaadmin but if i take a report with barcode and title all those barcodes and titles are listed |
| 09:30 | Judit | yeah, still zebra |
| 09:31 | reports are just sql queries, but in search that is zebra | |
| 09:31 | so you are missing only one biblio? | |
| 09:31 | or several | |
| 09:31 | Oak | Judit, I want 021 c to be not visible in OPAC, visible in intranet, visible in editor, and not collapsed, I choose 4. but the c field disappears from admin area cataloging page. but if i put -4, it appears. |
| 09:31 | skk | at the moment looks to be only one where it has around 700 items attached to a biblio. its a bould volumes record |
| 09:32 | Oak | sorry, typo. 020 c |
| 09:32 | first deal with skk 's issue | |
| 09:32 | Judit | gee, Oak you dont know how much i hate marc:D let me have a look |
| 09:33 | oleonard | cait: Bug 7789 |
| 09:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7789 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Add translations of item type and authorized value descriptions |
| 09:34 | cait | :) |
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| 09:35 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 09:35 | Adrien submitted resolving patch to already signed-off Bug 7737 | |
| 09:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7737 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Signed Off , Use of date filters on bookseller pages |
| 09:35 | mveron | Should this bug be signed off again? |
| 09:36 | oleonard | Usually no, if the resubmission is to resolved conflicts only it does not require another signoff |
| 09:36 | Judit | skk you have 1 biblio with 700 items attached to it? |
| 09:37 | skk | yes |
| 09:37 | * oleonard | is happy to submit a patch for Bug 6209 |
| 09:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Standardize on one javascript library for client-side form validation |
| 09:37 | * oleonard | hopes it is the first of many |
| 09:38 | cait | :) |
| 09:40 | Judit | oak, you re right |
| 09:40 | Oak | so what's going on then? |
| 09:40 | Judit | i choose 4, but then it is not viisble in the edit |
| 09:41 | well, time to ask someone who is good in it | |
| 09:41 | Oak | then try -4 and it will appear |
| 09:41 | Judit | yeah |
| 09:41 | i did | |
| 09:41 | Oak | but in "Constraints" column it says "hidden" right? |
| 09:41 | Judit | it does |
| 09:41 | Oak | weird is it not? |
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| 09:42 | Judit | it says hidden in both cases: 4 and -4 |
| 09:42 | Oak | yes yes |
| 09:42 | mbalmer | good morning. |
| 09:42 | Oak | right |
| 09:43 | Judit | well i guess this is one of the resons why i dont like marc |
| 09:43 | Oak | but it should not |
| 09:43 | Judit | id ont know, what hidden in Constraints refers to |
| 09:43 | cait | it's in the help file |
| 09:44 | click on the ? on the page | |
| 09:44 | skk | when i had ran rebuild_zebra here is the error it gave "Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)" |
| 09:44 | Judit | skk, i am sorry but my knowledge ends here |
| 09:45 | Oak | cait, when editing subfields, there is no ? in there |
| 09:45 | cait | no, but there is one on the top left of each page |
| 09:45 | offering context help :) | |
| 09:46 | Oak | top-right... yes |
| 09:46 | looking at it now | |
| 09:46 | Judit | the same as themanual |
| 09:46 | Oak | yup. same as manual. |
| 09:46 | mbalmer | SIP is so much easier to handle on the client side when the server does not close the connecton unexpectedly... |
| 09:49 | alex_a1 | skk: your record has lot of items ? |
| 09:50 | Judit | 700 items |
| 09:50 | he has | |
| 09:50 | for one bibli | |
| 09:50 | alex_a | ouch |
| 09:50 | Judit | o |
| 09:50 | yeah | |
| 09:50 | skk | is that the issue then |
| 09:51 | alex_a | skk: this could happen when the biblionumber (field 001) has been saved at the end of marcxml iirc |
| 09:51 | can you check that ? | |
| 09:52 | Judit | i need to go |
| 09:52 | skk | i am in biblioitem and i am in marcxml in phpmyadmin <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <record xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim http://www.loc.gov/standards/m[…]ma/MARC21slim.xsd" xmlns="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim"> <leader>109323casa22087971 45000</leader |
| 09:52 | Judit | if you figured out something oak, let me know |
| 09:52 | Oak | okay Judit |
| 09:53 | Judit | good night |
| 09:53 | Oak | good night :) |
| 09:53 | skk | <controlfield tag="001">11137031</controlfield> this field u mean is it |
| 09:53 | alex_a | skk: can you pastbin the marcxml ? |
| 09:53 | skk | it is with start in marcxml |
| 09:53 | Oak | so cait, let me know when you are free to be annoyed. |
| 09:55 | alex_a | skk: do you get errors with others record (all?) or only this one ? |
| 09:56 | skk | only this record |
| 09:57 | i have pasted in pastebin | |
| 09:57 | can u check | |
| 09:57 | alex_a | ? |
| 09:57 | where ? | |
| 09:58 | skk | here there is a PasteBin option when i click that i pasted my marcxml there what else i need to do for u to see it |
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| 10:06 | skk | alex_a are u there |
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| 11:05 | paul_p | who can rewind the clock, so it shows "9AM" instead of "12AM" ? |
| 11:05 | Oak | is it a wall clock? |
| 11:06 | you won't even need a chair i think :) | |
| 11:06 | Amit_Gupta | heya paul_p |
| 11:07 | paul_p: C4::Search::SimpleSearch | |
| 11:07 | can you please explain me what this subroutine do? | |
| 11:09 | jcamins_away | Amit_Gupta: it searches Zebra. |
| 11:13 | jcamins | paul_p: I changed that line on bug 7444 because sekjal's original patch just did what you requested, and it had side effects. |
| 11:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7444 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , Use T::T date plugin to display dates omnibus |
| 11:13 | jcamins | It broke the display in a bunch of places. |
| 11:13 | I think it's better to not cause regressions. | |
| 11:13 | oleonard | Hi jcamins |
| 11:13 | jcamins | Good morning. |
| 11:27 | cait | lunch break at the hackfest - today we have pizza :) |
| 11:28 | Oak | and ketchup |
| 11:31 | slef | I'm perplexed by bug 7365 and mbalmer signing off his own work |
| 11:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7365 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, marc, Signed Off , Koha uses MySQL |
| 11:32 | slef | has that approach been discussed on koha-devel? Maybe I missed it. |
| 11:33 | jcamins | slef: no. |
| 11:36 | mbalmer and Stephen Delauney decided that this was a better method than actually fixing the problems in the Koha codebase. | |
| 11:36 | mbalmer | slef, we are a team of three folks working on that |
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| 11:37 | jcamins | And someone else. |
| 11:37 | wahanui | someone else is going to have to look at acquisitions |
| 11:37 | mbalmer | so technically, I did not signoff my own work. |
| 11:37 | jcamins | Sorry, I didn't realize that there was a third person. |
| 11:39 | mbalmer | actually the design was discussed in a group of six people. |
| 11:45 | slef | mbalmer: that's nice. What about giving the other 173 developers a chance? |
| 11:45 | mbalmer | sure, we discuss the issue to death or accept that there is now a path to move forward with PostgreSQL support. |
| 11:45 | we can, even... | |
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| 11:50 | jcamins | Well, you know my feeling on the matter. I think it's a bad idea, but as long as the code is written in such a way as to be easily removable when it becomes unmaintainable, I don't much care. |
| 11:52 | Though I think a sign-off from someone else would be a good idea. | |
| 11:52 | * jcamins | leaves for the new apartment. |
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| 12:17 | slef | mbalmer: I'm not asking you to "discuss the issue to death". I'm asking for it to be discussed AT ALL and not just have 6 devs unilaterally overturn what I thought was previously agreed. |
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| 12:39 | sekjal | morning, #koha |
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| 12:53 | marcelr | hi sekjal |
| 12:53 | sekjal | hi, marcelr! |
| 12:53 | oleonard | I agree, re: another signoff for the new DB stuff |
| 12:53 | mbalmer | slef, it was agreed to add PostgreSQL support. |
| 12:54 | marcelr | slef: i think you are still right; my only exception still would be a trivial very trivail self-signed patch for something very very tiny |
| 12:54 | mbalmer | it is _not_ self signed-off. stephane did the diff, and tested it. I tested on a separate machine and signed it off. |
| 12:54 | marcelr | mbalmer: if it is not trivial, someone else must sign |
| 12:55 | mbalmer | I _am_ someone else than stephan. |
| 12:55 | marcelr | if someone tested, let him sign off |
| 12:55 | in qa you would hear that too | |
| 12:55 | mbalmer | that is what we did. |
| 12:55 | marcelr | but this discussion seems to show otherwise? |
| 12:56 | mbalmer | stephan did prepare the diff, I signed off. Is it hard to see that stephane and I are not the same person. |
| 12:56 | reiveune | I am stephane |
| 12:56 | marcelr | well it may be just bureaucratic but the patch must show that |
| 12:56 | hi reiveune | |
| 12:57 | reiveune | hi |
| 12:57 | ... the patch show uit | |
| 12:57 | line 7 : Signed-off-by: Marc Balmer <marcmsys.ch> |
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| 12:58 | marcelr | and who is the author? |
| 12:58 | wahanui | i guess the author is linked to authorities by default |
| 12:58 | oleonard | wahanui, forget the author |
| 12:58 | wahanui | oleonard: I forgot author |
| 12:58 | reiveune | marcelr: it's me |
| 12:58 | marcelr | what does the patch say? |
| 12:58 | reiveune | read the diff |
| 12:59 | and you'll see | |
| 12:59 | :) | |
| 12:59 | marcelr | :-) |
| 12:59 | reiveune | (my english is too bad to explain it easyly) |
| 12:59 | mbalmer | btw, is code written in other languages than Perl accepted? |
| 13:01 | sekjal | mbalmer: if you count Javascript or XSLT as a language, then yes |
| 13:01 | mbalmer | and other than that? |
| 13:01 | sekjal | but I'm pretty sure we're not going to add other scripting languages like PHP or Python |
| 13:01 | slef | stephane's patch looked similar to mbalmer's earlier patch |
| 13:02 | sekjal | mbalmer: do you have one in mind? |
| 13:02 | mbalmer | yes, I was wonderling about libraries is C that come with Lua bindings. |
| 13:02 | slef | mbalmer: I agree with adding postgresql support, but I am not sure a bespoke code-generator is sustainable. |
| 13:02 | mbalmer | but I am just asking. |
| 13:03 | slef, it is the very minimum that needs be done. | |
| 13:04 | slef | mbalmer: might be minimum today, but almost definitely not the minimum in the long-term. |
| 13:06 | mbalmer | yes, but running on PostgreSQL is not a long-term goal either. So we need a solution that works without changing to much stuff. That does not mean that it will stay that way forever. Maybe one day we get a better database layer that obsoletes all this. |
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| 13:14 | paul_p | slef & mbalmer : I jump in the discussion... |
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| 13:52 | sekjal | paul_p: confirmation on the string freeze procedures. After this week, no new feature of any size is going to be accepted for 3.8 |
| 13:52 | are features awaiting QA still game? how about waiting Signoff? | |
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| 13:59 | marcelr | sekjal: i asked the same on the list some time ago |
| 14:00 | libsysguy | sekjal did you see the new notes on 5549 |
| 14:01 | is that something that we need to look into or something that we should just consider in follow up | |
| 14:01 | sekjal | libsysguy: I'd like to know why their renewals fail and everyone else's work |
| 14:02 | is it a setting or a setup thing? | |
| 14:02 | libsysguy | I don't suppose we could have access to that sand box |
| 14:02 | sekjal | as for hardduedate-time and suspension in days, those can be followups |
| 14:02 | suspension in days works | |
| 14:02 | libsysguy | thats the only way I can really thing of to see the error |
| 14:02 | sekjal | but only for hourly loans that are days late |
| 14:02 | wizzyrea | libsysguy: I bet it's one of the biblibre one |
| 14:02 | public ones | |
| 14:02 | sekjal | I should probably fix that |
| 14:03 | wizzyrea | sandboxes? |
| 14:03 | wahanui | sandboxes are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes |
| 14:04 | libsysguy | hmm interesting concept |
| 14:09 | sekjal | libsysguy: commented on 5549 |
| 14:10 | libsysguy | i just read that |
| 14:10 | well said imo :) | |
| 14:11 | sekjal | I like the new code |
| 14:11 | using DateTime and DateTime::Duration makes sense to me | |
| 14:11 | libsysguy | me too |
| 14:11 | sekjal | once I learned some of the basics, I was able to do the suspension in days reimplementation, and it was pretty straight forward |
| 14:11 | libsysguy | so does this mean that all C4::Dates will need to be changed over eventually |
| 14:12 | sekjal | I believe so, yes |
| 14:12 | libsysguy | sweet |
| 14:12 | which will also allow more of a conversion to the Koha namespace | |
| 14:12 | sekjal | I'd also like to increase support for this, once we've beaten down the trail a bit more, for loans in minutes |
| 14:13 | in case someone wants to do an hour and a half loan | |
| 14:13 | libsysguy | I agree, i plan to do quite a few follow up patches/enhancements with this |
| 14:13 | sekjal | getting the library calendars to contain opening/closing hours is a biggie |
| 14:14 | as laid out in the original spec | |
| 14:14 | libsysguy | yeah there is a lot that got left out of that original spec |
| 14:15 | which is dissappointing | |
| 14:19 | sekjal | very |
| 14:19 | but, it's not like we're done here... all these things can be implemented | |
| 14:20 | Holds Rewrite, too | |
| 14:20 | libsysguy | notifications rewrite.... |
| 14:20 | im still gunning for that one | |
| 14:20 | wizzyrea | libsysguy: did you see bug 7001 |
| 14:20 | libsysguy | my script can't hold out forever |
| 14:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , User Configurable Slips |
| 14:20 | sekjal | it's a lot better after 7001 |
| 14:20 | wizzyrea | you'll want to build on top of that instead of what's already there |
| 14:21 | sekjal | ... how bad would it be to just use Template Toolkit for templating the notices? |
| 14:21 | I mean, sure there is plenty to learn | |
| 14:21 | and we'd need to filter it for security | |
| 14:21 | but, really, is it any harder to learn than anything else? | |
| 14:21 | libsysguy | wizzyrea I hadn't seen that |
| 14:21 | sekjal drag and drop fields :) | |
| 14:21 | wizzyrea | if you could do it similarly to what it does now - click the thing, click >> |
| 14:21 | to add it | |
| 14:22 | it would be simple | |
| 14:22 | for people | |
| 14:22 | sekjal: also, that sounds kind of like a appinventor or scratch-type notice generation engine thinger | |
| 14:22 | well in my mind anyway | |
| 14:22 | where you drag and drop chunks of stuff | |
| 14:22 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 14:23 | sekjal | at the very least, we need loops |
| 14:23 | would be nice to have if/then, but I haven't seem a demand for it yet | |
| 14:24 | wizzyrea | I don't think the way it works now is so limiting. |
| 14:24 | I mean, it's a little limiting. | |
| 14:25 | sekjal | a solid T:T editor, though, would allow us to actually edit the Koha templates themselves... |
| 14:25 | jcamins_away | Four of seven faceplates installed. |
| 14:26 | sekjal | though the first blocker to that is getting a standardized set of params for each page |
| 14:26 | jcamins_away | The other three are rather problematic. |
| 14:26 | sekjal | and not changing that between major versions |
| 14:26 | wizzyrea | uh oh |
| 14:26 | jcamins_away | But this is a start. |
| 14:27 | I may end up needing to reterminate for two, alas. Stupid studs. | |
| 14:28 | sekjal | okay, all, I've got to check out of my hotel, then cruise the exhibit hall |
| 14:30 | wizzyrea | you might remind them of this problem: http://valparaiso.pioneer.koha[…]&sortfield=author |
| 14:31 | at least it doesn't show the server internals anymore. | |
| 14:31 | that's a step up. | |
| 14:31 | sekjal | indeed |
| 14:31 | only took what, 6 months? | |
| 14:31 | wizzyrea | something like that, it's been that way since go-live |
| 14:33 | sekjal | k, gtg |
| 14:33 | wizzyrea | gl, have fun |
| 14:33 | jcamins_away | I don't want to reterminate. :( |
| 14:33 | sekjal | hopefully my train home tonight will have WiFi |
| 14:33 | cheers, #koha | |
| 14:33 | libsysguy | I don't always reterminate....but when I do the terminator is near a stud |
| 14:39 | * wizzyrea | considers if this is a real statement or something to do with the movie. |
| 14:44 | cait | libsysguy: i think you could get access to that sandbox - at least to the interface |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | cait - do you know which one they are using? |
| 14:44 | (could you ask) :) <3 pretty please | |
| 14:47 | cait | oh yes |
| 14:47 | sorry | |
| 14:47 | was just reading back; I will ask paul | |
| 14:47 | sec | |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea | no worries :) |
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| 14:49 | libsysguy | cait was was actually thinking more along the lines of the log output |
| 14:54 | cait | not sure you need tht |
| 14:54 | and wizzyrea will help you ;) | |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea: it's textbox 6 | |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea: from looking at the screens I suspect it could be using record level itypes - could you check? | |
| 14:54 | perhaps if that makes a difference? | |
| 14:55 | she is going to show me an example now; I am going to write it down | |
| 14:56 | slef | @quote add <libsysguy> I don't always reterminate....but when I do the terminator is near a stud // * wizzyrea considers if this is a real statement or something to do with the movie. |
| 14:56 | huginn | slef: The operation succeeded. Quote #193 added. |
| 14:56 | slef | @quote random |
| 14:56 | huginn | slef: Quote #189: "libsysguy: one need not ask why where there are librarians involved :P" (added by wizzyrea at 03:30 PM, February 28, 2012) |
| 14:57 | slef | wow, love that coincidence |
| 14:59 | mtj | is it just me, or are Paul's 'coding guidlines' examples identical, here... |
| 14:59 | http://koha-community.org/koha[…]letter-4-2012-02/ | |
| 14:59 | aah, whitespace :p | |
| 15:05 | libsysguy | back -- in regards to that quote I was actaully poking fun at jcamins |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | hm says 6 is bug 7291? |
| 15:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7291 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , claims management improvement |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | but, that one *is* unimarc |
| 15:09 | cait | yeah |
| 15:09 | they are testing on unimarc :) | |
| 15:09 | are you scared now? | |
| 15:09 | :) | |
| 15:09 | so | |
| 15:09 | wizzyrea | well no. |
| 15:09 | cait | ok |
| 15:09 | it seems | |
| 15:09 | renewalperiodbase is broken generally | |
| 15:09 | what we did was | |
| 15:09 | wizzyrea | libsysguy |
| 15:09 | wahanui | i think libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 15:09 | cait | set renewalperiodbase to renew from the old due date |
| 15:09 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 15:09 | cait | so on renewal it should do old due date + loan period |
| 15:09 | and it doesn't work | |
| 15:09 | wizzyrea | OH |
| 15:10 | cait | neither on nr 6 |
| 15:10 | wizzyrea | it's a syspref! |
| 15:10 | cait | nor on one wihtout hourly loans |
| 15:10 | but it's abad | |
| 15:10 | it's bad | |
| 15:10 | and we need to fix it | |
| 15:10 | wizzyrea | yes |
| 15:10 | yes it is | |
| 15:10 | cait | they are opening a bug |
| 15:10 | wizzyrea | so renewals are broken |
| 15:10 | that's not-good | |
| 15:10 | cait | wizzyrea: do you have a sec to check in marc21? |
| 15:10 | wizzyrea | sure |
| 15:10 | cait | that would be great |
| 15:10 | wizzyrea | i'm checking renewal? |
| 15:10 | cait | yes |
| 15:10 | wizzyrea | on master? |
| 15:10 | check. on it. | |
| 15:10 | cait | with different settings for renewalperiodbase |
| 15:10 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 15:11 | cait | great :) |
| 15:11 | it might be related to item-level itypes... or even unimarc... but we should get that fixed | |
| 15:11 | textbox 3 I think is without hourly loans | |
| 15:13 | sandbox... | |
| 15:14 | wizzyrea | so what is the bug? |
| 15:15 | cait | 7803 |
| 15:16 | or do you mean what is not working about it? | |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | right - how exactly is it broken |
| 15:17 | or I could just read the bug | |
| 15:17 | bug 7802 | |
| 15:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7802 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , A MySQLism is used to get the current date. |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | bug 7803 |
| 15:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7803 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Renewal : syspref RenewalPeriodBase "old due date of the checkout" doesn't work |
| 15:21 | cait | if you set it to renew from the old due date |
| 15:21 | it should do : due date + loan period | |
| 15:21 | so even if you checked out something today | |
| 15:21 | it will push the date back another loan period | |
| 15:21 | but this seems not to be working any longer | |
| 15:21 | it stays on the same date | |
| 15:24 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7154 follow-up DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4ee6360645c28c1c4> / Bug 7154: Modification in borrower attributes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4cea324fc16b6ec90> / bug 7264: follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d8cb780f13febadb9 |
| 15:24 | * wizzyrea | tests again |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | ok, mine updated |
| 15:26 | was originally due | |
| 15:26 | 3/23/2012 | |
| 15:26 | wahanui | 6.48284207796698e-05 |
| 15:26 | mbalmer | who knows tha C4:Aquisition.pm module and could test a patch? |
| 15:27 | wizzyrea | loan period is one day |
| 15:27 | renewed with renewalbase set to old due date | |
| 15:27 | new due date is 3/24/2012 | |
| 15:27 | cait | yeah |
| 15:28 | she showed me | |
| 15:28 | it IS broken on that database | |
| 15:28 | but where is the difference? | |
| 15:28 | :( | |
| 15:28 | it works for me too | |
| 15:28 | I just testd with biblio level itypes too | |
| 15:28 | wizzyrea | no different? |
| 15:29 | usedaysmode? | |
| 15:29 | maybe it has to do with holidays | |
| 15:29 | or weekends | |
| 15:29 | wahanui | weekends are very silent |
| 15:30 | wizzyrea | let me make sure i'm using the very latest master |
| 15:30 | * wizzyrea | was not |
| 15:30 | wizzyrea | i mean, only 10 hours out of date or so |
| 15:30 | but stille | |
| 15:31 | oh bless writeoffall | |
| 15:32 | OH! | |
| 15:32 | I did have it not work | |
| 15:32 | only on the very latest master | |
| 15:32 | something in the last day broke it | |
| 15:32 | cait | |
| 15:32 | cait | here |
| 15:32 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #674 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 15:33 | wizzyrea | I just replicated the problem |
| 15:33 | cait | !!! |
| 15:33 | really? | |
| 15:33 | wizzyrea | yes |
| 15:33 | cait | I can't :( |
| 15:33 | wizzyrea | I last pulled sometime yesterday afternoon |
| 15:33 | cait | so it must be very very recent? |
| 15:33 | wizzyrea | and just did a checkout, yea |
| 15:33 | 1s, I can show what was pulled | |
| 15:34 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "Already on 'master' remote: Co" (32 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/316 |
| 15:35 | cait | that update was weird |
| 15:37 | ok | |
| 15:37 | I am latest latest master now | |
| 15:37 | which settings were broken for you? | |
| 15:38 | wizzyrea | try them both |
| 15:38 | wait. | |
| 15:38 | I wonder if this is a misunderstanding | |
| 15:38 | if you renew an item | |
| 15:38 | on the same day | |
| 15:38 | with it set to "the current date" | |
| 15:38 | cait | nothing happens |
| 15:39 | wizzyrea | and if you renew an item |
| 15:39 | on the same day | |
| 15:39 | cait | because today + loan period is still the same loan period it was checked out with |
| 15:39 | wizzyrea | with it set to the old due date, it should hop forward |
| 15:39 | no. | |
| 15:39 | cait | that was what I thought |
| 15:40 | wizzyrea | old due date is *still the same day* |
| 15:40 | * wizzyrea | has to ponder |
| 15:40 | cait | draw it |
| 15:40 | helped me :P | |
| 15:40 | wizzyrea | brain's in knots |
| 15:40 | cait | I think: old due date - so tomorrow + 1 is ... day after tomorrow |
| 15:40 | current date today... +1 is still tomorrow | |
| 15:41 | make sense? | |
| 15:41 | but I can't break it | |
| 15:41 | wizzyrea | right, ok |
| 15:41 | I can't break it either - because you're right | |
| 15:42 | cait | :( |
| 15:42 | wizzyrea | checked out today + 1 day = 3/24 |
| 15:42 | cait | that's bad |
| 15:42 | I will ask paul | |
| 15:42 | perhaps there is something in the logs | |
| 15:42 | oleonard | Okay... we broke display of holdings in the OPAC :( |
| 15:42 | cait | because I see it's wrong for her |
| 15:42 | wizzyrea | oh no! |
| 15:42 | cait | a day full of good news! ;) |
| 15:43 | wizzyrea | something in her rules? |
| 15:43 | fine in days? | |
| 15:44 | no, that wouldn't have anything to do with it. | |
| 15:44 | what do her rules look like? | |
| 15:45 | slef | @query svc |
| 15:45 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , svc API should allow creation and deletion of items |
| 15:45 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7213 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , Document /svc/ HTTP API and provide example command-line client | |
| 15:52 | oleonard | Attention everyone, there was an error in something recently pushed |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | yea? |
| 15:52 | wahanui | yea is probably better to not get attached to a specific koha version >.> |
| 15:52 | oleonard | paul_p will push a follow-up which will correct updatedatabase.pl |
| 15:52 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: they put the box directly over a stud so a coupler doesn't fit. |
| 15:53 | oleonard | We'll have to manually set back our KohaVersion preference after it is pushed so the database can catch up |
| 15:53 | wizzyrea | oki |
| 15:53 | just say when the fix is pushed | |
| 15:54 | brr. I'm cold. | |
| 15:55 | @wunder 66049 | |
| 15:55 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Near Free State High, Lawrence, Kansas is 13.7°C (10:54 AM CDT on March 22, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
| 15:55 | wizzyrea | bit chilly. |
| 15:56 | omg, love bug 7804 | |
| 15:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7804 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Add Koha Plugin System |
| 15:56 | wizzyrea | love love love |
| 15:56 | paul_p | follow-up for bug 7310 pushed |
| 15:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7310 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) |
| 15:56 | wizzyrea | ty paul |
| 16:00 | oleonard | And database fix pushed too |
| 16:00 | wizzyrea | so all we do |
| 16:00 | is set it back to... 33? | |
| 16:00 | or 32? | |
| 16:01 | oleonard | 31 at least I think |
| 16:01 | slef | "Consequently, ModBiblio() is not to be used to try to modify item records." That's nice, perldoc. Please can someone remind me what is? |
| 16:01 | wizzyrea | moditem? |
| 16:02 | slef | looks like ModItemFromMarc |
| 16:02 | so partial credit, wizzyrea ;) | |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | :) |
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| 16:02 | wizzyrea | oleonard what's the symptom of the problem? |
| 16:03 | oleonard | The symptom I noticed: display of holdings disappeared from opac-detail.pl |
| 16:04 | wizzyrea, did you notice your KohaVersion pref had a strange number? | |
| 16:04 | slef | hrmph, ModItemFromMarc wants itemnumber. So where do I get that from? |
| 16:04 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7310 follow-up : typo fix lt instead of < in DB version comparison <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ea4fe2e0b7a13df2a> / Bug 7769 - members/pay.pl: $template scoping for plack <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]36d8450a023b78faf> / Bug 5841: Routing slip not displaying publication date <http://git.koha-community.o |
| 16:05 | slef | @marc 952 |
| 16:05 | wahanui | The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
| 16:05 | huginn | slef: unknown tag 952 |
| 16:05 | slef | yay, 952$9 |
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| 16:08 | mbalmer | bug 7806 |
| 16:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7806 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Illegal dates are used to signal non existing dates. |
| 16:10 | * slef | sighs as svc/bib doesn't send 952 tags |
| 16:10 | kicks it about a bit | |
| 16:11 | mbalmer | DBQ changed to use a more obvious example, while there we changed SHOW COLUMNS FROM to use $dbh->column_info. |
| 16:17 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #674: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/674/ |
| 16:17 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 7778: fixes creation of a new server | |
| 16:17 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7746: "No Public Lists." not translatable. | |
| 16:17 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7738: "Display more constraints' in subfield configuraiton is not properly translatable | |
| 16:17 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 7732: Restoring "More lists" in the Add-to combo of OPAC Search Results | |
| 16:17 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 5180: FIX autocomplete on overdues report | |
| 16:17 | * oleonard: Bug 5482 - Translation problem in guided reports - Item field names | |
| 16:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7778 blocker, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Not possible to add new z39.50 servers |
| 16:17 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5482: Update colums.def file |
| 16:17 | * oleonard: Bug 5482 [Follow up] Translation problem in guided reports - Item field names | |
| 16:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7746 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , In staff 'No public lists.' is not translatable |
| 16:17 | jenkins_koha | * paul.poulain: Bug 7714 translating letters in fr-FR to french |
| 16:17 | * srdjan: bug_7264: [SIGNED-OFF] Branch popup on OPAC detail.Added opac_info field to branches table. | |
| 16:17 | * paul.poulain: bug 7264: follow-up DBRev number | |
| 16:17 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 7154: Modification in borrower attributes | |
| 16:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7738 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, "Display more constraints" in subfield configuraton is not properly translatable |
| 16:17 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7732 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Restoring "More lists" in the Add-to combo of OPAC Search Results | |
| 16:17 | jenkins_koha | * paul.poulain: Bug 7154 follow-up DBRev |
| 16:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5180 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Autocomplete broken on overdues report |
| 16:17 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5482 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Translation problem in guided reports - Item field names | |
| 16:17 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7714 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , sample_notices.sql translated to french | |
| 16:17 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7264 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Display information about library on OPAC detail | |
| 16:17 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7154 enhancement, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Group borrower attributes and link between patron category and attribute | |
| 16:18 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #675 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:18 | libsysguy left #koha | |
| 16:22 | paul_p | i'm about to push bug 5549 ;-) |
| 16:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Passed QA , Hourly Loans |
| 16:22 | jcamins_away | paul_p: you waited until *after* libsysguy left? That's just cruel! |
| 16:23 | * slef | cheers as he squashes the bug |
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| 16:24 | cait | lol |
| 16:24 | woohoo | |
| 16:24 | :) | |
| 16:24 | I belive paul wants to qa 7760 next | |
| 16:24 | right, paul_p? :) | |
| 16:24 | jcamins_away | bug 7760 |
| 16:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7760 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton |
| 16:25 | paul_p | cait = if you promize to vote "yes" to the icon-ed mainpage :D :D |
| 16:25 | cait | I can't |
| 16:25 | I don't like any icons | |
| 16:25 | it's not only those icons - I am against any icons | |
| 16:25 | :) | |
| 16:25 | but I can stay silent... maybe | |
| 16:26 | I still think doing a small change with some colors and things will be enough | |
| 16:26 | * slef | sulks as the more complex test fails |
| 16:26 | cait | everything else is breaking too much with the existing layout |
| 16:26 | even if it's shiny | |
| 16:26 | mbalmer | icons are great if you use touchscreens, think of selfcheckouts e.g. |
| 16:26 | cait | yeah, but not in this context |
| 16:26 | I mean, it#s not about touchscreens here | |
| 16:27 | and big buttons work too | |
| 16:27 | jcamins_away | Okay, I have found a way around reterminating any Cat6a jacks at this time. |
| 16:30 | slef | Terminator 3 |
| 16:31 | wahanui: coding guidelines? | |
| 16:31 | wahanui | coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
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| 16:44 | paul_p | passed QA = "zarro bugs" = heading to QA some more patches ;-) |
| 16:45 | * wizzyrea | checks to see if libsysguy has a phone number on his facebook |
| 16:45 | wizzyrea | oh he does! |
| 16:45 | I'll text him | |
| 16:46 | chris_n | so it appears that self-checkout checks items in under the homebranch of the account used for AutoSelfCheck* |
| 16:46 | which causes problems for multibranch setups | |
| 16:46 | * chris_n | looks toward wizzyrea hoping she has a solution |
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| 16:47 | sean | howdy |
| 16:47 | wizzyrea | hmmm |
| 16:47 | sean | first time on this chat |
| 16:48 | wizzyrea | wait, this is the internal self check |
| 16:48 | sean | and i am stumped on a problem |
| 16:48 | wizzyrea | shoot :) |
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| 16:48 | wizzyrea | chris_n: you mean the web based self check? |
| 16:48 | chris_n | right |
| 16:48 | wizzyrea | libsyguy says ""omg I think I just had a heart attack" |
| 16:49 | sean | i did a manual install of koha, and it's running... apache is running. i can't get the zebrasrv to start. no process |
| 16:49 | chris_n | so all books from other branches end up "in-transit" |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea | oy vey. We don't use that selfcheck - we have RFID ones that use SIP |
| 16:49 | sean | debian squeeze |
| 16:50 | chris_n | sean: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0ec2;hb=HEAD#l224 |
| 16:50 | wizzyrea: :'( | |
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| 16:50 | chris_n | I think it will take a good hacking to fix, unfortunately |
| 16:51 | * chris_n | was hoping somebody else who uses sco might have a solution |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea | sean, we don't really use the zebrasrv |
| 16:51 | there's a cron that does it | |
| 16:51 | ping bag | |
| 16:52 | bag | what's up |
| 16:52 | sean | sigh. i just remembered that i knew that. i'm learning koha on the fly. |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | paul pushed hourly. |
| 16:52 | bag | just getting in and haven't read back :) |
| 16:52 | ahh cool :) | |
| 16:52 | sweetness!!! | |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | sean - no biggie :) |
| 16:53 | bag | On to looking at the plack work by dpavlin |
| 16:53 | wizzyrea | I think libsysguy might have peed a little when I told him. |
| 16:53 | bag | hah libsysguy++ |
| 16:53 | wizzyrea | I know, love that kid. |
| 16:53 | bag | me too |
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| 16:54 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5549: follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7a15aafebb658ee5e> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'catalyst/merged_5549' into new/bug_5549 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fb8b6db61e3a512b5> / Bug 7737: applies date filters on vendor pages <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=commitd |
| 16:54 | kmkale | Namaste #koha, wish you all a very happy Hindu new year!!! |
| 16:55 | wizzyrea | kmkale: what are traditional foods for Hindu new year? |
| 16:56 | kmkale | varies by region. |
| 16:56 | My region its called "Puranpoli" | |
| 16:56 | * gaetan_B | has a suprise for #koha, but you will have to wait until tomorrow... |
| 16:56 | gaetan_B | bye! |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | that looks super yummy |
| 16:58 | oleonard | Time to quit here. See you later #koha |
| 16:59 | kmkale | wizzyrea: you looked it up? |
| 16:59 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
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| 17:00 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 17:00 | libsysguy | *applause* |
| 17:00 | wizzyrea | kmkale: this? http://indianfood.about.com/od[…]s/r/puranpoli.htm |
| 17:00 | good work on hourly, peeps. | |
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| 17:00 | chris_n | so what do ya'll think about having a branch-local category of sysprefs? |
| 17:01 | hourly++ | |
| 17:01 | * wizzyrea | thinks it could be handy |
| 17:01 | * chris_n | assumes that also means hourly fines? |
| 17:01 | kmkale | its eaten with hot "Tup" which is clarified butter |
| 17:01 | wizzyrea | yummmm |
| 17:02 | kmkale | yup |
| 17:03 | chris_n | sounds good |
| 17:03 | sean | in order for zebra functionality to work, does there need to be any type of service running? trying to figure out why i can't get any search results from the webpage. i already ran rebuild |
| 17:03 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #675: SUCCESS in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/675/ |
| 17:03 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 6125: repairs dateaccessioned plugin | |
| 17:03 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5841: Routing slip not displaying publication date | |
| 17:03 | * dpavlin: Bug 7769 - members/pay.pl: $template scoping for plack | |
| 17:03 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7310 follow-up : typo fix lt instead of < in DB version comparison | |
| 17:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6125 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Plugin for date acquired does not work on ACQ framework |
| 17:03 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5841 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Routing slip not displaying publication date | |
| 17:03 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7769 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , members/pay.pl: $template scoping for plack | |
| 17:03 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7310 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) | |
| 17:03 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #676 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 17:04 | kmkale | sean run rebuild_zebra.pl with a cronjob |
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| 17:05 | wizzyrea | searching faq? |
| 17:05 | wahanui | i guess searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 17:05 | wizzyrea | sean, see && |
| 17:05 | ^^* | |
| 17:05 | are you using the packages or a tarball install? | |
| 17:05 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #676: FAILURE in 2 min 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/676/ |
| 17:05 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Allow hourly loans to be indicated in the loan rules | |
| 17:05 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Add a timezone object to C4::Context | |
| 17:05 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Add DateUtils Module | |
| 17:05 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Due Date calculation in issue needs to be HH:MM aware | |
| 17:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Hourly Loans |
| 17:05 | jenkins_koha | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Koha::Calendar allow negative offset to addDate |
| 17:05 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Pass time_zone correctly | |
| 17:05 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Get basic 24 Hr loan working | |
| 17:05 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : GetPendingIssues now returns duedate as a DateTime object | |
| 17:05 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Need a testscript for rolling loans | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Add Tests For Koha::DateUtils | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Add Koha directory to testcritic | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Merge old and new DateUtils tests | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : DateUtils handling odd cases | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Handle datetimes on return | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Only use DateTime for issues table | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : GetPendingIssues now returns DateTime objects | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : overdues display should be hours mins aware | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Cannot use CUR_DATE on date_due column | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Format date with hh:mm in branchoverdues | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : DateUtils add subroutine format_sqldatetime | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549: Formatting duedates in catalogue scripts | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Duedate formatting : reserves and opac | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Format Date in ILSDI::Services to include hhmm | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Add days_between method to Koha::Calendar | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Fix calculation of duedates in fines.pl and advance_notices.pl | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : replace curdate with now in a couple of sql lines | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Let Timestamp do the right thing if passed a DateTime | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Sip scripts should handle dt due dates | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Overdues : Handle some date comparison and display issues | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Add script to convert issue_dates | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Add Extra Perl Dependencies | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Fix a couple of date issues from testing | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Add Returned, checkout out time to Patron Circ History | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Show time due in opac-detail | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Fix typo in renewscript | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Make Koha::Calendar testable | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Koha::Calendar needs to accept scalar add_durations | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Calendar needed a change array_ref to hash_ref | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : move rollingloans.t to db_dependent tests | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Don't confuse the users with an irrelevant time | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Format due dates in opac | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 Fix a couple of comparisons in C4::Circulation | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : circ/returns needs to import DateUtils | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Daily loans should be due at 23:59 | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : returns calling wrong format routine on date | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Fix 'specify due date' | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Koha::Calendar::addDate should not loop on -1 | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : use DateUtils routine for formatting sql date | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : Refactor fines.pl | |
| 17:06 | * colin.campbell: Bug 5549 : CalcFine was corrupting due date | |
| 17:06 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6430 - DB changes needed to support hourly circ | |
| 17:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6430 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED WONTFIX, DB changes needed for Hourly Circulation |
| 17:06 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5549 - Hourly Loans - Fixing a typo |
| 17:06 | * tdavis: Bug 5549 : Fixed bracketing error | |
| 17:06 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5549 - Another typo fix | |
| 17:06 | * tdavis: Bug 5549 : added select option in circ rules for unit | |
| 17:06 | * tdavis: Bug 5549 : fixed typo | |
| 17:06 | * tdavis: Bug 5549 : added dropdown for new rule | |
| 17:06 | * tdavis: Bug 5549 : fixed save in smart-rules | |
| 17:06 | * tdavis: Bug 5549 : fixed clone issue in moremember | |
| 17:06 | * tdavis: Bug 5549 : Fixing the opac-pref | |
| 17:06 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5549 : Fixing link to calendar | |
| 17:06 | * tdavis: Bug 5549 : fixed datetime issue so time is shown in output for circulation.pl and moremember.pl | |
| 17:06 | * tdavis: Bug 5549 : fixed non-cloned date object in Add date for calendar, also removed erounous dumper in moremember.pl that dumped entire issue | |
| 17:06 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5549 : Fixing typo in C4/Circulation.pm | |
| 17:06 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5549 : _FixFineDaysOnReturn was using C4::Dates in calling | |
| 17:06 | * root: Bug 5549 : fixed undefined subroutine format_date in circ/returns.pl by adding full path of C4::Dates::format_date() | |
| 17:06 | * koha.sekjal: Bug 5549 Followup: fix suspension in days | |
| 17:06 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 7737: applies date filters on vendor pages | |
| 17:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7737 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Use of date filters on bookseller pages |
| 17:07 | jenkins_koha | * paul.poulain: bug 5549: follow-up DBRev number |
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| 17:07 | sean | yeah, i checked all the faq stuff. i have the correct env variables and no zebra processes are running. zebra is installed. yet, nothing comes up in the search |
| 17:08 | libsysguy | uh oh |
| 17:08 | chris_n | sean: do 'ps -ef | grep zebra' |
| 17:08 | libsysguy | hourly killed jenkins |
| 17:08 | chris_n | opps |
| 17:08 | should have read first... :P | |
| 17:09 | sean | no zebra processes at all. is there supposed to be one? |
| 17:09 | wizzyrea | jcamins: http://video.about.com/indianf[…]oconut-Fudge-.htm |
| 17:09 | sean | that fudge looks good |
| 17:09 | gmcharlt | sean: zebrasrv, at least |
| 17:09 | kmkale | sean: you must rin zebra server first |
| 17:09 | sean | that's my original problem: i can't get the zebra server to run |
| 17:09 | wizzyrea | sorry sean I think I misunderstood your problem |
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| 17:09 | sean | not even from the command line |
| 17:10 | wizzyrea | I thought you weren't getting *updates* |
| 17:10 | that's my bad sorry >.< | |
| 17:10 | sean | it stops short of giving it a pid, when i run from the command line |
| 17:10 | np :) | |
| 17:10 | kmkale | I run it like this : |
| 17:10 | KOHA_CONF=/home/kk/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml PERL5LIB=/home/kk/kohaclone /home/kk/koha-dev/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start | |
| 17:10 | KOHA_CONF=/home/kk/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml PERL5LIB=/home/kk/kohaclone /home/kk/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z | |
| 17:11 | sekjal | hey, all. got my ducks in a nice row, and can squeeze in most of one more session at CiL before heading home |
| 17:11 | open source trends and migrations | |
| 17:11 | should be fun | |
| 17:11 | kmkale | go sekjal :) |
| 17:12 | sean | kmkale: when i run koha-zebra-ctl.sh like that, nothing happens... just get a prompt again |
| 17:12 | sekjal | given that one of the presenters just migrated to faux-pen source, I figured it might be handy to have another perspective in the room |
| 17:12 | kmkale | yah but the ps aux|grep zebra should show a zebra server running |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | sekjal: who's that |
| 17:12 | wahanui | that is failed qa |
| 17:12 | sean | checking... |
| 17:12 | kmkale | sean have you installed zebraserv ? |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | forget that |
| 17:13 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot that |
| 17:13 | sean | not running |
| 17:13 | kmkale | have you installed the pkg? |
| 17:13 | sekjal | librarian from Crowell Public in CA |
| 17:13 | sean | i'm pretty sure i installed it... what's the package name? |
| 17:13 | sekjal | (california, not canada) |
| 17:13 | bag | @wunder 93109 |
| 17:13 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 15.9°C (10:13 AM PDT on March 22, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:14 | kmkale | ii idzebra-2.0 2.0.44-3 IDZebra metapackage (the works) |
| 17:14 | sean | indexdata, right? |
| 17:14 | maximep | @wunder cyqb |
| 17:14 | huginn | maximep: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is 15.0°C (1:00 PM EDT on March 22, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:15 | maximep | o_O |
| 17:15 | sean | kmkale: definitely installed that |
| 17:15 | kmkale | if yes then check the location of where zebrasrv lives mine is at ZEBRASRV=/usr/bin/zebrasrv |
| 17:15 | sean | checking... |
| 17:15 | kmkale | and check if its correct in koha-zebra-ctl.sh |
| 17:16 | paul_p | noone should worry of jenkins build failed, it's because of a missing package rangi will probably add very soon (DateTime/Format/DateParse.pm) |
| 17:17 | sekjal | paul_p: ah, I had installed that earlier while testing something I later scraped... that's why it slipped through on my machine |
| 17:17 | sean | kmkale: hell, the shell file says ZEBRASRV=/zebrasrv. doh |
| 17:17 | kmkale | hah thats your problem right there :) |
| 17:17 | * slef | is unreasonably happy with bug 7729 |
| 17:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , svc API should allow modification of items |
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| 17:18 | Morthland | Howdy, |
| 17:18 | slef | hi Morthland |
| 17:19 | Morthland | My kohaadmin wont let me add items to batches anymore |
| 17:19 | It is set to single-branch mode | |
| 17:19 | I'm sure I changed some setting | |
| 17:19 | how do I fix? | |
| 17:19 | wizzyrea | add items to what kind of batches? |
| 17:19 | the first question? | |
| 17:19 | wahanui | i think the first question is "What are you trying to do?" |
| 17:20 | wizzyrea | the second question? |
| 17:20 | wahanui | somebody said the second question was "What is the exact error message?" |
| 17:20 | Morthland | label creater |
| 17:20 | let me reprodduce | |
| 17:20 | chris_n | the third question? |
| 17:20 | wahanui | the third question is, like, "What version of Koha are you using?" |
| 17:20 | Morthland | An error was encountered and items(s) not added, the error was: Branch is not set, you please set your branch before adding items to a batch Please have your system administrator check the error log for details. |
| 17:20 | I go to set branch | |
| 17:20 | wizzyrea | ok, do you have another superlibrarian |
| 17:20 | because you can't do that kind of stuff with your kohaadmin | |
| 17:20 | Morthland | Single Branch mode is ON. |
| 17:20 | wizzyrea | you should NEVER use that |
| 17:20 | account. | |
| 17:20 | wahanui | account is not debarred |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | forget account. |
| 17:21 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot account |
| 17:21 | Morthland | what? |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | morthland |
| 17:21 | wahanui | i guess morthland is reading the history |
| 17:21 | kmkale | I am really happy with bug 7698. Is there any chance it can pich the default locale and put it in the xml file? |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | you should never ever use the kohaadmin account to do stuff |
| 17:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7698 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Add ICU option to Koha out of the box |
| 17:22 | sean | kmkale: should i use zebrasrv or zebrasrv-2.0? |
| 17:22 | kmkale | I always had to apply that by hand to all my installs |
| 17:22 | Morthland | what account shoul I use? |
| 17:22 | bag | dpavlin++ I'm loving seeing all those plack bugs/enh :) w00t |
| 17:22 | kmkale | sean: that should be a symlink |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | you should always create another user, give that user the home branch and superlibrarian permissions |
| 17:22 | and use that account | |
| 17:22 | you add another account by adding a patron, then going to more -> permissions | |
| 17:22 | and checking "superlibrarian" | |
| 17:22 | sean | the symlink is zebrasrv. i noticed a file called zebrasrv-2.0 in there, though |
| 17:23 | kmkale | I think its setup through /etc/alternatives/ during pkg installation |
| 17:23 | use zebrasrv. should work | |
| 17:24 | sean | cool. trying it out... |
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| 17:26 | sean | success :) thanks ya'll |
| 17:26 | sekjal | yes, dpavlin++ indeed |
| 17:27 | I'll try running my home library under mod_perl, and see if I can flush a few more of the bugs out | |
| 17:27 | Morthland | I don't see more>>permissions on my patron |
| 17:27 | running 3.2.5 | |
| 17:28 | bag | yeah sekjal that would great! |
| 17:28 | let me know if you don't have time. I think I can set up two installs on mybox and have one plack and one mod_perl | |
| 17:29 | sekjal | bag: I've already got the configs in my koha-httpd.conf; just need to turn them on |
| 17:29 | bag | I'll give you the keys to the mod_perl one and maybe we can spend sometime together looking for mod_perl issues |
| 17:29 | sekjal | oh, right, and populate my install.... |
| 17:29 | bag: that'd be sweet | |
| 17:29 | bag | heh.. send me the configs - and I can throw some sample data at it |
| 17:30 | shouldn't be crazy amounts - but it would be fix to get some little tweaks for mod_perl completed :) | |
| 17:30 | SPEED!!! | |
| 17:30 | wahanui | speed is important however. |
| 17:30 | sean | huh. i ran the command to start zebrasrv, it said starting server... but there is no process |
| 17:31 | sekjal | even if you could just get the OPAC running on it, that'd be boss |
| 17:31 | kmkale | sean run it manually then |
| 17:31 | not with daemon | |
| 17:31 | sekjal | okay, session is getting started |
| 17:31 | lessee how this goes | |
| 17:31 | kmkale | it will show you where its getting errors |
| 17:32 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #677 for job Koha_master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #675 1 hr 14 min ago) |
| 17:33 | sean | same thing as before... the last thing it prints to the screen is authoritysocket id=2. it stops short of giving it a pid |
| 17:34 | paul_p | OK guys, I think i've pushed maybe 30 patches today, time for my family now ;-) |
| 17:34 | sekjal | have a great night, paul_p! |
| 17:34 | kmkale | sean: /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /home/kk/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml |
| 17:34 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 6140 follow-up: DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d5c5378addfa903a9> / Bug 6140 - Set a timeout to z3950 servers that could have network problems occasionally <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]31ca1935593a4b6e5> / Bug 7779 - tools/letter.pl: scope vars for plack <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/? |
| 17:35 | rangi | !jenkins build Koha_master now |
| 17:35 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job Koha_master build scheduled now |
| 17:36 | sean | 12:35:10-22/03 [server] Adding dynamic listener on none,fatal,warn id=0 |
| 17:36 | 12:35:10-22/03 [fatal] Failed to listen on none,fatal,warn | |
| 17:36 | kmkale | huh. try /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v -f /home/kk/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml |
| 17:37 | sean | 12:37:22-22/03 [server] Adding dynamic listener on /home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml id=0 |
| 17:37 | 12:37:22-22/03 [fatal] Failed to listen on /home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml | |
| 17:38 | sekjal | hey, ByWater is on one of Marshall's slides as part of the competitive landscape of the US library industry |
| 17:38 | bag | cool :) |
| 17:38 | about time :) | |
| 17:39 | sekjal | liblime koha and liblime academic koha are broken out as separate software, at last |
| 17:39 | rangi | yay! |
| 17:40 | sekjal | "numbers are respectable, it's a piece of the industy, a growing part of how libraries do automation" |
| 17:40 | rangi | wow thats an about face |
| 17:40 | from there is no trend | |
| 17:41 | sekjal | he's willing to be swayed by the data he collects |
| 17:41 | "koha as supported by ByWater Solutions is doing very well" | |
| 17:42 | rangi | so is koha independent, i hope he mentions that .. because thats the real success of a project .. the ppl who can do it themselves .. imho |
| 17:42 | slef | and the people who do it with a mix of service providers |
| 17:43 | which we're doing more and more | |
| 17:43 | rangi | yeah thats cool |
| 17:43 | slef | (including internal+external) |
| 17:43 | Marshall's numbers remain unverifiable. | |
| 17:43 | Unless something's changed? | |
| 17:43 | sekjal | points out the migration from LibLime to ByWater and Independent |
| 17:43 | but as for independent Koha, he's says most US libraries get help from a company, so he doesn't mention it very prominently | |
| 17:44 | bag | nothing has changed slef |
| 17:44 | rangi | yeah we now have a public library who does their own upgrades via packages |
| 17:44 | which is pretty cool | |
| 17:44 | bag | hey that's cool |
| 17:44 | slef | I'm a statistician, so I don't trust secret datasets or methodologies much. |
| 17:44 | bag | :) |
| 17:45 | rangi | im a mathematician so i dont trust statisticians much *grin* |
| 17:46 | sekjal | talking about satisfaction: "koha from liblime is pretty low" |
| 17:46 | rangi | actually i lie, i actually did about as many stats as pure math papers at uni |
| 17:46 | bag | is nengard there? |
| 17:47 | sekjal | bag: she didn't want to come |
| 17:47 | slef: haven't seen marshall's raw data, no, but I haven't looked in depth | |
| 17:48 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 17:48 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (6:00 AM NZDT on March 23, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 17:48 | rangi | go away humidity |
| 17:48 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 17:48 | huginn | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 25.0°C (1:35 PM EDT on March 22, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
| 17:49 | slef | sekjal: now you're not at a vendor, maybe marshall would let you see the data. I don't know. |
| 17:49 | rangi | nz are sposta be losing to south africa at cricket in wellington today |
| 17:49 | sekjal | slef: could be worth asking. do it as an academic librarian... could work |
| 17:53 | * rangi | is very happy about bug 7760 |
| 17:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7760 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton |
| 17:54 | sekjal | marshall is estimating from 15-30 full time (equivalent) developers in the Koha sphere |
| 17:54 | rangi | i think thats about right |
| 17:55 | sekjal | seems reasonable... only real way to do the comparison with proprietary companies, i think |
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| 17:56 | slef | rangi: you reckon? Seems low to me. I think up to half of any LMS's development effort is site-specific integration work. |
| 17:57 | rangi | fulltime devs? yeah i think round 20 is about right in a given month |
| 17:57 | slef | rangi: yeah, but that's in the community code, not the whole sphere |
| 17:57 | rangi | but if you want to count ppl doing implementation probbaly 40ish |
| 17:59 | i mean you dont get 256 migrations in a year in the philippines | |
| 17:59 | without a few ppl working on | |
| 18:00 | it | |
| 18:00 | sean | i have searched everywhere and tried many things, but i can't figure this out. when i try to start zebrasrv, is " Failed to listen on..." does anybody have any insight? |
| 18:00 | rangi | when i was asked about it, i was asked how many would i estimate were committing code to the git repo on a full time basis |
| 18:00 | so thats how i answered | |
| 18:01 | slef | sean: second question |
| 18:01 | wahanui | somebody said second question was "What is the exact error message?" |
| 18:01 | rangi | it specifically didnt count implementers |
| 18:01 | sean | oh. i posted it earlier. one sec |
| 18:01 | slef | sean: "netstat -apn" as root may show something else listening on one of the zebrasrv ports |
| 18:02 | sean: oh I'll look back | |
| 18:02 | "Failed to listen on /home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml" | |
| 18:02 | that's odd | |
| 18:02 | koha-conf.xml is a config file, not a port | |
| 18:02 | * slef | looks at his server |
| 18:03 | sean | yup. and i ran it with just -v -f |
| 18:03 | slef | sean: why aren't you using koha-zebra-ctl.sh ? |
| 18:03 | sekjal | .... LL customer speaking now is confusing "Koha" and "LibLime" unconsciously in her speech |
| 18:03 | but does recognize that it is proprietary, not open source | |
| 18:03 | slef | sekjal: :( |
| 18:03 | sean | because the shell was crashing with nothing to show |
| 18:04 | slef | sean: then try: sh -x koha-zebra-ctl.sh start # and put the output into http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 18:04 | sean | when i ran the shell script, it would say "starting server" but there would be no process |
| 18:04 | will do | |
| 18:04 | rangi | sekjal: can you heckle? :) |
| 18:05 | slef | although actually zebrasrv -f should work OK :-/ |
| 18:05 | * slef | rereads back |
| 18:05 | sekjal | quesitons at the end... I have to catch a train soon |
| 18:05 | rangi | oe at least say :You are only talking about liblime eh?" |
| 18:05 | sekjal | now she's badmouthing the system |
| 18:05 | sean | slef: right |
| 18:05 | rangi | yeah, thats where it needs to be clear its not koha |
| 18:06 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: coconut barfi is amazing. |
| 18:06 | kmkale | sean try with your env vars on the same line like : KOHA_CONF=/home/kk/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml PERL5LIB=/home/kk/kohaclone /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /home/kk/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml |
| 18:06 | slef | jcamins_away: coconut barf??? |
| 18:06 | kmkale | thats working for me |
| 18:06 | jcamins_away | *barfi* |
| 18:07 | slef | kmkale: zebrasrv ignores the env vars doesn't it? |
| 18:07 | kmkale | it will either show you the error or run the zebra server |
| 18:07 | jcamins_away | Very big difference. |
| 18:07 | rangi | sekjal: *sigh* hopefully the people listening understand the distinction |
| 18:07 | slef | Barfi or burfi (Hindi: बर्फ़ी, Urdu: برفی), is a sweet from the Indian subcontinent. Plain barfi is made from condensed milk, cooked with sugar until it solidifies. Other varieties include besan barfi, made with besan (gram flour), and pista barfi, which is a milk barfi containing ground pistachio nuts. The name is derived from Persian barf which means ice since burfi is... http://a.vu/w:Barfi |
| 18:07 | kmkale | slef: I just tried that command. without the env it gives exact same error as sean got |
| 18:07 | with the env it runs | |
| 18:08 | slef | kmkale: something wicked this way comes! |
| 18:08 | pastebot | "sean" at 68.100.195.65 pasted "zebra server: failed to listen on" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/317 |
| 18:08 | kmkale | hey barfi, puranpoli |
| 18:08 | today #koha is full of our sweets!! | |
| 18:08 | sekjal | did my corrections |
| 18:08 | got to pack up and go | |
| 18:08 | rangi | thank you sekjal |
| 18:09 | slef | sekjal thanks! |
| 18:09 | rangi | safe travels |
| 18:09 | sean | kmkale: giving it a shot |
| 18:09 | bag | safe travels sekjal |
| 18:09 | jcamins_away | Mmmm. Puranpoli looks tasty. |
| 18:10 | sekjal | okay, now we're on to "what's Koha" |
| 18:10 | oh geeze | |
| 18:10 | kmkale | jcamins_away: come over. its on my menu tomorrow :) |
| 18:10 | rangi | yikes |
| 18:10 | that doesnt sound good | |
| 18:10 | sekjal | LL rep said that it's all open, but that you can't download LibLime Academic Koha |
| 18:10 | so... little cognitive dissonance there | |
| 18:10 | ugh. gtg. train | |
| 18:11 | jcamins_away | kmkale: oooh, wish I could. |
| 18:11 | sean | kmkale: got a permission denied. huh |
| 18:11 | 13:11:00-22/03 [fatal] lock file /home/koha/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/biblios/zebrasrv.pid [Permission denied] | |
| 18:11 | chris_n | search? |
| 18:11 | wahanui | search is for the patrons not the librarians |
| 18:11 | chris_n | zebra? |
| 18:11 | wahanui | zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. or the search engine koha uses |
| 18:11 | chris_n | zebra faq? |
| 18:12 | search faq? | |
| 18:12 | wahanui | search faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 18:12 | kmkale | sean: check perms on the full path upto /home/koha/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/biblios |
| 18:12 | and hope you are running the command as koha user? | |
| 18:12 | data_doctor | zebra has poor documentation |
| 18:12 | sean | yup, just starting. odd. i did the whole installation from the koha super user |
| 18:12 | data_doctor | on its site |
| 18:12 | kmkale | as super user? |
| 18:13 | then the perms might be for root. check | |
| 18:13 | sean | a user called "koha" with sudo |
| 18:13 | haven't logged in as root since i first installed the server | |
| 18:14 | kmkale | did you do install with sudo <command>? |
| 18:14 | sean | yup, from the koha user |
| 18:14 | kmkale | aah check the ownership of the above path |
| 18:14 | slef | chris_n: enjoying groping wahanui? |
| 18:14 | sean | bah. root owns koha-dev |
| 18:15 | kmkale | :) |
| 18:15 | sean for a dev install no need to use sudo | |
| 18:15 | rangi | ok time to feed the kids, back from the bus in a bit |
| 18:15 | sean | i feel like i missed a "check the damn cables" step in troubleshooting |
| 18:16 | * jcamins_away | eats some regular bitter orange fudge as a consolation for not having coconut barfi. |
| 18:16 | sean | off the top of your head, before i ask allmighty google, can i recursively change the ownership of koha-dev? |
| 18:16 | jcamins_away | Yes. |
| 18:16 | kmkale | sean: yup |
| 18:16 | sean | been away from linux for a while |
| 18:16 | kmkale | chown -R |
| 18:16 | jcamins_away | chown -R sean:sean ~/koha-dev |
| 18:17 | slef | chown -R user:group ~/koha-dev |
| 18:17 | kmkale | aahh I think he is using the koha user? |
| 18:17 | sean | rog. thanks |
| 18:17 | jcamins_away | sean: right, whichever user you are running Koha as. |
| 18:19 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #677: NOW UNSTABLE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/677/ |
| 18:19 | * dpavlin: Bug 7768 - acqui/z3950_search.pl: remove sub displayresults to fix plack scoping | |
| 18:19 | * dpavlin: Bug 7767 - acqui/basketgroup.pl: our $template scoping for plack | |
| 18:19 | * dpavlin: Bug 7765 - labels/label-edit-layout.pl: plack $layout scoping | |
| 18:19 | * f.demians: SIGNED-OFF Bug 7590 Cataloging authorities search result page is broken | |
| 18:19 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add unique ids and a module class to all acquisitions pages | |
| 18:19 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add unique ids and a module class to all authorities pages | |
| 18:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7768 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , acqui/z3950_search.pl: remove sub displayresults to fix scoping |
| 18:19 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add unique ids and a module class to all administration pages |
| 18:19 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (cart) | |
| 18:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7767 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , acqui/basketgroup.pl: our $template scoping |
| 18:19 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760: Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (batch, error) |
| 18:19 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (catalog) | |
| 18:19 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (cataloguing) | |
| 18:19 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (circulation) | |
| 18:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7765 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Passed QA , label-edit-layout.pl $layout scoping for plack #20 |
| 18:19 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7590 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Cataloging authorities search result page is broken | |
| 18:19 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton (lists, suggestion, z39.50) |
| 18:19 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customization (patrons) | |
| 18:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7760 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton |
| 18:19 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customization (serials) |
| 18:19 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customization (tools) | |
| 18:19 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customization (patroncard, labels) | |
| 18:19 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7760 - Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customization (reports, ...) | |
| 18:19 | * dpavlin: Bug 7779 - tools/letter.pl: scope vars for plack | |
| 18:19 | * juan.sieira: Bug 6140 - Set a timeout to z3950 servers that could have network problems occasionally | |
| 18:19 | * paul.poulain: bug 6140 follow-up: DBRev number | |
| 18:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7779 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , tools/letter.pl: scope vars for plack |
| 18:19 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6140 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, juan.sieira, Pushed to Master , Set a timeout to z3950 servers that could have network problems occasionally | |
| 18:20 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #678 for job Koha_master (previous build: NOW UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #675 2 hr 1 min ago) |
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| 18:22 | sean | kmkale: the process showed up. sigh. looks like it was a permission issue the whole time. i suppose this is a good issue to have when getting back into linux. i checked everything BUT that |
| 18:23 | kmkale | sean: heh. perms get you many times |
| 18:23 | even if you work on linux full time | |
| 18:24 | but you had the zebrasrb path prob in the sh file too | |
| 18:24 | anyway glad its solved for you :) | |
| 18:25 | jcamins_away | sean: I have probably installed Koha in dev mode several dozen times now. |
| 18:25 | Can you guess how many times I've been tripped up by that? | |
| 18:25 | (hint: not quite as many times as I've installed Koha in dev mode, but pretty close) | |
| 18:25 | :) | |
| 18:26 | kmkale | :) |
| 18:27 | sean | hmmm. my librarian still says that searching is not working. guess i'm still in troubleshooting mode |
| 18:27 | jcamins_away | sean: now you have to reindex. |
| 18:27 | kmkale | sean: now run the rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 18:27 | jcamins_away | misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r -v |
| 18:27 | sean | i already did before the servgice was running. should i do it again? |
| 18:28 | kmkale | whith your env of koha_conf and perl5lib exported :) |
| 18:28 | jcamins_away | sean: if the permissions were wrong, the reindex probably didn't actually work successfully. |
| 18:28 | sean | i also still need to do the cronjob |
| 18:28 | kmkale | sean: yes |
| 18:28 | sean | ah, jcamins, good point |
| 18:32 | no success, after rebuild. i wonder if i jacked up the perms on the zebra db as well | |
| 18:32 | is that where the index is stored? | |
| 18:33 | jcamins_away | sean: it should be in ~/koha-dev/var/lib |
| 18:33 | kmkale | sean: for a dev install the db is also under koha-dev |
| 18:35 | sean | then that shouldn't be a problem, since i changed the ownership of the whole directory |
| 18:35 | jcamins_away | Right. |
| 18:38 | sean | nothing is coming up in the "search catalog". strange. i'm still poking around |
| 18:39 | i do have some stuff popping up in the error log, though... | |
| 18:40 | jcamins_away | sean: what's in the error log? |
| 18:40 | sean | [Thu Mar 22 13:37:15 2012] [error] [client 68.100.195.65] [Thu Mar 22 13:37:15 2012] Context.pm: could not find ParserDetails.ini in /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/XML/SAX, referer: http://108.166.82.181:8080/cgi[…]search.pl?q=pagan |
| 18:40 | jcamins_away | Okay, you're missing some dependencies. |
| 18:41 | Run... | |
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| 18:41 | jcamins_away | koha_perl_deps.pl -m |
| 18:41 | sean | i tried to load all the sax packages i could, earlier |
| 18:41 | k. running... | |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | or more -> about koha -> perl modules |
| 18:41 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: oh, good thought. |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | sometimes it happens :) |
| 18:42 | sean | where is that perl script? |
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| 18:43 | jcamins_away | kohaclone. |
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | just do it through the web interface: more -> about koha -> perl modules |
| 18:43 | jcamins_away | But wizzyrea's suggestion is probably better. |
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | should show you what you're missing |
| 18:43 | sekjal joined #koha | |
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | less worrying about env that way :P |
| 18:43 | sekjal | made my train |
| 18:43 | jcamins_away | sekjal: yay! |
| 18:43 | And there's wifi! | |
| 18:44 | sean | oh. you said that, but i wasn't following. i'm just a computer guy. i know very little about koha :) |
| 18:44 | sekjal | indeed... though kind of spotty wifi |
| 18:44 | wizzyrea | ah we were all there once :) |
| 18:44 | jcamins_away | Except me. I was there twice. |
| 18:44 | :) | |
| 18:44 | wizzyrea | well, you're the exception. |
| 18:44 | kekeke | |
| 18:45 | jcamins_away | Yes. I learned to use Koha 3.0 way back, then forgot everything, and had to start over with 3.2. |
| 18:45 | wizzyrea | oh that doesn't count really. |
| 18:45 | rangi | Back |
| 18:45 | wizzyrea | wb |
| 18:45 | * wizzyrea | ponders the cinnamon sweet rolls in the kitchen |
| 18:45 | jcamins_away | Oooh. |
| 18:46 | I want cinnamon sweet rolls. | |
| 18:46 | kmkale | wizzyrea: you are really on food today :) |
| 18:46 | wizzyrea | every day! |
| 18:46 | wahanui | somebody said every day was a koha hackfest here at Catalyst :D |
| 18:46 | wizzyrea | more or less :) |
| 18:46 | sorry, that should read *coconut* sweet rolls | |
| 18:46 | jcamins_away | wahanui: every day is also a good day to talk about food |
| 18:46 | wahanui | okay, jcamins_away. |
| 18:46 | sean | it says i have all the sax modules |
| 18:46 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: ooooooooooooooohhhhh! |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | did you edit your parserdetails.ini to put the right sax parser at the bottom? |
| 18:47 | rangi | Ohh anitsirk did another sign off |
| 18:47 | sean | probably not :) i found a post about that, but i'm not certain at all if i did the correct edit |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | it's in the install.debian |
| 18:47 | have we established if you were doing a package install or a regular one/ | |
| 18:48 | * wizzyrea | was at lunch didn't see all of it |
| 18:48 | sean | git |
| 18:48 | wizzyrea | kk |
| 18:48 | rangi | I did a patch to make that not necessary |
| 18:48 | wizzyrea | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0ec2;hb=HEAD#l130 |
| 18:48 | oooo | |
| 18:48 | we should update the instructions then. | |
| 18:49 | rangi- we don't need to do that parserdetails.ini edit *at all* anymore? | |
| 18:49 | libsysguy | man bug 5339 went out of date again |
| 18:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Parcel closing in acq |
| 18:49 | wizzyrea | instructions regarding that can go away |
| 18:49 | (just making sure I understand) | |
| 18:49 | rangi | I don't think it was pushed I remember some trolly egg who works for a,logs competitor being an egg |
| 18:50 | sean | i edited parser earlier. i put expatxs at the bottom, not knowing any better |
| 18:50 | wizzyrea | no, that's wrong |
| 18:50 | rangi | Koha competitor |
| 18:50 | sean | in retrospect, i probably jacked up the entire file |
| 18:50 | wizzyrea | naw |
| 18:50 | sean - see that link? | |
| 18:50 | rangi | And I gave up arguing |
| 18:50 | wizzyrea | it tells you exactly what the end of the file should look like |
| 18:50 | sean | yup, saw it. about to implement :) |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | great :) |
| 18:51 | jcamins_away | What do eggs have to do with anything? |
| 18:51 | * jcamins_away | totally failed at following that conversation. |
| 18:51 | rangi | Ill see if I can resurrect |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | I think rangi is replacing swearwords with eggs |
| 18:51 | * wizzyrea | uses shampoo. |
| 18:51 | jcamins_away | Ohhh. |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | trolly shampoo sounds like a godsend |
| 18:51 | jcamins_away | That makes sense. :) |
| 18:51 | rangi | Hehe no its an nz thing |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | lol or that |
| 18:51 | rangi | Watch the movie boy |
| 18:52 | * wizzyrea | keeps meaning to do that |
| 18:52 | rangi | Ull learn the slang I grew up with |
| 18:52 | wizzyrea | that's a pretty good incentive. |
| 18:52 | replacing swearwords with egg is pretty fun too though, you have to admit | |
| 18:52 | rangi | Spoon is another one |
| 18:53 | sekjal | spoon? |
| 18:53 | wahanui | There is no spoon. |
| 18:54 | rangi | You egg could be you spoon |
| 18:54 | That guys such a spoon | |
| 18:55 | I think they use spoon in the ghost chips advert | |
| 18:55 | I'd look but YouTube on 3g gets expensive | |
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| 18:58 | sean | still no results. should i restart zebrasrv? |
| 18:58 | jcamins_away | faq? |
| 18:58 | wahanui | faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 19:00 | jcamins_away | ^^ it might be a good idea to take a look through that. |
| 19:00 | sean | been over the faq numerous times in the past 24 hours :) |
| 19:00 | jcamins_away | Oh. |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | do you know if your initial index was successful? |
| 19:01 | perhaps start there. | |
| 19:01 | sean | "Records exported: 0" is that a bad thing? |
| 19:02 | rangi | Yes means u have none |
| 19:02 | sean | well then :) good to know |
| 19:02 | rangi | That was -b -v -x -r eh? |
| 19:02 | wizzyrea | ok, do you *have* any records? |
| 19:02 | sean | i have just over 2k records |
| 19:02 | wizzyrea | because we don't include any in the sample data. |
| 19:02 | ok good. | |
| 19:02 | sean | -b -a -r -v |
| 19:03 | * wizzyrea | just had to make sure |
| 19:03 | sean | i migrated an existing db to a new server |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea | ah cool |
| 19:03 | rangi | Try without -a |
| 19:04 | Just do biblio first | |
| 19:04 | sean | 0 again. however, i noticed an error message, but it scrolled by too fast. going to dump that output and read it |
| 19:06 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #678: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/678/ |
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| 19:08 | sean | the screen output is different from the dumped output. the stuff on the screen is xml, while the file has the normal index output. which means i didn't catch that error |
| 19:08 | wizzyrea | the third question? |
| 19:08 | wahanui | the third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" |
| 19:09 | sean | oh, missed it. 3.6.x git |
| 19:09 | wizzyrea | k |
| 19:09 | the git I caught :) | |
| 19:10 | sean | now that i think about it. i didn't used to see a bunch of xml spit out when i ran rebuild before |
| 19:11 | jcamins_away | sean: that means you have some record corruption. What version are you upgrading from? |
| 19:13 | sean | i think the old server was also 3.6.x, but i used the package installation on that one. i just changed servers. |
| 19:13 | i did the mysqldump this morning from the old, and then copied it over | |
| 19:14 | regarding ParserDetails.ini, should i remove XML::SAX::ExpatXS? | |
| 19:14 | libxml::sax is at the bottom | |
| 19:14 | wizzyrea | as long as the right thing is at the end, you don't need to |
| 19:14 | sean | k |
| 19:17 | ah. sax_parser_print said i was a bad boy | |
| 19:17 | it's picking up the pureperl entry, even though the correct entry is at the bottom | |
| 19:17 | wizzyrea | ok, is pureperl at the *top* |
| 19:17 | ? | |
| 19:18 | when in doubt | |
| 19:18 | get rid of everything except the thing that is supposed to be there. | |
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| 19:18 | rangi | ahh rollingloans.t |
| 19:18 | * wizzyrea | proposes the nuclear approach |
| 19:18 | sean | lol "that is supposed to be there" |
| 19:18 | rangi | ill submit a patch doing the db thing like we did for ratings |
| 19:18 | * jcamins_away | tries to decide which parts of the table to take off of which other parts. |
| 19:19 | wizzyrea | [XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser] |
| 19:19 | 147 http://xml.org/sax/features/namespaces = 1 | |
| 19:19 | only that | |
| 19:19 | (without the 147 | |
| 19:19 | ) | |
| 19:19 | sean | giving it a shot :) |
| 19:21 | weird. deleted everything but the correct entry and sax_parser_print STILL says it sees pureperl. interesting | |
| 19:22 | maybe just remove that package entirely? | |
| 19:22 | does anything else need it? | |
| 19:22 | wizzyrea | you are looking at /etc/perl/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini |
| 19:22 | ? | |
| 19:22 | sean | oh. just noticed the path it was referring to |
| 19:22 | i was looking at etc, but this script is looking at /usr/local | |
| 19:23 | wizzyrea | you installed as standard or as dev? |
| 19:23 | sean | dev |
| 19:24 | it's looking for the file at the usr location, but the file resides in etc | |
| 19:24 | maybe just a symlink? | |
| 19:25 | wizzyrea | no one else has this problem that I'm aware of. |
| 19:25 | sean | ysy |
| 19:25 | yay | |
| 19:25 | where should parserdetails.ini normally reside? | |
| 19:26 | wizzyrea | /etc/perl/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini |
| 19:26 | sean | yup, that's where it's at |
| 19:26 | jcamins_away | Why aren't you just using packages, BTW? |
| 19:27 | sean | i read that it was a little easier, in some ways, to upgrade with a git installation |
| 19:27 | jcamins_away | sean: no, it's a lot harder. |
| 19:27 | sean | thought i would give it a shot |
| 19:27 | :'( | |
| 19:27 | jcamins_away | If you're not planning on doing development, packages are the best choice. |
| 19:27 | sean | should i just nuke then? |
| 19:28 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIYvD9DI1ZA <-- how to use the word spoon .. at 29 seconds |
| 19:29 | jcamins_away | sean: up to you. |
| 19:29 | sean | i think i'll nuke and do the package |
| 19:31 | jcamins_away | Good choice. |
| 19:31 | sean | virtual servers ftw |
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| 19:32 | jcamins_away | rangi: having watched that, I'm not entirely clear on what spoon means. |
| 19:34 | rangi | it means the same as egg! |
| 19:34 | :) | |
| 19:35 | and really that was all just a ploy to paste this again | |
| 19:35 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsFlVWqWHlA | |
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| 19:37 | wizzyrea | you know I can't eat ur ghost chups. |
| 19:37 | chris_n | what is the proper "name" for the "database" on a z3950 server running sirsi? |
| 19:38 | * bag | loves playing with plackup |
| 19:38 | rangi | egg ? |
| 19:38 | crap? | |
| 19:38 | wizzyrea | UNICORN |
| 19:38 | I think. | |
| 19:38 | rangi | thisdoesn'twork! |
| 19:38 | :) | |
| 19:38 | chris_n | lol rangi |
| 19:39 | * rangi | is totally in friday mood |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | YOURMOM |
| 19:40 | jcamins_away | youmaynothaveyourdata |
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| 19:53 | wizzyrea | goodluckgettingyourstuffsuckers |
| 19:54 | sean | in a new install of debian, is /etc/apt supposed to exist? |
| 19:59 | ibeardslee | as a directory, yes it should |
| 20:00 | sean | it doesn't. i wonder wy |
| 20:00 | why | |
| 20:01 | ibeardslee | what happens if you do an 'apt-get update' ? |
| 20:02 | sean | command not found |
| 20:02 | i just installed this server on rackspace wtf | |
| 20:02 | rangi | yeah i dont think you got debian :) |
| 20:03 | sean | i must have clicked too quickly. obviously, i need more margarita |
| 20:04 | rangi | yes |
| 20:04 | that is pretty much the fix for everything :) | |
| 20:04 | sean | i've been in project management for the past 6 years. haven't touched a server in all that time. relearning everying |
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| 20:06 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ug.cgi?id=5158#c4 |
| 20:06 | huginn | 04Bug 5158: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, camins, ASSIGNED , Koha needs its own cookie, ice cream, and fudge flavors |
| 20:07 | sekjal | blog post summarizing the session I was just in: http://hurstassociates.blogspo[…]e-trends-and.html |
| 20:07 | * rangi | looks |
| 20:07 | sekjal | not much about the question/answer portion at the end |
| 20:08 | rangi | hmm |
| 20:08 | about what i expected, sad that the LL customers believe the FUD from LL | |
| 20:09 | sekjal | yeah... her library didn't want Koha, they wanted Polaris |
| 20:09 | were forced to go with LibLime's quote by those doing the budget | |
| 20:09 | rangi | yeah thats never going to go well |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | what's the thing about the koha fight? |
| 20:10 | rangi | ppl who chose free software on price |
| 20:10 | not good for koha .. or them | |
| 20:10 | sekjal | me v. LL |
| 20:10 | wizzyrea | OH |
| 20:10 | sekjal | there were some... ambiguities I wanted to help clear up |
| 20:10 | eythian_bucklame | > Koha in general is being developed by volunteers. |
| 20:11 | Not convinced that's true at all | |
| 20:11 | * wizzyrea | either |
| 20:11 | sekjal | the librarian was ripping on feature-based quirks that are not actually a problem in Koha |
| 20:11 | depends how you measure | |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | last I checked most of you got paid to do work on koha :P |
| 20:11 | * wizzyrea | does |
| 20:11 | sekjal | if it's by number of individuals who have contributed code, perhaps |
| 20:11 | we have lots of volunteers contributing one or two patches | |
| 20:11 | eythian_bucklame | sekjal: that's likely true, but by number of patches or something, I think it's not true. |
| 20:12 | sekjal | but if you go by number of commits, or SLOC contributed, it's mostly from a few groups |
| 20:13 | rangi | i think its a very healthy mix |
| 20:13 | eythian_bucklame | > Wow...we nearly had a Koha fight! |
| 20:13 | what's that mean? | |
| 20:14 | sekjal | eythian_bucklame: after I spoke, a rep from LL spoke saying they don't have any proprietary code |
| 20:14 | wizzyrea | sekjal was defending our honor ;) |
| 20:14 | rangi | sekjal clarified, and i expect a liblime employee spread lies to counter .. its pretty much their MO |
| 20:14 | wizzyrea | did you ask them about the trademark |
| 20:14 | sekjal | I asked where we can download LibLime Academic Koha, and they said it's not available because it hasn't been signed off by it's sponsors |
| 20:14 | trademark didn't come up | |
| 20:14 | eythian_bucklame | rangi: that's quite true, however it's often a marketing thing that's used to make free software look "bad" because everyone knows a big company doing everything is clearly the best model *cough* |
| 20:14 | sekjal | well, no, it did |
| 20:14 | rangi | eythian_bucklame: yup |
| 20:15 | sekjal | mbreeding brought it up as he attempted to cool everyone down |
| 20:15 | I was packing up to leave at that point | |
| 20:15 | rangi | lol |
| 20:15 | here let me throw some oil on the fire to calm it down | |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | whoa sounds contentious |
| 20:16 | sekjal | didn't mention NZ trademark, just that LL owns "the trademark" (true only for US, but wasn't worth me continuing the fight over, since the whole talk was very US-centric) |
| 20:16 | wizzyrea | well, and I don't care if you don't allow download because waldo hasn't signed off |
| 20:16 | it's not open until you do | |
| 20:16 | sekjal | exactly. "will be released" and "is released" are two entirely different things |
| 20:16 | rangi | yup |
| 20:16 | how many ppl in the room? | |
| 20:17 | hopefully being librarians they can do some research themselves | |
| 20:17 | :) | |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | the whole thing probably has license terms on it "GPL! GPL!" except... it's not open until it's released to the public. So moot. |
| 20:17 | sekjal | rangi: 50-70, I'd guess |
| 20:17 | eythian_bucklame | *grumble*grumble*AGPL*grumble* ;) |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 20:18 | man that whole thing kinda died didn't it | |
| 20:18 | we got busy with things like HOURLY LOANS | |
| 20:18 | * wizzyrea | throws confetti |
| 20:18 | rents the disco ball | |
| 20:18 | rangi | ok bug 5549 and 6679 |
| 20:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans |
| 20:18 | rangi | have trivially easy patches to sign off |
| 20:18 | eythian_bucklame | wizzyrea: don't forget the smoke machine! |
| 20:18 | rangi | and they will make jenkins happy |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | rangi - just run the db dependent tests? |
| 20:20 | rangi | yep for one of them, and the other run |
| 20:20 | TEST_QA=1 perl t/00-testcritic.t | |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | check. |
| 20:21 | hm I must be missing some test data. Is ok, rollingloans.t still works. | |
| 20:21 | rangi | sorry? |
| 20:22 | without the patch? | |
| 20:22 | if it works without the patch, it must be the opposite, you must have the test data :) | |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | no no, I have other things that are failing |
| 20:23 | i suspect I do not have a serial in this data, for example | |
| 20:23 | rangi | perl t/db_dependent/rollingloans.t |
| 20:23 | id do | |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | it works |
| 20:23 | :) | |
| 20:23 | rangi | after the patch? |
| 20:23 | or before? | |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | yes, after |
| 20:23 | rangi | phew :) ok :) |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | sorry! didn't mean to alarm you |
| 20:24 | rangi | not alarmed just confused :) |
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| 20:31 | rangi | this weather is pants |
| 20:34 | sekjal | looking at around 15% packet loss here... |
| 20:35 | sean | stupid question, but i'm running out of time. after the package install, where is debian.packages located> |
| 20:37 | * rangi | goes to investigate bug 7729 |
| 20:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , svc API should allow modification of items |
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| 20:50 | wizzyrea | can someone confirm for me - add a child patron on 3.6.4 |
| 20:50 | mine has failed with a "this user does not exist" | |
| 20:50 | but i'm trying it again | |
| 20:51 | rangi | works on master tho? |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | yes, apparently |
| 20:51 | rangi | hmmm |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | however, I did change the category from a non-guarantor allowed category (staff) to a guarantor allowed category. |
| 20:51 | maybe that did it. | |
| 20:52 | rangi | could be |
| 20:52 | but a better error message would be nice | |
| 20:52 | Space_Librarian: going to the cricket? | |
| 20:52 | Space_Librarian | When it's on, I'll be there. |
| 20:53 | Hoping for a decent spell with the weather tomorrow and Sunday. | |
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| 20:54 | wizzyrea | nope I can't do it at all... when I try to save it just does "this patron does not exist" and redirects to borrowernumber 0 |
| 20:55 | ooo | |
| 20:55 | get this | |
| 20:55 | I put "NEKLSTESTPATRON11111" in the cardnumber | |
| 20:55 | and that's when it wouldn't sae. | |
| 20:55 | save. | |
| 20:56 | whoa | |
| 20:56 | testing_protocols++ | |
| 20:57 | rangi | Space_Librarian: yeah i was planning to go down today ... if play starts |
| 20:57 | ohh koha user group meeting at the treasury dept .. cool ;) | |
| 20:59 | Space_Librarian | orly? (on both counts) |
| 20:59 | rangi | yup, you'll see the email on nz-libs .. and yes i have my beige in my bag |
| 20:59 | Space_Librarian | I'm short staffed, or I would be there for the arvo session (if play starts) |
| 21:03 | wizzyrea | so one can only put 16 digit cardnumbers in borrower? |
| 21:03 | rangi | yes |
| 21:03 | cardnumber varchar(16) default NULL, | |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | okies well that explains my problem then |
| 21:04 | moving on, nothing to see here | |
| 21:04 | :) | |
| 21:04 | Space_Librarian | ;) |
| 21:05 | * wizzyrea | consulted the schema |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | I love the schema. |
| 21:06 | rangi | i should regen that |
| 21:06 | 2 secs | |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | yes, you should :) |
| 21:06 | (and thanks) | |
| 21:06 | rangi | http://grooveshark.com/s/Girl+[…]+Fire/z7ZEt?src=5 |
| 21:06 | listen to that while you wait | |
| 21:06 | :) | |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | ah that's nice. |
| 21:07 | thumbs up to that one. | |
| 21:10 | kathryn | hi wizzyrea and Space_Librarian : ) |
| 21:10 | Space_Librarian | hey kathryn |
| 21:11 | rangi | your call is important to us, please continue to hold |
| 21:11 | http://grooveshark.com/s/Maori[…]cust/2woQNK?src=5 | |
| 21:11 | its scping up now | |
| 21:14 | you are next in the priority queue, one of our trained operators is standing by to take your call | |
| 21:14 | http://grooveshark.com/s/Creator/2J2Irm?src=5 | |
| 21:14 | Space_Librarian | lol. |
| 21:14 | Right. Need my quad shot. bbiab | |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | lol i love you guys. |
| 21:20 | rangi | ok its all updated |
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| 21:24 | data_doctor | g'nite! |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | wot ty |
| 21:30 | woot | |
| 21:30 | even. | |
| 21:32 | batch modifying frameworks - something to consider? | |
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| 21:32 | rangi | hmmm |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | and what i mean is |
| 21:32 | rangi | could be hella messy |
| 21:33 | and what i mean is | |
| 21:33 | NOT ME | |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | take a bunch of bibs and modify them from their current framework to a new framework |
| 21:33 | rangi | :) |
| 21:33 | oh | |
| 21:33 | i thought you meant modifying the frameworks | |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | no no |
| 21:33 | we already have import | |
| 21:33 | that's how I would do a batch change of frameworks :P | |
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| 21:33 | rangi | why not add that as an option to the batch biblio modification |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | eff ya |
| 21:34 | boyee | |
| 21:35 | do we have batch bib modification? | |
| 21:35 | rangi | not signed off |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | OH |
| 21:35 | derp. | |
| 21:35 | and probably way out of date | |
| 21:35 | oyyyy | |
| 21:35 | rangi | yeah will need a tidy up |
| 21:35 | bug 5725 | |
| 21:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, laurence.lefaucheur, Failed QA , Batch modifications for Biblios |
| 21:36 | rangi | october last year |
| 21:36 | so TT | |
| 21:36 | so not as bad | |
| 21:36 | wizzyrea | not SO bad. |
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| 21:37 | rangi | still on the train sekjal ? |
| 21:38 | sekjal | rangi: yup, 4.5 hrs more to go |
| 21:38 | internet seems a little better now | |
| 21:38 | rangi | thats a long ride |
| 21:38 | sekjal | got my followup for 5549 suspension in days attached to bug report |
| 21:38 | yeah, 7hrs total | |
| 21:39 | DC to Springfield, mA | |
| 21:39 | rangi | sweet i did a follow for the test |
| 21:39 | sekjal | it's getting put together |
| 21:39 | very encouraging stuff | |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | also - the sort on the items screen |
| 21:39 | edit items* | |
| 21:40 | it should be by home branch | |
| 21:40 | not holding branch. | |
| 21:40 | * wizzyrea | grumps about it. |
| 21:41 | sekjal | I think bug 5668 is almost ready, too |
| 21:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668 enhancement, P3, ---, mtj, Signed Off , Star ratings in the opac |
| 21:45 | rangi | yay |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea: wasnt someone wanting the opposite for teh detail page? | |
| 21:45 | sort by holding not home | |
| 21:45 | 123 :) | |
| 21:46 | wizzyrea | no |
| 21:46 | no no | |
| 21:46 | they always want to sort by home | |
| 21:46 | rangi | oh i dont think they do |
| 21:46 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 21:46 | we just fixed the detail to sort by home | |
| 21:46 | ^.^ | |
| 21:47 | rangi | yeah and someone already complained |
| 21:47 | :) | |
| 21:47 | sekjal | ah, but what about floating collections? |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | lol gfdi. |
| 21:47 | rangi | exacterly! |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | who complained? |
| 21:47 | just curious | |
| 21:47 | rangi | ppl who use floating collections |
| 21:47 | i think katrin | |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | oh psh. |
| 21:47 | rangi | raised that |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | well they are speshul |
| 21:47 | rangi | heh |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | no seriously |
| 21:47 | we'll have to figure something out for that | |
| 21:47 | for floating | |
| 21:47 | rangi | yup |
| 21:48 | and then just random others who are weird | |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | that's a legitimate complaint. :) |
| 21:48 | and now | |
| 21:48 | new* | |
| 21:48 | split out floating items into their own table? | |
| 21:48 | that is sorted by holding? | |
| 21:48 | sekjal | NO! |
| 21:48 | oh god no | |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 21:48 | sekjal | no more tables |
| 21:48 | not for that, anyway | |
| 21:49 | rangi | users dont care |
| 21:49 | they want to know where the book is | |
| 21:49 | thats all | |
| 21:49 | this whole owned by but here but sorted this way | |
| 21:49 | is just obfusctication | |
| 21:50 | sekjal | I think the issue is access |
| 21:50 | rangi | just tell me where the goddamned item is and if i can have it |
| 21:50 | sekjal | the item may be at a different holding branch, but can I get it from there? |
| 21:50 | or does it have to go home first? | |
| 21:50 | rangi | exactly |
| 21:50 | its here | |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | but people's definition of "where it is" is different. |
| 21:50 | sekjal | "that depends on what 'is' is" |
| 21:50 | sean | i'm so tired of errors. has anyone seen this? |
| 21:50 | Could not create file parser context for file "/etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml": Permission denied at /usr/lib/perl5/XML/LibXML/SAX.pm line 80 at /usr/share/perl5/XML/Simple.pm line 362 | |
| 21:50 | rangi | but availability should say, needs transger |
| 21:51 | fer even | |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | hmmm |
| 21:51 | I'd have to think about that. | |
| 21:51 | rangi | or not available at this branch |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | for a not-logged-in user |
| 21:51 | rangi | or something |
| 21:51 | sean | i started fresh with a clean server and a package install |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | we don't know where they are |
| 21:51 | or who they belong to | |
| 21:51 | sean | i get that error when i try to surf to the page |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | i'm thinking opac |
| 21:51 | sekjal | it's not about loans or transfers; it's about fulfillment. what's the quickest way for me to get X? |
| 21:52 | rangi | yep, its a tricky one, but i dont think another column listing who owns the book helps |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | it helps staff. |
| 21:52 | rangi | yes |
| 21:52 | but keep that off the opac | |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | not necessarily patrons though |
| 21:52 | rangi | less is more |
| 21:52 | theres already too much on the opac | |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | marc = too much |
| 21:52 | rangi | tl;dr went to amazon instead |
| 21:52 | thats what most opacs are | |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 21:56 | sean | should the perl5 directory be more open? i was so close to being done with this install, and now i can't even access the site |
| 21:57 | rangi | looks you you have messed up permissions again |
| 21:57 | sean | but on the perl5 directory? does the koha user have to own that too? |
| 21:57 | sekjal | bug 5668 |
| 21:57 | wahanui | bug 5668 is almost ready, too |
| 21:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668 enhancement, P3, ---, mtj, Passed QA , Star ratings in the opac |
| 21:57 | rangi | no |
| 21:57 | the error is saying | |
| 21:58 | Could not create file parser context for file "/etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml" | |
| 21:58 | its that file | |
| 21:58 | what user owns that? and the dir its in? | |
| 21:58 | sean | koha owns every from /etc/koha on down |
| 21:59 | rangi | can you look at the apache config for it |
| 21:59 | its should be | |
| 21:59 | /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha | |
| 21:59 | what does it have on the line that starts | |
| 21:59 | AssignUserID | |
| 22:00 | you installed koha-common right | |
| 22:00 | and then went | |
| 22:00 | sudo koha-create --create-db koha | |
| 22:00 | ? | |
| 22:00 | sean | koha-common, yup |
| 22:01 | * sekjal | wishes he was in New Zealand right now and not New Jersey |
| 22:01 | sean | i have two entries for assignuserid, because i have a port 80 and a port 8080 |
| 22:01 | both have koha_koha koha_koha | |
| 22:01 | rangi | thats the problem then |
| 22:01 | sean | sorry, dashes |
| 22:01 | i should just edit the apache file, right? | |
| 22:01 | rangi | koha-conf.xml should be owned by that user |
| 22:02 | no | |
| 22:02 | you didnt do something like chown on /etc/koha or anything like that did you? | |
| 22:02 | because out of the box | |
| 22:02 | /etc/koha is owned by root | |
| 22:03 | sean | i did do chown |
| 22:03 | rangi | yeah .. you didnt want to do that |
| 22:03 | sean | can i fix it with recursive ownership for root? |
| 22:03 | rangi | try this chown -R koha-koha /etc/koha/sites/koha |
| 22:03 | then try hitting the site again | |
| 22:04 | sean | did the koha-create make another user? |
| 22:04 | koha-koha? | |
| 22:04 | rangi | yes |
| 22:04 | sean | oh |
| 22:04 | damn it | |
| 22:04 | rangi | and it set the permissions etc |
| 22:04 | there should be no need at all for you to do chowns | |
| 22:04 | but we can recover .. try that chown above | |
| 22:04 | and then see if the site is up | |
| 22:05 | sean | i did chowns on a bunch directories called koha |
| 22:05 | rangi | ahh |
| 22:05 | yuck | |
| 22:07 | sean | doing /etc/koha got me back into the site |
| 22:07 | rangi | you didnt want to /etc/koha |
| 22:07 | but | |
| 22:07 | /etc/koha/sites/koha | |
| 22:08 | the user the webserver runs as, should def not own /etc/koha | |
| 22:08 | sean | will it take less time to nuke? |
| 22:08 | rangi | probably |
| 22:08 | Space_Librarian | rangi: they'll start play -it's hot and muggy outside. And dry |
| 22:08 | rangi | cricinfo says not til after lunch |
| 22:09 | another inspection at 11.30 | |
| 22:09 | so im hoping they take early lunch | |
| 22:09 | and start play after that | |
| 22:09 | maximep left #koha | |
| 22:10 | rangi | hmm cable out at home |
| 22:18 | oh | |
| 22:18 | mbreeding is coming to lianza | |
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| 22:20 | Space_Librarian | orly? this could be interesting... |
| 22:21 | rangi | http://www.lianza.org.nz/blog/[…]marshall-breeding |
| 22:22 | hmm not sure about this | |
| 22:22 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7787 | |
| 22:22 | huginn | 04Bug 7787: normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , SIP server closes the TCP connection when it receives an invalid message |
| 22:22 | rangi | Note how the server closes the connection when you just hit enter 3 time or send any garbage. With the patch applied, the server will not close the connection. |
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| 22:35 | Space_Librarian | rangi: I see it's an early lunch with play underway at 12:30-ish? |
| 22:35 | rangi | here's hoping |
| 22:38 | sekjal joined #koha | |
| 22:39 | sekjal | aaaah, wifi is much better in this car |
| 22:39 | Space_Librarian | sekjal: that sounds wrong. |
| 22:40 | sekjal | Space_Librarian: train car |
| 22:41 | sean | does koha mess with scp in any way? |
| 22:42 | rangi | no |
| 22:42 | sean | after loading up, i can no longer scp my db dump to the new server |
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| 22:43 | rangi | it doesnt touch that at all, can you ssh to it? |
| 22:44 | if not, you might want to check it has an ssh server running | |
| 22:44 | (which is what scp uses) | |
| 22:44 | sean | i'm currently ssh'd in |
| 22:44 | makes no sense | |
| 22:44 | rangi | dont logout |
| 22:44 | but try another connection | |
| 22:44 | sean | i can console in, if needed |
| 22:44 | rackspace | |
| 22:45 | rangi | no idea, but no koha doesnt touch that, .. you sure its not permissions again, try scping it to /tmp |
| 22:47 | Space_Librarian | re: cricket *throws hands up in despair* |
| 22:47 | rangi | heh |
| 22:48 | sean | ssh is running, but i can't scp to the server. it's stupid |
| 22:48 | i did nothing except load koha and change the root password | |
| 22:49 | rangi | what user are you scping in as? |
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| 22:57 | mbalmer | kohaistas! |
| 22:58 | Space_Librarian | ola! |
| 22:59 | sean | got the scp working |
| 22:59 | now i'm trying to upload a previous db | |
| 22:59 | i figured it would be good to do that as user "koha-koha", but that isn't working | |
| 22:59 | can i restore the db as root? | |
| 23:00 | rangi | sudo koha-mysql koha < db_dump.sql |
| 23:00 | sean | i'm already logged in as root |
| 23:01 | rangi | then just koha-mysql koha < yourfile |
| 23:01 | sean | mysql -u koha-koha -p koha_koha < stuff |
| 23:01 | isn't working | |
| 23:01 | rangi | no it wont |
| 23:02 | sean | thanks for your help, btw |
| 23:02 | rangi | no worries |
| 23:03 | mbalmer | marseille is crazy, they repair a street and there is endless honking.. |
| 23:04 | as if the traffic moves faster... | |
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| 23:06 | * Space_Librarian | can't wait to see Marseille |
| 23:06 | mbalmer | when will you be here? it's a nice town. |
| 23:06 | Space_Librarian | September |
| 23:06 | wahanui | well, September is a good dead line |
| 23:08 | mbalmer | I hope they fixed the road until then, this honking is unbearable... |
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| 23:12 | sean | rangi: when i ran koha-mysql it gave this... |
| 23:12 | warning: failed to load external entity "/etc/koha/sites/koha_koha/koha-conf.xml | |
| 23:12 | several times | |
| 23:12 | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: N O) | |
| 23:12 | rangi | right |
| 23:12 | did you do this | |
| 23:12 | koha-mysql koha < yourfile | |
| 23:12 | or | |
| 23:13 | koha-mysql koha_koha | |
| 23:13 | because i suspect you did the second and thats wrong | |
| 23:13 | sean | koha_koha, because that's the name of the db |
| 23:14 | rangi | yes |
| 23:14 | sean | when i do "koha", it doesn't seem to work |
| 23:14 | rangi | but thats not what you use |
| 23:14 | its the name of the site | |
| 23:14 | which is koha | |
| 23:14 | it will sit their quietly | |
| 23:14 | until it finishes | |
| 23:14 | when you did koha-create you called it koha | |
| 23:15 | so you need to do koha-mysql koha | |
| 23:15 | sean | done |
| 23:16 | rangi | it will take a while depending on how big your database is |
| 23:16 | sean | not big |
| 23:16 | now i can't log via the admin site... i'm full of this stuff | |
| 23:17 | rangi | has it finished loading the db? |
| 23:17 | login with the login details at the bottom of the koha-conf.xml files | |
| 23:17 | sean | been trying |
| 23:18 | i'm an idiot. moving on | |
| 23:18 | mbalmer | heh.. what was it? |
| 23:19 | sean | koha-koha vs koha_koha |
| 23:19 | mbalmer | ok, shit happens. |
| 23:20 | sean | i checked etc/passwd... and there is a koha-koha |
| 23:20 | but the db wants koha_koha | |
| 23:20 | when i run the zebra_rebuild, who should i be logged in as? | |
| 23:21 | i don't know the password for koha-koha, and i'm afraid to change it | |
| 23:21 | koha_koha was in the conf file | |
| 23:21 | rangi | you shouldnt run rebuild_zebra |
| 23:21 | not with the packages | |
| 23:21 | sean | oh right. use the system command |
| 23:21 | rangi | sudo koha-rebuild-zebra <instancename> |
| 23:21 | for you | |
| 23:22 | sudo koha-rebuild-zebra koha | |
| 23:22 | sean | i'm still logged in as root |
| 23:22 | that's cool? | |
| 23:22 | rangi | yes |
| 23:22 | well, being logged in as root isnt ever cool but apart from that yes :-) | |
| 23:22 | sean | i know, i know "_ |
| 23:22 | * Space_Librarian | laughs |
| 23:22 | sean | :) |
| 23:23 | rangi | you might want to pass in -r as a switch |
| 23:23 | sorry | |
| 23:23 | -f | |
| 23:23 | mbalmer | at least being logged in as root gives you some power. nothing wrong with that. |
| 23:23 | rangi | for full reindex |
| 23:23 | Space_Librarian | mbalmer: it also means if you do something wrong... |
| 23:23 | rangi | audit trails, sudo tells you who actually ran the command |
| 23:23 | mbalmer | you better not, Space_Librarian |
| 23:24 | power comes with responsability. | |
| 23:24 | Space_Librarian | exactly |
| 23:25 | All power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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| 23:25 | mbalmer | absolut vodka vodkas absolute |
| 23:26 | Space_Librarian | yes. |
| 23:27 | ibeardslee | no no no, all will be ok when you vote 'Ian for Dictator' in the next elections |
| 23:27 | honest | |
| 23:27 | you can trust my smile | |
| 23:27 | :D | |
| 23:28 | Space_Librarian | how are you going to convince us to vote for you? That smile doesn't work. Especially when it involves stealing meringues. |
| 23:28 | mbalmer | what is realistic for PostgreSQL support in Koha, 3, 6, or 12 months? I'd envision 6 months or 12. |
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| 23:29 | rangi | well it wont be in 3.8 .. so has to wait at least 6 months for the next .0 release |
| 23:30 | mbalmer | but that sounds like a realistic time frame, though 6 months might even be to short. |
| 23:33 | sekjal | I think the guy in the cafe car heard 'cheeseburger' when I said 'veggie burger'... oh well |
| 23:33 | mbalmer | if 3.9 comes after 3.8. maybe having full PG support in 4.0 would be a reasonable goal. |
| 23:33 | rangi | 3.9 wont come after |
| 23:34 | 3.10 will be after 3.8 | |
| 23:34 | we only do even second numbers .. odd ones are the dev branch | |
| 23:34 | ibeardslee | Space_Librarian: It's not stealing them. They weren't getting the attention they deserved, so I looked after them. |
| 23:34 | rangi | master is current 3.7.x |
| 23:35 | mbalmer | ok, so maybe 3.12 |
| 23:35 | Space_Librarian | ibeardslee: You see me coming and you steal them. |
| 23:35 | ibeardslee | it's like taking a poor homeless kitteh and giving it some love |
| 23:36 | Space_Librarian | you're not doing a good job of convincing us to vote for you... |
| 23:36 | ibeardslee | Space_Librarian: I moved them closer to the edge of the table for you so your didn't have to reach so far |
| 23:36 | .. let's ignore that it was the further side of the table | |
| 23:36 | the closer side was too cluttered | |
| 23:37 | sekjal | I think we should decide, as a community, what features are going to define Koha 4.0 |
| 23:37 | Space_Librarian | sekjal: agreed |
| 23:37 | sekjal | I know Solr is one of them, but is it the only one? any others we want to use to define the new number? |
| 23:37 | mbalmer | when will it be 4.0, I mean after which 3.X release? |
| 23:37 | sekjal | mbalmer: undefined |
| 23:38 | we'll continue on 3.X until there is a 'major structural change' | |
| 23:38 | Solr is one such change | |
| 23:38 | mbalmer | I'd like to see full PostgreSQL support in 4.0 |
| 23:38 | sekjal | but should it be "Solr and something else" |
| 23:38 | rangi | elasticsearch |
| 23:39 | sekjal | rangi: what's that? |
| 23:39 | rangi | solr done right |
| 23:39 | http://www.elasticsearch.org/ | |
| 23:39 | its a schema free, restful indexing engine | |
| 23:40 | seriously and i mean seriously outperforms solr | |
| 23:41 | http://www.slideshare.net/pete[…]derensuhonospart2 | |
| 23:41 | mbalmer | 4.0 is pbly at least a year from now, if not more, so PostgreSQL support in it seem reasonable and doable. |
| 23:42 | sekjal | I like their 404s |
| 23:43 | oh, so what about 4.0 = ( new search engine && database independence ) | |
| 23:43 | rangi | seems ok to me |
| 23:44 | mbalmer | sekjal, lets be honest on this one: database independence will probably only mean run on MySQL and PostgreSQL. |
| 23:44 | rangi | it better not |
| 23:44 | because thats a really weak definition of independence | |
| 23:45 | call it run on 2 databases if thats what the goal is | |
| 23:45 | mbalmer | That is why you should not advertise DB independence. |
| 23:45 | rangi | no thats why we should try and actually do that |
| 23:45 | mbalmer | it will not work. |
| 23:45 | imo. | |
| 23:46 | and it makes not much sense, either, again imo. | |
| 23:46 | rangi | Space_Librarian: 2pm apparently |
| 23:48 | Space_Librarian | yep. saw that |
| 23:48 | curious to see where they put Flynn. | |
| 23:50 | rangi | yeah |
| 23:50 | mbalmer | zzz time here. |
| 23:50 | have a good koha night. | |
| 23:50 | Space_Librarian | ciao |
| 23:51 | cait | night all :) |
| 23:51 | mbalmer | night kathrin! |
| 23:52 | cait | that's not me I fear |
| 23:52 | no th | |
| 23:54 | mbalmer | ah, those german nitpickers ;) |
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