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| 00:07 | Oak joined #koha | |
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| 00:19 | Shane-S | so I need a little help I made a mistake in a patch, and I want to correct it, how would I append my change to the patch in git? |
| 00:20 | eythian | Shane-S: git commit --amend is possibly what you need |
| 00:20 | it changes the previous commit to incorporate the new stuff | |
| 00:20 | Shane-S | hmm...well I made a second patch since then (different file though) is there a way to add it to an older patch? |
| 00:21 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 00:21 | @wunder islamabad | |
| 00:21 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 7.0°C (5:00 AM PKT on March 09, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 00:21 | Shane-S | or should I just made a new patch specifing the files again? |
| 00:22 | eythian | Shane-S: make a new commit, then do git rebase -i master, reorder things and squash the two patches that should go together. |
| 00:22 | (maybe replace master with whatever you've based this branch on) | |
| 00:22 | Shane-S | that just went over my head...still new to this, I will try and just re-add the file to a new patch will that work?\ |
| 00:23 | eythian | probably not |
| 00:23 | because it's been added | |
| 00:23 | sturmtruppen | another newbie question... |
| 00:23 | /usr/bin/zebraidx(32637) [warn] Cannot open `zebra.cfg' [No such file or directory] | |
| 00:23 | ??????????????? | |
| 00:23 | eythian | Have a go with the rebase, it gives you some instructions in the editor that comes up |
| 00:24 | sturmtruppen: how have you installed things? | |
| 00:24 | Shane-S | where are you getting that sturmtruppen ? |
| 00:24 | sturmtruppen | hi everyone |
| 00:24 | i installed by git | |
| 00:24 | Shane-S | did you use aptitude last night? |
| 00:24 | didn't* | |
| 00:25 | sturmtruppen | after a new collocation of a book, i try /usr/bin/zebraidx -d koha |
| 00:25 | eythian | sturmtruppen: don't do that |
| 00:25 | sturmtruppen | yes, last night. New day, new virtual machine, new installation method |
| 00:25 | eythian | wahanui: faq |
| 00:25 | wahanui | faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 00:26 | eythian | look at the stuff at the bottom of the faq |
| 00:26 | you can't use zebraidx directly | |
| 00:26 | Shane-S | sturmtruppen: well if you installed by git and followed a guide it would have listed rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -a somewhere, never seen zebraidx anywhere for making it index books |
| 00:27 | it should also have made you make it cron/crontab job | |
| 00:27 | sturmtruppen | ok, now i read. |
| 00:27 | back in 5 | |
| 00:28 | Shane-S | rebasing huh.. I have some reading myself :P |
| 00:28 | * Shane-S | new I would f* up with git somehow |
| 00:29 | eythian | you can always recover |
| 00:30 | that's why it's good. | |
| 00:30 | Shane-S | eythian: do you know much about patching? not sure what I do with bug 7646 this is why I am re-patching, I forgot </style> DOH! |
| 00:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7646 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , Printing w/o the SQL Code showing |
| 00:31 | Shane-S | wait had a genius idea...what if I just add a "space" to the other file, then git will see a change |
| 00:31 | then I can re-add it to git right? | |
| 00:32 | * Shane-S | admits its probably an idiots idea.. |
| 00:32 | eythian | Shane-S: no, it doesn't really work like that |
| 00:33 | you're not adding files, you're adding changes. | |
| 00:33 | Shane-S | so it would assume my changes aren't diff then the master? |
| 00:34 | eythian | well, it's looking relative to the previous commit |
| 00:34 | if I get this right, you have three commits: A, B, C. A and C should be joined up, B is something different, right? | |
| 00:36 | Shane-S | I have A B and a fit to A |
| 00:36 | fix | |
| 00:37 | only 2 patches made so far by me | |
| 00:37 | A is not related to B in any way , it (B) is in OPAC, A is in Reports | |
| 00:38 | I stupidly did A from a copy and paste, and missed the </style> closing tag and made the patch | |
| 00:39 | * Shane-S | notes it was HIS work, but copied from a pastebin submission before I got git to patch |
| 00:39 | eythian | create C with your new fix, and use the rebase command to glue A and C together |
| 00:40 | Shane-S | okay...reads more on rebase |
| 00:41 | eythian | it's complicated, but once you understand how that works, a lot more about git becomes clear |
| 00:41 | Then you'll be the one explaining how things work to people :) | |
| 00:42 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #648 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 1 j 8 h ago) |
| 00:43 | Shane-S | looks like I should make my patch, as per normal, then use git rebase -i to get an insteractive squash option? |
| 00:45 | eythian | <eythian> Shane-S: make a new commit, then do git rebase -i master, reorder things and squash the two patches that should go together. |
| 00:45 | ;) | |
| 00:45 | Shane-S | *gives it a try... |
| 00:49 | sturmtruppen | ok, i run rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v |
| 00:50 | done, but i obtain a warning: Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) | |
| 00:50 | and i don't found the book on catalog | |
| 00:50 | eythian | I see that warning sometimes, never sure if it's important. |
| 00:50 | Shane-S | you say re-order, can I not to do squash, pick, squash (I have 3 patches at the top that all said pick, I assume I change what needs to be combined) |
| 00:50 | eythian | Try adding another -v to the rebuild,. it'll give you more info |
| 00:51 | Shane-S: squash doesn't make sense for the first one,. | |
| 00:51 | it squashes it into the previously picked commit | |
| 00:51 | sturmtruppen | -b -v, same warning |
| 00:51 | eythian | so you want to reorder and do p,s,p or p,p,s or something |
| 00:51 | Shane-S | oh, what do I put if I don't want any change (the second line is a GOOD patch) |
| 00:51 | eythian | pick |
| 00:52 | but move it around | |
| 00:52 | to put the two to combine next to each other | |
| 00:52 | make one pick and the second squash | |
| 00:52 | Shane-S | ah okay, hence reorder, got it now |
| 00:52 | eythian | sturmtruppen: no, another -v |
| 00:52 | so there's two of them | |
| 00:53 | sturmtruppen | no results found |
| 00:55 | eythian | yes, but the important part is if it told you how many records it added. |
| 00:55 | sturmtruppen | Records exported: 1 |
| 00:56 | that's right because i inserted only one record | |
| 00:56 | Shane-S | eythian: last question said I had success how can I check? |
| 00:56 | eythian | Shane-S: git log will tell you |
| 00:56 | sturmtruppen: OK, so your indexing seemed to work. | |
| 00:57 | Do you have the zebrasrv process running? | |
| 00:57 | sturmtruppen | how can i see it? |
| 00:57 | eythian | ps ax|grep zebrasrv |
| 00:57 | sturmtruppen | i'm very newbie |
| 00:58 | 2576 pts/2 S+ 0:00 grep zebrasrv | |
| 00:59 | eythian | it's not running, you'll have to look in your instructions about how to set it up |
| 00:59 | sturmtruppen | on the faq? |
| 01:00 | eythian | no, the instructions you're using to set up koha |
| 01:03 | sturmtruppen | i have no zebra.conf file... and i do not understand why.... |
| 01:03 | zebra.cfg, sorry | |
| 01:04 | eythian | you don't need one |
| 01:04 | if you follow the instructions you used to install Koha, it'll tell you how to set up zebra | |
| 01:04 | Shane-S | damnit, it didn;t merge! |
| 01:05 | it just killed the other patch | |
| 01:05 | sturmtruppen | i installed from git. |
| 01:05 | eythian | Shane-S: unless you deleted the line, it will still be there |
| 01:06 | sturmtruppen: then follow the instuctions that you used to install from git to set up zebra | |
| 01:06 | Shane-S | where are the log...cause in my kohaclone/,git/logs I just have HEAD and prefs |
| 01:07 | eythian | you type git log |
| 01:07 | sturmtruppen | i understand. here are 2.am and tomorrow morning i have to go to work. sorry if seems i'm a bit stupid or slow now... |
| 01:08 | eythian | sturmtruppen: it's not easy to give specific instructions because it depends on how things are set up, hence doing it the way that's described in the instructions |
| 01:09 | sturmtruppen | ok. thanks for your patience but i'm too tired. I have only few hours to rest. |
| 01:09 | eythian | then sleep and continue it later :) |
| 01:09 | sturmtruppen | good night. i'm ko. |
| 01:09 | eythian | cya |
| 01:09 | Shane-S | just shows my 2 patches with Mar5 and Mar7 dates, nothing for today, and then other peoples commits |
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| 01:10 | eythian | that's fairly confusing |
| 01:10 | it should be the two two | |
| 01:10 | you did have all three lines in there when you saved the rebase file? | |
| 01:10 | Shane-S | yeah, pick, then squash, and a pick |
| 01:10 | eythian | top two rather |
| 01:11 | Shane-S | I copied line 3 to line 2, and added squash in place of pick |
| 01:11 | when it asked me to pick a name, I commented out the second files name and left the 1st | |
| 01:12 | it only asked for the 2 that I have pick and squash on, the 3rd line, the different patch, wasn't in the name part | |
| 01:12 | Should I remake correction to patch 1 and try to rebase again? | |
| 01:13 | eythian | got a server down, busy dealing with that |
| 01:14 | Shane-S | okay np, I will have to figure it out |
| 01:14 | eythian | git revlog will let you always get back to where you were |
| 01:15 | Shane-S | maybe it is because I didn't make it a patch...I just got to commit, I never did format-patch? |
| 01:19 | damn...tried re-adding that line and it didn't work | |
| 01:19 | eythian | no, commiting makes a patch internally |
| 01:25 | Shane-S | I just tried git reflog, get merg e3.... to the point where it had commit: added missing </style> and then I do git status, it doesn;t show my moded file anymore |
| 01:25 | says I am 6 commits ahead of master though | |
| 01:26 | * Shane-S | thinks he should wipe it out and just start from a 0 status and remake the patch it is only 12 lines of code in 2 files |
| 01:32 | Shane-S | git fetch origin ; git reset --hard origin/master will that do it for me? |
| 01:34 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #648: STILL UNSTABLE in 52 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/648/ |
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| 01:43 | eythian | Shane-S: sorta |
| 01:43 | not as you'd expect though | |
| 01:43 | fetch just downloads, you need to checkout a branch | |
| 01:43 | Shane-S | I think I got it |
| 01:44 | eythian | also, if you don't have --hard, then your changes will still be there. |
| 01:44 | Shane-S | even though status didn;t show me anything, when I did rebase it came up with the commit |
| 01:44 | and I just did a diff, and my change was in there | |
| 01:44 | so now its time to upload the patch (again) and see | |
| 01:44 | eythian | git status doesn't show commits |
| 01:46 | Shane-S | damn still not there, do I have to re-make the patch after I rebase and squash? |
| 01:47 | cause my git diff show the changes | |
| 01:51 | yep that was it...didn't know it was not re-making the patch | |
| 01:52 | eythian | git diff shows you the difference between the working copy and what's been added to git |
| 01:52 | Shane-S | thanks for the help eythian , hope you get the servers back up |
| 01:52 | eythian | so if diff shows it up, then you haven't committed it, so git log and such will not show it up |
| 01:54 | Shane-S | but doing git format-patch master worked, wouldn't that have failed had it not been committed? |
| 01:55 | eythian | yep. Which suggests there's some information I don't have that I'd need to explain it. |
| 01:56 | Shane-S | well end result is it works, reflog helped, so thanks :P |
| 01:57 | eythian | cool |
| 01:57 | it's a lifesaver of a command | |
| 01:57 | Shane-S | I am off to bed now :) |
| 02:01 | rangi | @later tell nengard http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Docs/6/console |
| 02:01 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:09 | jcamins | rangi: reindex didn't fix it? |
| 02:09 | rangi | naw the build trashes the indexes |
| 02:09 | ill have to think up a new plan | |
| 02:09 | it does a full make | |
| 02:10 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 02:10 | rangi | it tests the whole install process, not just the unit tests |
| 02:10 | and in doing so, trashes our indexes | |
| 02:10 | jcamins | Hm. That should work properly, then. |
| 02:10 | rangi | and to reindex each time takes too long |
| 02:10 | jcamins | Ohh. |
| 02:11 | Right. | |
| 02:11 | Yeah, that's an issue. | |
| 02:11 | rangi | because there are 80k biblio etc |
| 02:11 | jcamins | Yeah... not suitable. |
| 02:11 | rangi | ill have a think i think i can get a zebra running and then have the tests hit it |
| 02:19 | jcamins | I have to install X to *build* DSpace? |
| 02:22 | rangi | ouch |
| 02:24 | eythian | X or xorg-common? |
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| 02:24 | eythian | nothing should depend on X, but things requiring xorg-common is pretty common if it needs font handling stuff to produce PDFs or whatever. |
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| 02:51 | druthb | o/ |
| 03:41 | mtj | hi all.. i have a .tt / translate question... |
| 03:41 | is this an acceptable bit of template code...? | |
| 03:42 | <form name="tagform[% SEARCH_RESULT.biblionumber %]" method="post" action="/cgi-bin/koha/opac-tags.pl"> | |
| 03:43 | see.. i would have thought 'not' - as it has a .tt directive embedded in an html element | |
| 03:43 | yet, 'prove xt' passes the code with a success ?!? | |
| 03:44 | so... is prove correct here, or incorrect? | |
| 03:45 | i really hope to be "proven" wrong here :p | |
| 03:48 | . | |
| 03:49 | hmm, looking at some existing .tt files - my hunch is that simple .tt directives are ok in html elements | |
| 03:50 | i assume the problem is with many *nested* .tt directives in a single html element ? | |
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| 06:15 | sturmtruppen | hi eythian, hi everyone |
| 06:19 | back again to fight vs zebrasrv... and i gonna lose! | |
| 06:21 | Oak | i'll bring the bugle |
| 06:22 | sturmtruppen | thanks |
| 06:22 | :) | |
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| 06:29 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 06:30 | sturmtruppen | morning cait |
| 06:30 | cait | morning sturmtruppen |
| 06:31 | sturmtruppen | i decided to use git installation, but i have problem with zebrasrv |
| 06:32 | cait | what is the problem |
| 06:32 | wahanui | i guess the problem is its human beings doing it |
| 06:32 | cait | ? |
| 06:32 | sturmtruppen | not starting |
| 06:32 | zebra.cfg not found | |
| 06:32 | cait | hmm |
| 06:33 | I am not sure | |
| 06:33 | permissions? | |
| 06:33 | all zebra files should be owned by the user who owns the koha files | |
| 06:34 | sturmtruppen | i installed by root...maybe is that the problem? |
| 06:34 | by root...seem to be in a kinder garden... | |
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| 06:36 | cait | perhaps |
| 06:36 | most of the times the problems i had were permissions | |
| 06:36 | sturmtruppen | do you know where i can found a git guide to installation of koha? |
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| 06:52 | cait | sturmtruppen: hm |
| 06:52 | sturmtruppen: sorry, not really here yet | |
| 06:53 | dgl_library | sturmtruppen (horrible name, btw), is this what you're looking for? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]eeze_(Git_Method) |
| 06:53 | cait | that looks good |
| 06:53 | dgl_library | you'll need to copy the bit in parenthesis as well |
| 06:53 | anyway… hi everyone, I was on here about 18 hours ago asking about problems with my Koha installation. it seems the problem was that the superuser "kohaadmin" doesn't have proper privileges and so can't do everything it's supposed to do. I wonder if anyone knows of a way to manually fix kohaadmin's privileges in the database? | |
| 06:54 | sturmtruppen | already followed, but there is no part about zebrasrv... |
| 06:54 | cait | sturmtruppen: sorry not really here yet |
| 06:55 | dgl_library | afk |
| 06:55 | sturmtruppen | dgl_library: do you the comic "sturmtruppen"? |
| 06:55 | cait | sturmtruppen: you did run the web installer? |
| 06:55 | dgl_library | nope |
| 06:55 | afk … lunch | |
| 06:56 | sturmtruppen | cait: yes, already done the previously installation. |
| 06:56 | cait | ok, so you have koha running but you need to get searchworking? |
| 06:57 | sturmtruppen | i removed the installation, i'm starting again from scratch this morning |
| 06:57 | git has just finished | |
| 06:57 | cait | ah ok |
| 06:57 | after you did the git clone | |
| 06:57 | sturmtruppen | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]eeze_(Git_Method) |
| 06:58 | cait | you run the makefile |
| 06:58 | and select a dev install | |
| 06:58 | I think you decided to go with igt because oyu want to change things possibly? | |
| 06:59 | sturmtruppen | because i used git with OpenFOAM and was a good way to learn. Here i hope it's the same |
| 06:59 | cait | if you want to develop or have local customizations git is good |
| 07:00 | it's not really different to other install methods | |
| 07:00 | after you did the git clone | |
| 07:00 | sorry, have to get ready for work | |
| 07:00 | sturmtruppen | i'm newbie. first thing learn how to customize koha working. than try to apply what i've learned |
| 07:01 | then | |
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| 07:06 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:09 | cait | sturmtruppen: you will get there - I am onl ynot really awake yet |
| 07:09 | morning alex_a | |
| 07:09 | sturmtruppen | morning alex_a |
| 07:10 | cait: i need a coffe first | |
| 07:11 | alex_a | sturmtruppen: coffe, good idea |
| 07:11 | morning cait and sturmtruppen | |
| 07:11 | sturmtruppen | ls |
| 07:12 | sorry, wrong monitor... i really need coffe! | |
| 07:12 | alex_a | :) |
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| 07:44 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
| 07:47 | Oak | magnuse |
| 07:47 | magnuse | Oak |
| 07:49 | long time no see! | |
| 07:49 | Oak | :) |
| 07:49 | was busy with exams... | |
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| 07:50 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:50 | Oak | hola reiveune |
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| 07:58 | julian_m | hello |
| 07:58 | wahanui | privet, julian_m |
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| 08:04 | dgl_library | is there anyone online at the moment who knows how to manually fix user privileges for kohaadmin? |
| 08:06 | magnuse | dgl_library: what kind of privileges are you thinking of? |
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| 08:08 | dgl_library | magnuse: my installation is somehow faulty (and wizzyrea thought it might be the privileges)… when logged in as kohaadmin, if I go to the Home screen, there's no link under Cataloging except Authorities. nothing about adding items. and on the Patrons screen, when editing a particular patron, if I go to More > Set Permissions, there are no permissions to set. |
| 08:09 | so maybe kohaadmin somehow doesn't have sufficient access privileges or something like that? | |
| 08:09 | magnuse | ah |
| 08:10 | mtj | dgl_library: create a new user, in koha |
| 08:10 | magnuse | and because of that you can't create a regular user and give it superlibrarian privileges? |
| 08:10 | mtj | ... and give that user 'super-user' privs |
| 08:11 | try adding a new user, then give that user super-privs? | |
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| 08:16 | francharb | hello world |
| 08:16 | ;) | |
| 08:17 | Oak | Bonjour francharb |
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| 08:20 | clrh | hello |
| 08:20 | wahanui | bonjour, clrh |
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| 08:22 | magnuse | bonjour france |
| 08:24 | francharb | ;) |
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| 08:46 | dgl_library | magnuse: sorry, I was away. are you saying creating a new Patron or a new user? |
| 08:48 | magnuse | i was thinking about creating a new Koha-user of type Staff, with superlibrarian privileges |
| 08:48 | dgl_library | I can create Patrons of type Staff |
| 08:49 | magnuse | but i guess you can't give anyone any privileges? |
| 08:49 | dgl_library | but I can't see any option to create users. |
| 08:49 | correct. | |
| 08:49 | magnuse | weird |
| 08:49 | dgl_library | what's the URL for creating users? I'll see if I can access it directly |
| 08:50 | mtj | dgl_library: user and patron are the same thing |
| 08:50 | magnuse | i think you already said you can create patrons? |
| 08:50 | dgl_library | yes |
| 08:51 | mtj | so create a patron/user... give it super privs? |
| 08:51 | dgl_library | just can't give them privileges |
| 08:51 | mtj | the log-in as that user |
| 08:51 | s/the/then/ | |
| 08:51 | ah, ok... :/ | |
| 08:51 | magnuse | dgl_library: and you have tried dropping and re-creating your database? |
| 08:52 | dgl_library | I can create a patron of type staff. then I go to that user's details screen. More > Set Permissions |
| 08:52 | The screen says "Set Privileges for Smith, John" | |
| 08:52 | And there is a button that says "Set Flags" and a Cancel link ---- nothing else | |
| 08:53 | Both the button and the link take me back to the previous screen. | |
| 08:53 | weird, eh? | |
| 08:53 | magnuse | have you checked if there is anything in the database table that holds the privileges? |
| 08:53 | very weird | |
| 08:53 | dgl_library | I can't really tell what's what in the database |
| 08:54 | I was hoping there might be a database expert here | |
| 08:54 | magnuse | can you log in to mysql from the command line? |
| 08:54 | dgl_library | yes |
| 08:55 | magnuse | let's see if we can figure out some sql then |
| 08:56 | dgl_library | I also downloaded the full database dump and can read it in a text editor |
| 08:57 | magnuse | try "select * from userflags;" |
| 08:58 | and "select * from permissions;" | |
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| 09:08 | dgl_library | ok, will try now |
| 09:08 | magnuse: sorry, how do I start? | |
| 09:09 | magnuse | ah, log in to mysql from the command line |
| 09:09 | mysql -u <kohadbuser> -p <kohadb> | |
| 09:09 | dgl_library | I mean, how do I open the right database from the command line. |
| 09:10 | magnuse | replace <kohadbuser> and <kohadb> with the choices you made when you created the database |
| 09:10 | dgl_library | ok |
| 09:11 | select * from userflags; | |
| 09:11 | yields an empty set | |
| 09:11 | magnuse | ok, that's your problem, then |
| 09:11 | dgl_library | select * from permissions; |
| 09:11 | magnuse | that table did not get filled when you ran the web installer |
| 09:11 | dgl_library | is empty too |
| 09:11 | hmm! | |
| 09:11 | can I fix that manually? | |
| 09:11 | or……? | |
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| 09:12 | magnuse | guten tag kf |
| 09:12 | kf | h magnuse :) |
| 09:12 | magnuse | dgl_library: let me check... |
| 09:12 | did you do an "ordinary" english installation? | |
| 09:14 | dgl_library | no - I decided to go the "simple" way and use the Koha Virtual Appliance (Unconfigured version), which is Koha (English) on debian |
| 09:14 | magnuse | and how did you "get" koha - packages, archive, git? |
| 09:14 | ah, ok | |
| 09:14 | hm, i don't know exactly how that is put together | |
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| 09:15 | mtj | yeah, me neither.... |
| 09:15 | magnuse | when you are on the command line, after logging in to the virtual machine, what do you see if you type "ls"? |
| 09:15 | mtj | kyle.h from bywater did those, afaik |
| 09:16 | Oak | kf, i know you are at work, but can I take your 5 minutes? need to ask one silly question? |
| 09:16 | magnuse | is there a directory called "kohaclone" or something similar? |
| 09:16 | Oak | and welcome back. |
| 09:16 | Hello paul_p | |
| 09:16 | and luisb | |
| 09:16 | kf | Oak: sure |
| 09:17 | paul_p | hi all (wifi connection crazy today...) |
| 09:17 | dgl_library | bywater meaning of the "other" koha? because I contacted him before and he said it's the koha-community version |
| 09:18 | command line: after doing "sudo -i" I see: rootkoha:~# …… |
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| 09:18 | and then… | |
| 09:18 | kf | paul_p++ |
| 09:18 | dgl_library | "ls" is empty except for 2 sql files I've dumped |
| 09:19 | magnuse | try "pwd"? |
| 09:19 | dgl_library | magnuse: /root |
| 09:19 | magnuse | ok, try "sudo find / -name "userflags.sql" |
| 09:19 | dgl_library | that's not the normal koha user, though… shall I reboot and start again? |
| 09:20 | magnuse | hm, you're logged in as root |
| 09:20 | is there another user on the virtual machine? | |
| 09:20 | dgl_library | I logged in as root a while ago |
| 09:20 | yes, kohaadmin | |
| 09:20 | wahanui | well, kohaadmin is the db user |
| 09:20 | magnuse | called "koha" or something? |
| 09:20 | dgl_library | the search yielded lots of results |
| 09:20 | yes | |
| 09:21 | magnuse | oh? |
| 09:21 | try "su kohaadmin" | |
| 09:21 | dgl_library | the user is called koha-console |
| 09:21 | magnuse | ok "su koha-console" then |
| 09:21 | dgl_library | unknown id: "kohaadmin" |
| 09:21 | k | |
| 09:22 | that starts something called the "koha management console" | |
| 09:22 | I will quit that | |
| 09:22 | magnuse | ok' |
| 09:22 | dgl_library | koha-consolekoha:~$ |
| 09:23 | magnuse | then "pwd" again |
| 09:23 | dgl_library | /home/kohaconsole |
| 09:24 | sorry, it's /home/koha-console | |
| 09:24 | magnuse | ok, what does "ls" show you there? |
| 09:24 | paul_p | kf why ++ ? |
| 09:24 | dgl_library | ls is blank except for an sql dump I saved there |
| 09:24 | magnuse | hmpf :-) |
| 09:24 | dgl_library | aha |
| 09:24 | cd /home | |
| 09:24 | ls | |
| 09:25 | koha koha-console | |
| 09:26 | magnuse | try "ls /home/koha" |
| 09:27 | i'm trying to find a good source for the sql files that should have been loaded by the web-installer | |
| 09:27 | kf | paul_p: mail on the list |
| 09:27 | magnuse | oh and did you actually run the webinstaller, or was that already done for you? |
| 09:27 | kf | paul_p but guess there are more reasons when I think about it :) |
| 09:27 | paul_p | kf thx ;-) |
| 09:29 | kf | paul_p: I think the release date was well known - and we really need 2 weeks for translation and 2 weeks to find evil bugs. |
| 09:31 | mtj | dgl_library: i woud simply start again, with a fresh VM |
| 09:32 | take a mysqldump before the install | |
| 09:33 | kf | paul_p: not much time anyway, and lots of things to test |
| 09:33 | mtj | ... and practice installing your 'un-configured' Koha |
| 09:34 | dgl_library: something has gone wrong with your install... i would just start again - from a known, unconfigured point | |
| 09:36 | dgl_library: if you are missing user_flags and permissions table-data, you will probably be missing other data too :/ | |
| 09:36 | the easy fix, is to start again, from a working state | |
| 09:37 | and try the install again... perhaps you will have more success this time? :) | |
| 09:38 | if things go wrong... just reload you backup .sql dump again | |
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| 10:17 | dgl-library | sorry, connectivity problems here. will be logging off again for a short time and then I'll be back. |
| 10:31 | paul_p | OK, i'm pushing bug 7001... and call for large tests ! |
| 10:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , User Configurable Slips |
| 10:31 | paul_p | pousse master |
| 10:34 | magnuse | yay! |
| 10:34 | kf | woot :) |
| 10:41 | nice big improvement | |
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| 10:43 | kf | 3.8 is going to be great :) |
| 10:43 | authority matching, slips, nice acq enhancements | |
| 10:46 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #649 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 1 j 18 h ago) |
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| 10:50 | vfernandes | hi guys :) |
| 10:51 | one little question: i'm using bulkmarcimport to migrate biblio records... the 001 shouldn't be filled with the biblio.biblionumber? Using unimarc... | |
| 10:54 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7001 follow-up for DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4b5ac82e0283f6493> / bug_7001: Issue and Reserve slips are notices. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bc76efa3cc9cc00d7> |
| 10:58 | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5668] Star ratings in the opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668> | |
| 11:13 | dgl-library | magnuse: are you still here? |
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| 11:19 | Amit_Gupta | heya magnuse |
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| 11:27 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #649: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/649/ |
| 11:27 | * srdjan: bug_7001: Issue and Reserve slips are notices. | |
| 11:27 | * paul.poulain: bug 7001 follow-up for DBRev | |
| 11:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , User Configurable Slips |
| 11:29 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 11:30 | (7001) | |
| 11:33 | Oh look... there is another non-open source mobile interface for Koha. | |
| 11:33 | dgl-library2 | magnuse: ? |
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| 11:37 | magnuse | dgl-library: sorry, i was away for a bit |
| 11:37 | jcamins: we better start building a proper one, eh? | |
| 11:38 | dgl-library | magnuse: no problem, so was I. anyway, we were about to try and see if we could hack those user permissions manually in mysql |
| 11:38 | magnuse | i think mtj's advice migh be better than mine - to start over from scratch |
| 11:40 | dgl-library | ugh. well anyway I've been working on that option in the background already. |
| 11:40 | (fearing the worst) | |
| 11:40 | jcamins | magnuse: unfortunately, *open source* mobile interfaces would seem to be something that are hard to get funded. |
| 11:41 | magnuse | dgl-library: trouble is, if those two tables are empty, who knows what other tables are empty? |
| 11:41 | jcamins: hm, eny reason why that should be hard than funding an open source ils? | |
| 11:41 | dgl-library | magnuse: yeah, I've been mulling over that same thought exactly |
| 11:42 | jcamins | magnuse: I would've have thought so, but what do I know? SMFPL released their code, but there are, what, four other libraries who did it and are not releasing their code? |
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| 11:44 | magnuse | yeah, too bad |
| 11:52 | vfernandes | guys anyone knows how to do analytic linkage in UNIMARC? |
| 11:52 | jcamins | vfernandes: it involves the 461. |
| 11:53 | vfernandes | yes i know that's using 461... but how it works |
| 11:53 | jcamins | vfernandes: I have no idea, sorry. |
| 11:53 | To be honest, I'm impressed that I even know that it uses 461. ;) | |
| 11:54 | vfernandes | :) |
| 11:54 | where i can find more info about this? | |
| 11:55 | jcamins | I have no idea, sorry. |
| 11:55 | unimarc? | |
| 11:55 | wahanui | unimarc is http://www.ifla.org/en/publica[…]ted-documentation |
| 11:56 | vfernandes | i need to know which subfield i need to fill in order to the linkage appear on the OPAC |
| 11:57 | jcamins | You could take a look at UNIMARC2OPACDetail.xsl. |
| 11:57 | I don't know for sure that it shows up at all, though. | |
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| 12:18 | Amit_Gupta | heya jwagner |
| 12:18 | * paul.poulain: bug 7001 follow-up for DBRev | |
| 12:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , User Configurable Slips |
| 12:20 | mbalmer | hmm, need to install koha on my laptop _before_ marseill… ;) |
| 12:20 | magnuse | mbalmer: sounds like a good idea :-) |
| 12:20 | jcamins | mbalmer: might be a good idea. |
| 12:20 | kf | yeah, good plan ;) |
| 12:20 | magnuse: will you be around sometimeon the weekendß | |
| 12:20 | ? | |
| 12:22 | magnuse | hopefully, but can't promise |
| 12:24 | mbalmer | I am installing from git on a development server right now. |
| 12:24 | almost there... | |
| 12:31 | just the web page does not yet show up | |
| 12:36 | vfernandes | where i can find zebra indexation log |
| 12:36 | ? | |
| 12:37 | i've having a problem with cronjobs | |
| 12:37 | jcamins | vfernandes: there is no log. |
| 12:37 | vfernandes | i'm having a problem with rebuild zebra |
| 12:38 | jcamins | Run it from the command line and see what error messages you get. |
| 12:39 | vfernandes | when running in the crontab the scripts runs but the new records is not indexed... when running the same command in the shell it works fine and the record is indexed |
| 12:39 | in the command line everything works fine | |
| 12:39 | mbalmer | grr, "The requested URL / was not found on this server" |
| 12:39 | vfernandes | using the crontab the record is not indexed.... |
| 12:40 | jcamins | vfernandes: you should get e-mailed the output. |
| 12:41 | vfernandes | the output of the script is correctly "Records exported: 0 .^M1 Records exported: 1"... so the problem should be in the indexation |
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| 12:42 | jcamins | vfernandes: you can add a -v (or two, or three) to the crontab. |
| 12:42 | Unfortunately, there is no log. | |
| 12:42 | vfernandes | i'm doing -v on the crontab command and redirecting the output to file |
| 12:42 | jcamins | That's a good idea. |
| 12:43 | vfernandes | but the reindex zebra log does not shows in the file |
| 12:43 | jcamins | vfernandes: add a second -v |
| 12:43 | vfernandes | i will try |
| 12:53 | :/ didn't show the reindex output :/ | |
| 13:00 | mbalmer | server works now. \o/ |
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| 13:07 | chris_n | very cool: http://iphonetester.com/?url=h[…].mysore-univ.org/ |
| 13:09 | magnuse | mbalmer: yay! |
| 13:11 | mbalmer | I think MySQL sysprefs.sql contains a syntax error in line 337 |
| 13:11 | at least that is what the online installer said | |
| 13:11 | kf | oh |
| 13:11 | not good | |
| 13:11 | which pref? | |
| 13:11 | jcamins | chris_n: if only it were open source. |
| 13:11 | mbalmer | the line reads: |
| 13:11 | >>>>>> kc/master | |
| 13:11 | jcamins | Ouch! |
| 13:11 | kf | merge error |
| 13:11 | mbalmer | looks like a conflict not properly solved |
| 13:11 | jcamins | Merge marker. |
| 13:12 | mbalmer | yeah |
| 13:12 | kf | must be fairly recent |
| 13:12 | I updated yesterday I think | |
| 13:12 | mbalmer: could you send a patch to fix it? | |
| 13:12 | jcamins | Okay, time to go over to the new apartment again, and see what the contractors are up to. |
| 13:12 | magnuse | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]97af;hb=HEAD#l337 |
| 13:12 | kf | jcamins: have fun :) |
| 13:12 | magnuse | good luck jcamins_away |
| 13:12 | jcamins_away | Thanks! |
| 13:12 | mbalmer | kf, no, because I don't know if sth is missing around there. |
| 13:13 | the one who did it should do it, to be safe | |
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| 13:13 | mbalmer | maybe he/she removed sth else? |
| 13:13 | kf | I think it probably happened when adding the new slip feature |
| 13:13 | mbalmer | how I can I "clear" an existing installation, so that I can re-install it after the bug is fixed? |
| 13:14 | kf, you only notice the problem when doing a fresh install | |
| 13:14 | kf | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eda319a9f7c84072d |
| 13:14 | would be safe to just remove | |
| 13:15 | mbalmer | yeah, looks so. |
| 13:15 | I wonder if the installer stopped there or if mysql continued on the next line | |
| 13:17 | hmm, it sopped. | |
| 13:17 | so how can clear my current installation, do again get the webinstaller? | |
| 13:18 | kf | hm |
| 13:18 | truncate the table and run the sql file manually | |
| 13:18 | perhaps | |
| 13:18 | or if you just started | |
| 13:18 | drop database xxx , create database xxx and run the webinstaller again | |
| 13:20 | mbalmer | I think I have a git problem, though: |
| 13:20 | checked out master, created a vnode branch. updated and installed the german translation there. | |
| 13:20 | then checked out master again. | |
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| 13:21 | mbalmer | now git status shows me all that files in the vnode branch |
| 13:22 | kf | hm |
| 13:23 | all the files or only the german files | |
| 13:24 | mbalmer: after you did the trnaslation | |
| 13:24 | you have to commit the files | |
| 13:24 | mbalmer | no, the german files the translator created. |
| 13:24 | kf | or tell git to ignore them |
| 13:24 | yep | |
| 13:24 | mbalmer | ah, ok. |
| 13:24 | kf | i sometimes use a .gitignore file |
| 13:25 | it's easier than comitting them and keeps them from showing up and annoying me | |
| 13:29 | mbalmer | but that only works for new files, not for modified ones. |
| 13:29 | anyway, I fixed that sysprefs sql. is that worth a Bug in gnats? | |
| 13:30 | kf | I think I woudl make it a follow up |
| 13:30 | mbalmer: what only works for new files? | |
| 13:31 | ah, modified po files? | |
| 13:35 | magnuse | kf: if you use .git/info/exclude you don't have to track .gitignore in git :-) |
| 13:35 | mbalmer | no it installed nicely. |
| 13:35 | so where do I put that patch? | |
| 13:36 | kf | I would do it as a follow up |
| 13:36 | for the slip printing | |
| 13:36 | because that's what caused the problem | |
| 13:36 | magnuse | bug 7001 |
| 13:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , User Configurable Slips |
| 13:36 | kf | bug 7001 |
| 13:37 | mbalmer | errm, I commit to my "bug" branch, then some magic git command will create the patch file, roght? |
| 13:37 | kf | hm |
| 13:37 | you sould get git bz | |
| 13:37 | when you don't have git bz | |
| 13:37 | magnuse | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 13:37 | kf | you can do: git add , git commit, git format-patch, git send-email... but that#s a lot of things tod o |
| 13:37 | magnuse | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
| 13:37 | kf | and you still have to attach the file to bugzilla |
| 13:37 | so git bz is the magic you want to use | |
| 13:38 | mbalmer: make sure you have your email settings and things correctlsy | |
| 13:40 | magnuse | git-bz++ |
| 13:41 | mbalmer | yeah, I will got through that as soon as I have time. For now I just liked to create a diff against the master branch from the bug branch where committed the syspref fix. |
| 13:41 | * magnuse | just added git bz to a vm - took about 1 minute |
| 13:42 | chris_n | jcamins: has anyone asked them to contribute? |
| 13:42 | mbalmer | here, minutes are rare ;) |
| 13:43 | chris_n | truth |
| 13:43 | magnuse | swiss time, eh? |
| 13:43 | * magnuse | is probably confusing mbalmer with someone else... bever mind |
| 13:43 | chris_n | most of the time my minute account is in arrears |
| 13:44 | kf | mbalmer: it will really save you lots of trouble to check out git bz |
| 13:44 | but | |
| 13:44 | for now | |
| 13:44 | git add | |
| 13:44 | git commit | |
| 13:44 | git format-patch origin/master I think | |
| 13:44 | mbalmer | ah format-patch ! |
| 13:45 | chris_n | jcamins: nm, I just did it |
| 13:45 | mbalmer | since this one is trivial, I even signed it off (also, because I tested it) |
| 13:45 | kf | hm no |
| 13:45 | don't sign it | |
| 13:45 | just send it without sign-off | |
| 13:45 | writing and signing off makes no sense, it might be trivial enough | |
| 13:45 | and you shoudl always test code you authored | |
| 13:46 | but it's trivial | |
| 13:46 | paul_p might pick and push it without requiring sign-off or qa | |
| 13:46 | mbalmer | so how do I remove my "signed off"? |
| 13:46 | paul_p | kf yes ? |
| 13:46 | mbalmer | I put a comment: "accidentally signed off" ;) |
| 13:46 | kf | git commit --amend |
| 13:46 | and delete the lines | |
| 13:46 | you could just have deleted the sign-off line ;) | |
| 13:47 | paul_p: there is a merge mistake in sysprefs.sql | |
| 13:47 | mbalmer is sending a patch you can push | |
| 13:47 | paul_p | really ? yikes ... |
| 13:47 | kf | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eda319a9f7c84072d |
| 13:47 | mbalmer | okidoki. |
| 13:47 | s/can push/should push asap/ ;) | |
| 13:47 | paul_p | grrrr... mbalmer, send me the patch, i'll push it immediatly |
| 13:48 | mbalmer | one second... |
| 13:48 | paul_p | & /me will improve his pre-commit hook... |
| 13:49 | * kf | hands paul_p chocolate |
| 13:49 | paul_p | mmm... it's already here, but non blocking. /me move to blocking test.. |
| 13:49 | mbalmer | paul_p, sent |
| 13:49 | paul_p | (I mean it was detected and announced, but the patch can be commited though |
| 13:49 | ) | |
| 13:51 | kf | mbalmer: where did you sent it? |
| 13:51 | mbalmer | if you don't play with git all day, you immediately forget all about it, need to refresh my brain a bit, I guess |
| 13:51 | kf, directly to paul's biblibre address, as he told me to | |
| 13:52 | paul_p: grrrr... mbalmer, send me the patch, i'll push it immediatly | |
| 13:52 | paul_p | kf he send it to me directly. |
| 13:52 | push on the way... | |
| 13:52 | kf | ah ok :) |
| 13:52 | paul_p | pushed ! |
| 13:53 | mbalmer | gracias! |
| 13:53 | kf | mbalmer++ paul_p++ |
| 13:53 | paul_p | and going back to bug 7144 |
| 13:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7144 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , Floating collection |
| 13:54 | kf | cool :) |
| 13:54 | good to see the big things going in now - better than later | |
| 13:54 | gives us some time | |
| 13:55 | paul_p: will Jonathan fix the lateorders or waiting for srdjan? (I spent a lot of time testing this feature... hate to see it broken) | |
| 13:55 | paul_p | kf I don't know, we will see. But i'm ready to revert 7001 if we can't find a volunteer ! |
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| 13:57 | kf | paul_p: that's the general problem with big changes... we have to find ways to do them... but have to be very careful :( |
| 14:00 | probably no really fail safe way to do it | |
| 14:02 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #650 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 1 j 21 h ago) |
| 14:02 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Remove a merge marker. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1ce3624887ea7ee53> |
| 14:06 | kf | hmm |
| 14:06 | the status Checked for suggestions... what is it made for? | |
| 14:08 | magnuse | kf: where? bz? |
| 14:08 | kf | hm no, suggestion moduel in acq :) |
| 14:10 | magnuse | ah, no clue then |
| 14:14 | mbalmer: is that your first patch that makes it into koha? | |
| 14:14 | kf | magnuse: he is already listed I think :) |
| 14:15 | magnuse | ah yes, number 167 |
| 14:15 | never mind then | |
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| 14:22 | mbalmer | and I hope many patches will come in the future, because we started our "operations" in switzerland for real. |
| 14:23 | so Koha needs to be swissified a bit. | |
| 14:23 | (Chocolate user interface, holes in the cheese, watches, etc.. ;) | |
| 14:24 | we still need a nice logo, though. | |
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| 14:30 | * magnuse | volunteers to sign off on any patches implementing a Chocolate user interface! |
| 14:33 | kf | hehe |
| 14:33 | sekjal | morning, #koha |
| 14:33 | kf | morning sekjal :) |
| 14:33 | magnuse | kia ora sekjal |
| 14:35 | mbalmer | I am thinking of adding support for network receipt printers and network label printers (for media barcode labels) |
| 14:35 | so the perl code would talk directly to the printers via tcp/ip | |
| 14:36 | kf | mbalmer: I think there was noce code for network printers |
| 14:36 | there are still some traces... perhaps you will want to clean that up | |
| 14:36 | mbalmer | noce? |
| 14:36 | kf | once |
| 14:36 | mbalmer | ah ;) |
| 14:37 | * sekjal | is excited about the possibility of a touch-gesture enabled Shelf Browser for mobile OPACs |
| 14:37 | kf | I think there used to be a field on branches and on the "set library" screen |
| 14:37 | oleonard | That was for Unix printers, not sure if that's the same thing |
| 14:37 | mbalmer | we have intermec label printers here in the lab |
| 14:37 | kf | mbalmer: there are some nice options for label printing in koha that you can activate in the sysprefs |
| 14:37 | mbalmer | you can talk to these printers via tcp |
| 14:40 | * mbalmer | has to many ideas |
| 14:41 | mbalmer | to little time, to much perl |
| 14:41 | hdl1 | kf: checked status has been asked by SAN Ouest provence, just to state that the suggestion contains enough information to try and ask for the book. |
| 14:41 | kf | hdl1: thx |
| 14:41 | :) | |
| 14:41 | meh | |
| 14:41 | ie-- | |
| 14:42 | broke my whole layout | |
| 14:42 | * kf | wants to cry |
| 14:42 | kf | it still works perfectly in firefox |
| 14:42 | mbalmer | marseille question: do most people work in Koha on their laptops or access remote Koha installations? |
| 14:42 | kf | I have no idea how to debug this stupid thing |
| 14:42 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #650: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/650/ |
| 14:42 | marc: Remove a merge marker. | |
| 14:42 | kf | mbalmer: I have one on my laptop, can work in thte train and everywhere, without needing internet connection |
| 14:42 | hdl1 | mbalmer: remote koha installation |
| 14:43 | mbalmer | I think I will use both a bit |
| 14:43 | kf | oleonard: around? |
| 14:43 | hdl1 | we have some virtual machines. |
| 14:43 | mbalmer | on my laptop plus remote. remote if I need help from my librarians... |
| 14:45 | oleonard | Yes |
| 14:45 | Speaking of IE: https://www.zdnet.com/blog/sec[…]erabilities/10621 | |
| 14:45 | It's all in the URL really. | |
| 14:45 | kf | oleonard: could you perhaps help me out a little bit? |
| 14:46 | oleonard | I'd be happy to try |
| 14:46 | kf | thx a lot! |
| 14:46 | mbalmer | friends don't let friends use IE.. |
| 14:46 | kf | pm'd you the url |
| 14:46 | mbalmer: yes... but you can't control users sadly | |
| 14:47 | mbalmer | .. but ignore you can them |
| 14:47 | kf | not if the customers asks for it to work in ie |
| 14:47 | * mbalmer | knows he is not being helpful right now |
| 14:48 | janPasi | hmm... the cronjob in debian doesn't seem to run zebra properly |
| 14:49 | marcelr joined #koha | |
| 14:49 | janPasi | it doesn't update the index as it should |
| 14:53 | marcelr | paul_p: you almost emptied the Passed QA list! |
| 14:54 | paul_p: still some time for finishing the qa on 7310? it still applies with one trivial merge conflict on sysprefs.sql | |
| 14:55 | kf | oleonard++ |
| 14:57 | paul_p | marcelr I QA the 7310 if you QA some Biblibre patches ;-) |
| 14:57 | marcelr | you know i keep doing so :-) |
| 14:57 | paul_p | (investigating but 7408 atm, and still not sure i'll push it...) |
| 14:58 | marcelr | what is your doubt? |
| 14:59 | kf | bug 7408 |
| 14:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Passed QA , Expire holds that have been waiting too long |
| 14:59 | kf | marcelr: any news about your cool sru feature? |
| 14:59 | marcelr | not really |
| 14:59 | kf | I am really interested to be able to use xslt to fix some known problems |
| 14:59 | where is it stuck? do you want me to bribe someone with chocolate in marseille? | |
| 14:59 | marcelr | i think i will split it up |
| 14:59 | sekjal | paul_p: what's the issue with 7408? |
| 15:00 | marcelr | get the marc conversion out of it |
| 15:00 | paul_p | sekjal comment/question on the bug in a few seconds |
| 15:00 | marcelr | hi sekjal |
| 15:00 | sekjal | k, will check |
| 15:00 | hi, marcelr | |
| 15:02 | kf | separate sru from the crosswalk? |
| 15:02 | marcelr | if crosswalk= marc->unimarc then yes |
| 15:02 | you could still do it but just put it in a xslt paramete | |
| 15:03 | r | |
| 15:03 | paul_p | oh ! I think I just got it now ! |
| 15:03 | marcelr | good |
| 15:05 | paul_p | expired reserve = reserve with an expiry date set, not reserve that are waiting for too long. The expiry date being set optionnally by the patron !!! |
| 15:05 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 15:05 | paul_p | that's where I was misunderstanding ! |
| 15:05 | hi wizzyrea | |
| 15:05 | marcelr | hi wizzyrea |
| 15:06 | thx for signoff on 7661 | |
| 15:07 | jcamins_away | o/ |
| 15:07 | marcelr | hi jcamins |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | oh, you're welcome :) |
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| 15:09 | mbalmer | crazy, debian with a KDE desktop uses almost 2 GB of RAM |
| 15:09 | wizzyrea | just guessing but I imagine ubuntu is the same or more. |
| 15:09 | jcamins | mbalmer: KDE depends on QT. |
| 15:09 | mbalmer | I know. But still. |
| 15:10 | maximep | really ? 1.4 gigs KDE/Gentoo here and firefox, opera and amarok are open :S |
| 15:10 | jcamins | xmonad ftw! |
| 15:10 | maximep | I wish I found some way to use my 8 gigs |
| 15:11 | jcamins | maximep: you want to use up 8GB of RAM? |
| 15:11 | Easy peasy. | |
| 15:11 | Run three VMs, each with 2GB of RAM. | |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | Run NExpress. :P |
| 15:11 | kf | oleonard++ |
| 15:11 | maximep | heh, my virtualbox is set to 2.5 gigs |
| 15:12 | kf | marcelr: sorry, not sure I understand :( |
| 15:13 | maximep | hmmm but my KDE is optimised for low ram usage |
| 15:13 | magnuse | gah, translation fail! the and on this line is supposed to combine subjects, but gets translated into norwegian "og": http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8507;hb=HEAD#l476 |
| 15:13 | is there a way to tell the translate script to ignore a piece of xslt? | |
| 15:14 | jcamins | maximep: KDE optimised for low RAM... is that like optimising a Windows ME computer for low power consumption? (i.e. turn it off;) |
| 15:15 | maximep | well, on windows you just shutdown all unused services |
| 15:15 | same for kde | |
| 15:15 | only windows I have a license is windows ME :p | |
| 15:15 | jcamins | maximep: you poor, poor thing. |
| 15:16 | * wizzyrea | has a win7 license that came with her laptop. But meh. |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea | Don't use it. Windows is annoying. |
| 15:16 | maximep | never used win7. Looks better |
| 15:16 | I should look at win8 | |
| 15:16 | jcamins | wizzyrea: can you transfer the license into a VM? |
| 15:16 | That'd be useful. | |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | I probably could yea |
| 15:17 | oleonard | Win7 is certainly better than Windows ME! |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | well yes |
| 15:17 | there is that | |
| 15:17 | can't really play games in a VM though | |
| 15:17 | maximep | 98 is better than ME |
| 15:17 | asaurat | XP is better than 98 |
| 15:17 | maximep | well of course |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | at least dual booting it can take advantage of the killer video card in there (even ubuntu can't do that [yet]) |
| 15:17 | asaurat | XP is to me the least horrible Windows =) |
| 15:18 | wizzyrea | XP was really quite good for a while |
| 15:18 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I play online scrabble... that's about it. ;) |
| 15:18 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 15:18 | i haven't booted it in a month or so. | |
| 15:18 | no reason to | |
| 15:19 | jcamins | wizzyrea: true. Scrabble works on pretty much any OS. :) |
| 15:20 | asaurat | XP still supports good and maintained versions of DirectX, maybe not the latest but well... good enough for me :p |
| 15:20 | enough for a 3D Scrabble I guess =) | |
| 15:21 | and dual boot Ubuntu for serious stuff and open source games ;) | |
| 15:23 | oleonard | a 3D first person shooter version of Scrabble maybe? |
| 15:25 | asaurat | boss battle against the letter Z, if its value is tripled that means a quick "game over" |
| 15:26 | kf | wizzyrea++ |
| 15:27 | asaurat: sorry for being confusing on the managed by bug | |
| 15:27 | asaurat: I think the main question is: what does managed by mean? | |
| 15:27 | asaurat | I just don't know this part well yet =) |
| 15:27 | kf | asaurat: and when we want that to be recorded |
| 15:27 | wizzyrea | ! what did I do? |
| 15:27 | kf | wizzyrea: besides being awesome? :) |
| 15:27 | testing the clubs thing | |
| 15:28 | kyleh joined #koha | |
| 15:28 | wizzyrea | oh, well, um, thank you. :) |
| 15:28 | asaurat | well, its seems logical to consider that Managed by would be some kind of "Modified by" |
| 15:28 | wizzyrea | well it's kyleh's feature. It works pretty well afaict |
| 15:28 | kf | asaurat: yes... I think I was thinking of it like that |
| 15:28 | asaurat: I think I would comfortable with managed for sugg that have another status than asked or empty | |
| 15:28 | because I can't set a status when creating a sugg | |
| 15:29 | only after saving for the first time | |
| 15:29 | asaurat | empty ? |
| 15:29 | kf | not sure, perhaps asked |
| 15:29 | I have not checked how it looks in the database | |
| 15:29 | but shoudl be asked, you are right | |
| 15:30 | asaurat | probably, I'll check this |
| 15:32 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #651 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 1 j 23 h ago) |
| 15:32 | paul_p | magnuse++ |
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| 15:33 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7408 follow-up fixing trailing ` <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7a12148671fa1dddd> / Bug 7408 - Don't cancel found reserves. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a9b728ef1125a2717> / bug 7408 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eff5c044a520a14f9 |
| 15:33 | paul_p | kf : we just recieved something from norway, that you should enjoy ;-) |
| 15:34 | kf | hm? |
| 15:34 | magnuse decided to come to the hackfest after all? | |
| 15:34 | hdl1 | nope. |
| 15:34 | kf | oh |
| 15:34 | hdl1 | But sent chocolate. |
| 15:34 | kf | ooh |
| 15:34 | paul_p | nope, but he sent us some chocolate ;-) |
| 15:35 | kf | and you think it will survive until I get there? |
| 15:35 | * kf | thinks about stephane |
| 15:35 | hdl1 | we'll keep some for you. |
| 15:35 | kf | ;) |
| 15:35 | asaurat | lolll |
| 15:36 | kf | magnuse++ .) |
| 15:36 | I am still wondering what I could bring :) | |
| 15:36 | oleonard | Oh, somehow I had it in my head that magnuse was coming. Now I'm disappointed. |
| 15:36 | kf | oleonard: I am too :( |
| 15:37 | * jcamins | is disappointed that he can't come. :( |
| 15:37 | paul_p | I just choose the week where the norway librarians association has his yearly conference |
| 15:37 | reiveune | kf: I promise, I will leave one (or two) for you |
| 15:37 | :) | |
| 15:37 | kf | reiveune: lol |
| 15:38 | * oleonard | suspects no one wants him to bring any American chocolate... |
| 15:38 | magnus_afk | oleonard: awww... |
| 15:38 | asaurat | you can bring beef jerky or root beer ;) |
| 15:38 | * magnus_afk | takes the dogs for a walk |
| 15:39 | jcamins | oleonard: when are you leaving? |
| 15:39 | oleonard | A week from today |
| 15:40 | kf | oleonard: could you pack jcamins in your luggage? |
| 15:40 | oleonard | If he had his papers I could put him in a dog crate |
| 15:40 | * jcamins | folds up pretty small. |
| 15:41 | jcamins | lol |
| 15:42 | kf | lol |
| 15:42 | make it a cat create | |
| 15:42 | crate | |
| 15:42 | i think that will work | |
| 15:42 | wizzyrea | paul_p: what was up with 7001? |
| 15:43 | marcelr | mail on dev list about it |
| 15:43 | reverted | |
| 15:43 | kf | broke late orders |
| 15:43 | apparently :( | |
| 15:44 | late order management - bug 7291 | |
| 15:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7291 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , claims management improvement |
| 15:44 | kf | hm |
| 15:44 | no, wrong bug number | |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | well that would not have been in there when I was testing |
| 15:44 | kf | wizzyrea: it was, but did you test acq? :( |
| 15:44 | bug 5347 | |
| 15:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5347 enhancement, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, late order management |
| 15:45 | kf | that's the one |
| 15:45 | jcamins | Isn't the usual procedure here to report a new bug, and fix it, since we're well away from feature freeze? |
| 15:45 | paul_p | wizzyrea the bug 7001 stood for a long time, and the late order patch has been pushed in january |
| 15:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , User Configurable Slips |
| 15:45 | kf | jcamins: I don't think so |
| 15:45 | jcamins: I think as it added a regression | |
| 15:45 | jcamins | kf: really? |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | it was waiting on qa since january. :( |
| 15:45 | kf | jcamins: I want this to go in too, but if we start adding things again that break other things... I think it's not good :( |
| 15:46 | paul_p | jcamins: it happends only once or twice before, and was easily fixed. Seems this one will require a larger/harder fix. |
| 15:46 | kf | the email sending part... we have to get that right |
| 15:46 | will probably touch other features too? | |
| 15:46 | paul_p | (in fact, this patch was too large. Should have been splitted in smaller parts) |
| 15:47 | slef | rangi or anyone else: know c2 or got experience getting data out of it? ;) |
| 15:47 | @seen rangi | |
| 15:47 | huginn | slef: rangi was last seen in #koha 13 hours, 25 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <rangi> ouch |
| 15:48 | kf | slef: 4:48 for him... |
| 15:48 | let him sleep | |
| 15:48 | slef | kf: awwww, someone just mentioned c2 and I wondered... c2... c4... can you remember the story? |
| 15:48 | C4? | |
| 15:48 | wahanui | it has been said that C4 is a high explosive :-) |
| 15:48 | kf | paul_p: perhaps, but would still be good to make it go in now... and do different for the future |
| 15:48 | slef | wahanui: C2? |
| 15:48 | wahanui | wish i knew, slef |
| 15:48 | slef | wahanui: you suck |
| 15:48 | wahanui | slef: huh? |
| 15:48 | kf | twice as explosive |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | kf, would you want the order slips to be configurable in the same way as the others? |
| 15:49 | kf | slef: wasn't c2 what hlt used? might be on a wrong track here |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | perhaps that's the best route |
| 15:49 | slef | kf: that's what I was thinking |
| 15:49 | kf | wizzyrea: oh wow, good queston |
| 15:49 | slef | kf: but c2 is not a good search term. |
| 15:49 | kf | I have not looked at this... yet. hm. |
| 15:49 | paul_p | kf agreed, I don't want to ask for a rewrite, just not to break what's already in |
| 15:50 | kf | wizzyrea: I think, perhaps not, because you can have more than one letter already - so not sure it can do this! |
| 15:50 | hdl1 | you could try and look at joe ransom's slides in NZ. |
| 15:50 | If it is online | |
| 15:50 | marcelr | wizzyrea: please check on 6875; what issue was fixed for branchoverdues? |
| 15:50 | wizzyrea | missing subroutine |
| 15:50 | paul_p | wizzyrea = the problem is not here. the problem is that the formatting of late orders is now broken |
| 15:51 | wizzyrea joubu added a <order> tag, that has been removed. plus some utf8 handling. (Plus some refactoring). | |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | well hopefully srdjan will be able to fix it up |
| 15:52 | paul_p | I think we've been caught in a case where a rebase had a conflict and srdjan fixed it without noticing the changes |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | ^ probably |
| 15:52 | slef | hdl1: good idea! |
| 15:53 | kf | paul_p: yep, that sounds right |
| 15:53 | wizzyrea | I guess it doesn't matter as long as it's finished by feature freeze. |
| 15:53 | kf | wizzyrea: would still be nice to have some testing time |
| 15:53 | but I tihnk srdjan will try to fix it quick | |
| 15:54 | wizzyrea | well someone else is going to have to look at acquisitions |
| 15:54 | I've tested the thing at least 5 times now, and had librarians try to break it. This last version passed (except this acquisitions problem) | |
| 15:55 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6875] de-nesting C4 packages <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6875> |
| 15:55 | kf | I can test it |
| 15:55 | wizzyrea | that would be cool :) |
| 15:55 | kf | but first needs to be fixed. |
| 15:56 | wizzyrea | yep, srdjan won't be up 'til 5pm my time. |
| 15:56 | or working, anyway | |
| 15:58 | kf | hmm |
| 15:58 | we could try to write a better bug report | |
| 15:58 | slef | ok, travelling again |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | yes, I'm sure srdjan would appreciate that :) |
| 15:58 | kf | but if paul_p reverts... |
| 15:58 | slef | end of show :) |
| 15:58 | kf | ok, too tired |
| 15:58 | bye slef | |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | yea, my thought is that it makes it harder to fix if it's reverted |
| 15:59 | (people shouldn't be running on master!) | |
| 15:59 | (only for the very brave!) | |
| 15:59 | (and very cavalier) | |
| 16:00 | paul_p | well, I think I could let srdjan a few days before reverting. The problem being that I can't push anything that has an updatedatabase (I already did for 7408, and can't revert 7001 without reverting 7408) |
| 16:01 | wizzyrea | what do we have in the queue for updatedatabase? |
| 16:01 | jcamins | The bug I just fixed. |
| 16:01 | wizzyrea | which? |
| 16:01 | paul_p | wizzyrea bug 7144 |
| 16:01 | jcamins | Not sure what else. |
| 16:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7144 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , Floating collection |
| 16:01 | sekjal | running on master is a great way to catch bugs... but then you have bugs :/ |
| 16:01 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I don't remember. |
| 16:01 | Bug 7587? | |
| 16:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7587 critical, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Wrong table name for local cover images |
| 16:02 | jcamins | Woohoo! I got it right! |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 16:02 | sekjal | wizzyrea: does Srdjan work the weekend, to you know? |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | @quote add sekjal: running on master is a great way to catch bugs... but then you have bugs. |
| 16:02 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #192 added. |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | sekjal: good point, but then again it's saturday there |
| 16:03 | so he'd start on our sunday. | |
| 16:03 | paul_p | OK, it's the we for me as well in a few hours, I think it can wait for monday... |
| 16:04 | kf | wil try to do some tests on master |
| 16:04 | wizzyrea | can you do one thing and make sure that srdjan knows exactly what and where to look for the problem? |
| 16:04 | and what to test | |
| 16:04 | kf | paul_p: perhaps you could add what jonathan found to the bug? |
| 16:04 | wizzyrea | ^^ yea, this |
| 16:04 | paul_p | kf good idea, will do |
| 16:04 | kf | about braking encoding and the tags? |
| 16:05 | sekjal | if srdjan can't get to fixing it in time, perhaps then someone else would be able to find/fix the issue |
| 16:05 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 16:08 | paul_p | joubu++ (http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=7001#c90) |
| 16:08 | huginn | 04Bug 7001: enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , User Configurable Slips |
| 16:08 | kf | sekjal: I think fixing means putting code back in here |
| 16:09 | sekjal: that got lost in a merge | |
| 16:09 | so it means finding that bit again and reconstruct | |
| 16:09 | not only searching for a bug, putting a feature bag | |
| 16:09 | back | |
| 16:10 | hm paul_p. hm didn't you say it broke the <order> syntax too? | |
| 16:10 | wizzyrea | joubu++ |
| 16:10 | kf | joubu++ .) |
| 16:11 | oleonard | How many mobile versions are we up to now? 6 or 7? |
| 16:11 | kf | wizzyrea: he is incredible patient too - if you look at the bug for late order management |
| 16:11 | bug 5347 | |
| 16:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5347 enhancement, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, late order management |
| 16:11 | jcamins | oleonard: something like that. |
| 16:11 | marcelr | joubu is not his irc name? |
| 16:11 | kf | similar history to the slip printing |
| 16:12 | wizzyrea | and not a single one of them will commit to actually submitting it |
| 16:12 | WHY | |
| 16:12 | :) | |
| 16:12 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #651: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/651/ |
| 16:12 | * kyle: Bug 7408 - Expire holds that have been waiting too long | |
| 16:12 | * paul.poulain: bug 7408 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 16:12 | * kyle: Bug 7408 - Don't cancel found reserves. | |
| 16:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Expire holds that have been waiting too long |
| 16:12 | jenkins_koha | * paul.poulain: bug 7408 follow-up fixing trailing ` |
| 16:12 | jcamins | paul_p: so you know, it turns out the problem with jenkins is that the jenkins script deletes the index every time it runs. |
| 16:13 | paul_p: rangi is pondering a solution that doesn't involve eliminating a unit test. | |
| 16:14 | * sekjal | is imagining the Shelf Browser in a mobile OPAC that responds to finger swipes... mmmm, shiny |
| 16:15 | kf | sekjal: it's too slow :( |
| 16:15 | jcamins | sekjal: I'm imagining a single mobile interface that is open source, and everyone works on together. |
| 16:16 | kf | jcamins: magnuse has done some interesting things for this |
| 16:16 | jcamins: using jquery mobile and some other projects he has worked on | |
| 16:16 | paul_p | kf joubu did some tests, and it seems that was not broken, just hidden. he had to leave to catch his train, he will investigate on monday (and hopefully test a patch sent by srdjan ;-) ) |
| 16:16 | sekjal | kf: I think that can be fixed by not automatically loading a new page each time the center book si changed |
| 16:17 | kf | sekjal: yeah, that is annoying anyway |
| 16:17 | paul_p | jcamins++ !!! |
| 16:17 | jcamins | kf: I know. I'm referring to the number of people who have announced mobile OPACs and not shared them. |
| 16:17 | sekjal | jcamins: creating a mobile template in koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl wouldn't be too hard. we'd just have to maintain another template |
| 16:17 | jcamins | sekjal: I know. |
| 16:17 | But I, for one, think that template should be open source. | |
| 16:17 | sekjal | agreed 150% |
| 16:18 | oleonard | Or we could design a new OPAC template from the ground up using responsive principles which would eliminate the need for more than one template |
| 16:18 | jcamins | oleonard: that'd be pretty awesome, but I can't help but think that it might be a little over-ambitious. |
| 16:19 | * oleonard | doesn't think so |
| 16:19 | sekjal | one key thing: we need to keep inbound/outbound parameters for each page as consistent as possible |
| 16:19 | jcamins | oleonard: really? |
| 16:19 | oleonard++ # because that was volunteering if I ever heard it | |
| 16:19 | oleonard | yeah, I really don't think it's overly ambitious. But I've never tried it before so maybe I'm crazy |
| 16:19 | sekjal | prog5 (since it's surely be an HTML5 template.... :) ) |
| 16:20 | paul_p | oleonard & jcamins we already made a CSS for limoges, adapted for mobile phones |
| 16:20 | kf | oleonard: continually rewriting the template to make use of the new options we have with tt would be nice... |
| 16:20 | sekjal | could be developed in parallel to our current template |
| 16:20 | kf | oleonard: I hoped to throw around some ideas with you at the hackfest... memberentry is one of my candidates |
| 16:21 | oleonard: because I still have some major translatability issues with that | |
| 16:21 | you can translate it, but the grammar will be poor | |
| 16:21 | sekjal | so we could commit changes and share them without having to wait for it to be "done". the new template would be a 'use at your own risk' thing throught at least one dev cycle |
| 16:21 | oleonard | I can already tell a week isn't going to be enough hackfest :) |
| 16:21 | kf | oleonard: too true :( |
| 16:22 | paul_p | oleonard & kf = have you seen that we will be 32 ? |
| 16:22 | mbalmer | 32 ? |
| 16:22 | wow | |
| 16:22 | paul_p | a lot of french libraries are coming, i'm really happy about that ! |
| 16:22 | oleonard | paul_p: Should I bring my own chair? :) |
| 16:22 | paul_p | yep, our office will be a little bit small... |
| 16:23 | kf | paul_p: it will be cozy |
| 16:23 | paul_p | oleonard you want to know the truth ? we counted them, and we have only 31 comfortable chairs ! (+ 8 that are not comfortable at all) |
| 16:23 | * jcamins | cheers |
| 16:23 | kf | lol |
| 16:23 | jcamins | The authority linking is *so* nice. |
| 16:23 | * kf | will make sure to be there early each day |
| 16:23 | mbalmer | paul_p, get some cheap couch from IKEA ;) |
| 16:23 | paul_p | (some of the coming ppl come only for 3 days, for the last 2 days, we will be less) |
| 16:24 | kf | make sure to order enough sushi/pizza ;) |
| 16:24 | mbalmer | and Pastis! |
| 16:24 | paul_p | kf no problem with that, don't worry |
| 16:24 | mbalmer really, you want some pastis ? | |
| 16:24 | * sekjal | really wishes he could be there for the hackfest |
| 16:24 | mbalmer | paul_p, after the hacking, of course ;) |
| 16:25 | asaurat | kohastis 3.7.323.hips |
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| 16:26 | * oleonard | learned everything he knows about Marseille from "Asterix and the Banquet" |
| 16:26 | kf | oleonard: at least you can speak some french... |
| 16:27 | * mbalmer | hopes the quarter around the old harbour is nice |
| 16:27 | kf | mbalmer: ah, I saw you are still listed at hotelmoderne in paul's spreadsheet |
| 16:27 | mbalmer | paul_p, I am actually in the Newhotel Vieux Port |
| 16:27 | Shane-S | bug 7646, I finally got a patch that works I hope...anyone free that could test the patch? I had a heck of time using git rebase to learn how to fix a patch last night |
| 16:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7646 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ssammons, In Discussion , Printing w/o the SQL Code showing |
| 16:28 | oleonard | Shane-S: Mark the report as "needs signoff" so people know it's ready for testing |
| 16:29 | paul_p | mbalmer beware = for a swiss man, Marseille look like a dirty city. but the "vieux port" is one of the most typical place of Marseille. And close from our office |
| 16:29 | mbalmer | kf, I can't edit that spreadsheet, in fact I can't even read it (no google account) |
| 16:29 | tcohen | a perl monk there? need some comfirmation |
| 16:29 | Shane-S | oleonard: even if I am not 90% sure, because I had git issues, I'm nervous the patch won't work, diff looks good though |
| 16:29 | mbalmer | paul_p, it should only be a 15 min walk. |
| 16:30 | paul_p | Shane-S you could use a sandbox to check yourself that the patch cleanly applies |
| 16:30 | tcohen | is this: if (blessed($variable) && $variable->isa("Class::Package")) |
| 16:30 | paul_p | Shane-S http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes |
| 16:30 | tcohen | a good way of knowing an object is an instance of a classs? |
| 16:30 | oleonard | Shane-S: Or you can test the patch yourself by creating a new branch based on master and trying to apply it |
| 16:30 | kf | mbalmer: i put it in |
| 16:30 | mbalmer | thanks |
| 16:30 | clrh | have a good we, bye |
| 16:31 | kf | bye claire :) |
| 16:31 | mbalmer | is there any other info needed, like phone numbers or so? |
| 16:31 | kf | there is the company (empty for you) name, email , ric nick counry arrives on leaves on hotel |
| 16:31 | and you are added to the database workshop ;) | |
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| 16:32 | mbalmer | that sounds reasonable |
| 16:32 | company is not important, I guess. | |
| 16:32 | kf | I think you leave earlier now? |
| 16:32 | jcamins | ric? |
| 16:32 | kf | Thursday 12am (or Friday 17pm) |
| 16:32 | mbalmer | kf, yes, friday afternoon |
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| 16:33 | mbalmer | flight is around friday 15:something |
| 16:33 | kf | oups, wrong line |
| 16:33 | I wrote friday afternoon | |
| 16:41 | marcelr | sekjal: looking at 7031 now |
| 16:41 | jcamins | bug 7031 |
| 16:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7031 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , More options for AdvancedSearchTypes |
| 16:44 | sekjal | thanks, marcelr |
| 16:44 | marcelr | sekjal: why opac images in staff for item types (quick question) |
| 16:45 | sekjal | I'm not sure... I think there was a followup patch to resolve that |
| 16:45 | marcelr | ok will look into it further ;) |
| 16:46 | sekjal | I think it may have been a copy/paste error |
| 16:47 | marcelr | in catalogue/search.pl |
| 16:47 | sekjal | I cobbled that patch together over the course of several months, mostly in train stations |
| 16:47 | marcelr | :-) |
| 16:48 | sekjal | brb |
| 16:51 | oleonard | Anyone know the reasons behind Bug 7689? |
| 16:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7689 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, Needs Signoff , add possibility to hide my tags in opac |
| 16:52 | oleonard | Clicking "hide my tags" reloads the page and hides the table of the user's tags. But... why? |
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| 16:54 | jcamins | Shane-S: developers can't sign off on their own patches. |
| 16:54 | * Shane-S | was just doing what the sandbox page said :( |
| 16:55 | jcamins | Shane-S: it's okay. |
| 16:55 | oleonard | Shane-S: The sandbox page is aimed at people who are testing other people's patches :) |
| 16:56 | Shane-S | feel free to use it :P I just added a fine and a fines report from http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Library#Patrons_w.2F_Fines to test it |
| 16:58 | oleonard: I haven't used tags, but is there something wrong with wanting to hide a feature? | |
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| 16:58 | oleonard | It's unusual to add a link to an OPAC page specifically for hiding content on that page. |
| 17:02 | * Shane-S | goes to see what the feature is/does |
| 17:02 | alaquerre | Hi everyone, is there a way to sort, by default, the subfield in the acquisition and cataloging so the number will be display after the letter ? Right now we have $1, $4, $a, $b, $e etc. We would like to have it : $a, $b, $e, $1, $4. People told correct in 3.2, and incorrect since we moved in 3.6. |
| 17:02 | jcamins | Not to my knowledge. |
| 17:03 | sekjal | subfield order is important in MARC |
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| 17:03 | jcamins | sekjal: it is, but I don't think there's any way to adjust the default. |
| 17:04 | sekjal | jcamins: no, probably not |
| 17:04 | Shane-S | couldn't the web output be loaded into a JS array to allow it to be sorted in the browser, but not actually change the backend? |
| 17:05 | jcamins | Shane-S: really the cataloging editor just needs to be entirely rewritten because it's... |
| 17:05 | unpleasant. | |
| 17:06 | alaquerre | People here told me by default it need to be letter first and after that number. It's a Marc21 standard. Example : http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd100.html |
| 17:06 | jcamins | alaquerre: unfortunately, that's not possible. |
| 17:07 | alaquerre: the code for the cataloging interface is quite horrifying. | |
| 17:08 | wizzyrea | yea, it's hipwaders area |
| 17:08 | alaquerre | jcamins : Okay. would it be something the community would like to eventually get ? |
| 17:08 | jcamins | alaquerre: yes, I think we'd all like to see it rewritten, but that's kind of a big undertaking. |
| 17:08 | wizzyrea | a cataloging rewrite? ^^ what he said |
| 17:09 | and it would almost require a working group | |
| 17:09 | jcamins | And an army of saints. |
| 17:09 | kf | hm |
| 17:09 | alaquerre | Well, that's too much for our group right now :-P |
| 17:09 | kf | perhaps we could make it a parallel thing? |
| 17:09 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 17:09 | kf | have another editor... until the other is no more used |
| 17:09 | :) | |
| 17:09 | oleonard | Someone should write up a proposal to form a committee to choose preliminary members of the working group development board. |
| 17:09 | jcamins | kf: yes, that would be best. |
| 17:09 | kf | lol |
| 17:10 | koha_fridays++ | |
| 17:10 | wizzyrea | oleonard: cynical much? |
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| 17:10 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 17:10 | * jcamins | has written four cataloging interfaces, and does not want to take on this. |
| 17:10 | * kf | will meet oleonard! |
| 17:10 | kf | lol |
| 17:10 | * kf | is so excited about marseille |
| 17:10 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 17:10 | jcamins | *take this on |
| 17:10 | kf | jcamins: can we plug in one of them into koha? |
| 17:10 | * wizzyrea | is reminded of that 80's song take on me |
| 17:10 | jcamins | I'd like a nice Javascript-y Connexion-like interface. |
| 17:11 | kf: yeah, but they're special-purpose. | |
| 17:11 | kf: go home! | |
| 17:11 | kf | hehe |
| 17:11 | wizzyrea | accessibility? |
| 17:11 | kf | thx :) |
| 17:11 | bye all - cya later! | |
| 17:11 | wizzyrea | bye! |
| 17:11 | sturmtruppen | hi #koha |
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| 17:11 | wizzyrea | hi |
| 17:12 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I think accessibility would be better with an interface like that. |
| 17:12 | alaquerre | Ok thanks for your input. I understand that under my little idea there is big problem. Have a good weekend everyone. |
| 17:12 | jcamins | Just. Type. What. You. Want. :) |
| 17:13 | Versus right now... find appropriate box. Move box. Enter text. Realize that you entered text in the wrong box. Try to change subfield. Discover that your fields are in the wrong order. Realize you have no choice about that. Bang head on desk. | |
| 17:13 | * oleonard | thinks to wonder what pianohacker is up to these days |
| 17:13 | jcamins | In order to have anywhere near as many steps for my suggested new interface, I had to make each word a separate step. That seems like a win to me. :) |
| 17:14 | wizzyrea | college. Girls. |
| 17:14 | (I hope.) | |
| 17:14 | (or boys, whatever. | |
| 17:14 | the follies of youth | |
| 17:14 | jcamins | oleonard: exactly, something like pianohacker's interface, only integrated with authority control, authorised values, etc. |
| 17:15 | And with integrated Z39.50 because... | |
| 17:15 | I like integrated Z39.50. :P | |
| 17:16 | oleonard | Yeah, it sounds all so simple until you, you know, describe it. |
| 17:16 | tcohen | bye #koha, have a nice weekend |
| 17:16 | wizzyrea | bye :) |
| 17:16 | jcamins | oleonard: no, it'd be very simple to use. |
| 17:16 | :P | |
| 17:17 | Shane-S | oleonard: I am baffled by that bug as well, commented as such, I can't even come up with a purpose and I can very much a let user have what they want type :P |
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| 17:22 | oleonard | Hi luisb |
| 17:24 | hdl1 | jcamins: something like biblios ? |
| 17:25 | jcamins | hdl1: right, only not based on an obsolete technology. |
| 17:25 | And somewhat less buggy, ideally. | |
| 17:26 | And ideally the integrated Z39.50 would work directly off the editor window. | |
| 17:28 | hdl1 | jcamins: biblios looked to some folks some great improvement over Koha cataloging module. opencataloger was also an other project for that. |
| 17:28 | http://gna.org/projects/opencataloger/ | |
| 17:28 | based on xul | |
| 17:29 | jcamins | hdl1: it was a great improvement, and I was disappointed when it became clear that Google Gears wasn't going anywhere. |
| 17:29 | Unfortunately, opencataloger appears to have been abandoned 4 years ago? | |
| 17:30 | hdl1 | jcamins: yes. because some company preferred to create just an other project. |
| 17:30 | oleonard | biblios was probably doomed more by Liblime's failure to monetize it. They could have overcome the Gears dependency if they'd wanted to. |
| 17:31 | jcamins | oleonard: true. |
| 17:31 | hdl1 | oleonard: if ppl are willing to take over the code and improve it, at least code is there. |
| 17:33 | see ya | |
| 17:35 | jcamins | Time for lunch, I think. |
| 17:40 | wizzyrea | oleonard: for some reason, this makes me think of you: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r[…]d/~3/jXTlcfRkRh4/ |
| 17:41 | oleonard | Naw, I was never such a color nerd as to know my Pantone numbers :) |
| 17:42 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 17:42 | you know there's a pantone for "Tardis Blue" | |
| 17:42 | hm, maybe not pantone... sec | |
| 17:42 | sekjal | idea: a Koha tool for recording arbitrary statistics (like door counts, headcounts in areas of the library, or reference transactions) |
| 17:42 | wizzyrea | 2955c |
| 17:43 | that's the BBC-approved color | |
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| 17:44 | oleonard | sekjal: What would be the advantage of doing that from within Koha? |
| 17:44 | wizzyrea | you could have a door counter that talked to the ILS via sip I guess |
| 17:44 | that would be cool | |
| 17:45 | sekjal | oleonard: to bundle more of your library stat data in one DB |
| 17:45 | so you could look at circ stats in the context of doorcount, for example | |
| 17:47 | Shane-S | someone get that libraries made scheme quote...sekjal seems to be following it :P |
| 17:47 | sekjal | and, as wizzyrea points out, if there could be a SIP2 or other standard interface for it, various devices could be connected |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea | @quote get 123 |
| 17:47 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 17:47 | * sekjal | is looking for a unified stats solution for his library |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea | maybe something like fulfillment for stats |
| 17:47 | crystal reports-like | |
| 17:48 | but that can talk to koha | |
| 17:48 | "hey dude, what're the stats?" | |
| 17:48 | Shane-S | but you want the data IN koha and no communicating to an external statistical DB? |
| 17:49 | Sound to be like you could make collections interfaces for those fancy sports tires that are out there now? | |
| 17:49 | * Shane-S | not the "wheel" analogy |
| 17:49 | Shane-S | note* |
| 17:50 | jcamins | March 31, 2013. |
| 17:50 | sekjal | Shane-S: not every library will have an external stats DB; why not include it with Koha, and let users decide if it's worth using in their environment |
| 17:50 | jcamins | Big day. |
| 17:50 | wahanui | big day is 9/10/11 |
| 17:50 | jcamins | wahanui: forget big day. |
| 17:50 | wahanui | jcamins: I forgot big day |
| 17:50 | jcamins | Big day is March 31, 2013. |
| 17:50 | big day? | |
| 17:50 | wahanui | big day is March 31, 2013. |
| 17:50 | wizzyrea | why's that |
| 17:51 | jcamins | March 31, 2013? |
| 17:51 | wahanui | March 31, 2013 is, like, RDA implementation day |
| 17:51 | wizzyrea | O.o |
| 17:52 | Shane-S | sekjal: I was just tossing that out there, if others want it, why not add it, just don't think its worth re-inventing the wheel if there are "plugins" so to speak |
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| 17:53 | jcamins | Choosing March 31 for that seems... |
| 17:53 | Wrong. | |
| 17:53 | Wouldn't April 1 have been a better choice? | |
| 17:53 | sekjal | jcamins: better than Feb 31 |
| 17:53 | * jcamins | almost wrote "bitter choice." Would've been appropriate. |
| 17:53 | jcamins | sekjal: true. |
| 17:53 | Well, maybe. | |
| 17:53 | * Shane-S | wonders why people are worrying about 2013, I hear we are all doomed in 2012 anyway *snickers( |
| 17:54 | jcamins | Actually, February 31 might have been better. |
| 17:54 | @quote search rda | |
| 17:54 | huginn | jcamins: No matching quotes were found. |
| 17:54 | jcamins | @rda? |
| 17:54 | huginn | jcamins: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 17:55 | Shane-S | wizzyrea: I am not pressuring, just curious as you have that paid service, my book covers in results break your paid service covers? |
| 17:56 | * Shane-S | is staring at quotes for computers so he is kinda bored waiting for a call back |
| 17:59 | jcamins | Shane-S: new server? |
| 17:59 | Shane-S | no, waiting on my budget for that, getting a 2U server that I can virtualize with 32Gb Ram :) |
| 17:59 | Right now I am waiting for the sales rep to call me back on 30 netbooks | |
| 18:00 | I want to know why the order is "stuck" | |
| 18:00 | jcamins | Because anyone who is ordering 30 netbooks should be upsold to a smaller number of higher margin items? |
| 18:02 | Shane-S | Lol doubt it, love my netbooks, for 5-12 year old's they work great. iPads even better for 5-8 |
| 18:02 | I get more complaints from adults going...they kids can't read the screen...and I respond...I can so why can't they...oh wait it is YOU who can't :P | |
| 18:03 | I am a mean techie @ work ;) | |
| 18:03 | wizzyrea | alert, alert, bofh! |
| 18:03 | j/k :) | |
| 18:03 | and no - sorry I've been rushing around all week like a crazy person. | |
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| 18:04 | * wizzyrea | waves towards the himalayas |
| 18:04 | Shane-S | okay, I just want to fix it if it does break, but I don't forsee that as all I did was add CSS classes |
| 18:07 | Oh what field is book price pulled from? | |
| 18:07 | its is pulled from the item or biblio is better questions | |
| 18:07 | cait | depends where |
| 18:07 | Shane-S | I mean one book could cost $25 and then another cost $10, but both be the same book |
| 18:08 | cait | in circulation from the item, replacement cost |
| 18:08 | Shane-S | well for our needs, in reports |
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| 18:08 | cait | when oyu stage records in ACQ somewhere from the record |
| 18:11 | Shane-S | Anyone know if you can set checkout alerts for content/grade/age level? |
| 18:11 | kyleh | calling all developers: looking for opinions. I'm looking at integrating the koha mobile-phone opac support that stow-munroe has created and I have a simple but important questions: Should the mobile site have separate perl scripts for everything, or should the mobile opac use the standard opac scripts with just a separate set of templates. Stow-Munroe used separte opac scripts, but they are just direct copies of the originals with |
| 18:11 | the template names changed. I'm leaning toward having the mobile site just be another set of templates. That way, we keep the code DRY. I can then engineer a way for koha to use the mobile templates instead of the standard opac templates when the site is reached from a mobile phone ( probably using some apache configuration ). | |
| 18:11 | cait | not yet |
| 18:11 | but there is a bug abou tit | |
| 18:12 | Shane-S: search bugzilla for it - restriction | |
| 18:12 | jcamins | kyleh: separate templates, single scripts. |
| 18:12 | Shane-S | kk will do |
| 18:12 | wizzyrea | kyleh: what jcamins said |
| 18:12 | cait | yep |
| 18:12 | sep templates | |
| 18:13 | oleonard | kyleh: How does the browser detection work? |
| 18:14 | maximep | our opac version is so much more simple : we just did a separate css |
| 18:14 | jcamins | maximep: unfortunately, you can't release it. |
| 18:15 | kyleh | oleanard: I'll figure that part out afterward : ) I'm imagining another section in the apache file for the mobile stuff, and have apache set an environment variable that we can use to tell the template getter to use the mobile templates instead of the standard opac templates. |
| 18:15 | maximep | jcamins: ? I think we will |
| 18:16 | jcamins | maximep: I thought you weren't allowed to release your changes? |
| 18:17 | wizzyrea | that would be cool if you could |
| 18:17 | maximep | client is working hard to enable us to release all our changes |
| 18:18 | cait | jcamins: they already released some things :) |
| 18:18 | jcamins | cait: I know, but I thought there was some sort of contract issue that limited them to the previously-released things. |
| 18:18 | oleonard | maximep's approach is the one I have been advocating |
| 18:18 | jcamins | oleonard: I thought you were advocating an entirely new template? |
| 18:19 | cait | can't we do both? :) |
| 18:19 | oleonard | jcamins: I think it can be made even more flexible if we rebuild using a different CSS framework |
| 18:19 | jcamins: But the principle is the same: different CSS being applied at different viewport widths | |
| 18:19 | jcamins | oleonard: I see. |
| 18:20 | maximep | really only 2 lines + css |
| 18:20 | jcamins | maximep: that's very cool. It'd be awesome if you could release it. :) |
| 18:21 | maximep | I think it's planned |
| 18:21 | not finished yet | |
| 18:21 | jcamins | maximep: that's okay... there's nothing wrong with sharing work-in-progress. Just use a public git repository. |
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| 18:30 | alaquerre | Another question for everyone : When we do the acquisition, is it possible to see the item fields on placing order + reception ? Couple of peoples here would like to have access to items field at each step. ( Placing order : select budget, document type. On reception : place barcode, price etc. ) We currently need to use one or the other... |
| 18:32 | cait | alaquerre: not yet |
| 18:32 | but that's in the works | |
| 18:32 | alaquerre: there is a patch waiting for that to be signed off even I think | |
| 18:32 | alaquerre | Is it done, do you need |
| 18:32 | .. | |
| 18:32 | ok - nice then. | |
| 18:32 | cait | there are some other enhancements in the works to make the items look nicer |
| 18:33 | in acq | |
| 18:33 | let me find it for you :) | |
| 18:33 | alaquerre | ok |
| 18:33 | cait | bug 3966 |
| 18:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3966 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , receiving items should allow for entering barcode |
| 18:33 | cait | bug 7178 |
| 18:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Improve order item creation |
| 18:33 | oleonard | Lunch time |
| 18:33 | cait | there are screenshots too :) |
| 18:34 | but it looks even better now | |
| 18:34 | mbalmer | Lunch time there, Dinner time here ;) |
| 18:34 | alaquerre | btw : to make sure maximep is saying the truth - We will release mobile opac once it's ready. Let's say in 1 month from now. |
| 18:34 | thanks cait! | |
| 18:35 | cait | alaquerre: cool - perhaps will be in 3.10 :) |
| 18:35 | 3.8 is already so near! | |
| 18:35 | alaquerre | I dont want to put pressure on maximep here :-) |
| 18:36 | maximep | =) |
| 18:38 | dgl-library | I have a question about the Koha "Quick Start": http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ueeze#Quick_Start |
| 18:38 | wizzyrea | shoot |
| 18:38 | alaquerre | cait: that's exacly what we need for the acquisition. Thanks for the help. chow! |
| 18:38 | cait | alaquerre: glad I could help :) |
| 18:39 | dgl-library | wizzyrea: thanks. not hosting this on a domain. strictly local LAN. do I need to specify a domain? |
| 18:40 | as in… DOMAIN=".mydomain.co.nz" | |
| 18:40 | INTRAPORT="80" | |
| 18:40 | INTRAPREFIX="" | |
| 18:40 | INTRASUFFIX="-intra" | |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea | that's a good question, my guess is no |
| 18:40 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea | see, ha |
| 18:40 | jcamins | Sorry, was distracted. |
| 18:40 | Set it to localhost | |
| 18:40 | Take out INTRASUFFIX. | |
| 18:40 | Set INTRAPORT to 8080. | |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea | ok, now I don't feel so dumb, because I was going to suggest that. We really ought to add that to the docs. |
| 18:41 | jcamins | Add Listen 8080 to /etc/apache2/ports.conf. |
| 18:41 | We should, yes. | |
| 18:41 | dgl-library | jcamins: thanks! yes, would be good to have that in the docs |
| 18:41 | where/how do I add Listen 8080 to /etc/apache2/ports.conf? | |
| 18:42 | jcamins | dgl-library: just at the end. After the Listen 8080 |
| 18:42 | Sorry. | |
| 18:42 | After the Listen 80 | |
| 18:42 | dgl-library | what about INTRAPREFIX? |
| 18:43 | jcamins | leave that blank as well. |
| 18:43 | dgl-library | and I leave INTRASUFFIX blank, or remove the whole line? |
| 18:44 | wizzyrea | dgl if you refresh |
| 18:44 | you should see the changes | |
| 18:44 | to the wiki | |
| 18:44 | wahanui | to the wiki is, like, best, when it's there |
| 18:44 | jcamins | dgl-library: you leave that blank. |
| 18:44 | wizzyrea | jcamins, please proof ;) |
| 18:44 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ueeze#Quick_Start | |
| 18:45 | dgl-library | wizzyrea: wow, that was fast — nice work! |
| 18:45 | jcamins | Looks good. |
| 18:45 | I think. | |
| 18:45 | Yup, looks right to me. | |
| 18:45 | dgl-library | jcamins: thanks for the info! |
| 18:46 | jcamins | You're welcome. :) |
| 18:48 | It's GSOC application time. | |
| 18:51 | * jcamins | nominates someone else to propose Koha as a mentor organization. |
| 18:52 | * wizzyrea | suggests "cataloging rewrite" |
| 18:52 | wizzyrea | ha ha ha ha ha |
| 18:52 | oh. | |
| 18:54 | jcamins | wizzyrea: will you be our GSOC administrator? :) |
| 18:54 | wizzyrea | sure why not. |
| 18:54 | do we need a vote? | |
| 18:54 | lol. | |
| 18:54 | jcamins | Probably. |
| 18:54 | wizzyrea | nuts. |
| 18:55 | jcamins | Also an application, and a list of ideas, and stuff. |
| 18:55 | wizzyrea | oh well maybe next year |
| 18:55 | jcamins | There's still time. |
| 18:56 | wizzyrea | 4 hours and 17 minutes, to be exact. |
| 18:56 | 15 minutes | |
| 18:56 | jcamins | lol |
| 18:56 | Yup. :) | |
| 18:56 | dgl-library | so the relevant bit of ports.conf should look like this, right? |
| 18:57 | NameVirtualHost *:80 | |
| 18:57 | Listen 80 | |
| 18:57 | Listen 8080 | |
| 18:57 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 18:57 | dgl-library | I don't need to change NameVirtualHost to localhost? |
| 18:57 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 18:57 | dgl-library | great. thanks |
| 18:57 | jcamins | You won't be using name-based virtual hosts. |
| 18:58 | dgl-library | hmm, gedit opened it read-only… |
| 18:58 | wizzyrea | sudo gedit |
| 18:59 | dgl-library | wizzyrea: ok |
| 19:00 | I think I did something wrong in debian, because my user is not in the sudoers file | |
| 19:00 | I always have to use the Root Terminal tool instead (in Gnome) | |
| 19:00 | jcamins | dgl-library: Debian doesn't use sudo by default. You have to add your user to sudoers yourself. |
| 19:01 | dgl-library | ok |
| 19:13 | does everything need to be run as sudo/root, including koha-create? | |
| 19:14 | jcamins | dgl-library: the koha-* commands need to be run as root. |
| 19:14 | dgl-library | thanks |
| 19:15 | not sure if I've run into a snag here or not, but when following the step "sudo a2enmod rewrite" I got this result: | |
| 19:16 | Enabling module rewrite. | |
| 19:16 | Run '/etc/init.d/apache2 restart' to activate new configuration! | |
| 19:16 | dgllibrary-server:~$ /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
|
| 19:16 | Restarting web server: apache2apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName | |
| 19:16 | apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName | |
| 19:16 | (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80 | |
| 19:16 | (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 | |
| 19:16 | no listening sockets available, shutting down | |
| 19:16 | Unable to open logs | |
| 19:16 | Action 'start' failed. | |
| 19:16 | The Apache error log may have more information. | |
| 19:16 | failed! | |
| 19:16 | I mean, I got that result when I ran the command: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart | |
| 19:17 | jcamins | That has to be run with sudo. |
| 19:17 | wizzyrea | anytime you restart apache it has to be done as sudo or root |
| 19:18 | well anytime you touch the apache config, really | |
| 19:19 | dgl-library | I see |
| 19:21 | I guess that worked… the result was: Restarting web server: apache2apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName | |
| 19:21 | ... waiting apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName | |
| 19:21 | jcamins | Yeah, that's fine. |
| 19:21 | dgl-library | great |
| 19:22 | do I have to run "koha-create --create-db mylibrary" from within a certain directory? | |
| 19:22 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 19:22 | Just with sudo. | |
| 19:22 | Or as root. | |
| 19:24 | dgl-library | does this look successful? |
| 19:24 | cat: /etc/koha/passwd: No such file or directory | |
| 19:24 | Koha instance is empty, no staff user created. | |
| 19:24 | Enabling site dgllibrary. | |
| 19:24 | Run '/etc/init.d/apache2 reload' to activate new configuration! | |
| 19:24 | Restarting web server: apache2apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName | |
| 19:24 | wahanui | i already had it that way, dgl-library. |
| 19:24 | dgl-library | ... waiting apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName |
| 19:24 | . | |
| 19:24 | Starting Zebra server for dgllibrary | |
| 19:25 | jcamins | Looks like you're all set up. :) |
| 19:25 | dgl-library | :) :) |
| 19:27 | one more question about localhost — if I'm eventually going to set a specific IP address for the koha server so other machines on the LAN can access it, would I enter that ip address as DOMAIN= or is it still localhost? | |
| 19:27 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 19:27 | I don't think it matters. | |
| 19:28 | You just have to modify the Apache config file to listen on the correct address. | |
| 19:28 | dgl-library | ok. my guess would also have been that I don't need to mess with it. |
| 19:28 | jcamins | (the config file is /etc/apache2/sites/sites-available/dgllibrary ) |
| 19:28 | dgl-library | but apache is on the same box as koha (and mysql), so isn't it still localhost? |
| 19:29 | jcamins | dgl-library: you need to modify that file if you want Apache to listen on a particular address that isn't localhost. |
| 19:29 | That was a note for the future, not an instruction. | |
| 19:30 | dgl-library | ah, gotcha |
| 19:30 | ok, signing off for now. thanks so much jcamins and wizzyrea for so patiently walking me through this! | |
| 19:33 | jcamins | Here's a weird one. |
| 19:33 | A system that I've been happily using all day just gave me this error: Global symbol "$borrowernumber" requires explicit package name at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/addbooks.pl line 75. | |
| 19:34 | cait | hm |
| 19:34 | jcamins | It's an easy workaround. |
| 19:34 | Don't use that page. | |
| 19:34 | That's why I didn't notice it before. I rarely go to the cataloguing home page. | |
| 19:38 | oleonard | jcamins: Any idea what the cause is? It doesn't happen to me |
| 19:38 | jcamins | oleonard: none. This isn't master. |
| 19:38 | That's two different thoughts. | |
| 19:39 | My guess would be the C4-decycling. | |
| 19:40 | I would also guess that when I update the problem will go away. | |
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| 19:44 | dgl-library | jcamins: sorry, back for a quick question. after a reboot, I see I now have a new unix user called something like "koha instance dgllibrary" … Is there ever a reason why I should log in as that user, such as when I do the web setup? (I don't remember picking a password, btw) |
| 19:44 | jcamins | dgl-library: no, never. |
| 19:45 | dgl-library | ok. thanks for clarifying that. |
| 19:45 | adios for now — signing off again | |
| 19:49 | oleonard | nengard around? |
| 19:50 | nengard | yes |
| 19:50 | oleonard | In what browser are you seeing Bug 7693? |
| 19:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7693 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , clear screen button misaligned |
| 19:50 | nengard | firefox |
| 19:50 | on mac | |
| 19:50 | oleonard | Firefox 10.x? |
| 19:52 | nengard | is that the most recent? :) |
| 19:52 | oleonard | Yes. 10.0.2 is what I have. |
| 19:55 | nengard | then yes |
| 20:02 | * jcamins | heads home early. |
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| 20:25 | mbalmer | paul_p? |
| 20:25 | wahanui | paul_p is the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee. |
| 20:29 | mbalmer | bah |
| 20:36 | maximep | maximep? |
| 20:36 | wahanui | I LIKE PLAYING DRUMS AND METAL MUSIC |
| 20:37 | maximep | AND SCREAMING AT YOU |
| 20:39 | bag | mtj? |
| 20:39 | wahanui | DeM KraZy NutZ!! |
| 20:39 | bag | heh |
| 20:39 | @wunder 93109 | |
| 20:39 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 27.1°C (12:38 PM PST on March 09, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:39 | bag | yeah it's HOT here |
| 20:39 | maximep | @wunder cyqc |
| 20:39 | huginn | maximep: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 20:39 | bag | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 20:39 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on March 10, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:39 | maximep | @wunder CYQC |
| 20:39 | huginn | maximep: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 20:39 | maximep | arg |
| 20:39 | @wunder CYQB | |
| 20:39 | huginn | maximep: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -2.0°C (3:00 PM EST on March 09, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:40 | maximep | beautiful day and kind of warm here |
| 20:41 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence ks |
| 20:41 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 16.2°C (2:40 PM CST on March 09, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:41 | wizzyrea | not bad :) |
| 20:41 | pretty nice really | |
| 20:42 | bag | yup but doesn't compare with 27!!! |
| 20:42 | heh | |
| 20:42 | sekjal | @wunder 01373 |
| 20:42 | huginn | sekjal: The current temperature in Plain Road East, South Deerfield, Massachusetts is 5.7°C (3:04 PM EST on March 09, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:43 | bag | ouch another crushing defeat for SB! |
| 20:43 | maximep | 27 is ridiculous |
| 20:43 | -2 is good enough for me | |
| 20:43 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 20:43 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 7.0°C (3:40 PM EST on March 09, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | 16's really not bad. Pretty nice. |
| 20:43 | bag | darn another win :) |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | 27 is getting close to "too warm" |
| 20:43 | bag | for early spring :) |
| 20:43 | oleonard | More like Quebec than Kansas here today |
| 20:43 | bag | but today will probably be the hotest day or the year :) |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | well, to be fair kansas is unseasonably warm :) |
| 20:44 | bag | s/or/of |
| 20:44 | @gcalc 27 in F | |
| 20:44 | huginn | bag: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
| 20:44 | bag | heh |
| 20:45 | maximep | @gcalc 27C in F |
| 20:45 | huginn | maximep: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
| 20:45 | maximep | wuuuuuuut |
| 20:45 | 80.6 | |
| 20:46 | oleonard | @gcalc 27 c in fahrenheit |
| 20:46 | huginn | oleonard: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
| 20:46 | oleonard | Hunh, works in Google. |
| 20:47 | bag | @gcalc 27 degrees Celsius in Fahrenheit |
| 20:47 | huginn | bag: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
| 20:47 | bag | stupid |
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| 20:49 | maximep | @gcalc 2+2 |
| 20:49 | huginn | maximep: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
| 20:49 | maximep | right. |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | 2+2 |
| 20:49 | oleonard | 2+2? |
| 20:49 | wahanui | 4 |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | there it is |
| 20:49 | maximep | 2+2*2? |
| 20:49 | wahanui | 6 |
| 20:49 | oleonard | 27 degrees Celsius in Fahrenheit? |
| 20:50 | maximep | nice |
| 20:50 | most people get 2+2*2 wrong | |
| 20:50 | oleonard | 2+(7-3*9)+4/3? |
| 20:50 | wahanui | -16.6666666666667 |
| 20:50 | oleonard | That's what I thought too. |
| 20:53 | maximep | pretty good |
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| 21:37 | sekjal | looks like the weekend has begun |
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| 21:41 | sekjal | later, #koha! |
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| 22:34 | magnus_afk | g'night #koha! |
| 22:34 | wizzyrea | ! you are not in bed already? |
| 22:34 | magnus_away | nope, not quite |
| 22:34 | * wizzyrea | shoos you that way |
| 22:34 | magnus_away | 11.30 pm here though |
| 22:34 | yeah, yeah i'm gone now :-) | |
| 22:34 | * wizzyrea | nods |
| 22:34 | wizzyrea | I figured! |
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| 22:58 | wizzyrea | woot! time to go! |
| 22:58 | later | |
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| 23:07 | bag | bug 7402 |
| 23:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7402 normal, P3, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , invoice not showing received titles |
| 23:07 | bag | bug 7420 |
| 23:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7420 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Add max fines to circulation matrix |
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