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| 00:03 | nengard joined #koha | |
| 00:03 | jcamins_away | Okay, that's done. |
| 00:04 | Time for dinner and Star Trek. | |
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| 00:04 | jcamins_away | Good night, #koha. |
| 00:08 | Shane-S_ | I am off myself...time to relax...I spent my day off learning how to install...no wait... jcamins_away basically installed it...koha :) |
| 00:09 | Shane-S | and now system 2 :P bye all! |
| 01:34 | melia left #koha | |
| 01:45 | Space_Librarian | hello you lovely people - I've a silly question. |
| 01:46 | what do our patrons need to select to be notified of holds placed? | |
| 01:46 | jcamins_away | I blame the Oompa Loompas. |
| 01:46 | ^^ silly answer | |
| 01:46 | Space_Librarian | I blame Storm Troopers |
| 01:47 | :) | |
| 01:47 | ibeardslee | I was going to say 'pumpkin soup' |
| 01:47 | jcamins_away | I'm not sure. |
| 01:47 | Space_Librarian | Apparently no notification/confirmation of hold placed really is a big issue. |
| 01:47 | Trying to firefight and educate | |
| 01:48 | ibeardslee | use the gassy end of the fire estinguisher to fight the fire and the heavy blunt end to educate |
| 01:48 | extinguisher | |
| 01:48 | Space_Librarian | that's the plan |
| 01:55 | seriously though. I've read the manual, and I've tweaked what I can. I know there's an email for holds to pick up, but is there one to confirm holds placed? | |
| 01:56 | jcamins_away | Space_Librarian: I'm not sure. |
| 01:56 | Space_Librarian | glad it ain't just me... :) |
| 01:56 | jcamins_away | I don't think about circ much. |
| 01:57 | Space_Librarian | ping rangi - do you, oh oracle, know the answer? |
| 02:23 | mtj | Space_Librarian: you want an email every time you place a hold? |
| 02:24 | s/you/a person/ :) | |
| 02:25 | i think that may be a missing feature, currently....? :/ and hi! :) | |
| 02:26 | Space_Librarian | The patron wants a confirmation email. The library email was getting spammed. |
| 02:26 | And hi! | |
| 02:26 | mtj | aaah, so the feature is there-ish... |
| 02:27 | but the trick is to use the patrons email, not the default library-admin one | |
| 02:27 | or both emails (of course) | |
| 02:31 | Space_Librarian | and how would be do that? |
| 02:34 | mtj | hmmm, i might have to pass on that Q the mo :/ i'm in the middle of something |
| 02:35 | its been a while since i looked at the email/notices stuff | |
| 02:37 | try the Koha list first? , its possible someone has a workaround already | |
| 02:40 | Space_Librarian | tis... :) |
| 02:40 | jcamins | I'm still trying to figure out why on earth someone would want that. |
| 02:41 | Space_Librarian | heavens knows. |
| 02:41 | these are accountants | |
| 02:42 | jcamins | How does one do a class constant in Perl? |
| 02:43 | Does one do class constants in Perl? | |
| 02:43 | Is this a profoundly bad idea? | |
| 02:44 | * jcamins | is trying to centralize the single invisible pixel gif. |
| 02:45 | jcamins | Sorry, I didn't mean class constant. I meant package constant, apparently. |
| 02:47 | I want to be able to have the following line work from scripts: print C4::Images->noimage; | |
| 02:48 | Space_Librarian | And can we rename "public list" to something else? |
| 02:48 | * Space_Librarian | is going to go postal at people at work soon. |
| 02:49 | jcamins | Space_Librarian: you could use jQuery. |
| 02:49 | Or a translation. | |
| 02:49 | wahanui | a translation is done through the pref files |
| 02:49 | Space_Librarian | I need something quick and dirty for now. These people are being real pendants |
| 02:50 | jcamins | Space_Librarian: it could be done using jQuery, but I don't know off the top of my head the jQuery that would be necessary. |
| 02:50 | What do they want them called? | |
| 02:50 | Oh, I can just do a sub that doesn't take any arguments. | |
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| 02:51 | Space_Librarian | They want it called "Informed Professional" |
| 02:52 | jcamins | Space_Librarian: what? |
| 02:52 | Space_Librarian: that was a shocked "what?" not an "I didn't hear you" what. | |
| 02:52 | Space_Librarian | The public list. They want it to be renamed "The Informed Professional" |
| 02:52 | Yes. I know. | |
| 02:53 | This has been a day of stupidity. | |
| 02:53 | And apparently I can make it all just so. | |
| 02:53 | jcamins | heh. |
| 02:53 | Gotta love go-lives. | |
| 02:53 | Space_Librarian | Just because I can read code, doesn't mean I can code. |
| 02:53 | And we've been live for a while. | |
| 02:56 | * jcamins | has learned that he's not actually very good at Scrabble. |
| 02:57 | jcamins | wizzyrea started out with twice my score, and she's maintained that... unfortunately, this means that she's now *way* ahead of me. |
| 02:58 | wizzyrea | actually, it has more to do with uh, leaving those triple word squares open :p |
| 02:58 | jcamins | I'm not trying! |
| 02:58 | I mean, I'm not trying to leave them open. | |
| 02:58 | I just have no choice. | |
| 02:59 | eythian | Space_Librarian: that should be easy to change with jquery |
| 02:59 | assuming it's got the IDs on the bits that say 'public list' | |
| 02:59 | wizzyrea | and if there are no id's, we could add some for you :P |
| 02:59 | * wizzyrea | imagines id's on bits. giggles. |
| 03:00 | eythian | you can just do $("#theidofthething").setText("Informed Potato"); in the opacuserjs |
| 03:00 | * jcamins | giggles at the Informed Potato suggestion. |
| 03:01 | * wizzyrea | informs your potato |
| 03:01 | Space_Librarian | Well, I need to know where to go first. Pretty pissed off that they're demanding this now, with no previous warning, an hour before releasing the bulletin. |
| 03:02 | And I got into serious trouble for questioning the reasons for why this needs to be done anyway. | |
| 03:02 | * Space_Librarian | rolls eyes |
| 03:02 | eythian | Why don't they just call the list "Informed Professional - March 2012", that way public lists can be used for other things. |
| 03:03 | (I assume that's how they're intending to use it, right?) | |
| 03:03 | wizzyrea | Space_Librarian: gimme a sec |
| 03:03 | Space_Librarian | because there are several small public lists that comprise the Informed Professional. |
| 03:04 | And your argument, eythian, was my argument | |
| 03:04 | eythian | ah I see |
| 03:04 | Space_Librarian | sometimes the stupidity burns. |
| 03:04 | where'd that fire extinguisher go? | |
| 03:05 | wizzyrea | so they want it to say "the informed professional" instead of "lists" |
| 03:05 | just making sure I understand | |
| 03:05 | or instead of "public lists" *under* lists | |
| 03:07 | Space_Librarian | wizzyrea: yes |
| 03:08 | preferably both, but since nobody can see the private lists, lists would be informed professional | |
| 03:19 | wizzyrea | Space_Librarian: try $("h4:contains('Public Lists')").html("The Informed Professional"); |
| 03:20 | not as specific as I would like but the id's are slightly sparse there. | |
| 03:20 | mtj | jcamins: ps: i sorted my ajax template/translate problems nicely :) |
| 03:20 | jcamins | mtj: excellent! |
| 03:20 | mtj | was an easy solution, after a little thought |
| 03:21 | jcamins | Oh? |
| 03:21 | mtj | and you were on the right track too - define a JS function in the .tt file |
| 03:22 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 03:22 | mtj | so, the js function just gets translated with everything else in the template |
| 03:22 | pretty obv. really :) | |
| 03:23 | jcamins | I have tried the fancy git PS1. |
| 03:23 | I don't like it. | |
| 03:24 | wizzyrea | ps1? |
| 03:24 | jcamins | Prompt. |
| 03:25 | It's slow, and displays incorrect information. | |
| 03:26 | So, not really beneficial here. | |
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| 03:35 | Amit_Gupta | hye bag |
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| 03:52 | jcamins | bag: you might want to consider testing bug 7092. I use a different ICU configuration than ByWater. |
| 03:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7092 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Signed Off , Complete-subfield searches TraceCompleteSubfields syspref not working correctly |
| 03:52 | eythian | So as part of my series of rants titled "No proprietary library software can export unambiguously parsable CSV", I now introduce this one that exports as XML. _Invalid_ XML, mind you. |
| 03:52 | jcamins | Well done! |
| 03:53 | wizzyrea | lerd. |
| 03:53 | jcamins | And that's with the "CSV" option? |
| 03:53 | :) | |
| 04:00 | eythian | jcamins: no, it's quite horrible really. The only way we can get data out is by running a report that luckily has an option for XML. |
| 04:00 | I'm going to be relinking items and biblios by using title/author/publication info as there's no unique ID to match them | |
| 04:01 | jcamins | Oh, lovely. |
| 04:01 | * druthb | shudders. |
| 04:02 | eythian | yeah. |
| 04:02 | I'm hoping that over the next wee while, we eradicate this software from the country. | |
| 04:12 | This one is only in use in a handful of places that I know about. | |
| 04:14 | wizzyrea | dare we ask |
| 04:14 | what it is | |
| 04:15 | eythian | .eLM |
| 04:15 | Space_Librarian | lol. ouch |
| 04:16 | eythian | yep. |
| 04:16 | It's a bit of a strange system | |
| 04:17 | jcamins | Okay, I won't be testing oleonard's I18n patches. |
| 04:17 | I can't get the language chooser to display. | |
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| 04:17 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 04:18 | how are you druthb :) | |
| 04:23 | druthb | hi, Oak! I'm well. How are you? |
| 04:25 | Oak | i'm good too. |
| 04:40 | jcamins | Good night -- again -- #koha. |
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| 04:56 | shakazu00 | what is the staff username for koha 3.64 |
| 04:57 | eythian | shakazu00: depends how you installed it really |
| 04:58 | probably kohaadmin is what you want | |
| 04:59 | shakazu00 | when it rebooted to login screen I tried kohaadmin and did not know the password |
| 05:00 | eythian | katikoha? |
| 05:00 | I forget what the default is, but it might be that | |
| 05:01 | shakazu00 | okay I am going to try that.but I am I not sure that's that it |
| 05:03 | eythian | well, have a look in your koha-conf.xml |
| 05:03 | it's in there, near the bottom | |
| 05:03 | the username/password for the database will log you in to koha as a superuser | |
| 05:03 | shakazu00 | login kohaadmin password katikoha does not work for the staff client |
| 05:04 | eythian | then look in koha-conf.xml |
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| 05:06 | shakazu00 | I do not see anything near the bottom. I am trying use the staff client login and not the supervisor when I install the system |
| 05:07 | eythian | the bottom of the koha-conf.xml |
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| 05:57 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 06:03 | eythian | hi cait |
| 06:04 | cait | hi eythian |
| 06:04 | still at work? | |
| 06:04 | eythian | yep |
| 06:05 | Oak | Guten Morgen miss cait :) |
| 06:05 | hello Mr. Robin | |
| 06:05 | cait | hi mr Oak |
| 06:05 | Oak | what's new cait |
| 06:05 | cait | where have you been hiding? :) |
| 06:05 | Oak | exams! |
| 06:06 | now have to do a project, and it *must* be some practical work in a library | |
| 06:06 | cait | oh |
| 06:06 | eythian | Oak: howdy |
| 06:06 | wahanui | niihau, eythian |
| 06:06 | cait | and do you have a project? |
| 06:06 | Oak | i was thinking how about pick a small library and get them to start using Koha... |
| 06:07 | I am meeting my project supervisor today and another management guy from university to discuss that | |
| 06:07 | i mean to discuss the possibilities | |
| 06:09 | cait | cool idea :) |
| 06:11 | Oak | if i can get a decent computer from the library (the one i'll get to start using Koha), and set up Koha in say one week (installed, tested), then I could start cataloging, and say I catalog 2000 books using copy catalog, *that* should count as a project... that's what I want to discuss. |
| 06:12 | but about the acquisitions module and other modules, plus the training of staff etc, i'm not clear about these things. | |
| 06:12 | cait | hm perhaps circulation training |
| 06:12 | cataloging + circulation + opac | |
| 06:12 | Oak | also, i'm no Koha expert. but you are all here, and manuals Wikis are there. so. that's why i am considering it |
| 06:13 | hmmm. | |
| 06:14 | and can Koha + 2000 books + cataloging, circulation, opac be done in 2 months if I work all day on it (~8 hours), asked my boss that I'll work in night time... | |
| 06:15 | cait | I think configuration is not so hard |
| 06:15 | and telling them how to do it should not be much more | |
| 06:15 | probably the cataloging | |
| 06:15 | will take longest | |
| 06:15 | but when you catalog, it#s good to know how they want to circulate the items later, so you catalog with the right itemtypes and such | |
| 06:16 | Oak | hmm |
| 06:17 | well, i'll be doing this in morning time... so i'll have all day to work on this for next 2 months... i think it is doable... | |
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| 06:19 | Oak | is it doable? or am i being to optimistic in giving it 2 months? |
| 06:19 | too* | |
| 06:21 | cait | it perhaps depends on how much you know already |
| 06:21 | Oak | i guess it depends on the person's skill level |
| 06:21 | cait | about Koha |
| 06:21 | Oak | yes |
| 06:21 | cait | hard to tell for m |
| 06:21 | Oak | i don't know much |
| 06:22 | cait | but you know how to install koha |
| 06:22 | Oak | yup |
| 06:22 | cait | hm |
| 06:23 | perhaps talk to your advisor | |
| 06:23 | what they expect | |
| 06:23 | Oak | yes, that should be done first |
| 06:24 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 06:24 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 3.0°C (7:00 AM CET on March 08, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:24 | cait | hm warmer than yesterday |
| 06:24 | was around 0 | |
| 06:25 | Oak | good :) |
| 06:28 | by the way, the library i am considering are not using any ILS at all. they have a website, but no online access to library resources, obviously... | |
| 06:28 | @wunder islamabad | |
| 06:28 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 18.0°C (11:00 AM PKT on March 08, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
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| 06:55 | cait | hi laurence and sophie_m :) |
| 06:55 | laurence | hi cait |
| 06:59 | sophie_m | hello cait |
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| 07:26 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
| 07:26 | cait | morning magnuse :) |
| 07:26 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
| 07:28 | cait | t |
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| 07:42 | magnuse | hiya mbalmer |
| 07:43 | mbalmer | m'rning |
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| 07:46 | cait | hi mbalmer |
| 07:46 | and bbiab | |
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| 07:54 | julian_m | hi |
| 07:56 | reiveune | bonjour |
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| 08:02 | reiveune | eythian , rangi : Hi , I work to rebuild bug5905 (Partial fine payments and Means Of Payment). Henri-Damien Laurent told me that perhaps you were working on a similar development that will make obsolete the mine. is this true? |
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| 08:04 | francharb | morning #koha |
| 08:09 | hdl1 | hi |
| 08:10 | hdl | eythian: rangi iirc, you did work on payment and fines refactoring code and so on. has it been pushed ? Or is it still ongoing ? |
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| 08:11 | asaurat | hi |
| 08:11 | wahanui | bonjour, asaurat |
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| 08:11 | kf | hi again #koha |
| 08:11 | magnuse | wb kf |
| 08:11 | and congratulations! | |
| 08:15 | kf | for making it to work? :) |
| 08:15 | magnuse | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I[…]nal_Women%27s_Day |
| 08:16 | kf | oh |
| 08:16 | um | |
| 08:16 | thank you? | |
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| 08:20 | magnuse | kf: it's sort of a big thing here - everyone is supposed to congratulate all women :-) |
| 08:22 | kf | well, guess you will be busy then today |
| 08:22 | clrh | hello |
| 08:22 | wahanui | bonjour, clrh |
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| 08:23 | kf | magnuse: your next victim ;) |
| 08:23 | magnuse | bonjour and congratulations, clrh! |
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| 08:24 | kf | sophie_m fled |
| 08:24 | :P | |
| 08:25 | clrh | magnuse: hello but why? |
| 08:25 | about what? | |
| 08:25 | magnuse | clrh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I[…]nal_Women%27s_Day |
| 08:25 | :-) | |
| 08:25 | clrh | erf |
| 08:25 | kf | lol |
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| 08:31 | magnuse | kia ora paul_p |
| 08:34 | kf | hi paul_p |
| 08:49 | magnuse | hey hdl and paul_p and others - would it be an idea to call the hackfest-in-marseille-week a "global bug squashing week"? |
| 08:50 | paul_p | magnuse why not. As it was started by BibLibre and I didn't wanted to seem to overlap with KohaCon or "community meetings" I called it hackfest in Marseille, but it's not a trademark ;-) |
| 08:50 | magnuse last number = we will be 32 for this hackfest :D :D | |
| 08:50 | magnuse | hehe |
| 08:50 | wow, very cool! | |
| 08:51 | how many were we last year? | |
| 08:51 | paul_p | around 17 iirc |
| 08:51 | (32 we will be a little bit short on space...) | |
| 08:51 | magnuse | i was thinking more a week to encourage people to sign off etc, than re-branding the hackfest |
| 08:51 | yeah, you need lots of chairs and electrical outlets ;-) | |
| 08:52 | paul_p | magnuse very good idea because i've a mail to send about the timing for 3.8, and feature freeze will be short after the hackfest |
| 08:52 | magnuse | cool |
| 08:53 | if you send your mail first i can send one about gbsw? | |
| 08:53 | paul_p | yep. it's on the top of my todo list... |
| 08:53 | magnuse | yay :-) |
| 08:53 | paul_p | something about an invoice of 20k€ to do first though ;-) |
| 08:54 | magnuse | sending it out? nice! |
| 08:57 | i bet someone is happy now that bug 7284 is pushed :-) | |
| 08:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
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| 09:01 | kf | magnuse: oh he is very happy :) |
| 09:01 | paul_p: we were discussing collecting ideas for the bug sqashing week on the wiki | |
| 09:02 | paul_p: perhaps get some people involved that are not in marseille | |
| 09:03 | ok | |
| 09:03 | meeting time | |
| 09:03 | wahanui | i think meeting time is always going to favour one section of the globe |
| 09:03 | kf | bbl |
| 09:04 | paul_p | kf nope, it's not exactly about an invoice to send, it's about an invoice I'd like to send since 2010, and the library still tries to refuse/ask for waiting. It's a crazy project. Really crazy, i never saw a IT staff & managers so ... silly/stupid Really ! (the librarians are smart, but they don't have the money) |
| 09:04 | (well, it was not for kf but for magnuse ;-) ) | |
| 09:04 | magnuse | :-) |
| 09:05 | and ouch | |
| 09:09 | slef | ah it was a meeting last night. Oops. |
| 09:13 | magnuse | slef: ? |
| 09:14 | slef | wasn't it? |
| 09:14 | magnuse | not that i know of |
| 09:14 | there is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng,_21_March_2012 | |
| 09:17 | jcamins++ for signing off 7092 | |
| 09:21 | slef | ah, automatic calendar fail :) |
| 09:21 | debian mysql "SECURITY UPDATE: Unspecified vulnerabilities identified by Oracle" | |
| 09:21 | oracle-- | |
| 09:23 | magnuse | this was quite interesting: http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/194 "MySQL And MariaDB" |
| 09:23 | interview with monty widenius | |
| 09:25 | slef | I'm not sure if I heard it, but yes, time to move if oracle-- are going to keep pulling cunning stunts like that |
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| 09:35 | paul_p | good morning slef = any news about the KohaCon12 schedule ? |
| 09:46 | slef | paul_p: nothing further than what's on the wiki. |
| 09:47 | paul_p | slef which is a little bit small. when do you plan to organize the schedule ? (Because it's only 3 month from now) |
| 09:48 | hdl | rangi: has something happened to : bywater/wr78012 branch ? |
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| 09:49 | dgl_library | hello everyone! |
| 09:49 | I'm trying to set up Koha at a small school library and have found a couple of strange problems | |
| 09:50 | I wonder if someone knows what's going on… | |
| 09:50 | I'm using the Koha Virtual Appliance, "unconfigured version" | |
| 09:50 | now updated to 3.6.04 | |
| 09:50 | and there is no button for Add Items | |
| 09:50 | also, there are no options under Patrons > More > Set Privileges | |
| 09:51 | slef | paul_p: ASAP. Patches welcome. |
| 09:51 | dgl_library | however if I manually navigate to http://ip-address:8080/cgi-bin[…]guing/addbooks.pl I do get the Add Items dialogue. |
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| 10:19 | dgl_library | hi everyone, is there anyone here who might be able to shed some light on the Koha problem I'm having? |
| 10:23 | magnuse | julian_m: i'm looking at bug 6440 now! thanks for the followup! |
| 10:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Koha's OAI-PMH does not support sets |
| 10:24 | julian_m | magnuse, wow, I wasn't expecting a response as quickly as that :) |
| 10:25 | magnuse | :-) |
| 10:30 | hdl | dgl_library: have you looked at logs ? have you tried setting DebugLevel to 1 ? What Configuration ? |
| 10:31 | never encountered the problem you spot. | |
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| 10:35 | slef | errr, tourist tax??? |
| 10:35 | that's a new one on me | |
| 10:38 | dgl_library | @hdl: haven't looked at logs (where?), haven't set DebugLevel to 1. Configuration is Koha Virtual Appliance (Unconfigured version), which is Koha 3.6.04 running (inside a virtual OS) on Debian Squeeze |
| 10:38 | huginn | dgl_library: downloading the Perl source |
| 10:38 | dgl_library | huginn: are you saying I should compile from source? |
| 10:38 | huginn | dgl_library: I suck |
| 10:38 | hdl | dgl_library: huggin is a bot |
| 10:39 | dgl_library | hdl: thanks for the tip. |
| 10:40 | hdl: debug level was already set to show "lots of" info | |
| 10:40 | hdl | dgl_library: can't help much, unless you really try and spot more detailed process and log information. try and file a bug. |
| 10:40 | slef | dgl_library: you put @ in front of hdl, huginn thinks any @s are for it. |
| 10:40 | dgl_library | slef: oops. |
| 10:41 | slef | dgl_library: live+learn |
| 10:41 | dgl_library | hdl: where can I find the related process/log info? |
| 10:41 | hdl | look at /var/log/apache2/error.log |
| 10:42 | slef | dgl_library: look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ for a koha file that will have various Log locations. Or try the default that hdl just mentioned :) |
| 10:42 | hdl | or your vhost koha apache logs. |
| 10:42 | magnuse | paul_p: i just triggered a dtabase update, and the html codes in the 7284 show: i'm seeing the <b> and <a> in the web installer (not viewing source, but on the page) |
| 10:42 | paul_p | magnuse yep, kf noticed that in the bug 7284 |
| 10:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 10:42 | magnuse | ah, ok |
| 10:44 | dgl_library | hdl and slef: here's the thing… in the virtual debian in the virtual appliance, I'm not sure how to do anything outside koha, because there's no desktop such as gnome. the entire window is taken up by the koha management console. |
| 10:45 | aha… | |
| 10:45 | got a command line by quitting koha, I suppose that's a start | |
| 10:48 | slef | dgl_library: not sure what a koha management console is :) |
| 10:48 | dgl_library | slef: hmm, what do you see on your server when koha is running? |
| 10:49 | slef: at this end it looks like DOS or SSH terminal program… just text. it shows the IP address of Koha. | |
| 10:52 | slef | dgl_library: login prompt, or whatever we're doing on it. |
| 10:52 | dgl_library | slef: it says "-bash: cd: /var/log/apache2/: Permission denied" |
| 10:52 | slef | dgl_library: sudo -i, then you will be the superuser and have all permissions, but tread carefully |
| 10:54 | dgl_library | sorry for the noob question, but I've accessed the folder. now how do I view the error log? |
| 11:03 | slef | dgl_library: less error.log # or similar |
| 11:04 | dgl_library: or instead of less, you can use more or pg or view or ... there's more than one way to do it | |
| 11:04 | dgl_library: I think the works-on-all-debian-way is: sensible-pager error.log # but that's a lot of typing | |
| 11:04 | (please excuse delays, I am at work) | |
| 11:05 | dgl_library | slef: no problem at all, thanks so much for taking the time. trying that now. |
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| 11:07 | dgl_library | ok, looking at the log now. not sure there's a way to copy and paste from the virtual machine, but I'm seeing one error repeated a lot: authorities.pl: Argument "68a" in numeric ge …… blah blah ...... in authorities.pl line 263 |
| 11:08 | same with Argument "68b" | |
| 11:09 | slef | well, locate authorities.pl might tell you where it is, then cd to its folder and less +263 authorities.pl will open it to the right line. I don't recognise that error but my memory is bad. |
| 11:10 | or you could maybe find the version on git.koha-community.org and find authorities.pl in it and then give us a link to the line | |
| 11:10 | ah, but have you looked at the end of the log file (press > if you used less) | |
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| 11:13 | dgl_library | the log file is huge |
| 11:14 | several more errors | |
| 11:16 | went to git but can't seem to locate the actual files, so will try in debian here | |
| 11:16 | wizzyrea | in git you look for "tree" |
| 11:16 | it looks just like the file system under there. | |
| 11:17 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6090] empty mails in message_queue are sent <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6090> |
| 11:17 | slef | wizzyrea: but first you need the right version, I think. |
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| 11:17 | wizzyrea | ah I made a bad assumption, I assumed they went to git.koha-community.org and couldn't find the files |
| 11:18 | slef | wizzyrea: good assumption |
| 11:18 | wizzyrea: but he's using 3.6.4 | |
| 11:18 | dgl_library: the skill is figuring out which error is breaking you :-/ | |
| 11:19 | wizzyrea | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b79d5b4f44b194913 |
| 11:20 | what was the original problem? | |
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| 11:20 | dgl_library | can I paste code here? |
| 11:20 | hdl | dgl_library: use pastebin.koha-community.org |
| 11:21 | sturmtruppen | q |
| 11:22 | slef | wizzyrea: the original problem was that something created the universe. It's all gone downhill from there. |
| 11:22 | wizzyrea | dgl sounds like perhaps your database has something gone funky |
| 11:22 | * wizzyrea | reads the log |
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| 11:37 | dgl_library | sorry, connectivity problems -- we're in the middle of nowhere |
| 11:37 | http://mibpaste.com/GBB2jt | |
| 11:37 | that's the relevant code from authorities.pl | |
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| 11:42 | wizzyrea | what was the original problem? |
| 11:42 | the first question? | |
| 11:42 | wahanui | i heard the first question was "What are you trying to do?" |
| 11:42 | slef | the original problem? |
| 11:43 | wahanui: the original problem was that something created the universe and it's all gone downhill from there. | |
| 11:43 | wahanui | slef: what? |
| 11:43 | slef | wahanui: the original problem is that something created the universe and it's all gone downhill from there. |
| 11:43 | wahanui | OK, slef. |
| 11:43 | slef | yay tenses! |
| 11:43 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 11:47 | dgl_library | the original problem: strange behavior in our koha admin panel. (hope I'm not answering a bot here) |
| 11:47 | magnus_afk | wizzyrea is definitely not a bot :-) |
| 11:48 | wizzyrea | :) define "strange" |
| 11:49 | magnuse | wizzyrea: http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]12-03-08#i_912572 |
| 11:49 | wizzyrea | ah yea, I go back to my original thesis that something must have gone funny during the db update |
| 11:50 | dgl_library | wizzyrea (I'll take magnus's word you're not a bot if you'll vouch for him as well): the original problem is that I'm trying to set up Koha, using the Koha Virtual Appliance. the problems listed in the link above started before I ever updated — the update was an attempt to rectify the problems |
| 11:50 | wizzyrea | he's not a bot. Only wahanui, huginn, and jenkins are bots |
| 11:51 | dgl_library | no link to Add Items, and no options to Set Privileges under Patrons (Staff) |
| 11:51 | magnuse | and pastebot, i think |
| 11:51 | wizzyrea | what user are you logged in as? |
| 11:51 | dgl_library | kohaadmin |
| 11:51 | wahanui | i guess kohaadmin is the db user |
| 11:51 | wizzyrea | sounds like you have staff permissions, but no rights to do anything else |
| 11:52 | dgl_library | hmm |
| 11:52 | wizzyrea | just to make sure, you are logging into the staff side and not the OPAC |
| 11:52 | ? | |
| 11:52 | dgl_library | definitely am, I can change all kinds of system preferences |
| 11:52 | * wizzyrea | can't sleep, might as well help. |
| 11:52 | dgl_library | and create patrons and all sorts of things |
| 11:53 | wizzyrea | oh, have you defined patron categories? |
| 11:53 | and item types? | |
| 11:53 | dgl_library | yes |
| 11:53 | yes | |
| 11:53 | uh, one sec | |
| 11:53 | item types… let me check | |
| 11:53 | I figured it would be easier to use the unconfigured Koha Virtual Appliance rather than go in and change all the preconfigured settings in the Configured version, but none of these problems exist in the Configured version (same user — kohaadmin) so I must be missing some key step in the setup | |
| 11:53 | wizzyrea | are you trying to use authorities? flipped the pref for "biblio adds authorities" |
| 11:54 | yep, seems likely | |
| 11:54 | dgl_library | haven't done anything about Authorities |
| 11:54 | in fact, the only link under Cataloging is Authorities | |
| 11:54 | and I can't really fully understand what they are, so a bit lost there. but do I need to set up Authorities before I can get the other bits working? | |
| 11:54 | wizzyrea | no no, not necessary |
| 11:54 | dgl_library | brb |
| 11:59 | sorry, back now | |
| 11:59 | I have defined a few item types | |
| 12:00 | Patron types and categories as well | |
| 12:00 | I have tested the Marc frameworks | |
| 12:00 | wizzyrea | anything working better? |
| 12:00 | dgl_library | no, I set all that days ago |
| 12:01 | in fact I followed an implementation checklist I found on the website. still nothing. | |
| 12:01 | wizzyrea | do you have libraries defined? |
| 12:01 | or a library defined | |
| 12:02 | dgl_library | yes, one. but every time I log in, I have to select it manually. |
| 12:02 | wizzyrea | well yea, kohaadmin is the super-superlibrarian |
| 12:02 | dgl_library | also as I mentioned there are no Add Items options in any menu, but if I manually navigate to http://x.x.x.x:8080/cgi-bin/ko[…]guing/addbooks.pl I can see it |
| 12:02 | I see. | |
| 12:02 | wizzyrea | you said you could create patrons - but you can't set permissions on them? |
| 12:03 | dgl_library | I did try to create a standard Staff account for myself, but as I mentioned, one of the problems is that …… yes, exactly. |
| 12:03 | More > Set Permissions shows a button that says "Set Flags" and nothing else | |
| 12:03 | wizzyrea | it doesn't have an error, it just doesn't show? |
| 12:03 | dgl_library | I click it and am returned to the Patron's details screen |
| 12:03 | wizzyrea | ok, go to more -> about koha |
| 12:03 | dgl_library | no error, and no options |
| 12:04 | wizzyrea | click on the Perl Modules tab |
| 12:04 | any missing? | |
| 12:04 | dgl_library | http://mibpaste.com/SlBQGd |
| 12:04 | there's the About info | |
| 12:04 | wizzyrea | click the perl modules tab |
| 12:04 | dgl_library | ah, I see... just a sec |
| 12:05 | Modern::Perl and DateTime::Format::ICal | |
| 12:05 | that should be Modern:: Perl | |
| 12:05 | wizzyrea | hm, that wouldn't cause this problem. |
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| 12:06 | wizzyrea | it has to be that something somewhere is unconfigured. |
| 12:06 | do you have the option to drop this db and install fresh? | |
| 12:06 | dgl_library | well, here's a question from an alternative approach: can I export all my current settings, and then import them into a setup of Koha that works properly (i.e. the Configured version of the Koha Virtual Appliance)? |
| 12:07 | I mean, I've already invested a few days into inputting the settings… I'd at least like to be able to print them out somehow, if I can't export-import them | |
| 12:07 | but yes, I suppose I could. I haven't entered any books yet. | |
| 12:08 | wizzyrea | back up koha? |
| 12:08 | boo | |
| 12:08 | I hoped wahanui had the link for that . :) | |
| 12:08 | back up koha is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Backing_up_Koha | |
| 12:09 | dgl_library | backup koha? |
| 12:09 | wizzyrea | but, all of the config is in the DB |
| 12:09 | dgl_library | of course if the problem is in the way I've configured Koha, backup and restore would most likely get me the same errors, right? |
| 12:09 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 12:09 | what I would probably do | |
| 12:09 | dgl_library | right, that's what you just said |
| 12:10 | wizzyrea | you're in a bit of a sunk cost moment |
| 12:10 | dgl_library | (sinking feeling in stomach) |
| 12:10 | wizzyrea | it would be faster to start over with a few of the sample options defined |
| 12:11 | than to try and fix this, I have a sense. | |
| 12:11 | make sure you get the authorized values, sample patron categories | |
| 12:11 | sample libraries, mmm that's up to you. | |
| 12:12 | the z39.50 servers wouldn't hurt. | |
| 12:12 | sample holidays | |
| 12:12 | dgl_library | the Configured version of the KVA works right out of the box — sample libraries, sample everything. without any setup, I can add books from Z39.50 servers, which are also predefined. |
| 12:12 | wizzyrea | yea, if you just drop the db (and create a new one) in the VM, it should run you through the installer |
| 12:12 | where you can pick | |
| 12:12 | what sample data you want | |
| 12:13 | dgl_library | oh really? |
| 12:13 | I didn't realize that! | |
| 12:13 | wizzyrea | well in standard koha (installed from packages or from the tarball) it does that |
| 12:13 | it stands to reason that it might work in the VM | |
| 12:13 | it's still koha :P | |
| 12:14 | i've not ever used the VM, it's not a vehicle that we normally spend a lot of time supporting here | |
| 12:14 | dgl_library | ……searching for the drop db option…… |
| 12:14 | wizzyrea | (most people use packages) |
| 12:15 | the VM was contributed by someone in the community, and really only they know properly how it works. | |
| 12:15 | dgl_library | I see, the thing is that I was that we ordered a dedicated server, which I was going to install debian on, but it won't arrive til tomorrow, so I've been working on the Koha VA and figured I'd just move the file later to the server |
| 12:15 | didn't realize it was a technical outlier… | |
| 12:15 | perhaps I'll start from scratch on the new server then | |
| 12:16 | wizzyrea | I think you'll be happier in the long run |
| 12:16 | dgl_library | yes, I think you may be right |
| 12:16 | the only thing is Debian… | |
| 12:16 | wizzyrea | ah we can help with that :) |
| 12:16 | dgl_library | by using a virtual appliance, we can run any OS on the machine, and have Debian just for Koha |
| 12:16 | really, help with debian? :) | |
| 12:17 | wizzyrea | there's always virtualbox. |
| 12:17 | i mean, not running a pre-configured koha in a virtualbox | |
| 12:17 | dgl_library | aha! I hadn't thought of setting up everything from scratch *within virtualbox* |
| 12:17 | right! | |
| 12:17 | aren't you clever…… | |
| 12:17 | wizzyrea | >.> |
| 12:17 | <.< | |
| 12:17 | ^.^ | |
| 12:18 | dgl_library | ok, so I've got virtualbox here and the 64-bit debian squeeze gnome install DVD |
| 12:18 | but I have to download it again because there was a file error | |
| 12:18 | anyway, I would install debian+gnome in virtualbox, and then… | |
| 12:19 | wizzyrea | packages? |
| 12:19 | wahanui | package info is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 12:19 | dgl_library | can you please point me to the most reliable and current instructions on how to install koha from packages |
| 12:19 | right | |
| 12:19 | thanks | |
| 12:19 | wizzyrea | yw, pop back if you get stuck. :) |
| 12:20 | dgl_library | thank you — it's so kind of you to help a confused and frustrated small-library volunteer on the other side of the planet :) |
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| 12:21 | deiv | hi everybody |
| 12:21 | slef | dgl_library: which side? we're all over the place... at least in the geographic sense |
| 12:21 | dgl_library | the far side! |
| 12:21 | jcamins_away | slef: we're all over the place in most senses, I think. |
| 12:21 | slef | jcamins_away: speak for yourself ;) |
| 12:21 | dgl_library | haha. well I'm in the middle of nowhere. |
| 12:21 | slef | oh ok, speak for me too |
| 12:22 | wizzyrea | define "middle of nowhere" |
| 12:22 | ;) | |
| 12:22 | slef | dgl_library: I'm on a road to nowhere. Maybe I'll see you there? |
| 12:22 | * wizzyrea | lives in flyover country, USA |
| 12:22 | deiv | i need koha support, who are the person i can talk to? |
| 12:22 | * wizzyrea | looks around |
| 12:22 | dgl_library | slef: takes a while to get here |
| 12:22 | wizzyrea: in the Himalayas | |
| 12:22 | slef | deiv: everyone but trust no-one :) |
| 12:23 | deiv | great |
| 12:23 | wizzyrea | isn't it some strange hour there? |
| 12:23 | dgl_library | by the way, is it ok to install the Gnome environment, or should I just stick to the Debian command-line (which I'd prefer not to do… very limiting to have to do every single thing via the command line) |
| 12:23 | 5:53pm | |
| 12:23 | wizzyrea | hm, not so strange. :) |
| 12:23 | dgl_library | it's the crack of early in flyover country, usa, though, isn't it? |
| 12:23 | wizzyrea | sure it's ok to install gnome. |
| 12:23 | but most instructions will have you doing most everything on the command line | |
| 12:24 | jcamins_away | dgl_library: you can install GNOME, you'll just have to open up a terminal to do things on the command line. |
| 12:24 | wizzyrea | well, yes. 6:30 |
| 12:24 | ish. | |
| 12:24 | slef | jcamins_away: wizzyrea: maybe they know the gnome user admin tools and so on |
| 12:24 | dgl_library | jcamins: that's ok, as long as I still have a mouse and desktop, which will make it easier to copy and paste stuff if I run into problems (like error logs) |
| 12:25 | jcamins_away | Fair enough. |
| 12:25 | deiv | i imported yesterday, in 3.6.4 version, a marc21 example bibliography 650mb big. i downloaded it from the koha-community site |
| 12:25 | wizzyrea | slef: true |
| 12:25 | what did you download exactly (meaning, from what URL?) | |
| 12:26 | jcamins_away | The UMich dataset. |
| 12:26 | * wizzyrea | has not looked at it, where did we procure it from? |
| 12:26 | dgl_library | I'm going to download the debian+gnome install, which will take all night (1.1gb) to download, but if I did want to just try dropping the current db in Koha and then starting over and importing sample data etc, how would I go about it? Where's the Drop DB command? |
| 12:26 | wizzyrea | please link |
| 12:26 | deiv | wizzyrea: wait, i search |
| 12:27 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: it's available on UMich's site. It's much to large to use on anything less than a dedicated server. |
| 12:27 | deiv | http://www.lib.umich.edu/files/umich_bib.marc.gz |
| 12:27 | i found this link on the koha-community wiki | |
| 12:28 | wizzyrea | I usually do mysqladmin -uroot -p drop <name of your koha db> |
| 12:28 | now, don't go doing that if you want anything in there. | |
| 12:28 | you can, before that | |
| 12:28 | deiv | jcamins_away: yes, i got wrong :) |
| 12:28 | wizzyrea | do a mysqldump -uroot -p kohadb > backup.sql |
| 12:28 | jcamins_away | deiv: that is not any sort of endorsement. |
| 12:29 | (that it's on the wiki) | |
| 12:29 | wizzyrea | i follow now. |
| 12:29 | deiv | well wizzyrea, good idea |
| 12:29 | i will do a drop | |
| 12:29 | wizzyrea | no no that was for dgl_library |
| 12:30 | i don't think you've told us your problem yet :P | |
| 12:30 | deiv | exctly |
| 12:30 | exactly | |
| 12:30 | well, my question is: why i cannot see the imported bibliography on the opac? | |
| 12:31 | jcamins_away | searching faq? |
| 12:31 | wahanui | searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 12:31 | jcamins_away | You need to reindex. |
| 12:31 | deiv | i thought |
| 12:31 | i wanted to be sure | |
| 12:31 | i'm doing it | |
| 12:31 | mbalmer | swiss thursday starts |
| 12:31 | deiv | it needs lot of hours |
| 12:32 | jcamins_away | deiv: yes, it does. I imagine it'll take about... 20? |
| 12:32 | deiv | jcamins_away: the importing process needed 5 hours |
| 12:33 | wizzyrea | yep, you need to index |
| 12:33 | jcamins_away | deiv: how much disk space do you have? |
| 12:33 | deiv | not so much |
| 12:33 | 4gb | |
| 12:33 | jcamins_away | deiv: you need about... 80gb. |
| 12:34 | (if you want to use that dataset) | |
| 12:34 | wizzyrea | http://koha-community.org/?qa_[…]rch-stuff-up-help |
| 12:34 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: awesome! |
| 12:35 | deiv | well, maybe it's better to drop that data and trying with something thinner |
| 12:35 | wizzyrea | also, please feel free to suggest edits to those faq's |
| 12:35 | dgl_library | thanks wizzyrea and everybody — I'll go and take some screenshots of the info I've already put in, and then start from scratch. have a good day/morning/evening/night… |
| 12:36 | wizzyrea | dgl_library: schema.koha-community.org may help you, if you really want to get the rules and stuff you've put in out |
| 12:37 | you can craft a sql report in koha that would let you download in TAB or CSV | |
| 12:37 | schema? | |
| 12:37 | wahanui | schema is probably tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org |
| 12:40 | deiv | i think i need support |
| 12:41 | jcamins_away | paid support? |
| 12:41 | wahanui | please see http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ for a list of paid Koha support vendors. |
| 12:41 | deiv | community support :P |
| 12:41 | translated: a question | |
| 12:41 | jcamins_away | @quote search ask |
| 12:41 | huginn | jcamins_away: 8 found: #117: "<druthb> basking ? You bask on the beach...one...", #126: "<rangi> The beauty of Koha is we develop in the...", #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.......", #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!", #155: "libsysguy: I always hate touching somebody...", #189: "libsysguy: one need not ask why where there are...", #45: "<CGI988> sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking...", and #4: (1 more message) |
| 12:42 | jcamins_away | @quote get 145 |
| 12:42 | huginn | jcamins_away: Quote #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:37 PM, July 07, 2011) |
| 12:42 | deiv | eheh great |
| 12:42 | well | |
| 12:42 | dgl_library | wizzyrea & jcamins: I'm not terribly command-line savvy. can you point me to a page or something that gives the commands to craft a sql report in koha that would let me download in TAB or CSV? |
| 12:42 | deiv | i would like to undo the data import and reset indexing and try with a marc21 smaller sample |
| 12:42 | wizzyrea | oh, you can do it through the web interface |
| 12:42 | more -> reports | |
| 12:42 | create from sql | |
| 12:42 | jcamins_away | deiv: how did you import it? |
| 12:43 | dgl_library | oh, great :) |
| 12:43 | wizzyrea | dgl_library: an example of a query that would get you, say, your library definitions |
| 12:43 | select * from branches | |
| 12:44 | jcamins_away | deiv: if you used the batch import functionality, you can just reverse the import. If you used the command line, you'll have to delete all the records via the database. |
| 12:45 | deiv | i used misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -file /path/to/marc.iso2709 |
| 12:45 | jcamins_away | deiv: in that case, you'll need to delete all the records in SQL, doing something like "DELETE FROM biblio; DELETE FROM biblioitems;" |
| 12:45 | dgl_library | wizzyrea: more --> reports …… there's no "create from sql" option. |
| 12:46 | deiv | jcamins: that's ok |
| 12:46 | wizzyrea | not under "guided reports" |
| 12:46 | ? | |
| 12:46 | well you do have those weird permission problems | |
| 12:46 | perhaps your user doesn't have permissions | |
| 12:46 | dgl_library | http://mibpaste.com/xCPkkZ |
| 12:47 | deiv | jcamins: how to delete already created indexes? |
| 12:47 | wizzyrea | stinky poo |
| 12:47 | dgl_library | yep. |
| 12:47 | jcamins_away | deiv: when you import new records, you will reindex using rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r |
| 12:47 | wizzyrea | yea, it looks like your whole problem is that your super librarian doesn't have superlibrarian permissions |
| 12:47 | dgl_library | wizzyrea: I do have root access on the command line, though… if there's a way to do the export that way |
| 12:47 | wizzyrea | well |
| 12:47 | dgl_library | hmm. wish I could just fix the permissions! |
| 12:48 | wizzyrea | you can try mysql -ukohaadmin -p nameofkohadb |
| 12:48 | password will be the same as your staff client login | |
| 12:48 | deiv | jcamins: a new import and rebuild will delete older and unuseful indexes? |
| 12:49 | jcamins_away | Yes. |
| 12:49 | deiv | jcamins: great |
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| 12:50 | dgl_library | wizzyrea: well, I ran that command and am now at a mysql> prompt. however, since this is all happening within virtualbox, I'm not sure where the file is or how to get it out to my host OS |
| 12:51 | wizzyrea | there won't be much in them likely |
| 12:51 | ok so, just for fun | |
| 12:51 | select * from branches; | |
| 12:51 | you see your data? | |
| 12:51 | dgl_library | back in the web interface, you mean? |
| 12:51 | wizzyrea | no, at your mysql prompt |
| 12:52 | deiv | jcamins: could i have a clean db doing a drop and a new web first setup? |
| 12:52 | wizzyrea | ^^ just as it appears up there, punctuation and all |
| 12:52 | jcamins_away | deiv: you could do that, too. |
| 12:52 | wizzyrea | deiv: that would clean it out, sure |
| 12:52 | dgl_library | did that |
| 12:53 | it spat out the library info, address etc | |
| 12:53 | wizzyrea | cool |
| 12:53 | dgl_library | 1 row in set |
| 12:53 | jcamins_away | Ooh, you know what I get to do now? Meet the contractor at the new apartment... again! |
| 12:53 | wizzyrea | perfect, you only have 1 branch |
| 12:53 | right? | |
| 12:53 | dgl_library | right |
| 12:53 | wizzyrea | ok |
| 12:53 | so, now that we know we can get in | |
| 12:53 | deiv | this way seems more stable...how to re execute first installation? sorry, but i'm a real beginner |
| 12:53 | wizzyrea | and we are looking at the right db |
| 12:53 | you can type exit | |
| 12:53 | to exit mysql | |
| 12:53 | dgl_library | done |
| 12:54 | wizzyrea | and do |
| 12:54 | mysql -ukohaadmin -p kohadb -e "select * from branches" > branches.sql | |
| 12:54 | * jcamins_away | sighs. I am not looking forward to redoing the kitchen and bathroom. |
| 12:54 | wizzyrea | :/ |
| 12:55 | jcamins_away | Thankfully, we have a while before that's necessary. |
| 12:55 | So long, #koha. | |
| 12:55 | wizzyrea | later jcamins_away |
| 12:57 | dgl_library | be right back… |
| 12:59 | deiv | a question: how can i re execute first web installation step? i need to rebuild db structure |
| 13:00 | slef | deiv: use a new database |
| 13:01 | deiv | slef: i need to re create structure |
| 13:01 | i would drop koha db | |
| 13:02 | and i need to re create entire structure | |
| 13:03 | sturmtruppen | hi to everyone |
| 13:03 | dgl_library | wizzyrea: should I replace kohadb with the db name, which is koha in my case? |
| 13:03 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 13:03 | afk just a min | |
| 13:04 | sturmtruppen | a newbie question for you: how can I obtainabout 2000 records starting from ISBN and automatically? |
| 13:06 | wizzyrea | ok back |
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| 13:10 | deiv | wizzyrea: a simple question: how to re execute first web installer step? |
| 13:11 | wizzyrea | drop the db and create a new one, then go to the url for your staff client |
| 13:13 | sturmtruppen | for me, any ideas? anyone? |
| 13:14 | deiv | sturmtruppen: me not |
| 13:14 | i'm an hyper beginner | |
| 13:14 | sturmtruppen | me too |
| 13:14 | second day in koha... | |
| 13:14 | deiv | sturmtruppen: give me five :) |
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| 13:15 | deiv | wizzyrea: are you sure webinstaller will works when i will drop db? i need the 3 steps first installer |
| 13:16 | wizzyrea | deiv: think of it this way |
| 13:16 | what are the conditions by which the web installer fires? | |
| 13:16 | koha finds a database, but it has nothing in it | |
| 13:17 | koha wants to propagate it, so it launches the web installer. | |
| 13:17 | deiv | i don't know, could be it exist a flag file or something similar |
| 13:17 | i try | |
| 13:17 | thank you! | |
| 13:17 | wizzyrea | sure :) |
| 13:19 | dgl_library | wizzyrea: I tried mysql -ukohaadmin -p kohadb -e "select * from branches" > branches.sql and the result was: "ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 'kohaadmin' @ 'localhost' to database 'kohadb' |
| 13:19 | I think my database is just called koha | |
| 13:19 | wizzyrea | well you have to use the name of *your* database |
| 13:19 | sorry if I wasn't clear | |
| 13:20 | deiv | if it doesn't work i will pay a hacker to lock your WC, so you will need to ask peeing to your next-door :D |
| 13:20 | wizzyrea | charming? |
| 13:21 | dgl_library | wizzyrea: thanks |
| 13:21 | wizzyrea | so now, dgl |
| 13:21 | if you want info out of other tables (they're all listed in the schema at schema.koha-community.org) | |
| 13:21 | you just do something similar | |
| 13:21 | to what you just did | |
| 13:22 | substituting your table names for branches | |
| 13:22 | example, select * from categories | |
| 13:23 | or select * from authorised_values | |
| 13:23 | dgl_library | ok, I did it for branches. where can I find a list of table names? |
| 13:23 | wizzyrea | schema |
| 13:23 | schema? | |
| 13:23 | wahanui | schema is tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org |
| 13:23 | dgl_library | or is there a way to export the whole db at once? |
| 13:23 | thank you | |
| 13:23 | wizzyrea | to export the whole db |
| 13:23 | mysqldump -ukohaadmin -p koha > koha-dump.sql | |
| 13:23 | back up koha? | |
| 13:23 | wahanui | back up koha is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Backing_up_Koha |
| 13:24 | wizzyrea | basically the same as this |
| 13:24 | dgl_library | thanks. there's suppose to be a space after the -u in -ukohaadmin, right? |
| 13:24 | wizzyrea | nop |
| 13:24 | dgl_library | ok |
| 13:25 | wizzyrea | it might work with one, but I never put one in |
| 13:28 | magnuse | wizzyrea++ for helping people |
| 13:29 | wizzyrea | magnuse++ for writing the backup documentation |
| 13:29 | lol | |
| 13:29 | dgl_library | wizzyrea, thanks very much for the help today — signing off & will check in again after doing the new setup. btw, are you one of the programmers on the koha project? |
| 13:29 | wizzyrea | I have patches in Koha, ya |
| 13:30 | but pretty much everybody here does :) | |
| 13:30 | * oleonard | waves |
| 13:30 | wizzyrea | oleonard having at least as many, if not more, than most ;) |
| 13:30 | jcamins_away | Wow. The devastation is incredible. In one day they managed to remove almost all the junk on the walls from the previous owners. |
| 13:30 | dgl_library | wow |
| 13:31 | wizzyrea | 180 contributors now? |
| 13:31 | dgl_library | sorry, that wow was about all the programmers here — thanks #koha, bye for now |
| 13:31 | wizzyrea | later :) |
| 13:31 | jcamins_away | Including a room full of hideous mirrors! |
| 13:31 | wizzyrea | O.o |
| 13:31 | * wizzyrea | refrains from making a lewd joke |
| 13:32 | wizzyrea | also, how awesome is the word "lewd" |
| 13:32 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 13:32 | Yay! Time to discuss ethernet! | |
| 13:33 | * wizzyrea | grins evilly at oleonard |
| 13:34 | oleonard | :P |
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| 13:43 | deiv | another question: do you know a place where to download a marc bibliography, enaugh big to be consistent, enaugh little to let me run on a netbook? |
| 13:43 | *enough | |
| 13:50 | wizzyrea | https://github.com/wizzyrea/Sc[…]master/MARC21.mrc |
| 13:50 | should have items consistent with the sample data | |
| 13:50 | actually I need to rebuild that I think. | |
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| 13:55 | wizzyrea | but it should work |
| 13:55 | for you | |
| 13:57 | schuster | Howdy all |
| 13:57 | oleonard | Hi schuster |
| 13:58 | Whoops, I submitted a patch. | |
| 13:58 | schuster | I turned on extended attributes on my system and one of the items listed there as "default" is SHOW_BCODE - which is a system pref with a yes no. |
| 14:00 | oleonard | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]l#opacbarcodesfaq |
| 14:02 | schuster | OK so that is now just a piece of Extended attributes... Just surprised me to see that. thanks |
| 14:04 | * oleonard | founds a new startup, lmgtitkmfy.com: Let me Google that in the Koha manual for you ;) |
| 14:08 | hdl | this is quite an old timer : RTFM or ggl is your friend |
| 14:09 | * oleonard | would never really tell schuster to RTFM |
| 14:11 | oleonard | kyleh: Around? |
| 14:12 | wizzyrea | bbiab |
| 14:18 | schuster | appreciates oleonard being nice to schuster :) |
| 14:19 | jcamins_away - so where does 7284 stand now? I see it is back to needs signoff. | |
| 14:19 | jcamins_away | schuster: it's pushed! :D |
| 14:19 | The "Needs Signoff" is for a follow-up to fix a test. | |
| 14:20 | paul_p: a patch to fix jenkins' build is attached to bug 7284. | |
| 14:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 14:20 | paul_p | hi jcamins_away, yes i've seen. |
| 14:20 | schuster | OK just confused on the flow ;) |
| 14:20 | paul_p | almost done with my answer to marcelr on koha-devel, and I take care of it ;-) |
| 14:21 | (i already have fixed the <a> and <b> issue as well) | |
| 14:23 | jcamins_away | :) |
| 14:23 | Thanks. | |
| 14:23 | schuster: no, it's a bit confusing when I change it to "Needs Signoff" immediately after it's pushed. | |
| 14:24 | kf | paul_p: I am a bit worried about the perltidy idea - not sure we finally decided about it. I think we said we woudl start discussion and gather pro/cons |
| 14:25 | paul_p | I remember we agreed that there was no "good" option, this one being the "less wrong" one |
| 14:27 | kf | paul_p: I thik there were some strong objections |
| 14:27 | and we still have to pudate the copyright statements... I fear losing the history might not be woth it | |
| 14:28 | paul_p | what do you mean by "update the @ statements" ? |
| 14:28 | kf | we need to update them in order to get into debian properly |
| 14:28 | afaik | |
| 14:28 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7284: Fix unit test broken by erroneous POD <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c83e16f3cf796745a> / bug 7284 follow-up: removing html tags and as they're displayed not... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1657a845757b47d08> |
| 14:28 | paul_p | (kf: we don't loose the history, we just have one commit, that will be easily identified on git history) |
| 14:29 | kf | yes, but git blame will not be identifying it |
| 14:29 | and I thik it's not only whitespace changes - it will change the line breaking too. I think at least we need to test it before we go through with it | |
| 14:29 | paul_p | we should find the discussion, because iirc, we said that was worth it. |
| 14:29 | kf | really looking at the consequences |
| 14:30 | I think it was to be talked about on the mailing list - but might remember wrong | |
| 14:30 | paul_p | kf perltidy, fortunatly, changes more than whitespaces, but there's no consequences on the executed code |
| 14:30 | (fortunatly misplaced ;-) ) | |
| 14:31 | kf | yeah I know it does not change the code, but line breaking I think? |
| 14:31 | paul_p | yes, but there's no consequences |
| 14:31 | (that also changes {} position) | |
| 14:31 | kf | for history there iw |
| 14:31 | for history there is | |
| 14:31 | I think some peopel assumed you can tell git blame to ignore whitespace changes | |
| 14:32 | but this will not work | |
| 14:33 | paul_p | kf = http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]05-10.00.log.html (/me reading it now) |
| 14:33 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #646 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 22 h ago) |
| 14:33 | kf | hm think it was a later meeting |
| 14:34 | we talked about it again | |
| 14:34 | jcamins_away | paul_p: jenkins may still be unstable if rangi didn't get a chance to reindex. |
| 14:34 | kf | after we decided |
| 14:34 | about the stly | |
| 14:34 | e | |
| 14:34 | paul_p | jcamins_away probably yes, but less test failing is always better ;-) |
| 14:34 | jcamins_away | paul_p: yeah, I was just warning you that the new failure isn't my fault. ;) |
| 14:35 | paul_p | jcamins_away I know (and in fact, it's your fault. Because it's your patch :D ) |
| 14:35 | jcamins_away | paul_p: I provided all the tools necessary for fixing it. ;) |
| 14:35 | paul_p | kf you're right, it's not oct meeting, but I can't find which one it is... |
| 14:36 | jcamins_away | I believe rangi said he'd reindex it tomorrow. |
| 14:37 | kf | paul_p: I have problems finding it too |
| 14:37 | and have to finish wirting a protocol | |
| 14:38 | jcamins_away | paul_p: I thought the concensus was to perltidy existing code only when patches are touching it. |
| 14:38 | paul_p | jcamins_away well, it's *really* worth finding the logs then :D |
| 14:39 | jcamins_away | paul_p: hm, you're right. |
| 14:40 | kf | jcamins_away: I agree |
| 14:40 | jcamins_away: I think we postponed deciding about a big change | |
| 14:40 | jcamins_away | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]12-01-04#i_857956 |
| 14:42 | * jcamins_away | laughs at the 4 v 8 spaces thing. |
| 14:42 | jcamins_away | Oh, sorry, I didn't finish reading. |
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| 14:42 | jcamins_away | The conclusion was "we'll decide via mailing list. |
| 14:42 | And, with that thought, I'm off to a meeting. | |
| 14:42 | Bye! | |
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| 15:02 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 15:02 | kf | hi wizzyrea |
| 15:03 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Do you libraries complain about how the patron search autocomplete works? |
| 15:03 | wizzyrea | we don't use it |
| 15:03 | because people were consistently picking the wrong patron | |
| 15:04 | oleonard | Yeah, that seems to be the complaint here too. |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | I don't think the algorithm is bad |
| 15:04 | just... humans. | |
| 15:04 | oleonard | It's the way the YUI interaction is designed. |
| 15:04 | * oleonard | is happy to blame YUI |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 15:05 | oleonard | My jQuery version will be better if it ever sees the light of day |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea | oleonard: bug 6905 - was your concern the one that changed it to failed QA? |
| 15:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6905 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Allow selecting a patron from circulation history to take you to their circ page |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea | also does bugzilla have a history? |
| 15:13 | oleonard | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ivity.cgi?id=6905 |
| 15:14 | wizzyrea | ah thanks |
| 15:14 | nvm, must have been sekjal :) | |
| 15:14 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #646: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/646/ |
| 15:14 | * paul.poulain: bug 7284 follow-up: removing html tags <b> and <a href=> as they're displayed not as HTML | |
| 15:14 | * jcamins: Bug 7284: Fix unit test broken by erroneous POD | |
| 15:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
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| 15:15 | wizzyrea | where do you get the link for that? |
| 15:15 | "show activity" | |
| 15:15 | * wizzyrea | is especially dense, must have used up all of my brilliance for the day before it even began |
| 15:15 | wizzyrea | oh, History? |
| 15:15 | next to modified? | |
| 15:15 | oleonard | I click the "History" link next to the modified date |
| 15:16 | :) | |
| 15:16 | * wizzyrea | sees it now |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea | thanks :) |
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| 15:19 | wizzyrea | wonder what happened with that bug. |
| 15:19 | ditched in favor of the unified patron view preference I guess? | |
| 15:20 | oleonard | That's what I'm doing now |
| 15:20 | I marked Bug 6670 and Bug 6905 as dependent on a new bug, Bug 7680 | |
| 15:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6670 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Link patron name on returns screen to circulation page instead of patron detail page |
| 15:21 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6905 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Allow selecting a patron from circulation history to take you to their circ page | |
| 15:21 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7680 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Create a PatronDefaultView preference to control whether patron links go to circ or patron details | |
| 15:24 | oleonard | I...uh...hope that's okay with everybody... |
| 15:24 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 15:24 | fine by me | |
| 15:24 | * kf | loves system preferences ;) |
| 15:24 | wizzyrea | will be nice to make that consistent |
| 15:24 | kf also loves consistency | |
| 15:24 | iirc. | |
| 15:24 | kf | yep she does :) |
| 15:25 | and chocolate | |
| 15:25 | wahanui | i heard chocolate was finite, we ate it all :) |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 15:25 | oleonard | wahanui: Forget chocolate |
| 15:25 | wahanui | oleonard: I forgot chocolate |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | blasphemer! |
| 15:25 | oleonard | wahanui: chocolate is finite, but there is still some left for you |
| 15:25 | wahanui | OK, oleonard. |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | ok you're forgiven. |
| 15:26 | * wizzyrea | has thin mints on her desk |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | how i've resisted not eating every single one of them yet is beyond me |
| 15:26 | kf | wish it was that easy to solve the chocolate shortage |
| 15:26 | oleonard | wizzyrea: You must be a stronger person than I |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | is the mint in the cookie, or the chocolate I wonder. |
| 15:27 | mysteries of the universe I guess. | |
| 15:27 | * wizzyrea | reaches for the thin mints |
| 15:27 | wizzyrea | oh, 4 left in the tube... 4 in a serving. Coincidence? |
| 15:28 | oleonard | 4 tubes in one serving? Sounds right to me. |
| 15:28 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 15:28 | I also have the shortbread ones with chocolate on the bottom | |
| 15:29 | * oleonard | swoons |
| 15:35 | oleonard | "PatronDefaultView : Links to patron records point to ( circulation | patron details )" |
| 15:35 | Does that make sense? | |
| 15:35 | wizzyrea | well on the patron screen |
| 15:35 | it's labeled "check out" | |
| 15:36 | http://screencast.com/t/allRYIakIpdE | |
| 15:36 | but otherwise, yes | |
| 15:37 | oleonard | Sure, links which are explicitly meant for one or the other will not be changed |
| 15:37 | wizzyrea | right, i just meant in your syspref |
| 15:37 | oleonard | Oh, you mean "check out" instead of "circulation" |
| 15:37 | wizzyrea | Links to patron records point to (check out | details) |
| 15:37 | yes, exactly | |
| 15:37 | oleonard | Good call |
| 15:38 | wizzyrea | in fact, everywhere it's called "check otu" |
| 15:38 | out" | |
| 15:38 | on circ home, in the header | |
| 15:39 | so check out would definitely be better. | |
| 15:39 | than circulation | |
| 15:40 | * wizzyrea | still hates the "fines and charges" tab on the patron detail |
| 15:40 | wizzyrea | just click the fines tab :P |
| 15:41 | oleonard, it occurs to me that we should make that table an include and use the same one on both the check out and detail tab | |
| 15:41 | because they're "identical" (except for the fines/charges tab | |
| 15:41 | kf | wizzyrea: it's handy for printing |
| 15:42 | wizzyrea: when you want to print out all holds, fines, detail about the patron, it's all on one page | |
| 15:43 | wizzyrea | well we should make "print page" do that |
| 15:44 | clrh | gmcharlt: I have a question about a contrib repository (written in pv) |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | because I would never ever have thought to print that detail page. |
| 15:45 | not when there's a giant "print" button up there. | |
| 15:45 | or we need a link to print it that says "print patron summary" or somesuch | |
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| 15:48 | kf | wizzyrea: we need a way to print out all information that is stored about a patron... |
| 15:48 | wizzyrea: so I think it's a really good idea | |
| 15:48 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 15:48 | kf | privacy laws |
| 15:48 | you can demand that, as a patron | |
| 15:48 | wizzyrea | sure |
| 15:49 | oleonard | Being an American I can only imagine what you mean by "privacy laws" :P |
| 15:49 | * wizzyrea | nods shamefully |
| 15:49 | oleonard | I think here it means they can keep private what kind of information they collect and sell |
| 15:50 | Oh look, circ/branchoverdues.pl is broken. | |
| 15:50 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 15:50 | kf | oh |
| 15:51 | oleonard | Undefined subroutine &C4::Members::checkoverdues |
| 15:51 | kf | oh |
| 15:51 | denesting | |
| 15:51 | wizzyrea | oof yea |
| 15:51 | * wizzyrea | will look at that |
| 16:01 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:01 | sturmtruppen | hi again. |
| 16:01 | * wizzyrea | wave |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | waves* |
| 16:02 | sturmtruppen | i have aproblem with the research of a record inserted in the database |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | searching faq? |
| 16:02 | wahanui | somebody said searching faq was at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | see the last one |
| 16:02 | sturmtruppen | i'll explain better... without a log in in the opac, i search a book by autor. |
| 16:03 | koha doesn't found the bokk, but i have just inserted in te db | |
| 16:03 | ok, i'm very newbie | |
| 16:04 | book | |
| 16:05 | author...I just forgot my bad english... | |
| 16:05 | oleonard | don't worry about your spelling sturmtruppen we understand |
| 16:06 | sturmtruppen | i know, you're a genius, i'm the man with problem in english ... hihihihihi! |
| 16:06 | oleonard | Did you look at the searching faq link? |
| 16:06 | sturmtruppen | ? |
| 16:06 | oleonard | http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 16:07 | kf | sturmtruppen: I forgot, did you install from the packages? |
| 16:07 | sturmtruppen | i started yesterday with koha |
| 16:07 | kf | (cait from Konstanz again ;) ) |
| 16:07 | sturmtruppen | yeap |
| 16:07 | kf | still waiting for my chocolate! |
| 16:07 | sturmtruppen | this summer, while i'm going to legoland, i'll bring you your chocolate! |
| 16:07 | kf | heh |
| 16:08 | sturmtruppen | yes, i installed from packages in debian squeeze |
| 16:08 | deiv | hi everybody |
| 16:08 | kf | hmm |
| 16:09 | I think there is a command for the packages to activate zebra indexing | |
| 16:09 | sturmtruppen | hi deiv |
| 16:09 | oh, i read about, i have to restart every time i turn off the machine, right? | |
| 16:09 | kf | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages |
| 16:09 | deiv | is it possible in 3.6.4 version to install a post installation new language? |
| 16:09 | kf | sturmtruppen: not sure if it should autostart |
| 16:09 | but perhaps try koha-start-zebra | |
| 16:10 | sturmtruppen | zebra was at party yesterday night, she's still sleeping... |
| 16:10 | kf | lol |
| 16:10 | hope she doesn't have a hangover | |
| 16:12 | sturmtruppen | bad things... she doesn't work... ops, I don't found the book I just allocate in the db |
| 16:13 | wizzyrea | deiv - yes |
| 16:13 | translations? | |
| 16:13 | wahanui | translations are there... And might help stoping the warnings. |
| 16:13 | wizzyrea | hm no |
| 16:13 | forget translations | |
| 16:13 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot translations |
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| 16:17 | wizzyrea | oleonard: there's a patch for branchoverdues already on bug 6875 |
| 16:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6875 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , de-nesting C4 packages |
| 16:17 | wizzyrea | at least, I think so |
| 16:18 | oleonard | Thanks wizzyrea |
| 16:18 | wizzyrea | i'm about to see if it works |
| 16:19 | deiv | i just installed italian language on koha 3.6.4! |
| 16:20 | kf | sturmtruppen: hmm. did you run the command and did it give you feedback? |
| 16:20 | sturmtruppen: you might perhaps also want to run the rebuild thing | |
| 16:21 | koha-rebuild-zebra - because your record didn't get indexed | |
| 16:21 | sturmtruppen | i have no feedback. now i'm reading the faq, as suggested by oleonard |
| 16:21 | wizzyrea | yup, it's golden, will sign off on it. |
| 16:21 | kf | sturmtruppen: not sure how it applies to packages |
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| 16:25 | wizzyrea | ok, you can put that branchoverdues issue out of your mind oleonard, once paul_p or QA sees the sign off for his patch to fix it. |
| 16:25 | oleonard | Cool. |
| 16:26 | * wizzyrea | tries to remember what she was doing before she went down that rabbit hole |
| 16:27 | oleonard | Eating thin mints |
| 16:27 | wizzyrea | lol, no. |
| 16:29 | sturmtruppen | nothing to do... no index anyway |
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| 16:47 | oleonard | Hi sekjal how's it going? |
| 16:47 | sekjal | hi, oleonard. going pretty well |
| 16:48 | lots of Koha emails to catch up on today | |
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| 17:11 | paul_p | OK, passed QA pile emptied (except for 2 that i'm waiting for some feedback/a squashed patch) |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | oh, paul_p |
| 17:12 | sekjal | paul_p: I'll get on making more work for you :) |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | bug .... grr the denesting one |
| 17:12 | paul_p | sekjal feel free ;-) |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | 6875 |
| 17:12 | bug 6875 | |
| 17:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6875 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Signed Off , de-nesting C4 packages |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | your fix for members.pm |
| 17:12 | paul_p | wizzyrea yes, i've seen you've signed off it |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | i signed off - okk great |
| 17:12 | branchoverdues.pl is broken without it | |
| 17:13 | paul_p | it's time to leave for me, but i'll take care tomorrow |
| 17:17 | kf | time to leave for me too |
| 17:17 | bye all | |
| 17:17 | kf left #koha | |
| 17:24 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6086 follow-up Uppercase initial coding guideline fix <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eda319a9f7c84072d> / Bug 6086: Followup: Replace \t characters with 4 spaces <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e33f5701693f8fbb9> / Bug 6086 - adding a dynamic filter to pending holds <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko |
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| 17:27 | druthb | @later tell eythian I have a question about your csvtomarc script--trying to coax it to do something, and probably not telling it how to correctly... |
| 17:27 | huginn | druthb: The operation succeeded. |
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| 17:29 | * oleonard | waves to druthb |
| 17:29 | druthb | hi, oleonard! :D |
| 17:33 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #647 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 1 j 1 h ago) |
| 17:40 | oleonard | druthb or other ByWater folks, have you had anyone ask for something like Bug 1698? |
| 17:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1698 enhancement, P3, ---, chris, NEW , Undebar patron if all items are returned |
| 17:41 | jcamins_away | oleonard, yes they have. |
| 17:42 | oleonard | ...but nothing developed? |
| 17:42 | jcamins_away | No idea. |
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| 17:47 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 17:56 | slef | hi cait |
| 17:56 | cait | hi slef :) |
| 17:57 | slef | biab dinner |
| 18:13 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #647: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/647/ |
| 18:13 | * oleonard: Bug 7584 - Update cart and lists buttons style using CSS3 features | |
| 18:13 | * oleonard: Bug 7616 - Remove unused template markup for css_libs, css_module, js_libs, etc. | |
| 18:13 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7615 - Give option to use description for homebranch/holding branch in label creator instead of the branchcode | |
| 18:13 | * oleonard: Bug 7493 [REVISED] Deleting a record with comments breaks "Recent Comments" | |
| 18:13 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7493 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 18:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7584 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update cart and lists buttons style using CSS3 features |
| 18:13 | jenkins_koha | * gcollum: Bug 7517: Revised Patch. Patron category types not displaying <optgroup> in dropdown. |
| 18:13 | * wizzyrea: Bug 7271 - change sort in items.pm to sort by home library instead of holding branch | |
| 18:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7616 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused template markup for css_libs, css_module, js_libs, etc. |
| 18:13 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Bug 7629 - Update sco.css to include CSS Gradients and prevent error upon missing background image file |
| 18:13 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7603: Change description of 952$3 in German frameworks to reflect new functionality | |
| 18:13 | * srdjan: Bug 6488: Display OPAC search result count conditional to OpacHiddenItems syspref | |
| 18:13 | * oleonard: Bug 7631 - Self checkout renewal fails because of reference to non-existent subroutine in sco-main.pl | |
| 18:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7615 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Master , Give option to use description for homebranch/holding branch in label creator instead of the branchcode |
| 18:13 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7493 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Deleting a record with comments breaks "Recent Comments" | |
| 18:13 | jenkins_koha | * alex.arnaud: Bug 6086 - adding a dynamic filter to pending holds |
| 18:13 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 6086: Followup: Replace \t characters with 4 spaces | |
| 18:13 | * paul.poulain: Bug 6086 follow-up Uppercase initial coding guideline fix | |
| 18:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7517 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gcollum, Pushed to Master , Patron category types not appearing as an <optgroup> when editing or creating a patron. |
| 18:13 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7271 normal, P3, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , Revert getitems default sort to homebranch instead of holding branch | |
| 18:13 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7629 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update sco.css to include CSS Gradients and prevent error upon missing background image file. | |
| 18:13 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Change description of 952$3 in German frameworks to reflect new functionality | |
| 18:13 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6488 critical, P2, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , opachiddenitems not working in master | |
| 18:13 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7631 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Self checkout renewal fails because of reference to non-existent subroutine in sco-main.pl | |
| 18:13 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6086 minor, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , adding a dynamic filter to pending holds | |
| 18:14 | cait | I love the red of jenkin's messages |
| 18:32 | rangi | hmm |
| 18:32 | there is a patch that fixes some of those tests on 7284 | |
| 18:32 | cait | yes, it also mailed me |
| 18:33 | rangi | its an easy peasy signoff if someone wants to try? |
| 18:34 | cait | bug number? |
| 18:35 | jcamins_away | Bug 7284 |
| 18:35 | wahanui | well, Bug 7284 is the first step to making that happen. |
| 18:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 18:35 | rangi | yeah that one |
| 18:35 | its a pod fix | |
| 18:35 | so run a test, apply patch, run test | |
| 18:35 | easy :) | |
| 18:36 | jcamins_away | But didn't paul_p already push that? |
| 18:36 | * jcamins_away | just remembered seeing something about that. |
| 18:37 | rangi | oh maybe |
| 18:37 | lemme look | |
| 18:37 | jcamins_away: if you can let me know what i have to change for zebra ill have a go at that | |
| 18:38 | oh yes down to 2 fails | |
| 18:38 | ignore that cait | |
| 18:38 | cait | ok |
| 18:38 | rangi | just the reindexing i think |
| 18:38 | jcamins_away: do i need to copy some files from git for the zebra stuff? | |
| 18:40 | jcamins_away | rangi: yes. Here's the list: http://paste.koha-community.org/304 |
| 18:40 | rangi | ta |
| 18:45 | indexing now | |
| 18:46 | jcamins_away | chris_n: for the rebase of 7284 on 3.6.x, do you want me to squash the four patches together? |
| 18:53 | rangi | holy crap, there are way more authorities in here than i though |
| 18:53 | t | |
| 18:53 | jcamins_away | rangi: how many? |
| 18:53 | cait | rangi++ jcamins++ :) |
| 18:53 | rangi | im up to 27k |
| 18:53 | jcamins_away | Wow! |
| 18:53 | rangi | (the db was originally hlt's) |
| 18:54 | anonymised, and with the sample data added | |
| 18:54 | but i wanted something biggish so when i get time i can get jenkins to load test too | |
| 18:54 | jcamins_away | Makes sense. |
| 18:54 | rangi | using Test::WWW::Mechanize |
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| 18:59 | chris_n | jcamins_away: that'll be fine |
| 19:00 | jcamins_away | chris_n: okay, I will attach the 3.6.x patches when I can. |
| 19:00 | chris_n: I haven't tried yet, but I suspect backporting it to 3.4.x is going to be problematic. | |
| 19:03 | My inclination, if that's the case, is to say that the bug fix is only available in 3.6.5+ | |
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| 19:44 | oleonard | Hah, IE9 finally gives us support for border-radius and even then it's broken. |
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| 19:45 | Space_Librarian | quick question. Is there any way to lock a public list so that only librarians can edit them? |
| 19:45 | * Space_Librarian | waves around cookies to tempt answers |
| 19:45 | oleonard | Public lists are not supposed to be editable by anyone but the creator |
| 19:46 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 19:46 | Space_Librarian | oh good. |
| 19:46 | oleonard | Cart and Lists buttons in IE9: http://screencast.com/t/tDWYJfx2O |
| 19:47 | Space_Librarian | So if somebody other than the creator clicks delete or edit on the list, nothing happens? |
| 19:47 | oleonard | border-radius in IE9? Fine. Background-gradients in IE9? No problem. border-radius AND background-gradients? Hah. |
| 19:48 | Space_Librarian: OPAC or staff client? | |
| 19:48 | Space_Librarian | the background gradients in the lists drop down has been a great cause for complaint by the IE9 users here. |
| 19:49 | oleonard: opac | |
| 19:50 | and re: the gradient - http://screencast.com/t/9AbDw4Dio5ik - only an issue in IE | |
| 19:51 | oleonard | Must be a version before IE9? |
| 19:54 | wizzyrea | wow why a horizontal gradient? |
| 19:54 | * wizzyrea | ponders |
| 19:55 | Space_Librarian | I dunno, it's whatever they've just upgraded the work search engine to. I use chrome, so it doesn't bother me. But yeah, weird. |
| 19:56 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Because IE doesn't support multiple "stops" in gradients |
| 19:57 | The lists background gradient goes from color 1 to color 2 to color 3. IE only understands 2 | |
| 19:58 | Space_Librarian | for comparison: same list in chrome. http://screencast.com/t/ILpP94u61 |
| 19:58 | oleonard | Space_Librarian: So in this case the question is why the custom CSS works in Chrome and not IE |
| 20:00 | Space_Librarian | it also works in Firefox |
| 20:01 | But, we all know how broken IE is. | |
| 20:07 | oleonard | Space_Librarian: Back to your question about lists, I don't see where someone other than the creator sees a delete or edit link |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | Space_Librarian: are you the creator of all of those lists? |
| 20:08 | (you might try looking with a different user) | |
| 20:09 | cait | superlibrarian? |
| 20:09 | wahanui | well, superlibrarian is one of the permissions |
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| 20:13 | Space_Librarian | I am the creator |
| 20:13 | and superlibrarian | |
| 20:13 | wahanui | superlibrarian is one of the permissions |
| 20:13 | jcamins_away | All hail Space_Librarian! |
| 20:13 | wizzyrea | ah that's why you see the edit and delete links |
| 20:13 | jcamins_away | :D |
| 20:13 | Space_Librarian | :D |
| 20:13 | wizzyrea | if you were any other user you wouldn't see them :0 |
| 20:13 | * druthb | hails Space_Librarian! |
| 20:13 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 20:13 | jcamins_away | Librarians... innnnn... spaaaaace!!!! |
| 20:13 | * oleonard | grovels |
| 20:13 | * druthb | worships. |
| 20:14 | * Space_Librarian | passes around cookies |
| 20:14 | * wizzyrea | pays indulgence |
| 20:14 | cait | hm cookies |
| 20:14 | * cait | feels converted |
| 20:15 | Space_Librarian | i <3 you guys. :D |
| 20:17 | oleonard | It's harder to find the reload button in IE9 than it is to hit an exhaust port on the Death Star with a proton torpedo. |
| 20:18 | cait | oleonard++ |
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| 20:18 | druthb | oleonard: I used to bulls-eye womp-rats in my T-16 back home; they're not much bigger than two meters. |
| 20:18 | * cait | giggles |
| 20:18 | * druthb | ducks |
| 20:18 | Space_Librarian | druthb++ |
| 20:18 | mbalmer | evening. |
| 20:18 | wahanui | i guess evening is better for me - but not too late |
| 20:19 | cait | evening |
| 20:19 | Space_Librarian | evening |
| 20:19 | druthb | hi, mbalmer. :) |
| 20:19 | Space_Librarian | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 20:19 | huginn | Space_Librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on March 09, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:19 | mbalmer | booked my hotel in Marseille, 20 minutes by foot from the hackroom. |
| 20:19 | oleonard | wahanui is asking for a date I think |
| 20:19 | mbalmer | it has a strange name, though. |
| 20:19 | rangi | On the bus |
| 20:20 | cait | mbalmer: so are not staying at hotel moderne? |
| 20:20 | mbalmer | no, Newhotel Vieux Port. |
| 20:20 | druthb | isn't "wahanui" the Maori word for "loudmouth" or something like? or "obnoxious mother-in-law", or... I don't remember |
| 20:20 | mbalmer | it has very good ratings and is nearby |
| 20:21 | and is near to the old harbour, which is nice. | |
| 20:22 | Space_Librarian | druthb, I think it's big mouth or something, yeah |
| 20:22 | sturmtruppen | hi everyone |
| 20:22 | druthb | thanx, Space_Librarian. |
| 20:22 | wahanui: druthb? | |
| 20:22 | wahanui | She finally snapped, like we all knew she would. |
| 20:22 | * druthb | nods. |
| 20:23 | Space_Librarian | wahanui: Space_Librarian? |
| 20:23 | wahanui | Space_Librarian is, like, a Koha poet or the sweetest lil lady you'll ever know |
| 20:23 | * cait | shakes her head |
| 20:23 | * Space_Librarian | snerks |
| 20:23 | druthb | cait? |
| 20:23 | wahanui | That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) |
| 20:23 | druthb | lulz |
| 20:23 | Space_Librarian | hahaha :D |
| 20:24 | cait | hmpf |
| 20:24 | druthb | kf? |
| 20:24 | wahanui | kf is probably cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. |
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| 20:36 | rangi | Man this bus is slow |
| 20:40 | My stop | |
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| 21:00 | Shane-S | wizzyrea: were you able to get the style sheets working without breaking the paid book covers? |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | you know I haven't even looked at it yet >.< |
| 21:01 | sorry | |
| 21:01 | Shane-S | no problem, I just saw your comment to the bug and didn't know if you tried, wanted to check before I left work :) |
| 21:01 | I will be fixing a mistake in a patch, hopefully tonight, so I might be on if you are still here and/or have questions | |
| 21:22 | eythian | druthb: what's up? |
| 21:23 | Space_Librarian | (apologies for a impending segue into Friday madness) |
| 21:23 | @dice d20 | |
| 21:23 | huginn | Space_Librarian: Error: Dice must be of the form <dice>d<sides> |
| 21:23 | bag | no worries it's still Thursday ;) |
| 21:23 | @wunder 93109 | |
| 21:23 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 21.9°C (12:38 PM PST on March 08, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022.6 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:23 | * Space_Librarian | really needs coffee. |
| 21:23 | bag | @wunder wellington nz |
| 21:23 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on March 09, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:24 | bag | oh rangi that's a win ;) |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | rather chilly for fall eh |
| 21:25 | late summer, I guess | |
| 21:25 | eythian | We don't have fall here |
| 21:25 | jcamins_away | Time to head home. So long, #koha. |
| 21:25 | (I'll probably be back in an hour or two) | |
| 21:25 | eythian | later jcamins_away |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | what do you call the chilly-ish time between summer and winter? |
| 21:25 | winteR? | |
| 21:25 | wahanui | hmmm... winteR is almost gone! I already need the fan on |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | winter? |
| 21:25 | wahanui | i guess winter is almost gone! I already need the fan on |
| 21:25 | eythian | wizzyrea: autumn |
| 21:25 | druthb | eythian...I have four columns, A, B, C, D, in a spreadsheet, and I want to create two 600 fields out of them-- I tried --mapping=A=marc:600_a --mapping=B=marc_600_e --mapping=C=600_a% --mapping=D=600_e, but that didn't fly. Got the first one right, but all entries after C created a new tag, not added to the second 600. |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | eythian: you are cheeky. |
| 21:25 | :) | |
| 21:26 | rather chilly for AUTUMN, then. | |
| 21:27 | eythian | druthb: hmm |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea: it's not too bad, warming up | |
| 21:28 | druthb: I don't think it can do that reliably. I'd actually expect it to be adding all the other ones to the first 600 | |
| 21:28 | (all the non-C ones) | |
| 21:29 | druthb | crapola. I was hopin' to avoid a custom script, as this particular CSV has 75 columns. |
| 21:30 | eythian | you might be able to mess around with ordering and whether to put '%' signs in to make it work |
| 21:30 | it runs all the mappings through in the order they're defined on the command | |
| 21:31 | e.g. put all the ones that go together in a sequence first, and then the one on its own with a '%' | |
| 21:31 | druthb | From the way I'd seen it behave, I had things in that order, and I've tried all sorts of wierd combinations of ? and % and ! to get there, but it either put everything on the first 600, or in separate tags. that second 600 never got any of it's subs other than _a |
| 21:32 | eythian | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]heads/nzei_import <-- this branch has (I think) the latest version, it might work better. |
| 21:33 | rangi | back |
| 21:33 | eythian | I wouldn't expect the '%' to affect anything other than itself... |
| 21:34 | druthb | Okay; I'll take another swing at things with the newer code shortly. |
| 21:37 | thanks for an amazing piece of code, eythian. :) | |
| 21:38 | eythian | I see you haven't actually read it yet, it's become quite monstrous ;) |
| 21:38 | http://blog.makezine.com/2012/[…]cyclo-innovation/ | |
| 21:38 | rangi | heh |
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| 23:12 | * jcamins | can't imagine how he did anything before virtualization was practical. |
| 23:14 | eythian | chroots all the way! |
| 23:14 | jcamins | eythian: but I never learned how to use chroots. |
| 23:15 | eythian | they're not so hard. |
| 23:15 | jcamins | No, but I never learned. |
| 23:15 | eythian | though I use pdebuild for that kind of thing these days, it makes the magic work. |
| 23:17 | * jcamins | installs Ubuntu so that he doesn't sully anything but a VM with Java. |
| 23:18 | runs out of RAM. | |
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| 23:37 | jcamins | rangi: have you done any further testing with MariaDB? |
| 23:37 | rangi | nope, but chris_n has i think |
| 23:42 | its pretty much drop in replacement afaict |
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