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| 01:40 | rangi | ohh bags ot answering that email |
| 01:40 | not | |
| 01:41 | bag | ohh bags ot answering that email ? what does that mean ;) |
| 01:44 | rangi | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dibs |
| 01:45 | bags not = i all dibs on not doing that | |
| 01:45 | all=call | |
| 01:45 | cant type today | |
| 01:45 | the email about liblime ils on the mailing list | |
| 01:48 | you'll see it very shortly | |
| 01:54 | wizzyrea joined #koha | |
| 01:56 | rangi | bag: see what i mean? |
| 01:57 | bag | ah let me go look |
| 01:58 | I see it | |
| 01:58 | rangi | point them at the archer thread hehe |
| 01:59 | but yeah needs someone not working for a support company to answer i reckon | |
| 02:00 | * jcamins_away | is not touching that. |
| 02:00 | rangi | exactly |
| 02:00 | wizzyrea | what's the dramas? |
| 02:02 | rangi | check out the latest email to the mailing list |
| 02:02 | wizzyrea | oh dear. |
| 02:03 | oh. Oh my. | |
| 02:03 | rangi | lol |
| 02:04 | yahuh | |
| 02:04 | wizzyrea | i would have to ponder that for a while before answering it |
| 02:04 | rangi | yeah im not going near it |
| 02:04 | * wizzyrea | feels kinda sorta qualified to answer that. sorta. |
| 02:04 | wizzyrea | kinda. |
| 02:04 | rangi | yeah it would be better from a non support provider |
| 02:05 | wizzyrea | i will think about that. Maybe I"ll do it tomorrow. |
| 02:11 | bag | hey jcamins did you wirte a patch that deals with proxying? |
| 02:12 | I've got a library behind a firewall that is having trouble with enhanced content | |
| 02:12 | or whoops jcamins_away | |
| 02:12 | jcamins_away | bag: I did, but after it wouldn't apply for the dozen-th time, I obsoleted it as WONTFIX. |
| 02:12 | bag | do you have a bug #? |
| 02:12 | jcamins_away | I don't think it'll help with the enhanced content, because that means they're blocking Amazon/Google/whoever. |
| 02:12 | Yeah... | |
| 02:13 | bag | just interested to look at it |
| 02:13 | jcamins_away | (looking it up) |
| 02:13 | Bug 6800. | |
| 02:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6800 major, P3, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Koha authentication should handle proxies better |
| 02:13 | bag | it's weird - it's for sydentics - and it's only blocking certain portions or the content. book jackets come through - but not the extra reviews etc. |
| 02:16 | thanks jcamins_away | |
| 02:16 | jcamins_away | bag: that sounds familiar. |
| 02:16 | bag | catch you all later - time for dinner :D |
| 02:16 | jcamins_away | Enjoy. |
| 02:23 | * jcamins_away | realizes he can't make his wife the chocolate saltine toffee thingies because he doesn't have any butter. |
| 02:40 | jcamins_away | When did 3.2.9 come out? |
| 02:44 | rangi | pass |
| 02:44 | git will know | |
| 02:45 | jcamins_away | May 2011. So that's not the "2.9" the person on the list claimed to have. |
| 02:46 | rangi | if they have a url i could tell them :) |
| 02:46 | jcamins_away | Or they could check by looking at the about page. |
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| 02:48 | rangi | wb wizzyrea |
| 02:58 | brooke beat ya | |
| 03:01 | wizzyrea | oh phew. |
| 03:01 | rangi | good reply too |
| 03:01 | wizzyrea | will read it in a sec |
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| 03:16 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 03:20 | wizzyrea | hey oak |
| 03:20 | Oak | hello wizzyrea! :) |
| 03:25 | mtj | anyone about for a .tt translate query? |
| 03:26 | * wizzyrea | hides |
| 03:26 | * jcamins_away | as well |
| 03:26 | mtj | i have 2 lines of english, hardcoded in a ajax_auth_cgi() sub... |
| 03:27 | that i need to pull out , and stick in a .tt file, so my feature is accepted | |
| 03:27 | and i'm quite f**ked if i know the best way to do it? :p | |
| 03:28 | i cant seem to find anywhere else in Koha, that i can crib/copy from.. :/ | |
| 03:29 | jcamins_away | mtj: what's the ajax_auth_cgi() sub in? |
| 03:29 | mtj | the catch is that its an ajax error, saying 'Your CGI session cookie ($sessid) is not current. ' |
| 03:30 | so obv. the usual get_template_and_user() sub wont work... coz the user has no auth | |
| 03:32 | jcamins that sub is in opac-tags.pl currently | |
| 03:32 | jcamins_away | mtj: okay, so it's in Perl. |
| 03:33 | * jcamins | ponders. |
| 03:33 | mtj | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]87fa5;hb=HEAD#l56 |
| 03:34 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c-tags.pl;hb=HEAD | |
| 03:34 | wizzyrea | omg I'm dying: https://twitter.com/#!/TNG_S8 |
| 03:34 | mtj | if ($auth_status ne "ok") { |
| 03:34 | output_with_http_headers $input, undef, | |
| 03:34 | "window.alert('Your CGI session cookie ($sessid) is not current. " . | |
| 03:34 | wahanui | i already had it that way, mtj. |
| 03:35 | mtj | "Please refresh the page and try again.');\n", 'js'; |
| 03:35 | jcamins | mtj: does that really do nothing other than send the one line of Javascript to the client? |
| 03:35 | mtj | exit 0; |
| 03:35 | } | |
| 03:35 | jcamins | wizzyrea: lol! |
| 03:35 | mtj | yeps O_o |
| 03:35 | wizzyrea | Picard's grandson travels back in time to see if he lives up to the legend. Geordi sings to the warp core when he thinks they're alone. |
| 03:35 | jcamins | How does the client do anything with that? |
| 03:36 | I'm trying to figure out whether that gets inserted into the existing page in some way. | |
| 03:37 | If it does, define a Javascript function in the template, and call it. | |
| 03:37 | Something like ajax_report_auth_error(); | |
| 03:37 | mtj | jcamins: afaik ... its a white page, with 2 lines of text :/ |
| 03:38 | jcamins | mtj: oh, hm. |
| 03:39 | mtj | i need to write a sub to traverse some template/lang/paths to a .tt file |
| 03:40 | jcamins | mtj: why can't you just use a template? Isn't there functionality to use templates without including any of the header and footer? |
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| 03:42 | mtj | ooh, could be here... |
| 03:42 | my $template = C4::Templates::gettemplate( $in->{'template_name'}, $in->{'type'}, $i n->{'query'} ); | |
| 03:42 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag, mtj |
| 03:43 | mtj | that might be the go :) |
| 03:43 | jcamins | That looks reasonable. Ask rangi. |
| 03:43 | :) | |
| 03:46 | mtj | ta, i think i'm sorted - thanks for the brain-slap jcamins :) |
| 03:46 | and hi amit! | |
| 03:46 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 03:48 | * jcamins | likes the the Quantum Dolphin episode. |
| 03:57 | bag | heya Amit_Gupta |
| 03:57 | hey mtj | |
| 03:57 | mtj? | |
| 03:57 | wahanui | DeM KraZy NutZ!! |
| 03:58 | mtj | aaah, that olde chestnut... |
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| 05:07 | * eythian | builds 3.6.4 packages |
| 05:19 | eythian | build fails due to lack of disk space :/ |
| 05:20 | (which confuses me as I should have enough | |
| 05:25 | ) | |
| 05:30 | ah, that worked better | |
| 05:34 | 3.6.4 packages uploaded | |
| 05:34 | * eythian | does the same for master |
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| 05:35 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:41 | eythian | hi cait |
| 05:42 | cait | hi eythian |
| 05:45 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait, eythian |
| 05:46 | eythian | hiya |
| 05:47 | * eythian | uploads the packages for master |
| 06:02 | cait | yay :) |
| 06:18 | * eythian | heads off to see The Mutton Birds play |
| 06:23 | cait | have fun |
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| 07:15 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
| 07:23 | cait | hi magnus :) |
| 07:24 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
| 07:24 | @wunder konstanz | |
| 07:24 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.1°C (8:19 AM CET on March 07, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027.3 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:25 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:25 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (7:50 AM CET on March 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Falling). |
| 07:25 | cait | heh |
| 07:25 | not much difference | |
| 07:25 | magnuse | nope |
| 07:25 | well, except for the windchill | |
| 07:25 | @karma windchill | |
| 07:25 | huginn | magnuse: Karma for "windchill" has been increased 0 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of -5. |
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| 07:43 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:44 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 07:44 | mbalmer | good morning, koha world! |
| 07:44 | magnuse | hiya mbalmer |
| 07:44 | reiveune | hi magnuse , cait , mbalmer & everybody |
| 07:46 | cait | morning reiveune and mbalmer |
| 07:47 | mbalmer | hmm, my git repo has changes, how can see a diff against the master branch? git diff seems not to be it.. |
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| 07:47 | julian_m | hi |
| 07:47 | wahanui | privet, julian_m |
| 07:48 | magnuse | mbalmer: are you looking for changes in idividual files or a list of what files has changed? |
| 07:48 | mbalmer | changes in individual files |
| 07:48 | magnuse | i use git status for the latter and git diff <file> for the former |
| 07:49 | i'd say git diff, then | |
| 07:51 | cait | hi julian_m |
| 07:51 | julian_m | hi cait |
| 07:52 | cait | mbalmer: git diff [--name-only] <commitid>..HEAD |
| 07:52 | mbalmer | need to install Koha from git, whish me luck ;) |
| 07:52 | cait, tnx | |
| 07:52 | magnuse | good luck mbalmer :-) |
| 07:52 | cait | good luck - but it's not that hard :) |
| 07:53 | magnuse | it's fun! |
| 07:54 | mbalmer | git rebase HEAD; to bring a branch to HEAD, right? |
| 07:58 | cait | hm |
| 07:58 | HEAD is the latest commig I think | |
| 07:58 | git rebase origin/master | |
| 07:58 | is what I do | |
| 07:58 | after making sure my master branch is up to date | |
| 07:59 | ok, time to go - bbl :) | |
| 07:59 | mbalmer | I did git pull in master, then rebase of my branches |
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| 08:07 | asaurat | hi! |
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| 08:17 | clrh | hello |
| 08:17 | wahanui | hello, clrh |
| 08:17 | francharb | hi |
| 08:32 | magnuse | bonjour asaurat francharb clrh |
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| 08:38 | kf | hi again #koha |
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| 08:58 | Amit_Gupta | heya hdl |
| 08:59 | kf | hi Amit_Gupta, paul_p and hdl |
| 09:03 | paul_p | hi kf & Amit_Gupta & all |
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| 09:06 | Amit_Gupta | heya paul_p, kf |
| 09:06 | gaten around | |
| 09:11 | hdl1 | Amit_Gupta: gaetan seems on the road. |
| 09:11 | Have you tried dropping him an email ? | |
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| 09:24 | clrh | juan_sieira ask me to talk about solr, if you want to join us just do /join #koha-solr |
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| 09:37 | mbalmer | apt-get update does not update my koha packages: |
| 09:37 | Hit http://debian.koha-community.org squeeze-dev Release.gpg | |
| 09:37 | Ign http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ squeeze-dev/main Translation-en | |
| 09:37 | what am I doing wrong? | |
| 09:48 | kf | are there newer packages? |
| 09:49 | mbalmer | ccording to mveron, yes. here I run 3.06.00.002 |
| 09:51 | pbly best to wait for his return | |
| 10:00 | kf | mbalmer: is this for your git installation or for another installation? |
| 10:00 | mbalmer | no, this is for an installation that I installed using packages |
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| 10:08 | magnuse | eythian said he did uploaded packages for 3.6.4 earlier today |
| 10:16 | kf | cool :) |
| 10:20 | hm | |
| 10:20 | how would you label a facet that allows to filter for sets, analytics and monographs? | |
| 10:21 | mbalmer | apt-get upgrade gets the error: |
| 10:21 | The following packages have been kept back: | |
| 10:21 | koha-common | |
| 10:21 | wahanui | i think koha-common is the one you want, the main koha one needs a bit more work (its for setting up a single instance) |
| 10:28 | clrh | happy to see people testing solr :) |
| 10:28 | magnuse | clrh: yay! |
| 10:28 | kf: "confusing"? ;-) | |
| 10:28 | kf | magnuse: :P |
| 10:29 | mbalmer | Software error: |
| 10:29 | Could not create file parser context for file "/usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/de-DE/xslt/MARC21slim2intranetResults.xsl": No such file or directory at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/XSLT.pm line 174 | |
| 10:29 | and that file does not exist | |
| 10:29 | kf | hm |
| 10:29 | mbalmer | the file exists in en/ |
| 10:29 | kf | did the translate process finish? |
| 10:29 | sometimes when there is an error in the po files | |
| 10:29 | the templates will not all be generated correctly | |
| 10:30 | mbalmer: you should see if it does not finish in the output of perl translate install de-DE | |
| 10:31 | mbalmer | the translate did say it finished successfully |
| 10:31 | kf | yes it will |
| 10:31 | but it will not run through all files | |
| 10:32 | check if it did output the file you are missing and if it's not there, where it stopped | |
| 10:41 | mbalmer: are you usng the po files from pootle or those in Koha? and which version of Koha? | |
| 10:46 | mbalmer | it is Koha 3.07.00.019, installed from a package, and in english it works like a charm. |
| 10:46 | kf | ah |
| 10:46 | the po files are outdated | |
| 10:46 | there are probably gazillion problems with it | |
| 10:46 | what you can try is | |
| 10:47 | perl translate update de-DE | |
| 10:47 | Culiforge | trying to resolve an install issue of koha-common on 10.04. Seems to be centered around libmodern-perl-perl. Had to use a ppa for it, not available in suggested repos. I could be bonkers but I think it's not letting the koha install do it's thing properly |
| 10:47 | kf | and then perl translate install de-DE |
| 10:47 | but I am not sure it will fix all problems - it will add new strings to the file and mark a lot of things fuzzy | |
| 10:47 | but that means a lot of things will show up in english | |
| 10:47 | translation for master will be started shortly before release of 3.8 | |
| 10:47 | mbalmer | kf, oh, I only did translate update, not translate install, let's se... |
| 10:48 | kf | you can find the problems in the po file using poedit |
| 10:48 | mbalmer | yeah!!! |
| 10:48 | kf | there is probably some 'placeholders not matching' thing going on |
| 10:49 | you could also try to use the po file for 3.4.6 - might give you a better result, because lots of patches in both are the same and more things might show up translated | |
| 10:55 | Amit_Gupta | heya magnuse |
| 10:58 | kf | mbalmer: sodid it work? |
| 10:59 | mbalmer | kf, yes. |
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| 11:01 | janPasi | still software error :( |
| 11:02 | this is a completely new installation on debian squeeze | |
| 11:02 | and we're experiencing the same problem with checkin/checkout as before | |
| 11:02 | with slackware | |
| 11:02 | what on earth is this about??? | |
| 11:03 | [Wed Mar 7 13:03:08 2012] returns.pl: Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2982., referer: http://xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/cgi-bi[…]rc/circulation.pl | |
| 11:04 | help! :D | |
| 11:04 | the problem must be with the database, but what could be wrong with it | |
| 11:08 | remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl says this: | |
| 11:08 | Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2943. | |
| 11:11 | how can this installation not work while the other that is practically identical (except for the data in the database) works fine | |
| 11:11 | i don't get this | |
| 11:13 | slef | that sort of subfield on an undefined value usually means the database doesn't have some required field IIRC |
| 11:14 | janPasi: look at Admin: Check MARC structure I think | |
| 11:14 | also, look around /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2943 to see where the pattern should came from if it wasn't failing | |
| 11:15 | I'm having some fun with a data file I've been given | |
| 11:16 | it's been exported as fields named after the tag name like "T254" with all subfields combined like "12^aThis is subfield a^aThis is subfield a^bThis is subfield b^bThis is subfield b" | |
| 11:16 | I think I'm going to have to write a custom filter for it, for the deduplication of subfields if nothing else. Unless anyone has seen it before? | |
| 11:17 | janPasi | thanks slef, i'll check that |
| 11:17 | the database must be broken somehow | |
| 11:18 | bibliographic framewoerk test passes | |
| 11:18 | configuration ok, it saus | |
| 11:18 | says even | |
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| 11:21 | slef | janPasi: that narrows it down to the data. Does it happen on one item, one biblio or all? |
| 11:21 | janPasi | all of them |
| 11:22 | slef | sounds systemic :( maybe an error at import time |
| 11:23 | janPasi | or an error in the import file |
| 11:23 | i.e. the dump of an old koha database | |
| 11:23 | there's probably something wrong with it | |
| 11:28 | slef | any interesting errors when you ran update database on it? |
| 11:28 | or when you loaded it into mysql | |
| 11:33 | kf | janPasi: how old was the database? which version? |
| 11:35 | janPasi | i think the original was from version 3.4 |
| 11:35 | or maybe 3.2, i'm not 100% sure | |
| 11:35 | kf | hm not that old then |
| 11:36 | janPasi | no, but we had some server problems, so maybe that's when the database got borked |
| 11:36 | i'll try to find working dumps and see if i can get it working | |
| 11:41 | kf | asaurat++ :) |
| 11:41 | nice bug report :) | |
| 11:44 | slef | kf: "a spider fried itself across the CPU of my koha server and it stopped working"? ;) |
| 11:45 | kf | slef: that's anice one too |
| 11:45 | but was talking about bug 7659 | |
| 11:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7659 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , "Import all" for a staged file doesn't check for duplicates |
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| 13:13 | paul_p_ | kf you have problems with crawlers ? |
| 13:14 | kf I ask because we have too. Since something like 2-3 weeks, there's something new in googlbot, bingbot & baidubot, and we have a *lot* of problems ! | |
| 13:14 | kf I have to write an email to koha-devel ... | |
| 13:15 | kf | paul_p_: we get the bots but so far it's not a problem |
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| 13:15 | kf | paul_p_: there is a robots text |
| 13:15 | as an example in koha somewhere - perhaps tell them to not crawl you? | |
| 13:15 | paul_p_ | kf does it say disallow: / ? |
| 13:15 | kf | not by defualt |
| 13:16 | but I think you can activate it | |
| 13:16 | paul_p_: we had no problems with the servers so far, but we noticed that a lot of our traffic is from the bots | |
| 13:16 | bug 6411 | |
| 13:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6411 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, add another example to README.robots file |
| 13:17 | paul_p_ | kf yep, same thing for us. And it overloaded the server for us, 3 times last weeks :(((( |
| 13:17 | kf | ouch :( |
| 13:17 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8343716b2105ab047 | |
| 13:17 | I think you perhaps have to rename it to be robots.txt - perhaps move it into another directory, not sure | |
| 13:18 | ah, no it's examples | |
| 13:19 | jcamins_away | paul_p, ByWater had many problems. |
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| 13:20 | jcamins_away | trea can tell you more about that probably. |
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| 13:34 | kf | paul_p_: I have asked my coworkers - no problems so far |
| 13:34 | paul_p_ | kf and a robot.txt active ? |
| 13:34 | kf | nope |
| 13:34 | Shane-S | would it make sense for all the images to consistently be encased in the same element? ie. I think a div, with a common class among them, a unique class per cover type (ie bcgoogle, bcamazon, bclocal, etc.) |
| 13:35 | At least on the OPAC results for now | |
| 13:35 | paul_p_ | kf really ? wow... lucky you |
| 13:35 | jcamins_away i'll send a mail to koha-devel, even if don't have as many details as i'd like | |
| 13:35 | kf | paul_p_: smaller libraries? different hardware? I don't know |
| 13:38 | oleonard | Shane-S: Sounds sensible to me |
| 13:38 | Shane-S | reading the opac-results.tt Amazon is just a raw image, local images are in a <span>, goolgle and OL are in <div>.. |
| 13:39 | oleonard: okay, I will bug it and work on that. I also have to see where to patch line 58 from a previous bug and I will submit that, you responded yesterday to it | |
| 13:42 | oleonard: if I space the [IFs] <line return> HTML <line return> [ENDS] will that cause any issue that you know of? | |
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| 13:43 | Shane-S | Might as well make it easier to read then a single line going half-way across the page |
| 13:43 | oleonard | It will not, but make whitespace changes judiciously as it can make testing patches (seeing differences) more difficult |
| 13:43 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 13:44 | * tcohen | thinks Eclipse + EPIC + Egit = Happiness |
| 13:45 | oleonard | EPIC? |
| 13:47 | Shane-S | we don't make variables in the template files right? (was thinking of making [% var amazonurl= <ulr>; googleurl = <url>; %] |
| 13:49 | kf | Epic - perl for eclipse I think |
| 13:49 | hdl | kf yep |
| 13:51 | tcohen | exactly |
| 13:51 | kf | tried it once, but had problems to make koha a project |
| 13:52 | oleonard | Shane-S: It might be possible but doesn't seem like it would be very readable |
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| 13:54 | Shane-S | oleonard: true...looking at it I wouldn't be saving much in the way of space, I will skip that idea, there are no duplicate URLS, at first I thought there were. |
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| 14:27 | paul_p_ | oleonard Ohio voted yesterday, right ? |
| 14:27 | oleonard | Yes. |
| 14:27 | paul_p_ | and the result are ? |
| 14:28 | oleonard | The newspaper I saw said Mitt Romney won |
| 14:28 | I was more interested in the local elections since I could vote for candidates I cared about. | |
| 14:53 | mbalmer | Air France cancelled one of my flights to Marseille |
| 14:54 | kf | ouch! |
| 14:55 | mbalmer | I still don't know which leg, though |
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| 14:59 | mbalmer | they cancelled the flight back.. |
| 14:59 | kf | ah |
| 14:59 | not that bad | |
| 15:00 | only means you have to stay in marseille :) | |
| 15:00 | clrh | mbalmer: actually you'll just have to stay with the sun |
| 15:01 | mbalmer | it actually means that I have to fly back on friday afternoon. |
| 15:02 | the saturday flight is cancelled. | |
| 15:02 | so I will leave earlier | |
| 15:02 | kf | annoying |
| 15:03 | mbalmer | it's Air France, what do you expect ;) |
| 15:03 | kf | they sent my luggage to helsinki once, when it was supposed to go to st petersburg... |
| 15:04 | school exchange trauma | |
| 15:04 | asaurat | they simply considered that st petersburg was too dangerous for you |
| 15:04 | security feature | |
| 15:04 | kf | it was cold without my warm clothes! |
| 15:04 | oleonard | The sent my cat to Colorado Springs when she was supposed to go to Columbus. |
| 15:04 | kf | they wanted me to freeze! : |
| 15:05 | mbalmer | as long as they don't me to marseille and my brain elsewhere... |
| 15:05 | asaurat | :D |
| 15:06 | only the Concorde could do that, but it's out of service | |
| 15:07 | mbalmer | well, friday 15:00 or saturday 10:00 is not that big of difference, but I miss a nice evening with you guys. |
| 15:08 | kf | I leave saturday morning, so not that much later |
| 15:08 | but was all a bit hurried last year, so happy to leave on saturday | |
| 15:08 | * Shane-S | is trying to install Koha on his vm...and the docs have a sudo cpan ... ::Memcached <newline> PDF:: is that supposed to be 1 line? |
| 15:13 | kf | I would think so |
| 15:13 | mbalmer | kf, from which airport are you flying? |
| 15:13 | kf | not flying |
| 15:13 | train | |
| 15:13 | mbalmer | oh, isn't that long? |
| 15:13 | kf | I looked for flights but was not happy with the times |
| 15:13 | yes, it is | |
| 15:13 | mbalmer | get an extra battery for your laptop.. |
| 15:13 | kf | but from konstanz everything is long |
| 15:14 | asaurat | yeah, needed 3 weeks to make only konstanz-besançon :D |
| 15:14 | * kf | will start the hackfest on the train ;) |
| 15:14 | Shane-S | do I need to make a koha db before installing koha or will it do that? |
| 15:14 | the web installer that is | |
| 15:15 | kf | 7:44 konstanz - marselle |
| 15:15 | Shane-S | ; |
| 15:15 | kf | Shane-S: are you using the packages? or making a standard/dev installation? |
| 15:15 | mbalmer | I once went to leipzig by train, from basel, that was quite a journey, but very nice. |
| 15:15 | Shane-S | woops wrong screen :P, using git method |
| 15:16 | kf | yes |
| 15:16 | Shane-S | kk just checking...back to step by step :) |
| 15:16 | kf | you have to create a database and grant permissions to your user, it should be in the install notes |
| 15:19 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
| 15:19 | kf | wb jcamins :) |
| 15:20 | asaurat | kf: branch transfer limits deactivated ?! what do you mean ? IndependantBranchesOn by default ? or something else ? |
| 15:20 | kf | nope |
| 15:20 | let me find the pref | |
| 15:21 | UseBranchTransferLimits | |
| 15:21 | BranchTransferLimitsType | |
| 15:22 | asaurat | ok, I'll see that, that probably means that the checkbox would only appear if UseBranchTransferLimits is Activated |
| 15:22 | we have to see if it's worth it | |
| 15:23 | kf | ok, I have a problem that is giving me headache |
| 15:23 | asaurat | I think so, because in 3.6 it can be painful to uncheck all the necessary boxes with all these ccode tabs |
| 15:23 | kf | we have a library that gets logged out of koha every 10 minutes |
| 15:23 | it does not happen for me | |
| 15:24 | but it does also happen to a coworker of mine | |
| 15:24 | and I am not sure what's going on | |
| 15:24 | jcamins | kf: you have a long train trip, but at least you get to go to Marseille. :) |
| 15:24 | Ah, I've encountered that. | |
| 15:24 | Do they get any sort of error message? | |
| 15:24 | kf | asaurat: not sure either - was only wondering. perhaps you could show a note that it's activated deactivated, like the branch transfer page does |
| 15:24 | asaurat: so it will not cause confusion | |
| 15:25 | jcamins: no | |
| 15:25 | jcamins: they just get logged out it seems | |
| 15:26 | jcamins | kf: hrm. That was the problem that inspired bug 6800, but I was getting an error about changed IP addresses. |
| 15:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6800 major, P3, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Koha authentication should handle proxies better |
| 15:26 | kf | hm |
| 15:26 | Shane-S | I use dev to run from my kohaclone right? |
| 15:26 | kf | I guess we could ask them if that happens |
| 15:26 | jcamins | Shane-S: yes. |
| 15:26 | kf | but it would not explain my coworkers problem -same network |
| 15:26 | I mean it should behave the same for me and her | |
| 15:26 | but it doesn't | |
| 15:27 | jcamins | kf: I also encountered something similar with a server that was out of diskspace on /tmp |
| 15:27 | Shane-S | my koha clone is in /home/shane/kohaclone, should I use /home/shane/koha-dev for configs? |
| 15:27 | jcamins | Shane-S: yes. |
| 15:27 | kf | jcamins: still unlikely - because we are working in the same installations |
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| 15:28 | jcamins | kf: true. |
| 15:28 | Shane-S | shit...I messed up |
| 15:28 | it typed ) versus _ | |
| 15:28 | can I re-do the Makefile.PL? | |
| 15:28 | kf | yes |
| 15:28 | you can run it as often as you want | |
| 15:28 | I usually make typos... and have to do that | |
| 15:30 | Shane-S | install Zebra, I assume yes as Koah uses it right? |
| 15:30 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 15:30 | Shane-S | well the config for now |
| 15:30 | jcamins | You must use Zebra. |
| 15:30 | Shane-S | uhh...Zebra database password? same as mysql user? |
| 15:31 | jcamins | Shane-S: whatever. You won't use it. |
| 15:31 | Shane-S | oh its not for an SQL db? |
| 15:31 | jcamins | No, just for Zebra. |
| 15:32 | Shane-S | k, packages didn't ask all this :P |
| 15:33 | on to the make stage :P | |
| 15:33 | * Shane-S | gets nervous with tons of lines of code |
| 15:33 | jcamins | Shane-S: no, it assigns random passwords. |
| 15:34 | Shane-S | my make test failed :( |
| 15:34 | jcamins | Shane-S: did you tell it to run the db-dependent tests? |
| 15:35 | Shane-S | default was no |
| 15:35 | so no | |
| 15:35 | jcamins | Good. |
| 15:35 | Shane-S: you can probably ignore the error... he says without checking. | |
| 15:36 | pastebot | "Shane-S" at 68.39.74.226 pasted "Error" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/297 |
| 15:40 | oleonard | As far as I know make test usually fails. |
| 15:40 | (yay for us) | |
| 15:44 | maximep | modern perl missing ? |
| 15:44 | Shane-S | well I will move forawrd and see what happens |
| 15:44 | worst case I hose the VM and start over | |
| 15:50 | i want to pull any configs like the apache conf from ym koha-dev folder, not my kohaclone right? | |
| 15:51 | jcamins | Shane-S: right. |
| 16:03 | Shane-S | i never edit the crontab, anyone know what it is called on Ubuntu? like how I can edit it with pico/vim/vi/pine |
| 16:04 | jcamins | crontab -e |
| 16:05 | Shane-S | ty |
| 16:06 | wizzyrea | right, Shane |
| 16:06 | you need the modern perl dependency | |
| 16:06 | I can't remember what the package is for it... | |
| 16:06 | libmodern-perl-perl | |
| 16:06 | I think | |
| 16:07 | Shane-S | apt-get? |
| 16:07 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 16:08 | Shane-S | libmodern-perl worked...do I need to re-do my make install? |
| 16:11 | jcamins | paul_p: clrh: I heard I missed a meeting about the solr integration? Any chance I could get a copy of the log? |
| 16:12 | wizzyrea | nope |
| 16:12 | paul_p | jcamins clrh can help you, not me. /me is fighting against your authorities bug, and has many problems setting up a working box. Plus some fear that it doesn't cover UNIMARC... |
| 16:12 | wizzyrea | at least, i don't think so? |
| 16:12 | it was the test that failed right? | |
| 16:14 | jcamins | paul_p: well, that's kind of fun, anyway! |
| 16:14 | paul_p: it should work with UNIMARC, I think. I didn't test it very thoroughly, but fredericd did work to add UNIMARC support. | |
| 16:14 | clrh | yep jcamins |
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| 16:14 | Shane-S | wizzyrea: yeah, the install had no errors |
| 16:14 | clrh | I can be available for speak about it :) could you give me your mail pls? |
| 16:14 | Shane-S | I am done the crontab...not for the "web" install |
| 16:15 | jcamins | Thanks! |
| 16:15 | Shane-S | aw... Not Found |
| 16:15 | wizzyrea | that's gonna be in your apache config |
| 16:15 | try an a2dissite default | |
| 16:15 | apache2ctl restart | |
| 16:16 | Shane-S | nope...have to find what is wrong |
| 16:16 | probably a typo on my part linking the config | |
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| 16:18 | jcamins | clrh++ # thank you! |
| 16:18 | paul_p | jcamins just FYI = during hackfest in Marseille (in less than 2 weeks from now !!!), there will be a group including BibLibre dev & zeno tajoli that will work on solr integration 1st steps. |
| 16:18 | Shane-S | well text editing from /etc/ap2/sites-av/koha opened the config file fine.... |
| 16:18 | paul_p | ( just FYI of all = many new register for this hackfest, from french librarians. We will be ... 32 !!! ) |
| 16:19 | (non-french ppl will be a minority, but we're happy to have them ;-) -kf, oleonard & others-) | |
| 16:19 | clrh | jcamins: you're welcome! |
| 16:20 | Shane-S | okay, now I am lost...not sure what is causing Not Found by apache |
| 16:20 | permissions maybe? I thought would be like a 505 | |
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| 16:22 | paul_p | Shane-S not found is not a permission problem. Apache did not found the page you're asking at all. If you couldn't read/execute it, the error message would have been different |
| 16:22 | Shane-S | <VirtualHost 127.0.0.1:80> DocumentRoot /home/shane/kohaclone/koha-tmpl |
| 16:23 | jcamins | paul_p: what problems are you encountering with installing? |
| 16:24 | paul_p | jcamins nevermind, I just solved it = one of my config file was saying "marc21" where my datas are "unimarc". can't work... |
| 16:24 | jcamins | paul_p: yeah, I didn't add anything to warn you about mismatched config and data. |
| 16:24 | ;) | |
| 16:25 | paul_p | (it was BEFORE applying your patch. Now i'll have to play WITH it !) |
| 16:25 | jcamins | Though that'd be a kind of cool feature... "hey, you! You have the wrong data in here!) |
| 16:25 | :) | |
| 16:25 | Told you this would be fun. | |
| 16:25 | :) | |
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| 16:27 | * Shane-S | is stuck the documentroots are correct in the koha-httpd.conf file |
| 16:28 | jcamins | Shane-S: could you have missed a step? |
| 16:29 | wizzyrea | perhaps you ahve 127.0.1.1 and are typing 127.0.0.1 |
| 16:29 | jcamins | Oh, good point. I always change it to *. |
| 16:29 | * wizzyrea | too |
| 16:29 | Shane-S | wizzyrea: I was using "localhost" and 192.168.0.101 from my PC |
| 16:30 | let em check | |
| 16:30 | wizzyrea | try with the ip 127.0.1.1 |
| 16:30 | localhost is 0.1 | |
| 16:30 | usually | |
| 16:30 | but the default config for koha, for whatever god knows what reason | |
| 16:30 | puts in 1.1 | |
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| 16:30 | wizzyrea | sup indy :) |
| 16:31 | Shane-S | oh for the love of god...I didn't notice that... |
| 16:31 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 16:31 | * Shane-S | makes it * |
| 16:31 | wizzyrea | that one has gotten me several times over. |
| 16:31 | omgwtfisntthisworkingiamnotamoron | |
| 16:32 | jcamins | Maybe the default should be *. |
| 16:32 | wizzyrea | or 0.1 |
| 16:32 | I think the installer gets it from the OS | |
| 16:32 | somehow. | |
| 16:32 | it's tricky | |
| 16:32 | reiveune | bye |
| 16:32 | Shane-S | if its * by default...what is the issue, should stop anyone from typing any valid IP of the system right? |
| 16:32 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #644 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:33 | jcamins | Bug 3516 |
| 16:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3516 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Display picture of patrons in OPAC |
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| 16:33 | wizzyrea | I don't really have a preference :P |
| 16:34 | Shane-S | shouldn't* |
| 16:34 | * Shane-S | takes 5 his back hurts in his chair today |
| 16:35 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3516 follow-up - DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e537eb5360a7c3415> / Bug 3516 [FOLLOW-UP] Display picture of patrons in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9a5d1fc1743a0c330> / Bug 3516 [REVISED] Display picture of patrons in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]t;a=commitdiff;h= |
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| 17:00 | clrh | bye all |
| 17:05 | paul_p | jcamins question on bug 7284 ! |
| 17:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 17:05 | jcamins | paul_p: hopefully I have an answer! :) |
| 17:05 | How can I help you? | |
| 17:07 | paul_p: Match-heading is missing? | |
| 17:07 | Hmm. | |
| 17:07 | paul_p | seems yes... |
| 17:07 | jcamins | I thought I got that name from UNIMARC. |
| 17:07 | One moment while I check that. | |
| 17:08 | paul_p | jcamins I made a grep -R "Match-heading", and nothing on UNIMARC about that |
| 17:08 | Shane-S | hmm how can i add sample data after install? |
| 17:08 | kf | wasn't there a patch from frederic about indexing for unimcarc authorities? |
| 17:09 | jcamins | kf: yeah, but that should be optional. |
| 17:09 | paul_p | kf yes, but it was not a follow-up, it was a "added into jcamins patch" |
| 17:09 | jcamins | paul_p: there's also an added DOM indexing config from fredericd. |
| 17:10 | (but that shouldn't be necessary, that's just nice;) | |
| 17:10 | paul_p | jcamins where ? in your patch ? I think I applied all what was in the patch |
| 17:10 | * paul_p | double checking... |
| 17:10 | jcamins | No, it's a separate bug. |
| 17:10 | * jcamins | was responding to kf's question. |
| 17:10 | wizzyrea | aha, just found a bug in syndetics |
| 17:10 | things with no ISBN show no image | |
| 17:10 | s/broken image/no image/ | |
| 17:11 | jcamins | paul_p: oh, I see why I didn't put it in. |
| 17:12 | Match-heading goes on all *main* headings that have Match. | |
| 17:12 | Match-heading-see-from goes on all *see-from* headings that have Match. | |
| 17:13 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #644: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/644/ |
| 17:13 | * oleonard: Bug 3516 [REVISED] Display picture of patrons in OPAC | |
| 17:13 | * oleonard: Bug 3516 [FOLLOW-UP] Display picture of patrons in OPAC | |
| 17:13 | * paul.poulain: Bug 3516 follow-up - DBRev number | |
| 17:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3516 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Display picture of patrons in OPAC |
| 17:13 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I blame the original author :P |
| 17:13 | wizzyrea | what was that you? |
| 17:13 | :P | |
| 17:13 | jcamins | unimarc? |
| 17:13 | wahanui | unimarc is mostly used in france, i think it's fair to say? |
| 17:13 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 17:14 | oleonard | wizzyrea: No, someone else I like to heap blame on |
| 17:14 | jcamins | wahanui: forget unimarc. |
| 17:14 | wahanui | jcamins: I forgot unimarc |
| 17:14 | wizzyrea | oh oh oh, I'm following now |
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| 17:14 | * wizzyrea | toddles along behind oleonard's train of thought |
| 17:14 | jcamins | unimarc is http://www.ifla.org/en/publica[…]ted-documentation |
| 17:14 | kf | hmmm |
| 17:15 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Should be easy to correct based on the other examples |
| 17:15 | jcamins | paul_p: so, 2xx = authorised heading, 4xx = see-from? |
| 17:15 | wizzyrea | *nod* I was just thinking that |
| 17:15 | paul_p | jcamins yep |
| 17:15 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Someone in your system just add Syndetics? |
| 17:15 | wizzyrea | we are trialing it |
| 17:15 | i half wonder if it's not a TT issue | |
| 17:16 | idk how many actually use syndetics. | |
| 17:16 | and a step further, how many of them are using Koha and not one of the forks. | |
| 17:16 | oleonard | It's not a TT issue, I can tell from the template |
| 17:16 | wizzyrea | you are way too fast |
| 17:17 | paul_p | jcamins and 5xx "related" block |
| 17:17 | oleonard | There's no "[% IF SEARCH_RESULT.normalized_isbn %]" wrapped around the output |
| 17:17 | wizzyrea | ooo |
| 17:17 | jcamins | paul_p: just a tick and I'll have a patch for record.abs. |
| 17:18 | Don't move, it's almost done. :) | |
| 17:18 | maximep | I wish I could forget marc21 as fast as wahanui forgot unimarc |
| 17:18 | wizzyrea | not on line 538? |
| 17:18 | paul_p | jcamins i'll test it in a few hours, it's almost time to go back home for me (6:20PM here) |
| 17:18 | wizzyrea | oh IF |
| 17:18 | derp. | |
| 17:18 | jcamins | paul_p: fair enough. |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | bug 7665 |
| 17:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7665 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Bibs with no ISBN's show broken images for covers when using Syndetics cover images. |
| 17:22 | kf | hmm |
| 17:22 | why would my new suggestions not show up on the start page? | |
| 17:23 | jcamins | kf: your computer doesn't like the idea of adding another "Test book" to your catalog? ;) |
| 17:23 | wizzyrea | oleonard - I will patch that, unless you are already on it |
| 17:23 | kf | pff |
| 17:24 | jcamins: I was documenting hte new feature and now it stopped working | |
| 17:24 | bad karma | |
| 17:24 | oleonard | No, I'll let you do it since you have Syndetics credentials |
| 17:24 | wizzyrea | kk cool |
| 17:24 | * oleonard | once asked LibraryThing if I could have access for testing and got no response |
| 17:25 | kf | :( |
| 17:28 | jcamins | Ooh! I'm using kf's catalog! :D |
| 17:30 | kf | huh? |
| 17:31 | jcamins | kf: for my cataloging, I'm using SWB. :) |
| 17:32 | kf | ah :) |
| 17:32 | z39.50? | |
| 17:32 | wahanui | i guess z39.50 is the ANSI standard of the beast. |
| 17:32 | jcamins | No, OPAC. |
| 17:32 | kf | ah |
| 17:32 | paul_p | bye #koha, see you tomorrow |
| 17:32 | jcamins | Just doing research about this book. |
| 17:34 | kf | bye paul_p |
| 17:39 | * jcamins | goes to eat some lunch. |
| 17:39 | jcamins | paul_p: bye. Told you this would be fun! :) |
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| 17:49 | * jcamins | returns, having eaten some lunch. |
| 17:52 | jcamins | Remind me why I ever buy bread from the grocery store in Forest Hills? |
| 17:52 | I just had hummus with some bread from a higher end store in the city, and it makes the hummus taste *so* much better. | |
| 17:53 | * oleonard | shakes his fist at the grocery store in Forest Hills |
| 17:56 | jcamins | oleonard: yeah, it's sad... in Astoria, we had a wonderful bakery just down the street. |
| 17:56 | Here, there isn't really any bread bakery at all. | |
| 17:56 | Other than my kitchen. | |
| 17:57 | Which, thankfully, produces delicious bread, at least when it's not roach-infested. | |
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| 18:04 | slef | mmmm, roachy bread |
| 18:05 | kf | eew |
| 18:05 | jcamins | slef: I had a question for you... |
| 18:05 | Oh yeah. | |
| 18:05 | Unrelated to Koha, so I'll PM you. | |
| 18:05 | kf | why is noone telling me to go home today? :) |
| 18:06 | it's time! | |
| 18:06 | bye all | |
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| 18:13 | Shane-S | how do I re-index zebra? |
| 18:14 | jcamins | misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r |
| 18:14 | Shane-S | ty |
| 18:17 | pastebot | "Shane-S" at 68.39.74.226 pasted "Perl error w/ Zebra" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/298 |
| 18:18 | Shane-S | any idea how I can fix that? |
| 18:18 | jcamins | I haven't looked at the error, but did you follow the instructions that said "be sure to export KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB variables"? |
| 18:18 | * jcamins | looks at the error. |
| 18:18 | was right. ;) | |
| 18:19 | * Shane-S | re-checks the guide |
| 18:19 | jcamins | I think it printed a message about that after the installation. |
| 18:19 | These two commands are what you need: | |
| 18:19 | export KOHA_CONF=/home/shane/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml | |
| 18:19 | export PERL5LIB=/home/shane/kohaclone | |
| 18:19 | I recommend adding both of those to your .profile. | |
| 18:21 | Shane-S | no i never did that, I don;t recall such a message, but wasn;t looking for it either |
| 18:22 | yep its there, still in my terminal :P | |
| 18:26 | slef | Does anyone know if there's an easy way to set those for a site in /etc/koha/sites? Or to run a command on only one site through koha-foreach? |
| 18:27 | jcamins | slef: you know, I don't think there is. There should be, to go with koha-mysql. |
| 18:28 | slef | joy another enh bug to file :) |
| 18:30 | bag | heya slef |
| 18:31 | slef | hi bag |
| 18:31 | Shane-S | jcamins: is there a way to check if they are set? I did the command and put them in /etc/enviroment (without export of course) |
| 18:31 | I just re-booted and it still fails, same error | |
| 18:31 | jcamins | echo $KOHA_CONF |
| 18:31 | echo $PERL5LIB | |
| 18:33 | pastebot | "Shane-S" at 68.39.74.226 pasted "Paths" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/299 |
| 18:34 | jcamins | That looks right to me. |
| 18:35 | pastebot | "Shane-S" at 68.39.74.226 pasted "Error after paths..." (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/300 |
| 18:36 | Shane-S | should I not run it from /usr/share/koha/? |
| 18:36 | jcamins | Shane-S: PERL5LIB is not being exported. |
| 18:37 | And, no, you should be running everything from /home/shane/kohaclone | |
| 18:37 | I recommend just putting the export commands in ~/.profile. | |
| 18:37 | That works. | |
| 18:37 | I don't know what /etc/environment does. | |
| 18:38 | (but clearly not what you want) | |
| 18:39 | Shane-S | okay...what is ~? |
| 18:39 | path to? | |
| 18:39 | jcamins | Your home directory. |
| 18:39 | Shane-S | kk thanks |
| 18:40 | will that work for the cron job though? | |
| 18:41 | jcamins | No, you have to put the variables in the crontab, as instructed. |
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| 18:44 | cait | hi again #koha |
| 18:44 | jcamins | Hello. |
| 18:44 | Shane-S | I don't see that anywhere on my document for lucid lynx is it somewhere else? |
| 18:45 | jcamins | ...What instructions are you following? |
| 18:45 | Shane-S | one second the guest OS copy and paste stop working |
| 18:45 | jcamins | I mean, which file? |
| 18:46 | Shane-S | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ntu.lucid;hb=HEAD |
| 18:46 | jcamins | We have got to get rid of all the outdated instructions. |
| 18:46 | Shane-S | saddie |
| 18:46 | wizzyrea | yea, we should either just keep them on the wiki |
| 18:46 | Shane-S | damn wrong window sagin :P |
| 18:47 | jcamins | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bian;hb=HEAD#l265 |
| 18:47 | * wizzyrea | hopes that wasn't the password |
| 18:47 | Shane-S | Co-worker's name :P chatting w/ work |
| 18:48 | password is password :ROFL: | |
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| 18:49 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I just saw *******. |
| 18:51 | slef | If you need to remove something from the wrong chat window, highlight it and press alt+f4</old-joke> |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | *** wizzyrea disconnects |
| 18:51 | ;) | |
| 18:52 | Shane-S | Im about to hand out shell access to jcamins cause apparently am too stupid to get this working |
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | it would not be the first time ^.^ |
| 18:53 | jcamins | Shane-S: nah, you just had bad instructions. |
| 18:53 | Shane-S | so i restarted and same error when rebuilding |
| 18:53 | jcamins | You shouldn't need to restart. |
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | yea, you *can* just run the command each time |
| 18:53 | i mean, that's not optimal | |
| 18:53 | jcamins | If you run the two export... commands from the command line, and then immediately run the indexer, do you get that error? |
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | but for testing |
| 18:54 | Shane-S | i added the exports to ~/.profile |
| 18:54 | hang on...starts typing...slowly | |
| 18:55 | jcamins | Well that's intriguing... a sitemap generator. |
| 18:56 | Shane-S | yes I do...I can pastbin the terminal to show you |
| 18:56 | jcamins | Okay, in that case there is something we're missing here. |
| 18:56 | Where did you clone Koha to? | |
| 18:57 | Shane-S | lol |
| 18:57 | errored IRC | |
| 18:57 | ... /home/shane/kohaclone | |
| 18:57 | jcamins | Which is exactly what you set PERL5LIB to. |
| 18:58 | And just to confirm, if you run "ls /home/shane/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm" you get a result, right? | |
| 18:58 | * Shane-S | tries that |
| 18:59 | Shane-S | yes, just without the "ls" |
| 18:59 | bag | @wunder 93109 |
| 18:59 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 14.0°C (10:59 AM PST on March 07, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:00 | * jcamins | is out of ideas. |
| 19:00 | Shane-S | should it be more then 1 file? |
| 19:00 | jcamins | No, just the one. |
| 19:01 | Shane-S | okay, what I thought, as we specified a file |
| 19:01 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 19:01 | I was just confirming that you weren't somehow missing files. | |
| 19:04 | Shane-S | Koha itself install fine, web works, but the indexing isn't |
| 19:05 | jcamins | Shane-S: in the Apache config, there will be some SetEnv lines. |
| 19:06 | Turn those into export VARIABLE=value lines, and try running those, then run the reindex again. | |
| 19:07 | Shane-S | so... KOHA_CONF "/home to KOHA_CONF="/home |
| 19:08 | wizzyrea | oleonard: do you have a preference on TT indentation |
| 19:08 | oleonard | No. In fact I'm very inconsistent. |
| 19:08 | wizzyrea | aha. Ok. |
| 19:09 | I was looking at the syndetics stuff, it was all flat and very confusing | |
| 19:09 | jcamins | export KOHA_CONF=/home... |
| 19:09 | wizzyrea: three tabs. :P | |
| 19:09 | wizzyrea | I had to indent it just to make sense of it :P |
| 19:09 | bag | how about permissions? jcamins I haven't been following along. Just a thought? |
| 19:09 | wizzyrea | anyway, I put it back the way it was, more or less |
| 19:09 | well, less, since I fixed it :P | |
| 19:09 | rangi | Look for an HTML tidy thing wizzyrea we could use that like we use perltidy |
| 19:10 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Some have proposed that we follow some kind of tidy rule for templates, and I'd be okay with that but we'd have to agree and impelment |
| 19:10 | jcamins | bag: could be. I'm stymied at this point. |
| 19:10 | Shane-S | jcamins: sorry to be dense... leave the SetEnv or replace that with export? |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 19:10 | jcamins | replace the SetEnv with export. |
| 19:10 | bag | Shane-S: do a quick ls-lh on koha-dev |
| 19:11 | * slef | moves bag's space bar |
| 19:11 | bag | hey jcamins I didn't see the error message - are we just having problems with setting the env.. or other things? |
| 19:11 | heh thanks slef | |
| 19:11 | ls -lh | |
| 19:11 | rangi | Who wants to reply to kudos thread pumping kohacon? |
| 19:11 | jcamins | bag: the problem is seemingly just with setting the environment up for indexing. |
| 19:12 | bag | bummer |
| 19:12 | :( | |
| 19:12 | slef | Could someone save me logging into a master koha and tell me if the child/father/mother terminology is still (ab)used for organisation-type patron categories in the latest master? |
| 19:12 | rangi | Pimping too |
| 19:12 | Shane-S | jcamins: restarting apache failed it no like "export: |
| 19:12 | jcamins | Shane-S: sorry, the Apache config was correct... I want you to copy that to your terminal. |
| 19:13 | Shane-S | lol oh! |
| 19:13 | you said change so i did :P | |
| 19:13 | jcamins | Sorry. |
| 19:13 | * jcamins | is focusing on work right now. ;) |
| 19:14 | jcamins | Il'ia Zdanevich book art today. :) |
| 19:14 | pastebot | "Shane-S" at 68.39.74.226 pasted "What I will be using ...once I fix apache conf back..." (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/301 |
| 19:15 | jcamins | Shane-S: exactly. |
| 19:16 | Shane-S | entered.....going to /usr/share.../zebra... |
| 19:17 | jcamins | No, don't go to /usr/share |
| 19:17 | Go to /home/shane/kohaclone | |
| 19:17 | Shane-S | okay |
| 19:17 | then I will have to update crond too | |
| 19:17 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 19:18 | Shane-S | wait...no bin in here |
| 19:18 | or migration_tools...what path ? | |
| 19:18 | jcamins | misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r |
| 19:18 | rangi | Fredericd:u about? |
| 19:18 | Shane-S | no misc in my /home/shane/kohaclone |
| 19:19 | jcamins | What? |
| 19:19 | Are you sure? | |
| 19:19 | pastebot | "Shane-S" at 68.39.74.226 pasted "my kohaclone" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/302 |
| 19:19 | Shane-S | nm I am blind |
| 19:19 | jcamins | Shane-S: it's right in the center. |
| 19:20 | * Shane-S | jumps off a bridge to help society |
| 19:21 | curses as the same error appears | |
| 19:21 | jcamins | I'm completely out of ideas, sorry. :( |
| 19:22 | pastebot | "Shane-S" at 68.39.74.226 pasted "I want to cry!" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/303 |
| 19:22 | Shane-S | packages were so much easier |
| 19:22 | wizzyrea | ok, shane |
| 19:22 | go get a cup of <caffienated beverage of choice> | |
| 19:22 | jcamins | Shane-S: there's the problem. |
| 19:22 | wizzyrea | this is fixable |
| 19:22 | jcamins | Don't use sudo. |
| 19:22 | wizzyrea | ^^^ |
| 19:23 | Shane-S | what ... I have to don't I? |
| 19:23 | wizzyrea | no, in fact |
| 19:23 | jcamins | No, for dev installs, you *never* use sudo. |
| 19:23 | wizzyrea | you want your indexes owned by root |
| 19:23 | the reason you don't have your paths defined is because you are using sudo's env | |
| 19:23 | oleonard | A quick search doesn't turn up an obvious TT tidy option |
| 19:23 | * Shane-S | was trained by ubuntu to use sudo.... sorry |
| 19:23 | wizzyrea | that's usually right, but not for this. |
| 19:24 | this = not a sudo level task. | |
| 19:24 | Shane-S | no errors this time... jcamins I am sorry I have been doing sudo "EVERY" time :( |
| 19:25 | I didn't know...I really didn't know | |
| 19:25 | jcamins | Shane-S: that's okay. I didn't notice it earlier, did I? ;) |
| 19:25 | * Shane-S | go to see if Cat in the Hat is there now |
| 19:25 | jcamins | Shane-S: also, you'll need to do -r instead of -z most likely. |
| 19:26 | Shane-S | do I have to sudo, because I got warns and fatals using -r -b |
| 19:27 | all permisson denied errors | |
| 19:27 | jcamins | Shane-S: right, that's because you ran it with sudo earlier. |
| 19:27 | To fix that, run the following: | |
| 19:28 | sudo chown -R shane:shane /home/shane/koha-dev/var/lib | |
| 19:28 | Then rerun the rebuild_zebra command, without sudo. | |
| 19:28 | Shane-S | -z or -r or both? |
| 19:28 | jcamins | Just -r |
| 19:29 | wizzyrea | -r and -z are mutually exclusive :) |
| 19:29 | jcamins | Since your index was a bit confused, you want to *r*ebuild it. In the future you will be using -z, because you are indexing whatever is in the *z*ebraqueue. :) |
| 19:30 | Shane-S | appears I have to do /home/shane/koha-dev/var with -R as the paths have ..dev/var/lock/* |
| 19:30 | jcamins | Ah, yes, that's right. |
| 19:31 | Shane-S | there we go...now for seuss |
| 19:31 | hmm...will Koha not add books if zebra was broken? | |
| 19:32 | not coming up in OPAC or catalog | |
| 19:32 | jcamins | You also need to start Zebra, probably. |
| 19:32 | Shane-S | I know I imported cat in the hate via Z39.50 |
| 19:32 | jcamins | searching faq? |
| 19:32 | wahanui | searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 19:33 | jcamins | The command will be something like sudo /home/shane/koha-dev/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start |
| 19:33 | (sorry, that's a sudo) | |
| 19:33 | Shane-S | hmm...so I can;t use /usr/share/koha/bin at all? that is what I put in the daemon |
| 19:33 | jcamins | Actually, you don't even need a sudo there, never mind. |
| 19:34 | That's correct... /usr/share/koha is the version of the code from the package. | |
| 19:35 | * Shane-S | gets some coffee or something... |
| 19:35 | jcamins | Good idea. |
| 19:51 | slef | my emacs has sprouted a clock on the status bar. No idea why. |
| 19:51 | it's just counting up continuously | |
| 19:54 | jcamins | slef: when it reaches -2147483648, Emacs will become sentient. |
| 19:56 | slef | jcamins: Why do you say emacs will become sentient? |
| 19:56 | jcamins | slef: because the clock is the first sign of sentience. |
| 19:57 | slef | jcamins: What makes you believe that? |
| 19:57 | jcamins | Naturally. :P |
| 19:57 | slef: when you stick that many disparate parts together, you're going to end up with a diabolical artificial intelligence. | |
| 19:58 | slef | jcamins: Does it bother you that many disparate parts together make a diabolical artificial intelligence? |
| 19:58 | jcamins | slef: Eliza! |
| 19:58 | * slef | disconnects M-x doctor from M-x erc |
| 19:58 | jcamins | lol |
| 20:02 | Shane-S | hm...so I started zebra, tried to import a Z39.50 record, added an item... ran rebuild_zebra with -r -b and then -z -b no errors, but no results in OPAC or Catalog (pretty sure I fixed the daemon and crontab) |
| 20:03 | jcamins | Shane-S: is Zebra running? |
| 20:03 | Check with the following command: ps ax | grep zeb | |
| 20:04 | Shane-S | ... --color=auto zeb |
| 20:04 | jcamins | So it's not running. |
| 20:04 | Run: /home/shane/koha-dev/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh start | |
| 20:04 | Shane-S | not as sudo? |
| 20:05 | I ran it as sudo | |
| 20:05 | even reported back Starting Zebra Server | |
| 20:05 | jcamins | Apparently not. |
| 20:06 | Shane-S | freaking sudo is killing me today |
| 20:06 | grep has results now | |
| 20:06 | I have used ubuntu so much I am just self conditioned to preface everything with sudo | |
| 20:07 | jcamins | Shane-S: I think there's something in Debian that makes sudo work for that command, because I use sudo to start Zebra, and it works fine. |
| 20:08 | Shane-S | the doc I have shows to run it with sudo as well |
| 20:08 | and I got the starting message no errors, but it never started | |
| 20:16 | * jcamins | calls it a day. |
| 20:16 | jcamins | So long, #koha. |
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| 20:30 | slef | jcamins_away: lightweight |
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| 20:34 | oleonard | Hah, searching Google when not logged in and I forgot I had hidden results from koha.org :P |
| 20:35 | Also: Fuck everything about that being the first result. | |
| 20:35 | bag | agreed |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | man I've been doing everything I can think of to boost our ratings. It's just such an established presence. |
| 20:36 | slef | # /etc/init.d/koha-common restart |
| 20:36 | Restarting Koha ILS: daemonexecutablenameStopping Zebra server for debtest | |
| 20:36 | Starting Zebra server for debtest | |
| 20:36 | . | |
| 20:36 | is that normal? daemonexecutablename? | |
| 20:36 | @query daemonexecutablename | |
| 20:36 | huginn | slef: No results for "daemonexecutablename." |
| 20:37 | oleonard | Is the "saved results" column in Saved Reports the remnant of some long-abandoned feature? |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | oleonard: I think so |
| 20:37 | slef | I'll go code-diving if you want |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | also we need to revisit scheduling. |
| 20:39 | rangi | oleonard: feature still works |
| 20:39 | oleonard | ? |
| 20:40 | rangi | thats where stuff that you use at to schedule gets saved |
| 20:40 | slef | wizzyrea: random SEO bug, http://koha-community.org/sitemap.xml is served as application/xml and I think it should be text/xml |
| 20:40 | oleonard | rangi: Ah, I didn't know that as I know nothing of scheduling :) |
| 20:41 | rangi | ahh |
| 20:41 | it saves the output of a report being run, and emails you the url to the result | |
| 20:41 | so you can run slow reports at 2am | |
| 20:42 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Why do you say we need to revisit scheduling? |
| 20:43 | rangi | also |
| 20:43 | looky here | |
| 20:43 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/KohaUsers/Africa | |
| 20:46 | slef | I bless the rains down in Africa |
| 20:47 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]a_Users_Worldwide |
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| 20:48 | rangi | now the 250 philipines library dont make the whole page way too big, just the southeast asia one :) |
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| 20:50 | oleonard | rangi: You could retire on the fortune made from upgrading The Philippines to 3.x |
| 20:50 | rangi | heh |
| 20:52 | oleonard | I wish I knew migrations because I'd love to become an itinerant Koha support tech in Southeast Asia |
| 20:52 | * oleonard | is trying to figure out if the family can swing a trip there |
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| 20:53 | rangi | i have a plan oleonard |
| 20:54 | come here, eythian and I will teach you how to do 2.2.9 to 3.6.x upgrades, switching to the packages | |
| 20:54 | then you can go do that :) | |
| 20:55 | oleonard | Sounds like a pretty good plan! |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | sorry had to step away for a minute - i've never seen any provider actually allow libraries to use the scheduling |
| 20:58 | hdl | hi ! rangi: to answer your questions, yes, I know lara fabian. Not really a big Fan. Too voicy to be listened to. |
| 20:58 | rangi | its less of a drama with the packages wizzyrea |
| 20:58 | as users run as themselves, not www-data | |
| 20:58 | so you can give a user limited at access for an actual user to a command | |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | righty-o |
| 20:59 | that's helpful - documented? | |
| 21:00 | rangi | dunno, its documented that the packages dont run as www-data |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 21:04 | Shane-S | wizzyrea: you might like this...I made changed to the template and CSS file (I might issue a patch)... http://www.screencast.com/t/vPvvtSYmZa4v |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | hm, that link doesn't seem to work for me |
| 21:05 | maybe it's just taking forever. :) | |
| 21:05 | oh there it is | |
| 21:06 | that's prettier than it used to be with multiples :) | |
| 21:06 | slef | SVC? |
| 21:06 | wahanui: you awake? | |
| 21:06 | wahanui | slef: i haven't a clue |
| 21:06 | slef | SVC API? |
| 21:06 | wahanui | SVC API is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ha_/svc/_HTTP_API |
| 21:06 | slef | thank you |
| 21:07 | Shane-S | wizzyrea: I made it more obvious were things come from, and make the the no-image consistent like the images, and they all are encased in the same element type...a <div>, I removed the spans |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | not *super* keen about the borders on the google images |
| 21:08 | Shane-S | that is just to show the change |
| 21:08 | slef | oh what the $DEITY |
| 21:08 | new_bib deletes item tags | |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | O.o |
| 21:09 | slef | anyone think that makes sense? |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | the first question? |
| 21:09 | wahanui | the first question is "What are you trying to do?" |
| 21:09 | Shane-S | I am not sure if I should patch with the examples...basically it is just showing that everything can be done from the admin OPAC CSS editor is users want |
| 21:09 | slef | push books in over the svc API |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | Shane-S: oh I see. well, here's what I think |
| 21:09 | slef | wizzyrea: that directed at me? |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea: the first question? | |
| 21:09 | wahanui | hmmm... the first question is "What are you trying to do?" |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | slef yep :) |
| 21:10 | I like your changes to the layout | |
| 21:10 | cait | slef: I think ... gmchalrt? said it could be added easily |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | I think those are good. |
| 21:10 | cait | slef: I wondered because we wanted to use it for adding ill records and items |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | certainly it's an improvement over multiple cover display as it stands now |
| 21:10 | slef | cait: I think we only need to comment out 4 lines. |
| 21:10 | cait | well |
| 21:11 | that is pretty easy then :) | |
| 21:11 | slef | cait: yeah. I'm just wondering if there's a reason it deletes them. |
| 21:12 | Shane-S | well the improvement came from unifying them under a common html element, and then giving them a common class, a "vendor" common class, and then some have an ISBN class from the script (google and OL) |
| 21:12 | oleonard | Shane-S: I'd say submit a patch which makes the customizations possible, but don't include the style differences. Instead document the options in your patch |
| 21:12 | cait | slef: not usre |
| 21:13 | slef: I think the feature is from the time biblios.net was still alive | |
| 21:13 | Shane-S | oleonard: okay, I can do that, and I will link the screen cast as an example |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | yea, definitely don't do the style differences. |
| 21:13 | slef | cait: I have looked at bulkmarcimport. It seems that it may be more complicated. |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | they can be controlled from the opac prefs. |
| 21:14 | also make sure that you test with syndetics, or I will when I see your patch. | |
| 21:14 | rangi | ./ws 16 |
| 21:14 | heh | |
| 21:14 | * wizzyrea | points and giggles |
| 21:14 | Shane-S | yeah, I just tossed them in my sheet to test that it worked, because I actually have to remove the div.class and just use , .class becuse the div. is the most direct reference and overrides a plain .class |
| 21:15 | syndetics isn't working at all, no code some out :( pretty sure I have on | |
| 21:15 | slef | NMI dinner |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | syndetics requres credentials. |
| 21:15 | bc it's a paid service. | |
| 21:15 | < happens to have a test sub atm | |
| 21:17 | Shane-S | you can try my patch then :P |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 21:17 | Shane-S | I didn't touch "code" I touched HTML fields |
| 21:18 | okay let me clean this bad boy up, make a patch, bug it and explain | |
| 21:18 | wizzyrea | oki doki |
| 21:18 | Shane-S | after I check on my windows being installed |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | rangi: you participating? http://feedproxy.google.com/~r[…]ear-your-eff.html |
| 21:23 | rangi | hmm nope |
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| 21:25 | oleonard | I should see if I can de-map "Ctrl+W" on Chatzilla :( |
| 21:26 | maximep | demaped ctrl+q after closing my whole browser a couple of times -_- |
| 21:30 | sekjal | hey, all, I thought I remembered hearing about Piwik in here before... is anyone using it, for good or ill? |
| 21:31 | rangi | i use it, and its good |
| 21:31 | there is also piwik.koha-community.org | |
| 21:32 | sekjal | cool |
| 21:32 | rangi | which im running as a free service for libraries who want to try it out but dont want to get a piwik server up and running |
| 21:32 | hdl | sekjal: using it there too |
| 21:32 | paul_p | sekjal we also use piwik, and propose it to our customers. |
| 21:33 | rangi | the nice thing with piwik is ppl can opt out |
| 21:33 | not like google analytics | |
| 21:33 | sekjal | right, it sounds like it respects privacy much more |
| 21:33 | rangi | yup |
| 21:33 | paul_p | yep, opt-out is easy. |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | we are using it here too |
| 21:33 | we like it | |
| 21:33 | rangi | and its developed in wellington :) |
| 21:33 | sekjal | nice! |
| 21:33 | rangi | by a french guy |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | we like that we have control over the data |
| 21:33 | paul_p | the other nice thing is that we can also tune it. We are tuning it to include some koha-specific things |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | and it can't be used for evil by the likes of google. |
| 21:34 | rangi | yeah |
| 21:34 | eythian | hi |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | hey eythian |
| 21:34 | wahanui | rumour has it eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence |
| 21:34 | paul_p | hdl should be able to give more details, as he is working on that. |
| 21:34 | rangi | next step would be to add a syspref in koha |
| 21:34 | so you can put your piwik id in, and it takes care of the rest | |
| 21:34 | sekjal | right now, my library has about 4-5 different GA numbers, and not all the web services are even covered |
| 21:34 | * oleonard | splits |
| 21:34 | sekjal | consolidating into something that we host locally has a lot of appeal |
| 21:34 | rangi | cya oleonard |
| 21:35 | sekjal | later, oleonard |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | later oleonard |
| 21:35 | rangi | schuster++ |
| 21:35 | hdl | rangi: since you have to add the piwik site url, it would need more stuff. |
| 21:36 | rangi: but we could have some custom javascript at the end of the page to allow ppl to add the required script. | |
| 21:36 | and use more juice. | |
| 21:36 | sekjal | it doesn't look like it has the javascript Event tracking that GA does |
| 21:38 | bag | schuster++ |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/UZmSe9xT |
| 21:39 | oy screencast is sloow today | |
| 21:39 | also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrqrpMFxMo8 | |
| 21:40 | bag | For some reason I never had luck with screencast - but my wife loves it once I showed it to her |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | and i mean, the 1 and 0 |
| 21:43 | sekjal | added entry, no non-filing characters, I believe |
| 21:43 | wizzyrea | so I have a situation where I can't delete the extra 245 |
| 21:43 | it simply won't save without it | |
| 21:43 | sekjal | wizzyrea: copy your framework into a new, temporary framework |
| 21:44 | then remove the 'unique' constraint on 245 in that temp framework | |
| 21:44 | then change the framework on the bib, remove the 245, and save | |
| 21:44 | change framework back, save again, clean up temp framework | |
| 21:44 | wahanui | sekjal: that doesn't look right |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | oh, so this is because it was an imported record |
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| 21:44 | sekjal | I believe so |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | sekjal++ nice one |
| 21:44 | thanks ^.^ | |
| 21:44 | sekjal | I've seen it before; sometimes MARCthulu rises from the deep |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | hehe MARCthulu. |
| 21:45 | that makes me giggle | |
| 21:45 | sekjal | and with that, I must depart. have a good night, all! |
| 21:45 | wizzyrea | farewell :) |
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| 21:56 | sturmtruppen | hi to everyone |
| 21:57 | Shane-S | git summary was it to show changes I have made? |
| 21:57 | jcamins_away | git status |
| 21:57 | git? | |
| 21:57 | wahanui | rumour has it git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 21:57 | sturmtruppen | i can't use the translation in koha. how can I do? |
| 21:58 | the user manual say to use install-code.pl but i have not that perl file... | |
| 21:59 | cait | whch manual are you using? |
| 21:59 | sturmtruppen | 3.6 |
| 21:59 | online manual | |
| 22:00 | cait | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ANET_staff_client |
| 22:00 | sturmtruppen: wher ein the online manual? | |
| 22:00 | it might be outdated | |
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| 22:02 | sturmtruppen | @cait, i was following http://manual.koha-community.o[…]on.html#l18nprefs |
| 22:02 | huginn | sturmtruppen: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 22:03 | cait | sturmtruppen: first you have to install the languages, then you can use the systempreferences to turn them off or on |
| 22:03 | sturmtruppen: where are you located? | |
| 22:03 | sturmtruppen | it |
| 22:03 | i'm reading the link you gave me | |
| 22:06 | i get error like "Can't locate C4/TmplTokenType.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at TmplTokenizer.pm line 5." | |
| 22:07 | cait | what did you run to get this error? |
| 22:08 | normally what you have to do is | |
| 22:08 | export your environment variables | |
| 22:08 | sturmtruppen | # env KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/ perl translate install it-IT |
| 22:08 | cait | change into misc/translator in you rkoha directory |
| 22:08 | wahanui | cait: that doesn't look right |
| 22:08 | wahanui joined #koha | |
| 22:08 | cait | and run |
| 22:08 | perl translate install <languagecode> | |
| 22:08 | and then you can activate the language in the system preferences | |
| 22:11 | sturmtruppen: did you comment them out? | |
| 22:11 | sturmtruppen | no, # is for root |
| 22:11 | cait | ah |
| 22:11 | try export KOHA_CONF.... | |
| 22:11 | sturmtruppen | ok |
| 22:11 | cait | export PERL5LIB.... |
| 22:11 | and then the perl translate install | |
| 22:12 | hdl | good night |
| 22:12 | https://babytwit.fr/doc/faq | |
| 22:13 | cait | hm and check your paths are correct |
| 22:13 | jcamins_away | Woohoo! |
| 22:14 | * jcamins_away | does a happy dance. |
| 22:14 | cait | jcamins_away: ? |
| 22:15 | sophie_m left #koha | |
| 22:15 | sturmtruppen | still running... |
| 22:16 | jcamins_away | cait: bug 7284! |
| 22:16 | wahanui | bug 7284 is the first step to making that happen. |
| 22:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 22:16 | cait | huh? |
| 22:16 | jcamins_away | paul_p: is ready to push it! |
| 22:16 | :D | |
| 22:17 | paul_p | :D |
| 22:17 | jcamins_away | No : was needed there. |
| 22:21 | sturmtruppen | cait: you deserve a pint of beer |
| 22:22 | cait | um |
| 22:22 | better not, I don't like beer | |
| 22:22 | try chocolate :) | |
| 22:22 | sturmtruppen | i have to go to swiss for chocolate.... mmmmmmmmm |
| 22:22 | another neewbe question... | |
| 22:23 | how can I personalize the homepage of the opac? | |
| 22:23 | jcamins_away | oleonard's blog? |
| 22:23 | wahanui | somebody said oleonard's blog was http://www.myacpl.org/koha |
| 22:23 | jcamins_away | ^^ see that |
| 22:25 | Shane-S | wizzyrea: bug 7669 :) let me know if I broke your paid service |
| 22:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7669 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Search Results Multiple Cover Image HTML & CSS |
| 22:31 | cait | sturmtruppen: yes swiss chocolate is good - how close are you? :) I am in Konstanz |
| 22:32 | sturmtruppen | 30 min form lugano, very close to the border. trying the leap... |
| 22:32 | from, sorry | |
| 22:33 | very nice lake near you | |
| 22:34 | Shane-S | jcamins_away: I don't think I said it today, thanks a TON for the help, and anyone else who help thanks you as well! |
| 22:34 | jcamins_away | You're welcome. :) |
| 22:34 | Shane-S | Now I have a working dev system so I can muck about and actually try making little patches :) |
| 22:35 | well I think I might go get myself some celebration dinner, Fast Food here I come :) | |
| 22:36 | cait | sturmtruppen: yes, the lake is nice :) |
| 22:38 | sturmtruppen | it's on my way to Günzburg...one of this summer... |
| 22:43 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7284 2nd follow-up, fixing perl mistake <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]217bca6ee2da5a7f1> / Bug 7284 follow-up, DBrev number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]906714dbd9b9e43ad> / Bug 7284: Improve UNIMARC Zebra configuration <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]023a6d7ec5a76e5cc |
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| 22:43 | jcamins_away | Woohoo! |
| 22:43 | paul_p++ | |
| 22:44 | cait | congratulations jcamins_away :) |
| 22:46 | jcamins_away | Thanks. :) |
| 22:46 | sturmtruppen | cait, we have a situation... doesn't work... |
| 22:46 | cait | sturmtruppen: I think we need a bit more information ot help you |
| 22:48 | jcamins_away | @later tell slef I checked the proprietary lease, and the co-op is required to approve children or heirs upon the lessee's death if they are fiscally responsible (in contrast to the co-op not having any obligation to approve anyone else ever). |
| 22:48 | huginn | jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:48 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #645 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:50 | sturmtruppen | i agree... |
| 22:52 | after i selected the italian language in the opzion, the language of koha doesn't change | |
| 22:52 | option | |
| 22:53 | cait | did you activate the language chooser? |
| 22:53 | sturmtruppen | i check |
| 22:55 | yes, allowed but nothing happens | |
| 22:55 | i've selected only the italian language, not both | |
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| 23:00 | cait | ah |
| 23:00 | close your browser | |
| 23:00 | deleting your cookie | |
| 23:01 | and open the browser again | |
| 23:02 | sturmtruppen | ok, 1 beer and 1 lindt... |
| 23:02 | cait | lol |
| 23:02 | I still don't like the beer! :) | |
| 23:02 | sturmtruppen | the beer is for me |
| 23:04 | cait | ok |
| 23:04 | sturmtruppen | cait, thanks for your patience, i discovered koha just yesterday and now i'm trying to run a mini biblio |
| 23:05 | than a big biblio for the school | |
| 23:05 | cait | :) |
| 23:05 | Shane-S | sturmtruppen: similar boat as to me :P |
| 23:07 | sturmtruppen | how can i import in my personal db in koha, all the info about 10 ISBN? |
| 23:08 | Shane-S | sturm, do you have marc records? |
| 23:08 | cait | sturmtruppen: I should sleep - perhaps someone else can explain to you :) |
| 23:08 | or come back tomorrow | |
| 23:08 | bye all :) | |
| 23:08 | Shane-S | Ill try cait |
| 23:08 | sturmtruppen | bye |
| 23:08 | Shane-S | night |
| 23:08 | sturmtruppen | thanks shane |
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| 23:08 | sturmtruppen | what do you mean, shane? |
| 23:08 | Shane-S | so these books you have, are they cataloged at all yet? |
| 23:08 | like in another system | |
| 23:09 | sturmtruppen | not yet |
| 23:09 | Shane-S | okay so all you have are 10 books |
| 23:09 | sturmtruppen | yeap |
| 23:09 | Shane-S | ok, an just so i know, are running koha fully, in that you have the admin access and all, or using something like a liveCD or virtual Machine? |
| 23:11 | sturmtruppen | i have installed koha in a vBox, to learn how it works. after that, i personalize this system on a real machine in the school where i'm a teacher |
| 23:11 | Shane-S | adding the books is really simple, but we need to make sure you did a few things... |
| 23:12 | sturmtruppen | yeap |
| 23:12 | Shane-S | have you establised you libraries, item types, etc? |
| 23:12 | sturmtruppen | done nothing. started this evening with "aptitude install mysql-server" and writing now to you |
| 23:13 | my level on koha in 0 | |
| 23:13 | Shane-S | okay, is Koha up and running right now...IE you can go to a browser and type in 127.0.1.1 or your local IP and it bring Koha Up? |
| 23:14 | sturmtruppen | it's up. :80 for the user, :8080 for the "admin". I'm in as "admin" now |
| 23:15 | Shane-S | okay give me one second...opening mine up so I can walk you through it, do you have the all text screen, or the top nav bar, and a search box? |
| 23:16 | sturmtruppen | yeap.. wait a second, moving xchat on the second video... |
| 23:16 | done, i'm ready | |
| 23:17 | Shane-S | sturmtruppen: you will need to go to Koha administration from the home text or the More drop down, administration. |
| 23:17 | sturmtruppen | done |
| 23:17 | Shane-S | Okay note the "Hint" in gray...that is important\ |
| 23:18 | now we don;t have to set EVERYTHING up, but for your production system you will need to do as much as you can | |
| 23:18 | for now...I will get you started quickly | |
| 23:18 | sturmtruppen | ok |
| 23:18 | Shane-S | I just want you to be aware I am giving you a quick barebones get your started |
| 23:19 | sturmtruppen | ready |
| 23:19 | Shane-S | okay firt under Basic Parameters click Libraries |
| 23:19 | libraries..branches..groups | |
| 23:19 | sturmtruppen | ok |
| 23:19 | Shane-S | it should be empty right? |
| 23:20 | nothing listed | |
| 23:20 | sturmtruppen | i have sample libraries |
| 23:20 | Shane-S | oh okay you loaded the sample data then :P |
| 23:20 | sturmtruppen | yeap, from neewbe! |
| 23:20 | Shane-S | up top click the Administration breadcrumb link |
| 23:21 | sturmtruppen | done |
| 23:21 | Shane-S | open item types next, have types? |
| 23:21 | sturmtruppen | no |
| 23:21 | Shane-S | okay |
| 23:22 | sturmtruppen | i have NO_LIBRARY_SET on the right top. it's a problem? |
| 23:23 | Shane-S | no, brb have to switch systemsfor a bit hang right there |
| 23:23 | sturmtruppen | brb? |
| 23:24 | ok | |
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| 23:25 | Shane-S_ | sturmtruppen: on my other system..pulling up koha |
| 23:25 | sturmtruppen | ok |
| 23:25 | i'm in item, with no item | |
| 23:26 | Shane-S_ | there is a button New item type |
| 23:26 | click that | |
| 23:26 | sturmtruppen | add item type |
| 23:27 | Shane-S_ | Now we are going to add a Book type, in box one type BK in desc type "Book" |
| 23:27 | sturmtruppen | done |
| 23:27 | Shane-S_ | now for icon this is optional, I like bridge tab and I pick the book of course |
| 23:27 | I touch nothing else and hit Save | |
| 23:28 | sturmtruppen | save changes...done |
| 23:28 | Shane-S_ | Now you have a library and a physically item type you will handle |
| 23:28 | How many libraries did you have listed btw? | |
| 23:28 | sturmtruppen | 11 or 12 i suppose |
| 23:29 | only sample libraries | |
| 23:29 | Shane-S_ | lol we remove some, and just add your own if you like |
| 23:29 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #645: UNSTABLE in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/645/ |
| 23:29 | * jcamins: signed off Bug 7284: Authority matching improvements | |
| 23:29 | * jcamins: Bug 7284: Improve UNIMARC Zebra configuration | |
| 23:29 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7284 follow-up, DBrev number | |
| 23:29 | * paul.poulain: bug 7284 2nd follow-up, fixing perl mistake | |
| 23:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 23:29 | jcamins_away | Unstable?!? |
| 23:29 | sturmtruppen | ok, i'm doing |
| 23:29 | jcamins_away | Argh! |
| 23:29 | Why's it unstable? | |
| 23:29 | It worked when I tested it! | |
| 23:29 | Shane-S_ | sturmtruppen: can I private message this to save confusion? |
| 23:30 | sturmtruppen | yeap |
| 23:30 | rangi | its not liking the pod either |
| 23:31 | jcamins_away | Oh, I suspect I probably needed to include sample data for my new test. |
| 23:31 | Oops. | |
| 23:31 | What's the xt_author_podcorrectness test about? | |
| 23:32 | rangi | you should be able to run that locally to get more info |
| 23:32 | perl xt/author/podcorrectness.t | |
| 23:32 | jcamins_away | Why didn't that run when I did "prove xt"? |
| 23:33 | * jcamins_away | swears he ran the tests! |
| 23:33 | rangi | prove xt wont do author |
| 23:34 | also you need Test::Pod | |
| 23:34 | or it skips | |
| 23:35 | :# Failed test 'POD test for C4/Linker.pm' | |
| 23:35 | # at /usr/share/perl5/Test/Pod.pm line 182. | |
| 23:35 | # C4/Linker.pm (89): =back without =over | |
| 23:35 | thats the issue | |
| 23:48 | jcamins_away | The XISBN thing shouldn't be me, though. |
| 23:48 | rangi | nope |
| 23:49 | jcamins_away | Any idea what that message means? |
| 23:49 | rangi | which one ? |
| 23:49 | wahanui | which one is it |
| 23:49 | rangi | the pod one? |
| 23:50 | jcamins_away | Yeah. |
| 23:50 | =back without =over | |
| 23:50 | rangi | yep ill show ya |
| 23:50 | 2 secs | |
| 23:50 | jcamins_away | Thanks. |
| 23:50 | rangi | line 89 |
| 23:50 | you have =back | |
| 23:51 | jcamins_away | Right. |
| 23:51 | I see that. | |
| 23:51 | rangi | you dont need it :) |
| 23:51 | jcamins_away | Oh. |
| 23:52 | Okay then. :) | |
| 23:52 | I can handle that. | |
| 23:53 | As for the other one, the problem is that jenkins needs its Zebra configs updated, and the authorities reindexed. | |
| 23:54 | rangi | ah right |
| 23:54 | ill try to do that tonight | |
| 23:54 | jcamins_away | I'll attach a follow-up. |
| 23:55 | rangi | cool |
| 23:56 | jcamins_away | Attached. |
| 23:57 | The final patch requires a sign-off. | |
| 23:57 | I'm not quite sure how to handle that on Bugzilla. | |
| 23:58 | rangi | i think swithc it back to needs signoff |
| 23:58 | jcamins_away | Obsolete the other two? |
| 23:58 | rangi | obsoleting all the others |
| 23:58 | yeah |
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