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| 03:37 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag |
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| 05:57 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 06:30 | cait | good morning magnuse :) |
| 06:31 | magnuse | hiya cait |
| 06:44 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait |
| 06:44 | heya magnuse | |
| 06:45 | cait | hi Amit_Gupta |
| 06:47 | magnuse | namaste Amit_Gupta |
| 06:56 | cait | magnuse: which field is issn stored in unimarc? |
| 06:58 | Amit_Gupta | 011 |
| 06:58 | cait | htank you Amit_Gupta :) |
| 06:58 | magnuse | cait: dunno |
| 06:58 | cait | did a typo though |
| 06:58 | wanted to ask NORMARC :) | |
| 06:59 | 022? | |
| 06:59 | magnuse | ah |
| 06:59 | think so | |
| 06:59 | lemme check | |
| 07:00 | yup issn is 022 - most things are the same as marc21 | |
| 07:00 | cait | cool :) |
| 07:00 | thought so but wanted to make sure .) | |
| 07:00 | magnuse | and did i rant about normarc now only being available as a pdf? how stupid is that? |
| 07:00 | cait | heh |
| 07:01 | marc21 in german is only available as pdf too... | |
| 07:01 | magnuse | gah |
| 07:01 | cait | I like the simple html solution of loc better, easier to read and search |
| 07:01 | magnuse | yup, and link to! |
| 07:01 | makes me want to create my own html version | |
| 07:02 | cait | :) |
| 07:03 | * magnuse | takes the dogs out |
| 07:04 | cait | later magnuse |
| 07:16 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:16 | wahanui | que tal, alex_a |
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| 07:36 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:45 | ti | hello people |
| 07:46 | I have installed koha 3.6 but it is not able to search Biblio records... it used to before..what might I have changed | |
| 07:47 | will greatly appreciate your help | |
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| 07:47 | cait | ti: you can start with the search faq |
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| 07:48 | cait | search faq? |
| 07:48 | wahanui | it has been said that search faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 07:48 | cait | bye all bbiab |
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| 07:53 | ti | i am trying to search the machine but it returns an error |
| 07:53 | like this.....No results match your search for “kw,wrdl: geography ” in Geothermal Development Company Library Catalog | |
| 07:54 | where could be the problem? would really appreciate | |
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| 08:12 | kf | hi again #koha |
| 08:19 | magnuse | hiya kf |
| 08:22 | wow, there were moose tracks right next to our garbage bins - havn't seen them that close before | |
| 08:22 | @wunder boo | |
| 08:22 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (8:50 AM CET on February 22, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:22 | magnuse | yay |
| 08:29 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:29 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -3.1°C (9:24 AM CET on February 22, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.53 in 1033.7 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:29 | mbalmer | morning. |
| 08:29 | magnuse | nah nah nah nah naaah nah |
| 08:29 | hiya mbalmer | |
| 08:30 | mbalmer | interesting article about a community whose name has been trademarked (rings a bell..?), in german only: |
| 08:30 | http://www.heise.de/newsticker[…]rino-1439733.html | |
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| 09:37 | mveron | Good morning #koha |
| 09:38 | magnuse | hiya mveron |
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| 09:40 | mveron | magnuse: Question about Bug 7445 (Tagcloud and language error) |
| 09:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7445 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Clicking on a tag gives "Language ... does not exist" |
| 09:40 | magnuse | shoot! |
| 09:40 | :-) | |
| 09:41 | mveron | I think Norwegian is the only exception for the workaround bei F Somers |
| 09:41 | magnuse | that could well be |
| 09:42 | so it might make sense to incorporate what i saw as a quick and dirty fix | |
| 09:42 | mveron | I had a look at the languages supportet by Snoball |
| 09:43 | My proposition is to declare your "dirty hack" to a "pragmatc solution" | |
| 09:43 | magnuse | works for me :-) |
| 09:44 | mveron | Well, would be fine to have it in one of the next releases, otherwise I have to apply the "hack" after each update :-) |
| 09:44 | * mveron | somebody caling at the door |
| 09:45 | magnuse | i can do a patch for my hack, and we'll see if qa shoots it down or not |
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| 10:09 | Culiforge | g'morning. I reinstalled koha on a new system and everything went smoothly and without error until I realized that apache nor zebra are starting at boot and the deb installer did not set up a mysql database as it did previously... what to do? can I/should i uninstall the koha-common package and reinstall or no? |
| 10:12 | magnuse | Culiforge: the packages are not supposed to install mysql, because people might not want to run that on the same server as the rest of the system |
| 10:12 | i'm not sure about apache/zebra not starting on boot, though, that sounds... bad | |
| 10:14 | Culiforge | magnuse: bad? how so... I don't like bad... :( |
| 10:18 | magnuse | well, they are supposed to start on boot - not sure what might be causing them not to |
| 10:20 | Culiforge | magnuse: well, mysql was not installed when I first ran the koha package. I then installed mysql and reinstalled the koha package. Maybe to bold on my part. |
| 10:23 | magnuse | reinstalling the koha package should not have been necessary, but it shouldn't do any damage either |
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| 10:23 | Culiforge | magnuse: whew! at least that |
| 10:24 | magnuse | :-) |
| 10:24 | mveron | magnuse: Maybe I missed an answer. The "Pragmatic Hack Patch" would be great! |
| 10:24 | Culiforge | magnuse: also I have no koha-conf.xml file.. I have koha-conf-sites.xml.in ?? |
| 10:24 | kf | hi mveron |
| 10:24 | mveron | hi kf |
| 10:25 | Culiforge | magnuse: site not site[s] |
| 10:26 | magnuse | koha-conf.xml files will be created when you create sites with koha-create |
| 10:26 | koha-conf-sites.xml.in is the template that is used to create this files | |
| 10:26 | s/this/those/ | |
| 10:27 | and they will be /etc/koha/sites/yoursitename/koha-conf.xml | |
| 10:28 | Culiforge | magnuse: ok, so the main problem is apache not autostarting then to run koha-create? |
| 10:28 | magnuse | um, there's no connection there, i think |
| 10:29 | koha-create creates the sites for you, independently of apache | |
| 10:29 | but you need apache up and running for the sites to be usable, of course | |
| 10:30 | Culiforge | magnuse: dang! I thought i was on to something.. but in the overall... yes.. what you said.. solve the apache starting before proceeding to ensure my koha install has no further problems... |
| 10:32 | magnuse | sounds like a good plan |
| 10:33 | Culiforge | magnuse: so I restart apache and get '*:80 has no virtual hosts' |
| 10:35 | magnuse | ah, that's a classic |
| 10:35 | it's not a big problem, though | |
| 10:36 | i think everything shoud work just fine all the same | |
| 10:37 | if you have not created any sites yet it could be because of that, maybe | |
| 10:37 | Culiforge | magnuse: I had previously edited (insert filename I forgot here) to include :8080 as well and fixed the 'no fully qualified domain name' error |
| 10:38 | magnuse | might be /etc/apache2/ports.conf |
| 10:38 | Culiforge | magnuse: yes, that's it, thank you |
| 10:44 | magnuse: sudo apt-get --reinstall install apache2? maybe? | |
| 10:44 | magnuse: saw a thread in ubuntu forums where that fixed a similar problem | |
| 10:45 | magnuse | hm, i'm not sure actually |
| 10:45 | it shouldn't hurt though, i think... | |
| 10:46 | Culiforge | magnuse: I'm just afraid of running off and doing something then coming back for help and be met with "gah!!! what did you do that for???" |
| 10:47 | magnuse: sometimes I'm a ninny but I'm getting better (I hope) | |
| 10:48 | magnuse | hehe |
| 10:49 | you might try poking around in the logs and see if there is an error somewhere about apache not starting on boot | |
| 10:49 | Culiforge | magnuse: any logs in particular? |
| 10:51 | magnuse | the apache log(s?) might be a start |
| 10:51 | and some kind of system log probably, but that's not my area of exprtice... | |
| 10:52 | googling a little for something like "apache not starting on boot" might also be instructive | |
| 11:07 | Culiforge | magnuse: is there a way to see if apache is 'set' to start on boot without rebooting? |
| 11:08 | magnuse | there are some hints here: http://www.howtoforge.com/foru[…]hread.php?t=14582 |
| 11:09 | find /etc/rc* | grep "apache" | |
| 11:09 | should give a list of things like "/etc/rc0.d/K09apache2" | |
| 11:11 | Culiforge | magnuse: indeed it does.. so if that's there then it should now start at boot, correct? theoretically... |
| 11:11 | magnuse | theoretically, yes ;-) |
| 11:12 | Culiforge | magnuse: ok.. great.. I simply reinstalled apache for that.. hopefully that was what was neccessary |
| 11:13 | magnuse | fingers crossed :-) |
| 11:14 | Culiforge | magnuse: quick help on koha-create syntax and I'll leave you alone.. koha-create --create-db \ 'newlibrarydatabase'? |
| 11:15 | magnuse | check "man koha-create" :-) |
| 11:15 | Culiforge | magnuse: righto, will do.. was looking on the wiki but didn't see any examples |
| 11:15 | magnuse | but yes: sudo koha-create --create-db instancename |
| 11:16 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]kages#koha-create ? | |
| 11:16 | Culiforge | magnuse: no \.. that's what's shown on the commands in the wiki |
| 11:16 | yes | |
| 11:16 | magnuse | ah, that is just to say that everything should be on one line |
| 11:16 | Culiforge | got it |
| 11:17 | thanks again for the help.. I gotta run for a bit | |
| 11:17 | magnuse | have fun! :-) |
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| 12:22 | tcohen | hi #koha |
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| 13:13 | slef | morning #koha |
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| 13:15 | kf | morning(?) slef |
| 13:15 | magnus_afk | kia ora slef |
| 13:15 | slef | kf: it's always morning somewhere. |
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| 13:16 | slef | eythian: right-o. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a debian port-assigning tool somewhere. |
| 13:16 | oleonard | Like here for instance (morning) |
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| 13:16 | slef | oleonard: oh you crazy Americans |
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| 13:18 | slef | @marc topic |
| 13:18 | huginn | slef: unknown tag topic |
| 13:19 | slef | huginn: you'd be much more useful if you search the headings too. |
| 13:19 | huginn | slef: I suck |
| 13:19 | slef | wahanui: marc21? |
| 13:19 | wahanui | hmmm... marc21 is at http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html |
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| 13:20 | Shane-S | morning :) |
| 13:20 | slef | hi Shane-S |
| 13:20 | ok, this is an odd question | |
| 13:20 | kf | morning oleonard .) |
| 13:21 | slef | there's a field containing a reference to the database entry for an object that the book is about. Suggestions for marc tag? (Do I need jcamins_away to return?) |
| 13:23 | Shane-S | Can I add amazon as a Z39.50 source? |
| 13:23 | oleonard | Shane-S: I don't think so |
| 13:23 | slef | Shane-S: NAFAIK but could search http://irspy.indexdata.com |
| 13:24 | magnus_afk | Shane-S: only if they actually have a z39.50 server (and i don't think so) |
| 13:24 | slef | I sometimes get tempted to reply to librarians that ask stuff like this that they made their catalogue and marc21 was defined by other librarians, so please stop putting us engineers to mediate between two groups of librarians ;) |
| 13:25 | janPasi | is koha ok with 64 bit debian? |
| 13:25 | slef | janPasi: yes |
| 13:25 | magnus_afk | janPasi: yup |
| 13:26 | Shane-S | I am having a hard time locating a "Green Eggs and Ham" book, why I ask, as catalog.nypl.org isn't working |
| 13:26 | * slef | ponders using 650$a and 650$2 yet again. |
| 13:26 | kf | slef: I would love to help you with the marc -but I don't undestand the question |
| 13:26 | do you have an example? | |
| 13:26 | janPasi | perfect, thanks slef and magnus_afk :) |
| 13:26 | slef | kf: the examples are just stuff like 6741 |
| 13:26 | kf | Shane-S: try loc |
| 13:27 | 6741?? | |
| 13:27 | slef | kf: but then they can look 6741 up in the other database to get details on the artefact that the book mentions. |
| 13:27 | kf | hm |
| 13:27 | but it's not a direct link? | |
| 13:27 | slef | seems a very old-fashioned system to me |
| 13:27 | nah, just a pointer | |
| 13:27 | kf | and it doesnot have an authority record? |
| 13:28 | slef | oooh it should, shouldn't it? |
| 13:28 | kf | if they plan to use authorities for 650 I would put it in 653 |
| 13:28 | it's for uncontrolled terms | |
| 13:28 | @marc 653 | |
| 13:28 | huginn | kf: An index term added entry that is not constructed by standard subject heading/thesaurus-building conventions. (Repeatable) [a,6,8] |
| 13:28 | kf | that's where I put stuff that will not fit anywhere else |
| 13:28 | but there might also be a footnote you could use maybe | |
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| 13:29 | slef | I'll bounce it back and see if they'll use the other database as authority records. Thanks for the idea. |
| 13:29 | kf | slef: and it will still show up as clickable link in the opac |
| 13:34 | jcamins_away | kf: database errors don't sound good. :( |
| 13:34 | slef: did you figure out which field you needed? | |
| 13:35 | slef | jcamins_away: bouncing it back for them to decide if the other db will be loaded as authorities |
| 13:35 | jcamins_away: pondering 650$a or 653$a depending on their answer | |
| 13:36 | jcamins_away | slef: Ah. That makes sense. |
| 13:36 | kf | jcamins_away: it was missing a bibliocovers table - I was wondering if I missed the update of if there was a bug with it |
| 13:36 | jcamins_away: only saw it while I was checking for errors on another patch | |
| 13:37 | slef: I think the mailinglist didn't work - I never got any mail :( | |
| 13:37 | jcamins_away | Sounds like you missed the update. |
| 13:38 | slef | kf: your address is on there. Hrm, it should have mailed you. I will email it again this week. |
| 13:38 | kf | slef: sorry for having a stubborn email address |
| 13:40 | Shane-S | what adding a record, it follows up with an "Add Item" screen, the barcode field has ... but it does nothing, how do I make that work? |
| 13:41 | oleonard | Shane-S: Do you have any items in your database yet? |
| 13:42 | Shane-S | not sure, just imported a z39.50 and add an item |
| 13:43 | oleonard | I'm guessing that you don't have any items in your database yet, and thus the auto-incrementing barcode plugin doesn't find any existing barcode to increment |
| 13:43 | kf | or it's not activaed |
| 13:43 | by default | |
| 13:44 | the system preference is Autobarcode I think | |
| 13:44 | Shane-S | ah okay, I will look around more...my tutorial ended without cataloging, so I have to search the wiki more |
| 13:45 | magnus_afk | documentation? |
| 13:45 | wahanui | documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 13:46 | magnus_afk | Shane-S: not just the wiki, there's a manual too ;-) |
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| 14:06 | Shane-S | I tried that...didn't find an answer...so I imported 1960's Dr.Seuss Green Eggs from Lib. Cong. added 2 required fields, added 1 item...now I search the cataloging for "green" or "seuss" and get no results found...that a zebra issue? |
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| 14:07 | oleonard | Sounds like it Shane-S |
| 14:07 | Did you see the searching faq? | |
| 14:08 | searching faq? | |
| 14:08 | wahanui | it has been said that searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
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| 14:08 | Shane-S | 404 |
| 14:08 | jcamins_away | oleonard: I was not able to replicate the error message you encountered. |
| 14:09 | wahanui: forget searching faq | |
| 14:09 | wahanui | jcamins_away: I forgot searching faq |
| 14:09 | oleonard | 404? Bummer. http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 14:09 | jcamins_away | searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 14:10 | oleonard | I'll try it again jcamins_away |
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| 14:11 | Shane-S | ah appears I missed a step...Zebra Cron Job... |
| 14:11 | *hunts for his install guide print out* , ty | |
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| 14:26 | trea | morning Koha o/ |
| 14:28 | magnus_afk | hiya trea |
| 14:28 | trea | hi magnus_afk |
| 14:29 | is anyone aware of a problem with batch item delete in master currently? | |
| 14:30 | Shane-S | now i really need help.... http://pastebin.com/bMvHZwXf |
| 14:31 | trea | what do you see when you type "env" |
| 14:31 | Shane-S: | |
| 14:32 | Shane-S | any specific segment you want? |
| 14:32 | jcamins_away | Shane-S: you need tos et the environment variables PERL5LIB and KOHA_CONF. |
| 14:32 | *to set | |
| 14:32 | trea | ^ |
| 14:33 | Shane-S | okay...thanks I will see if I missed that or if it wasn't in my install doc I have |
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| 14:34 | chris_n | what date "usually" goes in 260$c? |
| 14:34 | oleonard | The copyright date |
| 14:35 | chris_n | my catalogers thank you :-) |
| 14:37 | oleonard | jcamins_away: Why can't I get my authorities to re-index properly? Is this right? /home/oleonard/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -r -v |
| 14:40 | Shane-S | oleonard: my rebuild_zebra.pl was in /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/, docs have <path/to/koha>/misc/migration_tools/ |
| 14:40 | I used locate to find mine | |
| 14:40 | jcamins_away | oleonard: that looks right, yes. What's it doing when you run that? |
| 14:41 | oleonard: are you getting an error, or just no results when searching? | |
| 14:41 | oleonard | jcamins_away: The problem is that I'm trying to delete one and it continues to show up in search results |
| 14:42 | jcamins_away | oleonard: odd. And deleting the authority worked prior to the patch for 7284? |
| 14:43 | * oleonard | doesn't even know anymore! |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | oleonard: there's something up with deletes in master I think |
| 14:43 | jcamins_away | Ah, that would explain it. |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | i don't have direct evidence yet |
| 14:44 | but it's the first thing i'm going to look at this morning | |
| 14:44 | * jcamins_away | didn't know that. |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | jcamins_away: that's not surprising |
| 14:44 | jcamins_away | And after that, wizzyrea is going to look at 7284, too. It'll be a 7284 party on #koha today. Woohoo! |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 14:44 | * jcamins_away | brings out the saltine chocolate toffee bark. |
| 14:45 | jcamins_away | Shari eats it all. |
| 14:45 | * oleonard | has moved on to the 7284 after-party, Bug 7310 |
| 14:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7310 normal, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) |
| 14:45 | slef | @marc 260 b |
| 14:45 | huginn | slef: Name of publisher, distributor, etc. May contain the abbreviation [s.n.] when the name is unknown. (Repeatable) |
| 14:45 | * jcamins_away | brings out the sandtarts |
| 14:45 | slef | @marc 260 a |
| 14:45 | huginn | slef: Place of publication, distribution, etc. May contain the abbreviation [S.l.] when the place is unknown. (Repeatable) |
| 14:46 | jcamins_away | oleonard: ooh, yeah, that's a good one. But not quite as good as 7284 IMHO. ;) |
| 14:46 | kf | jcamins_away: yum! |
| 14:46 | chris_n: you will want to put it in one of the 00x fields too - so the search works | |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea | confirmed that at least batch delete for items throws a "undefined sub &C4::Search::SimpleSearch |
| 14:47 | " | |
| 14:47 | what's the error you're getting oleonard | |
| 14:47 | chris_n | kf: which? |
| 14:47 | * jcamins_away | is sure that's not caused by 7284. |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea | right, i am too |
| 14:47 | jcamins_away | slef: see kf's message for chris_n. |
| 14:48 | chris_n: pretty sure kf's message was for slef. ;) | |
| 14:48 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I'm not getting any error at all from deleting an authority record. |
| 14:48 | * jcamins_away | runs to catch the bus. |
| 14:49 | slef | hrm |
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| 14:51 | wizzyrea | right, because C4::Search was removed from Items.pm, or removed from a module that referenced it |
| 14:51 | Shane-S | trying to set PERL5LIB...using http://modperlbook.org/html/3-[…]ent-variable.html but not sure what I am doing...reading I should edit /etc/environment but not clear on my perl path |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | at least that's as best I can gather. |
| 14:51 | paul_p | |
| 14:51 | Shane-S | I have /usr/lib/perl5 and /usr/share/perl5 |
| 14:52 | paul_p | wizzyrea yes ? |
| 14:52 | (good morning) | |
| 14:52 | oleonard | Part of C4 de-nesting wizzyrea? |
| 14:52 | chris_n | hi paul_p |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | that's what I suspect |
| 14:52 | magnus_afk | re bug 7577 - i thought OPACViewOthersSuggestions would take care of that sort of thing... |
| 14:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7577 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Suggestion show page |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | paul_p, in batch delete, I think one of the de-nesting patches broke it: Undefined subroutine &C4::Search::SimpleSearch called at /home/liz/kohaclone/C4/Items.pm line 2464. |
| 14:52 | * wizzyrea | will add it to the bug |
| 14:52 | * chris_n | wonders if de-nesting is the same thing that occurs when one collects eggs from the chicken-house |
| 14:56 | magnus_afk | ah, it's for the intranet. then i still wonder what OPACViewOthersSuggestions is supposed to do |
| 14:56 | Shane-S | http://www.perlhowto.com/exten[…]_the_library_path seems a little more clear...where do I point KOHA_CONF /etc/koha/sites/<mysite>/koha_conf.xml? |
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| 14:57 | druthb | o/ |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | oh, paul_p, I bet that's related to srdjan's report |
| 14:57 | * wizzyrea | missed that |
| 14:58 | magnus_afk | Shane-S: are you running off the packages? then there are commands to handle most things for you |
| 14:58 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages | |
| 14:58 | druthb | chris_n: Did you get my note yesterday about bug 7535? |
| 14:58 | magnus_afk | Shane-S: but yes, KOHA_CONF should be the location of your koha_conf.xml |
| 14:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7535 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , OPAC displays ampersands incorrectly. |
| 15:00 | Shane-S | magnus_afk: yep I am, I will try that first :) TY! |
| 15:03 | chris_n | druthb: pushed |
| 15:03 | magnus_afk | Shane-S: you can also do e.g. "man koha-rebuild-zebra" to get documentation for the commands (might be more up to date than the wiki) |
| 15:03 | druthb | Groovy! Thanks, chris_n. |
| 15:04 | kf | chris_n asked abut 260$c copyright date - and the pub date reange search in opac requires that to be in one of the 00x fields too |
| 15:04 | so was for chris_n :) | |
| 15:04 | a pointer because his catalogers will get annoyed if search does not work | |
| 15:04 | and I always forget the exact field | |
| 15:05 | Shane-S | magnus_afk: I don't see a mention of cron in man or wiki, does it do that or can I just setup a cron for koha-rebuild-zebra vs rebuild_zebra.pl? |
| 15:07 | magnus_afk | the packages set up the crons for you |
| 15:07 | Shane-S: have a look in /etc/cron.d/koha-common | |
| 15:08 | Shane-S | hmm...no, but I will. Cause the book appeared when I ran the rebuid, but wasn't coming up before |
| 15:08 | magnus_afk | Shane-S: how long did you wait? |
| 15:09 | Shane-S: i think the default interval for rebuild_zebra is 5 minutes | |
| 15:09 | chris_n | kf: 008 perhaps? |
| 15:09 | @marc 008 | |
| 15:09 | huginn | chris_n: This field contains 40 character positions (00-39) that provide coded information about the record as a whole and about special bibliographic aspects of the item being cataloged. These coded data elements are potentially useful for retrieval and data management purposes. [] |
| 15:10 | magnus_afk | Shane-S: yup, the default is 5 minutes: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8378fbfe4;hb=HEAD you can change that in /etc/cron.d/koha-common |
| 15:10 | Shane-S | magnus_afk: yep set to 5...I will change it for now, as its a single test machine |
| 15:10 | Thank you | |
| 15:10 | magnus_afk | Shane-S: no problem! |
| 15:13 | Shane-S | now to test it out :P |
| 15:14 | this has been a HUGE learning curve for me :P | |
| 15:14 | I normally setup a LAMP server and go | |
| 15:14 | magnus_afk | hey, did i mention recently that the packages are awesome? they are! :-) |
| 15:15 | chris_n | magnus_afk: every seen the HMKG perform? |
| 15:15 | kf | chris_n: sounds likely - sorry, crazy day here |
| 15:15 | chris_n | kf: thanks |
| 15:15 | slef | jcamins_away: hey I just realised you were wrong! |
| 15:15 | magnus_afk | chris_n: yeah, a little bit, at the edinburgh military tatoo, of all places |
| 15:15 | chris_n | they are fantastic |
| 15:16 | magnus_afk | chris_n: not my cup of tea, but yeah, they do well in competitions it seems |
| 15:16 | Shane-S | magnus_afk: yeah, I tried installing Koha 1 or 2 years ago and quit was too hard...got evergreen installed instead..but hated their external XP librarian client |
| 15:16 | magnus_afk | chris_n: or they win prizes or something |
| 15:17 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #40 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 15:17 | magnus_afk | chris_n: something for the cultural programme when kohacon comes to norway some time in the distant future? ;-) |
| 15:17 | chris_n | magnus_afk: yeah, I was watching a video of one of their performances |
| 15:18 | definitely; for those interested in that sort of thing | |
| 15:18 | magnus_afk | chris_n: :-) |
| 15:18 | chris_n | the hours of practice must be incredible |
| 15:18 | magnus_afk | not sure where or when you'd be able to catch them here, though |
| 15:19 | don't think they have regular performances | |
| 15:19 | @wunder boo | |
| 15:19 | huginn | magnus_afk: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (3:50 PM CET on February 22, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.00 in 982 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:19 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 15:19 | huginn | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 17.7°C (10:17 AM EST on February 22, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1000.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:19 | magnus_afk | ooh |
| 15:19 | chris_n | hmm... summer seems to have slipped up w/o notice |
| 15:20 | trade? | |
| 15:20 | * magnus_afk | wanders off out into the "light" snow |
| 15:20 | magnus_afk | chris_n: right now: yes please! |
| 15:21 | magnus_away | see yas! |
| 15:21 | slef | snow that illuminates? |
| 15:21 | chris_n | hehe |
| 15:21 | slef | @wunder dersingham |
| 15:21 | huginn | slef: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Dersingham UK, Sculthorpe, United Kingdom is 8.9°C (3:03 PM GMT on February 22, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa. |
| 15:21 | slef | fells colder |
| 15:21 | feels | |
| 15:22 | probably because the boiler is unsafe, so off | |
| 15:22 | or at least has been labelled unsafe | |
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| 15:33 | jcamins_away | slef, I saw you fussing with 260 and didn't realize it was on behalf of chris_n. I am a bit slow today. |
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| 15:33 | slef | jcamins_away: it wasn't. Two of us are fussing with 260 |
| 15:37 | alaquerre | Good morning. @wizzyrea - I find out how the column object is set to empty in action_logs. This can occur when you try to return a book that is already return. The weird problem is it also take a wrong biblionumber to put in the "info" column. In my case, it take a biblionumber return 1 minutes befores. Look like it's cache problem.. |
| 15:37 | jcamins_away | Heh. |
| 15:37 | alaquerre | But I have another question. |
| 15:38 | :-) Does longoverdue.pl should always return the document or only set the item to the Lost value provided ? | |
| 15:38 | slef | wahanui: exslt? |
| 15:38 | wahanui | slef: i haven't a clue |
| 15:39 | slef | wahanui: exslt are extensions to XSLT described at http://www.exslt.org/ |
| 15:39 | wahanui | OK, slef. |
| 15:39 | slef | wahanui: XSLT? |
| 15:39 | wahanui | XSLT is a maze of twisty turny passages, all alike. |
| 15:39 | slef | close enough! |
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| 15:39 | chris_n | exslt must just be the enhanced version of those passages :) |
| 15:39 | slef | longer passages |
| 15:42 | Shane-S | hmm looks like crontab isn't running, there an easy way to check if it is enabled? |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | Shane-S: crontab -e would look at your currently installed crontabs for the current user |
| 15:45 | the example crontabs are in misc/cronjobs/crontab.example | |
| 15:45 | sorry, /path/to/your/koha/misc/cronjobs/crontab.example | |
| 15:46 | Shane-S | there is a koha-comma file in /etc/cron.d/, and I adjusted the time down to 2 minutes but it isn't rebuilding zebra |
| 15:46 | showing cron is running as PID 1105 | |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | oh, packages. |
| 15:46 | wahanui | package info is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | shh wahanui. |
| 15:47 | anything in your koha logs? | |
| 15:47 | slef | @marc 020 a |
| 15:47 | huginn | slef: International Standard Book Number The valid ISBN and any parenthetical qualifying information. ISBN and the embedded hyphens may be generated for display. |
| 15:47 | wizzyrea | re: zebra |
| 15:47 | Shane-S | let me check... |
| 15:47 | seems more like it isn't running the file, because when I manually did koha-update-zebra my book appeared | |
| 15:48 | slef | anything in your cron logs, any emails from cron in your mailbox, is mail working, ...? |
| 15:49 | Shane-S | zebra-error.log has no errors for today...as per email I never set that up..looking more |
| 15:50 | slef | zebra-error.log is for the zebrasrv not the cron job |
| 15:50 | you'll need email set up else some stuff won't work | |
| 15:50 | overdue notices and cron job deaths most importantly | |
| 15:50 | oleonard | Is embedding [% IF %] inside an HTML tag still a no-no for translations or have we fixed that? |
| 15:51 | slef | if you really don't want/can't have full mail, there was a script on http://planet.debian.org a few days ago |
| 15:52 | Shane-S | yeah, not sure i can have full mail, no mail server in the building, all outsourced to google |
| 15:52 | I guess I "could" just didn't get into that, no so much needed for a single user running the library | |
| 15:53 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #40: SUCCESS in 36 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/40/ |
| 15:53 | ruth: Bug 7535: ampersands not showing properly in non-XSLT OPAC | |
| 15:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7535 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , OPAC displays ampersands incorrectly. |
| 15:53 | kf | oleonard: nono |
| 15:53 | there is a test that will complain | |
| 15:54 | paul_p | OK, I could reproduce the bug 6875, and it's now fixed I think. Patch coming in the next minutes... |
| 15:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6875 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , de-nesting C4 packages |
| 15:54 | paul_p | (the trickiest part was to reproduce it !) |
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| 15:55 | drojf | hello #koha |
| 15:56 | slef | hi drojf |
| 15:56 | oleonard | Can someone remind me of the command that runs the tests? |
| 15:56 | slef | make test ? |
| 15:56 | wizzyrea | prove t xt t/db_dependent |
| 15:56 | or make test | |
| 15:56 | tcohen | hi rangi |
| 15:56 | wizzyrea | bit early for rangi yet |
| 15:56 | slef | tcohen has a premonition |
| 15:56 | tcohen | oh, I always forget that |
| 15:57 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 15:57 | tcohen | slef: hahaha |
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| 15:58 | Shane-S-kohasys | Here is from my syslog... http://pastebin.com/1hLzTnRy |
| 15:58 | maximep | anyone knows of a problem in the opac reserve when on single branch mode ? |
| 15:58 | Shane-S | Was easier to post from there :D |
| 15:59 | is the "test" the issue? | |
| 15:59 | maximep | it seems to pass no branch to addreserve and then addreserve fails :/ |
| 16:01 | or not. Can't find the problem, arg. | |
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| 16:02 | troublemaker | Hi |
| 16:02 | anybody there? | |
| 16:02 | maximep | there's always someone here |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | sup troublemaker |
| 16:03 | * oleonard | hates to have to fail Bug 5668 again... |
| 16:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Failed QA , Star ratings in the opac |
| 16:03 | troublemaker | what up! |
| 16:03 | can i get some help? | |
| 16:04 | kf | oleonard: :( |
| 16:04 | drojf | how would i get all possible values (ie. all values that actually occur in my records) for a certain field to show up as options of a pulldown menu in opac-search.pl? |
| 16:05 | wizzyrea | @quote get 145 |
| 16:05 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:37 PM, July 07, 2011) |
| 16:05 | drojf | s/certain field/certain MARC subfield/ |
| 16:05 | troublemaker | im trying to translate the last koha version to spanish......but i got this error.........Can't locate C4/TmplTokenType.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /root/perl5/lib/perl5/...... |
| 16:06 | kf | julian_m: the changes for bug 7178 sound good! hope I can test soon |
| 16:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Improve order item creation |
| 16:06 | troublemaker | would be great if anybody helps me out |
| 16:06 | kf | drojf: not aware of a method really :( |
| 16:06 | drojf | kf: d'oh |
| 16:06 | kf | drojf: it would be nice to be able to do that... alphabetic registers... and autocompletes.. hm |
| 16:07 | drojf: have you seen the new 'ad' for our presentation? | |
| 16:07 | drojf | nope |
| 16:08 | seems he already forgot about me :( | |
| 16:08 | kf | your name is on it :) |
| 16:09 | julian_m | kf, hope that the patch will pass all your tests :) and by the way, thx for the review |
| 16:09 | kf | julian_m: thx for incorporating my suggestions :) |
| 16:09 | troublemaker | :( |
| 16:09 | help me out guys please | |
| 16:09 | kf | troublemaker: what have you done before you got the error? |
| 16:09 | troublemaker: and what version of koha are you using? | |
| 16:09 | it's a bit hard to help you with only the error message :) | |
| 16:10 | troublemaker | ok |
| 16:10 | ill tell ya | |
| 16:10 | im using the last version of koha | |
| 16:10 | 3.6 | |
| 16:10 | http://universidadinsurgentesd[…]omethods.com:666/ | |
| 16:10 | paul_p | bug 6875 need an urgent signoff to fix serials perl error !!! |
| 16:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6875 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , de-nesting C4 packages |
| 16:10 | paul_p | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=7808 |
| 16:10 | julian_m | troublemaker, not sure, but it seems that you need to set the PERL5LIB env var |
| 16:11 | troublemaker | im running ....../tmpl_process3.pl and create a ne folder for the spanish translation with the PO files |
| 16:12 | then i got the error | |
| 16:14 | im running the script such as it ../tmpl_process3.pl install -i .../intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/ -o /.../.../koha36installx/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/es-MX -s /home/.../es-ES-i-staff-t-prog-v-3006000.po -r | |
| 16:15 | oleonard | Is it typical that running prove t/db_dependent returns several failures? |
| 16:16 | troublemaker | how can i set the PERL5LIB? |
| 16:16 | slef | oleonard: shouldn't be, surely? |
| 16:16 | troublemaker: put PERL5LIB=path/to/C4 at the start of the line. | |
| 16:16 | troublemaker: or run export PERL5LIB=path/to/C4 | |
| 16:17 | and then it's set for the rest of the session | |
| 16:20 | reiveune | à demain |
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| 16:21 | maximep | $template->param('singleBranchMode') in opac-reserve.pl seems to not work. Should I use $template->{'VARS'}->{'singleBranchMode'} or just use C4::Context->preference("singleBranchMode") ? |
| 16:22 | oleonard | Ah so, that's who has been deleting all my virtual shelves! It was t/db_dependent! |
| 16:22 | Shane-S | okay think i found the issue if I run koha-rebuild-zebra <mysite> it updates, the cron just has $(koha-list --enabled) anyone know where that pulls from? |
| 16:23 | troublemaker | thanx ill try |
| 16:23 | chris_n | oleonard: db_dependent tests should be considered db-destructive :-) |
| 16:24 | oleonard | chris_n: So it's normal? |
| 16:25 | chris_n | well, those tests perform writes/reads/deletes in various forms to the db |
| 16:25 | so really anything is "normal" | |
| 16:25 | oleonard | Okay, fair enough. I'm new to such things. |
| 16:25 | chris_n | its been a long time since I looked at the virtual shelves tests, so I could not suggest what to expect there |
| 16:26 | oleonard | What about the failures chris_n? Do you think I should not be seeing any? |
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| 16:26 | chris_n | it is not recommended to run that test suite on a production or otherwise important db |
| 16:26 | oleonard: I think that they should pass when running over a clean install of the sample data with 3.6.x or master | |
| 16:26 | * chris_n | knows they pass on 3.6.x |
| 16:27 | chris_n | now as for the validity of the tests, I cannot vouch to that |
| 16:28 | Shane-S | is it bad if I have 2 folders in /etc/koha/sites and one is empty? |
| 16:28 | chris_n | ie. some may pass, which should not |
| 16:28 | but that would be a bug and should be filed as such I think | |
| 16:30 | troublemaker | last time i export the PERL5LIB i got an opac error....do i have to export this to c4 folder without running the PO FILE¡? |
| 16:37 | still gettin the same error after running the translate | |
| 16:37 | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at TmplTokenizer.pm line 5. | |
| 16:39 | jcamins_away | troublemaker: I would guess that you upgraded from 3.2, and do not have Template::Toolkit installed (libtemplate-perl on Debian). |
| 16:40 | troublemaker: however, you need to actually provide the entire error message for more help troubleshooting. | |
| 16:41 | troublemaker | nop its not an upgrade, i ve install it fresh |
| 16:41 | jcamins | troublemaker: how did you install it? |
| 16:41 | (packages?, etc.?) | |
| 16:41 | Shane-S | anyone familiar with /usr/sbin/koha-list? |
| 16:42 | troublemaker | OK guys this is the full error |
| 16:42 | Can't locate C4/TmplTokenType.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/www/koha36installx/lib/C4 /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at TmplTokenizer.pm line 5. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at TmplTokenizer.pm line 5. Compilation fail | |
| 16:42 | jcamins | troublemaker: in that case the problem is that you didn't set PERL5LIB properly. |
| 16:42 | It should be set to /home/www/koha36installx/lib | |
| 16:42 | (without the /C4 at the end) | |
| 16:42 | Shane-S: the first question? | |
| 16:42 | wahanui | well, the first question is "What are you trying to do?" |
| 16:43 | jcamins | :) |
| 16:44 | Shane-S | well it doesn't seem to work, it is used in the cron.d file |
| 16:44 | if I manually run koha-rebuild-zebra npslibrary , zebra rebuilds, so I have narrowed my issue down to the cron.d koha-common file | |
| 16:44 | jcamins | Odd. |
| 16:45 | What happens if you run sudo koha-list --enabled | |
| 16:46 | Shane-S | i get a grep error for /etc/apache2/sites-available/nationalpark: No such file or directory |
| 16:46 | then I get my 2 sites... nationalpark and npslibrary | |
| 16:46 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 16:46 | Shane-S | should i remove /etc/koha/sites/nationalpark? |
| 16:46 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 16:47 | It sounds like a koha-remove was aborted in the middle? | |
| 16:47 | Shane-S | kk it unused anyway |
| 16:47 | I remember typing that during the web setup...but then I got a session time-out error and had to restart | |
| 16:47 | troublemaker | yeah it works |
| 16:47 | almost done | |
| 16:47 | just got 1 more error | |
| 16:47 | Charset in/out: UTF-8 at ./tmpl_process3.pl line 275. | |
| 16:48 | kf | troublemaker: exporting the env variables (both) before |
| 16:48 | uh sorry | |
| 16:48 | scrolling in my chat window broken again | |
| 16:48 | troublemaker: does it still finish? because I think you can ignore that probably | |
| 16:49 | Shane-S | okay error went away with --enabled...now I will wait :P |
| 16:49 | troublemaker | i ran export KOHA_CONF=/home/www/koha36installx/etc/koha-conf.xml export PERL5LIB=/home/www/koha36installx/lib/ |
| 16:49 | from my terminal | |
| 16:49 | Shane-S | I kept trying it without sudo and it kept giving me empty line :( |
| 16:53 | troublemaker: using Ubuntu? If so what I read is that is a "session" variable and will be removed when you logout/shutdown ... https://help.ubuntu.com/commun[…]ironmentVariables | |
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| 16:53 | troublemaker | im using debian wheezy |
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| 16:54 | troublemaker | in a virtual server |
| 16:55 | Shane-S | <-- *nix light weight, I would check with ppl here, but you might need to make it a persistent variable |
| 16:55 | What does an [E] in italics mean after a "Location" in the catalog search results? | |
| 16:56 | Oh, that fixed my Zebra issue, ty very much | |
| 16:56 | now it showed up, but with a [E] after the location, my other book does not have that (same location) | |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | call number? |
| 16:57 | wahanui | call number is in the location |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | there you have it |
| 16:57 | jcamins | Heh. I didn't know wahanui knew that. |
| 16:57 | :) | |
| 16:57 | * wizzyrea | either |
| 16:57 | troublemaker | i was able to make the translation on 3.4, after exporting variables KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB......running the perl fro tmpl process and creating the new folder with the PO paths |
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| 16:58 | Shane-S | ah okay :P |
| 16:58 | jcamins | troublemaker: you can't use a 3.4 translation on a 3.6 installation. |
| 16:58 | Or, rather, you *can*, but you shouldn't. | |
| 16:58 | Shane-S | have to fix that, it imported from the Z39.50 record |
| 16:58 | troublemaker | now in 3.6 im gettin this Charset in/out: UTF-8 at ./tmpl_process3.pl line 275. Charset in/out: UTF-8 at ./tmpl_process3.pl line 275. Charset in/out: UTF-8 at ./tmpl_process3.pl line 275. |
| 16:58 | jcamins | Shane-S: adjust the 952$o |
| 16:58 | troublemaker: that doesn't seem like a problem. | |
| 16:58 | It's telling you that it's using UTF-8. | |
| 16:59 | (provided it finishes) | |
| 16:59 | troublemaker | yeah but it stucks there |
| 17:00 | im using the 300600 por files for each template | |
| 17:00 | PO* files | |
| 17:00 | there shouldnt be problem | |
| 17:00 | :( | |
| 17:01 | jcamins | I don't know much about translating. |
| 17:01 | cait will be able to advise you better when she's on later. | |
| 17:06 | Shane-S | how do you add book covers? |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | more -> tools -> upload local cover image |
| 17:07 | Shane-S | cool thanks |
| 17:09 | wizzyrea: uh, I have Upload Patron Images but that is it, is it under Inventory/stocktaking? | |
| 17:09 | wizzyrea | oh, sorry |
| 17:09 | that would be in Master | |
| 17:09 | you can't do it in 3.6 | |
| 17:09 | Shane-S | really...hack to do it? |
| 17:10 | we are an elementary school....kids need pictures | |
| 17:10 | all this works goes out the window without that *cries* | |
| 17:10 | eternalsword | I actually needed to add a column to the borrowers table for the externalid value coming from our external database system. I would have just put that value in borrowernumber, but apparently you can't explicitly set an AUTOINCREMENT field. Anyways, I'm working on packaging my changes into the source, so how do I need to set the $DBversion parameter in updatedatabase.pl? |
| 17:11 | oleonard | Shane-S: Administration -> System Preferences -> Enhanced Content |
| 17:11 | You can set up book cover images from Amazon.com, Google, Open Library, and paid sources | |
| 17:13 | eternalsword | I guess I need to upgrade to the git version and then use the latest stable version as the value? |
| 17:14 | Shane-S | oleonard: awesome worked for 1...assume it pulls via ISBN? |
| 17:14 | oleonard | Shane-S: Yes. |
| 17:14 | Shane-S | alright thanks! |
| 17:14 | oleonard | Shane-S: And thus problematic for items with no ISBN like DVDs |
| 17:14 | eternalsword: Could you use extended patron attributes instead? | |
| 17:15 | Shane-S | oleonard: is there a way to specify the thumbnail size? I see it is larger on Google the Koha |
| 17:15 | then* | |
| 17:16 | oleonard | Shane-S: No |
| 17:18 | Shane-S | Amazon OPAC require that key? It isn't working, Google did though |
| 17:18 | oleonard | Amazon covers shouldn't require a key |
| 17:18 | Shane-S | k, Ill check the ISBN |
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| 17:20 | cait | hi #koha |
| 17:21 | troublemaker | thanx for helping out guys i made the translation sucessfully!!!!!!! |
| 17:21 | Shane-S | that is different...can you list mulptiple ISBN's? |
| 17:22 | troublemaker | http://universidadinsurgentesd[…]iomethods.com:66/ |
| 17:22 | now ill try to change the basket title from MAPA, to CARRITO.... | |
| 17:22 | oleonard | Shane-S: MARC allows you to enter more than one ISBN but I'm pretty sure the OPAC pulls from the first one listed. |
| 17:23 | Shane-S | oleonard: Great, thanks! would I just duplicate 020? |
| 17:23 | oleonard | Yes |
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| 17:23 | Shane-S | cool, that way we can have alternates in there for lookup/purchase |
| 17:34 | I'll stick to ISBN based for now :P | |
| 17:34 | jcamins | That's a very good idea. |
| 17:35 | Shane-S | how does it pick if I do Amazon, Google, Open Library, and the Sym/n one? |
| 17:35 | jcamins | Shane-S: it uses all of them. |
| 17:35 | eternalsword | oleonard: looking now. |
| 17:36 | jcamins | So you end up with 4 images (or four "no image found" boxes). |
| 17:36 | Shane-S | Ah |
| 17:36 | jcamins | kmkale is working on a prioritization thing. It has a bug. |
| 17:37 | (I mean, in the tracker) | |
| 17:37 | bug 7187 | |
| 17:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kmkale, NEW , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next |
| 17:37 | * oleonard | thinks that's going to be a bear to solve |
| 17:38 | * jcamins | agrees. |
| 17:38 | would try if kmkale decided not to work on it, and someone were interested in paying for it, but not otherwise. | |
| 17:42 | oleonard | jcamins: That was a medium-sized "if" followed by a very big "if" :) |
| 17:45 | jcamins | oleonard: right. It is my belief that the two together are sufficient to protect me from the need to follow through. :P |
| 17:46 | eternalsword | oleonard, unfortunately no. I need to use the externalid as the parameter for lookup with exists_local in order to get the borrowernumber. I do this since the external system allows changing the userid. To use extended attributes, I would need borrowernumber first, which would eliminate my need to use externalid at all. |
| 17:47 | * chris_n | holds his breath on that one |
| 17:49 | Shane-S | okay so I want to change the images to have borders and padding and I noticed CSS ID of id="gbs-thumbnail1" and such, seems it increments, is there a file I can edit the code? |
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| 17:49 | Shane-S | or a way to add an addition class to the incremental loop |
| 17:49 | jcamins | Shane-S: don't. Use OpacUserCSS. |
| 17:49 | Shane-S: modifying the templates directly leads to a world of hurt. Just ask wizzyrea. | |
| 17:50 | Shane-S | okay, but there is no consistent class or id |
| 17:51 | jcamins | Shane-S: in that case, I suggest you submit a patch that provides a consistent class. |
| 17:52 | oleonard | Shane-S: It looks like you've got the class "p1" on the <a> tag which wraps the image |
| 17:52 | Shane-S | I want each one with a border and spacing, right now they touch/blend |
| 17:52 | I will give it a shot with nested CSS | |
| 17:53 | oleonard | Each one? |
| 17:53 | Shane-S | see if I can do it, but it might NOT work... such as a.p1 div |
| 17:54 | jcamins | Shane-S: it seems to me that should work. |
| 17:57 | Shane-S | yep that did...but now I have to sort the width of the div out :P |
| 17:57 | eternalsword | div inside a paragraph tag? that doesn't seem right |
| 17:57 | Shane-S | its not so lovely |
| 17:57 | eternalsword | I mean, inside a tag |
| 17:58 | Shane-S | <-- does it all the time with <ul><li> to make dynamic CSS based lists |
| 17:59 | oleonard | eternalsword: No, it's not right (as in valid) |
| 17:59 | That particular page has accumulated a lot of validation problems | |
| 17:59 | eternalsword | what exactly is the purpose of the div? |
| 17:59 | oleonard | It's a hook for dynamically loading the Google cover image |
| 18:00 | It could probably just as easily be a <span> | |
| 18:00 | Shane-S | words outta my mouth |
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| 18:00 | Shane-S | div serv no purpose, though I am gonna try floating them now :D |
| 18:01 | then a div serves a purpose | |
| 18:01 | spans are not supposed to be "block" level if I remember correctly | |
| 18:01 | oleonard | A div can serve any purpose we choose--that's what makes them so useful (as long as we use them in a valid way) |
| 18:01 | eternalsword | Is there text with it too? If not, why not just inject into the <a> directly? If it's a matter of block level, just use display:block on the anchor. |
| 18:02 | Shane-S | one anchor -> multiple divs, hence nested inside the and anchor |
| 18:02 | stupid little chat box :P | |
| 18:03 | eternalsword | that seems even worse. |
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| 18:03 | Shane-S | why would you want to bloat it with 4 anchors and 4 divs? |
| 18:03 | eternalsword | does the anchor not actually link to anything? or is it used for some onclick? |
| 18:04 | Shane-S | anchors to the single biblio record for the item |
| 18:04 | if you enable all 4 book cover image sources they all link to the book's detail page on the OPAC results page | |
| 18:05 | eternalsword | not good ui as blank space between the items would still be clickable. |
| 18:06 | Shane-S | my margin isn't |
| 18:06 | playing with it now though...the width looks to be my issue...hoping float will work. | |
| 18:07 | sweet got rid of stacking! no crappy border going across either | |
| 18:08 | gotta love CSS (and that at least I know that :D ) | |
| 18:08 | I might allow you guys to see it, just need to setup uPnP forwarding | |
| 18:09 | troublemaker | anybody coudl send me some cool css template for OPAC'? |
| 18:09 | :) | |
| 18:09 | eternalsword | Shane-S, if you float, the blank horizontal space between I believe will be clickable. If not in your browser, you may want to do cross-browser testing. |
| 18:10 | by the spec, it should be clickable anyways. | |
| 18:10 | jcamins | troublemaker: I like mine, but it's rather involved. http://demo.cplibraries.com/ |
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| 18:16 | Shane-S | 68.36.8.202:8082 search seuss |
| 18:17 | http://68.36.8.202:8082 | |
| 18:17 | jcamins | Shane-S watches his bandwidth spike. |
| 18:17 | :P | |
| 18:18 | Shane-S | hope not, but its a dynamic IP comcast will switch it some day |
| 18:18 | eternalsword: it appears in FFx 10.1 margins are not "clickable" | |
| 18:20 | Shane-S-kohasys | http://pastebin.com/scRbpar9 code I used to do it if anyone is curious |
| 18:20 | Shane-S | that link work for anyone? |
| 18:21 | jcamins | Doesn't seem to be working. |
| 18:21 | (it took a while to time out) | |
| 18:22 | rangi | Morning |
| 18:22 | troublemaker | JCAMINS your template is cool! |
| 18:23 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 18:23 | troublemaker: glad you like it. :) | |
| 18:23 | cait | good morning rangi :) |
| 18:23 | rangi | Library.hauraki-dc.govt.nz |
| 18:23 | Shane-S | hmm I will have to check the apache conf on my ticket system and see if the Koha once isn't set to respond to it |
| 18:23 | troublemaker | so where i can get it |
| 18:23 | wahanui | so it is probably not ibot's morning. |
| 18:24 | jcamins | troublemaker: you can crib it off the OPAC. The main bit is cpbibliography.css. |
| 18:25 | And then there's a bit of javascript in opacuserjs. | |
| 18:25 | Note that it's probably not IE-friendly. | |
| 18:25 | And replacing opac.css is probably not recommended. | |
| 18:26 | Unfortunately, FF has a bug in its CSS override handling, so that was a much easier option. | |
| 18:26 | troublemaker | so how do i put this on my own opac without errors :) |
| 18:27 | jcamins | troublemaker: download the CSS file, set that CSS file in opacstylesheet. |
| 18:27 | cait | which is a system preference under administration :) |
| 18:27 | jcamins | Right. |
| 18:28 | troublemaker | perfect man! |
| 18:28 | ill try it | |
| 18:28 | pastebot | "jcamins" at 98.14.163.79 pasted "troublemaker: opacuserjs" (48 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/270 |
| 18:28 | jcamins | ^^ and put that stuff in opacuserjs. |
| 18:28 | There are also some images involved, which you'll want to replace. | |
| 18:29 | troublemaker | yeah |
| 18:29 | jcamins | (unless you want to brand your OPAC "C & P," in which case you'll need to license it:P) |
| 18:29 | troublemaker | well im guessin if you could send me in one zip the JS and CSS files please |
| 18:29 | to my email | |
| 18:30 | you guys here in kohachat're really nice | |
| 18:30 | jcamins | You can just download it off the OPAC. |
| 18:30 | Shane-S | wonder if it is a firewall setting on Ubuntu Desktop...the other system works and it is running server |
| 18:30 | jcamins | It's just the one file. |
| 18:30 | (cpbibliography.css) | |
| 18:31 | troublemaker | and opacuserjs? |
| 18:31 | jcamins | I pasted it. |
| 18:31 | opacuserjs is a syspref. | |
| 18:31 | You just copy the contents of the paste into the box. | |
| 18:37 | troublemaker | ok you guys tell me im a noob but.... |
| 18:37 | where i get the cpbibliography.css | |
| 18:38 | jcamins | Just download it off the OPAC. |
| 18:38 | chris_n | cait: actually it looks like 260$c is indexed as copydate |
| 18:38 | troublemaker | ok how |
| 18:38 | jcamins | I don't know the exact path, but if you look at the source, you'll find a reference to it somewhere. |
| 18:38 | chris_n | melm 260$c copydate,copydate:s |
| 18:38 | cait | chris_n: there is a different between the search option and the date range search in advanced search |
| 18:38 | oh | |
| 18:38 | an sorting | |
| 18:39 | chris_n | ahh |
| 18:39 | looks like most of our 008 fields have empty chars in 7-10 | |
| 18:39 | so the pain is probably already there | |
| 18:40 | troublemaker | oki |
| 18:40 | then where i should use this http://paste.koha-community.org/270 | |
| 18:40 | it was for me right? | |
| 18:40 | chris_n | well, that's not entirely true |
| 18:41 | just records they've created locally | |
| 18:41 | jcamins | chris_n: yeah, copydate vs. pubdate is idiotic. |
| 18:41 | chris_n: what's the question? | |
| 18:41 | cait | chris_n: probably but good to know for new records |
| 18:41 | * jcamins | missed the beginning of the conversation. |
| 18:41 | jcamins | chris_n: yeah, that's pretty common. |
| 18:41 | Yes. | |
| 18:41 | chris_n: I thought you were saying not to use opacuserjs. :( | |
| 18:41 | You put that in the opacuserjs syspref. | |
| 18:41 | (System Administration->System Preferences->OPAC) | |
| 18:41 | chris_n: sure you do. | |
| 18:41 | chris_n: just ignore me please. | |
| 18:41 | chris_n | seems koha should automagically copy 206$c into 008 |
| 18:41 | rangi | My stop bbiab |
| 18:41 | jcamins | chris_n: there's a complication. |
| 18:41 | chris_n | jcamins: you're too important to ignore :-) |
| 18:42 | jcamins | The data you enter in 008/07-10 is not the same as what you enter in 260$c. |
| 18:42 | Though if your catalogers are not putting the date in 008/07-10, chances are they're not using the more complicated options for 260$c. | |
| 18:43 | So you'd probably be fine finding the 4-digit year and just copying it over. | |
| 18:43 | * jcamins | goes to eat lunch, in the hopes that food will make him more coherent. |
| 18:43 | cait | good luck! |
| 18:43 | chris_n | they're just putting copyright date into 260$c |
| 18:44 | so that would equate to a 't' in 008 char 6, right? | |
| 18:44 | cait | t? |
| 18:44 | * chris_n | is very poor when it comes to MARC |
| 18:44 | chris_n | cait: see http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd008a.html |
| 18:44 | t - Publication date and copyright date | |
| 18:44 | cait | ah |
| 18:44 | jcamins | chris_n: probably s. |
| 18:44 | cait | probably |
| 18:44 | or is | |
| 18:45 | I think koha doesn't care | |
| 18:45 | jcamins | chris_n: because t means that you have to fill out both copyright *and* publication date. |
| 18:45 | I'd go with s. | |
| 18:45 | * jcamins | really goes for lunch. :) |
| 18:48 | chris_n | s does make more sense |
| 18:48 | * chris_n | wonders how hard it will be to get the catalogers to do this |
| 18:48 | chris_n | thanks cait and jcamins |
| 18:54 | rangi | back |
| 18:57 | slef | chris_n: threaten to make up a new set of cataloguing rules for title fields. |
| 18:57 | that'll scare them into line | |
| 18:58 | * jcamins | returns. |
| 18:58 | Shane-S | jcamins: I got the URL working now |
| 18:58 | I never hit "enable" on the my routers uPnP settings :P | |
| 18:59 | jcamins | Shane-S: that does look better. |
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| 18:59 | jcamins | Nifty. :) |
| 19:00 | Shane-S | I didn't see covers on your site, there a reason (or bad search on my part)? |
| 19:01 | jcamins | Shane-S: none of the records in that demo would have covers in any external databases, and I haven't gotten around to uploading example cover images. |
| 19:02 | Shane-S | ah, well I made that pastebin never delete if you ever want that code to use. |
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| 19:03 | jcamins | Shane-S: thanks. :) |
| 19:04 | Shane-S | can anyone direct me to the script/file that creates the OPAC table? I would like to divisionize it to allow it to be fully customized ...IE books on the right or left, via float |
| 19:05 | jcamins | Shane-S: the template is opac-results.tt. |
| 19:06 | Shane-S: I'm not sure you can't do that via javascript and CSS, though. | |
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| 19:08 | jcamins | We should probably use CSS for the results table anyway, shouldn't we? |
| 19:08 | * jcamins | looks to oleonard for words of wisdom on that subject. |
| 19:08 | oleonard | Hunh? Wha? |
| 19:08 | chris_n | slef: lol |
| 19:08 | troublemaker | opac for my friend aarkerio |
| 19:08 | http://decodic.incan.edu.mx/ | |
| 19:09 | simple and nice | |
| 19:10 | jcamins | oleonard: should we really be using CSS for the results table rather than <table>? |
| 19:10 | oleonard | It would be nice if the OPAC used a more modern and flexible grid system. Then the results could be a nested grid instead of a table and column swapping would be easier. |
| 19:10 | * jcamins | isn't proposing to change it, just wondering if that's what we _should_ be doing. |
| 19:10 | * chris_n | wonders why no one seems to customize the layers on the cart buttons so that the rounded corners appear to match their background |
| 19:10 | * jcamins | did. |
| 19:11 | jcamins | Oh, then I got rid of the button entirely. |
| 19:11 | oleonard | chris_n: Because it's difficult I suppose. Or they haven't ready my blog post about it. Or both. |
| 19:11 | jcamins | And decided to use CSS3 rounded corners because I don't care that much about old browsers. |
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| 19:13 | Shane-S | I accidentally hit backspace on the web chat...switched to chatzilla in FFx :P |
| 19:14 | * oleonard | is fond of Chatzilla |
| 19:14 | oleonard | Bug 7584 |
| 19:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7584 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Update cart and lists buttons style using CSS3 features |
| 19:14 | maximep | is it only in french that the translate scripts removes all newlines ? |
| 19:14 | as usual can't find a bug aobut it | |
| 19:14 | cait | what kind of newlines? |
| 19:15 | do you have an example with a problem? | |
| 19:15 | maximep | opac-sendbasket.tt |
| 19:15 | <SUBJECT> | |
| 19:15 | Mon dossier<END_SUBJECT> | |
| 19:15 | missing newling befpore the end.. so send basket doesn't work at all on 3.6 for us | |
| 19:15 | cait | let me check |
| 19:15 | I am not aware of a general problem | |
| 19:16 | there was some problem with spaces | |
| 19:16 | but that was fixed... not sure in which version though :( | |
| 19:16 | maximep | really ? hmmm, since 3.6 we lost all newlines in all our fr-CA templates |
| 19:16 | cait | thought 3.6 |
| 19:16 | maximep | and sendbask seems to use regex that expects \n |
| 19:17 | Shane-S | can I access the single files anywhere? I like my script editor on my mac, but only want that opac-results.tt to look at |
| 19:17 | cait | maximep: not sure I really get it |
| 19:17 | maximep | well is your opac-sendbasket.tt in 42 lines or in 8 |
| 19:17 | in other languages | |
| 19:18 | jcamins | Shane-S: I *strongly* recommend you use git, if you're going to be editing the templates. |
| 19:18 | *STRONGLY*! | |
| 19:18 | maximep | git is your best friend =) |
| 19:19 | jcamins | Indeed. |
| 19:19 | Shane-S | no clue how to use git, and I just want to "look" at it legibly to see if it is ever worth editing...then I might consider git, that is a package manager right? |
| 19:19 | cait | maximep: how do the newlines look like? in po? |
| 19:19 | maximep: are those \n? | |
| 19:20 | maximep | in po ? |
| 19:20 | i dont understand | |
| 19:20 | cait | you said it was a problem with the translaton scripts? |
| 19:20 | maximep | yes |
| 19:20 | cait | can you perhaps paste the code? |
| 19:20 | maximep | what code ? |
| 19:20 | wahanui | code is, like, kept at git.koha-community.org |
| 19:20 | cait | the problematic code, the english and the french version |
| 19:21 | maximep | any template, really |
| 19:21 | cait | ? |
| 19:21 | so oyur templates are all on one line? | |
| 19:22 | maximep | almost |
| 19:22 | jcamins | Shane-S: git is a version control system. |
| 19:23 | Shane-S: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]11ccbd04d;hb=HEAD | |
| 19:24 | Shane-S | jcamins: thank you, how did you do that, I kept getting stats |
| 19:24 | cait | maximep: that sounds weird |
| 19:26 | jcamins | Shane-S: yeah, that took me a while to figure out. On the far right there's a column of "tree" links. |
| 19:26 | I clicked on the tree link for koha.git. | |
| 19:29 | maximep | but I can't be the only one not using en that has that problem :/ |
| 19:30 | rangi | en-NZ and mi-NZ dont have that problem .. nor does de afaik |
| 19:31 | jcamins | maximep: you're on a fork of 3.6.0, right? I'm not sure that many libraries adopted 3.6.0. |
| 19:33 | schuster | jcamins still having problems when I when to edit or add a record today. I "stashed" my git for the bug and went to master and was able to edit/create a record there. |
| 19:33 | maximep | yeah... I bet most translations of 3.6 are really behind |
| 19:33 | schuster | I'm going to eat lunch be back in about 20 minutes. |
| 19:33 | cait | maximep: let me check something |
| 19:33 | maximep | rangi: really ? juste did a ./translate install fr-FR to test and I get the same. Templates without newlines in them |
| 19:33 | jcamins | schuster: hm. When you get back I'll ask you about the error message. |
| 19:34 | cait | bug 6958 |
| 19:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6958 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, frederic, RESOLVED FIXED, Missing spaces in translated templates |
| 19:34 | rangi | maximep: yep really on 3.6.3 and cait tests the de ones quite frequently |
| 19:35 | jcamins | cait: speaking of which, you should update your de translation, since it's out of date and missing the latest sysprefs. :P |
| 19:35 | cait | jcamins: :P |
| 19:35 | maximep | ok, will update everything in misc/translator to latest 3.6.3 to see |
| 19:35 | cait | yeah I have to, I normally only update when I test some translations... stupid browser detection |
| 19:36 | jcamins | Heh. Maybe it needs to be possible to disable browser detection? |
| 19:37 | slef | browser detection should always be overridable |
| 19:37 | rangi | i hate that stupid browser detection crap |
| 19:43 | maximep | nope, no luck. Nothing was really changed in those scripts since 3.6.0. Maybe it's the locale of my system... I really have no idea |
| 19:43 | cait | can you try installing german? |
| 19:43 | and check that? | |
| 19:43 | de-DE | |
| 19:44 | jcamins | maximep: try checking out 3.6.3 on the same machine, and see if the translate works for that? |
| 19:44 | maximep | cait: same for all languages |
| 19:45 | jcamins: will try | |
| 19:45 | * chris_n | carefully reverts all de-nesting related code from 3.6.x |
| 19:45 | chris_n | what a ride |
| 19:46 | jcamins | chris_n: oh, yeah, don't de-nest 3.6.x. |
| 19:46 | chris_n | that code is super-unstable |
| 19:46 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 19:46 | * chris_n | goes off to examin the QA trail |
| 19:47 | * jcamins | tested a bunch of them individually, but didn't realize that they would interact. |
| 19:47 | jcamins | And it was a situation where any *one* module could be de-nested, but if you nested two, suddenly lots of strange things broke. |
| 19:48 | chris_n | de-nesting is one of those large projects which really must be done and tested entirely before committing |
| 19:48 | as much as we would like the "bite sized piece" approach for large projects this one is like doing heart surgery | |
| 19:48 | jcamins | Well, 3.8.x is known to be unstable. |
| 19:49 | chris_n | and may be for a long time |
| 19:49 | rangi | actually i think it would be easier the other way chris_n |
| 19:49 | one module at a time | |
| 19:49 | pushed | |
| 19:49 | and tested | |
| 19:49 | then another don | |
| 19:49 | e | |
| 19:49 | chris_n | rangi: right, but "tested" is the operative word there |
| 19:49 | rangi | the fact that a pile were pushed at once is the major problem |
| 19:49 | * chris_n | questions the extent of testing in this case |
| 19:49 | rangi | it makes tracking problems nightmarishly hard |
| 19:49 | chris_n | jcamins: we also agreed to keep master stable as much as possible |
| 19:50 | by using QA branches | |
| 19:50 | jcamins | chris_n: agreed, but at least everyone using it knows that there *could* be instability. |
| 19:50 | chris_n | there was a lack of through testing in this case imho |
| 19:50 | Shane-S | I think I can make opac-results.tt table-less...might give it a shot |
| 19:50 | jcamins | Shane-S: use git! |
| 19:50 | chris_n: without a doubt. | |
| 19:51 | Shane-S | is that n automated response to file names? |
| 19:51 | jcamins | Shane-S: no, but that's a good idea. We should train our bot wahanui to say that. :) |
| 19:53 | Shane-S | well I am gonna use the file I have now and try it out first :P |
| 19:54 | jcamins | Shane-S: don't say I didn't warn you-! |
| 19:54 | maximep | looks like it's somehow a .po problem. The one we imported from 3.2 is correct, but not the one based on 3.6. So frustrating :/ |
| 19:55 | cait | maximep: we have 5 libraries on 3.6.3 with german now - no problems reported |
| 19:55 | maximep | ok thanks, glad it's only a problem for me |
| 19:55 | cait | bet you are not really glad ; |
| 19:55 | ;) | |
| 19:55 | but hope you can find out what the problem is soon | |
| 19:55 | maximep | no, not really haha |
| 19:56 | Shane-S | I don't understand what git is does/how to edit :P |
| 19:57 | jcamins | Shane-S: it's a version control system. |
| 19:57 | git? | |
| 19:57 | wahanui | somebody said git was http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 19:57 | jcamins | ^^ read that. :) |
| 19:57 | oleonard | Shane-S: It's overkill if you just want to be trying stuff out, but if you're interested in contributing code it's pretty much required. |
| 19:57 | jcamins | Shane-S: and if you want to keep your changes, it's pretty much required. |
| 19:58 | Shane-S: and if you want people to offer feedback, it's de rigeur. | |
| 19:58 | (yes! I just used the phrase "de rigeur" in conversation!) | |
| 19:58 | maximep | we don't even use it in french :p |
| 19:59 | jcamins | maximep: well I get double points then! |
| 19:59 | :D | |
| 20:02 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #41 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:02 | schuster | jcamins - I'm starting over at the bug submission from 2/21/12 making sure all the files are in the right place etc.. I'll come back "if" I get stuck again. |
| 20:03 | jcamins | schuster: yeah, due to the frequent changes in master, I've rebased several times in the past week. |
| 20:10 | schuster | well I was able on "master" branch to open a record edit it and save. I switched branches - open a record edit it and save - and get Undefined subroutine &C4::Heading::SearchAuthorities called at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Heading.pm line 205 |
| 20:11 | jcamins | schuster: I can tell you how to fix that. |
| 20:11 | schuster | K |
| 20:11 | jcamins | schuster: and you just applied the latest patch on the latest master? |
| 20:11 | schuster | Yes pulled and git bz last night |
| 20:11 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 20:12 | I'm not sure why I don't have that problem, but open up C4/Heading.pm | |
| 20:12 | schuster | Yep |
| 20:12 | jcamins | Search for "SearchAuthorities" |
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| 20:12 | schuster | Yep |
| 20:12 | Shane-S | if I used the packages can I still use git? |
| 20:12 | jcamins | I believe that's inside an if statement. |
| 20:13 | If it's inside an if statement, on the line after the if( ... ) add "require C4::AuthorityMarc;" | |
| 20:13 | If it's not inside an if statement, put the "require C4::AuthorityMarc;" right before the SearchAuthorities. | |
| 20:13 | oleonard | http://www.screencast.com/t/1jshtzrGk9x One is the current version, one is the all-CSS(3) version |
| 20:14 | schuster | just a minute |
| 20:15 | ok Yep | |
| 20:16 | jcamins | Wait, typo. |
| 20:16 | C4::AuthoritiesMarc | |
| 20:16 | Notice the plural. | |
| 20:16 | Does it work now? | |
| 20:17 | It's perplexing. I'm looking at the patch, and the line is already there. | |
| 20:17 | schuster | I have There is an if statement commented out then "require C4::AuthoritiesMarc;" - line 204 |
| 20:17 | Shane-S | jcamins: what version should I contribute to if I am going to try and make OPAC table-less? |
| 20:18 | jcamins | Shane-S: Master. |
| 20:18 | schuster | Then line 205 is "return SearchAuthorities(" |
| 20:18 | oleonard | Shane-S: And use git ;) |
| 20:18 | jcamins | schuster: that's exactly what it should look like. |
| 20:19 | schuster: you're probably going to run into a problem with C4/Biblio.pm as well. | |
| 20:19 | Open that up and search for "LinkBibHeadingsToAuthorities | |
| 20:19 | A few lines down should be the line "my %results;" | |
| 20:19 | After that line add "require C4::Heading;" and "require C4::AuthoritiesMarc;" | |
| 20:21 | schuster | That is already there. |
| 20:21 | jcamins | It is? |
| 20:21 | Huh. | |
| 20:21 | schuster: when you run "git status" does it tell you that you have "conflicts"? | |
| 20:22 | schuster | I am told I am 1 commit ahead of "origin/master' |
| 20:22 | no changes added | |
| 20:23 | jcamins | Okay, good. |
| 20:23 | In that case, carry on with your testing. :) | |
| 20:24 | schuster | But that's where I'm stuck. I open a record already in the system and when I click save I get the "Software error:" Undefined... |
| 20:25 | jcamins | schuster: *after* the change? |
| 20:25 | schuster | I didn't have to change anything. |
| 20:25 | jcamins | schuster: wait, what? |
| 20:25 | wahanui | wait, is it only in items? |
| 20:25 | jcamins | schuster: the require was already there? |
| 20:25 | schuster | yep |
| 20:26 | jcamins | I thought you meant the other ones were already there. |
| 20:26 | * chris_n | turns the temperature down on 3.6.x |
| 20:26 | jcamins | Okay, try changing line 205 to C4::AuthoritiesMarc::SearchAuthorities( |
| 20:26 | schuster | my error says "Undefined subroutine &C4::Heading::SearchAuthorities called at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Heading.pm line 205." |
| 20:27 | jcamins | I'm not sure why it would've worked on my system and not yours, but if we state explicitly which package we're using, that should fix it. |
| 20:27 | I think. | |
| 20:27 | * jcamins | would change the patch and upload the new one, except his computer is an hour and a half away. |
| 20:28 | rangi | chris_n++ |
| 20:31 | schuster | jcamins - 204 is require C4::AuthoritiesMarc;, 205 is return SearchAuthorities( |
| 20:31 | jcamins | schuster: change it to "return C4::AuthoritiesMarc::SearchAuthorities(" |
| 20:31 | wahanui | jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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| 20:32 | schuster | which line do I need to change? 204 like C4::AuthoritiesMarc::SearchAuthorities; ? |
| 20:32 | jcamins | Sorry. I'm slightly incoherent today. :/ |
| 20:32 | No, you're adding "C4::AuthoritiesMarc" to line 205. | |
| 20:33 | schuster | YEAH it worked!! taking notes... Moving forward with testing. |
| 20:34 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 20:44 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #41: UNSTABLE in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/41/ |
| 20:44 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 7545: Can't edit items" | |
| 20:44 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 7546 - cannot view subscription detail" | |
| 20:44 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 6875 de-nesting Auth.pm" | |
| 20:44 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 6875 de-nesting C4::VirtualShelves" | |
| 20:44 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 6875 de-nesting C4::Heading" | |
| 20:44 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 6875 de-nesting C4/Serials" | |
| 20:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7545 blocker, P1 - high, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , can't edit items |
| 20:44 | jenkins_koha | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 6875 cleaning opac-main.pl" |
| 20:44 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 6875 cleaning mainpage.pl" | |
| 20:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7546 blocker, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Cannot view subscription detail - bareword error |
| 20:44 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6875 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , de-nesting C4 packages | |
| 20:44 | jenkins_koha | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 6875 de-nesting C4::Koha.pm" |
| 20:44 | Starting build #42 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #40 5 h 27 mn ago) | |
| 20:47 | rangi | hmm ill look into that isbn fail now chris_n |
| 20:47 | chris_n | interesting |
| 20:47 | wahanui | i guess interesting is good |
| 20:47 | chris_n | it passed the suite locally |
| 20:48 | and passes now | |
| 20:49 | rangi | i think db issue |
| 20:49 | yep, will fix | |
| 20:49 | fixed | |
| 20:49 | !jenkins build koha_3.6.x now | |
| 20:49 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job koha_3.6.x build scheduled now |
| 20:54 | chris_n | cool |
| 20:56 | jcamins | Okay, time to leave. |
| 20:56 | I'll be back from Oradell, and probably the bus. | |
| 20:56 | rangi | cya jcamins |
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| 21:24 | oleonard | Oh man do I ever hate YUI. |
| 21:27 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 21:27 | Project Koha_3.6.x build #42: FIXED in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/42/ | |
| 21:27 | * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.04.000 22 Feb 2012 20:14:40 Z | |
| 21:27 | * chris.nighswonger: Fixing up release notes to reflect all reverts | |
| 21:27 | Starting build #43 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: FIXED) | |
| 21:34 | * oleonard | grumbles 'Stupid YUI, making me late to leave work...' |
| 21:35 | cait | heh |
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| 21:46 | schuster | @later tell jcamins - in step 16 of the test - If you don't match case in the heading it doesn't link. If you do it does link. |
| 21:46 | huginn | schuster: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:47 | schuster | @later tell jcamins - step 16 no that isn't right it linked them both to the heading but the local bib record one is correct the other is mixed case. Interesting. |
| 21:47 | huginn | schuster: The operation succeeded. |
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| 21:49 | schuster | well that's it for me online today... felt productive this afternoon! |
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| 21:53 | maximep | never found why would the \n of the translations be removed on my system. ENded up just hardcoding the fr-CA .tt :/ |
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| 21:57 | maximep | too tired to open a bug for the encoding of emails from sendbasket. anyway, 4 days weekend for me =) |
| 21:58 | mveron | maximep: Have a nice weekend! |
| 21:58 | Penggu | hi all. i get an error: (line 37, /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm) die "Version mismatch: $VERSION > $Koha::VERSION" if ($VERSION gt $Koha::VERSION); |
| 21:59 | any ideas? | |
| 21:59 | wahanui | any ideas are welcome :) |
| 22:01 | Penggu | the koha dist i'm using is liblime_koha-4.08.23 |
| 22:01 | maximep | we don't support liblime koha here |
| 22:02 | cait | Penggu: I am sorry, but we can't help you |
| 22:02 | Penggu | no probs |
| 22:02 | cait | if you are jsut getting started with koha |
| 22:03 | you might want to take a look at koha-community.org and download koha from download.koha-community.org or use the debian packages under debian.koha-community.org | |
| 22:03 | Penggu | i only saw liblime. didnt realise there was an actual different distribution. |
| 22:03 | cait | that's often the problem that people don't know about the difference |
| 22:04 | Penggu | nice. time to rm -rf |
| 22:04 | this has been a mess | |
| 22:04 | cait | where are you from Penggu? |
| 22:04 | Penggu | .au |
| 22:05 | rangi | Penggu: actual koha comes with debian packages too, another advantage :) |
| 22:05 | cait | rangi: I mentioned that :P |
| 22:05 | rangi | oh yeah you did |
| 22:05 | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
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| 22:09 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #43: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/43/ |
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| 22:09 | rangi | morning Space_Librarian |
| 22:10 | eythian | hi |
| 22:10 | wahanui | niihau, eythian |
| 22:10 | cait | heya eythian |
| 22:10 | rangi | Penggu: where in .au ... i was just in melbourne for VALA |
| 22:10 | eythian | g'day cait |
| 22:10 | Penggu | melbourne also, northern suburbs |
| 22:10 | rangi | sweet |
| 22:10 | melbourne is a nice place | |
| 22:10 | there are some koha libraries in melbourne already too | |
| 22:10 | Space_Librarian | morning rangi! |
| 22:11 | melbs is awesome. :) | |
| 22:11 | morning eythian and cait | |
| 22:12 | cait - I hear you guys have some cool analystics stuffs going on. You should tell me about it sometime. | |
| 22:12 | rangi | Penggu: http://www.ncps.edu.au/melbourne-campus.html these guys for one |
| 22:12 | cait | there are 2 different implementations for analytics |
| 22:12 | eythian | hello Space_Librarian |
| 22:13 | rangi | i told Space_Librarian to use your one cait |
| 22:13 | cait | oh |
| 22:13 | Space_Librarian | lol |
| 22:13 | cait | well then I can tell her - was going to say that the other is not compatible with our data model so have not tested it out :) |
| 22:13 | rangi | and http://library.philanthropy.or[…]ha/opac-search.pl ... in melbourne too .. but they are using a pretty old koha |
| 22:14 | Space_Librarian | cait sweet - the other model doesn't really work for what we have. |
| 22:15 | cait | ah |
| 22:16 | what we do is use 001 and links in $w of 773 | |
| 22:16 | it will create links between the records | |
| 22:16 | so you can navigate between them, find all analytics from the host record and such | |
| 22:16 | it works without 001 too | |
| 22:17 | there is anice cataloging enhancement colin wrote that would make the process even easier, but it's kinda stuck right now | |
| 22:17 | bug 6831 | |
| 22:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6831 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, colin.campbell, Failed QA , Enhanced Workflow for adding analytical records |
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| 22:20 | Space_Librarian | wicked. Will have a good look. Thanks cait! |
| 22:22 | cait | Space_Librarian: any time. I am sorry I have no example to show you |
| 22:22 | Space_Librarian: our libraries only have very few analytics, what we have more is sets with multiple parts | |
| 22:24 | Space_Librarian: https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin[…]?biblionumber=549 | |
| 22:24 | Space_Librarian | Also - riddle me this. How can I make ebooks searchable, and available, without being able to have holds placed on them, because they mess with our holds queue... I'm toying with item types, but do other libraries have a good working example? |
| 22:24 | cait | It's a handbook in 5 volumes, there is a set record with a link to show the corresponding volumes. he analytics work quite similar, different icons and the link is named differently :) |
| 22:25 | Space_Librarian | cait, we're wanting to link individual journal articles to it's volume/number |
| 22:25 | cait | Space_Librarian: if you add items for ebooks I think using an itemtype that is marked not for loan should work |
| 22:25 | Space_Librarian | so very similiar |
| 22:26 | cait | not for loan in the itemtype configuration |
| 22:27 | Space_Librarian | no, that's something different |
| 22:27 | cait | if you want to make really sure, you can also add it in circulation rules, at the bottom of the page - make the itemtype there non holdable |
| 22:27 | not for loan items can never be put on hold - what can't be checked out, can not be put on hold :) | |
| 22:27 | koha logic | |
| 22:27 | Space_Librarian | orly? I hadn't tried that. We just have it marked as not for loan atm, and that's not helpful |
| 22:28 | yeah. confuses patrons horribly | |
| 22:29 | cait | if you don't want to use the not for loan checkbox |
| 22:29 | Space_Librarian | and lovely way of cataloging - I like the linking (having now read the bug and looked at your catalogue) |
| 22:30 | cait | our records are from a union catalog - it's a bit different from how most koha libraries work, but lots of nice links :) |
| 22:30 | so we had to make them show | |
| 22:32 | ah, what I wanted to say is - in circulation rules, the last option on the page, you can mark an itemtype not for loan. additionally you can try to set a circulation rule with a loan period of 0 | |
| 22:32 | both should work together I think and prevent holds | |
| 22:37 | * jcamins_away | sits down with a pile of fudge and the cat. |
| 22:38 | cait | ooh |
| 22:38 | * cait | tries to lure myshkin to her |
| 22:38 | jcamins | Much needed. |
| 22:38 | Both the fudge and the cat. | |
| 22:39 | eythian | don't confuse them. |
| 22:39 | jcamins | eythian: no, that seems ill-advised. |
| 22:39 | Space_Librarian | mmm. fudge. |
| 22:40 | jcamins | Kahlua fudge. |
| 22:40 | :) | |
| 22:40 | cait | yum |
| 22:41 | Space_Librarian | you really do enjoy taunting us with good food, don't you? :) |
| 22:41 | cait | oh yes he does |
| 22:41 | and he does not ship to germany | |
| 22:41 | jcamins | :/ |
| 22:41 | I'm just sharing virtually. :) | |
| 22:42 | cait | at least that ;) |
| 22:42 | you have to come to scotland with an extra suitcase of fudge :) | |
| 22:43 | * jcamins | will do his best. |
| 22:44 | * Space_Librarian | is envious |
| 22:45 | jcamins | You should make fudge. |
| 22:45 | It's tasty. | |
| 22:45 | And easy. | |
| 22:46 | Space_Librarian | I should make fudge. Next week. |
| 22:46 | I will make fudge | |
| 22:46 | cait | and you should start shipping fudge to germany... |
| 22:46 | jcamins | You should do it tonight. |
| 22:46 | * cait | tries to use jedi powers |
| 22:47 | Space_Librarian | I have a 21km walk on Sunday... There will be no fudge making tonight |
| 22:47 | * Space_Librarian | is impervious to force use |
| 22:47 | jcamins | Space_Librarian: you should make the fudge and not eat it. |
| 22:47 | Then it'll be waiting for you Sunday after the walk. :) | |
| 22:47 | rangi | so what am i going to eat while i sit on the sideline watching you walk then!! |
| 22:47 | how inconsiderate! | |
| 22:47 | cait | lol |
| 22:47 | jcamins | Space_Librarian: plus, you need to make fudge for rangi! |
| 22:47 | rangi | hehe |
| 22:48 | cait | yes, making fudge for rangi tops any jedi powers |
| 22:48 | jcamins | That's a long walk. |
| 22:48 | Space_Librarian | it is a half marathon |
| 22:49 | And I will make fudge for rangi and eythian... when I make fudge | |
| 22:49 | rangi | yay! |
| 22:49 | eythian | excellent :D |
| 22:49 | Space_Librarian | Because catalyst boys are awesome. |
| 22:50 | lol | |
| 22:50 | And then when the rest of you lot visit us in Wellington, I'll make you fudge too. | |
| 22:50 | jcamins | :) |
| 22:50 | Space_Librarian | ;) |
| 22:50 | jcamins | And when you all visit NYC, I'll share fudge. |
| 22:52 | Space_Librarian | Sweet! |
| 22:53 | And brownies. Don't forget the brownies. | |
| 22:54 | cait | I was there! and got no fudge |
| 22:54 | *sniff* | |
| 22:55 | Space_Librarian | :( |
| 22:55 | But you may get Edinburgh Rock in Scorland though. mmmm... proper Edinburgh Rock... | |
| 22:55 | Scotland even | |
| 22:55 | ibeardslee | rangi, eythian: you need to let me know next time fudge is made ;) |
| 22:56 | eythian | ibeardslee: but you're on a foreign floor! |
| 22:56 | jcamins | cait: you were in NYC and didn't tell me?!? |
| 22:56 | cait | lol yes, every seond weekend jcamins |
| 22:57 | * jcamins | feels insulted that he was the last to find out. :P |
| 22:57 | grudgingly shares fudge with cait anyway. ;) | |
| 22:57 | Space_Librarian | ibeardslee yeah, you're in the shadowdy depths of the place. |
| 22:58 | shadowy* Man, I need coffee. | |
| 22:58 | ibeardslee | I am closer to the merengues at BOC |
| 22:59 | jcamins | Mmm. Merengue. |
| 23:00 | Space_Librarian | speaking of which... I need to gatecrash a BoC sometime. |
| 23:00 | cait | I will go |
| 23:00 | it's really too late to plunder the fridge or start making fudge | |
| 23:00 | Space_Librarian | cait: make icing... eat that |
| 23:00 | cait | icing at midnight is probably not healthy |
| 23:00 | jcamins | lol |
| 23:01 | Icing is always healthy! | |
| 23:01 | Space_Librarian | yes! Pure sugar - what could possibly be bad about that? |
| 23:01 | cait | lol |
| 23:01 | I am trying to eat no chocolate until easter | |
| 23:01 | jcamins | !! |
| 23:01 | cait | you will all witness the consequences... |
| 23:01 | (started today9 | |
| 23:01 | jcamins | Oh no! |
| 23:01 | cait | so i survived day 1 |
| 23:01 | almost | |
| 23:02 | jcamins | Out of forty? |
| 23:02 | cait | yeah I think |
| 23:02 | Space_Librarian | Yikes! That's a hard item to give up for lent. |
| 23:02 | cait | i don't smoke and i don't drink beer... |
| 23:02 | had to be the chocolate | |
| 23:02 | * jcamins | is glad he doesn't celebrate Lent. |
| 23:02 | jcamins | So's Myshkin. |
| 23:03 | cait | hehe |
| 23:03 | * Space_Librarian | too |
| 23:03 | Space_Librarian | lol |
| 23:03 | cait | it's more about finding out if i can |
| 23:04 | Space_Librarian | You can. Chocolate does taste weird after 40 days off it though (I speak from experience) |
| 23:05 | jcamins | Space_Librarian: how terrible! |
| 23:05 | cait | yeah |
| 23:05 | that was my thought too | |
| 23:05 | Space_Librarian | which is why I then gave up Lent for Lent. |
| 23:05 | * cait | is suddenly wondering if that was really a good idea |
| 23:05 | jcamins | lol |
| 23:05 | ibeardslee | Space_Librarian: that's the way to do it |
| 23:05 | Space_Librarian | I thought so. ;) |
| 23:06 | jcamins | One friend gave up Facebook for Lent. |
| 23:06 | She announced it on Facebook. | |
| 23:06 | I laughed. | |
| 23:06 | cait | I trust you all to make me eat chocolate again before i turn into another totally different person ;) |
| 23:06 | and now good night #koha! | |
| 23:06 | jcamins | Good night. |
| 23:06 | Space_Librarian | night! |
| 23:06 | jcamins | Vanilla icing just isn't as tasty as chocolate icing. |
| 23:06 | Space_Librarian | agreed |
| 23:08 | * cait | runs out |
| 23:08 | ibeardslee | my fav is that almond icing |
| 23:08 | jcamins | ibeardslee: nah, chocolate for me. |
| 23:08 | Space_Librarian | marzipan? |
| 23:08 | ibeardslee | Space_Librarian: yes |
| 23:08 | jcamins | ibeardslee: actually, I see no reason to make icing. Melted chocolate is good enough. :) |
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| 23:09 | Space_Librarian | And now I need to go visit that chocolatier and get coffee... bbiab |
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| 23:15 | Penggu | hmm. the .my.cnf conflicted with the defaults-extra part of the koha-create script |
| 23:22 | any reason why the home screen's stylesheets don't seem to be loading? | |
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