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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:08 | rangi | mveron++ |
| 00:08 | looks good | |
| 00:10 | mveron | rangi: Thanks. It took some time to figure it out but I learned a lot about koha :-) |
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| 00:20 | ky | Hi, I'm a newcomer to using Koha, to catalog my organisations various technical libraries. I have generated a batch of MARC records from various institutions using Z39.50 and imported these records into Koha using the record import tool. On completion of import, I am able to click on the bibilo records and view them correctly. However, reading through the documentation, on clicking on the "Cataloguing' link to addbooks.pl, Should be able to see the impor |
| 00:20 | ted records in the "reservoir"? | |
| 00:22 | rangi | not if you imported them fully into your catalogue |
| 00:22 | the reservoir is where they sit until they are added to the catalogue | |
| 00:23 | so if you just stage them (in the web interface) | |
| 00:23 | or do some z3950 searches in the web interface, they will end up in the reservoir | |
| 00:23 | ky | I see, thank you. |
| 00:23 | rangi | if you use bulkmarcimport.pl from the command line, or stage and then complete in the web, they end up in the catalogue proper |
| 00:23 | ky | From the catalog search interface, is there a way to search for all records? |
| 00:24 | rangi | nope |
| 00:24 | but you can from reports | |
| 00:24 | depending on your records (if they are english) | |
| 00:24 | searching on a | |
| 00:24 | as keyword | |
| 00:24 | will most likely get all | |
| 00:24 | (theres usually an a at least somewhere in a marc record :)) | |
| 00:24 | or | |
| 00:25 | ky | Nice, that works |
| 00:25 | Is there a simple way to delete all the records so I can start again? | |
| 00:25 | rangi | you have access to the commandline? |
| 00:25 | ky | yes |
| 00:26 | rangi | in misc/migration_tools/ |
| 00:26 | there is a script bulkmarcimport.pl | |
| 00:26 | running it with -d | |
| 00:26 | will delete all records | |
| 00:27 | ky | Great. |
| 00:28 | Thanks you for your help | |
| 00:28 | rangi | no worries |
| 00:28 | ky | That was really poor english. |
| 00:28 | Thank you for your help. | |
| 00:28 | rangi | i knew what you meant :) |
| 00:35 | http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/t[…]-modest-proposal/ :) | |
| 00:35 | ky | Do you have any experience with the OAI-PMH implementation? |
| 00:35 | rangi | nope |
| 00:35 | you have found the manual eh? | |
| 00:35 | not sure if its any help | |
| 00:36 | ky | yes and no |
| 00:36 | rangi | http://perldoc.koha-community.org/opac/oai.html |
| 00:36 | there is also this | |
| 00:36 | http://perldoc.koha-community.org/ <-- lots of other docs here | |
| 00:36 | beware its written by coders tho :) | |
| 00:37 | ky | Haha, much better for me, thanks |
| 00:37 | Coder by trade. | |
| 00:37 | rangi | its machine generated from the POD in the files, so should be nice and up to date (hopefully) |
| 00:38 | ky | Looks like a case of just giving it a go. Thankfully Koha is more polished than most open source software. |
| 00:38 | rangi | its been round a while, we are slowly polishing it :) |
| 00:50 | mveron | Bye everybody |
| 01:17 | ky | Thanks again for the help rangi. Have a nice day. |
| 01:17 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #79 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #50 4 mo. 15 j ago) |
| 01:17 | rangi | wth |
| 01:17 | is chris_n still working? | |
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| 01:53 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #79: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/79/ |
| 01:53 | chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.04.09.000 21 Feb 2012 01:08:17 Z | |
| 02:36 | * Space_Librarian | 's brain asplode |
| 02:36 | rangi | ? |
| 02:38 | Space_Librarian | inconsistent data mapping means we need to sort out how to catalogue the new articles... etc etc. |
| 02:38 | rangi | ahh |
| 02:38 | Space_Librarian | and keep them uniform |
| 02:39 | rangi | yup |
| 02:39 | Space_Librarian | and then retrospectively update the old articles. |
| 02:39 | rangi | *nod* |
| 02:39 | Space_Librarian | yep. |
| 02:39 | With panicked staff. | |
| 02:40 | * Space_Librarian | eats a Belgian chocolate |
| 02:40 | rangi | ah yeah that bit is the kicker |
| 02:40 | Space_Librarian | always. |
| 02:41 | ibeardslee | the chocolate will help |
| 02:42 | Space_Librarian | not yet it's not. |
| 02:42 | If I didn't have the half marathon on Sunday, there would be Caol Ila... | |
| 02:42 | ibeardslee | oh nice .. /me is just doing the 7k |
| 02:43 | rangi | im eating cakes and laughing at both of you |
| 02:43 | Space_Librarian | I'm walking the 21k - aiming for sub-3 hours |
| 02:43 | And rangi - I need somebody to do that for me. :) | |
| 02:43 | rangi | :) |
| 02:43 | eythian | yeah, I think I'm going to sleep in on Sunday. |
| 02:44 | Space_Librarian | after a long, fun night on Saturday, eythian? |
| 02:44 | eythian | No, I think Saturday is going to be quiet. |
| 02:45 | Space_Librarian | my saturday will probably involve cricket. If the weather is fine. |
| 02:45 | eythian | I will have training in the morning, after that I might watch movies perhaps. Read a book or something. Stuff like that. |
| 02:47 | Space_Librarian | ah. lazy weekends... |
| 02:48 | eythian | this weekend past was very busy, so I need something to balance it out. |
| 02:48 | Space_Librarian | *nods* |
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| 03:29 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag |
| 03:29 | bag | yo Amit_Gupta |
| 04:00 | Space_Librarian | peace out! :) |
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| 04:05 | ky | Hi, I was hoping to get some help enabling the OAI-PMH interface? |
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| 05:40 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait good morning |
| 05:40 | cait | hi Amit_Gupta |
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| 06:15 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait |
| 06:16 | cait | hi again Amit_Gupta |
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| 07:36 | alex_a | bonjour #koha |
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| 07:42 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:46 | mveron | Good morning everybody |
| 07:47 | * mveron | Would like to have some of the strng coffe at mbalmers office... |
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| 07:50 | cait | morning mveron |
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| 07:52 | mbalmer | morning. |
| 07:52 | mveron, you can alway come by ;) | |
| 07:52 | (but I am not there today) | |
| 07:53 | mveron | morning cait. |
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| 07:57 | mveron | cait: Bug 7563 - Silent print slips using Firefox PlugIn jsPrintSetup and new staff client preference |
| 07:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7563 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Silent print slips using Firefox PlugIn jsPrintSetup and new staff client preference |
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| 08:08 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
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| 08:10 | asaurat | hi |
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| 08:14 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
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| 08:17 | kf | hi #koha |
| 08:19 | asaurat | hi kf! |
| 08:20 | kf | hi asaurat .) |
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| 09:13 | mveron | kf: I'm not sure you saw the message, I filed a bug (enhancement) with my solution for silent printing slips, Bug 7563 |
| 09:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7563 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Silent print slips using Firefox PlugIn jsPrintSetup and new staff client preference |
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| 11:36 | slef | hi all |
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| 11:38 | slef | @query debian SRW |
| 11:38 | huginn | slef: No results for "debian SRW." |
| 11:39 | slef | anyone know why the debian packages don't have publicserver SRW enabled? |
| 11:39 | port contention or another reason? | |
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| 12:47 | janPasi | hmm... "It works!" |
| 12:47 | obviously it doesn't ;D | |
| 12:47 | there's something I need to do with apache config, but what? | |
| 12:48 | I installed koha on Debian Squeeze following these instructions: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze | |
| 12:49 | Here's the contents of my koha-sites.conf: | |
| 12:50 | DOMAIN="xxx.xxx.xxx" | |
| 12:50 | INTRAPORT="80" | |
| 12:50 | INTRAPREFIX="" | |
| 12:50 | INTRASUFFIX="-intra" | |
| 12:51 | DOMAIN... | |
| 12:51 | in the instructions it starts with a dot | |
| 12:51 | I don't have that dot there | |
| 12:51 | how is this meant to work? | |
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| 12:56 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6193 follow-up of the follow-up = reindentation only <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]409262c68a5c2f9ae> / Bug 6193 - Follow up: use SetEnv and remove memcached from koha-conf.xml <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ba01daf01ba56674e> |
| 12:57 | chris_n | @later tell rangi reverted 7238 and will revert 6299 as well |
| 12:57 | huginn | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:02 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #38 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 13:02 | Starting build #80 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #50 4 mo. 15 j ago) | |
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| 13:09 | kf | chris_n: saw my messages? |
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| 13:27 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 13:32 | paul_p | 'morning chris_n & oleonard |
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| 13:40 | slef | janPasi: sounds like you're getting the default site when you want the koha site. A crude fix is "a2dissite default" |
| 13:41 | janPasi: koha doesn't disable the default site by default so as not to mess up people's existing websites when they want koha on a new namevirtualhost | |
| 13:42 | janPasi | i got it fixed already :) |
| 13:43 | but thanks anyway slef | |
| 13:46 | * paul_p | switches once again to "QAing" mode... (ordered by date changed desc) |
| 13:47 | slef | janPasi: :-/ |
| 13:48 | janPasi | slef: ? |
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| 13:51 | slef | janPasi: could have mentioned you'd fixed it. |
| 13:56 | janPasi | well i just got it working |
| 13:57 | by playing with koha-sites.conf | |
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| 13:59 | janPasi | the missing dot from the beginning of the DOMAIN variable was indeed the problem |
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| 14:11 | chris_n | kf: I did, thanks |
| 14:11 | paul_p: 7283 was already reverted, thanks | |
| 14:17 | oleonard | I see, my fix for Bug 3215 is conflicting with the commit which created a new include for the OPAC detail pages... |
| 14:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , It would be nice if "Add to Cart" changed to "Remove from Cart" |
| 14:17 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #80: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 15 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/80/ |
| 14:17 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 7238 - make packages deal with SIP config" | |
| 14:17 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 7238 : Shifting SIPconfig.xml to the etc dir and the scripts to misc/bin" | |
| 14:17 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 7238 Followup - fix sip_run to require path to SIPconfig.xml" | |
| 14:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7238 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , move SIPconfig.xml, sip_run and sip_shutdown outside from C4 (NOT FOR 3.6) |
| 14:18 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #38: SUCCESS in 1 h 15 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/38/ |
| 14:18 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 7238 - make packages deal with SIP config" | |
| 14:18 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 7238 : Shifting SIPconfig.xml to the etc dir and the scripts to misc/bin" | |
| 14:18 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 7238 Followup - fix sip_run to require path to SIPconfig.xml" | |
| 14:18 | Starting build #637 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 14:21 | chris_n | its been a rather reverting morning thus far |
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| 14:32 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #39 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 14:32 | kf | but jenkins is still happy :) |
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| 14:52 | oleonard | Is Bug 4048 still a worthwhile goal, or are some people hoping that JS will someday be processed by the translator? |
| 14:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , CSS and JS libs must be outside of translated paths |
| 14:53 | kf | oleonard: good question |
| 14:54 | oleonard | It seems like we might be talking about two categories: CSS and JS which don't include strings and some JS which does |
| 14:55 | kf | I think having libraries like yui/jquery in a central place makes sense |
| 14:55 | we don't want to change those | |
| 14:55 | koha's own javascript scripts - I am not sure | |
| 14:55 | I don't see translation for those being done | |
| 14:56 | and we have implemented translation in the templates in a lot of places now | |
| 14:56 | which is nice, because you have all things in one place | |
| 14:56 | and it's even easier to do with tt | |
| 14:56 | oh, and I think css could be central too | |
| 15:00 | * oleonard | is going to take it to the devel list |
| 15:01 | kf | probably a good idea |
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| 15:14 | hdl | js libraries should definitely not be in the translation path. |
| 15:15 | even though some strings could require translation. But then, we could have some js/strings or ... | |
| 15:18 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 15:20 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
| 15:20 | wizzyrea | how goes it |
| 15:23 | oleonard | Just looking for trouble, you know. |
| 15:26 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #637: SUCCESS in 1 h 8 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/637/ |
| 15:26 | * tomascohen: Bug 6193 - Follow up: use SetEnv and remove memcached from koha-conf.xml | |
| 15:26 | * paul.poulain: Bug 6193 follow-up of the follow-up = reindentation only | |
| 15:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6193 enhancement, P3, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Use memcached cache koha-conf.xml configuration variables |
| 15:32 | jcamins | oleonard: you're looking for trouble? |
| 15:32 | I have good news! | |
| 15:32 | Bug 7284 can be very troublesome! | |
| 15:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 15:32 | jcamins | :D |
| 15:32 | oleonard | I'll say :P |
| 15:34 | * chris_n | has a boatload of trouble to share :) |
| 15:35 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #39: SUCCESS in 1 h 3 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/39/ |
| 15:35 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Updating Version Number to 3.06.03.002" | |
| 15:35 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Updating Version Number to 3.06.03.001" | |
| 15:35 | * chris.nighswonger: Reverting Enh 6299 | |
| 15:35 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 6299 - add es-ES" | |
| 15:35 | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 6299 Add relator codes for fr-FR" | |
| 15:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, P3, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms |
| 15:35 | jenkins_koha | * chris.nighswonger: Revert "Bug 6299 - Provide a list of authorized values for Relator terms" |
| 15:35 | * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.06.03.001 | |
| 15:35 | * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.04.000 21 Feb 2012 14:26:00 Z | |
| 15:35 | * chris.nighswonger: Fixing release notes to reflect reverted status of several Enh | |
| 15:36 | * jcamins | looks at his watch, looks at his phone, looks at the clock, and mutters imprecations against real estate lawyers. |
| 15:36 | chris_n | this is cool: http://tinyurl.com/18r |
| 15:37 | jcamins | chris_n: what? |
| 15:38 | chris_n: how is "about:blank" not valid? (also, why did you provide a tinyurl to about:blank? | |
| 15:38 | chris_n | stupid tinyurl |
| 15:39 | om | |
| 15:39 | http://www.youtube.com/watch_p[…]aCIHlTg&vq=medium | |
| 15:39 | that is, if you enjoy marching bands | |
| 15:40 | * oleonard | will brb |
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| 15:54 | wizzyrea | oleonard, was it you that added opacusercss? |
| 15:54 | and intranetusercss | |
| 15:55 | oleonard | I don't know who added opacusercss. kf added intranetusercss |
| 15:56 | wizzyrea | AHA |
| 15:56 | * wizzyrea | cuddles up to kf |
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| 15:56 | druthb | g'mornin! |
| 15:56 | oleonard | You'll have to wait for her to come back wizzyrea ;) |
| 15:56 | * wizzyrea | cuddles up to the invisible presence of kf |
| 15:57 | * druthb | joins wizzyrea and kf in the cuddle-pile. |
| 15:57 | oleonard | Funny, people tell me I'm creepy when I say that kind of thing :P |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | no, but seriously, I just wanted to investigate the possibility of "noticecss" and "slipcss" as preferences |
| 15:58 | but it can wait. | |
| 15:58 | druthb | chris_n: about? |
| 15:59 | @seen chris_n | |
| 15:59 | huginn | druthb: chris_n was last seen in #koha 19 minutes and 25 seconds ago: <chris_n> that is, if you enjoy marching bands |
| 15:59 | oleonard | Bug 3381 added intranetusercss if you want to examine the patch wizzyrea |
| 15:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3381 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Add an IntranetUserCSS system preference |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | thanks oleonard |
| 16:00 | very much :) | |
| 16:01 | oleonard | Sorry jcamins, 7284 doesn't apply anymore :( |
| 16:01 | jcamins | oleonard: again!?! |
| 16:01 | oleonard: five minutes. | |
| 16:01 | paul_p: I can't keep up with you! | |
| 16:01 | oleonard: maybe ten, since the VM has to start up. | |
| 16:02 | paul_p | jcamins sorry ? |
| 16:02 | jcamins | paul_p: you keep on pushing things to master. :) |
| 16:02 | paul_p | lol :D |
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| 16:03 | jcamins | oleonard: maybe fifteen minutes. There appears to be a firewall blocking my git fetch. :( |
| 16:04 | * oleonard | curses git-blocking firewalls |
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| 16:05 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:08 | jcamins | oleonard: 8 minutes. |
| 16:10 | oleonard: all ready for your sign-off. :) | |
| 16:11 | druthb | hm. |
| 16:12 | jcamins | bug 7535 |
| 16:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7535 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , OPAC displays ampersands incorrectly. |
| 16:12 | druthb | @later tell chris_n the patch for Bug 7535 should apply cleanly to 3.6.x, and your putting it there for 3.6.4 would be super-nifty-wonderful, and close many issues for me. Please and thank you! |
| 16:12 | huginn | druthb: The operation succeeded. |
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| 16:20 | oleonard | jcamins: After selecting an authority from the cataloging plugin I'm getting an error: "Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/authorities/blinddetail-biblio-search.pl line 80." |
| 16:21 | jcamins | oleonard: yikes! That's bad. |
| 16:21 | I shall have to investigate that. | |
| 16:21 | Let me call my paralegal, then I shall do that. | |
| 16:21 | * oleonard | is leaving at 12 so I may have to try again tomorrow |
| 16:24 | jcamins | oleonard: aww. :( |
| 16:27 | kf | hi jcamins :) |
| 16:27 | jcamins | Hello. |
| 16:28 | slef | anyone know why the debian packages don't have publicserver SRW enabled? port collision problem or something else? |
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| 16:29 | jcamins | slef: I think just that the default Koha configuration didn't have it. |
| 16:31 | slef | jcamins: they have it, but not enabled. The configs created by koha-common don't even have it. :-/ |
| 16:31 | jcamins | slef: oh, report a bug. |
| 16:31 | slef: it probably wasn't there yet when eythian last updated koha-conf.xml. | |
| 16:31 | slef | jcamins: I think I'll see if eythian arrives before I leave. |
| 16:32 | jcamins: nah, been there since 3.0 I think. | |
| 16:32 | jcamins | slef: oh, in that case, I don't know. |
| 16:32 | slef | pretty sure biblios.net used it |
| 16:32 | me either :) aren't we dumb? | |
| 16:32 | jcamins | slef: biblios.net used /srv/ |
| 16:32 | slef | svc |
| 16:32 | jcamins | That's what I meant. |
| 16:32 | slef | but that doesn't search |
| 16:32 | jcamins | I know /srv/ didn't look quite right. |
| 16:32 | slef | SRW searched, I thought? |
| 16:33 | jcamins | It looks a bit to Sun OS-y. |
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| 16:33 | jcamins | slef: yeah, SRW is for searching. |
| 16:33 | slef | SunOS: someone stole the E key when we ran mkdir. |
| 16:33 | jcamins | lol |
| 16:34 | slef | Argh! Need meds! must finish this task and then pop out! |
| 16:35 | hdl | slef: i think in the oldtimes, socket were chosen for sake of security, and speed |
| 16:35 | this is all. | |
| 16:35 | kf | slef: perhaps biblios used z39.50? |
| 16:36 | slef | kf: never used it enough to be sure... but anyway, publicserver SRW seems like a nice option to have |
| 16:36 | jcamins | slef: agreed. |
| 16:36 | kf | srw means writing? |
| 16:37 | jcamins | slef: https://github.com/ccatalfo/biblios_old <-- if you want to check what biblios.net used. |
| 16:37 | kf | I know my coworker is using sru for some things, that seems to work quite nicely when activated |
| 16:37 | oh nice | |
| 16:44 | slef | jcamins: nice. |
| 16:44 | kf: I may be confusing SRU and SRW | |
| 16:44 | wahanui: SRU? | |
| 16:44 | wahanui | slef: wish i knew |
| 16:44 | kf | slef: or it's me :) |
| 16:44 | slef | wahanui: SRW? |
| 16:44 | wahanui | slef: i haven't a clue |
| 16:45 | slef | SRW is Search/Retrieve Web Service |
| 16:45 | doesn't sound like writing | |
| 16:45 | jcamins | SRU is Search/Retrieval via URL |
| 16:45 | SRU? | |
| 16:45 | wahanui | i heard SRU was Search/Retrieval via URL |
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| 16:47 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #638 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:47 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7552 - Remove wrong line endings in NORMARC record.abs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]116d77be710dd88b0> / Bug 7454 Initialize return arrays in ILS/Transaction/RenewAll <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2f64c9e3fed602c8f> / Bug 5373 - allow 'cardnumber' to appear on the patron import field list <http://git.koha |
| 16:48 | slef | jcamins: what's the difference between SRW and SRU? |
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| 16:50 | jcamins | slef: actually, I'm not entirely sure. |
| 16:50 | slef: it's the API used. | |
| 16:52 | slef: apparently. | |
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| 17:00 | slef | jcamins: SRW is SOAP |
| 17:00 | wahanui: SRW is also SOAP | |
| 17:00 | wahanui | okay, slef. |
| 17:00 | slef | wahanui: SRU is also http://www.loc.gov/standards/sru/ |
| 17:00 | wahanui | okay, slef. |
| 17:00 | * wizzyrea | gets a rare case of acronym overload |
| 17:00 | slef | oh don't ask me what SOAP is |
| 17:01 | wahanui: what is SOAP? | |
| 17:01 | wahanui | i don't know, slef |
| 17:01 | slef | Service Orientated Application Protocol at a guess |
| 17:01 | jcamins | lol |
| 17:01 | wizzyrea | I always thought it was the byproduct of saponified oil or fat |
| 17:02 | or what you get when hot fat meets lye | |
| 17:03 | slef | SOAP is Simple Object Access Protocol |
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| 17:03 | kf | bye all :) |
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| 17:04 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I can't replicate oleonard's problem, so you can safely carry on testing 7284. :) |
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| 17:05 | jcamins | Wait... I was missing a few patches from master. |
| 17:05 | * jcamins | tries again. |
| 17:05 | slef | wizzyrea: oooh you'll like this: |
| 17:05 | wahanui: SRU is also SRU Record Update | |
| 17:05 | wahanui | okay, slef. |
| 17:05 | jcamins | slef: seriously? |
| 17:05 | wizzyrea | ... |
| 17:06 | slef | jcamins: http://www.loc.gov/standards/sru/record-update/ |
| 17:06 | * wizzyrea | 's head explodes |
| 17:06 | jcamins | Nope, still can't replicate. |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | recursive acronym is recursive |
| 17:06 | jcamins | wizzyrea: carry on with your bug 7284 testing. :) |
| 17:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 17:06 | slef | jcamins: have you seen a doctor? |
| 17:06 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 17:07 | jcamins | slef: lol |
| 17:07 | * wizzyrea | imagines jcamins: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi[…]scientist.svg.png |
| 17:09 | jcamins | wizzyrea: you finally got 700k authority records indexed... don't you want to test bug 7284 quickly before something changes and you have to reindex? :) |
| 17:09 | wizzyrea | yes! |
| 17:09 | butialsowanttofinishthisthingi'mworkingon | |
| 17:10 | slef | wizzyrea: I was imaginging something a bit more, err, organic, but maybe I'm still scarred from thoughtlessly putting threeway into a web search. |
| 17:10 | jcamins | 7284 is more fun. |
| 17:10 | 7284? | |
| 17:10 | wahanui | 7284 is more fun. |
| 17:10 | jcamins | :) |
| 17:10 | wizzyrea | hehe slef. |
| 17:11 | slef | @quote 186 |
| 17:11 | huginn | slef: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 17:11 | slef | @quote get 186 |
| 17:11 | huginn | slef: Quote #186: "trea: git-fu --tiger style /whooosh" (added by wizzyrea at 04:29 PM, February 02, 2012) |
| 17:11 | wizzyrea | lolol |
| 17:11 | i love that one. | |
| 17:11 | slef | @quote get 185 |
| 17:11 | huginn | slef: Quote #185: "<wizzyrea> @quote get 23" (added by slef at 06:59 PM, January 30, 2012) |
| 17:11 | slef | @quote get 23 |
| 17:11 | huginn | slef: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg huginn register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) |
| 17:12 | slef | @quote get 184 |
| 17:12 | huginn | slef: Quote #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:58 PM, January 30, 2012) |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | there it is |
| 17:12 | slef | ok, not many added since I last saw |
| 17:13 | wizzyrea | best quotes? |
| 17:13 | wahanui | 184, 186, 123, and anything that has to do with bacon. |
| 17:13 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 17:13 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #80: "<robin> heh thanks, that makes me seem a lot more edumacated :)" (added by gmcharlt at 01:54 AM, June 24, 2010) |
| 17:14 | jcamins | @quote search bacon |
| 17:14 | huginn | jcamins: 2 found: #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon..." and #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!" |
| 17:14 | jcamins | @quote get 17 |
| 17:14 | huginn | jcamins: Quote #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!" (added by jdavidb at 09:40 PM, July 17, 2009) |
| 17:14 | jcamins | @quote get 16 |
| 17:14 | huginn | jcamins: Quote #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon is to erm, use the belly of the hog (I think)" (added by chris at 09:37 PM, July 17, 2009) |
| 17:14 | wizzyrea | @quote search batman |
| 17:14 | huginn | wizzyrea: 2 found: #17: "<wizzyrea> holy flaming bacon batman!" and #38: "<owen> Holy Bugzilla activity explosion, Batman!" |
| 17:14 | wizzyrea | maybe that should read "and anything that has to do with batman" |
| 17:15 | @quote search MARC | |
| 17:15 | huginn | wizzyrea: 5 found: #116: "slef: It's probably some corrupt mix of double-...", #136: "<sekjal> MARC. Must. Die!", #137: "sekjal: the data's in there... it's just MARC", #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21,...", and #4: "< kf> I often get asked: You have to study to..." |
| 17:15 | wizzyrea | @quote get 4 |
| 17:15 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #4: "< kf> I often get asked: You have to study to be a librarian? perhaps MARC was invented to answer it ;)" (added by chris at 12:50 PM, June 12, 2009) |
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| 17:18 | jcamins | @quote get 1 |
| 17:18 | huginn | jcamins: Quote #1: "<pianohacker> resolve, rather, I doubt it needs lotion" (added by gmcharlt at 03:05 AM, May 31, 2009) |
| 17:18 | slef | @quote get 0 |
| 17:18 | huginn | slef: Error: There is no Quote with id #0 in my database for #koha. |
| 17:18 | slef | @quote get -1 |
| 17:18 | huginn | slef: Error: There is no Quote with id #-1 in my database for #koha. |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | i'm taking a journey through the quote database with huginn in private, so many funny things |
| 17:22 | jcamins | :) |
| 17:22 | You should share some of the highlights with the rest of us. | |
| 17:23 | wizzyrea | i will :) |
| 17:24 | @quote get 177 | |
| 17:24 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #177: "oleonard: If Buck Rogers used IRC he'd put bip on Twiki and tell Twiki to never sleep." (added by wizzyrea at 04:43 PM, January 10, 2012) |
| 17:24 | wizzyrea | @quote get 108 |
| 17:24 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #108: "<owen> As Pee-wee said, Everyone I know has a big 'but'" (added by druthb at 03:20 PM, November 30, 2010) |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea | @quote get 113 |
| 17:25 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #113: "<jcamins> I merely opened my hands and allowed a butterfly to flutter its wings once, thus ensuring that the record I was interested in would automatically show up on the terminal when I was walking by." (added by druthb at 02:18 PM, December 21, 2010) |
| 17:26 | eternalsword | inside a template file, how do I create a new variable from a C4::Context->config value? I have a value for my custom login system and I would like to change "To make changes to your record please contact the library." to a link to the management system where the patron can change details. |
| 17:26 | wizzyrea | the 1st question |
| 17:26 | ? | |
| 17:26 | the first question? | |
| 17:26 | wahanui | i heard the first question was "What are you trying to do?" |
| 17:27 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #638: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/638/ |
| 17:27 | * ruth: Bug 7535: ampersands not showing properly in non-XSLT OPAC | |
| 17:27 | * oleonard: Bug 7496 - Personally identifying information sent in opac user TITLE | |
| 17:27 | * dev_patches: Bug 7513 Marc Import Hangs | |
| 17:27 | * robin: Bug 5373 - allow 'cardnumber' to appear on the patron import field list | |
| 17:27 | * colin.campbell: Bug 7454 Initialize return arrays in ILS/Transaction/RenewAll | |
| 17:27 | wizzyrea | i mean, specifically |
| 17:27 | jenkins_koha | * magnus: Bug 7552 - Remove wrong line endings in NORMARC record.abs |
| 17:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7535 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , OPAC displays ampersands incorrectly. |
| 17:27 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7496 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Personally identifying information sent in opac user TITLE | |
| 17:27 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7513 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , MARC Import Hangs | |
| 17:27 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5373 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , fields listed on patron import do not match the csv file | |
| 17:27 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7454 major, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Sip renewal all response returns incorrect info | |
| 17:27 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7552 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Remove wrong line endings in NORMARC record.abs | |
| 17:27 | wizzyrea | botfight! |
| 17:27 | eternalsword | wizzyrea: was that directed at me? |
| 17:27 | wizzyrea | yes, after a fashion |
| 17:28 | why do you need a config value? | |
| 17:28 | what is the end result you are trying to achieve? | |
| 17:29 | Are you trying to simply change what is displayed on a certain screen? | |
| 17:30 | eternalsword | I have a church database management system that I am integrating, and want the code to be portable so others can use it. Yes, I would like to change what is displayed when OPACPatronDetails is false and my config value is true. |
| 17:30 | wizzyrea | aha, gotya |
| 17:30 | eternalsword | I know how to get the value in the pl file, but not sure how to pass to the template. |
| 17:31 | jcamins | @quote search template |
| 17:31 | huginn | jcamins: No matching quotes were found. |
| 17:31 | jcamins | @quote search tt |
| 17:31 | huginn | jcamins: 22 found: #101: "<darling> I still need to catch up with current...", #113: "<jcamins> I merely opened my hands and allowed...", #119: "<wasabi> wow, and a pig!!! -> http://www.blaine...", #122: "<member:oleonard>Everyone is doin' the hot new...", #127: "Oracle now has little choice but to abandon its...", #12: "<owen> Every time you check in a book a little...", #143: "rhcl: Blame the C coders; if it (3 more messages) |
| 17:31 | wizzyrea | useful quotes? |
| 17:31 | jcamins | @quote search t::t |
| 17:31 | huginn | jcamins: No matching quotes were found. |
| 17:31 | jcamins | tt? |
| 17:31 | wahanui | tt is Template::Toolkit |
| 17:31 | wizzyrea | @quote get 135 |
| 17:31 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} - without the typo" (added by cait at 07:30 PM, May 20, 2011) |
| 17:31 | jcamins | eternalsword: ^^ that's the short answer. |
| 17:32 | The long answer is, I don't think that's what you want to do. | |
| 17:32 | eternalsword | jcamins, why not? |
| 17:32 | jcamins | eternalsword: because you're talking about displaying something out of koha-conf.xml. |
| 17:32 | That's exceedingly *un*portable. | |
| 17:33 | It can't be translated, it requires a sysadmin to adjust, and doesn't match how anything else is done. | |
| 17:33 | Probably what you want is a syspref. | |
| 17:33 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 17:34 | jcamins: | |
| 17:34 | @quote get 157 | |
| 17:34 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #157: "wizzyrea: bbiaf -> I know that means be back in a few but my brain told me that meant be back in a fire oleonard: similar to the common ctaof, for Can't talk, am on fire" (added by wizzyrea at 04:38 PM, September 23, 2011) |
| 17:34 | eternalsword | but it's not necessary if this particular login system is not used, which must be done in koha-conf.xml like ldapserver. |
| 17:34 | wizzyrea | right, but you can make a "local use" syspref |
| 17:36 | eternalsword | what's the point? it's either enabled in koha-conf.xml or it's not. It's true or false. Or are you recommending putting the value of the text in the syspref? |
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| 17:37 | wizzyrea | eh, tmtowtdi |
| 17:37 | cait | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | that's probably not how we would do it ;) |
| 17:37 | hey cait | |
| 17:42 | nengard | is there a way in git to delete all branches that start with a string? |
| 17:42 | i need to do some branch clean up :) | |
| 17:42 | and don't want to delete 1 by 1 | |
| 17:43 | jcamins | nengard: if you really want, you could use xargs. |
| 17:43 | nengard | and how would i do that? :) |
| 17:44 | jcamins | nengard: it'd be something like git branch | sed -e 's/ //g' | grep -e '^string' | xargs branch -D \{} \; |
| 17:44 | * jcamins | does not recommend doing that, but you *could*. |
| 17:44 | jcamins | And note that I tested exactly none of that. |
| 17:44 | nengard | HA! |
| 17:44 | okay | |
| 17:45 | eternalsword | wizzyrea, I'm surprised ldap isn't configurable through the admin area via sysprefs to be honest, but I ported an existing method over since I don't know perl well at all, so I'll have to live with that. |
| 17:46 | wizzyrea | actually I always wondered about that too. It would be nice if that were possible. |
| 17:46 | jcamins | eternalsword: yeah, that's definitely a bug from my point of view. |
| 17:46 | wizzyrea | a project for you :) |
| 17:46 | (if you wanted it) | |
| 17:46 | eternalsword | maybe I will. got to get this working first :P |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea | that would be super-duper cool :) |
| 17:48 | eternalsword | by the way, our system uses oauth, so mine can be used as an example for other systems as well. |
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| 18:39 | * magnuse | waves |
| 18:39 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
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| 18:39 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
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| 18:39 | magnuse | hiya melia |
| 18:40 | melia | hi! |
| 18:40 | cait | hi melia :) |
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| 18:47 | Shane-S | I just setup Koha on Thursday...and I am logged in to the admin section via the koha-conf.xml file credentials. How do I add a users myself? |
| 18:47 | jcamins | Shane-S: use the Patrons module. |
| 18:48 | maximep | any idea why the search by control number (opac-search.pl?q=Control-number:37910925) wouldn't work ? |
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| 18:54 | Shane-S | can I change a languages file to modify Surname to say Lastname? |
| 18:55 | jcamins | Shane-S: yes you can. I don't remember how to create a new translation, but it's pretty straightforward. |
| 18:56 | Shane-S | okay i'll note that down to change after I learn how to use Koha :D |
| 18:57 | cait | maximep: which version? |
| 18:57 | wahanui | i think which version is nekls on right now? |
| 18:57 | cait | wahanui: forget version |
| 18:57 | wahanui | cait, I didn't have anything matching version |
| 18:58 | jcamins | wahanui forget which version |
| 18:58 | wahanui | jcamins: I forgot which version |
| 18:58 | cait | maximep: there was a bug a while ago |
| 18:59 | maximep | 3.6.0 |
| 18:59 | * maximep | looks on bugzilla |
| 19:01 | maximep | I wish I had any idea of what to look at in the code :/ |
| 19:01 | cait | ah |
| 19:01 | there was a bug | |
| 19:01 | in 3.6.0 | |
| 19:01 | I think | |
| 19:02 | let me find it for you - I filed it | |
| 19:02 | maximep: bug 6786 | |
| 19:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6786 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, False detection of index names in Search; make index names case insensitive |
| 19:03 | maximep | oh wow thanks, never would have found that |
| 19:03 | cait | you are welcome |
| 19:05 | maximep: I know for sure it's fixed in 3.6.3 | |
| 19:06 | maximep | it's like the 8th bug that I have to fix that's already fixed in > 3.6.0 -_- |
| 19:06 | cait | there will be more I fear |
| 19:06 | wizzyrea | tons. |
| 19:06 | cait | take a look at the release notes.. |
| 19:06 | jcamins | maximep: why don't you upgrade to 3.6.3? |
| 19:06 | We've fixed a lot in the last four months. | |
| 19:06 | cait | we just went to 3.6.3 ... but 3.6.4 makes me think aobut updating again |
| 19:07 | Shane-S | anyone have a guide for adding a new admin for Koha 3.6 Google keeps giving me 2.x stuff were you tick a checkbox for superadmin |
| 19:07 | wizzyrea | perhaps you are not being persuasive enough |
| 19:07 | jcamins | documentation? |
| 19:07 | wahanui | rumour has it documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 19:07 | wizzyrea | Shane-S: it's under patron -> detail -> more -> permissions |
| 19:07 | jcamins | Shane-S: ^^ |
| 19:07 | maximep | well it's not my job |
| 19:07 | wizzyrea | maximep: :) |
| 19:07 | Shane-S | wizzyrea: thanks, have the patron, will check there |
| 19:08 | wizzyrea | the customer may be always right, but they do not always know what they need |
| 19:09 | maximep | we still have a ton of modifications to the code, so it requires time to upgrade everything |
| 19:09 | wizzyrea | ah yea |
| 19:10 | Shane-S | wizzyrea: ty very much, now I can follow http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ation/newbieguide ;) |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | Shane-S: you're very welcome |
| 19:11 | Shane-S | last question for a bit I hope...should I remove the usernames and passwords from /etc/koha/sites/mysite/koha-conf.xml? |
| 19:11 | wizzyrea | no |
| 19:11 | jcamins | Shane-S: no! |
| 19:11 | wizzyrea | it won't work without them |
| 19:11 | jcamins | Shane-S: without those usernames, it won't work at all! |
| 19:11 | cait | heh |
| 19:11 | what they said | |
| 19:12 | :) | |
| 19:12 | Shane-S | okay, so just don't use them ever again :P |
| 19:12 | jcamins | Shane-S: right. |
| 19:12 | cait | you will need when updating |
| 19:12 | wizzyrea | in case you are worried, that file is nowhere near accessible to the outside world. |
| 19:12 | jcamins | Shane-S: except for when updating. |
| 19:12 | * wizzyrea | ponders that claim... sticks with it for now. |
| 19:13 | Shane-S | okay, I just wanted to check :D |
| 19:13 | wizzyrea | yea, some web apps do have you do that |
| 19:13 | but not this one ;) | |
| 19:14 | Shane-S | Well I don't even think it will be web-accessible (by common folk anyway) and its for me try before I think about replacing Follet for a little school library |
| 19:14 | wizzyrea | oh koha is a great replacement for follett |
| 19:14 | Shane-S | we maybe have 3,000 books if that many even |
| 19:15 | * wizzyrea | has at least 12 libraries that came from follett |
| 19:15 | Shane-S | using somethink called circ/cat that pre-dates me (in computer education that is) |
| 19:15 | I was maybe 14 when OS9 was release | |
| 19:16 | damn...I was 17 :P | |
| 19:17 | oh...I have a question can Amazon be used as a Z39.50 resource to pull books and covers? | |
| 19:18 | jcamins | Shane-S: not Z39.50. |
| 19:18 | Shane-S: you can get cover images off of Amazon, though. | |
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| 19:41 | Space_Librarian | o/ |
| 19:42 | * Space_Librarian | attempts to lessen the appearance of a drowned rat |
| 19:43 | cait | rain? :( |
| 19:43 | ibeardslee | a bit of dampness |
| 19:46 | Space_Librarian | slight drizzle |
| 19:47 | jcamins | Okay, this is kind of cool... |
| 19:47 | The National Library of Estonia has a book scanning program. | |
| 19:47 | You can request the book, and they scan it for you and send you the PDF. | |
| 19:48 | nengard | is there documentation of how the new cover image upload tool works? I just tried to upload an image and it says it worked but i don't see the image on the bib record |
| 19:48 | jcamins | Oh, wait, this is funded by the EU. |
| 19:48 | It's a pan-EU program. | |
| 19:48 | Cool! | |
| 19:49 | nengard: there is extensive documentation in the commit messages. | |
| 19:49 | nengard | thanks |
| 19:50 | jcamins | EU++ |
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| 20:03 | nengard | hmmm cover images i upload show in the opac but not the staff client even though i have both preferences turned on |
| 20:03 | jcamins | Odd. |
| 20:05 | Works fine for me. | |
| 20:06 | nengard | hmm |
| 20:06 | in master? | |
| 20:06 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 20:07 | And for records that don't have one yet, there's a direct link to the uploader. | |
| 20:07 | nengard | what?? |
| 20:07 | you mean on the detail page in the staff client there is a link to upload images | |
| 20:08 | i'm not seeing that either | |
| 20:08 | jcamins | Right. |
| 20:08 | nengard | oh wait |
| 20:08 | found that | |
| 20:08 | jcamins | Are you viewing the images tab? |
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| 20:08 | nengard | images tab? |
| 20:08 | I found it under 'edit' | |
| 20:08 | but i don't see an images tab - but the image is showing in the opac | |
| 20:08 | so i know it uploaded | |
| 20:08 | let me try a diff record | |
| 20:09 | jcamins | You don't have it enabled in the intranet. |
| 20:09 | Just the OPAC. | |
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| 20:13 | nengard | jcamins, but I do - i saved the preference - so maybe the default isn't right - let me set it a couple more times |
| 20:13 | jcamins | nengard: worth a try. |
| 20:13 | nengard: I can't troubleshoot, but I can confirm that it works just fine on my system. | |
| 20:14 | nengard | k - i have it set to 'display' and it is not showing me what you see |
| 20:14 | was gonna update the manual but it will have to wait til i can figure this out | |
| 20:16 | jcamins | Odd. |
| 20:19 | nengard | found the images tab! |
| 20:19 | you didn't mean on the left | |
| 20:19 | jcamins | Right. |
| 20:19 | nengard | it's on the bottom |
| 20:19 | jcamins | Of course. |
| 20:19 | nengard | k - the image is there |
| 20:20 | but is that the only place it shows in the staff client? | |
| 20:20 | does it not show next to the title like the other images? | |
| 20:20 | or on the search results? | |
| 20:20 | jcamins | That's correct. |
| 20:20 | nengard | OKAY |
| 20:20 | then it works | |
| 20:20 | just not how i expected it to | |
| 20:20 | jcamins | That's mentioned in one of the commit messages. |
| 20:20 | nengard | there were a lot of them i was still at the beginning of reading |
| 20:23 | trea | has anyone observed similar problems with 7208 in marc21? i think we're experiencing a similar problem. |
| 20:23 | bug 7208 | |
| 20:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7208 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , NORMARCslim2OPACDetail.xsl does not display item type icon |
| 20:27 | * jcamins | disabled the icon line. |
| 20:27 | jcamins | So if it's a new change, I would've have seen it. |
| 20:29 | Works for me. | |
| 20:29 | rangi | morning |
| 20:29 | magnuse | g'night |
| 20:29 | wizzyrea | afternoon :) |
| 20:30 | jcamins | Half-an-hour-before-I-can-call-the-paralegal-again. |
| 20:30 | cait | lol |
| 20:30 | morning rangi | |
| 20:32 | nengard | okay so you can't use local cover images with another cover image service - so you can't use local cover images to supplement the images not found on outside services |
| 20:33 | jcamins | nengard: right. kmkale is supposed to be working on a fallback feature. |
| 20:33 | nengard | k |
| 20:33 | jcamins | I don't know what the status is. |
| 20:35 | nengard | sorry, i am reading, but i learn better by doing :) so I'm doing as i read little bits |
| 20:43 | rangi | one year since the chch earthquake that killed 185 people today |
| 20:43 | http://file.stuff.co.nz/stuff/12-51/ | |
| 20:43 | cait | :( |
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| 21:11 | eythian | slef: I removed it (although maybe commented it out) because of port collisions. I'd like to find a way to do that magically, but haven't had need to yet. |
| 21:15 | maximep | is it normal that suggestion accepted emails are sent every time you edit a purchase suggestion ? |
| 21:15 | once again my bugzilla-fu fails me | |
| 21:16 | cait | hm no |
| 21:16 | i think they should only be sent when you change the status to accepted :( | |
| 21:16 | I might have missed that in testing | |
| 21:16 | the feature was totally broken a while ago | |
| 21:17 | maximep | ok, thanks, will test more and open a bug with a patch |
| 21:17 | cait | maximep: bug 7096 |
| 21:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7096 major, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Receiving suggested items does not trigger notification mail (AVAILABLE) |
| 21:17 | cait | ah |
| 21:17 | no that's another | |
| 21:18 | rangi | you can do bulk edits in marcedit eh? |
| 21:18 | cait | I think so |
| 21:19 | maximep: there are some candidates, try a search on bugzilla for ALL accepted suggestion | |
| 21:19 | ALL will give you closed bugs too | |
| 21:21 | maximep | yeah I know. bz just doesn't like me |
| 21:21 | cait | aw |
| 21:22 | maximep | or maybe more that I still lack the right words because always developping on a french koha |
| 21:22 | jcamins | Okay, walkthrough will be two hours later than previously scheduled, and closing will be the next day. |
| 21:22 | cait | perhaps |
| 21:22 | oh | |
| 21:22 | jcamins | Now we just need people to show up and whatnot. |
| 21:22 | * cait | sends chocolate to jcamins and maximep |
| 21:22 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 21:24 | schuster | rangi yes you can do it often. |
| 21:24 | rangi | cool if you have a little page that explains how that would be awesome |
| 21:25 | schuster | sending what I have via email shortly. |
| 21:25 | rangi | perfect thanks |
| 21:25 | nengard | i'm working on documenting the custom cover images feature and i tried to upload the zip file but it failed - do i need something special set up on my virtual machine to make it able to unzip? |
| 21:26 | jcamins | Yes, unzip. |
| 21:26 | nengard | is that what the module is called? |
| 21:26 | is it listed as a dependency? | |
| 21:26 | jcamins | sudo apt-get install unzip |
| 21:27 | There was a bug to add it to the installation. | |
| 21:27 | (and it was added) | |
| 21:27 | nengard | cool |
| 21:27 | it's not on the about page yet though | |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | people don't have unzip? |
| 21:28 | * wizzyrea | boggles |
| 21:28 | jcamins | nengard: it's not a Perl module. |
| 21:28 | nengard | no? |
| 21:28 | wahanui | no is failing unit tests |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | it's a system tool |
| 21:28 | nengard | I have unzip |
| 21:29 | i don't have it on my vm | |
| 21:29 | jcamins | Nope. It's a program. |
| 21:29 | Shane-S | okay so I am moving along with Koha...I am now to the Marc section. I do IT not books/biblio/MARC, can you all help me if I tackle that tomorrow? |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | does the pope wear a tall hat? |
| 21:29 | (yes :)) | |
| 21:30 | Shane-S | thanks :P, just so I am prepared, what might I need to know about a mark template? |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | you just want to add a book? |
| 21:30 | the first question? | |
| 21:30 | wahanui | the first question is "What are you trying to do?" |
| 21:30 | Shane-S | fyi I have only ever seen our books, and loaded data via disk into Follett |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | oh I see, you are preparing a *migration* |
| 21:30 | Shane-S | Well, for now (testing it) I will want add a book...say Green Eggs and Ham |
| 21:31 | eventually it will be migration | |
| 21:31 | schuster | shane-s - are you connected to the internet? You can use Z39.50 to pull records in directly from other sources. |
| 21:31 | Shane-S | I am just piloting it for now so I can show my Principal and Librarian |
| 21:31 | schuster: yes I am | |
| 21:31 | Can I skip the framework for now then? | |
| 21:32 | schuster | That's easy then. direct cataloging can be done, but such a pain when you can just pull records in from other sources. |
| 21:32 | There are "default" frameworks available and should have been loaded when you installed. | |
| 21:32 | Shane-S | Oh there are I am just following http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ation/newbieguide |
| 21:33 | wizzyrea | yea, don't fret about the frameworks |
| 21:33 | yea, basically | |
| 21:33 | you are done with that guide for now | |
| 21:33 | until you have questions or problems with the rest of that stuff | |
| 21:34 | Shane-S | okay thanks. I will try doing the Z39.50 or 93.50 or 53.90 records tomorrow :P |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | Koha is huuuge - lotta ins, lotta outs |
| 21:34 | focus on the basics: adding patrons and bib records | |
| 21:34 | deal with the rest as you need to :) | |
| 21:34 | (and adding items) | |
| 21:34 | but - yes, we will be around tomorrow to help you through *cataloging* | |
| 21:35 | which I think is your next step - adding a biblio record and an item to it that you can circ. | |
| 21:35 | Shane-S | I tried it with osslabs live CD...but it didn't work...so I made this copy all so I can work beyond snail speed |
| 21:36 | Well thanks for the support thus far, off for the night! | |
| 21:36 | wizzyrea | have a good one :) |
| 21:37 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
| 21:37 | night all | |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | ! gnite cait |
| 21:37 | sleep well | |
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| 21:42 | libsysguy | o/ |
| 21:44 | jcamins | \o |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | sup libsysguy |
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| 21:50 | libsysguy1 | cursed suddenlink |
| 21:52 | nengard | okay 3.8 manual will be up to date tomorrow with the new cover image stuff |
| 21:53 | now it's quitting time | |
| 21:53 | * jcamins | curses vigorously. |
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| 21:53 | jcamins | libsysguy1: now I have. :) |
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| 21:54 | vfernandes | hi guys :) |
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| 21:59 | vfernandes | one little question.... i have a koha installed with 3 libraries, for each library there is one circulation rule where Current Checkouts Allowed for a patron is 3 books. There is a way to limit the maximun books for one patron? In the way that i've configured Koha a patron can have 9 books (3 in each library) but I want to limit to 3 in all libraries |
| 21:59 | it's possible? | |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | make a default rule that says 3 max checkouts? |
| 22:00 | I'd have to investigate that one | |
| 22:01 | jcamins | No, that's not possible. |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | jcamins: are you sure about that? |
| 22:01 | * wizzyrea | is not at all sure |
| 22:01 | jcamins | wizzyrea: not 100% sure, but it certainly wasn't possible a year ago. |
| 22:02 | At least, that's what I was told a year ago. | |
| 22:02 | eythian | There's not a "max total issues by borrower type" thing? |
| 22:02 | Oh, there is for holds I think. Perhaps that's what I'm remembering. | |
| 22:03 | * wizzyrea | is looking |
| 22:03 | vfernandes | there is a max reserves |
| 22:03 | wizzyrea | there is checkout limit by patron category for all libraries |
| 22:03 | so could you set a patron category for each library | |
| 22:03 | with a max of 3 | |
| 22:04 | * jcamins | looks. |
| 22:04 | jcamins | So you could. |
| 22:04 | wizzyrea | ? |
| 22:04 | jcamins | Cool! |
| 22:04 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 22:04 | * wizzyrea | stares at that page a lot. |
| 22:04 | vfernandes | wizzyera where? |
| 22:04 | jcamins | :/ |
| 22:04 | * jcamins | does not. |
| 22:04 | wizzyrea | under more -> administration -> circ and fine rules |
| 22:04 | "checkout limit by patron category for all libraries | |
| 22:04 | " | |
| 22:05 | dunno you'd have to try it out, but I think it would work | |
| 22:05 | vfernandes | on which version of koha? |
| 22:05 | eythian | vfernandes: are you using a recent version? |
| 22:05 | vfernandes | 3.2.6 |
| 22:05 | wizzyrea | this is 3.6 that I'm currently looking at |
| 22:05 | oh when did we get that... | |
| 22:05 | i'm trying to remember. | |
| 22:05 | was that 3.4? | |
| 22:06 | eythian | vfernandes: that's not very recent... |
| 22:06 | jcamins | vfernandes: you should think about updating. |
| 22:06 | * wizzyrea | ponders the truth that Koha isn't like windows - we get updates more than once every 3 years. |
| 22:07 | vfernandes | in this moment i can't think in updates :/ |
| 22:07 | wizzyrea | and we don't often appreciate, amongst ourselves, *just how much we do* |
| 22:07 | and how much better koha gets with every single release. | |
| 22:07 | data_doctor | I am appreciating!!! :^) |
| 22:07 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 22:08 | i'm actually waiting with bated breath for your first patch :D | |
| 22:08 | (no pressure) | |
| 22:08 | data_doctor | I kind of imagine y'all up on Mt. Olympus planning improvements for all the world's libraries... |
| 22:08 | wizzyrea | naw, more like the dark basements. |
| 22:08 | data_doctor | ha ha |
| 22:09 | libsysguy1 | ^^ |
| 22:09 | libsysguy | i really like that nic data_doctor |
| 22:09 | data_doctor | :) |
| 22:10 | rangi | back |
| 22:10 | libsysguy | so when are we moving away from marc and onto that new standard approved by LC |
| 22:10 | * libsysguy | laughs quietly to himself |
| 22:10 | rangi | when they actually approve it? |
| 22:10 | libsysguy | i thought it was already approved |
| 22:11 | data_doctor | approved and accepted are two different things |
| 22:11 | rangi | the Coordinating Committee recommends that RDA should be implemented by LC, NAL, and NLM |
| 22:11 | no sooner than January 2013." This adoption, in the meantime, is contingent upon the | |
| 22:11 | progress made in completing and rectifying nine action items and areas of concern raised | |
| 22:11 | by the Committee. | |
| 22:11 | One recommendation--3.2.5--was notable in that it called for a suspension of work underway on RDA. The Working Group suggested that further development work on Resource Description and Access (RDA) be suspended until a business case had been articulated, benefits demonstrated, and there had been better testing of FRBR (Functional Requirements for Bibliographic Records) as it relates to RDA. | |
| 22:11 | yeah .. naw .. :) | |
| 22:11 | wizzyrea | funny quotes? |
| 22:11 | libsysguy | librarians…. |
| 22:12 | no offense to the librarians in the room... | |
| 22:12 | jcamins | @quote search librarian |
| 22:12 | huginn | jcamins: 3 found: #112: "gmcharlt: only superlibrarians can be trusted...", #121: "mtj> friends don't let librarians spec bib formats", and #4: "< kf> I often get asked: You have to study to..." |
| 22:12 | jcamins | @quote get 121 |
| 22:12 | huginn | jcamins: Quote #121: "mtj> friends don't let librarians spec bib formats" (added by chris at 08:18 PM, March 24, 2011) |
| 22:13 | data_doctor | I recently heard the stacks described as a forest, because of all the trees that went into the pages. |
| 22:14 | Gives the library a more organic feel. | |
| 22:14 | rangi | schuster: thanks for that email, i have forwarded it to Space_Librarian |
| 22:14 | data_doctor | love the one about superlibrarians... |
| 22:14 | of course they are all Super! | |
| 22:15 | but can they all be trusted? he he | |
| 22:18 | jcamins | That was a short visit. |
| 22:19 | wizzyrea | @quote get 112 |
| 22:19 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #112: "gmcharlt: only superlibrarians can be trusted with capes" (added by wizzyrea at 09:17 PM, December 15, 2010) |
| 22:19 | wizzyrea | kekek |
| 22:20 | rangi | this is interesting and potentially quite useful |
| 22:20 | http://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/2[…]d-php-memory.html | |
| 22:21 | schuster | rangi any time there are also several tutorials on the marcedit website. |
| 22:21 | rangi | cool |
| 22:22 | schuster | the other nice thing is if you screw up there is "special undo" to Undo one step only. |
| 22:22 | vfernandes | guys i'm checking the Koha 3.6 manual and i don't found any info about my question |
| 22:24 | * jcamins | heads to the Grolier. |
| 22:25 | schuster | vfernandes - what was your question? |
| 22:25 | vfernandes | one little question.... i have a koha installed with 3 libraries, for each library there is one circulation rule where Current Checkouts Allowed for a patron is 3 books. There is a way to limit the maximun books for one patron? In the way that i've configured Koha a patron can have 9 books (3 in each library) but I want to limit to 3 in all libraries |
| 22:29 | schuster | hmm... nope don't think you can do that. |
| 22:29 | ok night all. | |
| 22:30 | wizzyrea | schuster: I think we can, actually |
| 22:30 | but not, probably, in 3.2 | |
| 22:31 | vfernandes | wizzyrea but there is nothing in the manual |
| 22:32 | wizzyrea | did you look at the circ and fine rules page in Koha? |
| 22:32 | vfernandes | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]/en/patscirc.html |
| 22:32 | wizzyrea | that's patron categories |
| 22:33 | vfernandes | in the end... |
| 22:33 | wizzyrea | 3.5.3 |
| 22:33 | is the section you are looking fo | |
| 22:33 | for | |
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| 22:33 | vfernandes | "For this library, you can specify the maximum number...." |
| 22:34 | only for one library | |
| 22:34 | wizzyrea | no, you would create a patron category for each library |
| 22:34 | Space_Librarian | schuster - thanks so much, I'm printing off those instructions now. :) |
| 22:34 | wizzyrea | assign the patrons to that category |
| 22:34 | then limit the categories | |
| 22:35 | (or several patron categories) | |
| 22:35 | does that make sense? | |
| 22:35 | vfernandes | for me no... all libraries have the same patron categories |
| 22:36 | wizzyrea | unfortunately I think at the moment the only way to do what you want to do is to give each library their own categories |
| 22:36 | for example | |
| 22:36 | we have 40 libraries | |
| 22:36 | each one has their own patron categories | |
| 22:36 | libA-Adult | |
| 22:36 | libA-Child | |
| 22:36 | libB-Adult | |
| 22:36 | libB-Child | |
| 22:36 | etc | |
| 22:37 | vfernandes | tomorrow i'll talk to my client if there is anyway to limit the categories by library |
| 22:37 | wizzyrea | functionally I don't think it really changes anything |
| 22:37 | if you get your rules right | |
| 22:38 | more of a semantic change, and the circ staff need to be a little more aware when they are creating patrons that they get their new patrons in the right category | |
| 22:39 | vfernandes | ok i'll talk with them tomorrow |
| 22:39 | alaquerre | Hi All, Our user are telling us that some document are not return properly by we dont know why. So I dig a bit in the data and find out that some of the values in action_logs are empty ? The column "Object" is sometimes, let's say 3-5% of the time empty when we do return. When this occur, look like the column info contain the wrong biblionumber or something |
| 22:39 | like that. | |
| 22:39 | vfernandes | thanks for the help wizzyrea |
| 22:39 | alaquerre | Does that ring a bell ? |
| 22:39 | wizzyrea | anytime :) |
| 22:40 | vfernandes: like this: http://screencast.com/t/gsHWHQGqE | |
| 22:41 | imagine that x40 | |
| 22:41 | ;) | |
| 22:43 | alaquerre: that doesn't ring any bells for me - what version? | |
| 22:44 | alaquerre | 3.6.0 |
| 22:44 | wizzyrea | hm |
| 22:44 | wonder if they are going too fast? | |
| 22:46 | alaquerre | yeah, I also think about it, but at the same time, we do have a row in the action_logs table. |
| 22:46 | wizzyrea | but it's partial so... |
| 22:47 | alaquerre | That would mean we send the web request out and the server would not have been able to digest it.. |
| 22:47 | strande | |
| 22:47 | strange | |
| 22:48 | Ok, I'll keep searching. But bottom line : action_logs should be always full ? | |
| 22:49 | wizzyrea | well, I admit to not investigating that |
| 22:49 | alaquerre | I'll let you know if we found something. |
| 22:49 | Thanks! | |
| 22:50 | wizzyrea | good luck, that's a pretty weird problem. |
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| 23:05 | Space_Librarian | rangi++ for just being a legend :) |
| 23:05 | rangi | http://library.redwoods.edu/cg[…]iblionumber=79986 for being a fun catalogue record |
| 23:06 | Space_Librarian | that is a fantastic catalogue |
| 23:07 | wizzyrea | with the giant GO button |
| 23:07 | ok hometime | |
| 23:07 | Space_Librarian | bye wizzyrea! :) |
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